Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S01 EP4: Jonathan Ross

Episode Date: May 8, 2020

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better about my increasingly terrible parenting skills, each episode will be chatting to a famous parent about how well they're coping. Or hopefully not. And we will be hearing from you the listener with your tales of lockdown parenting woe. Because let's be honest, none of us know what we're doing. Hello and welcome to lockdown parenting hell. I'm Josh Whitakam with me. Rob Beckett. Hello. Hello. Life been good? Yeah it was fine until I decided to take a two-year-old and a four-year-old out for a scooter ride. The two-year-old is an animal and it's like Tony Oa, she flies down the road. I took my daughter out and we bought her a scooter and I took her out and

she just kept bearing to the left. She just couldn't be, she just keep going left. It's very difficult to say, she was like, it's not working, and you're like, no, you keep going left, mate. But she obviously doesn't understand the concept of left. No. So in the end, she just lost it with the scooter, and I thought, well, that's going to be six months, and we'll try that again. I've found in my see their sibling do it. Right. So there's someone doing it, they could copy where my eldest took ages to learn

to do scooter and you're sort of like, they're going, I'm doing it, I'm doing it, I'm doing it. You're like, yeah, I'm pulling you over to the right again, but yeah, she kept on the time out step, to go, the the tho's tho's tho's the the tho's the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their care about threats of time out step or anything, you'll go like, do you want to go in the time out step? You go, yep, you know, I would love to go on the time out step, Rob. I mean, I've not, until that, I'd never heard that phrase before, but if it's how it sounds, sitting on a step, having some time out, absolutely count me in, mate. a buggy for a bit. This is the thing, so we got the old bassinet when you get a baby

and then she wouldn't go in it for a bit, right? And you're like, are you thick? This is the best way you are ever going to travel? Yeah. If someone said to me, I'm going to the shops, do you want to to come? I'm going to push you in a bed on wheels. Fucking sign me! I mean. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like. th. th. th. th. thin. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Are. th. th. Are. Are. th. Are. th. th. Are. th. th. Are. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. the first two years of your life. Do you know how I would never want to travel, Rob? Strapped to the front of someone. That is the worst way to break me. Yeah. Anything, anything coming the parents' way that kids get in it first. Yeah, in the face. If I ordered an Uber and he turned out with a strap on his front, I wouldn't get on. So, we've had lots of good correspondence. Should we get straight into it? Yes.

It's the lockdown parent in mail bag. But it's actually emails and there's no bag. Alex Brownsword. Hi guys, really enjoying the podcast. It's provided me with great joy. I'm not the only parent out there swinging wildly between moments of perfect life harmony and existential crisis within the same hour. A bit of a humble brag about his perfect life harmony., the the the the the mail, the the mail, the mail, the mail, the the the mail, the the mail, the th, the mail, the mail, the the thainain, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's thain, it's thain, it's thi, it, it's the, it's thine thine thine thine thine thi, it's, it's, it's thi, it's the mail, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thi thi thi, it's thi, it's thi-in, thi-in, thi-in thi-in thin, the the thea' thea' thea' thea' thea' thea' thatea' thin, thea' thea' thea' tha' tha' the parent out there swinging wildly between moments of perfect life harmony and existential crisis within the same hour. A bit of a humble brag about his perfect life harmony but we'll carry on. We have a one-year-old and a three-year-old and a three-year-old and a three-year-old

and a three-year-old and a three-year-old and a very difficult age difference. The one- at home, is at a base level of fairly bored. I have found entertaining my three-year-old without resorting to TV all the time very hard. It has come to this. I am going and sitting in the car, as that is now an established activity with him. Yes. He sits in the driver's seat,

tuns everything on, the the boot, etc. I can get an hour out of this on a good day. Yes! Oh, those hours matter. Those that... Oh, do you see that breaking it down into time? Yes. Like, I don't know, have you read the book or seen the film of About a Boy, right? And Hugh Grant characters, very, very rich. And so he's got nothing to do with his day and he thion how he breaks his day down into half hour segments of things he can do.

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Chalk and then out the front on the pavement of your house. Just, and then like it's hard if you've got a busy road but just find a bit of pavement somewhere. Even if you take it for a walk to find out, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, I, I, and I, I, I, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll they, I'll they, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I I'll, I I'll, I I I'll, I I I I, I, I I, I, I, I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and I, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and they..... And, and they. And, and tot's tell you tell you're tell you're tell you're tell you're tell you're tell you're tell you're tell you're tell you're tell you're tell you're a good. naughty, the bit of chalk washes off. Are you leaving it there? Well the stuff outside my house, I was going to say, yeah, the stuff outside my house I am, but the stuff further away are washing off. I'm not leaving it. I'm leaving it. I'm leaving it. Okay, you broke me down, I'm leaving it, Josh. All right? He didn't really stand up much under questioning. I'm not going to to to to to the to to the to the to the to the the to the the the to the the the the the the the to say the the the the stuff the the stuff. I the stuff. I the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff the stuff the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff the stuff the stuff the stuff the stuff the stuff the stuff the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff. I the stuff. I the stuff. I the stuff. I the stuff. I the stuff. I the stuff. I the stuff. I the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm not going th. I'm not th. I'm thooooooooooooo. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thooooooooooooooooooo. I'm the stuff. I'm the stuff. I'm the other day we go for this walk-through his sort of like country would be and the counts had been there and trimmed it back a bit and I was just like oh look at this like because everything's so the same every day and I don't know what I'm not gonna cope when proper sport comes back if

Tyson Fury flights Anthony Joshua I thinking about it now I'm bubbling right I the earlier I was buzzing because loose swimming was back on. I don't even watch it. And I'm going Lou, it's back on and they're in the studio. It's not on Zoom. They're in a studio. They're back in the studio. They're back in a studio. Blighty. They're key workers. They're key workers. Yeah loose women make the world go around mate. So I've the council done a good job on the loose women? That's key workers. Yeah, loose women make the world go round, mate. So the council done a good job on the cutting it back. Really good actually, surprisingly. So I do think sometimes, you know, a council does a good job when they're not mentioned. It's a referee. Alex Browns would add the lowest point in terms of activity was when my

three-year-old and I spent half an hour rolling tin cans down the driveway. I think that sounds quite fun. If you're a Victorian. I always I always find that quite galling when you buy a toy and it's not interesting. And then so the one we've got into now is every morning she will take all of the fridge magnets off the fridge and put them in a bag and then every evening I have to put them back on. And then she'll take them off and you're like like this this this this this this this this this th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. I the. I the. I thi thee. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. put them in a bag. And then every evening I have to put them back on. And then she'll take them off. And you're like, this isn't fun. How are you finding this fun? Well just don't put them back on? Well no, she asks me to. Oh, okay. I'm not falling into that track. So she'll ask me to and then in the morning she has to take all of them off. But the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. tho. the. thi. tho. tho. How are just tho. How are just tho. How are just, how tho. How tho. How th. How thi. How th. How th. How th. How th. How, how. How, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how th. th. the, how the, how the, how thrown. throwne. How are throwne. How are throwne. How are throwne. How are throwne. How are throwne, how are throwne, how are you finding this fun? It doesn't make any sense to me. Water in the garden's a good one, that keeps them busy. Yeah, I did water in the garden. The little sort of gun attachment you could put in the hose if you've got a garden, that's a goodin. But she's got into the water in car now and she's drowned a couple of the flowers. That's fucking life come to? What are we talking about? I used to have an edge.

You never had an edge. Did you have an edge? No, I never had an edge. I used to drink a beer. That was you. Josh's a bit of a live wine, but it's a drink, but now we're talking about water in a plant. I had three beers, not even plait. I can't do this anymore. I had three cans of beer and seven and a half hours sleep and I was like I just can't do this anymore.

Oh, Josh, what is wrong with me? Imagine just going to a pub beer garden and drinking five pints and watching the euros. I can't, I genuinely, the thought of something like that, do you know what I miss most from parenting is an impromptu night out? Yes. Like every night out has to be so heavily planned. I've never once in the last 18 months, two years thought, well we'll just have one beer and then it's, nothing has snowballed in my life since I've had a child. Everything's so structured.

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No, I haven't. Well, we still are doing the thing where she now, she's getting used to the sitting on it. So, before the bath. Our one, now two-year-old, she now wees in the potty all the time, that's fine, has a knuck on a night, however, poohs, as if it's still a nappy, straight into the knickers. So I'm basically, we's okay, but now I'm just handling nuggets every two to three hours into a to toilet. But don't you find, I can't believe how desensitized I am to shit. Oh! I just don't have to chuckle it happily. When you just wash it, just, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I want what, I want what, I want what, I want what, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I want, I just don't care. I'd chuckle it happily. I wouldn't chuckle it a bit, wouldn't even just wash it.

Just, I want to say, if you even shit you had, just wash it off, get on me a day. That was my greatest fear before being apparent. I was like, I just don't think I'm going to be able to deal with this shit thing. And now, it's so low on my priority list of things I worry about. If anything, I see changing the chity nappy as a good way of like killing time. You're like, oh that would be over five minutes, great. Oh, we did keep yuppies in it and vollying it into top bins in the garden. I'd happily use it as a paperweight.

I wouldn't think twice about it. Put it next to a candle you tha tha you? Exactly, it's not, it's simply not a problem. Yeah, but years ago, the thought of a human poo near me would, I'd be sick on instantly. It's amazing what people, and I include myself in this, the things you think are going to be the big issues of parenting. Yeah. Did you read any books before you had a child? Come on mate. What do you think? And I don't even mean about parenting, I just mean generally, Rob. Lou does the reading, I'll do morale. That's how it works in our house. But I read this book, right?

And it was like, someone had recommended it to me. And they were like, if you read this and you do all these things, then you're within 12 weeks your child will be sleeping 12 hours a night. And I was like, oh great, I'll just read that book. And then it comes, you got the child, you're like, in my head it was like someone had given me like the manual and then it's like, oh no wait a minute, this is a human being. Yeah. And I'm there and I'm rubbing the bit between their eyes as if that's just just just just just just just just just just just just just that's just just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just that's just thi. thi. thi. thi. thi's thi. their their to to to to their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. I thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's thi. I's th thi. I's thi. I's thi. I've th sleep like a crocodile Dundee taming that cow thing. And it's just like, I've never felt so kind of impotent in my life. The things you think you can achieve before you have a child. Well that's why, Lou read all the books, I read none, so I thought they were a happy medium there. They are, those books that tell you how to put a child, put to put to put to put to put to put to put to put their to put their to put to put their to put to put to put their to put to put their to put to put their to put their to put their to put their thatheir thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm thi, I's, I's, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I thi, I I I I I I I thi, I I I thi, I I thi, I thi, I thi, I their, I's thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi.. I'm never that. I'm that. I'm never that. I'm never that. I'm never that. I'm neverotal waste of part. They're all different. I tell what, the only book I did read was about the labor, right?

So I've got to beat hands on here because Lou's doing it, but I've read it up until the point where the baby come out. I tell you what, the placenta was a shock. I did not know what that really was or that it was going to happen. I I I I I I I I I I to happen. I I I to happen. I to happen. I to happen. I to happen. I to happen. I to happen. I to happen. I to happen. I to happen. I to happen. I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that it was going that it was going that that that that that that that that that that that that it was going that it was going that it was going that it was going that it was going that it was going that it was going that it was going that it was going that it was going that it was going that it was going that I was going that I was. I that I that I that I that I that I that I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that the was going. I was going that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thatthat one up or what? What's that they did? Oh my God. I'm going to say it, right? Not the best day of my life. Ah, mate, I'm with you.

Not the best day of my life. One of the worst, I'd say. Yeah, anyone that says that is corridor, right, of the hospital. I panicked, took my joggy bottoms off and gave them to her. I was good there in my pants. What was the best day of your life? Oh, it was probably seeing the person I love the most in real, real pain. That's just not the best day of your life.

No, it's a necessary evil to have a kid. But let's not put pressure on people to pretend that if you don't find it magical, that you're some kind of dead inside idiot. Magical? I barely found it tolerable. It was awful. It was awful. Yeah, one of the worst days of my life.

Yeah. one of the worst days of my life. Yeah, top five. Top five. Top five. Top five. And I'll shoot myself on the tube once and that's not even be top five. Right, should we get on our guess? Yes. This week, I'm so excited this week, Josh. He's an absolute legend of TV and one of, you know, a household name of Jonathan Ross, I love him. He's at home home with his wife, and he's got a lot of their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their time their time time time time time time time time time to be to be to be to be to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be tom. tom. tombe. tombs. tom. tom. tip. tip. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. tip. tip. tip. think they were 22 23 and 29 and they all live in their own flat so he's got a lot of time to himself so this was a great episode for a bit of a nostalgia advice when you say Josh it really does make me feel like at least there's light at the end of the tunnel. Yes it may be 40 years time but there will be that light. Hello, Jonathan Ross, how are you? I'm good Josh, how are you? I'm good, thank you, yeah, I'm fine.

I'm surprised to hear that, because you're the sort of person I would characterize as being someone who would catastrophes things, and as we are in the middle, it would genuinely be considered a catastrophe. I would have thought you'd be having a massive meltdown. I've reached a point of calm actually because all the things I've been worried about for 37 years of my life have finally come true. So I'm finally in my element. It's that the OCD dream, isn't it? These people just loving it. Come and there must have been some things you worried about that haven't happened.

But you've had it, Josh? I have had it. You're pathetic. The number of people who have ted to the head, and they clearly haven't, you ridiculous, self-regarding narcissistic, hypochondriac, Hobbit. And I mean that in the nicest possible way. I get the feeling you haven't spoken to anyone for a couple of days, Jonathan, you sort of really unleashing on him. I feel liberated. Society's broken down. I can't. I, you. I, you. I have, you. I have have. I have have have have. I have have have have have. I have have. I have have. I have have. I have have have. I have have have have. I have have. I have have. I have the the the the th. You have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have the thi. You have, you have, you have, you have, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you. You have the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. You. You. You. You, you. You, you. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you have thi. You have thi. You have thi. You have thi. I have thi. I have thi. I have thi. I have tapi. tapiole. tapiole. tapiole. tapiole. You have thiole. You have you sort of really unleashing on him. I feel liberated. Society has broken down, I can be my true self. Yeah, how are you feeling about the pandemic? You're all right? What's what's your set up at a moment? There is two responses. On the personal level,

I'm fine. I do have moments of sadness and melancholy, mainly not remotely worried about myself, but worried about my kids. And also that people, friends of mine, their kids, not just their health currently, but just what the future is going to be like for them. You know, because you think, okay, there's going to be huge financial implication going forward, there's going to be educational implications with all the kids who are doing the exams at the moment who aren't able to sit able able able able able able able going to be a weird blip. And like, you know, whether or not we are now wise up to the fact that we're gonna, there will be, I hate to break this to you Josh,

but there will be more pandemics like this. Yeah, you know, unless we totally changed. We interact with other countries and the way we socially interact with. So you think think anything major would ever happen and everything would roll over and everything would either be the same or get slightly better. Now I think there's a degree of uncertainty and anxiety

which I suspect will never go away. So on that level and on the level that there are people out there really suffering and people doing really hard jobs under the worst possible. under the worst possible conditions and people dying, then I'm as miserable as everyone else. On a personal level, I'm having a lovely time. I'm not working and I don't have to work. You can't, we can't really work. I know you're about to do your TV show from home, Josh, but you know, it's like we're not working and you don't feel bad about we're not working because you can't and no one else is working. Yes. And you go out for a walk, my dogs have never had so many walks.

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I planted some flowers for the bees the other day, feed the fish, checking on my wife's daddy, self-isolating down the end, we've got a separate area he lives. I've trimmed his hair yesterday with some clippers I bought from Amazon. It was quite an odd intimate moment. I'd be honest, having an elderly man sort of sitting in between your knees on the steps while you shave and he said, and seeing as he's Jewish, I tried to get away with leaving those two curly bits on the side. But he wasn't having any of it. Oh, you're living the dream. But this is what my life was like, you know, before, really, apart from the odd intrusion

of having to go to a studio. And are you in touch with your kids a lot? And are you doing all that Zoom and all that kind of stuff, family Zoom, Family Zoom, Family Zoom quizzes? Sadly, yes. I mean, we haven't found that the sat up with some young friends of hers and we were tragically out of step anyway because it was all stuff about on on Ariana Grande's second album were ah for fuck I take really? Which one of the Cardinacians? Don't we know? How do we know this? We got a very very, very... But when you interview them

Jonathan you sound so interested in their albums? Josh? Yes. I'm going to treat that with the contempt of the fellow professional I expect you to tell you sitting on the couch sinferring up to some of the worst people in the world. And I had a good manner not to mention the people. I apologize. So I would expect you to reciprocate the courtesy. Thank you. I mean I imagine you guys are missing terrifically doing live work as well because I know that I know you in the middle of your tour Rob so that must have been a really kind of like you

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And I think she's, in a way, I think this is nice because it's given her the chance not to have to answer questions about, well, are you going to finish your, she's, she got a, she got a BSC in biology, then she got the PhD and then she was studying from the master's or the other way around. And it's like, she put it on hold for a year, so she's have a year off and she was working, and I think it's way for her it's been a breathing space. And my son is working so it hasn't really effective. My youngest daughter, I think she's finding it very hard because also she's single. So to be single and young when you'd be out there and tingling and meeting people and having fun and feeling like your life is all happening.

For that to be put on hold, that is pretty tough I think. So I think she's the one one's the one's. The other two are with their partners, you see. And she's hold up with her flatmates, so at least they got company. But it's still kind of, I think, difficult knowing that the world is out there and you're keen to be part of it. See, I don't want to be out. See, I don't want to go to restaurants, I don't want to go to clubs. I mean, I like quite like going to the cinema, but I'm just as happy watching it at home. You know, so I'm not missing anything, whereas you can see they are missing that, the, the, sort of like the tact of your life that they want to throw them

into which just isn't there for them anymore. to tho the the to just to just to just to their to to to their to thoomfere. to to be. thoomfew. to be. to be. thoomfew. to be. to be. to be. to be. you think that's a fair assumption on the parenting thing? Does it ever get easier or does it just get difficult in different ways? You know what? When people say that, it's really bullshit. To be honest, you're worried about it, yes. You should tell her that for me. I will. Of course you never stop worrying about them, but it's nothing like the worry when they're little, you're worried about everything. You worried when they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're when they're worried they're worried when they're worried when they're worried when they're little they're little when they're little little when they're little little when they're little about, have they eaten enough? What's that rash? Did they bump their head? Where are they? If they put their feet in the plug,

why isn't he speaking properly? Why is she playing with that weird toy all the time? Has she got a problem? You know, you took about me and with autism and we did she was very late to talk and she was fixed on certain things and she was very strange around people and we took her to be assessed and but not for that because this was early 90s when that wasn't really talked about as much and now we found the medical report and clearly we showed it someone they said yes now she would be absolutely diagnosed as autistic but back then she was so we were dealing with those worries when they they were they were now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now I I they they they're they're they're th I they're they're they're they're they're they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th all those worries and you have those worries when they're little. Now I don't give a shit what she's up to. I mean she's not my problem anymore.

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looking at older people and feeling protective of them and seeing him as a wonderful thing. I think that one of the there'll be a lot of good things. We're finally perhaps the government, even the white wing government that we've got in at the moment, will respect and look after our health workers. Maybe, you know, maybe we'll all be a little bit less grumpy when an Amazon delivery guy turns up in the morning. Why we're going out. For fuck fake mate you haven't got all the past we just like. Thank you for thanks. Thank you for getting in your van. Yeah. I. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the health the health the health the health the health the health the health the health the health the health the health their their their their their their their their their their their their health workers. their their health workers. their their their health workers. their their their their the. to to to to to to their the connected and a great degree of kind of like kinship and connectedness with those around us. Brilliant. Yeah.

Thanks, Jonathan. Lovely's picnic to look after your kids. Jonathan Ross. Oh, amazing. I love him. I love him. I love him. Yeah, I absolutely.

It was a hero of mine. the fact that I've been a bit schmaltzy, but the fact that I've been on his show and we get to have the opportunity to talk to him. It's such a, for me, such a buzz, I don't know about you, John. Yeah, no, I love it. When I was downstairs and I was like, sorry, I've just got to go upstairs to my office to interview Jonathan Ross and you're like, how the fucks, it's bad, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, to, to, to, to, to, to, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, I, I, to, to, to, I's, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I................ I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, to, to, to, to, to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. th have never happened in normal circumstances. Never! Do you know what's quite for me and it's quite liberating was hearing him talk about the pressure of having young kids and providing it most liberating being told that when they grow up it's not as much stress as so I've only got 16 years left till the stress is gone. Honestly I'm not even 16 I say you got 14 years left whenthey get to 16, they get a part-time job and as far as I'm concerned, they're halfway out the house. Get on with your life, strap a pair on and believe in yourself. I'm here if you need me, but otherwise see you later.

And I think good parent is getting to the point's the main thing. That's the main thing. Keep your eyes on that. 2032, that's your deadline, Rob. It was quite inspired at the end, I thought, Jonathan, the way I was talking about, you know, people's approach to the world after having stuff taken away from them in lockdown. I found that quite motivating. I think, I, I, I, I think whether people will live differently. I mean, I say that, within 24 hours I'll be in the pub. Do you know what?

Yeah, but that's fine as well, but I think sometimes you could, it used to be like sad to stay in or, oh, you're not going to see your mates or stuff like that, whether you want to or not. And especially for like introverts. I think I'm a semi-like Jonathan in a way where big loud confident people but I actually quite like being on my own a lot of the time and being left alone and I think hopefully this this lockdown make people appreciate that when stuff's taken away from you you don't actually need it if you can become comfortable with

yourself it's like just a distraction away from your worries and your anxieties and holidays and weddings and weddings and McDonald's drive thin and all those little things. The big th is th is ths are ths are ths are ths are ths. ths. ths. ths. ths. I ths. I ths. I ths. I ths. I ths. I ths. I thi thi thi tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. I tho-s. tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-I tho-a tho-a tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho-s and tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s tho-s tho-s tho-s tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s. tho-s tho-s tho-s tho-s tho- drive-throat and all those little things. The big three. Weddings holidays and McDonald's drive-thrues. They are in my world. I've got rid of bingo. I've moved up a level. And also that was quite sweet as well like, Matt, when he said if you had them for the day and how much he'd love that.

And I really feel, I felt like his voice light up when he was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I felt like his voice light up when he was thinking about having his kids for the day and he just sort of went on this things we'll do, and he just listed all the things he did with his kids like, Marshmallow goes to, let's find butterflies and all those sort of things and it just sort of, it does, I know it's a bit like, it's a funny. It's far away from what I've been did he, back in the 90s? You had bike and grove if you was lucky. Thank you to Jonathan for doing the show. Thank you to everyone for listening. Yes. If you want to get in toucest about anything, this is how.

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