Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - Now That's What I Call Parenting Hell... Volume 13

Episode Date: August 23, 2024

As we take a very short break during the summer holidays - here’s a selection of some of our favourite chats about (mostly) parenting misadventures with previous guests…  See you on Tuesday 3rd September for Series 9!! Episode Playlist: S6 EP10 - Cariad Lloyd S6 EP44 - Scott Bennett S6 EP18 - Tom Daley S7 EP24 - Dame Jessica Enis If you want to get in touch with the show with any correspondence, kids intro audio clips, small business shout outs, and more.... here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available free everywhere every Tuesday and Friday.  Join the mailing list to be first to hear about live show dates and tickets, Parenting Hell merch and any other exciting news... MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.

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and she puts chairs everywhere and that's everyone's post book and you have to write, but obviously you're trying to get ready, it's quite stressful. She was like, mommy you haven't left me a note, and I'll just get a note. I'll just get you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th m m m m you th. M you th. M you th. M you you haven't left me a note. I'm just gonna, I've just gonna literally put clothes on. And she went, I've left you a note. I was like, okay, I'll read my note. And it just was a sad face. And it said, you know, in child's not proper spelling.

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Exactly. I'm on strike. Deal with it. It makes you feel better. They do that to me and my wife as well. The eldest, who's sever now, will write things like you make me sad I hate you and draw the sad crying face yeah that's what she does the sad phase yeah did we do that I do not do that

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Lay that on sticking on the wall become quite like that's the most excitement or like drawing on the outside small balcony with chalk. It's like, what do you want to do chalk? Chalk is a... Chalk is good, isn't it? Yeah, chalk's a winner, isn't it? At least it washes off as well with the chalk, so. My daughter came home from her friend's house on Sunday, and she had just an A with a circle around it on her head like she's kind of branded. Anacus. Yeah like an Anacus sign. Where was she? What was she meeting?

She's mates who Swampies kids they live in East London. Well trendy. Swampy works in media now. It's East London in it mate. But I just couldn't tell I had no idea looking at the ink. It could have been a sharpie. It could have been a sharpy. And you you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I th. Yeah. Yeah. I th. Yeah. I this th. Yeah. I this this this th. Yeah. Yeah. I th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like this this th. Yeah. Yeah. Like like like like like like like like like like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I this. Yeah. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. I this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. this. th. looking at the ink. It could have been blood. Oh, permanent, yeah, a sharpie. It could have been a sharpie. And you're just like, if this is a sharpie, what the fuck happens here now? Is it an Avengers, A? or something? I don't think they're into the Avengers. You're being kind of. She's an anarchist.

She's an anarchist. it that she and her friend were the patients in the hospital and her other friends with the nurses or the doctors. So labeling the patients do not go near yeah it's a bit traumatic that sounds deep deep drama yeah she seemed quite happy with it they'd also drawn like an X on her hand that look like sure they're her friends mate she's going down to protest she's striking next week that's what this is well and they just punch her in the nose and it bleeds and then they have to help her because they're the doctors. So how do you stop a three-year-old drawing on your walls, Karad?

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he's oh he's such a liability honestly he's a rogue his cat he's absolute bastard you have constantly say something over and over again like did you like you hear me where you're listening is where you're listening is and he can be three rooms away and you'll be like oh you know for his birthday we need to sort out the cake and he's like yeah I want chocolate cake and you're like you fuck I like I follow you around being like did you hear me you need to put your shoes on you need to put your shoes on nothing so he's really my daughter's much more argumentative how good which would you tak to the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the to to to the the the to the to the to the the the the the the the the to the to to to their to their their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their I their I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their tho. tho. their thoo. their their thoooooo. the thooooo thoooo to to to the the their their their their their take over the options? I quite like the argumentity because at least you know they're listening.

So if you say, put your shoes on, she's like, I don't want to, and I'm not going to. And you feel like, okay, we can have a conversation like you're engaged with me. Whereas him, you're like, I don't know if he knows I'm here. Is he awake? What's happening? If my daughter's watching TV, it's fucking insane how close I can be to her and she isn't hearing me speak. I can't believe this is happening, how she can tune in on it. And I believe she's doing it. I don't believe she's playing me.

No, I think they genuinely can't hear you at our points. And also it depends what you're competing with as well. We say so much shit to them. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Brush your teeth, shoes on upstairs, have you done your own, what do you want to eat below it? I'm surprised I don't just scream that's fuck off. Leave me! They do! They draw on the floor and go, this is my way of saying fuck you. Yeah, jadden it all that all morning. So all they write your notes and say, you don't love me. Yeah, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to th. to to to to to te. toge. toge. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. toge. te. toge. toge. to just difficult isn't it when I mean the stupid thing to say but when two kids are very different you're constantly having to re-evaluate your parenting because like well this

worked for six years and now it doesn't so you're like oh shit what do have to do with you like I've got to think about it? Fuck off. Do they play together? Do they get on really well. Yeah I'm lucky they get on really well. Maybe this is a lockdown thing. They had a lot of time together. Yeah. He was born five days before the lockdown. Wow. Oh my word. Yes. Talk us through that for a couple months. Well I listened to this show a lot actually I found it quite helpful with that beginning bit when I was like... Another later episodes okay. Okay not a later episodes okay. know, they had the, you know, freshness about. Okay, wait a minute, it's difficult second album, okay? Yeah, difficult, it's difficult. No, she was about three-ish when the lockdown happened and I was pregnant when it all began,

no, sorry, when it was like, oh, what's this? And then he had to be elective C-s because he was so massive like he is also a giant a giant cherub you need to imagine a giant drunk cherub how big was he he was nearly 10 pounds and I'm you've met me I'm not I'm not a tall big person I'm a small person yeah you're not a 10 pound carrier carrier carrier I don't tell you know I'm not you know I'm not I'm not I'm not my body was not you can't you can't tak a 10 pound you go you go you go you go you go you go you. They made me go in for scans every single week because they refused to believe I didn't have gestational diabetes. They kept saying, who tested you? This can't be right. They said, he's so big.

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When my daughter was young, they go, she just looks like your husband. I'd be like, it's a bit of a bit like no. you go, wow I feel shit when you say that really shit. Well what I used to get is so when they're badly behaved, they're like, oh, it's a bit of the dad coming out now. Oh, what, so they don't look like me when they're a prick, it's moral. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got loads of ADHD in my family. So when they're like really hype, What mental health problem are you bringing to the table?

Yeah, what damage have I too into their body DNA-wise before the world's even had an attempt at them? Because not fair is it? Because in the olden days you wouldn't know, you'd just be like, oh no, they're a bit boisterous. There's nothing to be with me. But no, oh no, we've all been diagnosed. I just liked too much. He shouldn't have too much, that's up. So what was your sublet on the percentile thing? Because I love that word as well.

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Thank you very much, Scott. Thank you, thank you for having me. It's an early one, isn't it? It is. I was just saying before we got started. When this came through and it said 9 a.m. I was like, what the fuck is wrong with these guys? Do you know I genuinely thought that you two were in Australia. That was the only thing that made sense to me. I thought well they're in Australia it'll be like 10 o'clock at night there where we're all rock and roll comics and they were like no. It's genuinely we're going out before the end of GB news. Not Gv news. A Dilil right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're all all all all they're all they're all all they're all all all all all all all all they're all all they're all all they're all all all they're all they're all they're all they're all they're all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all they they they they they they they they they they're they they're they they're they're they're they're they're they're all they're all they're all they're all they're all their their their their their their their their their th tho. their tho. their their their tho. their their their their their their the end of GB news. That's what we're going to do. Not GB News.

A deal right is still discussing politics. This is thinks for anyone else, but for parents, 9 o'clock, is like, no, that makes complete sense. You've been up. Well, yeah. Three hours. To be fair. This is how you get to the top of podcasting, mate. We're doing 16 episodes of today. We will be working until 10 p.m. Not many people know that me and Rob

record all of parenting health for a year in the space of a week and then we'll be doing all the the they times of a week and then we'll be doing all the LA guys. It was a 24-hour process. This is a worse contract than working for Amazon. I do sometimes think, you know, Rob, you've got a job that you love and you get to pick your hours. Why the fuck are you doing this at 9 a.m.? Well, the mad thing is, is I said to you, that my kids are on holiday. They're in bed. They've just hit full student. So they're not even awake your kids? No, my seven-year-old doesn't surface till 10. It's just, yeah, just comes down like, you know, like a student. Well, it's been great

to have you on Scott, but I think we're going to end it there. I don't think I can handle a full episode of your daughter waking up. What time is she goes to bed? He said, don't know. Can I just say, it's gone a bit lax this week. Right, right, okay. We've sort of, it's drifted. Yeah, it should be fair, it's only Thursday. It's not like week four of the summer holidays. I know.

Well, the problem was is that they've started sleeping, My eldest tends to look after the youngest in a morning so she'll sort of get her breakfast for her because the eldest is 12. And me and Gemma were laid next to each of the last week. It was like a Sunday and I was like my God it's like half ten. We could hear him downstairs and she was like oh this is brilliant this isn't it? They're looking after each other I was like well it's neglect. It's just bad parents in me. It's just bad parenting me. She can hear the eldest boiling pans. Yeah. Boiling pans at 8 a.m. going for fuck's like two more hours until she's down for breakfast, fully laid out table, living. So what time do they go a bed at the moment?

Don't panic. I'm not from the council. The youngest is, I know it's too late let's rain it back half night. What like when you're filling in how much alcohol units you do with the doctor let's go for what's acceptable. I'll put in the truth and acceptable. Yeah what are the units for 15 p.m. the true the truth and what are the units for 15 p.m. their times a bit late but it's Easter holidays I th is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is. It is. It is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's. It's. It's. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's is. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. going to bed at 7pm. I think 10pm's a bit late, but it's Easter holidays. I think you can be let off. And also, you've got a 12-year-old, so it's very difficult to get the youngest to do what the eldest was doing when they were seven.

Yeah, and they sort of squirrel away. LED lights in a bedroom the other day, my oldest. Now this is the thing apparently, you can control them with a phone. So what I've done is I've combined keeping her awake with a device so it's perfect parenting. So she has to turn her lights off with her phone, which is really good. That's excellent one. I think they say that, don't there? It's a good way to calm down before bed. So you'd be in charge of a lighting rig from your phone at 12. To be a roadie for pink flies before you nod off. That's what I was doing the other day was putting lights up in the bedroom. I don't know if you get this, Scott, but I get a slight lockdown. I get a slobocked when the kids are off school.

Definitely. You know, like when they're off over Easter and the news. In case we're not allowed the Nan round. I think Jemmer gets a bit annoyed with me because I'm one of those people that I feel like I need a plan for the day. I don't know if you guys are like that, but I feel like you guys idea of like we need to be doing something. We've got to get out at some point. Get on the bikes or just, I just had the idea of, I can see in the shed these bikes I got

them just decaying. It's like, you know, when you drive a car off the forecourt, it's like those bikes are losing value on an hourly rate. to try and get him in the park. It's so wet and cold. Yeah. But even now it's like it's a bit slipping. It's a bit cut. They don't want to ride a bike in this. We get about two weeks a year or it's bike riding weather for kids really. Yeah. And I think Gemma always thinks I'm going through this checklist about it be a perfect parent. But I'm just like it's three o'clock and the th. th. finished breakfast, Scott. Well breakfast just goes into dinner, that's what we do. It just, every meal, just and then, you know, can't go out now? It's evening meal time.

You do a podcast with your wife, Jemma. Where are you now though? It looks like you're in a garden shed? Is this your own podcast booth? podcast with Gemma that's filmed in the house. You've got proper stuff up, you've got foam on the ceiling. Yeah, so what happened was, when I quit my job, my proper job, Gemma said, what was that? I was a product designer, so I had like a career and everything. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, and I should know that because you told us that when you did the live shows of us Scott. It's all right. Glad I made I'm th I I I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th. th. th. th. th. to th. to th. to to to to to to th. to th. the the the. the. the. the the the the. the. the. the the. the the the the the the the the the the th. th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the to to that to to that to to that that to to to to to to to to to to to to to theeeeeeeeeeee emmer said, well, you'll need a place to write. So I came home from work the week I'd quit and this was in the garden.

She'd had this shed put in. Right. It's like a gift. It's like you've quit your job. Oh, that's nice. I mean, you say a gift. And now you can't work in the house. Exactly, she's put me in a kennel, Josh, is what she's done in. Literally doghouse. I couldn't get any further away. I'm so far away from the house that the Wi-Fi cuts out.

Oh no! Oh, man. So I've had the internet put in, I've had it all insulated. And in lockdown, obviously, this is where I did most in the oil heat? Oil heat, yeah, it feels apocalyptic, if I'm being honest. I feel like one of those people in America that, you know, live off roadkill and stuff like that. But yeah, we started doing a podcast after the lockdown. And then someone said to me the other day, which is an interesting and I've never considered, doing a podcast with your wife is great. You know what I get you know opposing views you get the truth regularly

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You don't know what you're in. You're sleeping really well. We've got a match. I should say you should get a mattress topper. That is an absolute game changer. Have you got one of them? Yes, we've got one. to get bad back to back back back back back back back back back back back back back back back. But yeah, it was that weird moment, sort of two o'clock in the afternoon. They say never go shopping when you're hungry.

I think never do mattress shopping when you're tired. I will lay next to Jemmer and we were going like, I could go now. Two o'clock in the afternoon in dreams, just go. Yeah, I think being a parent with young kids, every mattress is fine. It's hard to judge it. Yeah, this is the thing she was like what do you think of this one? I was like they're all great. We're laying down, we're on our own. It's all great. Can you just leave us? I just want 20 minutes in dreams on a Sunday afternoon. But I think this is one of my business plans that I'm never going to do is I don't want a hotel room but sometimes I just want a bed for an hour. You can find them in town.

I'm so with you on that. It's when they kick you out of a hotel at like midday and you're just wandering like a zombie. Yeah. I just want to lay down. Yeah, I think that's a comedian problem. I don't know. Most other people aren't killing five hours in Norwich to do a gig. thage.'clock. But don't you say you're meeting your friends for dinner, right, say you finish work at five and you meet you for friends for dinner at seven and you

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And I was just like, I could just lie on the floor in private here. That is amazing. As I can imagine you just curled up with a little bottle of radox you have to bring into the illusion cover story. Welcome to the podcast. Is it Sir Tom Daly? You must have some sort of OBE, MBE, OBE, OBE? OBE, OBE? to be a to be honest. You'll be a Sir one day, Tom.

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Yeah, I think he got to pay for the pictures in the video. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. They're like you're not allowed to take your phone and no pictures inside because we're going to take them for you and charge you. Yeah. At graduation, how much for a video of getting your OBE? Oh you don't get video. Oh exactly. Just Just her? I was just lucky that. That's free for me. How much was it? Can you remember how much it was like school photos? I think it's like 250 quid? I mean, that Winter Castle must be a steep up peep, I must say, but apparently we have to keep chipping in. Wow. So, Tom, we're not just his talk about your visits to the royal family,

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things like that I would be away for quite a lot of time so there was not necessarily the most even of balances in that but when we're both home I like to cook so I've always done all of the food and I'm also being an athlete I was very much the one he was like recording the recording the the the one the one I was recording I was recording I was recording I was recording I was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the one I was very the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th was I I was th was the I was the I was the I was. I was. I was they. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was theeee. I was the writing a training program really of like the food, the like how many times he's peed, how many times he's poed, how many time he's pooed, all of that stuff and it's like all of the things I never thought I'd be writing down in a little book, but there I was doing, was like you read so many books and you hear about what you should be doing, what you shouldn't be doing, how's best to like interact with someone and it's just like so crazy chaotic all the time that I just felt like there was that way of being able to have some kind of, I guess control because you feel so out of control in those

first few weeks that you're like, what is this human being alien that you're holding and how all of a sudden now I am like the prime carer. They are completely dependent on what I do and what I say and how we act with them. So it's for me it just allowed me to like take some kind of stuff out of my head and just put it onto paper so I didn't have to think about it anymore. Yeah, so it was a bit of control. If you're like, if you're logging it, you're doing something something something something something something something something something something, to, Did you find it quite stressful then when when he was little? Yeah I mean the biggest stress thing for me was sleeping at night and then looking at him and he was so peaceful and it

looks like oh my gosh is he breathing and I know to the parentheat. Oh I used to like to like wake him up. Oh one site my daughter's to he's like. I I he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he was like he he was like he he was like he he was like he was like he was like he was like he was like he was like he was like he was like he's he was like he's he was like he's he was like he's he was like he's he was like he's he was like he was like he was like he was like he's he was like he's he was like he's he was like he's he was like he's is he was like he's is he was like he's is he was he is he he is he he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he he is he is he is he is he is to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to he is he is he is once I'll be back and a second this is absolute classic. The daughter's one's like you carry it you talk to me too Josh's daughters off he's scurrying out the room his daughters off sick but yeah I've done that before you wake them up see if they're okay and then they're awake all night and you're like why did I do think you know about what your child is going to be like, you just never know what's going to happen and what turns going to happen next. And I remember so many people giving me advice on this, you should do this or you should try

this and this is how you should do it. And I was just like, and when people ask me, what the biggest piece, to the biggest, what, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to, to, and, and, and, to, and, and, and, to, to, and, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to any other parents advice because like they don't know the kids. So it's like that's for me one of the things I had to learn and come to terms with for sure. Yeah, it's a bit like you know what you need to do with kids is. It's the same as going, do you know what you need to do with people? Yeah,that something that was always, or was you just focused on the diving and then that was something you've thought about when you were getting near the end of your career? You're only 28. I mean you could probably still go again. Yeah, I could go again. I could go again. I am the granddad in diving to be honest. I am like one of the old. I swear you started about six. I started started about about to started about to started about about to started about to started about to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th so th so tho you've tho you've tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th th th th th th th. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. tho tho tho tho tho the the the. the. the. the. the. the. thee. theee. thee. theeeeee. thooooooe. the. the being a, yeah, I've always wanted to be a parent. I remember when I was like 16, 17 years old, when I used to go away traveling for competitions, I used to see kids clothes and be like, I'm going to get that for my future kid. Like, I just knew that I wanted to be a parent. And then when I just knew that I wanted okay could you have imagined yourself having kids and he was like yeah sure like I want kids and then we named

our children in that first week. Wow so you win food's deep first date? Yeah literally we broke every single rule of dating possible like that we were just went straight for it names and Robbie ready is here now so like we stuck with the same name wow so good How long between then and having the kid? Five years, six years. Yeah, oh cool. So it's not like you sort of like decided then, you know, had a child straight away. It's like there was a bit of time between it. But I do think that's a good thing in, like dating, just being honest and totally yourself straight off the bat. It does cut out that six months and pretending, to pretending, to pretending, to pretend, to pretend, to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, their, their, their, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's, thi's, thiiiii's, thiiiiii. thi. they. Exactly. Because it's like you know Lance was like my first ever long-term relationship really and like for me I was like if I'm going to invest my time in a

relationship because you know with training I didn't really have much time at all so if I was going to invest in something I was like I to know that I'm going to to get the outcome that I want again it's very athlete mindset. Again. I. I. I. I. I th. I I th. I th. I I I I th. I I I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going th. I'm going thi. I'm going thi thi. I'm going to to to thi. I'm going thi. I'm going thi. I'm going thi thi. I'm going to to to to thi I'm going thi I'm going. I'm going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going to going to going to going to going to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to get to to to get to get to get to get to get to know the plan. What am I doing? Where am I going? I was like writing down things, like, you know, what did he say on that day? Like, okay, yeah, I've got this. So for me it's like, I'm learning more and more about myself.

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is like survival mode. Really, yeah. Oh, six weeks you're being very, very kind. I'd say the first six months for survival mode for me. True. I still feel like I'm in survival mode for me. honest. And was it surrogacy you and Lance did? Yes, yes. And then excuse my novelty but so did you get Robbie Ray like immediately it's sort of you're there for the birth and stuff like that is that is that how it is? Yeah exactly we're there from the birth and there's lots of different ways with

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with her kids as well. Yeah it is a very magical thing. The whole thing. It's a very magical thing this the whole thi.. Yeah and how much are you in contact during the pregnancy and stuff? The whole time. I mean we text all the time and especially like you know every day we would also come to the appointments and you know if we couldn't be there in person because she lives in America we would dial in on Zoom or on Face Time or whatever and so we were in constant communication the whole time and we used to send little voice notes as well and she had these like earbuds that she could put on her tummy so that the baby could in theory hear through like stuff which is really sweet. Oh it's amazing. And so did you have to do the first few weeks in a hotel in America or? So we we have a place in America because Lance my husband is American and the

laws are much safer for surrogate and for us in the US so. Yeah it's a bit slow the UK with that kind of legislation isn't it? It's a bit more tricky. Yeah it's slightly trickier to do here. Everybody knows exactly where they stand which is important, which is important. Yes. the surrogate is always in control of everything which is very important. And it's. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It is the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. It's. It's is. It's is the to. It's is to. It's to, to, to, to, to, to, the the to, to, to, their, to, to, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the the the the the the to, the to, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tie, tie, the te, the te, te, te, te. te. te. telu. telu. te. tell, tell, tell, te, tell, te, te, te, the tate is always in control of everything which is very important and it's just it's also one of those things that you realize the importance of having everything out on the table and being able to have those open conversations and you know in the US as well in California it's again the UK laws is that the surrogate can use her eggs as well whereas in the US in California anyway you have to use an egg donor. So it's not the surrogate egg. So it's a very complicated, obviously, thing. Yeah. One of my best friends, his husband's Brazilian, and they were looking into surrogacy, and they were chatting about it, and it can be quite costly. And you know,

there's millions different ways to do things. And then they say, obviously, one of the parents to use the sperm or you can just sort of put it in and you don't know and it's sort of a bit of a lottery but my mate's like basically Irish the most pale skin of dark hair and then it's very much darker Brazilian husband. I was like it wouldn't be a surprise. Yeah, exactly. Welcome to the podcast Dame Jessica Ennis Hill. We're very excited to have you. Dame Jess, can I call you Dame Jess? You can call me Dame Jess, yeah. the first Dame. I've never seen Rob so nervous to talk to some. I'm talking to a member of the British Empire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's MBU.

Slash, Royal Family, you know. Royal Family, the Royal Family. We're very excited. We're very very, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, to to to to to to very very, we're very very, we're very very very very very very very very very very very, we're very very very very to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tothat what the today? Yeah, slash royal family, you know? Royal family, you know. So we're also very excited because you are a listener of the podcast as well, which always makes it more fun because you understand that it is. Yeah, yeah. I understand the dynamics. I understand the dynamics. So Jess, how many kids have you got and how old are they?

So I've got two kids. One is just turned six, so that's my daughter, Liv and then my son Reggie was nine in the summer. So yeah, kind of big kids now actually. I still think they're like little, you know, like little dinky things, but they've changed so much. I know yours a similar age, Rob. Yeah. When they get to get to to to to to the their their their their their they get to that age you just I don't know they mature so much. They get very independent don't they? Yeah I can't believe your son's not I know that sounds weird but I can't believe your son's nine because obviously because you had your son during your career yeah I can vividly remember you

having a chart well not vividly remember you having a child. It's a little bit worrying. Yeah no I vividly, and it doesn't feel like that long ago, but obviously nine. Yeah, I know it, like I had him, obviously had him in 2014, but yeah, I had him and then I came back to my career and yeah, it seems like five minutes ago, but actually it was, yeah, very long time ago now. We did want to talk about that. What was that like resuming being an athlete after you'd had a child? Do you know I was just so naive, like you have no idea what it's like to become a parent and although I was like so excited, you know you're kind of like all the unknowns and you think that you have this like plan in your head of how it's all gonna work out and I think being an athlete as well to to to to to the to the to to the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I thi. I was thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. It's thi. It's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi have this like plan in your head of how it's all going to like work out and I think being an athlete as well you're so structured in what you do and everything's organized everything's planned you've got deadlines like it's so structured that I almost

thought that when I had my son he was just going to like slot into that like routine and oh yeah oh yeah like you're a bit of a control freak like you just you just think that everything is going to be similar like like like like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. freak like you just you just think that everything is going to be similar but actually it was just it was the biggest shock you know becoming a parent for the first time but also then trying to get back into training trying to get back into competition trying to get everyone around me to buy into the idea that I was actually going to come back like I was still going to come back, like I was still going to. Did people not believe you? Yeah, I think quite a lot of people doubted what I was trying to do and definitely people like within my like team as well, they were like, you know, you sure you want to come back? You know, things are going to change quite a bit and I was like,then I'll just get back to normal. So when did you have your, was it 24, when in 2014?

So I had him July 2014. Right. So you weren't, so you, in 2012, you'd won the gold medal at London. So then, were you trying for the baby in between the middle of the Olympics then? Or was it just a happy accident or was it or was it a bit more relaxed or were you trying to slip it in almost scheduling the pregnancy? Yeah so it wasn't really like a scheduled and planned per se it was a little bit of a surprise planned shot if my like that. Yeah, very small on the plan. Yeah, it was a

because a lot of athletes do they plan it in and you know, in the right time so that they come back for the Olympics and stuff, but it wasn't necessarily like that for us and I remember like going to my coach, like obviously finding out I was pregnant, obviously really happy, we both were and then I had to go and tell like my that because he'd had all this plan like he was like right you're gonna do the come-off games in 2014 and then worlds Olympics like he had this plan and they're planning their their schedules around it as well because it's sort of a long-term thing yeah yeah their whole life is you know when you support an athlete their whole life is around you performing and I remember going to his house and just been like okay so I'm the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to the to to to the the to to the to the to the to to to to to to to to to to their their their to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I'm their the te. I was. I'm te. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm, okay, so I've got something to tell you I was so nervous. I was like, sit down. I was like, well, so I'm pregnant and he was just so shocked that he didn't know what to say.

He just kind of sat there and then he got his laptop out and he started looking at dates. He didn't even say congratulations. He was literally, he was just in such a fluster, like what dates, when's he going to be born? When's she going to be born? You know, like what's going to happen? And I was just sat there like, okay, congratulations, you know, anything like that would be nice. But yeah, it was a big, it was a big shock to the whole team, but obviously a great shock. How many months after did you do your first training session?

So I kind of like went back into training gradually, so I went on the bike for a bit, you know, I kind of got a setup in my garage where I could do like some exercises and stuff so I wasn't like traveling to and from the track all the time. And then I then I then I then I then I then I then I then I then I then I then I then I then I then I then I th th th th th th the the the th. I th. I the th. I th. I didn't th. I didn't th. I th. I didn't the the the. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I was th. I was the th. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was the the the the the the the the the the the th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was too. I'm too. I'm too. I'm too. I'm too. I'm too. I'm too. I'm too. I was. I was. I was. I was. like traveling to and from the track all the time. And then I didn't really start, I'd say probably like eight to ten weeks after I had him. I started doing, you know, gentle exercise, but I didn't start like hurdling or high jumping again at that stage or anything like that. But yeah, it was very much like a gradual buildup like back into training. And did you find your body had changed, you know, after, because I find women after they have children,

their body does sort of change shape and the hormones are different and things like that. Because as an athlete, everything's so fine-tuned down to what you're eating and how your body reacts. Did you find that there were certain things that? Or was it pretty much once you've got over the initial impact of the birth? It was the same, or was it different at? No, no, completely different. Really?

Yeah, completely different. I am, you know, everyone that has a baby a few months after you look, you're like, oh, like, why do I not look the way I used to look. And obviously I had like, I was totally ripped like I had a massive six pack. I don't mean to brag but I had a six pack and you know really kind of strong and then obviously your body changes so much and it's it's amazing how much your body like just transforms and you know you can carry your baby and it changes an incredible way but yeah when I got back to training I like I was definitely not the athlete that I was before.. th. th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I the the the the the the the the the the. I the the theeeee. I the theee. I to to training, I was definitely not the athlete that I was before. My body had changed, like mentally I changed massively. Like your priorities all change, you know.

Yeah, did it feel like it mattered less in a way? Yeah, I think you just have like a greater perspective. So I felt like whereas before I'd had Reggie, everything was like very much, it's about me, it's about how I train, it's about how I can be the best. And then once you have your baby, it's like, well, actually none of that really matters that much. And it's how do I be the best mom? And how can I do all those things really well? And it's about your child, isn't it? So you change like completely. And I think about transition from athlete to mother is huge.

Yeah, because it's not even just like the time where like, you know, obviously your partner can have the baby, and look after the baby, and even if you did less of it, your partner does more of it, there is a direct impact on the body as such, you know, and was you, did it, was you slower and then in your running and stuff like that, even when you was back to full fitness or was there anything in particular you noticed it that you couldn't do as well or was it just in general with your motivation?

No, I felt that obviously because it was after the Olympics so I'd had like this huge high, like the pinnacle of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th.. th. th. th. th. the th. th. thi. the the thi. the the th. the the th. I, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I, the th. I, th. I, th. th. the. I was, the. I was, te. I was, te. I was, te. I was, te. I was, te... te. te. te. I was, th. I was, the the the. I'd had like this huge high like the pinnacle of my career like winning a home Olympics and you know once I went back into training and after that I was like like what am I training for like this is hard and then I had my son I've already got a little winning in Rio how much does that matter? I mean one two one in London that's the one it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't matter I've got my gold I've got my gold I I I the gold I the gold I the gold I the gold I the gold the gold th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th go th th th got th got th got th got th got th got th got tho tho th got tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that I've tho that I've tho that I've tho that I've that I've th I've th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho to the tho to to tho to tho to tho tho to to the the the the the the the the tha that matter? One to one in London? That's the one. It doesn't matter. I've got my gold, I've got my gold mailbox now. That's the main thing. Exactly, exactly. But after having Reggie, like it gave me like a new sense of motivation.

But yeah, my body had changed so much. Like I couldn't run as fast as I used to. Like I was in training, I'd be at the like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like as I used to. Like I was in training, I'd be at the front of the pack, you know, beating my training buddies and just like I always had this like next gear that I could go to, I was really confident in that. Whereas after I'd had him, I was like, oh man, like I can't even get to the top of the hills and hill runs and yeah, just really struggling. And that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's just just just just just just just just just just just just just that's that's that's that's just that's just just th. th. th. thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus. thus thus thus thus, I thus, I tho thoes thoes thoes the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I that that the the the the the an too, too too, too tha thauoooooooooooooooooooes. And that's like quite a mental like impact as well when you're at the back of the group in training,

but you're Olympic champion and everyone's expecting you to beat them. It's tough, like it's mentally really, really challenging. And you're doing that along with all the stuff that you do when you've got a new kid as well. So your sleepless nights and was he a good sleeper? Do you know what looking back he I'd say he was like a typical like average babies like sleeping wise like he slept he was like up a lot of the beginning and I was like feeding food the night and stuff but he then got into a bit of a rhythm where he'd sleep for like four hours and that's like dream isn't it you know to have like four or five hours sleep. Like that is an abs that you're winning

there. My sister-in-law's got a newborn and I overheard Lou chatting to her mom about it and going yeah well last night she got two hours in a row and like oh brilliant and I'm like oh my god. That news. And I'm like, oh my God, that's being celebrated. I cannot even, I don't know how you do it. Like I can't take myself back to those days, like, you know, being up all through the night. And then I'd have to get up and train in the morning and then you're back at lunch and like it was just crazy. But I don't know, you just do it just do it just do it that you just do it that you that you that you that you that you that you that you would have that you would have the that you would have the the that you would have the the that you're the their their their their their their their their, you're that you're their. their, you're that you're that. that. that. to to to to be. to to to be. to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. the the that. the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. that. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's. that's. that's. that's. that it don't you when you're in the thick of it. I suppose as well you had you would have been at like the most you know

you were the poster girl really of the Olympics and you was all in all the advertising all your stuff with Adidas as well so not only have you won the gold you're in your sort of like opportunities are flying at you every brands and stuff like that and then you're at sort of the to. the the the the the the to the to to to to the to the to the the to the the to the to to the the the the the the the to the the to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the to to to to to the the to to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho. tho. tho. thooo. to. to. to. to. to. the most. the most. the the most. the most. the most. the most. the sort of home with the baby and then trying to juggle training and you sort of must be quite frustrating because you want to make the most of those opportunities. Did you did you find it quite conflicting? I found it challenging because it's still like for athletes like female athletes it's still like a massive gray area like having kids in your career and stepping away and then coming back like like with sponsors and everything it's still very there's not like a

maternity package it's not like this standard way so if you're not there performing then you're not you know your your deals stop and it's really dependent on on who like what companies you work with and I was super fortunate like obviously working with Adidas for years they were fantastic yeah they just freeze my contract and then you you know, just carry on picket away left off essentially. Whereas for a lot of athletes, you know, you step off the track for a period of time, like a season and you know, you lose a lot of money and a lot of, yeah, a lot of deals. Would that happen with an injury as well? Yeah, so being injured, yeah, there's's like you'd have like a bonus reduction and obviously you're not competing so you're not

brutal oh my gosh and it's so unfair just like like just genetically where like men won't have that with like they can have a family and their body won't be impacted at all but it's almost like coming back from a serious injuries and it been going through labor and having to be pregnant and giving birth it's mad having that in the middle of your career the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th of th of th of th. th. th. th. the th. to to th. their to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the th. the th. the the th. the th. the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. thrown. the thrown. the. having being pregnant and giving birth it's mad to having that in the middle of your career. Yeah and it's the whole like how do you go through your pregnancy and then like say how's your birth like you know you have no idea how that's gonna pan out and then it's like how do you recover from that how do you get back and yeah I mean there's so many challenges but equally like in the same way it's probably to the the the the the th. th. the the th. th. th. the the th. I I I I th. I the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the their their th. I's th. I's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their their their their their th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I'm th. I'm th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. the. the. the. the. their their their the same way, it's probably one of my like proudest achievements ever, you know, being able to have him and come back

and then win a world championships and then win a silver medal at the Olympics again was pretty special. Can I ask a dissentive question here, Jess? Do you think if you'd had your child three years later? You would have got gold in Brazil? Does that ever go cross your mind? Night Jess when you're wiping his bomb.

It's a very good question and do you know what in all honesty? Yeah. I at that stage I wouldn't have done it any other way like I had the best of both worlds. Did he come to Brazil? So he came, so like the whole team, the GB team goes out and does, thea, tha, tha, tha, te, te, te, te, te, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, like, like, like, like, like, to, to, like, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th.......... And, th.. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the the they, the they, the toe, the the toe, the toldld, toe, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. We. Wea. Wea, toe. Wea, to Brazil? So he came, so like the whole team, the GB team goes out and does like a training camp before the Olympics and I opted to go and do like a training camp just with my small team in Barcelona and my husband came out and Reggie came out so I was able to spend that time preparing with him and then I went on to Rio by myself so. But it's expensive because he would have been over to pay, to be, to be, to be, their, their, to be, their, their, to be, their, to be, their, to be, to be, their, to be, to be, their, to be, tho, to be, tho, tho, thi, to be, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to go, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to go, like, like, to go, like, like, to go, to go, like, like, to go, like, their, like, like, their, their, their, they.. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, they. So, to be to bea, to me me. So, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to to to to to go.a, to go.a, to because he would have been over two then you would have to pay for a seat to get him to Brazil.

You don't be doing that. Do you know what? The most stressful part of that was the journey that my husband had to take with him to Barcelona because he was like two and obviously like two year olds on flights are not fun. And I remember just meeting my husband at the airport like so excited to see them and he was just like sweating. He was sweating. He looked so stressed and Reggie had like the reddest face and I was like what happened? I'll tell you what happened. He didn't want to let go of his

bunny on the flight. He wanted to shut the windows and obviously you can't, like yeah, yeah, the kind of slide of things. And he just totally he to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the told the told the their told their told their to be just their their their their their their. Hea. Hea. Hea. He's just just just their their their their their their sweating. Hea. He's their their their. Hea. Hea. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He's the the the the the the the the the th. He was just th. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. I tot. S. S. I tot. S. S. I tell. S. S. S. I was just just just just. S. S. I was just just. S. S. S. He was. He was t. Sthe windows and obviously you can't, not like, yeah, the kind of slide of things and he just totally lost his shit. And he, and he was like, my husband was like, it was the most stressful thing he's ever done. Even to this day he's like, that Barcelona flight. Yeah. Yeah. When you're at the Olympics, was their part of you going, I'm getting a lovely sleep here. This is a real, this, I mean it's mainly stressful being at the Olympics, but I'll be honest, it's the most chilled out I've been in three years. Well, to be honest, like my husband's always like, you know that holiday you had in Rio? Are you joking me? It's like it's a most stressful environment ever. But yeah, I mean, yeah, I had a full night sleep, so it was a little, a little bit of a holiday.

You've got, you can't be getting up with a kid the night before you're competing the Olympics. No. Oh my gosh, no. I mean you need ball sleep, yeah, for two days of competition you need, you need your rest. And if, if you aren't, you know happily married, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happily, you're happily, you're happily, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you're happy, you aren't you know happily married with kids Josh wanted to know this is the Olympic Village the complete fuckfest we all imagine it is? Is it like the Love Island after party? Well look all our sakes through the last leg we've done a lot of work at the Paralympics and there's a lot of chat that is basically fresh as week at the in the in the Paralympic village. I I mean. I have got the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I is is they. I'll is they. I'll is they. I'll is. I'll is. I'll is. I'll is. I'll is. I'll is. I'll is. I'm the the the the the the the the the in the in the Olympic village. I wouldn't know essentially obviously. I've got goals you wouldn't dame Jessica. Obviously. But yeah I mean there's a lot that goes on in the village. There's a lot that goes on and there's just so many different like types of people and athletes and you know when you're

training so hard like all the time and you can never let yourself like go or switch off and then you put everyone into that environment together and then I'm sure you know like you know the swimmers finished quite early on in the schedule so they're all like really excited and then athletics finishes a little bit later so there is like this whole sexual like vibe going on like everyone's just so like buzzing because they've won or they're sad also everyone's fit yeah exactly everyone's fit new athletic and everyone's yeah either like buzzing like you say because they've done so well or they've like you know to be fucked up and yeah and then want to celebrate so yeah

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