Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2003 Week 15: Patriots vs Jaguars

Episode Date: March 2, 2021

The warm-weather Jacksonville Jaguars visit snowy Gillette for a battle of 2 of the hottest defenses. Will Fred Taylor and Byron Leftwich be able to outperform a Patriots offense that sees Troy Brown returning to the lineup? I think we all know the answer to that one.Notes:Here's the game link in case you'd like to watch the game or the highlights.Greg reminded us of Marino's last playoff game. You can watch the carnage on YouTube.This 2003 Jaguars team was the previous team to allow a last-play lateral TD. The ending is WILD.We mentioned the Momma Brown episode. You can hear that one here.Don't forget to text us your thoughts on the Dynasty Hotline! [phone]Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast, as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Page of Diancy podcast. I'm Andy Brown, and we are today my brothers, Steve and Greg. Steve, how you doing? Purrific. Oh, God.

It's a new dog, dad, Steve Brown. Yeah, but I said I was purrific, Andy, not barkerific. Oh, we got a woofer. A little baby woofer is part of family. He's a doggy guy, you know. A little purr baby. Do you have a bumper sticker where it's you and your girlfriend and the dog now is stick figures? Wait, wait, Greg, you hate purr baby, don't you? Of course.

Oh, yeah, I'm definitely going to call this dog my purr baby all the time. I expect nothing less. In fact, while you were out of the room just now, before we started recording, me and Andy were discussing, and we came to the agreement that it's very fitting that you got the runt of the litter because you're the runt of mom and dad's litter. Yeah, I guess I spare. I don't I don't choose the smallest, but we are certainly the last one. Well, just the dumbest and most uncouth. Yeah, I want my dog to be like me, Greg.

The runtiest. The runtiest. The runtiest of the brown litter, Stephen. Oh, God. Mom is now yelling at this podcast. That's not true. And Greg, the printiest of the brown brother. Well played.

Well played. All right. Well, if you haven't figured out by now, this is a podcast where we talk about Patriots games from 20 years ago. Well, first, Steve, have you how many times have you picked up shit with your hands? None. None. Is the dog shit yet?

Yeah. They do. Greg is stretching the limits of his knowledge here. Yeah, we have a yard. Just shits in the yard and he's a pooper scooper. All right. Oh, gosh. See, that's what I'd never be able to do with dogs is the shitting.

Yeah. Good thing you want to get a baby because then you can just have the shit all over your hands. Yeah. But it's also it's another human like us, the most evolved species on earth humans are waiting for a dog to shit, following it around and then picking it up with our hands and be like, I got this for you. I mean, let me just take care of this.

It's like, what have we come to that that's acceptable? We should ask Kelly what she thinks about it. I bet she's still doing it. At least if I'm picking up a human shit, it's humans, you know. I feel it's worse. It feels worse to me. I don't know why. Speaking of human shit, this week we're talking about the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Good transition, Andy. I don't know. That's as far as I got, though. Jaguars that much, huh? I guess maybe head coach, rookie head coach, Jack Del Rio. His first game is his first attempt at the playing the Patriots first of six times that he would play the Patriots. Want to guess how many times he would beat them?

Zero. None. None. He did not look and it was never close. The average margin of victory against Jack Del Rio teams is almost three touchdowns. This is 18 points and Brady averaged a 126 quarterback rating. That being said, I thought the Jaguars played pretty competitively in this game. Yeah, because they came in at four and nine.

So this is supposed to be like another trap game like the Texans was a few weeks ago. But it didn't feel that way. And Belichick wasn't talking about it that way. Not that he would, but. Right. Well, this is like a decent roster. Yeah. And I think the Jaguars were kind of hot at the time too.

They came in. Yeah. They started one in seven, right? Yeah. And then they'd started playing better. They had beat the Coulter this season. They had hung with the Titans. I guess they said they were on the two yard line with the Titans at the end of the game,

but couldn't finish that. And last week, the week before this game, they'd beat the hell out of the Texans, 27-0, who gave the Pages run for their money a few weeks ago. Speaking of Titans, I saw this when I was doing my research for this podcast. Yeah. We call the Bucks. The Buccaneers, the Bucks. Hmm.

We call the Jaguars the Jags. What do we call the Titans? The Titans. The Tets. I'm going to. That's my research. That's how I research. It sure is.

You know what? You want to see, you know what I want to know what I do is like, I Google search. I Google Jacksonville Jaguar is funny and Jacksonville Jaguar is sad. What comes up? I feel like you need a third Google search, which is Jacksonville Jaguar is stupid. Stupid. Yeah. I feel like that might kind of broaden the range.

Jacksonville Jaguar is Florida man. They are a very Florida man team, right? So Greg, did you want to talk about these Jacksonville Jaguars a bit? Sure. Yeah. All right. What do you got? Well, I figured like since they're like a relatively new team, you can really kind of

like quickly go over like the history of the franchise. Like the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. So they're a 95 expansion team because I think, you know, we have this perception that the Jags are like, like the Browns in that category of like perennial losers. But I don't think that's their reputation going into this game. I agree.

Because we played them in an AFC championship game. Yes. Which I, we, we played them twice in the playoffs before this, which I forgot. I forgot the second one. Yeah. So they're a 95 expansion team. They have like a decent record their first year, which was like kind of out of the norm. They got Mark Brunel and Tom Coughlin, which I think had a lot to do with some of their

early success. So their second year in the league, they make the AFC championship game lose to the Patriots. That's the year we, we go to the Super Bowl against the Packers. Packers, right. Didn't the, the, because the Panthers were the other expansion team. I think they also made the energy championship game. I think you're right.

In their second season. Both CAT teams. This year. So then they have like a bunch of winning seasons within their first like six or seven years. In 1998, they went 11 and five and they beat the Patriots in the wildcard game. Did you remember that? I had no recollection of this. What year was that?

1998. That was the Robert Edwards year. Oh, right. Right. So I think the path's kind of like backdoor into the playoffs anyways. Yeah. And they had to go to Jacksonville and they lost. That was a peak Carol days.

Yeah. Um, 1992 or 1999, they went 14 and two. Holy shit. Yeah. And this was like, it's a further rabbit hole, but they're divisional game. They were playing the dolphins in Marino's last game. Oh, I remember this. I don't remember this at all.

I remember this game. Not a great way to go out. Marino's last game was so ridiculous. The Jacksonville beat Miami 62 to seven. Yeah. In the playoffs. In the playoffs. It was, I got some notes here on this.

It was 38 to nothing before Dan Marino threw a completed pass to his own team though. He had two interceptions up at that point before he had completed a pass to his own team. It was 38 to nothing. Oh, what was the time left? It was like the second half or middle of the second quarter. Yeah. They, they had Jacksonville had their backup quarterback in the game in the first half. Jay Fiedler, which I had Jay Fiedler.

Yeah. I'd come in for Brunel in the first half. Um, the total yards at the end of the game. Miami had 131 and Jacksonville had 520. Jesus. Never mind like the interception return for touchdown yards. Yeah. That's just offensive yards.

62 to seven. And that was the same week that Bill Belichick was a head coach of the New York Jets. He was only head coach for a day. Oh, no shit. Yeah. So it was the end of that season when Belichick did that whole, oh, I'm going with the Jets back door and back onto the pass. So that was the timeframe. That's when that all went down.

That's amazing. What a great week that was. Yeah. So yeah, that's kind of their history. So they went that, that was their best season 14 and two. And then they've had like three straight sub par years of like six wins, five wins. Coughlin gets fired at the end of last year. And then they come into this year and they draft Byron left, which with the seventh overall pick from the thundering herd.

That's right. From Marshall. That's right. No, he was in the quarterback with Randy Moss. I was Chad Pennington. Also from Marshall. I have some interesting factoids on his Marshall career too. Yes.

Didn't he have some like, was he the one with the broken leg game? Yes. That game is unreal. Yeah. Watch like a 15 minute YouTube thing on it. And watch this game. Watch 15 minutes of fucking Marshall highlights. Love it.

They were, they were playing like Akron, who was like one in seven. The only women's against like a non division 118. You broke his shin in the first quarter. Yeah. He goes like still zero, zero. They, they, he's like, we don't, we can't lose this game. It's fucking Akron. So then he, they tell him to get X-rays.

He has to go to like the hospital. He's like, no, not doing that. So hangs out, comes back in in the third quarter and starts playing with the broken leg. And I'm sure some listeners are familiar with it when the offensive linemen are putting them on their shoulders. Yeah. After every play, he's just like out of a shock at every play, slinging the ball. And then like two of his offense line will come back, grab them under each shoulder and carry them to the next line of scrimmage. He literally could not move.

No. They could not put any weight on his, on his shin. You call him Drew Bledsoe at that point. Um, he's the, the re, one of the main reasons I think he got drafted so high is one because this was when Mack made the decision to start putting their games on Thursday. You know, they always have like shitty Thursday night Mack football games. So that's the first year they were doing that. So there was a 2001 GMA Siebel. I don't know what that stands for.

Marshall versus East Carolina. This is a battle of the Jacksonville quarterbacks. It was David Gerard versus Byron Lefwich. The final score ended up being 64 to 61. Marshall. That's what you got drafted first. Yeah. So that's such a typical like action game too.

Oh yeah. Marshall was down 38 to eight and a half. It ended up, at the time it was the highest scoring ball game in history. So they scored all but eight of their 60 something points in the second half. It's got like 50 some odd points in the one half. Yeah. Holy shit. Nick.

Yeah. Lefwich went 41 of 70 for 576 yards, four throwing touchdowns and one rushing touchdown. Damn. But that's not even the most impressive thing. The most impressive thing is that David Gerard, his team scored 61 points. Yeah. He went 11 of 23 for 161 yards. What?

What were they like an option team? Two interceptions. How the fuck does that even happen? How do you score 61 points? I don't know. They have to be like like a run option team, right? There was like three defensive touchdowns I think. He ran for like two touchdowns or three touchdowns himself but.

God damn. Yeah. Fascinating. So yeah. So Byron Lefwich got draft seventh overall in 2003. Damn. That's high for a Mac quarterback. And Gerard had been.

He was decent. Yeah. And to a point. Yeah. Because this season started off with Bernal, but. Yeah. He got benched, I guess for injury maybe. Yeah.

And then because they were saying because he, by the time he was healthy, they were out of playoff contention. So they said, fuck it. We'll just keep Byron Lefwich in. But I wrote down that he was starting. Byron Lefwich starting over Mark Bernal. And I bet Bernal cried about it. Fucking.

No. We don't like Mark Bernal, Steve. We don't. No. He's kind of a bitch. Remember. He's only cried on TV because of deflate cake. Oh, that was him.

Yeah. How could you lie to me? Yeah. It's pretty bad. I mean, I have no opinion in this way or that of Bernal, but that was embarrassing. Like I, he could be like a perfectly legit guy and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but that was embarrassing. I cried on TV about deflate cake.

Yeah. I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Yeah. He goes right on. Commentators, Andy. Huh? You saving the benefit of that doubt for the commentators. No, I'm not saying the benefit of the doubt for anybody.

You boys better have your head on a swivel. Hmm. All right. Do you think Byron Lefwich is good? Yeah. He does. Okay. Define good.

Yeah. It's interesting. Like if you look at his stats, he wasn't good. No. I mean, for, especially for a first round peg. He also factoring in his coaching as well. He's a coach now. That's true.

He started 50 games. He started 50 games. He had like a decent record. That's also crazy. Given he was on Jacksonville. He has two games under 500. Competing against Tom Brady. Yeah.

And Tom Brady's already got a Super Bowl ring and it's about to get one more this year. And then now he's the coach coaching Tom Brady. Tom Brady's still. Yeah. Yeah. He's now Tom Brady's offensive coordinator, which is ridiculous. That's crazy. Six foot five, 250 pounds is a fucking.

He's a horse. He's a quarterback. Yeah. Um, yeah. So do you have anything else on the Jags you wanted to? Cause I had one thing that you haven't. I have a couple like, uh, some things that might fit better into the, uh, the quiz, the trivia section.

So we'll get to that later. Yeah. Um, Jimmy Smith. That's the only other name I had highlighted. He had a pretty ridiculous career too. Yeah, he did. Yeah. He was kind of like their first real all star.

I felt like Jimmy Smith. Yeah. So it's Fred. Jimmy Smith, Mark. Yeah. Kenan McCardell. Kenan McCardell is right. Yeah.

They're kind of like household names. Yeah. Tony Brackens. Tony. Sally. Yeah. Some great names. Yeah.

Yeah. So these are vintage, like early 2000s NFL names on this team. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. This is the Jags, I remember. What do you say, Steve? What you got on the Jags.

So there's just one thing was, um, a lot has been made of the Miami miracle. The lateral touchdown pass that the, um, dolphins won their game against the Patriots a few years ago. The last time a last play lateral touchdown, uh, or a lateral was a touchdown in the last play of the game was, uh, how the Jags would win their game after this one,

except it happened in ridiculous fashion against them. So what happened was it was the same idea. They were playing the Saints. Jesus. Hang on a second. I've been like this all day. Speaking of fucking weepy sports commentators. Oh, I'm getting emotional.

But yeah. So the Jags were playing the Saints and the Saints were down by seven at the, uh, like one, one last play left, you know, and so they tried the lateral thing and it ended up working and they scored a touchdown. But then, um, I can't remember who their kicker was. Who was the old dude? Uh,

one of the, one of the Anderson's Gary or Morton Carney. Oh yeah. You're right. John Carney. John Carney, uh, missed the extra point and the Jags won 19 to 20. That is one of the craziest things ever. I've seen a highlight before. Yeah.

And I think, yeah, I'll, I'll link it to, I found the hot. It's, it's amazing. It's unbelievable how that happened. Oh yeah. Because like, and the, the play was, it wasn't nearly as clean as the Miami and America was either. Like it was, it was a shout out. Dante stalwart on that play.

Yeah. It was a former, but yeah, former Patriot. Yes. Patriot, I guess. Future Patriot for us, but, uh, uh, we'll put that link in there as well, as well as the, um, yeah. If you haven't seen that play, if you don't know what we're talking about, that is a absolute must watch.

Yeah. Because it's like the, the, for, it's like the Miami miracle, but then they, this is the old PAT too. This is from the two yard line chip shot. It's a Miami miracle followed by the mo and equally as unlikely play. Yeah. Of like Adam Vinitieri pushing an extra point right basically.

Yeah. I'm looking up the numbers right now on 2003, uh, PAT percentages. There's 15 teams. So half the league didn't miss one the entire season. 100%. The lowest percentage is 92.68% and 30 out of the 32 teams were 95% or more. So it's almost a guarantee.

Yeah. You're talking about like missing one to two a year per team. And that was the one. And that's the one. And I don't know if it had, uh, playoff implications for the Saints or not. I think it, I think it kind of did cause they, they were seven and seven going into the game.

So they would have put them in eight and seven, like in the hunt with one game left, but that fuck their playoff chances to lose that way. City relay. Yes. What did they call it? River city relay. River city relay.

That's right. Yes. There was some silly name for it, but there's, there's one like, uh, video out there with the commentator that's like, how could you do that? How could you miss that? I think that's what I found. That guy rules.

Hey, definitely the Saints like radio broadcast. Yeah. Sure. Hey, it's cares. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, speaking of, uh, football though, this game was a defensive

battle again, would you say? Not so much as last week with the dolphins. Yeah. Because there was 12 total points scored in that and six of them were a Teddy Bursky pick six, which I don't know if we mentioned last week, but his last four interceptions, he's returned for touchdown so far. Yeah.

Two this season and two this season before. Yeah. It's crazy. And then he doesn't have another one, but his dresser is career, I believe. I think you're right. Yeah. That's what they call him.

T.D. Bursky. Right. That's a good one. Did you make a joke like that last time? Did Steve make that joke last week or something similar? That sounds like something I would say. I can't have another one.

Teddy won one. Teddy won the Bursky. I don't know. I didn't pull that off the top of my head. That's from like Steve or something. Yeah. I think it was T.D. Bursky.

Yeah. Maybe it was me. What do you call someone who's afraid of Santa Claus? Oh, here we go. What? Claustrophobic. Ugh. That came with myself in the middle of the night.

While the dog was keeping you up. It's working. What's the difference between a car and a golf ball? No. Tiger Woods can drive a golf ball 400 yards. Oh, shit. Descent. He's fine.

He's fine. If it wasn't, we'd probably have to cut that. We're Tiger. Not bad. I don't know. I have a hot take about Tiger, about I don't, I don't know. Like I don't, everybody seems to have just like accepted all the shit he's doing.

Like, oh no, he's fine now. We're back to loving Tiger. I'm not on that. That big one. Did you see the documentary? The HBO? No, I don't think so. It's pretty good.

It's worth watching. Like I'm not going to say it's, he's not to blame, but he's, his child though is all fucked up. I'm not surprised at all. That same guy who wrote the dynasty book did one on Tiger Woods. Oh, that's right. He did, didn't he? Yeah.

He did that before. I have actually a hot takes, hot take Patriots take on this. Oh, okay. You know how like Tiger is like nationally like beloved, right? Everyone loves Tiger. No matter what, they're all rooting for him. The Tiger fanboys. I'm saying that if, if, if Tom Brady didn't play like a regional

sport, like football, he would be in that same category of being beloved by sports fans, if not higher. I agree. Because the reason they hate him is because he beats their team. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just like, that's how sports go when you play these regional sports.

But if it's like Tiger is just an American playing these tournaments, every American get behind him. Right. So I think if Tom Brady played a sport like golf, if football was an international sport, everybody would love him. Every single person on planet Earth would love him. You know, it's kind of like when we talked about when they had whatever that baseball tournament was, like the national baseball thing.

Yeah. And Derek Jeter was on the USA team. And we were like, finally we get to root for him. Yeah. It felt, it felt kind of nice because it's fucking Derek Jeter. I know. I respect his ass, but you couldn't root for him because he Yankee. So yeah, I think, I think you're right.

I think it would be pretty simple. This game was pretty good. How far away are we? Yeah. Don't worry about it. This is what you do when you have a 27-13 week 14 game. It was a bit of a slog, but I think this is the first game this season I have no memory of.

Give it a little square, Andy. Give it a... I'm just looking back. I give it a three just because Troy Brown's back. Yeah. It was bad. It was somewhat entertaining. It was good defense.

Yeah. Wasn't as good as last week. I can throw back Jags. Jags played pretty well too for a bit of it. They hung in there. Which is also cool. Yeah. Yeah.

And the Patriots defense was again nasty. Yeah. That feel was a shit show though. Yes. It would have been better if it was Brunel. Just follow it. What if you... Yeah.

Nostalgia's sake. I just like the Byron left which versus Tom Brady. That struck a chord to me because they're... One's coaching the other one. Yeah. I suppose that's true too. Yeah. Good point.

Yeah. So he's younger than Brady. And he's coaching Brady. Yeah. That's interesting. Tom Brady's older than like... I think it's like a quarter or a third... I think you're coaching younger than...

And you... Let's be honest. What is Byron left which teaching Tom Brady? Yeah. It's the other way around at this point, right? Yeah. Okay. I hear what you're saying but...

I mean that game... What if we try it my way? What if we try it my way? No. Exactly. I've seen you play this. Yeah. So I think I'm going to do it my way and you can learn from me.

That's interesting. I wonder what that dynamic is like. I mean, it takes a certain type of person to be the coach too and like... You know, to be able to like see some of that like innate power that you have in that role like, okay, this is no longer like I'm your boss and you're my player. Like this is like a mutual like let's work together and figure things out, you know? Yeah. How can I make the offense work better for what you need to do?

Yeah. Tell me what I need to do as a coach. I'm almost like working for you. I bet that's what it's like. Yeah. I think so too. All right. And yet they still call it fucking runs up the middle every first day.

So maybe not. Hey. One Super Bowl. It felt like in spite of that. Byron played nine years. I just looked it up. Yeah. He played the head of nine year NFL career.

And then retired, did whatever he did, worked his way all the way up to the coaching ranks to get to OC and then coach Brady. Yeah. Yeah. He retired in 2012. So nine years ago. I remember liking him. Like that was my memory of he's one of those guys that was like, you know, I put up flashy

numbers, but he was like a scrappy, like he's not an easy out. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to have to play when you come and play. Yeah. Almost like a Ben Rothless burger, I thought. Yeah. My favorite dude who had a cannon for an arm and always played smart enough.

Because he ended up playing with the Patriots too. I know we were all stoked about. Who? Fred Taylor. Oh yeah. I feel like a minute. Yeah. Didn't he get hurt really early?

Something like that. I remember playing with him in Madden and he was like an absolute monster because he realized that people age, especially running backs. Madden Super Bowls with Fred Taylor's a Patriot. Whatever year that was. He played for Patriots for two years. Yeah. Probably not many games though.

Nine and 10. Wow. Okay. 13 games total. One start. Yeah. He didn't start much. Four Fred Taylor touchdowns though.

Damn right we will. Speaking of touchdowns though, most of these were Tom Brady touchdown passes. Well, both of the touchdowns I should say. I mean, there could have been a lot more touchdowns too. There is some crazy drops. Yeah. Yeah. There was a lot of missed opportunities on both sides.

Fred Taylor especially dropped a wide open screen pass from the five yard line. That bonked off his face mask because it went through his hands. It was the perfect call against the perfect defense. Yeah. They brought the house, stayed through the quick little slip screen. Yeah. Fred Taylor's wide open perfect ball right in his face and just. He just eats it.

Yeah. And then Larry Senners, the other usual sure handed. Do we decide he was a fullback? Yeah. I don't like Larry Senners. They cut him. I thought he was a center. Good one.

Yeah. Yeah. I think the highlight of the game for me was Troy Brown being back. Returning punts didn't quite look the same, but still like getting the job done. And like his first catch, I think was converting a third and 20. And he got 23 yards on it. He just like hopped up like he's been there.

Like, yeah, that's cool. Fucking typical. And he had a touchdown catch and that was a great touchdown catch too. He was looking at the entire way. Toe tapper. Yep. Bro, you're looking at him the entire way. Beautiful.

Um, what else? Yeah. I mean, what do you, what would you guys give as a watchability score? Greg. I didn't even watch it. Nothing jumped out at me from the highlights or any of that. I've made it particularly enticing besides just like the names of this team. Yeah.

I know I talked about two, but I'm still going to have two Lombardi. Yeah. I like defense. I'll give it three. This, this defense is absolutely outstanding. This is, I think when you talk about old school Patriots football and like the defense first offense does not make mistakes. This is like this stretch is almost what I think of.

This is 2003 stretch. Like the, they kept showing different stats about the defense. Um, let's see. In the first quarter when the, uh, the Jaguars finally got in the red zone, uh, they showed a stat that said New England defense at home. First time the opponent has penetrated New England 10 yard line in last 47 drives, which is fucking batshit. How many games is that?

It must have been, I bet I know the last time. When? William again. It's, uh, I wasn't at home. Oh, at home. Okay. At home. Yeah.

So probably towards the beginning of the season, maybe week one. That's a lot of drives. Right. Um, uh, another one, they haven't allowed a touchdown at home in the last five games, which was 260 minutes of game time. 53 drives, 292 total plays. Well, that got broken at the end. Right.

At the end and garbage time. Yes, it did. Which was really frustrating because it was like a garbage time. Absolute prayer of a throw into the snowstorm lights. And it hung on the camera. You couldn't see it. No, no idea. No idea.

No idea. We ever caught it. Had no idea either. Yeah. It's going to drop right in his life. Like Robert Johnson or someone like that. Kevin Johnson. He's got a known, but some respect on his name.

No name. Kevin. No name. I don't recognize him. He's a no name. Kevin Johnson. He was a Browns guy, right? Dude, Kevin Johnson is like a fucking.

He had a thousand yards season. That's, that's the name that Madden like creates when you're doing a draft. He's like, Oh, we got, we got to create some, some real names. Kevin Johnson. Yeah. Andy Brown back Andrew Brown. He had a thousand yards season. Not good.

That's good. No, not good enough. The total streak was 63 drives. I didn't write down the minutes or whatever, but it was some, it was 63 drives out, allowing the touchdown at home. That's, that's amazing. Yeah. Uh, and then there was another, uh, like halfway through the fourth quarter,

they showed that, uh, the Jaguars averaged 123 yards rushing per game. And today they had 46. And that had been there huge, like, uh, cause they, they had been on a bit of a streak lately. Um, and the most rushing yards in the last five weeks of the season, Fred Taylor was second just behind Clinton Portis. Clinton Portis had 659 yards in the last five weeks because was it last week? The five touchdown game.

Yeah. He had like 200, some rushing yards and five touchdowns. Fred Taylor is 617 yards. He's only like 40 something yards behind him. Fred Taylor is good. Yeah. And he was, he was hot right this point of the season too. Yeah.

So hot right now. So hot right now. Oh, Fred Taylor. So hot right now. Uh, Byron Leff was also hot too because, uh, I'm going to throw in some more right now. Uh, we're going to do a verbal meme. Isn't that what they do on some other podcasts? You know, the, um, part of my day where we started, sure where we started,

uh, where we are now sort of thing. It's all over Twitter. So the way we started was in the first quarter, they showed the stat Byron left, which zero interceptions in the last 99 pass attempts and it went over a hundred as they were talking about it. And then later in the fourth quarter, they showed a stat Byron left,

which two interceptions in last eight pass attempts. So that's a verbal meme. Uh, Drake doing like the, you know, the pointing. Yeah. The hand thing. Yeah. Uh, except instead of Drake, it's actually Byron left, which is mugshot from this.

Cause he's, he's a super baby phase looking guy here. Like a rest mugshot or his, uh, his, uh, picture with the stats. Yeah. His picture here is not like a happy dude. That last, I think he looks like a puppy. That's what he looks like. Oh,

who me? Interception. Andy, the where he was doing the, uh, on BB thing. Yeah. Very close to that. Yeah. It was he, uh,

the Leon celebrating. Yeah. The Leon. You started celebrating five yards too early and got run down from behind or Deshaun Jackson, if you will, or that guy from the Seahawks. What's his name? Which one?

Seahawks. Seahawks. Yeah. It was like this past year. He said he did that too. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh fuck.

Um, the big guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He did that. Yeah. I miss that. Yeah.

My buddy had him in fantasy and he threw a little hissy fit. Shut up, Mark. Hissy fits not uncommon. Oh boy. Yeah, but that was pools. Second interception of the game too. Yeah.

Um, it actually worked out better because the pages got first and goal from the two yard line. Yeah. And we're able to just run into one Smith up the middle three times and finally score a touchdown on the third. And the key to, to,

to celebrating those prematurely is do the ball in front raise high step thing. Don't do the ball down to the side behind like running through like sprinter running through the final thing. No, you're, you're swag is out in front of you. That way if you get caught, you're not going to fumble at least. You're just going to get tackled.

Well, that was the swag corner with Greg Brown. That's all. Yeah. Swag projects. The Dion Sanders, he used to do the swag out front, you know, that's true. Yeah.

Tyler swag out front. See, he only swagged when he got in there. Yeah. That's what that's true. He did. Swagging the floor. Yeah.

It's swagging all over that floor. Oh my God. But did you guys know it snowed in this game? Saw that because speaking, speaking of segments, this is the time for me to shit on the commentators. I don't think they'd ever seen snow before. So maybe we'll, we'll chalk it up to that,

but they would not stop talking about how cold it was. And they, like, especially towards the end of the game, they just got obsessed about it. As soon as it started snowing, you could see the snow on the field. Like, look,

there's this guy on the sideline wearing shorts. And then they cut to a clip of Bill Belichick pregame in shorts. Like the weather was 21 degrees. And, but we've got, we've got heaters and, and they had like in the little studio, there was like the TV behind them that they would show stats on it.

It had like fire in it. Like, oh, we're standing next to this, but it's not warming us up. The Natalie clad Bill Belichick. They did on prime time. I love Berman. I just love Berman so much. Just little things like that.

The Natalie clad Bill Belichick. It's perfect. Yeah. The alliteration is so on point. It's just rolls off the top. And it paints a picture too. One complaint. And I think that I'm building a case against Phil here.

Oh, okay. Not a case for me, a case for Armin Cotayin. Oh yeah. In some sort of workplace sexual harassment thing. Oh. Because it's number two. He's talking about his feet.

And one Monday night game or something like that. It was, it was a very awkward foot thing. They're worse. Yeah, there was something, wasn't it? It was a foot or hand thing, maybe. Yeah, that was something. I don't even want to relive that and look that up, but it's out there somewhere.

I'll find it. On this one, they're like, Oh, Armin, you look good with a little snow on you. You little snowman. He's a little snow slide. But then, and then like at one point around that same time, they're like, Huh? They cut to him and he didn't have much snow.

I'm like, Oh, he's got a, a like a surprisingly little amount of snow on him. What are you like hiding him under something guys? Oh yeah. Armin, you getting wet? Yeah. Naughty little bitch. And then they're back from there.

They cut to build ballot check who's just like in his hoodie and the whole front of him just covered in snow. Just stand there like a miserable. Like, you know, he knows he can wear more clothing. Right. He doesn't. Yeah. He's still going to look miserable.

Exactly. Whatever the fuck you want on build ballot check, he's still going to look miserable. Well, isn't the story that like he wanted to wear a suit on the sidelines to, because that's how like old school coaches used to do it. They used to like wear like a full suit. So you want to do that.

And the NFL for whatever, I think for licensing reasons, because Reebok doesn't make a fucking suit. Like, no, you have to wear Reebok shit. He's like, Okay, fine. I'll wear this. I'm not going to give a shit. I'll cut the fucking sleeves off. And it's like, it's supposed to be like thumbing his nose at the

NFL or something. See, I just got the impression that he just did not give a shit in one way or the other. I mean, you've seen him like dressed like in public and he's not wearing a suit and tie there. Yeah. He's just like the definition of disheveled. He dresses like our father does.

Yeah. If Mick Brown could wear that fucking button up turtle shirt or whatever frogs or whatever the fuck it was all over. Yeah, that frog shirt rules. Yeah. The America flag shirt also rules. Yeah. And the fact that he can't wear a ball cap, but he does anyway.

The Jerry Garcia sweatshirt that he wears in like June and July. Yeah. Oh, just constantly. The Christmas one. Yeah. Christmas Jerry Garcia sweatshirt. Just the mullet. No, he doesn't.

Yeah. Well, he's growing on a pony missing front tooth. Oh my God. Yeah. That was bad. Yeah. All right. So the missing front tooth era was an era and Mick Brown kind of

has that Belichick scowl. I think it's around the mouth. They look very similar. They look very similar. Yeah, they do. So we got to get that. That's OG hipster. Right.

Like hipsters like claim that they don't like care what they look like. No, you do care. You just care in a different way. Yes. Mick Brown, Bill Belichick. They're real hipsters. Literally do not care.

Truly do not give a shit what they look like. Yeah. I don't know. I like the spite angle better. I feel like him spiting Roger Goodell. It feels good, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

So who knows? Once we get him on the pod, we'll ask him. Oh, yeah. Oh, we've got a whole bunch of hard hitting questions to ask Bill Belichick. Mm hmm. All right. Speaking of who's back. We all know Troy Brown's back, but also huge news.

Ken Walter. My boy's back. Ken Walter. Back. Back. Yeah. And punting, not punting like booty. I wrote down.

Yeah. For some reason. I'm getting cut and then re signed again. Turned him into a decent punter. Yeah. Average 40 yards of punt on four puns. Did you hear how the crowd cheered him? They gave us there to go on the first pun.

Yeah. Yeah. Because it went more than 30 yards. That's being a good fan there. Yep. Yeah. And then like what's going on. Yeah.

And then one of the puns he pinned at the four yard line. Yeah. Who is this guy? Because I don't think it's Ken Walter. And then he had his next point was the typical really bad punt that died halfway, but then dribbled another like 30 yards. Yeah. We dribbled that one inside the 20.

Yeah. So that still counts in the stats boys. That's classic Walter though. So he's back. And Vinitari looked a lot less shaky on his field goals because Ken Walter is holding again. So that was nice to see. He reminds me of like what Flanders would look like in real life.

I don't know his personality at all, but I don't know. Like just the name being bland and being just like generic looking dude. Ken Walter is also another Madden recreated name. Yeah. And the guy that you like kind of remember, but I don't know. Was he good? Who knows? It's just just a dude that was on the roster.

I just tried to Google Ken Walters to see if we could find him to like reach out to him on Twitter or something. He's not on the front page of Google. There's other Ken Walters. That's 200 plus Ken Walters profiles on LinkedIn. It's Walter. Andy. That's why.

Is it? Yeah. I just Google search. I mean, I got millions of pictures. First hit Ken Walter Wikipedia. You play for the Panthers. Good thing we have you to stat check, Greg. I know.

Yeah. Someone's got to keep us honest around here. Look at this. People also searched for Mark Edwards, JR Redmond, Bethel Johnson and Rache Caldwell. Whoa. That's rarefied air right there. It's called classification there. Edwards is in this game, right?

Yeah. So is Chris Fuamatu Mahfala. Wait. Fuamatu is in this game? Yeah. He won bad Mahfala. Yeah. He's in Jacksonville.

Yeah. I saw that Edwards was in this game. Wait. No, that's Troy Edwards. No, Mark Edwards. No, it's Mark. Yeah. Oh, it is Mark.

The fullback who was like the Patriots top weapon like two years ago. Four catches 41 yards. 13. I know. Who knew? Mark Edwards. He's a, he's a super like MAGA guy now though. Shame.

I don't care. I, uh, there's a lot of people that are either former Patriots or future Patriots. Right. Yeah. Fred Taylor. Yeah. Mark Edwards, Kyle Brady. Yeah.

Yeah. There is at least one Brady to Brady touchdown. I believe it was no seven against the. Okay. I guess it's. Yeah. Jimmy Smith feels like he could be a Patriot. Yeah.

Yeah. Jack Del Rio. He was a linebacker for 11 years. Where did he play? Ohio State. What? I don't know. Look it up.

I bet he's Ohio State guy. Jack Del Rio. USC. Trader. JDR. As a player. What is this? Come on.

Show me him as a player. Jack Del Rio. Yeah. I went to USC. Do you see his little turtleneck set up in this game? Yeah. It's all respect for him. I don't know how, how many years he.

Yeah. They call him and he's like, oh, look, he's, he's braving the winter weather. I'm like, it's not a turtleneck. You're not braving anything in a turtleneck. Oh, yeah. He's got some turtleneck hate going on. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Why are you going to turtleneck? You want to put on? No, but. You Steve Jobs. Yeah. Some sort of obscure Patriots player that we didn't even know you had a Jersey. He turned into a turtleneck.

I'm Elizabeth Holmes, bro. That's a deep cut. Deep cut. But. I'm flinkable here. Yeah. I wouldn't use turtleneck, lady. That would turn out to be a fraud and phony.

I'm not a turtleneck. I'm not a turtleneck. I'm not a turtleneck. I'm not a turtleneck. I'm not a turtleneck. I'm not a turtleneck. I'm not a turtleneck. I'm not a turtleneck.

I'm not going to be a fraud and phony. That's me. Yeah. It's perfect. Self probably burn. That makes sense. All right. Anything else in this game?

I think I've covered some trivia. Trivia. Oh yeah, too. Trivia. Okay. This is not going to be a Patriots. Relate trivia, but it's going to be a Jacksonville related trivia.

Oh good. Cause we know all about them. Well. You were a football fan. Can you name the top five quarterbacks for Jacksonville in terms of yards? Mark Brunel. Mark Brunel is number one.

Okay. Left which is number four. Oh shit. Who was the only type? Garard. Garard is number three. Wow. So I'll do it.

Left. All right. All right. This is yards thrown in Jacksonville. Not okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah.

Who is the one that? Bortles. Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles is number two. So we're missing number five. You're missing number five. Gardner. Gardner and you is number six.

He's played like four games. I just hope. I hope you get number seven. Take it to number seven is how he said. Jay Fieler. Jay Fieler is 15. Oh my goodness. I don't even need a time frame for number five.

Okay. Number five played from 2012 to 2017. Oh, fuck. What was his name? I know who he is because we beat him like 51 to like seven or something that year. Oh, he was a high draft pick too. Right.

I like, I think you're thinking of number seven. Okay. Give me number seven. I need it. Number seven is the infamous Blaine Gabbard. Blaine Gabbard. Blaine Gabbard is seven dollars. Seven.

Wow. How many yards does he have at number seven? A total of 4,357 yards. I'm ready to throw for more yards of the season. Oh, okay. Number, number 12 is Nick Foles. What? He played four games last year.

He's number 736 yards. That's tough. I'll give you number five because I don't think you're going to get it. It's a deep cut. Chad Hennie. Oh, yes. I should have got that one.

Yes. He was back in the limelight these days. Winning playoff games. Like five years in Jacksonville. Damn. Yeah. I remember him. How about Heyman Drew Henson mixed up?

Oh, Drew Henson. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. Kind of similar time frame. So from that, I started thinking like, where does like, how does Brady compare to these numbers? In Jacksonville?

So I think my question to you, because I think this is where this is headed. How many of the top 10 lists combined does it take to get to Tom Brady's total? Right. So that's where I started. Okay. So Brunel actually has like a decent number of yards.

Okay. That makes sense. So it takes a little, it's like the top seven. I think you'll get to like Brady. The touchdowns. Touchdowns are a different story. Oh no. Believe it or not.

Tom Brady has more passing touchdowns than the entire Jacksonville franchise. Tom Brady has 581 career touchdowns. Yeah. Jacksonville quarterbacks in general. 520 touchdowns. So it's not even close. 61 more touchdowns.

Oh my God. And then you go, well, what about interceptions? Wait, Tom Brady's played a long time. Yes. Tom Brady has 191 career interceptions. Yes. Jacksonville quarterbacks, 358. Oh, double.

I'm pretty sure Tom Brady also has more playoff touchdown passes for Tampa Bay than every other Tampa Bay quarterback. That makes sense. Combined. Except Tampa Bay was around since like how long ago? The 70s?

80s? See all the, all the playoff stats are going to make sense. Yeah. But this team was a 95 expansion team. They got like a six year head start on Tom Brady. They've been able to choose whoever they want to do it. Six, a six year head start with like first overall picks, like galore.

Yeah. Unbelievable. But yeah. It's ridiculous. Does he have more than one Panthers? Shout out, Chad. If he beats the Panthers and the Jags, then it makes the Jags look a little less,

but the Panthers are also doing way better than it makes. That's true. Yeah. I wonder if the Panthers, yeah. Yeah. I wonder what the touchdown totals are for every team and where Brady ranks just on that list in general. More to how many team,

because I imagine he's probably throwing more touchdowns in the Texans too. Yeah. Just because they're the most recent, but I don't know. That's, Panthers got like, they had big years in Cam and they made the Super Bowl with, you know. Yep.

This year. Yeah. With Jake DeLome who threw a bunch of touchdowns. I would think the Panthers got to be above Brady's career. Or at least closer. It's also ridiculous that we're comparing an entire franchise. Yeah. Tom Brady,

it was, I mean, played for 20 fucking years, but still God damn. And just for the record, Tom Brady's 500 and what do you say, 81 touchdowns that's just with the Patriots. He's thrown 664 total. Wait, what? Tom Brady's thrown 664 touchdown passes in his career.

I don't know if you're not in good and playoffs or what? Yeah. Andy stat checking the stat checker. Where you going from football reference? No, I have my own website for this. Oh, Patriots Dynasty info. No, it's a new one. It's just Tom Brady's touchdowns.

Oh, Tom Brady touchdown website. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. You know, as you do. I needed something to get me through the, the playoffs this year. And that was it.

His touchdown for the most air yards where the, the most common air yards is 10 for him. He's thrown 45 touchdowns of 10 air yards. Imagine that. Hi. Hello. Hi, Kelly. I can't hear you.

So I don't know. Hi. Whatever Greg is saying. What do you think of the Jacksonville Jaguar? Your dinner is going to be delicious. Nailed it. Thanks, Kelly. Yeah.

All right. Best and worst. Steven. Greg's got to eat dinner. Yeah. So Greg, you go first before you. Okay. So eating on fucking audio because that's what we need.

Oh, can you guys go first? Sure. My, oh, here's my best. I will share my screen so you can all hear it. Tom Brady. Definitely had a, an Omaha call. If you listen closely. Brady making adjustments at the line of screaming.

Do you hear it? Yeah. You're right. So I don't know if he's copying a, a certain other quarterback or if he's making fun of it. Cause I feel like that's what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. A certain other quarterback or if he's making fun of it. Cause I feel like that'd be something he would do. So that's, I don't know, is that a best or worst? I don't know. Oh, one of my best was a William McGinnis played out of his mind and he almost had these really amazing interception where he

jumped like back against the way he was moving and almost snagged like two handed. There's like ridiculous like a fucking cannon throw of a Byron left, which he had a script sack to that. Just got recovered by the team. He did. Yeah. He was, he was disruptive and he had some like play where he blew

up the run and the commentators couldn't get over the fact that Ted Washington was also on the field who like eventually made the tackle because of William McGinnis disrupting the entire play all by himself. But yeah, it was a good game for the defense again, who just like aren't allowing anything and eventually the offense, I think will probably come into their own, but they don't even need to because this Patriots is, this Patriots team isn't allowing

any fucking any scores and yards and anything at this point in the season. Cause they're all healthy again, which is another thing we haven't really touched on. Yeah. I'm getting everybody back. Yeah. Although, um, Deon branch first play from scrimmage, uh, is a

really nice long catch on the sideline hurts himself and is out for the rest of the game. You don't see him again. Yeah. I can get your break. Yeah. Uh, and my worst is probably Jack Del Rio's turtleneck. Hates turtlenecks.

Yeah. Fuck it. Fucking turtlenecks. I mean, it's fucking make up your mind. Either wear like a, like a full thing or not like wear a T-shirt. How do you feel about scars? I mean, it's kind of like a removable turtleneck. Scars are fine.

Cause they are what they are. Like a turtleneck's like, you know, do I want to be like a full thing or what about collars? Not a huge fan of collars, but I wear them cause I have to. I have a short sleeve turtleneck. That's, that's a crime against humanity. I'm pretty sure it's like a shirt sleeve turtleneck wicking material.

I have a short sleeve hoodie. Well, that's because you're Bill Belichick. It's legit a Bill Belichick hoodie. Yeah. Branded Patriots. Yes. The one with the little BB on it. They like, they took Bill Belichick's protest and turned it into an

even more lucrative revenue stream. They did. Yeah. It's nice. Look at sleeves cut off and they can save on materials. It's wicked. Nice. Yeah.

But mine has sleeves. I actually wear it a lot cause like it's nice to keep like your neck more warm, but like if you're like cooking or like doing woodworking, you don't want your sleeves all up in your shit. It's true. Sleeves do get in the way. Yeah. Can you discover the world of vests yet, Greg?

No. Vests are my worst. Just decide where you want to be. Fucking turtlenecks. Well, there's some comedy talking about how it feels like if you're wearing a turtleneck and a backpack, it feels like a weak midget is trying to strangle you all day. I don't know.

I'm going to start with my worst. Okay. You get the bad out of the way early. Like the worst play was Antoine Smith fumble inside the 10-year line. That was bad. Yeah. His first fumble in like 40 games or something though.

But then like Willie almost gets that strip sack. Yeah. Interception by Tywin Pool, touchdown by Troy Brown. So it all, the defense build them out. Yes. It was a bad, bad fumble. It wasn't great. And then just like bigger picture that just speaks to the whole thing.

Like when we said a couple of times, I cannot believe in Patriots win. Super Bowl is here because there's some fundamental flaws. That one fumbling not really is it. It's penalties. Yeah. They went a whole half without a penalty. And I was like, wow, a whole half, no penalties. And they get one like the first fucking play of the second half.

Yeah. And it was like a, it was like a, like a roughing penalty after the play was over. Like jumping on the pile or some bullshit. And then like a no doubter too. Yeah. It wasn't even like a. Matt Light of all people. Yes.

Yeah. And that pushing them out of field goal range is like third and 20 something. And you're not going to recover from that. And then they showed another stat in the speaks to the defense, you know, really propped up the offense of the worst red zone percentage in the NFL. We've only got much better in this game. They have the worst red zone offense in the whole league. It's cause they can't run the ball because Antoine Smith is like basically a horse

with a broken leg at this point. 17 for 39. And that is, and that is really fucking bad. Yeah. But this is why like to Steve's point has been saying all season, this is why they go out and get a running back who can finish drives. Right. But the question is, why does he still get carries?

Why does he have 17 carries? We have nobody else. And it feels so shit that like it really. He's got to be better. And he actually, well, he played okay in this game. He had some decent runs. And then as soon as you fumble, you never saw him again. Yeah.

But they also called like a third like on that's right after they showed that stat, they called the third and inches Antoine's fresh play. And I was like, yeah, what are you doing? Yeah, we all know that's not going to work. Of course he's not going to do it. And then kick out a 22 yard field goal. Yeah. And he had, they had, they called a draw play to him and he gained like 15,

16 yards on it. So I was thinking we're dumb enough to give the ball to Antoine Smith. Especially not on a draw. But let's talk about bests. Yeah. Give me some bests. My bests involved the officials. Oh, not, not their good or bad officiating of the game.

I think this is, this is a high thing. It will be on the website because I, I'm sure to snag this. But before that, I noticed this and I think we all noticed this at some point, but it's good to see that it really started very early. Tom Brady gets in every single ref huddle. And they're like, he's like one of the refs. Yeah. Tom, this is what we're doing.

He's like, okay, okay. You know, no, no, come on. What are you talking about? Yeah. I didn't see that. I didn't see that. I saw it slightly differently guys. Yeah.

And it's crazy to see that. Like he's been doing that for his whole career. Now. Yeah. Anytime the rest huddle up. He's like, what's up? Yeah, he does. He just wants to know what the call is going to be so he can prepare.

And then the highlight you're talking about on that Tyrone pool, celebrating too early play. The reason he started celebrating is because he is looking out his right eye at left, which he's like a, you know, pretty big and fast. Yeah. How big was he, Greg? How big was Byron left? Which 65 to 50.

Yeah. And I'm like, he just saw that pic. Like he got it kind of run into as a pylon. Yeah. And I think left bridge had the angle. It would have been pretty close. Referee. He's trucking along.

Head referee. Yeah. Throws the perfect block. Yeah. By accident. Oh yeah. That was shut him down. They tripped him up with his feet.

Yeah. And left which like stands on him. And then like the end of the clip is just a ref laying on his back as if he's just fucking dead. He just got, he got. I thought that almost looked intentional. Oh, the ref, the ref had no idea. I mean, left which, I don't know.

I saw the guy. Yeah. Maybe. He like stampeded him. It was like fucking Lion King. Shit. I mean, it's from Marshall. Yeah.

Coming through. That's thundering hurt on him. Just get him underfoot. Yeah. No, that was, it was a man. And then I don't know if you've not noticed this, Steve, but after the play, like after they got him on his back, I think it was fourth.

Oh no, because the page had the ball. So, but you, they showed Teddy Bruce, you walking over him and holding a finger. And you can tell he's like, how many fingers am I holding up? You okay? Can you still see? Yeah. Yeah.

That's about to rub it like heads off. I was wondering what that. I saw him do it. I was like, I didn't get it. Yeah. No, it took me a second. I was like, what is he? Oh, all right.

That's the ref. They just got his ass trucked. Yeah. That's the ref. Yeah. That's a good one. Good one. All right.

Can I do mine? Yes, please. Okay. The, my best is going to be Steve's dog. Goss. Congratulations, Steve. I'm very happy for you. You know, I see that Greg's never coming back on the.

This is just a setup for his worst. No, it's not. No, it's not. Yeah. I'm happy for you. You're excited. You got a dog. Congratulations.

Wow. My worst. Is the over under on this game. Suck it, Steve. Okay. The over under going into this game was 33 with snow in the. Yeah. 25.

I've never seen a modern day NFL over under at 33. I mean, they barely got the over. No, it was a little bit. Okay. It smashed the over. All right. Well, the, the, the last week's game was 35. It was 12 nothing.

Yeah. Different times, man. Different times. Yeah. And both these defenses were hot. I'm a little surprised it went over, to be honest. Can't you filter your website by over under Andy's? It should be able to.

Is that what you're doing right now? Can you guys hear me? My best is just sandwich. Kelly just brought me. But my worst. My worst is great. Kelly's timing on dinners. We recorded 7pm every Thursday.

Every Thursday. What time's dinner served? She's given to me at 8 o'clock. We used dinner at 8 o'clock. Right. There was one other Patriots game with a lower over under than this game. Really? Well, how did you figure this out?

Andy's website. You can filter by over under. Oh, sweet. Website, Andy. What is it called? We have in 2000 Cleveland Browns. On your fucking hat. It was 19 to 11.

We lost to the Browns. And the over under was 32. There it was. And it was under. Yeah. Wow. The under head. Wait, which season was that?

2000. So this is pretty remarkable that an over under would be 33. Yes. What week was that, Steve? Week 11. All right. So because I think I remember reading a story about how in 2000, because the cap had been so mismanaged by Pete Carroll, probably,

the Patriots didn't have enough money to sign a full 53 players to the roster. So they actually play with like 50 guys on the team at the end of that season. And they're basically just like, we just want guys who want to be here at this point. Like they're doing it to prove a point as well as having no money. So I'm wondering if that contributed to an over under 32 and then hitting the under. Because that would be about that same time, I think. Yeah. All right.

I wish I got to go to Shaper Stadium. Yeah. Apparently I did once, but I was an infant and my grandmother took me back to the car and watched a guy pee in the game. That was the game where they were passing on. Yes. Spanking. I was talking about that.

Yeah. Yeah. So I've been dating with her. Exactly. Yeah. I'll have to link that in the show notes too. If you want to listen to Mama Brown talk about Shaper Stadium and the blow-up dolls that were being passed around.

Now there's kind of the dark times of the Patriots era, or the Patriots as a franchise. It's been tough for our family, but then Greg was born. It all turned around. No. Why do you even further down? All right. So what is next week, gentlemen?

Wednesday, Thursday. Tuesday? There will be those days next week. You are correct. Yes. I fucking knew it, Andy. I fucking knew it. You know what?

It's the same these days. This is true. How are you guys hanging in there with COVID? You good? Yeah. I guess got a new dog. That's true. Yeah.

That's probably a good one. Oh, yeah. I just got this new printer. Have you printed anything on it yet? Yeah. Very distracting. I've successfully completed one printed page and then it shit the bed again. And you've had it for how long?

Over a week now. Yeah. You'll get there. If I get there, I mean, you'll throw that one away. Oh, you know what? I should. Yeah. I'll mail you my baseball bat.

Yeah. I'm going to do that. That office space. Yeah. Exactly. And then I'll tell you which one you should really buy. All right. Next week, we are traveling to New Jersey.

New Jersey. New Jersey. The Netherlands. Yeah. To play the New York. I can't even call them New York football giants because they're really cool. Yeah.

Yeah. So next week will be fucked the Jets week. Which is exciting. I love those weeks. Yeah. James Chadwick Pennington. We'll see. Chadwick.

Chadwick. Chadwick. The third. The third. Yes. The seventh. All right. But yeah, until then, we will see you later.

Later. Later.