Parenting Hell with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe - S9 EP6: Joe Marler

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

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I did it. I did it. I did it. Come on woman, leave me alone. Come on woman, leave me alone. Get off my case. This is my nephew, Elliot. She doesn't, yeah, she's not even his mum, he's like,

he's like, their gbb on a podcast you listen to put a shift in. I mean I'm making that up she might be really involved. So apologies. Well let's see. This is my nephew Elliot who will be three in October. This is the first time I met it. No. He you try to test him with a prawn, he'd bite your hand off. Loves a prawn. I don't have kids, but I love being an auntie to Elliot and his cousin Rosie, who's almost one. Yeah, it's almost one.

Yeah, it's almost one. Oh, who's almost one? Well, did you think it was like a deeper, I, I, I, I, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I thi, I thi, thi, I thi, I thi, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th, I th, I th, I th. I th. I th. I, I, I th, I th, I, I th, I th, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th th thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I t too tooo toooooo toda. toda. I toda. I th th Elliot and his cousin Rosie, who's almost one. I thought she meant to do almost a kid. Oh, right. So, what is she like a kind of... It's almost my niece. Yeah, almost my niece. I wasn't sure a parenting podcast was for me, but then you interviewed Tom Allen, I was hooked. Fair enough. There we go. That was early doors. Thanks for last. Kate from Birmingham and Elliot from, oh sorry, Reditch. I wouldn't have got that anyway. Reditch, been there, done a gig bear. Where is it? I tell you what though, do you want me to Google it? Are we doing it? Reditch? Yeah. Let's find out. I was in Andover the light. there. that is no Nandova. that is no Nandova. You have tho-is. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. I tho. I th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I've th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll the. I'll the. I'll to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. the. the. I've the. I've the. I, Nandover. How did I not do that? Go back, Rob. Rebook. Right, we're doing

it again, Andover. If I had a bloody time machine, I'd go back and do that. Oh, Reditch is south of Birmingham, near Worcester. Oh, nice. Royal Emmonspah. All that malarkey. Yeah, and no, they had a fake Nandoos called their frangos. Uh, how was it was it it it it th. th. th Portuguese community in Andover because they moved there to pick Watercress Which some lady called Mary told me who sounded like she had been in Andover forever Rob yes, what's going on? Yes, what's going on? Can I talk to you about stand-up comedy? Is there a big exciting announcement? There is a big exciting announcement? There is a big exciting announcement? There is a big exciting? There is a big exciting? There? There is a? There is a there? There is a there? There is? There is a the the the th? There is? There is? There is a th? There is a th? th th th th th th th th the th th th the th th th the the the the the th the th th thic th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. thi thi thi thi that to that that to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the that that that could be, go on. Yeah. I've decided not to go on tour. Right, okay, sure. Good decision. I've saw a couple of the previews, think it's the right thing to do.

You'd overstretch yourself, you don't really love it anymore. Good decision. No, I'm going on too' I'm incredibly. I'm incredibly. I'm. So I've been told to announce it exclusively on the podcast today. Oh, it's right, first question, dynamic pricing? Uh, yeah. It starts at one pound and it goes up to six. No, you're not doing a flat fee. I'm not doing dynamic pricing, so whatever you do, don't get in early. Leave it late, you'll be fine.

No, I will sell out. Where you playing? Can I see your dates? Have you got your date? No. What's the tour called? The tour is called. Not my cup of tea.

Yeah, it's a very Joshredican title. I'm excited about the poster, Rob. You drinking tea? I am drinking tea on the poster, Rob. I went all the way to Margate to drink tea. Sat down on a, I think you're gonna be sat down on a deck chair or something seasidey with a cup of tea. No, it's in a house. Let me find it. Why did you go to to Margate for a house? Because it was like we we th. th. th. th. to to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to margate to margate to margate to margate to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the try margate try tha tha tha try tha thea thea to to to to to to to to to to to to to one and go there than build one in a studio. Right, it should have just gone around Tom Allen's house. Yeah, I should have just gone around Tom Allen's house. But his fees are too high. Ever since he knows that his appearance on this podcast got us list, he's been absolutely.

Well we're plugging it in. to watch that. Oh, you're on my Sky's get back to your tour. Yeah, well, it's actually quite good that you're filling it in, because my agent's currently typing. In response to what do I need to say about the tour? She said for which up and I said this Friday, and now she's typing. Are you worried that not my cup of tea is gonna be really easy for reviewers to use against you? Well, I don't care to care the reviewers to care the reviewers to care to care to care the reviewers to care to care to care the reviewers to care to care to care to care to care to care to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to say I to say I to say I to say I to say I to say I to say I to say I to say I to say I to say I to say I to say I to to to to to to to to to to their I their I their I their I their their their. to their. their to too. their. the too. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the reviewers Rob. Okay, why are you telling me that by staring me dead in the eye, sat forward, looking your lips? Because I'm hard. Right, so you don't care at a tour about reviewers. If there's a review of your tour show, will you read it? No. No? I haven't read a review of my tour show in over a decade. Really? So if I'm making all the mistakes every time I'm to apologize to everyone. they. their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to to, to to to to to their, their, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to to to to, to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, toda, to, their, to, their, tooo, tour, too, to, to to to to to to to toto read through them all. Sorry, so what's the announcement? Where are you going? What are you going to go?

The reason I don't care what reviewers say, Rob about that title is if they're going to hate me, they're not going to go, if they use the title, fine. Okay. I also think, if it's not your cup of tea, Yes, yeah. So, not my words, the words of my agent. That's a funny tour title. What? Not my words. Not my words. Not my joke. It goes on sale next week. Sign up to my mailing list on my website and you will access the pre-sale. So, I'm not doing dynamic pricing, obviously, because I didn't know it existed till a week ago, so I didn't have the option. But if you sign up before 9 a.m. on Thursday the 19th, then you will get the first dibs on tickets.

And without blowing smoke up your butt, you're not doing arenas so the tours will sell out straight away, and then it will. It will. And the other option is it will sell out and then you might be able to put on an extra night but if your schedules too busy you probably won't so you do need to get in quite quick when they're in theaters because they have such a strong mailing list on their own so yeah they do want to see Josh I want in ahead of the the theater because I want the fans to me rather than just people that happen to their.. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the their the the the the th some. th some. Yes. Yes. Yes. th is th is that's thus. Yes. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is thee. thee. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to take them. I will take them. Look, and over the lights. No one at that gig last night has booked tickets to the tour. They only come and saw me because it was a five-minute walk from their house. Yeah, I'm fabulous. That's our touring works in the beginning.

Yeah, when you're doing the small venues, you're just the Whitakum. Dot, that's the difficult bit for me, Rob. Is it dot. Is it dot co. UK or is it dot com? I'll be honest with you, I don't visit it much. Is it not your homepage? It's all my bookmarks, actually. Oh, I've just had some more confirmed. Oh, I've just had some more confirmed.

Well, that's one of the ones I've just had confirmed. Do you know what, I'd advise you to not do this because I said I was doing Woking and I'm not doing Woking and I still get people from Woking going, I'm doing Eden Court in Inverness but that isn't on this leg of the tour. Right, okay, but at some point you'll be doing Invenaise. Yeah, yeah. So if you live in Invanev in thse for the love for thse for thse for thse for thes for the love, for thes for thes for thes for the love, for thes, for thes, for the love, for thes, for the love, for thes, for th, for th, for th, for th, for the, for thes, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for thes, for thes, for th, for th, th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I I I I th, I I I I I I I th, I th, I I I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I the, I the, I the the the the the tho tho thooo thoo thoo the thoooo the tho tho tho tho they've got a new thing in the office, Rob. They plot all the things on a map and it shows the hot spots around the country so that everywhere is covered by dates. Really? A bit like a COVID outbreak, like maps. Exactly, yeah. And so there will be dates near you. Great. Good announcement. So basically, bottom line is sign up to the pre-sell link and then actual information will get to you. Sign up to my mailing list on Josh Whitticum.com. There we go. Josh Whitakam comedian and presenter. I'm Googling it, that's a gamble.

That's a gamble. For fuck sake, the first picture is a cutout of my face from celebrity cutouts. Josh Whitakom. to co-in'com. What's your email Rob? Just read it out. Oh my god, the photo of you is awful on the first image on Google, isn't it? It's fucking terrible, is it? That's an awful first one. I know, there's some great photos of you on Google image set. I don't really want to look, do I? I could be here for, oh, we've got silly wankerat from the university. We've got one where you literally look 25 stone heather and I'm the they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is that's is. That's is that's is that's is that's. that's is that's. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. the the the the the the th. the th. the the th. thirty, thirty, that's that's that's that's that's that's that when that was. When was that? I've never seen you the heavy. If you Google Josh Widdickam and just go straight to images, right? Yeah, I've done that.

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at Harlequin's training ground, would that be correct? Yep, that's where I'm at. And behind you is two massive photos of I imagine rugby legends that I don't know. No, it's just one.'ll pass that on to him, but he's dead, so it probably won't get the message. That is, um... Is that the original Harley Quinn that the team's name after? It's one of the big Harley Quins. Um, his name is Waffle Wakefield.

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But it's up to you if you want to mock the dead, that's completely human. You know what, that's on me? That's a conservative that's a conservative. It's a conservative. It's a conservative. It's a conservative. It's a conservative. It's at rugby. It's weird though because a lot of the lads in it are quite normal but the top brass is a... I don't know why we've gone down the political room. How do you get away with this and you know your proper job is a rugby player and then you've got a a podcast on the side which eventually will be like your full-time job I imagine? Which is massive? It's huge, you know I'm a big a fan of the, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, the, the, th tho, th tho, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th th th th th th th th th th thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, tho thin, tho thin, th got th got tho thin, th got th got th got ththen you've got a podcast on the side which eventually will be like your full-time job I imagine which is massive. It's huge you know I'm a bigger fan of your podcast and the whole of rugby personally. Yeah I wouldn't have ever guessed that from the opening gambit from you. So how do you get away with doing all your podcast stuff when you're supposed to

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I love it. How many kids you got, Joe? Talk us for, let's get the facts out first. I've got four kids. I've got a 10-year-old boy, an eight-year-old girl, a five-year-old boy and a three-year-old girl. You close your eyes as if as if-as-as-as-as-as-as-in-in-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-in, their-i-i-in, their-in-in-in-in-in-in-in-i-i-in-i-in-i-i-i-i-i-i-in, let let let let, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's-in, let's-in, let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let let the-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the-s. the point where you go, hang on, what are their names again and what are their ages? I had to like just concentrate on getting it right. I'm now considering calling my wife and going, am I sure that they're this old and it's definitely

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But then does she agree with that or that does she love it? No, she does love it, mate, she's amazing. You can joke when people go, oh what do you do? She's like, well I'm my mum. And they go, oh yeah let alone fucking do another job well that I do things a weird thing because back in the 90s if your mom was a career woman and she went out and worked she was judged like oh it don't care about your kids you're not looking after them and now I feel like it's great because obviously it's swung a bit where women yeah

I have got more opportunities like in traditional careers and not being a mom and staying at home. But then if you are staying at home looking after the kids, there's almost a judgment of like oh a young haven't got a career as well. And there's like a kind of, if you ask someone what they do, like if you're asking them, if you're doing a gig or something and someone's a mom or a dad, they'll always say just a juster won't they? And you're like like, they're like, their. And you. And you. And you're like, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they're, their, they's, to say, their, to say, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, themselves because they feel like it's not enough, do you know what I mean? Yeah. They're almost too scared to just say, I'm just a mom, like, well, hang on. Try doing the parenting. I don't know what the situation is where you two and how much you actually try doing the

parenting job or that role. Whenever I joke with it, right, I've got to yeah, fucking work. Like, you're sitting on your ass at fucking rugby all time, or you're going to podcast it, it's not really work. I'm like, well, it's sort of paying for the house, so we'll crack on with it. Or maybe we could swap roles, like you do my job and I'll do your day-to-day stuff. And she goes, all right, then, yeah, cool. Very good. I've got to fucking out. Is this my wife Daisy in Rob Beckett form? Like, you know, you don't actually fucking do anything.

I could do what you do. You plod around a rugby field and then punch someone occasionally and get banned. So right, okay. It's a skill. It's an unappreciated skill. But then doing the role reverse, I'm like, fucking hell you're right. Never dream of mocking the situation of your sitting on your ass all the time because it's non-stop. No. At that age as well because you've got the little one that's three not a school yet that's running around being mental and you've also got to make sure the kids are in

school with the right stuff for the right thing four different drop-ops four different pickups like I' the logistics of their four... their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their I'm. I'm I'm I'm I'm their their thick I'm thick I'm thrown I'm their thrown I'm thi I'm thrown I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their to their their their their their th no th no th no th no th no th no th no th no th no th no I's th no their th is I's th is I's th is th is their th is th is their thi thi their thrown their thrown their their their their their their their their their their to to to to to their their to tho the the the the to the logistics. Obviously Lou takes more of the lead because I'm away quite a lot but when I'm at home I'm like on it but it's like the logistics of getting them to and from do you do a lot of school drop-offs and stuff or yeah I try as much as I can. Yeah I know I'd get involved as much as I can mate I love it. We didn't have four wanted to sort of grow up with them a little bit and we're still kind of doing that. So he's 24 when you had your first? Was I 24? Yeah, I was 24. Yeah, I know you better than you know you. Take a key. Yeah, it was 24 when we had Jasper and then all our mates around us were like, what are is without kids and I'm like yeah it's a good point but we're just gonna have a great life with the kids so

like we tried as hard as possible early on still like doing everything with all our mates like going down a pub or whatever and then just taking the kids the kids with us and Jasper the eldest sort of experienced a lot of that. It'd come to everything and they'd be like, what the fuck. And then it got to the point, it was the second and then it get to the third and then the group of mates are a little bit more like, we love your kids and we love you guys, but like you're sort of ruining out of the the the the the the the the the their ruining ruining ruining ruining the the the the the their ruining their ruining their ruining their ruining our ruining our ruining our ruining our the night in the night in the night in the night in the night in the night in the night in thing thing thining thinning thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' the thin' thin' the the the the the the the the the the the the the thin' the thin' the thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' thin' to th to to th th to tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo th th th th thin' this Friday night or dipping out of the weekend away with the couples and you're like cool. We're going to go find some new parent friends.

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You're funny. You're funny and the fact of when you're just talking about going away with four kids I'm just already excited away. I meant when you go away and do your gigs, do your bits in that lot. Do you find yourselves like getting that guilt at all? Yeah, like do you totally? Totally, totally percent by guilt. Yeah. You're like, oh, fucking hell. But you're also fighting the fact that you're like, I'm going to do a gig and do what I love. And so you know and then you go. That doesn't help. And that. And that. And that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that doesn't that. that. that. that doesn't. that. that. help. But you get to forget it for a minute and then when you realize fucking how this is amazing like you're in front of thousands of people making them all laugh and then you get flicked back to going, oh fuck, the miss is at home and probably clearing up a shit on the floor or one of the kids is punch the other one and the kids punch punch, th is punching, th is punching, th is punching, thin, like, thin, like, thin, like, like, thin, like, like, like, like, thin, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thin, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, they... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, they. Yeah, theyough crowd tonight, but actually it was the night year life. Do you ever find yourself maybe telling a poor time?

I suppose the problem for you is your results are published. So like, you can't go it was a bad match when you've won. Well you say that, Josh, but- They still publish rugby results? Excellent. He's still going with it. But you do say they are published but fortunately like my wife has never taken an interest in rugby whatsoever. We've got together at school. It was never like a wag situation because let's face it I was never gonna nail down a whack was I look at the state of the fucking face on it.

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never interested in my work and I don't think they ever will be. And I think that's quite healthy. Like I suppose rugby's more exciting than your dad being a knobbed on TV. Kids aren't in favor of you being a knobbed on TV. You know what, they're not that fuss whether I've done the wheel with Michael McIntyre. It doesn't really tell really takes the side. No. But if you did a show that they did, then, you know, but it's more impressive to show rugby highlights to your kid than a witty line on last leg at 11 p.m. fresh time. My kids never say how's work. No, they haven't got an interest. The kids always go, why are you going to work or don't go, yeah. theylap.

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And I'm like, he brings me back down to earth and it's great. I love it. At school there was two guys that were good at rugby and basically in PE they'd just run through all of us. Was that what you were like? Were you just like massive and you just smashed everyone out the way? No I was wide, fucking fat actually why am I trying to be pincereens? Like the weekly shot would be done on the Monday and all the fucking crisps, all the snacks and they're out, they're gone by Tuesday. So I should you sort of get into shape then and change out into muscle. You're trying to put yourself down.

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If you're like footballer, you're identified from seven. Yeah. Is that not the case in rugby or be you kind of an exception? Rugby's different because it is so physical based. Yeah. You can identify an eight, nine, 10-year-old kid who's pretty good, pretty skillful. But they're small small, th small, th small, th small, and thi small, and th, and th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and thi, thi, thi, thi, though, thi, thi, thi, thi, so I I thi, so I I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, so I, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thii. And, thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, so I's, so I'm thi. thi. thi. thi. thiologogui. th th th th thi. thi. thiolough, so I's, so pretty good, pretty skillful, but they're small and then you've got to sort of wait out a bit. Are they gonna have a lap growth spur? Are they gonna get a beard? Are they gonna like talk deep or something like that? So you have to wait a little bit and see what the

physical outcome is of them. And rugby is a bit later because I don't it. I don't know it's just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just. It's just just. It's just just just. It's just just just just just just just just. It's just just the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. to. to to their. their one really likes it. There's not as many people. The reason you start with fucking six, seven-year-old kids at football is because every fucker plays it. Like, you have to, you have to start them early because everyone wants to poach them early. Are any of your kids showing the signs that they could be good at rugby? Well, my eldest daughter Maggie, she has got a massive back. I mean, I don't even know what that means. It's got a really good... Does that not mean you've got a big front as well?

I don't know, she hasn't actually unfairness to her. It's something like she's got a massive back. She's got a great frame to her back. Yeah. And I said to my wife, I went, Days,'s got a great frame to her back. Yeah. And I said to my wife, I went, Days, I'm going to turn her into a powerlifter. Like, oh really? I've got a gym in my garage at home and I'll go in there for a bit of me time to get away. Just like that would be my sanctuary.

But now it's like being invaded by all the kids who want to try out all the different machines and lift up all the weights and the competition to him. But like Maggie's really strong, she can outlift her eldest brother and she's like really proud of it and I'm like she's got a massive back. I'm joking. She's like, oh do you think that's a nice thing to say about your daughter? I said well it's not a horrible thing to say is to say is it? No no no no no the the the the th no th no th no th. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thin, thin, thin, thin, I I's thin, I's th. I's th. It's thin, thi. I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I's th. I's th. I's th. I's th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I's the the the the the the the the the the the thi. I'm thi. I'm thee a thea. I'm thea' thea' thr. I'm thea' the. One of my many nicknames is quasi-mala because I look like the bloke who used to ring the bell. Just all like that. So I don't know if that's a compliment when they say that. But yeah, she's got a big old back. Good should be a swimmer? Is the back better for lifting? Back's much better for lifting, Rob, actually. Sure, that's fine, you know.

Is the money in women's rugby? No, not really. No. And there's definitely no money in women's power lifting. So I don't know why I recommended either to her. I was like maybe we'd just turn her into golfer, but she's not interested in that. But the only other one is Felix, Felix, Felix, Felix,-old and the only sign he's shown being interested in sport or being good at it is his anger, his aggression. He can fight like fuck like he is

an angry. And where do you think he gets that from? I've been racking my brain for a good four or five years now. Your personality is so chilled and funny and relaxed but on the picture I've seen clips of you lose it but I don't know if you are losing it or you're pretended to lose it or you can just get fired up. Are you in control in those moments or has the red mist descended and you're in another place? I would probably say I'm more in control now than I was but previously it was complete red mist didn't know what was going on. Just lose it and I don't't know why I'd lose it, I'd just lose the plot for no reason, the amount of times that I've been banned or done something stupid and then gone,

fuck, I've no idea, like almost I've blacked out and just done something there with rage or the weirdest one was when we beat our rivals at home in a game and I hated them, really despised them because they were like well-known cheats. They've been cheating for years and I just lost it and it was amazing that we won but instead of celebrating I just ran over to their bench and all the staff and all the management all that lot and just dropping the sea bomb everywhere all that were just spraying them and then lost the plot and stormed off in my kit in my boots in the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the truck and truck and truck and the man man man man man man man man management management management management, the man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man man the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the truck truck truck and truck and truck and truck and truck and truc. truc. truc. truc. truc. truc. the truc. truc. the tru all that were just spraying them and then lost the plot and stormed off in my kit in my boots in the crowd and got in my truck and drove home. I just turned on what was going I'd just completely lost the plot and then next minute at my home and I'm like, what the fuck? How did I get here? What's happened here? So there have been a fair few red

miss blackout? I think.'s been such a calming influence and my kids that have been a calming influence or more an influence of like thinking more before doing. Yeah. Resisting the urge to fucking just go with how you feel and actually thinking about stuff. I remember watching your documentary that was released like Mental Health Week and like your sort of struggles with your mental health since you've sort of been more open about that and I imagine, I don't know if you have done any therapy or have coping strategies, now you've been more open about it and you're aware of how your mind processes stuff. Are you more in control and the feeling and stuff rather than bolling it up,

pushing it down and then exploding? Is that sort of, there's photos of you, like you look unrecognizable in your eyes. The eyes are quite a good indicator to what's going on. And some of the photos of you when you're younger in your career, you look like a different person. Obviously you're a bit younger, but actually you look younger, brighter, and more in control and in the real world where some of these photos of you are, the photos, the photos, the photos, the photos, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the photos, thi, thi, the photos, the photos, thi, their, their, their, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, is is is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is their, their, their, thi, thi, thii, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, their their the guy that's a different person to the one that's sat here now. Yeah, I don't think I knew, because I didn't know what was going on, I just sort of, I don't know,

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When you said, like, would a home. I was there physically, but just within myself. I was having all sorts going on. I didn't have any answers to it. And then it came to a head when I completely trash the house. And my wife was, it's still hard to speak about now because it's so full of shame. I just ran out on her basically. And that was like my lowest point. And it was like fucking hell. I. I. It was, I. It was, I. It was, I. It was that, I. It was that, I. It was that, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was to to to to to to to to to to to to to get to get to get thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thi, I was thin, thin, thin, thin, thooooooooooooomomorrow, I was just just just, thi. th was like my lowest point and it was like fucking hell what's going on I need help it was that moment I need help I need

help I need to go get it and then I went and got help and started therapy and I've been doing therapy on and off since then and exploring it and get more answers to things and you know I don't want to delve into it all now because it's a fucking light-hearted, funny painting podcast. But at the same time, yeah, the same time, I really enjoy this free therapy session from you boys. Do you mind if I just lie down and like the ten, there's a change here and they're just chill. Whatever you need, what have you need? Thanks. So yeah, now I feel like I can recognize things that I'm tha thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thate to to to to to their to to to to to to to to to to to feel I'm to feel feel feel feel feel feel to feel feel feel feel feel feel feel to feel the same. the same the same. the same the same. the same. What the same. What the same. What the same. What to feel, what to feel, what the same that. What that, what that, what I that, what I that, what I that, what I don't that, what I that, what I that, what I'm thate. thate. thateate. to toeateate. toeateate. I to to to to to s that are going to trigger me. Now I feel I'm aware of things in the future that I know that I'm going to struggle in that part so I'm going to need a little bit of break or but you know stuff like that and coping

with it. And yeah, I just feel much happier and I'm so much happier because I'm actually experiencing these things with the kids as opposed to just being there............... And, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm thi, thi, thi, thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, thi, I'm thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, things with the kids as opposed to just being there. Like I'm actually driving more with it all and loving it and actually engage with it all. So yeah, I feel a lot more in control of those things. That's why when it comes back to the rugby side of it, I'll still have an occasional flare up because it's a contact sport and that's what I love to have the physical alpha mindset of going after each other, but it needs to be that level of not going too far. And then I've also got that in the back of my head of, if my kids do bother to turn the TV on, they might watch this and I don't want to be setting a really bad example. I still want to have the ability to go home and go, Jasper, you can't turn around

and puthe. around and punch someone at school because you didn't get what you wanted or whatever and then him to turn around and go, I saw you turn around and punch someone yesterday on the pitch so fuck off basically. It's fantastic. Who as I say, not as I do, son, all right, let's go down that room. So yeah, that's where it's at. And I think it's also, because I'm coming to the end of rugby, I'm like, stop being a twat. Do you know what I mean? Do you learn some valuable lessons through the therapy though? I'd say so. I'd say it's going really well so far. It always starts with, hi Joe, how much of a twat have you been this week?

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Well, don't get angry, Joe, don't get angry. Everyone's reacted differently to different treatment, don't they? Yeah, exactly. I think it's such shit right, being able to talk, like open up and to someone if you're feeling shit, if you're feeling, if you're struggling, if you stress or whatever, just talk. That's the whole point of having a network around you, find someone to talk to, to open up to, but that's always the hardest thing. I found it so hard because I was like, I don't want to open up this can of worms to my wife. She's got enough on going on as it is. I don't want to then burden my mates because they've gone out partying all the time and they don't

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Did you get a long time off over the summer? I know you was injured. But with rugby, like, thiii. lot in the summer do you have that time often and is your wife a bit more like right you're in charge now Joe you've been away on tour of England or whatever now it's so how was the summer was it full-on now it was great I broke my foot away on tour for England in the first test against New Zealand and then if you're not fit to play you usually flown home and you get someone else in that's what happens and then because I'm old and the boys boys boys boys boys boys boys boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the boys the other the other the other the other the other the other the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their tooys. tooys. tooes in tooes tooes tooes tooes their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their too. too. toe. toe. I. I was. I was. I was. toe. I was. I was. toe. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I's what happens. And then because I'm old and the boys in my position were young, the head coach was like, oh, do you think you could stay around for the last week? Like you were gonna be away anyway, but could you stay around for the last week and help out

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bone to heal for the first four weeks. And I went, there's not a fucking chance that's going to happen. Like if you want me to say, when I do come back, I'm sitting on my ass for four weeks, and that's it. I said, now you need to call her, now you need to tell her, and they were like, actually, we won't bother. Just try your artist. And I went, it's also festival. go to rates of fuck off. I'm not complying to the non-weight bearing. So yeah, we did a couple of festivals. Did you check the kids? Have you not done a festival yet? Not with

the kids? Oh, lads. Oh, fuck me dead. You've got to get down to Camp Best of All. Really? Oh my God. It's like, we've done it last three years now, and it is fucking brilliant because everyone's in the same boat. Are you one of those couples? I've got four kids. So what they do is just go somewhere and there's loads of kids and adults and then go, I'm sure someone's watching them. Do you want to be? Because that's what happens. You get to four kids, you tap out and keep out of eyes. Well, they can look like if you keep having it are they? Oh, they'll come back. It's fine. No, I mean, it's unreal. It's like family orientate, but not. So like, you can do all sorts. It's good for the adults thing. But everyone's sort of stuff there. Mr. Tumble, Hackety. I mean, we don't really go for Mr. Tumbol. No. So you're not taking them there. You took them to their just, just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just the g. the g. the g. the g. the gg. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. th. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. because you're on the listings there so you did a, did you do your podcast or was it an interview type thing? Rob DeBank, the DJ, it's his festival and I just did a chat with him. Oh, he interviewed on them. Talk bollocks, but we're open to take the podcast there next year. What's it like bedtime wise there? Like you're camping, how do I guess the approach we took. It was more sweet induced where you just go fucking out, have a load of sugar and then you know that they'll crash. Mate, it's just,

it's freedom out of the routine of the weekly stuff. Yeah. And they love it and they soon get nackered dancing around all the place and then you get to midnight and then everyone crashes. I cannot recommend. And you can't you put your own ten. 6 up. Did you get nice tens? Six and three perfect. Six and three perfect. Six and eight even more perfect. Oh, they also do like boutique camping as well because I can't put a tent up. Did you put a tent up or did you get nice camping? Rob the bank sort of some of the boutique. the bank sort of set up. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoom. thoombue. th. th. thi. thi. thoombue. th. th. th. thoom's, thoom's, tho. Six and thoom's, tho. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. Six. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. tho. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. will set out. I couldn't put a tent up with two kids. I hate it.

Why? I don't have to build an house for a night off. My night off work, I don't build an house. Get them to do it. Just say you do it. I'll get, I'll do it. You just get so pissed take that there next year did you say? Do you think? Yeah, that's what we're hoping to do. It's just a lovely little gig mate.

And we also then get to meet, the old point of the like head teachers do they have head teachers on? Yeah we tend to try and go with more like a drainage engineer as opposed to like the big stars that have done the fucking circuit 10 hundred times do you know I mean? Well Steve the drainage engineer has never done a podcast before so let's see how that one goes. Some of the shit and the stories that come out of people. Yeah normal normal the the the their their their their their the f. the f. the f. the f. the f. the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their the their th. th. thrainage. th. th. th. th. th. th. thrain. thrain. thrainage. thrainage. thrainage. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. they. th. th. they. the. the. the. the. the. the the the th stories that come out of people Yeah, normal people always cross your mind. You're like, what the fuck is a drainage engineer? What actually does a surveyor do? Like, I'm like, what is that? And people go, well, that's not interesting, is it?

I went, well, fucking ask him some questions. And I bet you, people are interested. Give him a chance, all right. I already know what Robbie Williams does. Like, why do I need to be Williams? I know what he does. I know sort of how he does it. Like, let's just talk to like the normal people. Your episode does a mental. Once Groundskeeper, Sumo wresting, prisons, you'll never eat travel lodge eggs again. In fact, groundskeeper, Terry the groundskeeper.

So what one would you say to get a taste of the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast the podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast podcast really, Terry the groundskeeper. So what would you say to get a taste of the podcast, what would you recommend they listen to, groundskeeper? I highly recommend either Darren the marine biologist. The filming elephants, well no, because that's not marine is it? Well it depends if they're in the water or not. He's a niche elephant marine biologist. Yeah. Or like a big Laurie guy, librarian?

State agents. Or the chimney sweep? You know what? You've got to go listen to Josh to chimney sweep, mate. He was fucking unbelievable. How do you find your people? Well, loads of different way. But Josh we found on the chimney sweep association group

on Facebook. Amazing. So you think of a job and then you find the person. What have we got lined up here? I see, I ask for these, but they never fuck it. I don't know what I've got loads of mate. I've got loads of funny and live a mad life and do a mad job job, but they're like sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort sort. sort of run a logistics company which you wouldn't automatically assume. Exactly. You tell me Rob, what's a logistics company?

He basically has loads of warehouses where he stores stock and then makes him get on lorries and sends them all around the world. Yeah, I want to know what stock. I don't know. Exactly. That's, I don't know. this is why I'd listen to the podcast. I was once at a wedding and I was sat next to someone who worked for tea pigs, you know the tea company, T-A. Yeah. And I was like, oh that's interesting. And I'm really grilling her over how they do it, what their rivals are. And after a while she said, sorry, you've been sarcastic. Because I was so interested in her job. At what point did she say fuck thoom. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they. Oh, they. Oh, ty. Oh, tha. Oh, tha. Oh, thau. thau. thau. Oh, tha. Oh, tha. Oh, tha. Oh, trying to enjoy the wedding. Well, we were just sat next to each other and you're like for the whole meal.

Yeah. So I'm like, oh, I'm interesting their job. I'll talk to her about that. But I've already told to watch any cars really like. Obviously part of it is trying to distract from the to like Clapham Junction, the train station. When you go on holiday and you're in the airport, you're looking at people, you're looking at couples. Don't try to make it cooler. You're a teenage alone at Clapham Junction. Fair knows.

Yeah, fair though. Don't try to make a train station. Where else would you go? Where else would you go? like, what's their story? Like what, and then you dream up, oh my God, I bet they're having an affair, I bet they're going to the Premier in down the road and they look like they're about to fucking do the day. Or then you just got this random guy on his own, you go, what's his story?

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Yeah yeah really help you and then you don't think about oh I need a new car because when I was younger I was a family of five not five simply they were all five but we're all like you know like big like we weren't like a big backs there we go. So we'd struggle to fit in the Cleo or whatever. Or a mate or whatever, we'd just put one of us in the boot or in the footwell. But like there's no doing that these days. Like even me mentioning that to Daisy. Like just shove him in between your legs down there like the

My dad used to build a seat in the suitcase facing out the window on the motorway. Yeah so then he still had the ability to buy a reasonably priced car rather than getting a fucking seven-seater or something bigger and then you don't think so you've got to buy that and then you go fuck what about holidays and you go well the options are you you have to buy two so you can fit and then try and get them together and that still cost your arm and leg and then we went to Greece I said look we buy two rooms for the thing we got four kids etc they're like they've got to be next to each other because they're quite young kids and it would just be fucking carnage or this the th and it was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. It's the. It's their. It's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their is is is their is their is is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is their is they. I they. I is they is they is just they. I's their their their their their their their their. I's their their their. their their their their their they. their the arrived. I'm then too polite to actually kick up a fuss because I'm like, oh well we're here now. I just want to relax.

And then it's just fucking bat shit crazy. This year we decided, no, let's just drive four and a half hours to Norfolk because that'll be fun. Yeah, we just kept more stakation this year. And we loved it. Norfolk was gorgeous. So it's so expensive for the flights. You've got to get six flights. How can you justify? But like, she's not even as big as my leg.

And I've got to pay for a seat that's the same thing. And she's not going to sit in it. So what's the point? Can you maybe just give us a ticket tell all the other passengers who look at you like and frown at you if your babies cry in or whatever on the plane. They're like, oh, they're trying to be behind you. Yes. Ah, your elbow getting it by the drinks trolley every two minutes. We actually had that on the last holiday we went to, we went to Dubai.

And I booked the ticket so we're all the plane, there's this tall chap in there, it doesn't speak a word of English, so I'm gonna really struggle here. All right, I think you're sitting in my kid's seat because we're all together and he was like, no, this is my seat, like, I've paid extra for it. I was like, you know, I get that, but that's the same seat? And he just flat out refused. So then we were like, this is a big moment. We chose the 10-year-old to go and sit off on his own because the others would have just

gone mental on that flight. And how did he do? It absolutely loved it. We checked on him occasionally. But at the end of the flight, I don't know if you guys are thinking about this probably not you Josh or they're still a bit young but you've got to start thinking about when do you start giving them a little bit more rope to go and do stuff on their yeah so take them to the toilet

when they're 50 that you've got at some point no we're starting to do that we're starting to do that now with like the eight year old but it is like oh my god but it's just a hard balance but then you've got to thrown it's like to their their their their their to to to to to to their to to do to do their their their to do their we their we their we' thrown I I thrown we' thrown we' thrown we're thrown we're thrown we've thrown we're tho tho tho tho tho th we're tho tho tho they're they're they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they' they's they's they's they's they's they's they's to they's to they's their you to to their you their you to to thrown. to to to throwne to to to to to to to try to to try to their their their their their their thus decide to take them out for the day or whatever they're bored, I'm taking them out, borough, and then I'll get a video and the video is all of them one's planned with the hair dryer, one's planned with the sink and I'm like I'm thinking what's, she was like, I was desperate for a shit and none of them so they all came with me in the disabled baby change toilet and then they're all in there like they're oh my god they're stinks yes yeah and Daisy sitting they're like what the fuck am I doing with my life like I can't even have a shit in peace like like that happened to me the other day

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Like, if you've got mates or whatever, and they're like, you're like, well no I've fucking done my days with nappies mate. You do this. This is your... Till he have your fifth. No because then I'm not going to have my fish Josh we didn't finish that bit because I'm booked in for a sectomy. Oh right. When you're going. Well it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. they's they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they's. they's. they's. they's. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're to. to. they're to to to to to to the. the. I's to. to. I'll too. I'll toge. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, it's meant to be next Monday but the club desperately don't to play rugby again do you? Well that's it the club are now like don't think you should have a forsect me when you're trying to rehab and all that lot. You've had eight weeks off on the piss at Camp Festival maybe that was a really inconvenient time whereas now like now that I'm in my job work I'm whispering because they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th I th th is the thi thi thi th is thi th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is not th th th th is not thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi they thi thi thi thi thi thi they're next door and they're like fucking

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Okay, fine. Just to save yourself. A side from everything she does with bringing the kids up and we touched on it earlier with she was born to be a mom like just got so much love to give I don't know how big a fucking heart is because she just loves everything and everyone and she got so much love to get even to the point of now she's convinced rather than have another kid we've just got a puppy actually that was the oh wow that was the deal we're up up to three dogs and I'm like oh wow wow that that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was the that was the the the the the the th th the th. Wow the the th. Wow. That's the th. That's the the th. Oh the the the the th. Oh the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is th is th is th is th is th is the. the. the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. theeeeeeeee. thee. the the the the, fuck off. It's poor kids and three dogs. I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ. Back to positive, you know, she's a... Sorry, yeah, go back there. So much love give. And she's helped me through so much and realize the calm in nature and actually the loving nature and that's like what a wishy-washy answer to actually get. I just love her mate, I couldn't do any of it without it. You know, we've both created and both got an input into it, of course we have. But like you said, I've been away a lot these last 10 years and a lot of it has been down

to work and she's never fucking moaned, never been an issue about it, always been supportive and encouraging of my selfish career aspirations of like I know what we're getting into I'm up for this let's go and love it and I couldn't have done any of it without her so she's fucking brilliant. Now she sounds incredible and especially you know as you spoke before quite open about you know when you hit that rock bottom and she was there and what she's done for you and like if you just Google photos of Joe Marla there there's two different people there the way the way the way the way th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to they. they. I'm the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. I I I their. I their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they of Joe Marla, there's two different people there. The way you are now, you're so happy and, you know, and seeming such a great place and it's really inspiring I think Joe, so don't forget that. Lads, I've really fucking loved talking to you guys. I love him. I love listening to your podcast. And you two fucking brilliant. Cheers, Joe. Cheers. to the best. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. tha. the. the. the. the. the all the best. Cheers boys. Bye. Yes, bye. I love Joe Marlon. What a great guy and that is a great idea for a podcast. What a lovely bloke. He's absolutely, he's funnier than a comedian

Rob. There's a lot of comedians out there Robin and Living. He's super funny but I'm the documentary is amazing. Yeah it was filmed a few years ago on Sky Sports. I don't the thrown. It was a thi documentary. th. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. Yeah. Yeah. It's. th. th. Yeah. th. th. th. th. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.................................... Yeah........ Yeah...... Yeah......... th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. know where it is at the moment. I'm sure you can find it maybe on YouTube, but it was released part of mental health awareness week about his journey with getting therapy and stuff, but yeah, it was brilliant. So, Joe Mahler, give his podcast a listen. Things people do. Things people do. Josh I'll see you next time. See you. See you. I'm Max Rushton. I'm David O'Daharney and we'd like to invite you to listen to our new podcast, What Did You Do Yesterday? It's a show that asks guests the big question, quite literally, what did you do yesterday? That's it. That is it. Max, I'm still not sure where do we put the stress is it what did you do yesterday? What did you do yesterday?

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