Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2002 Week 2: Patriots at Jets

Episode Date: June 30, 2020

After blowing out the Steelers, the Pats visit the Jets as underdogs for the second straight week. Join the Brown brothers and Connor as they talk about:Hating bad commentators: https://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/04/sports/football/dierdorf-and-enberg-repeatedly-fumble-broadcast-of-ramsjets.htmlEvery Tom Brady TD pass: https://patriotsdynasty.info/tom-brady-td-passesHow they play MaddenGetting on the McGinest hype trainWith a special musical performance from Greg Brown who debuts his first ever EDM track.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Patriots Diancy podcast, episode two, season two.

Welcome to Giant Stadium to take on the hated Jets and see Brown's favorite player, Curtis Martin. Here's my favorite Martin. Steve, is he your favorite Martin? I should think of another like something to put in there instead. I mean, my favorite Martin. Yeah. So we got the brothers today, and we also have Connor back.

Connor. Nice to see you again, bud. Well, you can't see me, but thank you, Andy. It's good to be back. It's up for us. Everybody is better that way. Yeah. I think we decided the only person who didn't have a phase for radio was Mike and Kelly

apparently. Oh, boys. Boys. Kelly just dropped an ahi, ahi, tuna steak right on my desk. This is a rousing start. I can't wait to listen to you eat it while we're recording this. What? Do you want me to give you a live review?

Yeah. Yeah. Let's do it. We got some pepper corn on top. Okay. How well done is it? Perfectly seared. Nice and juicy in the middle.

We got a little, we got a melon avocado, tomato, you know, potpourri salad to go with it. Oh, boy. I don't like potpourri, but I will go with it. Oh, very refreshing to go with this. You're doing it. Oh, four stars. Four out of how many? Yeah.

Cool. Out of five? Out of ten? Mmm. All right. Now look at the scale down. Good job, Kelly. All right.

Off to a rousing start. Almost as rousing as the jets started in this game. Are you going to let me do the scouting report? Well, let's, yeah, let's preface this by saying that we've decided that we ramble a lot on these episodes. We're going to try something a little bit different today. We're going to try a little bit of a format, so we'll see how this goes. So yeah, you wanted to do a scouting report, preferably not on what you're eating or any

other seafood, but the jets, you know, I think on the jets. Yeah. I got you. I got, yeah, I got notes. Well, let's hear. I'm just going to, I'm going to set the scene a little bit here because it's not just about the jets at this point, right? This is, this is in the midst of New York versus Boston sports, like culture, you know

what I'm saying? So there's a lot of stuff going around, like hanging around both these, these cities at this point. So it's not just the Patriots, it's the Red Sox too. The Red Sox, you're, you're looking at 1999 was the ALCS when the Yankees beat the Sox four games to one. A year away from what's his name in too far too long, leaving Pedro in, no, not quite. That's, that's, that's a year from now.

That's 2003, Aaron fucking Boone, which is also the same year as Don Zimmer getting thrown to the ground. If you remember that. Oh, yeah. A little Matador action, Roger Clemens got signed with the Yankees in 1999. So two years ago, Pedro. I think, remember when he was talking about, wake up Babe Ruth and I'll drill him in the ass.

That's right around this time frame and the whole like, the Yankees are my daddy thing, but we'll forget that. Oh, yeah. Well, that was 2004. Wasn't it? Yes. Yeah. I was in peak Boston, New York was, was in 2003, Greggy.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Aaron fucking Boone. Yeah. So then the, even the jets in the Patriots have all sorts of controversies swirling around, right? So it's Bill Parcells leaving, leaving the Pats, going to the jets, there was all stink

about that. Some draft picks got traded. And then Bill Belichick, obviously resided courtesy of NYJ goes, goes from the exactly and then who replaces Parcells as well as Pete Carroll, who used to be a head coach of the Jets. Well, it's pretty good, isn't it? 1994. Pete Carroll's a Jets head coach?

Yeah. Did not know that either. Yeah. I had no idea. How did he do it? Did he get Jets USC? I have no idea. Oh, look at that.

It could have been that great, right? Yeah. So then Mo Lewis, obviously last year, Victor Green leaves the Jets, comes to the Pats after eight years in the Jets this off season. And somehow the Jets come into this game as one point favorites. They did. I noticed what the fuck. Wait, he's one of the Super Bowl and back to back underdogs.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so they were underdogs last week and blew out the Steelers and the Jets squeaked by the bills, I think it was, even though they are outgained and like out everything, but it was only because they beat the bills last week because Chad Morton returned to kickoffs for touchdowns and they won it over time. I just looked up Pete Carroll's time at the Jets. Not great.

In 94, elevated at coach. Carol painted a basketball court in the parking lot of the team's practice facility where his coaches played three on three during their spare time. They go six and five in week 12. He got fakes bite by Dan Reno. Oh, that was fake. The clock and through touchdown. And then they lost all of their remaining games to go six and then he got fired.

Oh, we got fired and then hired by the Pats the next year. Now you went to the Niners for two years. Oh, then it's not a head coach. Yeah. And the Jets actually got ravaged by the the Texans expansion draft, too. They did. I noticed that. Who? Yeah, there were some kind of big names that left. Yeah, the two biggest like salary cap hits from that expansion draft

for both Jets cornerbacks, Aaron Glenn and Marcus Coleman. Yeah, I had a note like there's possible Hall of Famer Aaron Glenn, right? That one. Is he? No, no, like they're defensive. I'm back here nasty, but they're secondary. Like year over year had no no names. Yeah, they had three out of the four guys were new.

There's only one who was the front there from last year. I remember what it was. Oh, they also lost Tom Tupa to the box, right? That's awesome. That was a big loss, I think, because you didn't hear about about him being a quarterback as well. So what else you got, Greg? Yes, so that's the same.

That's all I got. All right. Vinny test is very still a quarterback, which is ridiculous. Yeah, but didn't they? Well, they didn't draft him this year, but the backup was Chad Pennington, right? Who I think I played here's the season before play a couple of games a season before, but nothing really. I love Chad Pennington.

He's the winningest ace quarterback behind Brady, right? I believe he is. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I believe. And what time frame? Well, since Brady's been playing. Yeah, since 2001, probably. All right. Like Jim Callie's got to be up there.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Not ever. But yeah, in the last 20 years, the second most wins by a quarterback in the AFC East, I think is Chad Pennington. I mean, who else who else has any wins? If it's magic, you've padded his stats this year, right? He won six games. Probably up there. Yeah.

Yeah. He's won a few games here and there for every other AFC East team. All right. So then should we get into the game now that we've set the scene here? Yeah, let's do it. All right, Steve, you want to? Well, all right, I was just out there in the final score was like 44 to seven. Yeah. Shit stomping.

I watched every second of it. I loved it. Yeah. I was at last quarter. Oh, it was amazing. Pennington signing as a for the obvious first ever snap. There were my favorite part on one, two, three, four, five quarterbacks played in the fourth quarter. This can you name them? Five. Yeah, I can like.

So I got Steve. I want to see if anybody else can can name any of them. So so how many can you name? Name what? The five quarter playing the fourth quarter of this game. Oh, oh, the five what? Quarterbacks that play quarterbacks or quarter of this game. Oh, I'm not too wrong.

Test of Verity. Ha, Brady and test of Verity. Yep. Chad Pennington. Rohan Pennington. Rohan, David, David, he did. He was he was in there for all three Neil Bones to end the game. They were a meals and David, David, he was getting in.

Yeah. Fuck yeah. And he let a drive entirely of handoffs that finish with a fault touchdown run. I did not know that was Damien Heard. I watched that game and I didn't realize it. He was in there doing a handoff for that entire drive. That's all he did. You had like five or six handoffs in a row

because they were just trying to run the clock out and the Jets couldn't. This was like they were clearly trying to make K-Falk a like a thing here. Well, I think they had activated him over JR Redmond. But yeah, he was he was number two everything. Even when you go back and you rewatch that Rams Super Bowl game winning drive, you're like, JR Redmond, I thought that was Kevin Falk. You know, you just kind of assume Kevin Falk and the Pages dynasty are like one and one, which at some point they become.

But I mean, 2001, he didn't do anything really. He didn't even dress in that Steelers week one. So he wasn't even on the active roster for the first game. But in this game, but they're really kind of dressed and Kevin Falk did. And he was kind of like running back, James White. Yeah, same exact idea. And White started out. He couldn't do anything either.

Like the first year, James White was just everyone's calling a bust. That's right. Not anymore. Yeah, he was I think he was the the number two running back because Antoine Smith. Yeah, Antoine Smith got dinged up. So he was the lead running back. And he was eventually returning punts. And I think he was returning kickoffs at one point to him and Dion Branch.

He was back there. I don't actually return any. But so he was the the Troy Brown of the of this game, I think. Yeah, so Pat's absolutely crushed him the whole game, but they really could have beaten him better. Troy Brown had that fumble on the one yard line in the first quarter. Yeah, as he was going into score was brutal. That was a very rare mistake from Troy Brown.

I think that being said, Troy Brown in the first half, 10 catches, one hundred and seven yards, the Jets, 48 yards. You like he doubled them up by himself. Yes. Just catching the ball. So there's something else I want to mention, actually, before we get any further. We've been talking about all these plays. And if you actually want to watch it, you can go to the website. So for this one, it's Pat's Dynasty.info slash games slash 68.

And you'll be able to see all of Troy Brown's big plays, especially including his wide receiver screen. What do you say, Greg? Does that mean next week? Does that mean next week is slash 69? It might be nice. Oh, I'm intrigued. Tune in next week.

I can't wait. I'll dress up. Yeah, maybe get a bottle of wine. We know you're having for dinner then. Yeah, Jesus himself. Poonani, what they say, Steve, wine him, dine him. Sixty nine. Oh, yeah, if we had had more for that, we could have got to Gronk on this.

He loves him. I got 69 joke. Andy, make sure you get that. Six feet first thing I'm sure he's got nothing better to do right now, right? Oh, Steve, they're all on here. Don't you worry about it? Did you want to talk about that reverse that like he like fakes reverse and like one of the best ball fakes I've ever seen from Brady. And he hits that dime.

And he's I was just that was that Steve, you just took one of my key talking points. That was a thirty nine yard past past the David Patton. I wrote down that Brady's play action ability has always been elite. I mean, he he sells the play action, the reverse better than any quarterback ever. I agree. And he's one of the few that still

that still turns to a preach to him by sorry. What are you saying? You know, like, took the ball, Charlie Weiss taught him up on that. Yeah. Yeah. But he seemed to run reverses a ton last like, I don't know, maybe even back in the day, like this time last year, they're running a ton. That certainly Charlie Weiss, Charlie Weiss, baby. He was awesome. Yeah.

And he was not one of the direct snap to Kevin Falk, where Brady would pretend it went over his head. He's got the announcers again on this game. Should we talk about them? Sure, because it's the introduction of Dan fucking Dierdorf. And the worst. And thanks, Greg. I appreciate the support, whether or not you believe it, I'm not sure.

But yeah, I know, I know, I really do. I usually get you shit about this, but Dan Dierdorf blows. And so I used to think it was just him. But I paid special attention to this because I've been kind of hyping it for a while about how much I hate Dan Dierdorf. But Dick Enberg, his partner, is probably as bad, if not worse. The two of them actually looked it up. There was a New York Times article written about how bad they are.

Dierdorf and Enberg repeatedly fumbled broadcasts of Rams Jets games. This isn't even like a Patriots game. This is just like they're just that bad. And yeah, we'll link that in the show. Did you read the article? Oh, did I? What were they saying? Basically that they don't seem to understand what's going on in a football game.

And they're talking about. Let's see. Here we go. Here's a little bit. Dierdorf had a notably weak day. Analysts are paid for their opinions, but he had some disputable one Sunday. He prays a dubious challenge by Jets coach, Herman Edwards, a reception by the Rams Torrey Holt, saying it was a good tactic to stop the Rams momentum. The challenge was denied in the context of Edwards history of bad clock management. The Jets lost a possibly crucial time out.

When the Rams scored two plays later, Dierdorf tried to justify his praise of Edwards decision by saying that Edwards made the call because he sensed this coming. Huh? And it just goes on and on. Well, in this game, he held his partner. I love it when you talk geometry to me. Oh, we'll get to some quotes. That's funny. Is it? Hang on. Hang on. Here's here's a here's the payoff.

Then came a real head scratcher. Jeff Wilkins lined up for the 31 year game winning field goal for St. Louis at a distance from which he rarely misses. Still, the disappointed Dierdorf said, I would have tried for the touchdown. Touchdowns are sure things with this often. This is an overtime, by the way, an overtime. Yeah. That's before you. Everyone gets a possession, too.

Right. Right. So it's first first score wins. That's bad. Yeah. But he he did love Charlie Weiss's the direct snap to folk. It was Charlie Weiss has gone crazy and Charlie Weiss is unleashed. He went on about that on a. This one was actually pretty good on a. I think it was like they measured the the first down and it wasn't.

And he said he's about two Jimmy Deans short of a first down here. What does that mean? I think Jimmy Deans are those sausages, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. OK, real close. But then they showed Teddy Bruce, he going to locker room with like wooziness and neck injuries and neck issues. And he didn't return.

And Dierdorf says, oh, he might have gone in for a Bruce ski. Which seems that's a professional guy who's getting his head looked at for a fucking possible concussion. Yeah, well, it's not even a beard or relax. Not even. Hey, you know what, Andy, you could you could use a Bruce ski. All right, chill out, Bruce ski. No, this is the first time I get to go into fucking Dan fucking Deardorf. Oh, Dick Emberg was worse.

What did he do? What did he say? Well, I don't know if it's racist, but he seems to assume that all Patriots wide receivers look the same. He was confusing David Patton and Donald Hayes multiple times. Yeah, that's understandable. Yeah, because they're, you know, one's five foot, six. You know, the one's like six foot, four. That makes a lot of sense, but the numbers aren't even anywhere close either.

He also called those team those wide receivers. They all look the same, I guess so. And he did. He did that with all. He got every single one wrong with a different wide receivers. Very impressive. He like calling people David Patton. And then he couldn't quite understand how much yardage was needed for a first down.

He struggled with this all day, but my favorite was at the beginning of the game where it's I think the Patriots ran for 13 yards and on first down, he's like, oh, it looks like he has nearly enough for a first down. And he does on a 13 year game. Well, he's three. He's only up in the box. He's up in the box, Andy. No, if you ever watched a game that high, I was even further away. I was watching from TV.

Also, he's used to the metric system. So yards and all that can get confusing. What about when he called lawyer Maloya, former jet? That wasn't good. How did he fuck that up? I don't know. He's probably taking a Victor Green, right? No, it was right after Victor Green's pick six.

He's like, and he comes back and gets a bunch of congratulations from his former players about where Maloya loves that the former jet. I was like, yeah, I was like, no way. I had to Google it while sitting there watching the game. I was like, yeah, thank God. Oh, no. Oh, he he liked to confuse Kevin Falcon, Antoine Smith, too. Did that a bunch?

And then he also called the team the Bellatari's Patriots after they keep the field goal at the half. Wait, what? That's a is that a pun? I don't think so. I don't know. It was tough to tell. Yeah, I don't. I don't want to be right. What? Why would you combine those two names?

I think you just it's like Brangelina. Bellatari. Plus, we're talking about Brady being a bachelor, judging the Miss USA pageant, too. Oh, yeah. I thought that was a little risque. Yeah, well, there was a lot of football, not football on this. Yeah, Fox in the henhouse sort of thing. I think you guys want to want just a little slice of that.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right. So this is I think it's it's all Dick Enberg. He's a he's a Foxy man himself. But he was talking about our favorite wide receiver on this this program. He said, look at what has been the hallmark of Troy Brown's career going up, stretching out, exposing himself. Football, not football. Well, it's Troy Brown.

So it's definitely football. The man lives, breathes, eats, sleeps, football. And I don't see how it could be. Why is he talking about it? Sounds like some sounds like some locker room talk to me. Oh, it could be locker room talk. You're right. Just boys being boys. Yeah. Yeah. Just grabbing by the football.

I got it. I guess it's part of football. All right. And then they were both going back and forth over something. I don't even remember what. But it ended with I didn't think you'd get it in this quick. Oh, I was giving a dig about Michigan losing. Oh, yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. So you think it's about the dig and not about something else? You don't think they were they were they were having they were having sex on on air.

All right, good. And then I think this one was actually our our boy, Deodor. He was fascinated the entire game with ball handling. He especially boomer sized. He said boomer sized and was a magnificent ball handler and ball faker. I don't I understand ball handling. Ball faking, I think might need some explanation. Have you ever heard someone call like another person's hands their cock feelers?

No, I can't get your dirty cock feelers off me. I have now, but no, that's a dany ism. Or like your mouth, your mouth is your cock taster. Stop running your cock taster. Just Dan, you know, it's got a dirty mind. He does. The ball your ball handlers. But now Tom Brady has also become a very adept ball handler. I think that I mean, that part's true.

We already talked about that. Yeah, I suppose that is for Paul, isn't it? In that regard. Yeah. What about boomer, though? Was he a good ball handler in the same way? Or was it different kind of balls? That's all I had. I just wanted to bring that back in.

The memoriam of our. Our Mike Mello. And then you'd have another 20 years of commentating games. Yeah, he still did. Didn't he just get replaced or something like that, too? Yeah, I was Dan Fowler. I don't know how he had such a long career. Which one did I do it off?

Fouts. Oh, yeah, for all Dan, he was easily my least favorite. And I think I think it will get worse. But for now, that's just the the intro to Dan Dairdorf. For me. Motherfucker, he is in the Hall of Fame. You sons of bitches. Theodore. Yeah.

Yeah, remember, I told you that. Oh, yeah, but I didn't want to look it up because I thought you might be kidding. No, he's a Hall of Famer. Son of a bitch. For what? So it was Brent Jones. Oh, yeah, but that was if you do something.

Something else, though, isn't it? That wasn't like the real Hall of Fame. Jewish players Hall of Fame. It was something like that. The NCAA Hall of Fame or something or whatever his college was. Oh, something like that. Oh, you got me all riled up again.

Thanks, Greg. All right, let's get back to the game. You can relax, Andy. Bring me back, Steve. Bring me back. Talking about the second half. Yeah, second half. More of the same first possession for the Jets.

Blindside Blitz from Tabaki. Scoop and score. With the Tomahawk chop. Yeah, I'll say that. I think so. And like, they just kept beating them down. Their biggest play. And I think they're leading Russia up

for the day for the Jets. It was their fucking punter. That was going to be my best. Yeah, the only thing the Jets had going was they had a pun. It was also their first. It was their first first down of the game. It was in the first quarter. It was.

Yeah, it was their. It was their first first down of the game. Yeah, he was. So and their favorites. Think about that. Yeah, their favorites at home. What? Talk about a shit stomping.

So imagine buying tickets to that game. Oh, it was raining, too. Oh, yeah. Pissing it down. That's one thing that that's one thing you don't have to worry about as a Pat's fan is like, am I going to pay a lot of money for tickets and show up and just be miserable the whole time?

Yeah, I was thinking that too. I was watching close games, but. Yeah, like how often do the Patriots ever even get blown out at home? Oh, yeah, especially at home. Hey, like legit can't think of one. Yeah, losing by two scores at home. I don't know.

Even even like just in general, like how often? I don't know. How often does that even happen? Like that thing? Yeah, you get beat by a stat check. Yeah, I think I can think of a thing. What was the Ray Rice Ravens playoff game? That was a good one.

Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Oh, opening night against the opening night against the Chiefs. Was that like 2000? That was pretty bad. Oh, yeah. 18 or when what's his face when went nuts on us? Cream hunt. Yeah, cream hunt.

Yeah. There was that was a 2009 playoff game where they lost to Sanchez and Rex Ryan. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to that game. It was fucking miserable. Oh, yeah, I watched that with let's see. It was probably a good launch into my other stat here.

They said at the beginning, if you notice the Jets were wearing their road whites. And I guess they must have changed your name to include New York Jets this year as opposed to just Jets. Oh, because they were still under 500 at Giant Stadium. I think it was called back then what MetLife is now. It's like a loser approach. Oh, we had a pretty good record last year.

That's where road to our own home that we play is named after a different team. I bet they're still not about 500 in that stadium because they're the fucking Jets and they suck. The place is a dump, too. It's a dump. It's no character there. He hated that stadium. Have you been there, Connor, to MetLife?

To MetLife? No, I haven't. I don't know. Oh, it's probably driven by a driven past. Yeah, God, it's just gross looking over there. It's just like a swamp, huh? And it's milling nowhere. It's just like there's no character. It's disgusting.

There's nothing around it. Is it like an industrial park? Yeah. And it's like a. It's literally just surrounded. It's surrounded by meadowlands, and it's just gross and barren. Yeah, and they came 500 there because there are a bunch of posties. Tony, watch every second of this game.

I loved it. Yeah, you know who else loved it? Bill Belichick. Yes, the amount of times they show him on the signs. He's had that smirk on his face. You know, the one that he had when he was running the clock down against the Jets this past year. Unlike that, the clock thing that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess I'm trying to wrinkle in the rules. Yeah, and he had that just like shooting green on his face. Like just just like a half a smirk. He had that on this entire second half. His best one was right after the Kevin Falk touchdown. Yeah, it was the first of his career. Really? I got a nice one because he saw I saw Falk keeping the ball.

So I'm assuming it's his first touchdown. Oh, well, he was the starting running back in 2000. So I would have hoped he'd scored at least one rushing touchdown then. Oh, so maybe it's been a while. I think some somebody's just check his stats. All right, stat checker. Check it. And while you're doing that, I want to talk.

Yeah, you're this fucking stack guy. You're the mean to a mistake. He's still eating it. Yeah, it's a big to a mistake. I thought you could eat. He's like a little bird. Don't talk to me about eating, Andy. I'm just saying I can eat.

I would have finished up by now. Looking it up. He scored. I'm not sure. Touchdowns before. Touchdowns. Oops. There was a seventh touchdown.

But all right. First of this year, though, he definitely kept the ball. Yeah, yeah. I wonder if he kept all of them. I mean, it's not like he was scoring a shit ton of touchdowns. May as well, right? Maybe it's because they beat the Jets. Who knows?

But I want to go back to the fake punt because I think that drive was my turning point of this game because the Jets went three and out yet again. And then they did the fake punt, which converted their first first out. And then I think it was a very next play. They had a big play to Santana Moss that drove to the Patriots 20 yard line. Like, oh, shit, they might actually score some points here. And it's like 20 to nothing. So, you know, they score a touchdown, they're down two touchdowns,

and this is all of a sudden a game. The very next play was Victor Green's 90 yard pick six. And the same Victor Green, who was the leading tackler for the Jets the year before, and they just like didn't want him back, I guess. Yeah. So he left on real bad terms. They were definitely talking about that. I didn't know that much about it.

No, me neither. Did either you, Connor or Greg, you either of you guys know anything about that? No, what? Say that again. The Victor Green saga. Oh, no, I probably back when it was going on, but it had escaped me. Yeah. But he retired as a jet, I guess.

So it couldn't have been that bad. And that was like two years after. They put one year in New England, one year in New Orleans, and then he was gone. Yeah. So he like signed, he signed like a one day contract with the Jets so he could retire as a jet. So, but interestingly, the wiki wiki pedia didn't even have didn't have him as like, you know, they do like the additions and subtractions.

He wasn't on there. No, he wasn't, was he? Which sounds like there's a conspiracy afoot. Hmm. Somebody's been washing the wikipedia's. Maybe we should update the wikipedia's. But also in the last game, the one that forced and recovered the fumble on Jerome Bettis, too.

So he's had himself a hell of a start to this season. He probably drops off, though. So this is his last interception of his career. Yeah. Well, he was kind of like the third safety on this team, because it was still lawyer Maloy and Tbucky Jones were the starters, but the pages were at certain points, running three safety sets out there, which I don't think you will ever see.

Well, you might see again, just because teams are going lighter now. Yeah. I think maybe to counter the whole spread offense and the RPO, you'll seem like a lighter, but still guys that can tackle. That's drafted a safety. You they're second round pick. Yeah, that's true. And they drafted a bunch of like hybrid linebacker guys.

See, like outside linebackers. Same idea. But yeah, the Patriots starting to save you back then. Absolutely nasty. I feel like they were for the whole first half of this dynasty. Yeah. Because you go from lawyer Maloy moving on directly to maybe the whole dynasty, because you go from lawyer Maloy to Ronnie Harrison to Pat Chung.

Right. Yeah, just going to throw Pat Chung in there. I mean, you move McCordy back there. You don't think Pat Chun is a good safety. You say lawyer Maloy, Rodney Harrison and Pat Chung, which one of these doesn't belong? Yeah, I agree. Roy Maloy didn't play long enough.

Yeah, fucking right, dude. Yeah, you got to go McCordy. McCordy is a free safety. He would be the Tbaki Jones in this situation. Love it. Tbaki's been a nice surprise, though, watching these games again. Yeah. He's a physical player.

Yeah, he was he's bigger than I remembered him to be big, big boy. Yep. Yeah, that dude can lay the wood and has the best name on the team. He does. I'm still sad our sister didn't name her first born to Bucky. You know, it'd have been great. No, she's got chances. Oh, yeah, she does.

Yeah, she's got another one coming, so hopefully that'll be to Bucky. All right, we got an update on the tuna steak. Is it finished yet? Kelly didn't finish hers. I got it. I got another half a steak, baby. Let's go. Going over time on this fucking tuna steak. God damn.

You're going to need a new stack guy. I think we already did. Yeah. Connor, you're the new stack guy. What? No, no, no, that's that's not a good idea. So what could I do that? What are you bringing the table here, Connor?

You're good looks. I told you, I'm color commentary. I provide keen insight into specific. You know, plays within the game nuances. Steve kind of stole my thunder bringing up Brady's reverse play action play. I was going to do a pretty big deep dive into that, but he kind of ruined it like he does

a lot of things. So yeah, let's circle around. Let's circle back to the play action then. They came up because I have a take on what I guess it was. I guess it wasn't like the deepest of dives, right? I think it's something that's I think that's something that he's always been a lead at, and it's and it has always played in his favor throughout his career, like he's just been an incredible sleight of hand, you know, not just to play actions,

like you're talking about that the direct snaps to Kevin Falk. He's just always been good at that kind of the game within the game kind of stuff. Do we know if that's something he was good at in college, too? Or is this something he learned when he got to the NFL? I don't actually know the answer to that. I don't know, but there is something either. You know, like that feeling when you're watching a play, though, and he does like a hard play action and then he's you like spins his head around

and like immediately goes off his back foot and just whips one. And usually from the five yard line before the camera even pans, you're like, that's that's a completion. So it's like there's no better feeling than watching him do that, like spin around and not waste any time. Just so I've gone through and I've been documenting all of his touchdowns as a patriot, all those touchdown throws and the amount of times he does that from the five yard line, where he just yeah, he does.

He turns his back and bends over like in half as he's pretending to hand the ball off and then just turns around and whips it basically at the goal post and just hopes that his receiver is there. It's it's textbook at this point. There's probably like 40 or 50 of them. Granted, I have his 600 touchdowns, but still like it's that is, I think, the textbook Patriots offensive play. Like they ran it for years and it was unstoppable.

And like watching on TV, I feel like with Brady, you can tell before you can see the receivers, whether it's going to be complete or not, by his like body language as he throws it. You know, if he's sitting there patting it, happy feet, you can like, oh, he's throwing this away. Yeah. You know, but there's certain ones where he's like, Zip you like, there's no way that's not caught. It's really as he's planting the back foot, it's coming out.

Like, oh, yeah, he's definitely doesn't doesn't have the guys covered. You know, it's going to completion. And that speaks to his like preparation, too, of like he's a clinical player of if it's not there, I don't I don't force it. But if it is there, I'm making that play, you know. Oh, absolutely. And you just wonder how many times he's practical that that whole like not not even just the the play action, but even like the the jump twist

that he did on the direct snap. And he literally could just stand there. And there wasn't there one play that he pretended to catch the ball and drop back for a pass. When they ran that and it was like they ran that as a like a draw play right up the middle instead of like a sweep. And the entire like defensive line bit on it, too, because I thought he was actually dropping back for a pass. You don't see that in any other quarterbacks.

I don't think I've never seen anybody else do that. What I thought, oh, no, just paint, paint manning. Paint manning used to get blown a lot for his play action if I remember correctly. Well, they only ever ran that one stretch play and then he would play action off of it. Yeah, but he was good at it, right? Yeah, that's true. Greg's a comment for everybody listening. He didn't like paint man didn't blow it. He got blown. Yeah.

By like media. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. Brady, which is to say that I'm not positive that he is that much better because it might might be a manufactured, you know, fair enough. Yeah. I think he would also do the he would also like walk away as if he was calling an audible as the direct snap happened, which I think you do a couple of times. Dude, I sneaky love Peyton now that he's retired.

Me too. I don't know if I'd say love him, but I definitely have much more respect for him now. I don't. Before he's adorable. Did you did you hear about what they're doing at golf tournament? No. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Tiger Woods and paint manning versus Brady and Mickelson. Yeah. That's fucking awesome. Yeah. Yeah, they had they had like as they had as they had a video chat today.

Yeah. Peyton went on. Peyton went on today, as in for the folks listening, May 7th, 2020. Peyton went on. Peyton went on a tangent today. I guess it's getting played in like Tampa or Florida somewhere. Yes. And Peyton was like, I wish they I wish we were playing somewhere where they hate you, Tom, like Boston. It was so funny, everyone.

Did you say that? The reason they were doing it in Tampa was because Brady was on house arrest so they couldn't do it anywhere else because of all the shit that he did. Yeah, he was like breaking and entering Peyton was like, yeah. He's like, yeah, we've got to do it in Florida now since Tom's B and E. So in house arrest, he's got the what the ankle. I'm telling you, I love him. Peyton does it for me now.

Yeah, his is like commentary. He was doing some like like film review thing. I think it was on YouTube or something. And it was actually really. Yeah, yeah. And he did it on Tom Brady's overtime drive against the Kansas City Chiefs the other year.

Oh, are you talking about the details? Like Kobe does a detail and he'll talk about different. It's like an ESPN thing called detail. Yeah, my paintings do one on Tom, but yeah. Yeah, it's called detail. It was amazing. Kobe's done one on like, yeah. It's a shame they didn't get him from Monday night

because I think he'd be really good at it. Oh, yeah, I think he'd be another Tony Romo. He can't be worse than fucking Booger. Oh, did fucking Dyrdorf fucking Booger. Yeah, his name is Booger. Like, what do you mean? Man, his name is Booger. Yeah, this is the biggest sports event like weekly

in the United States. And we got Booger out there commentating. So fuck I mean, I mean, to be fair, my nickname was Booger, but then I fucking graduated third grade and it wasn't anymore. You know, exactly. Yeah. Grown ass me like, you know what? No, my name's my name's Ronald, but call me Booger. Yeah, they got to fix that.

Fucking my the money football is in shambles. That's what happens when you let ESPN do anything these days. It seems that way. Yeah. And what do we have in the the three hour announcement? The draft, the draft. No, the they're they're announcing the the schedule tonight. And it's a three-hour event. It's a three-hour event.

Where are we going? This is not back warned. Where are we going this year? Vegas, they're playing at Vegas. Bucks are. Oh, I like it. You know, I didn't see that one coming. You caught me off guard, but I'm into that.

I'm not sure I'm into that. Yeah, I was actually just before this. I found out that I could download updated rosters on an old Madden. And so I did that. And I was beating the shit out of the fucking airs with the Patriots in Tampa. Fuck them. Those those guns for the hardship are gonna they're gonna they're gonna be silent today. You're a weird kid.

You have no idea. Seriously, I do, but not really. So good. Thirty five year old. Downloading rosters. Twenty years ago, and then acting out his. Deep. Oh, Andy, I love you, man.

Revenge. It's like it's like revenge. Video game porn is what it is. Revenge, video game porn. You know, I should do that. I should just fucking do that. Do I put it on rookie? Because why the fuck are you playing on?

Yeah, fuck it. Andy, yeah, you have a mortgage. You have children. What are you doing? Dude, I have children. That's why I'm so happy to be on. Well, I stand by. Still just ridiculous.

Here's a good seven. That's the worst part. Oh, no, that's the best. I don't want to play video games for a fucking challenge. I want to play a video game so I can be a goddamn superhero. I got a lot of the rest of my life. What was the score? I got to have time before I had to make dinner.

I was up 28 nothing. You're actually kicking the last time I played, man. No, it's. I got my buddy. Twenty eight nothing. Brady's already thrown a pick and fumbled it. God damn right he has. What were you going to say, Steve?

Last time I played, man, I had the same thing. I play with Scott, we're both the Patriots, beat the shit out of the Jets on rookie mode. Exactly. Wait, wait, wait, wait, this is so good. Let me hear about this, too. You play video games with someone on the same team. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Co-op is great.

Again, what is going on? I'm not a video game guy, but that's weird. No. No, that's co-op. It's weird. It's weird. Thank you, Connor. Like, why wouldn't you just play against each other? We may have to put a poll and someone has to play as the Jets.

Right. Exactly. Yeah. Fuck that. And if you both play as a Patriots, then the Patriots are going to lose. You don't want that. I just I just get I'm like I get like Beavis and Butthead, like you fucking chucklehead, like fucking playing the Patriots versus the Jets with your shirts over your head. Like, it just doesn't make any sense.

No, that's actually kind of very simple. Yeah, that's surprisingly accurate, actually. It's like, go home and tell your wife, like, babe, babe, I beat him 73 to nothing. Oh, no, she knows to leave the room when I'm doing this. You should have seen me like, oh, no, the pants are coming off again. Time to go. Going out. I mean, it is revenge porn.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Andy, are you reading another New York Times article on Dan? You know, my parents were off on that. Come on, you guys don't go to like Jets blogs and just read about how terrible their team is. Oh, I love going to the AFC. Oh, subreddits on Reddit.

Oh, I love doing that. Yeah, I mean, the Jets has bills to pay stuff. I like doing it after New York games, too. Yeah, after the victim and they're just so salty and beautiful. This team has no direction. Everyone sucks. The whole office is bullshit. Stam Darls.

Pretty good, though. To be fair, that's what the Patriot subreddit is like now. Yeah, it is interesting to see. It is interesting to see who the fans revolt on with like bad teams and like which players are allowed. Yeah, like in their graces. And there's always one that they're like, well, you know, you know, who doesn't suck the backup running back.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he just needs more playing time. Yeah, especially for the bills for some reason. They love their backup running back wherever it is. Yeah. And then they trade their backup running back or cut their backup running back, Danny Woodhead. And he goes to the Patriots and turns it to a stud.

Yeah. Oh, beautiful. God damn. That's our segue back into this game. I love it. All right, we just. So just give up. No, here's a here's a segue. Speaking of studs, Willie McGinnis is finally healthy.

This is yeah, it's part of the part of the the Boston Globe article stuff that reading and it fucking shows. He was every we had three batted balls. One of them was on fourth down, so blue fourth down version. They also had an offensive pass interference called like for him, like on him, because he dropped back in coverage. And I think it's like Wayne Corbett or someone like that tried to light him up as the passes in the air and got called for an offensive pass affairs,

which is great. So and then they were trying to block him on a screenplay and he got up so quickly that as Curtis Martin caught the ball, Willie McGinnis was already tackling him. He has it might be the worst screen I've ever seen. It was bad, but and he also had a sack in this game. I think he was the one that sacked Chad Pennington. I think Pennington was in by this point.

I believe so. There was a few sacks, but he was. I mean, we talked about it a little bit last week, too, where he was just kind of like. It was like watching Gronk play offense was watching Willie McGinnis by defense. He's like wading through people like he's playing with with like kindergartners and just like walking through and kind of pushing him out of the way just so he can get to the ball care.

He just he was unstoppable. He gets my game. Who do you guys like or shuffle? Say again, Steve, Willie, you're a high tower. That's a tough one. Willie for me. Willie came to mind at first, but you think about that plan Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, we had that big stop against the Colts in the playoffs.

Yeah. No, it wasn't the playoffs. Yeah, that's a good one down stop. Against the Colts in Indianapolis. Yeah, that's a big one, too. Yeah, Connor, who you got? McGinnis or high tower? Oh, it's so tough.

I was I was just about to didn't Willie I forget what Super Bowl was. He had like a game or maybe it was against Peyton in an AFC championship game. I mean, high towers just got a couple of those big, like huge plays in the Super Bowls. The stuff on Marshawn that led to the Malcolm Butler interception. Yeah. And then the the strip, the strip of Matt Ryan,

the strip of Matt Ryan that got recovered, that a part of that comeback against the Falcons. Yeah, yeah, he's just got some huge plays. But I think Willie, I think Willie was proud, I think Willie's isn't Willie's got a chance to go to the maybe not the regular Hall of Fame, but. Fuck, God, that's already in the Patriots. I'm going Willie. I'm going Willie.

I'm going Willie. Willie McGinnis set the record for those player playoff sacks, too. Really? Yeah. He's got 16 sacks in the playoffs. He also has most sacks in the playoff game with four and a half. Four and a half sacks in a playoff game. I think it was against the Jaguars. He set the records both.

He's spanned quite a 1994 to 2008, man. He had a great career. He did. I thought he was like done after that third Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. But no, he he still has. He's just a cool son of a bitch, too.

You know, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, some some players have that like cool factor. Yeah, Ty Law has it. He's got that swagger. Yeah. So Willie McGinnis had the. And you're McGinnis makes crucial play. Yeah, 2000 and the 2003 AFC playoffs against Aitlin. I mean, I think I dreamt a lot.

He stopped. He stopped Edger and James on the one yard line. I remember that play. That wasn't a playoff, was it? I thought that was just was it? Yeah, it was. Oh, it was a carry. Oh, a significant AFC play.

Yeah, I thought AFC playoffs seedings. Yeah, it was like first place in the AFC or something like that. But yeah, yeah. And it was it was in Indianapolis, too. Yeah, that was a huge play. Maybe we'll get him on. We should start tweeting. So much recency by.

So much recency by us, obviously, with Hightower. I mean, he's made some huge plays. Yeah, I think Willie was just a better in his prime was more dominant. Well, the issue with Hightower is like, I don't know, I feel like he's always sort of injured or he was there for a while. That's true. He is. Yeah. He I mean, Iron Man, you know, like that. Nap, dude, like.

And it's actually I'm looking at stats. It's from like this season on. He's just an absolute rock. Oh, my goodness. Sixteen, 16, 16, 14, 13, 14 games close out his career. Yeah, Hightower could never. He's had so many injuries, the chest.

He's only got one chest of all 16 games. But he's got Hightower years. I mean, Hightower has only played seven years to Willie's 12 in New England. So, you know, they still got time. Yeah. But yeah, I think at this point. I think it's real close. I think you're right. But I think it's just like the cost of even Terry.

Right. What do you want? Big plays or consistency? I think it's more not like we talked about with Dion Branch or David Patton. Yeah, like Patton like Branch has the numbers, but Patton has the more memorable plays that we decided. Oh, I fully agree with that. But I was on Dion. And I'm probably on Willie right now as well.

But I don't know, I live high. I think it's underrated and underappreciated. Same as Willie and this team here, you know? Yeah, I don't know if Willie was ever underappreciated, but I hear what you're saying. I think he had some injury knocks to him kind of around this time. Yeah, I think 2000, 2001, he didn't play a lot. He was going through a bunch of injuries.

And so people like because he was a high draft pick, wasn't he? He was like their first round draft pick that year. Yeah, he was draft same year as Bledsoe and they were both first. They were the top two because Bledsoe was first overall. I think they had another first round draft pick when they picked McGinnis as well. And of course, the two of them were, you know, we know what they turned out to be. Well, were they both like what, 94 or something? Yeah, 99. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, he was. Oh, he was drafted fourth overall in the first round. Yeah, the Patriots had. I can't. All right. So they weren't drafted the same year as Bledsoe. He was drafted fourth over 94. When was Bledsoe? 99. 93. You're right. OK, yeah. So Bledsoe was drafted 93 first overall.

And then 94 McGinnis was fourth overall because to show you how great the Patriots were back then. Yeah. And the Bengals picked Dan Wilkinson. That's true. Well, to be fair, the Redskins picked Heath Shuler, one pick before Willie McGinnis. Oops, I'm back. Oh, good. No, you were gone. You liar.

We're talking about Willie McGinnis, baby. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Did you know that Tom Brady and the Boxer playing Saints week one? Yes. In New Orleans, that would be fucking safe. It'd be sick if we weren't in a and I mean, if New Orleans and Bourbon Street was like regular Bourbon Street, I would borderline, maybe book a flight down there right now.

Yeah, week one. But if it's like, you know, only 15 to 20,000 fans out in the stadium and Bourbon Street shut down, I don't know, it might be fun if you were a Bucks fan. It's my it's my face. I am kind of an honorary Tom Brady fan. Come to fuck.

Connor's on my side in this argument of we're now Bucks fans. Now, I'm not about that. But after everything, Tom, after after everything, Tom Brady has not only given to the Patriots, but transforming New England into a city of champions and instilling that championship do everything it takes to win attitude across all of the Boston sports teams. I will follow Tom Brady into the fucking sunset on the last two years of his career.

OK, I mean, I don't care what anyone fucking thinks about me. We're going to look back on this and be like, hey, you remember how crazy it was that Tom Brady finished out the last two years of his career in Tampa Bay and won two Super Bowls? That was crazy. Yeah. And set all those records. Yeah, that's how I play. And I'm looking back on it. So me too.

Tom Brady is bigger than sports. I didn't say I was a Brady. I'm a Brady fan. He is Bucks guy. He's bigger than like regional alliances, you know, or regional fandoms. He's he's a deity, you know, I'm with Steve. You know, I agree. I'd be fine if if Brady threw for six thousand yards.

I yeah, I'd be fine if Brady threw for six thousand yards and the Bucks wouldn't have made any through for like 70 touchdowns. Jesus, dude, the Bucks are the Bucks are like the least problematic. It's like you really you you are against the seeing the Bucks do well. Tom Brady under center. Give me a fucking break. Yeah, they win. They win a Super Bowl that's going to you're going to be disappointed.

Why? Because the Pat's didn't win. Yeah, let him have one, dude. Why? You weren't saying that. Oh, seven when the Giants won. Yeah, now it's going against everything Connor just said about instilling winning culture in New England. Let him have a good point. Well, hey, if it's a guess what?

If it's Patriots Bucks in the Super Bowl, I'm cheering for the fucking Patriots. You know damn well, that isn't happening. OK, Patriots schedule just came out. We have the hardest schedule in Bill Belichick's career as the Patriots, the Patriots had coached. No, it is the it is. We have the toughest strength of schedule in the NFL this year

for the first time in season. Since it's been nothing, though, that means nothing, Connor. And you know that. Yeah. All right. Well, you can't tell. Yeah, I guess I'll fuck myself then. Jesus. Don't we play the. NFC West this year.

Yeah, yes. Dude, at Kansas City in October. Now it's tempting, maybe, depends on how the pads are doing, I think, back to back games in L.A. Also tempting. Yeah. That'd be that'd be sweet to go to both those games and just spend a week in California.

It's not like we're using our PTO on anything else right now, right? Oh, dude. One of them is a Thursday. Oh, there you go. Short week. Perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm still telling you, Patriots are going to squeak into the play. Oh, you know what's going to have?

They're going to squeak in as the seventh seed in the playoffs this year because they've expanded it and then they're going to go on to in the Super Bowl. It's wishful thinking. Calling it now. They're going to get hot at the right time. It all hinges on our boys stut them. Just like the 08 Patriots did when Brady went down. They got hot right at the end.

But if there was a seven seed, they would have got in and they would have rolled. Because I was here that they beat the shit out of the Cardinals who went to the Super Bowl. Calling it now. I disagree. OK, I would like to see them do well. But doesn't sound like it. I wouldn't mind a tank. A tanking season would be all right for me.

The I don't think we're going to do the strategic tank. I've been talking. I've been talking about this. We're building an elite defense and we're going to average four points a game on offense. Yep. Then get Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, I don't even know about that. I just think I I mean, I hope so. I think I mean, I've kind of drank the Kool-Aid and Trevor Lawrence. I think he's going to be really good.

But you get I mean, the writing's on the wall, right? We haven't added one premiere offense of weapon. Outside of the A.B. Experience experiment last year, we haven't added one premiere offense of weapon and basically two years now. They've drafted an offense of weapon in the first round of the last two drafts. Yeah, but you can't look at this roster. Sony Sony in like week three, Sony, Sony.

Sony, Michelle is not an offensive weapon. I'm talking about a premier offensive weapon. What's about drafting one? Steve's going to be upset with that. I know Steve. As a little cross on what Sony was so Sony, Michelle fucking Lawrence Maroney dancing the whole three two dot oh. No way, dude.

He has no burst. Last year was I mean, it was glaring how little burst he has. You know what I'm looking forward to? Eleven one o'clock or four o'clock games. Oh, nice. I am as well. I always like you really. So you guys aren't big.

See, I'm in so many fantasy leagues. I I always appreciated that. That they were well, not like a not like an absurd amount, but I always appreciated that they were the later games so I could watch Red Zone for all the one o'clock games. That's a good point. And then when they came so when they came in on, you know, like the four o'clock game, it's like, hey, I got to watch

like all my players on Red Zone. Now I get to settle in for the Patriots. Only three of those 11 are four o'clock. Yeah. And the other four o'clock are my favorite. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because you can watch the one o'clock and then you watch the Pats and then you just like fall,

sleep in front of the night game. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Not worse than staying up on a fucking Monday. Oh, God, a Sunday night game at Seattle. Oh, I like that one. I like that one. Oh, God. I heard Seattle is a nice city to visit.

It's all right. Why you say that, Andy? The city's fine, but I'd go outside the city if I were to go there. I guess. Oh, yeah. No, it's nice outside. They got a bunch of hiking and shit. Yeah, I mean, that that's all falls within visiting a city. All right. All right.

Let's stop talking about the goddamn Pacific. You know what I've heard is really nice has been Cooper. It's overrated. But for real, I've heard you give out game balls and the best of worst thing. And I was supposed to do some best of worst here. All right. And then once we're not live, let's talk about this schedule some more.

OK, Steve, give me your best and worst here. Besides the things we haven't talked about. And again, I'm really happy I watched this game all the way to the end, just like that Steelers game. The last kick return from the Jets. The dude, the returner comes like he does a pretty good return. He comes flying through and he runs into Pepper Johnson, who just lays him out like instinctively.

He just puts him on his ass. Former jet linebacker, no less Pepper Johnson. Yeah. And like a 20 years younger than we know now, Pepper Johnson. So yeah, he was like, you just sat him down. It was awesome. Yeah, that was a great. And then that that play also got hit that great kick return.

Also got called back for holding. It's like a medium count. He did have a little like smirk on his face when he did it, too. Oh, God, yeah, exactly. He's like strutting down the sideline. Yeah. He's a man. The worst was the like replays in the first half.

I don't I forget why it might have been even the first game where they had to go replay counter, like how long it was taking them to do it. Oh, yeah, they did it at a timer. But on one, I was like, I was hitting the 10 second fast forward. I clicked it six times. I got to the point where I was like, I need to fast forward this. And I clicked it six times and they still hadn't come out of the decision. And then I looked because lit by half.

The second half was 15 minutes shorter. Yeah, because of that one. And that was just like whether or not it was the first down, too. Yeah. And it was it was blatantly not a first down. He was you're short by two. Ladies. Oh, that's that's why I can't watch these games.

Like rewatch the whole thing. Even like it's like two and a half hours. Yeah. And then like you're sitting through shit like that. And it's like those compact games are awesome that they do now. Oh, yeah, you got where they're like 45 minutes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's just a play after play after play. That's great.

We'll get there in 2009, I think, currently so far back they go. Oh, also, just a fun fact. I saw the first fantasy football ad. Oh, really interesting. Yeah, for AOL fantasy football. I've been like waiting for this to come up. And I can't believe it is this early. You know what? I haven't played.

But I wasn't going to play fancy football this year. But if there's AOL fantasy football still going, we're all doing it. We're all why. Why weren't you going to do it, Andy? I don't know. I'm still done with fancy football. I feel like what? Why? Greg's clearly invested here. Yeah, I just you've always been a big fantasy guy.

I'm wondering what changed a couple of things. I've been playing it for probably it's called 20 years and I've never won once. So I realize I'm never good at it. This includes leagues where I was living, me and Mike Mello together. And I never won. I appreciate the honesty. There's other leagues where I've actually cheated and I still lost in the finals. This AOL league ad that I saw was 18 years ago.

All right. So, yeah, it was about that long ago. You were an early adopter of fantasy. I remember that. I was. Yeah. And also, I just feel like it's made me watch football games differently. I'm not watching it for the joy. I'm watching it for my fantasy football team. I get that my player doesn't score a touchdown. I get all pissy. Yeah.

I'm all done with that. So the worst is watching games with people that are like that. Yeah. Oh, God, don't throw it to him. Throw it to my guy. And it's like, yeah, especially if you're invested in the game, like it's a bad game or something. Yeah, exactly. Or even when it's a bad game and you have like somebody on the other team

and you're kind of like having that sort of inner battle of cool that the page is losing, but my guy just scored. I'm winning my fucking fans probably like it matters. Yeah, I'm going to put someone on blast right now. And you could probably guess who it is. The fantasy guy. It's Mark Frattarelli, obviously. Yes.

I thought it was me, too. Yeah, I can see Mark being like that. Oh, yeah. Connor, are you a big fantasy guy? Yeah, I love it. I love it. I try not to, you know, I don't let it sway me when I'm watching the Pats. I'm not like, I don't care who scores for the Patriots,

even if I have certain Patriots on my team. But like, I really love the one o'clock red zone. That's why when the Pats are just like, you know, always one of the top teams are always in prime time. I really enjoy that. And I, yeah, I love fantasy. I think the only reason I actually did fantasy for so long was because I would run my own league and it just gave me an excuse

to abuse all my friends. Yeah, I have this. It was like, it was, it was, it was the worst leagues ever, but also like very entertaining. Yeah, the banter was great, but like the structure of the league, you would never use like ESPN.com. You'd like have some like fucking website. You develop yourself like that one kick for Turner's thing.

You'd be like, oh, we got three quarterbacks. It's like, dude, Andy, keep it simple. No way. The newsletters, yeah, the commissioner newsletters are always funny. Yeah, they were. Yeah, that was a good time. Yeah, the only reason I did it was to shit on all my friends on a weekly basis. And now we have this and now we have this.

So yeah, I can just do it to you in real time. And so it's been even better. So I don't need fancy football anymore. I'm in it for team names. Anyways, the team. Yeah, that's true. All right, Greg, give us your best and worst. All right.

So best. I think is week two. Sunday night game at Seattle. And then worst week 12 at Houston. What a shitty city. No one wants to go there. Jesus Christ. Yes.

Yes, I am fully involved in the schedule. No, that's been released. Yeah, it sounds like it. All right, Con, what about you? Are we talking about the best and the worst from the from this game in the rest of us? Are you guys meant? Yeah. So again, I was the best.

I was just going to say the Patriots difference as a whole. I don't know if it was completely them or. Just like Bill Belichick's game play because I was just like no one stood out in terms of like, oh, holy shit, this guy had 10 tackles, you know, like everyone, you know, it was just like it was a scheme. It was a game plan and our defense just suffocated the jets. We we we got up big early on offense and I don't know. We just knew exactly what they were going to do.

They were playing from behind. Our defense was never let up either. Yeah, they didn't special team special teams was great too, obviously. And then the worst, it's tough to say. I think I mentioned it earlier, but I guess it goes hand in hand. How a team can go until deep into the third quarter without having a first down when they're projected to be the favorites is just pathetic. That's bad.

It really is. Also. Also, I wanted to. I don't know if you guys heard Tom Brady's interview. At the end of this game. Oh, yeah, let me know if you can hear me. Can you can you hear this? No, I think you have to you have to share the screen with with audio. I get to show you a share computer sound checkbox.

OK. Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, I got. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. What is going on? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. What was that? It was awesome. It was a feedback loop created by the speakers getting picked up by the microphone. That was awesome.

It's techno. OK, we're not going to do that because that was a nightmare. I was like, I don't know what the hell that was. But that was awesome. My God. This is like, you know, catchy tune. They'll just say repeat what he said on it because I picked up on that too. He was just talking about how he's like, you know, a little bit of disrespect

and they've got a chip on their shoulder now. And I fucking loved it. They're just like it puts a chip on their shoulder. You could just see little glimpses into, you know, the fire that Tom Brady has. God, he's so goofy looking. I don't know who said it last week. He's, you know, these early days, Tom Brady's are he is goofy looking how, you know, swab he is now and how much more chiseled his jaw is.

But yeah, it's a bunch in Brady. He's got the hair flick. Remember that, like the hair, the ramp, the ramp on the front of your head. Yeah, he has the ramp. Yeah. So he, I just kind of liked, I just kind of liked what he said afterwards. He was, he wasn't braggadocious. He was just kind of humble, but he was like, yep, we're, we see everything

you guys are saying and it pisses us off. And yeah, we use it as motivation. I don't know. I love me some Tom, you know that. It is, it is. And that's, there's always a little chip on our shoulder. You know, I think every time we go out, you know, we realize we have to prove it, but you know, you're only as good as your last performance, you know,

respect does it. If I'm going to go to him, we didn't respect last year. And if we didn't, then I guess people are just, like I said, just too eager into, you know, just too soon to get to that. Yeah. Oh yeah. It was kind of, it's pretty forceful where it's too ignorant or too stupid to realize it.

I was like, okay. Yeah. All right, Tommy. Yeah. But he looks like a 12 year old when he says it. Yeah. We're in, he's got the tie on. Yep.

I, I enjoyed that. Early doors like that. Same, same type of stuff he says now. He's like, yo, we're, we're winning world championships. All I care about as like a second year player. I dig that he's just foreshadowing. All right. Yep.

That's all I got. It was basically, I mean, pretty straight forward. Pat's defense was the best. Uh, Pat's defense, Tom Brady's interview and then the Jets offense. My God. First one first down late in the third quarter. That's a, a Paulyne. He tested birdie.

I told you, he sucks. He sucks. Vinny tested birdie. Play for 20 years and sucked every single one of them. Oh, green head. Remember that, Steve? Oh, he did the live Spanish to English translation. All right, Andy, you're on mute, bud.

Oh, that was, he's better. Yeah. Yeah. I have, I have been on movies the whole time talking to you guys. All right, great. Yeah, it was nice. I, I do that all the time on conference calls. Yeah.

Like, why don't these motherfuckers listen to me? Assholes. Yeah. All right. Uh, my worst going to play off of Connors, um, is the Jets offense. They had 18 plays in the first half. Uh, the Patriots had a drive to end the first half that went 19 plays. So that's not good.

Um, and we kind of touched on this before where Matt Turk, the punter, was a leading rusher, but it actually gets worse than that. He, he led the team in rushing with 14 yards in one run. Their second leading rusher was backup quarterback Chad Pennington, who had one run for nine yards. Hmm. Um, the, the Jets looking for, no, the Jets running back as a committee had four or five, six rushes for nine yards.

Hey, Andy, it's not about stats. All right. You play to win the game. That's why they wore their white jerseys. That's this year. Oh, that's this year. Herm Edwards. Yeah.

Nice. Cause last year actually, I don't even think we touched on it, but, um, the, the playoffs, that quote last year, that was, that was the Colts last year because they couldn't stop throwing interceptions. I'll be surprised if we win another game. Yeah. So this is, this is. Yeah, we'll probably touch on it.

Yeah. They go two and five to start this year. And that's when a old Hermi boy loses it. I can see that. Um, my best was that this was one of the biggest beatings that the pages are ever given to the Jets up to this point. Oh, you want a second? I got it.

Yeah. The first biggest one, 1979. It was. Yeah. Oh. What was the score? Fucking rain, man. What was the score?

56, nothing. 56 to three. Ah, how did you know that? Did you read it too? Fucking rain, man, Andy. Well, we know that's not true, but we all because I clipped out the same. Yeah, exactly. I clipped it out of the newspaper when I was 12 years old and I put it in a

scrapbook and then I read it today in my scrapbook. So I clipped it out from my internet scrapbook today at the ripe old age of 37 years old. Um, that's the difference. That's the difference. This is true. I was scrapbooking at 12, you're doing it at 35. Same maturity.

About, yeah, I just still haven't grown up yet. Maybe when I'm 40. It felt like, like the butthole game for me though. I was watching it and I was like, man, I can't believe I forgot this game based on how much I hate the Jets and how much I enjoyed that but fumble game. These are like right on this part for me. Yeah. And this is kind of it's because it's.

Good. I was just going to contend that, yeah, I've never liked the Jets, but I think the real Jets hatred came during the Rex Ryan era. So I think the but fumble game was much more enjoyable. Like obviously they're New York. You're like, fuck New York, but really the, the disdain for the Jets came during the Rex Ryan era, in my opinion. You think so?

At least during the, at least during the early dynasty. Yeah. During the early years of the dynasty. See, I thought it was this era was what really got defined. Parcells in Martin. Yeah, especially because of the Yankees stuff that was going on at the same time. You kind of like had the Jets and Yankees as like one entity. Yeah.

I guess it came to a crescendo. Is that the word? And yeah, yeah, and apex went yet when all peaking during the Rex the Rex era. Well, man, I mean, you got the man genie incident to spy. OK, two, two, two, Shay, two. Yeah. Yeah, I think there were like peaks as well. I think there were peaks all all across that.

Yeah, because right now I don't. I don't get any like I don't get my rocks off when the Pats beat the Jets these days, you know? No, and same with like the Herm Edwards era, too. Like I didn't really care. Oh, I feel the exact opposite. I love watching the Patriots beat the fuck out of the Jets. The Rex. Like, man, do you live in that game?

That's my valley. These are my eggs. Steve Brown was touching himself to use his ball handling to the shots of Curtis Martin standing on the sidelines looking for Lorne. Yes. Staring into the abyss like this is my life now. I mean, I've got the Jets. He just just won the fucking Super Bowl.

If I'd stayed there, I could be a Super Bowl champion right now. That's a good point, Steve. That's a good point. It is. The one thing I did want to throw out there for you boys is when the Patriots blow out the Jets, they lose either they don't make the playoffs or they lose in the playoffs in heartbreaking fashion. I think of that like like 1979 and 76 and 78 79. They didn't they didn't make the playoffs 88.

They didn't make the playoffs 2002. This year, what happens? They win this. Oh, spoiler alert. And then also don't forget. 2010 Patriots beat the Jets 45 to three. If you remember that game. Yeah, when Rex Ryan almost cried and how that season ends.

Yeah, I know as a game. I was that right. And the worst part, the worst part about that game is I sat in traffic and like took me like three hours, four hours to get back to Salem, New Hampshire. And I dropped Mark off at his house and then I backed into his garage door. Oh, that was that. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, it was a tough day.

That's rough. Yeah. Oh, boy. Well, yeah, I can't stop that. Well, you want to you want to stat here to to wrap us up? Give me a stat to wrap this up. After this game, Tom Brady in his career is 16 and three as a starter. This is true.

Nice, pretty, pretty amazing. It is. Yeah, they won. It was that was their 11th straight straight win. Eighth straight regular season game. Yeah, they had lost in a long time. They hadn't lost since November 18th of the year before. An underdog wagon, too.

Like, how do you look at that? And be like, yeah, no, Jets by one. It was Bob Ryan admitted defeat. Yeah, Boston Globe. That's so. Yeah, he likes to J.E.T. Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets. Yeah.

Told everyone who asked me and plenty who didn't. What was I thinking? What do you think of Bob Ryan, Andy? Ah, he's all right. Hey, he's no Jackie McMullin, you know. Yeah, not many people are Jack Mack, but I will not stand for any Bob Ryan slander. Slander shank all you want.

Do not do not slander Bob. Do not slander Bob Ryan. I agree. He's a little old and a little old and decrepit. He's been a little old and decrepit for the last 30 years. OK, he is a very, very old man. I he's one of the best writers I've ever seen. So I love Bob Ryan, too. Me, too.

We've been on the same side a lot today, Connor. I'm a little worried. Are you sure? I know, yeah. I know it's not typical. No. That's putting it lightly. Yeah, in fact, I'm starting to question my own, like. I don't know, brain, brain, yeah, brain function, you know, like.

Are you having a stroke? Yeah, that's what I'm that's what I'm considering. Because I know that Connor, like Connor acts like a stroke victim. So. Some that's only at Herman Island after I've been like drinking for seven straight days. I can't sometimes put together a full sentence. Give me a fucking break.

Are you on Herman Island now? No, I feel like I've done OK. I feel like I've done OK tonight. Yes, I agree. I've got the smartest brown of the bunch agreeing with my every word. So I think I'm doing OK. I have not agreed with anything you've said. Yeah, even Greg doesn't agree with that.

My great, my great is getting deeper. Who is the smartest brown? Well, seriously, I would. Prior to like the last two hours, I would have said me, but now I'm like. Trick question to make everything. Yeah, that's true. Mick Brown trick questions. Ellie for not being on this podcast.

Yeah, Ellie. Although she also lives in Brooklyn with three small children. So yeah, it's probably the honor, you know, if we're putting potential in there. It's probably Ziggy. Rest in peace. All right. So on that note, as I can see, this is on unraveling quickly. We will be back next week for a bond burner.

Bad man, Patson chiefs. The game for ages that I don't even remember. I'm looking forward to watching it. I think this should be a good one. So we will who the hell remembers early 2000 chiefs. I'm just excited to dig through the notes and the game. Dick Vermeel. Oh, Dick.

I know. I know the coach. It's Trent Green. He's home. Save it for today. Yeah, I'm just I'm just wet in the appetites of our listeners. Yeah, I mean, how am I going to fall asleep tonight? No, and I got fucking Dick Vermeel and Trent Green.

Well, you're not going to fall asleep on your stomach. Are you on your back with Dick on the ground? Yeah, jokes on you. I cut a hole in my mattress. It's a very small one. You didn't actually need to. We just did it. And on that note, we will see you next week on the Patriots Dynasty podcast.

See you later, guys. Have a good one, boys. Sayonara.