Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2001 Super Bowl: Patriots vs Rams - PART 2

Episode Date: June 16, 2020

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This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons, and of course Michael, sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to part two of a very special episode, the Super Bowl episode. We thought this was such a special one, and because Matt Chatham talked for as long as he did, we thought we'd split this into two episodes. So this is episode two of the Super Bowl, 2001 Super Bowl. So thanks for coming back to us. We're going to take you to Sunday, February 3, 2002 in Louisiana,

Superdome, pre-Katrina. This is the old Super Bowl. Your New England Patriots are facing the greatest show on turf the second time this season. The first one didn't go the Patriots way. And because of that, these Patriots are 14 point underdogs, the biggest underdogs I think in Super Bowl history. Wrong. Oh, that's true. They're not the biggest underdogs. They are the biggest underdogs. Who was the biggest underdogs? Not this time. Yeah, Greg, who was the biggest underdogs? I looked, I looked it up and there's some old one. There's 18. Really? Yeah. Oh, the, uh, was that the Joe Namath one? It might have been. I'll look it up. Guaranteed victory. I know the biggest blowout was, I don't think the spread was. I was talking about upsets. Yeah,

Jets called Super Bowl three 18 points spread. Wow. Didn't the only score like 18 points a game back then too? Yeah, the final score is 16 to seven. Well, we're not going to ruin the final score of this one. And I'm going to tell you who won. So we've already talked about the Rams really, because we saw them in week 10 talked about how great their offense is. They have a solid defense. Yada, yada, yada. Nothing huge in that. So I think we should probably just get into this game because this was a game that I felt like I'd watch more recent than I had, but I, there was a bunch of plays in here that were big plays that I could believe. Wait, can we, so can we talk about Kurt Warner first? Yeah. Go T. Because I, I, I went down

a Kurt Warner rabbit hole. Oh, I don't know. I love you rabbit holes. Let's hear it. His story is ridiculous. It's crazier than Brady's without a doubt. Really? Oh yeah. I don't care. Just his rise. Like he, he was a third string quarterback at the University of Northern Iowa. The power. So yeah. Yeah. Matt Chathams. I think the same conference. I think they worry. I think he's talking about that. So one double A. He goes undrafted in 1994, goes to the, gets picked up in the, for the Packers training camp competing with Brett Favre, Mark Grunel, and Ty Dettmer. Jesus. The coaches, Mike Holmgren, Steve Mariucci, and Andy Reed. God damn, that's a fucking powerhouse. Yeah. All three agree. He sucks. They cut him.

So then famously after he gets, he's stocking shelves at a grocery store for five, 50 an hour in Cedar Falls. Boy, you imagine anything more depressing? Yeah. Clean and pools. Hey, that was like $8 an hour. Doing it during a pandemic. Jesus. So then he goes to the arena league. And so in college too, as soon as he played a senior, lit it on fire. He goes to the arena league, lights it on fire. He like wins two arena bowls. He's like first in the league in yards and touchdowns, all these stats. He gets a tryout with the Bears. And before he goes, he goes on his honeymoon before training camp gets bit by a spider and can't compete at camp. Where did he go on his honeymoon? Australia. Gotta be Australia.

Yeah. Something fuck off spider bit of this. I see Sneaky, I think, you know how he was super religious. This is just a theory, but he wasn't, you know, he's saving himself for marriage. I don't even know if that's true. But as soon as he busted a nut instead of that like, you know, that like two minute more moment of clarity you have, he just had like a six month one. Just skip the bears. I fucked this dude. What am I doing? I can do more with my life. That's my theory. So then he goes to NFL Europe, plays for the Amsterdam admirals with his backup Jake Delon, didn't know that either. Yeah. He lights it on fire in Europe as well. So everywhere he goes,

he's just been tears it up. He ends up with the Rams. They pick them up as their fourth string quarterback and they put them up for the NFL expansion draft when the Browns were expansion. They were like, nah, we don't want them. And then he somehow ends up being the backup because they like traded Tony Banks and really Steve Bono. Yeah. And then Trent Green towards ACL. And all of a sudden your starter is Kurt Warner 1999. Yeah. What does he do? He throws for 4,300 yards, 41 touchdowns, 65% completion percentage, 14 touchdowns in his first four games. God, that's crazy. Yeah. Wins the MVP, wins the Super Bowl and the Super Bowl MVP all in his first season in the NFL. Just a ridiculously meteoric rise. How old was he when he first got

a shot? Because he went 45. I was around, huh? Yeah, I mean, graduated college in 93. So, yeah. He was about 27-ish. Yeah. Graduated 21. Late 20s. Yeah. And then signs a seven-year contract right after that. He's got no shit. Imagine his wife. She must be like, God damn, I hit the jackpot. Finally, all that was worth it. This time last year, you were making five-fifth year out and I was a breadwinner in this house. Yeah, for real. And then the rest is kind of history. I mean, back-to-back MVP or two out of three years MVP. I mean, he lit it up in 01. So, this is his third year in the league and he's just been, this is like, I think the height of his career. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he falls apart after this game, but this is... Yeah,

actually, funny enough, it was a lot to do with the thumb. So, you get the thumb injury in this game and I think that carried him for like four years. I remember, I don't even think he got it in this game. I think he got it at the beginning of the season. Yeah, so they were saying on the broadcast. Because in the last game of the year, and he's still having issues with here, they're talking about him like having some like grabby thing, but he's always squeezing so that he can like try to get the thumb up. He's like, it'll maybe just never get better. Yeah. Strangely, I know what you mean when you say grabby. Yeah, exactly. Well, he springs, I'm guessing. Yeah. It was John Madden, so I'm pretty sure he actually said grabby. That may have been verbatim. I'm going to go on record

and say John Madden was a better commentator than I remember. Love them. I wrote that down too. Yeah, let's go there. John Madden, Pat Somerle. This was actually Pat Somerle's last ever game that he did. Good. Well, good. Pat Somerle was terrible. Yeah, he was brutal. He was awful. Well, he like started a sentence and then just not finish it. Are you going to say something? Pat Somerle's thing was that he would fall for every trick play that any team had. Yeah, because the Patriots did what they had been doing all season with a direct snap to Kevin Falk. He was like, oh, it's a high snap, and the ball goes over break. Oh, wait, no. Well, he's so like monotone too. And that one play was the one where you could tell he was actually surprised because he actually had some emotion

in his voice. He did. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was rough. But I agree with Stephen. I thought John Madden was a lot better than I remember because you remember just like all the stupid shit that he says. Yeah. Well, when you actually listen to him, like a lot of it is really good and really informative stuff. And you can see why he lasted as long as he did. I remember mom saying that she liked him because when she was learning the game, he would explain it. And sometimes he would like he dumb it down. So like stuff that like I'm like, yeah, no shit. But I remember that comment mom must have made years ago or she loved him because he would explain to her when she had no idea what the hell was going on. Right, absolutely. And he like jokes around too. Yeah, he was having a great

time with it. When the rest are talking about that holding call and the guy like held his hand for like 10 seconds. Did you see that part? He's like, you must got a good one. Look at his eyes. The referee was like, he had a point in which way he was going to do it. He's like, well, he doesn't know which way it's going. But you can tell by the look in the referee's eyes that he's got a good one because they're wide open. He was too. They got to stand there with his eyes wide over just holding it's fit. He did. He was very quotable. Well, I mean, my impression coming away for me because I've watched that final drive a ton is him like saying they shouldn't go for it and then doubling down, right? And you're like, I don't know anything. But you look at it from the big

picture, he's got a point where like they're on the 17 and whatever and some change left. Brady's a rookie. See his logic now. Yeah, they just gave up a touchdown in like a minute halfway through. He switches. He's like, you know what? Never mind. I'm on board with this. Yeah. Like, all right. Yeah, when he's rocked. Yeah. No, no. Listen to him back now. 20 years later, I've changed my I'm sure I know he's said some like silly things, but they're not very like stupid. Never wrong. Like you'd say for like a Dan Fouts, but they're not super biased either. He didn't seem to be like crazy biased. No, it was more just like excited to watch a football game. Kind of like you see with Tony Romo. These

were just excited to see that football game play. Yeah, it had that, that like joyful feeling to it to me. Also, this is the best Super Bowl logo of all time in my opinion. I play football logos. I don't even remember them really, but this one is awesome. This was the peak and then they they were kind of samey after this one. And then eventually they all got standardized now they're the same thing every year. Yeah, I don't know why they do that either. It's stupid. Yeah, I couldn't tell you. Apparently it's supposed to be something different too. What do you mean? Yeah, they had a different logo and they were like that they had sold some merchandise with the old logo and then obviously the 9-11 thing, there's a lot of patriotic themes

around the Super Bowl, so they ended up changing it. That makes sense. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, I just Google it. Yeah, like a very New Orleans theme looking logo. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I like the one they went with better. Yeah, look who did some research this week. I didn't watch the game, but did some wikipedia. Greg's also, he's like the rain man of Patriots football. He just remembers it. He doesn't have to watch it. Son of a bitch. Shout out Matt Chad and for putting me on to the LA Kiss television show. Dude, I watched like five episodes last night. Yeah, and it's worth watching. Dude, I'm gonna tell you something that it doesn't make me proud.

Kelly cried. Kelly cried in an episode three. Here's a like joy, here's a sadness, like what? Here's a joy. When BJ Bell, the underdog, made the team so he could play with his brother. Kelly was, it's a clear sign you're on quarantine. Well, I can hear in the background yelling at you. Oh yeah. She's been cussing from downstairs. Here's a happiness. All right, cheers. Kiss football team. So we may have to in the future do a like a bi-week episode or something. It's worth it. There's enough to talk about there to unpack, as they say. And it's like a mini series of like a review each episode. Yeah. Well, maybe not that much.

Yeah. Even better. All right, do you have any more? I had some some Kurt Warner notes actually. What do you got? So I'd noticed it in the last game, but they didn't talk about it, but he had this like, he had that big long face mask kind of like similar to Drew Bledsoe's. Yeah. But then it had like an extra loop at the bottom. Yep. Why the fuck does he have this? I just like to hang his tie on or something. I don't understand why it's that extra thing. But I actually talked about it in this game where apparently his vocal chords got injured somehow. Didn't explain how it happened. I guess he just got like a shot to the neck or something. But he couldn't talk. It's post-nut clarity.

But so they put that there while it was healing. So it wouldn't come because he apparently lost his voice for like a week or two. It's not a great thing. No. So they had it there for that and then they left it there. So it wouldn't get fucking crazy injury to get. Yeah. Does that even extend far enough down? No, I think it did because he took a shot like directly in that spot from William McGinnis at one point. Oh, yeah. He stayed in there late and just like, I think he actually ended up throwing the ball away. But like William McGinnis top of his dome was like right in his chin. So maybe it did help. He took a lot of shots in this game. He took a lot of shots in this game. At one point they said it was 11 hits through three quarters.

And he was also at this point he was second in NFL history in attempts without an interception in Super Bowl with 60. And then proceeded to throw two interceptions in the next 11 attempts. But I'm assuming that's been broken since because people just actually throw more passes in games in general. But yeah, there was I took a bunch of screenshots because there was a bunch of like steps that they put up on the on the Chevron at the bottom and there was some didn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, so I actually found a video when I was YouTubeing this of home video reactions to this game from like, yeah, some people in like these Boston fans and like the quality is what you'd expect. But oh yeah, one of the things they brought

up was like, where the fuck are they pulling these stats from? I swear to God, they're just throwing anything up there. It's true. Let me just give you a taste of some of them. So at the beginning, you know, when the Rams started the ball, they showed the rankings of the offense and defense. The Rams offense was best in the NFL, the Patriots defense somehow 24th in the NFL. Yeah, I don't know if they're using for that yards, probably, maybe even that. Yeah, 24 seems real low even for yards. Not sure what that was. But then moments later, they showed the Patriots defense have allowed one opening drive touchdown in the last 26. That's a pretty good stat. Oh, but there's a 24th ranked defense.

I'm not quite sure. It's got to be a yard. And then on the opposite side of the ball, this was also surprising. They showed the same stat, but reverse Patriots offense, 19th in the NFL, which feels about right. Yeah. You know, middle of the road kind of Rams defense. Anybody want to guess where they ranked in the NFL? Like fifth? Higher. Really? Third in the NFL. Yeah, they got to be using yards then because I don't know.

It's got to be something like that. Oh, yeah, I don't know what it is. So not, not great. Okay, there was a lot of, I'll do some more later, but there was a lot of, oh, this was one other one. The, the Patriots defense in the postseason, they were showing that the defense special teams who scored three touchdowns and the Patriots offense had also scored three touchdowns. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Goes back to our, uh, our three phases of the game. Defense wins championships. Yep. Can you, can you name the five Hall of Famers that started for the Rams in this game?

Oh, yeah. Yep. Warner? Yep. He's in Hall of Fame. Who's the left tackle? Ando Pace? Yep. Wow. Fuck.

And he is Williams. Yes. Wow. Well done, guys. I didn't think you'd get that. I don't think we'd get any of those. We got all five. Also the white defensive back Hall of Famer, Adam Archuleta. Yeah. Oh yeah, he was. Just taking snaps gets you in the white defensive back.

Him and Jason Seahorn. Yeah. Drey Bly was sick too. I loved Drey Bly. They had a good secondary. That's a pretty dope name too. Yeah. Because if you went by like Andre, and not as cool. Like Andre Bly.

Yeah, yeah. You got Drey Bly. Yo, Murphy. Yeah. I need to hear Berman. I tried to look up, see if Berman had a, like a prime time for this and I couldn't find it. Yeah. I was looking for it too.

And I couldn't find it either. Because a couple of my favorite Berman nicknames are in this Ricky Pearl, remember? Prell shampoo. And you see like Ricky Pearl Shampoos this way for a first down. Or I just hear Hakim when he's like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, Ah, it's Hakim. Oh, fuck, you didn't do that.

My favorite Bermanisms. Oh, they're all my favorite. Yeah. He's a genius. He really is. All right. I mean, should we talk about this game a little bit? I guess.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. So opening quarter, the Rams actually took the lead, which I've forgotten. It's the only lead they'd have. Like the 50 yard field goal, which at the time was the third longest field goal.

It was only the third field goal of over 50 yards. They put up a whole bunch of stats on that. Like, yeah, that's a third longest field goal. And he's like, yeah, one of three 50 yard field goals. Well, no shit. If it's a third longest field goal and it's 50 yards, then the other two are going to be at least 51 or more. And then that was kind of all that had.

The Pats didn't. They started a bit slow. I thought Antoine Smith. I kept like remembering him as more of a game changer in this season. But it felt like every game he would start off averaging like two yards a carry in the first half and then wear the team down

and would eventually end up averaging four yards a carry. Yeah. He got 92 yards and 5.11 per carry. And I feel like this game was the same thing. Like he started off the first, probably quarter and a half. Averaging like a yard a carry and then started wearing them down and bringing bigger runs. It's a Derek Henry effect.

Yeah, exactly. Same idea. We're going to Corey Dillon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to grab one as well. Um, second quarter was probably the most.

It runs actually to open the second quarter missed a longer field of 52 yards. Wait, wait, wait, wait. We're not doing best some worse for quarters. We're going to do it by the half. Oh, geez. Why? You got the best words for every goddamn quarter?

Yeah, of course. All right. You know what? Let's do it. Oh, good. I don't have any. I mean, neither of them. Fuck it.

We're showing bullshit stuff. There's a, you said we didn't do nothing in the first quarter. We set the tone. There's back to back plays where Tabaki like absolutely laid lumber. Oh, yeah. That one on the sidelines. Yeah. No, they over-serve a little bit.

He's de-cleaned with Isaac Bruce. Lav laying lumber on the crossover, right? They threw like a crosser, like a shallow crosser of Bruce. And like long as right there and just like whipped them down. I don't know. They were like, they came out and they were just hitting people everywhere. And the worst was first kick of the game was a 40 yard return. Yeah.

That's how the Rams started. The Rams won the opening toss, elected to receive the football, and then took the open kickoff out to the front. And then they punted it to like R1. Or three, actually. Yeah. Yeah. That was my best was Tom Brady's first snap in a Super Bowl,

was from his own three yard line, and he decided to go empty backfield and had him throw a quick slant to who else, Troy Brown. Yeah. And that was his first ever play from Scrimmage. That was pretty sweet. You got a best, Greg? Well, I do.

I didn't, I was kind of scared there for it because I don't remember either of those plays that you just mentioned. So I don't know if I just like zoned out for a bit, but I don't know if this is in the first quarter, but Madden or a summer all asked him, asked Madden if he had proud Bourbon Street earlier in the week. Yeah, I think that was the first quarter. He's like, I don't know if prowl is the right word,

but yes, I made a stop there on Tuesday. Monday and Tuesday. Yeah. I think that's all I had written down. We'll call best and worst. The worst, the question was the worst, answer was the best. Love it. All right, Steve, did you have a worst?

Did you do a worst? Yeah, just ridiculous to to yell. You can't get right to yell. Oh, also they came out as a team. They kind of set that whole bar. Most people remember that, but yeah. I have a note here. When did the crazy train intro start?

It was in place. They playing crazy train on the intro in the Super Bowl? Yeah. I don't know. Apparently I didn't watch the first quarter. Well, the YouTube one that we I thought they came out to crazy train. In my mind, they did. Well, we'll fact check it.

Also, there was a Super Bowl episode, something never changed. There's some there's some controversy about when this game was to be played, as Matt kind of mentioned in the interview. Yeah. Just because of the 9-11, they pushed everything back. And I guess they didn't do two weeks back then in between the conference game and the Super Bowl. I didn't think so.

Because I was thinking, why wouldn't they just make the two weeks one week and then keep it the same day? But they actually had to move this game back a week. Yeah. That's what I thought. Really? Yeah. So they must have only been doing one week at this point.

And apparently there's all sorts of discussions around whether they should like make the playoffs more compact, like play games midweek. Oh, no shit. Like cut out a week of the season. Because there was like some automobile show already booked in the stadium for that weekend. Yeah. Because I remember right after 9-11 happened in the Boston Globe, there was articles talking about how even directly after this happened,

NFL was already on the phone with like the people, like I think it was the Metrodome people. Superdome, rather. And they were like trying to convince them to push the auto show. Huge thing. And it's a fucking Super Bowl. Yeah, exactly. But they don't want to beat it, you know?

Apparently they did. A nasty field or something. But it was literally like a few days later they were talking about this. They were just like so compulsive. Yeah, so apparently they gave them financial considerations. And also they let them run free ads during the Super Bowl. Oh, shit. I don't know if it's for the cars or the...

Got to be, right? Show. Got to be the car manufacturer. If you gave me a chance to do a free ad during the Super Bowl. It would be so inappropriate. What would that look like? Oh, it'd be awful. I know that.

I just think that I'm mooning the camera at this point. Yeah, I think tone deaf would probably be a good way to describe it. A half-year beard is shaved. Yeah, exactly. Craig Brown wearing a thong that has an elephant trunk at the front and you're just swinging it around in a circle for 30 seconds. Hey, yeah, I googled the Crazy Train thing. There's a blog post by the guy who used to work for the pages

that did all of this. He said he did it in 98. Yep. So it started, he did start before that, yeah. They used to come out to jock jams. Are you ready for this? This is not a ring of bell. Also, did you know that Janet Jackson was supposed to perform halftime?

Really? But they pushed it. Yeah. And they pushed you too. Come on, you know that. Yeah, I don't. It's a beautiful day and they had all the names scrolling on the big sheet in the middle. You remember that, Steve?

Come on. Steve's just trying to be like too cool for pop culture right now. Steve was in the bathroom taking a shit at this point. I just looked up who did Crazy Train. Are you kidding me? I mean, imagine if this was, are they doing all this America stuff and then and then Justin Timberlake rips off Janet Jackson. That's how in depth.

Pity how. What a tribute. Everyone's just like saluting around them. Holy shit. Tone deaf, you know. It seems to be the theme of this podcast episode. All right, I expected this one to go. All right, second quarter.

Roman Pfeiffer playing safety and laying lumber literally on the first play. Yep. And Kurt Warner taking an absolute shot. Well, they were playing a big zone. It's like he just got a really deep drop. Yeah, it was almost like a tap or two or a thing where he dropped in that. Yeah, he looked at a place back there. Next to the likes of Laura Malloy.

He was still towering. We're an athlete though, right? Yeah. Also Grant Winston looked pretty good. He did. That dude was a monster. Yeah, I had forgotten about him, but he was a good player. He like, they did like a zone blitz where he like dropped into coverage and covered Kevin Falk.

Yeah, yeah, covered him pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I thought there was a, there was Richard Seymour was out there running down Marshall Falk. Yeah. On one of those past plays where it looked like he was actually supposed to be in coverage too. Marshall Falk came out of the backfield and the guy that peeled off to cover him was Richard Seymour, which doesn't seem particularly...

I mean, he still got beat for like 10 yards, but he's definitely... Yeah, but he still ran his ass down for 10 yards. They look good doing it. All I will say, if we're going to give him some shit, we got to give him some props for his sack. He literally takes the right guard and throws him aside like the guy's just a child and then just runs straight after him. He's like a cartoon monster or something.

He's just bigger than everybody else. He just looks like he's playing with like younger kids. It's like rock. That same sort of like, he's just too big to be one. Let's go back to the second quarter. So, you want to do your best for this quarter? I think we'll leave that until we get to it. Because I think it's going to be Greg's.

So, the Rams miss a 52-yarder and the Pats get the ball at their own 41, which is by far the best starting field position because the two drives before that, they started their three and at their own nine. So, this is like their first chance to actually get somewhere and they don't. They don't do dick. Nothing. Well, Brady took a shot to Patton that probably should have been picked off. Yeah.

But that was on third down, but there was a defensive holding call on it. So, they got another chance and then did dick with that as well. They punted. I don't know if you noticed, but this was the combined tackle on the punt. It was actually a great tackle too. Pin the Rams deep, but to start, the Rams starting deep was tackled by Mike Vrable and also our friend Matt Chatham. On that next question?

This, I only, I would only notice as we talked to him, but when you talk about how Brian Cox was like, I'm playing on one foot. He's like, yeah, I can't cover. And then like literally it was like Cox on coverage. Yeah, some weird stuff where he's like, he goes out into like the white, the cornerback spot. Yeah, he was out covering somebody out, like out past the numbers. And then it was like a folk run and he almost like chased him down from behind.

Yeah, no, he was in there for more plays than I remember because I was keeping an eye out for him too. And he was in there for a lot of like short running plays and he made some tack. But it's like those things like you don't, you wouldn't, that play would not have registered at all for me without that sort of knowledge. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's, that's kind of why I wanted to do it because you kind of,

you're able to watch these games in a different light. Cause I thought that I would be cooler headed watching these games. And I think in some spots I am, and I'm recognizing things like that. But I don't know about you boys, but I'm still like tensing up during something. It's almost like a physical. I'm going to be, I'll be honest with you Andy, I'm not. Really? Well, you know what happens, dude.

I know, but it's still like, I can't help myself doing it. Like every time the, the random at the ball and, and they got the ball into Fox hands, like my whole body was kind of tensing up, even though I know how this goes. And I've seen this play before. Is that the news, Steve? I'm with Andy here. Really? I've been getting worked up on these games for sure.

I can't help myself. And then even some of the other games we've done early this season, like I don't remember them at all. Yeah. So it's like watching a brand new game for me. It's great. Yeah. And I thought, I thought that too.

And I thought it would kind of like tone down as I start remembering these games more and more, but just it hasn't. I don't know why. Well, these ones are just so reaction. Yeah. And there are parts of them I don't remember too. Well, let's talk about the part we do remember. Greg, Brad, do you want to walk us through this?

Yeah. You mean the greatest play in Patriots history? Possibly the greatest, like 10 seconds of my life up to that point. Yeah. There's no possible about that. Yeah. So obviously we're talking about the tie law, pick six. They're down three nothing right at the time.

Yeah. Three nothing. Yeah. Haven't done anything. Yeah. Halfway through the second quarter. And actually looking back, it was very similar to the high tower sack strip against Atlanta.

I thought that too. Where you just saw a variable coming off the side and you're like, dude, no one touched him. You just saw it coming? Yeah. Yeah. And then one or just kind of floats one up there and tie catches it in stride. And does the infamous like hand up as he's crossing and then like the dusting of the ground

celebration. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely iconic. I used to do that after every good thing I did. I could see you making the bed. He's like, he's dusting the floor. Dude, I once did that after intercourse with Kelly and she was like, what the fuck are you doing?

I was doing it to be funny, but she didn't get the joke. Because remember the shrine I used to have? Well, there was like a tie law corner of the shrine. Of course there was. And we just like, we did it in there because it was funny to do. And then after I started like doing the dance and doing the floor and she's like, what are you doing? I was like, you wouldn't understand. Does she understand that?

Yeah. No, she gets it now. A better question. Does she listen to these podcasts? Probably not. Lucky for you. So yeah, that was a big part of my childhood, that play. You know, being a tie law fan and for him to get a pick six in the Super Bowl.

Yeah. You know, on the biggest stage, it was just it was and then he was so swaggy about it too. Cause that's what you loved about the tie law is that confidence and it was pretty special. Huge momentum play. Yeah. But I do have a note here. That's a personal foul these days. That's true.

You got him in the head pretty good. That right tackle just totally blew it to forget who it was. And then he goes out for us. I think it was just, well, that was the right tackle who was their backup cause they're original when it got hurt. No, this was his last play. They said, this is the last right. Yeah.

Oh, no, you're right. You're right. You're right. But like if you watch the replays, you can see him turn inside and then he turns and looks at him going, crushing the quarterback and he like claps his hands. They're like, ah, shit. Fuck that one up. Yeah.

And there before there would be, I'm looking something up real quick. And then Pat summer all was like interception return for a touchdown tie law. Jesus. Pat, I know it goes six celebration. Pat summer on the other hand, fucking blows. It's like, fuck it. Wake up, dude. Yeah.

The game going on. If you don't get hype for a pick six in a Super Bowl, like what are you doing? Yeah. That was the second ever pick six in a Super Bowl. Is the first one something we'd know? Maybe it happened the year before. Oh, that's the Ravens Giant Super Bowl. I don't really remember that too much.

It is. Yeah, me either. Oh, there's the one year after too, right? Because that dude from the Tampa Bay. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he won MVP. They were three the year after. Jesus.

So it was Kerry Collins got picked six by Dwayne Starks. I vaguely remember. And then the year after Rich Ganon through three interceptions that were two by Dwight Smith and one by Derek Brooks. Wait, who won the MVP on the box that year? It's gotta be Dwight, right? You would think it would be Dwight Smith. That would be Dexter McCluster, isn't that right?

Um, does it tell? Who would I love? Seems unprovable reference. I'm not seeing it. Super Bowl MVP, 0-3. Dude. Jackson. Baltimore won the Super Bowl the year before against the Giants.

I have no recollection of that. It was like the most boring game of all time. That was the one where they had that historic defense. Yeah. Trent Dillford. That's the one, the one that everybody took as the worst quarterback ever. Is Ed Reed around? He's not, right?

Nope. Not yet. Not yet. Ray Lewis was though, yeah. I think that was his rookie year, maybe. Is this like Brian Bolleware era? Is that a name? No.

You think of Kyle Boller? No, Bolleware. The linebacker. Oh, yeah. I think that makes sense. Okay. Rod Woodson, right? That's what Rod Woodson era.

Oh, yeah. Well, at least we finally got an exciting Super Bowl for that snooze first year. Steve was right though. Dexter Jackson. The safety was the MVP. The Super Bowl 37. Fuck, it's Dexter Jackson. And why was he the MVP?

I think maybe you screwed up your first. Three picked sixes in a Super Bowl. No, it's Trent. And a guy who had two of them didn't win the MVP. This is correct. I mean, Dexter Jackson also had two air exceptions. Steve, can you stat check Andy's stat check? What we, what, what do you think the odds were for Dexter Jackson's Super Bowl MVP?

Oh, uh, Rages. How Rages? I can't think of another like safety. Maybe a defensive player won the Ravens one as well, but like not since then. He'll just fall into the category other. Yeah, Ray Lewis, no one. They don't even put the, they don't even put up numbers on those dudes. Yeah, no, I know.

Yeah, you got to call again to get odds. All right. So Pat's up seven, three now. Yep. Things are looking good. This is how we wanted it to go. Yeah. And this, the defense in this quarter was on just shits down.

I don't know. I thought they were getting chunk plays, but we were making some solid ones. But not easily. Because after that, um, Bruce, he basically just Stonewalled Falk on the second and one, like one on one. He's absolutely just perfect for getting it. And then the next play Lord of Maloy almost got his own pick. Yeah, but they also on that drive had that fumbled snap that they turned into like 15 yards.

Oh yeah. Current water was cool. Common collected. And I had another one here snap picks it up. Everybody like the entire offense and defensive line just stopped. And then like he had all the time in the world was completely in the past. I wonder if anyone's ever tried to fake that. It's fumble Rusky ballsy.

What do you think? That's a fumble snap. Yeah, fake a fumble snap. Well, you just have, you just have the guy, the center, keep it and go. That's what the fumble Rusky is. Isn't it? Yeah, but it's not like a fumble. Well, you're not putting the ball there, right?

Well, I think they changed. Didn't they change the rules where you actually have to like exchange possession? I think so. People couldn't do that. Yeah, that sounds really makes sense. So then they punted away. Troy Brown calls fair catch with like nobody within 15 yards of them. He would make up for it.

Then I got it like a football or not football. I wasn't quite sure. Oh, okay. I know what you did. If this has to be the one I'm thinking of too. They said, I think it was John Madden. He said throw a guy a bone and then you throw him two bones in a row. It's actually not the one I was thinking of.

No, not the one I was thinking of either. You, I mean, Andy, you have to have the one I have written down. I'll say it. All right. You say it. When he said, what do you think Tyler thinks when he sees 270 pounds of meat coming at him? I had something else actually. What?

I heard that. And I was like, there's no way anybody missed that. I don't even know his name because they were talking about the Rens fullback. And Matt goes, his nickname is me. Yeah. Never heard anybody's more excited about a nickname. Yeah. That was the same play.

Yeah. I mean, that's a great nickname. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Matt was talking about, I don't even remember the situation. I don't think I remember. Uh, something to do with, um, having his fingers moving under there or something like that.

I think I think I had to do with, um, with, uh, Kurt Warner getting his thumb hurt. It's like, oh, you know, when you, when you have your fingers under there, things can happen. Oh, fuck. Shemp. But to answer his question, I bet Tyler was thinking, well, that's not going to fit. I'd run that down too. I don't know. I think, I think Tyler has enough swag to think that it would fit.

I can make this work. Yeah, I can handle it. 270 pounds of meat, no problem. They did make the tackle too. Yeah. Meat. That's an old school football name. Such a nickname for a fucking fullback.

If your fullback's not named meat. So then we go, what? Stalled out with the Brady on that stunt sack, which you had no chance on. Put it back there in like their two minute drill. If I remember right. Yeah, they see, yeah, because this is getting towards the end of the second quarter. So they start moving the ball a bit and then Warner hits Ricky Pearl. Who he is obviously the guy who made the comments about like now dynasty is born.

That's him. People were talking about it. What? Them being a dynasty. I know, but he's the one before the game starts. Turn to the camera goes tonight. A dynasty is born. Oh, yeah.

And then like every time you catch a ball, he would fucking celebrate a whole lot for the fucking four string wide receiver. I thought, oh, it sounds like Andy doesn't like Ricky Pearl. Well, I'd always thought that I hated Ricky Pearl because he killed us in this game and rewatching it. I'm like, no, I must have been thinking about Hakeem because he killed us in this game. No, you were thinking of Ricky Pearl because he scored the game time touch. That's how I think that's it.

And maybe it was a Carolina game too. I remember him pretty, pretty good in there. But so either way, he definitely hates the Patriots. Yeah. No, I think we'll get to that later because I think he does score against the Patriots in the Super Bowl when he's with the Panthers as well. But in this quarter, he fumbled a fucking ball like a joke. Yeah, he did.

Fumbled it because of our boy Antoine. Antoine Harris, baby. Yep. Shout out. The most underrated MVP candidate on this team. He's made a couple of big plays lately. He's a lot better than Terence Shaw. That's for checks.

Back weeks. Well, we got injured, right? Didn't Shaw get injured on that Roman Pfeiffer hit in the first quarter? Oh, in front of Pfeiffer. Pfeiffer was out there. Somebody. I don't remember who it was. Pretty sure it was Shaw.

Yeah. Yeah. But they're only playing all these guys because they're going with that five DB. Yeah. Oh my God. There's a stat here somewhere. Where is it? Here we go.

So the Patriots defense tonight, this is halfway through the third quarter. How many times they've played different amounts of defensive backs? On the field. So your normal four defensive backs, you know, two cornerbacks, two safeties. They did that 12 times. Five defensive backs, which is a nickel. 10 times. Six defensive backs, which is a dime, which you don't see very often.

They've done that 15 times. And they've even rolled out seven defensive backs three times. Half of the third quarter. Like that was obviously their game plan was just put nothing but pass defenders out there. And then as soon as somebody catches the ball, fucking light them up and it works. And they were so tight in the line everywhere. They're jamming them every single time. Oh yeah.

But there was one play where I saw it was a screenplay to the tight end or something. But Marshall Falk was lined up in the backfield and he ran kind of like an out. And William McGinnis, you could tell his assignment was Marshall Falk. So he saw Marshall Falk going out and he just ran straight at him. To the point where the left tackle went out to go block him and realized like he couldn't because William McGinnis was running away from him. And William McGinnis probably like 10 yards in the backfield, just lit the fuck into Marshall Falk and knocked him like 10 yards back and then came back to him.

That's all you got to do? Yeah. Yeah. And that was the game plan. But and it worked all the way through. But it was like, you could just see immediately. He just made a beeline straight to Marshall Falk, knocked his ass over and then came back to get to make the play.

That was fantastic. Yeah. And I think like, and it's part of the reason it's a 14 point spread, but that turf makes a huge difference. It does. Like obviously it's, I mean, it's part of their team nickname for God's sake. So that this team is built. Yeah.

This team is built to play on this surface and the Patriots are coming off like, yeah, coming off two wins to get there that are like slug fests. So you can kind of understand where that spread game from. Oh, yeah. Especially since when they played in the Patriots, in in Foxboro on the non-turf and they still put it. Yep.

Looks sloppy doing it, but they still hold away at the end. No problem. I didn't notice like everybody was bleeding though. Probably from falling on that turf. Oh, yeah. You ever play on that stuff? No. Quite indoor on it.

Indoor soccer for a while back in the day. Yeah. Fucking terrible. It was just like a thin layer of like carpet with like covering concrete. It's green carpet on concrete. Yeah. It's awful. Yeah.

The stuff they got now is great though. Little rubber pellets. Yeah, better. Big thing. You find rubber pellets in places you didn't even know you had like three days later. But from a visual standpoint, the turf is pretty cool. That neon green turf. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Like the Pat's field doesn't look great on TV now at July. But the colors were popping in this game. Yeah. That's true. The blue dress is on the green grass. Put on quote grass. Dude, imagine if the Rams had their old school.

Oh, yeah. Yellow and blue. Oh, yellow and blue. Yeah. That would have been cool. Yep. It looks like we're even the Patriots red. Oh, yeah.

First. Now we're two. Yeah. Anybody else got an erection? Yeah. That sound you heard was me unzipping my pants. So I wear sweatpants to these. Who wears pants?

It's true. I don't know where to go. I do. Also, I went down, you know, I went down the LA Kiss rabbit hole. I found the most disgusting pair of sweatpants ever. For sale? Yeah. Yeah.

It's just like a full-sized jeans Simmons face. Oh, yeah. I just did it. Well, I got the kiss where like their faces are right above your dick. Oh, yeah. They have some of the tackiest shit ever. I heard like a animal moaning. Oh, that's my stomach.

Oh, really? That's not true. Yes, it was. Geez. Geez. Stevie getting hungry. Right. I got hungry to do some for dinner.

It's still the poo brewing. Oh, good. All right, let's move this along a bit. Yeah, we'll cut this part right now. So that first, once they get that fall ball back from Ricky Pearl, drop it on the ground like a loser. That first like Troy bubble screen. Yeah.

Again, this is where I was like John Madden's sweet. He's talking about his first step quickness and like, what makes him a good screen receiver, makes him a great punt returner. And yeah, again, I was like, man, John Madden's nose is stuff. Yeah. But that was a huge fight there. It was massive.

But I thought an even bigger plan. This is going to be my, I think it's third and one. And the page is like just outside field goal range. And Kevin Falk takes like the toss sweep out of the shotgun around left tackle. And the, the left tackle is the guy that Matt light got injured. And this guy had just come in for this drive. And I don't even recognize his name. Yeah, me either Williams.

Something Williams. Yeah, something Williams. And he pulled out and he blocked two guys on that one play and sprung Falk, not only for the first down, but was he was able to get out of bounds. Yeah, get down like a five. Yeah. Yeah.

And then like two plays later, the braided patent touchdown in the corner there. Shades of the week before blood soda patent in that back corner. Falling away. My best was like that in like the live broadcast that's on YouTube, they had like a different camera angle for that. Oh, they did. Yeah.

Like from the corner of the end zone. Yeah. And I was like set up perfectly to watch like Brady's throw to him. Oh, it was the perfect angle for that play goal. It's like, I don't know. You see it from the replays. You think it puts a lot more air under it, but it wasn't. It was kind of a bullet.

Oh, yeah. He hooked it in there. That was a tough catch though. Yeah. I think it's a better catch than it was a throw. I agree. Yeah, I agree with that. And it was an awesome route.

Like, oh, yeah. Out and up from the 5-0 line. Game those wiggle hips, you know. See you later. Brady pumped it too. Yeah. Yeah. That was that out and up.

Faked it out. Get the guy to bite and then get behind him. Perfect. Yep. David Patton's only catch of the game. Oh, sure it was. Yeah. Because Patton had another play, but it wasn't.

That's true. He had the reverse. Yeah. Tom Brady out front. We'd close for blocking. They did that like dance his way through the frame. Not great, Tom. Not great.

They had a stat. Or this is the Rams first time trailing by more than eight points all year. Yeah, that was great. At the end of this, at the end of the half. One was that that was Tom Brady's first touchdown pass in the last 83 attempts. A bum. Not great, but, you know, timely. Yeah, this is the first time that the Rams have trailed by more than eight points this season.

At all. And then right on the ensuing kickoff for this, it was the biggest Super Bowl fact, the biggest halftime deficit overcome is seven points. Oh, yeah, they love it. Oh, it's coming out 14 to three, which, you know, is great and kind of sets the table for, you know, year 20 of this podcast, but. Well, also that, I mean, that fumble is huge. Like, I don't think people really talk about that play much.

The Antoine Harris fumble, but, I mean. Massive. 14-3, if the Rams go down a score there, I mean, you're talking about being down at half. This is a whole different. Yep. I haven't noticed this yet. We're going to knock down still 7-3, and it's anybody's game. Yeah.

That's who scores down. 14-3, you go into that locker room thinking, we can win this fucking thing, you know. Yeah, especially since the pages get in the ball back, like to have to be able to do that, like score and then get the ball back and try again. Like that's, yeah, it's a whole moment. And even like, I don't know, the offense hadn't done anything. And even this whole game, the offense doesn't really do much until the last drive. It's true.

Yeah. Every single point. Every single point, yeah, whole season, never mind this game. I can't think of a game this season where I've been like, wow, this offense is a wagon. The only one was the, didn't watch it. Yeah. Watch any of the games, they haven't been a wagon at all. Based on what you guys have been telling me.

Now, Brady looked good in the game again, and he rallied them down from a lot, and they basically said, fucking go sling it. And he threw it like 50 something times. So sling it, Tommy. Yeah, exactly. Just one of those like typical games. But speaking of underrated plays in this game, I thought the ensuing kickoff was huge.

Yeah. I bet it's not 30 seconds left in the half still. And, you know, it's the Rams and we've seen them do this to the Patriots last time they played. But they right before the half just went down and completed plays of like at least 20 yards, a bunch of them. And I think they either kicked a field goal or scored a touchdown like right to right before the half. Typical what you see the Patriots do these days.

Great. And they actually sent Marshall Falk back to return the kick, too, instead of Yo Murphy. And Vinitari kicks it away from Falk, like right on the sideline so that when Falk catches it, his momentum takes him out of bounds at the six. Which he could have just let it bounce and it probably going out of bounds. Exactly. It was a super ballsy kick to do in the fucking Super Bowl. Because if he if he lets that bounce out of bounds, the Rams get them all to 40 and it's

going to be complete different things. It's not 30 seconds left instead of being at your own six and they just take a knee and go in a half. So two plays, change this whole shape of this, the Super Bowl. Yeah. I don't think Marshall Falk was comfortable doing it. No, I don't think he returns kicks very often. You know what?

Someone needs to tell Mike Martz, do your job. And Yo Murphy was good. He was a good turn guy. He had that 40 yard return to open the game and I thought he actually provided him a pretty good spark. And that's the whole theory behind it all, right? It's like, don't change things just because this is an important game. Just do your job.

And Mike Martz is going, oh God, we need to do something here. We're down 14-3. We need a spark. Yeah. No, don't do that. Just do your job. You want to hear a quote from John Madden? Yeah.

This Patriots defense has done their job. Yeah. Why did you write that down? Because it would be a fucking quote later on from Bill Balanchek. Okay. All right. I thought you were just writing down everything you heard. For the next like 20 fucking years.

It's his. How many pages you got over there, Andy? I know you have four pages and then I have all the screenshots. So it turns out I know you send us your show notes. I never read them. I'd never read them either. I don't even know. I think my own notes.

I have two and a half pages. I have a half a page on Kurt Warner and then nothing else. You didn't watch the game and somehow you're contributing. God damn it. Rain man. Yeah, exactly. It's a good job. You're good at this.

It's the only thing I am good at. We had our own little spark on the second half kickoff. Patrick Pass. Hell yeah. We're turning that kickoff to the 30. Yeah. Well, he was like dead to rights in the 15. Yeah.

He just squirted out. Yeah. That's something I've learned this year. Like this season, he was a better kicker turner than I ever imagined. Yeah. And he's pulled back too, right? Technically. Oh, was he?

No, he was a halfback. I think he was a running back. Yeah. But he was, he was big. He was built like a brick shit house. Is that what a halfback is? Somewhere between a running back and a fullback? I think halfback was just originally.

A running back. Yeah, it was that position, like they back in the. Which never made sense. Why is that? Well, I just, I just invented a fucking perfect description, didn't I? Love it. Sure. He's somewhere between a fullback and a running back, right?

Yeah. Patrick Pass, halfback. Why don't you call him a half a halfback? He's a quarterback. He's a quarterback. Oh, I see what you did there, Steve. Yo, your mom's so dumb, she thought a quarterback was a refund. Cool.

God damn. That was my go to joke when I was a kid. Yeah, shocking. It doesn't really work when I say it's my brothers, but you know, you get the point. Luckily, we know mom doesn't listen to this, even though we've been shouting around every fucking episode. Then they come out with a ton of Antoine.

He was, this is some of his best friends of the game here. Yeah. And then they actually, I thought they were going for the dagger because Brady tried to hit Pat in deep. And Pat, he had like two steps on the guy and Brady just missed him. Yeah. Matt had called it too. Called that play.

Yes. It's like Tony Romo. Yeah. He did. Like, this is the time where you take a shot and that's exactly what happened. And I don't think if Brady hit Pat in there, it's where the touchdown this game's over. I feel like it killed the momentum.

I feel like they could have just kept branding it with David Patton. What was that? Mom's trying to video me. She knows. You know, I'm a damn podcast. What? Yeah.

What are you doing? She won't come on and tell me. Answer it. Answer it. I can video her if you want. You decline, mom. I just let her go to voicemail. Mom, mom, mom, mom.

Oh, she can't figure out the phone. Can't figure out technology. That's a shocker. I can't hear you very well. Hi, mom. Hi, mom. Oh my goodness. You're in the middle of it.

Yeah. We just talked about you, mom. So are you, mom. You're in the middle of it, too, now. You're just talking about how you never listen to us because you don't care. You keep saying you will, mom. You keep saying you will.

She'll figure out podcasts in the next 20 years. It'll be pretty riveting radio. Thanks, mom. I love you, mom. Bye, mom. Bye, mom. That's great. Finally got her on the podcast.

Four months. How often do you call your mother, Steve? I'll call him all the time. Once every 10 days, maybe. Oh, she calls me every three days and complains about you. She was just calling me to tell me how much of a good, good boy I am.

That's correct. Oh, that's funny. All right. Where were we? Antoine Smith just pound in the rock. But I feel like they kill the momentum by taking that shot there. I don't know.

I kind of like that. Yeah, I liked his rationale. What's his name? John Mann. John Mann. You know, you're already up. They're expecting you to ground and pound. You're in good field position.

Browning and pounding was working. Yeah, they did a shot. They do like a ball play to JR Edmond that loses three yards. Now it's third and 13 and like, they're not even in field goal range and they end up punting it away. Yeah, but if he hits that, that was open.

That was the right play call. Didn't exit. Brady just missed it. Yeah. Brady Sneaky has been bad at the deep ball this season. He got way better at that then. And yeah, even like only a couple of seasons later. Yeah, well, you guys crucified me

on the Brady emergency episode by saying there's never a great deep ball thrower. That's true. He comes a great deep ball thrower. I mean, he's always has never been the strength. I thought he's like, he becomes decent and pretty good. But that was never his game. You fucking listen here, Steve.

How dare you? I'm not playing zone coverage. We have another chat. I'm signing right after this. Yes. Not one of his better things. No, it's called for fair catch interference and pleads voraciously with the referee.

He didn't. It was very, very close though. It was real close to that not being a didn't. But yeah, he got away with it. So the Rams started their own 15 instead of further down the field than that. And this is where Warner just starts taking shots. Like they were still driving the ball.

But I think they made it to about midfield and then he took three like real shots in a row. Yeah, Big Rich got him real good on one. Yeah, that was the one. Yeah, that was the one where he, he just tossed the guard aside like he wasn't there. Then like the next play, Pfeiffer does that delayed safety blitz and just absolutely blows them up again.

Yeah, he's a tough son of a bitch, Warner. Oh yeah, he was, he was just standing there taking it the whole time. He was bleeding from the chin all sorts of shit. I like Warner. Yeah, I like him too. Yeah, I want him to be the new Monday. Yeah, Monday night guy.

He does the radio for a Monday night. Yeah, he's pretty good. I bet he'd be good, yeah. Yeah, he's certainly better than. Just have a good grasp of how the game works, you know. To the door, Brett Favre. Maybe. Then he's a good old boy.

You can't tell me Brett Favre isn't charismatic. That's probably true. Everybody loves Brett Favre. Yeah, he's going to ad lib the whole thing. He's going to get a bunch of shit wrong too, but he also got a bunch of shit right. He punts like that. Yeah, a few times a game is going to use gunslayer.

He just shows up in his. He's calling Patrick Mahomes game. Yeah. Oh, God. He's not. He doesn't wear a suit. He just comes in his blue jeans. The blue jean tuxedo.

Canadian tuxedo, Andy. Yeah, whatever. Denim tuxedo. Oh, what the fuck you want to see? We don't tuxedo shame here. That's true. They're beating up on the wide receivers too. There's that one play.

Like it was weird. Like I guess it was part of their thing, but like the wide receivers hit the ground before they got tackled. Yeah. Madden even called that out. He's like, yeah, they do the thing where they get as far as they can,

then they just fall over. And then I don't care. Malloy just blows him up instead of like capping him down. I wrote that down. It wasn't like, and I'm pretty sure that's illegal now too. Yeah. And then it probably was illegal then, but it was a super ball.

Malloy doesn't like the ass-macked. He's like, I'm sorry. And I was like, Chris just whips his ass in the dirt. He hacks them right back. Yeah. Yeah, that was great. Well, that's the whole thing. Like I think they're getting in their heads

by just being like overtly physical with the receivers. Yeah. And I think it was getting in Warner's head too, because all the timings thrown off, and he was running for his life at this point. I mean, he had time a bunch too, but he couldn't find people open. So it wasn't like, I think that time was really thrown off.

Yeah. And then the rush would eventually get to him, and then he was hanging in there as long as he could. So hopefully somebody would get open, and he would just start taking shots. And you got to think like those corners that they're just flooding the field with all play pretty well. It's a tough ass.

That's probably why Hakeem did so well, is you're asking Wheatley and Sean, our boy, to kind of try and cover them. Well, that's there. That's always been the patient's defensive game point, is take away your best options and have you beat them with your third guy, right? But I mean, the third guy is awesome on this team too.

It's true, yeah. I mean, you could even make a case for Ricky Pearl, as much as I hated good wide receiver. Trunk candidate had like eight touchdowns. Right. Yeah. I read your notes, Andy. Just now.

I read them. I was just giving you a hard time. I read them sometimes, but not all. If you read them, you'd know you had six touchdowns, but that's okay. Six? That's still a lot. For a backup running back, yeah. Yeah.

And something about him being like a Kiefer-Severland character. Yeah. His name sounds like a bad Fox TV drama. Yeah. He's not Kiefer-Severland. That may be why. The Trunk Candidate. The Trunk Candidate.

Tuesday nights at nine. Only on Fox. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, this team is just a wagon, right? You have to have a perfect game. Not only, I mean, you see the game plan, and I bet that's not that crazy to think of, right?

Get physical with them. A lot of teams probably thought that. But this is like- I think the seven- Perfect execution, right? Slightly different. Yeah. You get turnovers, opportunistic turnovers.

You scored points on defense. You're hitting them at every opportunity. I mean, they're still gaining at least a amount of yards, but- They were. You've held them to three points through three quarters. It's about as good as you can ask for. You can run the ball, turn the clock a bit.

I mean, like Chatham said, if they hadn't played them early in their year, I bet they'd lose this game. Yeah. I said that too. In that game, I said it was the most important loss of the Patriots dynasty. And I was laughed out of the room by Greg and Mike.

Yeah, that's fair. Well, I just disagree with anything you say. Really? I hadn't noticed. That hasn't been going off in fucking 30 years. I'm just testing you to see how strong your convictions are, Andy, that's all. Like any good brother would do.

Speaking of testing convictions, the next brand's drive, Kurt Warner, is picked off again by OTIS. I'd forgotten about this interception, to be honest. I always forget about this one. Every time I watch it. This is stud. This is like the sleepy turnover.

Like everyone remembers the Ricky Pearl fumble and the obviously the tie law pick six. But without this, Patriots are driving to tie the game and not to win it. Right. Yeah. Because this turns into, well, this was the direct snap to Falk that completely fooled Summerall.

But even before that, the play before that, or two plays before that, they tried a running back pass with Kevin Falk, which I had completely forgotten about. Didn't run this way at all. And Falk, the pressure was so great that he just had to like pull it down and eat it. Smart.

And get the pass off. Yeah, at least covered anyways. Did you see that angle? No. Oh yeah. The guy was like stride for stride with the receiver. And then whoever that defensive end was his name. He was, he blew his block up and was right on Falk too.

Yeah. What was his name, Greg? Space and tail. Yeah. You're the one that brought him up earlier as well. Winstrum. Yes. Yeah.

Yes. Winstrum. Yeah. He blew that play up as well. But yeah, at least a military field goal. So now we're at 17-3 going into the fourth quarter. So yeah, without that, the Rams score two touchdowns would be down. Which is exactly what happened.

But I mean, I don't know if there are any more things to talk about in the third quarter to do best and worse, unless you guys have some. I blew all my best with that. So I'm all getting foiled by that direct snap. I know that was my favorite. That was best. Yeah. I'm the worst.

Yeah. They're running back. Yeah, let's jump into the fourth quarter. Yeah. Yeah, because this is where it gets good. Well, the Rams start kind of figuring it out. Well, yeah. All right.

So good. I mean, it ends good. But it starts. Does it? Well, it starts really good because the Rams drive all the way down and they're going for the fourth and goal from the three. Even before that, dude, he almost threw two picks back-to-back plays. Boyer almost had a pick.

And he didn't see where at all. Ty almost had a pick. Yeah. On the third down, he tried to fade and Ty lost. They only got his hands on it. And then- Surprised they went for it. I kind of had at this point.

Yeah, I guess. It was, like, what, 10 minutes left yourself? It was kind of early. Yeah, I was right at the beginning of that at the quarter. But you're down two touchdowns? Yeah, 10 and a half. In this day and age, you probably keep a field goal because there's a lot more scoring.

But I think back then, it might have been a different calculation. That's true. Maybe. But there's also a lot of scoring on both ends. So I think you go- Yeah, but fourth and goal from the three. Warner drops back to pass. Nobody's open.

Mainly because Willie McGinnis has form tackled Marshall Fault coming out of the backfield. Within five yards. Oh, God. Here we go. Five yards. There's five yards behind us. Here we go.

Can't actually tackle, I don't think. Welcome to this- He didn't take it from the ground. Ben's- Dude, he tried. He mauled them. Yeah, he mauled them, but he's within five yards. You can do whatever you want.

John Madden told them earlier in the- You can't hold people, though, Steve. You can make contact. You can't hold them. They didn't call holding. Yes, they did. Yeah, they called holding. I thought it was like PI or something.

No, holding. Yeah. But the result of the play is Warner scrambles, tries to die for the touchdown. If you want to call it scrambles. Yeah, it was like Brady out there. That was slow as Warner. Who's faster, Brady or Warner?

Oh, Jesus. Who's faster, Brady, Warner or Greg Brown? Oh, I'm faster. Well, I don't know. You're not at it out. We keep trying to get a guy at work to do a 40-yard dash to see if you can beat Brady's combine time. You should make them do the triple jump.

I can do the shuttle. These are- The page doesn't care about the three cone anyway. If you want to make a non-athletic person look really non-athletic, make them do the triple jump. Yeah, yeah. It's like the least intuitive athletic thing ever. So you just look like a fucking idiot.

Maybe we should have combine stats. I'll do it. We'll see if we can figure that out. We'll do it. We're in North Carolina this summer. Yeah, maybe the next time we're all together. But that's bullshit ass flag. Should have been touchdown.

Should have been game over. Yeah, so it's a bucket jump. It's up the fumble at the one-yard lap, the goal line, and runs all the way back for touchdown. It would have been 24-3, and then the game again is over. Yeah, 10 minutes left. 10, huge swing, 14-point swing. Rams get the ball back in the first down.

That's basically the one-yard line. Two players later, Kurt Warner, QB Sneak, Goose-dom. Like we talked about. Yeah. Then I just ran short of the middle, scores a touchdown, and now it's a little bit close. And Pat Summerall was like, whoa, that just happened. Didn't realize it was a touchdown for like five seconds.

Which definitely let John Madden go on about Goosing. And then this is where the Patriots offense, they go three and out pretty much every drive. I feel like that always happens, right? We're like, I don't know. The play calling gets super conservative, and they just try to grind clock, and they just go three rounds and out,

three and out, three and out, three and out. Not just with the Patriots, just in general, I feel like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in football. It's momentum, baby. Yeah, I think that has something to do with it. Yeah, once your B-hole starts clenching. Yeah, you start getting conservative in the play calling, and you start getting conservative

in just like how you're running the plays. Even like execution, right? You're like, you don't want to make the play that blows it. Yeah, I mean, the past D kept playing pretty well though. Playing defensively is pretty instinctual, right? You just like run around. But if you're a tight window here, do I just let it rip or do I check down?

Right, yeah, and so in this game, this is where Brady would be checking down. Yeah, well, until the last drive he would, yeah. Yeah, but then at that point, you're not, you're a tight game. You're not trying to contain that lead. You just see what you can do on this last drive and then whatever happens happens.

But there's still that thing that Greg just said where you don't want to make that fatal mistake either. And that was John Madden's point of taking eight, because you don't want to make that fatal mistake. That's true, they didn't. Nope. Yeah, because that's what I was saying. They had a conversation with Brady,

they're like, we're going out, we're going to fucking sling it. But it's like Otis hadn't made that pick and they hadn't got that three points, right? Yeah, of course, he's going to sling it. But it's even more impressive that he's sling it until I won it. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, back to your point, I like the defense does do a decent job in this, but you can tell they're getting gassed.

Well, did they like blue-kirt up again? Yeah, because they, Pages go three, now they punt, and the Rams I think had a holding call to move them back to their own seven. So they really started their seven-yard line drive down the field, but not in like a typical Rams way, where they're just like, where Warner has a bunch of time,

he's standing back, they're just picking you apart. Like he was running for his life, completing passes, like you're kind of half expecting to be shovel passing it left-handed. But still managed to drive almost within field goal range, so we're getting kind of close. And so Willie McGinnis comes out and puts his top to the drive with a huge sack. Huge sack.

Forcing the Rams to punt. Pages get the ball. Well, Willie's celebration there too, you could tell was exhausted defense player. He's laying on his back pointing at the ceiling. Yeah. Yeah, that was amazing. Yeah, he knew that that was getting them off the field

and getting them. Exactly. Yep. It wasn't much. Pass get the ball at their own 20 with three and a half left. And basically, I thought they were going to run free running plays, but they didn't.

And then they burned a stupid timeout too. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like by this point, no, neither team had any timeouts left. Yeah. Which is baffling to me. They're just using them like whenever the fuck they want. Yeah.

There was some stat where the Rams led the league in delay of game pass for such a, what you would expect to be a well oil machine. You wouldn't expect them to have that many delay game calls. But it did feel like a little disjointed all the way. But the punt was probably Ken Walters' worst punt of the season. Can we say that? Absolutely awful punt.

I think they said it went 30 yards. And then they cut to Brad Sealy and he's like, what the fuck is that? Yeah. They had the refs or the league like both. Because that was the wide-eyed holding call on the Patriots. Well, I mean, would they re-kick it or not, right? Well, I think nowadays you can just take that five yards.

And tack it on. Yeah. I don't think you can do that. Well, the Rams start at their own 45, which is ridiculous. Ridiculous. And then I'm going to say now, what? Minute 51 left. Yeah.

Yeah. Because the Pats managed to run it down to it. Yeah. So they have the ball, they're on 45. A couple of plays later. I'm just going to go out and say it. A legal offensive pass interference on this play. It was a pick play.

Of course you are. Are you guys kidding me? They called it a little pick. Dude, it's only a pick. Matt didn't even call it a pick. It's only a pick. It's a rub. That was a rub.

You tell, you mean to tell me if the Patriots ran that play on offense, you'd be saying the same thing. Yeah. I'd be, I'd be celebrating the touchdown because it's going to get called. It's only a pick if they're like actively getting the way of the player. He did. He ran and grabbed it.

So much. No. It was, it was blame. We could call it all alone. So much so that the. Because it was a bad play by Terrence Shaw. It was, but it was still an illegal pick play. No.

I fucking, I can't believe, I can't even believe you guys are bringing that up. Usually, usually I can tell when you're going to be like, Patriots got shafted on this one. Now, that would never even cross my mind. No. I used to bad things. Matty called out. He called it a little pick.

Yeah. Like, oh, that's a pick play. Well, he didn't say a little rub. It did. Well, he would have called it what it is. Was that a legal penalty? I don't know. He might even say got away with a little pick.

Yeah. I feel, I feel like a tape, Steve. I feel like it was illegal, but it wasn't as, as focused on back in the day. They should never got called. Yeah. So, I mean, it's a touchdown. I counted.

So fuck it. Patriots will battle through that. But yeah, Ricky Pearl, the, he have Dynasty fame scores a touchdown. Shampoos is way into the end zone. Shampoos. That's right. Pearls is way into the end zone. And now we've got ourselves a tight game

with how much time left under a minute? Yeah. No, one, one 37. It was when they took, yeah. It took them a total of like 24 seconds to score that touchdown. And three plays. Three plays, 18, 11, and then 26. So that kind of puts in context what you're thinking of when Madden's like,

maybe they shouldn't be doing this. Like you throw three incompletions and then punt. They don't even need to get a touchdown. Yeah. Exactly. Well, like flip side to that is like, if you go to overtime, like what's going to happen there too, right? Right.

Exactly. Yeah. That makes sense. Cause it's like, you just got to win it now. You put your, you did everything right to get to here. Put yourself in a position to win this game. You can't like back down now, you know? Yeah.

And I had a, I had a football or not football because he talked about that. And he said, do you have to let them all hang out? Well, that is, you all know what that means. That's a real one. Yeah. I let them all hang out. Does that mean that's what we're talking about there? Right.

Yeah. No, he's John Madden said, you just got to flop your cock and let's go. Just let him hang baby. But I've never really, whenever I hear that term, I think like saggy titties in my head. Is that not what it? Well, I mean, yeah, that's the female. Oh. Well, them hang out.

I mean, your balls. Yeah. Yeah. But then what are you doing? You just pull them around your cock and. Well, no, you let everything hang out, but it's mainly focused on the balls. Cause I'll do that. I'll do that.

Swank. That means that they're just going to win. I'll do it. I'll do everything for the win. Did I ever tell you about that time that before Kelly and I were dating when I was at her apartment when she wasn't there? Cause we were friends, obviously. And she had left her laptop open and I pulled my nutsack out of my jeans and it threw the zipper.

And I took a photo with her computer and made her background just a full size picture of my nuts. So she opened her computer in class. Oh, no. It was just staring at my big old bag of nuts. You little squirrel brain there. Oh, man. And then we fell in love and we got married, which is not false. So back to the biggest drive of, yeah.

That's a Brady hanging in the hall, right? Well, before that, we gave Mike March shit about putting Falk back there for, the Patriots do the exact same thing with Troy Brown. We're trying to kick off all the way back to the 17 yard line. Yeah. And he wasted nine seconds just running around. So that coaching, you know. Wow.

All right. You're just going to go out there. If we do not agree. Yeah. I mean, like I said, Patrick Pass surprisingly a good return. It wasn't like they weren't getting nothing out of the return game. Right. Or if you're going to do something like that, have a play in your back pocket.

Like maybe, I don't know. Maybe there was something. Like Troy handles punts, right? And he's got that short ear quickness. That makes more sense than taking Marshall Falk and be like, all right, we need to spark Marshall. Go out there and return this kick. Click what?

For the first time. I mean, is it even done up before? Yeah. Like it was his first ever kick return. Hey, was there a play in an important game where the Pats tried this and they did like a one of those reverse ones? That was vaguely. Maybe we'll get to that somewhere down the road.

But I expected that to be coming. And then it like failed miserably. Which is yeah. Yeah. Like the 17. So I mean, this is similar, but it's. I looked at it. I didn't seem like they had a plan, you know.

Yeah, yeah. Marshall Falk returned one punt in 2000, one in 2004. No, one kick returns. What does it return? That's it. What about for the Colts? Oh, this is his entire career stats. Three returns.

Wow. We're about in college. San Diego State. He's an Aztec. He was. I had his football card. I'm on pro football focus or pro football. They have a college for that.

They do not have an arena football one. Damn. I learned that the other night. Andy, it sounds like you're going to do it. What am I going to do? He had two kick returns in college. Sorry, I made this wasn't his thing. Yeah.

So when John Madden said he'd done it before, he meant once. Yes. John Madden just got stat checked 20 years later. I don't teach him. But I'm with you, Greg. I feel that it was overthinking it, right? Just put Patrick Pass back there. He's done a good job.

That's what he does every day. It was a surprise. Or if you're going to have something like something like unique, you know, like a Frank Wychek. I guess what worked out. Falk started on the sixth. Troy started on the 17th. He's 11 yards better.

That's right. And once too. So what's your favorite play on this last drive? Let me all know the favorite. The favorite play is obviously Troy Brown. What's your second favorite play? The intentional grounding they didn't call. Yeah.

He was out of the pocket. I do. You'd say that. I don't know if he was. And was there a receiver in that general vicinity? There was somebody running a goal route down there, but he wasn't that close. It was 41 seconds.

They're on the 30. Like it's getting like, you don't have a lot of light there. And then he dumps it again to JR for the third time in a row. And this is the one where he like makes a guy miss and like barely gets out of bounds and like fumbles it. That's true. Yeah. After the first down.

Yeah. Yeah. He stays in bounds there. Like we're kind of fucked. Like on the 40 and the clock is ticking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And like you, you'll see that like type of play, maybe like once a season and like just randomly in college or NFL. And every time I see it, I go, that's the JR Redmond play. He caught out of bounds. Yeah. Or more often you'll see the guy doesn't get out of bounds and like tries to get a couple more yards

and gets like three more yards to waste 30 seconds doing it. Yeah. But it is a smart move to do that little like dang, if you think you can get back out of bounds because that player, that defense is playing you right, thinking you're walking out. Right. Oh yeah.

Allow them to get out of bounds. Yeah. It was a smart move. Yeah. Yeah. So I do that twice because Troy Brown had the same thing on that deeper cross. Gets the ball.

Gets as many yards as you can go. And then just steps out of bounds. Yep. But always running towards. I thought a sneaky big play was the one after that though. Because there, I think that puts him at the 36 after Troy Brown's catch. Yeah. So now I think it would have been a 52 or 53 yard field goal,

Matt was saying or something. And so then they still run one more play. Brady finds Wiggins, his redemption, because he dropped a big one earlier. Yes, he did. That almost got picked, he batted it straight up. Scared the shit out of me. So Wiggins for six yards down to the 30,

and then the iconic Brady spiking the ball, catching it with one hand and just holding it there. You can joke. We're great commentating from John Madden there. Yes. Yes. Iconic commentary too. Yep.

Walk me through it. I said like what Brady did just gave me chills or something like that. Oh yeah, I gave him Goosebumps. That gave me Goosebumps. It actually did. It gave me goosebumps when he said that. I think he said something like what that kid right there just did. Yeah.

Because he was, he's a kid. Yeah, it was. Yeah. And then there's only one more play left. And that's an iconic call. I'm just going to say we'll have to put it in the... That's a kill Santos. Dude, I have it up right now.

Oh, I'm through my headphones though. Yeah, no, I'll plug it in here and post. Can we do our best impression? Give it to me. It's good. It's good. Kick is on the way and it is good. It's good.

And then they're all just like laughing maniacally in the background. Dude, his voice. I just put it up on you. Step to go. Snap all down. It is good. It's good. It's good.

Not a bit of telly. Two to 40. A yard field goal. And the game is over. And the Patriots are Super Bowl champions. So Patriots are Super Bowl champions. So Patriots are Super Bowl champions. So electric.

Oh, yeah. I just got goosebumps again. The first part of that brings you back to childhood, like listening to games in the car. We used to always call out the hash mark. Yeah, it was to be left to right. Or, you know, like... This is the best radio commentator I remember.

Oh, yeah. You would paint that picture immediately. Dude. You could just visualize it when you're not watching. I never paid any attention to it. I always did. You? Yeah.

Because I always used to try to picture it in my mind. I never really paid attention to either, Greg. Yeah. I mean, it was cool like filler noise that like now looking back is nostalgic, but I never was like, all right, okay, it's on the near hash. Left to right. Yeah, yeah.

You know, I never did that. But I never realized I did it until he retired and the new guy was so she started doing it and he doesn't do that. And it started driving me nuts. I'm like, what's going on? Like, where's the ball? I don't understand.

What down is it? How, like, what's the down and distance? It's sneaky cool like starting a game on the radio and then like you get to your house and you start watching it on TV. I'm being like, this is what not what I have picture in my head at all. Some games are we would mute the TV

and put the radio in front of it. So much better. Yeah. Also, I'm not again, I saw this on that YouTube video I just watched on the Gil and Gino call. Charles Johnston, not even excited. Oh, yeah. It really cuts to him.

All people just like yapping at the camera for some reason. Yeah. Well, he was listening to Pat Summerall's call. So and it is good. The Patriots are Super Bowl champions. Unbelievable. He did say unbelievable. But in the in the most believable tone,

you could imagine. I think that was a thing, though. Wasn't it like the monotone play by play people? Probably. Yeah. Because I think Joe Buck is trained in similar fashion, you know, where they're supposed to like maintain, like not do what's going on.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. And the color guy. Not Gil Santos, though. I mean, he had it together. Yeah. The best part is like he has it

for like the first 10 seconds of that. And then he's like, fuck this. The people in the background just going nuts and like in the studio with them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was the best part. You can hear everybody in the background.

So good. And Y pack. Sim runs down. Does the snow angel. Yeah. It's just great. You're right, Greg. It brings the right back.

I remember like standing up and punching the ceiling so hard that I like shredded my knuckles on the popcorn ceiling. I think dad did the same thing. Yeah. Because every time I talk, he's still the first thing he talks about is scraping his. Fuck it's set of balls on Adminitary, huh? Yeah.

There we go. In the other thing. 48 yards, that could have been a 50 something. Yeah. With a stat on the screen that says, has never missed a field goal in a dome. Yeah. And he just says, fuck you, buddy.

God damn right. I haven't. And then they bring that set up every single time it kicks in the dome too. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, another stat that I forgot was the New England Patriots early in the fourth quarter.

They showed a stat. There are 11 to no record when leading after three quarters. So the Patriots were 12 and 0 after leading. In their franchise history. I think it was that season. I thought I heard him say that Brady was the youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl at that point. Yeah.

He was the third youngest to play. Talk about how times have changed, huh? Yeah. I don't think that's the start of it. Yeah. He's got that in the oldest, right? He's got both bookends to that record. Yeah, he doesn't anymore.

He's definitely. I think it's a big bend now. To win? The youngest to win a Super Bowl. Oh, really? Yeah. That's a pretty sick bookend to your career, though. Right?

The youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl at the time and then the oldest to win a Super Bowl at the time like that. That kind of speaks to Brady's legacy, right? And it's still going if we're on it. That's 20. Fuck him. Yeah. He was 25 when he.

He had barely raped his first woman at that point. God damn. Yeah. We'll cut that part. Yeah. I just like my mind instinctively goes to rape when I hear the name Ben Rothesperger. Jeez.

All right. So let's do some best and worst. Greg, what are your best and worst of this game? Can I phone a friend? Yes. Andy, what are your best? Let me, you guys go first. I haven't thought of, I haven't.

All right. All right. And we've talked about most things. A couple of my favorite small things. Troy Brown, when David Patton scored his touchdown was so busy celebrating, they showed a picture of Troy Brown going and getting the football and like carrying it back to the sideline for Patton so he could keep it,

which just feels like such a typical Troy Brown. And then also they did the halftime interview with Bill Belichick. Like, so what's the second half adjustment, Gene? Do you think we need to make? Like, uh, stay out of long yardage on offense. And that was it. Ron Pitts.

That was one of those interviews where he's like, I know this is going to suck. I'm going to ask him one question and then send it right back up. Yeah. Yeah. That summer, I'll say he's gotten easier to talk to. Bill Belichick has gotten easier to converse with. And then my worst was the broadcast, the little

enography in the corner, whenever it was fourth down, the fourth, the down and distance marker would show as yellow. So it showed up every, after every third down play, it showed up as yellow, which is exactly where they put the flag on the field marker as well in yellow. So every third down play, I thought there was a. Oh, that's, that's, that's good lead into my, my worst is, is like that feeling when your team, like this is the

Tobaki Jones in reference to that, the, the touchdown, could call back that feeling when your team makes a huge play and you hear the announcer go, oh, there's a flag in the field. And you're just like, fuck. It's really the worst feeling ever. Cause you go from the highest of highs down to the lowest of loads. You know, so true. And you're just like sitting there hoping and praying that

it's not against your team. And you're like yelling at the TV, like just tell us what the fuck it is. You know, you're losing patience immediately. Like it's been two seconds. You're already yelling at the rest. Like, figure it out. I was, let me see this replay. Let me see this replay.

You're like preemptively mad. Dude, that was within five yards. Exactly. All right. Am I best? It's just the image seared in my mind. I think this is Antoine Smith when they show that back screen and he's like high stepping onto the field with his helmet in his hand.

I always, that's like burned in my mind, in my memory. Yeah. It's just, I don't know. It's just a cool, unique reaction. And Belichick hugging Laurie Malloy. And his dog. Pretty cool. Yeah.

There were a lot of images that were like seared in my memory from this game. You know, like obviously him catching the ball with the one hand. Yeah. You know, even kill Santos' call. Like those certain like things that just, you'll probably never forget, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Never. I mean, if I haven't forgot it in 20 years, I can't imagine it ever happened. Yeah. Yeah. Although I've done a fair amount of drugs. So. I mean, you're the one really working against. Oh, you still don't remember it.

All right, Steve. What's your best and worst? My worst outside of listening to Pat Someraw was, you can never tell how many timeouts are left on it either. Yeah. Right. So you never, because like everyone was just throwing timeouts around willy-nilly. And you're like, well, what number timeout was that?

And like nowadays all like the on-screen graphics will tell you how much timeouts I have left. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was telling you down in distance. All season it wasn't like that. None of them just had like timeouts left. Yeah. Yep.

No, I agree. And then the best is just like re-watching the game. Like if you got two hours, still under two hours, it's definitely worth it. Just because there's so many little pieces in there. And it's like, man, if that had gone differently or if that had gone differently, this whole thing would have been different. And it's just awesome to like experience the whole thing again. Yeah.

It's better than highlights because you get like that feeling of the flow of the game. Like even the way the announcers are talking about things where they're like, oh, the Rams, you know, they could get back into this game. And you're like, I remember feeling that anxiety at the time. Especially when we've all watched that last drive, right? So like everyone knows, played by playing the last drive, but to like watch all the other plays, enough to it's definitely worth it. Yeah, it really is.

Yeah. Just to remember the feeling before that last drive makes it just feel that well. I think we've done a solid job on this two-part Super Bowl special episode. Super Bowl special episode. Yeah. Covered it like Tyler covered Isaac Bruce. Oh, girl. All the way to the end zone.

There was one play there when he like broke on Bruce's, he ended up tripping, but it looked like he knew what Bruce was running before he did. And the filming practice thing did cross my mind. I was like, there's no way anybody's that good. It's tie law. Yes. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. And Dre Bly did that later on in the game too.

Yeah. I'm not cross it or that slant. I'm not on that slant play. We knew what was coming. So maybe, maybe the other way around, maybe Marshall Falk is so upset about this because he knows that. Mm. Gillsy conscious.

He actually did film it. Yeah. He just assumed everybody's doing it. It's like those like pastors that like preach about hating gays. And then they're banging, you know, choir boys on the side. Yeah. At the Matt's bathroom with their stance to the word.

He Hoth Doth protest too much. Me says or some shit like that. I definitely butchered that. You guys know it? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think you're closing off. The lady Doth protest something.

Steve, you got it? Nope. You know what I'm talking about? I know you're talking about, but I don't know what it is. Cool. I don't get close enough. I just butchered that. Oh, I'll take it.

Yeah. We'll put it in post edit. Yeah. Is this a royal way you're going to do this for me? You're right. I have no, I said this all the time, like cut that out. I have no control over what's getting cut. Andy does it all.

Yeah. Hey, and since this is the end of the season, shout out Andy Brown. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Organizing all the editing, all the Internet database, the whole fucking nine yards. Social media, Tweetnet, Matt Chatham doing everything.

Yeah. This is impossible without you, Andy. And I thoroughly enjoyed it. Oh, good. I'm glad you guys enjoyed it. Yeah, it's been awesome. And that's the only nice thing I'll say to you this year. Well, luckily the year is done, boys.

I'll take it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I appreciate you boys doing this. I don't know at the beginning we said that all I asked of you was to last a whole lot longer than any of us. This is only the beginning, I think.

Yeah, on to the next year. Yeah. No days off. No days off. Except for maybe two season. Yeah. We should just do some stupid episodes. You just want to do that.

Kiss some of them, Greg. Oh, dude. I got some stuff down the rabbit hole last night. Just kiss, kiss, merchandising in general. Save it. Save it for 2002, baby. All right. All right, gentlemen.

It's been a pleasure. And we'll see you next season on the Patriots Dynasty podcast. All right. See ya. See ya later. All right. Play us out with, It's a beautiful day.

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