Pardon My Take - Thanksgiving Special With Northwestern Coach Pat Fitzgerald And Mark Titus

Episode Date: November 25, 2020

Its Thanksgiving week and we start with a recap of MNF and preview of Thanksgiving Day games (2:24 - 21:43). Hot Seat/Cool Throne and a defense of cranberry sauce (21:43 - 39:54). Northwestern coach Pat Fitzgerald joins the show to talk about the win against Wisconsin, coaching during a pandemic, and how people should respect Coach Fitz more (39:54 - 54:22). Mark Titus joins the show to catch up on life, talk college hoops, and what this season is going to look like (54:22 - 120:21). Preview of the Sunday slate and guys on chicks.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, an extra long Thanksgiving Day special. If you have to work on Friday, we don't have a show coming on Friday. We have Pat Fitzgerald, coach of the Northwestern Wildcats. We have our good, good friend, Mark Titus. We talk college basketball, shoot the shit.

Always great to have him on the show. One of our favorite guests. Patient zero for coronavirus in the United States though. Patient zero. We address that. He apologizes. Yeah, he did everything. So it was great to catch up with him about everything.

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We made it. We made it. It's 2020. It's almost over. It's holiday season. You can just forget about anything that you planned on doing in 2019. That's the greatest part about an office job is the weeks in between Thanksgiving and New Year's because you can just say, you know, it's that time of year.

No one's in the office. It's put on a sweater, eat a little too much, put on 10 pounds, get a little drunk all the time, watch college basketball all the time, bowl games. I don't even know if there is a bowl season. It's the best. This month, you can be socially a little buzzed pretty much at all times. Like maybe there's an hour on Monday where you should probably try to sober up. Yeah, just so you get the holiday spirit.

Just full. I'm just full. This week, from this week until January 1st, and really when I say January 1st, whenever the first Monday is, so like January 7th this year, I just stay full the whole time. Oh, it's eggnog season too. Just full. It's full. You know where it is?

It's eggnog and seasonal food debate season. All right. So we got a big, big show for you. If you are listening and you have to work on Friday, we will tell you exactly when you can stop and have a little save, a little something for yourself Friday. But we have Pat Fitzgerald from Northwestern. We have our good, good friend, Mark Titus, awesome interview with him talking about college basketball.

Before we do that though, Monday Night Football, Tom Brady, now we do this a lot with this show where we throw out half-baked ideas, half-baked theories, and we don't really believe them, but whatever. We just say them. I'm starting to believe the theory that Tom Brady cannot play after 8 PM at night. I really do think this is true. And as the game goes on, he gets worse. That interception that you threw in the third quarter, was that the first one down the middle

of the field? The one in the first half, I think. That's the one where Brian Grease, he was like, and yeah, the issue on that was it looks like there was somebody that was standing by him, so his lot of sight wasn't clean on it. But they were the exact same interception, twice in the same game. And they looked like James Winston interceptions. This is also why, like Tom Brady, he obviously is obsessed with football, maniacally so.

But man, and the Bucks are still good, they're going to go to the playoffs, they're going to be fine-ish, I don't know if they'll get to the Super Bowl. It feels like they have a team full of names and not like a football team. You know what I mean? They have some great players, but as a cohesive football team, it just sometimes it's looked bad against really good opponents. But they've got the Corvettes on the outside, that's another thing that they kept saying was like they've got the athletes, I mean, there's no better trio of wide receivers

in the NFL than Godwin, Mike Evans and Antonio Brown. It just doesn't exist. Right. That's like a really good trio of guys. But there is a problem with Tom Brady and you don't have to look very far, like Coach Arians was kind of treating him with kid gloves after the game, he was saying like he was taking responsibility and saying that those picks weren't Tom Brady's fault and it's like you want Bruce Arians to yell at you and call you a shithead.

When he stops calling you a shithead, that's when it becomes an issue. I don't understand though why they're like Bruce Arians is a good coach. I was I'm not going to say great. He's a good coach. I think the QB whisper thing is a little overrated. I think we I think we've talked about it, but like it's a little bit easier to be a QB whisper when you have Peyton Manning, Ben Rothesberger, Carson Palmer, like you go down the list.

It's like James Winston, like Andrew Luck, high draft picks. When you get the number one guy, Kelly Holcomb being like, oh, QB whisper. Yeah. Yeah. Peyton Manning was great. He's had some stinkers like in his time in Cleveland. He's had some bad guys. But yeah, he's had some very, very good quarterback.

So my point though is like why I don't understand why Tampa Bay isn't playing more to Tom Brady strengths. And when you say Tom Brady strengths, he's the greatest of all time at being precise at like, oh, you want to you want to make us go 11 plays down the field. OK, we will fucking kill you by Tom Brady never missing a guy always making the right throw, always making the right read instead of, hey, it's Tom Brady. He's got, you know, Mike Evans and Antonio Brown. Let's throw a deep.

Yeah. What? Like that's never been his game. So why are they doing that? Because that's what Bruce does. I don't think that's weird. I don't think that's weird. Even when they were in Arizona, you remember the years when Carson Palmer would get hurt

and they'd have to dip into like their third and fourth string quarterbacks and just like roll whoever out there. I think it was like, was it Drew Henson out there and started a couple of games for him? It was the Virginia Tech guy. Shit. Oh, the tight end. Shit. Logan Thomas.

There it is. Yeah. So I mean, that's what Bruce Arians does. He doesn't really mold his playbook around whoever he's just like, this is a perfect playbook. And if you can't complete these passes and fuck you. So I, yes, I agree with you. I think that they probably should alter their playbook a little bit, but also I want to give

credit to the Rams. I want to give credit to Jerry Goff. Oh, yeah. They basically said, they basically said, like, we're going to take away or it's a good matchup for the Tampa Bay defense going up against the Rams offense because the Rams can run the ball. The Bucks can stop the run. I think they're like top five in league.

And then Jerry Goff goes out there and just throws like what 52 passes. It was awesome. He's lit them up. He's the Rams had a great game plan. And yeah, there that was a great game game plan by the Rams. Great game plan by Shaw McVay. Go ahead, Hank. Drew Stanton.

Drew Stanton. Yeah. Remember, he played against us in the kickball. Yes, never forgot. Took it way too seriously. Get a cannon. You took that game. Not surprisingly.

Way too serious. How do you stand on the Rams uniforms from last night, the off, off white, the parking lot snow colored uniforms? Meh. Yeah. Not a fan. No, the Rams are a really good football team. I think I've been talking about the Rams, you know, being a team that I put a future

on them to win the Super Bowl like three weeks ago. I think they are a matchup problem for a lot of teams. I am just like, do you think, Hank, do you think Tom Brady at some point because he's getting graded on the Tom Brady grade, grade, you know, like people are saying, well, he's washed. Well, he's still a really good quarterback, but you expect him to be the greatest of all time. He's not that anymore.

Do you think they'll ever be a moment in the next year or two where he's like, maybe I should have just walked off after the Rams Super Bowl because he would have, like, walking off of on a Super Bowl is an all time move and with six. Yeah. There's something that's in his DNA. Yeah. Probably not. You know, you don't get to where you are if you're Tom Brady, if you have that attitude.

But they're like, the box also you can point at Peyton Manning be like Peyton Manning walked off with a Super Bowl. I'm not Peyton Manning. I kept going back. I kept trying. I kept going back. Yeah. What about, I actually think the play of the game was the field goal at the very end of

the first half when they get that long downfield completion. I tweeted about this, but it's amazing because I hadn't really considered it that much earlier. But it's so impressive that they're able to get their entire offensive line to sprint like 35 yards down the field, get to the line of scrimmage and then stand totally still. But that were me. If I just like run a 40 yard dash in football pads, my body's like shaking. There's no way that I can, just the force of my breath is making me bob up and down. And they get to the line.

They hold in their puke for about three seconds and get set. They're able to snap the ball and spike it and then get a field goal. That's like, to me, it's way more impressive the act of being able to get those big dudes to be able to do that than it is the actual completion downfield. I agree. I agree. So I, the only other take I had coming from this game is, and I think this is, I'm just saying this is going to be talked about in the media.

If the box struggle, they're going to start saying that, uh, Antonio Brown, what you get on the field isn't worth what you, what you lose in the locker room because I know I don't fully believe that, but I do think there's a point where you might have too many weapons. I think you brought Antonio Brown in too early. I think like you can't give him that much time. If you're going to bring a time bomb into your locker room, you bring it in as late as possible so it doesn't detonate in the middle of the season. It, yeah.

But yeah, you're right. Like they do have to spread the ball around a lot because they have so many weapons. But I don't know. I feel like if you have Tom Brady, the whole aspect of why am I not getting as many catches gets a little bit diminished because you kind of have to trust the guy that's won so much. But yeah, they're definitely, if you don't feed Antonio Brown enough, now he will be a problem. But I feel like Godwin and Evans and Gronk, those guys can manage if maybe their targets

go down by like 10% or 20%. I just want Scotty Miller to get back out there. Yeah, Scotty doesn't know. Scotty doesn't know. But what about JPP making plays and shout out to Steve Levy for not talking about JPP's disintegrated hand every time that he makes an interception. You know he wants to very badly and he's made a lot of them in like the last three weeks. When he tips a ball and he reaches up and you can see it's with the bad hand and he

gets one of the good fingers on it. Like if that were me. If that were me, I would probably be fired. One of them good fingers. You have to talk about the explosion at some point, right? Yes, you do. The fireworks action. Yes, you do.

That was a big miss. How does he signal the start of the fourth quarter? I think the other hand or just the fist. Yeah. All right. So that was Monday Night Football. I don't really know. Yeah, I feel like the Bucks are a good team, but they are, I mean you lost twice to the

Saints. The Rams are the other team that you thought could match up well against them. You lost to them at home. This will be a very interesting game on, on, we will get to the Sunday slate after Titus and Fitzgerald, but against the Chiefs because like the Bucks are now in a spot where they can, they can erase all the doubt by beating the Chiefs or the doubt can really pile on by losing the Chiefs and going into the bi-week and being like, what are they? And it's in the afternoon.

It's when, when Tom Brady is still looser, that's 425. Still, still okay as long as it doesn't go to overtime. All right. Thanksgiving Day Football. I would like to propose that I think, I don't think they're allowing fans in Detroit, but I would love it if they would just put a couple fat guys dressed in pilgrim outfits to fall asleep in the third quarter just to make us feel like there's some normals. Yeah, I agree with that.

We need, we need a little bit of ambiance in this answer. Just a couple fat guys just dressed ridiculously kind of, you know, too many, too many Bud Lights and they're just half dozen off as the Lions. I can't, I feel like the Lions, I don't know, I can't even get a read on them anymore. Like if Kenny Gallaudet is playing, I think maybe they'll win and if he's not, they'll lose. I don't know. I feel like this team's falling apart.

I think they're going to lose no matter what. What's up, Billy? You haven't won on Thanksgiving the past three years in a row. Okay. They haven't won on Thanksgiving the past three years in a row. There is something nice though that's going to be, you know, you're going to be sitting in the kitchen probably helping make some of the appetizers put together a cheese plate, pouring yourself a glass of white wine at 1030, 1130 in the morning.

And then you watch, you turn on the TV and the Lions are losing by 17 points before you have even sat down to eat. I like how that feels, but it would be better if you had at least a couple of those fans in the stands. I actually have a proposal for like Bill's Nation and a lot of the teams that are looking like they might make the playoffs that haven't made the playoffs a while, maybe even in danger of getting a home playoff game like in Buffalo. Bill's Mafia, we've talked about how they should let Bill's Mafia in.

Why don't they just, they should turn, it's no longer New Era stadium. Is it just Buffalo Bill's stadium? They should just turn that field into a bubble right now and be like, we will admit 50,000 Bill's fans into the stands as long as you promise not to leave between now and the first week of January. And just coexist here. We'll have like a hospital set up in one of the end zones where we can treat you if you do get coronavirus.

But at the end of that, you know, month and a half long exposure, we know that everybody will be safe for the playoff game. I think you get 50,000 people right now to do that. You had this idea a while ago. I thought it was just for the parking lot, just for those Mafia getting thrown through tables. I thought you had the idea for like SEC. You just have the diehard fans all get together in bubble before the season starts.

Yeah, you could have like bubbles in different city. I actually think it could work in Buffalo inside the physical stadium. Absolutely. Absolutely. Make it happen, Buffalo. It would be great. I'll do it with Bill's Mafia. I'll do it.

I'll go up there and I'll live inside the stadium if you make that happen. Yes, it has to happen. What Billy? Or incentivize first wheel, take the vaccine, you get to go to the Bill's game as a test. Oh, what about the Russian vaccine? They're making a cheaper. Yeah, they're making a cheaper vaccine. Billy, you have to take that one.

The only other thing I had with the Lions game is road favorites are 12 and three on Thanksgiving playing the Lions or Cowboys and Texans are the favorite. So but I don't know, the NFL just feels like that league where Texans won last week to beat the Patriots. Everyone's like, ooh, don't forget about the Sean Watson. And then you remember they kind of suck. Also JJ Watt, hopefully he gets like player of the game so we can get some awesome quotes from him.

Yeah. And also so he can be eating the turkey on the sidelines. Yes. You know, he really wants to do that. Bring back John Madden for this game. Yeah. Can we please get John Madden to roll his turd out there? Sam, call in.

All right. How are you feeling about Washington football? Why is John Madden like hidden from the world? Because he's like a hundred years old. He's so old and he doesn't fly. And he hasn't made any public appearance since the show has existed. I bet you John Madden doesn't have the internet. How old?

84. He's actually on, I'm pretty sure he's on like an NFL like rules committee where they just call him up every now and then they're like, does this feel like football? He's like, no. And they're like, okay, I swear, I swear, I'm pretty sure. Find a Jake. I'm pretty sure he is. He is.

Yeah. When they were like trying to redo pass interference. Yeah. He's like, no, that doesn't make sense. Yeah. I think he should be the commissioner. He should be the shadow commissioner right now. Football philosopher.

Yeah. He is. But for the Washington football team on Thanksgiving, I have something good for you. Okay. I have visualized this game. I have visualized all of America making fun of Andy Dalton in the fourth quarter on Twitter. Okay. All right.

That's good enough for me. Doesn't it feel like that? Doesn't it feel like that? Doesn't it feel like that? I just, I keep going back to the RG three game in Dallas back in 2012 where he threw for like 350 yards and four touchdowns, just embarrass the Cowboys, pulled their pants down national television. I am a little bit concerned about Mike McCarthy, who seems to have figured out the secret to

coaching football in the NFL, which is to smash the shit out of watermelons with a sledgehammer. I don't know how it took him this long to just wake up one day and be like, oh, I've got it. I haven't brought the watermelons out yet. That to me, it should be illegal that I lost my survivor league on the Vikings. That's knowledge that I should have had beforehand because you can't smash. He knew that he had one watermelon to smash, to get the most out of his team. And he was like, all right, let's go.

It's such a bizarre time to pick this. Like why, why are you doing that for the Vikings game? You should have done that four weeks ago. That should have been the Ben D'Nucci challenge. I bet you they still made like Stephen Jones clean it up. Oh yeah. He just had his handkerchief like it was, as of 2018, John Madden announced that he is doing what every retiree dreams of removing every last obligation from his schedule.

God, that's so awesome. But he had a great cameo on Little Giants. That's true. That was like 40 years ago. Emmett Smith. Yeah, he was also, yeah, also made a video game. Well, he's actually the most successful video game programmer in world history. Yeah, it's true.

Him and Mr. Nintendo. But I, he coded that himself, the first one. I keep going back and forth because every time I get a little bit of confidence in my Washington football team, that's when they break my heart. I'm starting to get optimism and they're gonna, I don't want to say it, but it feels like my heart's about to get broken again. But Andy Dalton getting made fun of Washington by seven. Yeah.

Andy Dalton getting made fun of. All right. And then last three that would be Alex Smith, winning a game on Thanksgiving in front of the world. Andy Dalton is going to get made fun of on Thanksgiving Day. I predict the winner of this game wins the NFC beast. Oh, you still got the Giants, the Goodish Giants. They're going to beat the Bengals this week.

So now they're going to be right there. Not so sure. Ryan Finley. Not so fast, my friend. Come on. Ryan Finley. Ryan Finley. Ryan Finley.

Nice guy. Really nice guy. No. Ravens. Steelers. The Ravens got the cocoa. The Steelers don't. The Steelers are going to kill him.

Yeah. We thought the Ravens had a chance, but now it's no. On Monday, this was a back against the wall game. Just don't, just please don't cancel this game. Stand up against the wall so we can shoot you. Please don't play cancel this game. It, I think it's going to be played because it's on, so none of these games are on the same network.

There's CBS Fox and NBC. So one of these networks is going to bitch and moan if a game gets canceled and moved around. And that's really ultimately what Roger Goodell cares about is making sure that the networks are happy and all that stuff. All their partners are happy. So I think they're going to end up playing the game. I don't know who the Ravens are going to have playing running back besides Gus.

Gus Bus. Maybe RG3. Maybe, maybe run like a dual wildcat type situation at some point during this game. But with all the, all the cocoa drama, I don't know. Justice Hill. There we go. Justice Hill. That's right.

Mount Sinai. Justice Hill is kind of a name that you could do something just based on a name. That feels like a name. He was a little Justice Hill. Yeah, he was a fourth round pick. He was a really good college running back. Yeah. Justice Hill, baby.

Justice Hill. You were talking about the Steelers. I know we'll get into scenarios and tiebreakers a little later, but they can clinch playoff spot today. The Steelers win Vegas and Miami loss. Let's go. Okay. I got the Steelers 55 to one to win the Super Bowl.

There you go. Need it. Yeah. Bonus news back of the week. I forgot to mention this on Monday. The ESPN playoff machine is back. So I've spent a conservatively 15 hours messing around with different playoff scenarios. Let me tell you, it's ready to go.

The football team is making the playoffs 15% of the time. All right. Let's do Hot Sea Cool Throne. Then we're going to get Pat Fitzgerald, Mark Titus. Then we'll do the rest of the Sunday slate on the other side of that for people who have to work on Friday. Hot Sea Cool Throne is brought to you by Bud Light Seltzer on the Cool Throne. Our ugly sweaters, specifically the sweaters we collabed with Bud Light Seltzer on available

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So tune into that as always get your Bud Light and Bud Light Seltzer delivered at budlight.com slash delivery. Hot Seat Cool Throne brought to you by Bud Light Seltzer. Thank you, Bud Light Seltzer. Hank. My hot seat is the boys in the green couch to my right. That would be Billy and Jake Marsh. Billy, a listener, send us a video of Billy.

You're fake news. Using the same fact twice. So he used the emu fact in the end of September 18th and then he used the same fact at the end of the show the other day. That's almost on us because that was only two months ago and we don't remember it. I don't think it happened. That's, I mean Billy, Billy is, Billy plagiarizing his own facts is just, I should have seen it coming.

He's probably been doing it. He is Rick Riley. Yeah. You're 21-year-old. You've lived his entire career in the span of two years. Who's Rick Riley? I have no idea. Jesus Christ.

Also, Billy, somebody told me. It's been on the show a few times, fellow big J. Yeah. Only once. Someone was suggesting that you get an entire coordination going on with your spreadsheet. Yeah. Yeah. I think it would help.

With the cells and the spreadsheet, I have a better idea for the spreadsheet. You should throw it out. First of all, you should, you know what, I heard so much about this goddamn spreadsheet. You should print it out. Wait. Whoa. You've heard. Accounting Twitter all Sunday, ruined my NFL Sunday.

No. I was fighting and counting Twitter. It's like coming up with a system that makes football not fun to watch. You literally sat down and you said to, you're like, like, all right, who do you got in this game? You're like, well, I have the Patriots. And then the Texans took a lead and you're like, well, now I need the Texans. Like, it's not fun.

There's malt. It's like a choose your own adventure. No. But your adventure changes every two seconds. Exactly. No, it's not. It's not fun. You had a miserable time watching it.

No, I had a miserable time because all these counting Twitter. Can't run for the boy without an attention span. All I'm saying is if you want to make people take your spreadsheet seriously, print it out. It's red zone for bets. Hand it to us. It just changes all the time. Hand it to us in a hard format and then put those plastic sheets with a plastic spine on it.

You remember those that like make your paper look 10 times better in college? It's such an easy. You should do that with these sheets too. I'll laminate them. Yeah, with these sheets, just put the plastic sheets on either side with a plastic spine on the back and then it feels like an official document. Then we'll take it seriously. And then Jake, so we have limited edition.

These are collector items, cereal boxes. Hell yeah. Hard in my flakes. They're going to be on sale Black Friday. Yeah. Breakfast too. If you're watching right now, you can see them, but it's like they're, you know, they're custom PFT, Big Cat, myself are on the front and on the back, there's a crossword puzzle.

Oh. Word search. Word search. Sorry, not crossword puzzle. There's a word search with a bunch of names that are related to the show. Bubba's on there. Billy football is on there. Rit, AWL, Coach O. Just no mention of Jake.

Jake got frozen out. You guys didn't make these words. We did not make those words. We actually cleared them all. We were like, make sure Jake's not on there. I thought I was part of the family. I'm sorry, Jake. Flakes for graduate.

I'm sorry. You know what though? There is a secret cake in that word search. Not really. You can, yeah. No, cake is in the word search. If you find the bonus cake, then that means you won. I'm okay right now.

It's disappointing. I got a really good idea. That is fucked up, Jake. I'll have it fixed. There's a jazz backwards. I got an idea. Let's take three boxes and then cross out the FL on Flakes and just put a J. Billy's just trying to get free cereal.

They'll be limited edition and then whichever, whoever gets it. Yeah. There's a cake on there. That's what I'll say, but sure. But why is the word clutch? Why did that make the cut over me? That was someone who doesn't listen to podcasts like clutch. That is just not a segment at all.

Larry Six is on there. Clutch. Larry Six is on there. He's got sports. Clutch. Hot me. By the way, Larry Six, people have asked how he's doing. He's the biggest fucking goldfish that I've ever seen in my life.

He's so chonk. He looks like he ate every other layer. Maybe we'll have him pick some. He got too big. Yeah, people are like, why is he doing picks? He's bigger than the net. It's not like a little goldfish where it's like, oh, whatever. It's like borderline feels like animal abuse when you like trap him in the net.

Some things are bigger than sports. One of those things is Larry. Maybe we'll have Larry do playoffs. Yeah. So we need an updated version of that box. All right. What? Definitely not happening.

You're on here in my heart. Thank you. That's what means the most. Hank, you're, oh wait, no, that was both of them. Cool throws. That was. PFT. Thanks.

My hot seat is Ryan Rosillo, recurring guest to the show. I was alerted to Ryan Rosillo's podcast by a couple of people. I guess he does a show when he's not doing part of my take sometimes. Haven't had the opportunity to check it out. But someone sent me the relevant clip from the show and he was saying things like there are some people out there in the media that don't actually know anything about football that keeps saying that the Washington football team's past defense is number one in the NFL and using that as an example as to why they're good.

And they're not going to yell. He was, he raised his voice at me and others in the media saying that we don't watch the games because it's teams that play us that are beating us that stop throwing the ball in the second half. Fair point. The football team fair point is number one in yards per game and passing. Well, Ryan, you don't watch the game film, Ryan, because we're also number five in yards per attempt.

How's that for you? Well, that's not number one anymore. Number five. But also, but what's number five yards per term? Yeah. Meaning we're pretty good. Second of all, if you watch the games, you would know that we played a lot of teams that are in the game with us till the fourth quarter into the fourth quarter.

So they do still run the ball in the second half, Ryan. We're beating the Cleveland Browns in the second half. We were close to winning against the Arizona football Cardinals in the second half, Ryan. We played the Giants who just stink at passing the ball, so that's not really any indication of whether or not we were falling behind to them. All I'm saying is we're number five. I think he got you, bro. In yards per attempt.

I think he got you. Not at all. Not at all. Look at the stats, Ryan. I think he got you. You're taking Ryan's side in this? Well, the going from one to five when you say we're number one hurts. Out of 32.

Yeah, I know, but that's not number one. Still pretty good. It is good. But it's not number one. It's not number one. And then my other hot seat is everybody who's falling asleep at night because the office is getting taken off Netflix. No.

But this is like the tenth time that Netflix has just leaked a report saying that they're threatening to take the office off. Damn. They basically hold America hostage. Hold this. They're on the cock. They are on the cock now. They're going to the cock.

They pretty much... But this happens all the time. They're like, if we don't get 50,000 new subscribers by the end of the week, we're taking the office off. This is the Baby Braun of the Week alert. Netflix, so Dave Chappelle, I guess doesn't get royalties from Chappelle's show. Netflix put Chappelle's show on Netflix and Dave Chappelle complained it was like, this is kind of bullshit.

So Netflix just helped them out and was like, all right, we'll take it down because we have a good relationship with you. And so Dave Chappelle thanked them. Well, Braun James, Baby Braun of the Week is Netflix. He tweeted, major shout out and salute to Netflix for looking out and being loyal to my dear friend Dave Chappelle. It means a lot. Wow.

Baby Braun. Netflix is the Baby Braun of the Week. My cool throne is, cornucopia is on scorebugs. I love this week. You get the leaves falling. You get the cornucopia, a couple squashes, maybe one turkey on one of the sides. This is the start of festive scorebug weather while you're watching football. I liked one of the Fox and the Christmas lights for the timeouts.

Yeah, that was really nice too. I embraced debate. What's your favorite updated scorebug? Is it the Halloween one that has a pumpkin? The turkey cornucopia one? The Christmas lights or the one that's just plain snow for New Year's? I like the Christmas lights. Tell them about them.

Christmas lights. Yeah, I do like the cornucopia though. I love those. I love that as well. And the leaves. I think Fox does the falling leaves. Yeah, they do falling leaves. I like that.

That's my favorite. That's my favorite. All right. My hot seat is, is this guy, who's Steve O'Rourke? Do you know who that is? Shut up Steve. He was a guy from Jackass. No.

No. I don't know if he's real or not, but... He's the manager of Pink Floyd. What? Oh, no. That's a different Steve O'Rourke. Yeah. No, he...

Oh, he's a doctor, smart guy. He has a... Hall of Fame journalist. Peyton Manning's on the hot seat for Steve O'Rourke because he just had an all-time take break this afternoon. Peyton Manning will get into the Hall of Fame, but he's not a Hall of Fame quarterback. By my reckoning, you have to be indisputably the best player at your position for an extended period of time, and there was almost always someone better his entire career.

Speaker of truth. What? Is that? I'm trying to find... Spot to lie. Where do you find this guy? I don't know. I got retweeted in my time.

Shut up. Steve is his name, so... And then my cool-throne is Dan Herron because Bill James online, who's got a very strange follow, does random Hall of Fame polls, and he put out Roger Cummins versus Dan Herron and Dan Herron won the poll. I might have retweeted it, but we do need Billy. We need the PowerPoint for Dan Herron's Hall of Fame because he's actually up for the Hall of Fame this year.

So present to them? Yeah. So throw out your stupid fucking betting spreadsheets that make no sense and make us spreadsheets for Dan Herron. Dan Herron is a Hall of Fame pitcher. Prove me wrong. Okay. Verbal meme.

Billy football. I'll ask Mike the bike. What? Mike the bikes. I'm not even going to unload this on someone else. No, I'm not. Billy, do you have numbers, guys, here now? You have the ability.

Like, I actually want a compelling argument. Okay. Right. Done. Look at me. I bet you he's got more National League wins than Roger Clemens does. He's got the lowest ERA in the world series of all time. There you go.

Boom. That's one of them. Also, never use steroids. Boom. Probably. If he did, they were really bad steroids because he threw, like, 89 miles per hour. Terrible. All right.

Billy, you have a hot seat? My hot seat? Yeah. He's got a new normal. Oh. With a notable. Bigger cock? Yeah.

So Greg Norman's innocent dog photo has an X-rated twist. What? Has a Norman. Yeah. Is this one of those? Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. He's, I wasn't sure who Greg Norman was. Turns out he's an old golfer now. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. Yeah. So. A great white cock.

Yeah. He's got a hammer. Normie's just canceled. Where's his hammer? I don't see it. What? It's in his pants. The outline in his pants.

Oh, I was looking for a dog cock. Yeah. I was looking for a dog cock. Anyway. Got it. Dude, he's ripped. Normie's canceled. Damn.

I feel like everybody in Australia over the age of 60 still has abs. Tony Meatballs among 15 monsters busted in Philadelphia. I mean, that's, if your name's Tony Meatballs, like. Go to jail. Who cares? You already won life. That, that press release was pretty funny. It was like among others, Tony Meatballs and Joey Electric are going to prison.

Tony Meatballs. I mean, that's, I mean, you're king of the, you're king of the black. I mean, it's incredible. They're cosplayers at this point. Yes. Tony Meatballs. All right. I asked Jeff to do that on his periscope.

I was like, do you hear the news about Tony Meatballs? And then I asked Jeff to do that on his periscope. I was like, do you hear the news about Tony Meatballs? And he goes, we don't talk about that, but it's a tough morning. Yeah. It's a tough morning. He's a fan of the mafia. Bleep out his name, Hank.

My. The Duke to do. Cool throne is mashed potato gravy volcanoes. Huh? What? Mashed potato gravy volcanoes. You're going to do that? Yeah.

I love doing that. Oh. Highlighting my Thanksgiving. I knew my other cool throne. I don't, I feel like the one food that always gets bashed on the Thanksgiving table is cranberry sauce. Yeah. I'm not a fan.

I like it. Yeah. I'm going to say that it's fucking, it's, I eat it once a year. It's a nice little like, you know what it's, it's, it's a lubricant for all the food. It also destroys urinary tract infections, which is nice. Right. But I'd rather have a dirty dick than eat that shit. So you're going to do a mashed potato volcano?

Yeah. It's the best way to have the gravy in one place and you dip your turkey into it. What? Are you guys going to do that? I'm with it. Are you guys kidding? Are you building it yourself? Yeah.

You get your mashed potatoes. So you're playing with your food. You make it, no, no, no. It's actually saving the gravy. You make it into a bowl, mashed tail volcano. It's like a lagoon of gravy. Okay. Then the gravy doesn't get wasted on the plate and then you can dip your turkey into it.

Ah. Like a sauce. And then at the end, you mix it up with the mash. Yeah. I've never done that. And I'm going to do that. That is genius. Mash potato gravy volcano.

You said it so fast. I didn't know what the fuck you were talking about. Yeah, I know. I actually think that it's a pretty normal thing, but I've never done it. I've never heard it called. I've never done it. A mashed potato turkey volcano. Billy, I'm in.

Yeah. I'll send you a picture. I'll send you a picture. Perfect. Thank you, Billy. I'm going to make a huge one. That is actually a genius thing. Thank you.

So you guys do cranberry or no? No, it's for candy asses. Oh, wow. Agree. Okay, well, guess what? You benched 285, dude. That was good, Billy. That was pretty good.

Oh, Freak Moose. Freak Moose. Freak Moose. Freak Moose. Freak Moose. Freak Moose. Uh-oh. What?

No. What? What, Mitch? I imported. No. Sure. All the chicken for it. Perce.

Breaking. Minnesota Badgers is a no-go. Fuck! They're disqualified. Who? Well, I mean, we were disqualified when we lost the question. Recurring guest Tom Fornally retweeted it. Who was it?

It's probably Jackie Azenori's. Was it Minnesota or Wisconsin? Wisconsin football and basketball beat right here. No, but is it who's fault? Oh. Who can I... Do I have to get... I'm basically asking, do I have to get in the front lines and be like, hey, guys, don't

COVID shame. It's a pandemic. Or do I have to be like, Minnesota, you fucking scumbags, how could you do this? I don't know. See how that works? That's just how my brain's working. It's Minnesota. I think Minnesota is probably just...

All right, good. So scumbags. I'm going scumbag route. Got it. Done. Well, Big Cat looks that up. I have a bonus cool throne. Get the shit out of Minnesota.

Recurring Blake of the Year, Blake Griffin is on the cool throne because he just got a new teammate named Anthony Lam out of the University of Vermont. So he's got the greatest teammate ever. All right, so Piston's winning the championship this time. Yep. Okay. Done. Destroy it.

Yeah. I really wanted to fucking... I wanted to skull fuck the gophers. They suck. They suck. Damn it, man. Fuck coronavirus, man. I just want to say that.

Oh, also, yeah. You know what? Just quick side-firefest, quick change died today. Quick change. He died. Oh, yeah. That was tough. He died.

He's dead because of coronavirus. The quick change guy. Quick change guy. The halftime, his wife would go out and they would... Red panda, those were like the two. They would fucking... He'd have the curtain and she'd be like in seven different dresses. How the hell this happened?

Quick change. He was the unsung hero that because I think a lot of times the lady that's doing the changing... His wife. ...gets more of the credit for it. But you could tell that he was real like brains behind the operation. I got a funny story I'll tell you guys off there about quick change. One time he dropped it and she came out nude. No, no, I can't say it.

But RIP quick change, especially on the day he died. I love quick change forever. It's not about quick change the story. I love quick change. Forever love quick change. Quick change. Fuck, man. It just sucks.

Everything sucks. All right. Let's do Pat Fitzgerald. Coach Pat Fitzgerald. And then we will get to our good friend Mark Titus talk college basketball and catch up with him about everything before we get to Pat Fitzgerald though. It is Thanksgiving week. Usually the biggest travel day of the year on Wednesday.

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It is coach Pat Fitzgerald off of a, I don't know, decent win, program defining when Wisconsin had three, their top three receivers out announced right before the game. The refs also were Northwestern grads, but a good win nonetheless. No, I'm serious. It is Pat Fitzgerald. Great coach. We wanted coach on. He was going to surprise me on Sunday night and rub it in, but I think you don't realize

I actually had a spin zone that you are the most disrespected coach in America. I don't know about that, man, but it's great to be on with you guys just trying to be a football guy. That's all I'm trying to do. I love it. All right. So here's my take. Here was my rant and you can, you can tell me and I don't, you can't go against your

own fans, but great game on Saturday. Your defense was phenomenal. That was a full through and through a big 10, nine punts in the third quarter, terrible football to watch, but I loved every second of it. I, you're a fan base afterwards and it's really more people in the media. We're talking about how this was such a huge upset and this huge win. And I have to take the path that's Gerald is a great coach and has a very good program and people should recognize that.

And it's not Northwestern from years and years and years ago. They are a good program that is consistently good and you are a great coach and people need to recognize that. So when you win games like that, it's actually kind of to be expected. You guys have been in the mix and the big 10 West. You won the big 10 West two years ago. Start putting some respect on Pat Fitzgerald's name. Well, I appreciate, I appreciate the rant and the support, but yeah, I mean, we've just

got to keep getting better. I mean, you're right. I was in a sexy game, but both teams have two ridiculous defenses and I think they played really well and proud of this group. I think they're very talented. I think this is maybe one of the more talented teams that I've had the privilege of coach top to bottom and you know, it's starting to showcase it. We got to still get a lot better as we go here in the last three weeks, but it's great

to be where we're at and you know, we got miles to go though miles to go. Well, yeah, you have miles to go, but I mean, I think it, it's possible that you guys could win the big 10 this year. It's not out of, out of the realm of imagination. Now obviously you're taking it one game at a time. So you have Michigan State, then Minnesota, then Illinois. If you have to break glass in case of emergency and bring in one alum to give the best pump up speech of all time before a game, I know sometimes you've had Mike Greenberg in the

locker room. Are you going to go with, with Greeny, Ravel or Wilbon or somebody else are Rachel Nichols or White Sox Dave. White Sox Dave would have some juice now. I mean, you know, he would have some passion behind what he was saying. There'll be some deep thoughts with some of the other Northwestern media mob that are absolutely outstanding, but I, I think they've all had their turn. They've already been a part of that.

They've all done a terrific job and I know they start to kind of get a little crazy after we have some big wins and I hope to continue. They could be completely crazy and you know, PFT, I heard you're, you're big into trolls. I heard you like trolling people. So I don't know who told you that. Well, I think maybe if we could do something here with our great Madill School of Journalism, maybe we could have a little offshoot and you become the dean of trolls. What do you think about that?

Yeah, I'm into that. So I was thinking, I don't know if you guys do this at Madill. I know they lost their accreditation, so they probably do, but do they offer like a correspondence course where I could take one class there and then become an alum, a Northwestern alumni and you bring me into the circle? Is that or I could start up the troll school? I have no problem doing that either. Yeah, I think I would just skip and go right to becoming the dean of the troll school.

I think you have a special, special expertise there that you'd be able to really teach that the future journalists of America. I love it. So the game against Wisconsin and more importantly, the fight and restavus is the comment that Joey Galloway made basically talking that, you know, Wisconsin isn't sexy. They don't have a lot of athleticism. They have fight and restavus is as a football coach, when a member of the media says something like that, or do your eyes light up hot?

Like, did you bring that to your guys or do your guys hear that anyway? Because it was clear afterwards that you use that as a rallying cry. And I actually think it was unfair that Joey Galloway did that to Wisconsin and the game is under protest. Well, I don't think you're going to get anything for the protest. Okay. One and I know Joey and I know Reese. Well, they're both great guys.

I didn't hear it. I didn't know it. Kyrick McGowan, our wide receiver, sent a kind of a group text to our unity council and said, what's this all about the fighting restavuses? And so I think it kind of hit like wildfire into our locker room. And our guys had fun with it the next day of practice. And I actually kind of got coached up a little bit by the guys. They they had heard.

And so we just ran with that. I don't think it was a rallying cry. I think it was more to have some fun and, you know, just enjoy the heck out of it. And we had Reese come on and zoom bomb the squad on Monday when we went over our players of the game and their highlights for the game. And, you know, I, you know, I think about zoom bombs. I think about coach Doug's coming on. I don't think we've lost since Doug's gave us that motivational speech this summer.

Oh, wow. I know I did the program. I turned it around. Yeah. You brought Northwestern back to eliminate. I did it to myself. That's tough. I did it to myself.

No, but I just always, those are, I love the human element of sports and and seeing that and it was very clear that the guys took that personally. And I guess maybe that's where the disrespect of you as a coach comes in that you probably have to keep the element of like, we are underdogs. We're not Ohio State. We're not Wisconsin. We're not Michigan. We're not like these big time, you know, larger big 10 schools.

Do you like, if you guys keep going with success, is there an element that you have to find a way to keep that edge of, hey, we're not a traditional powerhouse here? Yeah, well, I think you said it right earlier. We've had really consistent success now, especially over the last five years. I think we're making progress to where we want to be in this league. And, you know, if you get to that point in this league, then it happens naturally for the national audience and the way people feel. There are quite a few people out there that still remember Northwestern, maybe when we

had tough records. And last year, I think we took a step back from what people's opinions may be. But you can't, you can't ride that roller coaster. I think our guys just had fun with it. They enjoyed the heck out of, you know, something that was maybe a little bit humorous. You know, Joey making fun of Reese and then our guys grabbed it and ran with it. I love that aspect of it too. And, you know, if anybody's going to, you know, give you a chance for some bulletin board,

why not have some fun with it? Yeah, I love it. And I saw a clip of you on the sidelines. I think it was at halftime when you were jogging into the locker room. I think that you're still the biggest dude on the Northwestern sidelines. I think that you could kick all your, all your teams ass. Like if they came at you one by one, I think you walk out of the winners. Is there anybody on the team you think could beat you up?

No, I think I'd be VH one, man. I'd be a one hit wonder. I get one sucker punch in and I'd be like, there's no way I could do that. But I had a lot of fun with my man, Spandos. You guys like Spandos. I like it. Yeah. I like getting into weight room and getting in there a little bit.

We talked some smack to each other, but no, man, my days of all that stuff are stuck in the nineties and we wore neck rolls back then. So I need a lot of padding if I was going to touch any of our guys. Yeah, it's about to be Spandos weather. That's for sure. Do you think that it is an unfair advantage that Northwestern is allowed to have fans at their games? You guys had a packed house on Saturday.

Is that is, I mean, the rest of the big 10 is not allowing fans. Oh, you're beautiful. Yeah. I mean, it, it was great to have fans there. There's no question. I didn't, I didn't know that COVID was spreading in stadiums. I wasn't aware of that in the big 10 country because I think it was only parents and family members of our staff.

Oh, I, I thought that was the regular crowd. My bad. Yeah, I knew you were going to go there. That's okay. You know, that's okay. Everybody's got jokes. Is it? No, though.

Is it that this is actually a real question. Like do that little joke and then a real question. How hard is it to get your team kind of up in some of these games where you're playing in front of no one and having that level of intensity that you, that you want to reach on game day? Yeah. We were set at this summer, our linebacker, 51, who was a big 10 player of the week this week.

He called a BYOJ. Bring your own juice, man. This is going to be a year that you got to bring your own juice. You got to show up ready to go and, you know, our guys, the home games, I think the home team has a bigger advantage this year because you got, you know, you've only got 74 on the road and most of those guys are probably in your rotation, but it looks like everybody at home has got to like, we call it the juice box. You got a group of guys that are kind of bringing some, bringing some juice and having some fun

and I definitely think the home teams in at least some big 10 country, you know, with the small crowds and our no crowds, there'll be no crowd. We were told no family, no friends in Michigan State, same thing at Minnesota next week. So that makes it challenging. I know it's been a sell out at Camp Randall this year of nobody too, right? That's actually interesting. I didn't even think about that, that like the home when you have, how many guys can you have on the sideline?

Like it's like a hundred. It just depends on what your roster cap is. Yeah. So you can have as many as you have on your roster. That would help because you have a bunch of guys kind of hype men that are there. Yeah. That the other seat side doesn't have. And a little loophole.

Just give some more walkouts. Yeah. Walk-ons. Just like bring as many people as possible into the tent so that you can have more people in the stands. Yes. Yes. Big cat.

That can be another reason why we won last week. Yeah. No. Listen, you guys are the better team. I'm a, I'm a path and show guy. I said it on Sunday. I think you're disrespected. You're one of the best coaches out there.

You got your team playing great football. I, what do you think about all like when you look around college football? It is interesting. You see like Mississippi State, for example, they addressed 49 guys going to Georgia and they played really well. So how, like if when you have to deal with COVID or maybe the other side has a couple of guys out, how do you deal with that? Like game planning and getting ready.

Do you say, oh, they're missing these guys. We can change it up or do you just keep it going and whoever's out there is out there. Well, the way things are right now, no one's reporting in advance who's on their list of being out or in for the game. So it's really in game adjustments that you've got to look at where things are at and matchups and things of that nature. At this point, we haven't seen what we thought we're going to see on tape and then something different on game day.

So, so far it's been that way, you know, but you think about the NFL, they only dress what 46 guys for each game. So I mean, it's, it's, it's, you've had a, we did a bunch of research on that, getting ready for the season about how many guys we needed. Some leagues have a cap, like if you're down this amount of Lyman, this amount of quarterbacks are not going to play the game. The big 10 shows not to do that, which I thought was a good move. We want to try to play as many games as we can and we're not limiting based on availability,

but we have had some teams that unfortunately have had a cancel and listen, you know, if I don't say anything else, it's funny, but I will say something serious. You know, we're so thankful for our medical providers, you know, that have helped us all get through this and those that are on the front lines right now helping them in this pandemic is, is real. It's not going away. And those are the front lines, man. We lift you up.

We think about you. We pray for you. And we're very thankful for you. Yeah. And we're happy that a big 10 football is being played and I can watch nine punts in a third quarter. Yup. I think that's pretty sexy, man.

No, it's hilarious. Oh, it's, it's, I listen, I, I, I make fun of it from a place of love. When a game gets into a punt fest, like, like that game did, you really are like all that can change this game is one penalty, one 15 yard penalty, one punt return for not even a punt return for touching. I'm talking like a 15 yard punt return and the game completely changes. Yeah. No question.

It was one of those old school big 10 games, you know, and we found a way to get it done, but Wisconsin's an outstanding team. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. They'll be, they'll be back. I don't need to do that. Coach, I don't need that.

Coach, it's been a while since we've done this segment, but I actually, I was in touch with a friend of mine who is a third grade teacher, Mrs. Joyce. She teaches third grade right outside of Austin, Texas, and her class actually had a couple of questions for you. So they're pretty simple. You can give them one word answers if you want. This is from Flynn. Flynn wants to know, Coach Fitzgerald, what's your favorite color?

Purple. Purple. Do you like coaching offense or defense better? Special teams. Oh, good answer. And then the last question from Flynn, would you coach the Bears? I'll coach the cats. I'm happy with the cats.

So thanks very much. Okay. But, but Flynn also wants to know, once the season's over, and you guys have won a national championship at Northwestern, and the Chicago Bears offer you $10 million a year, are you going to accept that offer to coach the Chicago Bears? That's from Flynn. Well, my good friend Matt Nagy is the head football coach of the Bears, so I'm cheering for those guys big time here to get this thing going.

We can still make the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. We can still make the playoffs. Big cat. We just got a shot at a screen last night. Yeah. In the hunt.

In the hunt. We're in the hunt. We've got a chance to make it. Okay. So last question from Mrs. Flynn's, Mrs. Joyce's Joyce's grade class. It was from Timmy. He said, how much is too much money that you would just not be able to turn it down? They're going to turn a season around, man, and Matt's going to win a Super Bowl up there.

Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yep. I like that. I like that answer. All right. Well, coach, this has been awesome.

We appreciate you as always. Stop cheating with the grass. Tell Alex that we say hello. Yes. It's a great project for him to maybe get back over 300 pounds on the bench press eventually. Yep. Tell the guys of the team, congrats for me. That was a great win.

I was very, very, I really do think you guys are a great team this year. And you were saying before we even went on the Zoom that eight knows like already done and that you'll see Ohio State. That's what he said. Before we started taping, yeah. He was like, all right, we got me. I saw the recording button go on when I came on. So I'd like you to be able to prove that if you don't mind.

It's smart. It's smart. You don't want a Jeffrey Tubin situation. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck. And great win. And you guys are really good football team.

And people need to start respecting Pat Fitzgerald more as a great football coach. We're good, man. I'm more than thankful. Yeah. Appreciate you guys, man. Happy Thanksgiving. Don't eat too much turkey. Oh, no.

That's not even this year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Good luck with. Well, no, you don't need luck. Michigan State, Minnesota, Illinois.

You already count those as wins. You guys are the best. Go. All right. See you. See you coach. That interview, the coach, the chair was brought to you by our good friends, Norton, Norton VPN for gamers.

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It is Thanksgiving. We thought college basketball starting a little later than usual this year starts today, we're taping this on Tuesday starts today on Wednesday. Who's one of our best friends in the whole world? Who knows basketball inside and out? It is Ryan Racillo. Welcome to the show, Ryan. No, it's Mark Titus, one of our best friends.

You can find him on Titus and Tate podcast, you can find him on Fox Sports. He was on my TV the other day. He's everywhere Titus. Great to see you. Big cat. It's been a long road to get back to relevancy as you, as you pointed out to me many times over. Uh, you, I, I, I want to not make this contentious because I, I have a feeling the direction we're

going to take this, but, uh, it's hard not to look back on these last eight months and think about you taunting the coronavirus gods. Yeah. I will inject myself if, if the NCAA tournament gets canceled and I just felt like it was too much. And honestly, like I'm, I, I'm a little bitter about it because when we look back on the, the road that we, we just traveled college basketball was really the only sport to sacrifice to anything.

And, uh, we're the only sport that had the tournament canceled. No one else did. The NBA pretended they sacrificed, but then they spent so much time patting themselves on the back for coming up with a bubble that it really wasn't a sacrifice in the end. Um, but whatever. It's a good point. Yeah. It's a good point.

We're here. Uh, yeah. That was a regretful comment. We were, we were just laughing beforehand. Uh, PFT would say that he didn't respect coronavirus. I said it was overrated and overawed and it couldn't win on the road. Yeah. We called you a pussy for not flying out to the biggest, uh, championship.

And then we find out it's like actually a big deal and you guys just shrug your shoulders and go, huh, I guess we're wrong. Meanwhile, me and Rostin are crying in the corner. Like when are we, is our livelihood over now? Yeah. It was a little dicey for a, but I guess if you, if you look back on it, there's a silver lining. It looks like you really decked out your home office there.

How long did that take you to hang up all those pictures in perfect level with like, did you have to go through with a, uh, uh, take a shout out to Mrs. Poiseau, my eighth grade geometry teacher who, uh, there we go. Shout out. Help me all the angles and everything like that. And listen, we're not going to get contentious. So this is the last I'll say, uh, but what you just said is true. Um, you know, 250,000 Americans dead.

But the real loser here is Mark Titus cause the tournament got canceled. Coach K also in coach, coach K that's what you're saying. Just to sum up your point, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's exactly what I'm saying. I just, I, I see the future and in the future, I've said this to you both already, uh, we

fast forward to February, all the, all you football people spend all winter coughing on each other and making this all worse. And then everyone takes stock of, of the pandemic after the Super Bowl is played after national champion is crowned in football. And then we're like, Hey, we should probably take this seriously. We should cancel sports. Right. Can't sports aren't that important.

And then we go through it again. And college basketball is again the only sport to get. That's my favorite. I, I take offense to that. I truly love college basketball. It is my favorite sport to gamble on. I would, this feast week doesn't feel like feast week cause I'm not watching, you know, uh, shaman odd play Kansas at noon in Hawaii right now.

So it's my favorite week. I'm excited that we'll least get back Kansas. You know what? Let's start there. Kansas, Gonzaga on Thanksgiving day, um, will this be the year that Gonzaga finally gets to a final four? I think it might be, uh, Gonzaga is going to be really good. Uh, I, I, I really do.

I didn't love Gonzaga last year. They had a decent team, um, but I, I really do like Gonzaga's team. They got, they got a classic situation that I love in college basketball, which is trying to figure out who the best player on the team is, and this can only happen in college sports. Like in the NBA, it's, it's pretty obvious, you know, like the guys, I guess like the air of super teams, they argue over like his LeBron or AD better, but for the most part, like you kind of know, uh, but in college, they make arguments about like that guy's not the most talented, but he is the heart and soul.

Therefore he's the best. And then it's like, well, that guy's going to be the best draft picks if he's the best. And then it's like, well, this guy, you know, the whole offense runs through him. So he's the best. That's Gonzaga this year. I have like four guys who are the best player, uh, and I love that because yeah, you, you, you get these situations that you only get with college sports where you pretend like the guy who's like not that talented is actually the best player just cause he dies on the

floor. In the case of Florida state last year, actually there are six best player ended up being the best player overall. Yeah. So, but Mark Fu is a great coach and what you just described, I think it is interesting when it happens in college basketball, I would assume they'll still be okay. Because unlike, uh, when Duke has this problem and coach K just says, okay, everyone just take turns playing one-on-one basketball and we'll hold it works.

This will actually still work for Gonzaga. Correct. This will actually still, this is like a good problem. This is like, uh, yeah, Duke is, we're too good and coach K loses and the press conference is, and Kentucky does this too. Cal is actually, Cal does this more than K does, but, uh, you almost complain about how you're too good. You have too much talent.

You have too much. It's like, these kids, it's hard to get through to them. They're, they're so talented. I just don't know. There's only one ball. I can't really figure it out. That's not really Gonzaga's problem. Gonzaga, uh, Gonzaga is a good, Gonzaga is more like the Villanova teams that won that

one. Yes. And that regard where it's like, yeah. Like it's Jalen Brunser and Mikhail bridge is the best player on the team. And then we are, Oh, Mari Spellman. Yeah. Mari Spellman.

Yeah. It was Dante D Vincenzo off the bench. Yeah. That's like Gonzaga field this year. What was the team, the, the Duke team with, uh, Luke Canard when they, that was literally, they had four guys who all, and they all, it was the worst basketball ever to watch play. That was Brandon Ingram. That was, uh, Grayson Allen, Luke Canard.

I forget who the big guy was that year. And they just, it might have been Wendell Carter. It might have been. Yeah. And they just were like, yeah, we're all going to take turns and drive to the hoop. Yeah. The Zion team did that a little bit too. And Barrett and Cam, Cam Reddish was the three recruit in the country and he goes anywhere

else other than Duke and he's averaging 20 a game and he goes to Duke and he's like, am I allowed to shoot? Yeah. I could shoot. I should shoot now. All right. Are we overdue on a Gonzaga cheating scandal? I feel like they've really skated on the radar as the program has become, you know,

they're, they haven't been really the plucky underdog for the last 10 years. Something fishy is going on. Yeah. I feel like it might be, it might be stocked in. Who knows? I mean, it could be like, I don't know, there's some person in, uh, what's his name's underground apocalypse bunker. Adam Morrison.

Adam Morrison. I don't know what's going on, but like they're so far away from the East Coast media elites, the real journalists that I feel like it's easier to get away with cheating on the West Coast. Here's what it is. P.F.D. I like where your head's at. Gonzaga recruits all the international guys and I think what they're doing is they are

doing a money conversion and then they pay them and, and loonies or whatever it is, the Canadians. Are they actually loading up on a lot of Canadian talent and, and, and I think when you do the conversions, it gets a lot like the FBI can't track that they clear the trail. You know, like every other school is paying in dollar bills and cash and you see the cash, you see the ATM transactions, you're like, that's illegal. I feel like Gonzaga is, is getting these international guys and it's just getting their money in the water is better.

I'm on it. I'm on it. I famously two, two, three years ago, I got way too high one night and thought I uncovered a point shaving scheme with St. Mary's cause they had a bunch of Australian guys. Yeah. I had, I was going back in time looking at all their box scores cause there was a weird situation where they fouled like upset, they fouled up seven, like five different times to get the over.

And I was like, these guys are cheating. We watched like the replay of that and, and we were pausing it and be like, I think the coach is looking at the scoreboard right there, isn't he? That was, yeah. But yeah, it's, it's interesting, Mark, because I think that it's not against the law to just like go to a different country and be like, Hey, I want to buy like $500,000 worth of your money, but I think it's worth more. So I'll give you $1.5 million American dollars for that because I value it more.

Like, although I don't know why you do it with the players that St. Mary's gets. They're basically just like future punters for Bill Belichick at the draft. The real, the real galaxy brain move is Bitcoin. And I don't understand why college basketball programs haven't tapped in this. I just feel like when we have a resurgence in Ivy League basketball, Ivy League has taken the year off and that scares me because I think they're going to spend the year scheming. They're going to come up with something. They're going to come back in a big way.

And I'm worried it's going to be Bitcoin. They're going to find a way to pay players using Bitcoin. It's untraceable. That's all. That's all I really know about. I like we've got to start it about cash app, the official app because of recruiting violations. Can we say that?

That would be cool. They're a great sponsor. Yes. That would be very cool. All right. So, uh, yeah, Gonzaga Kansas on Wednesday is going to, or Thursday is going to be awesome. You want to do big 10. You want to talk a little big 10 because the big 10 is loaded.

It is truly loaded. Absolutely. All five starters returning for Iowa. I am, we're going to talk about the big 10, but just tell me my plan for early season bed in college basketball is just bed on the teams that have all their guys coming back, assuming there hasn't been a lot of practices and everything, right? Yeah. Yeah.

That seems to make a lot of sense. I would agree with that. Yeah. It's going to be, it's an absolute shit show, the practicing and the teams that have delays get, have to go on hold for 14 days or whatever. So who knows who, there's some schools that like can't even, uh, I think it was Georgia, tech said, I don't know if they're still doing this. It's hard to keep up with everything.

Georgia tech said they were trying to practice with like no contact and this was Josh Pastner's big idea. It was like, we're going to practice bad. So I don't know what they're just playing horse. Hoosiers. I don't really understand. Yeah. Hoosiers practices out of ball.

I, yeah, they should move the three point line in for this year only. That would be sick. Back in the day, you could find old footage. I think it was the ACC did like an experimental three point line and the three point line like cuts through. It's like barely above the Frito line. Yeah. No, it's super.

You could see like this old footage of like, yeah, back in the eighties, the guys taken like 16 footers. Dude. And then even in the 90, like Clito, I mean, in the Yukon, those Yukon teams, they would hit threes and it would basically be an extended free throw. Yeah. It was awesome. So, all right.

So big 10. So who are those teams? Like obviously Wisconsin, they're bringing back. They're bringing back a bunch of seniors. Baylor's bring Baylor, I think as a, as a team, if you're talking like nationally, not in the big 10. Baylor brings back a ton of guys. Quinceas is coming back.

Yeah. Yeah. Baylor. All right. So tell me this Baylor, cause I basically early college basketball before I have a feel for all the teams. Yeah. I just go on like what I assume every program is and Baylor is a bunch of guys who are like

six, eight who don't play basketball well, but can just like block every shot and are more talented athletically than every other team. They are now, I see where you're going with that. They are now like a three guard. They are kind of a diet version of the Illinois, the O5 Illinois team. Oh, I love the three guards. Yeah. Yeah.

Like they have like three really good guards. They guard. Well, there's one guy who's like the designated scorer. One guy's the designated assistant. One guy's the designated lockdown D guy. That's just how they, they, they operate. They play great defense. Baylor is going to be pretty good.

I, I, I liked it, but we want to talk about the big 10. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Iowa can't play defense, but everyone's excited about Iowa. Cause Lucas Garza is very good. He's good. Yeah.

Iowa is, Iowa is going to be the most fun team in the big 10. So everyone listening that doesn't care and just wants to watch like good college basketball game or just sort of be entertained, Iowa is going to try to score a hundred points every single time they get on the floor. They're going to give up 93 probably every single game, but they're going to, they're going to score a hundred. Lucas Garza is awesome. Wease camp is awesome.

A lot is being made about Bohannon, their point guard, who was a senior last year, but was hurt again and then got to come back. He's like a seventh year senior at this point. He said like two hip surgeon, Iowa fans are really excited that he's coming back. I'm not really sure how effective he's going to be, but yeah, that's the M.O. on Iowa's like, they might have the best offense in the country, but they, of all the good teams, they might have the worst defense. Right.

We do do the two eligibility rules applied. Is this year not count like it's in football? No, I think, I think you're right. Yeah. I think like my understanding is like guys can basically come back next year. So Brad Davis is going to play 10 years. Brad Davis is going to get another year. People are going to be so mad at him next year.

I fucking love it. What about Michigan? What about Joanne Howard? I want to get excited about Michigan. No, no. All right. That was our Michigan. Wait.

No. Michigan. Michigan. Michigan. Michigan. What's going to be more disappointing? Michigan's football season or Michigan's basketball season? Michigan's football season.

Michigan football sucking powers the basketball program. I really think that something, there's like something to that. Like the worst the football program does, the more people shit on hardball by saying Michigan is a basketball school now, which is good because like you're saying that to shit on hardball. But what's happening is like a real life narrative is building that like Michigan really is a bad, like a really good basketball school. So now Joanne Howard, he has the number one recruiting class next year that Michigan is

a year away. We'll put it that way. They have the number one recruiting class next year. But I really do think like the worst the football program does, like the donors probably like are writing checks and they're like, do not give this to Harvard. Like in the memo, it's like, do not pay hardball with this. Please funnel this to the basketball program. It's like they get better.

The worst the football team gets. Wait. Is it Monty Bates? Is he going to Michigan State next year? He's like three years away. Oh, I see. He's one of those guys. So every now and then you get a guy like, so Tony Sheffler, our friend, he coaches our

high school basketball in Michigan. So he put me on to a Monty Bates like four years ago when he was like in seventh grade. So I feel like a hipster being like, here he comes. Like I've been hearing about this guy. He's a junior, I think. That's crazy. He's still like two years away. By the time he comes out, he'll probably go to the G League anyway.

Yeah. I feel like I've been watching highlights of him for a decade. So Mark, as an expert, how have you been getting ready for the season? Do you get like your hands on practice film? Have you been watching like the real grainy stuff taken from the third death? Well, this is a good, the one silver lining about not having a tournament is we, we could just speculate on as to what would have happened. And so speculation is just running wild heading into this season where you could pretend like,

you know how many teams I've said won the national title last year? Like I've given it to Dayton. I've given it to, yeah, we'll give it to UCLA. I've given it to Kansas. So going into this season, you, you can kind of, it's kind of a choose your own adventure. It's like Kansas is looking to build on the momentum of winning last year's national title and they're going to be good this year. Baylor, of course, was the best team in the country.

Everybody knows that they were the best last year. So you just kind of like grab onto things like that and run with it. Whereas usually like, Iowa is a great example. Maybe Iowa gets upset in the second round last year and then we're coming into this season and nobody's high on Iowa. Yeah. These guys are frauds. They're bombs.

We saw, we saw what happened in the second round when they were upset, but we didn't get a tournament. So now we're like, yeah, Iowa could be pretty good. I don't know. And that's just kind of it. Yeah. You shrug your shoulders. Wisconsin was playing their best basketball.

That was actually probably the last sporting event I watched was Wisconsin winning the big 10 title at Indiana. When was the first Wisconsin game you watched? Was it before or after February? I watched too much college basketball. It does nothing for my job. I know you watched college. You were out on what?

Dan, you came, you came on our show and you said fire Greg guard. Oh yeah. No, there was, well, because we lost to like, who'd we lose to? We lost to like New Mexico in that tournament in Brooklyn. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a, I'm a reactionary fan. Well, one, the last thing I remember was UNC didn't not make the NCAA tournament last

year. So they could still win it this year. Yeah. True. Blue blood. They could be back. True. UNC, Duke, people forget Duke was the very first team to say we are out of the tournament.

Yeah. We are withdrawing from the NCAA tournament and Kansas followed right after. So there is that. Yeah. When it comes to UNC though, obviously they can't be as bad as they were last year, right? That's just an aberration. They're going to, they're going to be back. They're going to be a top 20 team.

Yeah. They'll be, they'll be pretty good. Yeah. They're going to be, they're going to be, they're not going to be like as good as Carolina wants to be, but they're definitely going to be much, much better than they were last year for sure. Yeah. They got, they got a lot of good recruits and yeah, they, they were, it was a mess last

year and, and Cole Anthony took a lot of the heat for that because he was like, he became like the face of Carolina, but they, they, they really weren't good. They just weren't, it did. Yeah. I wish that with everything that's going on and how weird this year is that we could just slip in like Luke may should try to play again for Carolina this year. Like no one would flinch. Everybody's like, Oh yeah, he's there.

Yeah. Yeah. You're absolutely. Luke may is the type of dude that is probably still around Chapel Hill like practicing with the team anyway. Right. Right. And just like, Oh, okay.

Then Luke may. All right. Well, like, yeah, we'll allow it. Um, we have to talk. I know that, uh, a lot of my followers and people who listen to the show are very, very excited about Illinois. They are going to be very good. They are very good.

Last year. Um, do they have enough though? Cause we know the big 10 hasn't won a title in fucking forever. Do they have enough to maybe go all the way? I think Illinois is best suited for, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to do a thing where I cast a wide net. So I can't be wrong. Love it.

Uh, Wisconsin is best suited for the NCAA tournament in the sense that, uh, I see Wisconsin going to an elite eight. That makes a lot of sense. Let's go. Wisconsin is not. It's not going to get over the hump. Wisconsin could go on. It could, it could be very good.

They could. Wisconsin could go undefeated this year and be a one seed and be in the final four. And I am betting the house that they are not winning the national title. They just don't have the final push Illinois is the team that is the most likely to win a national title. I think that now, having said that they could flame out, but like the, the ceiling, if we're talking like ceilings and floors, Illinois has the highest ceiling to me. Uh, they, they, they have the most athleticism.

I think of all the good teams in the big 10. I don't think that's debatable when you look at like Iowa and Wisconsin, and those are your, well, those are the two teams you're up against. It's not that hard. Um, they play defense. They got a D'Soumos who's going to, I think he's the best two way player in the country. He's going to be awesome. Uh, Coburn's like, like baby shack down on the low block.

Um, yeah, they have, they have a really, really good team. If you're an all, this is definitely the best Illinois team since oh five. Wow. Okay. Um, I think Illinois is the team. I'm, I'm the highest on in the big 10 going into the season. Anytime you can drop a baby shack in there. I'm all on board and everyone will see his name who doesn't watch college basketball.

I'd be like, this guy's name's Cockburn. Yeah. Yeah. That, that is always a fun thing. Now, one last big 10 question from a, he's going to block us and never speak to us again or he already expects it and we're, it's going to be fine when we shit on him. How bad is Maryland going to be for Scott Van Pell? Oh, oh, yeah.

Cause he takes it very, very, very seriously. He takes it a lit, like Van Pell is, he takes it too seriously and the sense of like, if I'm Van Pell, so if, if I'm in his shoes and I'm coming into this season, we just won the big 10 last year. Like Maryland has, has been the step child of the big 10, right? Like it's, it's the big, we don't want them in the big 10. No, we never, it's never felt right. Them and Rutgers get them out of here, but they finally went, uh, Mark Turgeon was like

a wrestling heel down the stretch. He's talking shit to all the other big 10 coaches and press conferences and I remember they won at Minnesota and it was like a, it was a big win. It kind of like secured the big 10 title for them. And the very first question is like, coach, great win. How, how, you know, how do you feel right now? And he basically used this, the very first question he used his time to basically just bitch about how he has to play.

He had to travel from Maryland to Minnesota on a week night to play a 9 PM tip game. He's like, fuck the big 10 office for doing this to us. Fuck all of you. Like that was their attitude. So what I'm saying is if I'm SPP, I just appreciate last year I'm going into this year and I'm like, I don't care. We did it. We pissed off the entire conference.

We won a title. We can share, but I don't feel like he's going to do that. I feel like he's going to like the moment they start losing and you and I start joking about it. He's, he's going to get, he's going to be very upset. Oh, I think always, always. I don't know. I, I, yeah.

I actually appreciated with him because he's, he, he just admits it like this is my thing. Like Maryland hoops is the thing I care about more than anything. I actually think that's a healthy thing to pick one sport, one team and be like, here's all of my emotional energy and then not spread it out over multiple sports. And he's like, this is it. If you make fun of Maryland hoops, I will be mad. Even if I smile on your face, I'll put you on a list and I will hate you forever. That's true.

That's true. We've traded Scott Van Pell. I've traded just sending each other back pictures of like Wisconsin's big 10 ring and Maryland's big 10 ring because it was a share and like you can just argue about it forever. That's, I love the, yeah, the two of you, like Wisconsin won the big 10 because they had a easy schedule down the stretch. They were absolutely dog shit for most of the year. Guys like you were saying fire the coach and then they went eight in a row and like

now Wisconsin fans are like, we did it. We're awesome. We're bringing everyone back. Let's forget that. Like I hated this team for three fourths of the season. Well, Maryland, Maryland like limps down the stretch. They should have won the big 10 by like three games and they almost choked the whole thing away.

But they want it. It's, it was, it's a very weird situation where the two of you are like celebrating, but you know, in the back of your minds, no, that was not a convincing. No, it was a share. It was a share of a title, Michigan State, Maryland and Wisconsin. Yeah. What about the best player to come out of the state of Wisconsin, possibly ever, uh, Jalen Johnson, right?

But would you say the best Wisconsinite of all time? No, what about, uh, the West Virginia, uh, Pitz novel? No, Jordan McCabe, right? What about a, uh, Tyler heroes from Wisconsin? Yes, he is. Okay. What is, uh, what, isn't short? Is it Jordan McCabe?

Am I saying that? Is that who he is? West Virginia? Is he, is he from Wisconsin? He is. Cause I remember when we went to see huggy, they're like, we just got your boy and they showed me and he had like an and one mix. Oh yeah.

That's right. Yeah. He was just palming the ball. I didn't know I even had a boy, but there we go. Yeah. Uh, West Virginia is going to be good. West Virginia. Hell yeah.

I know you guys love huggins as much as I do. They're going to be awesome. They're not going to, they're not doing the press Virginia thing though this year. So, uh, be prepared for that. Why not? They're, they're, cause they don't have Javon Carter to piss everybody off. He's another guy who should come back. Yeah.

Have you been, have you been a West Virginian scene, huggy bear setup that he has at practice with the treadmills right next to the court? I think I've just seen you guys talk about it. I think when you guys were there, that was the only time. Yeah. I've never been to practice there. I've been to the arena on game day. Yeah.

I've seen the game there, but yeah. If you, if you have a minor fuck up in practice, he's like the Joe judge of college basketball. He'll put you immediately on the treadmill and just stand next to you and watch you run. And it's going like 12 miles an hour. And I've never been intimidated having somebody else watch me run before like I was when Huggins was watching us do wind sprints just with his arms folded. Like I wanted to puke my guts up for the guy.

We did a preseason show for FS one where we, we got to interview Huggins and I, I've never been so nervous in my life talking to anybody. I, I, I, cause the whole time, like all you're trying to do, you're not even trying to interview him. You guys know this, you've talked to him. You guys, you know, well, um, I, I was just, you know, I was just, you know, I was just trying to like, I just want him to, to my goal was that he gets done with the interview and then he turns to the assistant is like, I like that guy.

How do I become best friends with him? I want to be best friends with him. Like that's what I want, but you know, you're never going to do that. And you also know that like the one thing Bob Huggins, if you, if you really love Bob Huggins, you know this about Bob Huggins is that the last thing that Bob Huggins wants to do is be interviewed by a dipshit like me. Yeah. So it's like, we're, it's a, it's a weird thing where it's like, if I really cared about him,

I would just not interview him at all. I'd be like, thanks coach, but I'm going to give you your free time. That would be the move. Yeah. That's the move. And then he's like, I like that guy. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Can you, can you break Hank's heart real quick and tell him why Duke is going to stink? Duke, because I mean, their best player they're bringing back are two white dudes, basically. I mean, I guess one don't more accounts, but like it's Joey Baker, Matthew Hurd. Like, Duke does not have a great recruited class. I feel like I'll say this, Coach K was leading the charge to have every team make the NCAA tournament this year.

I don't know if you guys saw that. That was like a proposal put out by the ACC coaches and Coach K through his weight behind it. Yeah. And I don't think that was a coincidence. I think there was something through that. I think Coach K was like, yeah, these are weird times. We should have everyone make the tournament. And I just found, I found the timing of that interesting.

Yeah. At a win, every game canceled should just be a win on the coach's record. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Has nothing to do with the fact that I'm trying to run up the score here. And every game I lose during a COVID season should go to my assistant coach. Yeah, absolutely.

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of the NBA playoffs is the ideal point to start the season for Rick. Do you think that he actually has a reason for asking for that, or is he just doing it to get his name in the papers? Yeah. That's a great question. I actually support his idea if we would have come up with this idea a few months ago. Because again, I see the future. The future is we all look up after the Super Bowl and say, wow, this pandemic is out of

control again. Let's cancel everything and wait for the vaccines just around the corner. Are we sure we should be playing sports right now? Let's cancel everything. And then the vaccine comes out like April 1st, right after the tournament would have been played. Don't do that. And then every other sports back.

And then like, I think that's where Petino said that is like, wait for the vaccine. But I like the idea theory. I know you're a fan of my proposal, PFT, which is the final four is going to be in Indie this year. Not even just because they announced they're playing the whole tournament in one location, it was scheduled to be in Indianapolis this year anyway. So have the final four during Memorial Day weekend, double it up with Indie 500 and create the greatest.

I mean, what better way would there be to celebrate a vaccine and we can all get together again? Yeah. If there is indeed a vaccine, say in like April or March or whatever it is. And then come May, Memorial Day weekend in Indianapolis. Everyone descends and we set the city on fire with the final four and Indie five. That's our great week right there. I hope it happens.

We can give all the credit to Dan Dockage for doing that. And Rick Petino. Yeah. The moral heartbeat of America. What is so we only say nice things about Rick Petino now, or I personally only say nice things. I don't even know if I've told you, but I do have a stalker that you told me you told me.

He popped back up. Yeah. You guys went to the press conference. Then you had like a dicey situation where you're like, I kind of have to look over my shoulder because of yeah, he popped back up. Some guy just randomly texted me and was like, Hey, I'm, what did he even say? He said he made up a name and was like, I'm Rick Petino's PA is like, I can, I can make your life a very sticky situation.

Yeah. Watch yourself. Yeah. He's like, he's like, we could do it the easy way. Like we want to bury the ax or something like that. I was like, dude's not the same. Easy way or the hard way that we're going to become very easy after 15 seconds. Don't I did not laugh at that joke and credit to the Iona staff because I reached out to

them and I was like, Hey, does this guy exist? And they're like, Nope. So Rick Petino probably has no idea. It's not his fault. There's just some crazy Rick Petino fan who every time I say anything about him texts me and he's like, you're going to die. But is Rick Petino. So how's Iona going to be?

And do you think like, what's the timeline for Rick Petino to be back in major college basketball? Maybe St. John's. I don't know. But where, how long will it take because we need him back in our lives. Yeah. He's going to be back by the way. He's talking about, this is his last stop and, and he just wanted to, he's excited

to retire at Iona and all that kind of stuff. But you guys remember, you were there at his press conferences, how many times did he retire that summer? Yeah. How many, how many interviews did he say were, this is my last interview. I'm doing this just for closure. And then then two days later, he's on Dan Patrick's show. He's like, this is my last interview, Dan.

I'm doing it for closure. I'm retiring. I'll never coach again. So he's saying that at Iona, but yeah, he's definitely, this is, this is a stepping stone for sure. He's just trying to get his way. And I think the place for him, I'm calling my shot is going to be Boston college, Boston college is about to fire their coach.

They were going to fire their coach last year, but then COVID hit. They just got a new athletic director. His contract's kind of running up anyway, Boston college is about to be open and it's a Catholic school. Iona is a Catholic school. Rithpatino is a Catholic man. It's all, it all lines up. Coach and Providence, old, old, big East, old, big East ties.

Boston college has like some, you know, they had the 1979 point shaving scandal. They, they have a little checker past themselves. So they'll get together and they'll be like, listen, bygones or bygones, you're reformed, we're reformed, let's get together and give each other another chance. What do you say? I love, I love how your mind's thinking on that one. And thinking back to that press conference, I don't even remember what he was doing in that, like what the purpose of the press conference was.

He was just giving a press conference to say, fuck you. To not apologize. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, I'd like to welcome all the journalists here to tell them to suck my dick. I just know that whenever, and again, I'm not saying anything bad about Rithpatino. I am. I officially am not.

But when you do a press conference at your lawyer's office, never a good sign that things are going well. Do you remember that whole summer he kept invoking his brother-in-law who was killed in the 9, 9, 11 attack and he kept doing is like a sympathy thing because the, the, the dorm that Louisville that, that the strippers were at that caused the whole thing was named after his brother-in-law. So for some reason he felt like when he would do these, you know, people would ask him like, Rick, you are, you, you've lied throughout this whole process.

You cheated many times over and you'd finally got caught and fired for it. Like, do you want to say you're sorry? He's like, my brother-in-law died 9, 11. And I think, uh, and you're like, what does that have to do with it? No, that was the reason why I couldn't be guilty because never in a million years would he send hookers over to a building that had his dead brother's name on it. So like, obviously, like you can't, you can't even look at him as a suspect in that. And the craziest thing about Rick Petino, and this will be actually be in defense of

Rick Petino. I mean, he's obviously a phenomenal coach, but he's no crazier than any other major college coach. He just got caught with some of his crazy. This is why, this is why Rick Petino's pissed off about why it was fired. Cause like when the dust is settled, and I guess it hasn't completely settled yet, but the FBI whole situation, um, where if you're not like in the, the nitty gritty of college basketball, uh, you know, the FBI thing hit and you expected like everybody to be fired.

Right. Rick Petino is basically the only name that carries any weight that was fired over all of that. And I think he's bitter about that. And thankfully so he's looking around. He's like, what the hell? Like Sean Miller will wait. Hello.

Right. And I got fired. And he's the old, he's the guy who kind of invented the game too. So he's like, why, why does what way to keep his job and I don't get to keep mine? And I think he's just upset about it, which is why he's definitely going to get a power conference job. He's definitely going to like make one last push where he's going to have a good team that's that's like final four good.

He's got to go to it. He's got to go to a team that is practiced and tried and true at just ignoring scandals because they will go away. Like LSU was just like, yeah, all right, there might be stuff allegedly on tape, but if we just don't talk about it, we'll let them back on campus after a week and a half. And you've said this mark and it is true. Like the Rick Petino got screwed. The NCAA is so hypocritical with everything they do.

And the only reason they cared is cause the FBI got involved and the NCAA looks the other way on everything because they have billions of dollars at risk. So if you are Rick Petino, I think you do have kind of a fair gripe be like, yo, this was the deal. You guys look the other way. I put out a good team. We all make a shitload of money. That's college basketball.

Exactly. That that's just, that is his whole point of view. That's why all of his rhetoric is like, I take full responsibility, but none of this is my fault, which like contradicts the idea of taking full risk. Like he says, but it's kind of true stuff, but it's kind of true. That's where he's coming from. He's like, I don't understand. This is the game.

We played the game. We're all playing the same game. Why am I going down for this? I don't understand. I'm very confused. Um, but he'll be back. He'll definitely. Good.

If you go back and you watch that HBO mini series that came out, it was just like Christian Dawkins. The only reason why the coaches even got involved was because the FBI told the runners to get the coaches involved to try to trap them in it when they didn't have, like there was no reason to be bringing them. They get paid. They get paid millions of dollars a year. They don't need $20,000 for like one guy to go into the school.

So really it comes down to like the FBI had a hard on for Rick Petino at the end of the day. And it's, we're in fucking bizarro world that we find ourselves defending Rick Petino. This vociferously on a podcast, but I will continue to make fun of him. I will not. I will not. I will not. I have a mid major question for you.

Yup. Sister Jean's still alive. I'll tell you, you're going to say, is Creighton going to be good this year? Well, Creighton is not going to be good this year. Creighton is going to be great this year. AOC, right? Yes. AOC.

AOC is AOC is going to make the difference. AOC stands. Or, okay. Pick one of these two mid majors, Creighton or Loyola with what's his name, Cameron, Cameron Crut with the big guy that can dish it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, if I'm, which team is going to be better between those two, definitely Creighton. The mid major to watch out for, the mid major to get excited about is Yukon. They get so mad when you say that, it's awesome. Yukon is the only blue blood mid major we have in college basketball. I think that's why that's what's so unique about it. Xavier. They are simultaneously a blue blood, but also a mid major. The serious answer, I think Richmond is a team a lot of people are excited about.

They play great defense. They bring a lot of guys back. That's the same as we, that's the reason to get excited about them. Don't ask me to name any of those guys. I just say they bring them back and then you guys not along be like, oh, that sounds good. Yeah. They're going to be pretty good.

They're, they're, I think they're the favorites in the eight 10. Um, yeah, I don't, I don't know who I, there are a couple like Southern conference teams like Furman and UNC Greensboro people are high on, um, but you know, whatever. What is Yukon going to be good? I fucking love Danny Hurley. I love, love, love Danny Hurley. Uh, so they got this guy, James Book Knight, who is not Kimba Walker is not Shabazz Napier. But, uh, the, the team is going, like if the team is going to be good, they're going to

have to follow the Kimba Shabazz model of just like, give the ball to this guy and everyone get the hell out of the way. So I don't know how good they're going to be, but they're going to be Yukon. They're going to feel like Yukon. You know, like if they squeak into the tournament, it's going to feel like Yukon because James Book Knight is just going to have to average 30 a game and carry the team on his back, which is going to be awesome. They need, uh, if, if they're going to be truly Yukon, then they need, uh, a big guy

who's like a little, little limited, but has a few huge games like a Josh moon. Who's the other guy? Um, uh, she seemed to be, it was, but, uh, Bill and the wave. I was on some good teams. Jeff Griff. No, Jeff Griffin. No.

Um, Jeff Adrian. Jeff Adrian. Yeah. He was in that line where it's like every now and then they'd have a huge game of like, Oh fuck, this guy's real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh, who, who was that on the, the shit they had? I, I, I get the 14 of the live. It's been so long. I get those teams. Was it Oriaki? Was it? He was just like randomly during the insane turn around and have like three good plays. Yes.

Kind of disappear again. Damn. Um, watch out for them. Yeah. I love Danny Hurley though. I want him to do well because he is, he is so, I actually think we should probably now that I'm saying this out loud, we, it might be too late, but maybe for, uh, Biggie's play wait, are, is Yukon back in the big East?

Yeah, they are. Yeah. They're back in the big this year. Yeah. We could do like over under for the season technical fouls for Danny Hurley. Hmm. He's good for one every like three games. The Dan Hurley move I'm, I, I'm calling, it's not going to happen, but it'd be awesome

is Sean Miller gets fired at Arizona and then Dan Hurley gets hired in Arizona. Yeah. Then Hurley, Hurley, Hurley is in Arizona. Yeah. Wow. That's what I, that's what I have my fingers crossed. It's not going to happen, but. Uh, all right.

So let's do a little pack 12 and then we'll circle back and finish the ACC. Um, there's another count. Huge news. We're just going to skip over shock of smarts here. Oh, well, we talked about Kansas and Baylor, but yeah, shock of smart. Yeah. He's got hair. Uh, pack 12.

Do we care? Are they going to be like, if we do the, if we do the traditional stereotypes of the pack 12, Washington will have three lottery picks and win four games. Oregon will be really, really good because their coach is awesome UCLA will have a moment where everyone be like, is UCLA back? And uh, yeah, Arizona, Arizona, Arizona will be good and losing the elite age. Yeah. Oregon will be good, but, but Oregon will be good, but in a way that like kind of what

you just did without even realizing it where you don't know anyone's name. You don't even know the coach. Like most people only know the coach's name. They just know that Oregon's good. Yeah. Maybe you're lucky if you know, Peyton Prichard was the point guard there, but like no one actually watches them. You just know you're supposed to say they're good and you, yeah, that seems to be what

happens with Oregon. Oregon's going to be good. Uh, so Arizona's going to suck. Um, they're, they're going to be really bad. UCLA is going to be good. It's UCLA and Arizona state. I think in all seriousness, the pack 12 will be worth watching for, uh, the pack 12 was been good, but I think they were good last year, but, uh, I think this is the first

season, a long time going into the season. I'm actually excited to watch back to a basketball in a very long time. They have, uh, Stanford has a kid, a five star kids, they're Williams who played with a Brownie James and D ways son, and it was actually the best player on that team. That's a fun little stat. Yeah. Yeah. So Stanford is going to have like a good, a five star that's going to be good.

Uh, Arizona state's loaded. They got, they got five stars and Remy Martin's back. He's an all-American, um, UCLA brings their whole team back. They're kind of the Wisconsin of the West coast where like they got hot at the end of the year and, um, they won most one, one of the pack 12. So yeah, give it a try. The pack 12 is going to be good. Good.

Yeah. I'm excited about that. I love the pack. You guys are micronon guys. We love micronon. I feel like you make fun of micronon a lot. But I don't understand how I got this reputation. Micronon because you're a big Hollywood guy, you're a big West coast guy and you lost,

you lost your roots in Ohio. I just like LeBron James, myself and make, we're the, we're the triumvirative guys from Ohio that moved to LA and, uh, yeah, I'll just try to, I'll just try to find a way to invoke LeBron. That was really, I mean, you do look good. I actually texted you. I texted Titus totally out of the blue like two months ago and I was like, Hey bro, like we don't do this enough with each other as like men, but you're looking good.

I appreciate it. You did look good. I saw you. I saw a picture of you on the beach. I was like, dude, you're skinny. The bulimia, bulimia is doing me well. Yeah. Uh, what, uh, where are we at on the diet?

We're, we're, have been, are we flowing? We gave up till January 1st. We threw in the towel. There's a, there's a moment every November, early November where I'm like, am I going to try? Nope. All right. Yeah.

And now like even, even Thanksgiving week, I'm like, dude, it's Thanksgiving week. I'm going to eat. What were you saying? I will say at one point you said you were going to be like, I'm going to start doing this thing where it's you work out for an hour and a half. Oh, it's 75 hard. 75 hard is my new thing. It's a, every day for 75 days straight.

If you, if you, if you fuck up, you have to restart. You have to work out for an hour and a half. You have to be on a diet. You have to drink a gallon of water and read 10 pages of a book. Jesus. 75 hard. And then you have to tweet about it and tell everybody that you did. I think that's probably a part of the 75 hard diet too.

Yeah. Nobody does that diet without telling everybody. Right. And it's one of those things that you find this diet like late at night on a Saturday after watching too many sports and eating ice cream. You're like, all right, tomorrow 75 hard. I haven't started yet because that's actually the hard part. It's so hard.

I haven't even started. In all honesty, living in California, it just, it's, it's, I don't know, it's, it's hard to find things that have gravy on them. It's, the weather's always nice, so you kind of feel like you got to be in shape because you're like, you can't hide it with sweats. Right. So how much are you benching? Yeah.

Uh, 286. Oh, that's pretty good. Wow. That's huge. That's huge. Yeah. Yeah. That's really impressive.

It's a random big number. For a former college athlete, that's really impressive to be able to bench. 286. 286. I couldn't imagine benching even a pound less than that. I don't know what I would think. Yeah. You miss, you miss your, uh, what was that restaurant you took us to in Columbus?

We walked in. Oh, Nancy. Where did we go? Did we go to Nancy? And, and Ty's like, let's go to this place. It's a great place. Walk in, look to the right. And he's like, oh yeah, there's a frame picture of me here.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Yeah.

I need to do that. I need to, I need to work that again. I need to go back to Columbus and make that happen. Uh, by the way, speaking of, we, we, we brought up Billy, Bench Press, and Rossillo and all that shit. Oh, is that what you were talking about? No, you didn't. No, you didn't.

You said you were just bench training. I got to ask you. Yeah. Coincidence. I, you guys know Rossillo better than me. Should I, how do we, are, are we worried about him at all? Cause I keep seeing these videos that he's putting out with the ringer and, and he came on your, your show and everything.

You thought you're making fun of my backdrop, having this, this man looks like he's in a basement. I know. No. And, and, and I'm just worried. I know he lives down in Manhattan Beach. So I'm the California, we're all, we're all for like, you know, we're kind of buddies and all that.

I'm the California guy. Like, should I worry about him? Should I go down and visit him? I don't know. I never know how to approach Rossillo. Like what I was talking about with Huggins earlier. Yeah. It's the same.

So like, I love the guy to death, but I also think that like the last thing he wants is me to text him and say, what's up, bro? You want to hang? I think his backdrop in his room that, uh, yeah, it looks like a dorm room. I think that's just response to a certain podcast he did like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, trying to keep it nice and yeah. Yeah. Minimalist.

I'm a regular guy. Yeah. If you go, if you go into the next room, that's where you have like the original war hauls, hang on that. He's got what is it? What's the dude who has like the big bubble sculptures, the Jeff, something? Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, shit. Were they the Kaleachies?

Kaleaches. Bubbles. We're so. Yeah. No. I saw one down in Atlantic city earlier. Bubble sculptures. Jeff.

Uh-huh. The mouse head things? No, Jeff Koons. Jeff Koons. No, I'm thinking about something else. The balloon, the balloon animal thing. Yeah. The big balloon.

Jeff Koons. Who's the other guy that does the glass artist? It's Chululi. Chululi. That's what I was thinking. No, that's the hot sauce. Chulula is the hot sauce. Chululi is, yeah, he's got original Chululis.

He actually has just, he's got an overhead projector that just shows his Onus Wagner card on his projector screen on the wall at all times. So it's kinda like art. I think you should just hit him up. Racille's one of those guys that, every time I talk to him, it's like, man, I should talk to him more because like, it's just,

I know. He's thinking about stuff better than everyone else. That's kinda where he's always at. I think the nicest thing you could do to Racille as a friend is just hit him up and be like, hey man, you wanna hang out sometime and let him reject you. And he'll feel good about that.

But that's as good as hanging out for him. All right, all right, I'll do it that way. I just, I feel like maybe, you know, the guy's a little bit of a loner already and then the quarantine situations have. In California, we're still like very shut down out here. So I just, you know, I worry about him and I don't know. I don't know how to play it.

I don't want him, yeah, I don't know if I'm supposed to reach out to him or not and yeah, here we are. I don't know if he said this on the pod, but I might have said it, but he, in the most Racille thing ever, he built a gym in his garage, I think. And when he was building it, he like got trapped behind it, trying to build it

and like literally almost died from his squat rack, which would have been the greatest death of all time. And Ryan Racille died because he got stuck behind his squat rack for seven days. Oh my God. He was like, yeah, for like last 20 minutes, I've been stuck behind my squat rack trying to build this thing. Oh my God.

You should, you know what you should do? You should just find out where he's going to be shooting hoops one day, roll up, start, and then like let him get hot for a second. Yes. Just warming up and then right before they pick teams, go out there and start filling it up. Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They guard him and yeah, that's a good call. All right, Chaka Smart, give us some Texas talk. He has here. Texas five star recruit, Greg Brown, that's a local kid from Austin. It's the same thing every year with Texas. It's like this has to be the year for Chaka.

He's got a good team, but they're actually like not that awesome. And they're in the big 12, which is going to be loaded. I think it's just going to be more of the same. Like he's going to do enough to give you, to make you sort of believe that he could turn the corner at some point, but they're not going to turn the corner this year. So yeah, they're not. He's going to be back next year.

I think he's going to be fired this year. They would go back and take Rick Barnes and a heartbeat, I think, over the Chaka Smart experiment. They should just have Matthew McConaughey move his way down the bench over the course of the season until he's just coaching the team. I actually feel like Matthew McConaughey, just through the power of his motivation

and the talent that is assembled in Austin, he could probably be a better coach than Chaka Smart. I don't disagree with that. I think you're right. I think, yeah, that's really, what if that's all really Texas needs is just McConaughey. Does he, does he, is he tight with the basketball program? He is.

Yeah, he's on the bench sometimes. He's got this. Well, I know he's tight with football, just to know if he, yeah, he's on the bench sometimes in the basketball team. I like your, I like your analysis of Texas is essentially they will have a second half lead against Kansas and blow it and lose by five. Yeah.

And then, and then I will be like a year from now, I will be doing the exact same show we're doing now with our preview in next season. And you're like Chaka, what do you think? And I'm like, yeah, Texas will be all right. They're, they're, but I don't know. They're, we'll see. Yeah.

This is the year though. Yeah. Chaka has to show me this year or else he's gone. And then, yeah, it's the same thing. I forgot. We got, we also had to talk to SEC. My guy must. I, Arkansas baby.

Come on. They're, they, I mean, obviously it's Kentucky and Tennessee, right? But Arkansas is a good team. And Isaiah Joe, like he was injured a couple, couple of games last year. They, they weren't great last year, but I believe in must more than probably like almost every

coach in the league because he just, he does the thing with the transfers. He has a style and it works. Nevada was so good when he was there. He's very fun. He's a little corny, but he's self-aware of how corny he is. I don't, I don't think they're going to be that good, but I don't think the SEC is going to be that good.

So that could work in their favor to where they could, I think Florida is going to be all right. We said Tennessee and Kentucky are the favorite, certainly. But yeah, after that, like LSU could have a pretty good team, which like that is, that is the villain situation that I think is brewing that I don't think America is really ready for, is like, we'll wait having a juggernaut at LSU. Oh, yes.

Yeah. Like cause the thing is like Bill Self is, you know, there's, there's bad vibes of Bill Self and the FBI situation, but Bill Self's kind of earned the right. He's like an old head. We've seen him before. We're, we're familiar with him. And the same with Kay, like all these other guys, it's like,

it's a devil, you know, type situation. So you, so you kind of like don't love what he's up to, but, and, you know, you're used to it. Will Wade is the newcomer. And I think the idea of Will Wade just like setting everything on fire and you guys watch the documentary. I mean, like Sean Miller, his approach was like trying to be subtle and having fall guys and all that.

And they said many times over, Will Wade's a gangster, like he'll be on the phone straight up, talking to these people, offering money left and right. And the idea of Will Wade having a great team at LSU would, would break the college. Like it would just break college basketball. People would lose it. But like the old heads that cover college basketball

would be beside it. Pat 40 would just be in rage. Right in column after column. Like this is disgraceful what LSU has done. Digger felt to be like snapping highlighters on television. I like that. People don't talk enough about the SEC being the conference of coaches this year.

They get a lot of shot in football, but in basketball they've got our guys. They've got Buzz Williams, Tom Kreen. Please tell me, please tell me one of those two guys is going to have a decent team this year. No, the Buzz Williams have a better team than Tom Kreen. But yeah, Tom Kreen already won this year. He had the number one pick in the draft.

That's true. He should get that framed and put it behind him when he does interviews like Coach Cal does with all of his number one picks. Yeah. Yeah. So obviously they have like Coach Cal. They've got there's a shitload of great coaches in the SEC, Rick Barnes, Rick Barnes,

muscleman Frank Martin, who said that he wishes that he was a football coach, which is the best quality that you can have in a basketball coach. Yeah. They got Ben Hallens in the SEC. He went to three final fours in UCLA. He's at Mississippi State now and he's kind of forgotten about. Definitely forgotten about in the SEC.

Yeah. Nobody even remembers that he's going to be with the three straight final fours. Yeah. Yeah. All right. ACC, who's going to win it? Oh, Virginia. Virginia's going to win it.

Yeah. Oh, sorry. Over under 52 points a game for Virginia. They'll be better than they. That's a great question. They'll be better than they were last year, offensively. But yeah, they're not going to. They're there.

It's going to be the same old, same old with Virginia. But that's why they're going to win it. They're Duke is too young and too dookie. Like Duke doesn't even win the ACC anymore. Anyway, they haven't won it in 10 years. It's true. Carolina is just not good enough. I don't think Florida states the other one.

It's like basically those four. Virginia is by far the best team. So I think Virginia is going to win it. But I don't know. Virginia is just I can't get mad at Virginia because they play literally the same style as Wisconsin. Yeah, it's a little bit better.

But yeah, I mean, it's it is one of those things where you you don't think you're fat until you see like a picture of yourself. Yeah, that's when when I watch Virginia basketball, I'm like, oh, this is the team I root for. I get why people hate us. Yeah, they're there. I don't know.

I don't know really what else is like they're going to be. They're going to actually be good. And that's the other pressure. But like last year, Virginia wasn't that good by their standards. So I think there's a little delight in the idea of them not scoring a lot of points because you're like, yeah, they're not really a thread anyway.

They're going to but this year they're going to be good. They're good enough to win a national title, which would they be repeat champs if they want? They'd have to be. I guess so. I don't know. I don't know. I just want to back to back titles.

I want them to play. We had the the all time moment. I think it was against Purdue maybe last year where the over under was like 99.5. And that's like, how is this possible? And then you bet the over it's electric. Last year, as a reminder, Virginia last year opened the season.

They held Syracuse to 34 points. And Gary or John, that was Syracuse's first game. They scored 34 points. I see. I can't. I can't. I can't like joke about those because there was that the big 10 tournament game,

I think it was Wisconsin Penn State, where I think it was like 60 points total scored. Do you remember that game? I do remember that game. Yeah, that was like the who was who were the best players on Wisconsin? I'm looking it up right now. I think Wisconsin scored 32 points.

It was oh, 3633 was the final. Yeah, 3633. Yeah, that's so bad. What year is that? Like 12? 2011. 11. 2000.

Oh, my God. Taylor Battle was playing on Penn State. Is that like Jordan Taylor and John Lorre? Yeah, John Lorre, Josh Gasser, Bruzowitz. God damn it. So yeah, I can't. I recused myself from the conversation about low scoring teams.

I'm going to give a back to back title to UVA, though, if they win again. And only because I can count that for Washington, D.C. area. Oh, OK. Yeah. Title J is close enough. It's like two and a half hours, three hours away. We'll take it.

However we can get it. Yeah, yeah. One fun thing that I picked up this year is a brand new team. Dixie State, do you know where Dixie State is? I don't. But if I guessed. Connecticut.

I would. Yeah, I it feels like a Texas school. Nope. What? I know I know Texas doesn't count as Dixie, but it just feels like Texas is always the answer. It's in Utah. Oh, Dixie State is in Utah, and they're

a brand new basketball program. You got to learn their mascot, Mark. It's like Utah being called the jazz. Yeah, Utah and the jazz. Yeah, that's a great, great, great call back. Yeah, what is their mascot? Oh, the trailblazers or something. He's going to do a fox hit in like two seconds.

Yes, OK. Make sure to use this. I'm pretty big on the teams. One thing to look out for is. Brand new. I just like the idea of there being a brand new basketball team, like they just get born. Well, Tarleton State's another one.

I think they're in the same conference. Tarleton State is Billy Gillespie. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Billy Gillespie is the coach of Tarleton. Trailblazers. The trailblazers for Dixie State. Tarleton State? Did anybody else catch that?

What? That I literally fucking called it? What? The trailblazers. Yeah, you know you had that. I said trailblazers. Yeah. Yeah, as you were looking it up.

You had it. I'll be goddamn. Yeah, you get credit for that. Tarleton State. I love that. I might be a Tarleton State guy. Billy Gillespie. What a joke he is.

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Any last big things I'm thinking about? Like you want to give us a champion? I owe a champion to win it all. Coronavirus. Screw it. I'll say Gonzaga. I think Gonzaga beats a big 10 team. I just don't know which team it is.

I think Gonzaga finally does it. Our college? Yeah, that's good. Our college basketball expert, Mark Titus, coming on and picking the number one team. The number one team in the country. Fascinating. We're the best recruit in the country.

Really got on a limb there. Who's the dark horse? I'll pick a team that's unranked. Ooh. Let me see. If I had to pick an unranked team, who am I picking? I like this. Shit.

None of them. Yukon. Go Yukon. Maybe that's what's going to happen. Maybe it's like this is a weird season. This is going to be the dumbest season ever. Like games are getting canceled left and right. It is an absolute shit show.

And I feel like maybe we get the tournament. Just chaos is going to reign supreme. And it just feels like a Yukon. That's when Yukon wins. That's when Yukon is at their best is when chaos is thriving. And maybe that's what happens. It's also good for all the players that are really good in practice but can't score

in games and their fans. They're like, this would have been your year to be. You probably would have won player of the year this year. You're absolutely right. I would have been. Oh, actually, that reminds me. Before we let you go, one last question. Remind us again, who is on your AAU team?

What? No, I actually forgot. Do you want to talk about the Cavs season this year, too? And how I'm a Die Hard Cavs fan? And what is this? Whoops. Whoops. Hey, how in all seriousness, Big Cat,

how worried are you about LeBron getting six? With modern medicine and the HGH he's doing, I'm very worried. Yeah. And also stacking the teams and all that stuff. Yeah, so skirting this salary cap. Basically cheating. Yeah, with cheating, I think he could get six. He's got to do whatever.

Baby Braun, he might, Baby Braun himself, he has a resurgence year. We're big on the Baby Braun's these days because he just, every good player, he's like, that reminds me of myself. He just adopts them, yeah. D.K. Metcalf, Baby Braun. Yeah.

D.K. Metcalf beat the shit out of him, James. The other question I have, how many guys you got working on the show now? I feel like I haven't met a lot of these guys. We've got six people in the studio right now. Yeah, Jake and Billy. Billy's been looking at his phone researching obelisks for the last hour.

I only knew Jake as like the faux rovel. Yeah. That's a fake rovel. And I just, I didn't know he's a college bass one. He's a full basketball podcaster. He's got a show called Bench Mob. No, it's called Bench Mob. No, the Bench Mob.

We're Bench Mob guys. You should go on the Bench Mob podcast. Yeah, I'm buying Jake Marsh stock. Yes. We would love to have you on, Mark. Yeah. Yeah, I would love to come on. Are they treating you well, Jake?

I don't want you to get shoehorned as a... Jake, I can't fucking say that we're treating you well. I have to say I was on a lot for me. No, he's, Jake is like the perfect rising star in the college basketball and media business. He's a Syracuse grad from the journalism school. Oh, that's great. I love it.

Did play by play for Vermont for two years. You know, made his bones there. Now he's calling Jenga. And, there's some context to it. Jake, when is your contract up? When can I, when can I hire you? All right, cut his line. Ooh.

If you know anyone that needs someone to call games. Freelance. We got to get him on red. Let's put that out there into the universe. Once again, we'll say Jake is looking to be a play-by-play voice of any basketball. Oh, we should, we should, Jake. You should call a game and I'll do,

I'm trying to call some games too. I'm trying to be the color commentary. Let's do it. So let's, let's do it. You have the, you have the plugs at Fox. Let's figure it out. Yeah. Yeah, we'll get Fox to do, we'll do some like,

some big sky conference. Oh, you guys should do Dixie State versus Tarleton. I'm there. Are you going to any of these tournaments? Yeah. So next week I'll be in Maui, Maui, North Carolina. I'll fly out Friday. I'll be in Asheville all week.

We've got to get tested every day, all that kind of stuff. So it'll actually be a good tournament. It's not going to be, you know, it's not going to be the same in that Maui, not in the soft rims and, and Maui. But Carolina's in it, Indiana's in it, Texas, Providence. You guys love Ed Cooley. Yeah. I forget, Davidson's in it, UNLV.

I'm forgetting one, but yeah, it's a pretty good field. They should still, they should let the coaches still wear the Hawaiian shirts. That's the nicest part of the night. Just, I don't care that it's in North Carolina. Oh, that's what I'm wearing. All the coverage we're doing there, I'm wearing, I'm wearing my Hawaiian shirts and sunglasses

and just pretending I'm in Hawaii. Just promise me, cause this will happen within, I would say next three years, Barstow will have a, a feast week tournament. So you'll have to come to that. You'll have to. I will definitely come. Where would it be?

It'll probably be in the middle of like Ohio or something. Are we on the call? So be perfect. Yeah, no, you don't know. Jake will be on the call. No, you got to, you got to find like a- Up for a peninsula of Michigan. Yeah.

You got to find like a Caribbean, a cash-poor Caribbean country that you can like, just like, that would be excited to have you. On the island that had the fire fest. No, I think it's funnier if we do it. Yeah, we'll take over that island. We'll set up tents. I think it's funny if we find a small gym

in Indiana or Ohio and we just, we just totally treat it to like as biased as you can get. Where it's like, all right, it's the tournament is West Virginia and the worst seven teams we can find. West Virginia just gets like nine wins. And we just have them play back to back to back to back and huggy, all of a sudden you look up, it's November 24th and West Virginia is 12 and 0.

You should do it. You do it in an Indiana high school gym and then you win favor with all the Indiana people cause they just love that you're doing the Hoosier hysteria. They should do that for the tournament. Why aren't we playing a couple of games there? I think it's too small. I think it's like 10, 10 feet small.

The courts are shorter, but you know, they have enough leeway. My dad was an athlete. My dad his entire life was a high school athletic director. And I'm telling you, he's retired now, but if my dad was still an athletic director, the moment they make that announcement, my dad is getting on the phone at the school board saying,

we got to knock our gym down. Wait, are you telling me that that scene, Hoosiers was full of shit when they measured the court? Like some of the courts in Hoosiers, like some of the courts in Indiana are not actually the same length. No, no, no, it's high school to college. High school to college is different.

Okay. You're both right. Oh yeah, because it wasn't Bumper. The hoop is still 10 feet. Of course I remember the hoop being 10 feet. But the length of the court, yes. The college court is 10 feet longer than an Indiana high school court.

So Hoosiers was kind of lying to you. Yeah, it was a little bit full of shit. It was not a document. I'm going to kill you. Wait, you, you're on the side of Hoosiers is kind of overrated, right? Oh, come on. No, absolutely not.

Are you crazy? I rewatched it during quarantine and I, it hurt my, it hurt my soul. That in the program, I watched those two movies and I was like, no, not as good as I remember. No, Hoosiers is overrated in the same way Seinfeld is unfunny. And it's because every other sports movie that's come after it has tried to recreate Hoosiers.

And now when you go back and rewatch it, I like Hoosiers. I'm saying I watched it back and I was like, it might not have been like, when anyone would ask you, what's your favorite sports movie? And I was like, Hoosiers, Hoosiers, Hoosiers. Yeah. Like the Model T is not a great car in 2020 either, Dan.

Okay. We have to respect this place in history that it invented an entire fucking genre of movie, which is like the underdog, sappy. I think it's the last scene that bothered me because they like, they just didn't guard. They like didn't, it was like a righty and they just shaded them left.

You just don't like, you don't like Hickory style play. You made that clear. You don't like Virginia. You don't like Hickory playing stall ball. You wanted Hickory to shoot three and D. Shoot three. What was that movie? Where was the guy and the girl playing pick up outside

and it had the most preposterous one on one scene of all time? You guys know what I'm talking about, right? Was that, you're talking love and basketball? Yeah, love and basketball. Yeah, big catch, man, because the basketball scene in Hoosiers doesn't match up to like, they was poorly coached at the very. No, I just, I watched Hoosiers the whole time

and I was like, could you imagine, like if you could just put Steph Curry in like 1950s in Vienna, he's just like, they would actually burn him at the cross. They'd be like, well, maybe for like, well, now we're getting the hell of a shit. But yeah, they would be like, he's a witch. Yeah, yeah, the, you watch the Bob Cusy highlights

and you hear about how great of a player Bob Cusy was and you see his highlights and he like dribbles behind his back once. Yeah, and everyone just, everyone just falls on the ground. They start shaking. All right. Well, Mark, thank you. It's always been fun.

Everyone go listen to Titus and Tate, see him on Fox Sports. You also have a podcast with our friend, Charlotte Wilder. You're everywhere, dude. It's going well. I enjoy, I enjoy Fox. Fox is treating me well. We launched the, in all seriousness, I came on, what was the last time I was on here?

Right after the tournament was canceled, you guys just like basically had me on the back and said it's not your fault. Yeah. It's gonna be okay. But, so we launched the podcast right before season was, we had the season we did and I was really down on the dumps,

but everything's going well now and we're back. So it's good. Everything's going great at Fox. I'm happy. I'm living a California lifestyle. I don't see, the last thing I have to report, Dan, is the California teams are non-existent right now. Coronavirus has, I think this might be a,

this might be a journalistic, an assignment for Billy or something. Bring Billy out here to bench with a Rastillo and then find out what happened to the California teams because they're nowhere to be found. I drive around and they're nowhere. They're done. I think they're all in the sway house.

California teams. Yeah. Yeah. It's all the Tik Tokers. Like the Tik Tok houses have taken them all up, got them off the streets. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I live kind of close to the beach

and there used to be a ton of them just hanging out and skateboarding and shit. I don't know where they are. I don't know what happened to them, but COVID has done a number on them and they're gonna be found and I just, I find that interesting. That's the report from out here.

They got rounded up by a bunch of, the pizza gate people got them. Yeah. Yes. Yes. All right Titus, thanks so much, man. Happy college basketball back. Talk to you later.

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All right, let's do some segments. I'm fucking mad. I'm mad not because Wisconsin, Minnesota got canceled. Did you have it? They lost now? Oh, that's a good spin zone. Yeah, no, if they had won this would have been way worse. Great spin zone.

That's awesome. Man, imagine how disappointed you would be. Imagine how pissed off you'd be at this virus. Oh my God. But no, now I'm just mad at stupid people who are like, can't go to the conference room. It's like, dude, when you lose to Northwestern, you can't go.

They're not gonna lose two out of the last three. I just like to compromise. Also, everyone's eligible for bull games. You're still eligible, yeah. Yeah, everyone is. So people are done. I want people to start reading the fucking rules once. You'll probably, yeah, you'll play

in a decent bowl game, I'm sure. I don't care. I still don't watch more football. But I just want to congratulate you on personal growth because you're not mad at Hank for this. No, I wouldn't be mad at Hank. No, I would never be mad at Hank. Never mad at Hank.

No, I would not be mad at Hank for this. For this. Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at Hank for this. He had nothing to do with this. Jake, maybe. Jake, maybe. What'd I do? You broke the news.

Yeah. So you're on the fucking hot seat. You'd rather learn it from me than your computer. I'm just kidding. No, I appreciate that. I actually would rather learn it from you than all the people tweeting me, being very mean online. It's the holiday season.

All right, let's do a little Sunday preview. Big games, by the way, in college football. Iron Bowl, Alabama's going to fuck Auburn up. The stat I've been throwing out there, which I'll share with you right now, Nick Saban is 6-0 all time against Auburn as 14 or more point favorites. So when he has them, he has them. I love the Iowa-Nebraska game, just

because it's my favorite color game of the year. And then ND Notre Dame versus UNC is going to be awesome. Yeah, that's another good uniform game right there. Another good uniform game. So is Penn State Michigan, which is going to be the toilet bowl. Well, what's going to be funny about that is it's going to look like the real thing. It's going to look awesome.

Correct. And it's probably going to be close. Correct. So you might walk out of this game thinking whoever wins as a good team, don't fool yourself. Don't do that. Right. Right.

All right. Let's talk a little Sunday for NFL Raiders Falcons. Go. I like the Falcons. I like the Falcons. This does feel like this feels a lot. This is the week of home dogs for me. This feels like a Raiders.

If you are going to be considered for real, you've got to beat the Falcons. You've got to beat them convincingly, you know? But I like the Falcons this week a lot. Yeah, I like a lot of these dogs too. Chargers, Bills. It really actually kind of sucked not having Josh Allen in our life for a week.

Like, I missed them. I missed the Bills. I missed them big time. I liked the Bills. Yeah. Giants, Bengals, Pass. Giants are going to kill them. I don't know.

Good-ish Giants. I don't know. I'm looking at the Giants schedule real quick. This is the ultimate game that reminds me that I have no idea what's going on in the NFL. Because obviously, the Giants should kill them, right? They will. Everyone thinks they're going to win.

They will. I'm going to zag. They will. All right, Giants, Bengals, so yeah, they're going to kill them. They're going to kill them. Titans, Colts. Yeah, Billy. All right, there we go.

Titans, Colts, Titans. I don't know. Are the Colts good? Titans got momentum. Are the Colts good? Their defense is good. Their offensive line is good when they're not being called for holding.

There's no chance that the refs come out and call as many holds as they did last week. Yeah, it's impossible. It's impossible for that to happen. Good point, good point, good point. Yeah, I don't know if the Colts I just can't, like, imagine the Colts when it's a Super Bowl. I mean, they could.

We've talked about this. They could man up the Chiefs. This is the part of the season, too, where it kind of sucks when you get, like, too bad teams going against each other. And it's like, what's the point? Panthers, Vikings, like, what's the point? No point, no point whatsoever. What's the point?

Cardinals, Patriots, Hank. What's the point? Yeah. I think the Patriots are going to finish the stretch by going back and forth of, like, ooh, look at the Patriots. Ooh, they stink. So they'll win this game. Yeah, I agree with that.

That kind of deal. I also think that Belichick is really good against teams that historically have sucked. Yes. Like, I'm always going to look at the Cardinals' franchises. Oh, they'll always stink. Yeah. There's no chance that they can beat Bill Belichick at home.

Yes, yes. No, there's absolutely. I mean, the Dolphins, Jets is the next game. Dolphins, I can't stop looking at the Dolphins and being like, easy win, easy win. Yeah. They're thinking like, easy win. But they're not.

They're good. What is going to happen with Tua? What is going to happen with Tua? Like, you've got to start Fizzi here for the Revenge Game factor. Flores admitted that Tua got benched because he sucked. So now what happens if Tua sucks again? Yeah, what's the altitude in New Jersey in the Meadowlands?

Sea level. It's a swamp, right? What? So it might even be below sea level. Yes, it is sea level, though. That's where Jimmy Hoffa's body's buried. You asked for the altitude. Yeah, you're right.

Thank you. I was genuinely curious of what the Meadowlands altitude was. And you answered. So I'm going to go with, I don't care if it's Tua or if it's Fizzi, it's the Dolphins. Yeah, it's the Dolphins. That's actually a pretty good way to sum up how I feel about the Dolphins this season.

Yeah. Doesn't matter who's playing quarterback. It's the Dolphins. It's the Dolphins. It's house money for the Dolphins right now. Oh, don't say that. You've got to make the playoffs. Last year, you guys made an awkward, like, Dolphin sex

sound on every show. No, it was Dolphins getting mersex problems. Sex problems? Sex problems? Is that what sex sounds like, TJ? What kind of stuff? Who are you having sex with, Jake? You having sex with Dolphins?

No. You addicted to Dolphin fucking? There is that guy. Remember that guy? He fucked a dolphin. The dolphin killed itself. Yeah. What?

That's a real story. As heard on part of my take. You should know that. Billy, you're an animal guy. You're an animal fucker. Well, he only knows like three facts. Did the dolphin kill itself or was his blowhole just instructed for a prolonged period of time?

No, legit jumped out of the tank. They've come a long way on this podcast compared to a year. They have? No, we like the dolphins now. Yes, we do like the dolphins now. Brown's Jaguars, is Minshew back? I don't think so. This is another game.

This is so the Raiders and the Browns have a you better win and win convincingly type of games that that's the only way I'm going to start being like, OK, these are teams that are going to make the playoffs and make noise. OK, I'm looking up the Jacksonville weather forecast for this weekend. It's going to be 32 degrees and sunny in Jacksonville.

Well, 32? No, I'm just making that up. Damn. Well, no, that happens every now and then and everyone freaks out. The 10 day weather forecast tells me that on Sunday, it's going to be 73, but it's going to be rainy. So it might be fucked up weather. Yes.

If it's fucked up weather, then yes, the Browns are going to win. And I just read that like all of the Jacksonville Jaguars defensive staff, it all has cocoa. Oh, the cocoa. It just keeps fucking falling us around. All right, 49ers Rams. This is a sneaky 49ers game, right?

We put that team into the like it could happen. Was that the category? Yeah, it's like, maybe, maybe, maybe. 49ers, I'm never going to count out Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, no. And I and remember that we had this the fact from earlier this year that Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVeigh are like best friends, but they don't speak football to each other

because they're afraid that one of the other ones is going to steal their thoughts. And this is a game where where McVeigh is going to think back in his photographic memory to all the weird stuff that Kyle's done to him in the past. But Kyle lives in the future. Yeah, I was going to be like, I'm going to do some new weird shit to him that he hasn't remembered yet.

Saints Broncos, I'm excited for this game because I feel like John Always going to watch Taysom Hill and try to offer him $500 million after this. It's everything that he had wanted Tim Tebow to ever be. Taysom Hill is the version 2.0 of Tim Tebow. Yes. He's got he's better at running the football. He's a more accurate passer.

He's more Christian than him because he's a Mormon, which is like, boom, I'm super Christian. I'm even stepping up on your virginity. Yep. I think that Taysom Hill is going to he's going to make a lot of people in Denver long for the days of Tim Tebow. Yeah, I do.

I really think that John Always going to look at that and just be like, I want that. I'll give him everything, maybe kidnap him. Chiefs Box is going to be an awesome game. I have a stat for everyone who's trying to bet this game. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, first half overs are 21, four and one since last year. OK.

First half overs. I'm going to take the Bucs plus three. I'm going to take the Chiefs. Because the site I'm looking at has 90% of the public on the Chiefs. I don't know whether or not it's early. It's too early in the week. It's early in the week and everyone is remembering

what they saw last night. Correct. Yeah, I mean, it's not bad though. I feel like I've seen the Bucs win 100 games this year in the four o'clock hour. That's just what they do. They just win afternoon games. Not at night.

And then finally, Andy Reed after Thanksgiving too. Yeah, he's going to have some discomfort abdominally. Bears Packers, I don't. You said a couple days ago that the Bears are going to win this game. Now, you can't backtrack on that in a span of 40 hours. I'll get up for it.

I'll think they're going to win this game when I wake up on Sunday morning. I just, it's very sad and very apropos of the state of the Chicago Bears offense that they have released the line and we don't know who the Bears quarterback is. It could literally be Nick Foles, Mr. Biscay or Tyler Bray. And Vegas is like, they all suck.

What happened to DeShon Kaiser? I know, I saw any time your team brings in DeShon Kaiser for a workout, that's a good sign that you should just kill yourself. Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. It's bad. Everything sucks.

Don't actually do that. It's the holidays. Don't actually do that. Yeah, but that's how sad is that though? It was DeShon Kaiser. But how sad is that those three quarterbacks are like, yep, all same, all suck. Yeah, I mean, is there any like little part of the back

of your brain that's like what his castle literally look like? I'm just saying, I don't root for injuries. And that's all I'm going to say. OK. I agree with you. I also don't root for injuries. And if Shane McClellan is somewhere that wants to put on the pads, he's more than welcome to come and put on the pads.

Don't root for injuries. On the record, I do not root for injuries. I'm just saying that we have to watch the fucking Chicago Bears in prime time again. It's so painful. It's like no one wants to see it. You don't even want to see it. No, dude, I want them to play.

It's so embarrassing for me. I wish their games were at fucking three in the morning. Yeah. Honestly. I wish they would. On pay-per-view. So you have to choose to opt in to subject yourself. I wish that you would wake up on Sunday morning

and be like, oh, the Bears played already. They haven't scored. OK, cool. Bye. That's it. That's it. They're just they're such a bad, bad team, bad franchise. Fuck, man, it sucks.

They're going to win on Sunday, though. All right. Before we do guys on chicks and send you off to Thanksgiving, fuck you, your boss right now who's listening to this. So walk. So here we go. So turn it up. Walk on by.

It is Friday, November 27th. And everybody with a good family man of a boss or family woman of a boss is enjoying time with their loved ones. Not at fucking work. Yeah, if your boss is such a fucking prick, we're in the middle of a pandemic, and your fucking boss was like, hey,

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in all of 2020. And they choose to make you do that on the Friday after Thanksgiving. Yes. That's just disgraceful. Yes. You know what it is? It's un-American.

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and giving those Christmas presents. Black Friday. Black Friday. Yep. Also, being a boss is cool. Way to be good at business. What's that thing that Pope does to, like, excommunicate these mass news, threaten to excommunicate

from the AWLs? Perfect booties. Heart. Yeah, perfect booties. How about the NBA players meeting with the Pope? Yeah. Teaching them how to learn all the tricks and trades that this is what you're going to do.

You've got to go zero, dark 30. You've got to have an Instagram account. 23. Sliding the DMs on that. All right, let's finish up. We got some guys on chicks. Hey, Cat, Comment, Hunk, and William. I have been dating this guy for a couple months.

And after a date, we were hooking up in his car. Nice. I ended up blowing him, but didn't want to finish. I didn't want him to finish in my mouth. He said he was in pain because he almost came, but didn't. And I wanted no part of it. So we proceeded to self-complete in a grocery bag while I sat there silently.

Is this normal? Our blue balls of things. This guy's stuff. Yeah, jacking off into a Piggly Wiggly bag? Whom's among us has not had to do that? Yes. I wonder why he's not even driving, either, just sitting there.

I hope he was driving and was like jacking off into a Walmart bag. Wow, driving. It's an oversized condom. If you don't do it, it falls off. So yeah, you have to. Yeah. It's nice.

Would big cat fuck a turkey? Yes. That's a good question from not a chick. Billy, it is an animal. Yeah, Billy, you probably would. No, I don't think so. I got a question. This is a deep dive inside PFT's mystery's brains.

Why don't we eat turkey eggs? Are there turkey eggs? Oh, yeah. They lay eggs, and they're bigger than normal eggs. It's the perfect size for one breakfast would be one turkey egg. They taste a little gamey. So they taste like they like to let the meat talk.

I know when you make stuff up. You made that up. They have a different consistency. Yeah, you made that up. OK, that's fine. Good layers. What do you mean? They're not able to produce as much eggs.

I still want to eat turkey eggs. Hey, thick daddy. Hey, thick daddy cat, baby honk, Leroy's best friend, and Jake, longtime listener, first time concerned for my boyfriend. He recently got a new robot vacuum and continues to make obscene gestures and remarks regarding her ability to clean.

My first concern was when he named it Red Velvet, his obsession over his favorite stripper name, and continued to say, oh, you're a dirty girl, aren't you? As it started to clean up our apartment for the first time. After a couple of days of it cleaning our place, he started to take care of it and clean it every day because her suck holes are so small and cute when they'll get dogged with the smallest load.

He continuously says, oh, baby, you're so cute when you clean up that dust and you suck so well. After hearing Billy's talks about sub-adult hens and wanting to have sex with different animals, I've gained concern that my boyfriend is just as weird as him and wants to have robot sex with our vacuum. I keep a positive mind that he wouldn't want to have sex with a vacuum.

But not once has he talked this dirty to me. I don't want to break up with him over this, but I do not know how to handle his attention about how weird, uncomfortable, and honestly, a little jealous this makes me feel. It sounds like it looks a lot like a Legionnaire Stadium, in which case I completely understand the fascination. Just let the guy do what he needs to do.

What do you say, Billy? This guy is screwed because in 100 years, when robots become autonomous and start getting rights, then they're going to look back to that moment and he's going to get fucked. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. We should be super nice to every robot out there right now. They'll remember that.

They're watching. They are watching. They are reckoning right now. Shout out to the robots. By the way, I think that there's a conspiracy theory out there for us to not eat turkey eggs. Because I'm reading, I pulled up a website and it's like they have seven reasons, which

feels a little bit too much. They're laying it on thick here. Yes, 16 to 17 pounds is a turkey egg. That's a big fucking egg. So it's like too big. There's no chance. The shells are really, really hard. A bowling ball?

That's what I was going to say. Average size of a turkey. Oh wait, no, that's a turkey. Yeah, that's a full turkey. I was wrong on that. They only have 100 eggs a year, which is a third of how many chicken eggs. They also sit on their eggs a lot longer.

So it's bread for chickens to just poop their eggs out, walk away. Turkeys will fucking be territorial about their eggs. They'll sit on those motherfuckers. It's asking me like the most dangerous game. It probably tastes better because it's so hard to get them. Right, and then, let's see, Billy's right about the consistency and the weirdness of it.

It's a little different. And then there's also feed concerns. So what the turkey eats isn't cleared by the USDA. So you can eat the turkey itself, but not the egg. Like I said, this guy's laying on thick. Yeah, it sounds like this was that written by a turkey. Yes, by a big turkey. You know what it is?

They use some. Obama. No, they actually use so much to fatten the turkeys up so they get big breasts and a lot of more meat. Those sort of chemicals don't go through the cycle, and then they end up in the egg. And those chemicals aren't legal for us to eat. I actually was reading about this thing

that they use to bulk up pigs because it might be a bodybuilding agent. And that's it's illegal in all the other countries except the United States. Also meat. It's an economies thing where so turkey eggs are bigger. So it takes up more space. Like the entire operation takes up more space.

They lay obviously less eggs over the year. And then meat from a ground turkey bird is much more valuable than an extra large fried egg. Right. So to me, it just sounds like a problem of nobody's figured out how to get the eggs and make money off of it. Well, because they don't lay enough. They maybe laid 300 a year, maybe.

But they were like, hey, let's just keep making turkeys and killing those things. Now I really want to eat turkey eggs because of everything this website has told me. It sounds rare. It sounds dangerous. It sounds like it's tough to get. It sounds like they've probably got more protein in them,

Billy, because of the thickness of them, the gaminess. Ractopamine. Ractopamine. OK. Dangerous compound. Turkey eggs were on the omelets. Turkey egg omelets were on the menu of the famous Del Monaco's restaurant in New York until the late 1800s.

We should be eating turkey eggs. Wow. But Billy, you're right. Turkeys can't fuck because their breasts are too big. They have only artificial insemination. Yeah. Wow. They're built different.

They're virgins. They're little nerd birds. All right, what else we got? Sorry, I just went down a really deep hole. No, that's fascinating. This is turkey. Yeah, a turkey egg would cost like $2 or $3 a pop, which is obviously way too expensive for it.

Ostrich eggs. Yeah. Those actually bang. Catberry eggs. Yeah. All right, last one. Sub Big Kitty Hank and Mr. Under 35. My boyfriend moved in with me and my family last May.

Our bedroom is right next to the laundry room. And every time my mom goes in there to do laundry, he wants to have sex. Is it a thing for guys to want to have sex? One, when it's easy to get caught. And two, when their girlfriend's mom is around. I feel like he gets off on my mom's presence. And that's low key weird if you ask me.

I think he wants to fuck your mom. I think he wants to get caught. I know he wants to fuck your mom. Yeah, he's been watching the front page of UGIS too much. He's been liking Ted Cruz's tweets too much. There's a whole generation of young males out there that I feel like are too much into the step-father, step-daughter, step-mother, that whole environment.

Agreed, agreed, agreed. Big time agreed. All right, is that our show? That is our show. So we are going to be off on Friday. We are going to be back, as always, on Monday for Sunday, for football, week 12. And everyone have a great Thanksgiving.

Anything else? Anything else? Oh, numbers. 8, 69. 18. Happy Thanksgiving. 8, 8, 8 to all of you. I don't think that's plugged in big time.

81. 86. 81. 86. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. 72. God damn it.

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And it was a whole big thing. Anyway, if they did do that, minks would go. Is this an animal fact or a Denmark fact? You told me to research this last time. Can you still get a mink coat? Well, no, I was thinking if they did it, mink coats would be super cheap. Buy a ton of them.

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