Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2001 Week 3: Patriots vs Colts

Episode Date: February 11, 2020

Your favorite quartet of idiots talk about high school football camp, Momma Brown, and even review Tom Brady's first NFL start.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Ho...sted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons, and of course Michael, sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome again to the Patriots Diancy podcast. Back with me are the three Amigos. Mr. Mello. Mike, how you doing? Pretty darn good, I would say. Glad to hear it. It sounds like you're recording from the beach, so I love that. Oh, man. It's the concrete beach of Los Angeles. Oh, baby. Yes. That's great. You're not on fire at the moment, are you?
Starting point is 00:00:51 No, everyone's actually, that noise you're hearing is people trying to leave the city, but I've decided to stay and do this thing. So you're welcome. We appreciate your commitment. Thank you very much. You got it. All right. Also, well, as we have Steve Brown. How's it going, Steve? Good. We'll miss you on future podcast, Mike. Thank you, man. That means a lot. And we also, with us in a very Halloween mood today, have Greg Brown. How's it going, Jay? Going great. Best day of the year. Yeah. Is this your favorite holiday? No, but I love Halloween. What is your favorite holiday? Spooky today, boys.
Starting point is 00:01:43 I believe Greg is actually carving a pumpkin as we speak. With a bowl full of candy sitting right next to me. Have any of you guys had any trick-or-treaters this year? One. No, we had two. And they are the first ones we've ever had in the 12 years of living in our house. No kidding. Yeah. So I don't think they're very excited. I don't think there are kids in Los Angeles. I don't see them. Yeah. I don't think there are either. Yeah. So they're the child actors and already doing drugs anyway instead of candy. Hey, whoa, we're not. We're not doing that. We already did. It's fine. All right. So this week we're talking about week three of the 2001 NFL season,
Starting point is 00:02:34 where the Colts came to visit. I almost said Gillette Stadium, but it's not Gillette Stadium. It's Foxborough Stadium. This Gillette Stadium is still being built in the background. And this is notable because it is Tom Brady's first ever NFL start after Drew Bledsoe's injury. Was it the hit hurt round the world? Is that what we called it last week? The last episode? And as we talk about, we kind of put together some Boston Globe articles from before the game and after the game. And pretty much the entire week's worth of sports section from the week up to this was all about nothing but the Bledsoe injury and how they actually decided that Brady was going to be the starter instead of
Starting point is 00:03:24 any of the more experienced quarterbacks. I don't know what you guys thought of that because they actually picked up, what's his first name? Doug or something like that? Wasn't it John? John Freeze? Something like that. And they actually, the pages went out and picked him up, but still ended up starting Brady anyway for reasons I think that were unbeknownst to at least the Boston sports media at the time, but became relatively evident pretty quickly even in this game. And the Boston sports media is still complaining about Brady. This is true. I don't think that'll ever stop. But now they're complaining that he's going to leave instead of that he's here. So it's a refreshing difference. A bunch of haters,
Starting point is 00:04:22 animals. This is true. Do any of you guys actually get to hear any Boston sports media these days? No. I have to search for it. Yeah, I have to search for it. But what I do find, I mean, the national media is intolerable. So I don't know how it is locally, but I mean, you get the Stephen A Smiths kind of ranting. You get the Max Kellerman's doing their thing. But I feel like it's tired. You know, they've been doing this for what, five, six years now. And the stuff that they're talking about now with selling homes and, you know, we'll find out, I guess, where this all heads. But it seems like a pretty far reach nowadays. I don't know how it is for you guys. Yeah. I mean, for me, I'm still living in it. And it's actually worse here. It feels
Starting point is 00:05:04 like Boston Sports Talk Radio, especially. And Sports Twitter. All of the big names. It feels like they're actively rooting against not even just the page, but doing sports teams in general. Well, that's what we're doing this right to give a fresh perspective of real homerism. That's exactly right. Yeah. If you want to break from all that negativity, this is the place to be put on your Patriots footy pajamas and come spend some time in our bedroom of a Patriots love. I think my girlfriend thinks it's weird how handsome I think he is. There's nothing wrong with that. No, I mean, maybe she should be less judgmental. A dude recognizing the handsomeness of another dude. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:05:54 It's 2019, especially when he's that handsome. I mean, Tom Brady, he's just he ages like a fine wine. That's true. Long hair Brady, though. Bring that back. All I know is I've insider info here. I know a gentleman who has dated several women who have been with intimately Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. So I can't think of a luckier guy than that. Who is he? I can't reveal this information. Come on. Would you bang him? Who, my friend? Yes. That's funny. I'm on the topic. It was like an Eskimo Bros sort of thing, right? Look, I can't talk about this gentleman. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:48 That's because it's him, boys. It's him. It is not. It is not. Like I said, I would feel honored. Well, I quickly got off track, too. That took like 30 seconds. No, for the course. Andrew, I thought that it could be broken down into two things, what you were asking about this game and, you know, the blutzo situation and also Brady. I mean, the quicker part of it, I do think it's interesting that Brady was chosen considering that Damon Hubert was technically ahead of him at the beginning of the season. And I didn't know that he was a career five and one quarterback at that time. So I mean, Belichick was pretty bold to throw in a guy who threw in what,
Starting point is 00:07:35 like two or three professional passes before that. So I thought that was pretty interesting. Yeah. I think Brady's stats before this, he had thrown three passes and completed one of them for six yards in a blowout the year before on Thanksgiving against the Lions. Yeah. Well, I mean, that doesn't count the passes he threw when Blutzo got hurt in the Jets game. He looked pretty good in that game. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's the one thing that stuck out to me. And this was, we'll just start talking about Brady, I guess, just how Brady, like he looked. I mean, he wasn't as accurate and he wasn't, like the results weren't quite there, but he just looked like Tom Brady. He walked in there
Starting point is 00:08:18 just looking like he owned the place. Like he'd been the starter for 20 years already, had complete control of the huddle. And then his first play from scrimmage, he ran into a sack. And his first pass attempt, he chucked it 20 yards over the head of one of some wide open receiver, but it was like vintage Brady from the beginning. Yeah. It was also interesting kind of looking back at those articles and seeing how he was, because I mean, now he's sort of, you know, he's earned his confidence, I guess he could say. But in reading how he spoke, and I guess I kind of remember this a little bit back then, but it obviously wasn't a thing until maybe years later. But I mean, he was
Starting point is 00:09:04 pretty confident with the media. He was pretty confident with Robert Kraft. And we all know the story about how, you know, he approached Robert Kraft after he drafted him and basically told him that it was the best decision he ever made. Well, that sort of carried through to like the rest of the media. I mean, everything that I read was this guy who was claiming he wasn't nervous. He was ready. He was underestimated. And this was like even before his first start. So I mean, that was pretty, I don't know if it's impressive or what, but the guy obviously knew who he was. Oh, absolutely. I will say the one difference that I noticed, the biggest difference was how much of a heart he was on the snap cadence. Like he was barking out signals back then.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I don't know if that was just like an overcompensation thing, but now he like, he still yells at people. It is not the same, you know, like he just, he's just trying to get the ball in his hands. But back then he was like, or maybe, maybe it was just the audio, the way it was different back then, but it just sounded like he was putting a whole bunch of extra oomph into snapping that football. I mean, I might play into, I also read that he felt like he always did whatever he wanted to do team-wise to get them motivated. But as a backup, he sort of don't have any leverage. So he felt that by being a starter for the first time, people actually would listen to what he was barking out. So it might have played into that.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Yeah, I could see that. That would make a lot of sense. The other part of the thing that you, that you had brought up that I was referring to was, yeah, the, the Bledsoe injury, but I actually thought it was interesting. And again, I didn't think anything of it back then, but there was a, so along with his punctured lung and the internal bleeding, I guess he might have or might have not blacked out for, you know, a number of seconds and in costs, you know, and, and Belichick kind of talked openly about it, which he obviously wouldn't today, but he was talking about how he regretted throwing Drew out there because he wasn't quite himself. And a lot of articles were actually addressing, you know, creating a concussion
Starting point is 00:11:18 protocol or something like that. Well, that was obviously years out, but that was pretty interesting to see and kind of see where Drew was at at that time as well. Yep. Yeah, no, that was, yeah, because that was before the whole, even before I think concussions were talked about as part of football too. Because the, the one thing that I've noticed about watching these games in general is just how much harder the hits seem and how there's a whole lot more like head contact in all these hits. I mean, I think the defensive star of this game that we'll get to eventually is Brian Cox. And he was just laying the wood on people, but it felt like he was leaving with his head the entire time. And like just like the offensive
Starting point is 00:12:09 receiver thing, not a thing. Oh, yeah, just laying out receivers. There was one kickoff return where Tabaki Jones basically just clothesline the kick returner and got a penalty for it, but was still taunting the entire time they were like calling the penalty, still like jacked up about it. It was, it was like a straight clothesline. Yeah, just straight up, just, just got us right across the neck. Like, oh no, he's beat me. I had to stick my arm close like this guy. It was, it was a bit brutal. And they called it a face mask. And like, that wasn't a face mask. He just, just mashed that guy's throat with his forearm. Commentators were like loving it too. Yeah. Well, that was Gus Johnson setting the tone here.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Do you see how it leads to his head? What a great hit. It's like, yeah. Oh, yeah. But before we get too far, let's, let's talk about the Colts because we probably should start with that. So this Colts team coming in was two and oh, they had blown the doors off of the dolphins and the bills, I believe. And the week before, like they like put up 40 something points on the bills, they didn't punt the entire game was, you know, the typical Peyton mating Colts offensive performance. I think their first four or five drives of the half were touchdowns for the first half in that game. So I looked it up and the Colts, what you favored by 11 and a half in this game coming in. Yeah. Coming into Fox Road Stadium against a team that
Starting point is 00:13:47 actually had a Belichick had given manning trouble in the past. Like the year before, I think the pages had beat them once. But this was not the Colts best year, actually. This was when they were still in the AFC East. They would finish the season six and 10, even after starting two and oh, and they would finish fourth in the AFC East out of five teams, I want to say. And they were one, the AFC East actually sent three teams to the playoffs this year. And they were one of the ones that weren't. It was them and the bills didn't make it, but it was the past dolphins and jets off in the AFC East made the playoffs. Here's an interesting morsel for you boys. You can put this in your little Halloween basket.
Starting point is 00:14:45 The head coach was Jim Mora, who is actually a different Jim Mora than the one who coached the Falcons. I didn't realize there was two of them. Are they related? Yeah, it's candy when you have that. That's what I mean. That's a tasty morsel. I don't know if you're related. I couldn't find anything in the 30 seconds of Googling I did, but I just I got super confused trying to find out which one was which. Yeah. Isn't it Jim Mora, Jr.? Again, I don't know if there's a relation or not, but I also was very sad in looking over everything and realizing that it was Jim Mora's, the Colts of Jim Mora's last season as a coach and that guy was a character and I miss him dearly. Yeah. Who's the playoffs guy? Yeah. Oh, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, playoffs. Playoffs. Talk about playoffs. And I think he folded up what I just want to win a damn game. So that's fair. That could have been killed. Yeah, that sounds like it might have been this season because they did finish six and 10 and missed the playoffs. Oh, was it this year? It could have been. Oh, man, that's great. The other coach of note in this game was their defensive coordinator of Vic Fangio. We might recognize from being a horrendous flak of LeBronco's team this year. And he is in charge of that dumpster fire. Although they're not flak alone anymore. They're flak less, right? Because he's out.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah, that's right. He just got hurt. So I'm sure I'm sure they'll turn it around the second half of the season without. Oh, yeah. Well, John always great at drafting quarterbacks. So this is a done deal. I was going to say which which one outlasts who, you know, is it Vic or is it Elway? I don't think Denver will ever get rid of Elway. That's forced on on the box. Yeah. Did you see the the story about how he had all the boxes checked for drafting Russell Wilson, except for the height one? And so he passed on him. That's so John Elway. He loves him some big white quarterbacks with massive arms. All right, so we'll go to the players.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I don't know if we can. Can any of you name anybody on the defense? No, I don't recognize a single guy. I recognize one guy. I recognize one name, and it was Jeff Burris. And I remembered him as a Buffalo Bill. I didn't even know he played for the Colts. I don't remember him being particularly good. I think I just had his football card growing up. That was literally the only I recognized, which makes a lot of sense when you see how this game ended. I love the talk of the commentators about how the Colts were feeling disrespected, because the offense was so good and everybody was talking shit about the Colts defense. And then the Patriots came in and just dominated them.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Offends had a lot more known names, obviously quarterback Peyton Manning. He threw for over 4,000 yards a season and 26 touchdowns. We also had 23 picks. And I think most of those came against the Patriots. Do they count? I'm assuming they don't count pick sixes as touchdowns thrown, right? For the quarterback now. Yeah, because I mean, that would give them an extra couple. I mean, if that was the case, the Dolphins would be like leading the league this year. I think Fitzpatrick would lead league every year. They hammered James Winston. James, definitely James. And then for wide receivers, they had obviously Marvin Harrison. Hang on, where's my note for this? I wrote this down. I thought it was funny,
Starting point is 00:18:40 so I'm going to beat you over the head with it. Marvin Harrison was dropping balls in this like he drops bodies. Oh, I thought that was a good one. And there was also Reggie Wain was actually on the team. This was his rookie season, but I don't think he caught a ball in this game. At least not one that I noticed. Yeah, he was in the factor. Yeah, Jerome Peyton, who was leading the leading the team in receptions, which was baffling, because I don't kind of recognize the name, but I don't remember him playing for the Colts for some reason. I do. I feel like he was like once Reggie Wain came to use like a solid number three guy.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Yeah, maybe, yeah. I don't know, but he didn't have a great game either. He was because Ryan Kaas was taking his head off every time he touched him. Yeah, that definitely set the tone. So Tyden was Marcus Pollard, who was actually the second leading receiver on the team this season behind Marvin Harrison. And then the running backs, which I want to talk about were Dominic Rhodes, who was the leading rusher apparently on the team, even though I don't remember seeing him much in this game. Yeah, he's a rookie too, I think. Yeah. And then Edgar and James was here. And I feel like he was the leading rusher for the past few years before this,
Starting point is 00:20:07 but I don't know if he had injuries or just a bad year or whatever, but he finished a distant second in rushing this year. And I kind of wanted to use that as a segue to talk about this Patriots defense because I thought, I don't know if they were in Edgar and James' head or if he's just soft. I don't remember. I remember kind of the general feeling of the Patriots being a harder team than the Coles and the Coles. So I was like a bit more finesse and you could kind of beat him up, but Edgar and James was super soft in this game. Did anyone else see that or am I an idiot? That's the home reason we're looking for Andy. I don't know. I mean, I kind of feel like he was always like that against the Patriots,
Starting point is 00:20:55 and I don't know if it was the type of game that they got into. I mean, obviously in this one, it was a little bit lopsided towards the end, but I don't know. I feel like, didn't you have a rap for being kind of soft sometimes? That's what I'm thinking. I know the whole team, but Edgar and James, he never seemed to finish or run. Every time I got hit, he just kind of went down. I mean, he seemed like fight for extra yards. Oh yeah, he's great in space. He can make people miss. He never seemed to try to get that extra yard. Yeah, I don't think that was style. A couple of like third and ones where they ran off the middle, he was like hit somebody and fell over, and that was it. So I don't know if it was
Starting point is 00:21:32 like if he was dealing injury or what, but I mean, he was kind of responsible for a lot of the mistakes on the Colts offense in this game. He had a rough game. I don't know. Peyton Manning threw some brutal interceptions. He did. And I think, I mean, this is a Bill Belichick defense going against the young quarterback. Because let's see, Peyton Manning, how many years had he been in the league at this point? Two or three? Yeah, but I mean, he was like, he was crushing it. You know, even in the year prior, I mean, his first year was awash, but I mean, he was kind of evolving the offensive side of things football wise. So I mean, yeah, he was young, but I mean, we got to give Belichick credit for coming up with a game plan that he was sort of blowing up
Starting point is 00:22:29 other teams with. And yeah, sure. I mean, as he got more seasoned, it was a little bit more of a chess match, but he still was a pretty experienced guy at this point, I feel. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at it now. His rookie year was 98. So this is his fourth year in the league. Yeah, he'd thrown for his first year he threw for 3700 yards and everything after that was at least 4000 yards. And in the two seasons prior to this year, he got on 13 and three and then 10 and six. So I mean, they had been putting up numbers, he'd been throwing touchdowns, and they were winning games. But still, he just looked lost in this game. I mean, there were some mistakes that weren't necessarily his. A couple of interceptions were bounced off of receiver's hands and stuff like
Starting point is 00:23:16 that. Like one of the ones, Edgar and James had a pass out of the backfield that he bobbled straight up into with Roman Pfeiffer's hands. God, so soft, so soft. And then the one where even Edgar and James, he caught a screen pass and then tried to switch the ball from one hand to another and just straight up dropped it. That's just soft. Well, and also, I mean, as we'll see as the season goes on, the way that they did play defense like Steve was talking about, they were like modeling wide receivers. And that was something that Peyton obviously couldn't adapt to and his receivers couldn't either. So it's sort of like, I think, a perfect storm for every part of that offense to kind of be affected in one way or another. Yeah, I think at that time matched up
Starting point is 00:24:09 really well with their offenses to apply. Yeah. Yeah, they're very kind of big physical corners. Even Ty Law, who you don't really think of as a physical corner, because of the time he played in was, I mean, you look at him play now and he was all over people. I mean, to Bucky Jones clothesline to dude. Exactly. I wanted to ask you about the, so Gus Johnson, Brent Jones or the commentators, did you have any level of hatred towards those fellas? Gus Johnson was pretty dumb, but I like, what's his name? Yeah, Brent Jones was kind of like whatever. I don't think he really knew what he was talking about. No, Gus Jones is great. He can make anything sound exciting.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah, he's one of my all time favorites. Yeah, no, Gus Johnson is great. Doing the final four is just music to my ears. From the parking lot. Sorrentine. From the parking lot. Exactly. Latista with the catch. But even in this, he had what was the, I throw it down. Brady threw a frozen rope. That's a good line. It was like a 20 yard in. It was great. I mean, he hooked it, but he just gets so excited. I also liked how they were, he was, he was, he bet Brent Johnson. He's like, I will carry your luggage for us a year. If the Colts could shut out halfway through the third quarter. And then I had to stop and look at the score and be like, did they, no, no, they got shut up. And then they showed the shot of the leader of the
Starting point is 00:26:02 Boston Symphony. And Brent goes, do you like the Symphony, Gus? And Gus is like, no, that's not my thing. And then they just kind of moved on. Glad we brought that up, boys. All right. Yeah. Before we get to the game, was there any other like like non football related stuff that you guys noticed? Because I had a couple of things. I noticed that Brady looked goofy as hell. Oh, absolutely. And it's amazing how he could take a team and get everyone on board. And like, obviously, the way he is now, Mr. Model and, you know, pristine everything. And I feel like that sort of, what was that? The most handsome man alive. Yeah, pretty much that. Yeah. And I feel like that turned around
Starting point is 00:26:50 like maybe like, oh, seven. So before that, he was sort of like this regular guy. But that was just fun to kind of see this wide eyed kid. He was a little dopey and like goofy. He is. He's such a goober. It's a little bit. He's a, what is that like Andy Griffith character in Happy Days, whatever like Ron Howard was. He reminds me of that kid. Oh, oh, I don't know. We didn't watch TV in the Brown House growing up. It was just right. It was PBS, right? Yeah. It was Mr. Rogers and football on Sundays. That was it. I don't think you need anything else. We couldn't even call it TV. We had to call it, you know what? Oh, that's right. We're allowed to say the word TV because otherwise we wouldn't
Starting point is 00:27:36 be allowed to get to watch TV. I mean, how did you guys deal with this growing up? Oh, boy. Even that wouldn't work sometimes. Jokes on you, mom. I'm addicted to Netflix. She did her best. I'm watching TV as we're doing this podcast right now. Yeah, I definitely went through a phase where if a TV was on, I couldn't not watch it. And that was a debtor. Oh, I can't fall asleep with a TV on. Oh, God, no. Did you guys notice the old school touchdown song? That was one of the things I want to bring up. What was that? Hey. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I always liked that one. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, oh, why'd they get rid of it? So I looked it up. It was written by Gary Glitter, who turns out was convicted of downloading over
Starting point is 00:28:31 4,000 pornographic images of children and sent to jail. Oh, man. He was also tried to having sex with an underage girl. Then in March 2006, Glitter was convicted of molesting two girls aged 11 and 12 in Vietnam and jail for three years. Wow. Way to bring it down, Andy. I know. As much as I like the song, I kind of understand why they don't play that one anymore. Yeah. Give me crazy training. I'm good. Yeah. But I was. Although, did you hear what happened Ozzy Osbourne recently? No. Child porn? I don't know. I'm just throwing that out there. I have no idea what's going on with Ozzy. There's like truth to that. Like, if you look up all those like hair metal guys from the 80s, almost all of them have like underage women rumors. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:21 that sounds about right. I mean, they all dress like underage women. I hope they were they were carding them. That's all I want. Oh, they definitely were. I'm sure they were checking IDs at the door. We've been on track for a while there. Yeah, not really. The other thing that I do wish they kept was every time the page is on defense and it was stirred down, they had that like bell tolling. Oh, yeah. I know they have the whatever horn it is now, but that bell tolling is ominous as hell. You know why they stopped that? Because the guy that would ring that fog horn thing, he was caught doing things with the turtle. And people were pretty upset about that. I don't know if you remember this or not. Are you involved? Yes. The writers changed ninja
Starting point is 00:30:16 turtles. No, I'm being serious, guys. If you look it up, Google it. Just type in guy who control the fog horn for Foxboro Turtle and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. All right. I'm on the listeners do that. In Google, it shows up. It does. What is it? No, because you made it up, you dickhead. No, I didn't. I don't like that, Greg. It does? What? You made the lie up, dude. I can't get from it, didn't I? All right. So with that out of the way, let's talk about the game itself. It was felt like it was over from the first quarter to me. And
Starting point is 00:31:12 I kind of forget what this feels like to be an underdog and take the lead in a game. Because I couldn't tell you the last time it happened like recently. Because usually it's the other way around where the Patriots are the favorite and it's an underdog beating them. And I know what that feels like because we had that was last year against the Titans where you kind of feel it in the first quarter like this isn't going to go well. If the Patriots win, it's going to be ugly and they don't deserve it. And the Titans just outplayed them. Yeah, me and Greg were there for that. Yeah, that's right. I was actually supposed to go to that game and I'm glad I didn't.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Although at the very end. I'm glad you didn't too. At the very end, I was like in the fourth quarter, it's like five minutes left, I'm like, Greg, let's leave. And he's like, nope. Take your licks, bro. That's right. True. Yeah. Yeah. And then the same year we whipped them up in the playoffs. No, we didn't play in the playoffs that year, did we? This is last year. Yeah, this is this past year. But it was all part of the journey. Yes. But yeah, I forgot what it feels like to be the underdog and take that lead like into the into the first quarter because it was how's that pumpkin going, Greg? It sucks, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Carbon pumpkin blows. It sounds like you're slurping on something. It's already coming out like shit. I just gave up. Oh, god. I'm not an artist. No, I mean, either. I'm an artiste. No, you're not. But yeah, I mean, this game, like the past just came out and controlled it from the beginning. They had was 103 rushing yards to the Colts 13 in the first quarter alone, which was basically all Antoine Smith. Like that dude is an absolute monster. He reminds me of like a skinnier like air blunt. Yes. Like he he's not the fastest guy. I mean, he was quick, but he wasn't like he wasn't going to pull
Starting point is 00:33:30 away from people like defensive backs if he's if he breaks off a run like they'll catch up to him. But he's going to he's going to make him earn that tackle. Well, he had a seven yard run. Not in this game. Pretty sure. Yeah, it was like 30 or 40 yards. But yeah, like in the first quarter, that early one. I don't remember. This is that. Oh, wait. Yeah. It was a it was a 39 yarder in the first quarter with a man. He's stiff armed guys. He was a sideline. Yeah, I remember that. That was awesome. Yeah, that's stiff. I was dirty. And it was just very like blunt to ask. He's like, well, I'm not going to run you. But I mean, you're not going to tackle me this.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I'm just going to put my fist in your face and we'll see what happens. And you have like what like 90 plus yards and two touchdowns, I think. Yeah, I think you went over 100 yards, isn't he? Was he? I don't know. I mean, he had a great game, though. Oh, no, you're right. He had 94 yards. Wow. I'm surprised he didn't go over. It's called show prep, Andy. Yeah, well, I feel like between the four of us, we'll we'll all do like one. We'll eventually get in the right area. And we got there eventually, right? That's good teamwork. Just like the Patriots offensive line. That's right. Oh, and speaking of the offensive line,
Starting point is 00:34:48 sorry. That's a good point, though. I was like, just looking at it, like just watching the game, I'm like, it's amazing how many guys on the offensive line were mainstays for the team, like just jotting down Matt, like Damien, Woody, Joanne, Druze. So that was a pretty solid foundation. Yeah. And even Mike Compton was there. I mean, oh, true. Yeah. He wasn't there for a long time, but he is he the only offensive lineman who wore a visor? That was sick. I remember thinking that was like the coolest thing back in the day. Yeah. I don't know. Why do they not wear that? Because you probably get poking a little fair amount down there in the trenches. Yeah, you would think some shit happens.
Starting point is 00:35:27 But I also noticed that I don't know if he did it in this game as much because they didn't play the shotgun. But I think there was an issue with Damien Damien Woody's shotgun snap. So they were kind of switch positions. If the quarterback was in the shotgun and Compton would be the the center and would be snapping shotgun. Wow. That is detailed observation right there. I did not notice that. Yeah. You say that, but I actually noticed it in the Jets game and I forgot to mention it. So damn much in the all 22s. Oh, yeah. I don't think they had those back then. But yeah, damn right. And I think eventually they'll they'll talk about it because I feel like it comes up like in the playoffs. Speaking of equipment, Brian Cox is whatever that thing is
Starting point is 00:36:20 on the back of his neck is still the best thing in the world. I want to call it a neck roll, but it extends above his helmet. So at that point, I think it's a roll anymore. It's like a plank. Yeah. And I don't know why it looks so intimidating, but I think it's the best thing in the world. It's great. It looks like he ripped out the the headrest of his car. He stuck it down the back of his shirt. I don't see that very often nowadays. I mean, it probably like constricts you pretty well, but and it's probably due to an injury or something come to think of it, but still look pretty badass. I mean, he wore it a lot because that's why Leighton Van Drash wears it because he had a neck injury, I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Back from the Cowboys. Well, I think the main piece of it is the intimidation factor. It definitely helps because a lot of the full backs wear him still like James Devlin. Oh, he has that like big roll thing. Yeah. It's not it's not as pronounced, but he's definitely got that. Yeah, that roll. Yeah. So I think it's basically if you're leading with your head into people, which are basically full backs and run stuffing linebackers. It's usually. What happened to those guys though? Like you remember like John Randall and the Vikings were you to like wear like war paint on his face? Yeah. I feel like that that's missing nowadays. Yeah. And that's kind of that was one of my points ever down. Like has there ever been a more psychotic linebacker core
Starting point is 00:37:49 than Brian Cox and Teddy Bruce in the middle? Yeah, that's that's insane. Those two, like it just looks like they want to hit anything. Like it doesn't even have to be a person. I feel like they just like come out at the beginning of like before the game and just start like running into the goalpost to warm up. I don't know. Psychotic. You could just like Vonte is perfect than anybody else. That's true. That's iconic. That's just work. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that's iconic. I don't know. I'm sure. I feel like that guy pretty much created the present day. Antonio Brown. Yeah, I suppose. Remember that game that he like laid a mountain. He was unconscious for like three weeks. Oh, that's right. Yeah. In the playoffs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I feel like Antonio Brown is slightly different since that day. He's never recovered. I think you're right. Yeah. That was brutal. Remember what mom wrote that letter to the NFL? Did she? Yes. I don't remember that. What did it say? It was the Dolphins playoff game against the Steelers. Oh, and like the backup quarterback. I think it was. It wasn't Tannehill. It was like Matt Moore. Yeah. He was just like sliding and just got like blown up. Yeah. No, he was rolling out. He threw the ball away and took a. It's like Dupree. Yeah. Took a helmet right to the Steelers. Dude, mom. I was watching that game with mom. She legitimately sent an email to the NFL. Because I explained the rule in college where you can review those things and she's
Starting point is 00:39:32 like, they need that in the fucking NFL. She's emailing them. Your mom's awesome though. I remember like being at some game. I don't know if it was soccer game or whatever, but everyone was booing and she was disgusted and yelling at everybody for having like no class. And I thought that was pretty awesome. Yeah, that's that's our mother. I feel like we should kind of touch on her because I think she is the reason we're into football, which is unusual, especially since I don't think most listeners know that she, her and dad were both born and raised in England and moved here when they were about like 30 late 20s, early 30s. No, it's early in that. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably mid to late 20s because I was born when they were 27. Also, Andy, you said most listeners,
Starting point is 00:40:28 we have no listeners. Well, actually, yeah, our listeners mom anyway. So we'll talk about her. Yeah, but she, the story that I was told, and I think we'll probably have to have her on to explain this in more detail, but she, because dad came over for a job. So he had a green card to work and stuff, but she didn't. She just came over because she was married to him. So she couldn't get a job over here. So he's kind of sitting around doing nothing. And so she started to learn about football. So she was watching it. But obviously, if you've come from a country that doesn't have football, you try to just like cold get into it. You have no idea what's going on. So what she would do is she would write down questions she would have about the game, like,
Starting point is 00:41:11 you know, what's the first down or, you know, what is off sides? And she would send it to work with dad would then take this piece of paper that his wife had written football questions on and give them to coworkers, American coworkers, and they would write down the answers for him or explain them to him. And he would come back and report, you know, what off sides was. Did your mom kind of invent Google? That's what that was. That's Google. That's yeah. Holy shit. That's amazing. It's like, it's like an ass jeeps. Yeah. But it was ass, ass mick. Yeah. But it should have been. Which is the thing about it, when she was like watching all the sports, like all the other Boston teams are sick. The Bruins, bad ass, the Celtics are winning like
Starting point is 00:41:57 championships every year. Red Sox are really good then too. And the Patriots crash. Yeah. But that was always her thing is even in England, she would always pick the shittiest soccer team to root for because she just loved the underdogs. So coming here, like the Patriots fit perfectly because this was like the Rod Rust era when they're going one in 15 and coaches were getting electrocuted at the podium sort of shit. Sounds like Greg moving to Raleigh and being an NC State fan. Same I do. Why she used to go to your soccer games in high school, Andy. That's true. Yeah. She never came to my games. You didn't play. 14 in the country, baby undefeated. Right. My soccer team, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I was on a soccer team, but I don't think I played much either. Were you in high school? No. No, you didn't last that long. We did play one year of football, though. That didn't last long either. No, my parents pulled me out for poor grades. Oh, that's right. Yeah. For academic reasons. Yeah, that's a shame. I think that's what you could have been, Mike. I know, man. I remember some scrimmage. I almost got a sack, so that was pretty cool. I don't know what I was doing playing my backer, but hey. I remember being scout team wide receiver and getting lit the fuck up. Brian Cox style.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Those guys, I mean, football is fun to play and all, but when you're like, I feel like we're undersized. So I kind of empathize with like these David Pattons of the world. And they really love to like light you up, I think. Oh, yeah. I remember I was, I mean, my helmet was too tight. My parents didn't quite fit right. It was a disaster, but I think I was the most pain overall over the course of several months I've ever been in. So props to these guys. Yeah, I would agree. I don't know how they do it. Me neither. Now I would dominate. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Now I don't feel pain. Right. I'm dead inside. It's beautiful. I put on some weight, so I'm ready to go.
Starting point is 00:44:15 This is true. I've also put on weight, but not in a good way. So speaking of football. Right. I like how we go back for like two minutes. That has good work. Yeah, we'll kill it. Let's see. So we're talking about Antoine Smith. He was kind of the driver of the offense. And we talked about Brian Cox, who was the driver of the defense. And he was actually, he was the lead blocker on the last Patriots rushing touchdown as well, which is pretty cool. So he was, I think he probably got the Belichick game ball in this game. That was a physical win. It was, it was, it was like one of those, like how you remember the pages beating the Colts. Yeah. I mean, you look at the score and it was like a lot of points,
Starting point is 00:45:03 but the, that team, the offense and the defense were just knocking people around. Yeah. Kind of miss it. Oh yeah. I mean, but obviously these guys, yeah, but they, I don't think they lasted as long either, or maybe they did. And now they're all just a little, yeah. Not in life. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Being like you, Milo. Oh man, I, I suffered a beating. I'm telling you, my helmet was two sizes too small. I had like
Starting point is 00:45:34 black and blue ears just by putting the helmet on. Mine was too big. Okay. You sound like Sam Williams. I mean, brown. Hey, Andy was there through it. Okay. They didn't have anything else. All right. I was like, I was like third string, like full back. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Me too.
Starting point is 00:45:51 They didn't care about me. And I was, I was six to 150 pounds. They had me running back. It didn't matter. They had me a full back. We got the dregs. We got the dregs of the equipment. Yeah, man. I just remember, I might have not even been 100 pounds. I'm full back. Kind of coach was running this thing. Coach.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Oh, it was dude. Well, he was varsity. We weren't on varsity. All right. Yeah. He was just the freshman team. That's right. He was in the vicinity. Was that who it was? Oh, I know. I think it was.
Starting point is 00:46:28 And then there was some marine guy that was there. Oh, yeah. Whatever. That guy, I forget the kids name. I don't know. He's something like that. Yeah. I don't know. Do you ask the world?
Starting point is 00:46:42 We, I don't think we did because I made friends with all the seniors. So. Oh, yeah. Watch out. I managed to bypass all that. But we may have seen some hazing back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of what? A lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of pedos.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Everywhere too. You go to the restroom, you go to the restroom. People are taking crafts with like the stalls, you know, wide open. I think we were afraid to take showers. I pretty much washed up in the lake nearby
Starting point is 00:47:14 when we went to camp. I mean, yeah. Oh, I didn't share that whole camp. I just to fuck it. Did not shower. Did you? Shower. I'm not sure I did either.
Starting point is 00:47:27 No, you don't want to be. No, you don't want to be a freshman in those showers. Dude, I've been a freshman in showers. It's not that bad. These are different. They're a different animal. I don't know if they exist now. Dude, you just strut in there, dick hanging and you'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:47:43 My dick was not hanging. It was tucked away. Like I said, I had to hide by like I had to put makeup on my ears so they wouldn't laugh at like my bruised ears. It's a different time. And seeing dick is one thing, but like having a touch on you is something else. Whoa. Making yourself look feminine.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Just just hanging on your shoulders. What what happened, Andy? Well, it wasn't us, but didn't come. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, yeah. I don't know if we should be talking about this. But no, no, this is this.
Starting point is 00:48:20 You know what? This should come to light. No, you cannot cut this. This needs to be stated that some crazy shit was going down. And we were we were silent and we let it happen. OK, do you want to describe the helicopter? Should I you can go for it, but I can vouch for it. You're you know, sorry.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Yeah. No, I don't think it is. We won't say his name, but there's a gentleman walked it. All right. Well, there you go. There's a gentleman who can do things with his balls that I've never seen since then or heard of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Yeah. He was able to twist them around the shaft multiple times and make it spin like a helicopter. Yeah. And then he would release it and it would kind of rotate as if it were trying to take off from his body. It was oddly hypnotic, I have to say. He would also sort of scarred her. Well, yeah, that's who, but, you know, we won't talk about that. You know, he would he would take out his member and gently place it in front of sleeping guys faces
Starting point is 00:49:21 and then gently wake them up so they they woke up with wiener in their face. I believe this is called sexual harassment, guys. I think that's just boys being boys. But somehow, Andy and I love how on topic we've been this whole time. Oh, yeah. This is football. This is football. I will say somehow I avoided to avoid in most of that.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I don't know how, but I don't need there. Well, I avoided because I was friends with you and you somehow were like the pet of all the the senior offensive linemen. Yeah, that's right. They like they they protected me and then they kind of let me like I remember one time being woken up and everybody was wearing just underwear in their helmets. And they're like, hey, Milo, let's let's go bang on everybody's cabin door. And I thought this was insane and I was sleeping.
Starting point is 00:50:14 So most people were forced to do it. But I was like, nah, you mind if I sit this one out and they were cool with it. So I have no idea. I did not partake for the record. I was not part of the sexual harassment of Andy Brown or anybody else. Nope. This is true. I'll vouch for that.
Starting point is 00:50:30 But this is where he got his nickname from. This is where Milo came from. That's true. Yeah. So I call because I was selected to do the Matthew Slater where I would have to do like the speech, you know, because they thought it was funny like this 105 pound kid. Hey, let's have them like do the ra ra thing. So as I was doing it, some guy, the team captain got my name wrong and he thought it was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:50:55 So nobody knew who I was before. And then I became known as a guy for my mispronounced name. So it was fantastic. He was Milo from then on. They, they, you know, I was friends with those guys. They, they were great. I'll bet you were. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Anyways, moving on. Speaking of dicks, how about the cold kicker, Mike Vanderjerk? That guy's a dick. He was pretty good, though. When he was sober, yeah. Well, even when he wasn't, can you imagine kicking the field smashed? Yeah, that would be tougher. Not exactly performance enhancing.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Although it probably calmed the nerves, depending on how many you had. Oh, true, true. I mean, it's like golf, right? A little swing oil. Yeah, exactly. Just a little liquid courage. Yeah. You don't want those nerves jangling.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Uh, speaking of kickers, though, I don't know why, but again, third week in a row, I have Lee Johnson's name down with a big star next to it. I thought the punting in this game wasn't that great. All right. Kicking in the end zone by like 10 yards. Yeah. Like the Colts punches kicking it literally out of the back of the end zone on a punt. Like I know it was windy, but like, come on, dude, you play for the Colts.
Starting point is 00:52:16 They don't punt from their own side of the field ever. Well, you should learn how to drop it inside the 20, I would think. I'm going to give, I don't want to spoil my best of the game, but I'm gone. All right. All right. Go ahead. Rable, first Mike Rable appearance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Oh, that's right. That was good. Some might say that's the first connection of Brady and Vrable, which the rumors have stated that if he leaves New England, he could join Vrable in Tennessee. Well, all right. 20 years later, baby. I heard he likes country music too.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Vrable or Brady? Oh, Brady. What? He's so eclectic. Yeah, Tennessee going to Nashville. I mean, it makes sense. I don't feel, I don't feel. You should, you should write that up, Greg, and get that out there.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Because if you don't, Shaft or Will. I'll just email Felger. Oh, Felger's all the fuck over it. I really, I promise you that. So, Greg, I'm a little disappointed in you that you haven't actually brought up Ty Law yet. Oh, man, he's an absolute stud. That's better. He shot Marvin Harrison.
Starting point is 00:53:39 They were like, talk, they gave his numbers like all those times he played the pass before like six touchdowns in five games or something. Ty Law steps in and just bully balls. You know, just shoving around the field. Don't win every one of them. He really was. He's the best athlete in the secondary, the paths I've ever seen. You think so?
Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah, from like size, speed, ball skills. He was a surprisingly good, but big guy. Yeah. Some might say he's in the Hall of Fame. That's true. Some could say that. Hall of Fame. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Even Otis was pretty good. Yeah. OTIS, baby. Although who on, yeah, because Otis was at the end of the second quarter, the Colts were driving for a score and then Peyton threw a pick to Otis Smith. 78 yards. Oh, my God. That could be the best moment.
Starting point is 00:54:37 But who threw the block to get Otis Smith actually around the corner and into the end zone? Ty Law. That's right. The lead blocker. That's right. And then Peyton Manning getting thrown out of the club by Anthony Pleasant or some defensive lineman on the replay they're trying to. Oh, we talked about the beginning, Peyton.
Starting point is 00:55:02 The what? Oh, yeah, we haven't even talked about that yet. Anyways, dude, it's so good to see it again. Oh, man, I wrote that, yeah. At least eight different times in that game. So many times, dude. So many times. Well, you'll throw someone like a tough pass and they won't catch it.
Starting point is 00:55:17 And then you'll just look at him with this mopey look on his, oh, it's so perfect. And just kind of throw his hands up. What are you doing? Yeah, dude, this is a bad throw. It was beautiful. Although I have to say, I forgot how obnoxious Manning was pre-snap. And it gave me flashbacks to playing Madden back in the day. Where they had like programmed that in that he would just make audible until the clock
Starting point is 00:55:47 ran out and then he would hike the ball and you're sitting there waiting like, I just just hiked the ball. We know what's happening here. I have this game on easy. I'm going to sack you on this play because that's why I have it on easy. So just fucking get over it and like call a play. Yeah, he was the worst. He he was fun to watch, but it's hard to like the guy.
Starting point is 00:56:08 I started liking him as soon as he started making commercials. So he started changing me. Yeah, he's got like a little YouTube series. So have any of you watched it? No. Oh, is that in the clips? Where you like breaks down stuff or something? Yeah, because he did one on Brady's overtime drive
Starting point is 00:56:31 against the chiefs in the playoffs last year. And it's actually really good because obviously. Oh, he's talking about that thing. Because he's got a show now, too. Really? I thought that was a comedy show thing. Yeah, where he goes around like interviewing like famous players like Franco Harris and shit. Are you sure that's not a state farm commercial?
Starting point is 00:56:54 It's fine. I could start doing commercials. So like what his third year in the league? Right. Yeah, whatever he did cut that meat. Oh, I know. I know one of the guys in that commercial. He got to share some screen time with Peyton Manning.
Starting point is 00:57:10 I think he was the guy that was asking him to sign the loaf of bread. You get screen credit for that? I don't think so, but he probably got a good chunk of change. All right. What's what's he doing now? He's that was obviously like a stepping stone to start him, right? He is doing some fun. His name is Jesse Gavin.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I mean, he's doing some great videos online. He's also a successful commercial actor. So shout out to Jesse Gavin. I actually recognize that name probably from you, I would imagine. I don't know. Is this the guy that you banged, Mike? Yeah, would you bang him? Then I would you have sex with him, Mike?
Starting point is 00:57:49 Would I? Or this is not the same guy that like hooked up hookup of Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. These are two separate people, gentlemen. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. They're still stands. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:02 I still don't know if he's banged this second guy. In this day and age, guys. I mean, come on, really? Come on. You're better than that. No, we're not. No. Plus, I think my girlfriend has got home.
Starting point is 00:58:15 So she's not going to like any of this. So hush, hush. Would you bang her? You know, I don't want to. Would you bang me, Mike? I don't want to hear dirty laundry. But you Greg, you kind of look like Tom Brady. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:58:35 My mom says it all the time. She says it's all of us, Greg. No, she doesn't say it to me. Sorry, Steve. Last thing I'll say on Peyton Manning, though, is I did love how he sort of managed to bypass the whole HGH thing. And we never hear about it again. So kudos to him for shucking the system.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Yeah. Wow. You think he did it? Fight the man. His wife seems like she could be on HGH. I mean, I don't know. It seems like a plausible story to me, right? No, no.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I have a strong opinion on this. We can't call witch hunt for Brady in the flake gate and then turn around and witch hunt Manning. OK, all right. It's homerism at its finest. All right. You've got to be consistent. Do you realize what podcast this is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yes. But I'm trying to add some bounce. We'll get to the flake gate, man. I mean, Brady is guilty. Oh, don't get me started on that shit. Oh, God. He destroyed his phone, Mike. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:42 You don't do that? Evidence number one out of 352. And we'll go over every one of them. We could do that. This time. I'm pretty sure the people on this podcast could do that. I don't know. Whatever that report was.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Specter. The specter. Specter. Yes. Yeah. Like 500 pages. You should get that guy in the pod. Ireland's specter.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Well, and who is the investigator? I don't know. I don't know. We can get him. I'm sure he's not doing that. Let's find out. We'll make some phone calls. Look, we're going to get to the bottom of this.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Someday, Brady's going to write his expose because his guilt is going to haunt him. He's a fucking cheater. Even if we do get him on the podcast, we're going to end up asking him if he can do that. The helicopter dick thing. Oh, shit. Ask him if he'd fuck like everybody. Look, guys, we're here to talk football. And we haven't even gone to the second half.
Starting point is 01:00:43 OK. All right. Well, the third quarter didn't have much. And so let's just jump to the fourth quarter. I actually didn't watch the third quarter. All right, good. Don't worry about it. You missed a couple of turnovers now, is it?
Starting point is 01:00:57 Fourth quarter was where all the action happens. There's four touchdowns scored in the fourth quarter. Three of them by the Patriots did. I mean, well, one of them paid manning at a hand in because the cold scored at the touchdown right at the end of the third quarter. To pull it a little bit closer, it was 23-7 at the end of the third quarter. And the Patriots immediately went down and scored a touchdown, which is very patriot-esque.
Starting point is 01:01:28 That was the screen pass to Antoine Smith, where he rumbled for like 40, 50 yards. And then two plays later, Kevin Falk ran in for a touchdown, which you don't see very often. And then like two plays later, Colt have the ball, and that was the tie-law pick six. And that was the game, even though Peyton would follow that up with a touchdown drive of his own eventually through a touchdown on fourth down.
Starting point is 01:01:56 That went for two, missed it. It's now 44-13, and the game was over. And I don't think Peyton Manning actually saw the field after that. They brought in Mark Rippin. Oh, hell yeah. Redskins fame. Yes, exactly. I think we'll leave that when they said that.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Yeah. Probably start on that team right now. Definitely could. Yeah, I'll hide him. He can be the next coach. May as well, right? The London Redskins? It feels nice.
Starting point is 01:02:27 I feel like they probably changed the Redskins part. Maybe. The London Redcoats? Oh, Redcoats. Not bad. Not bad. I did find it interesting that there is video evidence out there of Bill Belichick celebrating touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I mean, he's fist pumping. He's clapping. I don't know what year that stopped. I mean, there's rumors that he sold his soul, which I think we can all agree on. But maybe it happened then. But there is evidence of him celebrating and smiling. Yeah, because I mean, I remember this year. What was that?
Starting point is 01:03:08 This year? He sold his soul in 2001. I don't know because he was still celebrating. Right. I think like, I mean, if we really want to like discuss when he sold his soul, I feel like it was after 2002. I was going to say after 2004. Because that was when he was he was still celebrating.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Because remember, that was the end of the Charlie Weiss and Romeo Cornell, like the three of them. And they were like hugging at the end. And like he was. Oh, right. I was getting pissed because they poured the the Kool-Aid on him and his dad. And like, well, his dad's super old. That's going to kill you.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Oh, that's a good point, actually. So I think it was after that. He didn't win for a couple of years. And then he sold his soul. And that was 2007.
Starting point is 01:03:50 You're right. Because then the culmination of that was probably 2007. We saw a little little signs of that. And then here we are now. Spygate, you know, and then make sense. Roger Goodell. I never thought of it that way. But yeah, you're you're right.
Starting point is 01:04:04 That was probably the last intimate moment he ever had. The devil trying to collect his spygate. Yeah. Now, if you were at him, I mean, let's just say hypothetically, the devil approaches you, whatever. And he's like, you know, giving you this deal where you're going to get, let's say eight Super Bowls. By the time you die, you coach until you're 85, right?
Starting point is 01:04:24 That's pretty good run. I mean, you know, social media goes crazy. You're beloved. Then you burn eternally. But like, who cares? Because like, there's no social media in hell. Who gives a shit? So would you do that?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Yes. You would 100 percent? It depends. What what is hell? Well, is hell watching? Because because if hell was watching, somebody else break all your records, that would suck. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I didn't even think about that. And I would eat him alive for it. That's what I mean. Yeah. Man, you're bringing up great points today. And I know this. You'll have to listen to our two of the podcasts until I start breaking and bringing up good points.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Yeah. Well, it's going to get warmed up. You're definitely bringing a different perspective to the table. Absolutely. All right. I think that's that covers most of the games. Let's let's do some bests and worsts. Anybody want to go first?
Starting point is 01:05:23 I know Steve already gave his best. Steve, you got a worse. What was your best again? I've already forgotten. It was like an hour ago. My variable sighting. Oh, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:31 The beginning of the mic. First of my life at that point. I would think so. First of most people's lives. It's not like you played much on the Steelers. It's all like that. Do you have a worst? I have another best.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Does that count? The fuck it? Yeah, let's go. We're a pages podcast. As many bests as you want. They cut to like John Bon Jovi and Robert Kraft sitting together. Did they? Yeah, that's super young.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I wrote down the note that Robert Kraft was like a man who didn't need to pay for hand jobs. I mean, you could say like his wife was sitting next to him. Okay. Well, wait to make it real on now. Too soon. I hate when you do that. Too soon. Rest in peace, Myra.
Starting point is 01:06:13 All right. Greg, give me your best and worst. My best was Manning's favorite wide receiver, Ty Law. And my worst is Drone Pathens future oatmeal brain and just general like, you know, unsteadiness and mood swings. Oh, shit. You got lit up a bunch in this game. Like from the first play.
Starting point is 01:06:43 From the get. I think that's the darkest worst moment we've had. I don't think so. Last week we talked a lot about 9-Eleven. So I forgot about that. Yeah. There was a twin tower joke in there somewhere. All right, Mike, your best or worst?
Starting point is 01:06:59 All right. Best. I mean, I have a few honorable mentions just quickly like the 528 yard screen and the fourth. So Brady got like hammered. They kept this composure completed a pass. And I was just picturing like Blzzo like running across the field, like closing his eyes, like throwing like cross body to like tuck it in rolling.
Starting point is 01:07:21 So six. But yeah, Brady didn't do that. So that was pretty great. And even just the fact that like they sent Brady out to run a fourth and three, like throwback screen pass in the fourth quarter was it was showing the trust that they had in him even at that point. It was pretty cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:41 And then another just quick aside, I just, they threw up a graphic of like what Foxborough Stadium was versus like, you know, what ended up being Gillette Stadium. And I mean, they're like, it was a $6 million stadium. The new one's like $325 million. I mean, there's like 53,000 bench seats in Foxborough, which were like cold and uncomfortable. Zero in Gillette. 68,000 chair backs.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Apparently that was like a hot. Oh, yeah. Actual chairs instead of benches. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought that was pretty cool. And then the last honorable mention would be Brady just randomly talking on the sideline with like a lying kid or whatever that was.
Starting point is 01:08:23 He was just talking to some random dude, not even on the Patriots team and just being a normal guy. He is. He is a normal guy. Something incredibly handsome. Right. Well, after 2007, when he sold his soul, we can talk about that next week. Bye. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:40 I think we'll have to save that. And then, yeah, so my best moment was actually when they had a, oh man, there's too many like commentator things. Why? I mean, the commentator, all right, there's two great ones. One is the commentator debating through the commercial. Why didn't they go for two? Right.
Starting point is 01:09:01 So they, the Colts kicked like, and they're like, why don't they go for two? And they're breaking down the math and they're going, with three touchdowns and three two-point conversions, they could take the lead. And they're legitimately talking about this. I thought that was fantastic. Yeah. The Colts are down 24 points. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:16 It was, it was so funny. Another great moment that I liked was they, they had a poll, which O and two team had the best chance of making the playoffs. Yeah. And it's a word listed in their own game. That was going to be my worst. Yeah. Oh, that was the best for me.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Yeah. I thought it was. I have it. It was of the NFL team starting O and two, which has the best shot at making the playoffs, Buffalo, Detroit, Kansas City, Minnesota, Tennessee, or Washington. And then like, eventually they realized, wait, the Patriots aren't on this list. Yeah. I remember the commentator was like, maybe they can, uh, they could use it and have a
Starting point is 01:09:48 chip on their shoulder. And I could just picture like Belichick, like, you know, after they came out. Yeah. Yeah. Like, did you guys see that CBS like left us out of a poll? Like, so that was pretty funny. I'm in the worst moment. That was up on the, uh, on the bulletin board.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Oh, hell yeah. Super Bowl week. Um, Lord of Malloy would be ranting and raving. Oh, God, yeah. And then, uh, the worst moment for me was just seeing Peyton run up the middle for 10 yards and a touchdown. Cause how does that even happen? Yeah, that was tough.
Starting point is 01:10:18 But it was pretty spry. He was quick. If Peyton's running for touchdowns, you know, you're doing something right though. Cause that ain't his thing. That's right. I like those. All right. My best.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Um, following a failed third down conversion where Peyton Manning thought they got it, uh, manning right over to the referee and was like trying to convince him that the spot was wrong. And Brian Cox is standing on the sideline waving at him, waving goodbye. That was awesome. You catch that? He was so in Manning's head. Brian Cox had himself a fucking game.
Starting point is 01:10:55 So that was definitely my best. Um, honorable mention would be the fact that you saw the Patriots run Troy Brown on the jet sweep that like, as he's coming in motion, they just hike it real quick to her on a hand as well. And it wasn't as smooth as you see it nowadays, but like, you know, you can bell check ahead of the game as always. Um, my worst was going to be the, uh, the O and two graphic, but instead I will say it's the, uh, audio from this or the old Fox pro stadium where it sounded like we were listening
Starting point is 01:11:30 to a high school football game. Like you could hear the, um, you could hear the stadium announcer announcing the, the results of the play like Aaron, Juan, Smith up the middle for two yards, like as, as you hear the announcers saying the same thing. And then you could actually get out of this on headphones and I could hear like a lot of fan chatter. And so I wrote down a few that I heard, um, one of the cheers was way to go. Oh, I'm looking good so far.
Starting point is 01:12:01 This was that one. It was probably like three plays into the first drive, which was great. I heard that too. I was like, good for them. Super. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then another one was a, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Peyton, which I don't know if it came from a Colts fan. Um, and then there was another one. Uh, don't walk away from me, you idiot. And then there was the guy repeating. I have as, as repeating five times, get me more cheeseburgers. You just kept repeating that as it's like communicating going on. Yeah. And then like towards the end of the game, the little guy, uh, he must have been talking
Starting point is 01:12:46 shit to a Colts thing. He's like, are you guys going to lose in the first round again? For the third year in a row? Like that's, that's the, uh, the taunting of a guy who's never been there before. Yeah. Who just hasn't seen the playoffs in a long fucking time. Yeah, exactly. To a Colts fan.
Starting point is 01:13:05 It's like, well, you're going to get to the playoffs and lose again. How that must suck, huh? One of the playoffs feel like. No, that was, uh, I was the worst, but it was, uh, so I think my worst is probably the, uh, the Gary glitter fact, the fact they stopped playing that song because he's a kid. He did learn. I have the worst.
Starting point is 01:13:25 I just thought of it. That's right. I had always thought Brady's first start was that game in Indianapolis that we're going to watch later. Oh. I forget who it was, but he patent throws Ron's. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:42 I was fully expecting to turn that game around. And I was like, wait, it's in Fox, bro. I mean, this was still a good game to watch though. It was. He was pretty steady. You know, uh, no mistakes, nothing flashy, just solid Brady. I did. I was a little disappointed that his first touchdown didn't go to Kevin Falk on that
Starting point is 01:14:06 screen pass though, because he, he was a shoestring tackle at like a three yard line. And that should, uh, that was the, that was the fourth and three screenplay too. Right. So that would have been a hell of a first touchdown throw, but we have to wait for that for next week. So that's, that's what in the game, that's what we call a teaser. We're going to tease that. We're at you.
Starting point is 01:14:27 And what are we teasing exactly? We're teasing Tom Brady's first touchdown pass. Oh, and who are we teasing, uh, with that table? Oh, yeah. We're teasing our mom. Oh, hi, Mrs. Brown. So as I shall tune in next week and listen to, uh, us talk about the Patriots at the chargers, at the chargers, home versus chargers.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Find out next week. Oh yeah. It's called a teaser. We're real good at teasing. Uh, and the best part is, uh, that's not next week. Next week is at the dolphins. This is just, all right, I'm done. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:08 On that note, we will see everybody next time on the Patriots, Nancy podcast.

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