Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S7 EP35: The Face of Shame

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

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Rob Beckett. Rob Beckett. Rob Beckett. Yeah? Then say Josh. Last one, yeah. Then say Josh Whitcomb. Josh Whittakum. Just speak a pub. Not Josh Widumb.

Josh Whittakum. Oh, what? That sounded like that they were sort of generic sort of British and then they caught Welsh. And as they called it, it developed and got to sort of like quite an intense level of Welsh as that went on? Do you reckon that was sort of like a telephone voice to start with and they were looking to it? Where do they live? Tokyo? Flipping Nora. Imagine they're allowed to believe where they live. Where do they live? Tokyo. Flipping Honora. Imagine they're from Newcastle. Canichewa Robon Dosh. Oh, Canichiwa? I want to go to Japan just so I can say can't you are. I'm going to say canichua is the coolest greeting in the world. I'd say what's up there? Corpkin Car, in Thailand. What's that, Korea? Thailand? Corpkin Car.

And then the hands together, little head bow as well, comes in with that. Right, this is Ben, who's 32 years old and is little brother Edward who's almost 72 months. What? Oh, his little brother to Edward, who is almost 72 months, six years. We live in Tokyo. I was listening on cycling back from dropping my oldest off at school. And I remember Rob wondering if anyone was from, anyone from Japan to Tokyo listen to the podcast. So here I am. I'm English from Newcastle and my husband is from Perth, Australia. We met in a pub when we were both living in London and moved to Tokyo in 2014. They've got like Romcom lives. Yeah. Keep it sexing and relatable relatable and thank you for getting me through the relentless boxing up packing, unbiking visas househunting admin crying

laughing more crying embassies and everything else. I think cycling in London I can't bear it. The thought when I see parents turn up. I love to see you on a but you should do that for that show you do doing niche where you've got a message across London on bike. I'm not going to get on a bike because I'll die. Like, when I see a parent turn up with a child on like, basically in the front basket like ET at school. If I did that, I'd be petrified every morning. Well there's a Dutch bloke who's got a daughter in my kid's school. He cycles in but he's cycled in with his daughter who cycles but she cycled in

my reception because they love a bike in Holland, don't they? So she was cycling at the edge of like five along these roads and I could and he's lovely boat and this way this way and he's all this this this this this this this this this this this this he's all this he's all he's all th. th. th. th. th. I's all th. I's all th. I's all th. I's all th. I's all th. I's all th. I's all th. I's all I's all I'm the they. I's all the the the the their. I's their. I's they. I's they. I's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I's they. I's they. I's they. I's they. I's they. I's they. I's the the the th. I's th. I's th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I's th. I th. I'm th. I's theeeeeeee. I's th. I's th. I'm lovely boat and he's like yes this way this way and he's all like chilled and Dutch I'm like mate I get it but you're not in Amsterdam this is probably it's like right van drivers I never once I hired a line bike you know them line bikes they did him bomb me from a week until they all just got chucked in ponds right and I left all pinton station I got on a line bike and I went past the cab bike and I went and I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th I'm th I'm the th was th was the the the th was the th was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they I'm they I was was was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was th I was th I was th I was th I was th I was th I was th I was toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy toy th th th I went past the cab rank and these cab drivers went, Oye Beckett you bike wanker because I cycled home and he's just like this way I think this is danger roads this is not the road it's not like London when there's bike lanes. Broly he's not the face to cycle. Sweat is anyone thinking about sweat? I just sort of think how smelly their arseholes are when they arrive to the office when they've cycled all the way there. It's horrible.

And then they queue up for a shower like they've just, you know like the people do when they're holding a match. What? Yeah I'm holding a match yeah. Have you lit a candle for this chair for two hours talking to you. No, I like it. It's a nice smell, isn't it, candle. I mean, what am I just to find a can, you know what I've lit it? Why don't you know?

Why the candle? Because it smells of so good in the place for it. The Rose told me off for. Right, me and Lou's had a row this morning, I can run it through. Well, I look forward to that. So I had to email my daughter's teacher. Yeah. And I copied Rose in.

I justto the teacher hey mate no you can't I think you can I don't think you should start any any matter to anyone with hey mate why not anyone that says to me hey mate they ain't my friend I'm haemating all over the shop you should not hate mate I don't like how do you agree people all right bro no I'll say hello mate in person but not written down. What would you say? Dear, ex. I'll say hi, hello or hi Mrs or Mr. whatever their name is. Well, and if they start dropping in their first name at the end of the message, then in future

correspondence I might slip into first name terms. No, she does use her first name. So she's already, she's already friendly. So hi Sarah. Hi Sarah, just a quick one. Hey mate, I think it's creepy. By the way Alex Scott's replied. You know you creeped her out after that gig when you mess it. It didn't creep her out. Why is she replied? Well because she seems to like me. to theymed her. She She ignored her. She ignored her. She. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She said. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She said. She said. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She. She's. She said. She said. She said, th. She said, th. She's. She's. She said. She's. She's. She said. She's. She said. She said. Hey Emda, you know you DMed her and she ignored you. And I said, oh no. Hi Alex, was you up, Madonna with Josh Wittiken a few weeks ago. She went, hello, ha ha ha, I sure was, lafie, it was a good concept.

No. No. And I said, Ithen he messaged apologized. I told him it was a weird thing to do. You didn't write that, did you? And she said, I agree. No she didn't. No she didn't. I wrote that but she has not replied to that one. Oh! So I don't think she wants to confirm the weird. that to be the, hey mate, bit weird, I'm totally that is weird. I couldn't be more in agreement with Rose. But I doubt I think it's totally fine. Hey buddy. No I didn't say I mean you wouldn't get a chief. Hey pal. I hate when people used to call me. People don't call me as much now because I've been big guy and I'm five.

I don't know who called you big guy? There's some people and I don't like it. My third I think you've got to be over six two to be called big guy. Yeah. I did a corporate last week Josh the Northampton Shere Business Excellence Awards and it was at Northampton Cricketground and they had a award for Courtney Laws. you know the rugby player? No. He's six foot, six foot, seven, right? Big rugby guy. And the guy's organizing, both like six foot two or six foot three. And then I kept on telling me because he's six seven joke, caughtly laws.

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Greg Davis met Richard Osmond or Stephen Merchant? Oh, we've got a big one here? How quickly in the conversation do you go? Well, me and you and you're... Yeah, because I genuinely don't think about height at all. I never think about it. And people think I know and people mention it sometimes what I've done gigs we go oh you're people who make jokes about me being short and I I it's the only time I think about it. Yeah or after a gig I've had people go to be oh I thought you know oh you're a bit short from real life. Yeah yeah I'm like well okay and I don't know what else to say. I'm not sat behind a desk on what the week. Or the worst is when I have photos and then women sometimes crouch down. And I'm like, are you trying to make me feel better or do you not want to look massive? I don't know who you're doing this for.

Like Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman when she had to always wear flats. Some women, more women than men have their face, their that they like to be photographed. Right. So that they'll have a picture, they say can have a picture but they want to stand like with the left side because that's their best side because that's their best side. But then sometimes if you get two girls at the best side to left you have to have two photos because they both have to to their photos and Who is that real thing? Yeah, I didn't realize. Have I got a person? I've been learning that you're supposed to suck in for a photo like recently. But maybe then that's maybe that's my charm that I'm completely oblivious. I think I'm best

straight on. So let's show us your side. I mean it's a ter is it this, Rob, that you're used to straight on? Because you've looked yourself in the mirror straight on for 40 years. So I always find it weird when I see myself from the side. I always think, God, I've got a really protruding nose. Do you ever feel like, it's weird that I'll never see my own eyes? What? You've never see your own eyes? What? You've never see your own eyes? Okay, yeah, you can look at obviously the right go was it a candle or was it a joint that you let Because like obviously you see your own hands, but like in mirrors not real You know what I mean that's nonsense But like you can actually see your own hand like it has been absolutely stone their eyes do you're the eyes are being used to see or your mouth? Yeah, yeah, true. There's loads of bit that front bit this is that? This is that I Do you, your eyes are being used to see? Or your mouth? Yeah, true, there's loads of bit.

That front bit. This is, that, I'd say, I'll say, The lowest moment of our podcast is someone listening to Rob just trying to look at his tongue. Right, okay, yeah, let's move on for that. What did the teacher reply to that. She was fine with it. She was totally fine with it. She didn't reply. Could you stop calling me mate? Well I think it's weird to call someone mate when you know their name. I don't think mate's a bigger problem but hey mate. So I should have said

hey Jane or whatever her name is. Yeah. Just to be clear for list as I changed her name. That wasn't the teacher's name there. That wasn't me not the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to to to to to to the. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thee. thee. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. the sneaky little ways there. I saw what he was up to. So what did Rose say? Was she embarrassed and a shame? She just said it was inappropriate? Inappropriate, I think I think it's a bit odd, but yeah, I know. I think it's a bit odd where you, if you know someone's name, you wouldn't say to me, hey mate and an email would you? I'm just in a bad run correspondence wise. After Alex Scott and now this don't get in your own head about after Alex Scott and now this I've lost all my confidence you're all over the place yeah how's how's life going to have a kids we should catch up on that really and then do some correspondence the kids are very good roses away roses away yeah so I've been raw dog in it and doing last leg no no roses as rose went away yesterday so I find the mornings I tho i th in. Raw dog in it and doing last leg? No, no, Rose went away yesterday.

All right. So I find the mornings actually easier. You know, well no, this isn't a reflection on Rose, this is a reflection on me, just to very clear. Okay, because I can see a sneak a little smile. But fundamentally, if she's not there, it's better. No, no. If you strip back, you know, forget. No, no. What I'm saying is I quite like the, and the bedtime is the same, I like the feeling that you're just doing this and you can't get out of it. When Rosie is there. And also you can do it in

your own way where sometimes when I'm helping Lou, or if she's doing the main lot of it I go what can I do or even if I say I'll do it tonight Lou will be sometimes going well that's not the way we do it and I want to go well I'm fucking doing it now. That's your problem Rob I don't know anything about that that's your problem we're actually fine with that kind of stuff oh are you okay okay Josh interesting I that's the same like in that I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that is is I'm that that that is that that is that's that is that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's I that's I that's I that's I that's I that's I that's I that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that's the that's that's that's your issue then that's your issue. We can come to that. We're very much divide and conquer family. Yeah, no but that is the same like in the morning you're like I've just got to do all these things. Yes. It almost takes a pressure off rather than thinking could I fear in a shower. Yeah. I know that's not going to happen. The shower is totally off the tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's not going that's not going. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thou. the thoooooooooooooooo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that's it's easier in a way. Okay and have you told Rose that? No. She knows now. I'd say she doesn't feel the same when I go away. Well the argument would be though Rose and Lou's

the last 12 years. Yes and Lou and Rose do way more so we go away more and Lou and Rose do it on their own more. So it's a bit more novelty for us because we work more than they do. do. It is a bit weird isn't it? It's a bit of a holiday where it's a bit like oh I'm going to watch a sports documentary. So parenting aside when Rose isn't in the house like at night? It's an interesting one isn't it? Do you know what it is? Just at the moment you're just saying you prefer your life and roses isn't it? No, no. I actually think parenting and just socially. So, so I it's all the opposite actually, Rob. Okay, so yeah, actually Rob. So, all right mate. In a weird way you'd think parenting would be more tough because you've got more to do. Yeah, but I find that it's slightly liberating. Whereas sitting in front of the TV you'd think would be easier because you haven't got to please two people. Do you

know what it's a bit like to use a cricket analogy Rob? When the whole team has to do it all on his own? Right. And there's a freedom to his play. Yeah, yeah. Because it's just him on his own with the so there's no one on him and he plays better than if than if than if than if than if than if than if than if than than th th than th than th than th than th than th th th th th th th th th. the the th. the the the the th. th. the th. the thi thi the the the thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. You their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. You. You. You. You. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. th. th. You're th. the. th. You're the. You with the crap. It's all on you. So there's no one on him and he plays better than if he's like oh do I go for it here or you know do you know what I mean he's like I've just got to fucking do this. Right. So let's let's let's dive into this. So that is basically that there's a freedom in you have to do it... Yeah, there's not a... And you'll grind down and get on with it. But if there's soon as is a chink of light to get out of it or not having to do it. No, no, it's not get out of it, right? Okay. It's not get out of it. That's a very, that's a misrepresentation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, cool. No, no, no, I'm just just trying to think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to get it it it it to get it to get it to get it's it's it's it's it's to get it's to get it's not. It to get it's not the the the the the the the the the the the the the. It. It's not. No. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's for them because they've got a Ben Stote's centre-free. No, I'm not. But on the other side, you'd think that the evening would be a moment of glory because you've got

the TV to yourself. But I find it that the options are so great that I find it all too intimidating. Exactly. Whereas if you had three channels and it was just a movie on one, you'd like that? Yes, exactly. But that. But that. But that. But that. But I that. But I the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. But I th. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. the. the, I'm. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. But, no, I'm. But, I if you had three channels and it was just a movie on one, you'd like that? Yes, exactly. Or if I had Rose and there's only a small Venn diagram of things that we both like, yeah, that was it now. We can go, we'll just watch the Robbie Williams documentary. That's exactly what we did and it was great. Yeah, absolutely great. But I'm like, I need to be watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching watching to be watching watching to be watching watching to be watching watching to be watching to be watching watching to be watching to be watching to be watching because of, yeah, I, yeah. This is my opportunity and I just go, I'm just surfing around for hours. Yeah, and I fall to pieces in front of the TV. Miller Light.

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know it's for a finite amount of time and then when Rose or Lou gets back, we can just go, right, brilliant, I'm off, I'm out. I don't know how. Maybe, because you haven't had many single parents. We need to get more single parents I think once a chat how single parents do it and if that you can do it in your own or if you do need a support network of family or child care or friends because that's the other thing Rob yeah is that I'm suspending other things to do this and then that builds up and you have to do it when roses I'm not having to do the shop or do the one do you know everything everything I've the the the th you the parenting if that makes sense. Yeah, and then that all gets pushed to the side. However, if this is the full-time thing. Well, I'll deal with getting the car cleaned when Rose's back. Yes. And then it all gets pushed back. Yeah. I mean, will I deal with getting the car cleaned? Rob. It's in the worst state. It's in the w. It's in the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. All all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. All. All all all. All all. All all all all all all all all all all. All all. All all all all. All. All. All. All. All. All. All. All. All. All. All. All. t. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. tool. t. t. I put it on Instagram. Can you film it again please? I'll go and film it for you.

It's fucking awful. I am I still can't deal with the mornings Josh I don't know what's wrong with me. I just can't. You just don't morning person. I know I'm really not. I'll get up and do it, but I just I just can't, I'll just fall apart. And the kids are just, the back chat. This is the argument we had this morning, right? So Lou again, before she has a coffee, can... Lou, this is difficult. Lou can occasionally have, can wake up. Right. This is an open space to say exactly what happened. There's nothing difficult about it. Just give your exact interpretation of events as if Lou isn't listening. Okay, so occasionally Lou, at zero weight, that was zero thought about shall I say this or not straight in was it? So occasionally for whatever reason sometimes Luke

can wake up and there's a look in her eye and and that look tells me that she hates me. Every part of her being despises me and anything I do or say makes her feel sick and skin crawl, right? And this... She was for the Guardian. Yeah, she's a Guardian reviewer now. She, and there's nothing I can really do. And it also, so I just sort of, I used to get a bit frustrated or I used to go over the top of being a nice and polite also so I just sort of I used to get a bit frustrated or I used to go over the top of being nice and polite now I just sort of leave her to it and it just go look this that my soulmate hates me I don't say anything I just shut up and get on with my day so you know it from the moment she opens her eyes immediately from the eyes right I can just do you have to have done anything not not not to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th to to to th th th th to to th th th th th to the to th the to to to to to the to to to the to the. the the the. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I try. I try. I to just just just just. I to to toe. I just. I to to to the the. I the the th eyes. I can just... Do you have to have done anything?

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Lou had that look at her eye and she walked past me and sort of but like hit me by accident so she was like oh just try get through my coffee and I was like I and I wasn't moving I was stationary I was stationary and I know from from the road so so so if you're in the right right right right right right the right the right the right the right the right the right the right the right the right the right the right the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. the the the the the the the the the th. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was t. I was stationary and I know from the road. So if you're in the right lane and you're stationary, yeah, he ain't your insurance is going for him. You know? So I'm stationary. I've got, we both got up at our- She kind of knocks you like, like, no, no, no, no, it wasn't never good. She walked into me like starting a fight. She walked past been sort of clip me because we were closed. And like we both, Lou had got up about, we both got up, Lou had got up at half six. I'd woke up about half six, but I got up about 20 minutes, and I had a shower because

I was going to work. Louis, theyrever to make this more easy. What's that? If it was just one of you, the whole morning would have been simple. Yes, I didn't the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, the whole, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tho, I was to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th, I I to to to th. I to to th. I to th. I th. I th. I th. I was th. I was the the the their their tho, I was their their thooooooooooooo. the the the th thooooooooooooooooooooooo. I was to th. I was that was a good time to bring up that, you know, you're braver than me. Hey Rose, Josh, here, easier to live and parent without you. It's such a bit harder when I watch a doc, because I don't know what to watch. Because your demand are narrowing the search for me tonight. No, no. Yeah, well, actually, I tried to watch a program and I can't choose okay. Can we do a because after the success of our holiday vote yes we should do a vote is it easier when your partner goes away for a couple of days? It's definitely not

easyfully when I come back after being away for a couple of days. Well there's there's your answer. I'm gonna have inspired me. That's gonna be on her Instagram. Right. So she sort of knocked into me a little bit was, oh, I'm just trying to have my coffee here. I was like, okay. Just didn't say anything. Then she, because I think she was a bit wired.

Then she like, I took to my daughter and my daughter sort of rolled her eye slightly which she shouldn't have done and Lou was right to tell her off and say you're being rude but as Lou was telling her off because she was already egged up with the hatred towards me I would say it was she needed a level 5 out of 10 reaction for what my daughter did but she went in under 8.5 and sometimes when the escalations that big and no one's done anything really wrong, the kids are a bit like, well I've just sort of like not taken my plate up straight away. I'm not really, it's just a bit, I'm not really done anything with me. And then when someone's like got angry eyes, I find that quite funny and so do children. Right. So then there was a little laugh from my daughter and then I laughed a little bit because when Lou is in th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th then there was a little laugh from my daughter and then I laughed a little

bit because when Lou is in this state it is quite, it's about you, I have a laugh or you cry. Well does it, does that turn it around? Do you know what I did? I'd say a hundred percent did not turn it round. Although that could cement in a grovelly apology for me later on and potentially some flowers because I undermined her because she was telling off the kid. I was totally the wrong and I laughed. I shouldn't have but if something's funny it's funny but there's still no excuse. I was wrong to laugh. I undermined her and it wasn't helpful when she had a stressful early morning school run and I was going off to work. Is your laugh worse than what than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than than the th th the th th the th the the th the the the the the the the the the the the the th the th tho. I was thoing the the the the thoing to to to be thoing tho. I was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the kid I was totally the kid I was totally the kid I was the kid I was the kid I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was I was the the the the the the the th. I was th. I was th. I was tho. I was totlucing. I was totally totally totally totally totally totally totally totally totally totally totally too' totally tho' however, but I shouldn't have laughed, but it was, the problem

is when you get older, is the kid? Is your laugh worse than what I do? What do you do? Which I found myself doing on Saturday and I thought, that is the wrong thing to do, which which was a similar situation. Rose was on her phone, struggling, so there was a, Rose was in a bad mood, but there was a reason, which was, she needed to find, all that's fine, that's fine, isn't it?

She needed to find an email receipt for something she'd ordered, but she couldn't find any trace of the email. You know when you're in that situation? Yeah, yeah. I can't remember what it was, but one of our children did something minorly wrong and she she got, as you say, overly hyped in telling you're already annoyed. And then I, and we never use each other's names really, except when we're annoyed with each other. So what do you call? Just my hey mate? No, yes. Hey mate.

Hey mate. Do you say, whenever I say Rose, I feel like, it's like when your parent tells you off, uses your full name. I say, I'll call it. Yeah, well, so what would you say if you're not annoyed, say you want to say Rose? You just don't really use names. I just say I'm just popping to the shop. shop what you're trying to call in the house did I say Rose yeah but you were in in in chat you know those people that use names too much in chat we'd never use each other's name in a chat but I don't go Rob I've got a point to make it do you know I mean okay yeah I get what you mean Josh yeah we would do that yeah okay that makes sense yeah So you never really use a name unless you're popping out and you've gone Rose.

She was, she was hyped up because the email thing. Yeah, understandably. And you've done a teacher telling off the voice. I've got Rose, Rose. Oh, oh, no. And at the moment I did it, I thought I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I that's so undermining. Yeah. As need, and while she might have gone in, harder than... It's like, yeah, it's so passion. Let me do all this. Come in a bit, big girl. Oh God. But then it's bit like being a football manager,

isn't it? You can be, you can sort of go, look, I don't think that was right but you don't do it in front of the press. Exactly! And the kids, the crowd and the press, you do it in the locker room. Exactly. By which you mean the bedroom? Yeah. And then you resolve it with some red hot sex. Am I right? Red hot. That's too hot. I don't want my sex red hot. I don't want it red and hot. I'm burning. That's when you've thired. done too much. I've never gone argument into sex have you? Um, no, I don't think so. It happens a lot. I think maybe probably when I was younger with like relationships that you're not really properly into, but never with someone I really care about, because it's sort of that's very toxic I think. Yeah, yeah, it is toxic. Because it's like what's happening here? Talking are toxic Rob. Go on. I basically, all I'm doing at the moment is listening to Brittany Spears book. Who? Oh, but yeah, Lou read that one. She said it was good. It's a bit, they're treaty quite badly. Oh my word.

Yeah, however bad you think I was a parent, Jamie Spears, he is a piece of work, mate. Isn't Jamie Spears a sister? No, her sister's Jamie Lynn Spears. But the dad's called Jamie. And the mom's called Lynn. That's three, that is red flag central. I bet they do angry sex. Well, they've split up. But, um, classic. Yeah. Yeah. The daughter's named named the daughter is the daughter is the daughter is the daughter is the daughter is the daughter is the daughter is the daughter is the daughter is the daughter is the daughter is their. the daughter is their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. the daughter is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. th. thi. th. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. th Linspeers. That's so weird, that it. Yeah.

Imagine if you had a third kid and they were called Louise Robert Beckett. I find it, I don't mind the dad's or mom's name as middle names. We do that because it's not a nice gesture, especially if you've taken the surname. People still taking surnames because that feels a toeeauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauau. taken the surname. People still taking surnames because that feels a bit old school now, don't it, in 2023? Because we and Lou had this conversation. Well, I mean, I don't want to, do you

want to know how ours was resolved? Go on. Rose, we didn't really discuss it, and then Rose just kind of never did the paperwork. So she still rose. So she still Rose Hansen. I think Hansen's a better surname than Widdicam. What? You know that though, don't you? No, it's not. It is.

It is. It's clean. It sounds a bit more. Widdicum. It sounds like a type of bog. Well, as in to to to to to to to to the to the to to the or as in? No, like in the countryside, oh that's a Widicum, be careful, that's a Widdocum, don't take the dogs around there,

they'll get stuck in the Widdicum. You know what I mean? Like a weird country term or something? Or a Hanson? Yeah. Little posh double barrel boy. Why that's not posh is it these days? Everyone's got it. Because I think the surname do what you want. I think I don't know if you've mentioned this before. Something got me, it got in my ed Josh. Someone's talking to, I think my brother said, I was listening to podcast. He loves it when we say the same. I the same. I was saying. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. th. th. th. th. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I think. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I think. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I both said it. Oh, no. I'm panicking now.

Oh, God, I'm worried about that. I think Michael needs to keep a log of it. I think he's got enough on his plate, mate. Maybe all you already know, maybe he has got the log, but we've got nothing else. When Rose used to work on a panel show, I said, I'll cover this. She was a TV producer. She was a TV producer, yeah. And she... How did you meet? You met at work? We met at work. It's exciting, isn't it? Yeah. Did you ever get off of each other when, before it was like official like secret from everyone at work? That's quite exciting, isn't it? Just a bit. For those listening, Josh moved his glasses a bit?

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So when she working on the show you was working on directly then? Yeah. And so was you scared telling your agent? Yeah I organized a meeting with her. Right. Organized a meeting Rob. I thought I've got, yeah face to face. It's so unnecessary. I know. And I told her and I've never seen someone more underwhelmed in my life by what she, it felt like I was going to say, look, I'm quitting comedy. We'll have to quit the job, I love her so much, I'll just quit, I'll go back to working at the safe way. It was like total non-news. Yeah, they're probably knew anyway from the start. Yeah, exactly. Bless you. And that was it. So short meeting. Anyway, about getting the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that. that's that's that's that's that's that's. I was that's. I was that. I was going. I was going. that. that. that. that. that. that's. that. that's. that's. that's. that. that. that. that. that's. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's. that's. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was that. I was that. I was that. I was that.. Bless you. And then that was it. So short meeting. Oh, short meeting.

Anyway, about getting on more the week. Um, any hot chicks work on that show? Yeah, yeah. I've got myself a bit of a rep, actually. Yeah, so I basically got on TV. Yeah, so I basically got with some producers, don't the producers, don't the one, um, um, um, um, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the, the, the, the, the, about, about, about, the the the the the the the the the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the week, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, theat, theat, theat, theat, the the the the theat, the the the a sex guy actually me, but back in the TV days. Yeah, I'm got with some producers, don't worry about me. Just the one, forever. Right, should we do some correspondence?

We've been a fucking badger. Oh, sorry, yeah. I feel like we talk about everything and nothing. I know. Let's do some correspondence. Let's do a couple of correspondents. We've had a very controversial chat about people being away, which I think will be very useful to people. Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it?

And Lou, I love you to pieces and I still love you, and if you hate me, my baby girl. And Rose, I miss you and I can't find it easier to pick something to watch. Oh, can I say one more thing about Rose being away? And then we'll go on with the correspondence. Sure. So, we facimed her because my daughter was missing her. And you know when you face time the partner, and obviously your daughter, and it's happened to the other way, your daughter doesn't care where they are. Yeah. But you can see they're in a restaurant

having a lovely time. Is she on her own then working or she with me? No, she's away with her mom. She's gone down to Cornwall to sort of a load of stuff for the house. Right. And her mom's doing a picture because her mom's an artist. So mom's gone down to look at the space, which she's got to fill with the picture. Oh, she's, she's, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, is, is, is th. So, is thi, their, is thi, is thi, is thi, is their, is, is their, is, is, is a lot, is, is, is, is, is, is, is thi, is, is, is, is, is th. Is th. Is, is, is, is, is, is th. Is th. Is, is, is, is, is their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi, is a their thi, their thi, their thi. their thi. Is their their their thi. with the picture. Oh, that's nice little trip, isn't it? Very holson. I could see, I could see her eyes darting away from the screen to the other people at the table as if to go, I'm not, you know, sorry about this guys. Yeah, of course. But she's having a lovely dinner in Cornwall. Was you you were jealous or was she trying to get the phone called done? I was jealous. I was jealous. That was the one time I was jealous.

Yeah, but you can get delivered. Yeah. Is it harder to pick because Rose isn't choosing what you're watching eat? Ah, yeah. Right. Let's see. Right. Correspondent.

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empty. But then... So you got, I prefer a cubicle, to be fair. I'm not having a go, I don't want to get my pick out in a row. And then Rob, sometimes people will have a totally empty cubicle, and then I'll be stood there, about to start thinking, I'm about to do this, because no one's here. Yeah. And then someone will walk in and it'll go right back up. And I think, fuck, now I've just got to pretend I'm just finishing off and just walk out. Do you know what I do is Josh sometimes when it's empty, urinals, I try and pissing in every urinal. What?

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No, it needs to be one go. So the thing is, the only only only only only only only only only only places, the only places, the only places're always busy. They're always busy. I've been getting in two hours early. You do the Wembley tour don't you so there's no one there. Quick, Beers. Right, anyway, this is some tips if you are getting a bit of stage fright. Okay, well this is from Simon K 437 months old. A helpful hack for Josh. To come back stage right, I was once told to imagine yourself doing something incredibly embarrassing my go-to is pitch myself performing a spectacular windmill for the other bathroom occupant so a feeling of embarrassment or shame could help what how's that gonna help is that yeah yeah well try that one let's now you get on I've got one more here hi Robert I huge you related to your chat on stage fright here we go one to the poolier nerds anyways that that that that that that that th th the th th th the the the th the th the th th th the the th to to the the to to to the to to to to to to to to the to to to to the th is the to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is tho. tho. tho. tho. I the. I the. the. I go go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I go. I'm to to the. I'm the. I th. Hi Rob and Josh I hugely related to your chat and stage fright and lack of ability to use Eurreal. Here we go.

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Three and a half hour drive towards would be an to catch up some old apps. Sure. Our four-year-old twins twins twosososk. twi-twi-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o'-o-o-o-o-o-o-o'-f. Do. Doe. Doe. Doe. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do-n. Do-n. Do-n. Do-s-nn. Do-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s. Doe-s. Doe-s. Doe-s. Doe. Doe. Doe. Doe. Doe. Doe. Doe-s. Doe-s. Our four-year-old twins were safely in the back and occupied with a array of activities, Gameboys, Switch, Coloring, and of course a couple of movies downloaded on for the tablets just for it. No Game Boys Coma, Switch. They've got they've got portable consoles from across the generations. I know these guys, little retro game on the ways upon the yeah we settled into the journey. I know these guys, a little retro game on the ways of Pomkin. Yeah, we settled into the journey and a smashed try couple of episodes. We were a few minutes into the third one, when it suddenly stopped playing through the car speakers. After a bit of fiddling, it wouldn't play. So put it down to Bluetooth issue and put the radio on. About 20 minutes later, our son piped up. Mom, my tablets being weird. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. their. th. th. their th. th. th. their their thiii. thi. their thi. their thi. their thi. thi. their their th. th. thi. their their thi. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. We's the. We're the. We're theeats. theats. theats. We're theats. theats. We're thee Transvania, but the voices aren't the right ones. It was then I realized that when my son had switched on his headphones, they automatically

connected to the phone and he'd been listening to a particularly swearing episode of parenting hell. Keep up the good work from Cheryl and Sherlin's Roffler. Oh God, that can't be good for a young mind, going it? to their today, that that can't that, quick parenting hack that I found works every time and is a great way to stop tantrum being, build into a crescendo, crescendo, crescendo. Now when you see a couple of signs that your child is heading in that direction,

ask them a question that involves them having to use their memory. Can you remember what you had toast. No I did, Mum, I had porridge, etc. Apparently the part of the brain that deals with tantrums also deals with memory and they can't do both at once. Oh my word, that's an incredible check. They also love being in a position of correcting you and getting a little boost and being right such superior. Maybe that's why my kids like me so much because I'm always wrong. They're always telling me off. Rob, I've got good news. Yeah. I think if I'm going to try that a holding breath thing, I think you should try this on Lou next time she's in a mood with you. Just correct her. Well if I start saying to her she had toast for breakfast and she didn't, that will be straight

route to gas lighting. So what you should have done when Lou pushed past you. I can't stop gas lighting though. Lou pushes past you and she says I'm just trying to get past with my coffee. Yeah you go I think it's tea. That's all you got to do and it will defuse the situation. Yeah yeah that's really calm it. I think probably calmer down should go I love. That's a great technique there. So this is from Emma and Cowbridge. So basically what you do is go to memory because that deals the same thing for tantrum so part of the brain. And I'll try the breath thing and you try that with Lou this week. Okay, I'll tell Lou that she had toast of breakfast every morning and see how long until she kills. Now, Emma, I'm leaving, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm th, I'm th, I'm th, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same thi, the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same same same the same same same same the same the same the same, the same, the same the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll the same. the same. the same. ta, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, ta, ta, is ta'a, is ta'a'a'er.ea, tha. ta, the same. the same.to the Edith and no, you won't read it out, but like many others, you have really helped me, I'm going to read it out, Emma, you have really helped me get through the last couple of years and I'm a much nice and wife slash parent after listening to

you two for 40 minutes or so my husband says, sending thanks. Thank you very much. Emma from Calbush, that. to their today, to you, to you, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, their, to me, to me, their, to their, their, their, to their, I. to to to to to to to to to to their, I, Emma, I'm, Emma, I'm, I'm, Emma, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I. And, I, I. And, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. And, I, I. And, I, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I'm, I'm t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t didn't love it today, the way some of the conversations have gone. It's a bit blue today, isn't it? I should just add on that, which I thought was really nice, was I met a social worker who said, whenever she goes to see a new parent that's struggling, she recommends our podcast. I think that's great, but that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's a great but that's a great but that's Craig but this society's fucked. Shouldn't be top of the list on the midwife tips. Oh, this is another good idea, Josh. So Lou's got got me onto this. I think she

saw it on Instagram somewhere, but I don't know if I mentioned it before, if you want to get information out your kids at school, like when they come in from school but they don't tell you anything and you go how school, how school school school school school school they're they're the school school school school they're they're they're they're the school school school school school school they're they're they're they're they're they're the school school school school, they're they're their school, their school, their school, they're their, they're their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their, their. their. their. their. their. their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their. So, their. So, their, their. I's, their. I's, their. I's, their, their, their, their, to. I're, to. I're, to. I're, to. to. to. to. their, their, their. their. their. their. their. to't tell you anything. And you go, how was school? They'll go fine, right? Now the best way to get it out of them is ask them specific questions. So this goes back to a bit like what Emma said about the memory. If you go, did anything crazy happen at school's day or anything silly? Did anything make you laugh? Did anything make you confused? Then you get their stories out of them and it's what been what it's been so funny. It's the stories. It's the stories. It's the stories. It's been what it's been what it's been what it's been what it's been what it's been what it's been what it's been what it's been. Some. their. their. their. their. their. their. It's been. It's been, their. It's been, their. It's their their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their day. I do a similar thing. I ask about her friends. Yeah. So she'll go, I'll go did anything happen at school? Yeah. She'll go, not really. And then I'll go, how was, and I can use her friends now, how's Claire? And then she'll go, oh yeah we did this together, and it does, it prompts something. Yeah, no exactly. So we've it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their, it's their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their, I. I. their, I. their, I. their, I. their, I. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their their their da da da da and it does, it prompts something. Yeah no exactly so we've been a much better way rather than I always go how school they go fine you know okay yeah right let's do a small business

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