Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S6 EP6: David Gandy

Episode Date: January 27, 2023

 Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant male super model and businessman - David Gandy. Shop David's Wellwear line here; https://www.davidgand...ywellwear.com Thanks, Rob + Josh. We're going on tour!! Fancy seeing the podcast live in some of the best venues in the UK? Of course you do, you're not made of stone! Tickets available now on the dates and at the venues below. We can't wait to see you there... ON SALE NOW  14th April 2023 - Manchester AO Arena 19th April 2023 - Nottingham 20th April 2023 - Cardiff  21st April 2023 - London (The O2) 23rd April 2023 - London (Wembley) 28th April 2023 - Birmingham Utilita Arena  If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.uk TWITTER: @parenting_hell INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting, each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're they're tha th hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing.
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Starting point is 00:01:57 I'm going to play. He sounded like he's at a joint. This is Max, my two-year-old son. We recorded this and now he won't stop saying Josh Whitakam. Apparently it's fun to say too bloody right. Sounds like Channel 4 Commissioner. It doesn't these days. Love the podcast, thanks for making the rest of us feel normal.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Love Lauren from Portsm. How'd we get rid of Josh Widdickham from last leg. He's not disabled. How will we let this slip through the neck? That was a good one though. I like that kid. I liked his energy. Yes. How are you, Rob? All good. Yep. I'm done. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired of cold. I'm so tired of cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. It's cold. So. It's cold. So. It's cold. So. So. It's cold. So. It's cold. It's cold everywhere. I'm the sweat with it. I'll get lots of slip. Oh no, Rob. What? I've started having a piss in the night. You know what, when I said I don't have pisses in the night? Yeah. I've started going for a piss in the night and I can't get out of it. Do you drink before bed or... Yeah, I've been drinking next to your bed? Because I'm on diet. Right. I had a really bad week when Lou was away. I had a fry up.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Oh, you know I got my new, I know I've got an office that I'm going to do this from eventually when I, when it all goes through. I've got this office, right? I need to set up the cameras and stuff with Michael. Put that on the to-do list, Michael. Anyway, I went there when the boiler, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, when, when, I was, I'm the the the the the the tho, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was a th.. th. th. tho, I'm tho, tho, tho, tho. th th th tho. tho. tho. th tho. th tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. something that to put something on it. Oh God I'm boring myself. Fucking hell liven up Rob. Anyway, it was really cold. I was waiting in a cold empty office while they were fixing something.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I thought, Joe, I'll go for the calf that be done in an hour. I'm supposed to be on my Gary Barlow get ripped. Had a fry up because it was minus five. And I was like, that's okay, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th, I was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was th. It was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, was thi, I think that's allowed and a da- Gary Barlow is not having a fry-up for any temperature. Surely Barlow's knocking back a fry-up when it's minus five. No, okay. He can't be on yogurt, not that cold. No, anyway, I went for a fry-up, right? And I'm going to send you this fry-up, and it's the calf nearest my office. Yeah, okay, which is dangerous. You almost want it to be bad. Right, but actually it's a good calf. I'd say it's in between calf and cafe, but this fry up, I add it, mate.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Oh my word, what the best fry up I ever eaten. Fuck here now. I've never seen it as well. Is that more bacon? No, it's a homemade hash brown. . . That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I I I I I I I's, I's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. that's that's that's that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the they. the the the the they. the they. they. they. the the they. they. they. they. th. th. th. that's th. I's. that's. th. th. the th. th. Oh my word. And it's bacon well done, sausage. So I'm going to tell you something that.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Gary Barlow's never eating that, mate. They're poached eggs though, Josh. Yeah. Rob, that's not Gary Barlow's breakfast. Anyway, I was supposed to be getting ripped. You know I had that week when I went reallyos and all that and then Ken Bruce left radio too. I'm not saying it's my fault but I'm not saying it helped. Anyway that, so then I was flying and then I started my week when it was cold, I've had a fry up, I had Peachter Express and then I finished a week on fish and chips from the Chippy. Oh Rob. That's not a Barlow. Anyway, new week, new me, I'm back on it,
Starting point is 00:05:05 lose back, I'm not working as much. There's another parent here to help me. I'm back on the veg grind. Great, okay? So I'm on day eight of my diet. I saw you eating cottage cheese with thin. I look sad. But I'm drinking too much water and it's making me piss at night.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah. You know I've got, you know I do the brown noise or is it a dark one? I'm not looking wrong. I try and keep my eyes closed while I'm doing it. Are you in brown noise? Yeah, and it gives you a time of how long you've slept for. Because obviously you can see how far you got through the brown noise playlist. Oh yes, what are you looking at?
Starting point is 00:05:47 I did eight hours and a quarter last night. What before the pierce? No, no, no, I don't check it when I get out for the pierce but I leave the brown noise running. So eight hours, yeah. . What am I tired? What's the ti. What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I'm? I'm? I'm? I'm? I'm? I'm? I'm? I'm? I'm? I'm? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I was? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. tah. tah. tah. tah. tah. tod. toda? toda? today? today? today? I? to bed early Rob. He's such a little nerd. I'm not a nerd. You're little full pajamas book on quarter past day. I'm not wearing pajamas, Rob. A pair of loose boxer shorts.
Starting point is 00:06:10 What time did we go to bed last night? What did we watch? What did we watch? It's Rose in there while you're doing the podcast? What do you mean go to bed? No, no, I was saying it to myself. I was saying it. I thought she's in the room and making sure you're not to watch the podcast. She's a big fan of the show.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I said, you should see it unedited, it's really good. Just watch it a couple of days. She can't hear you. It's quite last night? We watched that Chuck D Hip Hop documentary. Don't try and make yourself sound cool. So we were pretty cool. Yeah, I watched a little bit of a hip hop doc. You did watch that Chuck D hip hop documentary. Yeah. And then we went to bed at about 945. 945. It's pathetic. It's pathetic. It was a... So what time do you get into bed? Well Rose went straight to sleep to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the to the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the tre hip tre hip the tre hip hip hip hip hip hip hip hip hip hip hip hip hop hop hip hop hip hop hip hop hip hop hip hop hip hop hip hop hip hop hip hop hip hop hip hop hip hip hip hip hip the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. Do. Doop ho. Doe hip hop hop hop hop hop hop hop hop hop hop. Doop ho. Doop, tr. tr. tru. tru. true. true. true. true. true. Do. pathetic. It's pathetic isn't it? So what time do you get into bed? Well Rose went straight to sleep Rob because she was still drunk from being a Clarydish. I couldn't even say. What from there?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Wow. So she was asleep bang on 9.45? No, well it takes a heart of an hour to get upstairs. Yeah, 10 p. I wouldn't say that's too. I think if you've got a kid that, what times your son getting up? Uh, 645, 7? Yeah, I mean, yeah, look, if you want to have a good day and be able to do your life, you need to be going to bed by 10 p.m. If you've got a kid waking up at 6. I can't remember what it's like to, and I've been waiting for it to come on. It's so pathetic. I remember breaking up going, why the fuck? Why, I used to go, why are they putting much of a day on so early? No one's up at that time when I was like 22. Now I'm waiting for it to come on. I'm the ghost Shane. All the girl. the gh. the gh. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm. th. th. th. th. th. I'm. th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I'm. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the. th th th th th th to. the. th the. I'm the. I'm th th th th th th th th th th -shen. All right then, girls, you can watch frozen one, frozen two, and after three hours, when that's finished, I'll be watching much of the day at 9.30 a.m. Okay? What has become of our lives? But eight hours is good, that's good sleep, mate. That's good. I got a bed before Lou now. Do you? I'm really needing a lot of sleep. I feel like... the thi. the th. I'm really. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thirty. I'm really the thirty. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the day. I'll the the the the the day. I'm the day. I'm the day. I'm the day. I'm the day. I'm the day. I'm the day. I'm the day. I'm the day. I'm the the the the the the the the the thirty. I'm. I's. I'm thirty. I'm thirty. I'm thirty. I'm thirty. I'm thirty. I'm thirty. I'm th. I'm th. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'll. I'm th. I'll. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th.'t go to bed together is and like, I can't go to bed first.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I can go to bed second, I can't go to bed first. Now, I've only just started doing it, but I actually feel a bit smug? Do you? I'm going to bed now, where you just sit there and let tell you rot your brain? I'm going to go watch TikTok. Yeah, I literally layTop for an hour and I just thought to self you're disgusted. I had my book on my lap as if I was going to read it. No. Just watch people falling over in the ice.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Oh, should we get our guest on in two and a half minutes? We both said we had nothing to say at the start this podcast. We've really strung it out close to... I'd argue we haven't. Do you th argue we? Does it make it content? Oh, come on, you know how podcasting works. Let's get through to the end of this without content. All right. Shall I play you Prince Harry singing your song?
Starting point is 00:09:13 Um, easy. I honestly, mate. I'm going to say it now. Yeah. I gave up on spare. I didn't enjoy it. Oh, just too much. . Oh, just too much? Just fucking how we get it. You're in the army.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Fuck it. If I wanted Bravo 20, I'd have fucking bought it, mate. Five contective chapters on flying an Apache helicopter. I couldn't give a shit. Tell me some things about Prince Charles. Five chapters on the patch. This is like when Lou tried to make me read John Steinbeck. Oh my god, that bloke loves to describe a field. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Fuck me. This is Prince Harry. I hope you don't mind. I hope you don't mind that I put down in words. How wonderful life is while you're in the world he's saying it was a twinkle and a smile what he's not but that was worse than just reading it I know just read it I know it sure it's defense though the audio book is horrible to do yeah I know
Starting point is 00:10:21 but on your own he's he's had to read out five chapters on a patch he's probably thinking I've over done it on a patch. I've doubled down. I've sequented down on a patch. That is stuff I feel so yeah I would have just read that out. That's by producing I think. It's a little bit funny if I put down in words. He doesn't believe he doesn't believe that he should be singing this it's a little bit funny I hope you don't mind I hope you don't mind that I put down it words the Apache helicopter one of modern technologies marvels we've done it all right we've got got. We've got to our guest. We've got to our guest. We've got, we have William and Kate Windsor. Right, should we do our guest? Who we got this week? Right. Is he the best looking man you've ever met? Well, unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:11:19 I'll never be able to meet me. So yes. Our guests this week, David Gandhi. What a sort. David Gandhi, welcome to the podcast. I'm very excited to have you on. Can I just call you Gandhi? Did we call you Gandhi when me and Rommish met you? Do you like Gandhi? I've been Gandy since I was about five. I don't know, think at the end of school people came up to me I was 18. What is your first name? I was like David? I the the th. David I th. David I th. David I th. David I th. David I th. David I th. David. David. David. David? David? David? David? David? David? David? David? I was David? I was David? I was David? I was David? I was David? I'm David. I'm th. I'm th. I'm David. I'm David, David, David, I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm th. I'm, I'm, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. th. thi. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. th. I'll. th. I th. I th know, think at the end of school people came up to me I was 18 but what is your first name? I was like David Gandhi. No, I did. Yeah, David Gandhi, welcome to the show. Josh, me and Gandhi are best pals because I'm up from my modeling days. Yeah, of course I forgot about that. Yeah, when I used to, you know, New York
Starting point is 00:11:59 York fashion week, what went wrong? What went wrong? I just lost the I just lost the fire for it. They wanted me back but I was like if I can't do it to my full ability I don't want to know. You know what can't do it any more? I mean I'm like cantonight I'm gonna be like can't the ability but didn't didn't fancy it. You got to go out on top though Rob that's the thing. Exactly. I'm like the just speaking about that. The weird thing is about that is like everything I've done, everyone comes up to me and speaks about that episode from a hot beverage. Really? I'm like that's the best thing you've done. I was like, I was on it for three minutes. I was like, the best thing than the is it what you know you know the advert in the pants that we recreated to the people I'm twice they got a
Starting point is 00:12:48 little bit worried during the episode because you know when you first did your photo shoot yeah it was actually really good and they're like you did your portfolio it was yeah it was yeah the portfolio is not bad actually I don't the people are going to think this is easy David the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the People are going to think this is, which is quite easy. But this is like an easy game. Is it easy, David? Yeah. But yeah, to the point, it's one is that we got them on. Then you had to recreate light blue in the white pants and tie. I'd say it's not easy if you've got my body to recreate David Gandy's famous shot of him on the boat.
Starting point is 00:13:25 How do you feel if your kids went into modeling at an older age? Josh, we need to establish the listener don't know how many kids. You're not being seamless. You're not being seamless. My two kids since you mentioned. But we normally ask the game. How old are they? It's so seamless.
Starting point is 00:13:43 If you ever want to do a podcast, let us know if you need the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be's so seamless this. If you ever want to do a podcast let us know if you need any tips, hints, pointers. I've got two kids, I've got two girls. Two girls. Four, just just over four and just over one. Right. Oh, okay. Busy age. I look very tired. I'm naked mate. I'm slept in four years. This is good. I mean that's actually one thing that the industry because I mean being in the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've to to th. I've th. I've to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. If. th. If. I. I. If. I. I've. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've to. I've to. I've to. I've to. I've to. I've to. I've. I've to. I've to. I've t. I've t. This is good. I mean that's actually one thing that the industry because I mean being in the industry you're you I've been jet lag for 20 years. Yeah. I've been a 90 plus year. The wife finally found a use for me what I don't sleep. Right. Okay well I'm gonna get a good night sleep and you do the nights and that was the life then be the rule so I basically just have got used to you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you to being being being being being being being to being to being to being to being to being to being to being to being the to be able to be able the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th thi thi. I I ty. I ty. I've ty. I've try. I've ty. I've try. I've try. I've that's thi. I've thi. I've thi. So I basically just have got used to, you know, being able to function on four or five hours sleep. So to that to other people is when they have a baby is an absolute shock. I mean, they're just like, oh my god, like how do you function? I've been doing that for years. 90 flights a year. That's what I've done, sometimes more. Have you got a part-time job
Starting point is 00:14:45 as cabin crew or something as well as... I got a lot of fucking airmiles I can't spend for some reason. Because I would say though having a kid is just like being jet-lagged isn't it like all the time and you're saying that you've been preparing for this and it has it helps? It's sleep deprivation isn't yeah? And then we have children and put it in like like like like like like like like like like like to be to be the to be to be the to be the to be the to be the to be their to be their their their to be to be their their to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to fu. I to fu. I to fu. I to fu. I to fu. I to fu. I to to to be to be to be to be to be their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm their their their torture. And then we have children and put it in, like someone said to me the other day, it was the thing that if one of the most complicated, hardest things in life, and anyone can do it. Like, yeah, you're not, you don't have to have an exam.
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Starting point is 00:20:10 So what's your children's diet like? Pretty good, rates of honest. I mean, I'm quite nutritionally, I had to be, I kind of taught myself to be quite nutritionally aware. Yeah, me they say quite nutritionally aware. Yeah me too mate. Big tub. But you know we're with guilty as any but there's you know my idea people think I'm ultra careful about what I eat and everything and carbs and I'm not at all. So you know it's just like instead of if they want chips they get sweet potato fries and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:20:43 that you can, the kids will still eat. My kids don't like chips. They don't like chips. I've never met kids that don't like, they don't like chips. They just go, no I don't like chips. Who don't like chips? No, but who don't like, who don't like, who don't like chips? I don't know't like any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any any they don't to don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like, that, that, th. I don't like, that, I don't like, I don't like chips, I don't like chips, I don't like chips, I don't like chips, I don't like chips, I don't like, th. I don't like, th. I don't like, th. They th. They th. They th. They, th. They, th. They, th. They, th. They, th. They, th. They, th. I don't like, th. I don't like, th. I don't like, th. I don't like, th. thi. they don't like, they don't like, they don't like, they don't like, they don't like, I don't like, I don't like, they don't like, they don't like, they don But what do they get to? Don't you always say I got them a McDonald's? What are they doing? They don't eat the chips.
Starting point is 00:21:06 They just have nuggets or the burger if they have a McDonald's. They don't eat the chips. That's weird, that's weird, isn't it? Yeah. But I don't feel like I should try and get my kids. No. You shouldn't be pushing thin. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. Come. the chips. the chips. the chips. the chips. the chips. the chips. the chips. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They're. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They. They're the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the chips. the chips. the chips. They you eat your chips. Yeah, all those chips. So how have you been traveling a lot still since the babies have been born then? So have you all of you cut back? No, it's just when the baby is born I kind of knew that, because it's only really me instead. So our families, her families are up in Lancashire, Yorkshire, so they're up in Lancashire
Starting point is 00:21:40 Yorkshire so the parents they're they're they're they're four or five hours drive away. My parents are two and a half hours drive away. So it was just us like that was it. So those years, I love traveling. That was my life for 20 years and I love it. But yeah, it was just a conscious decision. I moved all the companies to London, started new companies so I could focus on those, bringing in, bring in teams and to help. It's an idea to stop you being the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the new to to to the new to to the new company. to to to the new company. I. I to the new company. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their company. to to to in teams and to help. Is that an idea to stop you being out then if you've got like, because you've got your new company where I want to talk to you about well wear is your new sort of clothing line. Is it sort of going, okay, how can I establish work where I can be at home more rather than going out for shoots and stuff like that? Yeah, yeah, and if I do go then it's a one night, the one one one one one one one one one one one one one, the one, the one, the one, the one, the one, the one, the one, the one, the one, the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, their, their, their, their, their, their, their., their., their., their. their. the to. their. to to to to to to to to to to's New York it's out, get there in the morning, do them around, have one night, have another day and then come back again. Because it's, I suppose as a model, is there a
Starting point is 00:22:32 thing like what's the progression? Because as you get older, you obviously have very good looking man but is there much work for older? Well, I're going to deal with. Obviously you're still very good looking now. I'm not saying not. But I'm just saying, what is it? Do you have to think of almost like a get-out plan? But you could be like a silver fox, couldn't you at 60, I suppose? There must be still like... If your hair goes gray, I suppose. If not they're in trouble, we can't recall yourself a silver foxes, like adverts. You could do like walking bathes and the the the the the the the the the the ths and ths and their ths and ths and their ths and thi-a-a-a-s and thi-s, thi-s, thi-s, thirty thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty-a-a-a-s, thirty-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-s, thin, thin, thin't thin't thin't thin't thin-s, thooo'-s. tho'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-s'-wo'-s'-s'-wo'-s'. Yeah, instead of stairling, that's absolute blue steel up the stairs. Yeah, men's nappies. Shit yourself in style with David Gandy. Still on the dinghy in it too, but... Yeah. With brown pants instead of white ones.
Starting point is 00:23:21 But I was, because you're at cloving, because I've been looking at it, it looks... I'd say, David, it is like, the, the, the, men men, the, the, the, the, the, the, men men, the, the, the, the, the, men men, the, the, men men, the, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men's the, men's the, men's men's the, men's men's the the, men, men's men's men's men's men's men's men's men's men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men, men men men been looking at it, it looks, I'd say, David, it is like the coolest but quite comfy dad clothes. That's sort of like, that's sort of like, go to well wear. I looked in it. I was like, I like this because you look stylish, but it looks like soft cotton. Do you know what I mean? It looks comfy. It's pretty much what we did. In many ways is when going to boring psychological, psychological, scientific scientific scientific scientific's pretty much what we did, Robin, in many ways, is when going to the boring, psychological, scientific view of why we choose soft clothing. Please do, I want to know, because I'm all over a fleece, but I look like a prick, I'm going
Starting point is 00:23:56 to look like you. If you want to go in scientific view, it's the same thing as when you say you stroke a dog or cat and oxytone is released it's that feel good factor of soft clothing. There are scientific studies been done on students people in work placing in comfortable clothing and not like not comfortable clothing and productivity the positivity everything is increased students exam results were better in comfortable clothing including yeah so it has a major impact actually on and so the other things like the things and so to other things like sustain the things. it things like things like things like things like the the things like the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to feel good the fact fact fact the fact the fact they. their. their. wow. It has a major impact actually on, and so do other things like sustainability. I'm not feeling, I want to feel comfy. I'm joking. Basically, everyone always thinks I'm in suits, I'm in tailoring. Well, we met in Salver Ro of course I love suits and tailoring. Yeah. Pred But predominantly most of the time I'm in sweatshirts or t-shirts or everyday looking after
Starting point is 00:24:51 the children or going to the pub or doing all these different things. And that I was always in t-shirt and jeans or sweatshirts and it just got to a point where we were, I'd already done stuff with MNS anyway, which was I was kind of known for, or again, your autograph. And then I just said, well, I want to, you know, change the narrative a bit and move that brand on. So we just did the ultimate, t-shirt, the ultimate sweatshirts, the ultimate sweatshirts, the ultimate sweatshirts, and we did things, like, I mean, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. atshots you have when you as a dad, you know, you like I mean literally you go out and we don't have a bag, well you can have a handbag I'm not judging. But you know you don't have a bag like a wooden handbag so you've got
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Starting point is 00:26:11 Exactly I can never get the balance right I think Gandhi's nailed it but do you do you guys do you guys worry about the school drop off and what you're wearing yes I went in shorts the other day and it was too, there was too much chat about my legs. Shorts, it's been, that minus two weeks. I've been to the gym and I didn't have time to go home. And then people like you're wearing shorts and I was like, I've been to the gym and they were like, oh someone's been to the gym and I'm not making a statement about you. I'm never going to to the their their their th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm th, I'm that, I'm not that, I'm not that, I'm not that, I'm not that, I'm not that, I'm not that, I'm that, I'm that's that's that, I'm not making that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that, I'm that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that, I've that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thin, I'm not thin, I'm not thin, I'm not thin, I'm not thin, I'm not thin, I'm not thin, I'm not that's that's that's that's that's that's controversial. I think all they lose is at the school gates are just jealous mate. Yeah, exactly. I can't help if I've got good pins.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You know how it is, David. You'd have got it or he haven't. Yeah. Should I set up in all sorts of stuff like I've been building so I've been on like, we've been on site and I've been on site and I mean like boots and a barber and a strange sort of like outfits that have to go, I have to go into a meeting but they have to be on site and always do anything. So I've like turned up in some, and I've gone to the gym and then gone to do the school pick up as well.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I bet no one's having to go at your legs though are they David unlike me. No one's going to know, Josh, that's a couple of stylists guys. It was quite quite funny actually, there's a couple of dads. I kind of called them the rogue dads at nursery. And one of them, Tommy, he's a very cool, he's a good friend of mine now. Very cool guy, like got the beard, the long hair, really handsome. And he said to me, the first. He's, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's to to to to to to to the to to the to the to the to the the the to the the to the to to to to me, to to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, th. That's, to me, th. That's, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to th. He. He. th. th. the the the the the th. th. the th. the th. th. the th. th. the to to the the to th. to thirty to thirty, to thirty, to really handsome and he said to me the first time he went to nursery he said you know to the wife I'm gonna absolutely nail first I'm gonna be the coolest dad that's good so like times off and he said I've got it and he said and fucking David Gandhi turns up on the sports car I like
Starting point is 00:27:56 my life. Fuck my life. That's like something from a sitcom, actually I think, you know, I'm the younger dad, I'm going to be one of the cooler ones, Gandhi rolls in. So I've got to go straight to New York after this actually. What you do? Just walking home, are you having a coffee? So is your oldest going to school? She's, yeah, she was going in September. In September. How you feel about that, looking forward to getting some tha tha thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, the time, thi, the time, the time, the time, the time, thi, thi, to, thi, to, to, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, thathing, thi, thi, thi, thi, I, I, I,time back or? I have this weird thing where I hated school.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Absolutely hated that. So I'm more nervous than she is. So I'm getting, when I walked in, so we've got obviously been to see the school and when we've had the meetings with the teachers, I'm going in having that pit of my, you know in the stomach, I'm going back to school. Like you hear songs of praise on the Sunday night and haven't done your homework. Oh, yeah, I know exactly how you feel I was exactly the same and I was petrified but that they, she didn't give a shit and she loves it. Yeah, no exactly. Yeah, so she seems to be really looking forward to it and I'm kind kind of like a little bit nervous. But you worried about it? that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I I I I I I I I I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm kind thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I feel thi. I feel thi. I feel thi. I feel thi. I feel thi. I feel th. I feel th. I feel th. I feel th. I feel th. I feel th. I feel th. I feel th. I feel thi. I'm thi. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thin. I'm thi. I'm thiiiiiii. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm No, because I'm positive about it. I think I, because I think I had that experience, I know what it shouldn't be. Yeah, I know how school should be. And then she would, and my wife had absolutely
Starting point is 00:29:14 astounding, you know, she love school. We had very, very different up. I don't get those people. I can't believe it. I like to love school. Love school's weird. You calling David Gandy's wife weird? No, I'm not calling David Gandy's wife weird. Well, that's what you've just done. Shhhhh. Don't tell anyone. I'm sure she was getting over it. She's married to David Gandy. She didn't give a shit well either. She's fucking crack that.
Starting point is 00:29:39 She's cracked the code. When people say that, I'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd they'd thulled, I'd tho, I'd tho, I'd tho, I'd tho, I'd tho, I'd tho, I'd tho, I'd th. I'd th. I'd that, I'd that, I'd to to to to to to th. th. tho, tho, th. th. th. th. th. th. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. Sh. She's th. She's th. She's th. She's tho, I'd tho, I'd tho, I'd tho, I'd tho. I'd thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. She's th. She's th. She say that. I love school, I didn't want to, I had people that, why people that didn't even leave school or leave university. I had friends that just kept on doing doctorates so I don't think they wanted to get out of education. I couldn't. I said the only thing I learned from university was I shouldn't have gone to university. That's the only thing that I learned. You've done by anything I learned at school, to us, I'm still waiting to use something at school. Did you miss the week where you learned about soft fabrics? Because that was one of my favorite weeks. That science lesson? Yeah. What did you do at the unny then? What was you studying at at uni? I did a multimedia computing. Right. What does that? What does that mean? I don't know what it meant in the first lecture either. That was before social media as well. I mean, not just like PowerPoint. It was. But they, the teachers couldn't do, but it was moving at such a rate, they couldn't teach the same thing. So they were going, you really have to show us what's available,
Starting point is 00:30:36 what you can do with stuff. I was the only only only only only only only only only only only only only only person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person person. I still still still. I still still I still still. I still still I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still. I still remember it to this day, MM 101, which was multimedia 101, I was the only person there that didn't have a laptop. I just bundled in from Freshers Week and was not feeling the best and then everyone's head just like coding. And, you know, you're a pen and paper to do holy media. Yeah, anyway, we lasted a few years now I came to the fashion game and didn't really know what I was doing in there either, but but I the, I the, I the, I the, I th, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was a thi, I was, I was a th, I was,to the fashion game and didn't really know what I was doing in there either, but the founder, found a niche, what should I say? With the kids, to go back on the earlier question now we've established, would you like them
Starting point is 00:31:13 to follow into the fashion game? There's nothing wrong with it, and I obviously came to the industry, I knew nothing about it, and my family knew nothing about it. And we also sort of went down a path of branding, that really no other male model had kind of, my step before, we've done the boundaries of where other male models had gone, to like try and rival the female supermodel. So I've always felt like I, not quite sure what I was doing. And it was all on me, but if they wanted to, it's just a spanish, it's a different, it's a different industry now. It's not the
Starting point is 00:31:47 industry that we knew and the glamour and everything else. It's a lot to do with influences and you know your your engagement on social media and so it's completely, completely changed industry. So yes I wouldn't, I personally have a a bit of problem with people going into modeling before, but I mean they can go in before they're 16, which I don't agree with that, you can go in at 16, and then you don't have to have a book or anyone go with you after that. I think that should be a lot older. So I would always say to my children, listen, 18 is the cutoff point. If you want to explore, go and explore up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up and explore up until up until up until up until up until up until up until up until up. And to go up. And to go up. to go up. to go not going not going to go not going to go not going. they. And to to they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm, I'm, I'm to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t t t t to. the the the to. the the the the the the the off point. If you want to explore, go and explore up until
Starting point is 00:32:25 that point, you're not going anywhere near it. Of course I've had everyone say, can we do the shoots with the kids? Can we do a campaign with the children? But I keep everything off the social and yeah, I want my kids to have a childhood really like the normal, no normal, I'm saying normal, but yeah. They won't exploit their experiences for a profit, would you? How we would never do that. No, it's different in the fashion world though. We do keep them off social media and something, but for you it is all like the image of it and
Starting point is 00:32:57 having to do photo shoots would be a lot of sort of pressure on them. But I was thinking though, like because of the lifestyle that you had a're doing 90 flights a year traveling all over the world did you think to a point will you ever meet someone and settle down and have kids because it's not really the lifestyle for that kind of relationship is it? Absolutely. I suppose you always hope you do you just adapt to the situation at the time really and you know even when we know when we're in the relationship I was still flying around and you just have to that that's your life that's what you have to do and you have to adapt to that and when you have kids yeah it was it was saddened I was just I had positioned that so that I didn't have to be flying as much I'd love to be away I mean don love doing it. I was then suddenly going from doing that. I hate routine.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I can't stand routine. Yeah. And then I'm you are in student and I, you know, get up, take the dog for walk, look after the baby, go and do some work, go, you know, go to the supermarket, come back, go to look at it know exactly. What is this? So what is your routine now then? How is it? How is it? It's madness. It is honestly, honestly.
Starting point is 00:34:11 We've been building a house for two years. There is no real routine. My other half is a barrister. So again, you don't know when she's going to be in court. I'm in court yesterday. I'm the other. this moment and said you know what was me in court yesterday because they called I am in the now court now court now so you know nursery runs, work, everything she's in court she can't do anything about it. She has to be so I have to change my everything tomorrow. What's she been accused of stuff around.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Bit of fun. Binge Charles actually made that same I don't go named like King Charles. I met him. He's got to say Badger as King I'm Josh Winnipe of. Did you what? Then the King? I wares. I meat the king. He made that joke and I met him. We were at, we're in Scotland doing something with the British Wall and I met him. I said oh my actually I'm meeting you for Stolfer soldiers. I'm a patron for it and he and he and he the the said my other half will be there and I mean bless him when he got to that party he's probably met another 500 people that day he said David remembered my name he said where is like is Stephanie here and I said my god you like you remember I said I'm so sorry and she's um she's in court and he said oh my goodness what did she do
Starting point is 00:35:21 the job he he said oh my god he my goodness what did she do? I thought he was very good like I've always been very fond of you. Yeah I like the cut of his jib which would get him on. At least you're not doing Prince Phillips stick that would get us in trouble Josh. Let's keep it to Charles. Prince Charles would be a good guest. How are you getting on with both your sons? Let's go through them on one at that. And your brother, how's the the the their their thing thing, how thing, how thing, how thing, how thing, how thing, how's he? Apart from that.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I was going to ask well though, obviously your kids having a much different lifestyle to you now, like, you know, you grew up in Billerickey. Do you ever take them back to Bill and Ricky to see their roots? I don't go back that much. I've still got all friends there that still close friends. My family, my mom and dad moved, they moved 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, they moved, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, they were 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, they were 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to, like, like, like, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. You, th. You, you, thi, you, you thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, you, you thi, you, they're in the Essex off board now. Bill Ricky was, I think what we're saying this the other day to a couple of the dads is that when I was, I remember being nine or 10,
Starting point is 00:36:11 and I would just leave, I would say, mom see you later, and she'd be like, yeah, bye. And I was being on roller then you know I would go back to Anthony's or answer you come back to us and then then the moms would go I'll call you mom's guys like to stay for dinner yeah stay for dinner and we'll drop you off later. Like the hot like nine or ten just like the hot like the 12 hours we I'm taking I haven't got a nine year old yet but I couldn't imagine no no leave no no no no no no no no no to leave don't do do do do do do do do do you you you you you you you don't do you don't do you don't see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see see you don't do you don't do you walk across town and your roller skates. Off you go. So madness. So, yeah, it's a different upbringing.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I wouldn't say it's vastly different. I mean, I'm like, it's pretty normal. It's pretty normal upbringing. And there's things that my parents have instilled with me. My father was keen for us to see a lot, you know, education through travel. So he took us everywhere. So my dad had a very impublished background so wanted to see the world. So and I didn't really appreciate that. So and I didn't really appreciate until actually I met David Attenborough and
Starting point is 00:37:25 I spoke to him about being a monster guerrillas and tracking for gorillas. There's not that many people that can do that. But that's where I always understood as like listen to your mom and dad they do actually know what they're talking about. I remember going to go to my dad once I was about 17 and I had 11 year old. the window. to. I was 11. I was 11. I was 11. I was. I was. I was 10. I was 10. I was. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. th. thereen. I was thereen. I was the the the the the the the the the thereeree. I was going. I was going. I was going. I was going. I was going. I was going. I was going. I was going. I was going. I was going. I was going. And th. And th. And th. And th. And I was going. And I was. And I was. And, I was. And, I was. And, I was. And, I was. And, I was. And, I was. And, I was a tot. And, tot. And, tot. And, tot. And, tot. And, tot. And, tot. And, tot. And, tot. And, tot. And, tot. And 11 year old, Ford Fiesta, the windows didn't work. I went on a day a couple of times, the window didn't go down and then the door latches broke. So she had to get out through the sunroof. That was it. And I was furious about it. And I was like, Dad, this is this car.
Starting point is 00:37:57 And then, so we're chatting. on his holiday. I said they obviously cost you know a decent amount of money and he said yeah of course David he said I said so could I maybe not come on holiday and I put that money towards a car. Now my dad without even blinking sort of said David you don't have to come on holiday but you're not getting a new car so you decide whether you want to sit on your own during the summer or whether you want to go. I said, I think I'll come on a holiday, you go just get out of my office. And that was basically that was... So it was the different, yeah, it was parents know best and you know the first thing where I met David Atta and went, I was just able to speak to David Atom about being about being amongst gorillas. their things. Do you want their their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. I th. thah. th. that. that. that. that. that. that is just. I was just that. I was just that. I was just thi. I was just, I was just, I was just, I was just, I was just, I was just, I was just, I was just, I was just, I was just, I was just, I was just, I was, I was just, I was, I was, I was, I was th. I was. I was, I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was thi. I was just, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that Is that something you want to put with your? Have you taken them anywhere yet? No, they're young. I'm going to sound like, you see there's just one thing where I'm very conscious, especially I suppose with my upbringing is that I want my children to the value of money and I want them to work and I want them to
Starting point is 00:39:06 graft. I want them things. Yeah. I th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th th th th and th th th th th th things th things th things thin thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. the. I thea. I thea. theateateateateateateate. theateat. theateat. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they'reto, and things aren't given to them. I'm doing a terrible job at that at the moment. Like, I'm awry. I mean, my daughter learned, and this is going to sound so pretentious, my daughter learned to walk her first steps were on a beach in Turks and Caicos. Really? That's quite uneven that sand, so she's got good stability, good balance. It's like the Brazilian footballers, when they learn on a beach, they're actually better when they then got on the pitch. She'll be a superb walker or grass. Yeah, she is, they learn very early. And that, I look at that then, she's, on the wrong, she's, it's the right end of the plane, but the wrong end of the plane. She shouldn't be here. realized she's just going to get used to this and think that this is how people live and this you don't have to.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I was watching Jerry Seinfeld today and he was, I've been to do it, you know, ever seen the comedians and cars with coffee. Yeah, no, yeah. Good show and he was, and he said to him, and his daughter said, are we rich? And he said, well, throwne. I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. I's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I's, I's, I's, I's, I yeah, it's that element to all those things like I want to know value money and want them to work and just not that everything is just done for you really at the end of the day. That was instilled in. I worked.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I was a pizza deliverer. I worked voluntarily at the dog century when I was like 15, 16. You know, I paid my Jews in many ways of understanding that you have to work for stuff and you have to graft. Well you know you've got but you've grafted in your career as well like you say when you first come into it you were treading new ground really because it was the female supermodels but not not the men and you sort of you know established yourself and even then you've got to this level you're still like starting new brands and stuff like that, but I think sometimes when you want to show your kid what you're doing, it's like they'll see from how you are. Hopefully, but yeah, I think great example.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Right, you can't really tell anyone anything you show them and I think when they get a bit older and see that you're grafted. My daughter's gonna see how stressed I am and go, I want someone who's constantly panicking about their career. That's what I'm looking for. Lending bed at 9 p.m. listening to brown noise crying. That's the lifestyle I want. You've met just a couple of times like the parents at nursery and stuff. Are you heavily, are you, because I'd say there's a difference between me and Rob. I'm quite into being the kind of amongst the parents
Starting point is 00:41:25 and the WhatsApp groups and stuff. Rob hates all the other parents and he won't deny that. I don't hate them all. I'm just, I'm busy and I'll play football with them, but I'm not organizing treats. Rob paid three other parents. So where are you? My other half calls me socially inept. start. That might give you an idea of, I'm quite a loner.
Starting point is 00:41:46 So my wife is brilliant, social elements. Like she's just great. So she's involved in that whole thing. I, I, I, I, like I have, I think we've chosen, we're choosing each other. I call them like the rogue element. So the dads that will go to the pub and they'll have a few eggs and we'll take the kids to a lunch but we know it's actually really a bit of a booty. And yeah, the same sort of myself, there's like, I'm very obviously polite and nice to everyone.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I won't know people. We've been there for a few years now. My wife will still say the names of the children and the mom and dad I'll be like which one's that who's that and she got my god. Oh my word if I had a game if I had to match the children to the parents that would be one of the worst days of my life. If they were all lined up outside the school and I had to give them children to the right parents. Can you do it? No no no no apart from me yeah there's so there's a few and actually we've their some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some their their their their their their their their their their their there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th thus thus the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th ones that my wife has forced me to talk to and socialize with become good friends. And I think that you I think there's something you've got a lot in common when you when you because you know a lot of friends if they haven't got children they just don't understand they can't get. Yeah, they can't get the factors they go oh we'll pop around. they go okay. they're they're the fact. they'll they're they're they're pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop. We'll pop around. We'll pop around. We'll pop around. We'll pop around. We'll pop around. We'll pop around. We'll pop around. We'll pop around. We'll pop around. We'll pop around. We'll pop. We'll pop. We when you want to pop around. And they go, and then kind of, like, so get her at five
Starting point is 00:43:07 or get her a half post four and they're having dinner at half five. And then after that, it's kind of like bedtime and we're going to be bedtime and then their bed, and they go, yep, got it,'re try and get to the bed. Yeah, absolutely. You fucking morons. I told you come round at five. Do you think I just did that for a laugh, do you? Yeah, I plucked that out the air, you've crittens. It's like my friends who they were walking across the other day and they said, well we'll walk from Richmond and to meet you said, great. They then walked for like 40 minutes, and I still wasn't there. They were, where are you?
Starting point is 00:43:48 I was having a half an hour, because my daughter had a tantrum because she didn't want to change her tights. But she did want to change her tiets. But she didn't want to change her ousers because trousers don't go with her dress and it was this and I wasn't giving and then she was like I don't want to go out now I was like well I'm gonna leave you two guys this one I was like well I've got to be strong on this one I'm not going to break so um and then we walked out and they would walk ov over in in in in in in in in in in in in to to to to to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go go go to go to go go to go to go to go to go to go to go out to go out to go out to go out to go out to go go go go go to go out to go out to go out to go out to go out to go out to go to go to go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go to go to go. to to to to to to to to to to to to. to. to. to. I to. I to. I to. I was. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm not going to break. So, and then we walked out and they would walk over so five minutes late, like it's literally I walked into part of two minutes and then we came back home and had a cup of coffee.
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Starting point is 00:44:57 They're just sort of a general disdain and disgust that I get from Lou's eyes. Did you put a time limit on that though? So is there like at the end of the tunnel, Rob? Yeah, she's all over me now. She can't get enough of me. Actually, if you think of all the was like a house full of women, including the dog, there is a point where I get ignored by everyone. So even like my baby, the tab, she's won. If she bumps her head or before so well that hurts herself slightly, I could be nowhere near this, she blames
Starting point is 00:45:28 me for it. She like, she stares at me in like the test of like, I don't know what is. It's not me. I wasn't anywhere near she like she might she just turns away from me. It's your curse that you're in the only house of women in the world that wouldn't want David Gandhi to be there. Like every other house of women would be delighted David Gandhi. You hang around long enough to become the villain David. That's all that. I've got to even, I've got to get a dog, like a male dog, I've got to get one. Just so.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Do your daughter's like, my daughters are going for a stage now, they won like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the football with. Yeah. Do your daughter's like, my daughters are going for a stage now and they won't hug me because my beard's scratchy. And they hate that. That's something I'm struggling with at the moment to the point where I have to pull a jumper over my face. And then they'll do it, but I feel that. But now I feel that they're just doing it because this one as such, but like if I had a bit more of a looser one. Yeah, a bit like you just pull it over a bit like a balaclava. Put it over like that and then I can hug me there and then my beard's, my beard's covered.
Starting point is 00:46:30 That is that's pathetic. Mental scars. There is that element, like my daughter, there is this routine in bed where I've kind of the bedtime times where it's now, like put your pajamas on, you get one video to watch on my phone whilst I put a pajamas on because you kind of work out otherwise they're jumping around, they can't get your legs in later. So you get one video, you get one video, that's fine. It's then two stories, it's then have a little conversation about stories, and then she leans on my arm and she has a back tickle and then and then then then then then then then then then their their their their their their their their their their their their their they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's. they's. they go and then she's a sleep and it's like a half an hour but I'd rather go through that than we've had other parents here that leave their kids in beds with iPads or phones or try and I'm like no I'll go through my half an hour and then I know I'm good for the evening but the last two nights is she's always like daddy I lay on your arm she goes and thened over and I'm that's killed me and I'm like I'm like I don't know before that I've been moaning about her like I'm
Starting point is 00:47:30 why do you have to let my like into myself like oh I've had to this arm and that's the routine and when she says I don't want to do it I'm devastated and I'm like I know I know don't do that and then when they get a bit older, David, like, I was like, oh, it'll get easier, like, but actually, I'm finding it harder because they get clever, because they can negotiate. So it'll be like, no, three videos for that. And then it would be like, oh, actually, let's have a suck. So they start and kind, oh, well, can we have a song, like, the other one I go, well she picked
Starting point is 00:48:05 a song, I need to pick a song now, and then they go, well you need to pick a song, I'm like, I don't want to pick a song, but you've got a routine like you've got at the moment that's that is the sweet spot I think when... It depends on the song you're choosing. But what do you know I want all by myself? That's what we're not doing. I'm just crying. Percy sledge trying to get into sleep.
Starting point is 00:48:38 So yeah, it's just this the routine thing that we do. And it's like I've, but I love children negotiating where they don't actually realize. So I go, all right, five minutes and they go three. And you go, okay, three's better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll do that. Eat five more bits of pasta, seven, fine. Yeah, go three more bits of pasta. Deal on the pasta, one bit. the the the the the the pasta. What is that a bad thing to be doing?
Starting point is 00:49:06 No, I'm like three bits of pasta, one bit of avocado, one carrot, and then I'm terrible, like, I never thought I'd like the bribing thing. Yeah. I've taken that. And like dessert, pudding. Yeah, or like dessert, I was trying to get it to finish a pizza to have pudding but a pudding was watermelon. Surely just give it a watermelon. That's better like, stop giving a pizza, let her have the fruit, the fruit's all right. It's not like she was going to have a tear them and sew or so. So what are you saying, certain foods your kids are into, are they just eating anything? Mine are quite their chips though. Yeah, I mean you're, we're used to, around the house their their their to, like to, like to, their to, to have their to have their to have their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to have their fruit, to have their to have to have their to have their their their their their their their their their their their their, let their their their their, let their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th fruit, th. the. theat, theat, tapeat. tapeat. tapeat. tapeat. th. th. the. theat, the. I. My other half is half Greek. So, yeah, I mean, you're used to, around the house having olives and big beans and stuff like that. So, they're cused, they're called big beans. They're called big beans.
Starting point is 00:49:56 They're called big beans. No, big bean. I'll never add a big bean in a Greek salad. What do you mean big beans? They're sure she's Greek. I didn't see one big bean. Big beans. I didn't see one big beans. I didn't see big beans. I've googled. I've googled. I've googled. I've googled. Yeah. I've googled. Big beans. Yeah. I've googled. I've Google big beans. Yeah. I now make thinks. I'm. that. that. the big. the big. the big. the big. the big. I'm. the big. I'm. I'm. the big. I'm. I'm. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm. I'm. the the the big. I'm. Big. Big bean. Big bean. Big bean. Big bean. Big. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I. I'm. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. the. I'm good. the. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm got Big Beans Greek. Yeah, so yeah, and I now make those because she's Greek and they're something that in Greece you're eating is delicious.
Starting point is 00:50:29 So, yeah, it's like a nooky size. Oh, I know a big bean. Yeah, big like I can't. So, yeah, yeah, they're not olives. They'll eat olives and avocados and stuff like that. That's like that. That's that. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. That's. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. That's. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. That's. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. That. That. That. That. That's. That's. That's. That's. That. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. Oh. That's. Oh. Oh. That's. Oh. Oh. terrible. She has either a crosson or pan of chocolate every morning. We went through a crosson face. Gosh, she's a 40-year-old divorcee that works in media. She has a latte. She has a latte. She can't get started when she has a latte. That's not so. That's not, that's not, yeah. That's the oatmeal, milk latte. It's not the same time. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. Well. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a the the the the th. It's a th. That's not so, that's not, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:05 that's, oh milk, oatmeal latte for a place, it's not terrible. At the same time, it's like, I don't know, cornflakes or frosties, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what I'm gonna. It's probably better than frosties. It's probably better than frosties. butter crosson, would you like a pan of chocolate? I'm a, what am I doing? She has a buttered bagel, my daughter has a buttered bagel, the other one has a jam on toast, but I think jam on toast is just like
Starting point is 00:51:30 the English croissant or pan of choccala and it, yeah. It's not fancy though is it? It's a bit of chocolate in some butter. I know, yeah. Because France. No one in France is going, look at this posh kid. Don't be that I think we're too strict. I would rather my children eat something they enjoy rather than try to force them to eat what I pursue. Yeah, we've all, you know. I think social media got a lot to do with our own life. Your life changed, David, from your background to where you are now, and you're struggling with your class, I'd recommend a class act by Rob Beckett, a book that explores the nature of class
Starting point is 00:52:12 and their children. I'd say it's a great read. There's 200 pages on his first quass on. It's unbelievable stuff. Yeah, 3,000 words less than Prince Harry talking about Apache helicopters. Oh my God, don't talk to me. Kids, kids, TV, do you watch it? Yes. What's your favorites and what? Oh, well, it progresses, doesn't it about what you, you, you know, from when they're young to, so Coca-Mellon, we're back on to Coca-Mellon. Okay, yeah. Oh, that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a tough-a-a-a-tough-tough-tough-tough-tough-a-tough-a-a-tha-a-a-a-a-a-s-s. tha-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a. th. th. Kids. th. th. Kids. th-s. Kids. th-s. Kids. Kids. Kids. tod-s. Kids, tod-s. Kids-s. Kids-s. Kids-s. Kids-s. Kids'-s. Kids-s. Kids-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-sa-s. Kids-s. Kids-s. Kids-s. Kids-s. toda. That one. I think when I talk about kids programs, I feel like four X cons talking about prisons. But as it did a fourth stretch of Belmarshall, oh, tough.
Starting point is 00:52:50 He's been on cocoa melon. He's done two years on cocoa melon. You are? Sure. Baby, Jake was my bellish. Yeah, cocoa melon. Duggy, I enjoy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Duggy, I can take. There's certain ones I can. I will watch also. Blue we've done. They're still quite young though, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah. So we're, like, they love like the car on the way to the way to they's singing and I will do it as well Like is it either frozen um yeah, I can't remember the other one was
Starting point is 00:53:28 There's like three times or encanto yes, that's the one. Yeah, so it's so those three but not they sit and really watch the films It's more just music in the car that we enjoy so what about twirly woos? What about twirlie woes? What about? So? What about? What about? What about? What about? What about? What about? What about? What about? the theirly? their-a? their-a? their-a? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-I thi-a? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I? I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th? I? I's? I's? I's? I's? I'm th. thi-I thi-n-I thi-n'-I thoooooo'-I th-I th-I th-I th-I th-I th-I thi I like the Twirly Woos. I miss the Twirly Woos. I like them. You know, I had a Twirly Woo's, yeah. That's like an open prison, isn't it? Yeah. One of those ones where like a financial crime you get sent to. No, I haven't done Twirly Woos. Oh, like, I've been the twe. twe. twe. Twely. Twely. Twely. Twely. Twely. Twely. Twely. Twely. Twely. Twely. Twelly. Twelly. Twelly. Twelly. That. That. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's like, th. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. That's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the I ever go back to Thomas the Tank in June, like there's a story behind something. So the kids say if we turn over I'm like, I just want to see what happens to Thomas's right. Just keep it off for 30 seconds. Like, oh, oh no. Okay. Yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:54:18 It is weird that like those people that make kids shows when we we to like so they're seen by so many people you wouldn't expect to watch these shows do you know I mean yeah like like you wouldn't think David Gandhi would have a view on hey Dougie you just wouldn't think it like it have you been asked to Michael Sheen about Mr. Tom yeah you must have done the bedtime story I know I would like to do a bedtime story get him in he but again that's something I choose I you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you to to to to to you to you to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi the that the that that that's the that that that that that's the the the the the the the the the the story. Get him in, he'd be quiet. But again, that's something I choose. I also, you know, go, what do you want to read? And I go, well, Daddy would choose because Daddy has the ones that he enjoys reading. Yeah, not the ones that sometimes you enjoy reading. Like the Dines saw the pooped. Poop's funny. That's funny. Don't don't so the done. Don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't do poop. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't do the poop. Don't. Don't the the poop. Don't the poop. Don't to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the poop. Don't the poop. Don't the poop. Don't the poop. Don't the poop. Don't the poop. Don't the poop. Don't the poop. Don't the poop. Don't the poop. Don't the poop. Don't the poop. Don't do the poop. Don't do the poop. Don't do the poop. Don't do the the the the the poop. Don't do the poop. Don't do. Don't do. Don't want you the the to read. Don't want you to read. Don't do. Don't do. Don't do. Don't do the the the the the the the the the the to to to princess, yeah, the legend joins those ones and, have you done you choose?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Have you got these books? They call you they're good. Those, yeah, so it's like, you're your princess, which castle do you want, which? Yeah, and they do the, they choose the store. I don't know, my kids have got enough opinions. How about how I fucking choose? Sorry, are they good though? Do they like them? Yeah, they're good though. I think they're good those books. Sometimes you and Stephanie just sit and do it.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Does she read you choose to you? I think you're good to choose. Um, I mean those days, yeah, I mean, we, Chris, today's right. It's good to know even Gandhi's not shagging. Oh, that's great. It's good to know. That's give me a real boost, Dave. That's really, pump me up. You know, it is that point of like, you know, having two, one was okay.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Like, you've got a bit of rest. Two is we have one each. So if I'm, if I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I with I'm doing stories with the tilder, Steph's spinning the baby down and then that that's our you know she looks up that that then be the rules at the moment and if we are sometimes ever just in the bed together like because we were just like oh wow like hang on a minute and we're almost waiting for like okay he's gonna wake up first or who yeah and I'm quite strict about children being in bed. So my step isn't. So she's had the, she'll have the baby in bed. I can't be in the bed with a baby. Because I just think, I just don't trust. I'm, I'm kind of big and I'm a deep sleep when I do sleep. And I just think, no, I'm like, and I can't get to sleep because of the ther. thrown. the, the, th. th. the, th. th. th. the, the, th. th. the, th. the, th. the, th. the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the, the baby, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the baby, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the the the the the the the the the t t the t t t t t t t t the. the. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the literally like a dog trying to find somewhere to sleep around the house. Like going rounding a circle.
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Starting point is 00:58:57 think Antio Hopkins was that good in the game. Not compared to Science the Lambs. She's watching Andrew Tate videos comes out top G. Actually, I think the Matrix is trying to get him, Dad. Last, we do the final question, Josh. It's been an absolute pleasure. I've absolutely loved this, David. Our final question is, what one thing does your partner do that you think is kind of, I can't do the... I'm so bad at the final question. Why am I so bad? Final questions.
Starting point is 00:59:30 What one thing winds you up about the way your partner's definitely parents that really gets under your skin me. You don't really bring it up because you don't have an argument about it or kick off, everyone's tired. But if she wants to listen back, she might there. And as well as that, to get you out of jail, which you might need, considering she's a barrister, what is the positive, what is the thing that she does me go, I am so happy that I had children with this woman, she is amazing. What does she do as a mom? Got a tough ask here Dave.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I love this one. I love this when we say we've never, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've th, we've the, the th, they, th, tho, they, they, they, their, what, what, what, tho, their, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, they. What, they. they, they, they, they, they, they, they. What, they She'll like that one. It's a service because if she listened she might go yeah that's right actually you could have told her as well just reinforce it on it it's up to you. It depends how difficult you want this weekend to be for you. Yeah how long do I want to put the pressure on but a lot of people listen to this show? How do I want to want to the pressure to be to be the pressure to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the pressure to be to be the pressure to be to be to be the pressure to be the pressure to be the pressure to be the pressure to be the pressure to be the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure to be the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure the pressure to be the pressure to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the pressure to be the pressure to be th this show. How long do I want to be ignored for this week? That's I mean she is a I think she's probably a match I would say the positive things like a natural parent more than me. I would probably say she's she's wanted children she's absolutely brilliant like she did I can't listen there's not many things I say. We pair even if I think we're, you know she doesn't. She, I can't, there's not many things, I say, we pair, even if I think we, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:49 she doesn't quite agree with something I've done or something I've said to the children, and I'm vice versa is we'll back each other up. So if you think, well, daddy says my, you do what daddy says and you do what we'll do what you're done there, but let's right, we'll have sort of out later. So I think we're always backing each other up, which is good. No, she's just an incredible mom. Like she really really is.
Starting point is 01:01:13 And that's instilled. Like, she teaches the kids to love each other as well. The two kids absolutely adore each other. And that's good. How do you do that? I mean this will change, this will absolutely change. I mean I... How do you do that? How do you that... I don't know. I don't know. When this is like 13, 14, I think that they might change slightly. Yeah, absolutely. But the one thing is that does right I don't... I don't... God I'm not gonna go there. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't, I don't, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, how, how, how that, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how don't do don't do don't do don't do don't do that, I don't do that, I don't do that, I don't do that, I don't do that, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, don't, don't, don't th. I don't that, don't that, don't that, don't that, don't that, don't that, don't that, don't th. I don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, I don't, I don't, um, I, God I'm not going to go there. Come on, you, you pussy. Go there.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I look. The worst thing is, the fact you won't go there means that there is one that he knows. There is one to go. You've done there. I'm probably struggling to. I think the only things, but I love the outdoors and taking dogs walks and walking out mountains and doing all these different things and I would love my children to be the same and Steph you know like you know like we were in
Starting point is 01:02:20 once in Greece and we said oh we walked up mountains Mount uh Mount Zeus and they she the waiter went to me, why did it do that? Just getting bringing me fucking Big Bates and cleave it to yourself, all right? Didn't really have an answer. I don't know. I don't include the view.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Shut up. Like, um, but have been doing that now. We're moved to the new house and we're in Richmond Park and we've been building fairy dens and, but there is a case where Stephanie said, no, I'm not really, don't really. It's quite cold. I want to stay in. And of course, kids will go, kids come with me or stay at home with mommy in the warm. Yeah, like we all want to kind of do. It's like, let's come out. It's mommy coming. No, she's not coming. Well, why are we going? Because that's just it. Just do what I'm doing as you told? Just come with me?
Starting point is 01:03:12 So it's not a criticism. It's just we're different in that myself. But I'm sure we're, you know, from that. Should we're the judge judge. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to be different. to be different. to be different. to be different. to be different. to. to. to be different. We're different. to. to. to. to. to. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. We're different. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the criticism or not when she listens or not she that's the barrister she will be the judge definitely yeah even if she doesn't listen David she will be told about it at the school gate yet to win an argument in six years and this stuff yeah how is that you genuinely just lose every argument with the barrister can't you just they are just they are they are trained just to get what they they the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to they to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the that they are trained just to, they are brilliantly trained to get what they want you to say out of you. That's pretty much it. And you go, even when I think like she's done something really, I'm like, got it, right, I might have, I can have a go at this one. Somehow I come up still being the bad person. I'm, how, how did that happen? Like you did that wrong and I'm, it's me. How? If you ever are kicking off, do you ever go and put a wig and gown on and go, look, I'm feeling pretty confident about this argument actually. I've gone full method.
Starting point is 01:04:14 David, thank you so much. It's amazing. And good luck with your new range. Wellware. I'm gonna get myself a nice soft cotton hoodie and trousers and be able to wear them for the school run without the disrespect that I get currently. Yeah, it'd be good to see them on some hot bodies because I've looked to the pictures of you modeling it David and I thought, you want to see it on me and Robb. On some real men? That's some real men. I'll be photographed in it running out the chip shop with a load of chips. It's a real man.
Starting point is 01:04:48 That's a real man wears it. But thanks so much David. Cheers for this. Lovely guys. David Gandhi there. What a lovely bloke. He's an absolute legend. Yeah, I'm a today. So it's such a good bloke, it's such a laugh. Sadly, it's the full package that's really annoying. Well, do you know what?
Starting point is 01:05:05 I felt that because I was like, oh, he's probably going to be like, boring or a wanker. No, funny, likeable, really good bloke. Really charming. Heart in the right place, very sensible. But what I respect about is, he doesn't ram it down your throa. He's not front and center. It allows us to think maybe there's something wrong with him, even though he knows he's great. Right, see on Tuesday. That was David Gandy, what a bloke. His clothes actually do look decent, actually.
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