Part Of The Problem - Kamala Harris Falls Flat on her Face

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

Dave Smith brings you the latest in politics! On this episode of Part Of The Problem, Dave is joined by co-host Robbie "The Fire" Bernstein to discuss everything about Kamala Harris's first interview in her campaign for president, her answers regarding immigration, how this campaign compared to others, and so much more!Part Of The Problem is available for early pre-release at https://partoftheproblem.com as well as an exclusive episode on Thursday!Support Our SponsorsProton VPN - http://protonvpn.com/davesmithMoink - http://moinkbox.com/potpProlon - https://prolonlife.com/ptpBabbel - http://babbel.com/problemGet your tickets to Porch Tour Herehttps://porchtour.comFollow the show on social media:X:http://x.com/ComicDaveSmithhttp://x.com/RobbieTheFireInstagram:http://instagram.com/theproblemdavesmithhttp://instagram.com/robbiethefireGet your tickets to Porch Tour Herehttps://porchtour.comFind Run Your Mouth here:YouTube - http://youtube.com/@RunYourMouthiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/run-your-mouth-podcast/id1211469807Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4ka50RAKTxFTxbtyPP8AHmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hello, hello, what's up everybody welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem. I am Dave Smith He is Robbie the fire Bernstein. We're back from Dallas. What a fun weekend. We had home Rob That was a great club packed house excited for some Casper, Wyoming I think we're doing a theater or something something spectacular. I don't know what we're doing, but I do know this weekend we will be in Casper Wyoming. That much I know for sure. Tickets still available. Go to ComicDaveSmith.com to come see us in Casper Wyoming this weekend. And then the following weekend we'll be out in Oklahoma City and Tulsa, so looking forward to all those shows comic davesmith.com For tickets so go go grab some and come see us and I don't have the links out yet

But I am loading up on porches. I'll be filming in Denver. I got Michigan coming up I got a whole bunch coming up so be on the lookout port porch dates dropping soon. Hell. Yeah, all right, so We've we've been hanging out this weekend and talking about some of this stuff Rob, but of course, you know our schedule is You know when Thursday nights not the best stuff not the best time to do stuff for us because then we're off until Until Monday. Yeah, someone can tell Kamala. Yes. Yes, if we could maybe I think that's what she's she's trying to duck the part of the problem He and she's gonna get I understand. It's good strategy It is so of course on Thursday night Kamala Harris gave her first interview since she's been running for president it is

It is remarkable That this is actually the strategy that they're going with They are they are truly running a Joe Biden campaign, but just with someone else, in a year where there isn't a global pandemic. So they're the same, you know, without the same excuses, but the same strategy of essentially we are not running a campaign.

That's basically Kamala Harris. It's like, okay, Kamala Harris is in. Now the traditional norms would dictate that the Democratic candidate won their primary. That is different this time around. She did not win a primary. She's not had a vote casted for her. And typically presidential candidates run on something. They typically have something that they're running on. That's also different with Harris. She is not running on her 2020 presidential campaign and she's not running on Joe Biden's administration. She's just

Running on nothing That's that's the Kamala Harris campaign in a nutshell and I gotta say as as depressing a thought as this is Not the worst strategy Not the worst it's better than her trying to explain an agenda. That's for sure. That's for sure. And you know, there is, she does benefit from this thing in a way. I mean, it's a, listen, it's terrible and it's not a good sign for the country.

But in a weird way, she is able to position herself as like, hey, I'm just some lady. It's Donald Trump versus some lady and let the media tell everybody about how amazing and exciting and joyful and you know, let them let them handle all of that shit. And in a weird way, she kind of benefits from it because, and this is kind of what's strange here. Her presidential campaign in for 2020, which was really in 2019 when she was running that campaign, was it did so bad that it's not even a blip on the radar.

I mean, this was a presidential campaign where she dropped out before the first contest in Iowa. She didn't really even run a campaign through the campaign. She just kind of pretended to run and then had to drop out cause nobody got on board with, with her and Tulsi nuked her off the debate stage and then she was gone. So it's not like, um, you know, let's say, for example, let's say Bernie Sanders,

let's say Bernie Sanders in 2020 was trying to walk away from raising the minimum wage and universal health care and, and you know, whatever, uh, tuition free state colleges, like the pillars of what he ran on. Let's say he ran that campaign in 2016 and then in 2020 he was like, I'm not for any of those things anymore He never could have gotten away with that because that campaign Made such an impact He ran the campaign all the way up to right before the convention He went through almost every single primary. I think every single primary he was in the campaign for

so it's not single primary I think every single primary he was in the campaign for so it's not you can't just back off of that because it's almost like those issues are branded with Bernie Sanders that's a part of who he is but with Kamala Harris the campaign made such little noise that it's like she's able to kind of slink away like oh yeah I don't really stand for any of that stuff anymore. Yeah, remember I said, you know, a little bit of it comes up in the interview. But if you remember, you know, I used to say I was for Medicare for all, I used to say I wanted to ban fracking, I used to say border crossing should be decriminalized. I don't believe in any of that stuff anymore. And because her campaign made such a small impact,

she's able to get away from that. It's not like, like everybody doesn't know her as being branded with those issues. If she had been running on them for a full year, she'd have a much tougher time. But so she's able in a sense to get away from that. And then even though even though we all know right now and everybody knows this, they know right now, we don't have a president. There is no president of the United States of America right now. There's a senile old man who legitimately has trouble pulling off 90 seconds of speaking.

If Joe Biden could go 90 seconds without flubbing something up, it's a good 90 seconds for him. Nobody thinks privately that guy is really running the show. But even though everybody knows Biden isn't really running the government, nobody thinks Kamala Harris is. Nobody, including us, nobody thinks that Kamala Harris is like the Dick Cheney of the Joe Biden administration, who from the vice president's office is really pulling the strings. Nobody thinks that. If you ask anyone who knows what they're talking about, you're like, who do you think's really making the calls here? It's like, maybe Sullivan.

You know what I mean? But it's never her. She's never one of the people who's like... And so in a sense, my point is, in a sense, she doesn't really own this administration. Like, she can kind of vaguely just go like, yeah, no, no, no, I'm not running on a continuation of the Joe Biden administration. And so she's able somewhat plausibly to get away with this. And it's remarkable. It's just remarkable to watch.

Listen, she sat down for her first interview. Dude, Donald Trump does so many interviews that it's not even that noteworthy. Donald Trump just did another interview with Mark Levin. We might play a little bit of that. He just did another interview. He's doing interviews with Theo Vaughn. He's doing interviews with people in the corporate media. Donald Trump could just do interviews.

Kamala Harris in her first interview, they aired 18 minutes of it. I think about that for a second that she said to know it gets so much worse. Not only did she do 18 minutes, she did it with a partner, with her vice president. So take that 18 minutes of time now that she's got to fill and you roughly you split it up like nine minutes each except there's also time when the interviewer is asking questions. So like I mean I don't know the exact number of time that Kamala Harris spoke for but it's in like five minutes something like five minutes is what she got with Dana bash the most

sympathetic you know person for the Kamala Harris campaign so she sat down after not not giving us anything since she's been running for president she gave us five minutes of a softball interview a softball interview and did terribly. She could not pull it off. She could not just do a decent job for the few minutes that she was speaking. It did, I mean, I'm curious to get your thoughts. We're gonna play, we're gonna go through some of the interview here.

It did certainly, at least for me, reinforce your understanding of why they're trying to avoid her doing these type of interviews. It's pretty obvious, even from just the few minutes of questions that, if the questions were not given to her already before the debate, they were easily predictable. Let's just say that there were no questions that were asked that weren't like, you obviously would have been game planning for that There was a very obvious questions, and she just could not pull it off. It was unbelievable

You know while you're talking it's kind of what you were saying in theme last week with the the machine, and it's basically a Deep state presidency where we can all pretend like this lady's in charge Just vote the deep state back in and then we can all clap ourselves that we got a lady in who's not actually gonna Run the show Yeah, well look I mean right here maybe would be worse but look with Joe Biden you there's a several things that were revealed from Joe Biden's political collapse and several things that were revealed from Joe Biden's political collapse. And one of them is, is that look, obviously like after that debate and his subsequent interviews,

it was very clear Joe Biden is just, he's just deteriorated too much to be able to run for president. But you got to imagine, right? Nobody understood that deterioration more than the people who are around Joe Biden. It's not like us where we just see what is publicly available. These guys are in meetings with him. Like if we're all just being real, the people who are around Joe Biden all day long, every day, they've clearly seen how bad it is and they've known for quite a while.

And so the other thing that's kind of revealed from the Joe Biden experience is that that was never an issue for them. The fact that the President of the United States is cognitively impaired, that's quite fine with the powers that be. Now they may have been upset that they were like, oh, he's so bad that he can't actually win an election and they clearly don't want Donald Trump to get back in there. But it does kind of let you know that look, nobody, nobody, not one powerful person has come out and said anything, even indicating, right? Like when you found out Joe Biden was too senile to run for president, none of them have gone. Well, we got a real problem here because if he's senile, he can't be president until January. It was till January 20th.

We got a new president and this guy is clearly, he's not up to debating someone. If he's not up to debating someone, he's not up to doing interviews, then he's not up to the job. The job is way more difficult than that. You know what I mean? And so it lets you know that actually the people who are the most powerful in our system are quite happy with not having a president. They're like, yeah, let us just run this. That's fine. And so, right, that lets you know. And that seems to be, if you couple that with how Kamala Harris is running her campaign, it's like, yeah, that's essentially that's what they're going for here. It's another four years of just not

having a president. And yeah, you're right. Kamala Harris certainly wouldn't be the one who's in charge. I just I guess I can't overstate as somebody who does what I do, how crazy it is that she cannot pull off a five minute interview with Dana bash. Like she can't, she can't pull off just saying five minutes worth of stuff that you go, huh? That sounds, that sounds about right. That's pretty good. She can't, I mean in this world that we're in, we do, I mean, we do three hour long shows a week. I do tons of interviews and I've done so many over the years that I couldn't possibly even

like quantify. Like I don't even know what the ballpark number is. Hundreds, thousands, a ton. And we do like these long form shows. I mean how crazy is it that like the new kind of like the new world of big shows like at least just say the ones I do right where there's like millions the shows were like millions of people watch Rogan Tucker Tim pool Patrick bet David just did flagrant with Andrew Schultz these are all like two to three hours long.

I think my longest with Rogan was like three hours and 40 minutes. Um, there's, you know, uh, me and Schultz just did three hours, uh, the other day. Um, Patrick, but David's always, I think two hours and change, Tim pool about the same two hours and change. How insane is it that we live in this information economy where in order to be, uh, like say a successful voice in the podcast space, you have to be capable of doing multiple three

hour long interviews, let's say, I don't know, at least several, a quarter. You know what I mean? You're at least, I at least do like two or three of those every few months. And yet that's not demanded from the people who wanna be the commander in chief of the most powerful military in the history of the world.

Like, wouldn't it just, given like the technology that we have, where the landscape in this kind of world is, wouldn't it just be like the most logical conclusion that, I mean, I'm saying something reasonable, something like maybe once every other month, once every other month, the candidates would be required to sit down for like a real three hour grilling with an opposition interviewer.

You know what I'm saying? Like, doesn't this just sound like it would be such common sense that this would have to happen? And can you and yet this chick stumbles in a few minutes with a softball with the easiest questions. I thought it was interesting, some of the questions that Dana Bash asked and that she brought up some of the lies

that they've already been caught in and basically said, hey, would you like an opportunity to address this? And they basically said, no, we will pass on our opportunity to clarify. Thank you for having us on. It was almost like that for most of the interview, where it was kind of like, hey, I'm gonna bring up a thing

that's somewhat controversial about you, and then give you the floor to spin it in any way you want to. Here you go. And she'd go, yeah, well that's just silly stuff. And you'd just have nothing. I think the most talent, you had Tim Walls was Not even grilled grilled would be the wrong term hi

Would you like an opportunity to clarify the comments you made in regards to? Being at war or holding weapons of war whatever his dumb statement was of pretending like his military service was more than 18 years of a paycheck followed by hey guys lucky for me I've been around long enough that when we're actually going to war I'll just take my retirement check so good luck to you And I hope you have as good of a career here as I did that you know if they ask you to actually do anything You can just leave And so they asked him about this and he just goes I would never disparage other people the mirror tip that wasn't the question

No one said that you were disparaging other people the mirror to that wasn't the question no one yeah said that you were Disparaging other people of the military were claiming that maybe you've stolen some Some valor here and claimed that you had a better or you did more with your career than you actually did and he definitely Has by the way, I mean there's been a few different instances where he's pretty clearly I mean I don't know if there's a clip of him actually saying like, I was a combat vet or I am a combat vet or something like that, but he's several times intentionally said things in a way that like make it sound like he's saying he fought in war, which he didn't. Now, that is a big no-no in the military.

You're not supposed to claim you've done these things that you haven't done, you know, for understandable reasons. I just saw someone sent another clip, um, uh, to me, uh, a day or two ago where he's doing, he's doing it again. And it's not exactly that easy to pin him down, but he says something like, he's like, you know, I told the boys in Afghanistan, blah, blah, blah, blah, and he's referring, I guess his defense could be to when he took a trip over to Afghanistan when he was in Congress But he sure he sure does say it in a way where it like if you were just listening to it quickly It would sure sound like he's saying he served in Afghanistan. It's like Frank Reynolds when he goes when I was served

goofy I'll fix it. But it's like it's like Frank Reynolds when he's like when I was over in Vietnam And they were like yeah, you had shirt slaves there. Yeah, because you went to Vietnam in the 80s or something Alright guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show Which is moink if you guys have been listening for a while, you know, I absolutely love this company Let me tell you about it. Moink is the way to avoid all of this questionable meat that we find in this country and go straight to family farms. The business is simple.

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All right, let's get back into the show. All right. Let's, uh, um, as Rob is hopefully fixing his, uh, his camera here, let's, uh, let's get back into the show. All right, let's as Rob is hopefully fixing his his camera here. Let's let's let's pull up the first start from the top. Let's start from the beginning of the CNN long awaited interview with Kamala Harris and company. And Vice President Governor Wells, thank you so much for sitting down with me and bringing the bus. The bus tour is well underway here in Georgia. You have less time to make your case to voters than any candidate in modern American history.

The voters are really eager to hear what your plans are. If you are elected, what would you do on day one in the White House? Well, there are a number of things. I will tell you, first and foremost, one of my highest priorities is to do what we can to support and strengthen the middle class. OK, just pause it already. Pause it already.

We are seconds into Kamala Harris speaking. And she is already. Pause it already. We are seconds into Kamala Harris speaking and she is already, this is just terrible. Oh my God, it's so bad. It is, look, I don't even know how to say it. It is the most like stock question. Is that a good way to put it? It's the most like if you, if you just said like, you if you just said like like if you were talking to like an AI program and you said write me you know five of the most generic questions to ask a presidential candidate, one of them would be what are you going to do on day one? And the whole point of asking someone the question and this is why Dana Bash opens with the question is because it's a it's a lob. It's a big softball right down the middle.

All you got to do is swing. You're going to knock this one out of the park. The way you do it, the whole game here, is you're supposed to just seem competent. And the way you just seem competent is you have specifics. That's kind of the goal of a question like this to go, Hey, what are you, you know, if you ask me, right? With my views, you go, Dave, what are you going to do when you get in there? Day one, like right off the top of your head, you could just go like, well, I'm going to pardon Ross Ulbrich and I'm going to, uh,

I'm going to commute his sentence. I'm going to give a full pardon to Julian Assange and Ed Snowden. None of these guys ever should have been charged the way they were but you know what I mean like you just you can say some things that are consistent with your agenda that it's like hey look here's something tangible the president can do and I'm gonna get this done on day one her answer immediately you're supposed to give specifics to that question and she goes to good stuff for the middle class?

You go, what? That's okay. Here, let's keep playing. Listen to her answer, how incoherent this is. Inspirations, the goals, the ambitions of the American people. I think that people are ready for a new way forward in a way that generations of Americans have been fueled by hope and by optimism. I think sadly, in the last decade,

we have had in the former president someone who has really been pushing an agenda and an environment that is about diminishing the character and the strength of who we are as Americans, really dividing our nation. And I think people are ready to turn the page on that. All right. Let's pause it here. Day one. Okay. Dana Bash has to repeat the question. That's how bad she does on the first question. She just says nothing, just vague. By the way, she does this thing.

I'm sure you noticed this Rob, but it's like one of her techniques. And this of course is, is at the center of the Kamala Harris strategy here is that she has nothing to say. She has nothing to say. And so what she'll do is draw out every point, try to take up as much time. She is the... Do you remember, Rob, like, okay, so when we were young and like computers had, were fairly new and like writing a paper on a computer was kind of a new thing in our generation. I know for you young people listening out there,

that sounds crazy, but, uh, people used to always like, um, figure out like what font would take up the most space. So like there would be like, if you had to write a three page paper, there'd be some fonts where you would, you'd be at two and a half pages. But then if you change the font, it would take up three pages. And so you'd go, Oh look, I got my three pages at that's the whole Kamala Harris campaign. And she's like, how big can I make the font? What fonts can I put this in that gets me through here?

And this is why she repeats synonyms, but she she'll use three words that all mean the same thing You know the hopes the goals and the aspirations of the American people Okay, like was it really necessary to say all three of those things no, but it's cuz you don't actually have anything to say necessary to say all three of those things? No. But it's because you don't actually have anything to say. Over the last 10 years, Donald Trump has really pushed a program and a climate and a culture and an environment of downplaying the best of America. It's like the question was day one. The whole point of that is that you give specifics and then Dana has to just repeat the freaking question. That I just, I'm saying, man, I like, you can't overstate this. Imagine you're finally doing an interview.

You get the easiest interviewer you can possibly find. You bring your vice president with you. It's only going to be 18 minutes long, or at least that's what they're going to give us is 18 minutes. You only have to speak for a few minutes. The first question is a question that you easily could have predicted within the first 10 minutes of sitting down with your people. You go, this is the question you're going to get asked. So script an answer for this question. And she blows it. She blows it so bad that the interviewer has to just repeat the question.

I don't know, man. It's like unbelievable. And she doesn't have the Joe Biden excuse. It's not like, man, she's in her 80s and hit her bad. So it's kind of like she's in her 90s. All right. She doesn't have that. Just I don't know.

Just not very impressive I think mixed with some anxiety about these situations mixed with the fact that she's actually not running on anything all right let's keep going day one it's gonna be about one implementing my plan for what I call an opportunity economy I've already laid out a number of proposals in that regard, which include what we're gonna do to bring down the cost of everyday goods, what we're gonna do to invest in America's small businesses,

what we're gonna do to invest in families, for example, extending the child tax credit to $6,000 for families for the first year of their child's life to help them buy a car seat, to help them buy baby clothes a crib There's the work that we're gonna do that is about investing in the American family around affordable housing a big issue in our country Right now, so there are a number of things on day one Okay, okay, so let's again this is even when she's asked the question again, all of this

it look, it's just vague nothingness invest in people and enhance the child tax credit. I mean, she listed off three things that are I will say as a dad, you do need all three of those things. Like that's impressive impressive What'd she say car seat? baby formula Clothes like okay, that's good. Those are three things that humans need when they are reproducing But she didn't like explain the plan and all of these things are just vague, you know investments in the middle class tackling housing costs the affordability of the economy. It's like, okay, you've said that like you've broadly mentioned issues. There's nothing about what your plan is or what you're

going to do. And by the way, none of that was a day one answer. These were all things that you'd need legislation from Congress for the day one should be like, what executive orders are you going to write? What you know, like what with the power of the presidency can you alone do? Nothing just nothing on it. So I I don't know. I mean like I Obviously, i'm biased but I even watching it could not believe it started off like that That's the opening of the interview couldn't even just nail one thing Yeah, you would think

Have some sort of a plan. This is the softball question. Hey, what's your plan day one day one? We're bringing down prices, you know I'm gonna bring down prices and then just say something have something not we're gonna Oh on the first day we're gonna get together and we're gonna hold hands We're gonna tell everyone things are gonna be better And then we're gonna start thinking about what we can do to help the people in the middle And maybe the people on the bottom too, and then maybe we'll even get to the people on the top Like your answer your first thing is implement my agenda

Well Well, well, yeah. But what is that even? It's like, what's the first thing that you're going to do as president? I will be the president. Yeah, sure. But like, I don't know something. Okay. Let's, let's, let's actually go to the second clip that they have here, because it's it's you know it drags on like this Even there it's kind of funny because the bash goes hey Tim you got anything you want to add to this You want to cover for dummy over here? Yeah, it is kind of like a thing where it's like alright well now go to you

Can you crack something can you get on base because nothing from there? And then he basically it's just the I'm with stupid stickers. That's it and just goes I'm here for whatever She's gonna do I'm on board with it. It's exciting stuff All the things she said we're not actually gonna do and bribe families with the six thousand dollar tax credit and whatever else She said I think is great Alright guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is Babel if you want to learn a new language The best way is to uproot your entire life drop yourself in the middle of a new country and figure it out from there But if you're not ready for that, you can still learn a language the next best way and that is Babel Speak like a whole new you with Babel, the science-based language learning app

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the Biden HarrisHarris administration wait three and a half years to implement sweeping asylum restrictions? Well, first of all, the root causes work that I did as vice president that I was asked to do by the president has actually resulted in a number of benefits, including historic investments by American businesses in that region.

The number of immigrants coming from that region has actually reduced since we began that work. But I will say this, that Joe Biden and I and our administration worked with members of the United States Congress on an immigration issue that is very significant to the American people and to our security, which is the border. And through bipartisan work, including some of the most conservative members of the United States Congress, a bill was crafted, which we supported, which I support.

And Donald Trump, God word, of this bill that would have contributed to securing our border and because he believes that it would not have helped him politically he told his folks in Congress don't put it forward he killed the bill a border security bill that would have put 1,500 more agents on the border and let me tell you something the Border Patrol endorsed the bill and I'm. And I'm sure in large part because they knew they were working around the clock and 1500 more agents would help them. That bill would have allowed us to increase seizures of fentanyl. Ask any community in America that has been devastated by fentanyl what passing that bill

would have done to address their concern and a pain that they've experienced. So you would push that legislation again. Can we take this apart? Yeah, yeah, let's pause this for a minute because it is worth taking apart because this is, and I will say, on the Kamala Harris curve, she reasonably at least answered that question and she's got at least the talking point memorized. This is what they're going with. It is, sorry, you go ahead. I is what they're going with.

It is. Sorry. You go ahead. I'll jump in with with my thoughts. We've talked a bit about this before. OK. First is the fact that they don't mention the framework of the question is very forgiving and that they don't talk about parole in any capacity, which was one of the big tools by which they got a lot of people over the border, kept them out of detention centers and incentivized people to come into the country. The question was, over the three years that you were in charge, why was it as high?

And she doesn't address that. She basically says, well, towards the end, we were able to fix it. The reason it's dropped off is because coming into the election season, it's so unfavorable. They got rid of the amnesty, and so you don't have as many people coming over. This whole thing about them having some sort of a plan to fix it, they were trying to legalize what's been illegal so far. Joe Biden basically claimed, hey, I'll start closing the border after 5,000 people cross a day

without explaining why you can't just do it now, why you don't have authority to do so. And by the way, they didn't, no mention of the parole system whatsoever, explaining why you can't just do it now, why you don't have authority to do so. And by the way, they didn't, no mention of the parole system whatsoever, which essentially is they just parole people and say, hey, you're now allowed to be in the U.S. They don't even go through the amnesty thing. This administration did what it wanted to do to get as many people over the border as it could, possibly because they're looking for voters down the line or they have some

other agenda and they want, but they wanted this amount of people to come over the border and they successfully got this amount of people over the border. And so just one, she's not answering the question of the three years that you were supposed to, by the way, borders are, you were the borders are, you're already shifting the question here to be favorable to go, oh, you were root causes just in the northern. No, they called you the borders are and they called you the borders are because Joe Biden didn't want to look bad doing this and said, Hey, I got dummy over here and I guess she's good for one thing, which is I can label her as being responsible

for this problem. That's why you were given the title. So just to put a button on. Okay, yes, sure. No, no, no, go ahead. No, I'm just saying it was already a favorable question that you didn't ask her about the borders are thing. You're not mentioning parole. So you're already kind of given a turn saying, all right, giving her the opportunity to say, well, I had more limited position and it worked in year three

without actually addressing, well, what about parole and what about amnesty? And why is it that you guys lied about the 5,000 person limit and what about amnesty and why is it that you guys lied about the? 5,000 person limit and what happened here? So Is that and and this is something we've we've like extensively broken this down I think people who listen and watch this show will kind of know this by now But there is a very easy to detect difference between an actual tough interview, uh, when the corporate press is actually has the knives out for someone.

And what this is where it's, it's designed to give the appearance of, Hey, I asked you the tough question. Um, but of course, as you've pointed out there, Rob, precisely, she's not actually asking the tough question. She's, she's basically going, Rob, precisely. She's not actually asking the tough question. She's basically going, hey, this is the knock on you. Now here's a platform for you to dispel that idea. And what she's not going to do is be constantly interrupting or do the thing, the bookmark thing that I've pointed out before,

where like if it was with Trump or like one of the Republicans who they really have the knives out for, she would ask the question in a much tougher way, let you give the answer, interrupt a few times while you give the answer, and then at the end she would go, experts have concluded that everything you said is just wrong, but moving on, but you know what I mean like that, like they're not going to do that with Kamala Harris. Look, leave aside for a second, because what's interesting about this answer is that this is one of the answers where Kamala Harris actually got it right in the sense that she memorized their talking point

and she's like, I have something to say about this. I remember, we were coached on this. I'm gonna say the thing. And you're like, this is what they're going with. Now, leave aside the fact that the bill she's referring to was horrible. It would not have solved the problem at all and was just terrible. Leave that aside. Let's say her point here is correct. That, okay, let's say the

bill was perfect and the bill would have solved the problem. You've got a few major issues with this defense that I think is going to make this a very difficult sell. Number one, as Dana Bash even alluded to in the question, which of course will not get answered, and then there'll be no one pushing back on like, hey, but you didn't answer the point she was making. Why'd it take three and a half years? This is the first one that's really, really difficult

for you to get, you go, you come in to your administration, there is a crisis. It's the worst it's ever been. It is this way for three and a half years before you finally get a bill, uh, that you claim would have solved it. It wouldn't have, but leave that aside for now. Now you're going to go with this thing that it's Donald Trump's fault that it failed. Now I will be honest here. Now you're going to go with this thing that it's Donald Trump's fault that it failed now I will be honest here. I

Have heard it repeated by many Democrats that Donald Trump got on the phone with Republicans to kill this deal. I Do not know if that's true or not I there it seems like they've been fairly light on the actual evidence that this happened. But okay, you know what? For the sake of argument, let's grant you that that did happen. It certainly is possible that, and this is the way politics works, unfortunately, if the Biden administration was about to solve the immigration crisis. Of course Republicans and Donald Trump would be kind of incentivized not to let them solve that problem. This is not a

Trump issue. This is a politics issue. This is very it's all look the incentive structure is just all out of whack so if A demo if there's a Republican president and a Democrat running against them in an election year, they don't want that president to solve any problems. They want all the problems to still be there so they can run against the problems up until November and then they can say they're gonna solve the problem. That's the way it works. So it's not beyond, you know, the realm of possibility that maybe Donald Trump was trying to kill that bill. Regardless of that, the major problem you're going to have if you're Kamala Harris trying to sell this is that you're still at the end of the day, your administration still failed to solve this problem and you're blaming a guy who was out of power at the time.

It's just it's kind of like if if let's say in the 2020 election, there was some type of crisis. I mean, there were there were a lot of crises in 2020. 2020, but let's say that there was any major crisis and Donald Trump said, it's Obama's fault. It's just politically, it's a very tough sell to say four years later. It's the guy who was in power four years ago is fault. That's already just a tough sell, but the real killer, the real killer to all of this is that Donald Trump owned the issue

of closing the border. That was his issue, not yours. He ran on building a wall. You guys ran on how racist and awful it is to build a wall. And now your claim is essentially we would have got that wall built if it wasn't for the big bad Donald Trump who came in. You know what I'm saying? Like there's just there's no way that Kamala Harris can credibly sit here and say no, no, no, no, no. We would have closed the border. It's just this pesky Donald Trump.

Like it's just too impossible. It was your central. It was his central issue and your central issue was opposing that. So anyway, I mean, Donald Trump should be able to find a way to tear this apart. We'll see if he actually can. But anyway, so it was, it was probably of the interview, one of her better answers to the questions and it's just still, you're like, dude, that's like, that is, that is a really tough sell to any group of people,

even Americans. And in any interview with follow-up questions or a slightly more critical person asking the questions, she's not going to be able to dodge or weave her way out of it. Yeah, it's going to be very tough, very tough. I mean, but like what you would love to see is almost what we were able to do with Cuomo, which is borders are, all right, well here's the video.

Right, right, yeah. What do you mean you weren't the borders are? So then what was that claim? And then, okay, when you say that you guys had a comprehensive bill, why was it that you don't have the authority to work on the border with the 5,000 people? And then by the way, I don't think

they changed the amnesty thing until afterwards. All right, well getting rid of the amnesty has seemed to reduce the border crossings by this. Why didn't you do that right away? Why did you guys wait more months after the Republicans, you know, rejected your 5,000 bill? Why wouldn't you bring down the 5,000 person number? You've paroled this many people in and you made no mention of that in your amnesty bill. Why is it that you've paroled so many people? What you made no mention of that in your amnesty bill. Why is it that you've paroled so many people? What's your plan for parole?

There's just so many things that you could very easily be asking. And by the way, we deserve answers on, but I don't think we'll ever actually have that conversation. Yeah, probably not. Here, let's keep playing the interview a little bit. I'll only push it. I will make sure that it comes to my desk and I would sign it. Just one other question about something that you said in 2019 when you first ran.

There was a debate you raised your hand when asked whether or not the border should be decriminalized. Do you still believe that? I believe there should be consequence. We have laws that have to be followed and enforced that address and deal with people who cross our border illegally. And there should be consequence. And let's be clear in this race, I'm the only person who has prosecuted transnational. I'm sorry, I didn't catch this the first time. But that

doesn't answer would you prefer that it's decriminalized? It's it's no words the question was conceptually Do you think that we should just have an open border and anyone should be allowed to come in? Because we need to be nice to everybody now. How does that play out? Whatever? We don't even need to go with follow-up questions Do you think that we should just have an open border and her response was well at the moment? It's illegal so I would enforce that the fact that it is illegal and by the way I'm the one person that knows how to enforce illegal stuff because I was a prosecutor But while I was president I tried to get his or vice president

I was a part of administration that tried to get as many people over as possible But that's quite a pivot from the actual question of do you believe that this should be decriminalized? Well, I think it needs to be enforced because it's not. It's literally like if I was like, if I stood up and I go, hey, I think marijuana should be decriminalized, which I do, and it is for the most part, and I think in most places these days, at least when you walk down the street, sure smells like it is, but okay, so if I go, Hey, I think marijuana should be decriminalized. There could be a lot of arguments for why you think you know, I don't think people should go to jail for marijuana or whatever. And then you asked me two years later, you went, Well, now you're saying people should go to jail for

marijuana. So like, did you change your mind from back then? And I go, what I've always believed is that there's laws and there ought to be consequences and there ought to be penalties You know, like but that's the opposite of saying it should be decriminalized The whole point of saying something should be decriminalized is that there shouldn't be penalties for it That's the crime part and the D part is when you're saying there shouldn't be penalties for it so obviously she's like it's just impossible to say you haven't changed on this, which like, again, you could just come up with a reasonable answer for why you changed your mind on this. But she doesn't want to sound weak or admit that she changed her mind. But what we all know is that it's just like, yeah, she's like, I don't know, I was running in a

primary in 2019. And back then, it was real popular to say, open the borders. And then we open the borders. And it turned out the consequences of that were very unpopular. And so now, I'm going with the popular opinion again, which is like, yeah, we should stop the flow of migrants coming into the country. But this look, this is the essence of Kamala Harris. the flow of migrants coming into the country. But this, look, this is the essence of Kamala Harris. I mean, this is her right here, is that she doesn't believe in anything. She doesn't believe in anything other than getting power.

And that's kind of what's revealed. It's like, I don't know, if the path to getting power was to promise to open the borders, then she'd promise to open the borders. And if the path to getting power is to promise to close the borders, then she'll promise to open the borders. And if the path to getting power is to promise to close the borders, then she'll promise to close the borders. Anything in between. That's, that's, it's really that simple. All right, guys,

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to enforce our laws. And I would enforce our laws as president going forward. I recognize the problem. Generally speaking... There's also... You got to pause there again. There's also a funny admission there, which is, all right, so if you worked it as a prosecutor and firsthand you saw people were being smuggled, you saw that weapons were being smuggled, and

you saw that criminal activity was coming over the Mexican border into the United States of America. Why would you prefer a political policy that allows more people to come up? If you saw firsthand that there was a criminal consequence to people just being able to come up over our border, why would you not want to have more control over the border? Well, look, I mean, your argument could be and I don't agree with this argument in terms of immigration. But like, let's say you could have an argument that that's why we have to decriminalize border

crossings. No, but you would have to decriminalize drugs. You'd have to decriminalize the weapons. You'd have to actually get rid of the black markets. But let's just say you were like, hey, you could make an argument that like, hey, if you just decriminalize the border crossings, then it's not going to be underground anymore. Then they don't the people coming over don't have to rely on coyotes and things like that. Like I'm

just saying there's an argument that you could make there. I'm not saying it's the correct one, but you could make an argument there, but then why would you flip back again? Right? Why would you, why would you be for decriminalizing it, and now you're for criminalizing it? If your argument is that, no, I saw all this stuff as a prosecutor in California, then I was for decriminalization. Now I'm for criminalization. You're still not getting through all of those without having an answer.

But that's what she's attempting to do. All right, let's keep playing. How should voters look at some of the changes that you've made, that you've explained some of here in your policy? Is it because you have more experience now and you've learned more about the information? Is it because you were running for president in a Democratic primary? And should they feel comfortable and confident that what you're saying now is going to be your policy moving forward? Dana, I think the most important and most significant aspect of my policy perspective

and decisions is my values have not changed. You mentioned the Green New Deal. I have always believed, and I have worked on it, that the climate crisis is real, that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time. We did that with the Inflation Reduction Act. We have set goals for the United States of America and by extension the globe around when we should meet certain standards for reduction of greenhouse gas emissions as an example. That value has not changed. My value around what we need to do to secure our border.

That value has not changed. I spent two terms as the Attorney General of California prosecuting transnational criminal organizations, violations of American laws regarding the passage Illegal passage of guns drugs and human beings. Okay, let's let's pause it for a second Do you not just see I mean look the point i'm making here, right? that She is doing an interview here for a few minutes Right, like if you do all the math of how long she's actually talking in her first interview, it's a few minutes and she's,

do you see the way she's repeating herself making the same point that she just made? Like in this few minutes, like you can't be like, you know, people give me shit. Sometimes if I'll go like I'll go on Rogan and I'll make a point that I've made before on Rogan, like I made it like four years ago and then it comes up again and it's like, yeah, I don't know, dude, we like, I don't know. We've done 85 hours since then. I don't even remember that I made this point here, but it's like, yeah, five minutes. I repeated myself. Shit.

I shouldn't have done that in those 18 hours. I shouldn't have repeated myself for five minutes of them. She's repeating herself in a matter of a few minutes. And then the, like I said before, the, uh, the techniques where she just uses filler, she just says more words than are necessary. So she can be like, is that font good enough now? Did I fill three pages? Like the, she literally says we have to have metrics and deadlines around time. If you, if you use the word deadline, do you think it's necessary

after that to specify that it'll be around time? It won't, Rob, it won't be one of those timeless deadlines that you're used to, right? One of my favorite things, one of my favorite things about the word deadline is that it already has built into it an assumption that this exists in the context of time and that a time will be embedded in said deadline. You don't need to say a deadline attached to time, but she does this constantly, and it's all to just get away from the bullshit, which is that she's clearly changed her position on these things.

You used to be for the Green New Deal, now you're not for the Green New Deal. Talk to me all day about deadlines for time, but that's different. And you can't just say, oh, we passed the Inflation Reduction Act. That was basically the green new deal it's like i don't know it sure sounds like from the name of that bill that it was supposed to reduce inflation now you got a pesky little problem that inflation rose after the bill was

passed so you had an increase in inflation so now we're supposed to look back at a bill and still call it the inflation reduction act Yet brag about how it tackled climate change aka made things more expensive I Don't know any thoughts yes well for starters. I love her the interview name her name is Dana bash Dana Dana, I don't know how you say it well Well, okay, we should be that's a white name We should be able to get it right, but I like that I think Kamala gets it wrong and calls her Donna Which is just funny for being the person making a stink out of how people put I've always called her Dana bash

But I might be saying it wrong. Well camel camelot calls her Donna Which is funny and then also Dana does a nice thing where she goes, is it experience? She gives her the answer to go, yes, I've learned a lot in my last couple years of what the American people are looking for, and as I wanna make sure that I'm representing them, and then that's why I have this new position.

But what she does here is, man have my and I already forgot what was the question about it was the green new deal right her value no we've not changed right it was about all the flip-flopping but it's incredible to go my values haven't changed and wait now you want to implement policy that doesn't represent your values why is that your goal so you're gonna go through all the process of becoming president you think you've got better ideas for how we should work everything But you're not gonna implement the ideas around your value and then how are the voters supposed to know? So what it what policy will you implement?

So if you had values a couple years ago that you said were deeply profound to you and people like those values Should they not be voting for you because you won't be implementing policy around those values? Well, the thing is, look, I mean, if I'm going to be a stickler here, look, you could argue that your values haven't changed and your policies have. Like that can happen. I mean, like I've changed my mind on a lot of issues over the years. And I think I could say my values didn't change but my My positions changed like you could say like my value is always that like, you know My values are that we do what's good for people or that we have human flourishing or that we have whatever Then I used to think this policy was right But now I think it's wrong but that is nothing to do with the question

The question is you used to support this policy, now you're against it. Why did you change your mind? And so to just make this appeal to vague values, like, OK, fine. But the question is, why did you change your mind? If you used to be for loose immigration restrictions and now you're for tighter immigration restrictions, I could say, well well my values haven't changed I've always been for what's best for the country But you'd be like, okay, but that's not the question. The question is why did you change you'd be like, oh, okay

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So that is the reality of it and four years of being vice president. I'll tell you one of the aspects to your point is traveling the country extensively. I mean, I'm here in Georgia. I think somebody told me 17 times since I've been vice president in Georgia alone. I believe it is important to build consensus,

and it is important to find a commonplace of understanding of where we can actually solve problems. On that note, you had a lot of Republican speakers at the convention. Will you appoint a Republican to your cabinet? Yes, I would. Anyone in mind? Yes, I would. No one in particular in mind.

I got 68 days to go with this election, so I'm not putting the cart before the horse, but I would. I think it's really important. I have spent my career inviting diversity of opinion. I think it's important to have people at the table when some of the most important decisions are being made that have different views, different experiences. And I think it would be to the benefit of the American public to have a member of my cabinet who was a Republican. All right, we can leave it there. Chaney.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, we can end the video there. Exactly. Liz Chaney. It's just funny. Like, it's like, it's all all this stuff is to give the illusion of some type of, oh, yeah, we totally like report a point to a Republican. That way you have Democrats and Republicans and that way we have diversity

of thought or something. It's like, no, you would hire a Republican who already supports the status quo because that's what you are. A supporter of the status quo. It doesn't matter even like if you were to say, Oh, do they have the same positions as her? Like what positions? Doesn't have any positions. It's like, yeah, if it'll help her get power, then sure. She'd put a Republican in there. The thing is that,

and I think more and more people are onto this. It's like, yeah, cause the Republicans fucking suck. That's why it's like, yeah, it's like the democratic establishment and the Republican establishment are the, they're the two most corrupt organizations in the country So sure she'll put one of them there But that doesn't mean anything because the divide isn't over Republican and Democrat the divide isn't over left and right It's not even over libertarian and status like that's not really the divide that matters The divide is the stop the establishment versus the dissidents,

the corrupt versus the not corrupt, those fighting for like big moneyed interests and those fighting on behalf of the people. That's the only divide that really matters. And so, yes, she would be quite happy to reach across the democratic establishment, Republican establishment divide. But that's not what matters. Would she reach across the divide of regime shill versus dissidents? No, you will not see a dissident in Kamala Harris's government. Which will you see someone who's not corrupt? No, that's all that really matters. Okay, so I don't know what else to say

other than what we started with, if I'm zooming out and saying my takeaways. I'm kind of shocked by how bad she did in this. And I didn't think she'd do well, but when I found out, so first it was like, I found out that it was Dana Bash on CNN. Then I found out she was bringing him along with her. And then the day of I found out that they were only releasing 18 minutes of

it. And I kind of, my attitude was like, wow, I can't believe it. So they're actually going to do that so that she can pull it off and look fine. You know, she'll have like a few, literally all you had to do was come in with like three scripted answers and you'd be like, okay, fine. So she pulled it off. It's like nothing. Basically nothing came of this. That's what I was expecting. And she did a lot worse than I expected. Um, and I gotta say, you know, here I'll say this to rap. If you, if you just zoom out over where we are right now,

okay, I don't know how much you can trust the polls. over where we are right now. Okay. I don't know how much you can trust the polls, but there's clearly has been like a change since Harris got in the race and Biden got out. But the latest I was just looking over they had it was essentially tied. I mean, it was in the margin of error. And so that is there is an accomplishment there for the Democrats, that they've gotten this thing back to a coin flip of a race.

That seems to be the best indication. I would just say this, and this is why I would still say right now, assuming there's a legit election, assuming to some degree that we have free and fair elections or something close to that, I would say Donald Trump is still the real favorite right now. Um, and I would say it like this. Donald Trump has always done better than he's polled. The point I make a lot. He was down in the polls to Hillary Clinton. He did better than he was polling. He was down in the polls to Hillary Clinton. He did better than he was polling.

He was down in the polls to Joe Biden. He did better than he was polling in 2020. Against Joe Biden, due to what a disaster his four years have been and the fact that the guy literally lost his mind, Donald Trump, for the first time in one of these presidential elections, was up by a pretty substantial margin in the polls. At one point he was winning every swing state, I believe. Now they've had this switch out and now the polls have essentially returned back to not back to better than typical for Donald Trump.

So he's doing better in the polls right now than he was against Hillary Clinton in 2016. He's doing better in the polls right now than he was against Hillary Clinton in 2016 He's doing better in the polls right now than he was against Joe Biden in 2020 So he's still doing better than historic just not as good as he was against Joe Biden a few months ago but the major thing you got going on here is that Kamala Harris is going to have to debate Donald Trump at least once and She's gonna have to do at least a couple more of these interviews There's no way they're gonna be able to get her over the finish line without that at least once and she's going to have to do at least a couple more of these interviews. There's no way they're going to be able to get her over the finish line without that. Maybe they'll try.

Maybe they'll try to find some excuse for why she can pull out of the debate or some excuse for why she won't do more interviews. But I'm, I'm going to guess they're going to have to send her out on a few more of these. And that becomes the big X factor. You know, like after seeing her do this, this interview, it really does, even though I think we all knew what the game here was It does just make you have a whole different appreciation. You're like, oh, this is why they're avoiding This is why they're avoiding her doing these interviews and a debate is gonna be even tougher for this type of thing, so

That being said, you know, that essentially, I think just analyzing the thing, that's kind of where we're at. Donald Trump is probably the slight favorite right now. And he's got some big opportunities for her to do damage to herself. So this will be fun to keep an eye on, but I think that'd be my analysis

on the state of the race right now. And good luck in a debate. Mike's on or off. Doesn't matter. Good luck, lady. Yeah, it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough either way. Okay. All right. That's the show for today. Thank you guys very much for watching. I appreciate you guys come out and see us in Casper, Wyoming this weekend. Comic Dave Smith for all those ticket links, and PorchTour.com for all Rob Solo shows. Alright, catch you guys next time. Peace.