Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2003 Week 3: Patriots vs Jets

Episode Date: November 24, 2020

The Patriots have recovered from their opening day shellacking, but now the shorthanded Patriots have to deal with the Jets.Highlights:If you want to watch the game, or see the highlights, here's the Game LinkGreg does a deep dive on fat guys of the NFLAnd ends up talking about the Manute Bol vs Refrigerator Perry boxing matchBelichick says Asante Samuel is "built like a soccer player." What does that mean? We ask our resident soccer playerThe brothers compare this 2003 roster to comparable players in today's gameThe boys prove why they should stick to Patriots history podcasts by badly predicting the current seasonRosevelt Colvin actually does own a cupcake shop. Seriously.And don't forget that we have the Dynasty Hotline if you want to drop us a line! Text or leave a voicemail at [phone]Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Patriots' Dynasty podcast. I'm your host, Andy Brown, with me are the beautiful brothers. We are all, for some reason, dressed the same today. There are baby blue shirts in our backwards. It's just brother intuition. I guess I wouldn't even call each other for this. It just happened. Do you love it when that happens? Colin Cowherd would be pissed off.

Why? Because we're all matching? No, because he hates people that wear their hat backwards. That's right. Yeah. He's calling out Carson Wentz saying he's immature for wearing his hat backwards at a press conference. How dare he? You never see Kim Newton wear a backwards hat. That's for sure. That is that's probably true. I can't tell if the top hats backwards or forwards. The loophole baby. So was the argument that the hat was backwards or that he had a hat on at all? Like if you wore it forwards, would that have been okay? Yeah. It's the backwards that got a B in his bonnet. Oh, man. That's a shame. That's a shame. Poor Colin Cowherd, my poor guy. Speaking of cow herding. No, no, I couldn't do it. I couldn't fit that in.

This week is 2003 week three. We're getting along in the 2003 season. It's been kind of an enjoyable, more enjoyable than last season. I think I realize why it's because there's a payoff at the end of this season. So the wins are fun to watch and the losses don't matter as much because you know how it ends. Yeah, none of those. Oh man, if you only won this game then. Exactly, exactly. But yeah, this is the Jets coming to town. The 0 and 2 New York Jets struggling on the season. We've kind of thought these Jets aren't much different than in the past. Well, this recovered in the Chad Pennington deep dive, right? Because he must have got hurt in that fourth preseason game. So like three games ago. Right. And they're back to the well with Vinny.

Exactly. That's what I was going to say. The only real difference from the last time we saw them was the starting quarterback is back to Vinny Testavarty. Vinny Greenhead? Greenhead. Old Greenhead himself. Green Testicle. And what a difference it makes. Final score. Indeed. Final score, 23-16, something like that. Yeah, it wasn't even that close, I feel like. It wasn't that far. What do you think, Greg, since you watched the whole thing? I did not watch this one. I give it a two out of six. All right. There wasn't much noteworthy. I don't know. These Jets games, it's always the same roster. The Bills, you got the Bloodsauce stuff.

The Dolphins, I guess, they're kind of into the Jets. They just bore me in this generation. They're not terrible, but they're not good. They're just kind of like, eh. I'm going to give it a three Super Bowl trophies and an AOC championship. Okay. Because while I agree with you, Greg, not a lot going on in this game, you got to bump it up one trophy just because you're beating the Jets. I knew that's where you're headed with that. Yeah, I was going to give it three because it's beating the Jets, but I kind of do it by how many highlights I can pull from a game when I'm doing it. And so I can put them on the website. And I think there were four total

highlights in this entire game. And I think there were like two of them were in the first quarter and the other two were in the fourth quarter. Like it was not. There was a big gap in the middle that was just borderline and watchable. As we discussed before we started recording, though, Andy, you missed the good lowlights. Yeah, I don't add other teams highlights to a Patriots website. It feels like it's not their highlights. This is the stuff the Patriots don't want us to see. Right? This is the stuff they're ashamed of. Are you censoring? Well, Greg, I don't know if you saw this player now, but the fake field goal passed to Kevin Mawai, the center. Yeah, Kevin Mawai. All right, we're just going to get into this. We're not

going to talk about the Jets. Great. Yeah. So who do you want to talk about the Jets, Andy? Yeah, we just said how shitty they are. I have a trivia question for you. Okay. Since in honor of Vinny Testaverde being back. Vinny Greenhead. Tom Brady, just this week, was named NFC Player of the Month, right? Today, maybe actually yesterday, something like that. And he became the fourth QB to win it in both the AFC and the NFC. Can you name the other three? Vinny Testaverde. Yeah, it's one of them. Yeah. He did it three separate times once with the Bucks in 1999. No, that was one of my guesses, but no. Bucks, Browns, and Jets was Vinny Testaverde. Drew Brees. No.

McNabb. Is it like this generation guys? They're names you've heard of, but they're kind of earlier than this. The other two. That's a deep. That's a deep. I wasn't born. Yeah, you've seen both of them play. One is an announcer on the radio, I think. Phil Sims. No. Chris Collinsworth. He played for the Bengals. He started in the Bengals. Carson Palmer. And then went to the Jets and then went to the Cardinals. Just said, we're not going to. Yeah. Umar Asaiasen. I never would have got that in a million years. Yeah. All right. And the other one's Warren Moon.

Also never would have got that. Useless. Useless. That's so obscure. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Cool trivia question, Andy. I feel like the guy who runs Bar Trivia and is asking like differential equation shit. Bar Trivia people are the worst. My fall, you boys are fucking idiots. Big dick dummies up in here. Jesus. All right. Fine. Speaking of big dick dummies, let's talk about this field goal. Fake field goal. It was what, 6-3? 6-3? 6-3 Pats. No, we're in the second corner now. Pats had just kicked the field goal.

Actually, the Pats had driven down inside the Jets five yard line twice on their first two drives and settled for field goals on both of them. So that's cool because Brady kept getting sacked on third down too, which is great. It's Pats up 6-3 and the Jets drive two. They're in New England like 20 yard line. And instead of kicking the field goal to tie it, they attempt a fake field goal where they snap it to the punter who throws it to their starting center, who for some reason was lined up on the wing on this play instead of like, I don't know, a tight end or something like that. Kevin Y hits him in the hands. Not a perfect pass. He's also double covered, by the way. I don't know if you noticed that. Yeah. By Teddy Boruski. And Mike Vrabel, I believe. Yeah.

Yeah. So tightly covered, throws into double coverage and incomplete. And no, I'm not going to put that on a website. My website is better than that. I just want to laugh at the Jets, dude. Did you hear her meds on the website? Yeah. That's because it was a play that the Patriots made. It was a fumble recovery that they returned for a touchdown. Why would you not put that on there? This is just a bumbling circus show. The but fumble has the word bum in it. Did you hear her medwards talking about it? No. Yeah. They interviewed him after the game and they asked him. He actually had a pretty good response. He's like, he's basically like,

yeah, we suck. But like, why not? Why not try shit? You know, like, like, I'm not going to go out there and just play like boring football and lose every game. He's like, I'm going to do things that are different to try and win games. He literally almost said that you play to win the game in like different words. He said basically that. So he's sticking to his guns. Yeah, I kind of respect it. Like if I was supporting a shitty team, I'd be like, let's try a fake. So let's do something because this flow is just watching bad boring football. Fuck that. Yeah. I mean, the Browns always have fun teams, right? Well, what year was that you play to win the game? Like a viral clip of him. That's probably I think it

was like 2000. It was in this general timeframe. I think we looked up before and decided that. Oh, I found an oral history of memorable moments. 2002, I think. So it was the season before then, yeah. October there, just 2002. So he's just competing himself. Just made the playoffs in 2002. They did. And October would be playoffs, speaking of things. Well, that was 2001, I believe, that quote, because that was when Peyton Manning couldn't stop throwing interceptions. Yeah. playoffs. It was over when a game. The golden age of hilarious. Quotable head coaches. I'm a man. I'm 40. Come at me. He's still kicking around. Is it? Yeah. Still doing the college circuit. He got he's I think he's still at Oklahoma State. Oh, god damn. I think he got in trouble recently

for some some insensitive things. If you can imagine that. I mean, to bring it back to Herm Edwards play calling there on that fake, it makes sense considering Kevin Y never, ever caught a pass ever in his NFL career. So yeah, I feel like it was one of those things where like the idea behind it was good. It was just the execution was kind of hot garbage. Yeah, it doesn't make sense on like those rules. Like if you have a backup QB as your holder, OK, or if you have a tight end out there, like, you know, Patriots used to have basically in that exact spot blocking for field goals. So that I mean, that seems to make a bit more sense. And like we've thrown it to offensive linemen like then that Ravens game in the playoffs.

Yeah. And they that ineligible receiver guy to trick them. But he was wide open, you know, like literally zero people were covering him, not our two best coverage linebackers. Right. Yeah. I mean, there wasn't a whole lot of misdirection happening. But it didn't really matter because this second quarter was kind of a hot mess. Patriots got that that I felt like while I've been watching these first three games, knowing what's coming ahead and like we're going to see one more loss in the next like 20 something episodes. This does not look like a team that's about to reel off a bunch of wins. No, they're dropping like flies. They're getting hurt. Yeah, because like there's a ton of injuries already. Even in this game,

Roosevelt Colvin is out for the season with like he had that hip injury, which I completely forgotten about until they mentioned it in this game. Well, he had some sort of fracture in his hip or something like that. And they were like super cagey about it. And it just turned out like he couldn't play the rest of the season. And he was their big off season signing. And then in this game, Ted Washington goes down, which with a leg injury and the the commentators, we're not even going to talk about who it was because I get all riled up. We're talking about how actually, no, it was the sideline. It was Leslie on the sideline talking about how because he was down, the guys are replacing him were both 70 pounds lighter than he was.

Is that nose tackle guy? Because Ted Washington weighed in at 360 pounds. And the guys replacing him were a lightweight, a Svelte 290. I have I have a lot of notes on this. Okay, this is not expected you to have your notes. Let's do it. Yeah. Well, this is where it started was good old Mount Washington, aka the Washington Monument at six foot five. He went up to at least 375 during his playing day. So he's like, I can say he's serious about 365. And they actually asked Matt, chat him about it. Yeah. And chat him at a quote. Once you get to that weight, you stop stepping on the scale.

Yeah, like, what is he truly? And it's like, no one really knows, but it's a fuck about you know. So how many how many C's would you put in thick for Ted Washington when describing him? I mean, he is like seven or eight, right? Yeah, I mean, he is. He's like, legendarily thick. But that got me thinking like, what are the heaviest players that have ever played? So I went down. We keep you around. Yeah. Went down that rabbit hole. I am interested to hear where this leads. Yeah. So there's a few. Nate Newton played for the Cowboys. We're Super Bowl teams. He won three Super Bowl six pro balls. He was six, three, four hundred and one pounds.

Wow. At six, three, which is pretty impressive. Yeah. His nickname was the kitchen because he was that much bigger than the fridge. There's nothing better than like fat football names. And I'll get to the fridge. But the heaviest player ever to play was Aaron Gibson. Let us guess how heavy he was. Okay. Steve, what's your guess? What a quarter. Oh, I was going to guess. I'm going to say 430. He was 410 pounds. But he played at 440 in high school. In high school. So he dropped weight to make the offensive lineman. Yeah, 6, 6, 410. Damn. So yeah, he was the biggest. I mean, a lot of these guys, I think when you get past like 350,

there's like multiple numbers floating around. But yeah, I'm just going to guess on. Yeah, the best. The scale stopped working once he passed 350. He still didn't even step on them anymore. Was that too? So obviously, the one of the most famous ones is William, the refrigerator, Perry. I mean, he's part of that Super Bowl that scored a touchdown against the Patriots. What was it? Super Bowl 20. Back in 86, whatever. Yeah. So he was six, two, three, 85. So he's shorter and slightly fatter or thicker than Ted Washington. He played on the defensive, line, right? Yes. But he also played a fullback, which is why he got so famous. He weighed 200 pounds at 11 years old. Wow. And apparently he was like a freak athlete at that,

like middle school, high school age. Like he used to run the 100-yard dash for his high school. He could do like a 360 dunk. They're saying he was on the diving team. He's on the what team? Diving team? A guy that on the diving team, he can only dive once. They have to refill the pool. I would have loved to see. I was good stuff because my point of comparison for fat guys is Vince Wilfork. Right. Yeah. That's a pretty, you know, he's like a big dude, not massive. Do you have any guesses on what he weighs? Under 60. He's got short though, right? He's got like long 300s. 325 at 6'2".

Yeah. 6'2". 6'2", 325. So Nate Newton's 6'3", 4'1", is just insanity. Because the height has a lot to do with it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got more place to put it. Yeah. Because even one of the, I have some other notables, Trent Brown, he was 6'3", so he didn't quite look as wide as Wilfork did, but he's just a huge dude. So I think that plays a lot into it. So more on the fridge here. He had the largest Super Bowl ring ever fitted. It was a size 25, where the normal male adult has a size 10 to 12. So size 25, you could fit that over a hot dog.

God damn. I'm assuming that's like, is that the same as like your waist? Is that the same measurement? Probably. Because that's like almost, I could almost fit that on as like pants. If that's it, that measurement. I don't think it is, but we're going to go with it. Yeah. So obviously, he got really famous during those Super Bowl days, because he was kind of like that. Like, you know, funny guy, he scored touchdowns. Everybody knew him. He'd sell like toys with him on it and shit like that. He had a great nickname. So then, I further went down in the rabbit hole to a 2002 celebrity boxing match between the fridge and minute bowl. What? You guys basketball player? The basketball player.

Tall and skinny, though, right? Like, yeah. Tall and skinny is the most loudly, on an unexaggerated way to defy him. Give me a picture. Tall and skinny. He is a legitimate stick bug. He weighed in at in height at 7 foot 7, 240 pounds. Damn. 7 foot 7. 240. What's the reach on that, though? 102. Okay. Do you have like a video of this boxing match? There's a video on YouTube. How long is it? It's like 15 minutes. Damn. That boxing match for that long? It's so Perry was 6'3. They had him listed as 350 plus.

And the commentators noted that he broke our scale while weighing in. He's probably pushing 400. And let me tell you, he was not in good shape, the fridge. He was in his prime in 86. Yeah. And I think he struggled with his weight a little bit and had some other issues going on. But you know, they show the hype up videos of them like training in the gym. Yeah. It's worth watching for that because the fridge is wearing a Hawaiian shirt and a Kangol hat. And it's just like lazily punching out of bag. And then like manoeuble's like shadow boxing or like sparring with a guy who's like 5'4 and it's just the most

ridiculous visual you've ever seen. Who won? Manoeuble won in a landslide. I'm pretty sure fridge didn't even throw a punch. He was just kind of like he was so beat and like he was just cutting a check, you know. That's kind of why I was surprised that the video was 50 minutes long because I didn't think the fridge could go for that long. Yeah. They went three rounds. Weighed in the four minutes. Perry, he didn't really punch. He kind of did some shubs towards the end. The ref said, you better start, you better start fighting or we're not going to pay you. The ref legitimately said that. The ref said that too. Oh, shit. But Manoeuble was doing it to raise money for Sudan. He's Sudanese. And I kind of like did a little brief

look into him. He's a pretty amazing dude, Manoeuble. Like he's an ambassador for Sudan. He's done tons of humanitarian work and he's like super, super legit. So shout out, shout out Manoeuble and his son, Bowl Bowl. It's a real Bowl Bowl, first round traffic. Yeah, he's in the NBA, right? Yeah. He's like Manoeuble with handles. It's ridiculous. How tall is he? Is he seven plus? Same thing. I think he might not be quite as tall, but he's definitely also a stick bug status. Damn. All right, status. Yeah, they legit look like stick bugs. It's watching them play sports is fucking crazy. Oh my goodness. So you want to hear some other notables here? I just had a couple of other guys that are on the list. Mackay Bekton, the the Jets first round pick from this previous

draft. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, 67, 364, went to 11th overall. He ran his 40 faster than Tom Brady. As if it's what we decided. Yeah. How big was he though? 64? 67, 364. Damn, that's a big dude. Yeah. He ran the 40 in like six steps. Yeah. He's a crazy athlete, man. I guess he's done it pretty well, too, for the Jets. And then the other guy I had, well, actually Roy Williams from the Cowboys, right? He was there safety. Oh, yeah. He built parcels nicknamed a biscuit because he was one biscuit shy of a linebacker. So I thought it was funny. Well, isn't that a quote about Calvin Benjamin, too? He was one biscuit away from a tight end. That would make sense. Somebody said that on like

Monday Night Football. I think it was Booger said that on Monday Night Football. Oh, Booger. Jokes stealing from built parcels again. Again. And then the fattest punter ever, Sav Rocka 65265 for the Giants for I had him as the Washington football team named that she'll be not named. Well, he wasn't the football team at the time. The hard words. Yeah. Yeah. He was an Aussie rules football player that came over and played in the NFL. Oh, yeah. I remember they loved them. I guess I was a rules football. Now that's it. That's all my notes for the game. Okay. Thanks. Thanks for trying to appreciate that. So for any of you who had on their bingo card, Greg goes down on a fat guy.

Uh, deep dive. You can check that off and ends up in basketball and talks about the new new bull's humanitarian work in Sudan. Gotta love the internet, guys. Gotta love the internet. Oh, goodness. Yeah. All right. Well, that's uh, yeah, let's see. Bring this one back, Andy. I don't know if I can. All right. Let's see. Stick bugs. Yeah. Well, we could have brought it back around. Trent Brown. He was on or Mackay Bekton. I mean, Jets offensive linemen speaking of Jets offensive linemen. How about that fake field goal? They threw a pass to it. That's what a fucking stupid play that was. Oh, God. Yeah. That's I can't recover from all this fapping talk. I'm just like, I'm just a little hungry now.

Yeah. What I want to know, Greg, is I think you should write a blog post about it. I want to know who the fastest fat guy was in terms of like 40 time to wait. Yeah, BMI. I tried to look that up. Like who, who was the highest BMI like weight? I'm just saying like like the fastest fat dude. So in terms of like who was the fattest, yeah, but also ran the quickest, you know what I mean? So like somebody who's, you know, 400 pounds. We're the greatest inertia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are we talking speed or velocity? I don't know, dude. I don't even know what those words mean. Do the same thing. Well, velocity is just speed with direction, isn't it? Yes. You didn't see that coming, did you? It's got to be pulled like I was I was elbow deep up my

ass right there. 11th grade physics there and he just pulled out of his ass. Not bad. I feel like I read that recently. So that's the only reason I know it as you do. Speaking of velocity, we had another Tom Brady touchdown run in this game in the third quarter of a week, three game. This is the Patriots first rushing touchdown of the season, which blew my mind. Didn't help that they also showed a stat. Anton Smith on the season was averaging 1.8 yards of carry. So that's great. Can't imagine. Yeah, Kevin Falk was averaging like five something and he actually got most of the carries in this game. He carried them. But they showed a stat. Earlier on in the game where they had rushing Parison on the season. Jamal Lewis, who I'm assuming

was the leading rusher for the Ravens had 364 rushing yards through three games and three touchdowns. Clinton Portis 249 and two touchdowns. The Jets and Patriots combined 245 yards and one rushing touchdown through three games. Curtis Martin. Right. The Jets as a team in their first two games had accumulated 78 total rushing yards in the first two weeks. It was the sixth worst ever in the history of the NFL. It's tough. And they were saying that on the season there were 33 running backs, like individual running backs in the league that had rushed for more yards than that. Right. So the Jets offense was the 34th ranked running back in terms of yards gained on the season. We get it together though, right? Curtis. I think he ends up rushing for a thousand yards on the

season. Yeah. 13 of you guys. Yeah. But two touchdowns. But two touchdowns. Oh, bro, the next year too. So he's not, this is not the downfall of Curtis Martin. It's just a slow start. Is that fair? I think so. Yeah. I think that's basically what happens here. It's just a slow start for the Jets in general. And I think they are still kind of recovering from the Chad Pennington thing, even though, which is weird because he must come back this season because he finished as the leading passer on the team. Yeah, he does. And Santana Moss went for over a thousand yards and 10 touchdowns, which is surprising because the Jets finished six and 10 last in the AFC East. Is it that surprising though? A little bit. They had,

I'm just saying the Jets blowing it. I mean, they had Pro Bowl with Sean Ellis with 12 and a half sacks on the team. He was the guy that they picked with the Belchek pick. Right. Yeah. And also a 40 year old Vinny Testaverde starting at quarterback. So that's not going to help. I don't think Vinny was bad. Like you said, Greg, I feel that that Pennington injury in the fourth pre-season game fucked this team up for a couple of years. Yeah. Yeah. Because let me, you compare these games and they're not too far apart that when we lost to the end of 2002 and this one, they're only five games or so apart. And they're coming off that like 40s, one to nothing thrashing of the Peyton Colts too in the playoffs. So they're coming into the season

supposed to be good, right? They have high expectations. Yeah. And then they put Pennington in a week four pre-season fucking Herm, dude. I'm speaking this out loud and the more I'm saying is Herm blew it, right? Oh, fucking idiot. And then he's like, well, okay, we're going to suck anyways. It's called terribly behind big feet. Yeah. Now I'm pissed he said that. It's like they could have been good. They should be good. He's out there just fucking around. Oh, Jesus. But even though you said, mentioned this earlier, Andy, of like, this team does not look like they're about to go rip off a huge. Right. Like the offense looks completely out of sorts. They can't get a running game going. Brady looks like he's hurt. Yeah. Like he got

hurt again in this. And we already talked about how he had his separated shoulder you're still dealing with the same. After the previous week's game against the Eagles, he had like a bad elbow and it got rocked again in this game. Like he was throwing and he got his arm caught. And it was like he was making these like weird mistakes. Like he went to pump fake and threw the ball backwards over his head. Yeah. The old empty hand. Yeah, exactly. And it wasn't like it's not rain or nothing. It wasn't cold. It was just a weird like unbraided like sort of thing. What branch got hurt in this game too? Oh, yeah. We're talking about injuries, aren't we? And then we got under fat guys. Pat and I got her. Pat and went down yet with a knee

didn't come back. Brady was hurt. Tyler. Tyler went down with an ankle injury that looked like it was broken. And he was like writhing on the floor. And then that opened the door for Sante Samuel to come in. And all he did was first play the fourth quarter got a pick six off of a good old Vinnie Tessa Verde for 55 yards. His first ever interception in the NFL. It was a great one. It was a fantastic pick. It's a game turner. Seven point game at that point. Yeah. Started fourth. Probably what they're like midfield. Yeah. So they might be driving down for points. Yeah. This is the drive where like right after the Patriots scored their only offensive touchdown with Brady running it in. And so the jets had been kind of driving all day and they kind of

picked it up in the second half too. Like they drive down the field and then they do something stupid like try a fake field goal or not convert any third downs. I think there were like I wrote it down somewhere. Like they were really bad. They were one and one for 13 on third down for the game. So there's you know they drive all the way into New England territory and then get a third down and not convert it. So that's great. Yeah. But so like Greg saying like the jets get the ball back. They're driving again like they've been doing all day. Get to about midfields. And I don't know. It wasn't a great throw. No. Sante. Broke like an out route and like tipped it up to himself. Yeah. Yeah. He knocked it into his own face and knocked it

straight up again. I would define him as like running as scampering. Yes. Do you think as Sante Samuel was like a scamper. He always seemed to be like running you know. I don't know. He just he felt like he was like like Tyler's like a heavy like physical guy. And I said they say I'm always just like he was all quickness like like those bugs that are on water. The little water bug. It's funny. You say that because they call water bugs. Water bugs. Yeah. What are the bugs we get now. National Geographic nature are with the Brown Brothers. Yeah. Speaking of which. Listen to the outside in podcast by NHPR. It's great. No. Yeah. Let's let's talk about it. Go fuck yourself. And you yelled at me for hyping my

show. Which one? Stuff you should know. We promote different podcasts on this constantly. Yeah. But only ones that I like. Yeah. And come on. People aren't trying to lose. I want to fucking listen to us. Because we're a bunch of big dick dummies. But speaking of Sante Samuel running style. They actually had a quote from Belichick about how Sante Samuel is quote built like a soccer player. Yeah. He just built different. Didn't explain what that means. Just that he's bill. I don't know if that's like a a dig at soccer players. Greg care to respond. Yeah. Yeah. That just means they're not good in the weight room. That's all that means. Well, at least you're honest about it. Yeah. Trust me.

So when you when you were at UNH playing soccer, how many times did you lift weights? I mean, I used to go occasionally. Kelly always tells the story of like she came like to my house and I was sleeping when I was supposed to be at lifting. But that was erroneous. Because I was supposed to be I couldn't make lifting because I had class. I was just skipping class. So I could sleep in. So if I I went to the ones I was like supposed to that I didn't have classes. Sometimes I skip classes, but I wasn't going to skip class to go lifting. That's ridiculous. You've got a an interesting moral compass. I will say that. Yeah. But we used to weight lift in the same weight room as the football team.

And like they were the trainers, the weightlifting guys there. Like you'd see them with the football team and they'd be like hyped up playing loud music, getting in people's faces, you know, like so much energy in that room. And then we would get there and they'd be like, OK, yeah, we wrote some workouts on the whiteboard. Just do that. And then they just go in their office and chill. Thanks guys. Some smooth jazz. Thanks. You guys can't handle the real stuff. So here you go. They did not give a shit about us. And for probably for fair reason, we weren't as interested as football players were. That's fair. What about the hockey players? I bet they probably lifted like football players,

especially at hockey school like you and age. Right. I never I don't think I was ever in there when they were lifting, but they were very I think hockey in general, you're off the they're super casual attitude towards the sport. They're not like, oh, we got to work hard. They're more like, yeah, I can see that. Who my flow is. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, we used to see them do like fitness stuff outside and they were fucking around slack and they just looked like a bunch of dopes. Yeah, I think it's way more important to be skilled and hockey than it is to be fit. If that makes sense. Yeah. Like if your hand I cordially I think everyone's level of fitness. It's certainly a really hard sport to play it from a fitness level. Greg,

you played hockey for a while too, didn't you? And like you said, it was it was miscibly hard. It's yeah, no, not fitness wise. Like I thought because you told me it was like hard of it like spring skating on skating is just such a unique skill. And it's like it's such it's really hard sport to like break into and get past the first learning curve. Once you could skate, it's okay. But the first I came into it late and I was terrible and I was fucking miserable for like two years. Did you use to use the boards to stop because you didn't I couldn't I couldn't stop. It was that was a problem for a while.

You can just why we stopped Curtis Martin on that first drive on 32. Speaking of running backs, Kevin Falk, MVP of the 2002 season, like we talked about, continuing that run. Yeah. He had a mixed day. They talked about how he was the all-time kick return leader, which I thought, I don't know if that's a real thing or still stands. Turns out it does. And not only that, he leads Patriots kick returns, kick returners in terms of yards by, oh god, like another quarter. He ended his career with 4,098 kick return yards. But Patriots all time or all time all time? Patriots all time. Okay. Yeah. In second place is Ellis Hobbs. Pretty good. 2,913 return yards.

Double them up? Well, not quite, but yeah. It's another extra 1,000 on top, basically. Well, didn't they change where they kick off from? This is way more touchbacks now. Yeah. There are now, yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that's a record that'll never be broken, right? Yeah. Unbreakable records. That's another, that intrigues me. Number three is Dave Megat, Greg, your favorite. Not going to touch that one. 2,500 yards. And right behind him was the other kick returner in this game, Bethel Johnson. Bethel, that's interesting. He flashed 1,000. Yeah, he did. He's done okay this season. Wow. All right. What did he flash for you, Steve? Talent. Yeah, I know. But like, can you explain the plays maybe? Or what he did that?

He took the ball. For somebody who perhaps didn't watch the game. Like all our listeners, Andy, like you can't, you can't just say shit and just think like, oh yeah, everyone's listening is going to agree. They didn't watch the fucking game. It's Bethel Johnson. He only has one highlight. He catches the ball and then goes really fast. All right. Wow. That guy's pretty fast. Actually, he had one other highlight that didn't involve him with the ball running really fast. It involved him running down Santana Moss on a punt return because they were both really fast. And the only person on the field that can run down Santana Moss is Bethel Johnson. Hitting with the old Daniel Graham. Ben Watson? Ben Watson.

Sure. It was Daniel Graham. And it was DK Matkaf. Yeah, the DK Matkaf. That's what it is. Now, so I was actually thinking in this game that if we have some younger listeners, we may want to kind of explain who these people we're talking about now are in terms of current players. Oh, I like that. And so the one that's, yeah, the one that stuck out to me was Vinny Testaverdi is the original Ryan Fitzpatrick. What do you mean? Journeyman who flashes everywhere he plays. I mean, there's never like a true starter. He had, yeah, he was, what did I say? He's the only one of four quarterbacks to get an NFC player of the month. And he did it with three different teams, including LJ Browns. He passes Johnny Unitus in this game on the all-time list.

For 40,000 passing yards. You're like one of eight guys. Part of that is longevity, but we've discussed this earlier as well of like, you've got to be good enough to be around long enough. Yeah. There's a certain level of freshness you need to hit. He wasn't. Maybe I'm one of the younger listeners because I mean, I only really remember Testaverdi from like 2000 onwards. So he's, he's drafted in 87. So I probably missed like the real flashes where you're like, this guy has talent. Yeah, played a shit on Tampa, but at the time I was, he was kind of just like, he was serviceable, not like you could get like a huge win out of this guy. Oh yeah. He's 15th in the career passing yards right now. Still pretty good. It's a lot.

He's 12th in sacks. He got so many opportunities. It's crazy. Yeah. He was all over the place. He was, yeah, he was the one that replaced, it was a Bernie Kosar in, in Cleveland. Yeah, when Belichick was there. Yeah. And they, they eviscerated him for it. He started 16 games in Dallas in 2004. Like what the fuck? How are you going to pick up a 41 year old quarterback and start on the whole year? Dude, he started six games in 07 for Carolina. He went on five and 10. That's Bill Parcells, right? That's Bill Parcells. Oh four, I think it may be. Oh four Cowboys. Bill Parcells scooped up a 41 year old Vinitestaverdi and was like, we're rolling with this guy for

the year. We know him. What a fucking idiot. It must have been when, it must have been because Drew Henson went down because Drew Henson was one and 0 on the season. Okay. That makes no sense. He started one game, but played in seven. So maybe not. What the fuck? Oh, green head. Oh, green head. So yeah, Vinitestaverdi is. He is old school Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah. He is the early 2000s. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Who else do we have? I had another one, but I forgot it now. It's my mind. Curtis Martin, who's his comparison? I mean, there really is a quiet workhorse running back. Yeah, I like that one. Oh, that's not a bad one. Yeah, that's pretty good. First ballot hall of famer. Productive as shit during the year out. It is productive longer than you expect him to be.

Yeah. That's a good one, Steve. Yeah, that's pretty good. So Rodney Harrison. Who would you compare Rodney Harrison to these days? Like Tyra and Matthew, maybe. More physical. Yeah, somebody who plays a bit like Jamala Adams. Talks a lot. Super confident. Heavy hitter. Like playmaker, ballhawk type. Or even Earl Thomas might be a good comp too, because that's not a bad one. One of those, you hate him if he's not on your team, but if he's on your team, you kind of love him. Except apparently everybody's actually on the team hates him. He's part of that. But yeah, he's kind of that like always walking the line. When he's on your team,

you fucking love the guy, but if he's playing for somebody else, you can't stand him. Oh, I had another one. I think, well, what about Cam Chancellor? He's retired now, but yeah, yeah, yeah. Just kind of like that more physical player. Yeah, he's a little more physical than what's his name? Thrown his weight around. But here's one that started me thinking it, because this is what popped into my head when I'm watching Christian Fourier. He looked great, Steve. Christian Fourier is, I think, a bargain basement version of Travis Kelsey. They look and play exactly the same. You just say them because they're both white, Andy. No, they're mannerisms and the way they run routes and everything are exactly the same.

Is Travis Kelsey white? Are you calling him a racist? No. Why? Travis Kelsey Asian people. What? Where is this coming from? Did Fourier get in trouble for... Oh, yeah, he did recently. Travis Kelsey's white. I have to check these things after Patrick Mahon. I know. And no fucking clue that guy was black. That's what that throwback was. Yeah, they look and play exactly the same. And just out quick, run five yards down the field, turn and sit, and then catch the ball. And if you don't catch the ball, you complain to the

referees that you're being held and make some pretty acrobatic catches in the end zone sometimes, but also drops easy passes. They have a similar feel to them to me. Who's like Bruce Lee and Willie McGinnis, like some of the linebackers and bench guys? I don't know if there are comps anymore just because of how big linebackers used to be back in the day. Like that's not a thing anymore. I almost said Vanderesh, but I think that's because I was thinking white middle linebacker. Maybe you are racist, Greg. We just... Maybe. I'm covering this now. Vanderesh and Willie McGinnis are the same. No.

I'm just trying to recover for you, Greg. Okay. I don't know about McGinnis. I think for middle linebacker, I think... Oh, my God. Now that he's not... Well, I have a good one. Stop thinking. Who was the middle linebacker last year for the Pats? Hytow? Jesus Christ. Vanderesh, yes. No, Hytow. Thank you. I think Hytow would probably be a

reasonable comp for Teddy Bursky, maybe? Bursky was like a playmaker guy, though. All these pig sixes we're seeing him make. I feel like Hytower never did that. Like Ted Johnson was Olandon Roberts. Ted, yeah. The fulper. Man, Bursky is a run-stopper. Or sort of like Hytower. Yeah. I think that's the closest you're going to get on this.

And then Rable was their version of Jamie Collins. More athletic and coverage-oriented. Yeah. Well, like a Rob Ninkovich. And then Richard Seymour is just a watered-down Julius Peppers. Whoa. All the way around. I think... I feel these peppers are better than Richard Seymour. I can say that. Richard Seymour was great. I'm not really wrong.

But Julius Peppers was an absolute monster. Well, I think they just play different positions. Just like a tall, but super athletic. Yeah. So I'm reading the Christian Fourier thing about when he got in trouble. Yeah. It's fucking ridiculous. I knew it was quiet for too long. I knew something was going on.

It was about Don Yee, Brady's agent. Right. And basically the crux of the joke that they're trying to make on EI was that they had expected Don Yee to have an Asian accent, but he didn't have an Asian accent. Because he's probably born in America. Yeah. Exactly. So he starts like they actually play Don Yee like audio and be like, this is crazy. This guy doesn't have an Asian accent. And then he starts reading fake Don Yee texts in a normal voice,

but they put soft bamboo flute music in the background and then he slips back into Asian. What the fuck? What an idiot. Yeah. Don Yee was born in Sacramento. Yeah. Dude. Yeah. That's the best part is because we were already born.

Was he born in the same area? This is also the Bay Area. So they're basically born in the same. Nobody from EI was like, this is stupid. Yeah. We should bail on this pretty quick. No, they put flute music behind it. It's 2018. Oh, yeah. This is recent.

This is, yeah. Oh, man, it's funny. It's not old. But yeah, that's why it kind of bums me out to see him catch touchdowns on this. I'll give him a second chance. Yeah. So I guess Tom Brady kind of made Don Yee. He has been Brady's agent since 99. Damn.

Since coming into the league. Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, man. I can see that look on your face. You're about to say something real fucking stupid. I'm going to have to cut out of this. I can feel it.

You should cut this anyways. What are we, W.E.I.? Leaving it all in. Oh, man. Oh, fuck. I mean, it's not the worst thing in the world. It's just stupid, you know? Yeah.

Speaking of. It just more shows how dumb they are. Yeah. You know, I don't think it's like particularly harmful. I'm sure Don Yee is like, whatever. Oh, yeah. It just shows how dumb they are that they're like, but this was also the time when,

like I think Dennis and Callahan were getting in a bunch of trouble for like. Oh, they're the right wing. Not jobs and see those guys. I actually are problematic. Where I think Callahan is. Yeah. He's still OK. Yeah.

And I don't even mind the other guy that went to Barstool, but the Callahan, he's the one that's like. Oh, yeah. He's he has a legitimate like problem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know because I don't listen to Boston Sports Talk radio. Think. Don't. How are they this week? Oh, I've checked out. I can't listen to him this year. Apparently they were talking about how Bella check the GM has been tanking this whole time.

And it's his fault that and actually looking back on it. Brady did better than anybody could have expected last year because he has no weapons and the Patriots suck at drafting weapons and the Patriots. Yeah, that's funny. They weren't saying that last year. Right. This is to give context.

This is after week six. So they are Patriots are currently two and four. They just want to make predictions as to how this season will play out. Yes. Steven, go ahead. You have the floor. We expose Josh Allen as not good. This game against the certified stamped.

Not good. Well, he throws a punch him in the sessions. He's awful. We crush him and spur that to go on a fat run. So you're thinking 12 and four like I am. Maybe not 12 and four, but, you know, 10 and six. OK. Who's the quarterback at the end of the season, Steve?

I can't do it. And they go and they sort of cam and I go on a fat run and the offense looks like it did in the Seattle game and in the Raiders game and, you know, in the Dolphins game. I'm with Steve on everything except the record. I think they go 12 and four. I don't think they lose again this season. Similar to this 2003 season that we're about to do. I think I think because Edelman goes down, I think it's another changing of the guard.

I think it's the Wes Walker to Edelman. I think it's now Edelman to Gunnar Olszewski. And here's going to be the new Julian Edelman. Who is the new Wes Walker? Who is the new Troy Brown? And then we continue that, especially since he's number 80. It's all going to work out. So we're going to have a thousand yard season in 12 more games now.

Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, Andy, with or I think they go 11 and five. And you think they go 12 and four. Greg? I want to like, as soon as you guys started talking, my gut was to be like, we're going to go fucking two and 14. But I actually am like, I'm not as into dumps about this team as I think other people are. Me neither. I mean, they've shown that they can play offense.

We've done it with Cam Newton. He can do it. I think they're in disarray right now, but there's still a good coaching staff. Still one of the best in the league. You get back to basics. I think the offensive line is still good and talented. And now they're starting to get healthy. There's no reason they can't run the ball.

And there's talent on defense. This team is too talented and too good a coaching staff to be a sub 500 team. I have no weapons. They never had weapons. I do think there's some legitimacy to like people underestimated what Brady meant to this team, though, just from like offensive. Yeah. Keeping the ship righted and situations like this, where you start, things don't go well.

That's why the Patriots like never lose like multiple games and rows, because I think everyone's like, we have faith in Brady and Belichick. But once cracks show and you have new guys in there, it's like, well, they were talking this week about how all the old school Patriots like Devon McCordy have been asking the new guys who come in how they handle a losing streak. Yeah. Don't know how to do it because they've never experienced it before as a Patriot player. It's crazy.

Like, so what do you guys do if you lose like three of these games in a row? Like, do we panic? Is that, is that how this works? Well, I'm going to say one thing and then I'm going to bring it home to the Jets game again. And then it gives you pauses their inability to stop the run because they don't have any fat boys in the middle and everyone keeps getting hurt. And I'm surprised. Like, we saw that do them in in 2002, right? That was a big issue with that team.

That's why I didn't play well because they just could not stop the run. And then we get the biggest fat boy on the market in the off season. Not Washington. Borekley fat, as we discussed here today. The Washington line event. And then he gets injured in week three. So I'm interested to see how the Patriots piece together the, because he what fractured his leg.

So he's got to be out for a while. Did he? Week 10. Comes back week 10. Yes, that's out for seven. Also, I looked at the Roosevelt-Colvin thing. Wikipedia said he shattered the socket in his left hip. Yeah, it was.

I knew it was something like crazy. I like that, dude. Oh, right. Oh, my God. That's a horrendous thing. That is so painful. How do you? I don't even understand how that works.

There's something like muscles and shit attached to that, too. Like, God. Oh, yeah. Oh, the rehab on that's going to suck. That makes me feel better. But I picture Roosevelt-Colvin as kind of a bust. Like, I'm never being excited about him. But if it was more injury related,

then he couldn't fit the system. That makes me feel better for him. You never want to see a guy not perform well. I mean, obviously, injuries suck. But at least it wasn't just like he couldn't figure it out. I think he's a cool dude, too. From what I think it was him, he owns a cupcake shop. Cupcake shop.

Yeah. Cupcake shop. I think it was his wife or something. Yeah. Didn't expect you to say cupcake shop, right? But yeah, that's what he does. He still does radio interviews and stuff. Because when the page was playing

it was Super Bowl in Indianapolis. What was that one? Yeah, I'm not seeing segment. Is there somebody else with it as well, right? There's him and another player or something? Maybe. I don't know. But yeah, so a cool dude, still.

Cupcake shop. Yeah, but going back to. That'd be like Ted Washington. Going back to W.E.I. and talking about Brady. Speaking of Brady talking badly or having a hard time deciphering him, John Abraham in this game was quoted saying that he can't get a handle on Brady's cadence, which was blatantly obvious because Brady, I think, had what, three, maybe even four or hard counts that drew just off sides.

He looked like this out there. This was peak Tom Brady hard count. I don't remember him using it recently. Yeah, I'll see that. The last time you've seen Brady try to draw somebody off sides. Yeah, doesn't do it anymore. But he was real good at this game. He like I said, he looked like Aaron Rodgers out there.

Aaron Rodgers been doing that forever. That's that's pretty impressed. That's his version of Brady's quarterback sneak. True. Yeah. You ever seen this? That's on Rodgers like free plays. They're insane. Yeah, control because he just he just takes a deep shot every time because he does it so often.

He gets so many of them that, you know, everyone in the team knows just go deep. And we're just gonna chuck it up. I wonder if they they change it like people figured out Brady's through like film study or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And like Rodgers has like changed his cadence enough that he can still get people. Well, that's what they were saying. Like because they were talking about John Abraham and how he would like he would study

that on quarterback. So you get the jump on them. He's like, I can't do that with Brady. I can't figure out what his cadence is. And they got him a few times. Wouldn't that fuck with your own team? Offensive, right? I don't know.

I think unless you just tell them, hey, I'm going on three. Because maybe that's maybe that's something to do with it is like you weigh like how often you're getting false starts as opposed to off sides. And if you're like, it's not worth it to even try these. Yeah, because they did do one of the hang on. See, they did do the whole trying to do drawing them off sides on fourth down that Greg hates. I hate that. But the whole sequence was amazing because it's fourth and one like just inside just

territory and they line up to punt it like this on the pun team out line up to punt it. And then last second, I don't know how they managed to sneak him on. But Damon Hewitt is in there and they they tried something like this maybe last season or something where they shift really quickly and Damon Hewitt gets under center. And then like they literally snapped the ball and he did the Brady QB sneak because it's fourth and one. But like right as they shifted that one of the jets called timeout because they had no clue what was going on.

And Damon Hewitt basically took the ball like as they called timeout. They hiked the hiked it. The rest gave them the timeout, but it was like fractured a second close. And Damon Hewitt just took off a full sprint straight down the field. And basically if the play had stood would have had a one on one with Santana Moss to get in the end zone. That would have been cool. So but the but then it gets called back because the timeout.

So then they put the offense on the field, do a shit ton of motion. Brady's trying to do a hard count. Everybody's like, yeah, we know what this is. And then they call timeout and bring the pun team on and actually punt it. It's like it took like probably five full minutes of actual time to get a pun to get up to get a punt off. And they just wasted everybody's time, including the viewers. They never think about me, the fan.

You know, how dare they? This is an entertainment business. You can't just like get my hopes up and be like, we're going to go for this and then pull this bullshit. Like, what if we get them? What if this is the one out of a thousand times? Actually trick them on this. Well, that's the thing.

You get them all relaxed and then you snap it anyways. That's what they should do is do this, like let the clock run and then at the last second call it and play it. Because no one does that. Nobody does that. Nobody does that. Yeah. And the whole office.

What else they should do. The defense line just sitting there going, okay, this is one of those things. I don't know. Don't pop sides. Whatever you do. Don't move. They're not ready for someone to come and hit them. Yeah.

You're not. Yeah. They're not going to get a push on it because you're you're. I agree. Or you should sell this to fucking Belichick. No, you know what you should do is you should you should line up and then have your punter throw it to your center, who's lined up as the tight end and have it bounce off his hands. Yeah.

Great play. Why bring it all back, baby. Pro Bowl. Then why didn't get in the Pro Bowl for his hands? Not. Aaron Rogers, three plays. He has nearly 2000 passing yards. He plays the top count.

Yeah. Love it. The next closest is Ben Rothesberger. He has just barely above a thousand. So he's doubled up second place. Damn. Well, all right. I think that's probably about it for this game.

Yeah. You guys want your best and worst? Best and worst. Yeah. All right. Greg, what was your best and worst? Oh, Greg's gets to go first. He never gets to go first.

Well, he did watch the game. Oh, he didn't watch the game. My best was. Asante Samuel. 55 yard interception return for a touchdown. That's the game. Taking over for an injured Ty Law, though. That's fine.

Oh, there are things to come. I'm not. I'm not but her because the Patriots are making plays. You know, you know, I was but her. I can roof it to two people at once. You know, who's but heard about it? Ty Law, because he came back still hobbling. Very obviously.

But you know, he's but her. He wasn't about to. That's what it was about. Asante Samuel the rookie. Yeah. How do you know that's what was going through his head, though? Or are you just projecting? No, you could tell.

You could see it in his eyes. Oh, you could see it in his eyes. I can read people. Just think. I didn't realize that. What am I thinking right now? You're thinking I'll bullshot. I've come up with a little bullshit.

Yes. So yeah, I can read people. Yeah, you're good at this. All right. What's your worst? How about fucking Herm Edwards? Like recycling that quote? That's what's getting me here.

Because he I listened to it and I was like, that's actually a pretty good quote. And then now that I know he just recycled it from the year before you play to win the game like, dude, come up with new material, you know? Right. I was probably one of these coaches. Yeah, I bet he's one of these guys is like,

I don't read the newspapers either. Yeah, right. He saw how people reacted to the first time he said it. And he's like, people love this shit. I'm definitely. She went viral. Yeah, viral is even a thing. Yeah.

All right. I'll give you that. What about you, Steve Brown? All right. Let's see. I'll go my worst first. We didn't touch on this yet. But I've mentioned this earlier how I think it's so dumb

with the hat taking off thing for the referees. I could remember if that was you or if that was Greg. Yeah. They just look like idiots. And then they all huddle up and one guy's got his hat. And then sometimes like they take their hat off and throw it off. Oh, they're in the huddle. Stupid.

That made its own appearance in this game where Vinnie Tessa Verde actually threw a great ball down the sideline and Wayne Corbett just kind of barely stepped out and came back in and caught it for a touchdown. And we kind of got bailed out there a little bit because your boy Eugene Wilson just like fell over his own feet. Yeah. He's just trying to flip his hips and just

tripped over the 20 odd line. I think that's wide open and just happens to just step out just a little bit and the game was pretty tight at that point. He's a rookie. He had a big break. Asante same is also a rookie, but he's returning interceptions for touchdowns. Yeah.

I think they figured out. We'll see how that plays out, Andy. Asante Samuel still thinks he can go today. He thinks he's trying to make a case for himself to be in the Hall of Fame on Twitter right now. I'll sign him. He's a scamper guy. I like scamper guys.

It's pretty entertaining. Yo, he just built another brand. I have another worst, Andy. This one's dedicated to you. Yo, that's sus. Blue is sus. Yo, this whole podcast is sus. Asante Samuel built different.

Greg's the imposter. Steve, let's hear it. I love dedications. Your second worst is your buddy Dan Deirdorff's quote. Fuck Dan Deirdorff. What was it? It was on the Asante Samuel pick six that Greg's favorite play is. Where he like bats it up and catches it and has actually great ball scales.

And he's just like, oh, it's all luck. Right. The actual like great football play. I mean, maybe luck that like Vinnie Tessa Verde was behind center. But the actual play was a pretty high ball skill play. And he just totally, totally disregards it for like five minutes. And doesn't. Ever since they tried the fake field goal where they're throwing it to an offensive lineman,

which he used to be. They were talking about how many balls he had caught, which spoiler was zero. He's like, yeah, no, I had 17 touchdowns in my career. And who was it? Dick Enberg basically is like, no, no, you didn't. And so the entire time was like talk. He was trying to like talk himself up as a receiver. And so I think that was part of it was Asante Samuel making this great acrobatic catch.

Well, that was that was just luck. I should know because I've caught a lot of big on this theme. And get me round up, Steven. This shit heavy laughing my ass off because I was watching it with my roommate, Abby, who's from India. And I rewound it and played it again for him. And I was like, did you just hear that? He's like, no, it's I rewound it and played it.

And this is a this isn't even a football or not football. This is the direct quote. This is just power dick pounded away at the interior of the jets. Our dick football, baby. Steener said that. Yeah. Oh, fucking course. Because who is it?

Who is this broadcast partner? Someone named Richard, right? I'm assuming Dick Enberg. Yeah. This is just power dick. The interior of the jets. Oh, power dick football, baby. I feel like that should be like a video game.

Like a football game on your phone. Power dick football. Just taking that. That should be a t-shirt. Yeah. Power dick football. Shit pumping and power dick. Oh, Christ.

I guess that could be a best. I don't know. And maybe that's a vast Brady was. All right, I'll go off of that. My best speaking of power dick football. I discovered a new video football video game for your phone called Retro Bowl. I recommend it is free. And I know I have spent all week sitting on the toilet playing it to where

I my legs keep falling asleep when I keep not being able to get up afterwards. See, I stopped doing that once I stopped going to the office. Used to have me used to have me all the time. It hasn't happened since March coincidentally. I can't help it. I live in a small house. So the bathroom is my sanctuary. If I need to just like have some me time, I go in there, you know,

I make it a big deal like some candles, bring my phone in. Oh, God. Watch a video or play plays a play a game. Read a book, bring my guitar sometimes. Andy, I'm going to be honest. This sounds sus. Yeah, Retro Bowl on your phone. Retro Bowl and toilet bowl.

It's great. I highly recommend it. Retro Bowl and toilet bowl. Is that your best? Yeah. Also, if you want to if you want a game specific best, I would put Tyrone pool up there. He had himself a great game.

I think all the defensive backs did. They played Tyrone Olympic sized pool. Yeah, I think we said kiddie pool last time. But yeah, in this game, he was Olympic sized. Yeah. Yeah. He had himself Kevin. My why you got to be so rude.

That's a good one. That's that one. I was going to say Kevin. My why and shirt. My why and shirt. That's good too. My worst was as much as I talked about Kevin Falker being the MVP. He did make a mistake in this game.

The Patriots called a running back pass. And Kevin Falk looked like a high school quarterback that he probably was by throwing it, lofting it into triple coverage and nearly getting it intercepted. He got what? Which brought out the deer and deer dwarf. Oh, this is why they this is why they say that. This is why he plays defensive back.

Because if he could catch you be a wide receiver. So he got he got to beat that horse again. So that was fun. And then one stat that I enjoyed that they showed kind of halfway through this game. The teams in the AFC that made the playoffs in 2002. All started 500 or worse. The Jets and the Titans both started one and four. Steelers started one and three.

Brown started two and four. And the Colts and Raiders started four and four. This is the first time in NFL history that the two Super Bowl contestants did not make the playoffs the following year. Really? Yeah. Oh, shit. The Raiders in the box.

Yeah, because they both fell the fuck out. Wait, the box fell off too. No shit. It's I read it on wikipedia.com so it can't be wrong. Must be true. Yeah. All right. Oh, don't forget we have our we have our hotline

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The number zero. The number three. 505 8043. You can text this number. Correct. You can text that number. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a fully grown up phone number. You can text it.

You can call it and you leave a voicemail. Are you going to be receiving these texts? It's hooked up to it's hooked up to my cell phone at the moment and my computer. So I may accidentally answer it. But we'll see. I can see both of you are your phones right now. And I'm a little worried what's about to come through. Just don't forget that if you send a dick pic, make sure it's funny.

Right, Greg? Yeah, so that so that if we post it on show notes, no dick pic talks mom said no. And mom said, no, it's really, really talk on the air. So do not send us any pictures of your Willie. No, Willie picks. Oh, no, Willie Grams, please. No, Willie Grams, please. And can you confirm that you have received the hotmail message?

Yeah, I sent one as tech. Oh, he got it. You got it. I sure did. And I can respond right on my phone, too. So if you actually reach out to us, just be prepared that it is not just a one way street. What does GFY mean? Stat check.

Sounds sus. Sounds very sus. It is. It means good for you, Steve. Yeah. Yeah, that's not good for me. Because I say Greg smells. Can we do something about that?

And that's not good for me. It is because you're not in the same room as him. Yeah, but I can smell them all the way up here 500 miles away. Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, this this podcast is on fleek. I think this podcast is over. What a way to go out. It's unraveling.

Hit the high notes. So, yes, if you have any, if you have anything you need to say to us, 603-505-8043. Hundo P. Yo, fam. Hundo P, this shit is lit. And that's enough. All right, we'll see you next week for the, I think the last loss in... Patriots history. Very long future.

Yeah, this next week is going to be Gucci. Yeah, fam. Yeah, fam. Hundo P. See you next time. Hundo P. We'll see you next week. Maybe without Greg, if he continues this. On the Patriots Diocese podcast.

Yo, you going to do me like that, fam? See you later. See you later.