Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2002 Week 3: Patriots vs Chiefs

Episode Date: July 7, 2020

Watchability Score: 5/6 LombardisThat's right, we now have a method to rate the rewatching of these games! And this one didn't disappoint (well, the 2nd half at least). Join the brothers for the following:Greg learns a new word: "luddite"Troy Brown vs Wes Welker vs Julian EdelmanGino Cappelletti deep diveSmack vs spankAndy's learned a new trick: game audio!Greg does a deep dive into Dante Hall NFL player mentions in rap lyricsSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Hi, welcome. Welcome back to the Pages Dynasty football. You know what? I can't do this with video on. I can't walk. We're going to start this over. Welcome back to the Pages Dynasty podcast, 2002, still trucking along in the good times, 2002. Andy, why do you think it's welcome back? This could be the first episode they listened

to. We've been over this in earlier episodes. If you're if you're just starting here, I don't know what to tell you. I mean, I was starting at one episode. It would be week three versus the chiefs in 2002. I mean, to be fair, this is a pretty good one off game. So if you're here just for the one off game and you remember this, then congrats to you. I would go 2001. What about our Spanish listeners? Steve has when he went to Mexico, he came back with some with some Spanish stuff that he learned. Yeah, well, everything I know about Spanish I learned from dad. Anyways, we already covered that. We should do an episode in Spanish. No, we shouldn't.

Fucking see, you know, it's the same. Well, I took German, so I'll do a German and you guys can do it in Spanish. Muy bien. El partido was muy bueno. Dos cervezas por favor. This game actually was pretty good. This game was amazing. The second half of this game was amazing. It was. It was a lot like, I don't remember this game, but it's definitely worth a watch. Yeah. So here's something I wanted to do. I figured we should start the game with like a watchability score because some of these game we're going through all of them and some of these not so great. There's been some losses to the Dolphins

in Miami back in the 01 season that we definitely that would probably be at the zero on the, I don't know what scale would we do to one out of six Lombardies? Oh, is that too much of a tick measuring contest? Well, we haven't. I mean, we're going to win more than six Lombardies. So that's just a artificial because it could be 10 in three years, you know, it could. But for now, we could always increase it. But I think for now, in terms of watchability, should we do one through six? I mean, we should scale it on like coaches, you know, like what coach what coaches teams are the most fun to watch? Like Mike, Mark, like Mart's is great to watch. You know,

Andy Reed, usually pretty good to watch. Good call. Jim Harbaugh games are usually entertaining, the very least. Yeah. Yeah. But not all. I like the one through six. Mike Malarkey. Well, they're entertaining if you enjoy Pat's blowouts. Yeah, I would I would say I'll put Dick for meal games in that because as well as he could coach offense, he's that bad at coaching a defense big dick. So I think the the chiefs in this this season will go eight and eight, but they would lead the the league in scoring and would be like 30th in you're going to steal my scouting report already. Oh, all right. Yeah, let's do that. You haven't actually decided on a watchability score. Let's go one through six Lombardi's, Andy. That's six. It definitely isn't

six. Well, actually, no, let's call it a five because you can't. Okay. Yeah. A five and only watch the second half, I would say. Well, five Lombardi's and AFC championship. So five point five. Okay. I like it. Yeah. Is it as an AFC championship trophy? Is that even a half though? I mean, yeah. And then AFC East is a point two five. Okay. All right. So we'll give this a five point five because I think there's still like maybe two marginal steps up, you know, if it wasn't week three, I would, I would even go a hard five. I think there was some sloppiness in this game. It was entertaining, but you're right. Billion penalties. Yeah. Well, I didn't actually watch it. So I'm going to let you guys get the score. Let's start the score out. I am.

I am shocked and appalled. Yeah. All right. So the score of this one for those who can actually count that high was in overtime, no less, 41 38 New England Patriots, your New England Patriots over the Chiefs, which is pretty impressive considering the game was a 10 to nine Chiefs at the, at the half. So the second half was, yeah, an absolute bon burner. But Greg, tell us a bit about the Chiefs. Sure. Your scouting reports. Well, like you said, Andy, this team was as about as lopsided from offense to defense as it comes. They were on offense this year. They were first in points and fourth in yards. And on defense, they were 28, 10 points allowed and 32nd dead last in yards. Yeah. According to wikipedia.com, it's the second largest offense

to defense imbalance in what's that 20 from 1992 to 2010. Holy shit. So almost the first years. Yeah. 1992 Seattle Seahawks, I guess. Wow. Bit before my time, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if you look at the, so Dick Vermeel's head coach, if you look at the rosters, it makes sense too. So the offense Trent Green quarterback, Priest Holmes, Dante Hall, Tony Gonzalez. So yeah. Dude, their offensive line stacked as well. Yeah. Willie Rowe from Willshields. And Brian Waters, our Winters. Oh, yeah. Willie Rowe is an all time name. Yeah. Especially for a line. But yeah. Yeah. Did Berman have a nickname for him? I feel like he would have. Probably. Probably Willie Pot Rowe. Willie Rowe. I like it, Steve. But if you look at their

defense, like, there's literally not a single name I recognize. Yeah. I think defense is is is is putting it generously. These guys are fucking nobodies. My favorite was all time name. Mike Mozlowski. Mozlowski. Do you recognize him? He had 125 tackles that year. I just confused him with Mike Wozowski from Monster's Inc. I have Ray Crockett. Why do I know Ray Crockett's name? You're thinking of Betty Crockett. No. Is he like a defense player or something? Yeah, I think I feel like he played in a different team and I knew his name. He was there. So I played for Denver for a long time. I mean, I recognize so I reckon

Clemens that I don't even recognize him. Yeah. I didn't know anyone in their defense besides him. No, you're thinking of a heat is Andy Patton. It's just monster with a Ren V thrown in it. Monty Beisel, didn't he play for the Pats badly for a few years? I feel like, yeah, he was a name as well. Oh, for one year. Like he was on special teams. 2005. Yep. They had Morton Anderson. Kicker. Again, with that Hardo face mask. It goes straight out of like the 19 the from the one from the 1970s. I don't think that's hard when it first came in the league. Oh, yeah.

He's like, I'm keeping this face. The opposite of Hardo. All right. Want me to continue my my scut. I think that's all I had. Oh, wait. Pats finally are favorited in a game here. They're eight and a half point favorites going over under 43 and a half. So I gotta go and I hope you bet the over. My internet's fucked. Oh, is that maybe we can turn video back on? I thought only Greg had computer problems. Wasn't that remember that Steve? Is it not? Is that maybe we can turn a video back on? Did I send you that Snapchat from last night with my ear painted? No. Maybe I haven't checked my Snapchat very frequently.

Oh, you should. I've been sending you a bunch of ridiculous snapshots. Oh, here we go. Oh, that's gross. I got it. That's pretty gross. Did you, uh, did you see my Snapchat story right now? No, check that should. Oh, I'll give you the caption. It's called Pound Town USA. Should I watch this? Yeah. Let's bugs be fucking going at it and making more bugs. It's bug porn. It's like that movie Bugs Life or that movie ants if they were fucking each other. Yeah. What the fuck? All right.

Did I can't, I don't know how you have the mustache over your lip, Greg. That's insane. I would drive you nuts. Yeah, it's wicked gross, but the fact that Kelly yeah, Kelly hates it. So I leave it. I would drive me nuts. Like I play with my beard hair. And my, my hair's getting so long and twirl it like constantly. Oh, God. Yeah. Yeah, you can. Yeah, that's enough of that. It's so fucking gross. All right. Looking good, Greg. All right. Hey, buzz. What about as dumb as your fucking profile pic bro? Cool, bro. Looks like someone outlined your head in a marker. Cool, bro. All right. Let's talk football. Let's talk some football. All right.

Steve, you want to tell me about this game? Well, I don't know how much Dick Broneal saw because it looked like he was squinting the whole time with like his teeth, you know, like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sucking his teeth. Yeah. I just, it took me a while to get over that. It does. Can you describe that for our listeners the best way you can? Because I just saw it on video and it makes sense. Yeah. Like when you squint, right? You generally like, you kind of like pull your cheeks up a little bit. It's like a half smile, but he would just like let the lips go over like all the way over his teeth, show his gums and everything the whole time. Yeah. His teeth are sticking out. I mean, if you think picture Dick Broneal and just like

him squinting with his teeth sticking out and you'll know exactly what we're talking about. I feel like it's like a horse who's got peanut butter in his mouth. He's like, he's pulling his lips all the way back. Yeah, it's like that. But I like he that's the defining picture in my head of him, though, before all this. I feel like it's his natural face. Yeah. With the squint, you've never seen him in like a rain game. He's always, it's like super sunny. Maybe it's just so bad. This like sucking a lemon is watching his defense play. He's not that bad. God, he's such a white person, though. So what if you just Google Dick for a meal? It's like this guy, this guy is the whitest human lie. He's like, well, my wife dresses

me, you know, she's got a good sense of style. I have a lot of collared pullovers, but I hang them up in the hangers because I don't want them to get wrinkled. I like the vest because my core stays warm, but my arms, you know, they're still nice and cool. I like to be able to move around a lot. It's enough. You don't like our dick for meal impressions? No. Oh, I have some audio of dick for meal because he was apparently super pissed about the injury situation. Are you talking about that halftime? Like as he's walking off? Yeah. So as he's walking off, our favorite Bonnie Bernstein. Bonnie? Yeah, yeah. She wanted to go interview him real quick. And so she said, she was like, ask him about it because there was a bunch of injuries to their

defensive backs. Play that recklessly. Let's go to Bonnie Bernstein. I don't know the count problem. Safe to say this might be a sticky situation. We have a serious problem. And how do you deal with it? Well, we try to get the 46 man rule changed so the players we have on our roster can shoot up and play. That's the number one way we deal with it, but we don't. So we'll try to get a safety rate to play and help us out there. But it's a problem right now. Hopefully the procket can come back and play. All right, coach. Thanks. What was he so mad about? Not being able to rest. Yeah, I think he, they had some injuries late in the week in terms of defensive backs and then Crockett went out. He got hurt. I think he came

back eventually. His calf got stepped on or something, but so they were like, they didn't have enough cornerbacks to suit up. Probably why you saw an explosion of points in the second half. That makes sense. Is Bonnie still around these days? Great question. Stat check. I'm a big fan of Bonnie. Yeah, she was great. Let's see if she's still great. And also, why were we? Maybe she likes half-beards, Craig. Oh, here we go. She has been named one of the, one of the most accomplished female sportscasters in history. What does that mean?

One of that could be like one of like 500, you know? She's on the list though. I mean, none of us can say that. I don't know. I mean, I guess, this game was brutal in the first half. Like Andy said, I had five Patriots penalties in the first five minutes, seven in the first 10 minutes, and then Brady threw a pick right after that. Yeah. So the Patriots had more penalty yards and offensive yards at one point. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. At halftime, the Patriots had nine penalties for 80 yards and the Chiefs as a team had less than 80 total yards gained.

But one of them was a pretty good back shoulder throw from Trent Green for that touchdown. It's only a good throw. Yeah. A legend. But yeah, if you are going to watch this, skip it the whole first half. Actually, no, no, no. Watch that Kevin Falk wheel route touchdown. Oh, that was pretty good. That was an absolutely perfect ball from Brady. Hit him. What you can do is you can go to the Patriots Dynasty website. Patriots Dynasty audio. Flash game slash 69. You can watch the the Falk highlight

in the highlight section and then go back and watch the full game, the full second half. Why is it games 69? It's just a randomly generated number. It's the 69th piece of content created on the website. That's all. It just happened to be this game. So it worked out well for us. Of course. Yes. Perfect. Why didn't I guess that? Because you're not a nerd, Gregory. Well, you see, it's a series of ones and zeros. It's a fucking number. Doesn't mean anything. It's just there. Shut up nerd. I don't want to hear it. You fucking nerd. Fucking Luddite.

Luddite. Is that you call it? Yeah. Yeah, I called you a fucking Luddite. Let me Google that. Got to figure out how offended you are. A person, a Luddite, it says derogatory, a person opposed to new technology or ways of working. You want to hear it in a sentence? Please. I think I just used the sentence. But yes, please. Greg, you're a fucking Luddite. A small minded Luddite resisting progress. Oh, there's a historical definition.

A member of any of the bands of English workers who destroyed machinery, especially in cotton and woolen mills, that they believed was threatening their jobs, 1811 through 1816. Yeah, the Luddites. The Luddites of England. I hate cotton machines. And you know what? I hate more than cotton machines, woolen. Cotton and woolen. Yeah, that's too much technology for me. If that makes me a Luddite, then god damn it, I'm a Luddite.

Yeah, I'm taking this one off the rails here, boys. Oh, yeah, here. I don't know. Let's get back on track. I'm gonna bring it right back on track. You ready for this? Speaking of Luddites, how about these commentators? I thought they were good, ish. Diodorf wasn't as bad as I remembered. With some exceptions. There's Diodorf and Dick Emberg.

I mean, they're atrocious. Now that I figured out how to do audio, like import audio into this, I've got a couple clips. I've got one for Dick Emberg. That's cool. And I just want to set the scene that it was a quick bubble screen to Deon Branch that went for a couple yards. But this is how it sounded on the television broadcast. Look at this technology.

And being a Luddite. That's for a first time. That's a great replay. A little flanker screen. No, it's to Antoine Smith, who was, make it Kevin Faulk, who was flanked out there. Was it Deon? Deon Branch, it was. Hidden in the crowd of big...

And just for the record, if you were watching that, it was clearly showing Deon Branch the entire time. Wow. Completely emblazoned. To his defense, all those guys have a three in their number. Technically, yeah. Yeah. One's about a foot taller than the other.

Yeah. And Antoine Smith never lines up at wide receiver. But they do all have threes in it. I will say, though, they had a sweet golf reference. So I was all about that. What was it? It was on a punt in the second quarter. I forget even punted it, but he hit it at the one and had a little backspin on it.

Walter. Yeah. And Walter. Yeah. I forget his reference was, but I had my own. I was like, he should call it a KV-1 ball. Something about a sand wedge in his, his sandwich doesn't do that. Yeah.

Maybe the punter was using a KV-1. No. Sure. What's that? Pro V1, never mind. The K ball. I have a pro V1. What's a KV-1?

You know, that, that joke's too high class for you guys. What's a sand wedge? You want to hear some funny, Steve, is I have, I've had a sleeve of pro V1s for about two years that I am unwilling to use because I know I'm just going to put them in the woods. So it just sits there in my back. And I just, every time. Yeah.

And I just slice away on my range balls. So yeah, I think I've golfed with you boys once, maybe twice. And I've actually left the golf course with more balls than I came with because I just use whatever I can find. I hit a ball in a certain direction and I was going to find whatever ball is out there in the woods. And then I use that one. The last time me and Greg played together, Greg just took some range balls onto the course with him. And then we got matched up with a member.

And that guy was like, you're using the range balls? Greg's like, yeah, whatever. So that guy spent the next two holes just like walking through the woods, tossing out balls for Greg to use. He didn't hit a single shot. He would, he would get in his car and he would drive it around to where my first shot landed and just like drop two real balls next to mine and just keep driving. He was the best.

He's like the tooth fairy for like real golf balls. Well, once we got past that snoozer first quarter, second quarter, second half was awesome. Things really picked up. They did. Yeah. Even the third quarter wasn't like crazy, but it was kind of starting to get there. I don't know.

Dude, the third quarter had my favorite moment, the whole game. All right, which one was that? Well, the chief scored that touchdown, right? So they're up. Yeah. And then this was like the Troy Brown drive where Brady just like, they started playing zone and Brady just goes Troy. Troy, he goes four in a row to Troy Brown.

And then five in a row. Well, then the fifth one was the touchdown where like Brady was getting blown up. He knew he was going to take a hit and he just like throws it to the corner of the end zone because he just knows that Troy is going to see the same shit he sees and go to the spot. Like he threw it to a spot, not even to Troy. And Troy made a sick ass sliding dive and catch. Yeah. That's awesome.

I wish you could arguably say this is Troy Brown's like best game. I would think that's right up there with the Steelers AC championship one. Yeah. This one from a productive standpoint was better, like an offensive. And you got hurt too with like in the third or early fourth quarter. Yeah. And didn't come back. That's actually true.

I thought he could come back. Yeah. Oh, there's that. Oh, this top. Yeah. And over time, like, oh, Troy Brown's back from his injury and it was. I was like, yeah. I did.

I was like, no, that's not Troy. This is what I mean. Yeah. That was pretty bad. At one point I was getting all worked out and I was getting kind of like nervous that Deidor from Emberg weren't as bad as I thought they were. No, I remember this correctly. They were that bad.

Yeah. Troy Brown ended the day with a team record 16 catches for 176 yards, which today is still 10th all time on the Patriots in terms of yards. It's still first in terms of catches. Took about a PPR game, huh? Jesus. Okay. So that's 16 catches still stands.

It's like better than Welker or anybody. He's tied for first in catches. Yes. Welker. Yeah. What game was that? Give us a clue. Is it a big game against Buffalo in Buffalo?

Yeah. Did I get it? Final score. They they won that. No, they lost that game. That's the one where. Fred Jackson had that run that put Buffalo in field. Like they went up 21-0 and then they ended up losing the 34-31 because I think that was

what's his name from Harvard, from Harvard. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah, thank you. It was a Ryan Fitzpatrick game where he started the game throwing three interceptions and then turned around and still like threw four touchdowns. I love Fitzpatrick. He's the best. But was Welker in that game, which I'm excited to get to now that I know this,

16 catches 217 yards and two touchdowns. Yeah. We got Brown, Welker, Edelman, like rank them. Because they all made the same. I like kind of have a sour taste to my most about about Welker. A lot of people do because of his drop in the Super Bowl and the fact they never actually won. Yeah. I mean, Troy Brown's having number one.

Yeah. What are we ranking this off of? How much we like the guys? Because Troy Brown is definitely number one if that's the case. Yeah. In their prime, who you got? Who would you like pick? Troy Brown.

In their prime, probably Welker to be honest. His numbers are... Yeah, he benefited from Randy Moss too. True. But he was also doing shit on his own as well. And that offense was like running gun. That's when they were running that hurry up. And they were getting off like 75-95 plays a game.

Yeah. This Buffalo game was in 2011. So it's not like it was just with him. Here's a knock on Welker though. No special teams like Troy and Julian definitely had impacts as punt returners. Welker used to return puns, but then I think because he was so valuable to the offense, they had elements are doing instead. And I remember when they made the switch and I thought element wasn't as good.

Also a knock on Welker is his face kind of looks like dumb. You know, he's got to get dumb face. That's true. Yeah, like Julian obviously a beautiful looking man. Even Troy Brown, like he's kind of a normal looking guy. Welker. He's pretty gorgeous. He's got like dumb face.

He's got like manning forehead, you know, where he gets like the mark from the helmet. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost on too tight. Yep. That's fair. That's fair.

I would go Troy Edelman. Welker. I think Edelman doesn't get enough credit. What about you think Troy Brown would have a like huge numbers if he played more seasons with Brady? I mean, he did in those first few years. Yeah. So probably.

Yeah. And I think just in general, I think he would have bigger numbers in the more past heavy offenses of today anyway. Yeah. But even like as opposed to a blood so where I feel like Brady relies on that slot receiver that can just find spaces like work through his own and get it open. Like I feel like that's Troy Brown to a T.

Right. Right. Like when we're still in blood so. But it was it was a different game. Like I feel like Troy Brown's game was a lot different than Welker and Edelman in terms of like Welker and Edelman or more that quick shifty kind of guy who can change direction real quick. And that wasn't ever really Troy Brown's game in terms of like route running,

you know, you know, I just knew where to. I just felt like Troy Brown knew where to sit in terms of his own. He's pretty shifty though. Maybe not. He's definitely shifty. And he also like, I feel like Troy Brown got a lot of his yards on those like quick bubble screens too. Because he was a kind of like punt returner guy.

Who got the most touchdowns? Most touchdowns. Yeah. Because that was always, I mean, Edelman and Welker never scored touchdowns really. Sure. We just had the catches. We've never had that many touchdowns. Yeah. But Troy seems to be, I mean, rewatching all these games and seeing him game and game out.

He's a little bit more of like a downfield threat than just that slot. So he's seemed to score a little bit. Interesting. Like even the touchdown just referenced. I don't know if that's. Oh, wow. Wait. What is this ranking it on?

Touchdowns. All right. So the first one is there are eight, nine and 10. Really? Really? This can't be right. Do you want to guess the order? Are we talking like eighth place, ninth place, tenth place? Or they have eight, nine and 10 touchdowns?

No, eighth, eighth, eighth place, ninth place, tenth place. I think Troy probably has the longevity, right? He's been there less. Wrong. I. Welker has got 37, Edelman 36, Troy round 31. Dude, Randy Moss is three years. He's got 50 touchdowns.

51. Insanity. So we're counting all touchdowns, not just. And playoffs. Yep. It's Stanley Morgan. 67. I've just gone back from 2000, from the Brady Belichick era.

Ed. Greg, how many like punt return touchdowns do they all have? Yeah, I'm talking. I'm talking tons of touchdowns. Where is, you know, honestly, he has to. Because you think like if you are a point factoring in special teams. So all touchdowns, just like that they had something to do with the run, pass, catch, punt return, kick return.

Well, what was your list, Greg? Welker, Edelman, Brown. Okay. In terms of all touchdowns, how would you put them? Brown, Edelman, Welker. Greg. St. Edelman, Welker, Brown.

Really? Edelman has 47 touchdowns. He's 37. Yeah. I threw a couple. He threw a couple. He's got some punt return ones as well. Yeah.

Throw in counts. Yeah. All touchdowns. All right. Welker has 41. Troy Brown has 28. Dude, this says Gino Capoletti has 42. He's a kicker.

Was he a kicker slash? Order back. Order back. I don't know. This is TD receptions. The list I'm looking at. Wow. I mean, that's pretty impressive.

Gino Capoletti. I'm too, but eat your heart out. This can't be right. Receiving and rushing. Damn, yeah. Yeah. Apparently you got as many as 50 passes in a season. God damn.

I didn't know that at all. No, I thought he was just a kicker. He's in the hall of fame for kicking, right? I thought so. Statue check. Yeah. You tell us. I don't know what list you're looking at.

Do you have to? I mean, I guess you do have to have a position, right? Yeah. Oh, you have that position. Dude, that works. What a beast. Right. I just loved him from his commentation on the radio.

Oh, speaking of great commentation, what did you think of when one asked the other, please no more tickling? They were talking about their tickle fight, Andy. I thought of you. Yeah, it didn't tickle the line because there's no tickling in football. Yeah. But then they talked about tickling for like five minutes.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was a lot of tickling talk. Tick talk. That's how tick talk got started. It was actually just videos of people tickling each other. They've been talking about it. Yeah.

And then discussing afterwards. Also on the broadcast, they're like, what is the most heated rival? Dolphins Jets, Bill's Dolphins, Brown Steelers, Chiefs Raiders, Broncos Raiders, Broncos Chiefs. What was the answer? I don't know. It was like a Bwell.com poll. Yeah. I think the answer is none of the above.

I mean, they're all terrible now. Yeah, maybe now. Back in the day, probably, I don't know. Well, even like, if you look at this through today's lens, Dolphins Jets, no. Bill's Dolphins, no. Brown Steelers, no. Chiefs Raiders, not really.

Broncos Raiders, no. Broncos Chiefs. It's got to be one of the Chiefs ones. Yeah, it's got to be it, I guess. You know, Geno Keppel at these positions. Yeah. FLSE. Flanker.

Split end. Split end. Yeah. Defensive back wide receiver kicker. God damn. Dude, I need footage of Geno. I think we may have to do an episode on Geno Keppel Eddie. And his nickname was Duke.

Love that. Duke. Hell yeah. That is such a 60s nickname. All right. A.O. It's Duke Keppel Eddie, you know. It's my 60s character.

You know what I was saying? Yeah. I don't know how to compare. What position you play, Duke? I, you know, Flanker. Split end. Do you think he he played with Bucko Kilroy? Oh, Bucko.

Bucko. I bet they didn't get along. There's smoking cigarettes on the sidelines. Bucko was dirty. Yeah, just hammered. Keppel Eddie doesn't doesn't strike me as a dirty kind of guy. Stand up, dude. That's what I'm saying.

I bet he's got some skeletons in his closet. It's the 60s. No, I bet he played the game the right way. You just you can just feel from the way he. I'm going to start. Check that. Don't think you are. I'm going to put a Gino Keppel Eddie controversy

into the Google.com machine. Okay. Let's not. I don't even want to go down that hole, even if it exists. Let's talk about this game. Speaking of holes, I because it's. Speaking of holes. I am a little.

I'm a little disappointed that Mike didn't get to be here for the the Dandy Norftigenberg era. Because even I could get the football, not football on this. And so it's here. Yeah. So I've got just a couple. But there was one where they were talking about Tupac Jones from his safety spot was pounding the whole way.

And I'm not sure I was grammatically correct. But what is he doing? They just said he's pounding the whole way. Yeah. That's how you squirt through the hole. Wait, wait, wait. Pounding the whole away. No, pounding the whole way.

That's how you squirt through the hole, Andy. Because I think you got the sack. And so you're pounding the end to the quarterback. So pounding the entire way. Yeah. No, no, guys. In the sense you that that's how you squirt through the hole. Pounding.

You pound the whole way to squirt through the hole. I mean, he did. He squirt through the hole and got the sack, I think. And they forced the interception action. And then I don't know who it was, but somebody was smacked by three chiefs, which I didn't think you could show on TV. Smacked by three chiefs. Yeah, I just smacked by three chiefs.

Why is that? Why is that an innuendo? I'll stick it back to it. If I have to explain it to you. I mean, they didn't say spanked. They said smacked. Well, what were you when you were getting spanked as a child? What was that called?

Yeah, but that's like, I think that's like our family thing. I don't know if it is smacked. Smacked to me means you get like slapped in the face. You want me to Google smack? That checks smack. See if it has butt spankings. You can smack your kid around, right? Yeah, you can smack anybody around, really.

The you see it in the sentence. They say she gave Mark a smack across the face. Oh, you want to hear another one? Jessica smacked his face quite hard. I ran smack into the back of a park trip. Okay. None of this has to do with spanking, Vandy. I think you're looking it up on the wrong website.

It's Google.com, man. If I had rest my case. We want to ask Gives about smack slash spanking. Urban dictionary. It's the real. Oh, there you go. No, what was it? What was the other one?

Urban thesaurus. Thesaurus. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, here we go. Wiki diff. The wiki diff. Like what's the difference?

And I have spank versus smack. As as verbs, the difference between spank and smack is that spank is to beat smack or slap a person's buttocks. With a bare hand or other object. As punishment gesture or a form of sexual interaction. Oh, I'm going to say that's football then. I think we've cleared this up. I think so too.

That's football. If those three chiefs had spanked him, then. Oh boy. All right. So then this is similar, but I don't know if this will create the same controversy because it said. Well, they both took wax. That one's not in your endo either.

Google wax, would you? Wack. Okay. We're just Googling random verbs. I'm with Greg on this one. That is not in the endo either, Andy. You didn't tickle the line because there's no tickling in football. Yes.

That one tickling. Yeah. You're only tickling. Well, I guess you could tickle a child. True. Let's not go down that path though. What about what was tickling the line mean? You know, tickler.

Just a good cheat, good cheat. All right. Back to the game. All right. Talk to me. Paths start opening it up, right? Daniel Graham's first touchdown. One-handed snag.

Did. Actually, and this was good commentating on their part. He saw it. He said, oh, you only use one hand on that catch. And then on the replay, you can see that he literally left hand snags it and secures it without even using his other hand. That's true. And he looked pretty fast.

Like he outran a corner back to the end zone. Yeah. Yeah. He looked like what I think that he was supposed to be the bank coast replacement. Yeah. You had that big, fast dude with hands. We forced a fumble.

Victor Green rips it out of pre-somes, I think. Yeah. Pre-somes had a big run, too. It was like 17 and 18 yards. And then Patton will turn that. He recovers. Bad. Brady kind of threw it behind him, but Patton one-handed it as

well and used that pivot turn and just gone for the touchdown. Yeah. That was a great catch. At that point, Brady excluding like his slow start was 27 for 36, four TDs and three 12 in 2002, which is like insane. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I have enough. I was like, how the fuck do we miss a playoff? So we're looking like an absolute wagon. Yeah. Except except on offense anyway. Yeah. Like Connor kind of made a point earlier this year about like,

like Brady announcing like he's here and like these three games. Mm-hmm. This is like last year was like, okay, Brady's like a game manager. Right. Like he makes big plays in big moments, but he's not putting up crazy stats. Like these three games, he is slinging all over the place. He had 400 plus yards in this game. Four touchdowns.

Like four 10. Yeah. Ended with in this, which was at the time was the sixth highest in Patriots history. Yeah. So this is where like to me, Brady, like anybody can be a Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl, right? Oh, yeah. Eli Manning's done it twice where he goes on a hot streak and rides it. But who is the Baltimore Joe Flacco?

No. I was like, what do you mean? Isn't it shots fired? Kyle Bowler, Trent Duffler. Yeah. Trent Duffler, he went with Rich Gannon's got one, right? Rich Gannon is good though. Rex Grossman went to a Super Bowl with the Bears.

Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. But yeah, this is this is Brady come out showing that it wasn't just yeah. And that's the difference. Brady, Brady wins the Super Bowl and then he puts in more work in the off season. Oh, I think which I have a clip for that. Look at me.

I've learned a new trick. Can you tell? Yeah, I like it. Yeah. So this is actually I hate it again because I'm a Luddite. The Luddite image. This is our girl Bonnie talking about Brady work on us because remember last week we didn't know about Brady's play action.

All right. Well, Dick, play action has become so much a part of the Patriots offense. And Tom Brady's really worked on the fakes in the off season. He watched a lot of film of the great ones. Brett Farr, Peyton Manning, he mentioned Elvis Kerrback and he said, the key is really consistency. If you watch quarterbacks, a lot of times they'll rush to their handoff point and then slow down and do just the opposite when they fake.

Said defenses will definitely pick up on that. So you always have to keep what you're doing exactly the same. And Elvis Kerrback does not fit. Yeah. Did she say Kerrback in there? Yeah. Yeah. She's just like, oh, here's some too.

Very highly rated Hall of Famers. I thought I misheard that. Like Kerrback. That name forever. And maybe he's really good at play action. It's a great name. Here's, I think, the real thing that makes Brady great. Like, I don't know.

I don't remember this season at all, but I know the end result of that missing the playoff. So he's got to fall off. But then in 2002 or 2003, he comes back even more with a vengeance. Like to have that peak of a Super Bowl start this year the way this has. I don't remember this year being so awesome where three games or three and oh, they're absolutely lighting people up. Their offense looks unstoppable. Their defense looks just as good as last year.

And then to have it all fall apart. And then to come back the next year and rattle off two more Super Bowl wins. That's what really I think makes Brady great. Yeah. Well, I think that even this year, I think Brady, yeah, Brady led the NFL in touchdown. He did indeed. With 28, so it's not like he was led. But I mean, back then I think that was like a reasonable amount of touchdowns to lead the league with.

Yeah. And I mean, Steve is saying the defense is as good as last year. But I think you're starting to see cracks here. Like look at Priest Holmes had an absolutely monster game. So I mean, yeah, so let's talk about Priest Holmes because I remember him being good, but I don't remember why. But apparently he led the league. Why?

And he was like the they were talking about it. The commentator was talking about it. He was the first guy in like 20 years to lead the league in rushing when he was a free agent the year before. So the Chiefs actually had signed him prior to the 2001 season. And actually the Patriots were looking at him as well. But they went with Antoine Smith because he was cheaper, I think. No, he couldn't have been cheaper. Doesn't sound right, does it?

Priest Holmes is a nobody before he got to... He's undrafted out of Texas. Didn't he? He played for the Ravens, right, before this? Yeah, for two years. But he didn't put up really any numbers. I think he was still pretty highly touted, though, because who else was there? It wasn't Jamal Anderson at the time who was just like lighting the league on fire and Priest Holmes was backing him up.

I mean, maybe. I mean, he's got a decent average per carry, but I mean... Yeah, I think he was one of those like backup running backs that everybody fell in love with, you know? And so there was a bit of a bidding market for him. Who's the equivalent right now? It's probably Billy, because everybody has like three running backs. Yeah, well, they don't. Who was the running...

There was a running back for the Ravens, the backup that everybody loved. I don't remember who it was though, because there's always... Anyways, yeah, he put up a three-year span here in Kansas City where he's like the best running back in the league. Yeah, and this was right in the midst of that. I think he... How many yards did he run for this season? It was like 1,600 or something ridiculous. Yeah, 1,615 with another like almost 700 receiving yards.

Yeah, he basically was the offensive of this team. And the coaches knew that going in. They knew what they're getting themselves into and they still couldn't fucking stop it because... 24 touchdowns. And then the next year, he would set an NFL record with 27 touchdowns, which has been broken like four times since then. But still. By LT, right? Yeah.

Yeah, I always confused LT and Presomes. But I don't know why. Maybe because they both like... Didn't LT break that not long after? Yeah, it was like the next year. And then somebody broke it the year after, I think. Yeah, but I hate LT a lot. I used to always get him and Jamal Lewis mixed up.

I used to get him and... Didn't the Chiefs have another... Larry Johnson. The workhorse, maybe. Yeah, it's Larry Johnson. Yeah, yeah, it was Larry Johnson. That's right. From Penn State, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And they were the kind of similar running back styles. And they were the workhorse of the team and everything ran through them. Yeah. Kind of like that era of Chiefs football, it felt like. Presomes went undrafted, right? He did. Yeah.

I think it's because he was backing up Ricky Williams, right? Is that what you're saying, Steve? Yeah, they were playing at Texas together, but it was like their times weren't that crossed. And there's like a one-year gap in Presomes stats at Texas. I have no idea what happened there, but... Oh, you know. Well, his name is Pres, so it's definitely not like...

You know, touching kids or anything, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. He didn't go to Penn State. So we're good. Hey, hi, hi. There was nothing. I don't know. Maybe you got hurt.

What a backfield. Right. Jesus. And like, when you think about it, like Ricky Williams, like there's that trade where the Saints traded like their entire draft Oh, right. Yeah. to get them.

And then like the Presomes goes undrafted. And career-wise, you got to say, Presomes has a better career than Ricky Williams. Yeah. Is that true? He said the touchdown record, like Ricky Williams never even sniffed it. I mean, he had a good career. Ricky Williams was a stud for a few years.

Yeah. He was, I don't know about a stud. He was good. And then he was like just crazy. And he went and like traveled the world and smoked. I loved him too. But have you ever heard about him negotiating his own contract? No.

Or this was, this actually goes, this goes hand in hand with my deep dive. But when he got drafted, there was like the whole like hip hop and sports were becoming like intermingled to a high degree. So all the rappers were wearing the jerseys backwards. Remember that? Oh, yeah. And apparently like when you got drafted, he like signed on with, I don't know, one of the Southern rappers had like set up their own agency,

sports agency, and they were getting some pretty big names. And like the contract that they drafted for him was like, like 98% incentive laden. And like the incentives were like, he would have to set like NFL records for like four straight seasons to get to that benchmark. And he's like, I'll bet on myself. And I like lost millions and millions of dollars in the process. Yeah.

So you want to hear my deep dive here? Yeah. So whenever I hear the name Dante Hall, I think of the Little Wayne song from the drought three. I'm going to, I'm going to read you the lyric right now. Remember, he does. Can you wrap us the lyric, please? Uh, I'm just going to speak it.

Come on. I'm just going to, I'm just going to speak it. Remember they called me X factor and he used to do the X thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is the line from Little Wayne.

I got a great idea. We should have sex. Pitch. I'm like Dante Hall. I just throw up the X poetry. Took me a second to realize that was the- Like, like the triple X, like the Suck It X? Like that X?

X to C. Yes. Who used to do the Suck It X in wrestling? I know what you're talking about. They, they banned that from the kickball field in my elementary school because everybody, when they cross the field in kickball, they'd do the X. Oh, suck it. I'll say it's like triple H or something like that.

Yeah. You want to hear a couple other lines from this song? Yeah. I mean, you got me hooked. Don't drink Cristal no more. Just pour it on white bitch's heads. Which actually has more context than you think. Apparently the, like the CEO of Cristal in an interview with the economist,

they were asking him about how rap culture had kind of adopted Cristal as like a sign of affluence and he basically said, hey, you can't pick who drinks your beverages, you know? And they all took it as racist. So like Jay-Z started like boycotting it. So this is Lil Wayne acknowledging that, you know, fuck you, I just pour it on white bitch's heads now. It's just kind of awesome. Which I never knew when I listened to the song.

I just thought it was kind of funny, but it's pretty badass too. I thought you're pretty good. Yeah. Um, is another line. If you don't like it, ninja, fuck you with an AIDS dick. It's like, come on, Mr. Wayne. Is there a backstory to that one? I like this self-censoring too, by the way.

Yeah, I caught that. Yes. Which also reminded me of my favorite rap quote ever from Dr. Dre, forgot about Dre. If y'all don't like me, blow me. Which is, which is just the best. And I say it to Kelly all the time. If y'all don't like me, blow me. So then, all right, from there, I started thinking.

Fuck you for Christmas, a gift and a curse. So I started looking into like, hey, when is like did, like how much did Tom Brady enter like the hip hop culture, right? So if they're rapping about Dante Hall and like Tom Brady is like perennial MVP, like he's got to be in there at some point, right? And apparently the first time little Wayne mentioned mentions him is in 2011. For a long time. Yeah, the song Gucci Gucci.

My life is like a movie. I got a leading lady. My rooftop dropped back like Tom Brady, which is a pretty sweet line. You said that's 2011? 2011. Yeah. That seems way late. Well, it's the first time little Wayne mentions him.

Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. Some other people. That seems late though. I know. I thought so too. My favorite was a Rick Ross song. It's actually Wale who says it.

And this quote is, out of this third rock, Ninja air it out. I'm on my Tom Brady. Y'all ninjas is Eric Crouch. Eric Crouch? Eric Crouch too. That's brilliant. Yeah, yeah. Is Eric Crouch the whitest quarterback to ever be mentioned in a rap song?

He's got to be. He's got to be up there. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Is there a Brandon Whedon one? I mean, I feel like Whedon would actually be a good word to fit into a rap song. Definitely. There's a little Kim one too, but it's just so bad.

We can't say that. And then not. Don't ever, Greg. Come on. All right. All right. This is from 2019. Little Kim song too bad.

Oh, dear. I'm going to shake it on him, shake it all around like a hula hoop. And now he want to take me to Hawaii. And you know, I'm a go, go and get it. Tom Brady. I'm going to throw it, throw it back. What? Poetry.

From little Kim. I believe she's talking about her hips. It's during quite us. Okay. We'd explain the hula hoop, you know, certain position. Yeah. Yeah.

Throwing it back. Yeah. But this time Brady even throw it back. He throws it forward. Yeah. What does Hawaii have to do with anything? The probable idiot. It's not in Hawaii anymore, but in Orlando.

He want to take me to Orlando. But it was a promo festivities. But he made the Super Bowl so he canceled on me. Idiot. All right. That's all I had. I thought that steep dive was going to be about Dante Hall, but it took a real strange turn.

Yeah. Yeah. He was sick, but like he wasn't like a great receiver. You know, his first catch behind beyond the line of scrimmage in like the fourth quarter of the very end when chiefs are making it a game. Yep. And that Tony Gonzalez stag was also legit.

He's only one of the game. Yeah. But it was on tile law. He was not open and he just just pulled it out. Yeah. Yeah. The bad wrist or something like you had to. Yeah.

They kept talking and talking about it. Yeah. Too much whacking, right, Andy? That's right. Yeah. Smacking. I would say Dante Hall, Steven, to your point, reminded me a lot of Devin Hester.

I think he's shittier than Devin Hester. Well, just in terms of like Devin Hester was an incredible kick returner. Yeah. The role on the team. It's so hard to make a wide receiver. He just couldn't. Just couldn't. And it felt like Dante Hall was that similar guy.

They did a couple of end arounds and reverses with him just to get the ball in his hands. And one of them, he was electric, but. He is. He had like a couple of punt returns or kick returns that were pretty damn good in this game. But having said that, in this game specifically, I thought Dion Branch almost matched him

kick return for kick return because there was a lot of him in this game. Dude, Dion Branch is a sick kick returner. I didn't even remember him returning kicks. Yeah, me neither. But he's averaging like 30 yards of a kick return in this game. They were fantastic. His first two were 34 and 53 yards. This is what I'm saying.

That's where they started from. Yeah. Yeah. He was great. I just don't remember. And this is like his rookie season. And they keep talking about how polite he is. This is, I think, two games in a row.

They've talked about it where he is. He starts every sentence with yes, sir or yes, ma'am. Yeah, that's a white commentator thing to say. Like, oh, Bobby, that's you. I thought you had me call ma'am at ages. Yeah. He wears a belt and he doesn't even sack his parents. He's so polite.

That on the. Go on, Greg. I was going to say, I think Dante Hall might be the shittiest player that I can think of just off the top of my head. I mean, Reggie Bush, when he was at USC, was like impossible to put a hand on. But beyond that, one name. All right, let me hear Barry Sanders. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the very first I can think that would be. That's a good point. But yeah, no, he's he's in that. And that's yeah. Yeah.

I mean, he's obviously not as good as a football player and like not as productive as some of those other guys. But just from a pure like get the ball in his hands and that one that you watch the highlight video of Mandy, the one entitled human joystick. Absolutely. Yeah, where he runs like back like 16 yards and then like, yeah. Or he like gets a pundit. He catches the punt on like the four yard line and goes backwards a couple yards to

the end zone and then still managed to return it for touchdown somehow. Yeah. Why are you even catching that? He's like, yeah, fuck it. Yeah. He was pretty good. Human highlight reel. It's like that.

I see that running back to the paths picked up on draft a guy in the super short dude. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. His highlight packages. He looks like he's going to be something fun to watch. Oh, really? I feel like I thought that about Dion Lewis when he first came here too. Yeah.

And he was. He was electric. Lewis was sick. Yeah. No Lewis. Right angles like nobody. I loved it. I loved the on this.

Loved him. We'll get to it. So I, I didn't obviously when I watch these games, I have no idea what's going to happen because I don't remember the season and the chiefs get to the one inch line. Right. There's like the receiver runs a curl or whatever and stops one in short, like an idiot. And, uh, and learn more about.

Yeah. Make sure he does not get it. I have a note here. Tell me they throw a slant and throw a pick. Like you have preschools in the backfield. Like he's like carried you Trent Green like barely just like he just broke like a hundred yards on that fucking throw to tell me and I was like, please tell me to try to throw it with green. But they don't.

They just run it in like smart people do. Yeah. So it's not a Pete Carroll moment. This is a no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he came into OT.

Yeah. The game literally went down to third an inches, three seconds left. One play left and down by seven. And the chiefs ran. Priest Holmes literally right at the middle of the dove over the pile and almost didn't make it, but managed to get there because I think there was, uh, both Bruce ski and Pfeiffer were out for this game. So they were starting, um, no, sorry, starting, but I think they're heavy packaged.

What had Larry Izzo in there? Yeah, I saw it. I mean, they're way more. That's where they were for their live back and core. And they got gas for like a buck 80 by Priest Holmes in this game. Yeah. Yeah. He was doing whatever he wanted on the ground.

Yeah. It felt like he was averaging a first down every carry. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I saw a single negative play from him. Even when they thought they had him, he would still get a couple yards. Yeah. Or at least get crazy.

He was crazy. Yeah. He was, he was better than I remember. I thought he was kind of like a power back guy, but he had, he had some shiftiness to him too. He did. Yeah. And he does that little like his end zone celebration as he's going in the prop act memories. Yeah.

For sure. Kind of remind me of the tie law a little bit. Yeah. So there's like a variation of that. I love a little bit of showmanship. Yeah. But of course, Dick Enberg on that last touchdown says, priest home scores and we're going to extra time.

And then Dan Deere, overall people had to remind them that no, they still had to kick the extra point. Back then it was pretty automatic, you know, whatever. Yeah. That's true. Especially with Morton Anderson and his, his 1970s. I, I want, I want you to commentate a game, Andy. All right. I love that.

I, I, and then do that. And then referee another game. And then I'm going to sit through and watch the whole film. I've done it. I'm getting my point. It's hard. Football and college. Fucking hard, dude.

Oh yeah. I have no problem with referees, except these ones. Except all of them. They're, they're a blitz. So, you know how you always say the Patriots always get all the calls and everything. And yeah, you can point them to this game because there were 13 penalties called in this game and 12 more on the Patriots. Well, maybe they committed more foul penalty for five yards.

Maybe they did. But the Patriots, did they bitch about it? Did they get off their game? No, they just went and won the game anyway. Well, I mean, think about that locker room bell check at half time. They had nine in the first half. And then the whole game, you know, so they had three more. He must have been so fucking mad about penalties because this wouldn't even a game

if they weren't shooting themselves in the foot in the first half. I don't know. I think, I mean, I didn't watch the games. I didn't see the penalties, but where they, where they like, They're driving. To me, there's, well, there's two kinds of penalties, right? There's like aggression type penalties. And then there's like, like off sides or like mental bone head stuff.

Here's the, here's the. Holding, I'm fine with. Pass interference is I'm fine with. That's just playing aggressive, you know. Here's a perfect example, Greg. The end of the first half, the, they pin them deep, the chiefs deep and they force the three and out and they punt it. And it's like a crappy pond or whatever.

And they get the ball at like the 45 on the offense. And, and the chiefs, and then immediately fall start. Yeah. And now it's 50 and like they only have like one time, no timeouts or whatever. And like less than a minute in time to try and get a field goal through. So those are the ones that make those five yards are so key in that situation. Like, all right, offense get out there and boom, fall start. That's your ninth penalty of the half.

And yeah, that was a lot of those. It was not great. Now came it in opportune moments too. Like things to, to keep drives live or you had like a really great punt to Dante Hall and you like you pinned them. And then you had, I think it was a legal man downfield on Izzo. And so they got to repunt and kick it back to Dante Hall. And he ended up with like an extra 20 yards of field position.

Yeah. Just stupid shit like that. And some of them were ticky tacky. I think most of the calls were correct. There was, I think in this game, they had two that were called where the gunners were or they like the pun team was blocking the gunners out of bounds. Like they pushed them out of bounds, but kept blocking them out of bounds. And they caught two different guys that call for that twice.

Ty Law was one of them, I think. No, that's a terrible call. No, it's a legit college. It's a time to play. Oh, I'm saying. I think that's those sorts of penalties you just never really see called. But there was two in this game. It's like, what are you guys doing?

Yeah, assholes. Terrible referees in this one. All right. Let's get to it. I'm blaming that. I'm blaming that. We're Ty Law. Thoughts?

I strongly disagree. The commentators disagreed about the original overtime rules where no one gets a possession. Because that's one of the toss. They take it down. There's a sick move by David Patton. Like they thought he was going out of bounds and he cut it back inside. It got another like 15 yards. Yeah, I think it was one of those plays where it was supposed to be a run play.

But Brady saw that Pat was uncovered. So he just like pulled the ball and chucked it to him quick. And Patton took it for like 20 yards. Yeah, it was a great play. Yeah, it was fantastic. And he gave him the old, hey, how are you, too? To that DB. Yeah, he did.

Looked like he was going to step out of bounds and cut it back in front of his face. Uh-huh. And he was like, hey, you dropped, you dropped. You're a jockstrap, buddy. Yeah, I'm sure he said that. Dane, dude, our kid has some thoughts about, um, about overtime. And we actually talked about this, uh, in the, We got up, we got an audio article last week.

Yeah. But this is, this is what he had to say in this game, too. Six. Well, this is a situation where maybe some people think, well, maybe we go ahead and try to kick the field goal on third down. I think you try to keep going. Even at an Adam Venetieri, it's not a certainty. I know that he hasn't missed this year.

The guy is money in the bank, but a touchdown is better. A touchdown leaves no doubt. I actually get, get his point. So yeah, they're like, like the 25. He's talking about like avoiding a missed field goal or like a botch snap, right? Because that's why someone would say go for kicking on third. But it's third and seven. Like I, I understand that aspect of it.

It's third and seven from the chief's 20 yard line with Adam Venetieri. Oh yeah. I mean, I don't agree with the statement, but I see what he's trying to say. Like when I first heard it, I thought he was just like, didn't understand that a field goal wins it. He might not. I'm still not sure because as, as they, as he's talking, they're showing the stat on the screen that says, uh, like they're showing Adam Venetieri and says,

has 12 game winning field goals, six of them in overtime. Like this is more automatic than scoring a touchdown. Yeah. But at touchdown, there's no doubt. On like a field goal to which doubt. Have you considered that, Andy? The doubt factor. I had failed to think of the doubt.

Well, that's why he's in the hall of fame. Fuck you. Adam's field goal is a no doubter. Oh yeah, it was, it would have been good in arena football. He's split, right? Right down Broadway. Yeah. And that was all she wrote.

Another big win. And like, you got to think that spirit is soaring high right now in New England. Win a Super Bowl. You come back next year and your quarterback is even better and you're just shit stomping teams. Like, yeah. And you're, you're undefeated on the season three. Yeah.

Against like some pretty good teams too. Yep. Right. Right. So I think it's a good time to do some best and worst. Greg. Can you start with Steven? What do you got?

Starts with the highlights now. The worst is like. More commentating pile on Andy. The only good part was there was their golf thing where the announcements always get super stoked when punters outkick their coverage. Like they, they like some of the Casey punter like Dick Enberg. Yeah. Hit the fuck out of the ball.

But like he did. Like kind of a low line driver or not. You know, he's he put it out there. Hey, he outkicked his coverage by like 20 yards. Yeah. And so Troy got like a sick return out of it. And just like just by running straight up the middle. Oh, it's a huge booby bun.

Awesome. What a great leg. And it's like, that's what he's trying to do. Oops. And then my best is definitely that Troy Brown drive. I mean, I think I snap chatted it to like a billion people. Like one of my guys, they had like a sweet highlight montage after it too of all of his catches and like nothing was easy.

I think it's where like everybody learns you can't play zone against Brady too. Because like Troy was just too good against that zone. And Brady is going to him over and over and over and Troy is just making the gutty, gritty plays and like just being awesome. And then that touchdown to cap it was just wow. Yeah. Brady wasn't even looking. He wasn't even pretending to like look anywhere else.

He's just staring Troy round down until he got open and just threw it at him. Or he couldn't do nothing about it. He wasn't even opening. Just throwing it anyway. You still catching it. All right, great. I got mine now. OK, good.

Uh, my best, uh, shout out Daniel Graham first career touchdown reception. Yes. Yeah. OK, that's a good one. I don't think we've talked about that. Um, sure. My worst was, uh, the commentators, you know, like even that play where they got the name wrong on who caught that pass.

Like, come on. Which time? Are we talking about the one where they're talking about how Troy Brown is back from his injury when he won? Yeah. Well, we'll talk about the one we got the name wrong three times. Oh, well, yeah. I mean, you can confuse our leading wide receiver.

Or are we talking about when they talked about tickling for five fucking minutes? Yeah. You guys know you got, you get it. You get it. Well, when they, they called the script kick, the onsite's kicked. Oh, that dude down one. Oh, and Dick Enberg says, uh, he says a six yard game. Oh, he gains maybe a yard.

Actually, wait, no, make that six yards. Oh, dude, he was five yards off. Yeah. What in it? What an idiot. Pretty good. It's a pretty good Troy Brown. That's a hard negative for not watching the game there, Greg.

That's true. I didn't. That's the thing. When I just watched the highlights, I don't get any of the commentators. My negative is Greg not watching the fucking football game. Well, my positive is you because you're such a good brother, Andy, and I love you. So very much. So, you know what I'm going to do, Greg?

I'm going to mix this up on you. Ready? You ready for this? What are you going to do? My best is the following Dick Enberg line. Third and third and goal at the end of the game here. And the Patriots know that the chiefs are going to run it. And so you can see they're sending in their beef cakes, their heavy package.

And Dick Enberg goes, they've just sent in a whole truckload of beef. See, that's what I'm talking about. That's a redeeming one right there. So I give them that. A truckload of beef. Truckload of beef. Yeah. My, well, let's see what else do I have.

I like visualizing that, you know, just a bunch of like fat dudes wedged into like a Ford F-150. Nah, they're in the back of a new haul. Tractor trailer. Yeah. Back of a new haul. They're running out like they're like a set of pigs here. They're all grunting. Yeah.

And my worst is one of the referees getting in the way in this game because they were taking as many shots as Troy Brown and Tom Brady were. In fact, one of the guys, one of the refs, managed to run into the chief's fullback as he was running onto the field to go to the huddle. And it literally looked like it knocked him out cold. Yeah. And he had this massive like, like black eye sort of like, you know, in boxing, where like the bottom like just under their eyes swells up and it all like,

and they cut it to make it the swelling go down. It was that. And that's what they did. They had to give him like eye drops and shit. And it stopped the game for like 10 minutes. Just keep going. Oh, yeah. Stayed in the game.

He stayed in. Good for him. Yeah. Yeah. But there's a few plays where like the referees just, they were in the middle players got clobbered. Just got ragdolled. Yeah.

So Molly, Molly wopped. Oh, like that. Oh, let's. So, all right. The source. Oh, dear. I mean, this is an ideal. All right.

All right. Let's give a game ball out. All right. Greg. Urban, the source is Molly whopping mine. I'm not going to steal your Steve. Mine goes to Tom Brady. 400 passing yards.

Four touchdowns. He's really. Save it. Save it. Frank, save it. Wait. No. Okay.

Go ahead. Obviously, obviously mine's Troy Brown Patriots record and catches in all three quarters. Mine is Dick Enberg for watching a different game than we were. You know what? No, I take it back. Mine is the Patriots offensive coordinator who is Charlie Weiss at this point. Uh, because he has decided one that he wanted to play this game like I play men, which was literally just throw it every fucking play.

Brady had like what 50 something attempts, like 52 attempts, something stupid like that. And they just came out doing that. They came out five wide and just said, you know what? Fuck it. We're just not going to run the ball. And then no huddle too. That's their first drive. No huddle.

Five wide. Just like, all right, let's go. Yeah. Back in 2002. That was crazy. Yeah. And then just the amount of trickery they had on this day. On their first touchdown, they tried to go for two on the extra point

by having the holder, Ken Walter, try to do a dive off of left tackle. And he didn't make it. They did another one where they pitched it to Falk who threw it back to Brady, who fumbled it and had to throw it away. And then they had another one where they pitched to Falk and Falk through deep to Troy Brown, who missed it and our old friend Dick Enberg missed the fact that Brady had pitched to Falk. Yes.

Commentated that it was Brady going deep. And he was deriding Brady for missing for missing Troy Brown so badly. Until two, I think it was like the next play. They somebody must have like told him in his ear that it wasn't actually that. And he corrects himself eventually. Yeah, that was really bad. So the offensive play calling I thought was it was it felt very poor execution, but it felt like Chip Kelly asked, you know,

just pulling on all the stops and just having a good time with it. The UNH is finest. That's right. All right, Greg. Let's lay us on the Molly Wapping. Well, so I put in ragdolled into Urban Thesaurus and it sounds like I'm getting two separate like paths here. I'm getting what looks like a semen rag synonyms.

And I'm also getting a lot of like when women are on their period cinnamon. So I'll just read a couple. I'll let you guys make the call. Cottonpony. Cockrag. Butcher's apron. None of these are a synonym for ragdoll.

I'm still I'm still stuck on cottonpony. I don't know which side that goes on. West Virginia Tiki torch. That could be a lot of things. That could be anything. Rusty work boot. Rag in a bag. Seamen farm.

I think you can get what that one is. That one I got. Dude, there's like literally like 700 options here. Holy shit. This is awesome. Sorry, mom. Oh, like this is making it into this episode. Oh, sphincter slap.

That's a good one for you, Andy. This is slapping innuendo. In this case, I'm going to say probably. All right. Well, on that note, if we have any listeners left, what are we looking at next week, boy? I have no idea. I don't know.

I'm doing a page traveling to Qualcomm Stadium to play the San Diego Supercharges. San Diego Supercharges. That's the one. So we'll see you next week. If we haven't been canceled by then. On the next episode. Yeah, what?

Greg, who's going to cancel us? You are the reason we'd be canceled. Can I cancel like us? All of you. I can't say what I came in. Mom, mom. Mom will definitely cancel us. When I came into this recording, I was like,

I'm intentionally going to make this go off the rails. I set out to do that. It doesn't feel intentional. Oh, it was just naturally who you are. You did an OK job at it. But like, I don't know, we did. I got us. I got us to some weird places.

No, sure. Yeah, we did. We just kind of dip our toes and we kind of tickled the line. We did. I mean, we were on wiki diff between talking about and smack and smack. And I think you're wrong there, Andy. And I think we proved that unequivocally.

I disagree. I think you unproved it with your list. I don't even remember what it was called. The something smack. This we can save this for a later episode. But I have, you know, like the when you have sex and then you leave. And like, there's like, there's a term for that, you know. Like the wham bam.

Thank you, ma'am. Yes, exactly. So the synonyms of that, I've got like 15 that are so fucking funny. I had a note that I should have brought up on what's Tom Brady's completion streak. I don't know. What do you mean? He had like 11 or 12 in a row in this game.

Yeah, most of them are in that range. I'm not going to stat check that. We'll stat check it because I'm going to ask it later. Okay, I'll stack it. Check it before the next episode. All right. And on that note, we will see you next week in San Diego. I guess.

Oh, we're still recording. Oh, I thought we were done. Like we didn't let me finish before. Oh, you just ended it. Yeah, let's figure out a post. Fucking hell. Well, excuse me.