Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2003 Week 12: Patriots at Texans

Episode Date: February 2, 2021

The Patriots head to Houston Texas and the site of the 2003 Super Bowl to face the expansion Texans for the first time in their history. But what's that sound? Is that the sound of a trap (game) snapping shut? Join Andy and Steve as Andy remembers this game for the hangover he watched it with, and Steve continues to remember absolutely nothing about the 2003 season.Notes:Here's the game link in case you'd like to watch the game or the highlights.The injury situation was bad, but it gave us some good trivia answer WRs in this game.Local Texas boy Josh Beckett made an appearance after winning his (first) World Series. The Texans hadn't played well after a win. And it would take them a while to even string two Ws together.Don't forget to text us your thoughts on the Dynasty Hotline! [phone]Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to Patron's Dynasty podcast. I'm your host Annie Brown with me today's middle brother who gets no respect. Steve Brown, Steve, are you feeling respected today? Yeah, you know, have I respected you enough? You have. I mean, you carved out 15 minutes of your time tonight to come

and talk to me. So that just shows how much you respect me. I do respect you. I'm glad you're feeling respected today. There wasn't much respect in the game. We're going to cover this this evening, Thursday evening in January in New England, nice and cold. But we're traveling back in time to November 23rd, 2003 in the Patriots Arena, Houston, Texas at Reliance Stadium. Pretty brand new. And this would be where the Super Bowl is being held this year. So getting a bit of a sneak preview, spoiler alert.

But the commentators in the game could not stop gushing about this. And I think they said something about how this was the largest, like, non-playoff crowd to watch a football game. Yeah, non-Super Bowl crowd. That's what we were, yeah. And the attendance, apparently, according to pro football reference was 70,719. It's kind of a lot. Yeah. I mean, it's not like college football big. It will say it's like 100,000. But that's, I mean, I wonder where that ranks nowadays. I don't care. Stack chat. I actually don't wonder. Stack chat. No. Greg's not here today.

Baby brother, Greg Brown, not here again. He's busy with work or something like adult bullshit like that. But unlike adults that we are who are also busy with work and still doing shit, he's decided he can't join us. That's not true. I'm not busy with work. I work in golf, so I don't do shit. That's true. And I build the Internet, so I really don't do shit either. I build the. I wish. Oh, thanks, Al Gore. Jesus fucking Christ, Andy. Oh, he invented it. I just built it. Oh, oh, so sorry. Get it right, Steve. That's my fault. You're right.

So the Patriots coming into this game at eight and two, we're facing the Texans at four and six. And just to point out, the Patriots would not lose another game this season. The Texans would not win another game this season. They would finish four and 12. That's not a lot. They broke them. No, a lot. They will finish 5 and 11. They'll win one more game. Last year, this is their second year in existence. The year before they went four and 12. So not great. But there's still an expansion team. So even though the other two expansion teams that came before them and the Jaguars and the Panthers had that early success, remember they both kind of like made the playoffs the first year in existence.

Yeah, it goes. That didn't happen. The Texans finish 5 and 11 for the last in the AFC South. Did not make the playoffs. And they weren't great. They actually win next week. I just looked it up. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is their wins came against like the Falcons. Decent teams. Yeah, they beat the Falcons who were still... The eventual Super Bowl champion or Super Bowl runner-up Carolina Panthers. Well, thanks for ruining that for me. That was going to be my big reveal. But they also beat the Bills with Drew Bledsoe and one of the other AFC East teams. I can't remember who it was. Do you have it there?

Falcons, Bills, Panthers and the Jaguars and the Dolphins. Yes. Okay. So it's the Dolphins. Week one of the Bills. They'd actually beat the Bills the week before they came to New England at this New England game. And they took New England... We'll say it at the beginning. They took New England to overtime and ended up losing 23 to 20. It was only like four minutes left, five minutes left, some of that. I don't even think it was that long left. Maybe two minutes. It was a... It wasn't really close to being in time, but it was deep. So, we'll start from the end today. The Patriots won this game with an

Adam Venetieri, 20-hour field goal with 45 seconds left in overtime. 45, huh? 45. Yeah. Is this the longest game they've ever played? Without being a tie, maybe. I'm sure there's probably been games that... How many ties does Tom Brady have? You tell me. I know. He doesn't have any. Yeah. Yeah. Bill Belichick has never tied a football game. So, this has got to be the time-wise, the longest. I don't remember them ever kicking

a game-winning field goal with 40 seconds and OT. They've had a bunch of OT wins. It's true. And they even sat on this broadcast. They had won eight straight. Yes. Yeah. But for Tom Brady, this might be his longest ever game. And if it isn't, it's only by seconds, right? Yeah. It maxed like 43 seconds. Yeah. So, yeah. I'm pretty comfortable putting this in longest game territory. 45 seconds left. I mean, maybe not in like probably an actual time, right? That's true. That's one. Maybe is the time-longest game, right?

From like 6 p.m. Eastern to 9.30 or whatever. But this, as far as game time, is probably the longest. Well, they have that on pro football reference. This took three hours and 44 minutes. And how much did the Super Bowl take? I don't know. I don't have that. Let's see if we can look it up. Stat check. Let's actually look up longest NFL game. What year was that? Super Bowl 2018? Yeah. 2016. Wasn't it? No, sorry. You were in 2018. You just win so many. It's hard.

Nope. It wasn't. In 2018. God damn. It's so ready. No, it was 2016. I was right the first time. Jesus. All right. The length of that game was 3 hours and 47 minutes. And this is 344. This is 344. Wow. And it went to 45 seconds left in overtime. Whereas the Falcons Super Bowl went to, it was the first drive of overtime, wasn't it? Yeah. Patriots got the ball and never looked back. Tell you what, listeners will save you an hour of this and just don't watch the first half.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Don't watch the first half. In fact, let's give this a score. I want to hear what you have for a watchability score out of six Lombardies. So I didn't know the, I didn't know the score. I didn't remember this game before I watched it. And I watched the first half and I was like, Celtics are on, you should watch that. And then I looked at the score. I was like, I'll see if there's even touchdowns worth watching. And I saw it over time. So I was like, all right, I'll watch the other half. And then I started playing it and I saw it as like another, you know, as an extra, first half is an hour, second half is an hour and a half.

Yeah. This is a big commitment this week to watching this game. Yeah. Or you can just make it an hour and a half, just cut out the other shit. I mean, you could probably start in the fourth quarter if you want to be honest. Sure. Yeah. I mean, so, I mean, first quarter, nothing happens. The Texan score field goal off of like an actual legit drive was the only legit drive of the whole thing. For Tony Banks and the Texans. Yeah. I've told, told, yeah. So actually, yeah, before, before we dive right in,

I actually want to talk about the Texans because this was the David Carr era, the David Carr King of Sacks, because in the one, two, three, four, five years, he was with the Texans. He had. Yeah. It's not David Carr's fault. Okay. I don't think everyone. No, I'm not, I'm not saying it is, but with the Texans, he was sacked. Well, I mean, He's not the king. He's the poor sap of sacks. Well, the fact that he was able to rack up so many so quickly. Well, the whole line was trash. There was no names on the whole line I'd ever heard of.

In the, the five years he's with Houston, he had 249 sacks. He was sacked that many times. So he didn't have them. He was, he was the victim of 249 sacks. Poor, sappy sack. And this was the only year he didn't get sacked. Actually, let's say this, out of those, this is the only year he didn't get sacked more than 40 times. Well, he wasn't even playing any. He's injured in this game. Right. He only lasted 11 games, but in those 11 games, he was only sacked 15 times, where in 2002, he was sacked 76 times in one season, which let's do the math real quick. 76 divided by 16. He was sacked

4.4 and three quarters sacks per game. He was sacked almost five times a game. And then this year was 15 because he didn't last the season. And then 49 the year after that, 68 to the year after that, and then 41 before he finally left Houston. After he left Houston, he never started a full season, but he also never got sacked more than 13 times in a season. That being true. Tom Brady took four sacks in this game. True. Banks took three. Yeah. David Carr wasn't sacked once. Yeah. It's the cart of zero. Yeah. Because he'd been hurt the week before. Tom Brady, he was getting beaten up. He was. Yeah. This Dom Capers defense, I think, was legit.

It was the Steve Martin revenge game. Is that the same Steve Martin? Yes. It is the same Steve Martin. He played out of his mind. He was crushing it. Yeah. He was so mad at Belichick. He had like two of the sacks or something like that. Something like that. Yeah. He had a bunch of disruptive plays that he was all over the field. He showed up in this game. Yeah. Because there was another banks on there and their defense in both of them, or Martins rather, both of them. I did recognize some guys on, I mean, Aaron Glenn, I guess the cornerback is the only one that I had actually heard of. True. Marlon McCree was on this. Oh, yeah. This team who will recognize.

But like this is like backside, right? Because didn't they form the expansion teams by just picking a bunch of players off the rosters? Because the announcers kept like, hey, I formally have this team and formally that team and formally this team. Yeah. So basically it was, I think you could protect a certain amount of players, but then the yeah, the new team would get to like choose off a certain amount of players off of your team. But yeah, no real names on this defense. Their, their, their, their leaders on defense. A cornerback Marcus Coleman had seven interceptions and 22 pass defense, which is pretty good. Jamie Sharper, who I don't think I recognize had four sacks on the team. But listen to this,

four sacks. This is a linebacker, four sacks, 166 combined tackles, 107 solo. That's a lot of tackles. Yeah. They're, they're other linebacker, 136 combined tackles, 101 solo. The offense can stand the field because that's what it is. They just, and, and the defense couldn't get off the field. Because they had some sick receivers though. They did, but they didn't, I guess they didn't have an offensive line or time to throw it because they finished 28th in the league in points four and 27th in the league in points against Andre Johnson's rookie year. Yep. And I mean, Jabbar Gaffney's, I feel not that old at this point. Right. We'll see. This is the second year. So yeah, we'll see.

Johnson Gaffney, those receivers are legit. Yeah. Andre Johnson was rookie this year, picked third overall from Miami. I mean, you can't least fault their first picks. I mean, David Carr, I think was the consensus number one overall quarterback. Something like that. Yeah. And then second year, I mean, Andre Johnson is on BC. He's probably the best player in Texan's history. Yeah. If he's not, he's up there. He's got to be. I mean, you would take Watson maybe, but when Watson's done, he definitely will be. He doesn't get traded. And Hopkins too for that. Yeah. Yeah. A lot. Hopkins had a chance, but now he got traded. But I think on Andre Johnson's biggest claim to fame is beating the shit out of, what's his name? The cornerback from Tennessee.

Maybe it should be being really good and then not getting traded on trial and roll. I think that's who that big beef was. I feel like it was. I don't know. I know someone like that. I remember that though. Yeah. Stat check. Cortland Finnegan. That's how it was. The man with two Irish first names. Can we talk about our receivers in this game, though? Wait, we had some? Dude, yeah. We had some ones I'd never even thought. I had one of them. I had to take a snapchat of some of my friends. Is this for real? Is this real life?

So we've talked about that. Yeah. The injuries on this season are fucking out of control. The Patriots they said in this game have now had 42 different starters on offense and defense. The last teams to have led the league in starters like overall, none of them finished over 500. Most of them finished with like two or three wins. Yeah. And it was all in the defense and actually they're all back now pretty much. Yeah. But now the offense is barren. Now the wide receivers just getting worked. David Patton is on IR, which did we know that? Did we know he was out for the season? No, I didn't think that. I mean, they dropped it real casual.

They did, yes. But I think that's a more recent development. I don't remember hearing that up until this game. David Gibbons is out. Troy Brown is out, which left Bethel Johnson. Who had a pretty bad game as a pro. Had his first career touchdown in this game. And Daniel Graham, who started the game with three consecutive dropped passes. Felt like more. Sure did. But Brady kept going back to him because he had nobody else. He had Deion out there. So Tom Brady, I wrote this down too, was throwing to guys like Dietrich Ward. Yeah. Dietrich Ward was the first one that I was like. Yeah. And the commentators were even like, no, this isn't preseason, but yes,

you are seeing a wide receiver with number 17 out there is Dietrich Ward. He, I mean, he had some decent seasons with the Jets. Yeah. Long time before this, I think. No, not even 2000. Three years before he had 54 catches, 800 yards. Yeah. And then what? Then what do you do in 2001, 2002? 200 yards, 172. Right. But the other name was even better. 106 yards. Oh, and a TD on the Patriots.

What? Yes. Dietrich Ward? Dietrich Ward gets a touchdown later this season. Hell yeah. All right. Looking forward to that. All right. And then the other big name. The biggest name. The biggest name. This is the one you snapchat, isn't it? Yes. Yes. Was J.J. Stokes, former first round pick of the 49ers.

Who's even out? But yeah, so both of those guys caught passes from Tom Brady in this game, and it was as bad as it sounds, really, on offense. But this is the perfect point for me to point out that early dynasty MVP Troy Brown. I thought it was Kevin Falk. Kevin Falk. That's what he meant. I said Troy Brown on the mind because he's injured and I miss him.

But Kevin Falk, early dynasty MVP Kevin Falk, leading rusher and receiver in this game. Yeah. Yeah. He was just like similar, though, to Graham earlier. He was just a beneficiary of ain't nobody else out there. But he ran for 80 of their 128 total rushing yards. So almost 60, almost two thirds. So done at this point. It's hard to watch. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

And they even have Mike Cloud in here running a couple of times, and he just... He's not bad. He didn't do anything, though. He's not like his first debut, which I was all about, Mike Cloud. Yeah. I think he's got little touchdowns in him, though. Mike Cloud, two carries, eight yards, longest of five.

And then one catch for eight yards. Five and a three. He didn't have any drops. He was fine. Yeah. But then Antoine, because anything's better than Antoine. But then Kay Falk also had 108 receiving yards as well, which was a third of the teams. And he had a crucial, like, penalty on third down on the wheel route,

where he beat the linebacker and he had to hold him at the line. Yep. And he actually had another big screen call back, too. They went for like 20. Oh, yeah. So he had himself a day. And that's because, like you said, there was literally nobody left. But the defense is starting to come into form,

that you remember from this era, that 2003-2004 defense, that was basically impenetrable. And it started kind of early, didn't it? Yeah, half. They said Tony Banks had like seven yards passing or something like that. It wasn't great, yeah. But Nick Gilsing lost that. Yeah.

I mean, Tony Banks finished. 10 of 25 for 93 yards, two touchdowns and an interception in three sacks. That was a rough day. The rating of 60.9. So as bad as Brady's day was, Brady had a bad day, too. Their offense didn't even gain 170 yards total. They had 169. Yeah.

And the Patriots, on the other hand, had 472 total offensive yards, and only put up 20 points. Like, the numbers were stacked on the Patriots' favor. They had, like, offensive plays was something they showed that to. And it felt similar to the Falcons Super Bowl, where they had like 85 offensive plays, but just like kept turning the ball over and shit. Three dimes.

Yeah. I think all of them were Brady's fault. Oh, yeah. Because they had the two interceptions. Every single one. And then Brady got hit as he threw and like, or he was getting dragged to the ground, tried to throw, and he like, it fell out backwards out of his hand.

And that was a return. But getting ahead of ourselves here. You're so lucky, too. Honest turnovers. But yeah, we'll get there. Yeah. But yeah, so the basically the first quarter was just one drive. Surrounded by some three and outs.

And it was Texans try, like, they're starting to pull out all the stops in the first quarter. They tried a flea flicker that didn't work because the pages defensive backs didn't bite on it. But then they get that pass interference that brings them to New England 15. And then they tried another trick play where they did like, they tossed it to Gaffney, but it was it was technically like a throw behind. Throw again. He went to throw and they covered it. Yeah.

And so he reared back. He was going to throw and there was nothing. So he tucked it down and ran for 15 yards down to like inside the one. This is the thing Gaffney that ends up playing in the 2017. Correct. This is that same Gaffney. Oh, I mean, he has. 2006, I think it was even better if you remember from 2007.

It was like that, but like faster and more shifty. He had a sick one there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, he was he was an elusive fellow. But so he takes it down to the one. And so they have first in goal from even inside the one, I'd say. And from there, they go three and out doing the defense in Ted Washington.

There was a quote here. Randy Cross and Kevin Harlan in this one is commentators, which definitely not the A team, but that's fine. I think it was Randy Cross is the color guy. And he was talking about Richard Seymour and how big of a man he was. And Ted Washington is back at this point. So he said, talk about Seymour as a man. Ted Washington is a man and a half.

She's ridiculous. Yeah, they're pretty on on this game. I was not a fan. I did not. But yeah, just like and they they weren't wrong. Like Ted Washington, anybody that can make Richard Seymour look small is a fucking huge human being. And Ted Washington is that team.

Him being back, their run defense short right the fuck up. Yeah. Oh yeah, immediately, especially on especially on this this goal line stand where they basically the the technical three and out from the goal line running it three times. No, they ran it twice up the middle. They threw Greg's favorite route on third. Yeah, through the fade route to Andre Johnson and Ty Law covered it. And then basically teabagged Andre Johnson. He should have got a taunting penalty.

Definitely. Belichick, very mad about that. Yeah, not happy. I just believe Belichick was like, you're so fucking lucky because I would have given the first that would have given three more downs. Because that was on third down, too. Yeah, you were getting off the field and you felt you had to be such a dickhead. You had to fucking stand over him with your balls in his face and wag your finger at him.

He did like legit did that in the commentary like that should have been a taunting. Yeah, sure. Yeah, it should have. But it wasn't. So I just played that perfect. Yeah, it was yeah, it was the perfect throw, too. But yeah, great ball. Yep.

Ty Law just knocked the hands down right at the last second as Andre Johnson got his hands on the football. So they set off a field goal as that's it for the first quarter. Second quarter, Brady says, fuck it. And just drives the team down the field immediately and then hits Bethel Johnson for a 27-year touchdown. Bethel Johnson's first ever as a. He looks to use.

But Belichick Johnson never really could do is break tackles. And he was breaking tackles left and right in this game. He wasn't bad. Yeah, he was running routes and everything, too. He ran like a nice corner out, broke the tackle. And then he's gone. Yeah, you can see that on Ipe City Brady was, too. They on the replay.

Oh, yeah, he was the first one down there to congratulate him. They did those four yards and jumped right into the map. Yeah. He don't do that no more. He does, just not for us. No, I don't even see him getting like, I don't know, like a new player. I don't even watch all the Bucks games.

So I don't know if you. Well, I'm working on new projects. So I had to grab all of the touchdowns he's thrown as a Buccaneer. And he does that. Why are you grabbing everybody? You know, I don't know. Yeah. When it's done, I'll not announce it.

But yeah, he still does it. I'm not whatever. Whenever it's done, I'm not going to watch it. Well, we'll see. We'll see. Yeah. So Brady, so he throws a touchdown. Pats are up seven, three.

And then Texas go three now. Brady immediately drives right back down the field again. They get inside the Texans 20. And then this is fucking ridiculous. Brady gets picked off, throws the interception on. I think it was on third down. There was an exception basically on the goal line to one of their linebackers.

I felt like it was even worse decision than that of him forcing it. It's getting like half tackled. He's on the five yard line. Yeah. He's everybody's packed in there. He just tries to throw it and like three Texans converge in one piece at a time. And it gets picked off.

But as he starts returning it, Bethela Johnson comes and punches the ball out and then the page to recover. I think four-way jumped on it. So the page is actually advanced like 10 yards. So now they're on like the five yard line. But then we got a new set of downs on it. Exactly. Because that's what happens when you fumble and then re fumble it.

And the only reason I knew I knew that rule was when we used to play like Madden or whatever those games were and turn the fumbles all the way up. So every play had three fumbles in it. Oh, yeah. And every play was always a first down because you would fumble it and the other team would pick it up and return it and they would fumble it and just back and forth.

That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So I remember that rule from. It was a real roller coaster of a play. Yeah. So the pages have like first goal from the five. And I think it's like an immediate false start

because this is the season where they almost lead the league in penalties. Like a third at this point. So many penalties. Like eight and a half per game or something ridiculous. So unpatriot like. So I do that. And then Brady ends up like running it twice, which is not good for your offense.

If Brady is trying to run it. He puts in the same situation again and he throws it away. Yeah. But then so they settle for field goal. And at this point, the commentators are on Vinitieri's nuts. Like dangling off with their lips. They actually stopped blaming these commentators because every fucking single commentator said this for about three years.

Oh, Adam Vinitieri has never missed in the dome. They said that in the goddamn Super Bowl, like you're trying to jinx them. So it finally fucking worked. Yeah. Here it is. Go wide receiver position. Here's Adam Vinitieri who has never missed in his career in a dome.

20 yards, 21 yards field goal. And it is through. Cool. So why are we playing that, Steve? Why are we sharing a fucking 21 year field goal on the commentators and on it? Because later he misses one. Okay.

I mean, that's why I said it. Yeah. He misses one and a half. So all right. Well, yeah, way to bury the lead. But cool. So they talk about that, about how he's never missed inside the dome.

He hasn't. He's made 11 of his last 12 field goals. They mentioned it twice. They actually throw up another graphic on it and they're talking about like they were constantly talking about Adam Vinitieri about. He never fucking misses all his kicks. Dude, that happens all the time.

Every time he kicks in the dome. But this was like aggressive. He also won the Super Bowl kicking in a dome. Two years ago. Positive. They said that in the Super Bowl against the Rams. They had that same fucking stat. This is the same stat.

Just updated. I don't. I don't think it did. Because well, maybe they did. Maybe they did. So it's like, yeah, I'll be down to say that. And my note is finally they will stop talking about indoor field goals.

And now you can just fuck up about it because everyone was saying it. I was sick of hearing it. I already know that. I watch every pages game at that point. You know, we'll get some more of it too. But yes. Yeah.

A lot of monetary talk on this. All right. I'm going to get off that before I go on a rant. I thought they were great. So he kicks the field goal, pats up 10-3. And then nothing else happens. Except the Patriots right at the end of the half end up driving to the Texans 20.

And Vinitary, who has never missed. Steve, I don't know if you know this, but he's never missed indoors ever. And because they've closed the roof because it was raining in Houston, this is technically indoors. So he's never missed inside a dome. Doinks it off the right upright in the half.

Yeah, I knew that. So I'm thankful. I'm actually glad for him to miss that. So commentators were sneaky. They had great points. And they said, you know, there's hidden points there where the Texans had first single on the one. And they got three points.

I said, that's four points you're going to miss. And they missed it later. Kick the field goal, miss. He said, you're going to miss those points. So let's talk about these. These guys, Randy Cross and Kevin Harland. So obviously not your A team, right? But they there's a couple of things that bother me

as there tends to be. They were, I don't say like learn a new trick or they were like told to do this, but they loved telling you what the defensive alignment was. It's like, oh, Patriots out in a three, four. Oh, Patriots out in a four, six. They said if they're playing Dime or Nickel, you know, they said five defensive backs for Texans.

So, you know, but they didn't like use that information for anything useful. They just like told you. Yeah, because if you were it goes, oh, maybe that means the Texans are expecting pass, you know. But they didn't even do that though. They just they're like, oh, and the Texans come out in a three, four. I was like, well, but that was it.

I guess some of us here, Andy, are smart enough to know. I do know. But and like at times he was like, oh, they only have two down. The Texans only have two down alignment. Like that's cool. Like expand on it or these are the only two teams in the whole league playing the three, four. So he's, you know, making a comment on how these two defenses

are some of the only two in the league and stroke of luck. Who's coaching this team? Dom Capers. Who ends up, you know, playing a coach with the Patriots. Oh, yeah, he does, doesn't he? Yeah, that's right. Good call. Unlike their defensive coordinator, Vic Fangio,

who's a current Broncos head coach. Oh, I didn't know he was a DC. Yep. And he's not doing great as a head coach, whether or not it's the Broncos situation or him. Let's claim that they're 12 and 20 in his two years there, which is a 375 win percentage for those of you keeping those. Did he do better his first two years in?

No. No. No. So he's, he's improving. Yes. From defensive coordinator first in to head coach first in. It's about the same. Yeah, but they were also talking about how givens out and he had scored

an overtime touchdown against the Broncos or something. Which I don't. He just mixed up the games. He was talking about the Miami game, maybe. Well, that's what they're like. Oh, yeah. He caught a touchdown again in overtime against Miami. I'm like, well, that was Troy Brown.

He's like, no, actually, no. Givens caught the overtime touchdown against the Broncos. I'm like, I know they haven't been in overtime against the Broncos since. Whatever. He's that was a game was intense. You know, it felt like an overtime game with the fake with the intentional, you know, safety and I guess, but had the had the drama intensity of overtime. I don't know.

But then lastly on commentator shooting on the commentators section of the podcast by Andy Brown. I believe it was Randy Cross is talking about the Patriots biggest problem was that they had so many starters that they will dilute their own Pro Bowl votes. So they won't have anybody go to the Pro Bowl because they've had so many starters. Like, but Ty wall probably gets a vote. So Rodney Harris will get some stats. And he liked how they operated as a team.

OK, stats, which is true. OK, great little bit of commentating. He said this screen game, how many reception yards and Kevin Falk have? He's like, it is the deodorant for this Patriots offense. You know, because they stunk out loud. The whole offense stunk out loud. Except for Kevin Falk, your early season MVP. Early dynasty MVP.

You're rushing and receiving because he's right. Did the rest of the offense did stink? Well, they did not deserve to win this game. Oh, I'm going to say that right now. Yeah. They put it over. They had so many penalties. They're so shit. Yeah. And even like they're their typical score both sides of the half,

which they were kind of set up to do. Vinniteri hits the upright at the end of the half. And then they get the ball coming out of halftime, drive down to the Texas 35. And go for it on fourth, right? Yeah. It's it's fourth and five. And I don't know if they just like didn't trust that. Like if there was something going on with them or what, but they're like, man, it's it's kind of out of his range.

It was long. It was like, what a 50 yarder. Yeah. It was 50 plus, I think. Adam hits those. And your commentators, your boys, they're like, oh, Adam Vinniteri is like money from a 50 plus. It's got as long as a 57. So there should be a chip shop for him. And then the page like now, and he's going to go from fourth and five.

And they didn't get it. Nope. Grant should have had it. Why would you go in the offense? Kind of, you know, it's dumb. There's no big plays, really. There's the one Bethel couple of late, late, you know. Well, and even on that play, they took a deep shot too,

which almost made me think of like, they were fine with giving up that field position because their defense was so good. And the Texans had done literally nothing so far in the first half. And it worked out because Texans only from the 34 got to about midfield before they had to punt. And they actually pointed out, I'll give you this point, they pointed out that the Patriots were actually doing a little bit of the zero blitz that we'd seen work more recently. And that what they call themselves.

But it didn't work. Oh, in the Jets, the seeing goes. Darno game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not quite the same, but yeah. But it was that defense, whereas the zero blitz, they had no strong say. But it was also the Blitz that bit the Cowboys in the ass last week against the Patriots, where the only plays the Patriots actually got yards off of where the Cowboys did that zero blitz.

So I don't know if that was like Belichick. Definitely was. Given the big old middle finger to Bill Pirce, I was like, oh, yeah. And Blitz like inexperienced Tony Banks, which is an experienced Tom Brady. He's got a Super Bowl win. That's right. He feasts on that blitz. But speaking of Bill Belichick,

this was they showed a stat that he was in this game 500 for his career. So this would be the last time he'd be 500, right? Oh, sure. Because he'll never because he goes on this massive win streak and he'll never lose that many in a row. So not only was he 500, but he was 69 and 69. Oh, nice. So yeah, I mean, you can watch this game just for that if you want.

Yeah, what was the time stamp when that stat comes up in? Good question. Did I screenshot it? I don't think I did. I'll have to go back and find it. How's it not the highlights on the website? That's true. It should be.

Right after that, the possession though, Tom Brady throws a stupid pick. Yeah, he does. Returned it to R29. If the Patriots, I didn't just play like a bunch of assholes, I would have won this game easily, but they just turned it over at terrible times. God is so lucky. Yeah, these kill drives and just let the Texans hang around and actually take a pretty good lead. Right.

So instead of like putting the game away there, like the each side of the half scoring a couple of points in the middle there and being up by a couple of scores because they went in the halftime 10-3. It could have been 13-3 and then like score again on the second half. And now you're up by two scores. Instead, Brady gets picked off Texan start at the Patriots 11. I think it was like two plays later under Johnson had to touchdown. So now it's tie game 10-10.

Yeah, that's going to feel pretty good about themselves. Right. But then Brady in true Brady fashion gets the ball back and immediately storms right down the field again and like fuck you mode. This is where he hits JJ Stokes to get inside the 10 yard line. Every one yard bomb. Yeah, that was that was your JJ Stokes. Snapchat.

Siding. Yeah. Of the game. And so going into like Brady got sacked on third down in the last play of the third quarter. So fourth quarter starts with Vinitary hitting a short field goal, which he actually makes. So off the Schneid again, kind of. And now we're in the fourth quarter and this is where shit just kind of goes a little wild because it's it was 10-10 at the end of the third.

And this game ends 23-20. In overtime. Right. 30 seconds left. In overtime. Right. So and Vinitary just kicked the field goal to make it 13-10. Just skip to this quarter.

You know, you don't need to see. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So skip to the fourth quarter. We've talked you through all of it. Yeah, just we should mark what time that starts. So just get the video and start it at. Yeah, we should. By the last like 45 minutes.

It probably is. Yeah. Just started the second half. But yeah, and the game is on YouTube. So you can find on the website. And I'll post a link in the show notes to the website so you can find all this stuff. And dynasty.info. That's right.

Where I used to think it was. I don't know why I thought this when you first started this website. I thought it was die nasty. It is. Well, like nasty and all caps. So like you didn't say dynasty. It was like the Patriots dynasty was nasty. We put the nasty in the dynasty.

Yeah. I don't know why I thought that for a good year. I bet you did. Well, I mean, it is because you can't read probably. So that's what you want to read. It's time to net out. Oh boy, Steven. How long did it take you to learn how to spell your name?

Because it's got the pH in it. Probably wasn't easy. I don't know. Well, they tried to hold me back in first grade. And mom said no. Scargy full life. True story. Yeah.

Because she had a problem with the teachers and said, you know, holding them back. Like he can't even read. She was like, I don't care. I'm gonna hold them back. So and then I went on the second grade. Damn. Good for you.

I'm gonna be very convincing, Andy. You know that. This is true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I have nothing to add. She's very convincing. That British accent people are like,

oh, you're so charming and convincing. Yeah. No, she convinced a lot of people to do a lot of things. I won't give you a speeding ticket. Yeah. Oh, well, that's because she used to cry or pretend to cry when she got pulled over. And being British, you know,

doing like 80 on the back roads and her little fucking Z4. Jesus. Some people. I wonder what she's yelling at the radio right now because I know she's listening to this. She's probably quilting. She's getting all fired up. That's all you're about it.

She's going, oh, yeah, I'll get the text. Well, we'll read it next week. So let's get into the fake tuck rule because that's the next big play here. It is. Yeah. So because, yeah, the Patriots hit the field goal to start the quarter and then Texas's,

Texans immediately go three and out and punt it. And so New England, again, drives straight down the field. Like David, like Brady tries to, he did this a couple of times a game, but he tried to QB sneak on the third and like five. Yeah. And the last time you got, you picked up seven. And this time he picked up four.

So it's three. So it's fourth and two. And really just run it straight down the Texans' throat with Kevin Falk, who picks up. That's not, that's not just me. Like they're just getting big chunk plays. It's three yards, 12 yards, three yards, two yards, three yards, four yards, something like that.

That's kind of how the game's been. Like the Patriots offense is just like barely springing it together, you know? But it kind of felt inevitable too. Like they're just picking up steam and just. Only because the Texans offense was absolute hot garbage. Hot. It was.

As it hadn't been for our turnovers, they would have like zero points. Right. Yeah. Oh yeah. They haven't been able to actually do anything, maybe get a field goal, but because we've been keeping them in the game,

they've been just taking advantage. They've been capitalizing when they've been given some turnovers. Which I think the commentators were kind of alluding to that's kind of how this team was running. Or the half game, which is true. Yeah. And they were, yeah, they were.

Next week we got the Colts, the who are also like into or whatever. Yeah. But they were there because they were just like hanging with teams because they're good defense and then trying to capitalize on the mistakes. And the Patriots made plenty of those. Which is kind of a Patriots strategy anyways.

Yeah. And I think what. This past season. After one of these, after one of these touchdowns. There was one of his touchdown passes every three games and. And you win it. Yeah. Yeah.

Exactly. But after one of these touchdowns, they even said commentators like, I don't know what that noise is. It's either fireworks or it's the sound of the trap snapping shut on the Patriots leg. They talked about it all. God.

Oh, I love that one. God, you would. Which I know exactly when they say that it's coming up. Tom Brady fumbles it again. Yeah. Throws it backwards. They almost say but a tuck rule, but they weren't because the tuck rule is still in effect.

Sure is. But instead he actually threw it backwards. Yeah. It was actually a very similar looking plate to the snowball. Unseen linebacker coming off the edge and just. Yeah. So this guy was from the blind side, but yes. And so yeah, they just converted the fourth and two

and they're like inside Texans territory. And Brady gets hit from behind. Like literally fumbles the ball backwards as if you'd like throw it backwards. And one of the Texans linebackers picks it up on like the full sprint and gets down to. He's using 36. How was it on 35?

They take it all away. To New England's 31. Yeah. And so starting there, they would eventually convert one of their few third downs because Texans, this I did take a screenshot of. Houston Texans on the season were converting third downs at 33.3%. Not great.

This is Andre Johnson. I mean. And they were to Andre in this game. They were two of nine on the game until this Andre Johnson, third and nine conversion. He had a tough first half, but he picked up in the second half, which is, I mean, this is game, what, 10 for him or whatever it is. Yeah.

12 or whatever. I think we're a week 12. As a pro, he's getting covered by Ty Law. Right. He's pumping the shit out of him. He doesn't convert to the third down. But they actually even like before the game started, they were talking about how, oh, we talked to Ty Law.

And yeah, he's hurt. But usually he would cover the, like the leading wide receiver and just like follow him across the field wherever he goes. But they're so happy with Tyrone Pool and the way he's covering that Ty Law is just going to play one side of the field. And if AJ goes the other side, he's just going to be covered by Ty. They're trying to go after him to Tyrone Pool, played it really well. Tyrone Pool had himself a game in this game.

He had similar to like the Steph Jacksonville AFC championship. Yeah. The Gilmore. But it was kind of over his head more and not like a dive out. It was a very similar play. Yeah. And he's been doing that for the past few weeks in a row now. They keep targeting him on the deep ball and he covers it textbook every time.

He's in the receiver's back pocket. And as the ball gets there, he tips it away. It doesn't go over your side, but he just tips it away. A lot better than I remember. I'll say that. Tyrone Pool. You could almost call him a shutdown corner this year. Yeah.

He's not allowing anything. It was like the early Brandon Browner days, but he wasn't as physical, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But having that like solid number two. One and two are both sweet.

Yeah. Exactly. And so he's better than like he can easily cover the number two wide receiver on any offense, basically. Andre Johnson had 13 targets, four catches. 37 yards and a touchdown. Wait. How many targets?

13. Yeah. How is it? That's the next highest on their team. It was three and then a couple of guys at two. Holy shit. Yeah. He had.

He only had one. I only thrown once to Jabbar Gaffney. That's it. They threw it 13 times at Andre Johnson. Yeah. And threw it 12 times, not at Andre Johnson. And he had four catches for 37 yards and a touchdown. Yeah.

I mean, but like he had that big touchdown, that big moment. That's true. Yeah. He had a good second half and I even. Yeah. I mean, for what their anemic offense was, he was the only one doing anything. He was there, Kevin Fault, basically. He scores that touchdown after the Tom Brady fumble there.

They're Titan Miller. You don't know his first name. Billy Miller. Woof, rough name. That was bad parenting. Rhyming your kid's names. Billy Roshan Miller. What?

Okay. Yeah. Long time tight end played quite a few. Pretty much at this point doing everything because he was so wide open that that's the one where Ronnie Harrison slips and like dude had no defender within 10 yards of him. Oh yeah. It's super open because yeah, like he said, Ronnie Harrison fell on this.

And I wrote they're doing everything we can to lose this game. Yeah. Well, every thing again. Yeah. It was in 10 from the 16. And not only that. Yeah. Not only that is they do that, right?

They allow the touchdown off of Brady's fumble. Get the ball back. Immediately go three and out and then they have their punt blocked. So Texas start again on the New England 20 yard line. You're like, what the fuck? Because I just, I don't even think I've said this yet. But I tried to have Ryan's story on today because if you listen every week, you remember we had them on for a loss because like

we only watch shitty games together. Every game you watch together, the Patriots either lose in terrible fashion. And this was the one game we've watched where they won. And when I was talking to him, he's like, oh yeah, I remember that. They lost that game, didn't they? And then he looked at me like, oh wait, they won that game? I don't even remember feeling that good. Like it didn't because it sucked.

They tried their hardest to lose this game. Well, even on that three and out with the punt block, Tom Brady fumbles and gets it back on third down. No, I think he fumbled it on second down and got sacked on third down or something like that. It was the third. The drive was an absolute trap. Whatever it was, the third down and five, he fumbles a snap. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Then they get the punt blocked and bell check. He cuts the bell check and he looks so fucking mad. He's flippant because it's first and 10 on our 20. Yeah. Then after they just go to touchdown. Right. And you're already down a touchdown.

Yeah. A minute later, two minutes later. Yeah. So it's no, no, you're down four because you're down 1713 at this point. So Texas, the Texans start doing the 20 and just immediately go three and out because the defense just fucking nuts up and says, nah, we're just not having this. Really? Really started to take it over at this point.

So that's their second huge red zone stop. Apart from the goal line one at the beginning of the game and now this one. And it's just like this defense like, you know what? No, we're going to drag you through this. We're going to make you going to give you one last chance. The Texans settle for field goal. And there's a few minutes left. Page to get the ball like inside the at their own 20, I want to say,

because they had a good kick return, but that got called back for holding because of fucking course it did. Unlike Dan Kleko of all people who. Three minutes, four seconds, first and 10 from your 20. Yeah. Down by touchdown. Right. Two timeouts.

Yeah. So it gets so it gets to a third and 10, I think, right? I'm doing this off top of my head and they get a first down on their first play. And then. Oh, right. Yeah. Could Brady Brady's like threads the needle to the Deon branch for one. It was like two catches on the entire game.

It wasn't even targeted really. And then yeah, first down, second down, just completely incomplete. Third and 10. Like this is this is your drive. You got to score here or else you're going to lose a game. And Brady run around the pocket looking like fucking Michael Vick or someone. He had some good escape ability. Actually, he had some great.

He like spun out of a tackle because he kind of he was backing like to his left, like backed into the the defensive end that came there and spun out of them. And then kind of like ran over to the right and then back to the middle. Your highlights on this. Oh, I have. It's good. It'll be up on the site once this goes. I grabbed that.

You got the two touchdowns on here and there's a lot more great plays like that one. Well, that that's that's the only other good one. He's a kind of hidden place because he doesn't score a touchdown, but he throws that awesome ball to Daniel Graham. We've been absolute crap. Yeah. Who actually hangs on to it? Great catch.

If you're going to catch one of them, at least it was that one. That's the one. Yeah. 33 yards on third down. Tom Brady did everything to like make keep the play alive. Yeah. Dead. And he kept it alive.

And that throw is like. It's a sweet throw. Yeah. Yeah. It was a missile. So it hits Graham for 33 and then comes straight back and screened to Falk for 21. Now the pages are in business. This is where their deodorant quote was.

Oh, was it? Yeah. They're like, dude, that deodorant is the because like they're just catching them. And they've been screening them to death. They have. Yeah. And the Texans had no answer for it whatsoever. They're still just running straight up field.

And there was some good quality. Like they were they were doing the. They did one screen where they faked like they faked the screen to the left to Falk and then very spun around the screen to the other side. So Patrick Pass, he was playing fullback. They've always had a great screen game now. Yeah. You haven't seen it as much of late.

That's true. I feel like. But yeah, back in the day, their screen game was phenomenal. But so they get inside the inside the Texans 10 yard line, right? And it's third and five. And they do a quick draw to Kevin Falk who picks up like four and three quarters. Yeah. I think the spot was iffy, but it's fourth and one from the four.

Yeah. With under a minute left. And so they do play action. Brady rolls out to his right and is like left. They called the boot like it was the naked boot. It wasn't a naked. It was the give going left and he boots and the and the end guy doesn't fall for it. Just does not fall.

So Brady's like the cornerback off to the corner and he doesn't fall for it. So his tight end is covered and Brady's like running there getting chased on fourth and one. And like running like backwards diagonally away from the play. You're like, oh, fuck, I've seen this before. Away from the pressure. Yeah. It was against his body to Graham. Yeah.

Into double coverage. And Graham just like plucks it out of the defensive backs hands as he's going to the ground for the time touchdown was 40 seconds left. Like talk about redemption. Man, drop his first three balls to the point where the commentator was talking about how he's like, oh, have you seen little giants where the kid who can't catch is like talking to his hands? It's like, oh, Graham's going to get to that point.

Brady, I just looked it on the highlight. Brady threw the ball from the 14 yard line on fourth and four. Running backwards. Yeah. From four yards to the goal. And so he threw it 18. Probably he threw it all the way to the back of the end zone. So you probably threw the ball 30 yards on the run backwards.

Yeah. And hit Graham in the hands who held on to this time. Probably Graham's best touchdown. He threaded the needle. Sweet. You can take those highlights and just like slow him down. You can see him thread the needle. Between two defenders at the goal line and Graham just out jumps the cornerback.

The throw is exactly where it needed to be. Well, you couldn't really put anywhere else. Dude, if Rape was in there. Yeah, Rape was the first one to congratulate. And Cleco was the fullback, I think, because they were talking about that. They did a hard run. And they booted it. Oh, ballsy.

And it was covered and it still worked anyway. One of those Brady wasn't going to let that not work. Which is different than what we see now it is. Awesome. One of the championship plays out of Brady right there. Yep. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's what you knew, right?

It was like when all the pressure was on. Yeah. Brady is at his best. It's that comparison. I mean, going back to watching Brady this week as a Buccaneer playing against the... Sure. Aaron Rodgers packers. And Aaron Rodgers, he's kind of the opposite.

Like he plays big until he gets to the big moment and just doesn't seem to... I don't know. It's not that he can't hail. He just doesn't seem to make the right decision, I guess. He just... And Brady has that... No one else really. Maybe Montana has that same just extra gear, you know?

Yeah. That killer instinct right at the end. Those big moments, if he hadn't made that third and 10 play, he wouldn't even have the opportunity to the fourth and one boot, you know? But when it's third and long, and you've seen this, I mean, I can think of... A bunch of plays off top of my head of like, it's third and long and the season's on the line. So, or even the game's on the line or whatever. And Brady completes it into like, gets 17 on third and 16, you know?

Against the Jaguars and their top ranked defense. He also gets incredibly lucky, too. Sometimes. And he comes up in overtime. Let's get there. So, speaking of luck, some bad luck on the pager's part because the Texans win the toss. Did you hear the... did you hear the off mic? Fuck.

From Tom Brady. From the pager's when they lost it. That was Tom Brady because he called Tails. He's like, we want Tails. I want that one. And then I think somebody on his team was like, really? He's like, absolutely. And then he flips it to his heads.

He's like, fuck. And they definitely didn't cut away from that quick enough. Yeah, mostly. Yeah, that was great. So, Texans receive the ball. First play from scrimmage. Your boy Tony Banks gets picked off by Mike Rabelval people. And returns it to the Texans 23.

This game's fucking over. Yeah. Patriots three runs up the middle. The third one is their patented Tom Brady fall to the middle of the field. QB sneak to set it up perfectly. So 23 yard field goal from dead smack dab in the middle of the field. And at this point, you know, I'm talking about how the Texans has, as a franchise, have never blocked a field goal.

Adam Ventieri hasn't had a field goal block since opening day 1998. Before we get there, pretty sure this is Mike Rabel's first INT. No, he's had one. He has four this season. He's had one against Miami. I think it was Brady's second start to this season. The game started with a with an interception by Mike Rabel and then went down from there.

He had two in 2001. I'm an idiot. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I remember one of them. But yes. So the first interception, though, over time, first play game. Game over.

Yes. Like, oh, thank God, let's get out of here. You draw him out there. He's only missed one field goal in a double. Yeah. At this point, like I'm sitting at Ryan's stories after a very heavy night of drinking. I'm super hungover.

I'm like, let's just end this so I can go back to sleep. Adam Ventieri gets this field goal. His field goal from the 23 yard line blocked. He's like, you got to be fucking kidding me. This game is never going to end. I was about to turn it off. I actually didn't even know when time was left. And I was like, I'll turn it off at right office and put the Celtics on.

And then it blocked. And I was like, didn't see that coming. Nope. I should have, because I saw how long the second half was. I really should have put two and two together. And I'm like, why is there an extra 30 minutes on this? And yet. And then from there, the Texas drive,

like inside New England territory, get to the 40. And this is like, they have a good kicker, too. We're going to talk about the announcer's jinxing up, double jinxing the block. Oh, I did. The Texas have never blocked a field goal. And Adam Vinitieri hasn't had a field goal blocked yet in their, in their history as a team.

And Adam Vinitieri, last time he had a field goal block was opening day 1998. That's, I mean, we're 2003. So that's five years. Right. He hasn't had a kick block in five years. So of course, you know what happens gets blocked. Of course. Because of fucking course it does.

And then the Texans drive to about New England 40, right? And so they have a decision to make. This is the best their offense has looked in a while. Yeah. This is the first drive they put together outside of the first quarter because they've done the sidelines the whole time. Right. So they drive to the New England 40 yard line

and they have a decision to make. And their decision apparently is to punt it. Yes. You know, fill me back. God, I thought this was the worst decision everybody got. Punting, playing not to lose. Oh, so now I hate that. I hate that.

Yeah. Punting from the New England 40s. It's such a tough look. We've seen that a lot against these Patriots. But like just go for it. You know, like just try to win. If you hit that, you're you got the game over. Already had possessions too.

You know, actually didn't even count. Didn't even matter at that point versus score wins. I mean, they did pin New England's inside their own 10, right? Oh, their strategy actually works. Yeah. Because the page is. Oh, this is where Brady gets sacked, isn't it? They go free and outbreak.

It's sacked on third down and they're putting out their own end zone. No. Well, whatever. It's what it's around here. They go four yards. No. Yeah. Four yards.

No game. Nine yards. Zack. They're on the 13th. OK. Yeah. No on their four. Right.

And so the Patriots basically punt from their own end zone. And Texans do nothing. Well, they don't need to because like they already started in field goal range. They get it on the Patriots 35. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Because Kim Walder was 31 yard punt. Just I actually looked away at that point.

So I was glad I didn't see that. Such a bad game. And this is a bad season for Kim Walder in general. Kim Walder, he sucks. So he's suck. I didn't expect anything better out of him. Not. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Not at this point of the season. Well, we're punted in the AC. They keep saying that. Yeah. Yeah. He's I think it's maybe the second worst in the league. If not the worst at this point, he's just not good.

He's so bad. He's bad when he's in the last time. But yeah. So the drive chart for this next drive. Dominic Williams, right tackle, no gain. Left end minus five yards. And now they're back on the New England 40 again. And what do they do?

They go at a pool and pool makes it great. It was Willie for tackle, no gain. Willie tackle, five yard loss. Yeah. And then Tyrone Pool makes a fantastic play on on third down on Andre Johnson. But it wasn't even like they were they were going for the shot again. It was like a 20 yard route. Yeah.

And like if they picked up the five yards that they lost, like that's that's a they're in field goal range. They can give it a shot. And instead they're back on the Patriots 40 yard line. And we know from last time they didn't kick it field goal from there. So they punted again. And again, fair catch at the 14 yard line for Kevin Paul. The Patriots started 14.

One thing there again, like, I don't know, go for it. Just anything. Let's just try something. And then what happens to you? Well, then it's Tom Brady time again. So 16 yards, Kevin Faulk. Five yards to Dietrich Ward. 14 yards to Bethel Johnson.

13 yards to Deion Branch. 10 yards to Christian Fourier. And now they're just running because they're they're inside. This is also the best of Patriots offense. It's like I think because the Texas defense was so tired to at this point. They'd rent. Yeah, they've been on the field for so long that you know, similar to the Atlanta.

This game has similarities to Atlanta Super Bowl in that. Eventually just they just couldn't stand to the onsite of Tom Brady. And they're just yeah. And so this this drive was especially inevitable. But the Brit didn't end in a touchdown like it did in the Super Bowl. But they get inside the 20. Kevin Faulk up the middle five yards. Kevin Faulk on the middle three yards.

And on third and two with 45 seconds left out of Vinitary. Finally managed to connect on a 28 year field goal. That makes it through the uprights. And the Patriots escape with how many wins in a row. Yeah, snuck out of the trap, managed to shed there. The trap that close on their leg. One, two, three, four, five, six. This is now their seventh win in a row.

They're nine and two first place in the AFC East. And they're showing the chiefs were nine and one. And we're playing again later in the day. And the Colts were also nine and two after beating them. After beating the Buffalo Bills coming from behind in similar fashion. Which is great because next week speaking of Indianapolis Colts. Let me touch on my Brady is lucky. And not just grand.

I'm not saying it's not great. I'm saying it's great and lucky. Touch it, Steve. Touch the second play of that overtime drive where he just says see you later. He throws that brutally bad pick where the safety comes over intercepts it. And it was just just way overthrown, just an awful ball. And he gets picked and there's like a no daughter, you know. And there's that holding penalty under Steven.

They showed the replay of it pretty a couple of times. And I saw nothing there. Yeah. It was like the softest call of all time. He just got so big because he almost just three minutes left in overtime throws a pick. There was a few soft calls in this game. Like they called the Texans linebacker for roughing the passer to him. Brady's like game tying touchdown.

You're like, that's true. He pushed him as he threw the ball. Yeah. Today's dangerous. It wasn't that bad. And back then this is actually kind of when it starts though. It is. It is.

The season is sort of when it really starts to, they call it so much harder on the quarterback. Absolutely. Yeah. It was, I'll give you that. He was lucky on that play. All right. Let's do some bests and worse. All right.

You go first this time. I always go first. I'm happy that he didn't jinx the overtime with their, they won eight or seven straight and overtime. They put that up a couple of times. So I thought they were going to jinx that too. They also said that they had won 16 consecutive games on leading and halftime too. Didn't manage to jink that.

It was a Josh Beckett siding. The Marlins. I guess he's, yes. Yeah. He's a Texas boy. We'll see you again, Josh. We sure will. He's going to be a very rich man.

Very, very rich. Very rich man. There was a Air horn during a fair catch. Oh, yeah. It's like a Patriots player is catching a punt and the air horn did right as soon as about to catch it. So I thought, you know, got to respect that.

That's some good hustle. No, it's fucked up. Lasers in the eyes. That's not legit. You know, true, but an air horn. I don't know. There's whistles there and you got to be able to concentrate. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just like making noise. I don't need to just hold an air horn down. That's just the fucking annoying. But if you blew it right when they're trying to catch, I'm kind of hit on that. Yeah. Get it. And my best of the best.

I don't know if you noticed this, but I certainly did. And the commentator is actually very briefly touched on it because like I first noticed it and I was like, well, I wonder when they're going to comment on it. And they did the first game. And I was like, whoa. The Belichick cut off sleeves hoodie. This is the first cut off sleeve hoodie game. It was so bad.

Oh, it was the first. It was the first time they talked about it. I'm telling you, go back and watch it. They're like, I've been waiting for this thing. It's so bad. And he has like something strapped around his chest. Someone lay out as close for them. And I'm thinking, like, no way.

Just go check out some of his clothes out for him. No, no, just because he wasn't a Super Bowl buddy. No, he grabbed that out of the dirty hamper. You fucking know. He's like, oh, fuck it's that'll do. Oh, these sleeves are all along. Let's cut these off real quick. Where's my box cutter?

He probably does his own laundry, too. Yeah, but badly. He probably just like froze everything once a week. And it's like completely overstuffed the thing. So nothing actually gets clean. Let's sit for a day. So like it's all moldy. Yeah, that's what I do.

Yeah. Yeah, just like the rest of us. I'm pretty much cleaning it right away. You know, I don't get that shit to get moldy. I'm not. I wash my shit at least twice because I forget the first time. And then probably the worst. You can see Tyler super hurt.

He was limping everywhere. Yeah, they said something about he had like a peck strain or something like that or something. Oh, it was his his ankle then hurt all year. He's missed a couple of games. Yeah. But his hamstring was also tweaked. But they said something about like something to do with his

like ribs or his his pecks or like something like that, too. Yeah. Because because the commentator was like, you know, that's the sort of shit that would like hurt me getting out of bed. Yeah. And he's out there playing a football game with it. The same they said. Yeah.

So yeah. All right. Is that your? That was my best and worse. Love it. All right. Let's see. My best sneaky best was Tyrone pool,

not only playing great defense, but returning puns today and doing a damn good job of it. And Patrick Pass was back on kick returns. And I like that. I like Patrick Pass. I remember liking him returning kicks. Yeah. But Tyrone pool for returns 42 yards.

Is that everything over 10 yards apart return? Not too shabby. So not bad. Yeah. He's considering on special teams. He's like a number two corner. He's a great signing. And yeah.

I got to use this good. And his fucking coverage is outstanding. Yeah. Um, I mean, the worst is the first three quarters game. And the goddamn commentators talking about Adam and Terry never missing so that he would miss. They did talk a lot about how great the field was though. And I guess there was like trays of grass that they they move in and out.

Sure. But they clipped together seamlessly. But then Adam and Terry couldn't kick a field goal. And Rodney Harrison fell over nothing. That's not the grass as well. Bethel Johnson had a touchdown that he could do what they do where they just roll it outside and grow it and then roll it inside. But it's the same idea.

Grow it outside and pull it in. So I'm sure it was in good shape. Better shape than the Patriots. You know what they should have done, though? If they wanted to grow grass outside, not put a fucking roof on it. We're in Texas. What playing the fucking rain? How often is a rain in Texas?

No, it's so hot. Who cares? Dude, it's fucking ridiculous on it. We went to Dallas. It was so fucking hot there. I didn't go there. Because it was so hot. I didn't go because it was too fucking hot outside.

Man, I couldn't even stay outside for more than 30 minutes. We had a pool, too. Dolphins don't stay there. I need to be sitting in the shade in this pool. It's so fucking hot. Well, you're also like the whitest skinned person I know. With that forehead, like... Down here in Virginia.

Real hot. Look at that hot. It doesn't get Texas hot apparently. It's a little bit of a small difference. It's fucking humid. Humid. This is... No, humid is New England.

It's dry heat in Texas. That's fine. But that's why they don't have... That's why they play in the dome because it's so hot. Florida is the same thing. I guess. I mean, the dolphins don't, but the marlins do. Sounds like some...

Raids do. Millennial snowflake bullshit to me. Sitting in the sun. Shit sucks. Oh, no. How do they handle it in Miami? I guess they just do a bunch of drugs. Even though they have the fucks going on.

True. There's just so much cocaine. They just sweat it all out immediately. And my worst, I will do this, is they show a graphic of... The Texans in games following a win. So the week after they win a game. The title of it was one and done. Because they had never won two games in a row

as a franchise yet. They were 0 and 7. They averaged 12 points per game and allowed an average of 30 points a game. And they were outgained 259 to 355. And their turnover ratio was negative 11. Yeah. So they don't this year, because they only win one more game. Right.

And not the next game. Right? Or maybe it was. Well, they don't win two more in a row. Yeah, because they don't win two in a row. Right. So let's see. When's the first time I went to a 2004 week, three and four?

Yeah, 2004 week, three and four. They go seven and nine. And then they lose again. Under Dom. They win two games in a row, then lose. They don't win more than two games in a row. Well, they won two games in a row. What?

When does that happen? Then they go two and 14 under Capers and he gets five. Yeah. OK. So that's not good. And then so 2006 still don't win. Oh, they win their last two games of the season to go six and 10 and get a shitty draft spot.

2007, they win their first two games and then lose. And then win two games back to back in week 14 and 15. And then they start 2008 with four losses. Oh, they win three games in a row. They start off four losses and then win three in a row. It's the first time they win more than two games in a row. Oh, boy. It's 2008.

Tom Brady's already gone fucking 16 in a row. 2008. They can go four. No, he's already gone 16 in a row. So that's the first time they win more than two games in a row and they still finish eight and eight. They have a three game win streak and a four game win streak. They follow a four game up with a three game lose streak.

That's not great. And then follow that up with another four game win streak. 2009, they have their first winning season by winning the last four games of the season. Oh, my goodness. I mean, there's some big Texan games to come when Andre is like an even more of a beast, you know? Right.

So he gets really good in the match-shop years. Yep. Yeah, we'll see that coming up. But before that, we have maybe the regular season game of the season. Like the premier, most memorable. I don't even remember any of these games. So I'm looking forward to it.

I was thinking when I was watching this, I was like, I don't even remember who we play in the playoffs. Steve. I really don't. I can't even read like the AC Championship for life. You don't tell me. I want to figure it out. He'll figure it out.

But yeah. So next week, it's the nine and two New England Patriots facing the nine and two Indianapolis Colts for battle four. I think technically second place in the AFC at this point, maybe. Yeah. Depending on how the Chiefs do, I don't actually know at this point. But yeah. So it's going to Peyton Manning's house.

We haven't been there since the David Patton game, I think. You know, one? Yes, for sure. So it's been a couple of years. We're back there because they were. Because they're recently out of the division. Once the Texans joined, that's when the Colts left. Correct.

2002 was when the realignment happened. So they're no longer in the division. Although I will say, one of my favorite jet statistics is that the Indianapolis Colts have more AFC East championships than the New York Jets do. And they haven't been in the AFC East since 2002. That's great. The Houston Oilers also have

as many AFC East championships as they haven't been in since. Like, yeah, who the hell knows how long. So that's a good time. So yeah, next week, the battle wagons meet. It sounds like Greg said he would be on that one. Yeah. Yeah. He's not going to.

He said he may even watch the game. So that's how you know. Yeah, that's true. So I had big expectations. So get ready for a five Lombardi watchability score or something for next week on the Patriots. Oh, wait, before we call out, don't forget. If you would like to drop us a line, Steve,

if people want to get a hold of us. Yeah, I can't remember it. If your if your mama Brown, what do you do? You just you just fucking call up Steve and yell at him. Or you can text the Dynasty Hotline 603 505. Troy Brown for three 8043. That's right. Troy Brown for three.

You can do that. I never remember the 505. I'm so bad at it. That's all right. Give us a text. It's SOS. So save our souls. Save our season.

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