Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2001 Week 8: Patriots @ Falcons

Episode Date: March 25, 2020

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This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons, and of course Michael, sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. All right. Should we just jump right in, shall we, boys? All right. I'm so too excited, Jesus. All right. Welcome to the Pages Dianesey podcast in-person Pages Dianesey podcast this week. We are here in New Hampshire in the sticks of New Hampshire. This probably won't be aired at Christmas, but it is Christmas for us. So we are all

together in the same room for the first time in little fucking years, I would think. And I got to say, this really drives home on the point that we're all people for radio, you know? Looking at how ugly you guys are. I don't know. I don't know. Mr. Melo has a face for TV. No, that's adorable. It's not like a man bun. It's like a man ponytail. No, Pony. I was thinking of putting it in that box. I didn't know. I didn't know what the family was going to say. I didn't know what your parents were going to, you know, I wanted to be respectful. You came with the last samurai look. Got it. Oh, so you can turn that into a frope you wanted. Oh, yes. Yes. I hate to admit it, but it was

recently straightened. I know. Los Angeles guys, you know? At least I don't support the Rams, so. We're officially out of the playoffs, I believe, right? The Super Bowl hangover. Yeah. And I this is there's nothing new with Patriots, but I heard it today. It was a stat that I heard that I've already told Stephen, but I need to share with as many people as possible. So I heard a stat today for James Winston and the games where he has thrown a is his record in games where he's thrown an interception on the first drive. He is four and two in those games. Wow. That oddly makes sense. Two things. One, he's done it six times this year. Right. Enough to track it. He's got a winning record. Good for him. What about all the other

times? Other times what? What's the record? I don't know what they're at right now. They're eight and eight. I think they're like eight and eight. Maybe seven or just lost. But they still have another week to go. He's got time to set this record and own it. Yeah, they're they're supremely mediocre. But he could he could join the 30 30 club too. Yeah, where you touch down 30 because he's I think is he leading the league in both touchdowns and interceptions? Maybe not touchdowns. I think Jackson is but he's top three touchdowns and far and away at the least. He'd be the first ever 30. That's impressive. Call it 30 for 30. He's tied right with the NFL record on pick sixes. On pick sixes in the season. Yes, with did anybody know this?

Yes, the Houston Texans did. No, you would think Eli Manning. Very close, but no. Yes, with six in one season. And I haven't actually looked it up which season it was, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was the one we're talking about this week or this year, because he threw two against the Patriots in the first time the pass for the Colts. One to Tylon, one to OTS, Otis Smith. So how was that debate for goat status between Peyton and Brady going these days? Yeah, if Peyton is tied with James in any interception category all time, that ought to be a ding. That's a black mark for sure. All right, that's all I want to talk about. But I mean, we'll stay in the where the NFC South,

is that where the Buccaneers are? Yeah. With the Atlanta Falcons going down to the ATL. We actually made it halfway through the season, boys. I was, I didn't think that would happen. I mean, it only took us like most of a regular NFL season, though. Got there, guys. We got there. Round of applause. Round of applause. All right. So week, week eight, coming into the game. Pats are three and four Falcons are three and three. So the battle of mediocrity in theory, at least at this point in the season. The, let's see, the Falcons will finish this season. Mired in mediocrity will finish season seven and nine. Fourth in the NFC West. So when I said NFC South, you all agree with me? Fuck all of us.

In the NFC West, it's like San Fran, the Rams, the Cardinals, right? Well, this is pre 2002 when they shifted everything. So we both may be right. Oh, boy. I'm not about to look it up. Oh, man. Am I the guy looking things up again? Because that ended very well. Why would you put India in the east allowed Miami in the east? Yeah, there. So, yeah, who would it be in the in the AFC East? Who would you put if you realign them? Patriots, Bills, the Quebec, whatever, giants, giants, either. I don't know if you want to put both New York teams in the same. And they play each other all the time. Yeah, but that would be pretty. See you next close. Oh, Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Next closest. And that would

be a hell of a rivalry. Well, it wouldn't have been everybody in the AFC North would think so. But the Patriots have owned the Steelers over those years. Right. Steelers fans don't know that. Deep down they do, but they want to admit it. They're like, oh, we'll make the playoffs and then we'll win the first round game and then we'll go to New England and beat the Patriots with the Codges. Just like, okay, even you double. Quack, quack. Yeah. So the Falcons would win three in a row after this game. That was the longest winning streak of the season. But they would follow that losing five of the last six games to finish out of the playoff hunt, we'll say, to be polite. Had coach Dan Reeves. Remember Dan Reeves. Yeah.

Coach for 23 years. I didn't realize he coached that line. You got like fell off the horse. What? What? And it was paralyzed slight. Oh my God. Anything to ski in, Greg. And now the guy who played Superman. I know. He's being slightly facetious. I don't remember that guy's name. They may be related. We don't know. I mean, I won't say, yeah, I'd like to force the Dan Reeves played retired against the Pages, but this is his only game. So that joke doesn't really work. That would have been great, though. It was the only game against Belichick. Was this ever?

At least when Belichick was in the Patriots. Yeah. Even though coached 23 years and played us once. This is kind of towards the end of the his tenure. He did 12 years of Broncos for the Giants and then finished with seven years with the Falcons. He only coached till 2003. It was 81 to 2003. So this is like his Twilight era. He must have played Belichick when he was in the Browns, maybe. Maybe. You would think, yeah. Or probably even maybe with the Giants when he was a defensive coordinator, but. So they're what? Three years removed from their Super Bowl year. Is that right? No, 98 was the dirty birds. Whether I'm 14 and two.

Oh, man. I love that team. That was 98. So three years removed. Moll Anderson. Yep. But after that, so they went 14 to that year. NFC champions made the Super Bowl. Didn't win it. Did they get rocked by somebody? Broncos. Yep. That was bad. Wait. No, it was 49ers. No, never mind. I'm thinking of somebody else. Right. So 14 and two. That year, 98. They're Super Bowl hangover lasted one, two, three, three years. They went five and 11, four and 12. And then this year was seven and nine before they went. Wow. Super Bowl, the five wins.

Yeah. And then four wins the year after. I mean, I literally recognize nobody on this team. I have my notes here. I don't recognize anybody. Oh, shit. Algie Crumpler. And then I spotted Mike Vick on the sidelines. Like that's literally how my thought process went. We were a couple of defenders that were pretty nasty. I knew nobody. Keith Brookings. Keith Brookings. I recognize his name, but I realize how. I mean, he was like the Earl Acker type, not just because he's white. Thank you, Greg.

I know you're going to say that. He also reminds me a lot of Sean Lee. Well, you know, he was pretty decent. I mean, there's a couple of good guys in there, right? Yeah. So I had, um, he was the only pro baller in defense people. He had 125 tackles that year, three and a half sacks, two picks, two fumble recoveries. Like the guy was an absolute, he was, I think he basically was a defense. He was a bit of a Sean Lee as the defense, as he goes, the defense goes, maybe without the injury problems. Other big names I had were Ray Buchanan,

cornerback. I remember him. He was, uh, was he number 24? We forgot to look it up before this, but we're just going to assume he was because, you know, all the best. Exactly. All right, Greg. That's right. Science. Ashley Ambrose. Well, they both, they, they co-led the team with five picks. And then Patrick Kearney was the, uh, defensive annual of the team with 12 sacks. I don't remember him. He was pretty good. Literally none of these guys, maybe Ray Buchanan, that's it. I remember Ashley Ambrose. I don't remember Patrick Kearney.

Especially in the offense. There was nobody else. Wait a minute. Offense. Sean Jefferson, guys. Sean Jefferson. Dude, that was like the Vincent Brizby days. Wasn't it? Oh yeah. Yeah. He was playing opposite him.

Oh, it was 284. Yeah. That's the same guy. That was the same guy. That was the same guy. That was the general vicinity. Yeah. Yeah. Same guy. Yeah. Cause he played for the Patriots.

It was 96. 96 to 99. Yeah. Yep. Before that, he was a charger. So it got such a generic name. I didn't put two and two together. Well, did you know there's a Sean, the guy on LSU right now, Sean Jefferson Jr. Is it a son? Not a son.

And not related at all. I got so excited when I was watching them play and then I looked it up and I'm like, well, man. Just not related. That's kind of like we talked about Jim Mora earlier. Not sure if that's like the later Jim Mora son or not. I think we just kind of assumed that they were just named the same, but we never actually put together.

I think it might be. Didn't we figure that out? Nope. I don't know where my phone is or else I would go down the Google rabbit hole. Not in the moment we didn't. But yeah, so all kinds of players. Chris Chandler, who led the team in fumble recoveries with four. Cool.

Pretty great. Also, not as great since they were his own fumbles, which he also led the team in with eight. Eight is not bad. It's only one every other game. Achilles Smith style. She was pretty a pretty stationary guy. But he actually went.

He went six and eight. But I remember there was some stat in the game. I think I wrote it down of his win-loss record when he actually finished the game. It was really good. He just didn't often finish games. Oh, yeah. Something that he's always in. Yeah, like constantly injured.

This is the quarterback we're talking about, right? Yeah. Again. Soon. Yes. Yeah. He went to a Super Bowl. So forget it.

He started in a Super Bowl. Yeah, he didn't write it down. He also threw three inceptions in a Super Bowl. Besides the touch. We had a 2,800 yard, 16 touchdowns, 14 picks. But the bigger story or quarterback for the Falcons this year was their first overall draft pick, rookie Michael Vick. Was he number one overall?

Vick. Number one overall. Wait, when did he start going by Mike Vick? I don't know. Was that a thing or? Well, I mean, we're pretty early. No. Well, I think just in this podcast in general, we tend to use full names.

So I'm going to call him Michael Vick. Okay. But he was Mike, right? Like I call you Michael Mello. Yes. And Michael Mello. It's a beautiful name. He did start, I think it was after prison, maybe?

Maybe it was his prison name when I go by Mike Vick. Was it? I am curious when that switch happened. Because he was Mike and then he made a statement where he wanted to be known as Michael. Do you like respect him? I think it was when he was like hanging out with... Oh, so he went from Mike to Michael, not the other way around. Oh, I thought it was the other way around.

I think so. Maybe I'm wrong. Like Mike. I don't know. I mean, you'd think if you wanted more respect, you'd go to Michael. You would think, yeah. You want the full... I mean, he's been covered up by like one of them, like, you know, not...

Tony Donge. Tony Donge. Yeah. I imagine the Google results for Mike Vick were probably not in his favor. So maybe he's like, you know what? I'm going to change the name of the internet works. That's true. So he put a whole bunch of SEO effort into Michael Vick and then they just like switched.

PR101, baby. Nobody will remember if I just slightly tweak PR101. PR101. Remember what? You start fresh. Huh? Remember what? Woof, woof.

What are you talking about? I think his nickname was Big Dog, maybe? Something like that? Is that what we're talking about? I think I'm missing something. Wow. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I missed all of that.

I'm just trying to play at PCs. Doesn't get fired later. Okay, we got Jonas Gray to condone it. So at Wide Receiver, they had four guys who seemed to be carving copies of each other. There were four guys with just about 500 yards receiving, which is hugely mediocre. Uh, Terrence Mathis, who I recognize the name, but couldn't pick his face out of a lineup. Tony Martin. The aforementioned Sean Jefferson.

And I assume he's Greg's favorite, Brian Finneran, because of the color of his skin. Wow. Come on, man. See that? I mean, I don't know if this is what we're doing. Yeah. Is this what we're doing? I mean, well, I'm the college failure, so I figured we just start something

about Gregor you have. He's the racists of the group. You do have a degree, Andy. Don't put yourself down. I do. But you know, my favorite joke is when it gets cold like this. Now that you guys are here in New Hampshire is when it gets down. Well, if I turn on my car and it says it's zero degrees Fahrenheit,

I'll text my wife and I'll say, you know what the weather today? My time at Penn State having common? Zero degrees. Wow. You didn't even laugh at the first time, which is why I keep sending it. I'll tell you, get to zero degrees. No, it's the opposite, actually. Well, if I'm a racist, Steve touches kids.

I also don't condone any of this. I didn't go to Penn State. Andy did. And I apologize for saying that you might have enabled his behavior. I assume you didn't know that that was going on, Andy. I was not on a first name basis with any of the Penn State coaching staff. At all? No, no, just put him on the hot take.

He didn't even do it. I'm going to put that out there. Who didn't do it? Dandosky. Yeah. Why don't you read the transcripts, bro? All right. Go into the script.

It was a phone call. Perfect. Dude, they're key witness. He's all over the place. Is he a kid? Andy remembers this thing. What the fuck? Andy remembers that thing.

I won't actually saw anything. Well, some people did. They were just children. Before the record, you didn't see anything. I did not see anything. No. OK. No.

That's a red hot thing. I did read an article that said that. But I don't know enough about it. But worse, yeah, there were some apologists at the time. He's going to edit whatever you just said. He's just going to leave you. I'm just going to clip out the pieces that I like and say this later. That's going to be the teaser for the podcast.

It was Greg saying. Dandosky's innocent. I mean, that's PR 101. There's a little sound clip. Greg, Jerry's saying Dusky, not guilty. Podcast to find out more. The witness is all over the place. You don't like your job, right, Greg?

Speaking of, I can't even, I can't tie that in. We're just going to talk about the running backs. Um, Maurice. You're going to try that. I was going to say, speak of kiddie touchers or something, but. algae crumpler. That's actually not bad. See, well, we'll go to tie that one.

Yeah, that is pretty good. All right. Yeah, algae crumpler. Who? Yeah. Cumpler, apparently. Look here. I feel like he's ancient.

Yeah. He's playing with the pads next to it, didn't he? Yes. He did. Yeah. Oh, you're right. Yep. Well, like that's four or five years of that.

2010. 2010. That's relatively recent. 10 years ago. Yeah, fuck. It's middle of the dynasty. We'll get there eventually. Well, like that's when he was like on his way out, though,

when we had algae crumpler. He was pretty much done. That was the last season. And this was his rookie season, which means Brady was already a year older than him. Fuck. Because that's what struck me. I was like, let's see. algae crumpler.

I've been there forever. You know, algae crumpler is 42. This is his birthday today. He was born December 23rd, 1977. Happy birthday, algae. This is going on to algae crumpler. Yeah, happy birthday. We're going to dedicate this to him.

I'm sure he'll love it. Fantastic. He's a good guy. I met him once. I got it. No. Stupid. I thought somebody should have a story there.

No, that was just a fun guy joke. Well, he's the only guy I ran as a falcon steam from 2001, if that makes me feel good. They were talking about his like 40 speed, though. I don't know. To me, it sounded like they were like, man, he's athletic. He's huge.

He ran a 492. I'm looking at it. And it's like this year's fast, like 2019, like Noah Phant ran like a four or five. I was going to ask. Three or six, five. That's what we're talking about. And he's not known for being fast.

That's a different era. Well, yeah, it is. That one's fast and the tight ending. Yeah. And I don't want to spoil the fourth quarter, but when Mike Bick was in there and he just looked, like today's speed versus all of, you know, people's super slow, gigantic.

Wearing those huge shoulder pads and just lumbering around and Mike Bick was just. Oh, it was like a video game, though, because you're right. He is like comparable to today's fast. Yeah. But no one else has caught up to him. This is like when you bought Madden this year and you weren't allowed to play as the Falcons,

because it was cheating. Yeah. He was just couldn't do it. Yeah. But it was fair because it was actually like that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, it was perfectly accurate.

It was just unfair to play. This year, he's the same same idea. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Not as fast, but he's so quick. Yeah. He's shifty. Yeah.

Yeah. I think he's quicker than Vic, but not straight line fast. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. How to get like breakaways because that was Vic is like, you get him on a straight line and he's just like. Yeah.

Doesn't matter what angle. Just watching Vic run. I thought with the ease that he does it is like watching Randy Moss just outrun like Randy Moss throwing up his hand when he's like 10 yards in front of the defensive back, knowing he's going to beat him. But he doesn't look like he's trying. He doesn't even jog and pass the guy.

And the guy's jogging whole effort into it. I mean, it was for watching him too. Because part of the like, you know, dog stuff is size. All right. But just for. Way to cover your bases. Yeah. Well, it was like it was a shame that he was always hurt.

Because I mean, he had great vision too. He'd be too good to run all over the place, but always ended with like him breaking the leg or something. So it would have been fun to kind of see where that would have gone. But I mean, my home is kind of in that territory. Yeah. So I've been saying this about all all those mobile quarterbacks. Like since RG three and that knee injury that he had,

like every it seems like they light the league on fire until that happens. And the last game they're managing him. They're also kind of like running decoys everywhere. So I mean, it might not work the second year, but. Still feel like I mean, every game that you watch, if you if you look at a use, there's at least one hit a game. I'm glad my quarterbacks are taking that hit. He's taking.

He's taking. Somebody just ditched it. And I'm sorry to get that hit though. Just sitting in the park. You know, it's not the same. I don't think though. Mike Big took some hits in this game. Yeah.

I mean, I guess we'll touch on that. Actually, all of the Falcons. Yeah. So let's get them. What can we do on the roster? Bob McClure. The same guy from the Simpsons. Can't be.

You may remember me from Switch Films. What's that guy like Hank Azaria or something like that? No, that's the guy. The actor that does the voice. Is it like Randy McClure? It's something McClure. Troy McClure. Yes.

There is the guy. That's what you're asking. I thought you thought that was his real name and he went from the Falcons to the Simpsons. Who am I, though? That's a hot take, I think. I'm not sure. Because somebody Google that.

What's older? The Simpsons or Tom Brady's Dynasty? The Simpsons have been around for like 40 years. Yeah, I'm in season 30. Jay Feely, guys. The old Dolphins kicker. I didn't have him on the list. I had kicker Jay Feely.

Three players. Something. Sure. I did no reason. Was any event training Eagles? Oh, maybe, yes. One of the things. I'm not going to lie.

I didn't know research on Jay Feely. Well, okay. Some more. Ended up being an actor slash comedian after. Dude? Oh, yeah. Fantastic. Oh, it's Jay Moore.

All right. Before we get to the game, though, I want to talk about the week leading up to this. Because I think this was when the Terry Glenn shit came to a head. Because literally every every Boston Globes sports section this week leading up to the game was all about basic Terry Glenn. He was fine for not practicing

on the day after the previous week's game. Well, it was kind of LeBron last year in the finals. Maybe maybe the year before. But when he's like he loses the game and he comes to the thing with a cast on his wrist and this video of him in the locker room before the game. It's like, dude, for real. Yeah, it feels that way.

But there's actually an article on the Wednesday about Sean Jefferson talking about Terry Glenn. He was obviously they overlapped. And Sean was saying he loves Terry Glenn like a brother and he tried to mentor him when they played together. So he said, Jefferson wanted to show his support, he said. And that meant telling Glenn, get your butt to camp. There are guys depending on you.

Screw what the media or what Bill Belichick think. Get back out there for your teammates. That's fair. It is. He said it's not a money thing. It's not a Belichick. It's how Belichick handled things. That is true.

So I don't know what went. He's a little bit of a miser. He is. Yeah. I mean, he probably suck to play for, right? And if you don't, this is 2001. So if you don't have the cloud of won all these championships, and you're a player, one shit, like,

you got fired and you like dodged it. What makes you think you can do that? Like you didn't have the respect at this point. You know. Well, and I, by the time this year, this it might not be a big deal. But it's when the guy, he's now getting like celebrity,

you know what I'm saying? He's coming away from social media. Take a break, man. Clear your ear. But he isn't. Hopefully it doesn't end the tarry ground. He is now, I mean, no more white women in 2020. He's making all the right decisions.

I'm doing the same. No more white women 2020. Thank you. No, I don't mind. Did she know about this? I got ahead of this race. Oh, did Terry Glenn ever play another snap after this? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. He played the cat. Played with the cowboys a bunch of years. And then with blood. So blood. So I had parcels. All right. It's a Terry.

Glad being a little bitch. We'll begin. This is healthy again. I think the only reason I put that in there is because just to mention the fact that you wore a t-shirt that said silent but violent. Yeah, that one. Oh, we're going to make that.

Oh, we're going to sell those fuckers on this. On Patres Dynasty website. Oh, hell yeah. Well, we should make it. I mean, silent but violent back in 2001 for me was talking about fonts. Yeah, definitely. No.

Oh, what? Because you were like 15 years old. Yeah. Well, silent but deadly. I was old in that. But yeah, thanks for being generous. Very charitable. Very Christmassy of you.

Especially as a hashtag these days. Silent but violent. Why not? That's some assassin shit. Where's the silent coming from? Because he doesn't talk much. Even though he doesn't for a living. Now, hell.

Yeah, ironically, now he's doing post-game. Yeah, right? Yeah, he's decent. Steve Smith is allergic. Man, he is like, he's off the cuff, man. Like, he doesn't care. He said they were talking about, I don't know, someone not throwing open receivers.

And he's like, you've got to throw the ball when he's butt hole naked. Oh, I saw that. It didn't even make sense. I think he says, oh, thank you. Does it even make sense, butt hole naked? No, butt naked, folks. I don't understand what he meant.

I just like that he said it. Yeah. No, I get it. I get it. You're so naked that you can bend over and spread your cheeks so people can see your butthole. Well, why did he say that? Because you've got to be that open.

You've got to throw him the ball when he's so naked that he can bend over and spread his butt cheeks and he can see his brown eye. Come on. So think about this. No, here you go. Think about this. How away from other people do you have to be

to be that comfortable, to be naked enough to bend over and spread your cheeks? You can do that in a crowd. No problem. Right. In the middle of the stage. You could. You fucking kiddie toucher.

But I don't know if I could. Hey, man, that's what he meant. Can we call him up? I think Michael Jackson is that, right? I'm really used to kiss buttholes. No, he was. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Sorry, the man's name.

Yeah, I don't think it was like touching buttholes. Yes, it was. Dude. Kissing it. Isn't this documentary? He's still on there. Is this another hot take, Mike? I don't know.

Did you read an article that said Michael Jackson didn't do it? I think I did. I take it forward and I look. I just know. I don't think he's... No, he wasn't. There was two separate children that had the same story of him. He would pull their butt cheeks apart and kiss them on the butt.

All right, in the documentary. I'm going on record. You cannot call me the kid dealer when both of these guys, Greg, defended Jerry Sandusky and Mike's over here loving Michael Jackson. I think. And I don't think he was kissing buttholes. Bill Cosby is guilty. Yeah, he's a piece of shit.

But yeah, Michael Jackson. I'm not a big fan of that, man. And I think he did it. I just don't think he was kissing buttholes. But maybe it was. I didn't watch the documentary. I could be... This is what we need to stack up.

Turn here. Stack high. Google Michael Jackson butthole kissing. Just make sure you're in incognito mode. 100% not Google, not on our computer. Incognito VPNs. Yeah, that's rough. Regardless.

Michael Jackson. Piece of shit. Yes, yes. Okay, good. I can't. I can't. Because after the fire, we'll try. He's trying to have his image.

Trying to segue here, you motherfuckers. Speaking of buttholes. Okay. Dan Neal, the offensive lineman for the Denver Broncos. The week before. Who broke Brian Cox's leg. He's a butthole. But did you hear what?

Good segue, Andy. Pretty good segue. You like that? Yeah, I like it. Yeah, but he was fined for his illegal block on Brian Cox that these commentators in this game actually... The game, our feed started a little late, so you didn't actually get to catch the first few drives.

So I don't know who they were. I just thought they were fucking terrible. Their commentators were awful. Oh, I liked them. I liked the commentators. They were... Well, they were defending the chop block. That would maybe one.

But they're also calling out Terry Glenn for being a bigotty, bigotty bitch. They're like... They're like... I don't care, dude. Terry Glenn, they told me all the... Sean Jefferson lines. Say, get the fuck out.

They're your teammates. Yeah, but they were defending the chop block, which is like the most illegal thing doing offensive linemen possibly do. Think about this. Andy, think about this. If one of the Patriots players did it, you would defend them.

Not if it was a chop block. No. Andy, you'd be like, dude, it wasn't there. You just put it over. You pushed me, bitch. Right? That's not what the chop block was. I'm just saying, Andy, you spinzone everything.

You do. Positive. Yeah. I'll spinzone a lot of things. Well, I'm sorry I'm a fan. Go fuck me, right? Hey, there's no positivity at all. Dude, do you know what fan is...

Do you know what fan is short for? Fucking fanatic. I'm sorry that I'm fanatically, fanatically inclined. They also had a good point where Troy Brown should have led a punt bounce in the end zone and fair caught it on the three yard line. And they're like, why are you fair catching that? And I was like, they're right.

They were right. I agree. No, that was after the chop blocks. Everything they said was wrong to me. Yeah, well, I will not agree with that. Ryan Cox basically was like, I'm going to murder that guy next time I see him and destroy his family or whatever he said.

But then he came out and apologized. So that growth, my friend. So, well, no, I have apologizes and quotes because he said, I need to apologize because in my frustration, I told him I was going to blow out his knee. I don't want to see anybody injured in that capacity. They have children and other people

they're taking care of. Dude, they compared Terry Glenn to a 12 year old. But... And said he was worse than Ryan Lee. Come on. That's awesome. Brian Cox probably deserved it. I'm trying to get to the...

I'm trying to get the mile out here because I want to... Yeah, wasn't Brian Cox a dirty player? Yeah. He wasn't not dirty. Not if that is from Manowski, but like similar. He was very fiery. I mean, he was good for us, but... He hated him when he was on the Jets, for sure.

Was Rodney Harrison dirty? Yes. Okay, then. Then yes, Brian Cox. He was as dirty as Rodney Harrison, I think. But the comment that he was apologizing for, which we didn't actually touch on last week because YouTube is shitting on me, was...

Wait, were we? Oh, 100%. Yeah, some fine points. We needed a little poor episode and that's just what happened. Every poor episode. At my expense, I love it. But yeah, so we did actually touch on Brian Cox's comments after the game was,

to be honest, I don't care if it takes the rest of my career. And if I ever play that guy again, he's going to have a blown out knee and I don't care who knows it because he just does that sort of expletive all the time. Cox said his voice a little growl. He cuts me like that and then has the expletive audacity to ask me if I'm right. If I ask me if I'm all right, no, I'm not expletive, all right.

Fuck him all right. Fuck him all right. Fuck him all right. I'm not going to put words in his mouth. I like that. That's what the Boston Globe reported. He's still dirty, but I like that. I like that statement.

Yeah, so he kind of walked it back, but not really. Then we lost him for the year, right? That was it. I had a broken leg. I don't remember. I don't remember him playing again. You know who I don't remember playing this year? Who I keep seeing all the time is Matt Stevens of Safety.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't remember him at all. Well, I do because he was white. Like no white guys are the defense. And then all of a sudden, we're eight weeks in and he keeps popping up. But I'm like, I was like, we're eight weeks in. I was like, I don't remember this guy at all.

Yeah, I don't remember him at all either. He was like one of our best safes for a while. Because I don't remember him at all. I haven't seen him make. Is he like Super Bowl MVP? Yes, Mike. Yes, he was. There, though.

Don't worry. Is he the Hall of Fame? Mike is intentionally disrailing our conversations. Is he the Hall of Fame? I mean, we have done two minutes on Matt Stevens. No, he's the guy that did that last week. Remember like he see her way down?

Yeah. Don't knock on the guy. Oh, no, he hasn't been good. So let me surprise you. He's just bad. Yes. And my guess is he's not hurt. He's got Lee Johnson to be my guess.

Well, he's a third safety. So he comes on and was like sub packages. Yeah, I think so. Who's your second safety? He was a starter. I remember watching the first. Who's your second safety? It says lawyer Maloy and Tabaki John.

There was the beginning of the year. And the week one, he was a starter. So he was your nickel safety? Nickel safety? How does that work? He was the he was well when they when they think he was starting earlier. But I think he was.

This is where he starts getting phased out. Yeah. He's just listed as defensive. So maybe play a little bit of well. That's generous, but OK. You probably talk about the game, huh? I was trying to be guys like turned on me over there. Hi, talk to me.

What jumped out of you about this game? First, you know, I will say that it was a poor start for the Falcons. That's stuck out of me. I have here that the first three Falcon drives netted, I think it was negative seven yards. Yeah, I had negative six in the ballpark. Yeah. So I was pretty crazy.

And like the defense was like balls out like pads the game. Oh, God, I don't think we've necessarily seen that before. The commentators were touching on it, too, how they had instead of sitting back in like zone coverage and stuff like that, they were actually playing a lot more men, blitzing a lot more from spots that the Falcons weren't expecting it. The commentators actually showed the rolling from like a cover two to a cover one late. We kind of see a lot more recently now and with this 2019 defense where they they're hiding something or even last year's Super Bowl, they had kind of almost two calls where you see

the one shift late to that second look. So they do a lot of like cover two to cover one on run plays. So they had that extra guy in the box and the Falcons just had no fun. It's up to do when the Falcons are pumping in crowd noise too, you know. Oh, right. That's true. But what a tactic. I mean, I wish the Pats would have thought of that.

Maybe they did. But Chris Chandler. If only they played in the zone in a dome. Chris Chandler at the end of the game, too, was like saying that they were flipping between three, four and four, three, which I think that was the start of that too, where he was basically like, who does this and they know that all year. Yeah. So it's interesting.

And I point to like bring all that up midseason when you're like sort of, hey, we can do this. You got a game plan for it. Yeah, it felt like it was. I mean, nowadays it seems more pronounced, but those first four, six weeks of the season are almost like an extended preseason for the Patriots where they're still kind of getting everybody on the same page. And then once you start getting in the middle of the season, they actually start doing some

more interesting things like that because everybody's on the same page. And there's so much communication that goes on, especially with the offense as well, I think, nowadays with the way Brady runs things. But the defense, especially that they're all kind of, they all have to be on the same page. They'll have to know what the looks are. And I think their, their responsibilities shift a lot, like even during the play. I remember Gilmore, we thought he was a bust when we first started.

We were like, he's missing assignments. I've done my shit on him hard. But even a couple of weeks ago, I remember seeing some replay of, I don't even remember what kind of play it was. I think it was against the Cowboys where the Cowboys sent a guy in motion and they were trying to do something like moving everything to one side. But because of the, like as the motion was happening, the, the two linebackers were, were literally like in real time switching off responsibilities because of the, I'm assuming

because the, the offensive play had shifted to where the, like that needs to happen. But they did it like instantaneously with no conversation happening, no like talking. They just knew that as soon as this guy moved over here, the entire like defensive responsibilities for everybody changed. And so like everything just kind of shifted and Dak Prescott had like, he thought he had something and completely didn't because like every, so I think there's a lot of that sort of stuff happening. And I think once you get to like, you know, week eight against even what was supposed to be an

explosive Falcons team, all of a sudden you see that all start to click a little bit because they've actually had all this time together. But that's a good point though. Like when you bring a guy in like Gilmore, because he had all off season to like get acclimated or whatever, it was a disaster. And obviously he's amazing now. He's getting his thing. But do you think that because the first ball of check here with the pads,

it was like all like rookies and new guys and like, it was kind of this young mess when they brought in all of these like older guys. So how do you think that like, they got it to gel that quickly like by missing where people are just kind of doing. Well, I think it's that's why they brought in the older guys is that you, they know enough about like, because if you have the technique, yeah, they got, they know the technique. Yeah, but Gilmore was like a vet at that time.

Yeah, but if you have those young guys, like they're still learning, you know, the speed of the NFL and like just everything about the new system. Whereas the guys that have been the league, because I mean, you talked about at the beginning of this, this, the season where they, they didn't just bring in vets, they brought in guys who've been in league for like 12, 15 years. So they knew like the ins and outs of like football on Sundays. So it was a matter of just like making sure they're all on the same page,

I think more than anything. So you think Gilmore's problem was just that maybe he hadn't been exposed or something like that. And everybody else on the team did, you know, so we're seamless when like, he wasn't there. Then when he joined, like it just took a long time to kind of get you to that whole because he had played five years. Yeah, I mean, probably just stuck him in man in Buffalo.

And we're like, yeah, cover this guy here. And they're like, oh, you're sick. Yeah, man, it's man, but, but if this guy does this, you have to, you have to recognize this. And now you play as possible to switch off. Five years college. That's fair. That's true.

He's still being disapproval, but yeah. He was just that good, which we're seeing now. Right. And I also think have this, but like the whole Malcolm Butler thing. And we were like, hey, which guy did it? Like, why don't they give him the contract? Why are they bringing this guy in? Well, now you know, I guess that is explained.

100%. Well, I don't know. I mean, can you, I mean, not, not, uh, Gilmore versus Butler, but I got to think that Butler would have been better staying here. Well, I think he's actually played well in Tennessee. He played better. Well, he had, he had a rough first half of the season when he first went there.

But then second half of the season was actually one of the better cornerbacks in the league. All right. I'm in Butler stand. I love, I love, I love every one of you. I still can't wait to find out what happened in the Super Bowl because that's such bullshit. I mean, that's talking about that.

But I mean, we're, that's always going to haunt us. Hey, we'll, we will get there in 20 years of episodes. We'll, we'll eventually get to that. I've got to think of one freaking play from that guy. It would have changed everything, but anyway, I'm still happy for you. I still think of one. Dude, yeah. Oh, we'll get there too.

Jets, man. He had some great years there. 10 picks in one year, I think. So freaking Bella checks. That sucks. Moves on too early before too late though. That's true. Always has.

Well, isn't the most recent, I actually saw it today. The most recent argument for Bella check the the drafter or whatever, whatever you call it, team builder screwing Bella check the coach was letting Chandler walk. Oh, yeah. Cause he's four, three or four sacks away from the, the record this year. Right. Yeah, man.

But like that whole thing worked perfectly though, because it's sort of like needed to happen for the team to build around like what they had. And if you think about it, like the, the Malcolm Butler year that like he didn't play, like we, yeah, they lost that one, but then like we kind of made up for it and more, I think. So it's like, right? Like as Bella check would say, but yeah, and there's doing fine, but he was also on like synthetic weed, like make it running in like cops like stations. That was awesome.

I forgot about that. Yeah. That's a great stuff. Got like right after that. And then always not saying about a tree flowers is tree flowers, isn't that a big year this year? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Otherwise it'd be the same, the same thing.

Same exact thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that synthetic weed does put you in a weird place though. Way weird. Yeah.

The ones I remember about this, this game was that it was a, it was college year. See, I'm saying too much. I've had now. What else happened? Yeah. So this guy's got his finger in my ass. Right. Watching the game.

Having a couple of beers. I'm hanging out with Michael Jackson. Okay. Well, Jerry Sandusky apparently. I don't know those guys. I didn't get to kiss you by all. This is an idiot post date. I remember this game the night before it.

It was the first time that I ever like really drank. And I was hanging out with some, some older people at the time. I think I was, I don't know, young, young in college or whatever. Yeah. And so we had played like some card games or something. I don't know what it was, but it was an asshole. I have no idea. They basically like destroyed me.

They thought it was hilarious. I didn't think it was so funny. And I remember I had like some assistants walking upstairs. I think I threw up all over the bed. It was a great initiation to drink. Oh yeah, it happens. Yeah. But the next day was this game.

And I remember like, like laying down on this like chair, the game was going on in the background and like the announcers making me nauseous. It was like every smell was coming in there. I was throwing up like with every like Patriots play. I mean, I remember that. So I don't know. Fun memories. You guys have memories like that, but this one is very vivid in my mind.

Yeah. We've talked about my memories of Penn State or lack thereof. Oh yeah. We talked about taking off a shirt. I mean, you already like admitted to not being a part of that whole thing. Yeah. Allegedly. Story.

Not about it. You didn't drink till college? I didn't, no. Me neither. Really? Man. Greg, what was your first like beer outside of mom and dad's purview? Probably a sophomore in high school.

Cool. What was it? Really? Yeah. First time I smoked weed and drank was the same night. Whoa. Really? Yes.

For house sitting for someone. And they had a dog and I was so stoned and I couldn't get it to me. And I really got in my head. So you don't like dogs now? Dogs and cop. Fuckin' Mark. Mine was with Andrew and Nick. He like got a...

We were just outing a whole bunch of motherfuckers. I may have to cut this shit. He got a... Well, just believe it out. Just believe it out, man. That's six pack of Coors original put underneath a wheelbarrow in his yard. As you do. That warm Coors banquet.

Do you have any fun first stories? First beer? Oh, fucking no. Yeah. Cause I mean... I remember the first time I blacked out and not realizing that like... Oh. You always thought like, oh, I didn't remember anything last night.

You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, me either. And then I actually blacked out and I remember looking at texts that I had sent and being like... Oh my god. I don't remember that at all. Like, blacking out is real. And as he got older, that didn't get me better. So pretty much I stay away from that nowadays. But uh...

So the next thing you know, you get picked up by Route 1, right? It happens. I've been there. Yeah, don't ever drink. Don't drink? Don't ever drink. PCP. Probably.

Yeah. That's a no now. Make sure you ask before you do. If you're in that situation, just talk to yourself. Or call friends. Yeah, call your mom when you're taken. Call your mom, yeah. One and doubt, call your mom.

Call your mom. Or you have the conversation. Cause it is. And don't play in the NFL while on PCP. Cause that ends poorly. Well, I mean, he did pretty good. Pro Bowl. Speaking of Pro Bowl,

is Tom Brady in this game? How'd you think? He did. Well, I didn't watch it. So I'm not entirely sure. All right. All right. Show them who's here to surprise us.

He did not watch this game. For the record, there are no hands up. At the end of the first half, the commentators are all a brout Brady there. Like he's the... And I was lapping it up. He was precise. I mean...

He was. He was good. The thing that I thought was crazy about this game, and I'm very... I'm bellacheg-like, is like, Brady was actually lights out, but like there were a lot of great plays that were called back for penalties.

Yeah. It was happening all the time. When the commentators, to your point, see, they were on that as well, where they're like, what the hell is going on? They were pissed. A minute is going by.

No penalties. Imagine that. Oh, no. I have the quote. I wrote the quote down. It was, Haven't seen a flag in a minute or two. Yeah.

And that guy was like, they're going to eat umbrellas down there. I love it. For all the flags. And they were like, we won like a fade pass to Kevin Falk in the end zone. Yeah.

That was a nice throw. Right? Yeah. Great throw, but like... Kevin Falk won in the fade, bro. Yeah. It was like great about that play, and that's like another bellacheg thing

that he was toying with. He... So, Brooking was like, kind of like wreaking havoc. Yeah. And so, they sent out,

like Kevin Falk wide, to like isolate him with Brooking and like the outside. And the announcers were like, again, all over Bellacheg, like, oh my god, what's going on right now? Whatever.

And it worked. Yeah. It's a perfection, but it was like, I guess that was in the thing to kind of isolate, you know, lineups, like running backs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was pretty cool. I mean, I don't... I like the isolation, but like a fade route to Kevin Falk seemed weird to me. I don't think I've ever seen that again. I don't know if I've ever seen Tom Brady

throw a fade to a running back. He mustn't throw one to James White. Was it a fade fade though, or was it kind of just like... No, it was a fade, like hard. It was like right over the top of the guy's head. That's a great ball, Bro. I mean, Kevin Falk is five foot eight.

He's... Yeah. I mean, I don't know, but to their credit, he wasn't even looking. So, part of the... what I've enjoyed about this season is that I have no recollection of what I had. So for me, it's a little bit of a treat.

So just... That's true. I had no idea what to expect with this game. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, oh, shit, I don't... A few points. Oh, that's because you were blacked out, Mike. We just went over this.

High on PCP for the whole story about it. Game, guys. One game this week. Yeah, I think going to Steve's point, it looked like... And I think there was something in the paper the day after about how the offensive game plan was, because the corners were so good for the Falcons that they were basically just going to give them that

and just throw to backs and tight ends the whole game. And I think that was part... Like the Kevin Falk touchdown was part of it. Yeah, but you know, it's funny is that in commentators again, we're pointing it out, Brady was picking on a rabid can in the whole game. He was actually picking on a rabid can. He was.

Insane. Did you see at the end of the game, Brady waited for him to kind of just congratulate him? Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I didn't see that. Kind of tell him, obviously, good job or whatever, even though it wasn't.

That's what I was telling them. Yeah, yeah. I gotta say, 2001 Brady Confidence is my favorite thing about this season so far. He was abnormally confident. There was two plays back-to-back. The first player was... They tried a flea flicker and Brady got sacked, I think.

Yeah, he did, which is... Which I don't think I've ever seen in my life, a sack on a flea flicker. No, maybe a pick or something like that, but not a sack. Or even an incomplete... But yeah, never. I've never seen anybody sacked.

But then the next play comes back and throws like a 30-yard dime to Patton, like the next play. Not even fazed that he got sacked on a trick play. Oh, I mean, he'd do that Troy Brown bomb in the second quarter. He'd just hung in there and just... Yeah, oh my God, yeah. Launched it. That's when the real dick sucked in for Tom Brady from that.

Oh, it did, yeah. That's why I felt the announcers. They were loving Tom Brady. They thought he was the best. Although, during this portion of the game, Vinitieri, though, there was a stat where it said something like he'd never missed at this point in the dome up until that point.

I think it was like 22 for 22. Field goal was 21 for 21. Extra points, something like that. He didn't miss at all. He kept it going. I believe... It was pretty much on Vinitieri as well. I believe you and me were at the game

where he started missing. The first game, he missed a field goal indoors. Oh, really? Yeah. You were hung over again, so maybe... No, I was not. Now you're going over. We're at Ryan's Stories.

They were watched. It was against the Texans. Oh, you weren't at the game. No, got no. Oh, okay. We watched the game together, though. It's possible. We watched the game together.

Are you sure you weren't blackout drunk? I don't remember stories, parties. I don't know. It happens. I would stay up arguing about politics if you would be hammered, if I remember correctly. I was pretending that. Arguing politics just to get on your nerves.

So you want to talk about that brown touchdown? I think we probably should. If we're talking about Tom Brady, like, this is... So there was talk about what to call this play. Michael Smith. And the Boston Globe the next day. Dude, I got the OG right in front of me. What do they end up with?

So the quote is, the immaculate reception is already taken. So rather than violate any unwritten copyright laws, what should Pages fans call yesterday's moment of divine intervention at the Georgia Dome? And here are the options. The Clean Snatch. The Spotless Snatch. My personal fave. Stainless Snare or the Pure Puck.

The Pure Puck? Snatch was like a thing back then, right? Like... Wait, but Snatch was like slaying for something, right? Oh, that's still slaying. Hey, let me see if I can snatch. Right. So he knew that, like, the Spotless Snatch.

The Spotless Snatch, I feel like it fits this podcast. That was a suggestion by... It was a suggestion by a Boston Globe writer. Wow. All right. Let me see your clam. Spotless Snatch, okay. But he threw that into triple coverage.

I should have been a pick. Ten times out of ten. It dogged off of someone's helmet. Thrilled by Brady. Well, dude, the... It was a confident throw by Brady. Okay. The fine line.

And I felt that Troy Brown actually struggled in this game pretty heavily. I didn't think so. I mean, I think he made a few heads-up plays. There were like five or seven teams, I think, for like 99 yards and a touchdown. Something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he did his thing. But on that play, though, what was funny is like...

So Brady almost throws a pick. It bounces into Troy Brown's hands. He runs it in for what? 25, 30 yards and a touchdown. He's a destiny. 50 yards? No, it was like 50 yards. It was a 40 or 50.

Like 45 or 50. Yeah. There you go. Plus some buffer yards in the back there. So he ran it in. The commentators were going nuts. Yeah. I mean, they were pointing out, they're like...

Bledsoe was thinking, why doesn't that ever happen to me? Which I'm like so many interceptions, you know? He never got one of those. But then they close up on him for you. And then they close up on Brady. It's like, look at his reaction. Even he can't believe it. And he's like, Brady, basically like hands on his head.

And he's like, yeah, Bledsoe. And it's like that's not... I'm apologizing with body language. I'm like, oh, poor guy. Bledsoe class act, man. Oh, Bledsoe's face on that. That was all, that was going to be my best, actually. If we didn't talk about it, it was Bledsoe's face.

Because he's like, you got it. Are you? It was amazing. So there was a bad throw into triple coverage. There were three guys there. It was like double coverage and the safety coming over the top. The linebacker underneath the corner on the guy. And it was like, what are you doing?

Oh, I don't think I've ever seen anything like that again. But yeah, poor Bledsoe, man. I think he was a class act. He was pretty much like a mentor throughout the season, right? Yeah. And no commentators talk a lot about that. So I mean, those good commentators. Brady has been open, I think, about not open.

But I mean, people have talked about how he's not the most helpful guy. I think, yeah, from what I've heard, he doesn't like to give up. Snaps in practice and stuff. Yeah. Because he saw what happened when he got the opportunity. He's had first hand experience of what happens if you. Yeah, that's the thing. It probably to be a really good athlete, I bet you got to be kind of a prick.

And maybe Bledsoe lacked that. He's actually like a falling guy. That's a fair point. Yeah, you know, that's fair. I mean, he doesn't have to be like the hugest dick, but enough to like secure his spot. Right. Didn't love Bledsoe. That's true.

Hot take. Brady's a dick. Is there anything else you guys want to talk about in this game? There's a lot, dude. Scott Chandler's face after that third quarter first drive sack because this is face the way he looked. You can tell Steve doesn't recognize the guy because you call him Scott Chandler instead of Christian Chandler.

He did get destroyed. I mean, I even wrote down Scott Chandler. I wrote down like Richard Seymour like got a sack in there, you know. Richard Seymour's sack was a grown ass. Yeah, he just blotted that. Whatever that blocker was, just threw him out of the way. Chris Chandler, he got sack like six times. Yeah.

And then in like three quarters, like he got sack so much he had to leave the game. Dude. Yeah. So he left the game walking sideways. And the visual, if anybody wants to look that up, it is like if there's not anything like exactly wrong with him, but. No, but he's bent over. He can't straighten up.

It's like it's like it's kiddie. It's not good. I don't know what it was. There was no like reports on it or anything. So I don't I don't know what it was. At least not in the Boston papers, but it didn't look good. Like Otis Smith laid up. Absolutely one after another in this game.

I mean, he did. Otis Smith, he came in so fast that the commentator actually yelled out, watch it, it's coming in on the bullet. And to Bucky Jones had a few good ones. My notes are Chandler or Scott Chandler. Look like he was having fun after that first drive sack. And then Otis made sure of it. Like he wanted to go out, especially when people were like,

I think it was the third quarter and people were like yelling to Michael Vick. Yeah, we're chanting for Vick. Yeah. I mean, when Vick came in, that changed the game. Oh, it did. But before that, I had wrote down, because this is amazing, but like Brady was running the two minute drill and time's going off the clock. Commentators getting a little nervous.

He has it under control. I wrote amazing time management because he killed everything. Bullet pass to like Mark Edwards. And then like there's about 15 seconds left on the clock to give the ball. So that's when they were talking about, they were talking about how like the Patriots were like nobody for a long time and then how they were coming up. A couple other teams that were no names were coming up.

They were talking about the parody of the NFL. I thought it was funny because they were right, but it's sort of like wasn't right for like the next 20 years. Exactly. Yeah. I also liked that. My favorite part of the two minute drill at the end of the half was Tom Brady doing the hard count at the beginning of the two minute drill.

Yeah, that was good. Like nobody does it anymore. Yeah. Again, the commentators are all over that. These are great commentators in this game. There were a bite. They did one glaring issue. Feely misses a field goal, right?

Yeah. Like the answer is like the field goal is a wide left. The other announcer is like furious. He's like, the kicker didn't miss wide left. The offense missed wide left. They got 15 more yards. It wouldn't have been a miss. He had a good point though.

Isn't that every chick ever? Yeah. No, they had like a dead and dumb penalty though. They had like a dumb penalty. Like a false start. So I'm like, again, and this point was if you kick a five years closer, it doesn't matter. But he was a little too furious. So I'm like, nah, I think it was a kicker's fault too.

Well, to be fair, he missed from 58 and 50. So it's not like he was missing chip shots. Oh, man. All right. A 45 year offense. I did it with the facts. Before we get to Vic's debut, I think that last pass touchdown where they went up like 24 to 10 or something like that, where like when Vic came in, it was kind of out of hand already.

Yeah, 24-7, yeah. Tuan had a huge driestutter. Like didn't do nothing in the whole second half. And then he had like a fat run. And I think he got a screen pass or something. Because he fumbled early too. He did, yeah. And Mark Edwards did too at some point.

I think that was right before that crazy Troy Brown touchdown. Yeah, that started the drive. No, it was the same drive. So like Tuan got him from like there 20 to like the 50 on two players. But he had like two or three big runs in that drive. And then it was the Troy Brown. He had 88, 117 in the second half. Yeah, and like probably 40 of those were in that one drive on a run and a catch.

And if he doesn't do those, then they don't have that thing. And then it's not 24-7 when Vic comes in. Because Vic changed that game. It is funny though, because against Tuan Smith was like kind of campaigning, I guess. A field goal in the fourth quarter. What was that? By managing a field goal in the fourth quarter. They got into the red zone with Mike Vic back there and then ran it with a running back

three times in a row. So I have, I wrote down the stat that Chris Chandler going into this game. He had more touchdowns and incompletions in the red zone this season. He had four touchdowns and two incompletions. That's great. You say Vic? But he was hard. No, Chandler.

Hey, he's saying that. So if he had finished the game, if he had finished the game, this game would have been. It comes in the fourth quarter. Maybe. It comes in with that fourth quarter. It hits that slant, right? That quick slant that turns into like a six-year game. Where one of the DBS and the Patriots literally like dodged him,

dodged the guy instead of tapping him. Oh yeah. It was William Molloy, I think. Yeah, it was. He just dove out of the way. What was that? He's come across some like the boom tower hit and just like. And I think he blocked one of the pass guys.

It's like, oh, that's fine. Turns his body. William Molloy just wants to hit something. Doesn't care what color that jersey is. Anybody. He literally like goes out of his way to not hit anybody. Which I was super frustrating. So they're inside the red zone, inside the 10, I think.

And then they got a Mike Vick back there. And they just call three straight running players the running back. Like, I don't know. But you didn't know what you had really, right? You drafted the guy number one overall. You know he's playing in the playbook. Like, you know what I'm saying? Well, they actually talked about that how.

They did. Like Michael Vick was still learning the playbook. And he was like ways away from being able to run an offense. But they're going to put him in anyway. It's a serious play, though. Like I have here like nasty drive. Mike Vick, 35 yard run. Right.

Okay. Then same drive. 15 yard run. Right. Yeah. Then like Peter's out. Yeah. And then it was like Lauren Malloy sack.

Otis Smith crushes him. They get up. They get a penalty, but they take him down by the face mask. Yeah. He like lunges at his head and rips it off. They're just corner blitzing him to death. They just kept bringing the corner blitz over. That's how they knocked Scott Chandler out of the game.

Yeah. Was bringing those defensive backs. So they got another one just like he just couldn't get there. So he just reached out with his left arm and his face mask. Michael Vick with the grab. But even outside of that, like I was like basically it's written down that it was like a meaningless like Antoine Smith like run the fourth inside like the two minutes. So like they were just killing clock.

Yeah. I'm like, I think it was Wiggins. Like just like blast some dude for a block. Right. So even on offense, they were just destroying people. I think this is like the craziest like blocking, tackling like game I've ever watched. And maybe it's a game plan to beat Lamar Jackson too. Just blow people up.

And like screw the penalties. I mean, I don't disagree with that. Yeah. I don't know. See. I mean, does that even fly in today's NFL though? They get torn to shreds if you just commit it to that. I don't know.

I don't know. But then again, like they can only call so many penalties, right? Right. Was it like a lesion of booms idea? Well, and like the Bengals like this year against them, like the coach was basically like the wide receivers got manhandled. So I, it might be a little bit of like how they used to play the Colt. Yeah.

So I'm like, if you can set the tone early, maybe it works. Just break their will early and they're just not going to try. But yeah, I know. But like I probably, it probably wouldn't be a good idea to kind of lunge on Lamar Jackson. I think it's a different match. I think it's way more physical back then. Yeah.

The players to do that, right? You have players that are like quick, athletic. They're not like guys are going to light you up like Brian Krupp. True. You know, you don't think Dante Hightower wants to light somebody up? He's probably more than normal. But like Jamie Collins is not going and ripping some of his head off. Yeah.

Neither is KB. And those guys like they're not Lawrence guy though. He's, he's a fucking grown ass man. That guy, that guy arm tackles running backs as he's getting blocked. Yeah. Then we will dish out. Then I'll, yeah, throw some, throw some heat. I don't know.

But yeah, you're right. Maybe I don't think that would fly. Yeah. They don't have that like lawyer Molloy sort of safety. He's going to come up and just try to knock somebody's head off. Well, there was a, there was a moment on like Vic's third or fourth drive when he'd been corner bliss to death and they like dropped out. And like he just did the old Sam Darnold saw a ghost and like saw that pass rush

and he like threw it and like immediately ducked. And like there was like a boy yards away from him. He got like he was clearly seen like fracture everywhere. But it was like textbook Catholic every time it was like waste drive into ground. Yeah. I mean that's penalty now actually.

Probably. Yeah, actually. I have a knit on here. Survivor is the only thing older than Brady. They're like, because we usually don't have the commercials in it. Yeah. There were some in this. Yeah.

And I was like survivor Africa and I was like, well, if you're on survivor Africa, that means it can't be the original season. I also have, they're talking about two years in college football as like a short time for Mike Vic. Oh, you only played two years. Oh, yeah, yeah. In college and it's now it's you look at his junior year kind of. Yeah.

And 20 years are going to be like, he only spent two years at the XFL. Well, like Joe Burroughs is going to come out like real quick and everyone sees it come out just immediately in college. I mean, it makes sense. Right. Good money. Yeah. What was I do that kind of like mess that whole thing up?

Was it Maurice Clarke? Maurice Clarke. I have his jersey. Yeah, that whole thing. Yeah. Give him a Maurice Clarke jersey. I have a Maurice Clarke jersey. He got it for like 15 bucks.

I remember that. Yeah. Whatever that plays with the Lawrence. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. It's dope. I also have they're like, oh, we can't play can't pay two starting quarterbacks,

seven million dollars a year. I thought that was seven. Seven? Dude, seven. Yeah. Yeah. You can't pay one starting quarterback. Fourteen million a year.

Didn't Bolden making five? Jared Goff making 30. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Rex Burkhead's probably making five. Oh, yeah. There's so many players. You know, like, oh, they need too much ego or it's like what they all want to start.

It was like, yeah, there's just not enough money to go. Really neat. And like, that's a top end. So like, what are the guys like just getting their heads torn off? Yeah. Yeah. It won't be years, man. It's true, bro.

He let's us sign what like 10 year, a hundred million dollars. He was 10 million a year, right? 10 million. Yeah. But like you would say like maybe some of those years were like void. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm sure it was all back rolling like that.

So you're saying two. So it'd be like 14 for your quarterback. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if it's still Jesus back then. But yeah. I mean, these are 2001 dollars. Yeah, exactly.

I had written that like Antoine Smith had been campaigning for like 20 plus carries a game. Like that was his thing, which it's unfortunate that you need to back that hash to have that many. But I guess it's given the groove. I mean, I think Adrian Peterson was like the same way. But yeah. I mean, back then that was a big thing.

Yeah. And I have that they mentioned that it was the first pass runner that reached a hundred yards since the 99. Yes. That's crazy. Yeah. Who was running back? I wrote it down.

But it was Terry Allen. Yes. I have no idea. Yeah. Terry. I've never even heard that name. Terry Allen. Oh, yeah.

He was. Markey sounds. No. Third cousin. Retarded brother. Yeah. That's not a retard shame. Yeah.

Come on. Terry is listening. How do we use a brother? I know all about it. Terry is listening. Shout out to Terry. No. I mean, yeah.

Wasn't he in the same era as the Marion Butts? I think he's on cameo. I don't remember Marion Butts. He's not abstract. I don't remember Terry Allen. I remember Terry Allen. Briefly. Did Jonas Gray ever get back to?

Nature on means. No. It expired. You get five days and if they don't, you get your money back. What? You got to try again. What are you doing now? I was trying out for the XFL, believe it or not.

I got a list of other guys. All right. All right. Who else we got who can potentially do our intro? Where'd they go? My top list, Marshall Newhouse. Oh, big. Yeah, I'm in on that.

Dominic Easley. Mm. Man, let's go. That's hot, too. I don't know how. That guy is terrible. Yeah. Well, he's just a nobody.

Yeah, unless you're listening. Well, Marshall Newhouse, a big Newhouse guy. Because he's beloved because he was putting a tough spot. He wasn't. He wasn't. He's not good. I don't know if he's bad. I don't know if he's pretty fitting.

For like, he's not hated. It feels right. He's not hated. Like flash. Right. Right. I forgot to go out. Exactly.

Made you like. What about Ross Ventrone? Dude, that guy, I went a little like Jonas Gray. Deep dive, man. And that dude, like, Belichick ruined his life. Really? Yeah, dude. Like, I guess like, you know, that huge game was at 200 yards

before touching the Colts. 201, baby. Oh, 201. Because he does it in his thing. He says it's a 201 club. And so I guess what happened is like, he sent his alarm on his phone. The phone died and he went to practice late or whatever.

So he was in the Belichick doghouse. And then he tweeted, it's kind of like one of the first tweets that was really controversial. I remember this. Yeah. It was like, they turn your back on you so quickly or something like that. And then basically, yeah, I mean,

he was never allowed to play again. Like it said, like, they'd give him a couple of like, you know, carries here or there. He was actually on the Patriots, I think, for the next season as well. They basically just like, they're like, now you're not going to play. And then they shipped him out, I think,

to like the Dolphins or something like that. Yeah. I mean, he was like trying to get into the X, that fell man. He like, you know, you didn't get picked up. I'm like, I feel bad for the guy. That's not Belichick ruining his life. And now he's doing candy for 20 bucks. Like, I just, I got to think, obviously, like,

Belichick probably saw some other things in practice or whatever, but I just got to think, like, if, like, his alarm went off or whatever the case may be, if, like, you want to do this, I don't know, man. No. I've said that to a coach, but I was lying. Oh, really? Yeah.

OK. Well, then I retract. Would you say to a coach, just. Yeah. I took it for face value. I got drunk and I slept through the alarm. I missed the bus to Bucknell. A huge game.

Maybe he was celebrating. I had no idea. I had no idea. Would you, like, miss your car keys or something, Greg? No, I just, you know, the whole team. Yeah, you don't even have cash. You only got jeans. The whole team got together and I wasn't there.

And then shout out to my coach. He didn't realize till halfway to New York. He only figured out when I called him. He's like, oh, you're not on the bus. So you boys haven't been here for this, but when it's been me and Mike, he's had a segment. But I think he wants to introduce here to the rest of you. I mean, basically what I found in doing this

is that I didn't know as much about football as I thought I did. And sometimes the announcer say some terms or some things that I have trouble understanding if it's football or not football. And so I sort of bring to Andy. It's been, because he knows more about football than I do. And so, you know, he can explain to me is it football or not football. So maybe you guys can help with this.

Like last week, I thought that I was kind of like learning about these terms or whatever, because nothing popped up and we kind of discussed it. And I was like, nah, dude, I think I got this, but threw me for a loop again. Should we bring mom in for this one? She'll talk to you. Nope, you know.

Nope. Yeah, let's see what you guys think. All right. And then we'll address this. I mean, so these guys were saying there's a few that I can rattle off here. So Ambrose said, I mean, this is what they were quoting him as, I like things a little tighter.

Ray likes it a little looser. Is that football or not football? Who said that? Ambrose, cornerback. And who's he talking about? Ray. Ray is like probably Ray. His butt.

Oh, yeah. Where he likes it. It's not his boyfriend. But then Ray likes it. Oh, well, what was that? No, go ahead. Go ahead. Finish.

Yeah. All right. So yeah. So he likes it a little tighter and Ray likes it a little looser. And I don't know what that means. Well, I mean, let's ask the Jerry Sandusky expert. I think it has to do with coverage. Would be my guess.

Well, I'll hit you with another similar analogy. Different strokes for different folks. Okay. Okay. Yeah. But is that football or not football? I don't know. You tell me.

I mean, it could be both. But when he's talking, he's probably talking about like, where Ray gets right up on the receiver and like runs with him. Whereas the other guy gives him a little cushion. He likes to get physical. So it's tighter coverage versus looser coverage. But playing off of the line as opposed to on the road. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. So if he gets physical like the man in a little bit. Gotcha. The other guy likes to kind of see where what things are happening. Yeah. Let the other person be dominant and dictate to you off. And on my face.

Sorry. Next one. When you're a hot quarterback, things happen to you. He's talking about Brady. And this is what he was like really on him a little bit. When you're a hot quarterback, things happen to you. So you see it happen to you or happened for you? I see because you had written it as happened for you.

And maybe I just heard it happen to you. I mean, you could be right. I don't know. Maybe it's happened for you. I mean, it changes it, right? Yeah. And that's what I was wondering. Because I'm like, what are they talking about?

You're going to throw a hot quarterback? What does that mean? I think the message is still the same. I mean, I think in that same little soliloquy, they're talking about this. They said if you have like Dan Marino and Dan Bouncer, whoever crap quarterbacks that were on the bench, you're starting the hot hands.

No, sir. No, sir. That was another part. But I know what you're talking about here. But he goes, if Johnny Unitis, John Elway, and all five Backstreet Boys were on the bench, you go with the hot hands. Which again, that could play on that.

I don't know what he's talking about. Hot hand is it like? Like basketball term. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I was talking about the Backstreet Boys. I was talking about the Backstreet Boys. Yeah, I was talking about the Backstreet Boys. One is a little out of it.

But think about the term. 2001 Backstreet Boys, they were hot in the streets. They were hot in the streets. Backstreet Boys, what is happening here? They're hot in the streets. I mean, it must be that he's attractive, right? Because I mean, that's the Backstreet Boys. That's like, I don't get it.

Yeah, but Dan Marino, ugly shit. These are handwritten notes, but he has bolded hot hand underlying explanation. I'm just wondering, I mean, are they talking about football? Or was that what it was? I don't think so. And now, I would say no. We usually, we get to yes, it's football,

but I think in this case, no. I think they're just talking about the Tom Bray is so beautiful that when he's riding the hot hand. I mean, think about though. No, I disagree because Dan Marino's ugly. I saw him in Ace and Truro. He was not, not attractive. It says Johnny Unitedson, John L. Way.

Both studs. Studs. John L. Way, literally. And the Backstreet Boys aren't studs. No, they are too. That's what I'm saying. I don't know what the correlation is. Studs are the boy band music scene at the time.

So, I mean, they're talking about something else, then obviously. Yeah, I think so. I think that might, that might be slightly sexual, which is weird. Though they're ahead of their time because Brady, this is like pre haircut. That's true.

Yeah. With the bowl cut. Yeah. Yeah. That's all right. All right. Not football. But do you think he was hot back then?

That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I think he's aged like a fine wine. Was he, was that what he had for? I mean, obviously he's hot now. Everybody knows that. Right, right, right. Was he hot then?

He had the, he had the butch in which I find attractive. He did, but he was also, didn't he run like a 5-5 or something? Like 40? I thought he was cute. Now he's hot. Yeah. Okay, yeah.

At this age, I can't view him through the 2001 lens without viewing him through the 2019. That's also a good point. Fair. That's a good point. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah.

He suffers from getting better. So, then I have another one doubling back on the soft hands because that one's double underlined right here. It says, he goes, boy, he goes to all the soft hands in order to pull in a ball that goes that fast. What does that mean? Who is it?

Do you know who that was about? I, I, you can call me to the balcony. I'm just trying to figure out football, dude. Bro, welcome to the segment. Well, I just, I don't get it. He has like a transcript of the game. He's control F hot. You guys don't have to tell me it doesn't matter.

We can move on, but like, No. So, so do we know who this is about? I think it sounds like a larger gentleman though. I think it might have been. I, again, you told me to like put context into these things. I'm like, I didn't. As you tell.

That's fine. Yeah. Big soft hands. Right. Boy, and he goes, boy. Oh, boy. Boy. Like it was three hours.

Oh, boy. Oh, oh, three hours. Boy. So, big soft hands. I mean, have you seen the soft hands on this? I think that's the, yeah. Maybe it's like a tight end thing. Yeah.

Cause tight ends aren't really known for that. So if it happens, like with algae carp, we're running a, a four nine. It's one of those things where it's, it's unusual for him to have big soft, like supple hands as opposed to the big gnarly lineman hand. You just told me on that. That makes sense.

So big soft hands. Yeah. The future means. You can catch, you can catch your footballs. I think is what they missed out on. So this one I did right context was about Maurice Smith. He's a big back, not as strong and bruising. He's a little faster hitting the hole.

So he's a, he's a back, not as strong and bruising, which I think I get what that means. And he's a little faster hitting the hole. Football or not football. So he's a twink. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't, jeez.

You caught me off guard there. I don't know about that. I think, uh, when they're talking about hole and, uh, to talk about another one of Mike's keyword, control S. I, I, I want to make the point that I think Maurice Smith is actually Antoine Smith. He just changed jerseys. First of all, I think the same people, same person.

Yeah. Yeah. They run the same way. Yeah. I didn't watch. So I had no idea who Maurice Smith was. He's Antoine Smith. He just changed his name and swapped jerseys at half time.

Yeah. Well, he's like a big breathe right strip. So that would have been annoying to change on and off all the time. And he's remember, I mean, he, he makes football money. I mean, he goes through piles of them. But talking about, I think we've, we've touched on this a bit before was. Right. We've mentioned gaping holes before.

It's similar. I think it's, um, we're talking about hitting a hole. Right. That's how fast a running back gets into the hole like that, that hole that the linemen create. Hand off. Are we talking all the way, all the way into the hole or like how quickly he enters the hole?

Usually how quickly we enters the hole. Okay. Yeah. Between getting the hand off and getting to the offensive linemen. Yes. So you have the hole created in the, in the defensive line by the offensive linemen. Oh, okay. So then that like leads into the next one where it's,

he hits the hole hard and drags the vendors in, which I was trying to be serious to this whole thing. I just cheated and killed it. Now that you quit, that means I get that this is football. So I feel stupid to be cleaning it up. Yeah. So moving on. So dare I ask, what did you think that meant?

How exactly would you drag defenders into other holes? I just, I don't know. That sounds like a Jerry Sandusky thing right there. I don't know much about football guys. And then the, the last remaining two. So, the three set here. Okay.

Keep going. All right. We, we have a lot of excitement down there. And this was about Mike Vick. Not football. Definitely not football. I was wondering, was there talking about rock in Mexico? I couldn't even get through it.

Well, you see the commentators watching it from the press box, which is above the field. So they're talking down there and all the fans and, you know, we have a lot of excitement down there. When he came into the game, gotcha, gotcha. Wait, you sure it wasn't Michael Vick just had an erection? Oh boy. No, they were saying we had an erection about him.

That's not what I was thinking, but that's one of the lines of what it could be. And I didn't. Did you not see Michael Vick's erection? No. Oh, it was blatantly obvious. Anaconda. Dude, when he stiff-armed the guy with his, you know, arms. Geez.

There was stiff. See, I'm glad I brought this to you guys because it's a lot better. So am I. As he says, which this threw me off, off-guard, but like then I looked into some other stuff. So eight different receivers Brady has hooked up with today. And I was like, oh, shit, that's a lot. What does he mean by that?

And then I figured like, okay, how many receptions or whatever. What do you consider hooked up? Right, right. But then I was like, wait a minute. Like at first I was like thinking, whoa, if you hooked up with like not many people, like was he dating anybody at the time or whatever? I don't know.

And so, I mean, Giselle wasn't in the picture yet. I was like, it was like his first year. So what was he doing? Mike, were you jealous? I mean, how could you not? How did you make you feel? How did you feel? I just come to terms with the fact that Brady doesn't give a crap about me.

You didn't touch him. Maybe some of the letters. They went unanswered, did they? All those letters he wrote them, they went unanswered? If he did write a few, but it kind of didn't seem like his handwriting. I don't know. Four of a cease and desist. Yeah.

Well, that one was a tight one. Fun fact, Brady was dating in 2001. Layla Roberts, 1997 playmate of the year. Yeah, it says after the Super Bowl though. So I don't know when that relationship started. Oh, maybe not Layla Roberts. Yeah, Layla Roberts, 1997 playmate of the year. Does that land a game?

I doubt it though. Well, yeah, I don't know about like at the game though. I know this is around the time he's hanging out with Trump and doing that like whole stuff. Was it at that point? Yeah, I think so. So then in 2002, so that relationship ended, he started dating Tower Reed, which I think we all know about.

But at that point, she had done American Pie. She did Glebowski. Yeah, she's a big name. Yeah. So then he broke up with her and I was wondering, I just watched Sharknado Six and she's in a just big player. I'm just wondering if he regrets that

and if he likes the movies. So if we have him on, that'll be the first question we have. Is he on Cameo? Sharknado Six. Do you want me to ask you that? That's a great question. So Tom, now that we finally got you on this podcast, after 10 years, we need to ask you the question

that everybody wants an answer to. Have you seen Sharknado Six and what did you think of it? And it's probably Sharknado Seven by this point, too. There's rumors that has not happened yet. By the time we get there, it'll be Sharknado 12. Tower Reed's like, I mean, spoiler alert, but you guys should have watched it by now. I mean, Reed is like a cyborg by the Six one.

So it just, yeah. Have you actually watched it? It's fantastic. It's nicely done. I've seen one in two. Have you? Yeah. That's not the first one.

Amazing. It's something. So we're just plugging other podcasts, other movies. Sharknado, yeah. Look, we're showing that we're well-rounded people, right? But then, so, well-documented, split 2004 to 2006, Bridget Moynihan, Coyote Ugly, all that other stuff. Had a kid with her at, was a little, whatever.

Didn't she name him, his initial or Jeth? Was it? No. No, I thought it was Tom Brady. No. Yeah, their kid is like, No. Jason Edward Thomas.

Get out of here. There's something Moynihan. Are you serious? What a dig. I didn't know this is a hot takeover. I thought it was like a Tom Brady named after his first kid for himself. Who gets naming rights?

Probably Bridget, I think. Yeah, I don't know. All right, keep going. Well, so can I add something to that? I'm curious what Andy was going to find. Layla? Yeah, man. Yeah, I just looked her up for research.

John Edward Thomas Moynihan. Jet. Wow. That's a dig if I've ever heard one. Jet him. During that time when he dated her, also linked to Vin Diesel. Get out of here.

Who was Tom Brady? Layla. Tom Brady. I thought you were talking about Tom Brady. What are you talking about? This is like talking. This is some New York property. This has got stricter than the spectrum, though.

Vin Diesel, Tom Brady. And then for a brief stint before Giselle, he apparently allegedly dated a Patriots cheerleader who ended up, I don't know if she's married to him, but I think she's still with him. Lonnie Paxton. Oh, really?

She's tying it back to Yobo. My boy, Lonnie. So, if we're going to tie this all or not, Kevin Euclis is married to Tom Brady's sister. He is, yeah. So I don't know if that's informative to anybody out there or anybody cares,

but here we are. All right. And Quincin, never mind. No, go ahead. Nope. We can edit it. We can edit it. We're going to have to cut it out anyway

at this point. Yeah. No, I can't do it. I'm just censoring himself. I'll take the mic. Lay it in there. Yeah. Just say it's in the room.

I'll cut it out. And there it is. What's it saying? It's not gay if it's Tom Brady? Sister, mother, brother, whatever. I mean, we do have to have that guy on the podcast that I know that did have that relationship with somebody who did spend some time with Tom Brady.

Are you on the same website? I cannot confirm her deny. Well, actually, nice. All right, so let's do best and worse. Stephen Best, Richard Seymour's first career sack. Oh, he body that fucking. And first of many. Yeah.

First round pick took him week eight to get his first sack. And it was a it was a brutal one. And he's going to have like how many more at the pages? A hundred more. I don't know if that may be. Yes, I love your style. And for the Raiders. And the word should seem more six, six, three hundred and five pounds.

Oh, yeah. But the the true, like, you know, where the edge defender was going at that point, the new defensive end, which they got a shit ton of crap for drafting him. Yeah, because he was too tall to be a defensive end, but too big to be a outside linebacker. He's going to be a Hall of Famer. He's on the cusp.

Probably. Eventually. Yeah. I hope so. Pajit's Hall of Famer, for sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. If he's not all right.

Definitely. All right, let's do worse. The lawyer, Maloy, he just let me get out of the way. Yeah, that's perfect. That slant broke out. I was just like, what do you do when I hear you? The lawyer, Maloy just doesn't body him. And like, I think what his thought was like,

I don't want to hit my own player, too. But like, it's where more I don't have the thoughts ever occurred to him. He almost hurt his own player anyway. Yeah. I had a chance to tackle it 20 yards early, and you just literally dodged the whole play. All right, Mr. Mello, best and worst.

I got to go best. I got to go twofold here. It's a hustle. It's a hustle double. All right. There was a play that was going to go for a touchdown. That tie lock cuts across the field. He runs like 40 yards.

I think it was. Yeah. Yeah. And saved that touchdown on that play. So that was pretty, pretty great. And then Vinitario also did the same. So they kind of called back to an earlier episode where we were talking about his athleticism.

Yeah. He pretty much looked it down the field and like knocked the guy out of bounds to save another touchdown. So kind of two, two good hustle plays, I thought. I missed that episode. Was that the one where you guys pulled up that hit and running down the Cowboys or Turner?

You mean Herschel Walker, you mean? Yes. Remember I was hating on you. I was like, does it know what's true? Yeah. Yeah. It's true. I was wrong.

Well, it fucking is an incredible player. Not a kicker. Incredible. You have not seen this just YouTube. Ben and Terry Herschel Walker. They'll come up. It's amazing. It's the best kicker player.

I've never seen anything like that. And I think I'm going to bypass the worst moment because I didn't really have one. I was, you know, for the holiday season, I think like I'll be nice, but an honorable mention, which is not really the worst play, but I thought it was worth noting is that the first time I've seen,

we pulled Bledsoe, which I saw in your notes that you kind of mentioned this sort of play as well in the same fashion is, you know, he basically like Brady chucks the ball, like no look over his head to try to complete a pass as he's fallen down. And it ends up being almost a reception. It was an incompletion, which I know Bledsoe

would have been a pick six for sure. Oh, easy. Yeah. Yeah. It was the first time I'd seen him do anything remotely close to that guy, which I mean, he was being mentored by him a lot at that point.

So he picks up some bad habits. Yeah. Just chuck it over your head and over the best. Yeah. That was rough. All right, Greg. That's the worst. All right.

So my worst, I'm going to kind of go back to that Boston Globe thing we were talking about earlier, the spotless snatch. I mean, Michael Smith, all four of these are bad. Clean catch, spotless snatch, stainless snare, pure pluck. I mean, that's he's a writer. Got to do better than that.

You have to do better than that. It's probably an English major. Nair was one of them. Stainless sets worse than spotless. For porn title, yes. Yeah, we need you, mom. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, we're finishing up. My worst of the week is my mom kicking me out of the gosh darn room. We'll be five minutes. Yeah, we'll be finished already if we weren't for all these interruptions. You don't have to. We'll get you later.

We'll do a real one. We're already on hour three. All right. So my my best. So I have all I have the newspaper clippings from that day. That same day, Arizona rallies in ninth inning to dethrone Yankees.

Kurt Schilling versus Roger Clemens in a game seven World Series. Diamond X one. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Louis Gonzalez saying yes. That's a great one. Same exact.

Wow. World Series game seven. Same day. Wow. Kurt Schilling versus Roger Clemens. Fuck in the Yankees. Love it. Red Sox legends.

Kurt Schilling against Red Sox. Denying Yankees their fourth World Series in a row. Wow. Dark Years. So the start of one dynasty was the finish of another. I like that writer over here. All right. Yeah.

Take notes, Michael Smith. Wait, wait. You you clip that a news news article and put that in your book about the Patriots. And you're stuck. Yeah. I think I must have been hyped on this the same day. So I was like, I got to throw this in here.

Yeah, because I hated the Yankees too. I mean, how many Yankees sucks? Chance worth of the Patriots first parade. Like all of them. All right. My best and worst. My best, I think, I have a few here. I think I'll go with Brady with his first ever

third and short QB sneak where they emptied the backfield and had him do the quick QB sneak. First time we ever saw it. First of many that he would always convert. Change the game. Now has a thousand yards rushing. One yard at a time. Twenty fucking years later,

a thousand-yard rush here and it started there. What is his average yard per rush? Because he has all the yield downs for negatives. His longest rush is like 18, 19 years. Like his average has got to be like one and a half. It's not a lot. Oh, also honorable mention was Terrell Buckley. A bit wide receiver.

Yes. And getting a pass to him on the streak play early. Little weed off and see it go down with Gilmore. But the patient's always like a wide receiver playing defensive back when you have to do that in the Bill's game. No, we do a pass at J.C. Jackson. Right. I don't think so.

I don't think so. I miss watching different games. Maybe I was just drunk. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if Gilmore does do something like that in the playoffs. I would love to see Gilmore. On the scout team as wide receiver and like.

Oh, yeah, they did say that because you've been playing a lot in. I'm pretty sure they threw him a ball. Where you really spread it out. I don't think so. I'll double check. So my worst. And this was probably my favorite worst of the. Worst.

This season so far. Yeah. The Jermaine Wiggins. He got a tripping call. I think it was like in the second quarter somewhere. And usually when you see tripping calls, they usually like kind of borderline. Like a guy gets beaten kind of sticks his leg out. Jermaine Wiggins.

Flopped on the ground. And just like the guy should be like flilled his legs almost look like a dead fish like flopping and like tried to just kick the guy in the junk and missed. And got called for that on that play. And the next play had a false start like immediately afterwards. And you didn't see him for the rest of the week. The commentators all bought the flags coming out. Yeah.

But that was like one of the few legitimate. It was so bad. The Falcons had like a first and 25. It was just brutal. Oh, yeah. Well, it was brutal. Yeah. Some of these sequences were real bad.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The page picked up 20 yards on a third and 30. Does that appeal go at one point? So you kids don't watch these games in the entirety. They're actually not that fun. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Think about highlights. Actually, if you go to Paris. I know. Lucky for us that there are no highlights of each game. I don't think for the most part of the majority of them. So you need to listen to the website as a mom. No, they're either on the website.

Page is dying. So info where you play. Well, a big place. All the all the highlights. All the highlights. We need to listen to the fight. Yeah. Oh, but they do.

You got to get the context because just that's true. Troy Brown's miracle catch out of nowhere. I mean, oh, you mean the spotless snack? All right. The stain was snatched. That's fair. All right. Let them watch it.

The cleanest clam. All right. I think we beat this horse dead enough. Well, I got I got one more. I got one more surprise. All right. You already kind of blew it for me. Oh, good.

I got Christmas comes early. Oh, what is that? What is happening here? What is this? Oh, no. Oh, no. What are you doing? Instead of just one t-shirt, we all got a t-shirt.

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Just one ball of it. Brandy, you're the best. Wow. Wow. That is fantastic. So I had a bit of issues with licensing.

I had originally put one picture of like one of those cool ones that you had on the website that like you know what I'm saying? We had that picture. Oh, yeah. And they were like, no, I can't use that. Really? I found another one from Patriots Twitter. She's like, you can't use NFL logos or anything.

And I was like, she's like, can't use that. Who is this? It was like the people at the t-shirt. She was great. Shout out, Adriana. She was a great customer sales person. For those who can't see, it is Bill Belichick. But no, no, he's the Pope.

You take the Pope's head off and slice in Belichick. And he's like holding Rosaries. It's fitting. It's fitting. Yeah. Wow. Well, thank you. And he's designed Patriots Dinosaur logo on the front.

We may have to sell both of these on the website at some point. Wow. Thank you, man. Merry Christmas, guys. I love you. Merry Christmas, boys. And Merry Christmas to all our listeners. And by that, I mean our mom, Mama Brown,

who is standing outside watching us currently. Three of the cameras will be flying in July sometime. Oh, yeah. So it'll be Christmas in July. And she will get to re-listen to all of this as she watched it happen. What is next week? Ho-ho.

Don't ruin anything for me. That's the opponent. Is this Saints' Game? Or the Rams when they lose to the Rams? No. Well, we had to ruin it, Greg. Check my, uh... Oh, have her.

Yeah, you can check your scrapbook. Oh, at home with the bills, right? Correct. The one in six bills we'll visit. Foxborough Stadium. You want a sneak peek? No. We don't want a sneak peek.

Don't ruin it. Yeah, no. I don't know. It's going fresh. I was trying to give you one of these cryptic headlines, but they're all pretty obvious. Oh, how about this? This is a good teaser.

Many are taking hits for Johnson Decision. By Ron Borges. Lee Johnson? Oh, I thought that's really accurate. Oh, we didn't even talk about the punters. Ah, next time. All right, see you guys later. I had a note.

One last note to end this on a punterm note. Well, I haven't punterm note, well... This is how it starts. Chris Moore. Chris Moore, the punter of the... I went to Falcons, was averaging less than 30 yards of punt, and I wrote, where's Lee Johnson when you need him? I know.

I actually wrote the fucking real punter. It's too big. Too big only, Jonathan. I feel like punters are punting the ball further now. Oh, they are. They're like, oh, he's averaging like 40 yards of punt, and I was like, well, that sucks. Dude, that punter was...

And they were like... What was your name? Jay Moore. Christmas Jay Moore. Oh, man, they have a comedian. Tom McClure. So bad. That comedian, Jay Moore, is so bad at punting.

Scott Chandler. Scott Chandler. All right, Merry Christmas, guys. Love you. Merry Christmas to all of you and your family, and your loved ones. We'll see you in 2020. You betcha.

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