Pardon My Take - Week 17, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders In The Playoffs, Joe Burrow MVP? Plus Playoff Seedings
Episode Date: December 30, 2024Week 17 and we start with Fastest 2 Minutes. (00:00:00-00:10:08) We then Recap Every Game From Saturday/Sunday Chargers/Patriots (00:15:05-00:22:09) Bengals/Broncos (00:22:09-00:36:08) Rams/Cardin...als (00:36:08-00:41:19) Eagles/Cowboys (00:41:19-00:51:28) Giants/Colts (00:51:28-00:58:28) Bucs/Panthers (00:58:28-01:07:08) Commanders/Falcons (01:07:08-01:18:55) Bills/Jets (01:18:55-01:33:18) Raiders/Saints (01:33:18-01:35:57) Jaguars/Titans (01:35:57-01:40:00) Dolphins/Browns (01:40:00-01:42:08) Vikings/Packers (01:42:08-02:05:28) We then do who’s back of the week and talk some college football bowl games (02:05:28-02:20:53)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
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On today's pardon my take, we have week 17 in the NFL. We're going to start with fastest two minutes. We got some big time playoff implications going on. We've got a lot of the seeds set. We also have some fun games that are
going to be set up for week 18. Some things still at stake. We're going to talk a little who's back.
We're also maybe do a little college football because we have the quarterfinals coming up
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Let's not pull a Jeffrey Tubman
We start in Cincinnati in a game with huge playoff implications
As Bo Sticks prove that the Broncos are for real
And isn't a grand illusion as he let the ball sail away
Sail away to Marvin Yankee
hat with no Brims jr. who who no cap ran up the bill scoring two touchdowns but
it was Joe Spurro that came out the victor dunking on the defense injecting
T shot Higgins who said yeah we may have been gals but now we are men and even
with the win there were questionable decisions down the stretch begging the question will since he want
to transition and remove sack Taylor Bengals keep their playoff hopes alive
30 Broncos 24 we go down to SoFi Stadium where it's Saturday Night Live with
Kyler Bill Murray and it used to be a lot better with Aaron Norm McDonald.
Tray McBridesmaid finally caught the bouquet and got out of the friend zone and into the
end zone but Pooka make them nuked and afraid as he pulled their pants down.
Marvin William Henry Harrison hasn't had as sick of inaugural season as you think he would
since you can't catch a cold the way his QB is coughing it up. And Chad Thousand Ryland dressing is usually pretty solid, but dipped around and missed an
extra point leading to a situation where the cards are driving but needed a touchdown and
a kello from the other side. Big catch Pinky Bat is still alive. I'll tell you, I'm sorry for picking you off.
Pekyler threw the ball into McBride's mouth.
Williamson, seal us a game and keep the Rams in the playoffs.
To Sunday in the Meadowlands where the windless
at home giants were taking on the Colts without their AR15.
But they did have Joe Tick-Flacco
who went over the X's and O's in prep all week as he looked like Prince Albert the way he was tossing balls to wide receiver
Fallick Pierce finding a hole in the D time and time again
Typically super bad Giants quarterback Drew Cock must have looked at his notes
But unlike the movie he never ended up getting the boos from the Giants faithful
at his notes but unlike the movie he never ended up getting the boos from the Giants faithful. McGreek Neighbors was the hero of the day as his skills didn't
peter out as he had the as he had all of the targets kabobbing and weaving
through the Colts defense on the way to the victory. The G-Men, the G-Men 45
Colts 33. We go down to Tampon bay where it's that time of the young as
Bryce is back in the flow and the Carolina
Cranfers are looking to stop the bleeding on a bad season as they spotted the Bucks in early TD and in a touching tribute
To my dear friend Jimmy Carter Dave Panama Canales turned it over in a contest some called,
It's Must Lose.
And they got boat-raced.
Jimmy was a great man who came from poverty.
And the pun is blocked.
And the pun is blocked.
LMAO, everyday I'm rustling, everyday I'm rustling, return it for a score.
The Bucks win in a blowout.
48-14.
And the first time in fastest two minutes history we go to
someone who's actually at the game max who is at Philly reporting live from
Philadelphia or to K Kwan Barkley has officially etched his name into the
prestigious 2000 Dark Club Kenny Csiklits redeemed his
performance from last week with two early touchdowns and a
24-7 halftime lead.
Not a big deal!
After an unfortunate injury, Tanner McKeegan-Bradley looked like the People's quarterback while
throwing his first touchdown pass of the year, but then AJ, what can Brown do for you?
Express shipped the Memorial ball into the stands.
After we all thought the ball was gone
AJ went to Big Dom Corleone and said someday I will call upon you to do a service for me and that day is today
As Big Don was able to retrieve the ball for AJ to give them a kick. Shout out Big Dom Eagles with 41 Cowboys 7
And now to the saddest game of the day
Western New York the Bills and Jets memes was there.
We head up to Buffalo where Josh Allen was singing, that's a mare, as he finds him in
end zone for a 30 yard pass.
The Bills weren't done as Keeon, I'm a coal man, went up over the Jets secondary to possibly
seal the MVP for Allen.
To add insult to injury, the Jets let Tyrell, shaving Private Ryan, add a 69-yard touchdown in garbage time. As for
the Jets, Aaron Rodgers looked like he was playing dodgeball out there, throwing the
ball to the other team and getting unnecessary roughness penalties. He commented after the
game, Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No, but I like it. I do
it anyway because it's sterile and I like the taste.
No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.
Thanks, memes.
Down to Jacksonville where yes, people actually paid to attend this game.
Drug Peterson needed a win in this battle between Crack Jones and Free Basin Rudolph, but none of the game rocked.
Biden, more time. Peterson won't be a job hunter quite yet. and Free Basin Rudolph, but none of this game rocked.
Biden, More Time, Peterson won't be a job hunter quite yet.
Calvin Coolidge Ridley and Brian Thomas Jefferson
had a tasteful homage to the late Jimmy Carter,
as neither went over 100.
And much like our nation's capital,
the refs need to lower the flags and let this game end.
Jaguars 20, Titans 13.
What?
We go up to Minneapolis,
where the Minnesota Vikings of Leon's sacks were on fire,
and they could really use Sam Buddy,
Donald, to continue his great season.
Jordan, I love sprinkles.
Yes, it's true.
Yes, I do.
Was anything but a cupcake,
as the Vikings took a page out of Gordon Hayward's playbook and kept looking to Addison
Josh very cool Jacobs had a nice scurricum me while Malik Heath Ledger
Almost made it a dark night for the Vikings until just in the nick of time Jefferson
Helped Minnesota take the top seed like a really tall squirrel Vikings 27 Packers 25
standing on the corner James with some kind of a
it's
was technically come on. His team is
Hey, Rick Johnson.
Please look up his maddened
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Okay boys, week 17 in the books, we are watching the commanders and Falcons.
We will update that at the end.
Uh, currently PFT, you guys are down and fighting, fighting,
down to end.
And let's just start off by saying that Jamis Winston or excuse me,
Jayden Daniels, uh, through an interception in the first half.
I know that Max wanted to see that also, Max, have you noticed that we
start every NFL Sunday recap by singing the Eagles?
Isn't that a little bit of a bias towards Philadelphia by this podcast?
Hmm.
Fucking baby.
There's Cowboys fans out there.
You came out hot right there.
Max hasn't said anything, but you know he's thinking it.
He's thinking it.
No, I'm on edge because we're down 17-7 and we don't look good.
So I'm taking it out on Max.
I apologize, Max.
So we will update because this game actually has a ton of implications, not only for the
commanders but also for the Seahawks and the Rams. The Seahawks are hoping the Falcons win so they have a shot in week
18. I guess it has some implications for my pinky as well but week 17 in the
books and we will recap this game. We also should say this is our first podcast
that we've ever done without Jimmy Carter alive. So RIP Jimmy Carter.
Do you think it was the Vax that got him?
I don't know. I think it was probably watching the Titans Jaguars. I was actually thinking about that.
Imagine like this early slate. There was actually some fun games out of nowhere. Like the Giants
game was ridiculous out of nowhere. But to have that be your last, uh, you know, he died, I think he died exactly at 3 40 PM.
So he might not have even seen the Giants win a home game this year. Um,
but to have that be your last NFL Sunday, that's brutal. Like,
I feel bad for Jimmy. He did. He went to,
he actually went too young because he should have made it to the Superbowl.
Yeah, that would have been nice. Uh,
I was addicted to actually reading the tributes from all the various
different like pop culture websites.
So like if you, if you ran an account that had like a special logo next to it
on Twitter, there was a mandate that you had to post something.
So I saw, I saw tributes from trap ratchet TV, film discussion, pop crave.
Here's my favorite Jimmy Carter stat. He outlived one of his
obituary writers. I saw that. How fucking amazing is that? They wrote the obituary,
I think in 2017. And he just kept going as, as our good friend, big T put it, like Jimmy
just needed to stop building houses. Yeah. So they put them in hospice when he was still
working on houses and he just got down off the roof and was like, Oh, maybe I just should have retired a long time ago and stopped,
you know, climbing up 20 feet in the air every day and nailing ceiling tiles down in the
hot sun.
He, uh, there's also a chance he might not be dead because he was famously just not waking
up some days.
So like if tomorrow they're like, Hey, uh, our bad Jimmy Carter actually
still alive. I wouldn't be totally shocked.
No, it could happen. It could happen. Another great stat about Jimmy.
This is from Jeremy Frank.
He said that a Babe Ruth hit more home runs and Jimmy Carter's lifetime than any
currently active player. Right now.
Stanton is in the lead with 429.
Jimmy Carter saw famously saw Babe Ruth and Hawk Tua.
Yeah, and there's really nothing that we
can say about the man that hasn't already been covered
by my friend, Cessa, earlier, when he was just like,
Jimmy Carter dead, not a great president.
Oh, it's cool, though, when someone
dies when they're 100, because it's just free rein
to make jokes.
Like, 100 is way too old. Like,
dude, you, that's just, it was way too, way long past your expiration, dude.
Yeah. You went to like four over times in Buffalo Wild Wings.
You don't really want to be a hundred years old. Nobody,
nobody wants to be a hundred. All your friends are gone.
You don't understand anything. Um,
I guess you get some sweet discounts on early dinners though,
which is pretty good. But besides that, there's not, not a whole lot going on.
Yeah. Yeah. RIP Jimmy. RIP Jimmy. He was a real one. Yeah.
And he was an AWL. So one less listen for this episode.
So someone please step up and listen twice for Jimmy. All right,
let's get into games. So just to set the stage, Hank is, uh,
living his Ben Mince life right now.
He's traveling across country to new Orleans to see his favorite band on New
Years. And he's got like flight issues.
And then he just texted us and said that his bag is being shipped to Germany.
So I don't know when he'll join us. When he does,
he will have to do his boomer in monotone and also answer
some questions about the Patriots. But let's start with that game. Chargers 40, Patriots
7.
Just real quick, Jimmy Carter got shipped to Germany and he still did his job.
That's true. That's true. Well, he didn't do his job today listening to this podcast.
It's true.
Yeah. Chargers 40, Patriots 7, the Los Angeles Chargers are in the playoffs.
Insane turnaround by Jim Harbaugh, the king of turnarounds.
These are Jim Harbaugh. So his last three jobs, he took over the San Francisco 49ers in 2011.
The year before he took them over, they were 6-10 missed the playoffs.
They went 13-3 lost in the NFC championship game. In 2015, he took over Michigan the year before Brady Hoke,
who just didn't wear a headset on the sideline,
looked like the dumbest piece of shit ever. Michigan went five and seven.
He took over the team. They went 10 and three this year.
He takes over the chargers who were a dumpster fire.
Remember when the chargers lost last year by like 70 to the Raiders,
chargers were five and 12 last year. They're 10 and six this year.
They got rid of a bunch of their really good players. Jim Harbaugh brings the
culture. He brings a change. And all of this is to be said without even noting
his like most insane turnaround, which took two years,
but Stanford football that he made like a real program in two years time.
So he that that's what he does. And the Chargers are back in the playoffs and they're a functional team. years, but Stanford football that he made like a real program in two years time.
So he that's what he does. And the chargers are back in the playoffs and they're a functional
team. And I know it makes Hank so mad that the chargers, if they can win next week and
the Steelers lose, could be playing the Texans and which is a very winnable game for this
chargers team.
Yeah. So I was thinking about Jim Harbaugh and his turnarounds and the thought occurred
to me that, that some NFL coaches might not really, you know, they say they care about winning
and they want to win, but Jim Harbaugh needs to win.
He has to win.
If he doesn't win, then he might as well be dead.
Like that's Jim Harbaugh's reason for waking up in the morning is to like win every single
encounter that he has.
He's addicted.
He's some people say like I'm addicted to winning.
He's actually. He's some people say like I'm addicted to winning. Uh, he's actually addicted to winning
Yeah, if you took winning away from him, he would he would go through withdrawals
You need to lock me in a padded cell and you remember when we were with him for
Training camp and he kind of gave us that look we were like, oh how you guys gonna be this year?
He's like kind of like, you know, we're going through some things. We're changing over the roster
There's a lot of young players that have to buddy
He like gave that look like,
I wouldn't bet against Jim Harbaugh. Like I'm going to,
I'm going to do something here. And they did in like Lad McConkie,
outside of Malik neighbors who will get to and Brian Thomas, he,
Lad McConkie was the eighth receiver picked in the draft.
He's the third best receiver so far from that draft. He was insane.
He went,
he's top 15 in receptions, yards and touchdowns in the whole league, not just rookies. And it's like everything in JK Dobbins got healthy.
It feels like the Chargers, like I don't,
they're not going to win the super bowl, but they could make some noise.
Because I feel like we've been since to a lifetime of every time lad,
McConkey has a good game, just getting incessant texts from Jerry O'Connell.
Just being like, why, why didn't he do that in week 16?
Yeah.
Where was this in week 16?
Just a heads up guys.
I drafted in a moment in week 16.
Sorry.
Yeah.
We're just going to be like updated on his everything with his life via those texts.
But yeah, the, uh, the chargers look, look good.
They dominated the Patriots. Wasn't really close.
Got a little stone smart action going on and JK Dobbins is back.
Yeah. And that's huge. Massive. Yeah. I mean,
depending on, on the way the, the postseason schedule shakes out, um, they might,
they might win a game. Who knows?
I wouldn't play the Texans. Yeah,
they're playing better football than the Texans right now. I don't know if
Playing the Ravens
That would be very difficult because the Ravens look
unstoppable at this, you know in December, but yeah
I mean if they play the Texans and then you know if they if they if it breaks out and they play the Texans
Then they go maybe play the Chiefs hard to beat a team three times. That's true
They're gonna lose the Chiefs, Hard to beat a team three times. That's true.
They're gonna lose the Chiefs,
but it's still, I'll say all week,
it's hard to beat a team three times
and then the Chiefs will make it look really easy.
It's one of my favorite things to say.
I don't think that it's true.
No, it's not.
Actually, no, let's not look it up.
No, I think we did look it up
and it was proven not to be true.
Yeah, I don't wanna know if it's not true,
but it's good to say.
I mean, there's a lot of tape out there
for Harbaugh to study now. I don't know. Weirder things have happened, but I guess if he goes
up against his brother, then that adds up a whole new dynamic to it. Like the parents
will probably be at that game and he'll need to win that even more. You never know. You
never know. Obviously the Ravens are a much better team than the Chargers, but yeah, great,
great turnaround. And it's crazy because with the Chargers, you know exactly what they need to add this offseason.
It's very clear that this was not
going to be a one-year turnaround,
but getting to the playoffs in year one.
That's why whenever anybody says it'll take you five years
to fully rebuild a football team, we're full of shit.
Bullshit.
That's somebody that wants to give themselves a five-year
runway to suck ass.
Well, it also, dischargers, uh,
turnaround if you want to call it that, cause it's there,
they did get rid of a lot of players and they've, they've had to like get young,
but it was all, I mean,
it was Justin Herbert and you needed a coach who was going to bring the most out
of Justin Herbert who, you know,
it's not like he was playing bad before Jim Harbaugh showed up,
but he wasn't playing to his like full potential. And Jim Harbaugh is just, I think if you just are around him enough, you'll just have confidence
to be great at your job.
When he told us about SpongeBob, he's like, I respect SpongeBob.
He's a hero of mine.
He just does his job every day.
Jim Harbaugh, if you just put him in any setting, everyone's going to work harder and get the
most out of, they're going to be the most efficient they could be.
I think he reminds everybody of how much they cared about winning when they were in middle school.
Yeah.
That's what I think that is. He never, he never got past that. Like he is a sore loser from day one.
And all the guys in the NFL at some point had that same thing in them.
A lot of them still do, but like some, you know, it's a profession. They go to work, they grind, whatever.
But like being around Harbaugh, you're like, oh yeah, Oh yeah, I only care about showing my teacher how fast I am.
It's very funny to think now of like,
Jim Harbaugh losing and going into the locker room
and like having to take a moment in his office
where he just like cries and like, you know,
like is like an eight year old, he's crying
and he's like punching things.
And he's like, why didn't I, why didn't we win?
It's like, well, you can't win every time. Like, no,
that's not right. I want to lose. It's not fair. Yeah. Um, all right.
So we do have questions for Hank that we'll save when he gets on because I feel
like Gerard Mayo, like he's gotta be fired, right? They were,
it goes back. It goes back to what we talked about the other week,
which is,
I don't think that craft wants to fire him because then that would be Kraft admitting that he made a mistake by hiring him in the first place
And he looks at the the Patriots organization
His legacy is being like this very classy place where you know
They he thinks of himself like the Steelers where it's like we don't fire coaches willy-nilly in New England
but if you're I mean you're gonna make the same mistake the Bears just made where it's like keeping a bad head coach around for a young quarterback is not a good
thing. I mean, the Pagers did end up kind of winning the weekend because they vaulted
into the number one seed, which was, we'll get to with the Giants game, but yeah, we'll
ask Hank what he wants. So the next game, which was awesome, Bengals 30, Broncos 24, overtime thriller. We deserve this game.
The Bengals stay alive. The Bengals still need help. They need the Broncos and the
Dolphins to lose in week 18 and they need to win. But the Bengals who were I
think four and eight at one point are alive, still have a playoff shot in week
18 next Sunday. And this was a crazy game because it was basically a microcosm of the Bengals
whole season where their defense failed them at crazy times.
Their kicking failed them.
Their coach kind of failed them and Joe burrow just kept on dragging them out of
the mud over and over. He won this game three times.
He won this game in regulation.
He won this game in overtime and then he won it for real in overtime after they got the
ball back after the missed kick. He, it was insane to watch and Joe burrow is, I know
he's not going to win MVP, but I think he should absolutely be considered because what
he's done, I was looking it up PFT. So Joe burrow is going to finish. I think he has
42 touchdown passes.
Uh, right now he leads the league in touchdown passes and, and, and yards.
There's no quarterback to throw. There's only one quarterback, sorry,
to throw 45 or more touchdowns and not win the MVP.
And that was drew breeze in 2011.
And the only reason he didn't win it is cause Aaron Rogers threw 45 and he won
the MVP. So if he throws three touchdown passes in week 18,
it's going to be unprecedented that a quarterback had the season he had and
didn't end up winning the MVP and his team is to blame,
but you could make the argument Lamar and Josh have been incredible. And like,
I hope, I selfishly hope Josh wins, but, uh, I,
like there's no wrong choice. Saquon also 2000 yards.
Joe burrow has been doing this on a team where like he has no margin for error
and he has to be this great week in and week out and no one's going to bail him
out. I'm just going to say it. Joe burrow should be the MVP. Yeah.
I said two months ago, I should have bet it this thing. I don't see it.
I didn't bet it when I told everyone to bet it. Like, I,
I think regardless of if they make the playoffs or not, Joe Burrow should be the
MVP.
He's been the best player and that's, I know that's not what the award has become.
But it should be like what, who's to say what the award is.
The award is what it says that it is originally, which is the best player, the most valuable
player in the NFL.
Yeah.
And you can't get like, how many wins do you think the Bengals would have if
they had who's like the most perfectly average Dak?
If the Bengals had Dak Prescott.
Cooper Rush.
How many?
No, not Cooper.
He's too good.
If they had Dak Prescott, how many wins do you think they'd have this season?
They would, they would not be playing for a playoff spot in week 18.
I think they would have lost that game to the Cowboys.
Yeah.
Yeah. Dak would have thrown it to the, he would have gotten confused. He would the Cowboys. Yeah. Yeah, Dak would have thrown it to the Cowboys.
He would have gotten confused.
He would have thrown it to the Cowboys.
He would have thrown it to the Cowboys.
Yeah, they would have definitely lost that game
to the Cowboys.
And so this was the third game, or excuse me, eighth game
with three touchdowns and 250 yards in a row?
In a row.
That's fucking crazy.
But here's the crazy, here's even better with that, PFT.
He's now done it 10 times this year.
There's only four quarterbacks that have ever done that 10 times, 250 yards,
three touchdowns in a game, 10, 10 times in a year. So 10 games, they did that.
The three others are 2007 Tom Brady MVP,
2013 Peyton Manning MVP, 2018 Patrick Holmes MVP.
So again, another unprecedented, if Joe Burrow doesn't win the MVP, 2018 Patrick Holmes MVP. So again, another unprecedented, if Joe Burrow doesn't win the MVP,
all these other guys that had done the exact same thing he did,
they were just on better teams. They won the MVP. Yeah.
All his numbers are MVP. His defense has kept it. Like if, if,
if the Cincinnati Bengals had,
if they had won one of those games against the Ravens and had beaten the Patriots week one, they would have what? Uh, 10 wins now.
So they'd be 10 and six going into, and they would be in the playoffs.
Would it even be a debate? Like he'd be the MVP?
No. And regardless of if they make the playoffs or not,
I do think he should be the MVP at this point.
Yeah. And though it goes against my Lamar Jackson future. I don't care.
I'm willing to stand up and say like, you can, you can take it.
I've been lucky enough. Joe burrow.
He's done everything that you want him to do. And it's,
I don't want this to be looked at.
It's going to be a wasted season if they don't make the playoffs.
And there's still a pretty good chance that they don't make the playoffs.
Oh, I'd say high chance.
It would be, it would be the most wasted season.
I think of all, or up there.
Because Calvin Johnson, he had 2,000 yards one time with the Lions.
I think they won three or four games that season.
That was a pretty wasted year.
Actually, just Calvin and Barry Sanders, both of them.
And the Chargers.
The Chargers here, where they were number one in offense, number one in defense,
and last in special teams in the playoffs.
Max Homan, the Ryder Cup.
Yeah.
Wasted season.
Incredible season.
Incredibly in the Civil War.
Crazy, he put up wilt numbers.
Wild numbers.
Tyrese Maxey this year.
Yeah.
Jared McCain in November.
Yeah.
I brought, I don't want to get into, you know, this show we don't do media narratives for
awards, right?
Like, we never push a certain narrative one way or the other.
No we go by the show.
We go by the tape.
I wrote something down, I'm not even going to read it.
Can you hold it up to the screen, I'll read it?
Here, you know what, I'll text it to Max, Max should have to read it.
Okay.
Max will read it, and Ravens fans. This is Max Delente.
He's the one who's reading this. Um, all right.
Say something nice about the Broncos,
even though they kind of suck and I actually like weirdly want the Broncos to
get in the playoffs so I can bet everything on the bills against the Broncos.
Uh, Bo Nicks throws the fuck out of the football. When he throws the deep ball,
he throws the fuck out of it.
And I respect that.
Yeah, that's true.
All right, Max say this.
This is Max Solente saying it by the way.
Max Solente here.
It's getting hot.
The it's funny watching because we obviously were, uh, we were kind of in the
thick of the Heisman race, not having any wager and watching from afar.
People are really angry about Josh Lamar Joe.
Like it's crazy.
Like I Ryan Clark, I think his brain is broken.
He's just, he's just finding random people online and quote tweeting all of
them to say anything about Lamar.
It's like, dude, everyone, everyone knows Lamar is incredible.
He's having an incredible season.
He's having such an incredible season. Max has the stat for it.
Yeah, here's the stat. Lamar against the Bengals twice, the Bucs once, and the Giants,
which are three of the worst defenses in the NFL,
have 18 touchdowns and zero interceptions.
Whoa.
I don't like that stat. I think that's...
Oh, so he's not supposed to play good against bad teams.
Yeah, that's a crazy sad Max. Why would you say that? Oh also max
Maybe maybe their defenses are so bad because they have to incorporate the stats like what Lamar did to them
Yeah, true that has a part in it. Yeah
Yeah, and maybe and maybe if like a running back breaks the single-season rushing record, they should be considered for MVP, too
Oh in an extra game.
And 50 less carries?
Interesting.
OJ did that in no less than 14 games.
Yeah, Eric Dickerson, 16 games for Eric Dickerson.
So one extra game.
Yeah, I don't know what to make.
The Broncos, nice season.
I still think they'll probably make the playoffs although I
Kind of I kind of feel like the Chiefs might win that game just out of like
Here's here's one thing that that I makes no sense to me
People being like the Chiefs don't want the Bengals in the playoffs
That makes no sense to me for this reason. If the Bengals were in the playoffs,
they would be the seven seed and the Bills would be the two seed. If the, if the Chiefs
had to play the Bengals, that would mean the Bengals beat the Bills. If you ask the Chiefs,
who would you rather play the Bills or the Bengals? It's definitely the Bengals. Their
defense has been so bad all year. The Bills beat the Chiefs.
I know that this burrowhead thing, which by the way,
is not even real because I think the Chiefs have beaten them
the last three times they've played.
If you're a Chiefs fan, I think most Chiefs fans probably
think this.
Go ahead, let the Bengals in.
Because if they somehow upset the Bills,
that's an easier path.
Yeah, a million percent. They would much rather play that's, that's an easier path. Yeah. A million percent.
They would much rather play that defense than play against the bills.
And if, if you are,
if you want like a team that will give the chiefs a puzzlingly good game,
and it'll come down to like the last five minutes and the chiefs will do
something that will piss everybody off and win, then yeah, the Bengals,
that would be the matchup that you're pointing out right there. Yeah.
So in the last week of the season, we got maybe the Bengals, that would be the matchup that you're pointing at right there. Yeah.
So in the last week of the season, we got maybe Carson Wentz, although I heard that
that Mahomes is, is thinking that he might start.
I don't know, because it's going to be a lot of time off for them.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
It's 25 days.
I don't, I don't disagree with the fact that Andy Reed wants to start Mahomes.
I don't think he should play the whole game.
I think you're probably going to get like a quarter if they're up by like two scores or a half of my
homes and then it'll be Carson Wentz time. And Carson Wentz, all I know for a fact is that he
will do something that will piss everybody off with the way that impacts the playoff race.
That probably going to be a tie. If you put Carson, if he starts that game, plays the whole game,
it'll probably be a tie. Everyone's going to get confused. And then something's going to happen where you're going to be like,
God damn it. That sucks that Carson went and started that game.
Yes, agreed. And also, I don't know if you want to start Patrick from
home's against a Broncos defense, like Zach Allen had three and a half sacks
on Joe Borough got sacked seven times on, on Saturday. Like, you don't, I, I get
25 days is a lot of days. So memes,
you just sent this, the chiefs are three and oh against the, uh,
Bengals in the last three. Like it's yeah, they play them tough,
but again, the bills are more complete team than the Bengals. If you,
if you're in a must win game in week 18 and you need help,
something went wrong during that season that makes you not as scary of a team.
I don't think you want to play Josh Allen or Joe Burrow in the playoffs. But if you have the choice, you're gonna take the Cincinnati Bengals.
Yeah, it's not really that close. And I get it, like you would maybe have to play
the Bengals and then also the Ravens, where in another way you'd maybe have to
play the Char... I get it, but I'm just saying, like, I don't think the Chiefs
as a franchise are scared of anyone
at this point.
Like it's just not, that's just not how they operate.
No, they just win games.
They shouldn't be afraid of anybody.
Yeah, they just win games.
Okay.
So yeah, I don't, the, the Bonyx drive to tie the game was sick.
That was like 89 yards and 70 seconds.
But the Broncos like they're limping in right now.
And it's not like they're bad.
It's just they've had to play a couple teams
that are better than them.
And they've kind of been exposed for that.
I also think the Broncos are kind of irritating
for the casual fan to watch
because they cycle their running backs around
so confusingly.
Yeah.
Like you have no idea
who's going to be getting touches in the red zone. No idea who's going to be getting touches on third down. It's,
it's just like hard to figure them out. Say it's like their anonymous crush defense.
Yeah. Like thrive on just change inner being interchangeable. Also, I love that Zach Taylor
was like, yeah, chase Brown got hurt. So we had to abandon our plan. It's like, uh, you
could have just stuck with the plan, dude,
like totally botched that where he scored on the next play and didn't even make the Broncos use
their last time out. That's the other thing that, that ending sequence right there where Chase Brown
did the right thing. He went down to like what the two yard line took himself down. He got injured
doing the right thing. Like if he kept on going, he wouldn't have gotten injured. That's what I'm
saying. So he, he tries to do the right thing, goes down at like the one or the two
to kill the clock, let them in with a field goal if they want or probably the smarter thing would
be run the football, let them burn a timeout and then try to score a touchdown afterwards.
So he tries to do the right thing and then they just go ahead and score on the next play anyways
and then the game goes to overtime and he's injured and he's watching. He's like, why the fuck did I did that?
Like it makes no sense.
So yeah, Zach Taylor.
I don't know.
Do you think Zach Taylor is he safe?
How safe is Zach?
I think he's safe.
I mean, the Bengals have to pay T Higgins.
I don't know how much he's gonna get paid a lot of money.
But if that was T Higgins last game home game in Cincinnati
what a way to go out because he had three touchdowns and like just absolutely abused Riley Moss and
I
Like you got it
This is the Bengals are I feel bad for Bengals fans because this is just you you have a franchise quarterback
Who's playing MVP level who's ascended to a different level, you have the best wide receiver in the game,
and you have a cheap owner that might not pay
for an insane weapon in T Higgins,
and this season is like,
you just can't waste seasons like this.
And they did, they're just cheap ownership, and it sucks.
Yeah, so you know what pisses me off
is that it's not public information
to find NFL coaches
salaries.
Yeah, should be listed.
I know it's just like, it's not part of the salary cap.
So the teams don't have to list it for any like competitive reason.
And why would a private business owner like list how much they're paying somebody if they
don't have to, but that's bullshit.
Fuck that.
We should not.
I want to know how much everybody's getting paid because that that way when they do something
stupid, you can be like, Oh, you get,
you get paid $17 million a season to fuck up the end of the fourth quarter.
And I do it for free. Um, so I, I don't know what his extension is right now,
but I think he, I'm reading that he, he makes four and a half million per year.
So depending on how many more, not that much.
No, that's the low, that's probably the lowest of any NFL head coach.
Like that's about the bare minimum,
which shows the cheap ownership.
And it also means that like,
if he's got a couple more years left,
they're probably not going to want to fire him
because then you have to pay him.
Yeah, yeah.
I think Andy Reid makes 20 million,
which is actually a bargain.
Yeah.
Like when you think about it.
Okay.
Rams 13, Cardinals 9.
The Rams are
possibly in without having to play Week 18.
We're still waiting for the Commanders, Falcons
game to end.
But obviously a big win. They needed this win.
They are...
I have a couple
statements that might bite me
in the ass in a couple
weeks.
The first one is I'm not scared of the Rams.
Even though I have my pinky on the line, I'm not scared of the Rams.
I think their offense is like broken.
Their running game's not.
Their running game's good, but they are now 11 straight games without scoring in the first
quarter.
Three out of the last four games, that obviously the Bills game was insane. Three out of the last four games. Um, I think they've scored like, I don't
know, like 13 points a game and Cooper cup has been invisible in three out of
the last four games or four out of the last five games. Sorry. Taking out the
Bills game. He's caught seven balls for 70 yards in, in four of the last five
games. I don't, they just, they, they start slow. Their defense is good.
Their defense made some big plays against the Cardinals down the stretch.
I just don't think they're a complete team that can win the Superbowl.
So I'm doubling down.
I think that might be mostly on Matt Stafford though.
Matt Stafford hasn't played well in like the last month. So yeah,
Cooper Cubs been kind of invisible.
The coup is still manages to put up some stats, but Matt Stafford hasn't, when was the last time he threw
for even 200 yards? Well, he definitely did against the Bills. That you got to take out the Bills
game because remember the Bills game was just an insane up and down shootout big 12 game. But yeah,
he hasn't been that good since like November. So I am, I'm not afraid of the Rams in the same way
that I'd be afraid of other teams.
Like the Eagles are,
are like a way more physical team and they'll beat the fuck out of you. Um,
I would be afraid of what Sean McPhee is capable of in the playoffs.
I'd agree with that. I just,
and I think when he knows that he might have like an undermatched team and that
he has to do weird shit, that's what I'm afraid of.
And this also comes down to the seating, how it's going to most likely work out.
Um, you know,
like he's going to be kind of stuffed with the receipts because the Vikings or
the lions are going to be seated as a wild card,
but they're going to be better than whoever wins the South and whoever wins the
West. Right. Exactly. And same with, you know, the Packers you throw in there as
well. Oh, big touchdown, not that hurts. Chris Rodriguez Jr. the the commanders take the
lead 20 to 17. 13 minutes in the fourth quarter. But yeah I just again this is going to probably
bite me in the ass. The other statements coming later that's really going to bite me in the ass.
I'll just I'll give a preview right now. I'm not worried about the Packers at all.
Okay. Well then beat them next week. How about that? These two statements are going to hurt
me. Yeah. These two statements are going to hurt me. Say that, say that after next week,
please. Cause I need you to beat the Packers. I need, I need, we're not going to beat the
Packers. We're not going to, we will, the bears will be lucky to beat the Packers. I need, I need this. We're not going to beat the Packers, PFT. We're not going to. I need to, we will.
The Bears will be lucky to field a team next week.
Half the guys are probably going to be in Cancun
by the time kickoff comes around.
Harbaugh would be disgusted.
He would spit on you for this attitude.
Listen, I would, I want to spit on myself.
Pause.
Cardinals, I, I just can't quit.
I said it, I think I think I said on Friday I was like
I'm or maybe it was last Monday where I was like Kyler Murray or like I don't
know how many more years I can do this and then he was actually incredible
like he played made some big-time plays except for throwing an absolute bullet
off Trey McBride's face for the interception which was very funny and
Trey McBride shout out got it a touchdown. 98th catch of the season was his first touchdown reception.
The only, the second longest was Keyshawn in 2001.
He had 92 before he caught the touchdown pass.
But yeah, I don't, Kyler Murray is like,
there's weeks where I'm just like,
I don't want to watch this guy anymore.
And then I'm like, yeah,
I actually could sell myself on him being the guy. So I don't,
I don't know what I'm just confused about Kyler at all times.
They were trying so hard to get that ball to trade McBride too. They did it.
Like they ran like four or five plays, just try that was their Superbowl was
having trade McBride score touchdown pass. And yeah, they tried to go back.
That pass was very funny at the end. Kyler. I don't know, because when he's playing at his best,
you can't really contain him.
And he looks like he's a little magical guy.
But then you've gotten so much more of the bad Kyler
as the season went on.
Maybe Kyler was the one that he needs to absorb the Cliff
Kingsbury stats.
Yeah, because he does.
He fates.
That team fated.
And they should have won that game against the Rams and the Rams just held on and so
See, I don't know. I don't know that that Ganon safe either.
Pew pew pew pew. He didn't do enough fuck shit. He had the one where he went for it on fourth and 10. I appreciated that but it was not enough fuck shit for us to give him immunity for life.
that, but it was not enough fuck shit for us to give him immunity for life.
Yeah. He, his game plan was just trade McBride. That's what he worked on. I think all week he just scheme plays for him. Yeah. Uh, okay.
Let's go to Sunday. Uh, Eagles 41 Cowboys seven.
Our guy Max was there. We got to hear everything about it. Also shout out pug.
He was right about Tanner McKee three for four, two touchdowns. Tanner McKee is
electric. He might be the future and the Eagles win the NFC
East continuing the streak 2020 consecutive season that we
haven't had a repeat winner in the NFC East. Max you were
there. What was it like? You got to you got to meet Nick
Sirianni. I didn't meet Nick Sirianni. Great guy. Great Python. Never
said a bad word about him. I love Nick Sirianni.
Yeah, okay.
I'm totally not.
Nick Sirianni two weeks ago. I did not. That's true. It was it.
It was a quick intro. It was a quick intro. I thanked him for
thanked him for his service. He's now the first Eagles coach with two 13 win seasons. Very impressive. One of
the most winning coaches in the NFL right now. That's a fact,
kind of one of whatever. Nick Sirianni, my guy.
What service did you thank him for?
Being a good football coach.
Okay.
And, and you got in big, big Dom, big Dom, you're with big Dom.
Who's our favorite.
He was, uh, he gave the best.
He gave you a game ball.
Yeah.
Big Dom gave me a game ball.
It was a wild, it was a wild day from start to finish. He brought me out onto the field.
I watched all the guys go out for warmups, do their whatever. Another one of Big Dom's friends
was just FaceTime with Pete Davidson and Big Dom brings his friend over and he's like,
yo Pete, meet my friend. And then he just showed me the phone and it was just Pete Davidson and Big Dom brings his friend over and he's like, yo, Pete, meet my friend.
And then he just showed me the phone and it was just Pete Davidson.
I was like, what's up?
That's how the day started.
And then he gave me the sickest seats ever.
50, 50 yard line, first row.
Eagles go up big in the fourth quarter.
Then he just starts acting like Santa
Claus. He comes over, he gives me, he gives me a game ball. He goes to my mom, he gives
my mom a, like a team issued beanie. It was great. It was an unbelievable day. The Eagles
beat the shit out of the Cowboys and Big Dom was just the best as you could have.
He got a lot of FaceTime today too. Big Dom was all over the screen after, after AJ Brown, uh, through Tanner
McKee, his first touchdown pass into the stands, the camera, like immediately
cut the big, big Dom and AJ cause AJ was like, I'll give him my jersey.
I'll give him my jersey.
Big Dom's like, I got this.
I'm going to take care of this guy.
Don't worry about it.
So Max, as fate would have it, my aunt was actually at the game sitting next
to the guy that caught that ball
From AJ Brown. Yeah, and so the team security came up to him
It was like Big Dom's gonna take care of you
We need that ball back, but Big Dom says he's gonna make it good and the kid was like, yeah sure. No problem
I trust Big Dom. Yeah. No, I mean that we
Revelled whatever the losers like that is a situation that you have.
You should give the ball back.
I think.
Yeah, it's like a key.
It's exactly the chances of Tanner McKee going on to be this like, whoa, sorry,
sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry,
sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry,
sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry,
sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, a factory, but Big Dom is the best. That was awesome that he, you know, hooked you guys up, you and your parents. And so, uh, I, I like big Dom's one of those guys. Like,
I, when I grew up, I want to be big Dom. I know that makes no sense cause I'm
about to be 40, but I do, I do want to be big Dom when I grow up.
Yeah. Max, you know how you say that you'd prefer if Jayden Daniels was not in the
division? I would prefer it if big Dom wasn't in the division. Like he's,
I love that.
Hey, that's awesome.
That rocks.
He's a problem in the division.
Yeah, he is.
He has put them on any other team.
Did you, did you, Max, did you see Jerry Jones, uh, went on his radio show after
and he said that an Eagles fan went up to him and said, keep doing the job
you're doing this year.
And he was not happy.
I love that.
I mean, the, the, the Cowboys, I should have known because I was like, Ooh,
maybe the Cowboys are me frisky here. The Eagles are Cooper rush kryptonite.
Uh, he is, he's played the Eagles three times.
He has 373 yards total against the Eagles in three games,
full starts, two touchdowns, five interceptions. This game was a laffer.
It wasn't even like you guys were pick sixes and Kenny Pickett got hurt.
It still didn't matter.
There was there was a little bit of a hairy moment there in the first first
quarter. I mean, yeah, it started off with a pick six.
But then, you know, we stalled, we were getting out.
I think at one point the Cowboys had like
150 yards to our like 14. So it was like, it wasn't from start to finish, but we picked
it. We picked it up and Saquon Saquon is so fun.
Yeah. Yeah. He had a great game and, uh, can he pick it actually looked pretty good when
he was in, I think he broke his ribs last week. And so they said he had a pain killing injection shot and then he took another shot to the
ribs. So I don't know. I don't know how long he's going to be out but you should get Jalen
back next week, right?
Well, he's going to sit. They don't have nothing to play for. Yeah. They got the two-seater
wrapped up.
Although the question is, do you play Saquon next week?
I would say no yards. He's 101 yards from the record.
I also say no.
But if I had to guess, I think if I had to guess, I think that they
I think they will play him and I actually I'm not happy about it.
They should have kept them in longer this week.
I know that doesn't make any sense because like snaps or snaps.
But once you're already playing a game, I don't know. I, I, my guess is they play him and give him like 10 carries and
see if he can break one. Yeah.
That feels like what they're going to do. Yeah.
Like I don't want him to play at all. Like if he gets hurt that,
and don't say in the playoffs, don't say that. I mean, that's what,
that's the whole, that's the,'s the whole that's a that's the whole conversation.
That's the only thing you can say.
The only reason I wish I don't want to play.
Only reason I wish they'd play him next week is because it would make that clip of Stephen
Chase saying not to draft him in fantasy football even funnier if he then went on to have the
all time greatest season in the history of the sport of football.
I also Eric Dickerson's Eric Dickerson has been kind of a salty bitch about it.
So like I kind of want him to play for that reason too.
So yeah, it's like Mercury Morris vibes when Mercury Morris would like talk shit
about any team that was, you know, 12 and O, but I kind of respect it too.
Like if you're Eric Dickerson, you don't, you don't want your record to be broken.
That's not true.
When people say that like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, when he had to give that
game, but when they stopped the entire NBA to give a ball to LeBron James,
that is that's no, nobody with a realistic,
like a true competitor would not want their record to be broken.
They want to be known as the best.
Here's the only counterpoint. And I feel like if I had a record like that,
I would, I'd want it to be broken before I died because you do get a bounce of like everyone
saying, wow, Eric Dickerson was incredible. That's an insane record. So like if I could
time it to like get my record broken, like a year or two before I die so that I get all
the, cause like once you're dead, what does it fucking matter? You know, it's going to
get broken and you're going to be dead and
no one's going to be able to say, Hey, you were awesome.
Okay. So that's a good point because if you're like Michael Strahan and you
have the single season rec for sacks, you're already famous.
You're on every fucking TV show in America.
You don't want that record to be broken. There's no upside for you.
Yeah. But it, but if you haven't really done much since you played,
you're fading off a little bit. Then you get what you get a week of free dinners, right?
And you get to go to the game and you get to be like all young buck like great job
And if you're Dickerson you get the added bonus of an extra game and I know the carries max
You mentioned the carries you had that ready to go
But you could always be like I
Didn't play 17 games. Yeah, so you could be like oh I had the 16 game record. It is cool
to get 2,000 yards though in 16 games. Yes very cool. Very very cool. I yeah I don't know.
Sequon did have a funny line after which is more injury for the Giants when he said it was his
first hat and t-shirt game and he didn't even know that was a thing
That's tough for Giants fans that he was like I had no idea that a hat and t-shirt game was a thing Do you think yeah, do you think the Cowboys will play train let tree Lance next week?
I mean they should why right out of there. I don't know
Okay, I
Feel like he's lost his fastball. No Eagles fans are chirping him
He's getting choked and then he's going on and he's he's fastball. No, Eagles fans are chirping him. He's getting choked.
And then he's going on and he's he's amplifying that. Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. I'm worried about Jerry Jones.
I don't think he's capable of making his insane decisions anymore. I think that he's just, you know, kind of a normal guy that doesn't like to serve the pot too much.
I don't like that. Yeah, I agree. It's it's it's a little he's being a little too quiet about everything
Yeah, what are you laughing about Max? I'm just thinking about Eagles fans are the best I think there was this guy behind me at the game today and
Every single play was a bullshit call by the refs and it was a fucking show
I remember there was two tackles of like say what was just running outside and they just like took his legs out
He just goes that's a chop block. That's a fucking chop block.
I was just like having no idea what any of it actually means, but I,
I shout out that guy. That guy was the best.
Shout out that guy. Um, Oh B Rob,
we need him to score a touchdown for the people. All right. Uh, Giants 45,
Colts 33. Who's more mad at this result?
The Giants.
But the Colts too, like that, they were, the Colts were in the pecking order of like, you know,
obviously we've talked about the Bengals a lot, but the Colts were going to be in if the Broncos
lost in week 18.
I still think the Giants are more angry about it. If you're a Colts fan, yeah, your defense sucked.
Your defense was so bad.
Your drew, drew lock carved you up,
but you had Joe Flacco.
So you can just say, oh, we had our backup quarterback.
So in terms of what this means for the future,
we can't get the full picture on everything.
Cause if, if AR is in there,
he's probably going to run the ball a lot more and,
you know, limit the possessions a little bit, but yeah,
it's bad. It's bad for both teams.
Don't get me wrong.
But for the Giants, this was such a bad win.
This might be the worst win of all time.
Yeah, I mean, they went from the first draft pick to the fourth.
And they obviously need a quarterback.
And the other team that's taking ahead of them, yes, exactly.
Yeah, so it's crazy They end up winning this game
It does kind of prove that tanking in the NFL is impossible because the quotes from the Giants players after were like We're not fucking trying to lose like we're out here playing for our jobs. They did
Avoid becoming the first team ever to lose nine home games in a season
but so I to lose nine home games in a season. But, so, I actually think it could be worse for the Colts
if they don't fire Chris Ballard.
That would be my statement.
Chris Ballard, do you know this?
This is a fun stat about Chris Ballard.
So he took over the job in 2017.
Since 2017, there have been, I think it's seven, so seven years, seven winners of the AFC South.
The Jaguars have won it twice. The Titans have won it twice. The Texans have won it three times.
The Indianapolis Colts have won it zero times. It is the most combustible division that you can win year to year.
And Chris Ballard's teams have not won it a single time.
And this is another year where remember the 2021 year where they lost the Jags
or a terrible Jags team at the end of the season.
Yep.
They had it last year where they had a win and get in game.
His teams just fall apart.
Their defenses fall apart.
The giants were averaging 14 points a game and they had 45.
I know there were some turnovers, but 45 points like
Malik neighbors couldn't be stopped. The running game.
Drew Locke is a Bronco for life. We already knew that,
but he's still even more of a Bronco for life for beating the Colts.
Yeah. Bad. It's, it's a very bad situation for the Colts,
but I feel like this was in a, so if they,
if they had won this game and then they lost next week, didn't get in.
I would think that Chris Ballard had a higher likelihood of sticking around.
Right? Yeah.
Yeah. If this gets rid of Chris Ballard,
this is an okay loss for the Colts because you, if you keep Chris Ballard and you,
they already said the anti-richardians is going to be their quarterback starting
quarterback start next year. So I'd already like to make a prediction.
If Chris Ballard sticks around,
if they don't change anything for the Colts,
I'd like to make a prediction that the Colts will finish eight or nine or nine
and eight and miss the playoffs. Yep. It sounds about right.
They're going to be, yeah.
This is one of those shootouts where I thought that the Colts should have gone
for two when they were, they scored a touchdown. I think they were down.
What were they down? Uh,
I think to make it down nine instead of down 10, like your defense,
your defense wasn't stopping anybody. And sometimes you got to do weird shit
like that. And we saw Matt LaFleur tried to do something like that later on in
the day. But, uh, yeah, bad, bad game for the Colts, bad game for the Giants fans.
I know they were very active. They were very vocal about like they were cheering on the team. They wanted to win.
But there's probably like a hangover that you had when you're driving out of the stadium and you're like, that was fun. But fuck. Yeah, I really, I really, it's like, I really should only thing you could, I think, I think the only thing you could say is maybe,
and this is what I would do if our giants fan be like, you know, there's no, it's not
like the best quarterback class and we would have to talk ourselves into it. And maybe
you get the decision made for you. And also the, the Patriots are first pick right now.
They already have a quarterback, so you could potentially trade, which sucks, but yeah,
it's a bad law. It's a bad win. I mean, it's a bad win. You can't win that game
if you're the Giants. I don't know. Like you just can't win
that game.
There's somewhere there is somebody's dad who's a Giants
fan. That is like, it's okay. It's all right that we lost
that cam ward. He sat out the second half of the full game.
You don't want to that's not a giant. It's not New York. Do
you think Eli Manning would ever do that? That's not the kind of
guy we want.
Yeah, that's true. I just can't. I just want to keep speaking up for Colts fans.
I know Dan Dock, it's our friend Dan Dock is just doing it cause he,
he's been saying the truth about Chris Ballard for a long time.
Chris Ballard, you just like,
it's insane that he doesn't get more heat than I mean that stat about every other
team winning the AFC South twice in his time and him never winning one.
And not only that, but this was the first year in his, uh,
tenure that they had the same starting quarterback from one year to the next.
And the Richardson technically was a starting quarterback last year,
starting quarterback this year.
That's all he's been doing is just changing quarterbacks.
He's gone through a million and I know Andrew Luck retired and that was bad,
but like it's,
I feel bad for Colts fans because it feels like this guy's never going to get
fired. And, and you just have like soft teams that end up falling apart
in the end, especially defensively at the end of the season.
Yeah. For the last leg,
how long has it been 15 years with Grigson even before this?
The Colts always have a GM that kind of just, he just hangs out with
Jim Ursay and gets his trust and then doesn't get any results until somebody that Ursay
trusts tells him like, Hey, this guy's just taking your money.
Yeah. It's crazy because you can't like the Colts had Peyton Manning. So they can't, you
know, like if you're a Colts fan, you've had good moments, but, and then you had Andrew Luck and that obviously,
you know, they couldn't protect him and he retired early.
But I do feel bad for Colts fans because they are the ultimate tease team where
they are always a little bit competitive. And they actually like weirdly do the
right thing of like that when they lose, when they have a bad season,
they really do bottom out. You know, they had the season to get Andrew Luck.
They, they had a four and 12 season and got Anthony Richardson. Like they do it correct, but they just, there's such a T there eight and nine, nine and eight every single year.
And they fall apart like this and it would drive me nuts. And Chris Ballard, I don't know how you
have a job as a national sports podcast, fire Chris Ballard. Yeah. Bill Polly and made one
good decision,
and that was he drafted Peyton Manning instead of Ryan Leaf.
And then he didn't have to make another decision
about a quarterback for a very long time.
And then, yeah, every other person that's taken over
that right-hand man to Jim Ursay has just been like,
Jim, I got this, don't worry about the outside.
I'm gonna handle all this.
You just go buy another guitar.
I'll make everything okay.
Yeah, yeah, exactly right. All right, Bucks Panthers, Bucks 48, Panthers 14. Bucks are back. That was a big
statement win just off of a bad game against the Cowboys. I know the Panthers defense, like the
Panthers were missing everyone. You know, Chuba was out, J.C. Horn was out, Josie Jewel was out.
Like they got absolutely gashed. The big story of this,
I had two big stories from this game. Actually three, Bryce Young is still good, quarterback
of the future for the Panthers. Number two is Mike Evans now is 85 yards away from getting
a thousand yards, so I'm hoping for that because we're a big Mike Evans podcast. And number
three, the duck that caused the block punt, that was awesome. Get that duck into the Bucks
Hall of Fame. So I don't know how you can find that duck
but you need to get that duck maybe eat it maybe eat it before the playoffs
I've seen better ducks but PFT for people who don't who weren't watching
this game I don't blame you there was a duck on the field they showed the duck
they were like zooming in on the duck.
Literally the second after they were zooming in on the duck, they had to go away from the duck because the Bucks blocked a punt and got a touchdown out of it.
The duck caused that. And then the whole crowd started chanting Ducky, Ducky, because they were chanting Bucky earlier because Bucky Irving had an incredible game. Get that duck. If you want to win a Super Bowl, don't eat the duck. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, get the duck,
put it in a, put it in a mascot, you know, bin. I don't even know cage,
have it on the sideline. That duck is vibes that could win you a Super Bowl.
Okay, listen, I, I got no problem with the duck.
I just wish that the duck had been in the shot, like the live shot when the pot was blocked.
That would have really sealed the deal for, I think it's a very good duck.
I think as far as ducks go, it's an elite duck.
But if you're gonna talk like hall of fame,
let's turn this into a rally squirrel.
I would like the duck to have a better sense
of camera presence.
And to know when he's on TV.
But it was the magic of television
where great job to the guys in the truck.
Guys in the truck put the camera on the duck
They were the ones that spotlighted the duck for us the duck just kind of he didn't know he was on TV
And he flew away when the lights got bright. Yeah
So I'll take that I agree with you there like the duck it would have been cool if the duck
Had like run the punt block back with the team
They they should bring that duck all around Tampa.
I want to see that duck at hockey games.
I want to give the duck a key to the city.
If you turn the duck, because if you give the duck a chance
to be great on TV and give them another shot,
I think the duck does have something special.
But I need to see more film of the duck
before I can confirm it as being like a duck of destiny.
Yeah. Baker's going to end up with, uh, cause they have the bucks.
Do you have to play next week? Uh,
Baker's going to end up with 40 touchdowns, 40 plus touchdowns and 4,500 yards.
What a, what a season.
So are the bucks a team that you would not want to play?
I would say the bucks are a team. I do not want to play.
Okay. So would you rather play the Rams or the bucks?
I'd rather play the Rams.
I think.
I don't know.
The Bucks defense is not great,
although they have been injured.
I know Antoine Winfield was out in this game
and he's very important,
but Todd Bowles can dial it up, PFT.
He can heat up a quarterback.
I think that the Rams and the Bucks are just complete like polar opposites right now,
where the Rams defense is very good.
And the Bucks defense isn't the Bucks offense is clicking.
The Rams defense looks old and slow.
Yeah, the Bucks like Bucky Irving is awesome.
190 yards from scrimmage today.
Jalen McMillan is a real deal wide receiver number two option.
Mike Evans looks fine.
Like yeah, I would probably not want to play the Bucks just because
there's just more variance in like a shootout and stuff, you know.
I wouldn't want to play a pissed off Baker.
Yeah. Yeah, that's that's facts. For sure. And then yeah the Panthers were
really injured and I do think Bryce Young he made an insane awesome throw to
Adam. They should the Panthers need to keep Adam Thielen. That they do need to
do because they that's clearly a connection that works for Bryce Young
and like that was a smart signing that is now showing that it was smart like
you need a guy like that for a young quarterback and Adam Thielen still got some gas in the tank.
Adam Thielen's got to be so happy that things just like magically turned around. He was in hell.
When we talked to him? Yeah. Yeah. I felt like Adam Thielen was like very, very close to
having a hamstring injury that lingered on for like 10 weeks. Yeah, but I wouldn't blame them the way that things were going.
But yeah, it's the the minor car accident with Andy Dalton turned
around the entire vibe.
Yeah, it sucks because like no one's happy that Andy Dalton got into
a car accident, but it ended up making entire city happy.
Yeah, and the Panthers arrow pointing up which again, if you had
asked us this in October,
there's no chance that you'd be enthused about the Panther season going into next year.
I think legitimately you can be, especially in the NFC South where that's a division where
teams can feel like they can win it out of nowhere.
So I just want the Bucs in the playoffs.
I would like to see the Bucs in the playoffs.
I want to see Baker in the playoffs. I would like to see the Bucks in the playoffs. I want to see Baker in the playoffs he's it's like
Like no offense to Michael Pennex in the Falcons, but like I want to I have personal preferences
I want to see Baker over the Falcons
I want to see Joe burrow over imagine if the Dolphins make it like if the Broncos lose and the Dolphins get in no
offense to the Dolphins fans, but like I want to see the Bengals. I'm sorry. I want to see the Bengals. I don't want to see them. Baker Sam Darnold matchup
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Dot com. Okay, we're back. I've changed locations. Hank has joined us and the
Washington commanders are officially in the playoffs. Congratulations PFT. We
watched the end of that game. It was crazy. You're in the playoffs. Yaw. Baby.
I mean, what a what a great season. This has been unreal. Like the office were way
outside my expectations. Now as Hank says,
let's go in the whole damn thing. Right Hank? Yeah. Yeah.
Fuck it. Yeah.
But Daniels did throw that interception. I want,
I want to just talk about that interception for a little bit. It was a bad pick.
Shouldn't have thrown that went right to the linebacker. They confused them.
You know, he's a rookie. Sometimes mistakes will happen,
but you can't make excuses. A simple zone blitz.
You should know better as a rookie than to make a pass like that. Oh yeah.
Also he had infinity rushing yards and uh, we are now 11.
That's a, you know what? This is a huge, this is our 11th win, right?
This is a very important moment for me, big cat,
because the insult graphic that people like to put up your
memes, et cetera, is in the off season of the last time each team has won 11 games.
And it's every other team since like 2009.
And then Washington is in 1991.
There you go.
I mean, he's dead.
We fucking killed him today and we did it in 16 games.
So you can't even do that excuse to it. I don't remember ever winning 11 games.
I don't.
I remember the Super Bowl in 1991, but I don't remember winning 11 games.
I don't know what I'm supposed to feel like shout out to Zach
Hertz who caught I think two balls with his dick, which has got to be a record.
Pennex look good. I want to give credit to Michael Pennix though.
Yeah. His, his drive to tie the game was awesome,
but then Jayden Daniels drive in overtime was incredible.
And you're in the playoffs. Like that was a, that was an incredible drive.
That was everything that, you know, this whole year has been, he's been insane.
And now you're in the playoffs, Hank lost a bet. But he now is all in on Super Bowl.
It also changed essentially all of next Sunday because the Rams
have clinched the NFC West officially. The Bucs are winning
get in the and then like you guys are set. So there was I
don't know, maybe like three or four games that were maybe going to be more meaningful.
We're not, we're not, you're in the playoffs because we just jumped the Packers. So now we're the sixth seed.
Oh, so we would play against the Rams. That's why big cat. I need you to, I need you to beat the Packers.
We need that. We need that.
Try. Can you try for a big cat? Just one last. I know you're already saying I'm not worried.
I'm not worried about the Rams. They're not that
good. You're fine. You could beat the Rams. No, I'm saying in
order. So there's a possibility that if the Packers, if they
beat the Bears next week, then they're 12 and five. That means
that we would have to beat the Cowboys to get the sixth seed.
Yeah. Yes. You're putting what's more likely to
happen. The Washington commanders beating Cooper rushing
the Cowboys or the Chicago Bears beating the Green Bay
Packers. Don't put that on me. You don't need to handle that.
You don't handle that. I would like you to chip in.
Chip in. You don't need them to. I can't handle that. There's
nothing I can do. They're not gonna do. There's no chipping
in. They're not doing anything.
They're not even gonna show up to the game.
You guys are gonna beat the Cowboys,
you're gonna play the Rams, you're gonna beat the Rams,
and then you're gonna play the Eagles?
I don't know, what's wrong, Max?
Max has put his hand up.
I thought I was playing the Commanders in the first round.
No, well, not anymore, buddy.
Oh no, Max.
Yeah. Now you're going to be playing.
So wait, who would match the Packers right now?
Oh, no. Oh, no.
But it all comes down to what happens next week
and because of the Packers win and we lose, then it's back to the game.
Means just win.
Yeah, but just win.
Actually, you know what?
No, but just lose because we we want commander's Eagles. I want
to, I want to, yeah, we want commander's Eagles for the show.
Hey, come on. So maybe, you know what? Maybe the bears will,
can't even say with a straight face, the Packers dude,
well, the bears beat the Packers, then we don't get
commander's Eagles first round.
Oh, oh yeah, they would be okay. Soers, then we don't get Commander's Eagles first round. Oh, oh yeah.
They would be okay.
So yeah, so you don't, we need Commander's Eagles.
The show needs Commander's Eagles.
The show should be rooting for Commander's Eagles.
So that means that the show is worried.
Best case scenario for the show and for you specifically would be
Commander's Rams first round, Commander's win.
That's true. It was Packers first round first round commanders win. That's true
It was Packers first round Eagles Eagles win and you get all the all the bad juju out of the way and then we get
Commanders Eagles. Yes. Okay, I can live with that. I can deal with that
Still not the way that's not true
Max is like heartbroken. It would be commanded. It would be commanders
Max is like heartbroken right now. It would be Commander's Vikings.
Oh, yeah.
No, it wouldn't be Commander's Vikings.
Those are two wild card teams.
Yes, it would.
Unless the Vikings get the one seed.
Unless the Vikings.
No.
Right now, the Vikings have the one seed.
That's why I said that.
Right, because the Lions haven't played yet.
Correct.
Correct.
No, the Commanders and Eagles are not
going to play in the playoffs unless they play in the NFC
Championship game. Yeah. All right, then I'll take it back. No commanders the commanders and Eagles are not gonna play in the playoffs unless they play in the NFC. Yes
Yeah, okay. All right. Yeah
We need commanders Eagles. Yeah, we do
Alright, so the show
Next weekend, but I will not be rooting for that Max is so confused right? I mean I thought you wanted the commanders, right?
Yeah, dude, you know he does wonder the Packers are a million times better wanted the commanders, right? Yeah, dude. No, he does want the commanders. The Packers are a million times better than the commanders.
Yeah, keep it up.
Yeah, I love this, Max.
Actually, Max, that's not true,
because the commanders are the sixth seed right now.
How could they be a million times better
than the Packers when the Packers are the seventh seed?
Good point.
What is this playoff?
I don't know why in my head,
it's so great because max like literally was,
has spent the last month being like, Oh, I'm so stressed out. Like the,
the commander's like, it'd be bad for like my life and everything. If they,
but now it's setting in that he might have to play the Packers and he is
terrified of the Packers terrified.
Well, cause I'm going to have you on my side and you don't.
I don't like you on my side in the playoffs.
But I'm going to be on if this sets up, I'm going to be on both of your sides big time.
If the commanders play the Rams, I'm going to be fucking burgundy and gold.
And then the Eagles play the Packers. We're going to be doing Kelly Green shit.
Yeah, that's bad for both of you, actually, now that I'm playing this out in my head.
You might go over to that weekend.
So they just announced the schedule for next week.
The Tangle Web. We we've the Browns, Ravens,
for the early afternoon game and then the Bengals Steelers night game on Saturday. On Saturday. Okay. That's good.
So the Bengals and the Steelers are playing before the other teams that would
have an impact on the Bengal season. Got it. I like that.
And so yeah, then the other big note is it looks like,
yeah, Bears Packers will be playing at the same time as commanders Cowboys.
Yeah. They always try to link those up and then they and then
Sunday Night Football, I would assume would be Vikings Lions
for the ones he's lying and that kicks ass.
Yeah, that does kick ass.
That's a massive game.
Congrats, PFT.
That's awesome.
That was that was of like insane drive by Jaden Daniels at
the end of the game.
It was.
Yeah, his legs were great today. He took some bad shots that that first half play where he got bent over like his knee looked like it popped and I
Ran out of the room screamed. Oh fuck ran back in and somehow when I came back in the room
He was on his feet and like smile smiling. Yeah, what the fuck again? He leads the league in smiles, but it's
That was a true my life flash before my eyes moment. And
if if Dan Snyder was still the owner of the team, they'd be
picking pieces of his PCL out of the Sean Taylor statues face
mask. Yeah, like that his knee would break if somehow somehow
every bad thing has become a good thing for the vibes. And I
just don't I don't want to touch anything or do anything. But yeah, I mean,
meaningful playoff football. This is pretty cool. It's pretty
cool. So hopefully I get max. So yeah, here's a recap 12 of the
14 playoff spots are set in the AFC chiefs bills Texans Raven
Steelers and Chargers in the NFC Lions Vikings Packers Eagles
commanders and Rams. The NFC South champion is still to be decided. Bucks and Falcons. Bucks win,
they're in. Bucks lose and Falcons win. Falcons are in. And then the Broncos, Dolphins, and
Bengals will get the last AFC wild card spot, which, again, no offense to the Dolphins,
Again, no offense to the Dolphins, it has to be Broncos or Bengals. I can't, like, that would be such a bummer if the Broncos lost and the Dolphins won and
the Dolphins got in because I feel like that would surprise a lot of people too.
Because you know, it's been all about the Bengals.
Yeah.
And then that would be a shit pumping.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think the yeah, I mean, if the Bengals get in, that's just a super
awesome wild card weekend of competitive games. Cause you got
like, you have two seven seeds that could beat the two seeds
in the Bengals versus the Bills and the Packers versus the
Eagles. Yeah.
He's so, he's so confused. He's looking at the numbers. He's
crunching the data that he can't figure it out.
The number on the left is the wins and the number on the right is the losses of each team.
And right now, it looks like if you look at the standings, the commanders have 11 on the left and then they only have, they got five on the right.
And Max, it's pretty simple. So they have the same record, but the commanders are eight and three in the conference and the
Packers are six and five and that's the tiebreaker two teams
and not in the same division. The tiebreaker is conference.
Got it. Yeah.
Like if a man if the if the Eagles had beaten the commanders
that would have helped a lot to would have helped a lot would
have helped a lot. Yeah. But man, helped a lot. Would have helped a lot. Yeah.
But man.
But the Packers are better than the Commanders.
Well, actually technically they're not.
No, no, PFT do not concede that point.
You're the sixth seed.
The Packers are the seventh seed.
The Commanders are better than the Packers.
We're seeded, we're currently seeded higher right now.
But it's not even division winning.
It's not like a eight and eight NFC South team is higher.
You guys are both wild card teams,
and you are better than them.
You know what, though?
I want to agree with Max, though.
I want to say that the Packers are a better team.
I want to encourage the hate.
I want to encourage the nobody believes in us.
I feel like that's a good thing to have on your side,
going to the playoffs.
This just got me so juiced up for playoff football.
Oh, I mean Packers Eagles first round.
Holy shit.
What a game.
Back to eight.
It's like, yeah, like it's like actually like the Packers are
like shit yesterday.
The one imagine that Max one of those teams, they started their
season with them and then they ended their season with them.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Let's be good teams in the playoffs.
Gotta be good teams.
But you thought you were going to get to play the commanders first.
Yeah, yeah.
You got Tanner McKee.
All right.
Congrats to PFT, commanders in the playoffs.
All right, let's get back to the games.
Bills 40, Jets 14.
Where do you want to start memes?
Do you want to start with the Jets coming out?
Aaron Rodgers is a bitch. Where do you want to start memes? Do you want to start with the jet coming out?
Aaron Rodgers is a bitch
Him complaining to Kenny a boa that he didn't come to the ball when he was wide open for a walk-in touchdown
Was it was just like the epitome of the jet season?
Yeah, I was gonna say though gangsters paradise. That was quite something. Did you see the alternate angle no what was the alternate angle i want to see every angle of josh allen just staring at him laughing
stuff what about um what about garrett wilson's quote did you see garrett wilson's quote he said
uh i always feel like we go out there the vibe feels right uh We're ready to play then we get our asses kicked.
Yes all that.
Do you want to talk about sauce Gardner on Instagram telling T Higgins not to come to
the New York Jets and then on then after the game in his post game interview he was like
yes kind of frustrating because some guys seem like they're checked out.
Yeah, but then he, he did a fact check. He said we already have K and Garrett, so we don't need T Higgins. But meanwhile, if
Aaron Rodgers isn't on the team, then you don't have to Vonte
Adams. So you would need someone like he had to be
and, and if Aaron Rodgers is on the team, you don't have Garrett
Wilson.
We might not have Garrett Wilson.
Could request for a trade.
Good. And he also just went for his third straight year, a thousand yards.
He's awesome.
You want to keep Garrett Wilson more than Devonte Adams.
Yeah. If it's Garrett Wilson or the other two,
you let the other two walk and you like Garrett Wilson pick the bridge
quarterback or whoever else. Oh shit. So now he's the GM. Yeah, if it's Garrett Wilson or the other two, you let the other two walk and you like Garrett Wilson pick the bridge
quarterback or whoever else. Oh shit. So now he's the GM.
Bricks gone. We need to think outside the Xbox.
What do you think about there's a big free agent coach,
maybe the soft season has experience working with Aaron Rodgers and and making him play it to the best of his abilities Mike McCarthy
Hmm. I take Michael car thing a second
They won
I'm a went what do you go 12 and 5 up until this year for the past four seasons?
Yes, take take McCarthy with no Aaron Rodgers. Yes
That's good, That's good.
That's good.
We're making progress now.
My entire day during the game was looking up coaches
and trying to figure out which quarterbacks are available.
Yeah.
Do you know what you just did?
You did a very powerful thing, which
is you mentally moved on from having the entire purpose
for your next head coach to make Aaron Rodgers happy,
which is good. Yeah, no, he's got to get in line. No more Ayahuasca. the entire purpose for your next head coach be to make
Aaron Rodgers happy which is
good. Yeah no he's got to get
line- no more I was going to
if he's going to be here you
have to lock it. Okay I've
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How much time like one day locked in 24 hours. Yeah, that's fine. But he's just got to lock in.
Okay. All right. So he had the worst QBR since like 2001 of any quarterback today. Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah. I mean, I feel like those stats are like, they're created to get people talking about things. So obviously, you didn't have a good game. He played very poorly. No, he's not like I don't think Aaron Rodgers is the worst quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, no, not five and everything. No, well, today's top one most sacks in NFL history.
That's true. And he also let benched himself. Yeah, he should have been benched a while before that. the- the- the- the- the- the-
because I wanted Eberfluss fired, you wanted Salah fired. I think we probably both would have won more games
if they didn't fire the coach.
Oh, 100%.
Not like a ton more, but like maybe two more,
which is crazy to say, but it's probably the truth
because it somehow got worse after,
like usually you get a little bounce.
We got worse after firing the coach.
Significantly worse, and the penalties today were so bad.
I just want a coach who comes in and just
teaches how not to false start or I'm blanking.
A legal shift.
You had 16 penalties today.
That's a lot.
Yeah.
No, it was brutal.
Breece Hall would get a 20 yard run
and then be called back for a hold.
It was just nonstop. It was an annoying
Sunday to describe it. Yeah. Why did they do the the boombox right next to Aaron Rodgers going out
into the field? I feel like that should be some that's more of like a defensive thing. Get the
boys hyped. Instead you have it like right next to Aaron Rodgers ear. Also in that video, Garrett
Wilson is nowhere to be found. Yeah. I also think PFT, it's also not a 4-11 team thing.
Yeah, probably.
But the boys have fun.
That doesn't feel like 4-11 team.
You gotta do whatever you gotta do
to get mentally ready for a football game.
I get it.
That's my deal.
You get to listen to music if you win.
Yeah, I don't think, didn't matter. I mean, it was listen to it if you win. Yeah I didn't matter
I mean it was forty to nothing in this game by the way shout out Mitch one for
one sixty nine yards touchdown
no big deal also pretty good looking
it bills lock in the second seed ought to play anyone week eighteen and get a
little mini by
arm also Josh Allen
I just tied the record for most rushing touchdowns for the Bills.
65, Thurman Thomas.
So he should, I hope he wins MVP.
My personal choice is him.
But I also feel like this MVP discussion is just going to get so ugly.
And he's been insane this year.
So, and their defense,
Bill's defense look good. I don't know if that's much the
Jets offense look bad, but the Bill's defense did look better
than they've looked the last couple of weeks. Yeah. Do you
think that there's a chance that the the quarterbacks split the
quarterback vote for MVP and then the block of guys who are
solid Saquon guys, they pull it out. Maybe three way. I PFT as well has have Lamar, but I feel like Josh Allen locked it up today.
I feel like if they won like kind of a ugly like, you know, 14 to three stinker,
but he played well, had the stats like I feel like he pretty much locked it up today.
But but we've we before and Hank was had flight issues.
We made the case for Joe burrow earlier in the in the show
because Joe burrows doing stuff that literally every time a
quarterback's done it.
They've won MVP and and he also PFC you just said the schedule
Joe burrow does get a standalone game on Saturday night.
If he goes off against the Steelers and it's like the Bengals did everything they could, like it would be crazy because you
could possibly have an MVP that's not even in the playoffs, which doesn't happen anymore.
Yeah. Has that ever happened? It's happened. I who there was a, I gotta look it up now,
but it it's become the MVP kind of sucks now because it's just
the quarterback of the one or the two seat. That's just what it is. Um, but
yeah, I mean, it would be having a standalone game week 18 if you're Joe
burrow and you have like an entire broadcast where they're talking about
you and if you go off that definitely could help him. Yeah. And I think
having more games like he had against the Broncos where
everything else around him fails and he's the only one that,
that like steps up and you know,
if he has to win the game three times in a row again, like if,
if Zach Taylor accidentally ices his own kicker as he's kicking,
the field goal goes in, they give him the time out.
The second kick misses if like more shit like that happens that he has to come back from and, and cover up. timeout, the second kick misses. If like more shit like
that happens that he has to come back from and cover up, then that's good for him too.
Yeah. Okay, I'm looking it up right now. 97 Lions went nine and seven and co MVP was Barry
Sanders. I'm trying to see if there's any other ones. So yeah, that's probably I mean, it doesn't happen anymore.
That just doesn't happen.
You have to win like 1213 games to win MVP.
So Joe Burrows probably not going to win it.
Josh, I hope wins it.
Lamar probably will end up winning it because again, we talked about this.
It's narratives and Lamar played a couple standalone games at the end of the season and that's that's how it gets decided
Okay, anything else memes? I mean, did you see your decision?
What did you see Aaron Rodgers business decision on the fumble? No. Yeah, he didn't really die for it. I
Wouldn't if I were him. Yeah
He go. Yeah the
If I were him. Yeah, he's gone. Yeah, the memes you're you and I are just the same where it's just like get get this hell season over with. Like wake me up when we hire a new coach and then wake me up again at the draft. Yeah, I saw a bunch of jet fans getting mad at people for saying just, I want the season to be over, which I don't get. Because as soon as the season's over, you get all
the new toys. Right. And then you have direction. I just didn't understand that. I think people
disagree.
No, that's that makes no sense. I've wanted the season to be over for a month now, month
and a half. Since Thanksgiving, I've been like, get me out of this season. You've probably
been longer than that.
Yeah. And I'm just mad that our tankathon. We're now at seven
I don't understand our words. It's there's a lot of bad teams, you know
Bullshit, you know, what's bullshit about the tankathon and how they decide it if you play a harder schedule you should get I
Guess that doesn't make sense because if you play a worse schedule and you have a bad record that means you really are worse
All right, I get it. I understand it Guess that doesn't make sense because if you play a worse schedule and you have a bad record that means you really are worse
Alright, I get it. I understand it. No one makes sense strike that from the record, but I got mad about that too memes We're the same person. Yeah, we should just sit down and have a long talk when we get back
Okay, so we congratulate Hank though
What did Hank do?
number one
well, I
Don't know if they're gonna hold hold on to it. I have a prediction.
I think the Cleveland Browns are going to get the number one pick.
Okay. Ravens backups.
I think the Ravens, I think the Browns, if they start DTR, I do not think you can win a football game with DTR.
The Bills are going to play the Patriots.
The Bills are going to, like, the Bills have every, why wouldn't they try to lose that
game?
Like, they don't want the Patriots to have the number one pick.
A little MVP that we know as Mitch Trubisky, one for one today with a touchdown, 69 yards.
I understand, but you don't, if you're in a division, you don't want to give them the number one pick and you have the coach trying to
keep his job. So he's going to try to win that game with a rookie
quarterback. And then the other one is the Titans playing the Texans. Texans
aren't going to play anyone. Also a rookie coach trying to keep you know
his job, which I don't think he should get fired, but probably trying to keep
his job. I think the Browns could get
the one. I think it could. I think it could. I think you
could find a way to sneak in there. I mean, Hank haven't
having the one seed. I don't think they're crazy at all.
Yeah, I mean, Hank, you don't necessarily need the one seed
because you've got a quarterback. So if you got the
one seed, you would just sell it off. Yeah, but I think.
You take Travis Hunter. No, no, I
think you would trade back. Yeah, maybe. Hey, you have a
bidding. It depends on depends on how much I don't know if
this quarterback class would be like people might not be trying
to trade multiple one, you know, number one picks to get to
trade up in this. But you can trade back at least a few spots
and get more picks. I'm not again like I we learned last year I don't even know anything
about the draft but I you know today I was thinking about it's like there's no
world where even if we have the one pick we're not drafting first. Yeah it just
depends on what other teams are behind you and what other teams like are willing
to do because like if you're not totally sold on Chador Sanders or Cam Ward you're not going to trade a future first round pick
to move up.
Yeah, but I feel like when it comes down to it like people teams get sold on QBs.
Yeah, you're probably right.
You think they need QBs but they get sold off on QBs no matter how good or not good
they are.
You'd definitely rather end up with the number one pick than not because at least you have all the options. Then you can then you can sell it for a shitload of
money. You'll probably end up trading it to the to the Raiders. Like Tom Brady will get on the phone
with Robert Kraft and true. Yeah. It'll be like Tommy, Tommy, I want to make a deal. I'll give
you a discount Tommy. Yeah. Also, Chador Sanders tweeted after the Patriots lost before the Giants game.
Thank you, God. So maybe he's happy about the Patriots because that means he'll go to the Raiders with Tommy.
I mean, Nick Wright's tweet was ridiculous, but also kind of hilarious.
Yeah, very funny. Nick Wright tweeted that would it be so crazy if the Patriots traded Drake
May, drafted Shador Sanders because they traded Drake May, they got another pick. So they
trade Drake May to like the Titans. They get the one and two pick. They draft Shador Sanders,
they draft Travis Hunter, and then Dion's the new head coach.
That would be crazy.
I mean, I like taking that shot by Nick Wright.. Like that was, that was a fun shot. It makes no, it would never happen,
but it's a fun fucking like,
Yeah. And I feel like Dion has made that happen the whole way.
So why not? Why not? Yeah. I mean, why not? Oh, by the way,
I think it's more likely that,
that Dion takes the Raiders job and then they trade with New England, get the first pick and get Chador.
Yeah. Um, well,
let's talk about the Raiders Raiders, 25 saints, 10.
The Raiders might have a quarterback. Yeah. AOC is pretty good.
Scott Turner's working magic. The Raiders,
they got there at like one in the morning. There was all this flight issue. I,
I said that it might be a Darren Rizzi cry game. They did an insane trick play in the first half to go up seven to six.
And then the Saints were like, oh, yeah, I forgot.
We suck.
And we suck dick.
And we're going to just suck for the entire second half
because Spencer Rattler played like a pretty good first half.
And then it was just like, yeah yeah they just can't do anything.
Yeah there's been a lot of travel issues getting into New Orleans recently and then sure knows about
it. It was very surprising actually how good the Raiders looked offensively at times. At times I say
today Brock Bauer's getting the the rookie record for tight ends beating Mike Dicka which has
apparently opened a lot of people's eyes to the fact that Mike Dicka was a fucking baller.
Everybody, like the kids, they think Mike Dicka coach
smokes cigars inside, Mike Dicka farts.
Yeah, Mike Dicka having the craziest part about that,
and it actually goes back to our previous discussion
where like Mike Dicka might actually be happy this was broken because everyone like holy shit
Dicka like to have a record an NFL record stand since
1961 is insane in a 14 game season. He just got it broken like that's a crazy record from
1961 is a long-ass time ago and dick I had that rookie
He wants a long ass time ago and Dika had that rookie, uh,
tight end record that Brock Bowers broke also shout out Mirab Dula.
He's been in the league for like a decade. And, uh, I just like, I remember watching him at Nebraska being like, I like Mirab Dula is like really
good running back. He had his career high rushing today, 10,
10 years in the league. Pretty cool.
I think we can say that AOC has at the very least earned
himself like a high tier backup spot somewhere. Yeah, like the Dolphins should should should pay
AOC like six million dollars a year. Yeah, with the understanding that you'll probably start six
to seven games. 10 to 12 games. Yeah, the Colts. They should sign them. Yeah, the Colts. Yeah, the Colts. They should sign them. Yeah, the Colts. Yeah memes. What do you think about AOC on the Jets?
Is the town big enough for two AOCs? Nope
Nope
Okay, last early game Jags 20 Titans 13
God bless anyone who went to this game because Because I actually, I'll say something nice about this game.
I actually enjoyed watching it a little bit
because it was a throwback game in the fact that
when either quarterback tried to scramble,
it was the funniest thing to watch like ever.
And it reminded me of like 90s NFL
where like the quarterbacks could not move whatsoever and Mac Jones and Mason
Rudolph every time they tucked it in ran. It was like watching the game in slow motion
and I got a little I got a little chuckle out of that. Yeah, it's kind of nice. I like
this game because it ended so fast. Yeah, I think it was the first year we slay and it
was it beat the other games with like eight minutes left in the fourth quarter. So good
job speeders through this one. Also Hank, we should,
we should ask Hank for his comments on Jimmy Carter because we talked about
president Carter a little bit. He passed away. I think this game killed him,
but instead of like really doing a recap on it,
I'd like to hear your thoughts on the man. Not a great president.
Thank you, princess.
Okay. Also two other notes from this game. Brian Thomas is awesome. He's only the fourth receiver,
fourth rookie receiver ever to go 1100 yards, 10 TDs. The
other three Odell Beckham, Jamar Chase and Randy Moss. So
pretty good company that he's going to be a pretty damn good
pro and the Titans made history in this game. They
are the first team in NFL history to not cover the spread
in 14 games in a regular season. Wow, they are two and 14
against the spread that is insane. They make they make that
spread like you should be able to cover half the
spreads. Who do they play in the last week? They play the Texans so they
should they could win that game. This is a game where they might fuck around and
win. Yeah I think they will that's what is my Brown's theory of the Browns
somehow getting the number one pick. Yeah also Big Cat I don't know if you've
been able to keep an eye on Max for the last like 15 minutes, but he's still trying to figure out these numbers torture chamber. He can't figure it out. It's been 15 minutes of him staring at a screen trying to make numbers change. Max, what did you find out? No, I'm just looking. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. You got you. You're a Cowboys fan in week 18.
It's literally I think I would rather play any other.
Wild card team except for the loser of Vikings Vikings line. So you'd rather play one other wild card team. There's only three wild cards.
No, I'm including first round wild card weekend teams in the NFC.
I'm including- Okay, well you can only play the wild card teams
because you won the division.
So the only choices you have are Packers, Commanders
and Vikings and Lions.
And you said you would rather play any other team?
I get it.
I would, I wouldn't be saying I would also rather play
either Falcons or Bucks
and I would also rather play the Rams.
Why do I have to play the Packers?
But the Falcons and the Bucks aren't wild card teams.
They won the South.
I get it.
I understand.
I don't think you get it.
I don't think you get it.
I get that you'd rather play a division winner, whether it's the Falcons or the Bucks over
the Green Bay Packers, who
is a wild card. I get that. But that's how the seating works. You win your division and
you're not a wild card. If you don't win your division, then you become a wild card team.
I'd also rather play the Texans. I'd rather play the Steelers. I'd rather play the chargers.
Oh Max, this is so sad.
Come on. I'll get you pumped up.
We beat the Packers.
Yeah, we're gonna we already did beat the Packers.
We'll beat him.
Right.
Beat him again.
Yeah.
All right.
Real quick wrapping up before we talk about Packers Vikings
Dolphins 20 Browns 3.
I like I said this on Friday, but if they keep making DTR play NFL games, just keep betting against him. I
don't know. It's it's just it's just an ATM. He's not an NFL
quarterback. What do you think practice is like? Do you think
that that the team is so bummed out going into Sunday because
they've had to practice with him for a week and they just know
that we have no shot? Yeah, I think so. It's it's crazy. Seems like he was
like a nice guy. Loved watching him at UCLA. Awesome college
quarterback, not an NFL quarterback. It's mean. At this
point, it's mean what the Browns are doing to him. Yeah. Yeah,
it is. And then Snoop Huntley was pretty good. He actually was
really good. He was okay. He he hit Tyreek Tyreek still live.
Yeah, this was such a classic like, shitty weather, like
Cleveland game where the Browns defense hung around as long as
they could. And then it's like, yeah, we don't we don't have
any way of winning this game. I think they got stopped at 10
point game. They got stopped on like, like the 10 yard line. It was just so sad so sad to watch. Yeah, Miles Garrett played well
That's about it. That's it. That's it. Okay Vikings 27
Packers 25 hole and I'm tape. I'm tweeting out right now
We're currently taping PMT and Max just realized the Eagles have to play the Packers and it's broken his brain. Broken it. Is that fair to say, Max?
Max is gone. He's trying to find a brain repair. It's broken his brain.
This is the most defeatist attitude I've ever seen in someone like you.
Max, they have to come to the link.
I had to pee. Why? They have to come to the link.
No, I know. I feel good.
I feel good. I just had to go.
I feel good.
Here's what I'll say to you.
Vikings 27 Packers 25.
First of all, the Vikings are awesome. Sam Darnold was incredible today. His one mistake, that interception, next drive went five for five.
The end of the game, when they need a first down to end the game, and Kevin O'Connell is trusting Sam Darnold to throw the ball that says everything about it like they it's not Sam Darnold like Jets Sam Darnold I know
that this is old news but like that was the final piece where it's like no no
they're trusting him in big-time situations to win this game and even
with Cam Akers who I forgot he was still around had like two huge last catch he
made was insane and then he scored that touchdown.
The Vikings are really, really good
and I'm excited to watch them play the Lions
week 18 for the one seed.
The one thing that you have to be scared about
if you're a Vikings fan
is the thing you've been scared about your whole life.
Because the kicker,
I've never seen someone not look like they're up for the big moment more than that guy.
He's a Barstool intern, kicking in an NFL game.
Yeah, he's got the SEC swoop haircut.
Looks nervous, he's a little too pale.
It's crazy.
Hank, have you seen this kid?
Alright, I'm gonna send you a picture. I want your reaction.
It's...
All right, I'm gonna send you a picture. I want your reaction. It's like it's torturous for Vikings fans because I really do think their team is good
enough to go to the Super Bowl and then they have this guy, Will Richard, who
kicked for Alabama and he's like a decent kicker. He missed a couple kicks
today but it's just his face. His face makes me think that he is going to be
the guy who makes a difference. Kick for Alabama though. That's a good, at least like he's been through it.
All right. Yeah.
You got his ass chewed by Nick Saban a few times.
I mean Hank,
that guy's lining up for a big time kick. I mean, he's a kicker.
It's like it's kickers.
Still they showed him on the sideline. He was wearing the metal wedding ring, which like I don't even like I don't think you're
supposed to do in case you like your finger breaks or something.
But he's like, I'm never going to get into any physical contact.
Listen, I hope that I'm wrong because I did like that would be just so but like Vikings
fans have an insanely good team.
Their defense is good.
Sam Darnold's playing out of his mind.
They have one of the best receivers and that's your
kicker and he missed he missed one easy one today. This guy
looks like a perfect mix of spider and Jack Mack. Yeah. Oh
man. But the Vikings are really good. Kevin O'Connell should be
coach of the year. He should be coach of the year.
Sam Darnold, that was a cool moment
when he walked into the locker room after the game
and his whole team was waiting for him.
You forget how many players are on NFL roster,
but he walked in and sounded like a full auditorium
cheering for him.
Then they picked him up on their shoulders.
That must be one of the best feelings ever.
Like you win a hard fought game
and then all your boys are like, we love you.
What's better than that?
Not a lot. Nothing.
Nothing.
Not a lot.
That's it.
Have you guys ever been picked up on someone's shoulders?
Like in a Rudy type moment?
I don't think so.
No.
Waffle.
Roddy.
You guys, you guys, you guys pick me up after referrata.
That was elite.
I think I got back doing that.
That was, we got to pick our boys up more.
Yeah. We should start doing that
more often because yeah, Hank, I remember lifting you up after that. You were very sweaty,
but I was mostly just happy that you weren't dead. Yeah, I'll throw this out there because
our because our boys down right now. He's going through it mentally. I think if the
Eagles beat the Packers in the first round, we should pick up Max. Carry him off. Yep. We should carry him out of the gambling key.
Yep.
Yep.
No, we'll do that.
Yeah, we're going to do that.
We're going to do that.
Not even the commanders.
Yeah.
It's gotta be against the Packers.
If the commanders, it'll be a house divided.
No, we're going to, we're going to beat the Packers.
We're going to be.
How about, how about if it is Eagles commandersers, winner of that game gets picked up?
You can't put that on me and Big Cat's shoulders.
No.
We'll need some help.
It's facts.
I would not help pick you up.
No, PFT. If Commanders win.
PFT. I'll pick him up with one hand.
Throw me over your shoulder like a stack of potatoes. All right, so Max, here it is. And I alluded to this earlier.
I'm no longer worried about the Packers. They're a good team.
I think though they're not an elite team.
They are 0 and 5 against the best teams in the NFC.
That's the Vikings, the Eagles, and the Lions.
They make a lot of like, like their offense looks,
Josh Jacobs has been great this year, Jordan Love,
and maybe it was Christian Watson being out,
but he did not play well until, you know, like late,
and he needed to, they needed to score fast.
Like he, it just doesn't, it just doesn't look as smooth
as you would like it to look going into the playoffs
Also the whole what's going on with Zaire Alexander do you see him after the game?
He had the big hat which I pretty sure has not been cool for like five years now
And he was like if I was playing in that game
We would have won that game that doesn't that can't really help right like that's not something you really want to have a guy who hasn't played in
like a month to be saying postgame.
Was he wearing the cheese hat or no, he was wearing like the big,
the funny big hat. Right. Right. Yeah. But I,
I don't think I think the Packers could like maybe win a first round game
against like an Eagles, but I don't think they can go to the soup bowl.
Right. They're a little bit flawed, but they can run the football. They can. They can
start slow though. They did it again where they started slow.
They scored three points in the first half and it's like it's
very like you can't do that in the playoffs. You can't have a
slow start in the playoffs and that's happened a lot for them
this year where they've started slow and they had to play
catch up and it's like that's. In a in a in an elimination game like you just can't do that for
three rounds. Yeah, they they've got their issue. I don't think
that they're an elite team, but I think like I maybe it's
because every time they play good team, they play them very
close. They do and I'm like one or two things go the other way
and they win that game, but one or two things don't go that
way. Yeah, I did like the floor going for it. When they were down 11,
he went for he went for it for two to make it nine, which I
like that. That was a good move by him. He's learned Tom Brady
was perplexed by that. Yeah, no one knew what was going on. He's
like, Well, I'm glad that it worked. Because if it didn't,
that'd be bad. Yeah, that's kind of the deal. Like it worked and it actually
put them mathematically where they wanted to be. Yeah. It was like, I think
more coaches should do that, but, uh, they had no fucking idea what was going
on the broadcast. Also, did you guys listen to Tom Brady say the word sacks?
Yeah. What was that about? He says it like sacks.
You took some bad socks.
I think somebody at some point told him
that when you say sex, it sounds like you're saying sex.
So really announced, really pronunciate the ah part of socks.
Can someone play it?
He had a tough day.
I'll say it.
He had a tough day.
He started the broadcast and he was like,
I think it literally started.
I think he was saying something about the Packers is like the Packers have lost
to this team, this team. And then he's like, and what was the other teams?
Like how did you do a step that you didn't even, you didn't even know the other
end. And I think he's gotten better since the beginning of the season,
but today was maybe not his best day. Yeah. There was,
there was one time where he called out exactly who was going to blitz,
even though he wasn't lined up in a blitz formation. And I was like, okay,
all right, that was, we're right. That was we're doing something
now, Tom. He's gotten a lot better. Yeah. Yeah.
Do you have the clip? I want to hear it. memes. You have it.
You muted memes.
Yep, I got it.
He's held onto the ball quite a bit this season. He's taken a lot of sacks.
Almost 46 socks.
season and he's taking a lot of socks. Socks. Socks. Socks. It's like a Cali girl thing. Yeah, like socks. So many socks. Why are they taking so many socks? Socks. Yeah, Max, you're
going to beat the Packers. Don't worry. You're going to beat the Packers. They can't be good
teams. They don't have to play the Packers in the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. But if they do,
if the Eagles do have to, they better than the commanders. No, the Eagles have to play
them. That's true. That's true. And the Vikings, Kevin O'Connell's coach of the year, Sam Donald's,
I saw there was a report that there, I mean, they're basically, they have to keep them
at this point. Yeah. Franchise tag him. He's been awesome and again it was like the end of that
game when you when you need a and I know Aaron Jones was was hurt but like still
you're like Sam Darnold is gonna win us this game throwing the ball in
situations where most teams would just try to run it up the middle three times
and hope they get a first down. Sam Darnold passed twice and yeah,
it was the thing that finally,
and I've already believed in Sam Darnold.
You remember we had that clip from three years ago
where PFT, you're like, I'm not done believing Baker.
And I was like, I'm not done believing in Sam Darnold.
So I've always had that in my head
where I'm like, ooh, Sam Darnold.
But that drive after the interception,
like that, nothing rattles him now.
Like, yeah, he made a bad throw.
Okay. And then he went right down the field
and was hitting everyone.
And it was five for five and scored a touchdown.
Yeah. It's like they haven't had a whole lot of games
where they've gotten Addison, Jefferson, and Hockenson
going at the same time.
All the sons.
And today they were all weapons.
And Naylor. Yeah. And Naylor. How about nailer, huh? Yeah
Their their offense is a problem is Aaron Jones hurt that was weird when he took himself out of the game
Yeah, and then cam anchors. Yeah was it was good. Okay, wait, so this is for Sam Darnold
He sets a record now. This is the most wins for a quarterback in
his, in his first season with a new team. Oh, wow. It's never
been done before 14 wins. And he wasn't supposed to be the sort
of quarterback going into this year. Yeah, I mean, good for
him. I wonder how good Daniel Jones is getting just like
absorbing that room and just being in that building. Because
right now, I feel like the room. They want to talk about that room. Yeah, that room.
You know, like Daniel Jones.
Yeah, I feel like that's a good room to be.
You get better just by living with, like,
in the same zip code as Kevin O'Connell.
Yeah, Kevin O'Connell is the QB Whisperer.
He's coach of the year, and he is
going to get paid a lot of money,
because I think he has like two years left on his contract. You've got to re-sign him right now. He's one of the year and he is gonna get paid a lot of money because I think he has like two years left on his
Contract you got to resign him right now
he's one of the best coaches in the NFL and that's he wins all the close games and the Vikings are a real threat and I
with the way the Lions have been injured like
The Vikings are I feel like they might win that game on Sunday and get the one seed which is crazy
They could they very easily could. So
yeah this is uh what was the stat that we said the other week there have been two 14 or four 14 win
seasons in the history of the Minnesota Vikings and KOC has two of them. Yeah uh yeah yeah because
the 98 season with uh when they went 15 and won that was then they lost the NFC
championship game to the Falcons. What do you think about the extravagant
defensive celebrations for the Vikings? Listen these guys got to have fun too.
Yeah this most recent one felt like it was like a minute and a half. It was
quite it was quite extravagant it was very well planned. The entire defense was involved. It's like
the movie baseball where the refs get involved with the dance
too. Yeah, just kept going. And it was also I was watching two
separate pregame shows today on NFL Network and ESPN. And they
both had long features on the Vikings touch our defensive
celebrations. That's when you know it's gotten pretty out of hand. It's
gotten pretty out of hand at this point, but I guess I guess
they're not going to stop it. So if they're having fun, good
job. Yeah. Okay. Let's wrap up before we do who's back of the
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take my row back question is Hank did you write a boomer? I
did. Can you read it to us in a monotone voice? Yeah. Yeah. Okay,
great. That's what we were hoping for.
I wrote that this is a rage boomer too.
So I haven't, I haven't gone back to it.
Wait.
So what was your, tell us your travel day again.
So people understand.
I will say this.
Listen, I was in, and I traveled from San Diego to Houston to New Orleans along the
way I had two flights get delayed.
My bag got sent to Frankfurt, Germany.
How does that happen?
Is it your golf clubs?
No, no, no, not my golf clubs, but it's close.
That's the thing.
The people, the people that I was with on the plane were so much more stressed out. And there was like a, uh, when I, we landed in Houston, the lady, cause we stopped and
we got, we just got stuck on the runway for like an hour and because they couldn't,
there was no open gates. I guess there's construction going on at the airport.
It was chaos.
And so when we finally get to a taxi, the lady like behind me was like,
does anyone have a connecting flight? And everyone,
like she was trying to like push up. Every single person was like, yeah,
like everyone was on edge.
There was a lady in front of me in a wheelchair.
And so I'm taking my time.
And there was people behind me, like being like, you know, run.
Like people were on edge sprinting through the airport, like really upset.
Like I was obviously like not loving it, but also not like, you know, perspective.
I was like, it's not that serious, not that big a deal.
And then I realized my my bag got sent to Frankfurt, Germany.
Uh, I'm pretty sure that the person in front of me was going to Frankfurt,
Germany. And like, when she scanned her thing, they just like gave me her tag
and put that on my bag. I don't really know. Um,
that was kind of what I came up with, but it's not, it's not that big a deal,
but it was like just a long day.
But the people people sprinting through the airport is kind of a funny
like people watching experience, like just people were flying.
People were upset.
The lady tried to push her way up the flight.
So I had a long day, whatever.
And then after all that, I was riding my boomer in the in the cab ride to my hotel.
OK. So what was in your bag that's in Germany? And then after all that I was riding my boomer in the in the cab ride to my hotel. Okay
So what was in your bag that's in Germany?
Just clothes that so it's like I actually had my boxers and my toiletries with me
So it's like all I need to do is go I need to go buy
And I have my laptop and stuff. So like all the expensive stuff I have with me
I the lady did kind of like make me check my bag. She was like, Oh,
can you just check it? Like it's a big bag. Like you have two
big bags. I was like, that's a carry on. She's like, Yeah, but
it's a full flight. Like just check it. I was like, where does
it go to? She's like, it goes to your final destination. I'm
like, All right, whatever. I wish I had like, push back shot
that down. But
that's just means that your your punishment is that you have to
go out in New Orleans and buy sick outfits.
Yeah, I'm going to go get some fits off tomorrow.
And yeah, I have having boxers and like toiletries in my laptop
and stuff.
It's really not too bad.
It was just a long.
The lady was like, I'm pretty sure she's like, well, this is
a near tag.
I'm like, it is my tag.
It's the tag that gave me whatever it was.
It was a long day.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Monotone.
Yeah.
Justin Herbert Hoover said, damn, that was smooth.
After a jazzy first quarter touchdown to Darius Miles Davis.
Drake Mayflower led a voyage down the field and connected with It's Amiya Demario Douglas for a touchdown.
In the second half, Lad McConkey said, I'll be your wish, I'll be your dream, I'll be your fantasy championship winning wide receiver,
scoring two touchdowns along with 94 yards to make a
lot of people very happy Patriots seven San Diego
Superchargers 40 this team could make some noise in the
playoffs boom. Oh, I like it. Hey, the Texans. That was very
good Hank. What did you think about the game? There was a lot
of booze.
It feels we discussed it earlier, but like, drawed mail, like he should be fired.
That was a good game. And from for a drawed mail getting out of town, like that was best case scenario.
I was with my brother. We were like, it was like that was kind of what we want to wear is like we were with my brother
and some of our friends who aren't Patriots fans and like, do you want them to win? We were like, we want them to get smoked. We want Drake made it play well, but
we want them to get smoked to the point where it's like, get
him out of town. Right? Right. That's what happened. Yeah. PFT.
Yeah, Hank. Do you think that Mr.
I can question. What's that?
Drake may got another concussion. Yeah. Yeah. Do you
think do you think Mr. Kraft was a little bit upset and wanted to call a timeout to hate
when all the fans were booing his coach?
He was probably upset, but that's probably like a good thing.
But yeah. Who is he upset about?
Do you think he's more upset at Mayo or do you think he was more upset as his fans?
Because I think he's got a he's he's, you know, I feel like rich guys, they're surrounded by yes men.
Situations like that, they force you to look in the mirror.
Craft is in that camp like Jerry Jones where I think embarrassment actually works.
That's what I'm saying.
They're surrounded by so many yes men that you literally can't look at anyone else but
the mirror when it's like oh fuck like this
Yeah, this is bad like George McCasky embarrassment doesn't work because if it did he would have quit
He would have like sold the team a decade ago, but like craft definitely is like this is bullshit
And yeah, I mean it that that was a perfect game for you
Minus the concussion minus Minus the concussion.
Which he came back.
Yeah, he did come back, but two concussions in a year, not ideal.
Yeah.
That deep ball that he threw to, what's his name, Pop?
DiMario.
Yeah, that was an awesome pass.
And for recognizing like, hey, free play.
Free play, yeah.
Savvy.
There's been enough of Drake May where you're
you're excited now, right? Like this is your guy. Yeah, we just
got to do it one more time. And then then we then we control we
have we have everything. You got to lose one more time, which I
think you're going to win that game. Yeah, I think I just
think the bills are gonna like wouldn't if you're if you're the
bills, you you should not start anyone right of any
significance. I just don't, I don't think like,
and I could be wrong. I don't think that the next season inter-divisional,
like that's a, I feel like that's a fan thing to think. Like, I don't,
like do you think Sean McDermott is that five head of a coach to be like,
we don't want our inter-divermott is that five head of a coach to be like, you don't want our
Interdivisional opponent to like get the first pick because that's gonna screw us in the future
Like he they have to they even if they think it they have to game plan to win
Here's here's where it comes to play. I agree with you
I don't think they go into the game being like we're gonna because you can't really tank in the NFL
You can't tell guys like we're going to try to lose. Right.
If it is close at all in like the fourth quarter,
I think that's what it's like. They'll just run the ball up the middle and be like, it's fine.
You know what I mean?
Like play as conservative as possible and not tank or try to lose.
But do everything that like lets the Patriots win the game.
Yeah, because the Giants, that game was you're watching.
You're like, all right, like if they are tanking, they're going to find.
But they just kept winning.
You can't do it.
You can't. The only time you can do it is like the second half of week 18.
That's really it, because guys are playing for their jobs.
And so and you also can do it in a situation where it's like
you can actively sit all your starters like the bills.
The bills aren't taking their playing. You know what I mean?
They're playing for something going forward.
So it's like they can sit all their starters and be like we're doing this for safety sake and lose that way.
But I think the issue is that Sean McDermott is a very good coach.
Yeah, of course. Backups are going to be playing hard obviously because this is their chance to prove something on tape.
And also they will have been coached up by a very, because this is their chance to prove something on tape.
And also, they will have been coached up by a very good coach who is coaching them to
win the game.
He's not going to like coach them to lose the game.
He's going to try to win the game with his second string players.
And Jared Mayo is not as good of a coach, but he's really trying to win the game.
Really trying.
But McDermott is, I think, a good enough coach where he could beat the Patriots with
very, very hungry second stringers.
Actually, this is what you should be hoping for, Hank, because it, Gerard Mayo has proven
that he's such a bad coach that if he's trying extra hard to win the game, that's probably
bad.
I feel like everyone knows he's just not right.
But if he but like it's like you're if you're But if he, but like, it's like,
you're, if you're trying that hard and you're bad at your job,
it's only going to amplify the bad,
like you don't want someone who's bad at their job trying like extra,
extra hard commitments. You want them to just,
just be. Yeah.
I would hope that the, like that decision has been made already.
Uh, I think, I think it was like, there's been three coaches that have the number
one pick that have actually like used it all time.
What do you, what was the coach that was the coach the year they ended up with
the number one pick that was still the coach the year they, you know, ended up with the number one pick
that was still the coach the next year.
I don't know that's that.
I mean, you refusede.
Look up that stat.
I mean, you might be right, but that seems like it's not enough.
Yeah, that doesn't.
Well, I guess we'll think about it. Not enough Yeah, that's
Well, I guess we'll think about it alright So only three teams drafting number one did it with the same head coach as the previous year the 77 times
That no, but it this is weird the I guess this is from a Twitter account that oh
Maybe it's because the Bears technically had the Panthers pick. Oh
That's probably why. That's exactly why. Yeah. $17,000, $10,000 bucks. The 1992 Indian
apolis Colts and the 2017 Cleveland Browns. Yeah. That's also not potentially a reliable source,
but it is the one that I saw. Okay. That works. It makes sense. If you have the number one pick,
your coach probably is getting fired. I don't know that that's like that's official
But but the Eberfluss thing is that that makes sense. It wasn't their pick. It was the Panthers pick. Yeah, so he were you know
Were the three teams Hank?
1977 Tampa Bay Bucks the 1992 Indianapolis Colts in the 2017 Cleveland Browns
Did the Cowboys not draft first after they went?
Again, this is Uncle Buck 200617.
So asterisk, asterisk.
Okay, asterisk.
Should we do who's back of the week?
Yeah.
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Hank, who's back of the week?
I mean, I'll just say it.
It's 1140.
I ordered like a hundred dollars of room service
when I got in this hotel room two hours ago
and it's not here yet.
I'm starting to get concerned. And I'm that's starving. That's back of the week. No my other who's back
We was club. I just needed to get that out there because I'm dying inside
My other is back. We was club hockey
Okay, because of
What team was it?
UNLV.
Yeah.
ACHAM1, which is club hockey, which is like every college has
their actual hockey team and the club hockey team,
which is kids that play in high school that get drunk
and play club hockey, which is fun.
They beat NCAA D1 defending national champions University
of Denver 76 76th.
In a shootout.
In a shootout, which is like, that is the dream.
That is like, that is why you play sports.
That's what it's all about.
Like a club hockey team beating the reigning
D one national champions is like, that's everything.
Yeah.
That is the coolest thing. To be fair,
I think club hockey is a little bit different than other club sports.
Oh, I think that I think that there's like D1 club is like higher.
I don't know exactly what it is, but I remember talking to a hockey person
who played club hockey and probably a club hockey person.
That's like, yeah, no club hockey is legit.
No club baseball is not legit.
I have my roommate baseball.
Wisconsin, I played baseball.
Yeah. And he would I would like he'd have a game
and he would like wake up at noon and like, don't you have a game?
He'd be like, yeah, I'm skipping today.
Oh, I have a lot of friends that play club hockey at UMass.
They would say it's legit.
I would. It is legit. I would, it is legit,
but like, it's still, it's a crazy upset. It's probably like club rugby because a lot
of schools, I won't have varsity rugby teams actually, like almost all of them don't have
varsity rugby teams, but the club level is like the highest that you can get besides
like four schools. So they're good players and it's probably the same for hockey. Like
you don't have a varsity program and you're in a good area.
You can still probably get good players, but it's not like, but you
don't know if he's not really a hockey hotbed.
I would imagine.
I mean, I'm a club.
I love club hockey's like shout out to clocky, but I like I don't I
don't I'm not going to like it's not.
It's crazy.
I'll talk to team beating the D1 national champions is an insane
story.
I don't I there's no world where it's not.
Yeah, it's not on boys are buzzing boys are buzzing for like
two years off that one.
Yeah, right.
Sure for life.
Absolutely.
All right, PFT year who's back?
We're just talking hockey today because my who's back is Alex Ovechkin.
He came back from his broken leg,
scored two goals in two games.
First was a sick empty netter.
Second one was more real goal,
but now he's 25 away from breaking
Gretzky's record.
So my original projection of January 23rd
in Edmonton that's been revised,
and I think I'm going to release my'm going to release my official my game.
I'll do it on Wednesdays.
Part of my take.
I'll pick out a game on the schedule where he's going to
break the record, but he could do it this year.
Yeah, Friday is part of my take.
We don't have a show on Wednesday.
That good point Friday is part of my take.
Happy New Year.
Yeah, happy New Year.
Alright, my who's back is bowl season.
Let's talk about some college football quarterfinals.
Also shout out the Pop Tarts bowl. That was awesome.
Everything they put into that, um, like the strawberry pop tart coming back from
the dead. I saw Eddie and Clem were down there. Our guys, it looked like the
coolest time. Also, anyone who's upset about Cam Ward is a loser and they're
just basically looking for something to be angry about Malik neighbors did the same thing last year. No one was upset about it. He played in until he
got a record and then he sat out. I guarantee you that the entire Miami team knew that Cam Ward was
going to play until he got the record and then sit. And I know that because I bet Iowa State,
because everyone was talking about how Cam Ward was not going to play the whole game.
So like it was not a surprise that he sat out and I get it.
People are like, oh, well, you're watching your guys battle out there.
He's also got millions of dollars on the line if he gets hurt.
Like I don't understand it.
There are people just coming around to the fact that bowl games are like,
they don't really mean anything and it's entertainment and it's like, it's, it's kind of stupid,
but it's also fun. Like I don't understand that. I don't understand why
people were mad at Kim work.
They had a fucking edible mascot on the field.
Right.
And we're mad at the guy for sitting out the second, not the whole game,
the second half, the second half of that game,
which was fun. And if, especially if you bet the over, because I feel like there
were 42 points scored in the first like six minutes of the game. Yes. Um, so
we're mad at a guy for, uh, putting literally tens of millions of dollars on
the line to not play in the second half. I right. I saw one guy say they should find them,
that the University of Miami should find Ken Ward. There's no way that everyone on that team didn't
know the plan. It just wasn't, it could not have been a surprise because again, I somehow heard
through the grapevine that was probably going to happen. How is that, there's just no way. And not only that, if you were a person
who complained about the college football playoff
being blowouts and in the same token
said Cam Ward sitting out is bullshit,
you make no sense to me.
Because this is what the college football,
like if you're like, oh, 12 teams is too many,
at least it's more games where guys aren't going to sit out.
And I have no problem with Ken Ward sitting out because guess what?
That's like these games ultimately don't mean anything when a guy's projected to go top
10 in the NFL draft.
Like he's got to take care of himself.
Every single person in that situation would do the same thing.
But the college football playoff at least makes it so more of these games that this
doesn't happen.
So you should you can't beat you can't argue both those sides in my mind.
That's when it's going to get weird is if somebody does that in a playoff game,
well, both rubella, he's transfer portal, but, uh,
a little bit different.
But if somebody is like projected to go high in the draft and doesn't want to
risk injury and playoff games, then they sit out.
Then I feel like that side would have like a little,
a little more to complain about because you're
playing for a national championship and the rest of
your team would probably like you to play in a meaningful
game. But yeah, the pop tarts bowl, who gives a fuck right
it out. Who gives a fuck if you played at all? I know. Well, he
wanted the record, which is cool. And also if you're a
Miami player, like you get to say that you were on the team
that had a record. That's pretty cool. If you're an offensive lineman, you're like,
yeah, I blocked for the record breaking quarterback. That's pretty awesome.
Yeah. Um, I think that means more probably in like 20 years than it does.
Like we didn't win the pop tarts bowl. Yeah. Although the pop tarts bowl is
awesome. Uh, all right. So, so any picks or thoughts because...
I was gonna say one other thing from the bowl weekend. The confetti stuck to Matt Rule's face.
I think it's still there. I don't know how they got that many pieces. That was a bad boy
mower game, right? No, that was the Pinstripe bowl.
Pinstripe bowl. And his daughter looked so embarrassed to be next to him
When he had like nine just like take him off your face dad
But that was fun good for for Rayola good for Will Compton. Yeah
Nebraska's back go big red
All right. So max are you he's still thinking about the Packers. Are you at all worried about Boise State?
he's still thinking about the Packers. Are you at all worried about Boise State?
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, no.
Yes, because it's Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl.
That's why I'm nervous about Boise State.
Because of the history.
That makes sense.
Correct.
I lost so much on that game when I was, I don't know,
I was probably like 19 years old. It was like Oklahoma versus Boise State. I think Penn State's
easy draw is adding to the confusion for Max of how come the Eagles don't get the same easy draw.
Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. I think, I think you'll be okay. I do think Ash and Jenny will do well. I'm rooting for him to do well.
I the game I'm actually most excited.
Well, the Rose Bowl is going to be awesome.
I think I'm going to take Ohio State in that game,
and it's mostly based on the uniforms that Oregon picked.
I didn't really like them.
I thought they should have done more classic.
Oh, I love them. You love them.
Love them. I don't know the Rose Bowl.
I need classic uniforms, love them? Love them. I don't know the Rose Bowl. I need classic uniforms. No, but we don't. Ohio State, Oregon.
No, with Oregon, it's like the crazier the uniforms are.
They're almost more Oregon.
Yeah, I could see that.
I'm going to probably take Ohio State in that game.
I'm probably going to take Notre Dame in the Georgia game.
And then I'm very excited for Arizona State, Texas, because I don't know
if you guys saw Sam Levitt like basically doing the thing you're not
supposed to do with Bolton board material and being like I'm gonna prove
that I'm the best quarterback in this game something about Arizona State and I
feel like I feel like they're gonna run shark wheel to start the game I don't
know I feel like it could happen are we counting just a normal wheel route as being shark any
wheel route? I'll just say it's shark wheel. Okay. Yeah. That's
all. Yeah, it's it's all it takes. But are you guys like
what games by the way, we're streaming the the January 1st
game. So we'll be in the gambling cave for those. I'm
leaning towards Michigan or sorry, not Michigan, Georgia. I
don't know what you're shooting towards Michigan. Or sorry, not Michigan, Georgia. I don't know what's going on here. I'm leaning towards Georgia, yeah, against Notre Dame.
I don't know.
I feel like the athletes that they have,
especially on defense, like when they play well,
they're really-
They're so schizophrenic.
You just don't know if you're gonna get
good Georgia or bad Georgia.
Yeah, Notre Dame's defense is good.
And they did lose, I think they lost one of their good
defensive linemen, which definitely hurts.
I don't know, these games are going to rock.
Like everyone who complained about the first round, I think we're going to get some great
games.
I really do.
The over in Texas, Arizona State too.
Just waiting for points and chaos.
Yeah, the early game on January 1st.
I'm just, and the fact that Rose Bowl, like a classic Rose Bowl, I know they're two big
10 teams, but that's going to be awesome. I'm so excited for that. Anything else? Oh Georgia memes. You gonna win
this game? Yeah. Okay there it is. No I think it's gonna be a good game. Notre
Dame losing their defensive end is huge. Mass yeah yeah I'm a little worried
about Mike Bobo I saw his press conference I wasn't fired up about that
why what did he say he gave a pub up speech he got her stocked in it he that
said I told him to just be him and I'll be me and you just be you and Kirby Kirby
We've got to do it. So when you when you're public speaking, just saying your names.
Yeah.
No, slightly worried about my problem, but I think I'll get it done.
OK, anything else we got?
Well, like I said, we have no show Wednesday.
We'll be back in person, though, on Thursday.
We'll recap all of the games.
We'll have a show on Friday.
We'll be back in studio previewing week 18. Congrats again, PFT on making
the playoffs. Thank you, Max. Maybe playing the Packers is
going to be tough. We can do this, Max. I also I'm through
my research. I will be a hard commander's hater. Yeah, you
gotta be a Cowboys fan. Yeah, you gotta be a Cowboys fan.
Yeah, you gotta be a Cowboys fan. I get no, no, no, no. I'm
saying research. I'm no, no, I'm saying in the Rams
commander's game. Why? Because then you if the Rams win that
game, the Eagles would avoid if the Eagles beat the Packers and
the and the Rams beat the commanders, then the Eagles would avoid. If the Eagles beat the Packers and the
Rams beat the commanders, then the Eagles avoid the Vikings or Lions.
Hmm, got it.
Hmm. Yep. Yeah.
I'm kind of back in on that on that scenario.
Yeah, because then the commander to be the lowest seed still
available.
Correct. So the Viking. No, wait, you're right. So Ram beat the
commanders, then and the Eagles when the seven seed the Packers
get eliminated. Correct. The commanders are now the lowest
seed. So they would have to play against the number one seed.
Yeah, yes. And the and the Yes. But you could play the Bucks too, Max.
No, but I'm saying if the Ram.
You gotta beat good teams in the playoffs.
Max, you gotta beat good teams in the playoffs.
That's something you're starting to realize.
It's crazy how fast you turned.
No, you gotta beat everyone.
You should be expecting to beat, like, you're
going to play the one seed.
Like, you're realistically going to play the one seed at some point. So you're going to have to beat them. You should be expecting to beat that. You're going to play the one seed like you're realistically going to
play the one seed at some point. So you're going to have to beat
them. Yeah.
Listen, you know what I say? Anyone anytime, anywhere. Yeah.
Yeah, that's good. You're ready for the playoffs. Yeah.
That's a team that has no aspirations to do anything.
Except for beat the best teams.
Super Bowl. Max, you want to- Max, you want to be handed a Super Bowl.
Max, you want to play against the Denver Broncos in the Super Bowl.
Max, you want to beat-
I will know that.
You have to root for the Cowboys on Sunday. You realize that.
You're a Cowboys fan on Sunday.
Yeah, I don't know. We'll say no. We'll play who's in front of us. Give me the pack.
I'm worried about
The one thing that really does suck about this is if the Packers beat the Eagles I am just completely
Taking all the joy that I would have of a max loss is just completely gone. Like I'll be just as miserable as max
I'll be happy
We can do this together max Max. We're gonna do this
together. I'm gonna put a bomb on the Eagles. The Packers go to the numbers. Bob Salah since
last time they played. It's true. Jalen hurts had his worst game against them last year.
Oh, wow. But I'm on your side if you play the Packers because he's on there.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah, let's kick it to ourselves.
Let's do numbers and we'll see everyone on Friday.
Okay, last numbers of the year.
Numbers.
Three.
Eleven.
Twenty-five.
Seventeen.
Seventy-one. Wait, Jack, what was your number? 17 70 I don't like what you did
71
Wait Jack what was your number?
15
54
54
Love you guys
The entire year.
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