Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S8 EP40: Cush Jumbo

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant actress and writer - Cush Jumbo. Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday... and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.uk INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com NEW ALBUM OF THE SAME NAME IS OUT MAY 10TH - PRE-ORDER HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Winnockham. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern-day parenting each week we're chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with your tips, advice and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times where none of us
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Starting point is 00:00:55 Orban, can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. And Josh Wedicum. Josh, there go. There we go. There we bloody go. We got there, Josh. Claire Dockty.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Hello, you sexy and relatable pair. Thanks to the podcast. It definitely gives a lot of laughs on dog walks and long days at home with the kids. This is Morvan, my two and a half-year year old, her four-month-old brother Rory, playing quietly in the background, a rare event. Morvan is a typical Scottish redhead with a temper to match. Claire, Dundee, Scotland. I was going to say Morvan's definitely a Celtic name, isn't it? Yes. Scotland. Have you played in Malvern? Rob? Have you done Malven? Malvan. I've've a a k k k k k k k k k k k k k k a a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their thicicicicick their their thicicicicicicicicicicicicicic name thiatic name thi in their thi in thi in their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thickkkkk. ta. ta. ta. tauauauauauaua. tauauauaqaqaqa'cou-cantickaqaqa. tha., have you done Malvern on your tours at any point? Malvern! Malvern! I've gigged there. Yeah. What's that? What's the theorem? Is that? That's not near? That's nowhere near it, is it? Malvern? It's kind of Welsh borders, I think Malven. I've I've done some places in Wales. There's not a bit I ain't done. Absolutely. Great Malvan. Great. Great. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th., great Malvern. Great Malvern. Town in England.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Moul, and what was the girl's name? Mourvan? Morvan. From Dundee, Morvan from Dundee. Um, Josh. Sorry, Rob. I just, oh for fuck sake. What's wrong, baby? I've just clicked the wrong thing.
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Starting point is 00:02:51 As far as I remembered is a nice film about a dog who's slobbered everywhere Got taken by bad guys in quotation marks and in the family rescue him. Yeah, that's that's what I thought it was you tho-I tho'c-I tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-I thr-I thro-I tho-I their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. Oh. Oh. Oh. their. Oh. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that's that's thi. thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. thi. thi. that's thi. that's that's their. tb-I's tb-I's tb-I's toda' their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the that's the t it was. Josh, have you seen it? Yeah, that's what I remember Beethoven to be and then there's a sequel called Beethoven's Fourth about having puppies. Yeah, they always cashed in on a few more, but the first was classic. Now fast forward to the president, me and my sister-in-law saw the film was on Netflix and decided to re-watch it. Turns out that the bad guys were actually their their their their their their their their their their their their their their criminals their criminals their criminals were actually criminals were actually criminals were actually criminals were actually criminals were actually criminals were actually criminals were actually criminals were actually criminals were actually criminals were actually criminals were actually criminals were actually criminals who are experimenting on animals, and they wanted bait over them because he had a big skull, so they wanted to test their ammunition by shooting him in the head.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Oh my fucking God. What? That's the, there's no need for the reason to be that severe. Just say that I don't want to sell him on to a rich family that want us hurt and to their today. Save to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say I I I I I I I the the their that I thoom thoom, I thoom, I thoom, I thoom. thoomoom. thii. the thoomorrow, I's, I's, I's a thoomorrow. thoomorrow. thoomorrow. thoomorrow. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thoomfoomfoom.. thoomfoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoooomorrow. that's. that's toooooto lay your children to watch but given I didn't clock what was happening when I was a child maybe certain things to go over your head. Thanks. So there's such a good example of how you're more are you more worried about how it's going to affect your children than your children themselves are affected by Josh I've watched am I'm the jury is still okay? that that's that the jury that that the jury that the jury that's that's that's that's the jury that's that's that's the jury that's that's that's that's that's that's thory. I've that's that's that's th. I've that I've that I've that I've thi that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that I've that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the tho. tho. tho. the tho. the tho. thoooo. thoo. tho. thooooo. I've thoooo. I've that's. Is this generation, this absolutely anxious
Starting point is 00:04:05 crippled generation still okay? And do you think it's all down to Beethoven? Yes, I do actually. That big fucking slobbery mess with his big old skull. Now, another, this is another one. Following on from the scary film chat, when it was about five, my dad thought it would be funny to let me watch scream. Whoa, I mean, that's not, that is a clear error. That's more boomer parenting that than the actual film. The next day when we all came home from school, followed my, we followed my mom into the kitchen and my dad was stood in the garden with a leather jacket and a scream, holding a kitchen knife up at the window. Oh, for fucks the f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f. the the the that's the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's that's a that's a that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that is... that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. that's the theee. that's that's the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that, for the fuck sake. Fucking hell. Poor Rachel.
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Starting point is 00:05:10 to finally have something to email about. Still recording the screen. I thought I'd got rid of it. Does this affect what we're doing Michael? No it's fine. No it's fine. Okay, okay. That's okay. Okay. just in general, like, could me and you just do it, Michael? Do we need him? Increasing me. I mean, they, because, you know, I love Josh, but do you know what? I love more? Half of a third. I think, we're not far away. If I write two pages of script and got him to them to read it out, we could just use an AI Josh. Yes, there we go. Yeah, that. Yeah, that's. I. I. Yeah, that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I'. that's. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. just use an AI Josh. Yes. There we go. Yeah, that'll be good. I've got enough. Oh my god's in the camp. Oh my god. Let me show this for for sure. Just get like, you know, like Woody? We're getting dull of Josh that you pull the string and instead of someone poison the waterhole, it goes, kind of, let me, let me show let me show that for free. thi. I, I, I, I, th. I, th. I, th. the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. Oh, to. to. to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, t. Oh, to. Oh, to email about, but I bet I'm not the only one to share this nugget, no pun intended, of information with you about nappies. Regarding recent episode, in bracket, season 8, episode 35th, doesn't help us.
Starting point is 00:06:15 That's too many, isn't it? That's like Seinfeld. Eight series, who were on the 35th of eight? Jesus, where you thoroughly discussed a disposal of poo in various forms. Did you know that you should empty poo into the toilet, then dispose of the nappy? What? I've never, I've just, yeah, but they're not. Stuck to it often. What kind of dehydrated, dry log shit so your kids are knocking out? Mine is, I'd say the poo and the nappy are one together with my children,
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Starting point is 00:07:45 Please can you use your normal, not normal barometer to help resolve a long-running argument between myself and my husband. Brushing your teeth in their own mouth. I think it's clearly, have you got an immediate thought on this, Josh want me to read out Scarlet and bright and are the hot water in their own mouth? Right, let me finish this. I think it's clearly something only an absolute psychopath would do.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Who brushes their teeth with hot water? But my husband is adamant, is completely normal. Thanks to laughs, keeping us sane whilst we attempt to parent a daughter in the midst of the terrible two, stay sex and relatable to Scotland. Now Josh, what's your immediate feedback here? I wouldn't want the hot water in my mouth, but it's a bit like when your children put water from the bath in their mouth and you think, I know it's wrong, but really it's fine. I'm sure you can get a shower water in your mouth. I don't see you're saving that much time. Water-wise, are you swilling your mouth by opening your your mouth and facing up and letting it rain into
Starting point is 00:08:45 your mouth? Oh, God, that sounds horrible. I used to love a shower beer before a night out. Yes, but I did as well, but I think that sort of points to finger at deeper problems. I certainly did. As it turned out, but... I think when you're in that kind of headspace and I've been there as well Anywhere is good with a beer The old shower beer the bus beer pre-dreams beer the afters beer the barbecue beer
Starting point is 00:09:16 sat on the sofa beer sat on a bench beer line down in my own sick beer you know there's divorce courts beer divorce beer But yeah I used to love that, but I worried about the shower water getting in the beer, did it really matter, not enough. I think it's the heat more than anything. Brush your teeth in the shower, you know, if you're having a cold shower, if you're doing a Wimhoff style shower, fine. Were you the the toothbrush and the toothpaste in the shower? I think hot water and brushing your teeths unacceptable.
Starting point is 00:09:49 If he's having a cold shower, I'd let him off, but even just not in the shower, hot water and brushing your teeths weird, I think. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Do you want dead cat disaster Michael. Yeah we got her. Dear Rob, Josh and sexy Michael. We too once owned two identical black cats. Four weeks into the lockdown when our girls Bronwyn and Holly were 60 months and 26 months old. One identical black cat died unexpectedly. We were horrified that so soon after taking away school slash nursery and any form of human contact apart from
Starting point is 00:10:21 with ourselves, we were now going to have to give them their first experience of pet death. We struggled to know what to say, so we didn't mention it for a few days to gather our faults. Imagine our smugness when the days turned into weeks and it turned out that our girls just didn't notice. Oh my God! just didn't notice one of the cats have gone. We had dodged the bullet we thought. Job done and everything was great or so we thought until seven months later when the other black cat died. Oh no. Now face was telling them that both black cats had died earlier smuggness disappeared.
Starting point is 00:10:55 We didn't know how to explain that both cats had died or hows and wise. So we needed up we ended up telling them both cats had laid down in the garden and died together. Oh. To our astonishment, they both accepted that. Of course, they're five and three. Thus proving that children probably believe anything you tell them. I'm sure in years to come, they'll ask me if the cats really did die in this way. Just in the same way, I asked my parents when I was in my 20s if our Chihuahua Pepe had really gone to live on the farm.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Please, never stop the podcast. I hope to grow older you guys, the material will never stop. Before we know it, we'll all be grandparents and their children will talk about how we need to be persuaded to go into a care home. Lots of love Caroline, age 5 136 months. Brilliant. Brilliant. Thank you for all your emails. Keep them coming in. But now we have a guest. Lovely guest. Michael, who's the guess? Cush Jumbo? Oh, it's Cush Jumbo. Great guest. We love this one. We love Cush Jumbo. She's brilliant. This is a superb episode with a superb human being. This is Cush Jumbo. Hello. Hush Jumbo. Hello. They's. Tthis is this is th. This is th. T This is th. T This is a th. T This is a th. T This is a th. T This is a th. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. Tis. T. T. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. th.jumbo. Hello. There's the intro. That's it done. Thanks for doing this. We're very excited. Thanks for having me. It's so nice to come on something. to come on something where you can like actually talk about real stuff rather than just your hack thing all the time. Oh yeah, like when you have to go on the one show. And if you're doing something that's quite deep. It's a a a the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. to th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. That's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeeeeeeeeee. theee. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th's quite deep, you have to go like, yeah, well, it was a very difficult thing to portray and stuff, but you can be yourself here and say what you want.
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Starting point is 00:13:12 Right, okay. So you have to call it that when you're working on it. Does Tenants say Mookbeth? We also make a leg. Also break a leg. You can't say good luck. Yeah I think it's one of those things that's like wrapped up in Victoriaana somewhere like maybe you know what like saying the word or they were like they were like people won't know what the players about how will we invite people to come to see it? How will people know what it is? Macbeth means nothing. We'll call it the Scottish play and people they'll know it their set in Scotland you know like how my show. the show the show the show the show the show the show they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're like people they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're like they're like they're like they're like they're like they're like like. they're like like like. they're like like like. they're like like like. they're like like like like. they're like like like like. they're like like like. they're like like. they're like like. they're like. they're like. they're get it. I was like all these deep names we could call our show,
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Starting point is 00:14:06 20 moments from 2024. Anyway, you've got children, Cush, or a child? Yeah, calm down there. I've got one. Just one. One. What age we deal with, Cush? Don't speak for my womb. Yes, I've got one child called Maximilian. Oh, lovely. It's just turned six yesterday. Oh.
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Starting point is 00:15:46 Amazing. And then Pizza Hut was literally opposite. It's almost in one of those like industrial parts where it's like, seeing the world come out. Yeah. Oh, brilliant. Great birthday. And then it was all set up.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I stupidly thought that there'd be somebody that's like that that that that that that the then some some some some some the controllers and like doing stuff. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. And I also thought, in a fucking cinema? In the cinema. And I also put, if there's eight controllers, then obviously every game can be played by eight kids. This is not the case.
Starting point is 00:16:18 No. So some of it had to be sharing or getting into teams, as I called it. Oh God. I ended up having to have it to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to to have to to to to to to to the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their liked. I their liked. I their liked. I their liked. I their liked. I. I th. I th. I. I tr. I. I. I tr. I c. I c. I tr. I. I. I. I. I to. I to. I their. I their. I their as I called it. Oh God. I ended up having to orchestrate most of the party and I think he really enjoyed it and his mates really enjoyed it but I booked that so I would have less work to do. Yes. So I wouldn't have to pass the parcel and all the rest of it and actually I ended up giving myself a job like I was I was basically the button's rep for about four hours. Where did you plug in a switch in a cinema? Where are where are where are the wire are the wires the wires the wires the wires the wires the wires the wires the wires. Where are the wires the wires the button's rep for about four hours. Where did you plug in a switch in a cinema? Where are the wires?
Starting point is 00:16:48 Wireless. So you're in this cinema with eight kids on your own. Was it a drop-off party or were their parents there as well? Drop-off. Fucking out, mate. Oh my god. I had one or two of my like mom friends stay. I have a very small mom friend circle. And they immediately they me rosé as soon as the bar opened so you see I was
Starting point is 00:17:09 struggling. They kind of stoked me and said it's okay the bar I was at 11th I just went out got me rose genuinely that and I know it sounds bad I don't want to be frowned upon but like even on holiday with the kids it can like after a few days it is just non-stop in the pool, running here, running there. And they're like, I want to do this, and then they argue over who gets to flow, and you know, it's just classic kid stuff. We're in a holiday at home, they're always bickering. But when it gets like, like, thrown, I've had, like, I'll just get a little bit. It does, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I. to. to, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr. tho. tho. th. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. th. th. th. th. th. the but do you know what? Imagine if you went to pick up your kids from school and the teachers like come midday it got tough mate I've ever had a I go I'd have a couple of beers this afternoon sorry have you ever walked in towards being one of the early parents to pick up which I'm not there every day like a nanny that helps me as well but sometimes I go and I just catch the energy as I hit the door and she's releasing them back into the
Starting point is 00:18:08 world you know when they get to the door and they go yeah that's your one that's your one when they just frown about and you get there and you catch their energy of like you look in that's a lot of little energies in one close I'm not doing you down here but you've just gone I had to look after eight children and you had a Nintendo switch you didn't have to teach them anything I'm one of six and I consistently think about like what the hell my parents like how they were coping With all two years apart, so it's just like a class of children constantly
Starting point is 00:18:51 I don't know how they weren't drunk When you've grown up did you just sort of like break off into little sections of the siblings like the sort of the younger three and the older three or? Yeah because we were also we were two girls. We were two girls two boys two girls and we were in bedrooms together? two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two years. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. two. two. two. two. two. two. two. two. two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two twothree or... Yeah, because we were also, we were two girls, two boys, two girls and we were in bedrooms together a lot. And me and my big sister we danced a lot, we did a lot of like dance, in fact my dance school was in Motenum actually. I was it was called Cooper School of Dance. It was called Cooper School of Dance. It was like a cupert school school school of to the school of to the school to to the school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school school to dance to dance to to to to to to to their their their their to to to two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two boys two boys two boys two boys two boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two two to to to to to to to to two boys. two two boys two two boys to to to two boys to to to their their the United States. It was always, I was always like, broken glass, always broken glass by tap shoes to get in front door. Yeah, Martinham's a bit lively for a kid to go dancing. Yeah, like grinding on the floor of community centers a lot when I was six or seven.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I remember going to a party when I was 15 I was sick outside a church in a bush in Mottinem? I grew up. I the the th. I, by the massive Sangreys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, but you mean the Saber Centre, it was called Saver Centre, it was called Saver Centre, it was called the Savings, but it was huge, i that, biggest, that is biggest in the country. This a time when you only used to get food from supermarkets. Yeah, yeah. And then there came a time where you could buy televisions in supermarkets. Yeah, and socks and stuff and that was the first time that happened in Sydney was Save Centre. Yeah, and you get those toys and it was DVDs and it's great. Loved it. Yeah. Get yourself down there, Josh. Well, I've got a connection to you dancing in Mottingham with your sister. My wife went to the Brit school with your sister. Oh, she was in my sister's year.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah. Oh my gosh, what did she study? Oh God, I don't know. She said she just smoked and took herself andtrained you up for being the creative industries really. Just smoke and smug it up a bit. Yeah, she said she was there with Amy Winehouse. They had a bit of a thing because they had the same coat. But she was acting.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And you might say, what was her biggest role? And she auditioned for the advert for Moore Magazine that Billy Piper got where she burst the bubble. Wow. That's her big acting story. That was quite a big magazine though at the time. So shove you Macbeth up your ass mate. I know right. I was once down to the last two for a cheese strings advert when I was 11. Really interesting. Which is a big distressing when I watched the ad but it was one way all the kids were like dancing on the street like this going, Ben me, shake me any way. Oh yeah, I love that. Some of the kids were doing back flips in it. Yeah. What's distressing about that is they made it sound like oh you were down to the last three like as if they picked one but actually when you watch it there's about about............ the the the the the last. the last. the last. the last. the last. the last. I. the last. I. the last. the last. I. the last. the last. the last. the last. the last. th. th. th. th. th. the last. th. th. th. the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah................................................................................................... the...... the. the. the... the. the. the. the... the. the. the. the. the. the. the. watch it, there's about 35 kids. So essentially,
Starting point is 00:21:45 I just didn't make it. Top 40? Top 60, yeah. So you got down to the last 40 for that job. You know, every commercial audition when you were a kid back then in the 90s when no one knew what they were doing was you popped to CNA just get something good to wear. And then you went there and they would literally just put on pop this and to to to their to their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. their. their. their. their. their. So, their. So, their. So, their, they they they they they're to get their, to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get. So, to get. So, to get. So, to get. So, to get. So, to get. So, to get. So, to to to to to their. So, their. So, their. So, their. So, their. So, their. So, to their. So, their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to there and they would literally just put on poplitz and go, okay kids, you like cheese, have a good time. And it would just be kids in a room just. Yes. Oh my God. And then they go, you, you, you're through. Is there things you've auditioned for when you've seen who it's gone to, you've gone, you've
Starting point is 00:22:16 got to be fucking kidding me. Yes. I've got five, I'll just say yes. Yes, and I'll say that yes and yes and we'll leave that. Do you still have to audition or have you reached the stage where you don't have to audition? You've got an OBE? I mean, this is, you can make me sound like a proper job. I mean, I don't think that gets you an acting job straight, I've got an OB, imagine that shouting that at them. All, all. that, all. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, that, that, that, I, I that, I th th th th th th thi, I thi, I tho, I th th th th th th th th th th th th, I'll th, I'll th th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I'll th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I'll thi, I'll thi, I'll thin, and I'll thin, and I'll thi thin, and I'll thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' thi, and I shouting that at them. Alright, all right, when I'm Rob, chill out, it helps. It does help. Does it? Right, I need to get one. What have I got to do? I'm joking, yeah. I think I would
Starting point is 00:22:50 say... What was your OBE for? Services to Acting or is it charity work? How do you get yours? Because some slip the net with charity work, don't they? It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it. It's, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's their, it's their, I's their, I'm their, I's, I's, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I'm their, I've their, I've, I've, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I their, I their, I their, I've their, I've their, I've th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. to th. to th. to th. th. th. to th. tho. th. tothat's the better one. No, I'm joking, no, it was for services to international drama. So it was for work I've done in the UK and work I've done in the US. Hopefully, well, congratulations. I think that the last five or six years, I've been really, I hate saying this word, yeah. I make your own luck. Make my luck. I think because I have tried to, probably like you guys have actually,
Starting point is 00:23:30 like I've tried to begin to think about how I want to spend my time with the work I do, it takes a lot of time. I've become more involved in the work that. And because it's becoming more more more more more more more more more more involved more more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved more involved in it. Most of the jobs I do have either developed from the beginning or I come up with the idea for and then it's a mixture of that and then people coming to me to say would you like to do this? So I would say like the last five or six years I haven't auditioned at all but I don't know and I think you know people be like oh god that's not so to be so terrible for you kush but I definitely I'm not an actor that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th school and shot into the stars. Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm an actor that came out and like, worked a million jobs,
Starting point is 00:24:06 did all the tiny, tiny part and really paid my due. So I feel like I deserve not to audition anymore. Yeah, I do. I do. Right. Would you like your son to be an actor? Hmm. Having been through it, do you go, oh, it's a tough old gig this. Honestly I think I should we get this answer all the time. I growing up in Zedim and Lois I had a very loving parents, we had very little money and dance
Starting point is 00:24:34 was really like the only thing we could do because it was a cheapest thing to do. And I would have liked the opportunity to have tried out a few more things. I would love to play instruments. I would love to have to have to have to have to have the to have the to have the to have the the the to have tried out a few more things. We'd love to play instruments. I would have loved to have swimming classes. I would love to travel. So I used to kind of fantasize about all the other things I could do. And I think that went into my imagination and probably made me do what I do.
Starting point is 00:24:57 But I think in the long run, if he decides that acting is his thing. I mean, listen, what's annoying is that like however much you try to shake them in something, we put them in a good school, we do this, we get them a tutor, or you, you can't, they are who they are. Yeah. My son, yesterday, spent hours putting together like towers of things and then throwing ninja stars at them and making me record him in slow-mo while he introduced himself at the beginning and bowed out at the end. Now I didn't ask him to do that. If I try to say to him, this isn't that fun for me. Evidently he's decided that he wants to film himself doing those things. He also like he memorizes his books, he loves poetry, he's good with a joke. So you can try to like, you know, twist and turn them. I just want him to be happy and not feel like he feels pushed into a job where he hates what he's doing with his life. Yeah, mostly. So if he's not very good at acting, that will be a bit harder for me. Yeah. Yeah. Bring in the jumbo name into disreput. Yeah. Because I in the mud, yeah. No, because I think also... We'll have our OBE back actually, we've seen you, son.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yeah, yes. And why don't we use your dad's name? Stuff like that, yeah. You know, because you can be your own person, darling. You can be your own person. Yeah, you can to do this picture by herself. Just step back. Oh, but surely that your worst nightmare is sat in a school hall watching the school play and you're the actor and then your kids not the best. That must
Starting point is 00:26:38 be, there's a lot of pressure on them and you isn't there I suppose. Yes, think so I mean I found the other thing that happens at school is obviously I'm the actor at the school yeah so there's a lot of things that suddenly end up happening to you I'm sure it happens to you cut like you know you're always asked for auction items and yeah yeah yeah yeah and you got to be really nice to everyone you know you know talk about and you can I take a different approach to Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh Josh I to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the gate, you know, talking about and you can. I take a different approach to Josh. Josh has done about 15 school quizzes already. Well done, well done. I'll give them a few tickets for a raffle, but that's all I'll do. Yeah, I give them some tickets and then I time my pickups and drop-offs really well.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I know exactly what time I want to be involved in the PTA? Nope. It's as easy as it is. No, thank you. No, thank you. No, you're right. It would be terrible, to have a kid in the school play. It was terrible. Rob, would you like, to do a comedy night to raise money for this? Nope.
Starting point is 00:27:34 No, I wouldn't. I just feel like, just I'm filming or I'm away or I just go, how much you need? I always say, how much you need? I think that's key though, isn't it, like, whatever our kids or anyone's kids end up doing, if you were in a position to offer them options, like you say, you didn't try that many things. So I'd end up doing stand up, but I did football at school, but I don't feel like I really, there weren't a million different clubs you could do or things that you might be talented out. I don't think I went to one after school club as a kid. I don't think I ever went to after school clubs. I don't even know if they even exist. What did you do after school Josh? Play a watch TV or my own. Yeah I mean that's what we did though isn't. I think also the world is so different now like the world. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the world. I the world. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. I the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world. the world is. I the world is. I the world is. I the world. I the world. I the world. the waited at home for the next day to begin. The world is so different now like in terms of as well what you're actually trying to prepare them for, right? Like it's
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Starting point is 00:30:13 And tell me about yourself. Tell me about, say what's up Ben? Well I can calculate pie to the nearest uh, no. That's Joel Dommet's got pie tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattoo tattooed to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to to be to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that to be to be to be to be to be to beommet, he can do that. Joel Dommet's got pie tattooed on his arm, hasn't he? To an insane amount of places, like decimal places. Is he married? He is. He is. He's a marriage, Joel. He's got a tate that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:36 But you've got to remember he's a nerd whereas with Joel they're like oh he's got hidden debts this beef cake. This beef cake's cucky. Yeah this beefcake's kooky. Anyway lovely bloke. What's your boy into then he sort of likes his switch but like is he doing clubs or is it you know he's getting you filming him doing ninja stars? He does a bit of yoga on a Monday, he likes the yoga. I think mainly because they now do yoga stories of everything. So he does Mario Yoga, Ninja Turtle Yoga. Right. How it works is usually they take the normal yoga poses but they kind of put them into a version of the character. So then the kid goes through a story over
Starting point is 00:31:19 20 minutes and really they'll end up doing all these yoga poses, but they they're like fighting shredder. Oh that's cool. Oh so it could be like Mario goes into a mushroom to get ready to a tank. It's like oh now you're jumping between and quick you've climbed up to the to get your power up you better hold on this and now we're making the mushroom and stuff like that. Oh, that's amazing. Oh that's great. Oh, that's great. That's great. That's great. That's great. That's great. That's great. That's great. That's great. That's great. That's great. That's great. That's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that. Oh. Oh. Oh, that's that. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, that's that's that's that's that's that's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great. Oh, that's. Oh, that's. Oh, that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's that's that's that's a that's that's the the the that's the the the the the the the the the the the six. All the things that your son does, I don't want to do. He loves his animals. I've got a really old toy poodle called Henry, who's basically like a over a hundred because he's 16. And he's still going, he's just had cataract surgery because he's very frisky other than being very old. And he was kind of, his eyes completely whited out. And he just started to say frisky. Yeah, when when he's, he's, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's th. He's th. He's got th. He's got th. He's got th. He's got th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, he's thi, thi, thi's thi's thi's thoooooooooooooooooooooooo' th. He's got th. He's got out and he just started to say it's very frisky. Yeah, when I say frisky, he doesn't go around shagging. He's not like a purvey old man. Oh right, I was gonna say that's why his eyesight when he's still wanking. It's like Michael Winnow or you have to know one of those kind of old shag room. And then I've got, I just got a kitten called Squeak, Right. Who Max loves, he loves his two cats. Although I'm noticing with the, sorry,
Starting point is 00:32:29 this is the geriatric dog trying to get in my office. I'll bring the dog in. Hello, Henry, that's a very cute dog. How small. Oh, Henry. Henry, they're over there. And he's really with it. He don't even look that old. Oh my God, he's so small. He looks like a puppy. I know, he's very small. He's lighter than a cat. and just kind of go like he definitely can't remember why he came in and you kind of you just go around a bit and then go but the kitten I found it quite interesting because I don't have you have pets but it's like having a kitten I've got an older cat as well tells me what it might be like if I ever had a
Starting point is 00:33:21 second kid right because I've been very like, I've been so much more blase with his kitten than I was ever with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you are. It's a tiny kitten. And I come in and I'm like, oh where's on something and you fall off and you're just like, you're out squeak? Yeah, good. And you just continue on, which is just so different to how I was. You're sort of chilled out person from my experience of you. I can't imagine you being an uptight parent.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Were you an uptight parent? No. I would call myself a pendulum parent in terms of I'm extremely fun yeah or I can be quite strict but more more extremely fun than strict like if you invite me around for a playdate with my kid or you invite me to a birthday party you are not gonna find me talking to the parents right you're gonna find me on the bouncy castle or really or being like the barrier in the middle of the soft play mainly because I, I prefer hanging out with
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Starting point is 00:37:37 He's a bit off-cent right. He's great. He's nuts so, isn't he? I had him on smart TV because you came on smart TV as well because that's when we first fucking fit he's so good looking yeah yeah he is in real life yeah I had him down as a bit of sort of a nerdy little guy but when you meet him like oh you're very attractive man yeah yeah yeah you're incredible yeah you just kind of gangly kind of you know your mates mate kind of thing you know he that in a very professional way. Of course, of course.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Yeah, of course, absolutely. I've got to ask you kind of hinted at that. Have you, without naming names, what's it like to be in a show where you hate someone you're acting with? The which must have happened, right? Well, that's only happened to me a couple of times when I haven't been in control of casting. Now I have a general kind of asshole-free zone rule where I do a lot of background checks on people. So even if they're like a hidden narcissist or like a hidden charmer who actually says that's
Starting point is 00:38:56 horrible. It's really hard because it feels like one of those married at first site shows where they go now we've paired you with I don't want in Australia that same because that's one I love it now we've paired you two together we know that you're not physically attractive but we'd like you to try to find something about you like the right come I'm just saying and what you have to do is but especially if you've got to do sex scenes with them yeah yeah you can get away with a talking scene with someone you hate. You just do it right. When you start taking your clothes off, rubbing your body up against them, right? And you hate them, not hate anyone, but let's either get on, they drive you mad a bit, or you find them to be smug or rude, whatever, disrespect. They've said something.
Starting point is 00:39:37 They've thrown a mug of coffee runner gets fired. Let's just say that. And then you've got to have sex with them on TV. When you've got to do that, there's no way out of it, right? You're on set the contract, there's 200 people around you. You can't start calling your agent saying, I want to get out of this. Actually what you've got to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do it, is succeed to do their to do to do their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their. to do, their. to do, their. their ssexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxiii. todaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxi. thoxxxxxxxi. the. the. the. don't want people to be thinking, why does Cush look so uncomfortable? You want people to think, oh, that scene was so hot, I thought you really liked each other, that would be success. So you have to kind of find something like they say on Marriott First Sight that you like about them. It could be just that they have nice eyelashes or nice ears or they walk in a straight line or just find, just find, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, the same, their They're my three main things that I like about little me personally. You've got to think about those things intensely and it kind of creates a liking energy.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Oh, those fucking ears, can they? Yeah. I like his quiff. I like his quiff. Bring them ears to me in a straight line you being a bastard. And your grain starts to kind of replicate what you're concentrating on so that it becomes more positive and then you stop thinking about all the negative things, just long enough
Starting point is 00:40:53 for you to kind of, you know, do a lot or whatever. You've got a gaslight yourself into liking them. Yeah, you have to have a toxic relationship of yourself just to do it. Yeah exactly. How do you feel on that about your son watching a racy scene with you in? Like what age would you allow that? My son, this was the first month in his life, he's ever seen anything that I've done, which because I directed a children's show at Regent's Park, which is called Bear Snow's on. And that was the first things everyone able to come to see that I made. Other than that it's been to set a lot. I've tried to kind of show him that I'm famous and important. He tends to ignore me on set and I tend to ignore me. And I'll say things like look look over here Max that's me number one on the tool she the other way way way way way way way way to to to the other the. Can you see these people how they're respecting me?
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Starting point is 00:42:06 at the morning yeah yeah so far he hasn't watched anything not just because of the raciness but I think most of the stuff I do it's less the sexy stuff and more the I did quite dark drama I do quite traumatic stuff which I really enjoy doing but he would have been differentiate whether mom's being beaten up or whether she's beaten, you know, that's the answer. When would be the right age? I mean, fucking hell. Do you want your kids to watch anything you do? When would you want your kid to come across a video of you shagging someone? I don't, I don't know if's never going to happen with your kids. Well, apparently kids do, I mean, these days apparently, you know, they, he's going
Starting point is 00:42:47 to hit eight or nine or ten, he's going to begin to realize, I'm told, this is around the age they start to realize why people are stopping you and made the school's take a picture. Yes. Yeah. So my daughter's eight and no tha tha th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's that, that, that, thi, that, that, their their their their their their their their their their their their their they, they, they, they, they, they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's, they's, they's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that. that that that that that that that that that that. that. that, that, that, that, thelly and undrag yet. I'm sure it'll pop up at some point. Would you do say a walk-on part in something like I don't know what the equivalent is that he'd be into but like Waffle the Wonder Dog or whatever. Have you? He loves Waffle the Wonder Dog. I've asked repeatedly to read the bedtime story on CBBC. Have you not done the bedtime story? No I'm dying to ask they're not responding to me, don't know what's going on. Because he'll get too old soon. Yeah. What the fuck's going on with them?
Starting point is 00:43:30 And also, I've got an OBE, come on, come on, guys. What do you want? What do you want from me? I'm going to find out who's been doing it. I would walk into anything he loved and also, you know, voices on cartoons and stuff. Yes. He knows my voice really well. So if you were offered like the voice of a teacher on Pepper Pig or something like that. Oh, he'd love that. Yeah, that's not Pepper pig, but like Bluey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Chris Kamara has done it. to the bedtime story. Yeah, I love Chris Kamara, but he's no Cush Jumbo. So many, so many people have done it. Chris and Rosie, no offence, but fuck off Chris and Rosie. Get Cush Jumbo on. You're about to get to my name, so let's move on.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Now, have you done it? Yeah, I've done it. Yeah, I've done it. Yeah, I have done it. Tom Hiddleston hasn't even got kids, has he? Harry Stiles, hasn't got kids. Cush. Howie. Cush Jumbo for bedtime stories.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Yeah. I reckon, I reckon you're going to get that email within a week of this going out, surely. It might be that like this is the first thing I've had feeling like a really bad mom now, Rob, so could you stop? Okay, so sorry. One achievement I can't do for him. Josh, who booked you? What my agent? Because she's a bigger booking in you? Yeah, alright, fine. No, I got in, um, because I've got the same agent as Romish. So that's how I got in most places? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the th. th. th. th th th th th. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thooo. tho got the same age as Romesh. So that's how I got it? Is that how you get in most places, Rob? Is that how you make a book in a Pizza Express? Exactly. Because that's how we do it.
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Starting point is 00:47:27 So I certainly like just didn't sleep. Oh my God. Was this in New York still? Yeah, in New York still? But I think it also does make you wake up and go, right, what do I want my life to look, and to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be, and to be, and to be, and to be, and to be, and the the the the their, and their, and their, and their, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, their and I just, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tie?, tiefo, tiefts, teatrowne, teatrowne, teateatrowne, teang., teatsk., tooomorrow, threathea, and sleep and everything cost something? Like, doing this series will take me away from him. I love doing less pickups and drop-offs in that period. And then I'll get a full week off and I'll spend every waking second with him. Yeah. Then I'll get six months off and I can take him away, and we can do that.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And then I'll have to work again, but it's like I can't feel guilty about the time I don't have with him or the work that I'm not doing if I choose to take time off. Like that is what it cost to have that. Yeah. Yeah. Because you start going like I'm losing this and I'm losing that and you don't really win anything. What I will say is that in order to keep working the middle you always miss is like there's no you time. Yeah yeah that's the bit that goes. Some twitter at a dinner party once it was making some like some jealousy joke about you know my career or whatever I didn't know them very well and they're like well you know it's all right for you because like you've got you've got a nanny I get. When the nanny arrives, I leave. I work hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and sometimes for days and days and
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Starting point is 00:49:53 And then I felt a bit better, but I was still hands to myself. Look none of doing anything. I can do anything I can do anything I want with them. I can hold things. Look I can hold things, I could text people. When I first had a baby, my friend who already had two kids said to me, congratulations, blah, blah, blah. Text me the first time you pretend to go to the to the toiletoiletoileto to go toyto go te te te te te te te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. tho. I tho. I th th th thi. I th thin, thi. I can't thin. I can't th th th tho. I can't hold tho. I can't tho. I can't th. I can't th. I can't th. I can't th. I I I I I I I I I I I I th. I I I I I I I th. I th thin, I I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin. I thin. I thin. I thin. I te. I te. I can't te. I can't te. I can't te. I can't teat teat te. I can't te. I can't te. I can't te. I can't te. I can't th be with your phone by yourself. I was like, oh yeah, ha ha ha, yeah, that happens. Like, just to give yourself a couple, just a couple minutes to yourself. Yeah, just to do what you can do. Yeah, that's the bit you lose, I think. Here's a question of both of you that I've been struggling with.
Starting point is 00:50:39 So I'm kind of back-gigging now, doing stand-up. What's back-gigging? I'm back-gigging. I'm gigging. I'm gigging again. He just turns his back to the audience. I'm sorry, I was like a phraseology. Like, so I'm back-gigging. I'm back-gigging. Obviously I do front-gigging, and then I'm going out a lot of like 6 p.m. or whatever and then my daughter
Starting point is 00:51:09 More so than my son is like I don't go don't go. I don't want you to go And I don't want to go. I'd prefer to stay obviously in that situation But I'm also going I don't know whether I should be painting work as this this today thi that's taking me away or whether I should be saying I don't want it to be like to go go go go go go go go go to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. I'm the the they. I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm to work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work work I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not to be taking me away or whether I should be saying I don't want it to be like I've got to go because I'm paying for this so it's like I don't know how to style. Don't do that. No don't do that. I have to leave because of you and now you're upset and I'm upset so what was a fucking point of having you but I don't know how to style I'm going out if you know how to. Yeah, I'm the former, I suppose because I'm probably more used to, I suppose when you're gigging, it's like you have, do you have like a tranche of them and then you have a bit of time off for you have a kind of a section of them. No, I'm only doing one or two a week at the moment, but then obviously when you go on tour it's like. I mean, first of all, first of you, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, first, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you have, you have, you should, you should, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, thi, thi, thi, thi. It's like, thi. Do thi. Do throooan, thi. Do throoan, thi. It's like, last forever. There will come a time when they don't even know that you've gone and they hope that you'll leave. So do you think I should look her in the eye and go enjoy this, this is love and one
Starting point is 00:52:11 day we won't have this. No, I'm trying to make you feel better. But what I have had to force myself to, so first of thi th th th th th th th thi thi thi first thi first of I I make I make I make, I make, I make, I make, I make, I make, I make, I make, I make, I make, I make, I make, I make, I make, I make, tho, tho, tho, tho, thr-I thr-a, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, that, that, that, that, thr, thr, thr, thr, thr. throooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo away from him for at least three or four nights because of the hours I can't get home or if I can I'm getting like two hours sleep yeah so he knows when I get my script books out he knows the week before what's gonna start happening and I get him to be part of that he helps me pack my he knows what pens I like I say to my what should I take in my snack bag so he knows it's to be to be to be to say to him, what should I take in my snack bag? Like, what am I going to put in my, so he knows it's coming and he gets a bit anxious about stuff anyway. So he knows he's coming, he knows he's going to miss me. And then eventually, of course, there's always that bit where I'm going to go and he's
Starting point is 00:52:52 like, I don't want you to go it and I'm just going to go for this period of time and then I'm going to come back and I'm going to miss you too but I think it is important that they can differentiate you between dad and awesome call performer like it's important you are not just like there to service them to resume. Yeah yeah not in a trash way but I think if you do a whole I don't want to go either either. I their their to to go. I to to to go. I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the their to to to to to to to to to their to to to to to they're to to they're to they're they're they're they're they're they they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they their their their their to their to their their their their their to their to to to try. to try. I to me to to me. I to to to to to to to to to to their they're they're they're they're they're theyash way, but I think if you do a whole lot, I don't want to go either. I hate it. I don't know, yeah. What if the audience doesn't like me? Yeah, they also start to go like, well, where's your power, Daddy, then? If you don't want to go, why are you going?
Starting point is 00:53:34 Just don't go then. And then you're kind of teaching their their their teaching, their teaching, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, what, what, what, to, to, what, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the audience... the audience.. the a. the a. the a. the a. the a. the a. the a. too, the a. too, too, too, the a.a, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to. to. to. too, things. So I'll go, I can't wait to do this corporate event. I'm really looking forward to it. It's a passion prog. It's a passion prod. One day maybe you'll get to host 36 separate awards for people in the kitchen supplies industry after 10 minutes of stand up. They get any kind of like treat when you get back from something like that, you know, for having been so brave. Yeah food and bald. I do it a similar way to you Cush where I sort of go like, look I've got to go because it's my job and we do I didn't need to earn some money so we can pay for stuff but I enjoy my job and I really like it so I'm going to go and have a great time come back get a
Starting point is 00:54:20 then we can spend that on going out you know for dinner or going and stuff like that and Rob doesn't say that he thinks he's good at it because he's fully aware that he's stealing a living he doesn't do your thing of going I think I'm good at my job yeah I'm really good at most of my jobs but I will still be paid for stuff I'm not very good at until they're really like don't you worry about that don't you do you guys do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you guys do you guys do you guys do you guys do you guys do you guys do you guys do you guys do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you guys do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you away from more than one night do you leave like I sometimes leave max like little notes or hidden scavenger things so that like on the second day or the third day. Oh my word that makes good that's really good he knows I'm thinking of him and I'll say in two sleeps I need you to follow this map to get to this. Oh my word this is nice I'm gonna do that nice. I th I this nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice nice I this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this is I this is nice I this is nice I this nice I I I this is nice I I I I I I I this is nice nice I I I I this is nice I this is nice I I this is nice I this is nice I this is nice I this is nice I this is nice I this is nice I this is nice I this is nice I th I'm I'm th I'm th I'm th I'm tho I'm tho I'm tho I'm they. tho I'm they. they. this is nice I'm this is nice I'm this is nice I'm this is nice. I'm going to do that next time. I get those sometimes when I go, I play football on a Sunday night,
Starting point is 00:55:06 about eight o'clock, so I leave about half seven, so that's when they're getting into bed, they go, but daddy, I don't want you to go, I don't really want you to go to the today. And then I go, and then I go, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, and, and, well, and, and, well, and, well, and, and, and, to, and, and, well, and, and, well, going athletic. Imagine if I went, oh please don't go to athletics after school. I'm gonna, like, how do you feel if I'll stop me doing Lego club? And there were, oh yeah, fair enough. We should talk about your podcast, Cush, Cush,
Starting point is 00:55:34 Cush, you've got a podcast. Yes, I have a new podcast with Sionbo. I'm thii, I tho, I tho, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I have, I, I have, I have, I have, I, I have, I have, I have, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, to, th. to, th.jumbo enough and obviously there's lots of Cushjumbo's. Yeah, yeah. Are you the only Cushjumbo in the world? I am. I am. I actually, I've checked. I remember reading that. I remember reading that. I'm actually, actually, actually am. Really? Is anyone close? I can believe it? You're called Kishjumbo. I can terribly believe it. There's no Kushjumbo. Especially with, I thought maybe with a K, not even with a K. Tell us about the podcast. You told me, but it'd be great for audience here. Where the name comes, it's a great story about where the name is is is is is is is is is. the name. Cushen comes. the the name. the name. the name is. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. It's is is th. It's is is th. It's is th. It's is th. It's thi. It's tosh is tosh is tosh is tosh is tosh is tosh is tosh. I tosh. I tosh. I tosh. I tosh. I is tosh. I is tosh. I. I is tosh. I. I is tosh. I. I. I. I is tosh. I. I. I. I. I is. I is. I. I. I is tosh. I. I. I is tosh. I is tosh. I is tosh. I is tosh. I tosh is tosh is tha. I tha. It's tha. It's tha. tha. tha. tha. tha.pe, my dad's from Nigeria. Let's just stop there. So they went Egyptian?
Starting point is 00:56:28 They went, they thought, Egypt! So we all have like very biblical names, even though we are not a religious family at all, but they think they're like got really cool connotations. They were convinced I was a boy, they liked this name, Kush, Kush King Cush, who was like king of the Cushite people. My dad's surname is Jumbo and that's how I ended up with Cush Jumbo. I don't think, Skunfolp and Nigeria picked an Egyptian king's name for their daughter, born in England. Yeah, that's right. So the podcast, Orogens, what's it about?
Starting point is 00:57:02 So, I have been, like, you have been, like, you have been, the podcast is all about origin stories. So I have been, like you have been, interviewed loads of times, but I always feel like most of the stuff that's out there, the stories that are out there about me and the things that people know is actually like barely scratching the surface of who I am. Actually, some of the time, they're not of their life, like when they were five or six years old,
Starting point is 00:57:27 did they have the fingers up the nose? Were they the bully? Did they get a send out? Were they really well behaved? And then when they were a teenager, were they really cool teenager, could they kiss with their tonguuuuoooooooooooooooo. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they they they they they they they they they thi. they they they they were they were they were. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they that............ they they they they thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeea. toda. today were were were were today were were were were today were were today were were today were theea. they were they were were doing for jobs before they hit the big time or whatever. Oh this is great it's a really nice. Oh yeah because I don't think anybody ever really asks celebrities about who they actually are. Yeah how did you become and how did you
Starting point is 00:57:57 get to where you know? Yeah worst heck all you've ever had. Yeah well Well actually you have all these pivotal friendships when you're a kid or like relationships or like stories and I did so many jobs before I was really properly acting that I just don't think people know about. So anyway, yeah, it's about origin stories. So I sit down with salivaries and I ask them for three pivotal moments that are from their lives. Can you tell us anyone who's been on? We are about to start recording next week so I can't I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I. to start recording. to start recording. to start recording. to start recording. to start recording. to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to the. to to to the. to to the. to the. the. the. the. the go there we go there we go there we go that's promo that's how you do it Rob Oh I'm ready to go now I'm looking for it I need to go on the note Google notifications
Starting point is 00:58:34 yes yes yeah do know when it's gonna be out to be later this year I imagine I literally was trying to find out this morning to tell you this podcast I this this this this the to to the to the to the to the to the to the to the the to the to to the to the to the to to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the their I'm their I'm their I'm their I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th the tho tho try I try I try try try tro tro tro true true true true true true tho to tho to tho tho tho we're recording literally starting two weeks and I'm gonna be recording like 48 before the end of the year so oh wow fair enough brilliant well let us know and then we can let the listeners know when it's out yes I have to get you two on oh love to love to love I can tell you now I wasn't kissing with tongu the teenager I can confirm the rumors I had never kissed with tongu that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I can I can the that I can I can I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can the the the to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tongues. That's what you were doing after school was just practicing on my arm, yeah. For the first 15 years of your life and the last 15 years of his life, he's not kissed with tongunges. Oh man, my tongue was, I basically pulled a muscle in my tongue and my tongue ease. He was exhausted. Bloody L'I couldn't stop the Frenchese. Criminal records back as well.
Starting point is 00:59:28 We should just mention that. Yes, it's going to be back next year. We've had a bit of a gap just because the writer's strike meant we couldn't shoot. Of course. We're back shooting beginning of next year, so we should be out like the middle of the year and second season. But yeah, that's very exciting, back in East London, so that should that should that should that's exciting back in East London so that should be good. Oh quality and who's number one on the call sheet you're Peter Capaldi? It's I don't know actually Josh I mean I actually think about it no it is Peter it's Peter. We've worked with two Dr. Who's recently I have I only
Starting point is 00:59:58 work with Dr. Who's I work with my machine I work with Michael Sheen's a hamlet I work with Humlet's and Dr. Who's. Oh oh. I have. I have have have th. I have the th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. I have th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. th th th th th th. th. th. Who's th. Who's th. Who's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. Who's the. Who's the. Who's the. Who's theat. Who's thlet. I work with Hamlets and Doctor Who's. Oh, we love Sheenie. We love Sheeny. But Peter's amazing and listen, like when you're someone as awesome as Peter and you ask them to do a show with you and they say yes, they should be number one on the cool sheet. They just should be. Respect. Did you ask him? We want? We wanted it it to to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to ask to to to to to to to to to ask. We want to ask th. We want th. We want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. We. We. We. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the idea and then just did it. That's so cool. Your life is fucking great, isn't it? I know. Do you know what? And you've got a nanny so you don't have to do any parenting. Your life's absolutely mad.
Starting point is 01:00:31 I'm telling you, Josh, it's just sleep and rosé for me. I'm tellain. Cush J Good luck with the podcast as well. Thank you, guys. This was so much fun. Bye-bye. Cush Jumbo. Love Cush Jumbo, Josh. I fucking love Cush Jumbo. She's a legend. She's quite a good laugh. She's so much fun. And South London. South London. South London. to the South London. So do listen to it. We'll let you know when it's out. We'll th. th.. We still don't know yet. We don't know. Cush Jumbo.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Uh, see on Tuesday. Bye. Bye. Welcome to Making Friends with Chantel Nash. It's me. Chantel Nash. Comedian, writer, mom of two, crock lover, and now podcaster. Right, guys, I'm going to be honest to be honest to be honest to be honest to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the to be to be the the to be the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the writer, the writer, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be too, tomoomorrow., tomorrow., tomorrow., tomorrow., too., too., too., too., too.... an adult it's hard and maintaining friendships as an adult even harder. I can't be the only one who's not replying to text and not finding time to meet up and grappling
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