Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2002 Week 10: Patriots at Bears

Episode Date: August 25, 2020

Watchability score: 4/6 LombardisThe Brown brothers discuss the best game you don't remember: a massive 4th quarter comeback on the road against the Bears. Know how we know it's important? Greg actually watched the game!Coach of the Year talkAndy's angry about Dick JauronGreg does another unnecessary food reviewThe boys learn about actual historySteve discovers his author doppelgänger.Let us know what you think of us.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Pages of the Dynasty podcast.

It is Thursday, July 23rd, 2020. But today we're going to be taking you back to Sunday, November 10th, 2002. We're saying the date of the recording now? Yeah, I just throw it in there just to see. All right. How'd it feel? When they unearth the records of mankind, and this podcast is held up as the Sterling example of humanity, then it'll be good to have a date of when I was recording it on

there. Yeah. That's what'll happen, I'm sure. Yeah. Well, because they're going to know about Tom Brady, you know, everyone's going to know about him. That's true. And the aliens come.

And then this will be just a record of him. Yeah, especially since I'm actually putting these onto cassette tapes every time we record an episode. So they're safer. Posterity. And I'm bearing it in the backyard, but just don't tell anybody. They're your time capsule. Everybody.

We didn't tell anybody. Nobody's listening to this. Remember? That's true. No one does listen to this. You should bury him next to your porny mags. That was my VHS tapes. Oh, yeah.

Can I go on record and say that on July 23rd, I was in a real rotten mood? Because I'm in a bad mood. I mean, why is that? Why is it a bad mood? I don't know. Maybe I need a vacation. Maybe you guys are annoying. No, that can't be it.

What else? Maybe I hate my wife. I don't know. I just I'm just in a bad mood today. I understand why your wife gets introduced by mom as poor Kelly. Yeah, poor Kelly. More like poor Greg. Yeah, that's not a nickname that's stuck for some reason.

Shut up, Andy. I'm just stating facts. All right, maybe you should fix your microphone. I think I sound pretty good. It's going to be an interesting podcast. Yeah. All right, speaking of assholes, the coach of the Chicago Bears, Dick Geron. Good.

I see an asshole. He should have said Dick. He should have said Dick. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't want to. Come on, Andy. Even I admit that the speaking of assholes. Here's a guy named Dick.

You know, he really missed out. Listen, if you want to do it, is he actually an asshole or is that just like your transition? Do you like hate Dick Geron? Yes, because he in 2001, one coach of the year over Bill Belichick. For the Bears, it feels highly disrespectful just to the sport of football. Well, hasn't Belichick only won it like twice? I don't even know he's one of that many times.

But yeah, probably stat check. That check. How many times have the Belichick one coach of the year on it? I feel like when he retires, they're just going to rename that after him, right? Like all the greats get an award name after him. Now that feels like it fits three, three times. Three, which let's see if we can guess what you have seven. No, seven, seven, one.

I honestly can't think of another like specific year. 2011, maybe close 2003, 2004, one of those seasons. I mean, those are two guesses, but yes, 2003. Well, 2012, wrong way. 2010, they went 14 and two. Really? 2003, they went 14 and two. And 2007, I'm not going to bring that up. Yeah, I don't think so.

Belichick has been one coach of the year since 2010. That's correct. Interesting. It's crazy. What year was your suspension? You know who has one one in that time, though? Should be you guys. Let's hear it. You're going to Jason Garrett.

Oh, the fuck is Jason Garrett want to coach the year? Yeah, what? He was the worst coach in the NFL right now. He's still a coach. Yeah, I feel like every season it's like, oh, yeah, they're going to fire him. He's been on the hot seat for five years at least. He's like, what's his name has a crush on him? Like he did with Romo, where you can do no wrong.

Jerry Jones. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do Ron Rivera's one it twice. I think he's a good coach. Bruce Arians won it twice. I think he's a good coach. Yeah. Harbaugh. The last 10 years?

Yeah. With Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh with the Niners. Does John want it? He has not. Sean McVeigh, Matt Nagy. That's kind of a that one might not age well. We'll see.

He already hasn't. Oh, John Harbaugh did win it last year. Sorry. Oh, OK. That makes sense, though. Yeah, that one was somewhat deserved. That was a good one. Who won it in the 2016?

2016. Yeah, that was Jason Garrett. I think that was what's his name's rookie year. Dak Prescott. Yeah, they went 13 and 3. They should really. Over the over Belichick, who. Started three quarterbacks that year

and still went whatever they went. And that's true. Where did they go? Fourteen and two. They were 14 and two that year. Yeah. Yeah, one of those losses came to the bills. Remember when Jacobi Bresset had one hand?

Yeah, was playing with a bad passing in. And one of that game in a one of them came with one of the backups, right? Yeah, they got three and one with it. Three, yeah, three and one without Brady, right? Yeah, and the whole flow was when Bresset was hurt and they were like threatening to start at a minute quarterback.

And Bresset played anyway and didn't play well. Graplo won the Cardinals game, the opener, which they were super good then. Then the Dolphins, we got hurt in the third. Bresset finished the Dolphins game. Then they beat the Texans on that. On Thursday night, I remember watching that game at Borealty Park.

You got hurt. And yeah, but they lose to the bills. It was like 16-nothing. Yeah, I watched that game in a bills bar. And as I was leaving, everyone was shitting all over me. And I said, enjoy your Super Bowl. Enjoy your Super Bowl. Enjoy your Super Bowl.

Enjoy your Super Bowl. And you can see it in their face like, fuck, he's right. Still no update on my chicken wing hat. Oh, from last year. Let's check the tracking. Yeah, please. I think we need an update on this. I regretted that immediately, by the way.

I will send you some money if I can timeshare that. Timeshare a hat. Yeah. How does that work? Just borrow it for a couple of months. I don't even think it's shipped yet. For occasions. Yeah. I mean, I think I ordered it from like a bar. Which is probably not even open anymore.

Anchor bar chicken wing. Yeah. So, yeah, it's it's in some dude's basement. It might be a while. Yeah. Maybe by the time the NFL season starts, when do they play the bills? I think it's relatively early. I think so too. We'll have to make sure you have a buy then.

Agreed. Although you have to wear a mask. Did you hear that news? Yep. Don't tread on me. They said that they're going to require masks for any fans if they have fans for the NFL season. Yeah. Haven't a bunch of stadiums already said

they're just not going to have fans? I think at least like some partial fan thing. I heard ideas like 25 percent is getting thrown around. Everyone listening to this podcast is laughing at us because the NFL season is already being canceled by the time this comes up. It's not going to get canceled. We'll see.

They're going to laugh at this one. Dude, if they, yeah, baseball is opening day is as we speak right now. I know. Has it actually kicked off, though? I was watching the pregame, by the way. ESPN is just the fucking worst, dude. Well, that's why it's such a bad mood, Greg.

They might have something to do with ESPN before this. I haven't watched ESPN in months. And I was like, you know what? It's opening day in baseball. This is like a half hour till first pitch. I was going to turn it on to see what they do. How bad can it be? And it was, there was nothing like sports related.

They talked about fucking COVID. They had like Mariano Rivera playing catch with President Trump in like a super awkward interview. And then they did like Black Lives Matter stuff. And I was like, can you not tell me anything about the players playing in this fucking game? God damn it, Pat. About right.

It's a par for every commercial. Commercials every like five minutes, being like, we're in this together. This is exactly why Greg is so mad. I do. I do. So speaking of people who are super angry, Dick Geron, probably not particularly pleased either.

When he played the asshole, noted asshole, noted asshole, Dick Geron, noted coach of the year award stealer. He's from Mass. It's from Swamp Sky. Did you know that? I did not. Yeah. But we've already decided this.

We don't want to know about these people as people because then it's harder to hate them, remember? That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point. If you could stop doing that, that'd be that'd be great. Patriots are eight and one against Dick Geron teams. His only loss came in 2000 when he was with the Bears. The average score for a Patriots game against Dick Geron,

28 to 14. The average. And then I'll where else was he a head coach? Or are you just talking any coaching? No, I was a head coach with the Buffalo Bills from 06 to 09. Oh, right. So you know how many times he beat the Patriots as a none. Exactly.

Nice math skills. So you went to Yale. I don't want to care how smart he is or how cool he is. Or he's probably got a nice wife and kids. And he's like, I don't know. It's a charity and shit. I don't want to know any of that. He's all American in football and high school, too.

Good teenage, teenage jazzy of the month. And in 2001, he led the Bears to a 13 and three record on the season. This season, not so much. So speaking of fluke, coach of the year awards. The Chicago Bears would finish his season four and 12. After starting off 2 and 0, by the way. They had come into this game losing their last six. So there were two and six at the point.

So he won this previous year. Yeah. And followed it up by winning four more whole games. That's right. They did they did like sound like that on the broadcast of like. They were like really stressed in how disappointing of a year this was. Yeah. Oh, alert for all of our three listeners.

Greg actually watched this game. I watched it from start to finish. Is that our first time you've done this, Greg? No, I watch all the good games. Yeah. So I think with with this being such a momentous occasion, being the first game of 2002 that Greg's watched, how about he gives us his Lombardi score? Yeah, you go first score.

Oh, OK, it's out of how many five? Yeah, bro, six. It's out of six. How many Lombardi's have we won? Well, sometimes you lose track when there's that many and it was one. That is true. That's a great response. We have one six. Yes, correct. Yes. It's interesting.

I don't really count that last one because it wasn't like glamorous enough for me. Only one touchdown. Yeah, I need more like storylines. Out of six, I'm giving it four and a half. OK. Any any. Any watchability notes? Third court, third quarter was just a dynamite quarter all in all blew up.

Yeah, it was like a sluggish game in the first half there. Oh, yeah, I don't watch the first half. That hurts for me. I give it I give it three Lombardi's because the first half was six six. Snoozer three out of six. But no, it's got to be more than three. Just because the end of the loan is at least three and AC championship. I don't know. Three and a half.

I had totally forgotten about this game. I've never seen it. Me too. But there was another good watchability thing. Well, I didn't look up like what the final score was because I knew I was going to watch it. And there was a lot of points in the game where you're like. This game should be over right now. Yeah, and it kept getting like darker and darker outlook.

And you're like, when do they turn this around? Exactly. It reminded me of last year against the Chargers, where I got like halfway through the fourth quarter and thought. I am watching the right game, right? They. Yeah, win this one. Yeah. And a little bit of the Atlanta game, too. I mean, since I'm in the third quarter, I was getting pretty dark out there. Yeah. Oh, actually, there's one.

There's one point in the third quarter where you're just like, holy shit. Yeah. So this is that they go on to the half six to six. Right. No one's really playing well. Both teams kind of look like shit. The the starting quarterback for the Bears is out for the game. Well, yeah, let's touch on him real quick, because the last time we saw Chris Chandler. Was in Atlanta last year.

Yes. When he got hurt so badly, he was like walking crooked. Remember, he was like bent sideways, which Michael Vick came in. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's the first game. You got lit up, too. And this game was exactly the same. Chris Chandler from the get go, just taking shots and exited in the second quarter, I think.

Like, yeah, sounds about right. Heard himself on a fourth down QB sneak. Because I think it was Lord Molloy. It was one of the same. It was. Yeah, came in and crushed him like on the top of the head. And he ended up with what they were calling a next brain. Yeah, that was definitely a concussion. 100 percent.

I think it was probably both because the way he was walking, he just wasn't moving any of his upper body. And then who'd they bring in? Who apparently was all right. Well, he might have been the starter before that, but he had severe tendonitis. Miller. Yes. Yeah, this bears team. Jim Miller.

Shitty luck. There's a throwback name. This is his last season in the NFL. Yeah. So Jim Miller was the starting quarterback before Chandler and he was like kind of garbage, right? Well, yeah, they were talking about in this game, at least, he came into the game with tendonitis in his throwing arm. So he could throw the ball more than 10, 15 yards down the field,

which, you know, if your defense knows this and you could see the Patriots defense did as soon as he came in, they just didn't cover anything past 10 yards. The safety is going further than 15 yards. They jumped every route and like it was slow going forward. And you could see which is makes the third quarter even worse. Yeah. So the third quarter is just like it. It's an absolute disaster for the bats.

Like six, six and a half time. And then it just like all falls apart. They give up a touchdown on like or they go three and I'll give up a touchdown. Well, no, they yeah, they fumble, right? Sack fumble on Brady. Give up a touchdown, three and I'll punt it. Then very next play, they run a trick play.

Yes, already Booker fucking throws it to Marcus Robinson, like a 50 yard touchdown pass. Very next drive. That was a rocket. Yeah, he's got a can. And also in in the middle of that, like he did that thing. Forty five yards in the air. Yeah, got it over to bucket Jones.

But even the like that three and out, I don't even think you did justice because it was so bad that the Patriots, their first play, they fall, started and then they burned a time out. And then they still went three and out. And then they had a punt where the punt returner kind of fucked it up and like fumbled it and muffed it. But our boy, Matt Chatham, had a 15 yard face mask. So I got called back and had to repunt it into the wind and gain extra.

Like 20 yards. And then the next play was that wide receiver pass from Buck. Immediately, a trick play touchdown. And now you're down. And then the very next drive. Was it the very next drive? He throws an interception. Couple drives later, they go three and out again.

And then the next time they get the ball back, which was an incredible interception. But Brian Ehrlacher, yeah, who's we will get to him later. But even then, the play before that on the first play of the drive, Brady fumbled the snap and had to eat it. Dive on it. And then the next play throws the interception. Ehrlacher. Yeah.

And then it's like they get the ball, I don't know, 35 yards out. And they just pound it down the path's throats. They run the ball like three plays, easy touchdown. And you're all of a sudden down fucking 21 points in like half a half a quarter. Yeah. So at that point, you're like, what the fuck is going on? You have two and six bears. Yeah. You're five point favorites. You're playing a backup quarterback.

He just turned the ball over twice in your last four drives. You're on the road. You're physically getting dominated. You're getting outcoached by Dick Geron and you're down 21 points. And you're not even they still haven't converted. Like they're not even playing a home game. For the third down at that point, either. No, they're not there. Oh, for whatever on third down.

Yeah, I was like, oh, for five or six years. But yeah, this game was even being played at Soldier Field. It was because the whole ship field was being built. So this was played at Illinois University, which is why it's champagne. Miracle at champagne, right? Which isn't spelled like it is not spelled like champagne. The drink. It's like Champlain. OK, I'm glad we cleared that up.

It's not. It doesn't have an L, Steve. Remember we discussed this last week? Ad nauseam, actually, if I remember correctly. Oh, wait, does it have an L? No, like you said, we discussed this a lot. Champlain is a is a is a French colonist navigator. Remember Samuel de Champlain? Name and getting him mixed up with Samuel de la Ponce.

You're thinking of Sergio de la Ponce. Oh, I always get to see mixed up. He's the guy that wanted to find the Fountain of Youth. That's right. Who was Champlain or de Ponce? No, let's get off this tangent. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Can we get back to maybe it's not Sergio de la Ponce?

Can we talk about a relactor or the other? Speaking of discovering the Fountain of Youth. How about that as a transition, Steve, you dick? Oh, I would help Ponce de Leon. That's there you go. We're just making sure that no conquistador after. What's the name? There's some like history guy out there that is just listening to this and going, Jesus, these guys are fucking idiots.

Who's gave a history teacher? And we got like all four of the names he brought up wrong. Oh, yeah. Like, oh, I like the Patriots. I like history. Let's listen to this. And they will never listen again. We're getting both of them. Yeah, we're correcting each other and getting them wrong on corrections. So after the Anthony Thomas literal walk in touchdown,

who also great nickname, by the way, a train. Love it. Oh, yeah. Fantastic. But the ensuing drive, I feel like this is one of the reasons we're spoiled with this Patriots team. And like Brady, especially is because he's got a massive set of nuts on him. Yeah, you any other team that goes down three touchdowns in a quarter? Like they fold, you don't see them come back from that, you know?

Yeah. And the Patriots, their next drive, they finally convert a third down to who else? Troy Brown, who actually started looking more like himself this game, I thought. And then a massive screenplay to Antoine and then Brady finally finds Falk for a touchdown answer, finally. So now they're only down two touchdowns, right? Well, Mike, my I had it all written out and then you guys interrupted me.

Because I might fucking tell a podcast works, bro. Yeah, but my Kate, it was all about my Kate. And so I listed all those things I was working against him. And then I was like, what does Brady do? Eight plays, seventy five yards, seven for seven and three and a half minutes. Tutty. Damn right. Yeah. Yeah, because I started to go in the drive was yeah, clinical drive from Brady. Yeah. And you could tell he just looked pissed off.

He was he was sassy this game. He was super sassy. I think this is the best to to bring up the commentators. And not in a way you think that I'm going to do it. You like when I started, I wrote, this is not the varsity team because it was it Kevin Harlan and Randy Cross. They're OK. Randy, mad. I did have his name.

His name is horny, mad. Randy Cross. Got it, Craig. Yeah, we understand. But I thought Randy Cross, like, I recognize his voice and was able to actually, like, put the name to it. Like, you just do such a meathead. But he actually was pretty relevant in this game.

He was saying things about. Like, right after they scored that A train touchdown about how the Bears can't relax and start like not being as aggressive on defense because of what the Patriots could possibly do. And he kept like calling out the Bears defense like on that that ensuing drive, the Brady touchdown drive for being too soft and like kind of taking their foot off the gas. And they they shouldn't do that.

I'm talking about making sure that they score enough points because, you know, you don't want to wish we had those extra four points at the end of the game sort of thing. I had a big bone to pick with them, actually. I mean, I have a couple because it's me, but I want to hear it. Yours is. They were fucking slandering, Brian, or lacker. You think?

Oh, God, I said he was. I thought so, too. They were like, he's not a linebacker. He's just a good football player. And Ray Lewis is way better. And then he doubled down on it later in the game. I think they said it like three times. In what way?

How can you say they were like, he's not a complete linebacker. He's just an all around football player. What does that even mean? That sounds like you're a complete player. Well, Erlach was playing out of his gourd in this whole game. He had that sick pick on the two point conversion. He had that amazing like just go through all the trash and put a couple on the fake snap.

He read that twice without getting full. He was all he did. Everything he'd want from a linebacker. He was pass rushing. He was stopping the run and he was intercepting passes. How is that? You know, he wasn't doing. He didn't have any sacks, I think.

Still. Well, I think that's what we're going to cross this thing was. The Ray Lewis get a lot of sacks. That check. Oh, I know. So I'm asking a fucking stat check. Jesus, well, Alexa, my pizza just showed up. I'll tell you, Alexa on it right now.

Hey, wait, it's not. Hey, Siri. Oh, good. Hey, Siri. Total how many career sacks did Ray Lewis have? 41 and a half. Oh. In your face, average per season.

That's on how many did he average per season? She's not going to get this. Maybe three ish. If that may be two and a half play for a while. Two and a half, four, three, three and a half, three and a half, zero, one and a half, one, one, one, five, three and a half, three, two, two, one. Not a complete linebacker. Maybe maybe it was racism because he's white and bald.

Brian Erlacher for a while. I wanted that barbed wire tattoo around my body. So of course you did. Dude, it's so badass. No, it isn't. Well, when you're when you're 13, it is. Yeah. Yeah. I thought Brian Rekha was an absolute.

I mean, I always loved him. Yeah. My bone to pick with Randy Cross is that he loved calling Tom Brady a mobile quarterback this entire game. He did say that. I was like, fuck. He had that one scramble on third down back. He did.

And relative to his competition that he was playing, he actually was significantly more mobile. I mean, I know Jim Miller, not a high body clear, but, you know, a 21 year old Tom Brady can actually scoot around him. Yeah. You can't hear me chewing, right? Yes. Oh, yeah. We can. Yeah.

All right. You want to give us a pizza review? Apparently that's what you do now. Yeah, these are. Newman's own frozen pizza. I got the barbecue chicken here and I got the margarita. OK. Get kind of sick of them.

On a scale of college kid to divorce dad. How sad is that pizza? Well, seeing as my wife just walked into the room and brought it to me on a platter, I would say I don't understand the scale. I'll take it. I guess college kid because I don't know. But that doesn't make sense either.

Now that I'm saying it out loud. All right. Final answer. That's what I like to hear. A browsing review from. Dude, I'm going to be honest with you guys. I probably eat frozen pizza once a week. OK. That's my like easy night.

You know, I cook. I'll probably cook four four times a week. I actually cook something. And then one night when you're like, I don't feel like doing shit. Let's just pop in a frozen pizza. Annie says my shit for that. And he's yeah, and he's a bomb, too. Oh, yeah.

You just fucking drown that shit in pepper. Throw some hot sauce on there. Who? It's a vehicle for you. You don't even care what it is. What's your meal? What's your favorite meal to cook, Andy? You're kind of good cook.

Well, your wife is good at cooking. Yeah, but she's. Trying to teach me how well it's going. But tonight I cooked pork chops in a reduction of balsamic vinegar, stone ground mustard and such a ticket. Seriously, that's like the only thing I know how to cook. It's fancy. Yeah.

But to the fact that you call the reduction in stone ground. That's what it says in stone ground. It just means you fucking ground it up. That means it's got the bits in it. So shut the hell of college kid to divorce dad, Andy. How sad is that? Well, on a scale from like beta human to cock boy.

So it's so I don't even know that means nobody does. It was delicious, by the way. Fucking nailed it. All right. So speaking of soft noodles, that interception that. Miller through, I have a note. I look like a late stage Peyton Manning. It's right after that Brady touchdown with the default to get

the pads back in it to get in that second touchdown real quick. Was he just he's on his own 20 yard line and just had nothing on the ball and Otis. Yeah, you tried to go deep and the only one that was closest to it was Otis Smith by like five yards. Guy had. But New England Spag coaching started at the Bears 25. They made you go through and I'm kicking a field goal, right?

Yeah, didn't go. So I mean, even at the end of the third quarter, it's. Bears 27 Patriots 16. So it's not like on the woods. But all this happens in one quarter, which is pretty crazy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was 14 drives like we have drives in this court. Yeah, there was four in the first four touchdowns.

Yeah, and a field goal. So 30 31 points in that quarter. Yeah, and three turnovers question. Do you think Bell check was getting out coached in this game? No, no. Those trick plays are working now. They had like three trick plays that went their way. Three. I can think of two off off my head.

I can think of two. Yeah. Patriots are also doing their own trick plays, though. Did they work? Yeah, they did the fake punt in the second quarter that set up Adams. I was good. They were 57 yard field goal where you were. Yeah, Damon Hewitt lined up like they lined up as if they were punting. I don't even know like where he hit on the field that they're like, oh, that's it.

He was the first sun protector. And he came up. Yes. Yes. And then, yeah, they lined up in. They would they have in the back. I think it was like D on branch is the running back lined up. And then they just ran a QB sneak to convert. She's also a three yard Tom Brady quarterback sneak on fourth and three. Yeah, it was even more bold, in my opinion.

And that was halfway through the fourth. Yeah, half way to the fourth quarter. That's the. It might even be on this final. Yeah, it was. It was after all the final drive. HUB blue about the clock. But we'll get to that.

Yeah. Yeah. So the page is still down. Pretty big. Oh, speaking of the commentators, I wrote down some quotes from them. Oh, yeah, you got some because you have football, not football. No, just things that amused me. These are just my musings as a listener. OK, Tom Brady is one fired up cowboy right now.

I like that one. Seductive move by Brady, which initially I thought that's a weird way to describe it, but he was describing a play action. Oh, that's like seducing someone into thinking it's a play. A handoff is really an appropriate word to use there. So both both great descriptions by. Horny hungry. What's his name?

Randy Cross Horny. Horny mad. Horny mad. Horny mad. I have another bone to pick with them as well. Oh, by all means. Yes. Patriots last touchdown and they're like.

Do they go or not even the touchdown before last, right? When they go to they go for two or do they kick the P.A.T. No, it wasn't last. So they go up one point thirty one thirty. And he's like, no, you know, got a good defense. He's got to kick the point of P.A.T. and rely on your defense. It's like the logic of like, yeah, let's go up by two or three.

Yeah, we go by two or three. Because even if you miss it, like what's one or two? There's no difference in those because it's literally next score wins. It's fucking stupid. Yeah. So I had a couple of quotes, too. It's not the error of analytics, though, is it? No, definitely the logic test.

After the last Bears touchdown, Randy Cross said this was a whole bottle of feel good pills for the Bears. So you should like that rules made me one. It was in the whole bottle of feel good pills. But I did have one football, not football. That's here. All right. So I can involved, I promise. It was you better get his whole package when you hit him.

I don't even remember what. Yeah, I don't know what context it's in. Uh, I remember the play. I think it was Antoine Smith running the ball. You better get his whole package. Yeah, I think it means grab on to his junk to tackle him. So is that football or not football? I don't think it's either.

Maybe a little bit of both. Both. Can you both an option? We've never done both. Yeah, because like you got to grab his package to tackle him. You got to get the whole thing. You know, I can't just feel like that being an effective way to bring a man down. You got to grab and grab on to grab on to that lifeline.

Oh, my. Oh, well, that's sorted out. Should we talk about those two pages touchdowns? We haven't touched on Greg. Greg, you've been really setting it up so great since you watch this game. Take us there. Take us like take us in the field. Well, you guys are interrupting me.

I'd like you to pay me a picture, please. You want me to pay you a picture? I want you to pay me. All right, so end of the third quarter. What do we guys score here? Pats are down by twenty seven, sixteen, twenty seven, sixteen. So they're down by eleven. They start out the fourth quarter by going on a long drive, like a.

Fifteen play drive that ends with a vignetary field goal. Very next drive. They give up a field goal their own. So you're like, oh, God, this really isn't heading the direction you want it to go. So you still just turn that kickoff to the fifty. Yeah, that's bad. And they doinked at that field goal in. Yeah, I did. Oh, the doink got me off.

I was going to say it's a doink miss in Chicago. Oh, fuck yeah. I really had half of it written down. Paul Edinger, too. I never heard of that, dude. It still happened. But then so you got about six and a half minutes left. You're down by eleven. Yeah. So you kind of got to make something happen here.

And what does Brady do? Brady always does. So it drives him down there. What, like the thirty five somewhere around their yard line. And the bears just send the absolute house. Yeah, Brady. And he's like. Back step and backwards and like throws it off his back foot.

And you're like, oh, God. I was third down to like, this is trouble. And like he it's one of those ones where like Falk came out of the flat and like turned left and it goes over. And he has to like turn while it's in the air and like run a wheel. And like one hands it into his basket. What a catch. And then just walks in for a touchdown.

Kevin Falk, to me, is the MVP of this game. Yeah, he was looking good. I would give you that. Yeah. Do you see his numbers? No, it didn't to me. And very, very New England offense of him. He had seven catches for 109 yards and two touchdowns and five carries for 21 yards.

And no mistakes and blitz pick up. Change the white numbers. Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's a stud Patriots. For me, I didn't notice that. Uh, I don't know if the Patriots had seen something or what, but they were running a shit ton of like draw plays in this game. Yeah. And it felt like Kevin Falk was getting a good amount of those yards on it.

They did draw screens, flat routes. Like Anton Smith caught a bunch of balls in this game, which is weird. It felt like that. Yeah. What was Anton Smith's numbers? I just scrolled all the way down, Andy. Kind of like the first, huh? Anton Smith, four catches for 24 and 10 carries for 41. Felt like you did better.

Troy Brown, 17 targets, 11 catches, 90 yards, 17 targets. You were back. How outrageous. He was back. Well, I think he had a tough, a bit of a tough day against those corners who are pretty good. Jerry Azuma, Jerry Azuma, UNH product. Yeah, baby. Really?

Shout out. They're in the the dark, the shieldizer. Yeah. Who do you? Who had a better name, the Jerry Azuma or R.W. Macquarders? Oh, sure. R.W. Mcnickles. But if he was a nickel back. Oh, that'd be so perfect.

At some point, he was. He must have been at some point. Yeah. But like, as cool as that dark face shield was. That can't help you in a night game, right? I don't know. Does it hurt you? I've never worn like wearing sunglasses at night, right? I've never worn one.

I mean, Aaron's grandfather used to wear his sunglasses at night when he was driving home because the it would cut down on the glare of oncoming traffic, which scared the absolute shit out of me. This is what happens when you get three guys in a room who have never played football, talking about football. Well, how did I see out there? It's dark out and you're wearing sunglasses.

I guess they have lights on the field, though. Two of Kevin Falk's catches were bailouts for Brady Sacks, too. Remember those plays? Oh, the little shot put ones that you've been doing back then. Yeah, like crazy shovel passes from Brady about to get sacked and just flipped it to Kevin Falk. Yeah, he had a couple of those.

And he also had what I thought was like the textbook screenplay, like right at the end of the first half. And it went to Falk for like 30 yards. Yeah, where like it just looked like it was a broken play and like the blocking was perfect and like they let him out through just the right time and it was it was the perfect play. Let's talk about that because that one of those like flip shovel passes when everybody's about to get sacked is like pulled halfway down

was on that drive. It was, yeah. Take us there, Greg. Yeah, that's the last there. So actually, well, before we get to that scene, the Patriots, Falk scores a touchdown and then. So now what's your score there? So now we're down four, right?

Yeah, they go. No, they go for two and they didn't get it. So they're on five. Right. So they're down. They're down five with under three minutes left. And they kick off, which I thought. The commenters like they're probably going to go on sides here. And I was like, you get two timeouts in three minutes.

Like, what the fuck would you? Yeah, exactly. You got the two minutes. They didn't line up to go on sides. Yeah, but they lined up on sides and then kicked it deep. Yeah, not a analytics error, I guess. At the back of the end. So they kick it deep and then immediately give up a nine yard run

on first down. Yeah. Oh, this is trouble. Yeah, burn their second time out. Second and one. Second and one. Big Willie makes a huge stop. Use their second time or their last time out. And you're like, all right, this is basically a third and one for the game here.

Yeah. And they're saying play action on a guy with a noodle arm. I like that. I like that. I like the thought. It doesn't make a bullet. You got Matt Miller back there. So Greg, going back to the question about whether Belichick was out. Coach, I'd say no because of this right here.

Yeah, you got to put your nuts on the table because the only time they did anything in this game was when they went outside the box. Like right across. Yep, John Harbaugh, so far outside the box that they went back in it. Yep. Is what he said makes sense. But not in commentation for you. Well, you don't understand physics, Andy.

You're clearly not a trigonometry guy. Clearly. I run up, run up the middle of the eight train and Teddy Bruce comes in and if I can stop some Richard Seymour was in there yard. Yeah, you lose the yard. And that's when you're like, all right, I see how this game plays out. Yep. And I was still like, like leaning forward towards the TV.

Like, I'm going to stop. Oh, it's a traffic stop. Like, this is this is it. This is this is when I stopped working. I like on while I was working. And then I was like, all right, no more working. That's just full time. It's getting good.

Yeah. Also, to go and bet. No, actually yesterday, going back to that other drive, the one that they got the touchdown with Falk on. They had to go for a fourth and like five from their own 43. Yeah, with like four minutes left. And that was a huge play by Troy Brown. And he just got absolutely demolished.

As soon as he caught it. So that was a huge play by Troy. He's just stuck in everywhere these early years. Yeah. Oh, so was he was like, I remember a few years ago, saying like when Brady Edelman and Gronk were still on the team. And I think it was a year that they lost in the ASEA championship to the Broncos. One of those years when paintman was still there. And it was the and they just like kept getting more and more injuries.

And I think Gronk was out, but Edelman was still there. And I was OK because I said. Like the offense runs through Edelman. Like he's the one that kind of keeps it going between the 20s. Like if Brady needs a first down, he's going to go to Edelman. And that's just going to like keep the offense moving. Whereas Gronk is the guy that finishes drive. So they'll still be OK if he's there and he got hurt.

And they weren't the same after that. And I feel like Troy Brown was the original version of that. Like when you got your jam, you really needed something. You go to Troy Brown. He's always out of any hole. Yeah. And even if he's not, he's going to catch it anyway. I mean, I think we've been pretty clear about our absolute love of Troy Brown on this podcast.

He's pretty damn good. Troy, for listening, please, please come on. We would love to have you on. Or just acknowledge our existence. That would make me so happy. I would make all. Tell you what? If anyone wants this podcast to stop forever, just, you know, get assigned affidavit by Troy Brown, saying, yes, I have seen this podcast.

It sucks. Please ask them to stop. We will stop. That that probably would do it, actually. I would stop if that if that. And if I knew that Troy hated our podcast, it would feel me so much shame. Yeah. Yeah, that would be bad. Imagine that he listens and is like, this thing is trash. You guys can do better. I did. It's gracing the brown name.

Well, we do that anyway. Yeah, chokes on you. You've been doing that for 30 years. So I guess that brings us to the final drive, the penultimate drive, really, but the final drive. Oh, big word. Love it. I was actually thinking that word in my head, too. I was going to correct you. I was going to correct you, too.

You didn't say. I know. Sorry, I should have. I should have given that to you. I think I taught you that earlier. Yes, I think we've talked about this podcast. There's a good Monty Python sketch. All right, let's just get to the penultimation. Honestly, great. You do you want to do the honors?

Nope. He's getting more frozen pizza. All right. So I think the reason I wanted Greg to do is because I felt like this drive had some similarities to the drive in the game that Greg calls the best game of the Pages Dinos in the talk room, which they actually showed the replay of in this. Yeah, I knew they were going to do that. Yeah, even even if you didn't put that together yourself,

they're going to they're going to beat that dead horse. But basically, well, honestly, at this point, the horse is kind of fresh. At that point, it was not anymore. Yeah. But so the Patriots hold the the Bears. Bears put their point bears. For some reason, they the comment is made a comment about how the bears took the wind in the third quarter.

But I don't know if that's the case. Oh, coached by Bill Belichick again. Yeah. So Belichick has the wind behind him, which is the reason Venetian was able to kick a 57 yard field goal in the second quarter, second quarter. Yep, which is very long. His is it still his career along? Problem. I don't know.

It wasn't that point. And it was also Patriots career along or Patriots all time longest field goal and the longest field goal in I found that season. So they were kicking. But he and they knew like because of where they were kicking with the wind. They were being able to. So Siri. Oh, Adam Benetieri's.

Adam Benetieri is an American football place picker who is a free agent. Would you like to hear more? I'm pretty sure I'm not really not. Would you like to hear more? No. Too bad, apparently asking. Do you want to hear more? Yes, make Siri say yes.

Shut up. Yeah, bears are kicking into the punting into the wind, which hasn't gone well in this game. So Troy managed to take the punt return back to their own forty four. Do the Windy City, right? Really living up to its name is very literally that was his career along. Yeah, I figured his whole career. Fifty sevens along as field goal.

By far, it's next on this is fifty five. This isn't the Windy City, Greg, but we'll let that slide, too. Why? Chicago or in champagne. Well, you want to get a little deeper there. It doesn't need a is it's not even called the Windy City because it's windy. Well, yes, I know. Politicians and shit. Now, it's windy as fuck in Chicago.

It is. I know it is. Isn't it? Yeah. Yes. Right off that lake. So a page of the ball on their own forty four minute fifty left because they're windbags. The politicians who are just waiting for any to start to interrupt him. No, I guess this has. I'm reading history dot com slash news slash why is Chicago called the Windy City?

I just. Oh, that URL just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? You want me to read our zoom? Oh, no, but people want to join for an episode. A soon open forum. Zoom calls. I mean, we could do a live Thursdays at seven. I don't know if I do zoom dot US dot posted.

It was just going to be us again. I just needed them. Yeah, it's cool. Good. Wait, am I still muted? Not anymore. You fucking dickhead. First time ever muted. Well, yes, because you're trying to give out our fucking private zoom call.

That's the thing we need right now is to get zoom bombed by somebody other than you. Who the hell is going to zoom bomb us? I don't know. Hackers, Greg. This is the Internet. Don't you know how the Internet works? They find something to love and then they they torture it till it's dead. Bro, I know all about the Internet.

You ever seen that video of them? Those people in that talk show talking about like, what is this Internet thing? Yeah, he's like, what is this A with a circle around it? What does that mean? Is that about? It's one of the fucking funniest videos. That's very good. There's that in the the newscast about what the like what LOL stands for. But every single one is about like drugs and sex.

That's good. So welcome. Welcome back, Steve. Patients are driving late in the fourth quarter. About a minute left, I'd say down five, two minute drill. And they're cruising. They're they're moving the ball until Brady decides to loft one into the face of the bear's nose tackle.

And it gets picked off. Brian Robinson. Yeah, who was, I guess, an underperforming high draft pick from much, much behind. Much behind. They were trashing him, too. They were trashing him, and I keep it a treasure. But then at the commentators were like gushing about like,

oh, this is his redemption, yada, yada, yada. Yeah. And then the play goes on the review and you see that he never has complete control of the ball. And for as bad as that throw was from Brady throwing it directly to the nose tackle. He is also the one that did the karate chop into the guy's hands to make him drop the football. I think the offensive lineman did it first.

Well, I saw Brady do it. I couldn't. Brady definitely did. You can see him on the replay. It's like, watch it again, Steve. Watch it again. Strict. Oh, no. Watch it again.

It was it was initially dislodged by the. No, you're wrong. He'd watch. Watch it again. He never had complete control. So how could it be initially dislodged if you never had control? Because exactly. What do you think?

Brady was there while he was. You have to have a control to be dislodged. OK. If it's not lodged, it can't be dislodged. Just saying you're wrong and you're not a good football fan because you don't see those things. You're not even a you're not even a real athlete. You are an asshole the night.

Oh, Greg and CSB at least I can beat you in golf. So that's all I care about. And foosball if the tape is correct. Yeah, I am foosball. The important sports stretching. The definition of the word sport, but OK, you do you. So in shades of the snowball of the Tuck rule. This call was overturned.

Pages get a second chance, a third chance. So I'm a far less controversial. That was definitely not an interception. Yeah, which is like all the celebrating and even the commentators like they showed the replay and it was. They had a really good shot the first time they showed it where you're like that I never even close to had that thing. Yes.

And they didn't like pick up on it, which I thought was surprising. So they went there with this whole spiel about like Brian Robinson's redemption. Yeah, the Bears are going to win this game. It's like there's probably a minute and a half where you're like, you know, overturned. Yeah, it was pretty obvious. But then if that wasn't enough for the fans to boo a couple of plays later.

Brady hits Patton with a dart in the back of the end zone. And Patton manages to dot the I with his left foot to get both feet down. Before that was a fourth and three Tom Brady quarterback sneak. Oh, yeah, the play directly. Shovel pass to Kevin Falk. Yeah. So yeah, so it was an insanity that. Yeah, all right, yeah, I did skip that. You're right. I apologize.

There's so much packed into like the last minute of this game. The referees could barely keep up because they you know, they overturned the call, give the patients the ball back, figure out like timing where the ball should be, yada, yada, yada. And it's fourth and three. So the Patriots line up real quick and do a QB sneak to get the first down and then line up again to spike the ball. But the referees have to blow the play dead because they want to measure.

But they've already like pick up the ball to put it somewhere else. But they've already snapped it. Yeah, they can't measure it. They've already snapped it. And so I felt bad for the refs there too, though, because I was like, I. I don't know what you do there. You know, you know, exactly. The only thing you could do is really review it to make sure they got the first.

But then you're given the Patriots at advantage because you stop the clock. Yeah. So it was a bit of a show, but eventually it was Brady to Patton with an absolutely ridiculous catch for the touchdown running full speed. Managed to grab it without bobbling it and get both feet down at like a full sprint with not much very rainy moss. Ask I thought. Yeah.

I had that that rainy moss on Thanksgiving against the Cowboys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Similar touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. He's had a few of those. Great catch. He's a good toad dapper. He is. He is. Yeah. And so they review that one too, because it was close. And that one was upheld.

And then you got probably my favorite chant in football is the bullshit chant. Boom. Shit. And as soon as that started, Brady Cross is like, well, the fans aren't happy about that call, but it's the right one. Would you say that they were cross? Hey.

So on the on the catch, you could tell, though, you could. It was like the fields with like the rubber pallets in it. So you could see very orange. Yeah, it was not. They talked about it. OK, fact check, bro. Yeah, the stadium's Astro turf was replaced with Astro play in 2001. Astro play.

Yeah, because Kevin Harland called Randy Cross out about it because he Cross said something about how you could see the dirt kick up. He's like, that's not actually dirt. It's rubber pellets. And they had a really. Yeah. Two thousand and one. Holy shit, I didn't even know this shit was that old. No, we need it.

Yeah, so it must have got replaced the year before, but you could clearly see his little foot mark. Yeah, on the orange end zone because they're in. Right. Yeah, it was in black. Yeah, it was crazy. It was so close. Astro play.

Yeah. See called brands. Yeah. Since the early 2000s, Astro turf has marketed taller pile systems that use infill materials to better replicate natural turf. It really is so much better than Astro turf. Oh, God, yeah. Astro turf is just carpet, like actual literal carpet on concrete.

Might have been worse than carpet. Like it was shittier to fall on than carpet is. Yeah, it wasn't great. It was very thin carpet. Yeah, I love that shit. The. Astro play is pretty good for soccer. I think it's I probably prefer to play on grass, but no way.

Really? Unless you're playing like pro, like a fucking perfectly manicured. Like if you're playing at the levels you and I are playing at, you're playing on a trash field. That's like. Oh, yeah, potholes and shit. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, the upkeep is nothing for this out of this fake Astro turf.

Right. Anyway, Pats go up one. Yeah. And then there's the debate. Do they kick the extra point or do they go for two with 30 seconds left? Take the points here. Just kick it. It's just trust your defense.

Take the points. Yeah, trust your defense. Right to all reliable. Troy Brown for two point conversion. It's good. It's wide open to. Yeah, he was super open for a one yard play. And now the Bears have a noodle arm quarterback in the ball in the 20.

You get sacked on second down. Yeah. And then they was actually frustrating as they called the timeout with one second left. Yeah. After that, he actually let like five seconds run off the clock and then called timeout one second left. It's like, well, I mean, it kind of makes sense, right?

You're only playing anyway. So who cares if it's four seconds or. One second. That's true. I would have said time run out. Yeah, so they tried the Miami Miracle. Did not work. Game over.

Pass win. And this was kind of the theme for the Chicago Bears. This was the third, fourth quarter blown lead of the season. The other two teams they had done it to were New Orleans. And Detroit, which is going to shit that year, right? I think they were pretty good that year. The Detroit Lions, I don't think. The Detroit Lions finished the season three and 13.

Oh, it was a quarterback for the Saints. The Aaron Brooks still. Yeah, I loved Aaron Brooks. Yeah, I think it was Aaron Brooks. Well, it was last year. Did you guys catch the scar sighting? No. Yes, Garnett, he was on there.

Was he? Just briefly. Also, when after the game, when Belichick, when they're just like cutting around a random people and Belichick is getting super chummy with a guy on the Bears, number 55. By the name of Roosevelt Colvin. Nope. Oh, Mike Caldwell.

Oh, Belichick drafted him in 93. I think he was on the Cleveland 93 to 95. OK, that's funny. Yeah, because Roosevelt Colvin was playing in this game. He had a good game, too. Yeah, hell, he was a monster. He was really athletic. Yeah, I wrote down who's a monster.

Wish the Patriots would sign him. Although he had one. The Keith Tractor trailer was on there, too. Yeah, but he had one play in this. Last drive. Where the Patriots trying to spike it, because I think it was Steven after the play where Brady like shoveled it to Kevin Falk.

And they ran to try to spike it. And Roosevelt Colvin just kind of like stood there and didn't try to get back onside. So the Bears had to call a timeout. Completely unnecessary play. Yeah. Yeah. And so the the Patriots, you know, got to stop the clock without having to spike it.

And I think it was third down. So if they had spiked it, it would have ended up being fourth down. So the next play was the toe tap. I think it was. That was. But I mean, Erlacher and Colvin, solid linebackers. Zuma, McWhorters, good cornbacks. Yeah, this defense.

I mean, Des White and Marty Booker and some solid receivers and tight ends. Marcus A train. The Coo Choo Robinson. What would it be? Who could you Robinson? I never remember. You have any nicknames for us?

No, I forgot to do that. I was this is what happens when I actually watch the game. Oh, I know that. I know one of them was cherry. Ha, ha, Azuma. Or is that as a key? Maybe as a game. I feel like you can recycle that one.

What what is Coo Coo? Coo, Mrs. Robbins. And I mean, is that a song? I think Simon and Garfunkel. All right. Whatever, close enough. Other shit. So Marcus, you know, this song slaps.

Probably why it was famous. Dude, can you can you put this in when you do the added Andy? Probably. What's the song? Do, do, do, do, do. It's Simon and Garfunkel underrated. R. W. Silver dollar. Maccorders.

Mrs. Right, strong city. You. All right, that's 30 seconds. We won't get sued. Why do they look like Beavis and Butthead if they were polite? It's like some bad who came from good families. YouTube comments are about like one in 20 or funny,

but the one is always pretty funny. Give me one. I just did. That was one of them. I found the Jerry Azuma one. Jerry Halls of Montezuma. Oh, I was thinking Montezuma when I heard his name. It's not bad.

They're one for Chris Chandler. I don't think so. Who's Montezuma? He's an Aztec. Yeah, we got here. We're going on history lane. Is he the one that Cortez? See, it all comes full circle.

You got killed by Ponce de Leon. You just made one up, didn't you? Cortez. I hope it's Ponce de Leon. Dude, that that is like one of my favorite stories in history, though, is when the Spanish conquis stores found the Aztecs like right around the time when they found the New World. And just just imagine that of you're like an Aztec empire

and you like I know what's going on here. And then all of a sudden these fucking random dudes with like metal swords and shields show up with horses and you've never seen horses before and you just like what the fuck? Imagine how like my there's like two worlds colliding for the first time in like history, like truly colliding. It must have been so baffling for both sides. It's like the Aztec empire was apparently like like ridiculous as well.

So it must have been just as mind blowing for the Spanish too. Oh, yeah. And then the Spanish just like raped them all like defeated the whole empire with like 30 dudes. Well, that took a dark turn. We should do a fucking episode on that, dude. Oh, let's just do the play of the game. Get the fuck out of here.

You're giving your best and worst. Greg, I think you should go first, Steve, you go. I'll do the best as the play of the game for me personally. All right. It was right after the interception, the noodle arm interception. Like Antoine Smith fumbled it, but I believe we got it back and there's a huge scrum looking for it. And Brady gets a personal foul.

Yes. For like ripping people off the scrum. I think that might be the only unnecessary roughness personal foul of Brady's career. I can't I can't remember another one. Yeah. Yeah. That's I can't remember what I thought. I feel like he's probably had another one where he got fired up and like against the Ravens, maybe, you know, he's like headbutted

and read or some shit like that, you know, I don't feel like I would remember that. I feel like there's something like that. I don't know if you got called for it or I don't know. I feel like him in the Ravens defense always used to get into. Yeah. And then the worst. Honestly, I think it might be the commentators that were frustrating. Wow. OK. They're just shitting on Brian Erlacher.

I love Brian Erlacher. Oh, you spent too much time with me. We've never done corrupted you. Yes. All right, Greg, are you are you prepared yet? I know we sprung this on kind of we've never done this before. Yeah, it's my worst is Steve not getting as hyped about. I feel like I've been the worst of yours like half the time. Well, did you just go to Tango cheat line?

Did weren't you just there? Cheech needs a you and she needs a. Yeah. All right. I mean, it's that's that's still Aztec, right? No, it was my and you fucking uneducated deck dump. All right, I take that back then. I have no idea. Could it probably definitely be Aztec. I'm just making it up.

No, I think you might be right. I really look it up. History teaches a listening. If Mr. Golden, if you listen to this, I apologize for all of us. It's mine. It's mine. Yeah. So my worst is really then Montezuma thinking that Cortez was like a divine envoy of the God Quetzalcoatl nailed it. It's so wrong.

That's not even close. Now it's pronounced like this. Yeah. That's very hard to pronounce it. Yeah. So apparently Montezuma just like just starts showering him with gold. He had like rooms full of gold and he demanded everybody from his empire to bring gold to this dude. And then Cortez just like massacred everyone and killed him.

He's like, oh, it's the will of the gods, you know, as you do when people give you gold, I guess. Yeah. He's just, well, I mean, I guess if you're looking at it, not in today's terms, but of the terms of the time, then Cortez, he fucking talk about an upset, dude. He just went in there with like a thousand people and like brought an entire empire to its knees, took all their gold, sent it back to the king in Spain.

He's like, hey, what's up, bro? Check out what I found. You didn't want to fund this trip. But check out what Brady did to the bears this game. Yeah. Well, all right. That's the thing, we can't like go back in history and be like, this guy's an asshole. I mean, it's a completely different time.

Have you not heard me talk about the commentators? That's legitimately what I've been doing every week on this. Just stare. Uh, all right. Uh, I mean, my worst was the first half of this game. I have a few good things we haven't touched on. One was the referees explaining their calls. I don't know who the referee was, some old dude with white hair,

and he had a great time explaining the calls. And one of them, I think it was a bear's catch on the sideline. And it was ruled a catch. And it was obviously a catch, but they decided to look at it because it was under two minutes and came back. And he said, after reviewing the play, it was a good catch. And that was the end of his call. And then he also pantomimed Pat and making the catch

and tapping is getting one foot in and tapping the other one. And he made the the actual tap with his foot and then put his hands up for a touchdown. So that was great. Well, a good pantomime. Oh, yeah. No, he pulled it out and he didn't even have to say it. We all knew what he was saying. You guys wear pants currently, maybe.

Never mind. Pantomime. You mind of mine. Pants of mine. Good one. It's mimes, Steve, like mine. Well, it seems just like. You're miming pants. I don't think that's how that works, but OK.

Is it funny how dad just hates mimes? Everybody hates me, dude. I don't know if that's a thing. I think that might be a dad thing. Everybody hates mine. They're they're pre-hated, but that definitely hates me. All right, let's ask Siri. Hey, Siri.

Does everybody hate mimes? Yes. January 4th, 2018. Everybody still hates mimes. As of 2014, it's still. Yeah, but we got to check the source, Andy. You can't just be like, yep, I saw a headline. It's on medium.

It's on everybody hates mimes.com. Yeah. Mime haters.org. Speaking of. People we didn't really like or who didn't have a great day. The Bears defensive coordinator. Not a great day, but had an amazing nickname, Dr. Defense. That's pretty cool.

This was it. Dr. Defense. No, what's his actual name? Who the fuck cares? I don't look that up. Mr. Defense. I wrote down Bears defensive coordinator and then his nickname because I didn't say his name was his name is Charles Defense.

But he goes by doctor because he has a PhD in defense. That's a lie, Steve, if you were wondering. I'm looking it up right now because I don't trust anything. It's got, you know. Let's check this. A lot of things. While you're checking that. I also enjoyed the musical selection that the stadium PA was playing.

There was some Lincoln Park on there, which brought me back. It starts with one thing. I don't know. Yada, yada, yada. Yada, yada, yada. Rest in peace. That's right. Yeah.

Chas. Chas. Statue. Hey, Siri. What? What was the lead singer of Lincoln Park, the guy that died? Chester. Chester.

Chester Bennington. Check it out. See, she links me to Chester Bennington's Wikipedia, but why can't she just be like Chester Bennington? Greg Blotche. Greg Blotche. Steve, it's, it's fucking European, dude. That's, that's doctor defense.

But the offensive coordinator, John Schup. Yeah. Schup. Schup. There it is. Let me hear you say. Schup. Schup dog.

Last thing. Schup. I knew you wouldn't disappoint the nickname. Thanks. Schup. Give me a nickname for Damon Heard. It's got to be a good one. I was thinking that of like Johnny Damon.

And then I was like, I almost interrupted you. And then I was to say like, Hey, remember when Johnny Damon said he had a rocket for an arm? Yeah. But then you got like an injury and that's why he throws like a fucking dick head. I was like, that's way too far off to engine really. That's a good one.

So just so you, just so you know. That was in his book, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. He was like, I was a specimen in high school and college and I had a cannon arm. But I made like the game. I didn't catch in the finals and I ran to the wall afterwards.

So I fucked up my throwing arm. Yeah. He didn't come up very well. No, no, he didn't. But that did give you the reason to start calling yourself a specimen, Greg. Cause I've heard you say that about yourself many, many a time. That's not true.

Danny. I think you're a specimen. I think you're both specimens. In one way or another. Right. It's a pretty open-ended term. It is. That's why I used it.

Yeah. You're both definitely human for the most part. Steve's like a science experiment specimen. If you combined like a homeless person and a mentally challenged infant. It's bold coming from a dude who had half a beard. Yeah. One half of that beard was homeless.

Yeah. And the other half, like the whole idea has got to come from some mentally challenged infant. I was free-styling. Right. What you know. And he did. If I, it would have been better if I had time to think of

something. Whatever. About how improv works. Yeah. I was like, Steve, he's disheveled. He's immature. He's not smart. Nailed it.

All of these things can be said about you, Greg. Can be said about all of us. Oh, these ones. Oh, God. You even go to high joke or nothing. Come on. Oh, boy. I'm just glad my girlfriend saw Greg with the half beard

because now she knows it could be worse. This is true. Yeah. I've gone up a notch. And the thing about that is it's the same thing with setting expectations low, right? Now that I don't have a half beard, I look like amazing. In comparison.

Yeah. Exactly. And it's all about comparison. Right. If I just never had one, I'd be like, yeah, you just kind of looks like a dump still. But the fact that I went from like super dumpy to dump. Now dump has been like bumped up to like, he's pretty good now.

From dumpster to just dump. It's all about setting expectations. You got to go down. You got to crack a couple of eggs to make an omelette. Yeah. Yeah. That's why my first few Valentine's days with my wife were horrendous at the beginning of our relationship.

What did you do? I don't even remember, but they weren't good. What do you do now? What's Valentine's Day? Nothing great. But if I take out the dinner, that's fine. Valentine's Day. I hate Valentine's Day.

Not a huge fan. Steve, comments. Again, I don't know what this is. Well, you'll find out. That's how you set the bar low, boys. Deny its existence. Speaking of Dr. Defense, Jesus. So.

Dr. Defensive. Ew. So speaking of improv. I had an idea and I don't know where it came from. But I was thinking that we should write a book. But then I thought we're not that smart. Which one of us is called? Right.

Well, that was my next thought exactly. Yeah. Let's reiterate. This is a children's book. Yes. Wow. Who's drawn the pictures? I think you either go that way or the opposite and make an adult

book. I can do that. The thing that popped into my mind was a gronking to remember. And I feel like we could put one of those together. But we also are not very adept in the bedroom. So it might come off as like. Even better. It's like, it's like a four-year-old virgin when he's like.

They're like bags of sand. And I mean, part of it's already been written just from Greg talking about how he would do the Thai law dance afterwards. Exactly. That's not getting anybody horned up. No, but it's on brand though. I think. Okay.

I tell you what. Have you read a gronking to remember? No. Listen to a podcast. I think I have it. It doesn't have to be sexy is what I'm saying. What does it take to get a book published? Because I'm down.

All right. You can self publish. Yeah. Well, I think I think what we should do is we should all. Oh, they only they only print it when someone buys it off Amazon. Yeah. You can you can do a Kindle book for basically free. Yeah, but I want to have it in my hands.

Because I'm not going to have enough trouble. Put on my Reds game every week. Put on your resume that you're a published author. Just don't. I ain't putting anything about the podcast on my resume. Exactly. I love someone looking me up a list into this. Yeah.

I bet there's another Greg Brown that wrote a book. Watch this. Greg Brown. That's a good thing about having a common last name. Tell me about it. Dude. I just said to put Greg Brown author and I have seven results. So if anyone ever questions.

Oh, no, they're not going to believe this guy. One, two. Yeah. The first one. There's no way I can write the first one. It's a black guy writing about the Bible. Yeah. I see Brown, the American Christian author, radio broadcaster and former

seminary professor. I have Andrew Brown born 1955 in London. He's an English journalist, writer and editor. That might work. This guy wrote founding staff members of the independent. Joseph trusting in God's sovereignty and goodness. The Bible teacher's good book 22. Yeah.

I can relate to this guy's books with this podcast. What was I thinking? Candlest freedom. Ooh. When your rope breaks. When being good is not enough. No more mystery. Nice guy.

What? Three free sins. You sent me this link. Oh my. Free free sins. This guy wrote all of these. Yeah. Brown or Steve Brown.

Jesus Christ, dude. That's awesome. Andrew Brown wrote watching the detectives. The Darwin Wars. In the beginning was the worm. Fishing in Utopia. And that was the church that was. Thanks.

Oh, dude. Brown wins this. What does he look like Steve? Could you like in a pinch pass or use his fake ID? He's a real old dude. He's younger. Dude, I found my guy. Belfast, Maine.

Bought my age. Wrote some generic fucking bullshit. He looks like hide the pain Harold. You know that. Yes. That meme. Yeah. I don't.

I got rules. Where are you seeing pictures of them Steve? I found the pager. Oh dude, I found a picture of him with a podcast mic. Like we got going on right now. No. Dude, he's a radio dude. Oh yeah, he is.

Asheville, North Carolina. Yeah. Right down street. Shout out to Asheville. Is it Steven with a pH? It's cool. It's Steve. I don't know.

It's actual. I wonder his Christian name is, you know, is the host on the talk show Steve Brown, et cetera. Oh, yeah. Brown on MPR. He's Steven with a pH. Steven Webb Brown. Damn, Steve.

All right. So we have to write. Wait, these are. These are religious books. Yeah. Super religious. No more. Nice guy.

Being good is not good enough. This is perfect. Candles for you. I am out. What are the three free sins? Can I just be gluttonous as fuck? Of course, when I clicked on. I'm going to buy this because what we're going to do is we're going to use this as a jumping off point.

We're going to write our own three free sins. But based on. A Patriots adult novel. Okay. So three free sins. Erotic novel. About Patriots fan fiction. All right.

So we should like, we should have the game for free sins. Oh yeah. We'll have to change the title slightly because we can't have another three free sins by Steve Brown. Oh, oh, oh, it's even better. The full title three free sins. God's not mad at you. Oh, I thought they're two separate books. No.

It's the same book. Oh, I hope this. Oh yeah. I like this. This Amazon review. Not sure why he picked three and it doesn't. And he doesn't really explain that either. That sounds like Steve Brown.

I know four out of five stars. Doesn't make any sense. Oh man. Oh dude. This is a Joel Austin book. No. Hmm. Oh Steve.

That's trouble. So to do that title or do we do. What was I thinking? How about this? This guy is way more successful on podcasting and radio than we are. Currently heard on 600 outlets. Stephen. Everybody's more successful than the podcast.

Dude, angry conversations with God. We should get him on a pod. We should get him as a guest. No. That could be dangerous. No. Absolutely not. Dude, he was a pastor in Quincy and East Dennis.

Yeah. Damn dude. I wonder if he was part of that whole thing that went down there. Dude, I don't think we should get him on the pod. Hey, but you know what? I will not not. That is not offensive because that actually happened. Okay.

Yeah. They were fucking little kids for years. We can't make fun of him for that. I don't want to live in this country. Well, I don't know if he did it though. I know, but we're allowed to ask religious people how they feel about it. We'll cut. Yeah, we'll cut this part.

Nothing. This is gold. I just want to say for the record, I think religion is good in that it forms communities that all use a higher moral standing. But I also think it is bad because it ends up with kids getting dittled. Yeah. I think people use religion as a shield to be an asshole sometimes. Agreed.

All right. Someone we got here, but on that note, I think this is the perfect time to say, if you'd like to share your thoughts with us about how we're doing on our podcast, you can go to writethispodcast.com slash Pat's Pod. Hey, well, how many, how many 50 shades of gray did they write? There's three of those. There's 50 shades. Yeah, I think there's three of them.

Oh, let's just think that we could do like one of us reads of 50 shades, one of us reads the other one, and then we meld it together for the fan fiction. Because that's what we're doing. We're like, we're combining genres, right? Right. I mean, I was going to read a Gronkington member just for pleasure again, because I've forgotten. Again? Yes.

Have you read it? Jesus Christ. The second one is bizarre. You know what? I think we'll have to do one more time. The second one is bizarre, is that what you said? Yeah, it's worse than the first. There's two.

Yeah. But I think what we'll have to do is we'll have to do a review of those. Be honest with me. Yeah. Did it make you horny? At any point. At any point. It did not.

Just a little bit. It was too weird. I don't know. I don't think that was weird. Some weird shit has made me horny before, Andy. I know. I agree. Let's not end this podcast just yet.

We've got another rabbit hole, everybody. You know what I mean. I don't please explain. It's just humans being humans. I used to keep that. Some guy from Christmas is probably from you, Andy. I used to keep it on my coffee table just so weird people out. Yeah.

I think I got you each one of the two books. Yeah. I never read it though. The second one. I can't really read. So that's tough. Yeah. I'll read the audio book.

I'll read it to you. But yeah, I think we should do a book club where we review those books. Okay. It's well worth it though. It would be so. All right. Again, if you have thoughts on this podcast, write this

podcast.com slash Pat's Pod. Oh, I got an update. Breaking news, guys. There's one on Cam Newton. No. Dabbing with Cam. A Cam Newton erotic romance. No.

Oh, yes. Hang on. Look at this. Wait. What's the title again? Dabbing with Cam. Dabbing with Cam. Dude, look at the guy in the cover.

They just found like a random black guy. Look like Cam Newton. We can't see the camp here. You don't have to share your screen with us. What do you mean, dude? Just Google dabbing with Cam. Look inside. Yeah.

I want to look inside. Oh, yeah. That's not okay. Oh, it's free on candle. Candle limited. No, it's $2.99 to buy it. All right. I don't mean that's worth it.

Sure is just. Yeah, that isn't. You're right. Just a guy. Just a black guy. He does sort of not even really looks at the camp. So here's what we need to do is we're going to each one of us has to read one of the books.

Wait, is this the same author? I thought in book club you all read the same thing. No, it's different. Let's all read the same thing. All right. So do we start with the Gronking to remember? Do we start with the camp? I've already read the Gronking.

So let's start with the camp. Oh, yeah. Did you read the second one? We're past Gronk. Gronk is over. Yeah. I don't want to get Gronked. You might.

Nope. Dude, a Gronking to remember to Chad goes deep in the neutral zone. Hmm. I don't like it already. Oh, you have no idea how much. Dude, can we do like a horny meter while we're reading it? Hmm. Yeah, I could probably put something together.

Sure. We can say how hard was it in terms of Lombardi's one to six. Yeah. A bonerometer. All right. So next week, if we haven't scared of literally everybody at this point, Patriots are back home against another NFC North foe. You were Minnesota Vikings, purple people, leaders.

And I have nothing to say about this game. Basically. Are you ready? I know. I know nothing about it. Were they playing? I got. I started reading that cam book.

Minnesota Vikings. Vikings. Okay. Yes. So we will see them next week and we will see you next week while we were here. You will hear us next week. That was a really great transition. You like that?

No. It wasn't even a transition. What was it? It's just stumbling on your words. All right. So you'll hear me and Steve next week because Greg might not be invited back. He's been such a dick. You reap what you sow, Andy.

Oh, next week we might have a guest actually. So it seems to be on a better. I don't want to spoil it because I don't know if it's for sure yet. But we should have a guest next week. I'm not quite sure who exactly. Are they going to read the book? No, we're doing the book for next week. No, no, that's going to be a special episode.

Steve's face. I have to read a whole book. It's like it's like a 50 page fake novel. It's like what? Terror, pure terror. It's lightning out here. I'm scared. Oh, shit.

I heard that. Damn, dude. Can we get a live review of this thunderstorm? Good, but not as good as two days ago. How many Lombardies? Three and a half. You should ask God. Are you there?

And also what was I thinking? This is probably punishment for me fucking shit on Steve Brown. Yeah, it was. So if your house catches on fire, we'll all know why. So join us next week to find out if a lot of cliffhangers today. If Steve's alive. Yeah, if Steve's house burned down. Or he has been smited by the almighty Lord.

If Greg's invited back. If we have a guest and how the Patriots Vikings games go. And we'll see if my company realizes I was Googling erotic fiction NFL on my company computer, which I just realized. Damn it, dude. At least it's not Kelly's computer this time. Shit. All right, join us next week on the Patriots' Daisy Park.

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