Pardon My Take - We're Back In Studio, College Football Playoff Recap, Week 17 In The NFL And Who's Back Of The Week

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

We're back in studio ready to recap all the football we watched the past 5 days. We start with the College Football Playoffs and 2 weird but great games leading up to Washington vs Michigan next Monda...y Night. We then Talk about every game from Week 17 (00:00:00-00:25:33) Cowboys 20, Lions 19 (00:25:33-00:48:00) Ravens 56, Dolphins 19 (00:48:00-00:53:57) Saints 23, Bucs 13 (00:53:57-00:57:15) Rams 26, Giants 25 (00:57:15-01:02:26) Colts 23, Raiders 20 (01:02:26-01:05:50) Texans 26, Titans 3 (01:05:50-01:07:51) 49ers 27, Commanders 10 (01:07:51-01:15:12) Bills 27, Patriots 21 (01:15:12-01:20:42) Bears 37, Falcons 17 (01:20:42-01:30:51) Jaguars 26, Panthers 0 (01:30:51-01:36:35) Cardinals 35, Eagles 31 (01:36:35-01:53:19) Steelers 30, Seahawks 23 (01:53:19-01:55:23) Broncos 16, Chargers 6 (01:55:23-01:56:38) Chiefs 25, Bengals 17 (01:56:38-02:00:19) Packers 33, Vikings 10 (02:00:19-02:05:18) We then finish with who's back of the week. (02:05:18-02:16:47)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, part of my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we are back in studio with all the boys. It is a Tuesday part of my take. So we're going to talk college football playoffs first. No boomers this week because we're starting with college football. Then we're going to talk about the entire weekend and all the NFL of week 17. We are also going to do who's back.
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Starting point is 00:03:19 And then we'll take it higher Oh we're gonna rock it down too E-L-E-S-R-E-L-S It's harded my take. There's enough of our sports. Welcome to part of my take today is Tuesday, January 2nd, and it is Michigan and Washington in the college football finals in the championship game next Monday night. We just watched two playoff games that were varying degrees of frustrating and incredible, all bundled into one PFT. I don't even know what to say.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I think they go back and played at the Rose Bowl. I'm surprised you didn't start with this. It's going to be Washington, Michigan, the big 10, gonna be Washington and Michigan the big 10. Yes representing America the big National Championship. Yes. Well, no, I I really do think they should just replay the game at the Rose Bowl because Washington and Michigan is a Classic pack 12 big 10 matchup for the last time it could happen. Yeah, I do have one take and this I might be a Prisoner at the moment right here, but Michael Pinnix should be the first quarterback taking the draft. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Michael Penex is so fucking good. And I have watched him all season. So I know the ups and downs of Michael Penex. He was so good tonight. I think this might be the best college football performance from a quarterback I've seen in a very long time. He was like going back to Cam Newton. He was dropping Dimes everywhere.
Starting point is 00:04:44 He was incredible. Let's start with the Michigan Alabama game. And then we'll talk about more about Michael Penex and the Texas comeback that was the weirdest come back and the clunkiest comeback of all time. But Michigan Alabama, so that was our first game. It was a tough game to watch for a while there. And then it turned into the fourth quarter
Starting point is 00:05:05 where it became thrilling. And the reason why I say tough is, it looked like both teams were feeling each other out and playing very sloppy offense of football. I mean, even the first play, Jay-Jama McCarthy tried his best to throw an interception. Yeah, should have been picked off.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Should have been picked off. You had miscuses and special teams. And it felt like Alabama had the game in hand in that. I think it was the start of the fourth quarter when they were up maybe four. I think, yeah, I think it was 17 13 and Jalen Milro fumbled the ball. And even though Michigan didn't get any points off that, it felt like that was the moment Alabama was going to take control and step on their throat. And Michigan, it was like a reversal because it was at first.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Alabama was hanging around, hanging around. They got dominated in the first half. And then it was Michigan hanging around, hanging around, just keeping it close enough. And they end up the winner in overtime. I thought Milro stunk today. Yeah. Milro looked a lot like old Milro. And not new Milro. And it was, it was frustrating for An Alabama fan he couldn't even connect on like a five six yard pass. Everything looked a little bit out of sorts
Starting point is 00:06:12 Michigan was able to lean on a little bit like Corbms really good. It was a lean off because Alabama felt like they were Leaning on Michigan for a while. Yeah, the big boys up front did their job on both sides So from that perspective you could look at that first app and say, oh, that's just great, hard knows football. If you take out the skill position players, if we're just, it was great line play in the first half. Locking and tackling was great. It was pretty good overall. And then, yeah, Millro just, he couldn't, he couldn't figure it out. He wasn't able to use his legs as much as he usually likes to. He also has like negative pocket awareness. Yeah. So when, when Michigan was blitzing, they were doing a pretty good job of waiting until the ball was snapped to show who was going to blitz.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And then Milro would just be looking in the opposite direction, not see the blitz coming, getting sacked for infinity yards. It happened to McCarthy too. Yeah. Yeah. No, Jason McCarthy did not look good either. He had bad pocket awareness today, but yeah, we had a great handshake afterwards between Nick Sabin and Harbaugh. Who do you think is the alpha in that handshake?
Starting point is 00:07:09 I feel like it's, Harbaugh has never lost a handshake. Yeah, today it was, it was Jim Harbaugh because Michigan like outlasted them. And it was, for a while there, it felt like it was gonna just be the glaring example of special teams mattering and special teams being a third
Starting point is 00:07:25 of the game because people say it all the time, but I think we all are like, come on, is it really a third of the game? But Alabama almost won this game with just special teams because it was their kicker kicking two 50 yarders and their punter. I think he average 50. He had a long of 62 and he had four of them inside the or five of them inside the 20 and it was like that was for a while That was the game it was field position and Alabama just doing a better job with special teams and Michigan fumbling Yeah, and it turnover on the front and I love whenever they show that punter They're just like 6 2 2 40 Australian. Yeah, you got to say that when he stepped up there But he was he was like the best player on the field for Alabama for most of the game
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah, and Michigan had a they had a fumbled Punt and then they had the their punt return or try to catch a punt from the one yard line with like 30 seconds left If I'm Jim Harbock going in the next week I think that's the one thing you might consider is maybe firing the special teams coordinator. I'm going to look them up. Let's see who it is. Let me see. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I just wonder where Conor Stallion's was during this game. All right. So it's probably sweat and somewhere. Michigan's special teams coordinator. I don't know how he pronounced this last name. Jay Herba. Herba. Her.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Jay Harba. Jay Harba. Okay. Michigan's special teams coordinator. Yeah. Maybe that might be tough. So yeah, there's any relation. He's probably gonna fire him. That's gonna be a very difficult conversation.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Well, after the debacle they had on Special Teams. I don't know if you can blame so much of it on the Special Teams coordinator as you can just blame it on the players. Well, you could just be like, hey, can you remind the punt returners and not try to catch them upon at the one yard line? Yeah, can you actually, can you remind your players to do a better job blocking long field goals? Well, they also missed a kick
Starting point is 00:09:11 and they botched a snap on that extra point that ended up giving it the overtime. So least valuable player goes to Alabama Center who couldn't figure it out. And then I don't know what to make of this, but he had, I think, two consecutive snaps where he just bounced it back to the quarterback, and then he started throwing his hands up
Starting point is 00:09:29 and trying to blame it on someone else. That's the one position. It kind of sucks if you're a center. You can never blame your miscues on somebody. If you have a bad snap, it's because you fucked up. Yeah, there's really no way out of that. And it was all game. It felt like all game we were watching low snaps.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And yeah, it was, it was all game. It felt like all game we were watching low snaps. And yeah, it was, it did, it was an ugly game for the first three quarters. And it turned in to be a classic because anytime you get a college football playoff over time game at the Rose Bowl, it's hard not to be romantic about football. The one thing I would change, I would like the overtime game to be the second game because the overtime game, then it would, it would have been like 2 a.m. But did they delay the start of the second game? It might have been a few minutes. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:10:08 If you're going to push it back, at least have us end on the overtime game. Yeah, that's true. You don't think about so much because in the second game, I just kept looking at the clock being like, I'm old, this is too late. I don't know why they did.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Why couldn't these games have been two o'clock and six o'clock? Also, too many commercials. This is our old section of the show. Although I tweeted too many commercials, everyone's like, no, that's not an old tweet. That's just, there's way too many commercials. Well, a big deal is the sunset at the Rose Bowl, right? So you push it earlier, you might not get true.
Starting point is 00:10:35 The sunset was magnificent. Yeah, it was a beautiful sunset. My star of the game was the sun. Yeah, the sun was actually wreaking havoc in the first half. Yeah, that that that caused one of the fumbles. Yeah, Hank, you cosplayed as a Michigan fan today. I did. I was great. Great. Great day to be a Michigan Wolverine. Yeah, big 10 back. I'm excited for next week. Are you gonna be a Michigan fan next week? Yeah, gonna keep it rolling. It was the first
Starting point is 00:11:01 first time I pledged my allegiance to a school and actually won so it was nice nice to win one the Tom Brady connection. Yeah, it's pretty nice They poor no I tailed the one suck up a journal suck up thing. I I What did I do when we went to Wisconsin? I'm just saying you know Hey, what is a Wolverine look like? He's got like he claws that come out of his hands. I'm anti him. Yeah, he can't die Really good at recovery on injuries Logan can't go through airport security. Yeah, he's the leader of the X-Men Yeah, I think you nailed it. Thank you good for good for Jim Harbaugh though. Yeah America's team America's team everyone I'm happy for him harbor. I love Jim Harbaugh. I always love Jim Harbaugh
Starting point is 00:11:44 Even if he goes coaches the chargers or something. He's I don't know. He just I Said it before the game if they just suddenly right before kickoff were like hey, we have a new rule Co head coaches can play can take snaps in this game How many snaps you think Jim harbor would have taken he would put himself on the kickoff team? Just run down there. He looks so jacked up. He was amped up And I also loved the the quotes that he was given before like in the immediate day where they were talking about You know how he builds his team his philosophy and he goes you know I think we model ourselves after Jesus. He would have been Jesus would have been five star recruit no doubt in my mind
Starting point is 00:12:22 Jesus was literally a one star recruit that's kind of the entire point of this work. There was a giant star that appeared out of nowhere. No, yeah, the five star is like after the fact. Yeah. When you try to upgrade it and be like, look, our recruiting was so good, we had them at a five star.
Starting point is 00:12:36 No, they developed them. Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. The other sites, you know, they have like rivals. Yeah. And then they'll be competing sites. They'll be a competing site.
Starting point is 00:12:44 They'll be like, no, we actually had them five star We we look at us. Yeah, like subscribe to our service. We can pick these guys out Jesus was one star maybe a walk on and then they just did a great job developing the talent right He had a red shirt ear At by the end of it was really able to move the rock. Mm-hmm. It's a good player My only other note as a Michigan fan in a Michigan bar was when orgy the backup quarterback came in the whole bar just or G or G like it was all it was a whole channel like what is going on? He ran one play. Yeah, they bring them in for trick play, but they but people it worked it people love their
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah, you get to wear a pineapple on his on his shirt also shout out Jay Jamikarty googling how to beat depression Yeah, it's pretty good pretty solid advice. It was moment, though, because they showed his pregame and he was, uh, Trilator he was doing like meditation under the goalpost and our entire, uh, gambling cave was like, what a loser. It's like, we're just a bunch of dudes just sitting around gambling way too much money on these games, eating way too much food. And we're like, this fucking dude, who's an incredible athlete playing in the Rose Bowl. He thinks he's got it all figured out.
Starting point is 00:13:50 If you Google how to beat depression, check out BetterHelp. Yeah, that's a fact. So yeah, Michigan marches on, and then we had Washington, Texas. What do you say? Guess the line. I think it's going to be like four. I think Michigan minus five and a half. I guess I guess around four. Let's see. It's pulled up. It's going to be a lot of Michigan fans.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I feel like that was going to be what do you got? You got it? No. No. I am. Mike on. We don't have to race. We'll find it. I would guess Michigan around four. So now we have Washington who that was a weird game. Because it felt like Washington could have won by a million if they wanted to. Hennings was just the best player on the field by far. Dropping just balls into a bucket just dimes everywhere. They kept on trying to run, which they couldn't do. That's the one thing Texas can just shut you down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And then we get like, there was two moments. One was when I think it was like eight minutes left, Washington was up, what was it, 10? No, they were up line. Someone's got it for me. Were they up 10? No. Lines for and a half, by the way.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Oh, line is for and a half. Okay, so that's what was washing it up before Texas scored their touchdown. Well, they were up 13 21 13 right because 13. Yeah, it's shark didn't go for two but they're up 13 and they did they did like back-to-back trick plays With like eight minutes left. I'm like this is kind of weird and they punted and then Texas scored and yes, shark should have gone for two I don't know how no one says anything because the situation is they're down 13 He kicks the extra point to go down six Why not go for two best case scenario down five a field goal doesn't kill you worst case scenario
Starting point is 00:15:38 You miss it and you're you're down seven like that that's a no brainer go for two situation that he just missed Yeah, every coach has a chart that says what you do in that situation. He just didn't look at the chart. He just didn't look at the chart because then Washington quote unquote killed them with a field goal to go back up nine. We thought it was over and then Texas went and got a field goal. And then the weirdest thing ever at the end of the game. That was so sure.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I felt bad for for Washington fans that were watching that. Just the idea of them losing that game because they're running back at hurt on a fluke play and then there's a the clock stops so they get a bonus time out and said to get the ball back with 20 seconds left or 19 seconds left. Texas got the ball back with what 50 yeah 50 seconds left and then credit to yours he threw a great ball but Quinn yours did not play good today. No, I, I started like as a joke, we were saying the gambling cave, put an archmanning. Yeah. By the end of it, I was like, put an archmanning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Like, let's see what the cake can do because yours did not play his best game. And he did have that one nice long bomb. And then the, uh, the very last play of the game, credit to defensive back. That was a great play that he made. It was a great play. And it was, it was, it was just a weird clunky game for Texas offense where they never, it felt like they never really got a rhythm. And everything looked so easy for Washington.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And like every to even when they got a little bit of rhythm, they'd have a, you know, a fumble or a big sack. And it was just, yeah, Texas, I feel like Texas is going to walk away being like, that was a game we could have wanted if we just they just never felt comfortable It's crazy. They could have won it But they definitely also got outplayed. Yeah, no, no I'm saying yeah, they like they could have won at the end. Washington was a better team. It better team won't get me wrong But Texas it felt like Texas had more miss the mistakes
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yes, look at it and be like man, I regret that because Washington's defense was phenomenal That was the big bugaboo all year. Washington's defense, they were all up in the backfield. They were all over Quinn, yours all game. Washington's defense is completely transformed and played great football last month. There was something weird with the timing too between yours and his wide receivers. He probably had six or seven passes that he threw before his receivers were. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:43 He's turning around to look at the ball. Yeah, they just looked off. Like, yeah. Never had a rhythm. You know what? My start of this game goes to the ESPN producers that put a live camera on Bourbon Street and then there was a movie that slipped out. Yeah. Great job, guys. If you're going to put a live camera anywhere in America, let's just go to Bourbon Street.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Nothing bad is going to happen there. Also, there was a, there was like a kid in a stroller. I don't know if it was a lady's kid. Credit to her if she was flashing with one hand and pushing the stroller with the other, but there was a baby like right underneath her. Probably saw that was like, that's dinner. Yeah, that's dinner, right there.
Starting point is 00:18:15 We also had the great story about Ryan Grubb, the offense coordinator for Washington, who quit football and was living in his sister's laundry room. Pouring cement, living in his sister's laundry room. Pouring cement, living in his sister's laundry room, that guy's cheap. If you're pouring cement, you have enough money to have your own apartment. This guy was just trying to save money, I'm sure, but also I can't think of a worse place to live. I've never been in a spacious laundry room before.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Yeah. Like they always have the folding door. Usually has the slats on it. He was just sleeping on a dryer. Yeah. So football guy football guy and he called a great game. I mean, they I honestly think of Washington. It just been like, we're not going to run at all this game.
Starting point is 00:18:54 They probably could have put up 60 probably every past work except at the end of the game. They don't know. To board doesn't know how to run out of clock. Yeah. He could not do that to save his life. This was the most obvious run the clock down run the ball run the ball Run the ball take the play clock down every single play and he just refused to do it So that it was kind of weird that Texas got back in at the very end
Starting point is 00:19:13 But the reason they had that opportunity to begin with was because the board doesn't understand how time works Yeah, in Washington's I mean they've been doubted all year 14 and oh We got an undefeated versus undefeated. It's gonna be awesome. I also have to live with the regret of caching out of my Washington future. Which I've said it before. I'm a gambler.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Los bats, win bats, make mistakes. On to the next one. Yeah. You can't get hung up on it. I did it because I thought Oregon was better. I was wrong. I fucked up. It's gonna be good.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It's gonna be a good championship. I'm excited. Great chance. Two teams we haven't seen in there in a very long time. Yeah, it'll be interesting. I feel like I'm leaning Michigan, but I've also been put that's I've been disrespecting me personally. If you're looking for somebody in the media that's been disrespecting Washington, hand up. I've been I feel bad about disrespecting. Yeah, I feel like everyone's gonna be leaning Michigan and that's exactly where Washington wants to be Yeah, because that's every single game they played there were underdogs against Oregon who they'd be yeah It's just every single game and so I might just have to bet on Washington and shit little money just no
Starting point is 00:20:18 Oh, yeah, I forgot your go blue your Michigan fan. What was that? It was Wolverine claw. That was there you go. We worked. We'll thought we'll thought you'll still don't see yeah. Yeah. All right. Memes. Take care of that. It's it's going to be. It's a great match up to because it's like Michigan's defense is the best unit on the field. Well, the Michigan's defense is obviously way better than I shouldn't say way better better than Washington's defense. But Michael Penex is so much better than Jason McCarthy. It might crazy to think that he's gonna be
Starting point is 00:20:47 a first round pick. Yeah. Well, no, he could be a first round pick because the problems with Michael Penex and I don't wanna be nitpicky, but he's 24. Yeah. So like there is always the, are you good at college football because you're now been playing it for so long,
Starting point is 00:21:03 Bonyx kind of thing, and his injury history. And he's a lefty, which some people can't get over. I think it's absolutely worth, I think he could absolutely be a good pro. But he's 24 because of the injury history. Right, but you know what I'm saying? When you're 24 and you're playing against 18 and 19 year olds, are you good because you've been playing college football for this?
Starting point is 00:21:21 There's also the school of thought of, if you're 24, this is as good as you're going to get. He's pretty fucking good. No, he's really got just strictly from a passing performance night. Like I haven't seen a quarterback in college football, deliver strikes like that consistently over the course of a full game in a very long time. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm wrapped up in it right now, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:40 That didn't seem flukey to me. No, I, I, I, he's legit. I think he, I think he will be will be a good starting quarterback in the NFL I don't know if a team will take a first round pick with him, but Maybe we could pull up a mock draft. I don't know where he's he's mocked. Those are always exactly correct I've been looking on tank of thought. Oh, where they got a 40 see they have Jay-Jim McCarthy 42 and Michael Panics 43 That just feels like it's age and injury because Michael Panics has played so much better than J.J. McCarthy 42 and Michael Panics 43. That just feels like it's an age in injury. Because Michael Panics has played so much better than J.J. McCarthy, who do they have with those?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Who's played well? They haven't gone to the Vikings. That actually makes sense. Yeah, that'd be good. Same colors. So with lefty quarterbacks, when they're in college, I love lefty quarterbacks. When they're in the NFL, that person's a witch.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yeah, that looks like witchcraft. It's hard for your brain to understand. But isn't also harder for defenses to intercept a lefty quarterback. It's harder for your Why do I know that's not but they don't think about the fact that it's hard for a safety to catch true The spin of the spin of the ball. Yeah, I'm looking at tankathon right now. It's a it's a beautiful sight Yeah, there's some I mean bears first commander second Patriots third. Yeah, The draft runs through us. Draft runs through us.
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Starting point is 00:25:50 even though it was less than 24 hours ago as we're taping this, it feels like it was a million years ago because we've got so much other football going on, traveling, everything. Every time a new sport happens, it pushes something I remember about an old sport out of my brain. Yeah, I mean, there's like a little time capsule for myself and we talked about this weekend of NFL before we did it. For me, it was Red Zone Sunday. Did you do Red Zone Sunday?
Starting point is 00:26:13 I didn't. I actually was able to get. So we were in Arizona. Max and Jake are going to be joining us in a minute. So they're going to be here for the first few games that we do. Don't worry. We will not do the Eagles recap without Max. So if you don't hear him, that's why. I didn't, I was, so we were still in Arizona. P.A.T. and I flew back this morning. I was able to set up, it was, it was like, I felt like a real degenerate because I basically took
Starting point is 00:26:38 my kids to the park all morning, went to party city, got, I feel like I got robbed because they just walked in, it was like my two kids and then I had my niece and my nephew and they walked in, grabbed so much stuff. I was like, let's get out of here. It was like $200 worth of shit and not one actual like item that was worth anything. Yeah, it was like beads and like the fucking noise makers.
Starting point is 00:27:00 So anyway, so I get back at 11 o'clock for the kickoff mountain time and I went into my bedroom I had a TV on I had my laptop open. I had six different little tiny Things on YouTube TV and then an iPad as well So I was able to see all the game, but just on tiny little but the smallest screens ever Yeah, you had no idea you probably couldn't even see colorberry. Yeah, no, I was like there's a there's a ghost running through the Philadelphia Secondary. Yeah, but so you went red zone
Starting point is 00:27:24 I went red zone. I went over to my old college professor, professor majors. He's my comedy writing professor at JMU. He lives in Arizona, went over to his house, hung out with him, watched red zone with him and his wife. I had to make a call. It's like, okay, we were supposed to go out for a hike, but then I remembered, oh yeah, it's Sunday.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It's NFL Sunday. He was very understanding. So we were like, okay, let's just watch Red Zone. But as a compromise, I'm not going to be on my phone tweeting the entire time. Okay. I will be present in the review while I'm staring at the red zone screen. Right. That's good.
Starting point is 00:27:54 But being, yeah, doing red zone, it's, it's nice man. It's football crack. Well, there was, there was, it was actually because there was 10 games. So I, I was actually on red zone for about 10 minutes, because I was still out with the kids, so I was like, oh, fuck, it's 11 o'clock, games are starting mountain time. Scott Hanson, you could tell, he's like, we got 10 games, so much action.
Starting point is 00:28:13 There's a few games that you could just not pay attention to. Yeah, there was a few games that you just could be like, that game is over. It's actually a terrible game. Three games on here that they didn't really show on Red Zone. Which was good. Which was good, and all the highlights from those games came from things that happened off the field right right so But we we will start and we will we will go through all these games will start with Saturday night
Starting point is 00:28:35 Which actually PFT and I were we finished the Arizona Bowl and we drove back from Tucson to Scottsdale And I brought my kids iPads we watched the game in the car together, driving back, which was great because we were basically doing a podcast for Megan Fonda, Jerry Jones. Like we were doing a live podcast just the two of us in the car. Mike McCarthy, it'll never be released. If you're wondering where the tweets of Big Cat was sending
Starting point is 00:28:59 during that game where those written and posted well, he was striving and watching the game. The answer is yes, yes they were. Well, we have to he was holding the i-pad yeah we were i was on the i-pad which is just as dangerous as driving well listen the the the Arizona highways are great you can go you go eighty five there's no one on the road it was great but yeah we were we were making fun of the the ring we were we watched the uh... the ring ceremony what is it the re-border
Starting point is 00:29:23 uh... i i like gerry john or jimmy johnson i like jimmy johnson great is a cool the ring ceremony, what is it? The ring of honor. I like Jimmy Johnson. I like Jimmy Johnson. It's great. Is a cool guy. It's sad that he has to represent the Cowboys. They shouldn't get anybody that cool and likable, but it was such a good moment when he went out there and he made me like, he made me like the Cowboys for about 15 minutes. And he had that line where he was just like in the Cowboy fans, like we gave you something
Starting point is 00:29:42 to be proud of. And like it was just, he basically was like we gave you 30 years of unearned arrogance after what we did in the 90s. Yes. That's the last time we were really good. But we so we watched the game, controversial game, we should just jump right into a Dan Campbell at the end of the game, two point conversion. The lions go down the field.
Starting point is 00:30:03 It was actually a really well played game. Both defense is showed up. I thought the Lions defense was very impressive and the Cowboys defense was pretty good as well. But anyway, the two point conversion with Taylor Decker, the play that works and then they call the ineligible, they call Taylor Decker ineligible because 70 reported and not 68 and Essentially everything I've read from this is the refs just got confused by Dan Campbell's own Trickeration that he tried to explain to them before the game. So he talked to the refs He said he explained it to a T before they went out there You can see Decker goes up to the ref. He says something to him the ref nods
Starting point is 00:30:41 Then number 70 comes on right and number 70 runs at the ref to and the ref kind of looks at him and runs away and then the ref immediately says over the loudspeaker number 70 has reported reported as eligible before they snap the ball so the ref was confused by everything even though Dan cable did explain it but if you look at the formation Taylor Dacker was eligible right the eligible guy at the end. So it was a great play. Ballsie call. It worked. And then the crazy part, which I actually like, yes, they backed it up. Yes, they backed it up because of the ineligible receiver. And Dan Campbell said, fuck it. I'm going to go for two again. Crazy, crazy. Thank you. From the 7th. From the 7th. It's insane. It's there's no way that it makes sense
Starting point is 00:31:24 except for the fact that he's letting his players know like we're in pocket mode well so i was thinking about it more because obviously the reaction from everyone watching the game the media everyone's like you don't do that you kick the extra point you go to over time and i was thinking about it more i think dan Campbell it's crazy to all of us i don't think it's crazy at all to his players. No, because I think he tells his players before the game. Here's the plan. If we're ever in this situation, we're going for two. We're trying to win this game.
Starting point is 00:31:51 This is how I'm coaching. So like all those guys are gung ho, ready to go. Like it, what it's not a surprise to them. Yeah. When he says get back out there, go for two again. So I think it's weird for us, but for them, they're like, no, this is how our coach coaches. And my whole thing is, because people kept on bringing up like, well, you didn't like it when Brandon Saley did it.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Brandon Saley stopped being consistent. Brandon Saley was awesome his first year, because he was aggressive. And then he started doing like a wishy washy. When Dan Campbell's aggressive and consistently aggressive, I'm all for it, because you know what you, you know the type of coach he's gonna coach. It's when guys go like back and forth and they're like, oh, maybe I won't be aggressive. He went for the the fake punt. He went for it on fourth down the goal line in the first half. He goes for it for two twice because they actually ended up going for it. What it was off sides. It
Starting point is 00:32:40 was off sides then it was like the third three-yard line. Yeah, I think it was it was half the play that almost worked as well Yeah, so yeah, we're on the same page like as crazy as it seems I think Dan Campbell in that locker room. They know that this is how they're they're getting coached They know they're gonna be aggressive like go for yeah, I don't mind at all It's it's telling your players like we're in fucking mode. This is what we do you can you can like live with the fact that you got Fucked by the refs and you still tried to win the game and you couldn't do it. You can live with that if you're a Detroit lines player. Yeah. You're happy. You're not happy with the way it turned
Starting point is 00:33:10 out, but you're happy with the way that you compete it until the very end of it. And yeah, Dan cable, you know that he's going to call that fake punt in the first half. He doesn't care if it's on his own twenty three yard line or whatever. He's got that ready to go. It's probably going to work. If'm a lion's player, I'm not I'm not looking back on this game and saying I wish we could have done certain things differently It's like you have the valid excuse that they got fucked right and and so the actual play I'm a little Maybe don't make a play that's so confusing the ref could fuck it up now I'm not taking the ref is a fucking asshole. It sounds like a victim blame.
Starting point is 00:33:45 No, the ref is an asshole, the ref deserves 95% of the blame. But there is like 5% of me that's like, just like if it's that, it confusing, that you have to explain to them and then they still got confused. So the refs are part-time employees. That's what we always forget, right? They're part-time, this is not their full-time job.
Starting point is 00:34:02 It's like going to Wendy's and asking for very specific instructions on your cheeseburger and be like, let me get one tomato. Yeah. I want one tomato slice on there. And then the person that's making 725 an hour comes back, there's three tomatoes and you're like,
Starting point is 00:34:15 what the fuck? Like, stuff is liable to get messed up when you're dealing with NFL reps. Who this year I feel like David Worse than ever. And it's also, it's a very human thing. Again, I'm not, the ref is a fucking asshole. I'm happy that he is not gonna be roughing in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:34:30 He shouldn't, probably shouldn't ref anymore because this was such an egregious mistake. But the way that it looked like Taylor Decker reported and then number 70 comes up and talks to him, like as a human being, the last person who ever talks to me, I'm gonna be like, yeah, that was the one who reported. But I don't think he said anything. I don't think he said anything.
Starting point is 00:34:47 He talked to me. He hung up. He just ran towards the ref and then, school was also in that meeting too, because he usually reports as well, but he's caught a few balls. Right. So he's usually the guy that I throw it to.
Starting point is 00:34:58 So they're trying to confuse the other team by having all these people go up to the refs. The ref screwed it up big time. But you know what I mean? And if you have to explain how confusing it is before the game and then it's still confusing, again, the ref is an asshole, but maybe make a play that's a tiny bit less confusing.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And what point do the refs become complicit in like part of the play too? If they know the tricky part of the play that's going on, now are you expecting the referee to like act like number 70s reporting and like look at number 70? Right. Dan Campbell told you, hey the play that's going on. Now are you expecting the referee to act number 70s reporting and look at number 70? Dan Campbell told you, hey, this guy's going to pretend that he's reporting.
Starting point is 00:35:30 So look at him, maybe even brush your tummy off, and then just know that Decker's actually the guy that's going to catch the pass. At some point, the refs become part of that. But you could tell after the game was over, I think it was about 30, 40 minutes after the final whistle, the hit got called in. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah. The answer's been doing it. They called in a hit because out of nowhere, the chapter just starts tweeting the greatest hits of this officiating crew. The previous mistakes they've made this season, I think they were the refs at the end of that Kansas City Green Bay game on the egregious pastor, if you're it's called that they missed. And then there were multiple other calls that happened earlier in this game that Shaftor started tweeting out like the all-22
Starting point is 00:36:10 before the all-22 even hit. But Cowboys got away. Yeah, no, no, then he did the reverse hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And FL then came and got involved. No, but I was like, I think it was hit, but they were all hits on the same crew. No, but then he reversed hit it
Starting point is 00:36:23 because he was like the leg-tripping penalty was actually supposed to be on the line so the Cowboys would have won anyway. Right, but then he reverse hit it because he was like the leg tripping uh, penalty was actually supposed to be on the line so the Cowboys would have won anyway. Right, but it was a hit. It was a hit still on the same officiating. Right, but it was, it was more like a, it was like overkill. But that was a hit. You should be mad at the Lions. Yeah, that was a hit that was basically like, Shaftar saying that the refs didn't affect the outcome of the game. Well, they did, but it, it it are, they already had fucked over the Cowboys. So the Cowboys were the rightful winner. This is, it's butterfly effect.
Starting point is 00:36:49 But yeah, yeah, that's what he was that, that, that like tripping tweet was literally him tweeting. I think the NF, I think Adele probably called them personally. It was like, hey, we can't have people like Mike Florio taking us to Supreme Court saying that this whole game should be overturned. Oh, say that the trip happened so that the cowboy, we can be like, the cowboys would have won anyway. Mike Flores is actually on the side of the refs.
Starting point is 00:37:10 He's kind of saying that the trick play was too deceptive. Okay, so then I'm disavowing my own opinion of the 5%. Okay, there you go. But at any rate, the hit was called in for Shephardt to take this crew out. He did it all. And make sure this crew does not work another down, especially like in the post season, we don't want to see this crew out there He did it all. And make sure this crew does not work another down, especially like in the post season.
Starting point is 00:37:25 We don't want to see this crew out there. But it was, it was crazy into, I actually agree with you. Both teams played pretty well for the most part. Yeah, and there was, there was the CDLAM, like 92 yard touchdown pass, which was incredible. And then, yeah. CDLAM fumbles through the end zone. It's called for a touchback.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Everybody out there tweets the same thing. There's the worst ruling sports. Fuck you, it's not, it's actually for touchback. Everybody out there tweets the same thing is the worst ruling sports. Fuck you. It's not. It's actually a great rule. I hate the rule. It's a good rule. I'll explain to you why I agree. Yeah. It's a good rule. Well, I hate the rule because I'm a disaster if it wasn't a rule. No, I as an over better. I hate the rule. That's that's fine. Yeah. If you I'm a boss, then that's that's sad. But it's a great rule. It's tragic. People say, like, Oh, how come if you fumble the ball and it goes out of balance, your team still gets the ball,
Starting point is 00:38:09 but if you fumble it through the end zone, then it becomes a turnover. Well, it's because the end zone exists as a special place in football. There's different rules in the end zone. A player can reach a ball over the line and if it crosses the line and then they fumble, guess what, it's a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:38:24 It's a special zone, okay? So the rules of the regular field don't apply to the end zone. Every rule change that's been put in in the last 30 years has been trying to help the offense. There's nothing that helps the defense at all. This is one that encourages guys to play down to the one-inch line and it actually is a rule that helps the defense a little bit. Also, on kickoffs, what happens when the ball is not possessed by anybody
Starting point is 00:38:45 and it rolls through the back of the end zone. That's a touchdown. If the ball is not possessed or a touchback, if the ball is not possessed by anybody and it goes through the end zone, that's a touchback, not just on fumbles on kickoffs, on punts, on the whole thing. I like the rule and there's been some awesome plays that have happened in NFL history. Like that, you remember Ben Watson when he corner flag champ Bailey? Remember that play? That was a sick play Calvin Johnson against the Seahawks, I think. There's been some great plays.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I like the rule. The people that are complaining about it are the same people that are saying, wait a second. How come we make every single rule change to the favorite quarterbacks and wide receivers? Let the defense have something counterpoint. It's the most tragic play in sports if you have the over. Yeah, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And so I can't take you seriously with that pen. What is that pen? There's been on the desk for a long time. Why are you, you're getting on your soapboxes? It's Evan's pen. You're just shaking a fucking, I'm like, what is that a troll doll pen? No, it's some company.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I don't know, I think it's Pugspin. It was a good speech. It's Pugspin. I agree with you. I think it I think it's Pugspin. Pugspin. It was a good it was a good speech It's Pugspin. I agree. I agree with you I'm being completely biased when I say that obviously it's it's Whenever it happens I'm sad because it's the worst play for an over because you're so close to six points And then you just reverse yeah, and yeah, no, I agree you can't like there has to be something you you can't just be Willie nilly throwing the ball like to the end zone. Yeah It's it's an agent of chaos too
Starting point is 00:40:06 Which I like that little bit of uncertainty when you get down to the goal. It's so tragic We we also need to my serious pan I'm gonna use this I'm gonna use this now. That's how you know I'm not fucking around the The big the other big story from this game which we have to talk about because Dan Campbell Basically saved Mike McCarthy from looking like the biggest dummy ever, which he is a big dummy. Shout out Mike McCarthy for finally going with just a straight hoodie on the sideline. That's a fat guy move.
Starting point is 00:40:33 I respect that. Mike McCarthy and his late game clock management will, when we do our, what do we call it back of the head and back of the head, when we do our back of the head for every team, it's Mike McCarthy in the late game clock management because that past play where the line, he gave the Lions 40 extra seconds to drive down the field. And then he went into prevent defense. Those are mixed up big catch.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And on top of that, the one thing that completely gets lost, so there's, I think 26 seconds left when the Lions score touched out, and they're going for two. Mike McCarthy, you have probably the best kicker in football right now. They were talking on the broadcast how he has a 70-foot range, or 70-yard range, right?
Starting point is 00:41:18 Mike McCarthy used a timeout before the two-point conversion. Like if they get the two-point conversion and you have two timeouts, you can easily get into 70- range with a couple of past plays and a time out with 26 seconds left. He is so fucking stupid, so fat, he will be the downfall for the Dallas Cowboys. So big guy was just a mix up according to Jerry Jones. So after the game Jerry Jones said the Cowboys hated to give the Lions those 40 seconds and that he thinks
Starting point is 00:41:43 it might have been a mix up. So, okay, that's explained away. It was a classic mix up. It was a mic mix up. It was a mix up. And these things happen in the bike, McRae. He does get mixed up. It was bad.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It was really, but the play calling was just atrocious at the end. I have no, it's like he's never been in a close game. Every time he's in a close game. And the best part is he spent the entire game running on first down when they couldn't run the ball Yeah, Tony Pollard I think I think he broke one for like 11 or 12 yards other than that if you took the long run the Tony Pollard had out He I think he averaged like 1.6 yards per carry
Starting point is 00:42:15 So he spent the whole game trying to run and then the moment he was supposed to run He's like, nah, fuck it. Let's pass. Yeah, yeah, and on that he did try to give the ball to a Tony Pollard But that was the tripping call that got missed. Yeah, but remember this happened against Seahawks too? Yeah. He's the same exact thing. Yeah, he's a dummy. He's a dummy after that game.
Starting point is 00:42:33 He got saved big time. Yeah, big time by the fact they won that game. And Dan Campbell got all the, and the refs, like all the stories about Dan Campbell going for two again on the seven-year line and the refs fucking up. Mike and Carthie just snuck right under the microscope and was like, I'm not here. All the stories about Dan Campbell going for two again on the seven-year line in the rest fucking up Mike McCarthy just Snuck right under the under the microscope was like I'm not here. Those are two cowboys wins But I'm counting them as two Mike McCarthy losses. Yes, because it's gonna happen
Starting point is 00:42:54 He's got his brain just stops. Yeah, it stops. He cannot maybe the games need to be shorter for Mike McCarthy Maybe shouldn't coach the first quarter. Maybe he runs out of gas He just gets tired because, look, like when we did the Arizona ball, when we were up in the booth, we had to stand the whole time. I was fucking gased by the fourth quarter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Like standing, if you're overweight, is might as well be running a marathon. Who are they gonna put in and like the late fourth quarter, Dan Quinn? He's never given up a big deal. That's what I'm saying, quarter. That's what I'm saying. You need to, you need to just,
Starting point is 00:43:24 maybe Michael Karthy starts the game in a chair. Just let, let, let Dak do it. Why can't he sit in a chair? Why can't football coach sit in chair? If you can. That's what coaches do. You're sitting a bad.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Yeah, why not? But yeah, Dak has been playing while CDLAM broke the record for yards and receptions for the Cowboys, which is insanely impressive, given their history at the Y-Dracie position. And he did it in, in a regular 16 games. I like that. Yeah, we're going to get some records next week that are going to have asterisk next
Starting point is 00:43:50 soon, but that one's that's legit. Yeah. So in he went what 13 for 227 to touch down, but I, yeah, I walked away from this game being like the Lions defense played a lot better than I expected against a Cowboys offense that did look like it was rolling. And yeah, I go back to it, but the NFL playoffs are so wide open. Yep. And I know this was devastating for the Lions because they were still in line to possibly sneak into the number one seed. If they had won this game, they would have been
Starting point is 00:44:20 the two seed, which would have meant two playoff games in home if they had won the first round. That sucks. I've also seen a little bit of discourse regarding the hip drop tackle with the Aiden Hutchinson. Oh, okay. So he had, would he have three sacks? Yeah, he was all over the place. And so they were saying that two of the sacks
Starting point is 00:44:36 would be considered hip drop tackles. You can't hit the quarterback below the knee. You can't hit him above the shoulders. He hit him around the waist. Get your pen. He hit him up on defense.'t hit him above the shoulders he hit him around the waist he had a more up on defense he had enough for defense which came out and i just a hit that press cut in the midsection the only place where you're allowed to hit a quarterback and then his body takes him to the ground because that's how the fucking laws of gravity work
Starting point is 00:45:00 okay so if you're going to sit here and tell me that the the the hip-trop tackle is going to get added to the list below the knee tackle and the above the shoulder tackle, well guess what? Just put flags on these quarterbacks, okay? Yeah. Just turn into flag football,
Starting point is 00:45:13 because there's no such thing as a sack anymore. Yeah. Hip-drop tackle is a figment of your imaginations. Not real, it's not real. Let the boys play, let them tackle. Let them tackle. Rant over. Let them tackle.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Congrats Hank. Thank you. Yeah boys. I mean that was huge for you Hank. Huge. The. Ranch. I'll tackle. Boom. Congrats, Hank. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, that was huge for you, Hank. Huge. The Cowboys are now the reverse. They're going to get to home playoff games. We'll get to the Eagles later, but they're going to get to home playoff games. They've only looked like a Super Bowl contending team at home. And now, yeah, I mean, hopefully we get Lions Cowboys part two.
Starting point is 00:45:43 We'd love to see it as the Lions would if all the higher seeds won, the Lions will be the three seed. The Cowboys with the two seed. Lions would go to Dallas. As long as Dallas doesn't blow this against the commanders week, can you have the Ken still blow it? They can't still blow it. They can still blow it.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Last year, we're not going to be the party. Oh, Max is here. Commanders are set. We're good max is here. Oh max Oh, we're gonna we're gonna we're probably not gonna get to the Eagles that you got upon your headphones put on your headphones Put on your headphones Max just walked in Max were Max were not gonna get the Eagles till later, but that Cowboys win was awesome I didn't watch that football game. Oh the fuck is a really good game How do you know watch that rooster for this podcast you watch it? Yeah, I know imagine that you're a producer With implications on that game now watching it sickening. Yeah, so what do you think about it though?
Starting point is 00:46:36 It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. It's good win good win for the cowboys. Would you think Hank? What were the keys to that game? Ah the keys to that game. We're the keys to that game were just getting that call at the end of the game Can you give a key to the game that we didn't talk about already? Oh, no, I also did not watch it I I was at a concert and then I was at the bar after and I was like Sit next my front. I was like, I need a cowboy's win. We need a cowboy's win. Saw it. They won by one It was like, let's go and then yesterday on the way back. I was Reading about what happened. I was like, holy fuck. What a win.
Starting point is 00:47:07 What a win. The Lions got screwed. The Lions got screwed. What a fucking win. Hank also just found out yesterday, I believe that he officially lost the one hour stand-up pick thing. Yeah, he was rooting yesterday like it was like it meant so.
Starting point is 00:47:20 It meant so. Yeah, I thought if I went perfect and you went like, no, that's sad. But unless you want wanna do one more? I think even if we did three picks this week, I think I don't think so. I went one and one. Damn.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yeah. I might go, maybe on Friday, I'll decide if we're, we can do three. No, if I'm, I think I'm like six or seven games ahead of you, I might just do seven. I'd have to go, oh, and seven, you just go seven. And oh, I'll give you, I might give you that. Just for fun. I'm ready, I've been preparing.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Okay. All right, next game. Ravens 56, Dolphins 19, Ravens the one seed. This was an ass kicking, Lamar Jackson MVP. Happy we can be done with that discussion. All right, Hank's going to Duffy's right now for the Michigan game. Hank came back to work for 20 minutes and now he's going to a bar. The Ravens killed them.
Starting point is 00:48:12 It was a shit pumping. The Ravens are like almost too good. The Ravens are what I thought the 49ers were a couple weeks ago. They are beating great teams. They've beaten three division leaders by a combined 62 points. Yeah, it is like like the and and their three losses are weird losses that you can like they were leading in all three of their losses late in the fourth. Yeah, they look they they're just like playing on a different level right now. And Lamar is the best part about Lamar is like you know that there's a handful of times a game where he will just make a play that no other quarterback
Starting point is 00:48:49 Can make for you and he'll save their ass and their offense looks like the Todd Monkett offense It's finally clicking throwing the ball deep. We also had One of my favorite tweets of 2023 because it actually happened in 2023 from Joe Shad. I'm sure you saw this PFT, but he tweeted, that's pretty terrible that John Harbaugh and the Ravens just passed for another touchdown up 49-19 with a few minutes left, and moments after Bradley Chubb was carted off
Starting point is 00:49:18 with a potentially serious injury. It's 56-19. Disgusting. He wrote an article about it too. Disgusting. I can't believe that a football team continue to play football. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Also, I'm just gonna read just a random box score line. From, it's just, I'm taking a random game from this year. This is completely random. It's almost as random as a lottery ball. To a tag of a pass, short middle toon, A chain, 10 yards, touchdown, extra point, good dolphins, 56 Broncos, 13. Yeah. Huh.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Interesting. Yeah, listen, you're going to, if you're planning to get some really good opponent, you're going to step on their throats. Who cares? Yeah, who cares? It sucks to Bradley Chubb got hurt. That's actually a huge blow for the dolphins, but the better question is why was Bradley Chubb still in that game? A great question. Yeah. He shouldn't have been.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I agree with that. Yeah. But the Ravens are playing on a different level. And now they get the one seed. They probably won't play anyone next week. So now we get the Russ first rest because we might get a two week Ravens, you know, like everyone get healthy. Yep. Yep. So it's the Steelers and the Ravens next. Do you think that anything in week Ravens, you know, Ravens. Everyone get healthy. Yep. Yep. So it's the Steelers and the Ravens next. Do you think that anything in the Ravens DNA is like, we don't want the Steelers to beat us twice? I think Tyler Huntley might win that game. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Pro-Buller. I think Tyler Huntley might win that game, just because it's like, I think they'll rest all their key guys. And I think Tyler Huntley might still win that game. You know what's really like turned a corner for Lamar this year is the touch passes. Yeah, he's got great touch passes. Yeah, cause that was a problem, even at Louisville, like it was like, you know, a guy in the short flat
Starting point is 00:50:54 and he would just miss him. Like that was an easy throw. He's playing at a different level. Odell Beckham says the best team he's ever played on. Right now, I don't know if that's coming from his dad's film breakdown. I wanna hear a film break break like a PFF style grade from Odell's dad comparing this team to the Rams team that he was on. Yeah, but I think he's probably right because if we're going to get
Starting point is 00:51:15 into some nerdy statistics, we like DVOA. If you were not exactly sure what it means, the Ravens have become the first team in NFL history to put up over a hundred percent DVOA in four games in a season. No team had done it three times. So the Ravens just became the third team or the first team to ever do it three times in a season. And now they're the first team to do it four times in a season. And there I believe, uh, according to DVOA, you know, there's what top five defense offense
Starting point is 00:51:42 and special teams, I believe so, which is like, because that's the thing, as you see a lot of times the team will be great in two thirds of the phases. And you forget, oh, special teams is very important. I actually have special teams written down as the back of the head for the Rams. Okay. Yeah. Well, they just got rid of their kicker. Oh, they had Gunner Olschevsky return a kick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And then was top. A lot of stuff going on with that. Also Lamar now has as many perfect passer ratings as Tom Brady. Ooh, damn, three, 158.3. Again, no idea how they calculate that. I think they just make it up, but still that's impressive.
Starting point is 00:52:16 It's a shit pumping. I'm like, so I tweeted this out because this is back to back years I'm getting my Preseason picked for the Super World to the one seed and people like don't worry because Max is an Arabian's fan So I think I should be a little bit safer. What do you mean? Max is an Arabian's fan, but why that was that matter because he all he does is finish second place and lose but he you had Oh, you had the Eagles last. year. Yeah, the Eagles last year. And Max is, Max is an Eagles fan. I'm putting a future on the Ravens right now.
Starting point is 00:52:48 You're fucking asshole. Actually, Max, the bad price, you got, you got, you got price, you got a fight fire. I'm a fuck, I'm a, this is, this is, Max, it's bad, Max is finally learning how to fight fire with fire. Yeah. I don't think it matters because you're going to put like 10 bucks on plus 300 after they've shown themselves
Starting point is 00:53:04 all year. It's both, it's not the preseason pick. I do look forward to though if the Ravens can get deep in the playoffs I will be buying a pair of Purple cargo oh for sure have to the purple camo pants are elite I also I love seeing Stavvy before the game on the Ravens official account. Yeah, you see that on the sidelines Yeah, you could tell there were some things that Stavvy wanted to say as Ronnie from Dundalk and he was like, fuck, I can't say that. I'll just say he built a homemade weapon and let everybody else fill in the blanks.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It does feel though that the Ravens, this is a legacy playoffs from Lamar Jackson coming up because if they fall short of, I would say they have to get to the Super Bowl because Super Bowl is anything can happen they have to get to the Super Bowl. I don't think so. I think they have to win two games because well that I would be getting to the Super Bowl. That would be getting it. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Okay. Yeah. I was thinking I have to get to the Super Bowl because the narrative right now on Lamar is he can't win in the playoffs at all. But if he wins one game and then lose the game. Yeah, they have to get to the Super Bowl. Yeah, I think that it's a legacy playoff. I would agree with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Okay, next game, Saints 23, box 13. This was such a classic case of just always bet the bet that makes you so uncomfortable. We talked about it on Friday. I was like, I kind of love the Saints this week just because they look so bad and the box looks so good. And then the Saints played better than they've played all year. Their defense was all over the place. Their first, the first eight bucks drives were four, three and out, two picks and a fumble. Baker looked very confused. Very good. Take some hill look good out there. John Johnson was awesome. I like this because there's so many scenarios in week, week 18 now. Like so many different things can happen. So I like this because there's so many scenarios in week 18 now.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Like so many different things can happen. So I like the fact that it's mixed up a little bit, but yeah, Mike Evans, Baker Mayfield, they were on the same page in the first half. I still think that the bucks are good. I think that they're in above average team and that they're better than the saints regardless of what happened last weekend.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Just kind of a weird scenario. I think they're average. I think they're average. I think they're average. I mean, the record would tell you they're average. Yeah, I think they're an average team. I think those saints are an average team. This is actually kind of torturous for saints fans because you saw them finally put together a complete game
Starting point is 00:55:19 and now going into week 18, they don't control their own destiny, which sucks because you could see the Saints maybe put together two great games at the end of the season and then Saints fans would be like, where was this all year? What do you think the percentage of Saints fans are that don't want to see them make the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:55:35 I think once you get to week 18, you have to just... You want to get in it. You're knowing that you're going to run it back with Alan and Card next year. Right, you just, I think once you get to the final doorstep, it's such a long season, you want more football. Losing that last game of the season
Starting point is 00:55:50 would be so much better for you next year though. It would make every week so much better for you. Yeah, but if you lose and you could have gotten in with a win, I don't know. Maybe that's actually what's gonna happen then. They're gonna win and still not get in. That would be good. That's where I'm set. Yeah. That's the torture part where they look at it and they say we were playing good football at the end, literally at the end because it was the last two weeks.
Starting point is 00:56:15 And we don't get an extra football game. But I think that would be good though, because you could lose, still not get in. And then your coach gets fired. Right. And then you're happy going to next year. You're like, oh, we should have made the playoffs. Would be the real heartbreaking scenario is if you didn't get in the playoffs. And then the box went on a little roll. Yeah. If the box got to like the NFC championship game because then you could say, fuck, that could have been us.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Who would the box play in the first, when they play the Eagles? I think they play the Eagle. Well, it depends on what happens in the last week of the season with the Cowboys and the Eagles. I don't know if the Eagles are, are they favored to win against the Giants? Shouldn't be. Shouldn't be. Why not? We'll get to that later. Okay, we'll get to that later. Um, yeah, the, the Eagles and the box. Yeah, I just think the box are, yeah, they're perfectly average. I don't think they're very good.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I think on their, on their A plus game, they could beat Everyone but the Niners and probably the Cowboys and then But they're very very easily could could throw out a like us. They're there their C plus is very bad I think they could lose to anybody right their C plus is bad Where's like you could say like oh the Niners C plus could win a playoff game still? Yeah, or the Raven C plus could win a playoff game If the bucks throughout a C plus they'll lose by 20. Yeah. Okay. Rams giants. This was an ugly win for the Rams. Stafford didn't look great. And we said it. The special teams is a problem. But the Rams have clinched a playoff birth in a season where they were supposed to be rebuilding in a season when they're over under with six and a half. Sean McVeigh is a very, very good coach.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Maths Safry are still very good. And I'm even though they struggled with the giants, I'm going to keep the dangerous tag on them. Yeah, the way that they built this team is interesting because they had to get young, they had to get cheap because they've been in cap hell. It's like the Rams and the Saints are always going to be in cap hell. The cap might not even really exist, but the way that they're managing it is let's get some mid-round guys, start a bunch of them. Hope we can coach them up and do well. And
Starting point is 00:58:12 they've been really good. Also, Nikkoah, that's been a hell of a bonus for him. And Karen Williams. Karen Williams. He's, how many games in a row now does he have a touchdown? He just, seems like he scores twice every single week. But yeah, the Rams are awesome. The Rams are very, very good compared to what the expectation for the Rams should have been going into this year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:32 So this was scary. The punt return was really, really bad. And the kicking game obviously is going to be an issue. I don't know who they're going to sign. So did the Rams put out a blueprint on how to run a team? It's basically go, win a Super Bowl, go in Cap Hell, and then get two of the best offensive players in the NFL in the fifth round. Yeah. That's it. That's it. It's as easy as it could be. It's
Starting point is 00:58:55 to that are have your quarterback be dating and married to a Brazilian Supermodel. Yeah. Those are the two ways that you can succeed despite winning championship. That's it. Just just get your fifth rounders be I mean, Nuku Pukinakua and Kyron Williams, both fifth rounders are they, I mean, in their respective positions are both top 10 players this year. I'd say Nuku is probably pretty close. I think Kyron Williams is. He is. Yeah, he has to be. So it's, it's pretty crazy to think that like those two guys, that's good drafting. Good scouting. Yeah, we'd go boys, less neat,
Starting point is 00:59:27 fuck them picks, still hilarious name. The other part of this game, Tyra Taylor, I do, I actually think in the season of backups, I might put Tyra Taylor as the first or second best backup. He's like a long-term backup, he's a dependable backup. Yeah, and I would be pumped if you're listening, like you and you think like your team signs Tyro Taylor, I'd be pumped.
Starting point is 00:59:52 I don't blame Tyro Taylor for that mispass to sake one. Sake one should have caught that. And then she would be easy. Then he should have caught the other one. He dropped two of those. It's sometimes a pass is too easy. He becomes hard. That's true.
Starting point is 01:00:04 That's exactly what it was. You overthink it. It was like, they were standing next to It becomes hard. That's true. That's exactly what it was. You overthank it. It was not like, they were standing next to each other. Yeah. They could have handed it to him. Right. He probably could also just run it in himself.
Starting point is 01:00:11 He definitely could have run himself. But yeah, I like the giants are in a weird spot because I was thinking about this. Remember Daniel Jones? He still is owed a lot of money. He's probably pumped though. Yeah. Next year he's owed 35 million date they can cut them after the after next season so at least they have an out there but that's such a bummer to be like oh we gotta go
Starting point is 01:00:34 we were going to do down the johns again yeah he's lurking back there uh... just in anerson had a had a report or today i don't know if you saw a big cap and said that uh... in the nfc east there's two teams that could be making coaching moves. One, Ron Rivera, obviously, and then the two might surprise you. Now, do you think... Would you think... Hold on, before we tell me this, would it be the most shocking thing in the world if Ron Rivera kept this job? Yes, it would. I'd agree. I would be shocked. I'd agree.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Like, the universe is not real if Ron was coming back. I'd agree. I'd agree. Like there's the universe is not real if Ron is gonna come back. I'd agree. So is it Sireani or is it gonna be Dable? Who's the interesting one? Cause I think McCarthy's gonna say the quote again. It was, I don't have the direct quote in front of me, but it was like, there are two teams that are expected to make coaching changes. One might be surprising.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Now, McCarthy, McCarthy maybe, but maybe Sireani, maybe Dable. Sireani's look bad. I'm trying to think I'm going through the roll of decks, real quick. They also just back apparently might be talking about wink Martin Dale. Who would be the other Dan Quinn, but he's not getting fired.
Starting point is 01:01:40 You might get hired somewhere. Yeah, who would be the other, who would be the other coach? That would be like shock. Oh, Matt Petrischer maybe? Pete Carroll. No, in the NFC East. Oh, NFC East, only NFC. Only, yeah, yeah, there's more bird team.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I was singing Pete Carroll. Yeah, NFC East. Only NFC. Then it has to be Dave or Cereani. It's gotta be Cereani. Cereani. It has to be Cereani. I kind of love the fire that Eagles fans have though. I love the fact that you guys were just a
Starting point is 01:02:06 Super Bowl last year and now you're like fuck this guy. I saw people blaming how we rose later. We'll get to it later. How Erosman is now on the hot seat. Yeah, people are mad about the construction of the defense, but we'll get to it later. He's built Arguably if you go like position by position The only team that probably is more loaded is the diners. He built Georgia. He built Georgia. So NFL Georgia. If you're mad at how he roseman, just be mad at Kirby Smarrer.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Yeah. Okay, sounds like you're a little mad. Yeah, you won't mad at it. We'll get to it later. Okay, we'll get to it later. All right, now we're getting to a run of games that we don't care about as much. Although this one, cults raiders, cults are similar to the speech I just gave with the Rams. Shane Stikens should be coach of the year.
Starting point is 01:02:48 He's got my vote. He's had my vote for a while. cults were over under six and a half wins. They're now gonna play for a win and get in with the Texans on Saturday night. Also Shane Stikens coach of the year, entire resume should happen with the Eagles in conjunction. How bad the Eagles of like Shane Stiking was the mastermind.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Yeah. Shane Stiking was a coach that got away. Acts. That's a fact. Yeah. Shane Stiking is the guy. So, um, coordinator merchant next year, I would say, I like that. We'll get to a later. Is he a coordinator killer? We got to a later. We'll get to.
Starting point is 01:03:28 So, uh, Gordon, I mentioned I would put right up'll get to it later. We'll get to it later. So, uh, Gardiner Munchoo, I would put right up the retailer, yes, being a backup that's why I said to you, I said one or two. Yeah. Gardiner Munchoo, he had, man, he had some nice balls, nice deep balls in this game. I didn't watch too much of it, just what they showed me on red zone and from what I saw, he's, he can still sling it. So I, I bet on the Raiders, so I watched the majority of this game. The Raiders couldn't do anything, I bet on the Raiders, so I watched the majority of this game. The Raiders couldn't do anything besides Aino Connell to Devonte Adams. And they had a chance at the end where the Colts lined up for a kick, missed the kick. The Raiders were off sides. So it went from, it was, they, they had cut it to a seven point game.
Starting point is 01:04:01 They missed the kick, get to re-kick, hit it. It's a ten point game. Raiders cover in the back door with like a minute left. But yeah, the Colts controlled this game for the majority of it. And if the Raiders wanted to win this game, they just should have deleted the interim tag. Yeah. Tony O'Pierre's, and they would have won that game. Yeah, the Raiders fought to the, to the dying end.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And they were still alive going into this game. Mark Davis, if you're a listener, I hope you are a listener of this podcast. Think about how cheap it would be to hire Antonio Pierce. All you have to do, you have to just hire a guy with one of those scrapers to go to the door and just scrape the word to enter them off. Yeah. You don't even have to change anything. That's true. Just do it.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Just get some white out. The Raiders defense also, you can build on that because they were like they had Gardner Mitchell running around for his life a few times and Max Crosby is a game record. So I think you just you they have to figure out the quarterback. I don't know. Maybe it's a conno. Maybe it's a OC. Maybe it's a OC seemed to like him a lot. Whatever happened to Jimmy. Was he ever do you ever get healthy? I think Jimmy was he got injured and then they were just like, okay, we're going to silently it. You know what it is? He's Josh McDaniel's guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:06 So they can say we don't want to go with Jim anymore because Josh was the one that was standing on the table being like, hey, have you called Jimmy yet? Have you gotten Jimmy over yet? Yeah. He was Jimmy's physical looking. Oh, that shoulder looks fine to me. That ankle looks good. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:05:19 You're right. And AOC, I mean, credit to him, he realized that like, hey, Devonte Adams is still one of the best ride receivers in the league. So we just spam that play. Yeah, they couldn't cover it. Um, but yeah, I, the cults like, I'm kind of, it's tough because cults Texans like, I kind of want to see both teams in playoffs now.
Starting point is 01:05:37 They're both great stories. Is she if you're playing against those teams who rather play, definitely you'd rather play against the cults, right? Correct. Correct. Because I think the ceiling is higher with CJ. Actually, just being crazy. I'd rather play against the Jags.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Yeah, I would rather play against Jags. Yeah, that's the team I would want to go up against. Yes, yeah, I mean, that the Browns, Browns fans are big Jags fans this week. Yes. Coming up here because that would be a nice matchup. So the Texans Titans is the other game. This game was so bad. I'm actually happy that it was bad because I said in my head I was like this game's gonna be bad
Starting point is 01:06:09 I don't really have to think about it too much. Yeah, and then it completely delivered. Yep, because the Titans They got in the red zone once will love us got knocked out You got knocked out Ryan T. And he'll came back in the Titans got in the red zone once They had 170 yards of offense total and they were one for 12 on third down. And Will Anderson, is he officially now gonna win defensive rookie of the year? He must.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Oh, no, there's another player. Oh, yeah, you're a guy. Well, also the guy, you're thinking of collage of cancels. Yeah. This guy that plays on the Eagles, that's pretty good too. Oh, jailing Carter, right? jailing Carter, I forgot about jailing Carter. Is he gonna win rookie of the year? Yes, he is Defensive rookie of the year will Anderson to sax
Starting point is 01:06:52 Jalen Carter is gonna win. Are you sure you guys have a pretty good defense then? No, it's very bad. Oh, it's defense. Oh no jail Carter is still minus five-fifty. Yeah, he's probably gonna win He is a record man will Anderson though making big plays in important games. Will Anderson is a beast. I think Carter I was a sack yesterday. I think that Will Anderson had two. Okay, that's double the amount of sacks. Okay, and also Will Anderson's team won. Also Will Anderson's an ed Rusher and Jalen Carter's interior, but that's fine. I got to figure out how will Anderson's team won. How many tackles for loss did Collision can't see have? That's big for me. I looked it up later.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Well Anderson's also not playing on a line of just like what was the best defensive? What did they say? We'll talk about that later. We'll talk about that later. We'll talk about that later. We'll talk about that later. Except for the last game of the season
Starting point is 01:07:35 when they didn't have any sex. Yeah. But no, If you plugged them in and will Anderson, they like more. They talked about it later. They traded it up for Will Anderson and people thought it was an overpay and it wasn't yeah, he's awesome
Starting point is 01:07:46 I Think that Mike Vrable is saving one last treat for the last game of the season the Jags the Jags Oh, it's so I think I think there's a look ahead game for Mike Vrable He doesn't give a shit if the if the Texans win this game. Yeah, I'd agree all right Let's take a break and then we'll come back and we'll finish the rest of the early games Okay, next up we we took a break to watch college football. So now we got everyone here. 49ers, 27 commanders, 10 PFT.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I'll let you say whatever you want to say. I mean, good. This was this was good. It was a good thing that happened. I've reached the point where I want. I'm feeling more of the clean slate vibes for next season. Like if anybody has been a part of the dance night or era, I kind of want them gone.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I wouldn't be distraught if they were gone. We have some good players. Termic Lauren looked better today. We got them the ball sum. That was great. Sam Hall didn't look so hot. I still think he's there. Also, shout out Jacobi Berset for I think he just pretended to have that hamstring injury.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Yeah. And he was like, let Sam start it. It was like in Rudy where they bring their jersey into coach and Ron Rivera was like, Ron Rivera probably got the call from upstairs. Ben Sam how put in Jacobi Preset. Ron Rivera probably went to Jacobi said, hey, you know, if you had a hamstring injury, it wouldn't be the worst thing ever. Yep.
Starting point is 01:09:03 I don't know what actually happened, but it doesn't really matter because this game didn't really matter. We knew that the Niners were going to win. The Niners losing to the Ravens just solidified in my brain and most people's brains, they were going to destroy the commanders. So basically all I did was watch the game, nodded my head in approval when we went down and stayed down and then I kept refreshing the tankathon and just looking at the second overall pick and thinking about Marvin Harrison, thinking about Drake May, thinking about Caleb Williams. Yeah, you're taking a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:09:33 You guys could use a UNC quarterback. Let's be honest, you're taking a quarterback. This podcast is more familiar with UNC quarterbacks than any other podcast in the history of the spoken word. Yes, that's a fact. It is a damn fact. You're taking a quarterback. We will probably be taking quarterbacks. I think you need to say it.
Starting point is 01:09:54 We will most likely be taking quarterbacks. I think you need to say that you're taking a quarterback. I think you need to understand that Sam Howell is probably hurt maybe. Yeah, he might be. Yeah, I'm not saying you like Sam Howell should still be on the roster. Yeah, but he'd be a damn good backup. Taking a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Sam Howell, damn good backup. Taking a quarterback. And I'm excited about whatever happens. I want to say it. I want to brand new slate of everything. I'm talking I want we got new owner. I would like a new head coach, new general manager, new showers in the facility, new team name.
Starting point is 01:10:28 I wouldn't even TV's new TVs. That was that was probably the funniest most notable part of the game. Yeah, after the game, the 49ers were watching the Eagles, which we'll get to an a little bit right, Max? Yeah, we'll get to that. They were watching the Eagles cardinals, the end of that game, and they were, you remember that R Kelly TV that he was watching? That's kind of what we have in the locker room. Which actually, I don't hate the fact that our opponents have to watch that TV. If that's the same TV situation that we have in our own locker. What 100% is. It probably is, that's an issue.
Starting point is 01:11:00 But yeah, just everything different. I've actually even thought about a different color scheme. Who? Now, I don't want that. Just by your shoes. I don't, yeah, they're great shoes, thank you. I don't want that, but I'm okay with everything, I want to wipe Dan Snyder's memory
Starting point is 01:11:15 from my brain entirely. What a good color scheme. I'm taking a quarterback. Yeah, maybe. What color scheme would you like in a perfect world? I'd have to think about the probably burgundy and gold still like that's that's my ideal, but Why I'm just curious. I would love to know what year like color combination would be a Carolina blue match my eyes And like burgundy
Starting point is 01:11:38 Carolina blue and burgundy that'd be that'd be sick What about black and Carolina blue? That'd also be cool. Like that's the secondary colors, Carolina blue. Yeah, I like that. And we can even do the R-Guyle. Did that with diamonds on there? Futuristic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Everything needs to change. Everything in DC that's happened in the past 25 years needs to be done exactly the opposite. So, Hank, can you look up what the opposite colors of Burgundy and Goldar? That's more of a Jake project. Jake, can you look that up the opposite colors of burgundy and gold? That's more of a Jake project. Jake, can you look that up? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:07 The, as for the 49ers, maybe just watching what happened with them against the Ravens and then watching them like kick the shit out of the commanders, it just feels different. Like it feels different. I don't see the 49ers in the same way, like his boss bitches. Yeah, just like, it's kind of the, the stepbrothers when the stepbrothers seen when they fart. And like all this just kind of fucked up now. It's kind of like, it's like kind of weird. I don't know. It's like, yeah, okay, you beat the commanders soundly. Yeah. They did what they're supposed to do. Right. Like you can beat teams when you get elite. Yeah. And they're probably not going to play
Starting point is 01:12:43 many players next week, right? Christian McCaffrey's gonna be out. He's gonna be resting up. Yeah, my fantasy championship is fucked next week. Next week is gonna be tough for you. Fuck. You have Christian McCaffrey. I have Christian McCaffrey in three out of four of my leagues. That sucks. You probably have Lamar too, right? I do have Lamar. Is he not gonna play? Probably not. God damn it. Why would he? God fucking damn it. Yeah. All right, but yeah, don't do agree with me That the 49ers I the only thing that will fix it is they got a beat They got to win their first round playoff game by like a hundred and then I'm like okay now they're back, but I just
Starting point is 01:13:15 Like they beat the commanders and I was like oh, that's cool Well, of course they did they beat everyone who's worse than them the Ravens just might be that good Yeah, because remember they they beat the Dallas Cowboys and they beat the Eagles, right? Who? The 49ers? 49ers, yeah. Yeah, so they're a good team.
Starting point is 01:13:33 They're a good team in the NFC. You know who else beat the Dallas Cowboys in the Philadelphia Eagles? Well, you have to be a good team. Oh, well, that's my point big cat. It's like, if you beat, if you're good enough to beat the two juggernauts, suppose the juggernauts, of the Dallas Cowboys and the Philadelphia Eagles,
Starting point is 01:13:51 you're an excellent team. That's contending for Super Bowl. Yeah, you have to be. That's a good point. Thank you. Really good point. Party, by the way, broke the franchise record for Yards. I saw that, which is crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:04 My first instinct was Yeah, but it's you know 17 game season and then I remembered. Oh, yeah, they've played 16 games. Yeah There've been a couple other good quarterbacks for the 49ers over the years and Brock party also missed what three games two games Each no one game no he got bound he didn't miss any he got bounced out of a couple games in it Yeah, he got concussed. Yeah, he didn't miss a game. Remember I thought he he missed at least a few halves of game He missed some halves, but he never I don't think he ever missed a start Which was Curious well good for him. Yeah good for him good for Brock Brock party
Starting point is 01:14:41 I think the Brock party haters are few and far between at this point. PFT, the opposite color of Burgundy is teal on the opposite goal, opposite of gold is royal blue. Teal and royal blue. And when they figure out when the opposite goal be silver, I'm just looking at a cordon of the color wheel. That'd be that second place to go. Yeah, that's opposite of first place. The opposite of gold is actually a participation trophy.
Starting point is 01:15:03 That's true. I don't know what team chairs shares the deal and Royal blue. Coastal Carolina. Okay, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Shed clears. Yeah, that's a big deal. That's a big time college or like minor.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Yeah, you can't be too college. Yeah, okay, let's stick with Bergen. That's the only thing that can stay. You just got to choose. I know, I can't. You just got to choose. Okay, it got shoes. Okay. Next up bills patriots The bills are now gonna play for the most bills weights and this season and I know that obviously They have other paths to get in but judging how everyone else is motivated like the Ravens aren't gonna play hard
Starting point is 01:15:44 The Jaguars they could definitely lose the Titans. But let's assume the Jaguars and the Steelers win their games. On Sunday night, the Buffalo Bills will be playing for the second seed in the playoffs or not being in the playoffs, which is so perfectly 2023 bills. They could play for the six seed too, I think. Yeah. I'm saying, if the jaguars and Steelers win before they play, they will be playing officially for the second seed or be out of the playoffs at game time, which is, it's wild. And I think the bills are going to do it because I think the dolphins are frauds. And the Patriots in this game, Bailey's happy did not put together a good half.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Yeah, but they hung around. Well, the bills, yeah, the bills didn't play well either. They were, we had a old school Josh smashing all the buttons that won lateral that he made while he was getting torn down sick lateral. Their offense did not look great. Resul Douglas, who we talked about a lot on this podcast, was incredible. He's two interceptions.
Starting point is 01:16:46 I think he had actually another one where it was called back where he like forced it. Yeah, he's the greatest signing mid-mid season signing in NFL history. Yes, he's nice boost. The Patriots, this game did not matter to our Patriots. Next week is our Super Bowl against the Jets. Fact or fiction. Fiction. Why? You want to to you want to lose because as you know pft as a Patriots fan or we're looking at at Tankathon. Yeah, you know Bill Balecher can't he can't tank against the Jets
Starting point is 01:17:15 They won't but it's not the most important game our franchise. It could be though We're gonna beat the Jets. It's the fucking Jets. That's gonna be an easy win. Yeah, and I'm gonna be upset about it. Yeah, no, I'm listen, I I love Bill. I love Bill. I love him so much. I want to see him go out with a win I think it mean a lot to all Patriots nation greater new always not that He's not going anywhere yet. Well, I read something that said that he was. From, was it Jeff Howe? He's plugged in, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Yeah, so I, listen, I think that what's most important is that we want to send Bill out on a high note. It's funny because like next week I'm going to be rooting for Hank. Um, Max is going to be rooting for Max again, because he's selfish. He's only roots for Max. He's selfish, but memes is going to be rooting also for Hank next week. I think we're just on team heck next week. You don't want the Jess on memes? No, I want the Patriots to fall now because I'm in fear of them getting cable blooms.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Okay, there. Okay. So you're gonna try to, how are going to try to tell how are you going to take? I don't know. You could maybe start Mac Jones. That would be hilarious. Well, there's there, there is a comparison. There is a graphic floating around out there of the two quarterbacks stats of this year
Starting point is 01:18:39 and they're basically exactly the same. Yeah. Yeah. Mac Jones is as well as that was my eyes. Yeah. Yeah. That's not sure. The only time I could told you that was my eyes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. That one. Well, Mac Jones, Mac Jones at the end was way worse. Yeah. Like he had the Yips and he was just
Starting point is 01:18:54 lofting balls to defensive, but the two interceptions. Bays. Yeah, no, they were bad. They were really bad. I don't know that that's not the Yips. They were Mac Jones like there was one that he under threw by about six yards and that one that scream Mac to me.
Starting point is 01:19:09 We're also at Hank, we're gonna have to be on our peas and queues with the strength of schedule because I don't know how that's gonna shake out. There's like other matchups that we have to watch in case the Patriots do lose that game. The commanders also lose. There's like three other games across the NFL that we have to root to go a certain way because that's how they're going to decide who would get the second
Starting point is 01:19:28 pick, who would get third, who would get the fourth pick. Who I'm sorry, but this is this is foreign to me. You guys still don't know what pick you're going to have. We don't know what I know. I'm going to have just yet. Yeah. So explain this. Unless the NFL takes away the draft pick from David Tepper as a punishment. It's not their draft pick anymore. I just think they could take away next year. Right now it says it's Carolinas. They could take away our next years. Uh, what, what was the, what, what has to happen?
Starting point is 01:19:54 I'm not sure if we both lose, then there's three other games week 18. Oh, for the fact that we got to figure that out. I think I'm rooting for the Saints. I don't know. Okay. You don't know who you're rooting for. Remember for the Jets. I got to have all my. I think I'm rooting for the Saints. I don't know. You don't know who you're rooting for. I'm rooting for the Jets. I gotta have all my scenarios in front of you by game time on Jets win, commanders win, Patriots. I do think it is, it needs to be repeated because I just had a memory of that video of the bills fan lighting himself on fire,
Starting point is 01:20:20 which was awesome. Bill's mafia just going crazy for the last home game. The fact that the bills could potentially play have two home games in the playoffs, because if they're the two seed, they'd probably have two home games if they won their first game. Orden, be sitting on the couch is insane. I don't know if that like volatility has ever happened in week 18. I don't know. I don't know, but it is going to be nuts. And I'm hoping that the bills win because it would be great to see Buffalo get this home playoff games. Yes, toovum. Oh
Starting point is 01:20:49 That's funny to a toovum toovum toovum. Okay next up bears falcons bears killed the falcons The bears are the bears are building something. I don't care what people say. I know people are gonna trash me. There's a building something. They're basically identical to what the lines did last year in the fact that they... That was a funny laugh by Hank. I'm not laughing at your statement.
Starting point is 01:21:17 I'm laughing at it. This is the laugh of Mr. People like you. They're your idiots. Okay. All right, tell me how it's different. Tell me how it's different. Tell me how it's different. The was different tell me how it's different Line sort of one six last year and then they they finished made the playoffs
Starting point is 01:21:31 They yeah and the bears almost made the playoffs this year they beat or they out of the brows last week No, they were eliminated on Sunday night football idiot. Oh god week 17 And now they get to play the Packers and maybe bounce the Packers It was basically like six days different that the Bears got eliminated versus lines last Poges I die this is this is what I deal with every I just listen to you talk about the Bears and it's like they're bad They're bad they're bad. They're bad. No because I wait whoa hold on now. They're the line. They were bad for the start of the season Have I not been talking PFT Hank does the Bears are rallying around their coaches have a they have a quarterback Everyone in the city loves let me talk. I don't think so let me talk PFT
Starting point is 01:22:11 Here's how I not been saying the bears are are like playing really good ball for last month and a half Here's how the season went they're bad. They're bad. They're terrible. They suck. They won a game But they're still bad. They're bad. They're bad. They're bad Their defense is pretty good. They're defense is good again. Their defense is really good. Yes, but they're still bad. They're bad. They're bad. They're bad. They're bad. Their defense is pretty good. They're, they're defense is good again. Their defense is really good. Yes. They're not a bad team. Yes. I'm depressed because they lost against the Packers. That sucks. No, the Browns. The Browns, that sucks. That way we won't be playing to get into the playoffs against the Packers. Right. The Bears are still okay. The Bears are all right. They're pretty good now. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, They're pretty good now. It's been a trajectory upwards for the last month and a half of me saying the bears
Starting point is 01:22:48 are playing good football and they're better than the Eagles right now. Max admitted that. That's true. Objectively. They actually probably might be playing the best ball in this room. Because you guys say right now you guys played the Cardinals, right? Yeah, we kicked the shit out of the Cardinals. Okay, interesting.
Starting point is 01:23:04 And they beat the the Cowboys will get that boys we got to that sorry I'm excited about my team Hank I'm sorry I mean to laugh it just no it was really hurt for me that's what I deal with every day on the lines have a coach on the city and the team rallies behind and I have a quarterback back everyone on you know in the city is behind and they have a quarter back. That's everyone on, you know, in the city is behind the quarterback. All right. The bears have the debate every single day and no one knows where to go. Guess what? I'm not having to debate anymore.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Here's where the conversation falls apart. I've stopped having to debate. Justin Fields, we're keeping Justin Fields, we're taking all the picks. We're getting more picks for drafted Marvin Harris. Eber Flues. Yeah. He I can't decide. I don't decide that.
Starting point is 01:23:45 He's back. So I have to say, he's got the guys playing hard. That's where the comparison falls apart. It's what one team has a coach that is coaching with focused rage and his intense and awesome. And the other coach is Dan Campbell. Is Dan Campbell? The other coach spends all this time
Starting point is 01:24:00 thinking about what he's going to feed his cats for dinner. Fine. You guys don't want me to be happy. It's fine. No, I know. I do much on that. I'm more dinner. Fine. You guys don't want me to be happy. It's fine. No, I do want you to have that. I'm more appointed to that. You shouldn't be in a real dick. I know it's beyond your control, but you should not be happy that Matti
Starting point is 01:24:13 he influenced him. What do you mean you don't want you mean to be happy? We want our teams to be happy in this room. We don't want to say this room. This room is a three of us. The three guys are control the drive. Oh no, no one wants to fight team to be good. No one wants to fight team to be good.
Starting point is 01:24:29 No, I put, we're not even, I can't even say they're good. Max, I want your team to be good. And I've been, I've been, I've been, I've been, I've gone a few of my teams to be good. I want your team to be good. I do not want your team to be great. Last year I wanted your team to win the Super Bowl you fucking asshole
Starting point is 01:24:46 I wrote it for them the entire year people were mad at me because I was so fucking profili last year Same was that not count? Yeah, no, that's all for not. Oh, that's not my fault. That's the fucking turf's fault Either way, I'm very excited about the bear's future. I think everything's in front of them I still trust in whatever Ryan polls the Carolina Trade is gonna go down as one of the worst trades for care for the for one team ever the fact that we got their first the first pick overall DJ Moore and their second rounder next year. Mm-hmm. It's crazy. So the draft goes to Ryan polls again So I was thinking about again Max is gonna be rooting about again. Max is going to be rooting for me I'm going to be rooting for Hank. Hank is going to be rooting for memes and
Starting point is 01:25:31 you and me and then big cat is going to be rooting for Caleb Williams to not get hit by a bus. He's we're not traveling. Caleb. I know, but you don't want him to get. Yes, that's true. I do. Yes, and I'm rooting to beat the Packers because now week 18 I'll say it. It's my Super Bowl. I don't care It should be and guess what if the Bears win Packers fans will be crying crying crying and it will be great Mm-hmm, and I'll fucking love every second of it You don't even know that we're playing to bounce the Packers. Yeah, do lines did it last year. Oh, oh, that's interesting I know all right Well, you know what, Jake put a reminder
Starting point is 01:26:05 on this exact conversation. Week six next year, when the bears are four and two or five and one. This is gonna age nice. Oh, I can't wait for this. I can't wait for this. The bears are gonna be good next year. They are.
Starting point is 01:26:20 That's on the big cat sound board. The bears are going to be good in 2024. I'm saying it right now This team is playing fucking good football Justin feels good for each other the defense is legit We have all the draft capital. We have all the fucking cap space. I Don't care that this might be a terrible sound bite for me next year, but I'm saying it right now and I believe it My my Justin fields over Trevor Lawrence take is not as smelly as it used to be. Oh, he I just I here's what it really comes out to is I'm scared the grass is not greener. So just let's just keep loading up all the weapons and let's let's keep we need new
Starting point is 01:27:00 offense coordinator. That's a fact. What? You just never want to pay your quarterback. Oh, what happened to your quarterback? The rest of the team just sucks. This is different because your guy is like, he's a big threat with his legs. Oh, true. I mean, he still can be a good player. I think the leaders, we have two years.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Yeah, you got to pay him. You got to pay him. How many more years? But maybe he comes so good that it's like, I love to pay him. But that's, that's always the case. And then you pay him the rest of your team sucks. Quarterbacks are the new running backs. Yeah. No, I never pay. I'm ready for that. But we also have, we also have a ton of picks. So maybe all the guys will be young and cheap. How many, how many picks do the Eagles have in the first first on the Eagles right now. Yeah, we'll get to that later. He's not really fucking no, we have one more game.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Hank really fucking bummed me out. He didn't even watch football this week. It was a funny laugh Hank gave though. It's so pure. Well, it's like the line. What do you think though? What do you think the the Bears recorders in the last seven games?
Starting point is 01:28:03 Five and two. Oh, you did know that. so you're a fucking dick. You just I've barely been playing tomato cans though. Oh, they beat the lions. They almost beat them twice That not happen that happened they should have they should have beat the Lions. Yeah, they should be the price It should have beat them twice should have beat browns? If that fucking guy doesn't drop, who's the tight end that we got from? I guess it's more my laugh just because of the... Robert Tanya. Yeah, he dropped that ball.
Starting point is 01:28:32 We're in Chicago, I live here now. I'm a resident. I see the discourse. People are all over the place about the bears. We're very confused. Which because that was not the case with the lions. Everyone laughed at it with the lions. It was like, this is our it's because that was not the case with the Lions. The Lions, everyone last year with the Lions was like, this is our team, this is our city we're going.
Starting point is 01:28:49 The Bears is like, get rid of the coach, get rid of the quarterback. Well, no, we can't get inside of the team. I know, but he's back. But people, that's been decided. That was wild. That's what I would be concerned about. Do we refluse?
Starting point is 01:29:00 It's fine. Everything's gonna be fine. I still want Harbaugh, but yeah. That would be great. Would you think the bear's gonna be gonna be gonna be at Harbaugh? Yes, yes. Okay, it's not all fucking work on it. I'll figure out a way.
Starting point is 01:29:13 You can't do Tweaver Fluce again. And he's, yeah. I said I was trusting, I said I was giving my mind, mind, body, and soul over to Ryan Polz and he decided we're doing Weaver Fluce. All right, so there's nothing I can do. It's bad. You give your mind, body, and soul over to Ryan Poles and he decided we're doing to either. All right. So there's nothing I can do. It's a bad. You give your mind body and soul over to a GM.
Starting point is 01:29:27 There's literally nothing that I will follow him to the depths of hell. He should take a demotion. Yeah. He's a good, he's a good defense. He should say, you know what? Being a head coach sucks. He clearly doesn't like being a head coach. He doesn't like, I think he likes coaching football as a head coach.
Starting point is 01:29:43 I don't think he likes any of the extra stuff that goes along with it because no sane person would like to do that. Like talk to the media when you stink, try to dispel rumors about your coaches getting fired for HR reasons that you never disclose. Like that part of being a head coach is the worst. Yeah. So he should just be like, you know what, being a position coach is actually not that bad. I'm happy to do it. Let's just let somebody else come in and he'll be the cover guy for me. I just want, yeah, you're right. Everything you just said is correct.
Starting point is 01:30:11 And especially if you just let him keep his parking space, he's probably got the best parking space. Yeah, so I did, you get to keep it. He doesn't have to work out. He's changing schools. Yeah, how about it as an even needed office? Yeah, football field is his office. That's right.
Starting point is 01:30:23 I just want the record to show whatever time stamp, you maybe maybe put it in the YouTube time stamp that Hank really hurt my feelings Okay, Chiago Mars Panthers you did you hurt my feelings. I'm sorry really badly I've been I'm really excited about the bear's future and you You just dumped cold water all over it and hurt me in the nuts hurt people hurt people. Yeah, good point And his team's trying to very good. Yeah, our team's P.M. And his team's coming. I'm very good. Our team's not very good. I'm ungaslighting you. You're gaslighting me.
Starting point is 01:30:49 No. By letting him believe that this is all good. And I'm just trying to. The bears have been good. I know. What do you want me to say? It's pension to football. You don't watch football.
Starting point is 01:30:57 I'm in a bet. True. You hate football. I'm touched on. You hate football. You like Tom Brady. Bags. Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:03 OK. That's a bag. Last game before the game we want to get to. Jaguar Tom Brady. Bax. Yes. Okay. That's a bag. Last game before the game we want to get to Jaguars 26 Panther zero. This game, the story is, well, the Jaguars played well. Their defense woke up. It was against the Panther's offense and Trevor Washington play. Jaguars are now in a, if they win, they win the AFC South. If they lose, they can still maybe get in, but they would need help.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Can't really judge the Jaguars if they're back to being the early season Jaguars off a game against the Panthers. The big story is, David Tepper is now officially, he's a new dance-niter. Because he got, there was a video of him. He's got about 20 years left to doing this type of stuff.
Starting point is 01:31:43 He's on the path. Yeah, he's definitely, he is the number one as the mostly league-based tracking. He might got about 20 years left to doing this type of stuff. He's on the path. Yeah, he's definitely he is he is the number one as the most. He might be fast tracking. Yeah. So he threw a drink at a fan of a panther's fan who was heckling him. Or sorry, was a jaguar's fan? I think his jaguar's jaguar's fan. We don't know what was said to him. We don't know what words were exchanged. I you know what? I don't really care what words are exchanged because if you have over a billion dollars, I don't think words should be able to hurt you to the point where you throw a drink at someone. Yeah, I blame Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 01:32:13 She was the one that started the whole alcohol and the sweetest thing this season. And I think Tapper saw that and was like, oh, that's cool. I think that's a cool thing to do. All the popular celebrities are doing it. So he's up there with his drink and there is actually a quote I looked up from Miss Swerve.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Sounds exactly like it describes the situation. I left you out there standing crestfallen on the landing, champagne problems. It sounds exactly what he was doing was dumping some some vuv or some moway. Yeah. It was pepper. We support you if you come out and say
Starting point is 01:32:43 that it was Taylor Schwiss fault. Yes. 100% support you and have your back. So it's a very, it's a bad look. Bad thing to do. Scumbag move. I think it's, but yeah, like bad look doesn't even scumbag. Doesn't even qualify.
Starting point is 01:32:57 It's like it's the worst look you can have as an owner of an NFL franchise. Yeah. Listen, I'm not going to make excuses, Tepper might have some of that affluenza. You remember that defense that that kid gave a while ago? Yeah. You like grew up wealthy, so he didn't know that drunk driving was a crime. He might have affluenza to the point where
Starting point is 01:33:16 he's so rich that he cannot be held liable for anything that he does. He doesn't realize that was a crime. Yeah, I mean, say what you want about Dan Snyder, but he would never waste a glass of non-expired alcohol on a fan. That's true. David Tepper, your problem is not that you threw, well, your problem is that you threw a drink at a fan,
Starting point is 01:33:33 but your big problem is Mike Floreo's on your ass now. So Mike Floreo said throwing a drink on to paying customers violates the NFL's personal conduct policy, the NFL needs to make a swift and strong statement about Panthers owner David Tepper's behavior in Jacksonville. He's getting suspended. He might get suspended, which is a very funny thing to do for an owner. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:54 But I mean, could you imagine like that Panthers might become the most attractive job. David Tepper's no longer there to bother you. 100% it would. Yeah. Yeah, I just think I think personally the response from Gidele should be not to take away the panthers draft pick That seems too harsh. I would dock that I would move their draft pick down one slot Next I think that's fun. Next year you can can't take what's not yours But yeah, it was it was funny because he he threw the drink and then he tossed the cup and then he walked away
Starting point is 01:34:22 And he had his goon step in and said standing on business, Yeah, I can get up. Yeah. If you had gotten to a fight like a fight that you see in the stands From that suite with the fan. I would respect it that more But he liked through the drink and then walked away. It was a coward drink. Yeah. I David Tepper so dumb He might just like be like boy. He said something racist to me. Yeah, like what baldest where's where's David Tepper? Yeah What's David Tepper? Yeah. What's David Tepper's nationality or ethnicity? Let's find this.
Starting point is 01:34:51 Pittsburgh. He might have said something about Pittsburgh. Yeah. Well, he's one of those, I think there's like four owners in the NFL that used to be, here's where it is. He was a minority owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers so he considers himself to be a minority. Nord, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Like I wish you were stillie, yeah. Yeah. Like I wish you were still a minority owner. Yeah. Drink. Drink in your face. Yeah. But this is, uh, when I did it with his wife, she wasn't spilling any drinks if you don't know what I mean.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Yeah. I do. I do. I do know, you mean the, uh, I, it will be very interesting what happens, though, because you can't, he really is the worst owner very quickly. This is like, like so fast. It's cartoonish. It's like Kruela Deville stuff. Yeah. Which I, yeah, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he really is the worst owner, very quickly. This is like, so fast. It's cartoonish. It's like Kruila Deville stuff.
Starting point is 01:35:27 Yeah. Which, yeah, he's won away from like kicking a kid, like a sick kid, or like stealing a kid's like candy. Yeah, taking candy from a baby, running over a dog, that sort of thing. He might do all of these things. Yeah, like pushing a old lady in a wheelchair into an oncoming traffic. Yeah. David Tepper could do any of it. He is the worst. I'd still do love the story that he bought his former boss as mansion, just a bulldozer to the ground.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Yeah. That's, I have a, I have a, a fucked up question. Is David Tepper the one guy in America right now who it wouldn't be the worst views on the Epstein thing because then they wouldn't talk about the drink. That's true. It's like just bury the headline. I'm trying to weigh the pros and cons. Like there's there's there's levels to fires and he'd have to put out that fire before he puts out the drink.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Everyone forget about it for sure. Yeah. It would be it would immediately immediately his PR team would be focusing on a way bigger, different problem. Yeah. I wonder if so that one gets solved. I wonder if there's going to be anybody in sports that gets caught up in that. Whitlock. Whitlock. Whitlock. Whitlock. He was going to be my who's back in the week. But yeah, let's save that. I want you to tell the whole story. It's the tweet of the year. Yeah, it's it is It's it's 2024 ratio of the year for sure Okay, before we get to the game. We want to talk about
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Starting point is 01:38:05 That's not an answer. Pug. Pug. Pug was that the game? Pug was that the game? Pug. Pug. Pug, what were your thoughts on the game?
Starting point is 01:38:14 And two words or less. One of those were both. One of those Pug. That's a both. So, wait, how do we know that was Pug? This was embarrassing for the Eagles. The fans are upset. They want everybody fired. I saw some people want how he fired.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Some people want Nick Sireoni fired. Turning on all your guys disappointed. Or saying that maybe maybe Jaylen's not the guy anymore. People are upset at AJ. There's a lot of there's a lot of blame to go around. Gilly banned the players from going out of New Year's Eve. Band them from going out to celebrate. You can't celebrate something like that.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Max, you're perspective as an Eagles fan, how much did this game make you want to not exist anymore? No, there was a sense of relief. I stand. I know. I stand by. I stand by that there was a sense of relief because you... Now you just know this team is bad. There's no expectations at all going forward.
Starting point is 01:39:11 It's like a kind of a weight lifted off your shoulder. Because if they found a way to win that game late, you still would have been like, this team is really bad. But whatever we want, and we're still in play for the one C-BubbleBot. Now that they lost, it's like, this team's bad. This team is just legitimately bad. And there's no reason that they should win any playoff game rather than get the one C. Okay, so ranked the things that are bad about this team right now.
Starting point is 01:39:36 And in your mind, what are the top three problems? Coaching number one. Yeah. Next year, he remember we talked about this. Yeah, it's not so funny anymore. Yeah. And that was the whole thing is that, there was never a moment of like Philly galvanizing or like everyone thought that Nick Seriani was corny
Starting point is 01:39:53 all the time, but it was like, oh, he's winning, he's winning football game. So like we can handle the cornyness, we can handle him, doing the bullshit at the press conferences, wearing all of the, whatever. But now that he's losing, and losing because of him, or because of the coaching,
Starting point is 01:40:11 is just an easy reason to fulfill it, I'll feed you to just latch on how bad a coach is. And unlikeable guy, and piece of shit. He's a piece of shit. Yeah. He's a piece of shit. That seems personal.
Starting point is 01:40:24 That goes beyond coaching. He's bad coach. What. Yeah, he's a piece of shit. That seems personal that goes beyond coaching He's back coach. What about what about big Dom? Yeah, because they go maybe the they're oh and four is back in two weeks though Oh, you beat the giants. I forgot about that. Yeah, you forgot about that yesterday. I know I did yeah you are since since I Hate when when people are like oh this team won their week, you know, seven Super Bowl. But since you beat the chiefs and Nick Serrani walked in the tunnel and said, see ya.
Starting point is 01:40:54 And like held his crotch and did that whole thing. You guys are two and four. Yeah. Well, one of those was the bells the next week. So it's really since the bills. You know what the worst is? The worst is you thought you had such a big window. And now it seems like there might not be a window at all.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Yeah, I don't know. Paying the quarterback, you pay the quarterback the window closes. Yeah, so do you actually, are you upset with the contract? Are you upset with Jalen? I mean, I'm not upset with the contract. I'm upset with the team. Like, that's just how the NFL works right now. Good quarterbacks need that money.
Starting point is 01:41:32 But then the team just isn't as it's a say, like the cheat. I don't think the cheesers and ones you were bold this year. Scale, scale one to 10 though, but the cheese to you have a home playoff game. It's good point. And they won their division. That's the first stuff out of home playoff game. It's good point and they won their division That's the first step out home playoff game after what just happened yesterday But that's the first step, you know when you do the whole thing got to win your division Yeah, then you got to win a playoff game. They chiefs did win their division. Who I don't care about winning divisions Like we're not we're not hanging band band that's the first one is fucking division are you only saying that because you're not winning your
Starting point is 01:42:03 Divison I think they quite literally put up the banner Definitely that's definitely like in every there's no maybe they put vision champs with the years. Yeah, yeah What the years that's a better no no no you know what the fuck see you guys always do this you know what the fuck I'm saying like the actual no No, no, no they do I think you've been to a sports stadium the banner is like No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like putting the year on a banner that already fucking exists. That's not the banner. You're talking about banner night. You all know what the fucking banner is.
Starting point is 01:42:48 No one fucking cares about winner though flying there. Actually, I'm looking right now. I'm seeing 2019 NFC East Division Champions 2013 NFC East Division Champions. There's a Super Bowl banner. There's individual banners. Oh no. All right, fine.
Starting point is 01:43:04 I don't whatever No, what was a fuck about winning the division well no the banners But there's banners I'm looking at also need to get a home playoff game. Yeah, you get a home playoff game Which how so Talk me through that last drive Exactly we know this show be like I'm not gonna get worked up. And then he's like we don't hang banners.
Starting point is 01:43:30 That last drive was pretty bad backs. Quarterback quarterback run minus four yards quarterback run minus six yards. Time out with four minutes to go Bubble screen. What the fuck is that? It was how is that winning football? How is it? How does that happen? Max, skill one to tend though. How confident are you still that Jalen Hertz is a guy? Jalen Hertz played a good football game. You can't see the question. Jalen Hertz is the guy. Crucial drive, he lost 10 yards combined in two plays.
Starting point is 01:44:05 It's fucking play calling. There was no word for him. I haven't especially got that. The Andre Swift. The Andre Swift. It's especially like one. What? It's actually Max from right after the game.
Starting point is 01:44:18 He sent us a personal video. So let's make sure this gets on the podcast. Today's December 31st. Where did you do this whole thing? No, we don't do the whole thing. This is your extended cameo. Philadelphia Eagles may as well be the worst team in the NFL this year. Their offense is putrid. Well, the offense actually played pretty well today.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Jalen Hertz has got to be better decision making. That last drive where you have to go win the football game, you have to make better plays to finish a drive and put seven points on the board. If there's a quarterback run to the right, the fact that you think that you can. That was bad. That was bad. But then score points on that. And lose seven yards is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. It sounds like you don't think he's the guy. Yeah. You're having doubts. No, I'm not. Jalen hurts. Wait, look at his game. He had a good, we had a good game yesterday. How's the map Patricia? He didn't get the ball. Matt Patricia is bad. The defense is just bad.
Starting point is 01:45:22 There's nothing you can do. So back to my question that you didn't answer on Friday and I'm had memes answer, how do you feel knowing that your season's gonna end tragically? And there's nothing you can do about it. It ended tragically yesterday. Oh, it's over. Yesterday was the tragic end.
Starting point is 01:45:38 So you will be watching the playoff game? Yeah, playing spoiler. In the playoff game. Oh. Oh. game. Yeah playing spoiler. What if you win the playoff game? No, what happened? What if you win the show for 2024? They're just trying to spoil everyone. Jake was very helpful. He sent over a tweet from the Philadelphia Eagles here. It is a tweet from July 24th 2020. It says it's
Starting point is 01:46:08 been a banner day. Shut the fuck up. Fly Eagles fly and it's the banner hanging day that they're celebrating. That's cool. Those are in COVID so they were. Yeah, COVID's a shit. Yeah. Who gives a fuck about winning divisions? Who gives a fuck about winning divisions? It's important. It's not important. You're a team though. Winning Super Bowl is important. Hey, credit to Jonathan Ganon, by the way, for keeping the Cardinals playing, you know, they're, they're, they're frisky. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Playing teams tough. Seemed a little personal. Players are playing hard form. Where did he come from? I hate this show. He's a, what did you call him earlier, Nick Seriani? He's a coordinator merchant. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:47 I mean, Shane Stuyke, Shane Stuyke and must have been the head coach last year. So do you think there's a chance that Seriani gets fired? Uh, like more, more so than not. I think there's a chance. Whoa. Even if they make the playoffs, that would be the,
Starting point is 01:47:02 well, they are in the playoffs. So they make the playoffs and they spoil somebody in the if they lose in the if they lose in the first round that's where the line is gone okay holy shit what a fall from grace yeah that would be I don't know what he does I don't know like shains they can going on and doing what he's
Starting point is 01:47:20 doing and then the often offense looking what it is without him is insane. Like he has to be gone. He's so bad. He has to be gone. And how he, how he's fine. Okay, but didn't get any linebackers.
Starting point is 01:47:36 Linebackers are atrociously bad. He tried. I like shackle entered that that. I don't mind throwing it dark and giving it a chance, but he's bad Nick Morrow is a joke out there. I mean our two linebackers must run run 40s that are over a five five They suck and the Shut up Hank Feel bad Shut up, Hank. I feel bad for you.
Starting point is 01:48:05 I agree with you, Hank, being a little bitch today, Max. We can agree on that. Yeah. Yeah, we can agree on that. I'm sad for you. No, you're not. I hate you guys.
Starting point is 01:48:15 No, I hate when you guys lie. No, no, no, I'm not lying. Because this, I didn't want you to, like, you have given up. So it's not, the pain is not there anymore anymore. Like we didn't get to see it. We I wish we had been together for the Cardinals Eagles game. We're getting robbed of that because the playoffs are going to come and when you lose in the playoffs, you're going to be like, I knew they're going to lose in the playoffs. They stink. So we've been wrong. So I am sad for you. You're sad for you. I'm sad for you to. You're sad for you. No, but I'm sad for you because I wanted your sadness to be more around us. I'm sad for the listeners. Yeah. It's a dark day. I think you'll figure out a way to get
Starting point is 01:48:51 back up for him. Yeah. What if they beat the giants by like 20? They're dead. All right. So we we now and Max will say we're not being honest. I think we hanked PFT and I, we need to root for the Eagles to win a playoff game. Because that will get him back, right? Mm-hmm. So he plays, if you win him, Cowboys. Listen, if you win a playoff game, it depends how they win. Oh, okay. He's already a little back.
Starting point is 01:49:19 He's already a little back. You go on the road to Tampa Bay, maybe. He's already a little back, folks. You beat Tampa Bay. Yes, it's more so. B back, folks, you beat Tampa Bay. Yes, yes, mushroom, instant fashion, smash that,
Starting point is 01:49:28 shut him out. It would take three score. It would take three score first round playoff win for me to be back. And then I'm fully back. You tell me you wouldn't get up for a game against the Cowboys. I would get up, but we would lose going to Dallas. The defense loser. T is the the defense around game.
Starting point is 01:49:50 The division is important. What do you mean it's important? Yeah, playing spoiler. Yeah, you can spoil the cowboys. Yeah. Yeah. In the second round of the first over spoiler and a playoff.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Yeah, you spoil the cowboys. Then you go to the NFC championship game. Well, it would probably be against that wouldn't it would probably be against the Niners. You probably you have to go. Yeah. Unless the line unless there's not said. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm what? I'm happy. I actually know you're. You're happy? No, I'm rooting for you. I'm rooting for you to win a playoff game. We Hank, yeah, same. I'm in PFT. Yeah, yeah. We're all rooting for you to win a playoff. I want to see you happy before I see you say. Right. Exactly. We need to get you back up before we can tear you down again. We you you got torn down
Starting point is 01:50:40 when we were all on vacation. It's We didn't get our fill. The max of Wana, we didn't get to smoke it. Yeah, I don't know what you want me to say. And he's just like, I hate this. He's down bad. I thought the Eagles were going to win that game convincingly. They were up. Yeah, well, they actually had the Cardinals had the ball for two-thirds of the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:11 They kind of controlled the clock. Also, Max, is you know that the Eagles are 30th in the NFL on third-down defense? Yeah, it sounds about right. Like almost the worst. I saw someone write an article, Max, that said that was the worst Eagles loss in the last 10 years. Yeah, sure. You think that? the worst Eagles loss in the last 10 years. Yeah, sure. You think that?
Starting point is 01:51:27 I mean, what about the Super Bowl? Super Bowl. Yeah, but that's different. Like they played well in the Super Bowl. Yeah. This is a stat that I that 28 days ago, the Eagles were 10 and one. Jalen Hertz was the clear MVP favorite. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:51:43 They had the number one rushed defense in the NFL. Oh man. Number six overall defense. Number four passing offense. Your foot wasn't hurt. Yeah. Oh, put that on a banner. That is.
Starting point is 01:51:55 That's a banner. That's a banner. 28 years ago. I'm just wondering how does everything change? So it is pretty crazy. How fast they have fallen to a point where now you're talking about firing this coach who went to a Super Bowl last year and was 28 days ago say it again. I can't read it all. Okay. Now just two one more time. I talked over you for part of it. I'm sorry. Eagles
Starting point is 01:52:17 were 10 and one. Jalen Hertz was a clear MVP favorite number one rush defense in the NFL, number six overall defense, number four passing offense, number four rushing offense. That seems good. What happened? What happened? 28 day gauntlet. I told you the gauntlet was kind of... No, this was in the middle of the gauntlet.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Yeah, I know. The gauntlet. But the gauntlet caught you. You could say that before the gauntlet, but this was in the gauntlet. Right. No, I said that before the gauntlet. I said the gauntlet's gonna get you. And it did.
Starting point is 01:52:48 But the end of, I guess the end of the gauntlet got us. Yeah, you got tired from the gauntlet. The cardinals are part of the gauntlet. Yeah, the gauntlet's still cool. And we lost to the fucking jets. You got the gauntlet next week with the giants. That jets win isn't looking as good memes. No.
Starting point is 01:53:08 We're playing BCS. It's crazy the Cardinals could finish with four wins. And depending on how week 18 goes, three out of four of the wins are going to be against playoff teams. Yeah. That's the Steelers Cowboys and the Eagles. That's awesome if you're getting. Yeah. You can point at that and you can build on that. Yeah. He's's kind of a I'd say the Cardinals might be Not like the Lions of last year. No, but they're they're feisty only one four games Okay, speaking of Steelers 30 C. Hawks 23 Mike Tomlin 17 straight years going over 500 This guy he gets to his ninth win. It's incredible. I know Steelers fans are like not the
Starting point is 01:53:50 happiest with Mike Tomman right now because they judge it in Pittsburgh. They judge it by rings. They're not hanging banners for winning the ad. So they judge it by rings. And they haven't been in the Super Bowl in what 13 years. But for everyone else in the NFL who roots for bad franchises, that's an insane stat. Yeah, it's our dream. I would love that so much if I if I were a Steelers fan, but their defense, their past rush is awesome. No matter what else you can say about the team, Tomlin's put together good defense.
Starting point is 01:54:19 They've got some stuff to be excited about there and Mason Rudolph is not bad. So Mason Rudolph, Tomlin announced earlier today, if Kenny's ready to go, they're staying with Mason. Who? So they're going to ride the hot hand. And the seals might be getting hot at the right time. Yeah. And also Mason Rudolph realizes that George Pickens is really good and throwing the ball.
Starting point is 01:54:39 And also limits the crazy outbursts if you just keep them happy. Right. He's, yeah, yeah, the Steelers are Steelers have turned around to like, I'm, they're playing good ball. Naji Harris, you see that stiff arm? Yeah, they're sick. Little boydom. Yeah. Big time. You little small. And the C-OX are, uh, I feel like they have to hit another reset button. They've kind of been delaying the reset button because the quarterback situation, I don't think they truly believe that Gino is the long-term answer, right? No, the contract they gave him shows that they don't.
Starting point is 01:55:09 They don't, so they're probably going to address that at some point soon. But the rest of the team is really good. I know they have so many guys. It's like, yeah. And the season just kind of got away from them. If they had a really good quarterback, the Seahawks would be a contender. Should we blame the stadium? Should we blame the fans? Sure. You couldn't go. You couldn't go and see I don't win a game there.
Starting point is 01:55:30 There are more folks on Huskies games this year. Yeah. You can't have both. I'd agree. I'd agree. Okay. We're wrapping up Broncos 16, Chargers 6. Broncos eliminated. Yep. They're done. And more news has trickled out about the Russell Wilson situation where they're actually like filing a grievance. They did file a grievance with the NFLPA when they told Russ back after they beat the chiefs. You have to change your contract or else you're going
Starting point is 01:55:58 to get benched. And now Russ, he's in this weird position where he does have like the people are rooting for Russ. Yeah, no, I felt bad for him when I saw that press conference. Like they told me that they were going to bench me. If I didn't change my whole contract, we were winning game. We had just beaten the cheese. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:14 So it's weird timing. I also don't I imagine that this sort of thing happens a lot in the NFL. We just don't hear about it. And they probably don't tell the players straight up. Right. Like, hey, you need to take this much less money. Right. Or else we're just gonna bench you for a while.
Starting point is 01:56:28 So I think it happens a lot. The fact that it happened to Russ feels like there's probably some other owners and GMs out there that are pissed off that this news got out. Yes. It's like this is kind of, Yes. We had a pretty good thing going until George Patton
Starting point is 01:56:41 had to talk to Russ Wilson about it. And then he gets on the phone with his agent and now it's a big news story. Yes, I'd agree with you on that and as for this game, yeah, Jared's did him. Good job. Yeah, this game's stunk. Yeah, this game's stunk. Last one, Chiefs Bengals, Chiefs 25, Bengals 17, credit to us. We were the first to tell you that the Chiefs were going to win the AFC West. They just won their eighth We were the first to tell you that the chiefs were gonna win the AFC West. Mm-hmm. They just won their eighth Straight AFC West title. I think we said that in December of last year. Yeah, you know what they would do that again
Starting point is 01:57:17 Congratulations to the chiefs for winning. Yeah, the 2024 AFC. Yeah, let's do it good job guys That's nine straight one of the top of the reminder. No, we did it. That's our reminder. Just said it Okay, we just said they won the AFC West next year. They're gonna do it. Yeah, they we did it that's a reminder just said it okay. We just said they won the FCS next year they're gonna do it yeah they already did it yeah they just did it we just congratulate I have a take about the chiefs yeah I think they might be dangerous who because I think that this is the one time where the chiefs actually have the nobody believes in this card that they can play that's right and they try to play it all the time remember when Travis Kelsey was like nobody believes in us because the mayor of Cincinnati said he thought the bangles were gonna win? They will dig through the trash.
Starting point is 01:57:50 They will go through a dumpster to find disrespect. Now the entire world is talking shit about them. I mean, I've always sought their dangers because it's patchable homes. Yeah, also that. Yeah, patchable homes in the playoffs. Like I've wanted to count out the chiefs of million times and be like, no chance I could win the Super Bowl, but it's patch were homes in the playoffs like I've I've wanted to count out the chiefs of million times and be like no chance
Starting point is 01:58:05 I could win the Super Bowl, but it's patch were homes. Yeah, I think that part makes it so that they could always win the Super Bowl I think they're very scary in the playoffs. Yeah, I mean they're they won this game with defense in that second half They completely shut down the Bengals and kicking they kicked six straight field goals. Yeah to win by eight and at some point They have to find receiver at some point. It's got to goals. Yeah. To win by eight. And at some point, they have to find a receiver. At some point, it's got to happen. Yeah. And also special teams. Did you see Richie James return a punt from the head zone? That was special. Yep. That was very special. Yeah. They have a lot of bad things, but they have patch of mobs in a defense that can bow up. And I get the feeling like they're
Starting point is 01:58:46 going to be ready to go into playoffs. Yeah, I don't know. Did you see Jamar Chase get into it with Sneed? Yeah. Said he wouldn't fight him. He got he got locked up. Yeah. So check the stats. He needs to check the stats. I also love the name Lajarius. Lajarius. Almost as good as we should have mentioned it. Little was a little Jordan. Little as we should have mentioned it. Little Jordan. Little Jordan, huh? For, yeah. Little Jordan, Humphrey did Square Touchdown. Yeah. Great name. But yeah, I liked that the Bengals and chiefs hate each other. I would like to see the chiefs just run the ball, run the ball, run the ball.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Like convert your offense into being an old school smash mouth. I got two words in a problem. Pacheco. Yeah. Just let him stomp people out. So I got two words in a problem. Pacheco. Yeah. Just let him stop people out. So I got two words in a problem for that. Andy Reed. Yeah. That's a problem. Well, does Matt Negi like to run the ball? Jet sweeps.
Starting point is 01:59:34 Okay, that's his start. That's his start. It would just be interesting to see with that defense that they have. Yeah. Play ball control, football, and then let Patrick Mahomes handle a deep throw over here. Yeah, take a shot. Yeah, I have Tony drop a deep throw just to keep the defense off
Starting point is 01:59:49 honest. Yeah. No, they're there. I passed from homes. I'll never count on patch from homes. Mm-hmm. He's the new the new Tom Brady in that respect. I don't think count them out. I don't think that Tony even played this weekend, which was nice. That might be. Oh, no, yeah, you might be right. He might not. That might be the key. Yeah. Edition by subtraction. That's not funny. Me. It was like, uh, uh, Caterius Tony needs three more drops to get a hundred thousand dollar bonus. It's pretty good. I like that. I love week 18 when everyone's figured, tries to figure out they're like, they've hacked gambling because it's very public thing about incentives. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:24 Like they still have to play. Still have to do it. But sometimes you can get a beat on a guy that a coordinator or a quarterback likes. Yeah. He's going to get five catches. True. True. Uh, okay. Last game. Packers 33 Vikings 10. Packers just kicked a shit out of the Viking. So we're in love. Looked awesome. I still don't understand why they started Jaren Hall. I don't really get it either, but I guess they want to evaluate it in a must win game. Like, I know Nick Mullins through four interceptions,
Starting point is 02:00:53 but Nick Mullins can at least maybe get into a shootout and win you a game. Yeah, I think this was a case of, this has kind of happened with the Vikings in the backup situation all year, where some guy will be hot for a second. And so their coach is like, I want to, I want to just magically figure out which guy is going to be hot. Right. And I'm getting a good feeling about Jaron Hall.
Starting point is 02:01:16 He'll be hot, lightning in a bottle. He chose wrong guy. Yeah, didn't work. But yeah, Jordan Love looked incredible. Jordan Love also, there was a lot of insult stats going around that he has more touchdowns than any bear in the history of the franchise. Might never mind you, it's 18 weeks season now. So 17 games, not that impressive. Yep, good point. Yep, so keep throwing that sat around and I'll keep saying 17 games.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Anyone can do it in 17 games. Kirk Cousins was also in the crowd with his shirt off. Yeah, that was interesting. That's probably why they got their shit kicked out. games. Kirk Cousins was also in the crowd with a shirt off. Yeah, I was interested. Didn't really work. That's probably why they got their shit kicked out. It's Kirk Cousins gonna come back? I think is, I would guess that he's gonna come back to the Vikings. I do, I think that's what's gonna happen. Because he's a family guy.
Starting point is 02:01:55 He probably doesn't spend any of his money that he's getting. Nope. He'd probably be okay with taking a pay cut just to avoid the nuisance of having to move your family to a new city. Right. That's the vibe I get from Kirk. Right. He has to get like a, find a new coals to go shop at. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff. I wouldn't, I mean, you've seen what's happened this year. It's kind of like a ringing endorsement of Kirk cousins because you had a team that couldn't figure out the quarterback situation and Kirk cousins is consistency. Yep. Yeah. So Kirk cousins back to the Vikings. We're announcing that right now. Okay. Anything else. I mean, we can't. Let's just look at the schedule real quick. There's,
Starting point is 02:02:33 there is some fun like playoff seating. There's a lot of teams that don't have to play for anything. That Bill's Dolphins thing is going to be awesome to watch on Sunday night football. We have a we have a playoff game on Saturday night, Texans vs. Colts. It's a win and get in. And then other than that, I think it's like a lot of teams are locked in their seats. I've got one more stat. This is kind of an insult stat, but more of a pro Joe Flacco stat. Okay. Joe Flacco has one more touchdown to tie DeShon Watson for most touchdowns thrown.
Starting point is 02:03:04 Or to tie DeShon Watson for a touchdowns thrown or to tie Dishon Watson for a amount of touchdowns thrown as a brown. Wow. Thought that was interesting. That is an interesting stat. They have a decision to make. Who do you think is going to be in the playoffs if we fast forward to next Sunday night? Do you think it's going to be the bills?
Starting point is 02:03:21 I think it's going to be the bills. And then the Texans. Let me do the playoff machine real quick. Oh, you think it's gonna be the bills? I think it's gonna be the bills and then the Texans Let me do the playoff machine real quick. Oh, you think cults. I kind of feel in the cults too That games in Indianapolis We need to give away tickets huge game. Yeah, huge Saturday night. He's huge. We do I also told our guy over there that we might go to a playoff game if they host one I think I said that yeah, yeah, think what we're going to be looking at here is the bills. Yeah. The chiefs obviously. Yeah. I also think the Colts. Yeah. Browns. You think the Jaguars might lose? I think the jaguars might lose. So the jaguars would be potentially out if the Steelers ends up winning. I'm doing the math right now.
Starting point is 02:04:12 If the Steelers win, it would be the Steelers as the seven seed jaguars out. Yeah. And we'd have the Browns at the Colts. Wow. Yeah. AFC is muddled. And the NFC I think it's probably gonna be 49ers Cowboys Lions box in order Eagles Rams and then the Seahawks Because the bear is gonna beat the Packers that's so much harder what NFC the NFC you think so? What about the dangerous what about what about the browns the bills the chiefs the Ravens Those are all good teams. I feel like the NFC is trending down I actually think the lions are now like Why why aren't the the lions the second best team in the NFC? Yeah, but they lost the cowboys. Yeah, that's true. They did
Starting point is 02:05:04 Either way, I'm very excited. I actually think that the Cardinals might beat the C-Ox. If the Cardinals beat the C-Ox, they should be in. That would make the Eagle spot. That would make the Saints getting into the playoffs against Dallas. They should just make one random game, week 18, win and get in, just that has no it has no reason to be winning get in. Like the Broncos and the Raiders win and get in just that has no. It has no reason to be winning get in like the Broncos and the Raiders win and get in. That'd be fun. Why not just throwing an extra playoff spot. Okay, let's wrap up.
Starting point is 02:05:35 We got who's back of the week. It is a rowback question, RHO BACK.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase rowback.com promo code take 20% off Go right now QZPolo's hoodies jogger shorts fleeces everything rowback.com Henry who's back the week first of all great to see you. Okay, so you guys missed you this week How was your week off my week off was was delightfulend some time with some family spent some time with some friends. Oh, that's great It was very fulfilled life very relaxing. I played any golf. Did play some golf nice saw some music Went on bourbon street. Oh, listen to it. What were you on? Listen to it. Oh, you felt the music you see music when you watch it, right?
Starting point is 02:06:24 Well, if you're you hear, maybe under the influence of something. Yeah, I guess I guess I watched music. I listened to music live, I watched it with my eyes. Got it. And saw some shit. I felt it. Yeah, I felt the music. Nice.
Starting point is 02:06:38 It seemed like you're actually in pretty good shape for being in New Orleans with a bunch of friends. How old was the music? What? I'm just curious if old was the music? What? I'm just curious if you felt the music. What? I'm just curious.
Starting point is 02:06:50 OK, now go on, go on. Yeah, I feel good. I do vacations as much as you should as you give. It's very nice. When you have a fun one, and then you come back and you feel rejuvenated and excited to be back, which I am. Dry January. Actually? Yeah, I'm not going to do anything
Starting point is 02:07:07 until the standup show. Max and I are going to lift. I'll be lifting as well. I'll be doing work out. I need I need something to talk about. I need to clear my mind to PFT. Yeah. Hank, today is January 1st.
Starting point is 02:07:19 It's actually January 2nd right now. I noticed that you walked into the gambling cave with two beers today. Yeah, I did walk in with a chorus like that was for a video of log. I did, I had one beer. Okay, so that was like, there's a huge, huge, huge difference between drinking beer because you're doing a work thing
Starting point is 02:07:44 and getting drunk. Yeah, no You're doing pretty much drive January so you're saying like entertaining clients entertaining clients Yeah, like if if there is a home Dallas playoff game. I might undrive that weekend might get wet that weekend My who's back the week is wait. Are you gonna? I want I do you have your dactors? He's still I Think Shane has it. I also have go have I have no I have I have gear coming Okay, Tom My his back the week is Conor McGregor. Oh, what do you do? He is can always be bad. He's no he's fighting He's fighting again in June 185. Oh
Starting point is 02:08:19 Big boy I forgot the name the guy is fighting doesn't matter. He's gonna kill him. It's a Colby. There's only one Connor McGregor. Michael Chandler. Okay. Oh no. We like Michael Chandler and Julian's 29.
Starting point is 02:08:32 We're rooting for Michael Chandler. What? I think he's like a bar still guy and I think he's friends with the Boston boys. I think we're Michael Chandler. I have no issue with Michael Chandler. I'm rooting for Michael Chandler but I'm a Gregor. Gregor winning is the best. Okay. I'm rooting for Michael Chan. Michael Chanler, but I'm a Gregor. Gregor winning is the best.
Starting point is 02:08:45 Okay. I am rooting for Michael Chanler because he will 100% be at beer Olympics when we're competing PFT. So we should root for Michael Chanler. Just in case the same reason why we root for Marvin Harrison Jr. All the time.
Starting point is 02:08:57 Yep. Michael Chanler, we're big fans of you. McGregor, I'm a big fan of you. Okay. Will you be at beer Olympics? Yeah, you should come now, actually. That's Hank will have to be, Hank will do the video. So how heavy is McGregor normally?
Starting point is 02:09:13 Way, this is, one eighty five seems like a lot. He's a small dude. He's a big dude. He's a big dude. He's looking chalk, huge. I love it when fighters do that at the end of their career. They step up and wait class just because they're out of shape. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, okay PFT your who's back My who's back the week I have to if that's okay
Starting point is 02:09:32 First one is Mickey Mouse. Oh, oh Mickey Mouse is back because the original Mickey Mouse steamboat will he just entered the public domain Meaning anybody can now use that version of Mickey Mouse and design So we should make sure we should make part of version of Mickey Mouse and design. So we should make a pretty much. We should make part of my take Mickey Mouse shirts. Yeah. What about that? Can we do that?
Starting point is 02:09:50 Yeah. Steamboat Willie, part of my take shirts. You can't get on that. Love it. No A's and Mickey Mouse, so you're good. My other who's back in the week is Jason Whitlock. Jason Whitlock's back, front of the program. He tweeted out today, he was looking at the ESPN.com website,
Starting point is 02:10:06 doing some research on what the NFL standings were, and he took a picture of the screen with his phone, he said, I'm looking at standings on ESPN.com. This is the ad running above the standings. How is this possible? Appropriate? The ad in question was a card that said, balls deep inside of me is a great way to spend your birthday.
Starting point is 02:10:25 A nice, fun little birthday card. As many people pointed out, those ads are based on your search history. They're cookies. Something that Jason Whitlock is intimately familiar with. Wasn't there more on the description of like what? It was a great gift for your boyfriend or your partner. It's a one pack, funny, happy birthday.
Starting point is 02:10:44 Him, husband, boyfriend, birthday gives decorations. That's what the rest of it is cut off and it's got the shop now button right on there. So the internet has very politely answered his question about how it is possible, but Jason Whitlock has yet to tweet about any sort of reaction to the advice he's been getting. Ooh, okay.
Starting point is 02:11:04 So remember clear that browsing history, Jason. Yeah, I love when that the advice he's been getting. Ooh. Okay. So remember clear that browsing history, Jason? Yeah, that's, I love when that happens. That's an old school thing. Like that hasn't happened in a long time. That was, I remember when, when Google ads first came on the scene, people would do that in like the bar still comment section and just out themselves for like
Starting point is 02:11:20 looking at dildos and shit. There was something, somebody tweeted out a screenshot of like a gay cruise. Yeah, I forget what that, somebody tweeted out a screenshot of like a gay cruise. Yeah, I forget what that was. Like tickets to go on a gay cruise. He's like, why am I being served this ad? Who was that guy? I was like a politics guy.
Starting point is 02:11:32 I saw a nude cruise when I was in Mexico a couple of years ago. Wild. It's just everyone was naked. It's never the people that you want to see naked. There's a lot of Germans. Yeah. And they were just like, I don't know how you, I don't understand how you go on a nude cruise
Starting point is 02:11:49 and you're not like just rock hard. Just all banging each other. Yeah, I just be rock hard and be kind of awkward. Like none of the dudes were like rock hard and they were like chick grinding on them and stuff. Yeah, I was on a train one time in Spain and we were going by a beach. And then on the beach there was just a giant brown tarp Spain and we were going by a beach and then on the beach
Starting point is 02:12:05 There was just a giant brown tarp. That was probably like a hundred feet wide and there were about 60 people just standing naked on it looking at each other Who not doing anything just standing there like we're naked. Oh, this is us Nudist I would I would interview a nudist on the show. Yeah Nude nude have to be nude Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna swim right next to Hank. Yeah. All right. That's a summer thing we should do. Like it. Yeah. Definitely. Like what's it like being nood all the time? Breaking noods. Yeah. New segment. Why not? Um, all right. My who's back in the week is a certain, uh, oh Jake, do you have a pancake update? I'm awaiting. I'm on one from not out from we 16. I'm waiting on that too. Wait, what do you mean you're waiting on one? I'm waiting to you're waiting on where two weeks behind on the okay. Yeah, that's very important but
Starting point is 02:12:55 Speaking of a player that I had to drop recently in our baseball draft Wander Franco is back in the news because I think he's like running from the law I believe okay, I might have shown up to court in his home country, but I I bring it up because There's a guy who tweeted Greg Aaron Berg said two years ago my brother wanted tops redemption for a random piece of MLB Memorobiliar from an all-star player. Yesterday, it finally came in the mail. They sent him a pair of pants used by Wander Franco. I'm actually nervous this could be a piece of evidence. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 02:13:31 Definitely a piece of evidence. I also, when I saw this tweet, I immediately was like, Revelle's definitely gonna try to own this. Yeah, he's gonna own those pants for me. He's got it on this. See how much Wander Franco memorabilia does he think he has? At least one piece.
Starting point is 02:13:44 How much post the news that he might be a pedophile? Is it worth more if it has DNA on it? Mm. Probably, yeah. Yeah, probably to Revelle. But yes, definitely to Revelle. Two years, two years waiting and that's what you get. When you get the seamen authenticated.
Starting point is 02:13:58 That's a good job by the MLB. Really on top of it. The lawyer definitely had all his pants and was like, we get rid of the disease. Yes, definitely. All right, Jake, finish us off. Happy New Year, guys. Happy New Year, Jake.
Starting point is 02:14:12 My who's back of the week is Outdoor Hockey. We at the Winter Classic. Oh, yeah. And Big Cat, you and Blupper are not the only bar still employee versus mascot rivalry. I saw this, yeah. Because our friend Biz beat up the Seattle Kraken's booey. He hit him with a microphone.
Starting point is 02:14:30 Yeah. So for biz, put him in a fight back. Yeah. Maskos can't get away with it. Masked him, Matt's you and Biz against booey and blooper. I am blooper when you guys are talking about that. I would fuck blooper up. Yeah, so bad.
Starting point is 02:14:41 Yeah. Max, is this way for us to get our friendship back together What just hitting blooper. Yeah, we hate blooper. Yeah, Max also Nova basketball Good Yeah, they're probably gonna lose they got a couple cupcakes on the schedule coming up. They're gonna lose Bad Our our boys down so bad. Yeah, again. It's just late. It's something. Yeah, but those teams are from Philly. It is late, but still everybody be nice to Max when you listen to this because he had
Starting point is 02:15:10 to stay up very late and then all of his team sucks. So don't complain about the button being pressed. And he hates the show. I'm sorry for yelling into the mic. That's about to eat that. We wanted we wanted passion. We got passion. I mean, we didn't I wasn't planning.
Starting point is 02:15:23 I never thought that it would come up with the banners Yeah, that you that's your history. We don't hang banners. We don't hang bands. Oh, no, no, no, I'm sorry for y'all You don't celebrate banners you personally don't record no I personally don't give a fuck about Divisional banners. They should take the banners down. They should the why do you hate Dallas so much? I like beating Dallas. Because. Because I don't like them. They play in your division.
Starting point is 02:15:53 They do. They're playing for a division title. Yeah. You're playing for a lot of things. Yeah. Wait, would this continue the streak in the NFC East of not having a repeat division champion? Yeah. Going, would this continue the streak in the NFC East of not having a repeat division champion going back to what 2006?
Starting point is 02:16:08 It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. NFC beast beat each other up. Beat the fuck out of each other. Okay. Good show. Reminder we have a show on Friday because we're scheduled this week and then we'll be back to Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
Starting point is 02:16:21 All right. I think we're going to have a very special guest on Friday. We have a couple of very special guests coming up. Oh, one hiccup. All right, numbers. 48. I think he hiccups when he gets sad. Yeah, 20.
Starting point is 02:16:36 I'm rooting for you here, Max. I'm rooting for Pug. 71. 53. I'm saying I'm with Pug. Three. I'm rooting for Pug. Three. 10. Why are you gonna root for Pug, Max? All right, I'm sorry. 53 Three
Starting point is 02:16:47 Ten why are you gonna root for pug max? Oh? I'm ready for that but she's never gonna get it 95 Love you guys I love the guys. I'm kind of a real artist Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I need less to say Say it, it's a feeling Tell me a little bit Tell me a little bit Tell me, say it for me I'm better to be safe than someone Say it for me I'm better to be safe than someone
Starting point is 02:18:18 Hey, come on I'm better than you Hey, I'm better than you Hey, I'm better than you Come on, let's sing a song Sing a song Sing a song Sing a song Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Change on me Change on me Change on me Change on me Change on me
Starting point is 02:19:30 Change on me Change on me Change on me Change on me Change on me Change on me Change on me Change on me Change on me Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

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