Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2003 AFC Championship: Patriots vs Colts

Episode Date: April 6, 2021

Never has a QB been hotter coming into a playoff game than Peyton Manning in 2003. Looking to revenge their week 13 loss, the Colts travel to a slushy Gillette Stadium to face a Patriots team that hasn't lost since week 4. Will the red-hot Manning torch another defense on his way to a Super Bowl, or will this New England team cool down their opponents like they have in their last 14 wins?Notes:Here's the game link in case you'd like to watch the game or the highlights.Here's the picture of the fan wearing a dog's head, maybe?Don't forget to text us your thoughts on the Dynasty Hotline! Let us know what you think about this game or anything else. [phone]Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Patriots Dynasty podcast. I am your host, Andy Brown. With me are the brothers Brown, fresh off of a, I think our experiment into other fan bases was a short one, short lived from our Browns on Browns podcast earlier. I thought I was, I think I stunk up the joint. Yeah, no, C minus, very naughty. Yeah, so

we didn't end up dropping the Browns off at the pool. So yeah, but I think going from watching all of these Cleveland Brown losses, even though it was just the highlights, the shift from that to the game we're talking about this week. Greg, you want to introduce us to what this game is? Yeah, can we just play that? The clash song, I fought the law, and the law one, I fought the law and the law one. I'll see if I can fit that in here. That describes this game. So which one was it? The single greatest single defensive player game in Patriots history? Okay. Anybody want to argue that? William, I'll come for you throw. William did set the league record in sacks in the

playoff game once. Does that count? That's pretty good. I couldn't think of any off the top of my head. What year was that, Andy? It'll be a couple of years after they go five or six or something like that. Really? Yeah. I guess the Jag, whatever game that was. But yeah, I would say that, I mean, if this isn't number one, it's one in one A, you know? 2003 AFC conference game, Patriots versus the Colts, Peyton Manning coming to town in the snowish sleet. It's more like it was slushing. Anybody who's from New England will understand that term. It's snow, but just barely is right on the edge of rain. And so it hits you and it melts immediately and you just get soaking wet even though it's snowing. Soggy weather. Yeah. From all the fans that you saw out there just standing there,

just they were soaked. They weren't covered in snow and it wasn't really accumulating like it was kind of like they had that like, you know, and you get the slush on the sidewalk. It was like that on the field. Yeah. Perfect football weather. That's what Virginia winter is. That's how it snows here. Yeah. So another reason not to move to Virginia. Sounds great. You're right. They were probably wishing for snow at that point in that stadium. They're like, how do I have snow right now? Yep. Yeah. All or nothing. That's what you need. Yeah. I mean, there's got to be so much hype going around this game. Oh, going into this game because this is like, even if you're not a Patriots fan or Colts fan, this is like an NFL fans dream. Yeah. It's the best offense versus the best defense

in the league. Playing about as well as those units can play too. Yeah. So let's talk about the Colts because I think that was the kind of the big storyline is that coming into this game, the Colts were as hot as you can be for an offense. So hot right now. So hot right now. So because I, all right, so I don't know if any of you have the stats for this, but I know one of them was that in the Colts first two playoff games, they had not punted. They hadn't punted once. We'll get to the other defining point of this game for me. Well, we'll get there. But let's talk, I mean, what else, what else was happening with these Colts coming into this game? Well, if we want to back up a step to put it in historical context of the Colts, right, they're pretty bad

for a while until they drafted Peyton in 1998. Yeah. Yeah. First overall, he's their savior, like, bless our boss. Yeah. Yeah. So he's like coming into his own. This is his fifth season in the NFL. He's, he puts up a lot of gaudy numbers, but they can't get over the hump of the playoffs. So he's 0-3 in the playoffs prior to getting to this season, which is good for the Colts. Jets last year or something. Yeah, they got the doors blown off, 41-nothing by the Jets last year. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, the fact that they made three playoffs in, you know, five years is pretty good for them. So then this year rolls around, they go 12-4. He's a co-MVP. He's the NFL passing lead areas like 4,200 yards on the season through the year, which in 2003 is ridiculous. 29 touchdowns

and only 10 interceptions. Yeah. They're averaging a shade under 30 points a game, the offense. They're second in points, 30 yards in the NFL. Yeah. They get the division or the wild card because the other co-MVP that we just beat last week, right, Steve McNair. So then all they do in that is they shitstomp the Broncos 41-10 in Indianapolis. I got the drive chart in front of me. This is the Colts drive chart. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, touchdown, field goal, fumble downs. That's it. Yeah. Wasn't Peyton Manning, didn't he have like almost a perfect quarterback rating in that? It was one of the two. I think it was that. Yeah. So Peyton Manning stats in that game, 22 of 26, 377 yards, five touchdowns, no picks, 158.3 rating. Perfect rating.

Yeah. So those last two weren't even Manning, the fumble down. So every time Manning is in there. Garbage time. Yeah. Touchdown or field goal. Touchdown. They scored touchdowns. Yeah. Jesus. All right. So then they go to the Chiefs who had a great season as well. Yeah. They were undefeated for like week nine or something. Yeah. Want to hear their drive chart from that game? Yes, please. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, and a half field goal, touchdown, touchdown, downs. So their score was on like 80%. So that was a 38 to 35 or 38, 31 in Kansas City. Yeah. Because that was, yeah, that was a shootout. That's right. Because it was, that was Priest Holmes' Chiefs too. Correct. Yeah.

Oh, you might be right. Yeah. And Manning's stat line, 22 of 30, three into four yards, three touchdowns, no picks, 138.7. Only. Yeah. So coming into this, he is just torching defenses, leaving dead defenses in his wake. Yeah. He's got 12 incompletions in two games and eight touchdowns. So it's about as good as Manning gets. Yeah. You can't, you can't really get any better in the playoffs. Yeah. So you got to think Colts fans are going, okay, this is the year we got over that playoff home. Manning's MVP, we are unstoppable. We're a wagon right now. We're going to the Super Bowl. Yeah.

Kansas City, that's a tough place to win. Arrowhead. Right. Into Arrowhead. Stomp them. And so that kind of segues into one of the quotes that the commentators talked about. I think it was Bernie on the Bonnie on the sidelines talking about before the game, Peyton Manning himself was coming in with a lot of with the Colts trailing New England by 14. Peyton Manning was right about one thing and wrong about another. He was right when he called the Patriots quote a different animal. He said their sound on both sides of the ball will have to work for everything. He was wrong when he said, if we lose this, it won't be because they confused me. Four interceptions. Greg speaks for itself.

First four interceptions of the postseason for him. So if they lose this, it's not going to be because this Patriots defense confused him. Yep. The protection problems, which to me as at the time, probably a bigger Peyton Manning hater than I am now. I wasn't a huge fan of him when he played, but he's growing on me now that he's retired. I would say that almost sounds a little bit like him throwing his kicker into the bus. It's like, well, if we lose, it's not going to be because of me, obviously. So it's almost like he was kind of building in some other excuses as to why this team might lose maybe defensively. They're going to give up too many points or whatever.

Yeah, which makes sense after the previous week when they gave up 31. Yeah. He's like all of them doing scoring touchdowns because their defense wasn't great. That's true. Did you see that stat about the punts too? No. About puntsless games. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I think I'd take a picture of it. It was, where do I have it? NFL postseason all time, games with zero punts. Colts this year, two games, all other teams, three games out of 391 possible games. That's pretty crazy. Yeah. And so you were thinking this was, I think a lot of people going into this were thinking it was going to be a shootout because that's what it was

in Indianapolis when the pages went there earlier in the season, right? Right, which was like an all-time regular season game. So that's adding to the hype this too of like, okay, they went to Indy. There was a last-minute play to win the game after a furious like 21-point comeback. So like throw that in the mix of getting hype about this. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. That works with CBS. It's like a ominous matchup. Yeah. It's a wet dream. You got Brady, who's like the winning quarterback that's young that like, oh, he could be pretty good. Manning, who's like the highly touted like his first round pick and a seventh round pick going at it. They're both like

really good earlier in their careers. Like that dynamic is awesome. Yeah. The Belichick Manning dynamic is there. Yeah. They've been going at it for years at this point since 2000. And Belichick is often, not always, but often got Manning's number. Manning doesn't always have great games against him. So I think Manning was like one in six against Belichick to this point in his career. Something like that. Yeah. This might have been the sixth one. I think so. Yeah. Cause that was an early narrative, right? Of it wasn't so much Belichick versus Manning, or Brady Manning. It was Belichick Manning because Belichick was the defensive mastermind.

And can he come up with something to confuse Peyton? And Peyton's over here being like, nah, he ain't going to confuse me. Yeah. If we lose any, because I was confused. So those four I and T said, buddy. Yeah. And then I would, I would say, you know, Peyton Manning face is a very recognizable meme. I would have to say this game was probably its apex. This is all time, peak all time Manning face. Just the from the get go. Yeah. His first interception he threw, they cut to him and he did the triple shrug. There's no less than 15 Manning faces in this game. Oh, at least some of those ones you see in memes now are in this game and like, it's just, yeah, full of great Manning face.

In all scrouchy. He was grouchy. He was. He had reason to be. He looked war torn. Hey, he fought the law and the law one. Okay. It really did. All right. So do you want to kind of get into this game then? Yeah, sure. Because yeah, I mean, we won't go drive by drive. But I think there's a lot of like, I have a quarter by quarter. All right. Your thoughts, Steve? Yeah. And it shows up pretty early in this game too is the law. Remember, we had that poster of the law in Maloy and the lawyer, you know? This is the first year they don't have lawyer and they swapped him in for Rodney Harrison.

Yes. And he balled out in this game. He did. He had an awesome, awesome game. I think it was correct or stumble in the first quarter. Well, no, he had the interception in the end. So the game starts, the Patriots go out and like his first drive, I think it's like midfield or something and they they go for it on fourth and one was like, yeah, at the Colts 40 and it's like a Brady sneak as it always is. But like that almost set the tone of like, this is going to be one of those games where we're just going to like, we're not playing it safe. We're going to pull out all the stops and it started literally the first drive going for them fourth and one is the first series.

Yeah. And then it ends with Brady throwing one of my favorite of his touchdowns, I think. It's one of those ones that I always forget about. But when I watch, I'm like, oh, that is one of the greatest play calls and like execution of it as well, where it was Brady, he had given out on the wing and he faked the wide receiver screen to him. So the defensive back comes up and then given just runs past him, he just like lobs it to him in the end zone wide open. Perfect. That's a great play call. You're on like the seven, right? That's a perfect, that's a tough Patriots run that play all the time of just get it to wide receiver on, you know, inside the five yard line, see if he can make a miss and he's got a touchdown if he can. Right.

And the dude bit on it so hard because they pump it and he's given was so open. It was such a good play. I don't think I've ever seen them really run that again that I can remember. It's true. But like that's your first like touchdown play call is that which is great. Givens have four catches on that drive. Yeah. You didn't really do much else after that, but it's all good. It's all right. And then, yeah, and then of course, like the Colts as they would do kind of almost all game just kind of move straight down the field with relative ease. I don't know about ease. I mean, I think the pages made them work for it, but they were still moving the ball successfully. Get down to inside the New England, like five yard line. Then on third down,

Manning gets confused for the first time of the day and throws an interception to Rodney Harrison. And I thought if you looked at the play, I think it's so much Tony Pollard, the tight end. He was. And Marcus Paul, sorry. Yeah. And he looked wide open at the beginning, which he may have been, but then all of a sudden Rodney Harrison kind of like the whole defense like shifts as the play is happening and like rotates almost all of a sudden Rodney's just he's just there. It was a bad throw. It was not a good throw. He's throwing off his back. He's back pedaling as he's throwing it. He used to read and then tried to still do it anyways. And Rodney's instincts took over, peeled off his guy and victimized him in the end zone.

Yeah. And then we said, oh, I first paid Manning face where he goes, he's like, oh, does his little shrug thing. He's like looking at who knows how he's looking at. Who are you trying to blame? That was all on you, bud. Like Pollard was wide open from the get go and you just missed the read until you found it too late. Yeah. Anyone interested go to 19 minutes in the YouTube video? I wrote him down. Dude, I started, I started writing down Manning faces and then I had to start abbreviating MF, which I thought was funny because motherfucking and then I just gave up because there's so many. I was like, I can't keep doing this. Yeah. I wouldn't even like write him down. Just

just watch the whole thing because you'll get a sprinkling of them in there. You could you could legit go to the YouTube, which is two hours long and just click randomly in the bar and you'll see one within about a minute and a half. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. You'll get there real quick. Won't take you long. Yeah. Just just just watch random plays of the Colton offense and you'll you'll get there. So that was basically the first quarter. Both those drives took quite a lot of time. So Patriots seven up seven, nothing first quarter. And I remember, I think we're on. Huh? Yeah. That right before through the interception on third down in the red zone

about how in the playoffs he've been 13 for 13 on third down. And also, there was another one where they were another stat 10 touchdowns in the last 13 red zone drives the Colts offense. Love that. Oops. Oh, and also on the Colts opened their offensive play, like when they got the ball back, their first offensive play was a false start. And it was the first penalty on offense the whole postseason for them. 117 plays as the first one they did. And it was literally the first play of the game for them. That was nice. All right. So first quarter over seven, nothing. And so I was thinking about this today where like some of these games, like I remember a lot

about them or, you know, for a lot of like Boston sports moments, you know, you remember where you were and that sort of thing. And this game, I didn't remember where I was when I watched or anything like that. But I remembered the feeling that I had when I watched originally when I was watching it again this week. What do you mean? Because it was that but also fear and there too of like fear. We're going to be able to keep this up because and once we get in the second quarter, like this is where it kind of hit like this whole second quarter and the way it all played out like, wait, we could actually do this. If we keep doing this in the second half, like we can we can pull this off without Brady throwing any more touchdowns.

Well, they dominated, but they weren't dominated on the scoreboard. I think that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. And it's because their red zone offense was atrocious. Ben and Terry goes five for five on field goals. We were just shitting on the double overtime game last week where they went five for five or Carolina. But I could have kicked those. You know what I'm saying? They're all from like within the 10. Right. And all year they'd had shit red zone offense. And it's like if they had just scored a couple touchdowns and this game's over and they're just kind of hanging in. I get I get that fear too, Andy. Remember that? Yeah. But they were doing just enough on it like every drive it felt like. I think because I think they went out, they went three and out

twice and they were both in the fourth quarter. So they were kind of still like moving the ball while the Patriots were. Yeah. A lot of like five wide in the snow as you do. But a lot of Troy Brown in clutch spots. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of Troy Brown when you absolutely needed him. I think he didn't convert another fourth down. He did. He kind of fourth in like a third and 10. He's and also on the first drive of the second quarter and the page is driving again. He had like two huge catches and then Brady almost throws an interception. But Troy Brown knocks it out of the defender's hand. So they were able to kick a field goal on that first drive. Got the red zone. You're right. Yeah. And so that was like a huge turning point too.

Because I mean, it's three points, but it kind of all like mattered at the end. So so yeah. Pats are up what 10 nothing this point. Right. So after the turnover, they march down, they kick a field goal. It's 10 nothing passed. Yeah. Peyton started the second quarter. So like Peyton's getting a little frisky. He's like, oh, we got to do something here. And a 60 yard kickoff return. First offensive play. He tries to. Yeah, he tries to stick one on the corner on the corner out and tie law who's who's over there. He jumps off his guy. You guys will remember this play where he starts floating back and he just does the one hand scoop catch as he's sliding down.

Probably the best of his three picks of the game. I would say whenever, whenever I hear the name Troy Brown tie law, that's the play I think of. That's the first way that pops into my mind. This might be his best interception ever. Yeah, I would agree. He's most athletic. I mean, that was a one handed one handed stand. Yeah. Perfect catch. Amazing catch. Well, it was just indicative of how tie law plays. He's proactive rather than reactive. Right. I think you get a lot of cornerbacks in the league that they're decent players, but they're always just trying to not get beat. Yeah. Where tie law would try and beat you. Yeah, absolutely. You know, he'd be like I in quarterbacks. He'd be

trying to jump routes. He'd be, he'd be doing all the stuff that's like, I don't know. He just felt like a competitor that was trying to make plays every time he was out there. I agree. Levis does the same thing and more does the same thing. Those two guys also were who? Gilmore. Gilmore. Gilmore. They're like big quarterbacks into throws and like read them and set them up and just like they are trying to beat you and I agree with that. And it almost feels like they know not just what their responsibility is on the field, but like what the defenders around them need to be doing too. So like on that play, especially like that, like you said, that wasn't the guy tie law was covering, but he dropped off of that because he saw Peyton Manning's going deep

and the commentators I just talked about like how many meetings tie laws like, I don't need to be in all these meetings. We have meetings all the goddamn time. And they're like, well, I mean, this is this is what you get from those meetings is that you recognize that if this is the route combination, I don't know. I'd be really interested to see what Tyler says about that. Like, well, do you think he was like, I bet they're feeling it a little bit and they're going to try and take a deeper shot than the safer underneath stuff? That's what I'm wondering. Yeah. Right. Or just like reading a quarterback's eyes. Yeah. And like body language, you know, I feel like he was like an instinct player, but then you think you'd get beat more often trying

to do stupid shit. But I'd love to hear him talk like X's and O's to see what how much of it is like game prep shit versus how much he's just like, he's going with the flow of the game and just reacting to what he sees. All right. Hang on. I'm writing it down right now. I'm going to go see if we can get Tyler on the podcast just for you. Okay. Dude, Tyler also rules just as a person. He's the best. I'm not gonna lie. I tried to find some of his vodka. I tried really hard to get some of his vodka for this, but I can't get it anywhere. Dude, I'm recording from a trampoline right now in honor of Tyler. It's trampoline parks that he sold. It is no longer a part of, but yes, I got some notes on Tyler though. We'll

save that for the end. Oh yeah. I think we should. But it's my personal life. I think he's going to come up with his career in general. All right. So the pages don't do much with that. Kick another field goal. Hit it down to the seven kick a field goal classic just like we did last drive. And I think that on some of these field goals, the last couple, I think it was, they actually had some good play calls, but Christian Fourier dropped two touchdowns. Yeah, he did. Both hit him in both hands, catches that he's made in other games. And on some good play calls too. But I think if he had caught either one of those, this game looks very different. This game isn't nearly as close as it was at the end.

Patriots kind of walk away and laugh almost. Yeah. You're adding eight points to their lead at halftime. Right. Yeah, exactly. And so yeah, so you're up more than two touchdowns. And yeah, I think things might look a little different. How did they get to that big 15, nothing halftime lead? Well, yeah, because right now it's 13, nothing, which means if my math is correct, we're two points away. Safety in this game. Yes, I don't remember safety. Steve, do you remember what this is? I mean, not obviously the title picks everyone. Those are the highlights you've all seen, but I remember this very clearly. And it embodied the build up and all that that Greg was talking about earlier. They showed that stat of how they had them punted and nobody

else ever has never punted in the playoffs. And apparently like all the Indianapolis media was giving the punter a whole bunch of shit about how he's not earning his paycheck. The commentators are talking about like, oh, it's a lot of money for just holding. Yeah. Just being a holder. Why? I paid so much. Also, I just want to point out that the fact that the name, the punter's name is Hunter Smith and nobody called him Hunter the punter. I was just thinking that in my head. Such a miss. I mean, for like a Phil Sims type of guy too, who's like, we talked about last week about how fucking work, work appropriate joke shit he does. Like you're going to miss the Hunter the punter joke. Yeah. And like they're saying his

whole name every time like it's Troy Brown. There's Hunter Smith as if there's another Hunter on the team. Yeah. It's very millennial name to Hunter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He wears skinny jeans. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Love dancing on Tik Tok. If our last name was green instead of brown, I'd name my first born Hunter. Hunter green. Yeah. Like that. Because that's all he could wear though. You can name your, you can name him not. Not brown. Yeah. Hazel. I don't know. No, it doesn't work. Dark. Like a Pacino. Yeah. Light. Dark. I don't know. Your coffee nerd. You know, you'll think of something. I'll come up with something. Mocha. Feces. Hot brown. That hot, hot brown. First name, hot, middle name, hot, last name, brown. You can go with hot

garbage. The nap on the Hunter, the punter was hot garbage. Oh, and also speaking of perfect names for that, that, that punt in general, the long snappers name, Justin Snow. Justin Snow does he snap the ball two feet over the punter's head. And it looks like it's really cute. Like Hunter, the punter was not ready for it. You look like you're super surprised. It goes over his head. The best part was Hunter, the punter is wearing two receiving gloves. Still can't catch the ball. He barely gets a hand on it. Yeah. He gets like a half a finger on it. Yeah. And then it goes over his head that he's running after it. Yeah. So he's running after it. And I think his, his kick on that, because basically what he does is he takes it from like great play

from the 10 yard line, just like just belts it out the back of the end zone. Just kicks very heads up play. It was a hilarious looking. It's kind of, it's probably really hard to kick a bouncing football on like a frozen grass that's all in the snow. Yeah. Yeah. It's the first time. Top corner, right, Greg? See that? I'd say he was the best player in the Colts in the first half. You might be right. He saved them five points. Yeah. Yeah. And they got a penalty out of it too, which I thought was hilarious. Did you see they like zoomed in on Hunter too? And he was just like, yeah. I did the best I could in this situation. I'm a hunter stand. That guy rules. Yeah. He doesn't punt for two games, comes in, gets snapped over his head and then just boots it out the back.

He's an electric playoffs. Yeah. That was amazing. That was like his only appearance. Yeah. Yeah. Did another good punt later, I think. Yeah. I think he punted once more, but so he had like two snaps the entire playoffs. One kick over his head to 15 rows deep. Yeah. Money kicks off 15 and money kicks 50 yards. Yeah. Yeah. And he'd be like, yeah, fucking suck it. Making my money now, aren't I? It just saved you five points in a playoff game. You know who maybe you should have been bitching at? Yeah. Fucking Justin Snow. Justin over there. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, sucks in snow. Oh, shit. Just that whole, they're so fucking good in every pun. And then like, okay, now I have to punt. Now you know what? That's not going to last forever. And like special

teams break down even though it's not a third of the game, right, Greg? That's right. Third of the game. That's right. And so, I mean, I feel like this is kind of similar again to the first Colts game the Pats played in Indianapolis where watching this, it felt like there was a lot of opportunity for the Patriots to like just step on the throat of the Colts and just like put this game away. Because you know, you just, you just got a safety on what we should have been a punt. So you get two points and they kick on the ball right back to you. And I think the kickoff return was actually pretty good. So you got the ball like almost midfieldish, I think. Yeah. Your own 40 something like that. And three plays in Bethel Johnson fumbles the ball, Colts recover, like, well,

fuck like that. We could have just like put the game away right there, get any sort of points out of that. And now it's three touchdowns, an hour and a half. But instead, you've given Indianapolis a ball back with two minutes around midfields. And this is a team that we've seen can score quickly, like real quick. And they move it. Yeah. And so they drive inside New England 20. And of course, they score a touchdown and go into the, oh, wait, nope. Rodney pops his head up again. He had a ball, but monster game. Yeah. And this is this is some Harrison on Harrison crime. Marvin Harrison catches the ball over the middle and Rodney de-cleats him. Like, I think if, if Marvin Harrison had any feelings, they were loosened

by this hit. No, it wasn't like, I don't know. He got him like kind of low, but he got him right on the ball. Like Harrison was like bracing for the hit. Rodney went even lower when you got the ball and just kind of wasn't like a stop him square or glancing, but his hit was square on the ball. Hit him square. Ball pops out a boy Tyrone pool who they mentioned used to play for the Colts, which I did not remember. I remember him playing for the Panthers for a while. I didn't know he played for the Colts. So found himself on the right side of the coin on this game, including that fumble recovery. So the Patriots kind of escape a bit of like a, what could have been some like a swing in points, a swing in momentum. And they realize that and decide to run the clock

three runs and kneel down the half or two runs in a kneel. So half time, it's 15-nothing. And this is where I'm thinking like this defense is, is fucking killing it with the turnovers. And if the offense can just do like one more thing, like we, we have this game in hand and things feel pretty good. And Peyman is kind of one for his life. Their drive chart after those drive charts from. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right into playoffs. Because it was, yeah, it was the first half, first half drives. In the other games were touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, end of half, right? Right. Basically. And in this game, what was it? Interception, interception, fumble, safety, fumble. God damn. So they haven't had a drive that didn't end in a

turnover or points for the other team. Still, still haven't punted yet though. Right. They have not punted yet. At least that's being still alive, baby. Maybe you could have three, the rest of the NFL can have three. So they literally punt once in this game. Right. So like what you're saying, I mean, it's like you, you, you dominate this first half, dominate, but they were a couple plays away from being a one score game going into halftime, which is scary in itself, especially how the, the game earlier in the season went when you blew a 21 point lead in six minutes and the, and their colts are known for this too. Like they, they were down two touchdowns to was the bucks earlier in this season on Monday night. Three, three, three touchdowns less than five

minutes. They actually mentioned it. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Three touchdowns with about five minutes left and they, they won that game. So being up 15, nothing halftime, it's nice, but it doesn't quite feel like enough, especially when, uh, Indy starts the second half with, first of all, kick return to midfield on the opening kickoff, then they converted fourth and one. And then this drive was like almost all runs as well. There was, there was no real pain manning in this and there's just like Edgar and James down their throat and he ends up running it in from like the three. So now it's 15, 70 and thinking, God damn it. Um, which is like a year of you were a couple of plays away from being a one point game. If they got a touchdown in that half,

right, or like strip that guy of the ball on the interception, they don't get those three points. Then you could be down too right now. Yeah. So this game is still very much in the balance. Um, and then Patriots again, settle for another field goal, even though they get inside the 15 from the nine hardline kickoff field goal. Yep. Actually, no, we're on the fourth delay of game and then kicked it from the nine. Right. Exactly. But then Indianapolis, they're only three and out. They're only punts of the game. So you're kind of like, okay, we're maybe like that first drive may have been a fluke. That's great. Maybe this defense is, is ready to hold again. Um, and then New England just starts running the ball like Antoine Smith in this game.

I think we said it's the last game or maybe it was like the last game of the season against the the, the bills where they, they ran it all down the throat and he looked like it was running like it was 2001 again. Same in this game. I don't know if there's like save his legs or something. It's the, it's the shit fields. It must be, but he doesn't have a lot of moves. But this, yeah, this offensive line played amazing too. I could, I could have ran for 75 yards in this game for sure. Yeah. And that's, that's, but that's with being tackled by the first guy to touch you. Like the, the offensive line, they were even mentioned it somewhere. It might have actually been right around here on some of these big Antoine Smith runs where the commentators

are talking about how the Patriots offensive linemen were high-fiving after the play because they had blocked it so well. Yeah, Phil, that was good comment commentary. It was like, it's never good when the offensive lines high-fiving. Exactly. Yeah, it was funny. Wasn't it Andy? Did you like it? Did it make you giggle? No, I fucking hated it. Yeah. We win two runs. We went from our 30 yard line to their 30, just back to back Antoine. Yeah. And it was gaping too. You get a drone. Yeah. Tractor trailer through those things. So then they kick another field goal, right? From the three, from the three yard line, kick a field goal. From the three yard line. Yeah. As you did. Just like any of these turning touchdowns, this game is an absolute blowout.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. But yeah. Oh, Antoine Smith, 22 carries 100 yards even. Nice day on the ground. I'll stat check it myself. Yeah. But so, so the Patriots, you know, have answered that touchdown with two long drives, but six points. So now we're up 21-7. And Colts get the ball back again. And Greg, you want to walk us through this drive? Oh, yeah. And then you're like, he hasn't thrown his required interception for every quarter of this game yet. True. And Peyton gets a little happy feet. You can tell he starts like forcing it at times in the scheme. Cause like a lot of these picks came when he's,

you could tell it was just like a frustration pick too. And he's all, he's on the move. He's like, this one, especially he's getting flushed out of the pocket. He's like rolling out to the side. So he gets, it's sacked the play before. It's a second and 17. He's got nothing. There's your down 24, 21-7, end of the third quarter. And he's just like, wham, wham. He tries to flick one out in the flat when there's a guy directly in his face, overthrows him and then tie the law again, just like following the play, not the guy he was covering fucking scoops in behind and just snags it as he rolls out of bounds. Second pick of the game.

I think Peyton was more surprised about this interception than the first one. He thought he had thrown it away safely. Even if the guy's not going to catch it, he thought he threw it out of bounds and there's time long diving to pick it off. Good luck blaming that on somebody, Peyton. Like, oh my God. Yeah, that one could not have been more Peyton Manning's fault. 48 minute Manning face if you're at, if you're So yeah, so that's a baseball 26 yard line up 21-7, end of the third quarter. Yep. Game's over. Right. Yeah. And New England, uh,

as that third half ends and the first fourth quarter begins, like New England's driving, they're inside the Indianapolis five. And this is where 48 drops yet another one of his, what should have been a touchdown. He hits him in the hands and just goes straight through him. Like it wasn't an easy catch, but it's an easy catch for an NFL player. It's something he's caught before drops it. Um, and then the drive ends with Brady throwing an interception in the end zone, which is his first interception at home all season. It's just a horrendous time to throw it to. In fact, yes.

Not having to pick a couple of times in this game, but this one wasn't his fault. Dietrich Ward running the slam. It wasn't his fault, dude. But fuck that. Why did he throw the ball? It's 21-7. You're on the five yard line. It's there again. A field goal buries this game and he tries to stick one into coverage to Dietrich Ward. What are you doing with that guy inside? I don't give a shit. You don't throw the ball if there's someone within five yards of him. Steve, it's not a great throw, but it was also very, very badly running out.

So this is his first... I mean, it's Dietrich Ward. I mean, it's not like blaming him. He's a neat player. Okay. He's neat. He was a neat pickup. So you shut your goddamn mom. If he ever writes an autobiography on the back of it, it will be great. Neat player, Greg Brown, on the quote on the back of this. It wasn't me. It was Tom. Yeah. Greg Brown via Phil Sims via Tom Brady. We'll just have you all quoting each other.

What a neat pickup that guy has been for us. He's neat. Apparently not that neat. Not neat anymore. But this is Tom Brady's first interception at home since 2002 versus Miami. That's a long fucking time. I mean, that's like the December before. Long ass time ago. It was his first interception at home in the last 330 passes and his first interception in the playoffs in the last 165 passes.

You knew he was going to throw one though when they put up a stat earlier in the game and I said, oh, he's hit 300 passes without throwing a 90 at home. Yeah. It's like saying they didn't punt the whole game. Yeah. They haven't punted for two games. Yep. Or Adam Minatteri hasn't missed all season. Yeah. Or Peyton Manning's QB rating is 158.3. Oh, yeah. So again, had a chance to step on the on the Colts next and just didn't.

Big turn over there. Really bad turnover. Yeah. And then on the next play as the Colts get the ball to 20, the next play, the referees missed the delay game by like two or three seconds. How do I know you're going to bitch about that? I watched that and I was going to be like, well, let me let me predict your next statement. You're going to bitch and Phil Sims for being like, oh, yeah, if there's a one second difference, the refs aren't going to call it, right? No, you fucking prove it. You have that written down in your notes.

You definitely have. And then it's going to the commentator, the anti commentator section. Yeah. I will, I will show you the commentator section. The only thing that makes Andy more mad that a missed call is when the commentator agrees with the missed call. It's the shit on top of shit. Commentator section. Empty. Oh, come on. Empty. Empty. I have something for the commentator. You just deleted that. I don't believe that.

Control Z. Oh, yeah, I fixed the typo. That was the last thing I've touched. I have something for the commentator section while we're on it. Well, hang on. Just to go back to Greg's point. What I was going to say is everybody bitching about how the pages and Tom Brady always get all the calls. Come on, Andy. Is it the lay a game on their own 20? That's yeah, no relevance. But no, instead, instead, they get a like 11 yard gain off at first down. Moving the ball already.

Yeah, fucked. The other the other two drives that they started without it, they didn't score. So how did this drive end up? They didn't score. Karma. That's why, Steve. Oh, karma for cheating. You'd never catch the Patriots cheating. So Peyton Manning, the cheater that he is will pay the price for this.

Well, backing up a step. Did you see Ty Law and Harrison getting a little feisty on the sidelines when Brady threw that pick? No. Yeah, they showed it to even before. I think it was actually the drop by Fourier. Those two are on the sidelines like huffing and puffing and being like, OK, yes, that's what it was. Yeah. I thought that was like pretty interesting. Yeah, it was almost like the defense was like it felt like they they realized that

this game was on them to win. Yeah. After that, after that, like end of that series, the end of that drive and they made they had already made enough plays to win the game. Oh, just in the first half alone. Yeah. All right. Like any points there.

And it's over. Sears Starcruiser. See, you can start cruising. Yeah, we just gave you three score game, gave you the ball, the thirty one yard line, and then you turn that into zero points like a net eleven yards. Like what the fuck exactly? What are you going to say about the commentator, Steve? I'll save that for my best.

OK. All right. This drive might be my favorite defensive drive in in Patriots history. Yeah. Uh, so you've been teasing a Eugene Wilson game. I told you guys. This is your Eugene Wilson. Is this the one I told you ages ago.

So the best part is I didn't know it was coming. Wait, wait, wait. So you're telling me that the reason you bought a Eugene Wilson jersey is from what? Was the tie law game. Was the tie law game. Yes, right. Well, I already had the O4 tie law Pro Bowl jersey. So I would you are currently wearing for our listeners.

You can't see you. Yes. Yeah. That jersey. It's a pretty good. But the interest I I I I've been looking for these these plays for multiple years, maybe a decade, and they don't exist on YouTube except for embedded in this two hour. They will just go up fine.

There's no Eugene Wilson highlight package because no one even knows who Eugene Wilson is. We will. We will make that package. We are going to be distinctly remember like two huge hits in the snow against Indy. But I had convinced myself by this point, I was like, that must have been next year's AFC conference game. Yeah. No, no.

Yeah. I confuse those two because I thought there was a Teddy Bruce you play in this game. And it wasn't. It's in the next one. Right. But yes, Brandon Stokely coming over the middle. And I audibly gasped. I did too.

It happened. It was like he catches. He's the most defenseless receiver you've ever seen. Almost as soon as he turns his A. You know, Brandon Stokely, too. He looks like a fucking. That's milker. He looks like a public account.

He looks like a podcast is what he looks like. And he just gets absolutely demolished. This is like a feeling out of your teeth. Yeah. But it was like shoulder directly to the middle of your chest. Yeah. Yeah. No flag.

No, this is perfect. Especially back then. I mean, I think that now it would have been a flag just from the defensive receiver perspective. Immediate flag in today's NFL. Yeah. That one when a head snaps like that because he got that that whiplash head effect, right? He hit him with the shoulder directly in the chest, but Stokely's head goes. I'm not the dry.

It was it was all pain. He was the one who threw that ball. He let him right into the safety. Yeah. Which you've been kind of doing. Yeah, he's. Then he's forcing. He's down.

He's like flustered. He's he's confused. Yeah, he's confused. He's making late reads and he's fucking forcing balls and almost took Stokely's head off. So you separate it. No less than two plays later. Oh, what happens? He's got Marvin Harrison going down the sidelines and he does one of those like

try and drop it in the bucket throws. Yep. Or it was Reggie Wayne and and Reggie Wayne does that little like I'm going to catch it. Sees out of the corner of his eye was going on and like T Rexel arms it. Yeah. And then Eugene Wilson just comes in and absolutely topples him. Just buckles him, dude. That one might have been harder than the first one.

It was like and it was midair massive hits within three plays. And it was just like, holy shit. So for like, if we have like new listeners who haven't seen this game, like maybe they became pages fans afterwards or something, just think of any launching penalty you've seen in the NFL on defense. It was that minus the flag to the point where the commentators are even like arguing about whether it should be. It was clean because he didn't use his head.

He used his shoulder. He got him kind of like right on the collarbone area. Yeah. So the hit location was clean, but he was defenseless like he just. Yeah, both of them. Yeah. Yeah. And actually because like Sims was arguing, he's like, oh, no, that was definitely clean.

Like he didn't. He didn't use his head. He used his shoulder, his head's like way out of the way. And then what's his name? The other guy's like, yeah, but I think they were talking about that. It was the receiver is defenseless. And he goes, oh, I think you could only move. On to the next play.

And he could hit one. You couldn't hit him in the head though. He had a different. It was a shoulder directly in the face mask. Yeah. It was those guys right around. And he launched into it. It was just like.

But I mean, and to, to read your Wayne's credit, he popped right back up. But Jesus, I don't think I would have. I would have just been like, just dig me a grave here. I'm not moving. It was. Stokely comes back too. Cause he was in it. Stokely immediately was like, get me out.

Yeah. Stokely needed a break. Like sometimes when you see those ones now though, like the helmet to helmet ones, it's like. Not cool. These were cool. Yeah. I'll say these were injuries.

These might not be cool to say this, but it was cool to watch. This would be called targeting in, uh, in college football these days. Oh yeah. He's, he would have been able to make the second one because he would have been ejected. Well, in his offense, he's playing within the rules of the time. True. Oh yeah.

Absolutely. Coach that way. And that's the way the game. And you're playing the Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Peyton man, Colts. Right. And that's like part of your game plan is to be physical. Right. Yeah.

Is to make them pay for anything, which is what you did ever since like the 2001 Super Bowl, where you did it with. Yeah. And they've been doing it all game too. They have been very physical all game. Very physical. Yeah. And the Colts receivers have been getting very frustrated.

They're very decapitated. And very oatmeal brain. I just watch it again. It's awesome. But it's, it's literally one of those plays that make you go, oh, when you're watching real time, like, oh, I didn't see him coming because he comes out of nowhere. I did. I audibly gassed.

Yeah. I did on both of them. I was like, oh, Lordy. Goodness. Goodness grief. Grief, as dad would say. Goodness grief. So after, after Eugene's finished decleting wide receivers,

many get sacked on third, which pushes them out of field goal range. And so now it's fourth and the country mile. And there's no country strong boys, co-MVPs in this game. So Manning on fourth down. Greg, do you want to walk us through this? Yeah. I think this is, this might be my favorite of the three. Tyler and reception.

I'm going to ask you. I mean, it's fourth down and he's kind of like trying to stick one in there. But, and it's like a, he's going to the corner, right? It's like a inseam to out corner for Harrison. And Tyler Laws got his back to Manning. And then the throws coming like right by his shoulder. And he like whips his head around and just like immediately reacts to the ball. I think it was the, that's like his true ball skills coming to play there.

And he just snags it, turns around, starts doing his typical Tyler law thing where he runs around for like 30 seconds and get falling over himself without getting touched. Yeah. Did you see it on the replay where it looked like he was passing off more of an, he was like pointing to the, to the safety. Yeah. To the safety. Oh, yeah, yeah.

He turns his head around, sees the ball's coming. I was like, well, walk that. Yeah. Cause he knew that the ball was coming that way, but he thought it was going to be up and over him. Yeah. So he completes his hat trick. Yeah.

Third of the night, fourth for Manning overall. All three pretty nice interceptions. And the best part is Marvin Harrison has three receptions, 19 yards and a fumble in this game. The guy who had 94 catches for 1300 yards and 10 touchdowns in the season has three catches as many as Tyler. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So we're yards in that too.

Marvin Harrison, three catches, 19 yards. Tyler, three catches, 26 yards. There you go. That's awesome. Troy Walters, who we'll touch on in a minute. Three catches, 30 yards. Probably should have had 31 if you want this game to continue, but we'll get there. I love better offensive player than Marvin Harrison, notably.

Yeah. I would agree. Yeah. He's a more favorite, uh, Peyton Manning target. Same catches, more yards, no fumbles. It's pretty clear. Yeah, I would say so. So this comes right off the heels of that pretty bad interception, where the cult starts storming down

and then you get Eugene Wilson, Hugh Chet, Eugene Wilson, Hugh Chet, Tyler Pick. Yeah. And it's just like that is just as a kid who was like, those are my two favorite players on this team was Eugene Wilson and Tyler. That's right. Like that is heaven. That drive is your victory. Heaven.

Mom, mom, I need a Eugene Wilson jersey. Yeah, exactly. I already got the Pro Bowl one, Greg. Well, Santa. Yeah, right. And I was like, what do you mean, Santa can't get me Eugene Wilson jersey? Santa's magic. Why doesn't he just fucking make one in his workshop, mom?

Yeah. Get one of the God damn elves to do it. God damn sense. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. And so the Patriots don't do much kind of on offense the rest of this game.

They go freeing out after this. But at this point, they're almost like starting to try and run clock. So there's like running the ball, whatever they can with whoever they have left. Antoine Smith, Kevin Falk doesn't matter. The Colts managed to put together a touchdown drive. They're in desperation mode this one. They're down 21, still down 21-7. Yeah, it's like not desperation.

Yeah. Six minutes left. Yeah, there's like five minutes left and Peyton's getting battered. And they're running the hurry up like no huddle just like, and Manning's not like doing all his like movement stuff. He's like getting the line, snapping the ball as quickly as he can and just like going for it. So they eventually managed to score a late touchdown. Manning to Pollard wasn't easy and took a lot more time than I think they wanted it.

Because this was Steve to Steve's point was where they started talking about how, well, remember that game where they were down three touchdowns with five minutes left and they still came back and won it. And so they're trying to do that here and they just can't. It was shaky. It was touching. It was. Yeah.

So at this point, but now it's 21-14. Yes. Yeah. Two and a half minutes left. Yeah. But Fourier kind of redeems himself a little bit, I would say, by recovering the onsite kick, caught it clean. And this onsite kick, it felt very like typical Vanderjacht who was like,

oh, I'm so much smarter than these guys watch this. I'm going to trick them because so they all like huddled. And you could tell the Patriots knew what was coming because instead of doing like, you know, when you usually see an onsite kick, everybody spreads out within like five yards, but all the way across the field. They were all huddled like inside the inside the hash marks, like everybody except for two deep guys like Troy Brown and Kevin Faulk or someone deep. And then everybody else was just like kind of milling around right in the middle of the field.

And what the Coles decided to do was Vanderjacht just like broke out of the huddle and just kicked it right at the Patriots. And it kicked it right at Fourier, who just caught it and fell to the ground. Like no bounds. No, nothing. Just kicked it right at him. And the Patriots recovered the onsite kick. Let's try to outsmart themselves.

I don't know. Yeah, you got to try shit like that on size cake. Yeah, that shit only works on the Browns though. Yeah. Yeah. But like you could tell that they knew it was coming. So just be like, all right, you know what? Fuck this.

Let's just do the regular onsite kick. Like I'm sure they practice that too. But I'm with Greg. He got to try that shit. Have you seen the guy, the the fat like Spanish looking guy that is like all these viral videos of him doing his special onsite kick? No. And he keeps being like, yo, hire me NFL.

He's, he's this guy that has figured out a way to like, he kicks it directly at the ground right in front of him. And it takes like a huge hop. Yeah. And enough that he can just keep running forward and like catch the ball. You 10 yards downfield. So he's got all these videos of him like, you'll kick it, you'll run, you'll open a car door and the ball go into the car door and they don't close it.

And it'll be like, yo, Eagles, sign me. These are all these, they're actually like, they got me thinking. All right. Maybe we should sign this guy. Got him this guy for sure. He's not an ad love. I love kicker kicker. Trick shot videos.

They're the best. Yeah. And if you're talking about an onsite kick, it's like the same skill every time. Right. If you could figure out like one that works, that's pretty valuable. Yeah. Although I have to imagine you could probably get somebody like a Gostowski or a Venetieri. Do you like, all right, see what this guy's doing on a video?

How long it'll take you to learn that? Which makes me wonder why they haven't done that. Maybe they've tried it. It doesn't work as well as it looks. I don't know. I don't know. He's pretty sad. This guy has hit a half-core basketball shot with an onsite kick here.

Damn. All right. I'll have a second video. We'll put in the show notes. Let's get this guy on the hook. Get him on the pod. He looks like a real great interviewer, too. He does, right?

Well, Colts fucked up. Didn't hire him. He was a kid at this point, too. Yeah. So the pay is to get the ball. And New England, again, just starts to run it down the Colts' throat, just trying to waste as much time as possible. Actually, they don't, they throw it, remember? Oh, yeah.

Okay. On this drive, yeah. Because suspect. A little bit suspect. Yeah. Two and a half minutes left. So you got it on there, 44. Yeah.

But the Colts have three time outs. Right. So you run it first down, throw it second down, which gets batted down. Third down, great throw to Troy Brown down the seam, who's lined up against the linebacker. But the linebacker makes an incredible play and just knocks it out of his hands.

Oh, there's a drop. Troy did have it. Now that, I think that defender made a great play. He did a great play for the situation. It was in, but Troy had him beat and he should have had that. Yeah. Not a great throw. Not a great throw? It's on Brady.

Definitely one to Troy Brown. If you want anybody to believe you need to be there, didn't know that was, that play was on Troy, even Troy Brown himself would say that was his fault. No, of course he would say that about everything. Even if it wasn't. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure he would, but this one wasn't.

He down tried, Troy knows that's his fault. No, that's, this one wasn't. I just agree. And you know what? And you know what? I will, I will, I will not take Troy Brown slander on this podcast from either of you. I'm not going to play like that.

I am just, these are the facts. They're liable. It's liable. It's liable. They're facts. Right. It's liable. This is slander.

Andy, you realize that you're like, you're like the people that show up at the fucking capital trying to break in and still in the center. Right. You're like, what? I've doesn't matter what the truth is. I believe what my brain wants me to believe. And that's the end of the matter.

You're absolutely wrong. Same thing with anti-mass, Andy. You were just, I'm just actually watching. You were used to hear everything like pro-mask. You're like, nope. That's just fake. No, no. They're the fact that I have created in my head.

See, now I would agree with you on this point. If the garbage that was being spewed wasn't coming from the two of you who have iffy track records in general, like if this was coming from, if Bill Belichat came out and said, you know what, that was on Troy. Be like, yeah, all right, fine. If Troy came out and said, you know what, that was on me.

I'm like, you're not Troy. I believe you. But the two of you, two of you were garbage. Steve Brown started this podcast, being like, oh, no, these commentators are great. And now look at you. Yeah. Okay.

And Greg Brown. I say they're good when they're good. And they're bad. The first game you've watched in a season and a half. So now all of a sudden you're an expert on each individual play. That's it. Why you said it? It's like challenges to your worldview of setting to you.

No, you're safe space. You snowflake. This is what I'm saying. This is not a challenge. Snowflake. Anything because it's coming from YouTube. You soy boy. You fucking cuck baby.

You're libtard. Libtard. Oh, cool. Beep that. Is that okay? Very naughty. Sometimes a naughty boy. That is being naughty.

Are we allowed to say half of words like that? I don't think so. What about this? Is this okay? No. No. No. Very naughty.

Very naughty indeed. Mom, what do you think? Just know that. Sometimes a naughty boy. That was hilarious in a visual medium. What I just did. Yeah. But we'll never see the light of day.

Maybe better not. So after, I don't even remember what we were talking about. Yeah. So the Patriots, Patriots got the ball after the... Oh, we were talking about Troy Brown dropping that ball in conversion. Butterfingers Brown over there, blowing the game for the Patriots. Oh, just go free it out and punt for the second time of the game. This is what if Ty Law got to intercept another one for Amanda.

Is that what's going to happen? It does he? No, he doesn't. No. So three. That would have been sweet. Yeah. The Colts at this point have the ball back at their own 20 with two minutes left.

Like exactly two minutes left. They go the elusive four and out. Yeah. I believe they don't get any yards. Zero yards, four incompletions. So the Patriots start... He's still playing the whole time about Marcus Pollard being held. Yeah.

Because he goes in twice on third and fourth. And it was... But they've been called. If they had been called, that would have been a soft call because it was contact, but it was 50-50. I'm sure Greg disagrees, but I don't give a fuck. They've been letting it go all game. Yeah.

And then... So the Patriots started the game. So the Patriots start at the 20. Run it three times. The third time is a Tom Brady naked boot leg. Get sniffed out. Tom Brady tries to juke the one defender that's out there with him. Falls over and almost funnels the ball away.

So this call, I had a huge problem with the slant in the end zone. I'm okay with that. Yeah. The naked boot inside the 20, when you all you need to do is kick a fucking field goal to win this game with Tom fucking Brady. What are you doing? Why? I'm all right with the call.

My problem with it is that Tom Brady doesn't go down like a sack of potatoes as soon as that defender goes out with him. He does, though. I mean, he's saved from the fumble because he goes down like a sack of potatoes. Well, no. I mean, like, without... Like, he should have just fallen down, slid, taken the loss, and that's it. But instead, he tries to beat the guy.

Should have been in a position. He gets taken down and then the ball gets ripped out. But luckily, as he was down already, because he's such a bad runner. He says, yeah, he was saved by that. That would have been. If Peyton gets that ball, he's taking that to the house. Right. Because it's still a seven-point game.

Five seconds left on his 15-yard line. Doesn't matter if he has timeouts or not. He's going to take that and score a touchdown and tie this game up. Yeah. So instead, the page, they're able to kick a field goal. So now they're up 10. On the six-yard line. Right.

This game's over. Game's over. But it ends, I think, in a perfect way. Because the Colts are driving, trying to, I don't know, put garbage time score up or something. You're not going to give up because it's a playoff. So you're still close-ish. Right.

You never know. But on fourth down, Manning completes a... It's like fourth and 10, and Manning completes a pass to Troy Walters. For like, it was like a five-yard completion. Troy Walters has enough room to go get the first down, but instead steps out of bounds, a yard short of the line to game. And so he gains nine yards on fourth and 10, and his turnover and downs. Game over.

The perfect way to end this game. Yeah. His bonehead. But when everybody in the stadium thought the game was over, including the people who were, like, wheeling on the stage to present the AFC Championship trophy, and the Patriots still had to roam one more plate and kneel to actually officially end it, because there was, like, three seconds left.

So everybody ran on the field, and they had to, like, move everybody off. And you could tell Belichick was, like, pissed, because he's the only one that recognized what was going on. He was, like, dragging people off the field and stuff. But a great way to end the... This season, the going undefeated at home. They went 10-0 at home, these New England Patriots. Which is a pretty impressive stat.

What else? Adam Minitary tied the playoff record for five field goals in a playoff game. Tied, like, three interceptions. Yeah. Tied for seconds in the NFL with three interceptions in a playoff game. David Gibbons. Somebody else had four, who's somebody I don't recognize. David Gibbons continues his NFL streak of playoff games with a touchdown. Does he?

Does he have, like, a super long streak of playoff games with TDs? Like, seven or eight? Oh, I don't know. Maybe. Yeah, look this up. Christian Fourier continues his... He continues the Patriots streak of dropped passes by New England tight ends. Okay. Is that your worst, Eddie?

Are we doing bests and worsts here? I guess so. No, that can't be my worst, because I always start off on the positive, no. The man has, say, dropped QBR rating of over 100 points. Yeah, well, what did he finish with, Greg? 23 of 47, 237 yards. One touchdown, four picks, four sacks, rating of 35.5. 35.5.

Day. He was bad. He was really bad. Yeah. Harrison, three catches, 19 yards. No one really on the receiving corner did good. I think they should have... Pollard did all right, but...

Edgerton James was like, they, like, had that one drive where he was running really well. Right at the beginning of the second half, and then they just didn't give him the ball again. Yeah. One of those sloppy, like, grinded out kind of games in the playoffs. Like, Edgerton James was really good and he was definitely getting some space there. Peyton Man too smart for his own good though, wanted to force the ball. Fucking things out to drive for a bunch of picks. Absolutely.

All right. Do you want to do best and worst? Well, can we talk about tie law? Oh, you want to talk about tie? Yeah, give it to me. This is a tie law honorary episode here. You know, it's true. We've never really gone too far into depth about tie law.

We haven't. So I said, let's give him a little historical context. How many pages do we have here? I hope they're coming because it's on the right. On a cold snowy day in December 1985. No. He's from Aliquipa, Pennsylvania. In who else went to his high school?

That sounds familiar. I'm using this funny stat. Multiple people. Randy Moss, one of them? No. No. Mike Dicka, Tony Dorsett and Dorel Rivas. Oh, Dorel Rivas.

Yes. And Press Marovitch, Pete Marovitch. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So he went, I grew up in Pennsylvania, went to Michigan, was an All-American at Michigan, 23rd overall picked by the Patriots in 1995. He, so he played, I mean, he's part of that original throwback team,

all the bloods out teams. He went to the Super Bowl against the Packers. Yeah. Five-time Pro Bowler, two-time All-Pro. He had 53 career interceptions, seven touchdowns. He's in the Patriots Hall of Fame and the Pro Football Hall of Fame as of a couple of years ago. Is he in the Jets Hall of Fame?

No. Nope. We should induct Rivas into ours though. So I got a list of quarterbacks that Ty Law intercepted. Okay. Because he guys spanned multiple generations. So he's got some sick names on here. So can we guess how many are on that, Steve?

You and me? Oh, I only have the Notables. Oh, all right, never mind. All right, give me the Notable names then, never mind. All right. First career interception was Jim Kelly. Damn. Good way to start your career.

Dan Marino. Of course. Steve Young. Troy Aitman. Boomer Seizen. Steve McNair. Phil Revers. Peyton, obviously.

And of course, Tom Brady and Drew Blutzo. Yes. Oh, beautiful. Peyton. He loved picking off Peyton. Oh, God, yeah. How many did he have? He had a career total of nine interceptions of Peyton Manning.

He really was his favorite receiver. Five of which were in the playoffs. Oh, my God. And how many were returned for touchdowns? At least one, I can remember. He may have had two off of Peyton for touchdowns. Yeah, I don't know. So he actually had two when he was on the Chiefs in 0-6,

if you remember that. Oh, that's right. Yeah, it's like a wild card game. Yeah, he's getting old, picked him off twice in the playoffs again. They got 25. Peyton has 25 career postseason interceptions. Five of them are from Taiwan. How many of them are from Patriots, I wonder, just in general?

Because obviously he's got another one with Ron Harrison. Well, Greg just said some of those were when he's at the Chiefs against Peyton. Oh, that's true, too. Yep. Still great. He picked off both the Co-MVPs this year, right? Because he got McNair in the regular season then. So he had four picks against the two MVPs in one season.

It's not bad. When Belichick was asked about it and we said, yeah, I mean, the guy that has a rule named after him is probably pretty good. The Thai Law rule is kind of like a result of this game. This specific game, yeah, because Bill Polian thought that Thai Law was getting a little too handsy with his babies and decided to institute a rule that you couldn't do that anymore. Right.

The post five yards contact thing, right? Just not allowed anymore. Yep. That's an awesome quote from Belichick. Yeah, it really is. And also about how he's just like a cool dude. I got to watch a bunch of interviews of them and he's just funny. He's like cocky, but not...

It's not a dick about it. Eva cocky, you know? Yeah. Yeah, he's not wider-sever cocky. Yeah, yeah. He sold Brady his first home before Brady was a starter. Yep. Because they were both Michigan boys.

So when Brady moved here, he sold him a home and he was like, yeah, I probably took like a hundred thousand dollar bath on it because of all I gave it to him furnished. But he's like, hey, he's a Michigan boy. What are you going to do? That's awesome. Yeah. He told a good story to about after the snowball last year against the Raiders.

He's good buddies with Charles Woodson. Oh, right. Him and Charles used to meet up after every game they'd play each other. And he said he went looking for him by the bus after that game. And Woodson wasn't there. He was already on the bus. So Tyler went into the Raiders' bus after the snowball. I was like, what's up, buddy?

And he was like, nah, I ain't about that shit tonight. Not tonight. And he was like, yeah, it's because you got your ass whooped. And he's like, and then I ran my ass off that bus as fast as I could. Oh, beautiful. Yeah. I think Brian Mori, who we had on the podcast a while ago, the guy from the Page of Tall of Fame,

he does his patch from the past podcast. And I think they had Tyler on there as well. And it was a really good interview. I think I actually told that story on it. Yeah. It's fantastic. Yeah. He's just a legend.

Just a cool guy played with so much swag. Like that's what like jumps out at me is like. Yeah. Just oozes confidence of all he's playing. And that's what I think he was like my favorite player is like. Every part of the game, too. Like he wasn't afraid. He could tackle with the best of them.

He can cover with the best of them. His instincts never seem to fail him. Like he never seems to make a wrong decision. And he's just the way he plays, too, you know. Yeah. Brian. The biggest moments. Like this game is a huge game.

Huge game. It's the best quarterback. He has three picks. This Super Bowl. He has a pick six. Like every time you need to tie a lot to make a play, you made a play. There he is.

And like a big play, though, Mike. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It's like the Tom Brady gene, right? Yeah. Tom Brady's that same thing is when you need to play, you can trust Brady.

He always like exceeds your expectations rather than like letting you down in a big moment. Yeah. And Tyler was always like that for me, too. I agree. All right. To Tyler. Nick named Tee Leasy.

I hope not. I saw this like Zoom thing. I'm like, you know, is your name on there? Like before you log on, it just said Tee Leasy. Tyler's Zoom thing? Yeah. Yeah. Tee Leasy.

What? Tee Lease. Tee Leasy. Boy. All right. Let's do best and worst. I've been going for quite a while here. Steve, you want to go first?

Yeah. Should I go negative since or no? Do what you want. First in this house? You do what you want. It's your house. You can buy a commentator one that I said earlier. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. You know, I've been on this crusade about Phil Sims sexually harassing Armin Cotayin. Yes. He does it again in this game. I don't know if he caught it. I didn't. I missed it.

Is there a kickoff? Yeah. He said, I think those coaches got Armin a little fired up. You know? And like in a vacuum doesn't sound that creepy, you know? But he says it like after the kickoff is already happening and you're like interjects at right at the end and just all like the feet things you've been talking about

is like, what do you mean fired up? Dude, I noticed one too. Oh, you heard another one about it? Well, I think it was that one. I can't remember the exact wording. But I remember thinking like the way he said it like was so suggestive. Yes.

And then Armin like didn't respond to it. It was like, oh God, this is weird. And then they get the ball off. And then he's like sitting there thinking about it. He just like makes a weird sexual. Just like stewing in it. Yeah, it's like felt like sexual tension. Something going on.

It's nice. And then my best was, I don't know which of the coaches it was that you saw on the sideline. But one of the current coaches, the Steve or Brian, gave like Belichick a hug right after as he like picks him up. And they're like, I'll celebrate on the sideline. He's like, I don't know. He must be like 13 maybe in this game.

Yep. Yep. Probably. He's young, maybe younger. Yeah. Yeah, probably your guys age at that time. There's a featured coach. That's right.

Yeah. Now he's coaching. He's the defensive play caller. It's fantastic. It's really cool. All right. Greg, do you even want to do best and worst? I feel like your best three best.

My third best was Tyler's second interception. I wanted to overthrow that he scooped. My second best was his first interception, the one handed one, where he's coming back towards his own hands on. And my best was his third interception that spin around. Boop, right in his thing. Game sealer. And was your worst not knowing how to find the Eugene Wilson hits?

It doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. It does on the website multiple times. It went along the website. Yeah. Yeah, but up to that point, didn't it? It's true. Well, that's why we're here.

We're providing a service. Exactly. We are doing the whole world a favor here. All right. That was my background for ages. That's why I knew that play exists. It was the second hit where he's like, he's crushing Wayne. That was like, that was my background on my computer

for like a long ass time. That's a great intro. First computers, too, because. That's a great intro. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. All right.

My best was Charlie Weiss's halftime show because Armageddon was given permission to sit in on the like the halftime, which is the Patriots halftime locker room, which is what made the other comment later creepy too. That's like a little bit. But apparently Charlie Weiss halftime said, we have to give them no reason for hope on offense,

which didn't work on offense, but on defense. It absolutely did. I was down that fell and it kind of like went back to all the things we were saying. Like they need to just like step on their neck and Charlie Weiss recognized it, but we have to give them no reason for hope. It's such a great.

They were the defensive players are so hot and bothered on the sideline because he said that in the locker room, they had the chance and I throw the interception. I guess you pick inside the red zone and you throw that interception in the red zone. Like you can't give them any hope. They're giving them hope now. And even like Tom Brady's attempting to fumble it

on the naked bootleg would have given them hope. Yeah, they did for a second until the play got overturned. Yeah. Yeah. This game legit should have been a blowout. Yeah, I agree. And my worst was Dwight Freeney. Who? Oh, yeah. I read that.

You heard his name when they were announcing the rosters and not again. Yeah. Compared to like in the last game when they played honestly, it's got to be a turf. And he was just running past people on the turf. And they were talking about how even before the game, he was Dwight Freeney was already frustrated because he

I think he knew what kind of game it's going to be because like you said, it's going to be on the sloppy field. Brady gets rid of the ball really quickly. So he's like, I don't have a chance. Like you can't get to a quarterback like that. And we're going to run the ball at you and make you play run in style, which is exactly what he doesn't want to do. And then lastly, I'm going to put this in the show notes.

But I don't know if either of you caught this, but the commentators actually made a comment about it because when they cut to like the fans, so it was like coming back from commercial, something like that. And they showed this one dude. And they're making a comment about like, oh, you should wear that. But this is the picture, guys. How have you caught this?

But it's supposed to look like a bear skin or something on your head. But it looks literally like this guy has like skinned his own dog and is wearing that. Like the look on this face of this animal that he's wearing. Where it looks like his dog is just like, he's like holding this dog like a backpack. It could actually be his dog. Yeah, he's like, all right, dog, it's time to keep me warm.

Get on my back and put your head on top of my head. But that whole face and everything with the ears and all of it, it's just. It's just perfect. Like New England person for this game with the with the shitty weather. And it's like, you know what, I think the weather is going to suck. So I'm going to wear the dog out. Life's like, you can't wear that on public. You might even get on TV.

And then like this dude's on TV. They commented that you're talking about what he's wearing. It's like, oh, you poor bastard. Love it. Did you spot the clouds corner banner in the end zone? I saw that. I was like, what the hell? Let's get my baby.

My clouds. Like, yeah, I thought I love the banner to him. But come on, let's get a little more creative with that with that name. You know, cloud nine something. Yeah, anything other than clouds corner. Let's get cloud as would have been mine, obviously. Yeah, we know. All right.

Hey, hey, you, you get off my cloud. I was a Chris Kerman. He's a BC guy though, right? That's why he probably liked them because he didn't do anything this year. He had two games where he ran for a couple of touchdowns each game. That was it. You look fine. I thought he looked really good.

Yeah. I was always getting cloudy. But that's it for the 2003 AFC championship game against the Indianapolis Colts. Or what's left of them after this beatdown. So next week, the page will return to the Super Bowl for the second time under Bill Belichick in three years, the makings of a dynasty, according to Phil Sims. So we will see what happens then. Where are we going?

Where are we traveling? Next week, the Browns are taking this podcast to the Super Bowl. Steve. See what I did there? I did it. We are heading to Reliant Stadium. Houston. Hey, Houston.

Houston sucks. Right. The last time we were in Houston, the Patriots were getting a little bit manhandled by the Upstart Texans who were not good at this season. Speaking of getting manhandled to Houston, how about that DeSean Watson stuff going around? Sometimes a naughty boy. Very naughty. All right.

So we've muted Greg. Very naughty. Very naughty. Very, very naughty. No, I literally muted you. We can't hear what you're saying, Greg. This is nice. That's good.

I was saying you got to have your fucking mute finger quick on me. Yeah, no shit. God damn it. All right. Well, on that note, I have some editing to do. And while I do that, we will see you later. See you later. See you later.