Pardon My Take - Will Compton & Taylor Lewan, Chris Paul And The Suns Are Dead, Plus Hank Sat On The Floor For Game 7

Episode Date: May 16, 2022

We start with some NBA talk and the Suns submitting one of the worst Game 7 performances of all time (also credit to the Mavs).(00:02:29-00:07:47) Hank is on zoom because he sat on the floor for Game 7 of Celtics/Bucks and we talk about his emotions and terrible fist pumps. (00:07:50-00:28:36) Who's back of the week including the Reds losing with a no hitter. (00:29:48-00:44:26) Will Compton and Taylor Lewan join the show in studio to catch up, talk about their podcast Bussin with the Boys, NFL, and tons more. (00:45:45-01:44:31) We finish with NHL talk and PFT and Jake's trip to DC on Friday night. (01:46:06-02:08:22)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we've got our good friends Taylor Luan and Will Compton in studio, the bussing with the boys, boys.

Great interview with them, touch everything. We also have some conference finals set. So Hank is gonna be on Zoom. He was on the wood, on the floor for the Celtics beating the Bucks in game seven. We're also taping this at halftime of the Mavs Suns because we're calling it, we're calling it. It could be a historic comeback, but we are calling it.

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Now in the street there is violence and not a lot of stuff worth to be done. No place to hang out or wash in and then I can't stay all on the sun. We're gonna rock it down to electric, I brand new. And then we'll take it higher. Oh, we're gonna rock it down to electric. It's part of my take.

There's enough of our two sports. Welcome to part of my take, presented by Visible.com slash pod, get unlimited single line wireless for as low as $25 a month when you go to Visible.com slash pod. Today is Monday, May 16th and the suns are dead, the Mavericks are alive,

the Celtics are alive and the Bucks are dead. All right, so little caveat here. We are taping this at the halftime. Right now the score is Luka Donchich 27, the Phoenix suns 27. Chris Paul, one. It's actually so much funny that Chris Paul only has one point.

And then if he had zero points at halftime. Yes, one point is hard to do. Listen, PFT, we know ball, he's downloading the information. Second half he's going to be going off. He's plugged in. He's gonna figure out, he's just updating it right now. He's updating the code back in the locker room. When he comes out, it's over for the Mavs.

But this is, we decided to do this at halftime because either one, we look smart by saying the suns are deader than dead this is an embarrassing performance, game seven at home. Or we will get to relive this as the dumbest thing we've ever done when they come back and have the craziest victory of all time. I don't think it's that dumb.

I mean, let's say, let's say that Chris Paul hypothetically quadruples his output from the first half. And he ends up with five points on the game total. Yeah, they're done. The suns are cooked. The sun has expired. The suns, to paraphrase my good friend, Meek Mill, the suns is a disgrace.

They're a disgrace. I'm going to call it right now. I'm going to use a hard D bomb. A disgrace. What's that, Hank? A fraud. I love Meek Mill. Okay, so here's what we'll do.

Let's talk Celtics first then we'll revisit after we watch the first five minutes of the third quarter. But the suns are done. They're cooked. I've never seen, and credit to the Mavs, by the way, the Mavs came out with great energy. Spencer Dinwiddy was just hitting every shot. I do think it's a combo of like the Mavs playing great,

but also the suns forgetting how to like touch a basketball. The way that they're playing basketball right now is very strange. It's real strange. It's like Chris Paul, he tries to run a pick and roll, dribbles into a double team, kicks it out like directly backwards to Jay Crowder and hopes that Jay Crowder just fills it up.

That's what their game plan is right now. Shocking, it's not working. Luka Donchich is like straight up, like tearing them limb from limb. Crossing over everyone. And he's doing the smug little Luka smirks. I kind of love it. I don't think anybody has a more condescending smirk

besides Hank Lockwood than Luka Donchich does. Like he's boxing out on free throws and like winking at the foul shoot. Yes, yes. It's very disrespectful what he's doing. Our good friend, Sam Schwartz, he actually pointed out that Spencer Dinwiddy has been playing like a fucking maniac since Bitcoin crashed.

And his entire contract got converted into crypto this year. So he's out there. He knows he has to get another big contract. He's really in trouble right now. Yeah, he knows he's gotta try to get one max deal over his career. The Sons are playing like they have Chris Paul and four James Hardens in a game seven.

That's how they're playing right now. But what's the conversion rate of a playoff Chris Paul to a playoff James Harden? Well, I feel like that's like Stanley Nichols to shoot box. Yeah, well, and it's also a Chris Paul that was up 2-0 in a series. And I think this would be now the fifth time. And I know there's injuries in there and everything.

And there's all these different, but I think it would be the fifth time a Chris Paul lead team was up 2-0 in a series and ended up losing that series. I think we need to actually take a step back and rewind through history. Go back to when the Chris Paul to the Lakers trade didn't happen because David Stern nixed it. I think David Stern accurately knew like,

hey, the league's better when the Lakers are winning championships. I'm not gonna let this trade go through just because I know that they'll never win a ring when Chris Paul's on the team. I think it wasn't a matter of making a super team that made him step in and put the kibosh on it. I think he actually saved the NBA.

A triumph for guys like us who just live on narratives and we don't want to give up narratives because they're fun. And look, we know Chris Paul's good, but is he? Yeah. That's the question that should lead all debate shows on Monday. Chris Paul is literally the best NBA player of all time

that has sucked. We actually were debating whether we could call Russell tonight. I don't think we can. I think this is gonna be a fracture in our relationship for a while. I think we gotta wait a couple weeks at least. I think we're gonna have to do,

I think I'm gonna have to have another kid and we're gonna have to have another life episode and like sit down and just be like, here's a tip, don't get too committed to one player who's 37 years old and chokes in the playoffs all the time. I think I might have to go adopt a child to save our relationship with him. I'll name him Chris and I'll get Ryan to help me raise him.

Yeah, Ryan would be like, oh, that's my son's name too. Is Ryan, is he a Celtics fan? Yes. So that's probably, we'll have to wait until after the Celtics get to the finals and just let him talk about how great his Celtics are. Yes, but this is, it's gonna be tough. It'll be touch and go for a while.

We'll try to have him on at some point in the rest of the playoffs, but this will be a, like I'll text him in a few days being like, hey, that'll be it. Like just a hang. You're not gonna text him tonight. No, I already texted him. I texted him in the second quarter.

I was like, hey, chin up, dude. He's just, he's just, he's just getting ready to go off. I was like, long game. But all right, let's talk about the game that is final. The Celtics beat the Bucks. Hank was there on the wood. The Bucks, you know, incredible series, incredible series goes seven.

The Bucks decided to galaxy brain game seven saying, let's just leave Grant Williams open who's a 40% shooter from three. He's not a bad, he's a good shooter from three. They left him open all day. He tied the record for most threes in a game seven with seven. That was, that was wild.

Hank, why don't you tell us, I'll let you just go wherever you want to go with your spaz celebrations. Just go off. I mean, we can, we can get into the spaz celebrations. It was an unbelievable experience, great hospitality shown by the Celtics sitting courtside. Obviously, it was wild, wild sitting there. Grant Williams, but it was one of those things

where they left him wide open and every time it wasn't, they weren't bad shots. It was like, he has to be shooting these. He's missing them, but he just needs to keep shooting them because he's wide open. They're not guarding them. Yeah. So he attempted 18 threes in this game.

But none of them were bad shots. No, they were like relatively wide open. There's only one player that's ever attempted more threes in a playoff game. Any guesses? James Harden. Russell Westbrook. Russell Westbrook on a night that he put up 43 total shots

and they still lost. That was the record. It still stands, but only by one. I think he had 19 attempts. It was a clinic. It was the Grant Williams game. You have to ask yourself, did Hank's presence at courtside, like when LeBron plays so well because Drake's there

watching him, was Grant like, you know what? I'm team Hank. I got to put it on a show from a boy. Yeah, I was in these guys' ears. Marcus Smart came over afterwards. We were sitting next to his agent, came over, took a picture, great guy. I got a question about that.

I got a question about that. There's a picture you can find it online. Hank and Dave and Marcus Smart posted it. Yeah, Marcus Smart posted it. Dave did point out on the Twitter that he said that you should take your shirts off. What happened there? Because I'll tell you one thing.

That picture would be 10 billion times funnier if you both had your shirts off as well. Oh, easily. I would have, and I could have shown the six pack. He said that after the fact. That was like a post mostly comment. That wasn't, like he said it. I was like, yeah, we should have.

That would have been hilarious, but it wasn't. OK. It was kind of a spur of the moment thing. The celebrations, obviously, when you're in the wood, like you guys know how it is. We do streams. People see you celebrating. Yeah, when you're in the wood.

That was just as raw emotion as you could possibly have. Like he wasn't thought about. I wasn't like, I'm going to pump my fist. It was just like excitement leaving my body simultaneously through both of my hands. I have no problem with it, though. I think it was beautiful to watch. I know that you're self-conscious about it,

but I don't think that you should be. I'm not. No, you're definitely not. You're absolutely, you're so triggered by it. You're fine. You tweeted it after. Can I tell you, actually? You tweeted it at me.

Well, yeah, because it was shocking. I mean, what? Dude, remember when PFT? You described it, like I described it for the listeners. You tried to do, and you can find it. We'll put it in the YouTube. Hank tried to do a double fist pump and kind of like a double flail kick.

Someone actually nailed it. You look like one of Balmers cronies when they were doing the get on your feet dance. And that's doing like Windows 97 was getting introduced. That's the old Donald Trump. Yeah. On the Mexican soccer coach, yeah. But it was like you lost all control of your body.

And can I tell you? I did. Can I tell you that this is going to hurt you because the call came from within the house. When I keyed in on you celebrating, I got tipped off to it by a close associate sometime in the second quarter. Who, memes?

Nope. Stanford Steve texted me. He was like, we got to work on Hank's fist pumps. And I was like, what? And then I started watching. I was like, what is he doing? He's trying to pull off a double fist pump. That's never been done before.

Hank, I know you're thinking to yourself, probably, man, I looked like such a nerd. I'm so embarrassed. What a bad visual for me. No. I wish a grown man had ever seen this. But Hank, I don't have a problem. I think that you're in the arena, man in the wood arena.

You're supposed to look like an absolute freak when you're sitting courtside. I would be concerned if you didn't celebrate like a complete and total dork. Like that tells me that you're a real fan. Yeah, and also, it was a perfectly normal celebration. Hank, it kind of works, too, because they had like, if you were someone who was watching

and you had no idea what Barstool was, they have team Hank on the Jumbo Tron in the second quarter, then you spazzing out. They're like, this guy's got like two weeks to live. It's great. He's enjoying the hell out of his time. Yeah, listen, I just, I think I said it on the show the other day, I'm in denial about that part of it,

because I was thinking about it. I'm like, it's just ridiculous that people are just like being like team Hank for no fucking reason. They're asking like, why are they saying this? I'm like, I don't really know how to explain it, and I'm just not going to. Right. I'm just going to block that part out of it

and just focus on the good parts. Focus on, listen, yeah, you make fun of my celebration, which was perfectly normal, but if that's the price I have to pay for victory in game seven on the wood, I'll do it all day. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is in reality, like you've been on a very hot streak recently. So us sitting on our couch making fun of your celebration,

I think we deserve this. We got to take, otherwise, we wouldn't be at least a little bit, but that's always not a race, dude. You jumped out of the screen. You were, I thought you were going to collapse. Hank, sing like nobody's listening. Live like it's heaven on earth. You can't even clap.

Love like you've never won before. Dance like no one's watching. I actually said that when I came in, I was like, you literally can't even clap. I've been working on my claps. My claps are totally fine now, but it took some bad film for me to improve on it. It was a good thing.

In fact, I think, I thank God every morning that I wake up that that bad visual me clapping like, I don't know, like my hands were in butterfly wings. I'm glad that came out there because I got to improve on it. I got to watch my own film. You should look at this as a learning. What would Tom Brady say? Stop, yeah.

You probably say like, I learn more from my mistakes than I do from my accomplishments. So you've got a lot to learn today. Yeah, no more double fist pumps. And again, Hank, you're on a hot streak. You just got to sit on the wood to watch your team win a game seven where they were like, that had to been one of the best sporting events

you've been to because it was, it was never in doubt. It basically the game, I don't want to say it turned, but when, when Marcus Smart stole the ball from Giannis with like a second left in the second quarter and then they called the shooting three from half court. It was like, from that moment on, it was the Celtics romp. Celtics played like absolute dirt in the first quarter and the fact that they made it out of the first half

up by five, that like that's a hundred percent true. Where it's like, they played really, really bad in one and a half by five points. Like if they just played decent, they're going to win. And that's what they did. They dominated. I did have a lot of, and Giannis, Giannis was missing. He missed like five laps in the second, in the third quarter. I had a lot of NBA rig violence in that, in the first,

in the first half, it did seem like there were some, there were some very sketchy calls going on. Like they were trying to work against the Celtics. I would agree with somebody that if you're rooting for Boston, you were watching that first half. It seemed a little more than a little fishy, but then at some point in the second half, it almost felt like the refs figured out like,

well, we can't keep this one close. There's just, it's just not able to happen. And it was, it was essentially the box needed just anyone to step up for them. And they just didn't have anyone who stepped up. Like it was, you know, what's so weird is I was, I was looking at it, Giannis, I don't think anyone would argue at this point.

Giannis is the best player in the world. Like he, the series he put on was incredible. He had like a triple double in the first quarter. He had 200. Basically. In seven games, he had 237 points, 103 rebounds and 50 assists. Like that's just stupid. So I don't think anyone would argue that it wasn't like, they, they acquitted themselves as,

as well as a defending champ could do. And I'm not even going to get in the Chris Middleton injury because you can't talk about like, what are you going to do? Like he's injured. What, like, what are you going to say? It's just crazy to think of like how much he did and how much he just needed one guy, one or two guys, which actually brings me to a point, Hank,

is the brotherhood dead because Grayson Allen was so bad. He had such big, like, I shouldn't be here energy. And he airballed the three in the second quarter and you were up his ass. I was watching you were up his ass. So is the brotherhood dead? Is the Duke brotherhood dead? I mean, brotherhood, brotherhood's forever,

but it's like, you know, when you, when you changed, it's only when you're wearing the jersey. Let's be honest, only when you're wearing the jersey. If you're wearing the jersey, it's brotherhood, but if you're wearing the opposing team's jersey and I'm on the wood and you airball it, I'm gonna let you hear. Did you find him after the game

to try to do a handshake line with him? No, no. You were giving him the business. They walked right off. I mean, I don't, yeah, I guess I like, people were telling me a lot of videos. I was vocal. It was one of those things that's like, you know,

when you're on the wood, you're involved in the game. You're basically like the sixth man. Can we talk real quick, other pieces, important pieces of the game, piss break in the first quarter, what happened there? I got pretty, pretty drunk last night, woke up today, had a couple of drinks in the morning. So I was definitely like, my bladder was,

was I needed to go. Yeah. I wasn't, I wasn't, it took me a little while to get into, you know, game mode. I had to really play, play my way into it. It was a glaring, glaring absence on the sideline though. Like it stuck out like a sore thumb. And that's actually.

It was, it was one of those things where I was, you know, listen, I was, I was, I sat down in the seats and I, in my head, similar to the jail shit story that people always chair me before. I was like, I have to pee, but I'm gonna wait till the end of the first half. But I was so uncomfortable that I was like, it's going to be awkward.

I'm probably going to get sure for it, but I'm going to be 10 times more comfortable once I'm finished. It had to be done. By the way, quick update. The Mavericks are now up 41 points. Holy shit. 41 points.

I think we made the right. Holy shit. Suns is a disgrace. Can they, can they actually throw in the white towel? Can, can the suns actually just quit? I'm telling you, you guys are going to balk me for it, but they needed AJ Titties at halftime. Yes, we are going to balk you.

Hold on. She did, she did. Yeah, both things can be true. I'm, I'm, I'm not afraid of being bonk for telling the truth and call me horny if you must, but they needed to get sucked off. Yeah. This is, this is horrific.

I don't know what you would see. Let's just get a quick update on the Chris Paul stat line. I think he's still got one point. He's got three points or three points. All right. Three points to assist one rebound stat stuffer. He's got to be doing a bit. Right.

I feel like I think Yannis had that stat line 45 seconds into the game. It's, it's ridiculous what Chris Paul is doing right now. You've got, you've got, uh, Merkew and Sal backstage, like whispering into earphones, be like, okay, now, now throw the ball, throw the ball off Chevelle McGee's knee out of bounds. It also, I mean, Bob Ryan hates this NBA, but it does prove

that like you, DeAndre Aten has also been bad. And DeAndre Aten is you, you have, you have to have five guys that can play at the three point line in a series. You know what I mean? Like it's just, you can't, you can't play with the center. I'm offended. I'm offended. And going into this game, I texted the group chat this

trying to get what the vibes were. I was betting on the suns and I said, I'm also betting the over on Chris Paul points at 17 and a half. And I was doing it mostly so that I would be, I would be saving myself either way. So one, if he did get the over, boom, my bed hits. I'm happy about that. If he gets the under, then it really fuels, it gets me more

amped up about my anti-Chris Paul stance. Right. And so it did the trick. I'm, I'm, I'm literally angry at Chris Paul right now. It is, it's nuts. This is a shocking, shocking game. Game seven at home and you're down 39 now. They just cut the lead.

They're on a two-oh run. You never hear somebody say like they laid an egg in basketball. That's more of a football term. Chris Paul is, is laying an egg right now. This is, I, do you blow up, blow up the suns? I got, you got to. I don't know what, like this is a loss that will haunt you. I went, yeah.

I wonder what, what Brian Cox would say about whether or not you could actually do that. Yeah. Well, can I do a quick Monday reading? Yeah. Uh, Billy football just tweeted this 16 seconds ago. He said suns question mark, more like moons because they're playing ass out, terrible.

It's good, Billy. I like that. That was it. It's going to do numbies. Is the opposite of the sun, the moon though? I don't think so. 100%. No, but yeah, for us, the moon is out.

Yeah, I like it. In the moony. In terms of the universe. What is the opposite of the sun of black hole? Yeah. Black hole sun. This is a singularity. Yeah.

Hank, we need, now need to turn, turn our attention. By the way, one last thing about Grant Williams. I'll tell you what, they're not playing like Jupiter or shit. I fucked that up. Yeah. Rewind. Tell you what, you're a big cat. They're not playing like Saturn because they got no rings.

Nice. Just pretend I didn't fuck that up rings. Huh? Jupiter has moons. I think Jupiter has maybe a small ring, a technical ring, like a bubble ring. Like, yeah, they've got the Mickey Mouse, right, right, right. Drop some Jupiter. Great song.

Um, tell me. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. We should have a guy. By the way, I have a, I have a Mount Rushmore idea that popped in my head. Now we're getting just sideways. I have, I wrote down a couple too, but. Well, no, I have an idea for how we should do Mount Rushmore this year. Oh boy.

Yeah. I think we should go, I think we should go Teams, because Billy and Jake are sitting next to each other. We're going to have the producer team and me and PFT team up and we go. I love that. So that way there's three pick, three, three teams pick each time. But it's teams. I like that.

I think it would be, I think it'd be a nice variation for it. And we should, we should give ourselves names and jerseys and jerseys and self shirts. I just, I just like, you know, I'm just going to throw it out there. Like you guys are all the old heads to the two most valuable people. Like what happens when you guys just getting like, I don't know, Hank, we haven't been on a jumbo track recently. Are we a super team?

Are you guys, no, we're, I'm worried about the podcast for Mount Rushmore. No, you guys being bad. I think you guys are going to be so bad that you're going to like, oh, there's going to be like, dissension between you. Oh, I don't think we're going to be bad. I think we're actually going to find out very quickly that we are just dominant left and right. I mean, we've seen Jake and Billy together.

That team doesn't work whatsoever. I team Hubbell was a wagon. Team Hubbell was around. They won the pizza draft. Easy. Don't never forget the pizza draft. Um, that was actually, you know, that was the birth of the team. Hank movement was, was the pizza draft.

Double. I was never forget. It goes down in its worst place. Then, uh, all right, let's, let's move on from those days to the more important pressing topic now. And we're going to talk NHL after the bussing with the boys. So we're going to do all hockey talk then. Uh, Hank, you now have to face your greatest foe of your life.

It's the only person who can just beat you left and right up and down. And there's nothing you can do about your kryptonite. It's Jake Marsh. So what, what, what, what are your thoughts going into this? Uh, Eastern conference final now with Jake Marsh looking at you across the way and just smiling and being like, I hope we just have a good time. Yeah. I mean, this is bubble revenge.

My thoughts, honestly, and this is going to make it worse. It's going to be a colder take if they end up losing, but I do think the Celtics are a better team. Like I think this should be a five or six game series win. And I just, you know, he culture all that shit, but that was, you know, even the bubble, like this Celtic team is a much different team than they were in the bubble. They're way better. The heater basically the same, if not worse.

Yes. So I feel, oh, nice. I feel, I feel, I feel extremely confident about this game. So about the series. Yeah. I, I, I would not feel confident ever going up against Jake Marsh because he's a winner. He'll smile.

He'll laugh. He'll apologize for beating you as he slips your throat. It's just, it's so much worse losing to Jake at anything. And I would be very, very afraid if I were you. I would definitely not be making declarations. It sounds like you're declaring a possible whomping. You said five or six games. That's a potential whomping.

That is a potential whomping. I also would just like to say, you know, it's just such a shame, such a shame that it's not the Sixers. Like if they were as good as they claim to be all year, everyone was talking all that shit and they were in the Eastern Conference Finals. And this was Boston or Philadelphia for a chance to go to the finals. It'd be unbelievable. By the way, not to, to just rip the wound, the fresh gaping wound that the Sixers

have, but, um, the one little fun fact that comes out of, uh, Emaid Udoka going to the Eastern Conference Final. This is now three assistant coaches the Sixers had. They're the new Washington Redskins, three, sorry, commanders. They had three assistant coaches in the last seven years that have gone to a conference final. So obviously Mike D'Antoni, he's, he, yeah, he was on the staff in 2015, 2016. He went to the Western Conference Final with the Rockets, uh, Monty Williams,

coach of the sons who now is laying an egg was on the staff. He, he went to the Western Conference Finals, went to the finals and Emaid Udoka now is going to the Eastern Conference Finals. So as they wrestle with Brent Brown and, and Doc Rivers, they had three guys who, at least two of the three guys, cause you could throw out the Mike D'Antoni. Cause I think he was there just for like almost a sabbatical year. The other two guys are better coaches than they've had, uh, in their former coach in their current coach.

Emaid is also the only African American head coach of the Celtics to ever advance to a conference finals. Big day for Jay Williams. Huge day. Huge for Jay Williams. Uh, did you see that stat by the way, Hank, that the Celtics have now been to the, uh, half of the Eastern Conference Finals? That's crazy.

That's disgusting. Yeah. That's crazy. Do you ever, Hank, do you ever just wake up? Better than the Patriots. You ever just wake up in the morning and thank God that you're a Boston sports fan? Yeah. I mean, being home is like the greatest thing in the world.

I love being in Boston. It's a beautiful day. The city is alive and it's just like, I wish, I just love it here. Team Hank, you must have been like mother Teresa in a former life to get born in Paris. Yeah. And then it, could you imagine that guy who has all that getting that triggered over a double fist pump?

I'm not. No, I think that was the worst part. Big guy is like, people say act like you've been there before. Remember when I sprayed champagne during the Capitol Stanley Cup run after they won one game in the finals and they're like, act like you've been there. I'd literally never been there before. Yeah, right. Hank, you just said out loud, you've been to half the Eastern Conference finals.

You above all anyone else should know to act like you've been there before. Yeah, I think that was, that's, that's what someone that's been there before does is a perfectly normal reaction. And now you get your double kryptonite because the heat, I think are two and O against the Celtics in the Eastern Conference final. And you have Jake Marsh, who's like a billion and O against Henry Lockwood. Yeah. I mean, I'm excited.

I'm ready. I think it's, I think they said they still won in Miami than they won the series. We'll talk a little bit more about the road trip that Jake and I went on down to DC, but this is directly relevant to you here, Hank. Jake at one point looked at me and he was like, you know, like now that you're in sports, does it like the wins mean like a little bit less to you when your team does well as he's beating me in the hockey game.

So like, he knows, he knows that I, I think you said something along those lines where you were like, it's, it's not as meaningful. Now that you're in sports, in the sports media world. Oh, about myself. Yes. Oh, yes. I thought you said, I was saying that about you. No, no, no, no, no, yeah.

Yeah. So you're doing it again right now. Yeah. You saw, I was just confused. I was confused. No, I said, like, on what I want to do in my long term career, like you have to become more neutral. Like obviously I'm always going to rep my teams, but living and dying and you

could care less that you just destroy PFCs and will to live. Exactly. No, that's, that's the message loud and clear. Yeah. Yep. The biggest alpha in the office. Yep. That's a fact.

That's a fact. Okay. Anything else? I mean, the sun's, the sun's game is officially, I mean, it's been over, but it says, it's, it's as dead as a team. I, we'd have to look back in history, like what team has laid this type of egg in game seven. I at home, it's, it's shocking.

It's absolutely shocking. Chris Paul, still three points. Biggest egg possible. It's, it's crazy. Yes. Cp three. Do you think he's hurt? Should we say he's hurt?

I think Chris Paul is too healthy. Okay. I think that's probably his body doesn't know how to react right now because it's like, wait, my left wrist should be hurting right now. Yeah. This might be, I might have to watch this press conference afterwards. And it hasn't, I don't, I'm not a big press conference watcher unless it's like LeBron losing in an epic fashion.

Still hasn't done his Q and A. Yeah. He still has those Q and A also just spent all Friday the 13th watching scary movies and there, there's our LeBron bingo board for everyone keeping score at home. Let's do who's back though. And then we'll get to busting with the boys and then we will talk about hockey and recap everything that happened with PFT and Jake going down to DC.

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Go ahead, Team Hank. Uh, yeah, Team Hank is back. He might have not got a who's back. Game seven hockey over times. Yeah. Pittsburgh. Congratulations. Congratulations.

I'm calling it right now for the, for the, for the penguins. Wow. How dare you? That's, that's your who's back. Well, it's not an overtime yet. Game's still going. This is, this is some good new podcasting. La Crosse is back.

Oh, there it is. La Crosse is back. Sport of the future. La Crosse is back. Can the sport of the future be back? Yeah. I mean, it's that time of year. It's like whenever the season's starting, the PLL starting soon, the college

teams and the championship. Didn't we pick up some guy in the draft? Yeah. The water dogs actually had a really good draft. What's your, what's our grade? I give us an A plus. Okay, cool. What about the whip snakes?

Whip snakes, I mean, as one of the reigning champions in the first inaugural years of the league, they didn't have that good of picks, but I think the red wolves are still, the redwoods are still the team to beat. Just give me a grade, Billy. I just need a draft grade. Give them a B minus for the whip snakes. Okay. Anyone get an F?

Atlas. Chrome. Chrome. Yeah. I do your best, Chrome. Can we put out a, can we put out a list of our draft grade names? Yes. All right, thank you.

Just give everybody else a C. Yeah. Good job, Hank, with your who's back. Laplace is back. Thank you. PFT, your who's back. My who's back of the week is Danny Woodhead. Yes.

My guy, Danny Woodhead, our guy, Danny Woodhead, one of the OG part of my take recurring guests, maybe the best athlete that we've ever had on this show. He is very close to qualifying for the US Open and golf. Very close. Yes. He came in, I think, second or third place in the second final qualifying tournament last weekend. So if you finish this, I think it's like top five at the next tournament that

he's in, he's in the US Open. Danny Woodhead is going to be playing the US Open. It's crazy. I have full confidence in Danny. And like I sent him a congratulatory note afterwards. I was like, Hey, man, this is super impressive. And he told me like, this is honestly the best athletic thing that I've ever done my life.

It's he's better than Tony Romo golf. Right. And it's, it is kind of crazy to think about how many people play golf. I mean, obviously making the NFL is, is insane. But he's an exceptional athlete. And then to transition and be this good at golf, it's fucking nuts, man. Yeah. You see the, I think it was a birdie putt on 17 that he had, had an all time

walk off celebration on it, walked it in like Tiger Woods. Yeah, did a little ass slap. Yeah, Danny is, Danny is a legit golfer. And I, I sometimes do this, but I tweeted without thinking. And I said that if he makes the cut at the US Open, I will cut every hair off my body because the original bet was I was going to wait, I was going to wait to cut my hair, my long hair until Danny Wood had won a Super Bowl. Your Patriots couldn't get done for him, Hank.

So unfortunately that never happened. But if he makes a cut, every hair except for my eyebrows is coming off the eyebrows. Eyebrows stay on soft. Why is that soft, Billy? Real men take their eyebrows off. My eyebrows are facts. That's true. You actually, if you are going to do every hair, you got to do every hair.

That's the best part of my body. Yeah, no, it is. You know, I love my eyebrows. I, everyone knows I've got great eyebrows. Just draw them on, draw them on for a little. No, eyebrows stay eyelashes come off. I'll take the eyelat. I'll cut the eyelashes, but not the eyebrows.

That will be freaky. Do those go back? Um, suns are down 42 going into it. It's major week, by the way, for golf. Oh, yeah, yes, yes, yeah. You know, I saw some of the beer prices that they have. Oh, yeah, people are freaking out about it. It's going to be tough.

It's going to be a lot of angry Oklahomans out there. Yeah, it's like $18 for a beer. Coors Light would never do that to you. Bring in a, bring in a fucking flask. Sneak a flask. Yeah, it's not that hard. Um, OK, my who's back the week is the Cincinnati Reds for the sixth time in MLB history.

They had a no hitter and they lost, um, not to be the fact check. Oh, I know that they didn't technically pitch the ninth. Yeah, so it's still they allow crazy. It's funny watching all the big J's out there carefully phrasing it. They allowed no hits, right? And they lost because they didn't pitch the bottom of the ninth because they lost, but all time, like the red, as if the red season couldn't get worse, you have this happen

where in the eighth inning, they had three consecutive walks and then a fielder's choice, a double play that they weren't able to, to if they had gotten the double play, it would have stayed scoreless. But they weren't able to complete the double play. So they lost one to nothing and gave up no hits. It's so perfect that it happened to the pirates. So I know like the unstoppable force meets the immovable object. Yes, that's the only team that this could possibly happen.

Yes. And my other who's back is my voice. I got my voice back. I slept and I got my voice back. So thanks to everyone who is like, I want to kill myself. I want my voice back. I want my voice to be back so bad that I actually made a doctor's appointment. How do you like that? I hope I fucking have cancer.

So everyone who who says shit to me, that you shove it back in their face. You don't mean that. No, but it would dunk on all of some wood. I'd pull up all the people being like, I can't stand your voice. And I'd be like, fuck you, dude. Knock on that wood. I got a real problem. No, but I'm back. Billy's doing a great job pretending that he hopes that you don't have cancer. Yes. Thank you, Billy. Billy's like, all right.

So that's seed. I'll probably lower it a little because he sits too high right next to the beer fridge, which is sick, like low key. That's the seat that I'm going to see a doctor and see what I can do to not lose my voice all the time. So but I am back right now. I felt good, slept, felt good, felt feels good to have my voice back. Thank you for everyone who's actually concerned.

Not people who just bitching. I was never concerned. All right. I appreciate that. But yeah, no, there were some people that got me triggered because it's like you don't think I care. You think I'm just it would be one thing if I was like partying and like smoking cigs and partying all the time and have no voice. That would be a lot cooler reason.

I just lost my voice because I don't sleep and we work a million hours. Oh, these sons fans are so sad. Get ready to get tagged. PFT as cool as they were when we watched them in the finals. They are very sad. The funniest guy in that in that building right now is the dude that's dressed in the neon orange suit that also put bronzer all over his body. He's just he went to the game as a son.

Yeah, like dressed up as a son. He looks bad right now. I this is one of those moments where we're watching live as they go through sad sons fans that ladies asleep. I would absolutely leave. I don't think there's any shame in leaving because guess what? If you team on the court quits, you can quit too. At least you still have Kyler Murray.

Yeah, and then you have September and October. Yeah, at least. Hey, at least you have. Deandre Hopkins is coming back for you guys this year. There we go. That'll be nice. That would be really nice. Yeah. Big free agent pick up. Billy, my who's back is trash pandas at the Arkansas

versus Vanderbilt College baseball game. There was a raccoon running through the stands and one brave gentleman by the name of Grant Harman just grabbed the raccoon and just held it up for the whole crowd to see. It was a pretty awesome moment. Grant is such an obvious name for somebody that would be the person to handle the raccoon. Yeah, it's like it's going to be a grant or it's going to be a sack.

It was reported he had no prior experience grabbing raccoons and he was bitten several times by the raccoon. Oh, Jesus. And immediately after the game, had to go to the ER to get his first round of rabies shots, which I bring to the question, why do dogs and other animals have vaccines that are one shot for rabies? When humans might get in contact with rabies, they have to take like six rounds of shots and then you got to get another booster.

Yeah, booster after that, because it's conspiracy. Probably all Pfizer. But dogs get dogs get rabies vaccines. Like they get them over and over. They get them every year. So why don't we do that? I think we have one that's just I don't know if rabies is. But if a dog got bit by a raccoon, it also would have to go to the hospital.

Billy, if you if you told everybody in America, they had to get a yearly rabies shot. Yeah. How many people do you think would follow through with that? A lot. You think so? No. I preach your pest control guys have to get rabies shot. Stephen Colbert would have a big commercial about rabies vaccine. You know, we're not me, bro. No, bro.

Do you put the jab in there? Now, in our is measles, mumps, rubella. I thought there was something. Oh, no, it's tennis. Yeah, tennis. So remember that one time I woke up with a bat in my barn. Yeah. Oh, it was like, no, I played. I played. I played roulette.

It was like, I'm either going to die of rabies in six months or have to go to the hospital to get these shots every three months. Yeah. But dogs get rabies vaccines every year. You do get your dog. I think it's every year. You do do that. Yeah. But why can't they do that for humans? I think it's every other year. You get the new tag for your dog.

Yeah. We should actually, Billy, you should if anybody on earth should get like a prophylactic rabies shot, a preventative one, just in case it should be you. Do you think anyone's selling fake dog vaccines for rabies? That'd be pretty fun. Yeah, probably. Yes, someone's like, I don't I don't believe in vaccinations for my dog. So I'm like, there's a black market of you can get a fake tag.

For sure. Yeah. Also, what's the opposite of like a bad beat? It's a backdoor cover or a lucky win. Yeah. Well, that's what's back. If you guys watch UFC on Saturday, Black Black, a Vic had an absolute backdoor cover when he was like the money dog by a long shot and his opponent, Raykicks. Like he's I bet on him.

I was like, this dude, Yon is going to win first round. He guys asked beat was bleeding everywhere. Second round, Raykicks just like blew out his knee and it was like. Oh, that's crazy. Come back when that actually the like who there was some famous guy. Maybe it was Jose Aldo who broke his leg. Go rangers. Go rangers in your face. No, that's a replay. That's a replay.

That's a replay. No. Oh, my God, my God. Not in your face. That's a replay. You think about Anderson still on your back. Maybe yes, who broke his leg. And it was just, well, that fucking sucks if you bet on him. Also, did you realize that every bad beat the other side is a lucky one? Yes. OK. Yeah, yeah.

That is true. It's always bad. Yeah. It feels good, right? For the other guy. Yeah. Very bad beat. I don't feel that bad because it was MCL, LCL. Those are like a couple of weeks. What would you have felt bad? ACL, it feels like a bad ACL.

You would have donated your money. No, no, I wouldn't have even mentioned it. But like you can deal. MCL, LCL just. It's not that. Just walk it off. Yeah, Billy, winning money because the guy like blew out his knee and he's like, I can't take this one. I guess this is blood money.

I can't have this. Also, my last who's back is Ben Mintz. Ben Mintz is back. Literally in the city of New York. He's back. I can't wait to go home. How long? I don't know. But the tour is over. I can't wait to go home.

I can't wait to go back. I think I'm going to give him a tapeworm. I think that's how we're going to get him. Yeah, we have the dozen. Everyone tune into the Dozen Trivia. I think it starts next week. Yeah, we're taping the episodes this week throughout the office. But Jeff D. Low, who most of you probably know,

sent an email to everyone telling him what their schedule was, which he had already done. And when I came in the office tonight, he's like, yeah, that was just an email for Ben Mintz because he texted me saying what time is my game on Monday night? And he's like, your game is literally the first game at 10 a.m. So who's back week, Ben Mintz? Me and Hank playing each other round one.

Here we go. Yeah, it's going to be fun. Talking about rattled, PFT is rattled. How am I rattled? You're trying to figure out who my third teammate is. I don't know who your third teammate is. On a scale of one fist pump to two, how rattled? Well, that's normal. That'd be perfectly normal scale, but he's very rattled.

Two fist pumps. Two fist pumps. Not rattled. Got it. No, two fist pumps. And you don't, and you don't know who it is. OK, Jake, your who's back of the week. My who's back is a potential who's back and it's Drew Brees. Yeah, did that.

He could be returning the football. He could go back to NBC. He could be focusing on business and philanthropy training. This is classic, Jake. Training for pickleball. Just burying golf. You're burying the story. Coaching his kids.

What, that he's out on NBC? Yeah, because he sucked at his job. No, but I don't think anyone expected him to hint it. Usually when someone hints that they're coming back to play, they're probably going to come back to play. Well, I think he's probably embarrassed and he's like, shit, I got to figure out what to do here. He thought that he was going to be Chris Collinsworth next year.

And so they're like, well, we already have Chris Collinsworth. So I don't know what you're going to be doing. Besides exactly what you did last year, which you weren't happy with. So now he's thinking that he might come back to the NFL. I actually I hope that he comes back to the NFL and that he goes to the Dolphins to make up for like the Dolphins organization, your redemption. Sorry that we took Dante Culpepper instead of you.

Let's try to run it back. But I don't know, like if you're a Dolphins receiver to go from a rocket arm of Tua to Drew Brees would be a tough adjustment. Yeah, like Drew Brees, he gets down there. He might hypothetically under throw you by 15 yards and in mini camps and make like if you're Tyreek Hill, make you wait around for seven seconds to catch a pass before you run with it. Dude, Tua got done so dirty with that clip.

How do you do that with OTAs and like there's you get to decide the highlights. Somebody you decided somebody in their media department does not like to a very much. I'm convinced it could be one of those like, oh, that's like that quote about the Bengals receiver, Jamar Chase. Yeah, everyone's like, oh, he's going to stink. I'm convinced. Yeah, it was done on purpose. Two and on. Love it. Love it.

Yeah. Also, I'm going to put a future. If the if the heat beat the Celtics, we as a podcast have to put a future in the Dolphins. Yeah, Jake. Whoa, whoa, Hank. Hank is very confident. Hank wasn't listening there. You just you just said no. I said it and then I cut that. We'll cut that.

The heat beat the Celtics and you said when, but if he beat the Celtics, I think we as a podcast need to put a future on the Dolphins to win the Super Bowl because Jake Jake's destiny will to just beat everyone. But I will say running through us all. Yeah, I am not excited to go against Hank right now. This is perfect. Yeah, let it out. No, he. Yeah, I'm scared of Hank right now. Right. I think we all should be right. Yeah.

Yeah, he almost got me fired because I fucking tweeted that clip of him spazzing out on the wood. I was literally tweeted that clip. Fifteen minutes later, Erica had an email in my inbox being like, what's this clip? Like, you know that you can't bash our C-suite employees. And I was like, fuck. No, I'm just excited for the WLs.

This is this is what they want. Hank, are you afraid of starting? Yes. Yes, you have to be. You put like it's one of those things where and again, like it'll sound worse if they lose. But I am riding hide. I do have some momentum that I don't normally have. Like I'm going to try and ride it.

I have more momentum than usual. So hopefully that train just runs Jake over. OK, let's get to bussing with the boys. Great interview before we do that. PFT, you got a quick word from one of our sponsors. Before we get to the boys here, talking about our good friends over at Cross Country Mortgage. If you've ever tried to purchase a home,

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And now here are the Bussin' with the Boys Boys. Ooh. OK, we now welcome on very special guests, our good, good friends. It is Will Compton, it is Taylor Luan, the boys coming all the way to New York. Look, they're doing a little handshake right now. So they came all the way to New York from Nashville.

We were trying to plan this for a very long time. It was a big deal. Because Will, well, I'll let you take the floor. Will is going to retire from the NFL, and we wanted him to announce it on our show. Oh, my god. So go ahead, Will. Hey, that's fake news.

This has all been planned. That's fake news, dude. Oh, you're playing? Playoff Willie's Alive and Will. So are you? Matter of fact, uh. Wait, you're not? Dude, you said, you're like, I want to come to New York

and do a big deal, and we'll do time to square. That's not what I said. So you're staying in the NFL? Oh, absolutely. Oh, OK. Can I get some advice, Will? If you say that you're retiring, though, it's like a boxer when they say they're going to retire

and stop fighting. It just makes people want them more. Yeah, for sure. But we have a platform that, if that did happen. Wait, but it's all right. Well, we need someone's retirement. So Taylor, are you going to do it? No, god.

Come on. I'm going to retire from the NFL. Yeah. I'm taking my name out. I'll do it. I'll retire from the EFT. You retire right now. Yeah, OK.

I'm retiring from the NFL. OK. Oh, shit. Done. All right. I am too. Big guy. All right.

We're done. Will? Will? Will? Ah, you're Tim, baby. We're done. Are you selfish, fuck? We had a packed Will.

We were all going to retire at the same time. Oh, man. And off into the sunset. It's great to see you guys. Great to have you in the studio. What do you think? I mean, Taylor already made fun of us. He's like, I thought this studio would be bigger.

Yeah, I didn't want to do this. I want to start like this. Yeah. And like, I always said in my head, when you walk in, because we've had some issues recently, and we've kind of come back from a rocky. Yeah. It's a rocky deal.

Yeah. And I told myself when I walked in, hey, be nice, and play nice, and have fun. And here I am right before we start. I go, oh, I thought it'd be bigger. I gave myself a pep talk this morning. I just looked in the mirror, and I was like, you're for the boys.

You're for the boys. Just remember, you're for the boys. And it was. Even though they ripped off literally everything you've ever done with your podcast, you're for the boys. I gave that. No, I said that to myself. And now I'm for the boys.

I understand that you said that to yourself, but I don't understand why you got to lie to yourself in the mirror. That's true. What? Oh, I'm not for the boys? No, not the boys. Why don't you clear that up?

Because I feel like a lot of people out there, they see the slogan for the boys, and they're like, wait, what does that mean? Yeah. Oh, shit. That is super innovative. That is crazy. I've never.

Like, what if? For the boys, what a unique saying. I don't think those three words have ever been put together. Wait, let me do a hypothetical. Hypothetical. Hypothetical. Let's say two days from now. It's Saturday morning.

Is it for the boys? Saturdays are always for the boys. Oh, OK. All right. That's a bar stool thing, yeah. Are you guys also for the girls, or can boys be girls, too? Boys can be girls. Boys can be girls, girls can be boys.

Yeah, girls can be boys. It's 2022. Yeah, we're all girl dads, right? Come on, yeah. So what the fuck? We got to be for the girls. Yeah. Yeah, I love women.

I don't like this. I don't like how this is starting, Will. Dude, I can trust me. This is exactly what Adolf Hitler did. But this is just came in. He just started to come in. And that's what you guys are doing. We don't have a sentence.

Were you a history major? We can't get a sentence in. I was a general studies major. I know a little bit about everything. Remarkably. Girls are coming in pretty strong. And if I don't, if I stop talking for a minute, all of a sudden, you're going to start talking,

then I can no longer gather my thoughts. Hey, we talked about the filibuster. Hey, we talked about the filibuster. There's no way Brady Hoke made you go to class. Brady Hoke absolutely did. And if I didn't have 6 AMs. I want to. Can I ask a real question about Brady Hoke?

Yeah, OK, let's start the show. This real question, real question. Start the show. When things were going bad, did anyone in the locker room like, Brady, maybe throw on a headset? That's a great point. That is a great point. Because it's very similar to a fat reliever.

A fat reliever comes in, and if he shoves, everyone's like, love this guy. The minute he sucks, like Joe Blanton, when he would pitch, and he'd give up runs, everyone'd be like, you fat fuck. Brady Hoke, when he doesn't have the headset on, he's like, leader of men. Everything's going well. When he doesn't, it's like, dude, do you even

know there's a game going on? Yeah, I think you answered the question yourself. But I will say, when he first came in, right after Rich Rod got fired and we went to the sugar bowl, won the sugar bowl, kicked it, boom, it was amazing. And then the next year, when things were kind of going downhill a little bit, it was, like you said, at first it was cute and fun.

And I think that everyone's going to look around going, seems a little fucked up now. Yeah, I do. Seems like he should be probably telling us what to do. I will say, he was a good coach. I mean, he was a good guy. I think it was great to be around him. Well, he backtracked.

Even better person. I'm doing a good guy. You never want to say that about a coach, by the way. You never want to be like, you know what? He was a great coach, but an even better person. That always means that's code for he sucked as a coach. Oh, I didn't say that. That wasn't what I said, right?

He was a good coach, by the way. He was a good guy. He's actually a good guy and a good coach. Yeah, he's doing great at San Diego State. Is he back at San Diego State now? Yeah, he's the head coach at San Diego State. He's had some pretty good years. Boom.

So he's a good coach. And he was interim coach at Tennessee, Go Vols. I got so good for him. Go Vols. He was an Oregon for a little bit. I think he did well. He's doing a lot better than Rich Rodriguez is doing now. And those were my two college coaches.

That's true. You know what I'm saying? That's true. Yeah, I picked the lesser. So what did you think of Rich? How are you guys? I thought Rich was this. Thanks, Will.

I'll be honest with you. I wasn't a huge fan of Rich. Yeah, I think a lot of people are. But now we're getting somewhere. Listen, it was one of those things like I came in. He was a little rough on me my first year and my second. Like I redshirted him in the next year. What does that mean?

It wasn't. What is like a little rough? Because that is a serious question. Well, I think when you're a freshman in college, and especially if you redshirt, like you're really, you have zero value to the team at that point. You're like, you're redshirting. I was 254 pounds coming in.

Picking up a scholarship. Right. Yeah, I'm taking a scholarship away. So it was kind of like we had a weed out the week type of mentality. Mike Barlus was there. He was the strength coach. He had his own TV show for a little bit.

I think it was on Discovery. And it was definitely like a let's see who's going to quit first vibe. So they were pretty hard on us our first year. The next year, things just weren't going well. So I didn't get to see like a good, like I didn't think I ever saw Rich Rodriguez smile when he was at Michigan. He had a great job at West Virginia.

Was doing well at U of A until, you know. Things. Until deals happened. But I just don't think you got a fair shake at Michigan. Because, you know, Michigan, the Big Ten is so caught up in their downhill power offense type deal. Wisconsin knows all about it. And then we bring Rich Rodriguez in after Lloyd Carr.

And Rich Rodriguez is spreading. He's got five guys, you know, out wide. And we're running like no tight end sets. We're in that 10 personnel and running like no huddle. So everyone in Michigan is like, what the fuck are we doing? Right. You better win fast if you're going to do that. Yeah, you got to win fast.

We just didn't have the chance to do that. Like, Denard Robinson was a huge get, but he was young. And Rich was fired before. Like, Denard really came into his own. Yeah. Were you on the team against Appalachian State? No, that was 2008 or 2007. Was that still talked about?

It is with any Appalachian State guy that's on our team, like on the Titans. There was a kid. What was this kid's name? Isn't that crazy? I would be like. That's like there. That's like there.

Like the greatest thing that's ever happened. I know. It's crazy that it always gets brought up. It's wild. And it is one of those things like you don't want to. Like we were playing Toledo my senior year and we almost lost it to Toledo. And it was one of those things like, fuck,

we almost had an app state deal happen. Yeah, yeah. You sort of be a part of it. And you guys are like the example. Like for every team, every. Don't be a Michigan in that situation. I know. But hey, I'm a Michigan right now, though.

Only hope for the Big Ten. I mean, what have you done for us lately? Exactly. Do you guys even have a Big Ten rivalry? We won the Big Ten. Yeah, we got docked against Georgia, but that doesn't mean nothing. Nebraska would have lost by six.

I'm not yet. That's true. We've been way closer. But I'm saying like, guys like Big Cat and I, we needed. Don't do this. I'm saying, OK, schools like Wisconsin and Nebraska needed Michigan to put on a better show in the playoffs. I agree.

You guys were a great representation of the Big Ten. I was fired up. I was like, OK, Michigan, these boys got a shot. If they come out, not flat, they got a shot, dude. But and what happened? It just, I think it like, I think it like embarrassed. I went there. Listen, I'm Ryder Die Big Ten.

We need to get another title soon. And it might be, you're probably going to have to be Ohio State because I'm just being honest. I'm a very, I'm a very honest Big Ten fan. When people are like, remember last year when they did the whole COVID thing and they won the tiebreaker with Indiana and Indiana fans were going crazy.

It's like, dude, we got to be in the playoffs every year to stay relevant. The Pac-12 is no longer relevant. Zero percent. Ohio State, as much as I hate them, they are the best chance every year. They are, yeah, they really are. They are.

This is the best chance I think right. I think this year will be a huge determining factor for Michigan, as far as like being back and forward. Like you did it once and then that might have been a fluke. People are saying, not me, people are saying, if you do it again, would you agree with those people? When I'm finished, I'll exhale. When I, if you can do it again,

if you can fucking do it one more time, then it's like, okay, now we got something. Now we're ripping it up and we have two teams that are relevant, Ohio State and Michigan. Then we need to like, I think the next in line would be a Wisconsin. I think Wisconsin would probably be the next in line of those. They've won the most big 10 games

besides Ohio State in the last decade. Yeah, but there's. That's one of those stats that Big Cat like just carries around with him. I mean, this is waiting to bust out at the first sight. Ohio State is a white guy in the NFL. It's like, hard working, but low ceiling. Yeah.

Not Ohio State, Wisconsin, I feel that way. I was going to say, what? No, no, Ohio State's not like that, my bad. Are you a little bit embarrassed about the run the damn ball t-shirts that got worn last year and then they just got their dicks put in the dirt? Who's did? The offensive line of Michigan, right?

Before that game against Georgia, right? And then we didn't run it very well at all. Not like, yeah. Kind of live and die by that sword. Yeah. I mean, I like the way that Michigan was built last year. I like the physicality of the offensive line. I feel like that's what you have to do if you're Michigan.

You can't be Ohio State, right? You have to be Michigan and play the type of football that has gotten your program to the way it is. I do think that there is something that has to do with culture that gets passed down. I don't think that a team can immediately change, even if you have a great coach like they tried with Rich Rod, a guy that will come in and change entirely what you guys

have always been about. So I like what you did last year. I don't know if that's going to be a type of football that's sustainable moving forward, though, as all the rules continue to get changed to favor the passing game. Yeah, I think you need to keep that same mentality on the offensive line.

They won the Joe Moore award last year, which the best offensive line in the NCAA that did not show when they were playing against Georgia. Had what, 15 guys go and drafted? This is crazy. It was unbelievable. Their defense was an anomaly, right? It was like Alabama every other year.

So I guess not an anomaly, except for Alabama. But I think the only way for that to be sustainable is you just have to get some more speed on the outside. Still be who you are in the run game. But if you have more speed on the outside to run a couple of things, like you can, a quick little throw to the small, fast guy, let him get going, those types of things, you're playing a whole different game.

You're Darren Sproul's place. All right, so moving off football for a second. How are we feeling overall with the podcast? It feels like you guys are crushing it right now. It does feel that way, doesn't it? Yeah, it does feel that way. It does. I feel like we've kind of made it.

Your YouTube numbers are pretty crazy, right? Well, I mean, it depends on what crazy is. You know what I mean? I mean, if we're compared to Joe Rogan, we're definitely not doing anything. Well, if everyone's compared to Joe Rogan, we're all. Yeah, we're not doing shit. I think you guys.

No. No. I mean, Joe Rogan's in a different strategy. Billy's using us as a stepping stone to eventually get hired by Joe Rogan. That dude's in a different fucking stratosphere. Do you think that's possible? Do you think this is an idea?

Absolutely not. Long game, son. What would you guys say, though, is the big thing that has felt like, I mean, maybe I'm way off, but it does feel like maybe the last, I don't know, six months or so, it feels like it's hit a spot where it's very consistently good every time. And you guys have felt a groove.

Again, you can tell me that's way wrong, but it does feel that way. Is there anything that you can point to? Man, I don't know. That's a good question. I do feel like we've been hitting a good stride. Sometimes guests move the needle for you for sure. And then when those audiences of other guests watch us,

you retain a little bit of them. And then they kind of ride with you the rest of time. But I do feel like we've been hitting a good stride. It's tough. I feel like we've got a great lineup of guests. PFT, you've got to come on. Big head, you actually got to come to Nashville. You tried to kill me in that fucking bus.

When I went on that bus, Taylor, it was no joke. It was the most perfect day in Knoxville, Tennessee, like the most perfect fall day. It was probably 59 degrees, not a cloud in the sky, that crisp, beautiful air. You know what I mean? Yeah, sounds beautiful. I went in the bus.

Bus was like 140 degrees. Yeah. And I was sweating so much. Check out them heat proteins. Dude, I have never had a podcast where I was like, I'm actually having a great time. But if I don't drink something right now, I will pass out. Brandon almost did.

Yeah, he did. He's just complaining the whole time. Can you imagine the numbers that episode would do if you killed Big Cat on the bus? Like, on the bus. Watching him die during a podcast. Still, yeah, still released. Like, that's how you guys got to think.

You guys, Big Cat would want us to release this episode. Yeah, I died right here. My dad right here right now, I'd hope you guys would release it. Yeah, so you guys are trapped in the old school thinking of mentalities. You got to get a little bit more cutthroat, understand that actually hurting your guests sometimes is good for numbers in the outcome.

Hurting our guests physically? Yeah, and mentally too. Mentally too. More so than mentally. What we're doing to you right now, because you're thinking in your head, did I tell him I was going to retire? You haven't really, like, perked back up since the beginning.

That is true. What are you talking about? We all retired. Yeah, if you guys want to show that I'm retired, I'll fucking retire. We've literally retired for the board. If you guys need me to retire, like, I'll fucking retire. No, we don't want it. It's too late now.

All right, good. Maybe I'll try to play. Go ahead, retire. I also think what you guys have discovered. Dude, fuck football, man. I'll retire right now. Fuck this shit, dude. I'm fucking done with this game, dude.

All right, I'm back. I ran into these guys at the coffee shop next door before we came into work, and I was telling them that they actually found their way into a hack of a secret way to just get engagement and numbers, no matter what, in the podcast and content game. And that is to have a strong opinion about a fast food burger level.

Yes, yes, absolutely. So playoff Willy over here hates In-N-Out. I actually think that Hank is skipping this interview because he's so triggered by your opinion on In-N-Out. He will make us, I think he's made us drive an hour out of our way to get In-N-Out. We usually have to get it right after we get off the airplane in Los Angeles, right before we get to the airport

when we're leaving Los Angeles. He is obsessed with In-N-Out. You hate In-N-Out. And now everyone's either mad at you or loves you. Yeah, I mean, I think when you had to travel an hour to go get In-N-Out, Billy, were you part of this? Big Cat, were you part of it? Probably, yeah.

I mean, was In-N-Out everything that he sits there and talks about? No, In-N-Out to me is the burger's very, very good. The fries are lacking. And I think it's one of those things that if we lived out on the West Coast, I'd do it every now and then, but I wouldn't be like, this is incredible. It's the novelty of it.

Right. Of us going out there and being like, In-N-Out, we don't get it often. I agree. It's the experience factor. There's a not there. You said a great word, novelty. There's like this novelty factor of going out,

seeing the long lines of In-N-Out, the experience. People were taking shots at me because I compared it to Chick-fil-A. I'm not saying Chick-fil-A is an overrated chicken sandwich. I'll say that. Yeah, and I know you don't. I mean, Popeyes just showed up with a chicken sandwich and dominated Chick-fil-A.

Hang on, hang on, did they dominate them? They dominated them for a moment in time. It's so much better, though. No, I disagree. I think Chick-fil-A is doing pretty well. There are two different types of chicken sandwiches. One is much bigger. It's got a lot of extra breading on it.

And it's got a different type of bun. You can enjoy both. I think they're both great sandwiches. I agree with you. So Popeyes came in and they dropped a fucking bomb on the chicken game. They did a great job. They put a nuke on the chicken game.

It was like Lynn Taylor and then Popeyes. The two people responsible for killing the most chickens in America this year. And they created a fucking work of art with their sandwich. Chick-fil-A is still good. I'm still going to go to Chick-fil-A like once a week and get theirs. I don't think I have to choose.

And I think that when it comes to the burger debate, here's a controversial opinion. I think all hamburgers are pretty good for the most part. I don't think that there's like a gourmet burger out there in the fast food game. There's not one that I hate. But I think within and out, it's like you pay $4.99 and you get a good cheeseburger.

I think that's what people like to do. Yeah, and I'm one of those people as well. If I got $5 and I see in and out, I would love to go in and out. When we go to AZ or when we go to the West Coast, I'm excited to go in and out because of the novelty experience factor of going in and out with my West Coast boys. But you go in the conversation as best tasting burger. We're not talking about all the bells and whistles

of everything else. And I think that's what in and out does. Just like Chick-fil-A, incredible service. They got workers out there working all the way out into the highway, dude. And you're getting your food. They're bam, bam, bam. It's great service, great experience.

The ingredients, yes, very quality. But again, we're talking about the best tasting burger out there. And to me, in and out is so overhyped. Overhyped. Oh, all right. So Taylor, why don't you? You're sitting there.

I think it's a little bullshit. Here's what Will's become. He's become a guy that is obsessed with cliques. And so he'll say whatever he needs to do to make sure that Except retire. Yeah, except retire. Right. Like what would get the most cliques?

Retire. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. But when December rolls around and so he starts talking about playoff, will he all over again? More cliques. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

I think somebody's bummed I passed him and followed. Here's the deal. Oh, big toe. Actually, I think somebody's bummed I passed him and I I told you today I was proud of you. I literally said to you. But now you're going to send me a click boy. Oh, you are a click boy.

You're going to call me a click boy. You're a click boy right now. Well, I'm going to give you a compliment here. Oh, I guess I'll give my opinion later. No, I'm going to give a compliment. I was going to talk about it and out burger. But no, no. I'm going to talk about it and out burger.

I feel like you guys. Go ahead, dude. It's your show. It's a great fucking job here. It's good fucking doing your show. And I do think like when you say last six months, I think one thing that we've done better at is just, I guess, being more consistent on the internet too.

Yeah. Putting our face out there. Right. Having more stronger opinions. We don't have to go to practice every day. Right. Exactly. I would say that I would agree with that as well.

I think that the last six months we've done a lot better to be more consistent. And I think I didn't just leave somewhere for four months. That's usually what I usually do in the off season. Yeah. To be around. And then also doing the spring tour. Yeah.

Spring tour is a big deal for us. So Taylor, give us your burger take. It's just that the time has passed. No, no. Go ahead. Hang on. Hang on. A lot of bullshit.

Will's all about clicks. Continue. Burgers. Okay. There's no denying. Oh, dude. I fucking knew it. I fucking took the trap.

Damn it, dude. You know when someone does something and you, and you immediately hit like a sweat, like your body, like I mean, that when you went like that, when you went, I fucking drenched, dude. I'm curious. When you did that,

the fucking heat turned on immediately and went to 110 on me. I'm actually soaking wet now. You're soaking wet now, dude. I actually want to dance. He wants to know. I actually want to know. I'm like, hey, I want to know. Like I'm not laughing because I wanted to hear.

Let me cool down, dude. Thank God I'm wearing this duke cannon, dude. It really cools my pits. Thank God. When you walking in and out. I don't care. How did you not see that one coming? Because I thought,

I thought you were genuine. I thought you were genuine. I thought you were, listen, when we were down there, he said he loved it in Outberger. So when Will said he wanted to actually hear it, I thought, oh, I'm going to have a teammate this game.

Really? Why haven't you said a fucking word yet, dude? It's an outspree trash. Yeah, Billy! It underperforms where it's like places like Carl's Jr. You're like, oh, is this place trash? Coming from a guy that's set up a boxing match, dude.

Yes. I agree, though. That's set up a boxing match. Hey, Billy. I think you were telling me that was real. Don't you think if I set up a boxing match, I'm making it a boxing match? Who raised his shoulder and he went down?

Don't fill his mic, memes. You raised your shoulder. That was just going to be yelling. Taylor, do you think you can beat up Billy? Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's important to have that conversation right now. It's very good, Billy.

You can talk about it. What do you mean it's the most important possible question? I think you should ask Billy that question. That's just a toxic conversation. Billy took three boxing lessons and he probably thinks he can beat me up right now, dude. No, I don't.

Billy, how many 220,000 do you get, though, Billy? No, I don't, bro. Oh, no. That's it? That's cap, cap, cap. You think it's cap? You really think it's cap? Hey, Billy, I haven't said nothing to you.

Just don't let me. I know. Hey, Billy, let me apologize to you. That's right. You and I had a great rapport in the hallway. They did this. I'm still sweating. Thank God I'm wearing a white shirt.

We'll have your podcast broken up by the end of this. God. We're strong. We got to be bad. We're good. So what's your handshake? And at what point do you guys stop being for the boys and start being for the men? Don't do that.

That's what we do on this. We're for the men. What's the show over? Pardon my take. For the men. So you want to know about our handshake? Yeah, boys. You guys have got to witness it.

I'm sure Billy recorded it. He can slow it down. See it a little bit clearer. It's special. I've actually always wondered that. And Will, you might be a better person to ask than Taylor because you've played your career. You've been a Titan, right? So, Will, you've bounced around a little bit.

How long your journeyman, a veteran, how long does it take to learn the new handshakes in every locker room that you go into and create your own with your teammates? Dude, what are we talking like? You got to be an athlete to know handshakes? Well, yes. Like, I know you got handshakes with some of the boys, don't you? You got to have a couple handshakes. Like, how long does it take?

It doesn't take that long. We're hiding under those glasses. I don't think I have any specific handshakes with any of those. Really? I think we do fist pounds sometimes. We do hugs. You know what's underrated handshake? This one.

Don't do our handshake. I'm just going to show you. No. No. The slap and the bump. Oh, the slap. I like that. I like the slap and the bump.

I think that is the most underrated handshake of all time. I don't know. I like the, like, you dab and then you grab them, you hook with the whole thing. Oh, you hook with the finger? You hook with the whole thing. I don't like that as much. You guys know what? I learned a new one recently.

Give this a feel, Billy. Give this a feel. I learned the hand hug. Do you guys know the hand hug? Oh, yeah. This is a nice, yeah. Yeah, I do. It's a little more intimate, though.

Yeah. Like, you and I would both do it like this. You would think in your head, we're going fives. We're going fives, but you have to know that the hug's coming in. Oh, the scissor? Yeah, the scissor. The scissor's nice. It's sensual.

I think, but I think the slap and bump, it's the coolest, in my opinion. You know what I'm saying? It is, because it's got a little extra flair onto it. It does. It does have a little. But I do, the hand hug's nice, but you have to have that rapport with somebody. Yeah, we're going to get back to the boys in a second. But before we do, they're brought to you by our great friends at game time.

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When did you start that? I love it. I think it's like sometimes you'll read some comments and I'll literally say to myself, like, this motherfucker, like, shut the fuck up. And then I thought to myself, like, how can I handle this? Because you know how it is on the internet at times. Yeah.

Like, you'll see comments and you're like, how can I have a little more fun with this? Right. So that's what I did the whole, like, let's take a walk through the panger. Let's get you buckled in. Like, let's put you in the crib. Let's put you in the car seat.

The possibilities are endless, but I have a lot of fun with it. What do you have? Like, telling people to shut the fuck up like there's... God, dude. When somebody says something to a person, you're just like, dude, shut the fuck up. It's like the best feeling, right?

What's the next place? Like, give the viewer something that's coming up that you got like a spot you're thinking... You could bury him. I don't know. You could bury him. You could breastfeed him. Yeah.

You could breastfeed him. You could breastfeed him. Yeah, breastfeed him. Like, let's get this for real, bro. That's what I'm saying. Actually, that's what I'm like, hey, sweetheart, I'm gonna do a bit. Yeah, you're a fucking baby.

Why don't you get on this tip? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good one. Yeah, all right. And then, ready for yours, Taylor? I am. So, everyone thinks... No, everyone thinks there's another thing that you guys do

that I fucking die laughing every time. It's when Will pretends to chug something, but everyone thinks that it's Will being great. Your commentary makes me laugh every fucking time. Well, that brings me down. Every fucking time. Does that bring you joy? We're like, slow down, bro.

Slow down. Like, oh, you're a fucking monster. Like, wow. And Will, if you haven't seen it, Will, like, chugging videos, obviously, people chugging. It's like, oh, fuck, he chugs so fast. Will just sips it super slowly, and Taylor just in the background narrating it,

being like, bro, you are a beast. Oh, my God. I don't think I've ever seen someone put it down as fast as him. I don't think I've had it. I'll tell you what, I've had so many... I've had two emotions since I've been on this podcast and both so dramatic. Yes, that's what we do.

One, just like overwhelmingly anger. Yeah. But then I'm like, I'm full of joy right now. We're gonna get you crying by the end. I just got a hug. I just got a compliment hug, like, instead of a hand hug. Yeah, but I was thinking about, like, what has made you guys pop a little more,

and I think those type of videos where we get to see you guys maybe be funny, not just on a podcast, but other things has been a big part of it, because, like, those videos crack me up every time. You know what I think? I think a lot of that, and I'm gonna throw into you, Will, I think it has to do with Will. Breaking the stigma.

There you go, a little oopy. Because I think when it comes to, like, playing sports, there's, like, an idea of, like, everything you post is to be cool, whether you're getting on a jet, or, like, this is the outfit I'm wearing, or something like that. Right. Will, in a lot of ways.

And there's other guys that try to make jokes, like, kind of broke that a little bit and made it, like, let's try to just be funny. Right. And there's a while there where you're like, I'm just gonna throw shit at the wall and see what hits. And Will, I mean, Will's found a stride. Your boy's still out there trying to find out what my vision is.

Yeah. But Will should be funny as well. It's something because also, like, going in it, like, you know, not that I'm discrediting myself as a player, but when you're actually in it and going in every day, like, there's a sense of you, like, walking around and seeing, like, what you post. Does that happen to you?

Like, what's that? Like, do people, like, see it in the Titans' locker room? They're like, are you about to fucking podcast this, bro? No. I think the boys in the locker room are pretty good. Vrable, he likes to chirp. Right. That's the thing.

It's like going to a team meeting. Vrable, put your ass on a steak in the team meeting room. Vrable be like, let's see what our social media manager's up to this weekend. And I'm just sitting there, like, ass-hole tight, like, fuck. Yeah. And you know, he'll call me, like, when I was on the team the last time, just by the end of the year,

he'll just call me the social media manager. Or he'll even put it by his name. That's so funny. Yeah, Vrable is, uh, he does his 15-minute bits in team meetings. Oh, he loves it, dude. He eats it up. He loves to sit there and tell jokes.

And the thing is, it's like a room that has to laugh. Like, the shit he says is pretty funny, but he also says, shit, you're like, okay, I probably wouldn't give the thing a struggle. Like, I'm trying to make the team, like, that's fucking hilarious. Team coaches have, have, like, these motivational tactics that they do.

They, like, you know, they set up way ahead of time. Sean Payton put, like, juice boxes in your locker and be like, you gotta stay juiced up this week. You know, stuff like that. Yeah. Vrable, it seems like he spends more time, like, like, workshopping his bits, like, writing jokes down before he comes in.

He'll have a few now. He's pretty fucking quick, dude. He has got some quick to him. Some wittiness. But there's no, like, one thing you gotta give Vrable credit for is he doesn't do, like, the cliches, like, you gotta stay juiced up type of eyes. Right.

You know what I'm saying? He kind of stays. No, he'll, his main one is I played 14 years. Listen, boys, I've been in these suits. I know what it's like. That's a pretty good trump card to play. Yeah, it's a tough trump card. Like, what are you gonna say to that?

And, and you can't chirp him for too, like, too long either. Like, if you, if you chirp Vrable, he'll chirp back. Then you chirp him one more time, and then he comes with a fucking haymaker. Right, and he can probably, he can probably beat up, like, 70% of the locker. Like, I, I texted him that.

I texted him the other day and I was like, it's probably not the Cardinals. And I was like, just a massive shot. I was like, holy shit. Like, it's Tuesday. How dark, how dark was that? Oh, bro, that was like. So for people who don't know,

Taylor gave up five sacks. No, don't do that, dude. You know it's not five. He had five. He had five sacks. He had five sacks. I gave up two. But it was a, it was a bloodbath the whole game.

You know that it's like us watch that, and we see that he had five, and that he was matched up against you sometimes. Yeah. And we say to ourselves, damn, Taylor gave up five sacks. That's pretty much, that's pretty much just like Twitter in general, right?

It was that one clip too. Well, the one, there's one, there's another one with Buddha Baker. Oh, that's the one. That's the one. That's the hardest one. So six sacks. That was in a two minute.

No, that wasn't a sack. We got the ball from that one. Thank God. The still tough clip is to have. Hey, the worst part is, when I got hit by Buddha Baker doing that, like at that point, I was like, so,

like you want to see a man just unravel, like watch that game. You'll see me just absolutely unravel emotionally and mentally. When Buddha, I turned my shoulders and he catches me and I fly down and I get up, just completely defeated and Buddha

and Chandler Jones are like walking away, like dapping each other up. And Chandler goes, I told you as they were jogging away. So they were like, dude, this guy, so what was it? You were coming back from injury. Yeah.

Was it not, you know, strong enough, not, you know, you hadn't done enough? I think it was more mental and confidence than anything else. Like, I wasn't, I wasn't as strong. I wasn't as strong or as like, yeah, or as like quick.

I wasn't as confident in my body at that point. And, but I was like, so, like I had to be out there week one, had to be out there week one. And then I got there week one after the first series and I was like, holy fuck, like this is going to be a long day. Right.

And then sure enough, dude, he took advantage of my ass. So if you're working on like the mental side of your game, obviously like in the moment, when you hear something like that, you're having a tough game. It's tough not to like go into a big spiral, right? It's tough not to go into a bad negative place.

Is there something that you, you've like learned from that experience? Where you can, in the moment, try to catch yourself and try to, try to keep yourself from going like completely checked out? That's like, that's the only game in my life I've ever been in a situation where like, it's like, hey, I just want to get the fuck out of here.

Like, that's this in this, in this, in this. Yeah. Well, no, right now I feel fine now. Yeah. The heat's kicked off. We got to cool it.

Yeah, that's right now. I know I'm sitting over here asking Billy for a water. I'm like searching around for water. PFT and I are Budabaker and Chandler Jones, right? Oh my God. I'm Chandler. Hey, the worst part is the other day, I posted something the other day

and people kept tagging Chandler Jones and he commented on my Instagram. I was like, y'all keep posting, like, tagging me in this stuff. It's a new year. And I just commented back and said, hey, don't be the bigger man. Yeah.

It makes it worse. It makes it worse. He laughed. I'm like, God damn. But sure he's a great guy. I'm sure he's a great guy. I'm actually interested to know though, like, is there,

is there something that you can do? Is there like a mental tool that you can use in a game to get yourself to like snap yourself out of a bad mood? Well, there's, there's been other games where I'm like not playing well. It's like, Hey, it just is what it is. You go in the next series and you kind of just play. Like that's never been a huge issue during a game for me.

Like it's been like before a game or after a game type of thing. But this game in particular, it was just where I was at mentally with my knee, where I was at also a little bit physically, where I was just like, I didn't feel like I belonged out there. And like there are points in the air. I was telling Willis on our podcast,

by some of the boys subscribed right from upstairs. I was telling on our podcast that, like at some points last year, I'm like, how am I blocking these people? These guys got to be terrible if I'm blocking them, like even later in the year. And so it was just like, the confidence was just totally shot the whole year

and it started with that week one for sure. So in the film room, do you consider just like, were you praying that you would get COVID after that game? I didn't think about that. So you wouldn't have to go to the facility? But I think I would have done. I would have like gone to a bar and just drank out of every glass

that was just left behind. I would be, come on, give me the cocoa. We did. It was actually a really cool thing that Vrable did after the game. He like texted me as I had come see me in my office. Whenever you get that after your games, you're just like, oh, fuck dude, I must have done something wrong

or I didn't play well or something. And I knew I didn't play well. So I was like, oh, I'm going to get chewed out. And I get into Vrable's office and he's like, hey, I want you to know, like you didn't lose us that game. Like we all played bad. We were going to lose the game regardless. Like don't beat yourself up too much.

Like it's going to take time. And he was like very cool. And it was one of those rare moments where Vrable was like, you know, being like, you know, being nice. Yeah. Well, no, I'm actually curious. No, I'm curious in both of you guys can answer this, but like we as fans, we freak out to everything.

Right. Like a loss like that. We're, we're stupid. We're like Titans are trash. Cardinals is the best team in the world. And eight weeks that Cardinals were. Yeah, right. So how, I mean, I know it's, it's,

it's cliche that said to the media like one week at a time, we don't, we don't get too high, too low. How do you actually do that? It never makes sense to me because like I would get so high and so low that it would, I wouldn't be able to do it. You know what I mean? Dude, I think like, so not playing like being on the couch and watching games and then going in and doing it is like,

it gives you a perspective because before I would get to the Raiders or the Titans, you'd sit there and watch games and you'd almost want to tweet something like emotionally or like just saying something. And then you'd kind of, I would kind of resist. It's like, well, shit, I might be out there soon. So let me not say anything. But I think you just realized like you're in such a bubble

in the season. It's hard to remove yourself. Like when Taylor was talking about social media and stuff earlier, there's just, there's just like a time where it's, it's kind of like not taking yourself so seriously because we're in a profession where all we fucking do is take ourselves so seriously. That's all we do.

It's just, it's alphas. It's people trying to figure this out. Like who's going to be macho? Who's going to be the man? Yeah, constantly posturing. I got to make the team. I can't look dumb in front of the coach. Oh, this dude laughed at me.

I hope this person doesn't feel that way since he just laughed at me. And then you have the whole internet commenting about it. It's like, you're just, you're in such a bubble. And if you're like, like when I wasn't playing and then once I like this past year being on the Raiders and kind of enjoying that this could be my last year, my last time playing football and just enjoying it for what it is, like the game of football.

And people trying to bust my balls about not playing. And then I'm just like, I post pictures of myself standing on the sideline. It's just realizing that like shit isn't near as serious as you make it out to be. Because that, because that stuff blows over in those few weeks, like after the whole Arizona stuff and the Rocky season, like there are weeks like you're sitting there talking to Taylor

and you're like, there's nothing you can really say with somebody because you realize like they're, they're like, you know, you're like in it, you're fucking in it. And those situations, there's nowhere to zoom out. Right. And then you're, and then it's not as big of a deal. Right. And now he's months later talking about it in such detail in a podcast

because now you like gain perspective about what it actually was. And now next time you do it, he'll probably handle, he'll probably handle situations are in the moment when you're playing bad a lot differently because you realize like, oh, this shit doesn't last forever. I'm fucking in this moment. I just need to like get over the hook right now. I think a lot of other players probably appreciate the fact that you guys

are kind of the ones that are like, I don't know how to say it. And like, I've always heard British people say taking the piss. And I'm not, I'm still not sure exactly what it means, but it's almost like you're like popping that balloon that everyone's like walking around so uptight, like you said, everything's super serious in the NFL. And then it takes one person to be like, wait, what the fuck, we can still joke about this.

And then everyone's like, kind of deflates and they're like, oh God, yeah, that's, it's like refreshing to see that as a perspective. But in such like a high pressure situation, I feel like it's got to be healthy for a lot of guys to have some sort of outlet. Like you guys have like, I don't know, I feel like most players should have burner accounts if they don't have them already. Yeah, sounds like you guys have a couple of issues right now about burner accounts.

Oh yeah. I have two burner accounts. Do you actually? Youngstown Bob and Content Kim. I've accessed both their Twitter accounts. I started a burner account about a year and a half ago and it changed my life. Like on Twitter.

Oh man. I just, well, I don't use it to like talk shit about anybody. I just tweeted out all my worst opinions. Are you being, are you being dead serious? Yeah. Yeah. It was a big thing. Billy had to try to hunt it down and figure out who I was.

Did you figure it out? No. Cause he's more on. Now, do you guys have the burner? Is it burner Reddit accounts that I'm reading that I'm seeing? No, no, no. That's, um, These are Twitter accounts.

Yeah. Burner Reddit accounts. If you're trying to get like your own propaganda out there. That's, This is like the dude's name Zeke or Deke or something. Right. Yeah. That's Sussin with the boys.

Is that what like, is that what KFC's all wrapped up about right now? Yeah. I don't know who it is. Um, I personally don't really care. I'm sure that some people here at the company talk shit about us on Reddit. Oh yeah. You have to assume. Absolutely.

It's a company completely based around content. Like you got to assume like there's going to be a wave of people at the event probably on Reddit or probably on Twitter. Yeah. That's, that's right. I actually don't care. Young sound Bob hearing buzz in the office that will come to just retired from football and PMT.

Bob. That might get some traction. But honestly, having a burner account, I think is in a way mentally healthy. I think it's good to just be able to get the thoughts like out there, especially if you're like an NFL player and you're expected to, you know, like always be buttoned up and everything you say is a reflection on the team. There's definitely a way you have to be. I never in my life have thought about having another Twitter account or any other account

that wasn't me. And so the thought of it is like such, it's a crazy thought. Yeah. Because it would be all consuming. Like, especially when you guys, like Kevin Durand has talked about it and I actually think he's been way better once his burner account got exposed and he was able to just tweet his real thoughts from his real account and he just goes after. I think it's hilarious.

It is awesome. Right. It's awesome. It just goes after Kevin Durand. Yeah. He follows you. Yeah. I mean, he is one of the best players in the NBA.

So he does get a little more leeway. Like you have to be really, really good. Got to be really good. To be able to do that. When people say like locker room distractions, is there ever actually a distraction? Has anyone distracted by any of these distractions? Oh, that's a good question. But I'm sure the answer is yes, because I'm sure at one point there's got to be something

that's like, I'm sure Antonio Brown at one point was an actual distraction. But not because of what he posted online or anything, because he's Antonio Brown probably. Maybe or maybe he's saying something about somebody that has teammate or something like that. Yeah. I don't know. He was kind of a distraction when he was going live from like post game locker rooms when like Tomlin was talking to them and he didn't know he was live.

Like that stuff. Yeah. That's a bad move. That's a bad move. That's a bad move. That's a bad move. That's exactly what it is. It's just a bad move.

Right. That's a bad move. It's not really distracting. Like if I saw that amount, like, oh, my season's fucked. You know what I'm saying? It would just be like, oh, okay. So I don't do that. What would be an example?

Well, I mean, Will, you were on the Raiders the end of the year. They went through one of the craziest seasons. You weren't there when all that stuff went down. But you know, between Henry Ruggs, between Gruden going, getting fired, like all these things and they start like they have a coach change. Like was it, what'd you sense when you were in the locker room? By the time I got there, like everybody, like I've spoken at length about Coach Passaccio. Like everybody loved Coach Passaccio.

Foxhole guy. Yeah. Foxhole guy. We bet on him a couple of weeks in a row because Booger told us that and we, we, he was rewarded. He's a man, bro. And they have like a good locker room. So I, you couldn't really sense like any of the distraction that happened prior to

that. But like, you know, a good example, like being, being in Washington, like when stuff was going down with like RG and Kirk Cousins and RG having his comeback here, but he wasn't playing that well and Kirk ends up taking over the job. He's throwing three picks in a game. Should you go back with RG again? Like there was a lot of stuff to where the medium people write things where if you're not tight in the locker room and in the team meetings, like I think that's what Rable does

such a good job as if, is you're having a team meeting, literally. We're really gassing Rable on this thing. Yeah. He listens. He does listen. He does everything. But like, I think when, when, when you do that, you're able to like control the narrative or talk about stuff out in the open.

Whereas on Washington, there wouldn't be a whole lot of team meetings and you wouldn't talk about it. So a lot of news that you would see, you're reading online. So that in itself becomes a distraction because you're not necessarily getting it like from the headman or from any, you're not getting it direct. You're getting it from other sources. Can you, can you confirm or deny a story that we've been told? I won't say who told us this, but in, in those days in DC, it was, it was alleged that Colt

McCoy was super well liked by everybody. Right. And I think that's not, that's not far fetched to say that. That's what will's best friends. Everyone seems to like Colt McCoy. And he had a party. He decided he was going to have a barbecue at his house and he invited everybody. He loves barbecues.

Kirk Cousins was a starting quarterback at the time and Kirk Cousins got word on the street that there was this party going on. He got upset because he's the starting quarterback. He should be the one having everybody over. He found out that like his linemen and stuff were going to go to Colts. He put the word out that there was a party. Everybody was still going to go to Colts. He had to go to coach Gruden, Jay Gruden, and be like, Hey, can you tell, can you tell

Colt McCoy to not have his party? Well, first he said, trade him. Trade him. First, first he caught him or trade him. Secondly, can you tell him not to have his party at the same time that I'm going to have my party? And then allegedly everybody went to Kirk's party for like an hour and then left and had the real party at Colts.

I was not at either of these parties and I can't. Liar. Was it invited? No. Lie. Hand up. Hand on anything. I was at these parties and I do not, I wouldn't say confirm or deny, but I don't remember

Colt having like some barbecue party because again, I wasn't, I wasn't invited, I guess. Would it surprise you to know that that was true? You know, some stuff would be surprising, but some stuff, no, not surprising. Oh, wow. What an answer. What? Would it not be surprising? He saved it for his podcast.

This is why we should never interview other podcasts. That's true. Fuck us, dude. They've already taken all of our stuff. You know, it wasn't like guys did love Colts. We had to unpack that for a second. What? You guys are ripping us off?

You want to make it chat a little bit more quick? What? Unpack what? The fact that they think we stole their thing because they did up one, a couple episodes in advance. They don't. No, I mean, you guys, you guys are out chasing us for a while. They're not actually trying to, like, they're just, they're joking on us.

They're trying to get, they're trying to get me in. They're trying to get me in. They're trying to divide. They're trying to get their audience. They're trying to get their audience in their skin. Who did, there were some guests we had on recently that fucking Will was in the mentions being like, come on my show, please. That's it.

We will do that. That's not fucking true. What was it? Oh, are we talking about Max? You were tagged in the same tweet. Oh, yeah. Max, take a match. Come on, please.

Come on, show. No, no, no, no. Somebody said, somebody said he should come on our show. Yeah. And I responded to it. Yeah, you. You said that. Max, please, please, please.

My man, Max, favorited whatever somebody said to him coming on bus with the boys. So that's when I reached out and said, you know, you're more than one when they come on bus with the boys. I honestly never have a problem with that because like, no, I don't either. We did that. We did that. We did that. We also colleagues.

That's the oldest trick in the book is to just be like, come on, part of my take. It's funny to get you to have to explain it when I don't even need you to explain it because I saw it and I was like, yeah, I should go on with them. He's awesome. Are we colleagues that you root for? Yes. Is that true? Yeah.

You would grow your colleagues. Yeah. Definitely. After this week. Let's talk about that for a little bit. I definitely root for everyone. Do you really? Yeah.

You take a polygraph? Honestly, I never really root against somebody. Other people you don't quote unquote fuck with in this building? Well, there are people that I'm closer with than I'm not closer with. That's fair, but do you get along with everybody here? I do not shun anyone. There's nobody that I will like walk away from in the hallway. Yeah, but here's my question.

And listen, is this the camera here? I don't know anything. I don't know nothing. I don't know anybody's real business. I kind of tried to play catch up a little bit this week. Why, why you, why would you shun or not? I just don't want to be around him right now. I probably look, I'm at the end of the day.

I'm probably too soft and give too many second chance. And I told him to his face on Monday. I was like, at some point where I'll be fine with you right now. I'm just not. So like there will be a moment like summer's coming up. I won't be, you know, people be out of the office a little bit. I, I would almost guarantee that by fall time, like it's not like, we won't have a relationship that we had before because I considered him a friend.

So that's the part that people miss. Like I considered him a friend. So that was part of it. But we'll be back to a point where like, yeah, you know, we're, we're not like cool, cool, but we're, we're good. We'll work together. There'll be blemish. So there's just a little bit of time that I just fucking chill out and be like,

I don't really want you like sitting near me and like, give me, give me like a month and then I'll be good. And I don't, I'm, I'm, we're not going to be too much of a dead horse here. But I'm really, I'm really asking, I'm really asking because I just want to know, I want to know is like, what made you think, okay, I don't, it's just cause you're fucking boys with Hank like that. It was a lot of things. It was, it was the fact that I'm very, very tight with Hank.

I've been working with him for a decade. I also was friends with Marty and we also spent a lot of time together. Marty, Hank, PFT was there for a lot. Like all of us spent a lot of time together the last three months. And like, I start replaying. Like we took him to Madison, rolled out the red carpet, did a whole thing. We sat in Madison at lunch, all PMT and Marty. And he spent like a half hour talking about like X's and girls and stuff

the whole time he's dating Rhea. Like, so like shit like that where I'm like, wait, why, why are you doing that? You know what I mean? So I, those kind of moments are like, I just don't, it kind of just bothered me. And again, I'll probably be fine within a month. But when I heard and the way I heard, I was like, dude, that's not cool. Like we were literally on the road together for two months. And you could have said something then.

Yeah, anything. So I don't feel like anger about that. But when I look back on it, it is a sign that like, I don't know, it's a lack of trust maybe because you don't, you're clearly holding something back from people that like, I share everything with these guys like good, bad, whatever. It just is what it is. I'm never trying to like play a chess match or anything like that. I feel like once you start playing chess matches with people, you're going to get beat eventually.

And you're going to make a bad move. And it's just, it's not worth the time and mental effort to do, which is why I'm not, like I'm not playing a chess match against Marty right now. Probably kicked the shit out of him in a chess match if that was the case. You think so? You play chess like that? No, I'm just, I'm guessing based on Marty. But I've been failure.

He's never losing. Here's the thing. But I don't feel like that's ever productive. I feel like there's so much, so many more things that I can be using my mental energy on than like actively trying to like, you know, expend some of that on hating. So directing all that negative energy on something. I actually talked to him on the phone yesterday. This is breaking news.

I talked to him on the phone yesterday for about 20 minutes and I was like, dude, like, I'm, I just told him everything. I was like, listen, man, like this is why I was upset. I'm already, we're already four days past it and I've already cooled down like probably from a hundred. If I was a hundred mad, I'm probably like 50 now. Like that's how fast I cooled down. I'm not a grudge guy.

I don't spend time just hating things. So I told him that I was like, look, dude, if you just keep your head down and we just get out of our ways, out of each other's way for a couple of weeks, month, whatever, we'll be good eventually. So like, I'm not, I just don't have time to hate people like that, but it was, it was shocking. It was, it was just the combination of everything, the way I found out, the fact that I consider Marty a friend, how close I am to Hank, all that stuff, throw it all together that he

sits next to us and he sits next to Hank, throw it all together. And that's why I had my reaction. How, in a way that would work out, like where you didn't have any anger for Marty, like, what would you have liked to see happen if they were honest right away? Like, hey, we hooked up. Yeah. If, if Rhea and Marty were like, hey, we hooked up. Yeah.

Yeah. I think, I think I would. Is that Rhea? Rhea. Yeah. If I had just had something. Sorry. No disrespect.

Yeah. No, Hank found out, Hank found out a few weeks before everyone else found out and he said that he was very mad for 48 hours and then he was able to like, you know, calm down. We got none of that. You know what I mean? He found out we were at the Canelo fight and it was like, what's this? And then it was just, you know, so I, yeah, and obviously Marty doesn't have to tell me, but if he had, I think my reaction would have been a little different.

If I was in high school, I would have shunned and I did in high school to like friends that broke up with like their girlfriends and stuff. It was like, okay, I'm shunning this person. This person's no longer invited places. I'm going things like that. Yeah. I just don't, I don't have, I don't have the energy or like, I don't have the desire to do that right now.

Hank knows I've got us back till the end of time. Like I'd rather just focus on like me and Hank, we're good. Anything he needs, I'm there for him. You name it. He's got it. And he's, and Hank's proven like he's been so loyal. And I was actually telling these guys about this earlier, like Hank and his new job. That's why he's not here right now, by the way, is he's actually, he's running the company.

Um, but Hank. He didn't want to talk about burgers. Yeah. And he wanted to duck you. Hank has gotten a lot of shit over the years, like kind of as a joke, but sometimes from people that don't understand the joke saying all he does is press record. Hank is a genius in his own way. Like everything he touches works.

I think it's a perfect role that he's got. So I'm very happy to see him. I want to support Hank moving forward. I just don't feel the need to like, I'm not going to go out of my way to just like, I don't have that negative energy to give out. Yeah. My shunning is not like, it was just literally just move seats. Like I, I told Billy he had to go to the thing last night with him.

It's not like I'm going to just actively be like trying to stop him every spot. Yeah. So I don't want to, I probably am like a little bit too overprotective of Hank. I'll hand up. Well, I'll tell you what, if I'm Hank, I know him since he was 18. Like if I'm Hank and I'm, this whole thing goes down in the last 72 hours, like not just Tom Brady, but it seems like everyone's. Yeah.

No, you know your luck. Yes. Damn. Like good for him. Yes. Yeah. He's got to, he's got to be doing a deal. I have two more questions because we got to wrap up.

I got to run to the yak. One is for you, Taylor. Your tattoos. Yeah. I want to be a tattoo guy. Okay. I don't know how to start. Pinterest.

I love your tattoos. Do you? Yeah. I legitimately think you have very cool tattoos. Thank you very much. Honestly, I go to Pinterest right away. Yeah. Do you care if they have meeting or not?

Not really. Yeah. Go to Pinterest and then find out what you like. But can you just become a tattoo guy like that? Like when did you get your first one? Oh, 17 or 18, 17. Wait, I missed the bow. Your first one has to have meeting, right?

You didn't miss the bow? You reinvent yourself, bro. What's your, what's your first one? Your first one has to have meeting. You just got to get tattoos. My first one, my first one was just my last day. I'm getting yatted this weekend. I went to this tattoo shop in Arizona and they, I got Old English LeWon, but they put

an M instead of a W. So it was LeMann. Oh my God. And then LeMann. My second one was this mustache. That's cool. The third one I got was a Roman rule of six for my best friends in high school and a girl's initials who I proposed to from when I was leaving for Michigan, didn't work out. And then yeah, I had to start getting tattoos over and over.

Got tribal and then I was. Do you have one here? No, Ted. No, Willie doesn't. He's not a tattoo guy. If you're actually serious, I do want, but I don't know how to start. If I, if I were you, dude, I would go to Pinterest and find out what you like. Now are you a little worried?

Cause as you know, both of us fathers of two, have your kids been like, ooh, that's cool. I want one of these. Yeah. My oldest daughter wants that too. She's like, I can't wait to have tattoos like daddy. So when she's 18, okay. Cause here's all the tattoos I got before I was 20 or I'm trying to erase off my body right.

Right. I'm trying to erase them all. Except for this mustache. I love the mustache. That and my right hand man. This dude is. Oh, I like that. Yeah.

Right. It's clever. But yeah, I'm trying to erase all those. What's that? I'm going to get a plaid half-sleeve eventually. A plaid half-sleeve. Yeah. Well, I just tell people like that's my first tattoo that I'm going to get.

Yeah. And then I just say that I'm eventually going to get it. And I just never, I've never seen a plaid tattoo before. There you go. That would be original for sure. It might be cool. All right. And then my last question, rowback question, RHO, BACK, no big deal, take 20% off your

first purchase. Do you guys have rowback? Oh, we love rowback. Yeah. That's really good. JP's probably wearing a rowback. Get off Q-Zip's, Hoody's. We've got some for you.

Either of you can answer this, Taylor. You were there, one, two, or three, which interception was the worst from Ryan Tannehill in that game against the Beyates? Oh, my gosh. Because they're all like... I was thinking about it... The first play of the game is special. The goal line is, like, really bad.

And then, like, oh, shit, we just lost the game. Like, they all have very unique... Holy fuck, that sucked. Yeah. I think the first one was like ... whoops. You know what I'm saying? It was like a whoopsie daisy. The second one was a freak interception

by the nickel blitzing and then tipping it to himself. Yeah, who's got wheels, by the way. And then the third one, and listen, this is all insurance policy of I don't play quarterback. I have no idea how to read defenses. Third one is we gotta fucking go win this game and I don't know if it was an accident or not or what the deal was.

I don't know what the deal with third one was. So which one do you think was the worst, Will? Man, either that first or third one. Don't fucking take a deep breath. Like, hear about the dissect this whole thing. I'm a free agent. I'm a tough one, I was literally there. Yeah, I played with Ryan too, so for now I'm gonna reset.

It sounds like you put a lot of thought into this actually. Like you've considered this. No, I'm sitting here thinking about that and I'm thinking that's a good question. The second one's the bottom. It's either the first one or the third one. Because the first one's kind of just like, fuck. Dude, you looked at the dude the whole time.

I know, and I bet you guys that day, which is always a bad sign when I start believing in you guys. But if you want to bet on the Titans, we would. I was gonna say, my thought was like, come on now, come on, big, come on, big. My thought was like, and not even as much on Ryan, but it's like, we were running up,

the boys, we got the boys running a play action pass with one side just two tight ends and they're staying in the block. There's nothing else to do. What do you expect out of Ryan? And then the third down one, the third down one was tough. Because you're trying to fucking, you're trying to go down and win the game.

It's a pretty regular thing to have seven man pro. Are you really? Yeah, I know, but first play of the game. You're trying to take a shot down field. Everyone thinks Derrick. But that wasn't even a shot down field. Everyone, yeah, there was two reads on that play. It was either AJ or Julio.

I watched it. Yeah, I'm saying you have a seven man pro. Because you're thinking yourself, it's the first game back Derrick Henry said. So everyone in the world thinks we're giving the ball to Derrick first. Derrick's out there, everyone stays in, linebackers are shooting up.

At safety, just did something he never does. The answer is all three of them. Is that the answer? Yeah. There was a right answer to this. Yeah, are you upset that Ryan's not going to teach Malik Willis how to throw three intercepts in a playoff game?

I'm not upset about that. For the record, when you guys signed with Barstool, we had a press conference and we were like, we're not teaching these guys shit. That's fair. Yeah, it's really the same thing, yeah. And look how well we've done. We've actively tried to kill your peers.

It's not our job to mentor these guys. Yeah, it's not. But we ended up mentoring you. Hey, but if I could say, teaching you everything, you know. If I could say something. It's like what Ryan's saying about Malik, hopefully hanging around enough to pick up

some of the stuff we do, that's what you guys did with the entire team. I heard the soundbite. I think the soundbite was bad. Yeah, the soundbite was bad. Honestly, I don't care. That's the right answer. That's what he should say.

Dude, it's not Ryan's job to mentor the young guy. It's on the young guys. It's definitely the young guys' job to get as much from the vet as you fucking can. Because this dude's done it for a long time. It's not like Ryan's not going to. You never think, I'm going to go out of my way and do like this is in my job responsibility

or my job description to mentor somebody else. To teach him how to take my job. Yeah, the soundbite was tough, but he doesn't, Ryan didn't mean nothing but malicious by that. If I was Ryan, I'd probably just left that one alone. Yeah. I would have said, I would have been like, yep, and then I'd been like, fuck you, Malik.

And then I saw the person. If I really felt that way, like when I first visited the Titans, Michael Ruse was the left tackle. I DM'd him on Twitter and I said, hey dude, I would love if you like, and I could sit down and like learn the playbook. Never heard a thing. Of course.

Never heard a response. I would. Do you feel stupid sending that? I feel stupid or the older I get too. It's the one that keeps biting at the apple for me. Right. Definitely be like, oh man, what was I thinking? You're thinking like you're hungry to learn,

like you want to go in there and do all the right things. Yeah, I'm trying to show the vet too. Yeah, you're trying to make him like you, but you don't realize that by him teaching you everything, he's going to lose money because of that. You're quite literally taking money out of his kid's mouth. And it's crazy. Money, he's being his kid's money.

Kid's mouth. I'm thinking his kid's money's mouth. Money out of his kid's mouth. If he was like 42 years old, I think it's a fair question to ask Ryan Tano. But he's still like kind of in the prime of his career, right? Like why would he be expected to teach this guy? Yeah, I mean.

That's a tough deal. Also had a question ask you, Billy has this theory about the guy that you just mentioned, Derek Henry. Love Billy. Great one with this. Did you bring up the first? Great running back. Why does Billy have a pad and a pen?

He's got this question written out. He's an iPad. Oh, you wrote it down? He had a bad experience with Ryan Whittier this week. I know you want to bury him. No, no, no, no, no. I don't want to. For the record, Will's trying to bury Ryan Tano.

No, I'm not. I wanted to see something. Taylor, I'm not going to do it. Don't listen to him. Don't let him try to do it. Listen, last time you started playing that game, what happened? Last time you played that game.

I had to kill myself. Yeah, you had to kill yourself. We will have to talk to your son. Yeah, yeah. That was tough. The son texted him and said, why is my daddy hanging from the sea? Yeah, what a bit you stayed with him. Dude, that shit was so funny.

It was so funny. I just pretended that I committed suicide. And my son took the phone and was like, why is my daddy dead? Nothing says humor like murder or killing yourself. Or a three-year-old. Go ahead, Billy. What you got, buddy? Yeah, we got Billy.

And with this. Been walking. No, I had this theory that Derek Henry has super long legs for his height. Like the portion of his legs the rest of his body. I feel like it's actually detrimental and short yardage between the tackles because people can wrap up his legs more. And there's been a couple of times

where it's been proven right. But every time he does well in short yardage, it's like in a sweep or he's bouncing out of the tackles. Yeah. So that's just something to think about. If you listen about some of the boys, this has been talked about in length. Like that's his build.

And your boy R.C., your boy R.C. brought that up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Ryan Clarkson, he means Derek Henry in the hole. No problem to go up high on him. Yeah. I think, no, I don't think it matters. I think he's big and tall. And I think a lot of people had come at him for that.

But I mean. He's insane. I mean, I'm not saying anything about that. You're saying his long legs are detrimental in short yardage. Yeah, I just think everybody's like, oh, Derek Henry, like fourth and one, like half that. Derek Henry would have been the MVP this year if he didn't get hurt.

Yeah, 100%. I'm not saying he's bad. Same with me. Yeah, I would have been the MVP, too. No, if I hadn't gotten hurt. No, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you know? If I'm playing the entire year,

I'm probably getting deep into the play of the year. You think so? Yeah. Yeah, why not? You can't prove them wrong. RG3 would have won like nine Super Bowls. Just like if the Tanks, I mean, we're winning a Super Bowl. You did say that.

That's a fact. You did say that. For the boys. That's crazy. The boys. Yeah, all right. Well, we appreciate you guys busting with the boys. Go check it out.

YouTube podcast, they're very, very funny. You can go back. Listen, they had Bert on a couple of weeks ago. They had KFC and fights on. We got to come down. We'll come down. We need you to come down. Yeah, are you guys actually going to come down?

Are you just saying that? I'm actually, I might be in Nashville in like three weeks. We'll be here. There. Are you really? I think so, yeah. I think I'm going to be down there. We'll exchange your numbers.

We'll figure it out. Sounds good. But we appreciate you guys. Everyone go check them out. They are very, very funny and we root for them because they are our colleagues. Thanks guys. Love you guys.

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offered through SoFi Securities LLC. Member F-I-N-R-A slash S-I-P-C. Okay, we're gonna wrap up with hockey just to put a bow on at the final from Phoenix. Dallas, Mavericks, 123, Phoenix Suns 90. Chris Paul finished with 10 points. Huge, huge second half. They just ran out of time, big cat.

I don't, I really like, I actually am mad at Chris Paul. Oh, I am too. I'm furious at him. He robbed us. I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. Well, no, I'm mad because that was such an ass kicking. That was such an embarrassment

that there's a small part of me that feels bad. And I don't want to feel bad. I want to revel in this. I want to have fun with it. But there's a small part of me that's like, holy fuck, maybe everything that we've said as dumb, like kind of a shtick, but not really like, you know, narratives is true.

Maybe he does stink. Well, I mean, all the evidence would point you in that direction. They put a graphic up on TNT in the fourth quarter. It was sad. It was so sad when they were doing the lap around the stadium. Not only like with the sad Suns fans,

but also just like zooming in on Chris Paul. Well, I think Chris Paul put on like a full, like his entire street clothes during the game on the sidelines. He just got all bundled up. But they put this thing up there and pulling up the exact graphic right now that detailed Chris Paul's history in the playoffs.

In best of seven series, Chris Paul lost series after leading 2-0, 2008 West Simais versus Spurs, 2013 West first round versus Grizzlies, 2016 West first round versus Blazers, and 2021 NBA Finals versus the Bucks. Add to that list the 2022 second round against the Dallas Mavericks.

And there have been a lot of injuries in there and like weird shit, but man, it's bad. It's bad. And the Suns were the best team all year in the NBA. I think he was crying on the bench actually. See, he's robbing it. He's robbing us. Like we needed, no, this isn't right.

Let's go to our good friend Ryan Racilla for comment. Ryan tweeted, awesome. Awesome, yeah, awesome. He's, we're gonna give him some time. We'll hopefully have him on again. And he hasn't tweeted since then. That was an hour ago. Yeah, it's not good for our boy.

We're being nice to Ryan. We're getting that trending. Be nice to Ryan, hashtag, be nice to Ryan. All right, let's talk hockey. Let's start with Friday night. PFD Jake, go down to DC. Look like it was going to be an incredible, incredible win for the Capitals.

And then it was stolen from you over time loss thoughts and give us just dump it out. Dump out the titties. You guys look good. Yeah, so we were going to the game. We acquired the fake boobs. We had a swimsuit, memes ran out. And I think he went to Nordstrom Rack,

purchased this very tasteful bikini top for the game. We were going into the arena. We figured that the best way to get in would just be to put the boobs on underneath my t-shirt on the way inside, got through the initial line of security. There was a second line of security, one of whom was an AWL that was on the lookout for me. Fucking asshole.

He had me on radar. He tracked me in, pulled me aside, and I got ambushed by three or four security guards and they were talking to me. They were like, so why do you have breasts, sir? And I was like, well, I'm keeping them under my shirt and I've got a bikini. I would not have worn the bikini over the nipples

if I was just planning on exposing the fake breasts. And he was like, what section are you in? Let me see your tickets. He's like, oh yeah, these guys are definitely gonna be on TV. You need to give us the fake boobs. So we had to turn over the fake boobs unfortunately on our way in.

We had to improvise and say, okay, we'll just go tarps off for the lads. And then Jake, man of his word, true to his word, took his shirt off, was wearing the bikini top for like the first two periods basically, right, Jake? Looked great. He looked awesome. Looked great.

Jake was glowing. Yes. That the backup punishment was worse. I don't like taking my shirt off. Yeah, I know. I was actually thinking about that. What's Jake gonna do? And you guys both, many of your words.

How though, I mean, I think everyone wants to know, post game, we saw the handshake. How brutal was it, P.F.? I mean, I knew it was gonna be bad. We also agreed before the game to do a handshake when they were doing a handshake on ice. Yeah, we would do a handshake line of our own. Yes.

I knew that there would be handshake. I waited a few minutes. Do it right when they scored. He didn't do immediately when they scored. Part of that was I was laying down fully on the ground and just despair. I was like coach Buds when they hit a three in my eye. I just went, I planked.

I brought back planking after that. But I stood up, got back to my seat, Jake waited an appropriate amount of time, gave me the handshake, and then he went in for the hug. And the hug I was not ready for. The hug I could not handle in that moment. I fully expected the hug to come, but it was much worse in the moment

than I had even prepared myself for. Did you say I was going to be okay? No. What did you say? I said it was a great series. And it wasn't that great of a series. I still maintain, I still mean, it wasn't that great. It's a good series.

Stop it, Jake. You're right, it was a good series. I maintain that if that empty net goal goes in on Monday, that the capitals win that series. It's, it's interesting. Jake agrees. Stop it, Jake. Please stop it.

It is just game inches. Jake, do me a favor. It would make me feel, but you want me to feel better, right? It would make me feel good if you were an asshole to me about this. I can't do it. Please, that's what I need right now.

I can't do it. How, Jake, come on, please. Just say one mean thing. Feel like the better team won. Your team's stunk a game six. Oh, you didn't even mean it. You didn't mean it. I feel better.

I feel better. What do you want me to do? I feel better. Okay, ready? Yeah. Your fans were not locked in in the third period. Oh. And you agreed with that.

Oh. Two, two, six minutes left. They start doing the wave in an elimination game. And I'm like, I go to PFT. This is going to result in a Panthers goal. Your fans don't care right now. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, you're right.

And they scored a minute later. It was bad. We did the wave, and we saw it coming. Jake and I both agreed in that moment. Like, this is not a good omen for us. If it's, you know, like, I don't know, if it's the 30th game of the season, or something like that in the second period.

Two, two, spice it up a little bit. I'm not an anti-wave guy. I think the wave's fun sometimes. But you got to pick your moments. I think that was started by an agent of chaos. I think that was started by a Panthers fan that snuck in. Wow. The five of us there?

Yeah, all five of you guys. Well, no different from what it's like in Sunrise. And it was a bad. Oh, that was all the games have been selling out. That was me. Yeah, a lot of red sweaters in the crowd down there. Yeah, red and navy. I don't know what to say.

I was, I had accepted it at that point. I was like, this is not going to work out. Vernon Davis was like two seats over from us. You can see all the blood drain out of his face, too. He knew it was coming. Yeah. Was your boy Kodak there? I did not see Kodak.

I was looking for him and he DM'd me before the game. He's like, hey, you want to link up and have a grilled cheese? Yeah. That rocks? Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, me and Kodak like this. Me, Meek Mill, Kodak, best friends, all three of us. No, he didn't DM me.

Yeah, no, that was crap. All right. That was one of the little situations that Bubba was so pumped to maybe be one away from Kodak. Let yourself believe that. The time you took a picture with Uzi was one of the best days I was like, there's a chance I might meet him. I have a mean comment.

Another mean comment. Oh, now you're just unloading the clip. All right, yeah. What just happened was I poked a little hole in the dam and now it's all flooding out. Well, I want to do what you asked me to do. PFT was wearing a cap's hat, a cap's shirt, a cap's shoes, and his lucky cap's jeans.

I bought a Panther shirt at the NHL store the day before and ended his season. Wow. That's, I mean, it's all true. Memes chime in. Jake also gave PFT a game puck. Oh, that's so nice. Oh, yeah, another little story.

There was a crack in between the bench. Again, first row behind the bench. There was a crack in between the bench and our seat. My phone, beginning of second period, I was taking off my shirt for the bikini. My phone falls off my lap into the crack. The usher's like, we can rip apart the glass after the game, but you have to wait.

And then when they got my phone after the game, there was a puck there too. Wow. So you gave him a puck. I gave him a puck and he threw it and it almost hit an usher in the middle of the concourse. Well, I didn't want it. I didn't want the losing puck.

That's very nice of you, yeah. It's just a memory of pain that you tried to give me. It was bad, but you know what? Tom Wilson being out the entire series, it was just not our year to begin with. Sounds like an excuse. Jake, shut the fuck up. I have a spin zone for you.

Do it with your ass. I know, I know. And I love Jake. I love him to death, and he knows that this is all coming from a place of love deep down inside, but it was tough. And then after the game, we went out to a bar and I just got obliterated at this bar,

just like absolutely drowned myself. I ordered the biggest drink. It was like, I think they call it like a mega mule. It was a Kiev mule, but it was about seven times the size of a normal one. And I drank almost all of it by myself. Lost my jeans. I lost my pants in the bar.

For the better. So they just belong to the city right now. Somebody in Washington, D.C. has my oversized pants and that's just, you leave everything on the ice in the last game. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say they just threw him out. No. No.

No. No. Definitely not. I was like, these are sweet. That's a piece of D.C. The boobs are just in the security office of Capital One Arena. Yeah, that guy's horny.

He probably took them home. Well, also, how does someone who's a fan of this show like try to do that to us? He robbed, shame on that person. He robbed everyone. I'm suspending that security guard. You're listening right now. He seemed like a nice guy.

Stumb bag. But you're suspended for two episodes listening to part of my take. You know what? I hope that we get a situation where we have the same thing happen in that same arena and you try to confiscate my own personal breasts and then I sue you for life.

There was another security guard that came over, I think, before overtime started and he made us put our shirts on. Even though we had, I was covering two out of my four nipples so it wasn't a big thing. If you were a hot chick, it would have been fine. Exactly. This is bullshit.

It's tough being a guy sometimes. The guy's getting persecuted. I have a spinoff for you. All right, hit me. You're not a Maple Leafs fan. That's true. So the other. I kind of was this year.

Yeah, that is true. Yeah, but the Maple Leafs, the Toronto Maple Leafs, lose game seven. That was the other notable. We had a bunch of game sevens. The Bruins lost to the Hurricanes. The Edmonton Oilers won while everyone was sleeping. I assume everyone was sleeping.

Very late at night, Connor McDavid. But the Maple Leafs, that was the fifth time in a row. Five years in a row, they lost a Winner Go Home game. The only reason I'm not saying game seven is because that stupid bubble where it was a five game series, they lost in the fifth game. It is so, so bad for them. They've done it every single which way.

They haven't won a series since 2004. They now will be drafting players in this year's draft. They will be born after they last won a playoff series, which is incredible. That's good, though. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, in a way, yes. You're right, in a way.

I usually don't put any stock into the old stats. They're like, well, the Maple Leafs, when they play against the Kings in the Stanley Cup finals, haven't won a game since XYZ or whatever it is. Probably never happened, actually. But the ones that they always bring out of the history between these two teams, I don't really put that much stock in it.

But it's got to be good for Toronto having players that have absolutely no comprehension whatsoever about the history of your team. Yes, it is. I mean, they have now, they're 10 straight, they have 10 straight losses in games that could close out a series. Think about that.

So in the last five years, they've been up three, two twice and three, one another time. They're up three, one last year against Canadians. They have had 10 straight losses in closeout games. And that's not even throwing in the, like all their recent terrible, terrible string of luck in the last five years. I completely forgot.

I went back and I looked at their playoff history. That game seven in 2013 against the Bruins, when they were up four to two, with two and a half minutes left and gave up two goals in 31 seconds and then lost in overtime. It's tragic upon tragic. They were fighting each other, which I'm actually, I was thinking about it, I'm a fan of that.

I think that at some point, you just have to fight each other to iron sharpens iron. In the concourse, there was videos. And then they also had the quote, which was kind of taken out of context, but it's still, I ran with it. Most people ran with it. It was a real quote.

Let me just pull it up real quick. Shit. If I'm the Maple Leafs, I gotta release a statement. I gotta do the Tampa Bay Lightning thing and put out a very, the most sad, pathetic statement about how bad your team is. I mean, like we're going to learn from this. You will never see a team work as hard as we do.

Yes, exactly. Sheldon Keef said after the series, they got a lot more respect in the post-series handshake line from the Lightning than after previous losses. That's good. That's improvement. Huge. It's baby steps.

He did go on to say, we're not in the respect game. We're in the winning game. We've got to find a way to do that. So that is the full quote, but just saying we got a lot more respect. Hey, that's a win. You guys, people are respecting how you lose. They won game eight of the series.

They won game eight. They won the, yeah. We walked away. Basically. Undefeated in game eight. The Lightning, Jake Marsden. Yeah, exactly. They were like, we, yeah, you guys played a hell.

You guys were way better than we thought. Jake, did you, did you plan on, on giving me the full hug or was that a spur of the moment? No, that's, that's. No, a spur of the moment. No, that's not his playbook. A lot of people were saying like, oh, he's doing the muscleman thing to you.

I was like, no, no, no. I think this was just like Jake wanted to hug me. All of the players do that too, not all of them, but some of them who have a lot more respect than usual, like they go in for the hug. The goal, the goalies are always double respect. Yeah, of course. So much respect.

And then we had the Rangers just beat the penguins in overtime memes. Cause Hank is in Boston. Memes is, is behind the camera right now. Memes, I have not seen someone root so much against the team than what you're doing with the Rangers. Every time we watch a Rangers game, you're rooting so hard. I thought you were a penguins fan for a minute.

And then I realized, no, no, no, this is just, he's a diehard Islanders fans. He hates the Rangers. So where are you at right now? Big Keynes fan now, Keynes before they can't lose a home. Raising Keynes. So you just really like despise the Rangers. Yeah, I'm not a fan.

Not a fan of their fans, not a fan of anything they do. They're terrible people. Their fans are literally just the exact same people as Islanders. Either your neighbors. No, no, garbage. I don't think we ever mentioned this, but when we did the congrats off in our chat,

Memes was like, is anybody gonna congratulate me on the Rangers losing? Yeah, right. I could tell. You could tell when you're around someone and it's like very personal. And I love it. I appreciate anyone who has that type of hate,

but it threw me off cause I was very confused with how much you were cheering for the penguins. So you're just like, if the Rangers win the Stanley Cup, rank that on worst things that could happen to you as a sports fan. So Patriot's winning, which is like my whole life. Yep, you're a Jets fan. Yep.

And then. So much so he wouldn't shake Julian Edelman's hand when he came in the first time. And then. Which was actually a hilarious move. He just was like, yep, all right, hello. Me and my dad said to each other, we were like, the Rangers are gonna win

and it's just gonna suck. And all their fans are just gonna rub it in the face. What would you rather have? The Rangers win a Stanley Cup or the Butt Fumble happen all over again? Good question. Rather kill myself. Good answer.

Butt Fumble. No. Oh, this is when you know it's really bad that you can't, you're torn. Yeah, no, he's having legitimate conversation inside of his own head. No, Rangers, Rangers. That's worse.

And yeah, we can't start over with the Butt Fumble. Okay, yeah. And you know though, as party, oh, he's second guessing that now, as part of your job, if the Rangers win a cup, you gotta tweet about that a lot, like a lot, a lot.

I am unbiased, so I will tweet it out. I think, I think- Yeah, I'm very unbiased. You're like one of those, you know, like Facebook had to, there's like people who had to basically be a moderator on Facebook and take down like violent videos and stuff and they all got like PTSD.

That's just gonna happen to you if the Rangers win the Stanley Cup. Yeah, it's like the crying face with the happy face on it. Tell it to us like a meme. I think, yeah. I think if the Rangers win the Stanley Cup, memes, you gotta go cover the parade for us.

Yeah, oh yeah. I actually am gonna put you on a tweet count too. Like I want like 100 positive tweets on the Rangers. I want us to be a Rangers. Like part of my take Twitter account and Instagram will be rangers central. I got a massive future on these Rangers. Yeah, so we gotta cover that.

So we gotta cover the team, right? Go Canes. No. Go Rangers. Yes, yes, you have to if it's, I mean, listen, we might, yeah, I think I'm gonna be rooting for the Rangers now too. It kills him so much.

It's like you with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I know, I can tell and it's just, I love it. I appreciate it so much. I like, this is what sports is about. You gotta hate when your team's not in it. You gotta hate, you gotta find a way to hate. I hate him so much. All right, well said.

Just jump on board that they're better without Lunkwist's train. That's true. Cause it's a nice, low backhanded. He's a very overrated. Yeah, no rings. No rings. I went, I actually, Bubba, I know you're a big fan of his.

I actually did go to his house one time. Who? Lunkwist's house. Why am I a big fan of it? Oh, I just feel like you like Kodak Black. You like all these big celebs that we run the same circles with. But I went to his house one time.

That's a very big stretch right there. No, but I went to his house one time and I was like, hey, I'm pretty thirsty. Do you have anything to drink? He couldn't give me anything to drink. Can you believe that? You're fucking with me again. No, no, no, no, ask him why.

Why? Cause he doesn't have any cups. Bam. I got it. Yeah. That was Frank Fleming originally. That's a Frank to Tank show. I mean, the OV with the bag of golf clubs gift.

I mean, that happened for like 10 years straight. That's why we have to, that's why we to put a cap on this whole podcast. That's why we have to cherish Chris Paul and what he brings to us. Narratives that we can just believe in, even though the player is very, very good Hall of Famer, they're just so much fun.

They're great. I never got the OV golf clubs thing. Like what, he's not a golfer. Like, have you ever, what about OV screams? He probably killed Putin. Like the caps losing probably sent Putin over the edge. OV, the first time he ever played golf had a hole in one on his first hit.

On his first hit? There's no way that's. Looked that up. Yeah, no, I swear to God, it's on tape. What? Yeah. First time he ever. Ever.

That's possible. Ever. I don't know if it was his first time ever hitting the ball, but the first golf outing he ever went on, he hit a hole on the first hole. Wait, part three's are not a hole one. I bet Pilly believes to that Kendra, I got like a 30.

No, dude, it was posted to. But a part three never leads off. That's very rarely a hole one. I would say never. I would say part three, part four. Or pitching putt. Also, shout out to Albuquerque Hulse for pitching. No, no, no, no, it was scratched out from the record.

It was very cool. Fat fuck. It was very cool. According to golf.com, Alexander Ovechkin made a hole in one during his first ever round. Okay, that's a little different. According to golf.com,

you said the first swing he ever took with the golf club. First swing, first hole, boom, hole one. You know this podcast is recorded. I know, I know your words. I, there was a little hyperbole there, but it's still crazy the first time he ever went golf. That is crazy. That is crazy.

So speaking of Ovechkin and golf. He's a really good golfer. He's a great golfer. I don't know if he's a good golfer, but he's a lucky golfer. Oh, he got a hole in one. On his first swing. Yeah.

He's a good golfer. The sources are saying. By the way, Billy, definitely he did report that Vladimir Putin was dead. Low key. Off the air. No, but he called it, he said low key. So that means that there could be a chance he's not.

He's John Cena. Yeah, low key. I did. Boon might be dead. I shot him down. Yeah. Low key. Low key.

What, when does it become high key? When he's high key dead. Oh, he's gotta be dead to be high key dead or wouldn't he not just be dead? Well, like, there's stuff going on. I think when the rock tweets about it, he's high key dead. Yeah.

All right, good show, everyone. Also, the flames and stars are playing, but there we go. There was your mention. There are a lot of people that love this podcast. Why does Shaq have a cowboy hat on right now, too? Because of Mavericks. Okay.

Yeah. And the women's San Antonio. Yes, yes. Charles Barkley did say that once. Six. Several times. Charles Barkley not Shaq did say that. Yes.

All right, numbers. What's Chris Paul's number? Three. Three. 25. I'm gonna go with 13 again. 13 is out of play. Oh, it's out of play.

Unless we put it back down. Okay, no. Oh, is Chris Paul 13? CP3. CP3. But is he? Is he where? I don't know.

I'm gonna go with... No, he just jokes. 28. What do you got, memes? Did Billy pick 69? 69. No, 68. Okay.

No, he's three. He is three. I don't know why. Oh, USA. Yeah, there it is. I'm so smart at sports. 28. That's probably what I meant.

18. Oh my God, you made me win it with a different number. You said to win it with a different team. That's my number, and then I changed it. Wow. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Wow.

Hank probably would have taken 18. Yeah. He loves that. Raccoons have thumbs. Really? Yeah, watch them. Just Google, raccoons washing their hands. It's actually freaking nuts.

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