Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2003 AFC Divisional: Patriots vs Titans

Episode Date: March 30, 2021

The last time the Titans visited Gillette Stadium this season, the Patriots started their 13-game win streak. This time Tennessee is playing with a co-MVP at the helm. Jeff Fisher thinks he's "nailed"... the game plan in order to avenge their week 5 loss to New England, but the Patriots have other ideas. Join the Brown brothers as they brave the cold and bring you the 2003 AFC Divisional game.Notes:Here's the game link in case you'd like to watch the game or the highlights.Other games this weekend: Colts at ChiefsOther games this weekend: Panthers at RamsDon't forget to text us your thoughts on the Dynasty Hotline! Let us know what you think about this game or anything else. (603) 505-8043Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to another Patriots Dynasty podcast. I'm your host Andy Brown with me are the brothers Brown. Steve Brown. How's it going? Great. Great to be back in the playoffs. Damn right. Yeah. Back in the playoffs. It has been so long since we've done a playoff episode, a whole season. Sorry. And also Greg Brown from
Starting point is 00:00:46 Vacationland USA. Live from South Carolina. Yeah. Pork country. Some Summerton went down to my local Piggly Wiggly, picked up some, you know, pork butts, some fried giblets, some pig skins. Yeah. Yeah. They legit had a five pound bag of pork skin. That's a lot of pork skin. How many do you think is what is five pounds of pork skin? Is that just one big, big thing was probably the size of my torso. The whole bag itself. Oh my God. I think a pig has more than five pounds of skin. I mean, they're heavy. I don't know. Depends how fat, right? Stat check. I don't know. I don't know if we do that sort of stat check. I don't know what
Starting point is 00:01:46 to type in. Speaking of pig skin, we're here to talk about some football like that. That's really good. Yeah. Yeah. Not warm weather football, though. This is about as cold as it gets. This is the divisional round playoffs. 2003 AFC divisional round. Patriots hosting the Tennessee Titans and co-MVP Steve McNair. Country strong. Steve McNair. Air McNair. Air McNair. Nat McNair. So what did you think of it? Well, actually, let's let's talk about the weather. That's the the. All right. I sort of forgotten about this game because the next game really overshadows it. And you said to me as a coldest game in pages
Starting point is 00:02:30 history, it's debatable. Yeah. Yeah, it's one of like it's one of the coldest games ever. There's like a few games that are all within like a degree or two. So I guess it depends on what your calibration on your thermometer is, right? Which if you're going by the guy in the stands, who I think is probably one of the best props I've seen at a football game, you had one of those like, you know, the white thermometer, like the circular ones with the red arrow, but the arrow had broken off. I'm just sitting at the bottom of it, which is perfect. It looks like it's saying negative 60, but it's just like it fell off.
Starting point is 00:03:07 It's so cold. Yeah, but that cold, though. No one seemed to be like eight in life out there. I don't know. But like, I don't know. No one seemed to be it didn't seem to affect the game as much because I mean, there was some drop passes, I think, due to cold fingers. But I think the people that affected most were our commentators. Well, let's talk about that. Let's before we jump right into the commentator.
Starting point is 00:03:33 And he couldn't fucking wait to talk up. He's fucking going to pick let's give him the historical context here. This game at kickoff is two degrees Fahrenheit Fahrenheit, not Celsius, two degrees Fahrenheit, Fahrenheit, the negative 11 with windshield. Yeah. So this is like, I've been to a couple of super cold games. Yeah, like I went to Patriots Broncos in 2013, that one where we came back on Manny. Oh, yeah, I was so fucking cold during that game. So I looked it up.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I'm like, it's got to be like pretty comparable. It was twenty two in that. I'm like, I feel like a bitch. Oh, my God. Yeah. So then I went to twenty seventeen New Year's Eve past Jets. It was a pretty forgettable game, but it was thirteen degrees Fahrenheit. And I remember I went into that game thinking there's no way I'm going to end up like I did at that Broncos game.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And I was like, I was like, I was just like a ball of jacket and sweater. I really had like fifteen layers on as I ain't no way I'm getting cold. And it worked. All right. All right. But still, if you're a football player, you can't do that. So you're playing in two degrees is like is unbearable. Yeah. And you could kind of see it too. Like there weren't a lot of like like the in the running game. There weren't a lot of like big tackles.
Starting point is 00:05:02 It was just kind of like grab the guy and kind of push him to the ground. There was no like heavy hitting in this. I didn't think except for Rodney Harrison, because he's he's an absolute psychopath. But other than that, it the game felt like it was going a little bit more slow motion. Just because the game is just more the style of the Titans and the Patriots. It was a tight game. It was like real close contested, you know, yeah, run the ball a lot. Did you ever play football in the cold, Andy?
Starting point is 00:05:32 You could really run. Yeah, it sucked. It sucks. Yeah, I was going to say, I played soccer in the cold and it blows. I can't even imagine what it feels like to play football. It's awful because your hands go first. And so if you're a skills player, you're fucked. Like you're going to drop everything
Starting point is 00:05:50 because you just you can't move your fingers anymore. And then any like contact with open skin. It has that like stabbing feeling, you know, like all the the tiny little needles and stuff just like shoot straight out from wherever you got hit. And it's just it's awful. Sounds just like you're like a little bitch, though. I mean, yeah, that's why that's why I switched over to soccer. And found other ways to injure myself instead of this.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Yeah. So I don't have as many concussions, but my knees are garbage. I don't know. I was just saying, I was expecting it to be like the ice ball. We all have seen that highlight. And the other didn't seem like that cold. Well, they put up a graphic cold, coldest games in NFL history. The ice ball was negative 13. And I'm assuming I'm assuming these numbers are are not with windshield. But negative 13 is fucking cold.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And then there was an 81 AFC championship game was negative nine San Diego at Cincinnati. I don't know. I don't know anything about this game. And God all in and say San Diego did not win that being from Southern California, coming to play negative nine. And then the 93 AFC divisional playoff game Raiders at Buffalo was zero degrees. So those are, I think, the three colder games in this. What's the temperature? There isn't one. Nope.
Starting point is 00:07:19 You don't want to know. So every time, every time, I mean, we've told the story about me failing out of Penn State. So every time I get in the car and my car thermometer says it's zero degrees, I always text my wife and say, what does the temperature today and my time at Penn State have in common? No degrees. She didn't even think it was only the first time. So I'm glad you was last.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Pretty good. It's pretty good. Oh, yeah, I've been doing that for ages. Grease. Yeah, no degrees. It really is the wind chill, though, not to get all nerdy on you, but the wind chill is because it does that. It didn't look that cool because it wasn't that windy. I don't know. I think there are things that's going to be windier.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I think it was they said it was windier either earlier in the day or the day before, like when they were practicing. I think it was the day before when they were practicing because we're talking about Brady throwing it in the wind and not being affected. But that would have made it much, much worse. Yeah, because the wind takes the cold and puts it places you can't protect. You know, like it gets up underneath your jacket and up in up in your up in your bits and it also like gives you like this.
Starting point is 00:08:30 When like the wind stops, you get that like, oh, this is what it could be, which is slightly more bearable. And then it kicks up again and you're like, motherfucker. I'm just getting used to that. Yeah, it's so true. Or you just like step around a building or something and it cuts off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seven.
Starting point is 00:08:53 But I did like you get the shots because it's so cold. The shots of literally everybody standing around those massive, like jet engine heaters. Like trying to be the guy closest to it. Things are great, although not a lot of. Sweating like steam off the head shots as I would have wanted. Yeah, but the breath was actually incredible in this game, like their breath. Oh, yeah, one of the things where they're like the two lines are lined up. Yeah, you could see it from like, yeah, like from the regular
Starting point is 00:09:20 camera view, like the studio camera view. Yeah, you just need Steve Sable in the background. Yes, if any of something like some orchestra music. Yeah, yeah, so true. Battle of the trenches. But yeah, I think the other thing that was noticeable because of the weather was the kicking in this game. It looked like they were kicking lead balloons out there.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yes, like every kickoff, I think landed probably around the 20. Like it came out looking good and then just died like that ball just just died. And also the field goal attempts, I think on the day the both field goal kickers were one for two, one for three, three block, though. Right, one blocked. So not a great day for Gary Anderson, right? Yeah, yeah, single bar. Yeah. And so Gary Anderson who kicked the game
Starting point is 00:10:22 winning field goal the week before to get to get the Titans here. I was going to ask, yeah, do we want to talk about how Tennessee got here? Because they had a like this wasn't their first playoff game. Did you have they won their wild card? I have I have a bunch of notes on the other games from this week. OK, yeah, I think it's not the wild card games. Well, those other games are fucking insanity, but they are. Well, it's such on the Titans.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah, yeah, to get here. Yeah, they beat the Ravens last week in Baltimore. I think they were actually at a better record than the Ravens going in. But the Colts had won the division. So they had to travel. Yeah, they had to travel to Baltimore. Co MVP. And that was the Ray Lewis, Jamal Lewis, that squad. So they were built on defense and running.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Can you name a quarterback for the Ravens in that game? Dude, I read it like a couple of weeks ago. It's no worse. Someone like Jackson or Anthony Wright. Anthony Wright, I couldn't even tell you what number it was. I can't picture him at all. You look like you had a good game. Twenty for thirty seven to fourteen to touch and two interceptions. Not great. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:11:42 But it looked like an AFC North like battle. Oh, yeah. Titans won 20 to 17. This looks like a bit of a slug fest on an Anderson field goal. And I think that the Ravens had like a defensive touchdown from every. You know, OK. It was one of those games. Actually, Will Dempsey, one important play that happened was every did get a pick in that game and Eddie George separated his shoulder
Starting point is 00:12:13 trying to tackle it. Is that how it happens? They talked about a separated shoulder and Eddie. Yeah, he's playing in this cold with a. They said his shoulder was in a sling and he was playing because he separated last week in the tackling. He had read. Well, like and running with. They didn't let him to mention that.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I believe the comment is that running with violence is how they talked about Eddie George running, which he had like a ridiculous stiff arm on Ray Lewis, too. One of those ones where he kind of catches him off balance and like picked him up and throw him. It was bad ass. Those are the best. Yeah. That's like, what's the name for the Titans now? Does that all the time there?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Henry, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Grown ass, man. But yeah, Eddie George, just to touch on him, they showed a couple of stats, which I thought were kind of indicative of who he was as a running back. He was one of two players in the NFL to rush for 10,000 yards without missing a start. The only other guy was Jim Brown. So that's pretty good company. He ranked first in like since running backs, among running backs since 1996.
Starting point is 00:13:26 He was first in starts, first in rushes, second in yards, third in touchdowns. So he had 2700 rushes for just over 10,000 yards, which I think works out to be less than four yards a carry. So he is just an absolute grinder. Yeah. 10,000 yards on 3.6 yards per carry. And in this game in the first half, he was averaging 2.3. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Like he was, he just grinds that shit out over and over again. Yeah. Like it's kind of who he was. And then you lose two yards. He's just getting three yards every time. Yeah. And that's what they were saying. Like, I think Phil Sims in this game was talking about how like he's the perfect playoff running back because that's what he'll do is he'll get you three yards every time.
Starting point is 00:14:14 He's not going to get you more. He's not going to break anything big, but he's never going to put you behind the chains. And like, you don't have to go catching up because he's lost a bunch of yards. So, and I think in that game against the Ravens, looks like as a team, Tennessee ran for 165 yards on the ground. So they just ran it down. Oh, yeah. Eddie George and the other guy, Chris Brown.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Chris Brown, shout out to his favorite player. Yeah. Shout out mom and also the abusive singer. Oh, Chris Brown battered, battered his way into the end zone in the previous game for it. Ben, you know, those guys had a hundred yards in the last game. They still ran for like almost 200. So a typical, and you got Aaron McNair, who's also a pounder. Country strong.
Starting point is 00:15:10 He is. He ain't easy to tackle us for sure. They kept showing highlights for that double overtime Rams game, though, during this. Oh, I got notes on that, dude. It's fucking insanity. Yeah. Yeah. So do you want to talk about it now?
Starting point is 00:15:27 No, let's hold off on that until we can touch on this game first. Okay. Let's get through this and then we'll talk about the rest of the league. Because yeah, I mean, I'm excited. It's it's a little out of control. Um, yeah. So first half was kind of where a Lombardi score. Oh, well, Greg has his new rating system, but I think it sounds like you actually watched.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah, we determined it was the same thing because there are six different tiers. There were going to give a name. Well, where are they, Greg? It was a name game was the top. Yeah. Title game, thumbnail game, right. Uh, hidden gems, business as usual and slog fest. And then lost.
Starting point is 00:16:10 And then we're like, we should put a sixth in there. Which is losses. So where would you put this one, Greg? I don't know. I think this business as usual. I don't know if like anything really jumped out at me. I don't know. I don't think it was a hidden gem.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It's certainly not a thumbnail game. I mean, the cold adds a cool factor and it was a tight game, but I would put this as kind of like in the hidden gem range. I'll put this as a three. It was an exciting game. Yeah. Because it was close all the way through. You're playing the co-MVP.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah, it was exciting. And yeah. And I think the Titans came to play and they were both just like, this was also a bit of a slug fest. They were both giving each other right and left hooks all the way through. Eye shots. It was one of those fucking just eye shot games this week. And now I was on the Titans.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I always had a soft spot for them. You did. You fucking traitor. And I could draw that logo. So easy. It's nice. Got flames. It's like that.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah. And I remember dad calling Eddie George the man with two first names that I thought was hilarious. Yeah. And speaking of which, Derek Henry. What the fuck? It's Jeff George. Wow. I don't even put that together.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yeah. Do we know they're not the same person? Say it again. Do we know they're not the same person? Derek Henry and Eddie George? We don't. You know what? I thought this as I saw this game and they showed some close ups of Rodney Harrison as well.
Starting point is 00:17:36 And I said, both those guys, they look the same now. As they did when they were like in 2003. Rodney Harrison looks the exact same now as he did. Has not aged at all. And Eddie George, same way. Didn't we talk about Eddie George being good looking? Yes. We did.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Yeah. Yeah. I'm a big, I'm a big Eddie George is a good looking guy. Yeah. I mean, I was with him and Andy was not and Kelly. I wasn't at first because Andy's racist. I wasn't at first because his little like headshot went like an alien. It made him look like an alien.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Why? Because he doesn't fit into your like your normal cisgender white male face. The top of his head was twice the size of the bottom of his head. It was not a good angle for his picture. Get real. He's a beautiful man. Then you had me Google him and yeah, it looks great in a suit. So is Harrison.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I think Harrison is pleasing to look at. He's very handsome. Yeah. Now he like dresses nice too. Yeah. He's one of Aaron's favorites actually. He's one of my favorites. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I think both of them are better than Garoppolo. Garoppolo doesn't do it for me. I agree. He seems to like, I don't know, his fate. Clifed. Yeah. Or like, it almost feels like what a good person, a good looking person should look like rather than like, okay,
Starting point is 00:19:02 that guy actually has like a charisma in his face. It's like, it's like a stock photo of what a good looking person, you know. He's going to be a good looking person. Exactly. That sounds racist, Greg. Is it just because he's Italian? That one? I almost just said, is he Italian?
Starting point is 00:19:22 No, I was like, that's a stupid. Is Jimmy Garoppolo Italian? He already did that with the Holmes. Oh, Raffia. All right, that's what I'll admit. I have no idea. Very naughty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:43 So I think, so we lay on a three for this, like a three long body. Yeah. I give it a four. I'm giving it a business as usual. I'm giving it a hidden gem. All right. Okay. Yeah, that's not bad.
Starting point is 00:20:00 All right. And there wasn't a whole lot of scoring to talk about, which I think is probably why it's not a more memorable game. Because the one play that I actually remember from this is Tom Brady's touchdown pass to breakout star Beth El Johnson. Our guy, Beth El Johnson, the playmaker. Fuckin' killin' it. The speed made that happen.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So we got deep behind between the the safeties, and Brady hit him for a 40 when he had a touchdown on the page's first drive of the game. Yeah. The game. And it was short. I remember I missed this play. You did?
Starting point is 00:20:39 Uh-huh. I remember turning on the game and it was already seven nothing. And I was like, what the shit, dude? And then there was like no scoring after that. And I was like, god damn it. That's the first time. So there's going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:52 But this was also right off the back of my MVPs. Probably play the game. Kevin Falk on third down converting a tough third down, which you would do a couple. WD33. WD33. That's right. We need to make t-shirts of that.
Starting point is 00:21:07 The grease monkey. Grease monkey. Oh boy. Auto shop, Greg. The human lubricant. Yeah. I'm telling you, Andy, that was genius that you thought that out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I think it's a great idea here. All right. So we'll make some t-shirts. We'll put them in the pod shop. Those t-shirts you got. That sounds like another thing we say we're going to do that we don't do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Well, this is now the third time I think I've said it. So I'm actually going to do this time. I wrote it down this time. Greg. Yeah. We say we're going to do Andy does it all anyway. So let's be real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:44 This is true. This is like the only thing this podcast on the website literally the only things I fall through with in my entire life. That is very true too. That's why when we started this thing, I was like, OK, I'll agree to do it because it's not going to last. Six episodes. Toss.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Yeah. I was like, Andy will give up soon enough. You can probably blame COVID for that because what are you going to do? That's true. So yeah. So back to the game scoring. We got the Bethel Johnson touchdown and then Tennessee I thought kind of drove the ball up and down the field,
Starting point is 00:22:19 but just couldn't score at the end. I was surprised at how well they moved the ball. Yeah. But I probably shouldn't have been because like at the beginning of the game, the commentators were talking about Jeff Fisher about his offensive game plan and his responses. We've nailed it. We've got it.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah. We've got this. We're going to put up a shit ton of points and they scored 14 just for the record. Oh, we have this was the fifth ranked offense in the NFL. Yeah. And so there's nothing but it was it was all Steve McNair. I mean, we've actually talked about these these Titans at the beginning of the season, which I'd forgotten that this is the second time they've seen each other.
Starting point is 00:23:02 But even back then they were talking about like this entire offense just runs through Steve McNair. And he's actually had to grow as a passer because usually he would kind of if you got into trouble, he'd tuck it and run and he'd like run for three yards. But now he decides to chuck it up into coverage. And sometimes the guy comes down with it for 25 yards instead of the three yards that he normally gets. But having said that, Steve McNair did lead the league in quarterback rating with 100.4, which is pretty good for 2003 anyway. Can we talk about him being co-MVT with Peyton?
Starting point is 00:23:40 Because this is like the only time this has ever happened, right? I was going to ask that. Yeah, it is whatever that I can think of. I don't know about him. I don't pay attention to other sports because fuck them. No, that's not true. I won co-MVP of my high school soccer team. That's right.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And I haven't let you forget it. Yeah. And he was MVP. So he thinks he's some fucking big week. I never had to share. That's all I'm saying. Steven, is this the only one Steven McNair won too? Because Peyton was another one.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Great question. I'm looking up now. So I don't think this is... So I'm on Wikipedia now. The AP NFL Most Valuable Player Award. I'm assuming is what we're looking for here. So this is 2003 Peyton Manning Steve McNair. It has not been shared since.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I don't think it's ever been shared. In any other sport I can think of. So they just... It must be a voting system and they tied. Is that right? Yeah. So I love how confident Steve is when I'm literally on this page and I said it hasn't happened since then.
Starting point is 00:24:51 And I word it that way because it has happened before in the NFL. What? In 1997. 1997? 1997. Let's guess. Let's guess. Let's guess.
Starting point is 00:25:00 All right. Here you go. NFL MVP or is this like... NFL MVP. Pro NFL MVP. 97. What's going on? No.
Starting point is 00:25:10 You should be able to get one of these. Steve Young and Brett Favre. Brett Favre was one of them. Correct. Okay. L.A.? No. That's a good guess.
Starting point is 00:25:20 That's not a quarterback. Oh. What position? Just now. Running back. I mean, what other position are you going to get? I don't think there's ever... Let's see.
Starting point is 00:25:29 The last one? 97. Running back. Sean Alexander? Terrell Davis. TD. No. Not TD.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Shorter. Shorter is in height. Yep. Shorter. There you go. Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders. Split it with Brett Favre.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I'm assuming Barry Sanders is 97. That may have been the... That's a good trivia. That's not bad, right? Yeah. Yeah. The last time somebody other than a quarterback or running back won the NFL MVP was 1986. It was a defensive player.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Any guesses? I wasn't even born yet, dude. I don't know. One of those 86 Bears, guys. LT. Nicely done. And then two years before that... All right.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Three years before 1982, Mark Mosley, a place kicker. What MVP? Yeah. 1982. Shocking. Ben and Terry have been like, what the fuck, man? All right. The only place kicker that ever won it.
Starting point is 00:26:37 That's fucking ridiculous. Okay. Sure. I remember when Mantaite Teo had a fake girlfriend. Yeah. I don't know why I just came up now. I was just thinking of like, Highsman winners that are like candidates that were non-offensive. And I was like, oh, Mantaite Teo.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I remember that. Poor guy. He's going to be remembered forever for having a fake girlfriend. Yeah. He played a little bit in the NFL. He played with the dolphins. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:06 But what do you remember of him? Fake girlfriend. Exactly that. Yeah. Getting catfished. Yeah. Right? He got catfished.
Starting point is 00:27:15 He got got. He was like, he was like, he was the cutting edge of the catfishing wave. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Everyone else was like, what the fuck? You can do this. Yeah. And then MTV had just come out with that show catfish.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yeah. We're all like, whoa, this is like an... Wait, this is real? Epidemic of catfishing. You don't have to say who you are on the internet? Yeah. God, and people fall for that? It's a sex location.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Remember that? ASL, baby. ASL. I remember back in the AOL chat room days, me and Mike Mello used to... We used to buy a case of surge and we used to get on the chat rooms. The lesbian chat rooms are pretend to be lesbians. You guys are such bad boys. Super bad boys.
Starting point is 00:28:01 ASL, baby. Dude. You guys are crazy, crazy. A whole case of surging? No. Surging, dude. Lesbians, they're so much different than us. It's going to be sick.
Starting point is 00:28:15 To be fair, this was middle school, but yes, it was crazy. Nobody knows who you are on the internet. I guarantee there was no lesbians in that room. Yeah. There's a bunch of other surged up, like 13 euros talking to each other. I just got told off by Kelly. I was making fun of Andy, not lesbian people. I said lesbian people are normal.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Andy was the weird one. Yes. Oh, 100% weird. Go on. We can just isolate that one sound clip, Greg, and play it over and over again. Definitely me. Oh, boy. I don't know how to transition from that one.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I was trying, but I couldn't get there. What's the score at halftime? 14-7 Patriots. 14-7 Patriots. And an end 17-4. Bethel Johnson has a big touchdown. They come right back, they tighten Storm back and get a touchdown of their own. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Yeah. Yeah. Which he did lose a lot. Adam, did we score the second field goal on the next drive? And this is his 10th missed field goal of this season. Which? That's a lot. No gustos.
Starting point is 00:29:25 That's a lot. You don't see Gus Kowski missing 10 field goals in a season, do you? I think, I think last time you started missing that many, you got cut. Or you got shut, excuse me, shut down with an injury. Next play though, Rodney Harris' Interception. Yeah. Yeah, the Titans did the patented Patriots. As soon as you get a turnover, you take the deep shot.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And Rodney Harris was not falling for it. They did that in the second half with the attempted double pass two. Yep. And Willie sniffed it out immediately. And the tight end caught it. Why the tight end? Also, yeah, let's talk about that real quick. Because that was a, it was what looked like a throwback pass.
Starting point is 00:30:09 It was kind of like the Brady to Edelman to Amandola pass, but on the other side of the field, it was supposed to be. Except they threw it to Frank Wiecek for the first one. And he was like looking like he was taking steps back as if he was going to throw the ball. Was Frank Wiecek a like a quarterback in high school or something? Like you don't often have your tight ends be the guy. He threw the, he threw the moat.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Oh, the music city miracle. Remember? That's true. That was a good throw. No, we threw it absolutely perfectly. What do you mean badly? He threw it forward in a backwards lateral pass. That was bad.
Starting point is 00:30:49 That literally could not have been more perfect. Side line to side line a little bit to get it, but he didn't have to move. He just stood there and just like bent down and caught it. I mean, for a tight end, it was a good throw across his shoulder. That throw was like one of the best throws in NFL history. I always say. Oh, easy.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Wow. I thought special teams didn't matter. You were not wrecking the bucket last episode. Shit, not bell checks. They don't want special teams as bullshit. Don't call this an S thrown NFL history. Happened on special teams. Let's see when you're right, you're right.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I'll give you that one. I'm just saying considering the circumstances and who is throwing it. Wow. Brutal. The path like turned it over. This game was close enough. He just made a couple of mistakes and the titans would take a shot. And past defense would come up huge.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was kind of the game. That was kind of the game. Yeah, because the only other drive the Patriots often put together was right at the end of the first quarter with again, your boy Bethel Johnson coming on strong at the end of the season. He was like third and long, third and 13 or something like that. Caught a quick pass over the middle, got hemmed in and turned around
Starting point is 00:32:10 and started a reversing field running back the other way. Tom Brady threw an absolute monster block to spring him for the 13 yards. You should definitely put this as a highlight on the website. It's going to be on there. I cut the sweet block from Brady like a nice clean cut block. Yeah. It was like he's had a couple of those. There was one recently like his last season on the Patriots
Starting point is 00:32:34 when they're against the bills. Remember when you ran downfield and blocked whoever their top cornerback was? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Crabby is white. Yep.
Starting point is 00:32:43 And it was that similar like, you know, like just throw himself with the guy's knees sort of thing. Yeah. Like quarterbacks do. But in this one, he got him full on. I don't know who it was, but it was a big guy. And he went, you know, who else does that? Who else is that?
Starting point is 00:32:58 Brett Farr. He was having fun out there like that. He's just having fun. But you don't like Brett Farr because, you know, you don't like guys that just have fun out there and play football and are gunslingers. But now Tom Brady does it and you're like, Oh my God. Did you see that block?
Starting point is 00:33:14 It was so sick. Is this like a I don't know where we're headed with this. I'm saying be consistent. You either like the guys that do stupid shit because they're football players and they have fun out there or you don't like them. I think it's remarkable because
Starting point is 00:33:33 Brady doesn't really do a lot of that shit. Right. He only does it when it's absolutely necessary. In the fact that he doesn't do it very often. Yeah. Whereas I think now it's only one. Was it was it this game or was it maybe last week where they showed a highlight of Brett Farr running 20 yards
Starting point is 00:33:50 downfield to throw that block for no fucking reason. Yeah. That was so sick. What do you mean? No reason. It was awesome. It didn't do anything. I'm not debating.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It's awesome. He just wanted to show that he's a football player. Well, this is what I do in my backyard where I wear my wrangler. I run downfield and block my friends. Yeah. He just loves football and he was just so excited to complete that pass.
Starting point is 00:34:12 He was like, I just got to run. Hit and hit somebody. And you know what? His teammates probably love that shit and they got hyped up when it happened. They definitely did. Yeah. But I just think that Brett doesn't do that very often.
Starting point is 00:34:27 He would do all that show all the time. So it's notable and Brett does it. I wouldn't want Brady doing it all the time because he's going to get fucking beat up. Yeah. He's going to get addicted to painkillers. Like, yeah. I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 00:34:36 He's got those long fucking tendons. He's very pliable, I know. But that's true. Drinks a lot of water. He'll be fine. You're not drinking a lot of water in this game because the commentators... You can't get concussions when you've got headache.
Starting point is 00:34:51 You can't drink it when you're hydrated. That's right. Yeah. You drink a lot of water. You don't even get sunburns if you don't have water. That's right. But you couldn't drink any water in this game because the commentators are talking about
Starting point is 00:35:01 how their water froze in the booth. Okay. Here we go. Let's hear it, Andy. No, I don't know. It's on the commentators. I thought they were fine. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:35:08 It's on the commentators? I was hoping for some creepy arm and contain shit again. Yeah, none of that. So, yeah, nothing. It was just typical Phil Sims-like corny bullshit stuff. Like, this is what we talked about. Like, the stuff that bothers me is like those like lazy... Like, yeah, just like the corny shit.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Like, they're talking about... Oh, if they played football at the North Pole, this is probably what it would be like. Come on, man. Like, you can do better than that. You're professional. Like, take some... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And then they're talking about Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher is the epitome of us against them. Like, literally not. Like, the entire Patriots have built a dynasty on that, but you're Jeff Fisher of all fucking people? I know. Was that a thing he says in the locker room a lot? Well, hey, Greg, you want the whole context?
Starting point is 00:36:00 Because I know you didn't watch it, Greg. Didn't... Obviously, there's more context than Andy's saying here. They said we need to be bell-checking. He was just like, you know, I've got the guys ready to play. They're going to go out there and play. And then they need to be a fisher. And he's like, I'm a raw rock guy.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I find a lot of speeches. I'll find anything to, like, find disrespect and, like, use that to motivate and, like, get a raw, raw speech. Andy, comments? Corny bullshit. All of it. He really has corny bullshit. That's sort of the difference between the two coaches
Starting point is 00:36:27 and the way they motivate their teams. Is corny bullshit? Well, in that case, I was directing it at Jeff Fisher. But yes, Jeff Fisher's corny bullshit, too. Well, yeah, they were talking about how, like, at the end, the Titans were wasting their timeouts because they couldn't figure out how the play clock worked. So they're wasting their timeouts at the end there.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And there was one play where it wasn't a timeout. It was just like an injury stoppage. So they stopped the clock and came back. And both of you can go fuck yourself. Well, how dare they get this one, Rob? No, but they start talking about how, like, oh, well, you just wanted to be a timeout. So you can go stand behind the heater.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I turned it off because I'm a fucking tough guy. Fuck you. Stupid, like all these people. Like, you know what it is? It's like, this is your fucking job. Stop bitching about how cold it is. All right. You know what it is, Andy?
Starting point is 00:37:20 What is it? It's workplace humor. You know what I'm saying? Where you like say jokes that you don't want to take risks so you can't offend anyone. So you just think you just say the generic joke and you don't even know what people know about things. So you're just like, hey, I'm with the fucking weather, huh?
Starting point is 00:37:39 And you just make like the most generic joke you can make. Mondays, am I right? That shit sucks, dude. I have got it for them. They have to, like, appeal to a broad audience. So they have to tell jokes that are like that. I don't think they do. And I know that because I say jokes like that at work.
Starting point is 00:37:55 And when I say them, like, come out of my mouth, I'm like, I want to shoot myself for saying this. But it's like, it's just part of the gig. It's not, though, because I work too. And I don't say that. I say the yeah. And that's why no one likes you, Andy. And you never get promoted.
Starting point is 00:38:09 It's because you don't do the stupid jokes. Raw. Everybody loves you. I got kudos. And he's like, dude, my dick is so small in this weather. Sometimes you gotta say what you gotta say. That's the thing, right? Those are the jokes you would bitch your buddies.
Starting point is 00:38:33 From inside you. Yeah. No, I got any. It's so cold out. You know, you can't make that joke on air. No, but that's zero degrees one. That fucking kills at work. I have a plus in the commentators.
Starting point is 00:38:47 But that's corny humor, too. It's self-deplicating humor. Deep cut pro commentator. Very into the game. They're taking a knee. And he's like, what do you think dude? They hand it off and have a guy stand there and get tackled and then he fumbles it.
Starting point is 00:39:03 And he's like, oh, come on, man. And they were talking about the Miracle of the Meadowlands when the Eagles did that to the Giants. They handed it off and they didn't need to. He fumbles it, picks it up, scoops and scores, and they win. Who was it? It was what? Because Phil Sims is a big Giants guy.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Wasn't that Herman Edwards? It was Herman Edwards that. Was the Eagles guy that picked it up and returned for a touchdown? Yeah. Yeah. Yes, it was. Cornerback Herman Edwards. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:28 1917. Yeah. Speaking of fumbles, I think the guy who had the worst game for the Patriots in this was Daniel Graham. Oh, that's not even close. And he's, I understand. I remember now being like super frustrated with him because when he gets it right, like he's unstoppable.
Starting point is 00:39:47 He's an absolute monster. He's this huge dude. He's like, he's like the same size and like physicality as Gronk. And he seems like he has like the, the maneuverability and the same athleticism as him. But he just like can't put it together. He dropped a couple of, dropped a couple of balls. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:06 One that would have been like setting up a touchdown. And I think that, that one may have been when they missed the field goal, when Adam missed this field goal. Pretty sure. So that sucked. And then he also, they, they, they're like, okay, we're not going to catch the ball down the field. So they ran a screen to him.
Starting point is 00:40:23 He caught it, got one yard, got stood up, and then fumbled the ball there too, which the Titans recovered. And that was, that was halfway through the third. That was right before they tried that, that double pass that. Yeah. And this is, this is like a couple of plays later after Tennessee had scored the tying touchdown.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So it's, it's tie game 14 right now. Patriots like start moving the ball a little bit and then Graham fumbles, Titans recover. And luckily the Titans pulled it. Is he the opposite of Kevin Falk? Yeah. He's the anti-Kevin Falk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:58 There is something about players where you get like an immediate eye test of whether they are that guy or not. Like Nikhil Harry is not that guy. He's a Daniel Graham category. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. James White is a Kevin Falk category.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Kevin Falk, yeah. Edelman. Even what's the kid, the rookie from NC State? JJ Taylor. No, the wide receiver. Um, I want to say Bird, but it's the other one. Myers. Myers.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Myers. Yeah. Myers. He, he has the Kevin Falk like fall forward. The gene. Yeah. Get the, get the yards. Know where the stick is.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Get four yards when you need four. Yeah. That's like a distinct characteristic of a player of like a yes or no. Do they have that? I'm saying yes on JJ. He's had like four players in his career. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:48 How do you know that? How did you tell him? Yeah. You fucking fucking played third string Panthers players and did it? Fine. I'm going to say yes on Gunnar Olszewski then. Yeah. I would sign off on that.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Yes. Olszewski's got those shifty moves that you saw from Edelman. It's actually a great company. I think so. Unlike yours. You'll see. Or maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying we have no idea. The worst is like when you like a guy that doesn't have that gene and you're rooting for him. And like every time you're like, oh, he's getting a screen. He's going to get yards. And then he gets like stood up and you're like, come on. Just want to be proven right.
Starting point is 00:42:31 But yeah, he's like, damn it, man. Holding your guy. He's like, God, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Holding on fucking number 15. You're like, fuck yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Damn it. Sonya Michelle. Like just. Yeah. Yeah. Sonya Michelle. One broken tackle. Sonya Michelle.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I've been standing here since the beginning and you just come on. Prove me right. I still think he's got it. He looked good. He looked good this past. He can catch the ball. He'll be awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Speaking of catching the ball, though, we're going to jump kind of towards the end of the game because not much happened in third quarter. Somebody who went from having like a great game to a terrible game drew Bennett. From the hero to go. Yeah. Because he made the Titans have they're on their last drive. I think they're they're in their two minute drill. Um, and they're driving down the field.
Starting point is 00:43:28 They get to about an England 35 when it gets to the two minute warning. And, uh, down a field goal because Adam finally, that was probably the closest field. Well, I've seen him kick pretty close one. That one died halfway and just barely sailed over the left corner. Let's knock it in there. Yeah. Hooked it in. What have been it would have been a great soccer goal basically kind of hook it in that
Starting point is 00:43:50 top corner sort of thing. Um, but on this drive drew Bennett makes two outstanding catches on the sideline. Both I think get reviewed. Both get up held because he just keeps control, gets both men's tap both feet down. One of them was in double coverage. A ball that shouldn't have even thrown to him. Um, but because the Titans, I don't know, they just seem to. They didn't make a lot of warning.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Yeah. They didn't make a lot of mistakes, but they made them at the worst possible times. It was two minutes warning. They're on our 33. Yeah. And we're up three. Yeah. And they're, they're sitting pretty.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And then it goes intentional grounding, which I hate to call, but it was the right. It was. The Patriots just decided to bring big blitz every time. There's like, all right. Yeah. He actually had, he got like hurt and he was hobbled like the play before. Yeah. Because he ran for a bunch of yards.
Starting point is 00:44:49 McNair. Yeah. And then, uh, so they had the grounding and then a holding and then like a couple of non-plays. It's third and 23. And Bennett makes an amazing catch on the sideline, but it's still fourth and 12. So the Titans are still like, so they, they still, they basically started at 35. And now they're further back than that. And because they have, what's the name?
Starting point is 00:45:17 Gary Anderson kicking Mr. Facebook himself getting up there in age. So he's not going to be able to boot these long kicks in the cold because we've seen even Adam Vinitieri, uh, he, he missed from 44 and then hit from 46, but that 46 one barely snuck over. And this is about that range for an old guy. So like, fuck, we're going to go for a fourth and 12 going for it. And again, pages bring the blitz. McNair hucks it up like that's cause that's what he does now.
Starting point is 00:45:45 And, uh, he's drew Bennett right in the hands. Like it was one of those things where drew Bennett was like running past the defender and the ball hung up. So he stopped and everybody ran past him. And so we jumped up a catch it, hit him in both hands and sprung straight out. And then he got hit by three, maybe four pages defenders. So they didn't have a chance to catch the rebound. And that was basically the game.
Starting point is 00:46:10 But from going from having those two amazing catches to dropping what was essentially an easier version of those catches, like in the middle of the field, it was, it was a game. Yeah. Kind of uncontested really. And just like hit him in both hands and he dropped it. And it was a tough look. It's my nightmare. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Oh God. Yeah. Cause nobody remembers you. And like catching a football is probably like a, you know, think about it. Right. Nope. And let's do it. Muscle memory.
Starting point is 00:46:42 It's a muscle memory thing. So like that's going to be so hard to like mentally get over. Yeah. I know, I know, obviously I can make this catch. Why did I not make it there? Is it because I'm a beta and I can't handle pressure? Right. Is it because it was cold or am I making excuses because it was cold?
Starting point is 00:46:59 You know, like I've wondered what the mental gymnastics that he goes through having to like work through that. They showed us a shot of Steve McNair like giving him a like a pep talk on the sideline right after it. Just, oh really? That's good leadership. That is good leadership. That's great leadership.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah. Yeah. It's exactly when he said that happened. That's a tough way to go out though. Yeah. Cause he had it. And the play was there. Season's over.
Starting point is 00:47:23 It would have been like a nice goal from the 20 yard line with like a minute left. Yeah. Within field goal range now and you could take the lead. So yeah. So the pages take over with about a minute and a half left. And because the Titans had screwed up the clock so bad, I think they had to call they called a timeout early in the third, I think, because they kept like running up against the the play clock.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And so they had three total delay games. I think one was probably on purpose because of the punter. That's because the Pats were messing with the radius. Like they did it when Pittsburgh was here. Oh, probably. No, they were messing with the play clocks. Oh, I guess. Cheaters, cheaters.
Starting point is 00:48:09 That's what Tennessee fans would say. But yeah, they just couldn't get the playoff in time. So they had to burn a timeout there and then they burned another one on defense, I think, because the Patriots were driving when they held them to a field goal. And then so they only had the one timeout left. So they could only stop the clock once. So the Patriots ran it and then started taking knee. But in true, like it's Brady Belichick fashion.
Starting point is 00:48:38 The first time Brady goes to take a knee, he steps back as you can take a knee, but doesn't. So run a couple extra seconds off the clock. So the Titans do like the kind of like step forward and then realize the play is not over. And then they actually rush him and then he takes the knee. But they hit him anyway, because like, you know, I would do fuck you. Yeah. Yeah, kind of hit him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:57 If you're not going to go down, I'm going to make sure you make sure you do. So that starts a ruckus and they cut to him. And he was the only person that steam coming off his head in the whole game. It was around Harrison. Even Teddy Bruce keep where where they will bounce up and down the sidelines. And so a scrimmage breaks out, which worked in the page of advantage because that kept the clock going during the whole thing. And so it actually killed a decent amount of time.
Starting point is 00:49:24 But then so they took another knee. This time Brady actually takes it for real, like in one motion. And so there's now, I think they and they like let the clock run down to three seconds left, but it's fourth down. So what do you do? And I think this for me is another like just small example of Bill Belichick thinking of every single situation and probably had this dialed up. And what do you do?
Starting point is 00:49:53 Because like you said, you don't want. You don't want to hand it off. You don't. You don't. You can't take a knee because it's fourth down. Yeah. So it's a meeting and stuff. So what do you do seconds left?
Starting point is 00:50:03 Yeah, you can't. You can't fumble it because you can't give the ball back. So what's the safest play? And so the pay to come up Brady snaps the ball, runs backwards and just throws it as far as he can. And they sent, I think it was David Givens down the sideline and Brady overthrows him by about 20 yards. I think it probably should have been. It wasn't quite that. He was a little closer than he probably wanted to be, but just so it wouldn't be grounding.
Starting point is 00:50:28 So you wouldn't have the penalty. And that runs out the last three seconds of the game. And I can see by Greg's face. He doesn't agree with me. So first of all, fuck you. Second of all, why? First of all, it's fucking common sense. Any coach in the NFL would have done that.
Starting point is 00:50:42 What do you think people are going to punt there? You think you could do one of 10 things you could do. Okay. I snap it and fucking walk backwards for three seconds. You could do a punt where they don't actually punt it. They just snap it and he stands there for three seconds. Teams do that shit all the time, dude. But the play has to end.
Starting point is 00:51:00 So what happens if your punter fumbles it? Like that's the way they took talent to take a knee. Yeah. What if you get an intentional grounding? You've seen it before. You've seen a fair amount of football games end on just the air ball out of bounds for the guy to run down the sideline. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Did he get out of the pocket? Did he get Brady out of the pocket? Yeah. That's why they sent the guy down the sideline. Oh, he didn't. Oh, because I've seen coaches direct the quarterback to immediately sprint out of the pocket and then throw it away. So they make sure they don't get intentional grounding.
Starting point is 00:51:33 It's funny. Belichick didn't think of that. He didn't need to. Tom Brady ran for two first downs this game. Yeah. He had Tom Brady. You're going to leave it in the hands of the ref, Sandy? Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:51:42 No, you're leaving the hands of your franchise board. That's why they sent the wide receiver down there. And you throw it in that general direction. Problem solved. Wait, if it's intentional grounding. The receiver has to be in the area. No receiver in the area. I know, but it's a loss of down play.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Does the other team get to play then, yeah? I don't know. Can't have a defensive penalty, but that's an offensive penalty on a change of downs. I think you're right, because didn't the Ravens do something like that a few years ago where they did something like that. It was supposed to be like a punt. And they did like a delay, a game or something on like on the punt.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And that ran the clock because they're on offense. And so it ran the last five seconds off. And that was the end of the game. And so I think they've actually since closed that loophole. Sounds like a loophole, right? So Belichick doesn't figure it out. Fucking what's his name? Well, so the Pats win on a on a Belichick genius play.
Starting point is 00:52:46 17-14? 17-14, no. 17-14. And we're on to the AFC conference game. 13 wins in a row? 13 wins in a row. Are we 13? 13 wins in a row.
Starting point is 00:53:01 That's a lot. Yeah, it's a wagon. Yeah, and they're a wagon. And they've only got one blowout in that, which was each 17. You just held a fifth ranked offense to 14 points. And not a lot of yards either. Yeah, let's see. They had 284 total yards, which is not bad.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Paige had two. Not very many. No. McNair played well, I think, still. Well, this is a good jumping point to the other games. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. To put it into context of what, what, yeah. Yeah, because they, they, they kept as good as the Patriots are. Yeah, talk to me.
Starting point is 00:53:47 The Colts. No, I was talking to the Colts. Did all of these three other divisional games going on? They're all ridiculous. All of them. So the Colts, the Colts. So as good as the Pats have been defensively, the Colts have been like even more impressive offensively in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:54:06 They are an absolute offensive wagon. Yeah, they, they haven't punted in two games. It's like General Sherman running through the Patriots. I remember that clearly. Just, just raising things. Yeah, remember their first punt. Yeah. So they beat the Broncos, beat the breaks off from 41 to 10, 479 total yards, no puns.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Didn't Manning have a perfect pass rating? Perfect pass rating, five touchdowns, no picks. This, this week against the Chiefs, they go into Arrowhead and beat the Chiefs 38-31, 434 total yards, no puns. Aaron Burner. Yeah. Yeah, that game must have been very entertaining. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I watched the highlights and they called for just fucking unstoppable. Like they, they just kept, every time the Chiefs was going to touchdown, they get like, they got a Dante Hall kickoff for a touchdown, like, okay, we're back in this and then Manning would just be like, eight plays, 75 yards touchdown. Every single fucking time. Well, this is unstoppable. Didn't we talk about, this is the season that the Colts came back against, was it Tampa or Chicago or someone, and they scored like 30 points in the fourth quarter, something stupid
Starting point is 00:55:23 like that. Dude, they came out, they came back against the Pats, almost beat the Pats. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, Peyton Manning in these two games has thrown eight touchdowns, no picks, 680 yards, and only 12 incompletions. So he has almost as many touchdowns as the incompletions.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Yeah. And his team scored 79 points. Wow. Yeah. So he's coming into New England and he's a co-MVP with, with the guy you just beat. Right. So there, you know, this is literally like the, what is it, the irresistible force versus the removal object is what's about to happen next week in New England.
Starting point is 00:56:05 So that's one of the AFC, the, the playoff games. To go to the NFC, the Eagles beat the Packers, 20 to 17 and overtime. This is the fourth and 26. Oh my God. Freddie Mitchell. Yes. So it's the fourth and 26. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Dude, I did not know that. Fred X, Fred X. Yes. God damn. Okay. That's basically like his only calling card is like that's his highlight. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:35 He, he made a name out of that one player. Oh yeah. He milked that one good. Yeah. So it was, there were down three, the Eagles were down three at home. It's a minute, 12 left. And it was fourth and 26 and they convert it to Freddie Mitchell. They tie it, go to overtime and then you guys will love this,
Starting point is 00:56:55 but Brett Farr throws an absolutely horrendous overtime intersection. Like he like, he like punts it to Brian Dawkins who returns it to like the Packers 40 yard line. They kick a field goal game over. Packers season done. I remember that because remember like NFL 2K came out around this time. Remember those games for the Dreamcast? Yeah. And they used to do like the situations.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And this was the one that they put in the game. And it was like the hardest one to do because it was fourth and 26. And you're playing with the fucking Eagles. And it's such a hard time completing that task. Not an easy one to do. Yeah. So this is the Eagles third straight trip to the NFC title game. Yep.
Starting point is 00:57:41 They would make for Donovan McNabb. Yep. Yeah. And then meeting them there will be the Carolina Panthers who beat the Rams. Oh my God. This was one that they kept showing the highlights of because this game had already happened. Yeah. This game was, I watched like the condensed game.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Yeah. It was, it was absolute insanity. Yeah. So this, this is the tail end of the Rams greatest show on turf. So it's actually not Kurt Warner anymore. This is Mark Folger. Mark Folger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:15 But they still, yeah. They still got Mike Martz. They got Bruce Torrey Holt led the, led the NFL in receiving yards. They still have Marshall Fox. So this is still very much the greatest show on turf. Yeah. They're huge favorites at home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Against Jake DeLome, Mushin Muhammad and Steve Smith. And who was there running back to who, because it was a rookie running back because the other guy got hurt because it was Steven Davis, but he got hurt. Steven Davis and then Deshaun Foster. That's, yeah. Guy from UCLA. Yeah. So the regular, like the, most of the game was pretty cagey.
Starting point is 00:58:56 There was like a shit ton of field goals, a lot of missed opportunities. But basically it gets to two and a half minutes left in the fourth quarter. The Rams have kicked five field goals. So they're down 11 with 239 left. Oh my God. They stormed down. They score a touchdown kick, get the extra two point conversion. Two point conversion, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Kicking on sides kick. Jeff Wilkins recovers his own on sides kick. Hell yeah, Jeff Wilkins. After kicking five field goals already in this game. Yeah, yeah. Kicks foul field goals. Recovers his own on sides kick. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:38 She had to kick four up to that point. Not to the spoiler, but. Okay. So then they, they marched down with like, they have like, it's a two minute warning. They're on like the 30 yard line and Mike Marks for some reason plays for overtime. They have like the number one offense in the NFL. And he's like, no, they like run it three times. Just goes to touchdown.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Kick a field goal. They like burn a minute and a half off the clock on purpose. Jeez. Didn't make any sense. So they, uh, kick the field goal tie the game go to overtime and both teams have like get it into the opponents territory twice. Jeff Wilkins after going five for five in regulation misses a 54 yard field goal. I mean, that's a long one, but still.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Yeah. Yeah. Come on, man. Uh, the, the, the Panthers marched down to like that 33 yard line kick a field goal. It's good. They had to delay a game, back it up five yards, kick the second one, miss it. John Casey, who I think we'll see later. John Casey, who had, he went three for three up.
Starting point is 01:00:53 He missed one when they were up 11 to hit the upright when they were up 11 that would have made a 14. So, so then the Rams get the ball back and they're driving. They're like in Panthers territory late first overtime. They throw a pat. Uh, it gets picked off by Manning who like tears it away from Tory Holt. So they pick it off at their own 39. So they were like almost in field goal territory.
Starting point is 01:01:25 And then the very first play of second overtime. Like a deep slant tip, um, or post-ret to Steve Smith and he just house call. Jason Seahorn just gets towards the last remaining white defensive back ends his career on that play chasing Steve Smith 69 yards down the field. Yeah. And the Panthers walk off. They end a 13 game home winning streak for the Rams. Rams are done.
Starting point is 01:01:58 This like no one team would jake the loam starting a quarterback makes the NFC conference game. End of the dynasty, you would say for the Rams. That's the end of the greatest show in turf. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they're ever the same. Just an absolute crazy game. Like it could have been one on like six different plays that didn't go there.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Yeah. And it just First overtime, no one scored. Like they played a whole overtime with no scores. Yeah. Yeah. In the entire corner. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:29 And then literally the first play of second overtime. Yeah. And it wasn't even like a KG like defensive like, yeah, no one scored because like the defense were playing the defense were playing terrible. They just like got lucky on these like miss field goals or like interceptions. Like it was just insanity. Absolutely brutal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:52 And I I'll see if I could find a screenshot of Mike Marks' face when when they missed that field goal after the penalty where he just did this. Like he did like a little kid in a thing where he like puts his hands over his mouth. I was like, oh my God. It was it was just like it's just like a child like reaction of like, I'm so excited. He was getting a ton of criticism after the game, especially because he didn't try and go for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:29 He played to the regulation. Yeah. Yeah. With the best offense in the NFL. Yeah. Yeah. And not lose. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Yeah. Typical Mike Marks. More like Mike Farts. Oh, yeah. Mike Farts and his fans. We all do bests and worsts. Bests and worsts. Yes, Steve.
Starting point is 01:03:46 What do you got? Um, I was just going to start with the best of the best. Troy Brown fourth and three conversion. Yeah. Troy Brown for three. Yeah. Oh, four three on fourth down. Got it.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Troy Brown clutch and he didn't. He didn't really have like any other. I think it was the second, but yeah, he had like one other that was like a screenplay that didn't go anywhere. But I mean, that that was kind of this offense too. Like they showed the the stat of like the past distribution. And there's a one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight guys on this list. Fourier leads it with three catches.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Johnson, Bethel Johnson has two catches. Everybody else has one feature. Ward is in there again. The nice feature award. Yeah. Come fall. Givens Brown, Larry Senors, Deon Branch, one catch. I had another sneaky best.
Starting point is 01:04:46 All right. Tank Williams has his whole name on his jersey. That's pretty good. I mean, it's actually. If my name was tank anything, you damn well better be sure that name. They had two T Williams on the team. And they're like, well, we have two T Williams. We'll just put like a tank's name is only four letters long anyways.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Stat check. That's my guess. Tennessee Titans. I think he is the only one I'm looking at the roster right now. And this is one on offense. Let's see. Albert Haynes or a shout out. Shout out Albert Haynes or when you're still trying.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Yeah. Who knew? It's a second year. I see no other. The worst was the pick six for Teddy Buzki. That was a false start. That was rough. It was a quick throw on a hot throw from McNabbas.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Catch it and throw it. Yeah. Buzki had it, but you couldn't even hear the false start. It was so loud. Buzki had it. And with nobody near, I'm just like yards of green in front of him. It would have been a big success. And I think that ended up with.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah, that was the tying touchdown too. The Titans would go on the score here. Yeah, on that. He's a huge swing. 14 point swing. Yeah, tough. Greg, best and worst. What do you got?
Starting point is 01:06:12 Okay. The worst. I'm going to say the over under negatives. Always looking for the negatives first. Such a pessimist. The over under on this game was a 34. Like imagine that in the modern NFL. They not know what this is going to be.
Starting point is 01:06:35 And hit the under. Yeah. No shit. Imagine hitting the under 34 over under. It was negative 10. Yeah. So that's the worst. Both these teams are like past first teams,
Starting point is 01:06:49 which is like kind of the new thing in the NFL at this point. Like the pages came out in five wide pretty much the whole game. That was just so good back then though. Yeah, that's true. I mean, Brady threw it 41 times. So he was in particular. Yeah, that's crazy. That's a lot of times though.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Yeah, because they had no wrong game, dude. It's true. I mean, Antoine had a couple good carries, but that's it. Antoine ran well, I thought. The Patriots had 27 carries for 96. Antoine did. He did run well.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Yeah, he was doing pretty good. Then he got hurt on that play. He did. One more carry and that was it. 16 carries, 69 yards, touchdown, longest of 17. Not bad. All right. So for my best, I'm doing a preemptive best for next week,
Starting point is 01:07:33 because just giving one best to Tyler for next week is not nearly enough. He needs at least two bets. Maybe even bring in a preemptive Tyler best for ASC conference game. I can't fucking wait to rewatch this game because I fucking love Tyler. It's true. This is definitely his best game. The legendary game.
Starting point is 01:08:02 One of the all-time games of any corner. All right. My best, see, in this house, we do best first, is Tom Brady still has not thrown an interception at home. I think through another touchdown. Something is eight touchdowns, zero interceptions at home, which is crazy considering he's thrown 12 interceptions on the season. Good for him.
Starting point is 01:08:29 So every single exception has come on the road. I'll tell you, he's unflappable at home. Yeah, unflappable. So luckily they're playing at home next week. Unflappable. Unflappable. Well, I don't think he's unflappable. Well, I'm unflappable.
Starting point is 01:08:44 He's a good looking man. Do you care to explain that to mom? Who's listening? No, we'll just say sometimes a naughty boy. What is it? Very naughty. I apologize, mom. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Trust me, mom. You don't want to know. Do not Google that. My words. Oh, look. I have a big mom story. I remember going up to mom and being like, hey, mom, what's a wanker?
Starting point is 01:09:19 She's like, someone who masturbates a lot. And I never say that again. Oh, I get something similar, but it was what's the word? Yeah. The one who fucks animals. What's that word that the English use all the time? Bugger. Bugger, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I asked dad what bugger is. Like, why do you call everybody bugger? What does that mean? Like, well, technically it means somebody who has sex with animals. So don't say it. Yeah, that was it. Oh, I'm going to say that. Oh, OK.
Starting point is 01:10:06 That takes on a different meaning than the way you use it. My worst in this game was I think the way that the commentating team built up Craig Hendrick, the Titans punters knuckleball punt that he does. Only sometimes, but it's impossible to catch. And so they were waiting for him to do it. Waiting for him to do it. And then he finally did it.
Starting point is 01:10:33 And it was a net punt of 14 yards. So a whole 14 yards, it knuckled because when he kicked it, yeah, he just kicked it and it didn't it didn't rotate. So it was just like hung in the air. And the Patriots are like, they didn't return it, but it hit and it bounced 15 yards backwards towards them. So it was a net pun of 14 yards. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Knuckleball. So I thought it was a good pun. But the pun itself was great. But just to see a punt like a knuckleball just dropping. Like it was spinning. Yeah. But the whole the whole build up of it like, oh, he's going to do a knuckle and then he does it.
Starting point is 01:11:05 And it's like it's it's it's a good. It's a bounce funky. You know, it's got a bad bounce. It's it's I mean, ask Tim Wakefield. That's what happens. It's all about the weather when it's knuckleball. I have another worst, Andy. Oh, good.
Starting point is 01:11:16 When you told Greg in this house, we do best first. Yeah. Damn right. You're the most negative person in the world. You hate everything and everybody except for the Patriots. Yeah. So when it comes to Patriots, we do best first. In this house, we're positive.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Get fucked. Get fucked. Well, on that note, what's next week, Greg? Next week, the immovable object versus the unresistible force. Unstoppable force. Yeah, nailed it. The Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Edgerton James, Reggie Wayne. Colts.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Freight comes into England. This game must have been so fucking hyped. Oh, yeah. It was just like this is just such a fucking cool matchup because they're like completely different teams. Yeah. And both like the best units in the NFL at their best offense versus the best defense.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Yeah. The game that they play in the regular season was an absolute classic. It came down to the fourth and goal. And now we get to do it again into England. There's snow in the forecast. Let's go. Dude, I'm hyped.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Who was favored in this game, do you think? Colts. Pop quiz. Pats by three. Pats by three and a half. Oh. I'm surprising. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:46 So. Toss up, but give Pats three for home field advantage. Three and a half because it's snowing. 50 percent chance of snow. 100 percent chance of a good football game. So if you have any comments, if you're our mother and you want to talk about things that are very naughty, you can text the dynasty hotline.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Steve Brown, what's the number? Five oh five. No. Six oh three. Six oh three. Five oh five. Troy Brown. Four three.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Eight oh four three. Eight zero four three. Four three. Because if anybody's going to convert four from three, who's it going to be? It's got to be Troy Brown. Got to be Troy Brown. Six oh three.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Five oh five. Eight oh four three. Tell us your best Patriot story. Tell us your best mom Brown story. Tell us your best Piggly Wiggly story. Tell us your best wanker story. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Good. Then your favorite all-time masturbation. Where was it? What did you watch? Sometimes a naughty boy. And on that note, we will, until next week, we will see you later.

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