Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2003 Week 5: Patriots vs Titans
Episode Date: December 8, 2020Andy and Steve (no Greg this week) dive into one of their most-watchable (5 Lombardis!) game of the season so far against a good Titans team. Highlights:If you want to watch the game, or see the highl...ights, here's the Game Link.Andy finds a commentator he actually likes! Gus JohnsonOne-Hit-Wonder Game: Mike Cloud, Bethel Johnson, and Dan Klecko all show up bigAwkward cheering for the Red Sox lines up with Titans TDIf you're interested, Steve is thinking about allowing someone to purchase sponsor rights to his massive forehead (think Peyton Manning)And don't forget that we have the Dynasty Hotline if you want to drop us a line! Text or leave a voicemail at (603) 505-8043Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty,
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But really, they're just being stupid.
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Welcome back to your dynasty podcast in 2003 week four.
Is that right?
Week five.
No.
Yeah.
Five.
Yeah.
We're really good at this.
It's okay.
We're professionals.
2003 week five.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, this is actually something for me.
Right.
40 something.
40 something.
Correct.
They all just mush together.
We're killing it so far.
We may start this one over because this is bad.
No.
No, we're definitely not going to do that.
We don't do that.
We just one take this shit.
We're raw.
Fuck it.
We'll do it alive.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I don't know how many episodes we have.
We got a lot.
If you want to find them, you can go to paths pod.com and you'll see them all there.
So that's great.
Oh, wow.
I personally like the analytics page of paths pod.com.
I bet you do.
Podcast analytics.
It's pretty good.
Could use some work, but it's getting there.
Well, it's just cool to see how many because the answer how many episodes that we've done
is anyone actually listening to them.
And part of me feels like you're just making all this up.
I mean, maybe we've released 44 episodes.
So this is, I think we're four ahead.
So 48, we're almost at 50 episodes.
I think week seven will be our 50th episode.
Maybe we'll have to do something for that.
Like not invite Greg.
I thought he just shows up.
Yeah, I keep trying to lock him out, but climb through the window.
But this week we've closed the window.
So no, Greg.
So it's just going to be me and you, which I think is.
I love my brother, but probably for the best this week because I feel like we're getting a lot of
accomplished, which is good because there's a lot to talk about.
Exactly.
This game doesn't need any sidetracks or deep dives or anything like that.
This is just pure.
Awesome to watch football.
Yeah, start with a Lombardi rating.
That's what I was just going to say.
I would give this one out of six.
I'd give this a solid five.
Yeah.
I don't know what five.
We'll be a quarter because I'd even give it a five and a quarter.
And AFC championship.
That's what it was.
I guess five Lombardies in the AFC East championship.
All right.
I mean, AFC East championship or a dime a dozen.
So you can throw a couple in there if you want.
Just sprinkle them.
Well, I feel two of them equals a conference.
Whatever.
There's just so many to choose from.
The final score.
The final score was your New England Patriots 38.
And see Brown's Tennessee Titans 30.
It wasn't.
It was a lot closer than that.
We'll say.
I mean, the touchdown away.
I'd say it's.
Yeah.
It feels definitely a lot closer than it felt a bit closer than that.
For sure.
In fourth quarter.
Yeah.
But for the fact that this game went to halftime 13,
seven Titans.
The second half was.
With bananas.
They're actually.
Every single drive except for.
The kneel down at the end to end the game.
Ended in a score.
In the second half.
I didn't even think what they are.
Right.
There was not a lot of punting.
There was no punting in the second half.
I think they were in the whole game.
We had one, two, three, four punts.
The entire game.
And they all came in second.
No.
One came in the.
Great measure of how good a game is.
Like.
When I play golf.
I don't really keep score except for how many balls that I lose.
Like when I'm at like 15, I'm like, well, this is,
this is not going well.
And when you're like 15 punts, you're like, well, this is terrible.
But if I lost four balls and around a golf, I'm like, wow.
This is awesome.
So yeah.
So actually those five punts, I miss one.
But I think that's almost the inverse to how many.
Lombardi's we give it maybe.
The less puns, the more Lombardi's.
I bet there's a ratio there.
I'll bet you're right.
Especially on the Patriots side, because the Patriots punted.
Once.
Yeah.
It's a fucking shit ass pun.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
Oh, it was maybe it wasn't just once.
Maybe it was twice.
Either way.
Not very many punting.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And one of them was a 20 yard punt.
You're right.
That was not great.
But yeah, this is almost a tale of two halves really.
The first half was the story of say missed connections.
If you want to go all Craig lists on me where the page,
I saw that look.
You don't know about Craigslist.
Miss connections.
Oh, I know about it.
I don't want to go on it with you.
And that's where we're headed with this because this first quarter
was a football team looking for a scoring drive.
And you know, I saw you crossing the street and you look back
and then you kept going and I don't want off the upright or my
all time field goal leader.
Who had where is it made 33 in a row.
33 field goals in a row from under 40 yards,
missed two borderline chip shots.
I mean, both from under 40 in the first.
At least he'll stop showing that stat though,
because he kept putting that stat up every single time.
And not only that, but they put it up and then they started
showing like when he came to kick his third field goal.
They're like, oh, the last time he missed three field goals is
back in like 1996 at Buffalo.
I'm like, dude, that's a dick move.
Okay, that.
So then, but then, of course, he hit that field goal and I said,
I wrote down that he hit it probably out of spite.
These fucking announcers.
Wait, wait, I thought the announcers were great.
Yeah.
No, I'm saying I'm just saying that Adam and Terry spited them.
Yeah.
But it's not the announcers.
It's that guys, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the engineers in the booth.
Right.
Throw out those stats just to be a dick in the truck.
Yeah.
Let's talk about commentators.
Gus Johnson and Brent Jones.
I felt like they really added a lot to the enjoyment of this game.
I mean, this Brent Jones, not Brent.
Gus Johnson during exciting anything sporting event is just top
notch.
He's probably the best at those exciting games.
Just like.
Are either of them in the Hall of Fame for broadcasting.
Well, Gus, Gus Johnson has done a lot.
He's still doing it, isn't he?
Did Gus Johnson do like one of the Madden games commentary?
I have no idea.
Cause I know we got like.
Internet famous for a while for his college basketball.
He's a college basketball announcer.
Oh yeah.
And he's the one who's like from the parking lot.
He's awesome.
I don't know.
I'm Googling it.
Yeah.
Fucking stack.
I took this little shit.
What a dick.
While you're doing that, though, I had a.
I think it's probably borderline football, not football.
So let me.
This seems like the perfect time for that.
So let me.
Oops.
Let me share that with.
You and the audience because they're talking about.
Tom Brady running a QB sneak.
And when you say seven and when you say full of everybody,
he's just a little goose.
He's just going to go up and goose the center and he just,
he sees the hole right inside and you see him just lean forward.
Big hole up inside.
You don't necessarily call that in the huddle.
You just get up there and you say, Hey, there's a big opening.
I'm going to goose my center and get right on his tailbone.
Football.
I feel like John Madden loved that.
Football, not football.
Don't get right on his tailbone.
You see a big hole up there and you goose him and you get on his
tailbone.
So you walk up behind those other guys,
but your rub is grumbling.
Get right up on his tailbone.
You just give it a little tug and he just,
he just gives you that football.
You see the big hole.
You give me.
You're right on his tailbone.
If this is your first episode.
Spoiler alert.
Any time the announcers talk about goosing,
I'm going to play it for you because there's nothing better than
listening to announcers talk about goose in the center.
I feel like it's a, it's gone the way of the dodo bird.
I never hear any current announcers call it goosing.
I bet.
What's his name?
The Raiders Ramo.
Oh, he might talk about it.
I don't know.
No, he's coaching the Raiders now.
It's his name.
Fucking Chuckie.
You used to do Monday night football.
Yeah.
God, I'm so bad.
That's Johnson is not in the hall of fame,
but he's also still doing it.
See, that's what I'm thinking.
Yeah.
So when he retires, he probably will be.
How long has he been doing it?
He's like 53.
Play by play the Timberwolves from 96 to 97.
Wow.
Okay.
He did NFL for CBS from 98 to 2010.
So just starting this time, right?
Yeah.
And he's Fox sports, mostly basketball, college basketball
and college football.
So what's he doing now?
Same stuff.
Yeah.
I think he does like 2017 Fox sports announced he would be
play by play for the big 13.
I don't know how that works.
Was that the big 10, but they've added some teams.
Yeah.
All stuff.
Stupid silly.
All right.
Well, that's great.
I think before we get any further,
we should shut this out because this is an all time,
not only is it really exciting,
but it's an all time name game.
The names that produce in this game.
Are.
Um,
I want to say like, uh, the, the one hit wonder.
Kind of hall of fame almost.
Because you had this, but go on.
Uh, the, the three players that would get my game ball in this
game. Number one, Dan Cleco.
Yeah. Yeah.
Hall of Fame, Dan Cleco, who.
I think this was his son of a year.
Did a whole lot of nothing.
Uh, so one hit wonder hall of fame, Dan Cleco.
In this game, you had two full back assists.
He was in on the, uh, the goal line offense.
He played out of his board. Yeah.
He had a tackle for loss.
He was playing out of his mind on the,
the defensive line as a no tackle.
And he also had one kick return for 10 yards.
Yes.
Well, here's the op man and they tried a short kick and he caught
on the sidelines and actually kind of like.
Tightrope the, the sidelines to get 10 yards and.
So like a mini and coping.
Yeah, exactly.
You set in the, set in the stage for Dank open.
Uh, also had a great game was Bethel Johnson.
Speaking of kick returns.
He had five kick returns for 188 yards in this game.
Yeah.
And they kept kicking it to him, which was stupid.
Like they, cause the Patriots were putting two guys back.
It was him and Patrick pass.
They kicked it to pass once.
They kicked it to Cleco once.
And the five times they kicked it to Bethel Johnson.
He tore them up, especially.
We'll, we'll talk more about it in the fourth quarter is 71 yard
kick return.
And that wasn't the only good one that he had.
Yeah.
All of them were good.
Right.
And then, uh, last but not least.
Uh, B.C.
Native.
Uh, I think Dan Clecker, didn't he play at B.C. as well?
You may have, but, uh, my cloud on the other side of the ball.
This was the, my cloud game seven carries 73 yards, two touchdowns.
Haven't seen him before this because apparently he was
suspended for four games, which I looked up.
Yep.
Apparently he was actually drafted by the chiefs.
Uh, but obviously the chief's backfield was stacked.
So he didn't play.
But, uh, late in the 2002 season.
So the season before this, he tested positive for.
Mandra loan.
Use and was suspended for the first four games of this 2003 season.
Uh, but he later sued muscle tech after claiming that one of their
over the counter supplements, nitro tech caused a positive test.
So,
I totally will believe because there's no regulation on that shit.
Right.
Oh God. Yeah.
And there was like a quote from one of the, um,
the New York times about him after this game about how, um,
basically he's like, yeah, look, I filed a lawsuit against them,
but, uh, here it is.
But cloud knows the lawsuit is unlikely to clear his name quote.
The damage is done.
He said instead he's just happy to be back on the field with a
familiar number on his back.
So he knows that like it's out there and he's going to be looked
at as like some cheater, but.
He was sick.
Yeah.
I'm kind of pissed.
He didn't like stick or whatever happened because you can be like,
let's get cloud, you know, come on, let's get fucking cloud.
You know, I kept writing that over and go, let's get fucking cloud
career long.
Two yards.
Two touchdowns.
73 carries 70 or seven carries 73 yards, two touchdowns.
And we'll shit with the one hit wonders because he has five touchdowns
this year.
Yeah.
Two in this game, two in another game and one more.
And that's it.
I'm stoked for to get cloud later on this season.
Are you kidding me?
Hell yeah.
No.
Is it Mike?
Get off of my cloud.
No.
Was the barmanism for this fucking cloud, baby.
He came in and hyped them up.
But we're getting ahead of ourselves, I think, in terms of.
What's happened in this game?
Sure.
You want to just like go through this?
I will say this.
We played the Titans not too long ago or the end of last year.
That was like.
We had Scott on and we all kind of agree.
This is the absolute worst game of all time to watch.
It was so bad.
And this game.
The exact opposite.
And this game was an awesome game to watch.
And one of the teams were like two, two different, but.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Watch this one.
But.
One of my first notes is.
All that stuff we learned about Steve McNair and that first one.
Made me love him even more than I already did.
About him being country strong and loving.
And hate and working out and just being a real country boy.
I thought that was the best.
Yeah.
And he put this team on his back this year.
Well, they had that game anyway,
percent of the offense and it was like 80% this year.
Yeah.
It started like.
I think it was four years ago.
It was at like less than 40% or something like that.
And this year was like 79.8% of the offense went through Steve
McNair, which is.
Toast.
Oh yeah.
Complete toast.
I mean, I was calling about in that other Titans game.
You know.
For.
Oh, we had 101 yards.
We're taking 31 carries to get there.
And this game, he had a pretty similarly terrible stat line.
He had 15 carries, 35 yards with a long of 12.
This is his last season in Tennessee.
Yeah.
And they're even,
they're even talking about it.
Like commentators about how a lot of people are saying he's washed.
So let's see if he can run on this Patriots defense who.
In all honesty, like this Patriots defense was held together with.
Super glue and.
Like.
Elastic bands.
They got a little healthier.
At least not going to hurt this game.
Well.
Before, like they were,
they were talking about how.
Willie McGinnis was out at this game, which is why.
Yeah.
Our boy Matt.
He was starting because McGinnis had a neck injury.
Yep.
And played well.
And who else was starting?
Ty Warren was starting getting the start on the defensive line over.
Whoever the hell it was last year that, that played like garbage. Yeah.
They just drafts.
Right around here are fucking money.
Top notch. Yeah. Cause you have.
You have rookies and stuff,
but you know that they're going to be like really good for a long time.
Yeah.
And.
It's not the same.
All this year, all this. Yeah.
I'll make him play in this game. He's Eugene Wilson,
especially at the beginning of this game was all over the place.
He was playing.
They couldn't,
they couldn't stop talking about how he was.
Um,
a converted.
Cornerback playing safety.
It's like, look at Willie breaks on the ball.
And he's such a good cover guy.
It's like, well, is that good?
He probably still cornerback, but okay.
Let's put some respect in Eddie George's name.
He takes a thousand yards this year.
Really?
Yes.
Rushing.
Three yards per carry.
Yeah.
A thousand thirty one yards.
Five touchdowns.
Shit.
Good for him.
He's, I mean.
That surprises me.
Not going to lie.
1300, 1300, 1300,
1500,
939,
1165,
1031.
Damn.
I guess he finished with Dallas.
I don't remember that.
Oh, I do remember that.
He plays eight games there.
I want to say that was like during the true blood.
So are they over there too with the bill Parcells run on that show?
2004.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Maybe that's a little early.
I'm not sure.
But yeah, he almost broke.
Eddie George had like terrible game,
but he had one in that first quarter.
We almost broke a long run.
And Eugene.
It's kind of, it came across tripped up and.
Got him.
Yep.
Just barely.
Yeah. Eugene was all of them, especially in that first half.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You should have,
you should have a pick on the first drive.
The red zone.
I'll hit him right in the face mask, but.
So just to recap this first quarter.
Basically both teams are just driving the field at will.
Tennessee drives straight down the field.
And then McNair almost throws two back to back interceptions.
So they settle for field goal.
And then our boy,
Bethel Johnson takes a kick return to the Tennessee 43,
like huge return to open the, the, the start for the,
the Patriots.
They drive inside the Tennessee 10 yard line in like two or three
plays and then end up missing a field goal.
Adams first of the night of the day.
Tennessee drives straight back down again with some help from
New England defensive penalties.
Like keeping drives live and stuff.
And then they kick another field goal.
And this was interesting too.
The field goals.
The first field goal was kicked by the punter.
Yeah.
Hendrick.
Was that like too long for Gary Anderson?
That's what I thought.
So I'm like, oh, so maybe he just kicked a bunch.
But if you look at the Titan season, he,
this guy kicked four field goals on the season.
And I think it, one, maybe two of them came in this game.
Yeah.
He didn't kick it.
He, he was two for two between 30 and 39 and two for two
between 40 and 49.
Oh, and he missed one from 50 plus as the punter,
by the way on kicker.
And he was doing kickoffs as well.
But yeah, Gary Anderson went 30, 27 to 31,
but he was also, he was 10 of 14 from 40 to 49.
So who knows?
But yeah, they couldn't stop talking about Craig Hendrick.
Who was there?
They stopped talking about it.
Come on.
The commentators were great in this game.
No, I'm not, not a bad way.
It was great.
I also thought a sign of the times they were like, yeah,
the Patriots defense is a lot smaller and faster this year.
And they got Ty Warren in there.
And then they showed his little bio.
He's six, four, 300 pounds.
Like, that's, that's a small D line guy.
That's their lighter front.
That's a massive dude nowadays, right?
That's, yeah, that's an entire defensive level.
But they're not wrong either, you know?
No, yeah, he did look smaller than some of the other guys out there.
Yeah.
And the only other thing of note that happened in the first
quarter to go back to that was an absolute dime by Tom Brady
Troy Brown for 58.
I touched down.
I have this.
The way to totally redeem yourself, Troy.
No, but I don't remember what he did the play before where he
must have messed something up.
I also try to block these moments out of my mind, but yeah.
Oh, he had a false start.
There was a lot to bring up.
Yeah.
So the Patriots were trying.
I actually wrote this down.
So where is it?
I'm trying to get the hard count working, but that's three false
starts now.
And I think Tom Brady had a false start.
Yeah. Tom Brady had a false start.
I've never ever seen that before or since.
No, he just pulled out.
There was him and like the tight end both started going like,
and everybody else is just sitting there.
The quarterback is dropping back without the football because the
center didn't even nap it because Tom Brady's the only one on a
different snap count.
Yeah.
I think you should probably like just try to get on the same page
just on the snap count.
The rest of it.
Fine.
We'll see where it goes.
But if you could be on the same page about the snap count,
that would be great.
You know, that's Bill check bonkers.
Yeah.
But it kind of reminded me of that Steelers game.
The beginning of the season last year where the center got the
snap count wrong for the Steelers.
Yeah.
And he was the only one.
They have that video of him just like,
or the picture of him just sitting there holding the ball and
everybody's behind him.
I like how this Tom Brady touchdown to Troy is the only
highlight on the website.
So far I have a lot.
They're actually uploading now.
I mean, this is the only highlight you truly, truly need.
I have 11 of,
I have 11 more that are going to be going.
Gotcha.
But you know, that's only because I went back and got highlights
for every single Tom Brady touchdown.
So this is games.
The game.
Yeah.
Was a 58 dime.
Brady played well.
He did.
Not not like awesome.
Maybe Steven near might have played a little better.
But Brady do, you know, cause like the team was more balanced
and Steve was like the only guy.
Yeah.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
Steve McNair was 23 or 45,
360 yards,
but no touchdown.
The one interception took two sacks.
His pass rating was 68.8.
Brady was a more subdued 17 of 31 for 219 yards,
but he had that one touchdown and no interceptions.
He also took three sacks though.
And he had a rating of 88.
And I thought,
especially at the beginning of the game,
he was holding onto the ball to the point where actually wrote
down that he looked like Drew Bledsoe up in this bitch.
And I was actually, I was yelling to him,
like just fucking throw the ball.
It came to bite him on one very fumbled it and yeah,
offensive lineman recovered it thankfully.
Yeah.
Because it was the,
like the defensive ends were getting pushed past him like they do,
but they were, they had,
he had was holding it so long that they were able to like loop
back around and come back at him from behind.
It was a few times.
They still almost got some,
but he had gotten the ball like Gios got in the ball away,
but one time.
Yeah.
Like towards the end of the first half of it was,
he got absolutely rocked and dropped the ball at the pass
recovered.
But yeah, the,
actually I want the,
just to touch back on that Brady to Troy Brown touchdown.
It looked eerily similar to the touchdown that he throws in
overtime to beat the dolphins in Miami,
probably around this time.
I'm not quite sure exactly when that is.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yes.
I mean, I still haven't seen this play.
So I'm still waiting for it.
I think the overtime when they're on the baseball field and yeah,
very similar touchdown,
but you can pick her right where he like,
he pushes off the, the, the,
it was way more of the back of the offensive lineman and like,
like pushes off the back of him shifts over and then tosses deep
on it.
It looked almost exactly the same as that.
It was eerily similar.
It was way more of a, like a real push-off in this game though.
Like he like shit, like push himself back a yard and then he
did give himself the space to fucking huck it.
Yeah.
So, but after all that,
the pages are up seven, six in the first quarter.
And the Titans have just gone free and out because McNair got
sacked on third down and the sacks in this game of McNair,
I want to put air quotes around because basically he would just
be coming and fall over.
Like there was a free Russia.
He's just like, no, I'm not, not going to.
No, he's too country strong.
You know, he's a,
McNair is a fucking beast.
He's like, you know what?
I'm going to take a nap right here.
Hang on real quick.
Re-watching these Titans games makes me not regret my Titans
fandom at all.
They were the, they were the best.
You were a big fan of them.
But let's be real.
The Tom Brady passing effort was only like incompetent to the
run game because they sent the end of the game with like 163
yards, right?
Yeah.
It was, it was an absolute beat down in that.
Titans this year were the number one Russian defense in the NFL.
They only gave up a hundred yards.
So like 10% of their entire rushing yards came in this game.
Yeah.
Which is crazy.
And I think they had said that the only other loss that they had
was so far on the season up to this point was against the Colts,
who also ran the ball down their throat,
but everybody else couldn't.
Yeah.
They just went seven carries.
Yeah.
We had 163,
161 and three touchdowns on the ground.
Bananas.
They gave up 1.26 to Fred at the Jags.
And then again,
Adrian got him with 116.
Damn.
Yeah.
Nobody on the Patriots actually had over a hundred yards.
The Falcons had 25 yards rushing next week.
They play the Saints.
We have 23 yards rushing.
Yeah.
So this is a good defense.
Yeah.
I mean,
and there was some big names on this team too, right?
Samari Roll.
Bullock.
Keith Bullock.
Who?
I think he's a bull bowler.
The rain, the name,
they had that Rocky Carlin,
who I'd sort of forgotten about.
Yeah.
And they had Tank.
What's his name?
Tank.
Tank Williams.
He was also, right?
Tank Williams and Rocky Bowman were their two rookies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is a solid team.
And then they had Derek Mason as the wide receiver.
Always loved him.
Mm hmm.
He was a.
Savage.
And Justin Burns.
The Dyson's on both sides of the ball.
Was Dyson actually on this team?
Yeah.
He was definitely on last year because Mason was hurt when we played him
last year.
I didn't see Kevin Dyson,
but Andre Dyson on the cornerback was playing.
Yeah, he was.
But yeah,
I think the other other Dyson's not here.
Do you hear their nickname for Tom Brady,
the Titans defense?
I vaguely,
I remember them saying it and thinking, oh, that's stupid.
What was it?
Did you write it down?
Oh yeah, I did.
The program QB.
That's right.
Not because he's like a system guy,
but because he's like a computer.
Yeah.
I guess.
He just does everything exactly right or something.
Yeah.
He's a computer back there.
I guess.
I feel like he could come up with a better adjective than program.
Makes him sound like a system quarterback, you know,
maybe that's what they're going for.
Maybe it was a backhand compliment.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Like he doesn't do anything well.
He just does everything he's supposed to.
Yeah.
Just execute Antoine.
Yeah.
I was just about to say that.
He looked like the Antoine of old.
He was running people over.
And a lot of the success, like you said,
of this team was because Antoine got going.
I mean,
finished with 16 carries for 80 yards and touchdown.
But that kind of,
I think you may have gotten hurt too,
because he just kind of like stopped showing up at the game.
Short down.
I just think he wasn't getting cloud enough, you know,
he wasn't making it cloud, you know,
let's get fucking cloud.
It was really what it was.
They just like tried a different back in there and cloud made the
most of his opportunities.
Oh, oh, you know, we need, we need.
If my cloud played in the AFL.
And there was a documentary made on it.
It could be fourth in cloud.
Oh yeah.
It could be.
You're right.
You're welcome.
Cool.
But yes.
I mean,
16 for 80 is a pretty good,
pretty good day for Antoine Smith,
especially this season.
Yeah.
I wrote a note.
I was like,
that's probably the longest run of his season.
And then like in the second quarter,
he runs a bigger one.
I was like, oh, all right.
19 yards.
Longest run of the,
of the game.
So we had a fourth in one.
On that, you know,
no man's zone to open up the second, right?
Like that first drive in the second quarter.
And the commentators, they're like, what do you like here?
He's like, I like to play action pass.
And I was like, I like to play action pass too.
And then, you know,
I was like the action pass Bill Belichick.
And you know who else like the play action pass?
The Titans.
The Titans defense.
But hey, you know,
all out Blitz and Brady rolled out to his right.
And tried to throw back to the left and just had to eat it
and got sacked on fourth and one.
It looked like there was just seven or something.
Like, like it, like the, there's just covered.
They didn't show the back end of the book.
Like whoever you're trying to get to was blanketed.
That's my guess.
It's not there. You're kind of after, you know,
it was a bad play.
We're just all the way around.
So yeah.
It wasn't like you got to kick a field goal.
It wasn't like the sack was like the worst thing you could do there.
You know, I thought.
Yeah.
But I think.
I mean, they were at the Tennessee 30.
So it still would have been more to 47 yard field goal,
which I mean, Adam and Terry, he usually hits those.
But because he missed the first one.
You know, man, I thought it was like the 40 ish.
No, I had it as debt, like close to the 30 give or take.
So it would have been like a lot of 40s,
but this is check bro.
Adam and Terry bro.
Let me see.
Let's go to the stats.
Where would we be without pro football reference on this podcast?
We would struggle mightily.
Let's see.
I want to say.
29.
The 38 yard line.
I'm ready to pass a complete.
No, pass complete for nine yards.
So they were on the 29 yard line.
For fourth and two, fourth and two on the 29 yard line.
That's a, that's a 30 year field goal.
But because he missed the first one, they went for a year.
And so that's almost call that to Mrs.
Tennessee does nothing to go three and out.
So then New England drives to the Tennessee 20 yard line.
Just so Adam military can miss yet another field goal.
So they've now been inside.
Or around the red zone.
Yeah, but let's, let's three times with no points.
We get it on our 30.
Antoine for six, Antoine for 14 Antoine for four, Antoine for 10.
Yeah.
They gave him the rock four straight times and they're on the,
the opposite side of the field and the Titans 46.
Right.
No, it's great.
But still no points out of it.
So it's still, after all this, the page is just like driving up
and down the field.
Yeah.
It's still seven, six Patriots.
And then I actually cut this as a highlight and it's going to go
on the website because even though it got called back,
it won, it was bullshit.
They got called back,
but Troy Brown's return touchdown,
which the announcers were like, that's an awful call.
Yeah.
Looking at.
What they're called.
That's garbage.
I loved it.
The best in this game.
This is the best announced game.
I've seen maybe outside of a John Madden game.
This was a good one.
Yeah.
I enjoyed, I enjoyed the announcers.
Um, yeah.
So, and that was kind of a, a big turning point in the game.
Cause this was after the, uh,
that Adam military misses second field goal.
Tennessee went three and out again.
Cause Bruce key knocked down the third down pass.
And then Brown gets a part return and catches it on like the 10,
the 10 yard line makes a couple of guys miss.
And then just basically run straight down the middle.
And the punters attempt to tackle up.
We was kind of like waved his arms out of like,
he did just like stuck out his arm.
If you just try to be like a barrier and Troy Brown was like,
right straight through it.
And that was it.
It was also the dude that tried to tackle Bethel in the fourth.
And just like, just took a terrible angle and just got straight up
out run.
So at least he like,
at least he was sort of in the way on this one.
Yeah.
Later on in the game, it's not good for him.
Such a kicker move.
Um,
but yeah.
So instead of it being a touchdown,
it gets called back and the Patriots are deep in their own territory.
Uh,
they go three and out and then they have a 20 yard punt.
And at this point,
and um,
there's a lot of like defenders around the punters feet when he lands.
And so he goes down funny and there's no call on that.
That was fine.
I like walked into him.
Yeah.
But the, the fans didn't agree with you.
Like,
even watching this fucking game.
At this point,
they went to go punt it to the Patriots.
Yeah.
It was really early like second quarter.
There's a random cheer before the.
There was.
And it happened again, like towards the fourth quarter too.
Yeah. Yeah.
We talked about that earlier on some,
cause I was watching this game waiting for that.
Well, we, yeah,
we talked about it with, um,
Brian Mori of the Patriots Hall of Fame.
That's right.
And he was talking about it.
So yeah,
this is that game where the Red Sox are playing the Oakland A's
in the ALCS, I believe.
Uh, I think it's DS, not even.
I don't even remember.
Uh, oh yeah, I think you're right. Um,
and so the Red Sox had just pulled ahead of the Oakland A's
in a game that would,
they were going to win and tie the series with them.
It's not even a fucking serious clinching.
It may have been an elimination game.
I'm not sure.
I didn't.
It was an elimination.
They were down because they won that series three,
two.
They went to advance.
And then fucking get their heart broken by Aaron.
But anyway, so.
Yeah. So fuck it.
Who even cares, right?
A wasted effort.
It should be like cheering the Patriots on.
Right. Yeah.
I mean, you're like, uh,
Daniel Graham or Richard Seymour,
I think it was more.
Yeah.
Who is fucking piss.
Yeah.
Can't believe.
We'll talk about that.
We'll talk about why.
I mean, I, the 100% agree with him.
Yeah.
I agree too.
Um,
Yeah.
So instead of Patriots being up by another touchdown,
Tennessee gets the ball at the New England 44 off the awful punt.
And then McNair hits a beautiful deep ball over Troy Brown with
Dan Cleco.
Literally in underneath his armpit,
like his helmet underneath his armpit and he's throwing this
football just like steps into it and takes a hit and gets down
to the one.
And then he finishes off the drive himself with a QB sneak
touchdown.
Country strong.
Country strong.
He's not in that sneak, dude.
He's not country strong.
Yeah.
He doesn't even like, he didn't run at it.
He just kind of like got behind his guy and just kind of like
slowly fell into the end zone.
No, it was like, it was bashed his way through, you know,
he's kind of like lean.
He's like, he's like head buddy.
I'm, you know, you remember you said those head,
but where is his little kid, which I was asking.
I have a massive,
massive five head where we just look at what each other's heads,
heads against each other and just press until one push.
Yeah.
Imagine doing that with Steven Nair.
No one's beating him.
I teach all my nieces and nephews that game, by the way.
I love that.
It's such a good game.
They love it too, especially if you pretend to lose.
They better not come at me.
They know better.
Look at this fucking thing, Andy.
That's like a six head at this point.
I've been thinking about selling billboard space on it.
You should get, yeah, you can get like,
get some magic markers and just.
No, I'm not.
To write yourself.
That too.
And just sell it.
All right.
So, all right. Yeah.
Let's, let's, uh, let's open that up as a sponsorship.
Yeah.
If somebody wants to sponsor this podcast,
Steve Brown's forehead is available for that.
That's silly.
No one's going to be able to see it.
This is an audio only medium, Andy.
You keep telling us that.
Well, yeah, it's audio only medium because.
Fucking you and your five head.
Whatever.
Right.
Um,
then right after that country strong sneak.
Is the Brady pat patty cake patty cake.
I lose the ball.
Yeah.
Drop the football.
So they go three and out again,
which also bell check is like,
he saw enough of that cause a drop light.
Cause this is like a minute left.
He's like, fuck that shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
We ain't doing this in there and do that again.
Cause like, it was like,
we had the ball and like the 20 yard lines of first,
like a minute left or whatever.
Yeah.
It was like first down,
happened, fumbles it.
No, no, no.
Nevermind.
Uh, but it's still left enough time for a Tennessee to drive to
the New England 28.
But luckily they didn't have our boy.
Craig Hendricks into, to attempt the field goal.
It was a little bit too long for.
Uh, Gary Anderson, who at this point was probably like,
what a hundred years old.
Maybe it is ancient.
He was an NFL all time leading scorer already at this point.
Yeah.
I love how he, uh,
he had the face mask,
which was just like,
get the side of the way face mask, which yeah,
but it was a single bar,
literally as low as it could go.
So it almost looked like a chin strap.
It was like a beard, Andy.
Yeah.
Except as a.
Your beard is a combination of Gary Anderson's face mask and
Kevin Fox.
Fuckin.
Yes.
Chin cover.
That's exactly right.
That's actually what I was going for.
So I'm glad somebody finally got it.
It's taken years for somebody to understand it.
So I'm glad it was you, Steve.
Before we get to this field goal miss.
I want to call out Derek Mason.
But don't.
No.
He like right on that play before it,
when they're inside the 10 or whatever on the 20 or I forget
where it was like third and 10,
and he has an awesome play where he's like,
I sort of got to get out of the ball with the hash marks and
fights his way out of bounds and dives the first down and they
don't give it to him.
That's true.
And his fourth down forces them to kick.
I didn't think these reps had a great game.
They are great.
They were they love throwing flags for like nothing going on
either.
There's so much.
I'll start though.
I don't know.
There's there's so many easy ones too.
It was true.
It was true but like there was a bunch of.
I don't know.
That miss field goal.
I've never seen this before.
Do you see how it hit exactly flush hit it square and came
straight back.
Yeah.
I lost side of the ball for a while.
I did it.
I was like, where did it go?
Yeah.
Where the ball go.
I've never seen.
Wow.
Hit a goal post as flush as that.
It's always bounces one way or the other.
Yeah.
No, that Gary Anderson is just that good.
He's that accurate that you can hit it flush square on.
It's like me kicking penalties and soccer.
I can find the goal post with scary accuracy.
Cause I'm England 13, 7 at the half something like that.
13, 7 Titans at the half.
Yes.
It doesn't feel like that though.
Because we have two Adam very tight miss field goals.
They had one as well.
They're Troy Brown pun return called back, you know, there's.
The Brady getting sacked on fourth down.
Yeah.
They had scoring opportunities.
Yeah.
Like I said, miss connections.
Yeah.
All right.
Sure.
No Craigslist on you.
But that's, that's why you look at that scoring.
Like that first half wasn't very entertaining,
but it was incredibly entertaining.
Yeah.
There's a lot going on.
It just 20 points being scored.
It was.
That's pretty.
Pretty ridiculous.
And just to kind of throw a teaser out there.
When McNabb,
McNabb, Jesus McNair hit that deep ball.
To the one year outline.
It was Troy.
Ty long coverage and he was came up limping.
No.
Troy Brown.
Living the entire game.
Ty law.
Law is that's my second note is law is still limping because he
got hurt last.
No, two weeks ago.
Yeah.
Cause even the announcers knows like they,
they should probably pick on him.
He looks like he's limping and then,
but as soon as the play started, it disappeared.
He's been limping this entire game.
It's been actually kind of crazy to watch.
Well, we'll get to that.
So now we have the.
Second half where.
Literally every drive ends in a score.
Like we talked about.
Oh, before that, though, I want to point out that.
Right around this time they showed.
The Patriots banner.
The championship banner.
Just the one.
What are you doing?
How weird that is.
Yeah, it was.
It looked very empty.
Just having the only was it one.
It was before they had to expand the space to put all the extras.
Right.
So it's just like one kind of like fluttering the breeze by
itself up in the.
Like the walkway that they have going up.
It's like,
it would be like going to the Boston garden and seeing just like
one Celtics championship banner hanging up, you know,
just all by itself.
It would be such a strange sight nowadays.
It was, it was very weird to see. Yeah.
I love when I go to the Caps games.
Actually, now they at least have one, but like, I don't know.
They just have like the bullets.
Made it to the, you know,
Eastern Conference bottles.
It'd be like going to Indianapolis.
And then I'd say Mia.
That's just one amc finalists banner.
Oh my God.
I can't believe they did that.
Can't wait to get to that game.
I can relive that memory.
I can't wait.
There's going to be a bunch of this.
Yes.
Yeah.
We've got, we've got,
do you remember when we used to watch a Patriots losses on this
podcast?
Yeah.
It was one last week.
Yeah.
I don't remember.
Isn't,
I feel like there's one more to come.
No.
Not for a while, Steve.
Oh,
you've got another first of the whole,
you've got another 21 games before you have to suffer.
So this is the first of the 21 game streak.
22 games streak.
22.
Stat check.
It's 21 straight.
They lost the 22nd game.
Should we call Greg and have him stat check it?
Do it.
Just ask him.
Oh boy.
He's not going to pick up.
I don't know why you're talking on the phone.
Oh, he definitely won't pick up,
especially if he knows it's you.
That can block my number.
Maybe we can call him from the
the hotline.
I don't know.
I don't know if he has that phone number.
I'll leave him a voicemail.
Okay.
Yeah.
Just.
Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice message
system.
Nine.
One.
Nine.
Oh, now he's going to know.
We may have to bleep this part.
Whoops.
You should have set up a voicemail message.
Greg.
Hi, Gregory.
This is your doctor.
We have your test results back.
And you are going to need to call us immediately.
You have a big infection from all the semen in your butthole.
All right.
Thank you.
How often do you leave a message like that?
Did you hear this is why?
Oh God.
This is your doctor speaking.
I went over the records and the test and it appears you have an
infection in your anus from all the sperm that was accumulating
there.
Call me back.
You can't because we're going to replace your butthole.
Brotherly love.
I'm going to call you back.
I'm going to call you back.
I'm going to call you back.
I'm going to call you back.
I'm going to call you back.
How do you replace a butthole, I wonder?
I was like an expense.
I couldn't remember the ending of it when I was doing it live in
Spirio.
Speaking of buttholes.
But actually, let's stat check that because I'm at longest
winning streak.
21 games.
Is it 21?
Yeah.
Is that including playoffs though?
Yeah.
This says the Indianapolis Colts for the longest regular season
winning streak in NFL history.
But they lost in the playoffs.
That doesn't really count.
How many games is that?
23 regular season wins.
Who the fuck is a regular season wins?
Marty Schottenheimer.
Wait.
It's 2021 total games in a row because they lost in the playoffs.
I have entirely postseason games.
Patriots are top of that.
Just two pages of win streak.
I always feel that some bullshit about how NFL stats are regular
season and postseason split.
Yeah, it's stupid.
So I was like, oh, Drew Brees has the most passing yards in NFL
history.
And like he's actually like 10,000 behind.
If not, it's harder to be better.
Oh, well, in fairness, just it doesn't count because Tom Brady
plays more playoff games than Drew Brees.
How is that Tom Brady?
Oh, exactly.
Don't get me started Steve.
Yeah, ding the dude on that.
It's garbage.
People just kind of use whatever they can use.
Their guy looked better.
Bunch of haters.
And what we do is we just count all the numbers.
Problem solved.
You know what the Charlie Weiss used in this game was that fake
the handoff, fake the reverse, then throw the screen back to
the reverse direction.
Speaking of taking too much time in the goddamn pocket.
Brady got lit up every time.
They tried it once on the in the first quarter and it didn't
work at all.
But like if it hadn't been thrown, if it was like Kevin Falk,
which where was he in this game?
He was hurt.
That's why the fumble last week.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
Just come off his instant touchdown and the rest instead
we're throwing to Antoine Smith.
Mr. Brickhands.
They came right back to it and they got a good 15 year chunk out
of it.
But yeah, Brady's got blown up on both.
Brady paid for it both times because yeah, the defensive
lineages didn't fall for it whatsoever.
Whoever that guy was on the right end there.
He's steaming off and just put his helmet right in Brady's
chest.
You know who like sort of popped in this game.
And similar to get fucking cloud.
Larry centers.
I didn't think he popped.
I thought he was.
It's the most you've seen of him so far, but I think it's only
because they're throwing that ball to Larry centers, you know,
I think the second one they did, didn't they?
No, it was Antoine.
That was it.
But like, I never thought a fullback can catch a ball like that.
And then you look at like Larry centers career.
And it's just insane.
Tell you man, Larry centers.
He didn't really play as a fullback.
But he did like.
Yeah, he was he was the one out there on the goal line situations
because usually when you put your fullback.
No, they had Dan.
I mean, obviously, if you have Dan.
You don't see fucking defensive linemen coming in for
Devlin ever.
You get Devlin in there and he fucking plows the way.
Me.
Those Mike Rabel did that all the time.
Not when we had an actual fullback.
He didn't.
All right.
Rable is a tight end.
He had more catches or receptions.
I mean, rushes or receptions.
Receptions.
827 centers.
Yeah.
Yeah, he was like he led.
He led the NFL.
He had like the NFL record of receptions by a running back.
827 and he had 615 carries.
So the dude's actually a tight end is what you're saying.
I feel that like back then, though, you know,
that's tough to tough to pull off nowadays, maybe,
maybe more so, but this is like a run first era.
Well, who's the the fullback for the 49ers use check?
Yeah, he might he might break that record of receptions by a fullback.
He's pretty good in space.
He's got some good hands on him.
He had 6800 yards, 28 touchdowns receiving.
God damn.
Yeah.
The Larry centers.
Yeah.
He spent most of his time with the Cardinals too.
He was on the Phoenix Cardinals.
The Phoenix Cardinals of all two.
How do you spell use check?
You just hit the keyboard with your face a couple times and Google figured out.
I just put Kyle's us, us, us kick.
Just do 49ers fullback and.
No, they're not.
Kyle.
Up there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just do 49er pullback.
Man, this whole episode has just been you fucking stat check and shit.
This is awful.
No, I'm sorry.
We need fucking Greg.
J U S Z C Z Y K.
Obviously, Steve.
I can't believe you can't spell use check.
He only has 198 touchdowns.
Yeah.
But he also was only drafted in 2013.
So there he's got plenty of time to catch.
There's played nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 years.
This is his last year.
He's gonna fullbacks though.
Patriots first drive, the second half.
All Antoine Smith.
All fullback.
All run plays.
Finish off with Antoine.
One yard touchdown.
Well, I should bring it back to fullbacks because.
Dan Cleco.
Jack only has 32 carries to 190 receptions.
This is what I'm saying.
Larry Sanders at 615 to 827 is closer to one to one.
Is it though?
It's closer than 32 to 190.
I mean, yeah, I don't understand what your point is.
That Larry Sanders was a unicorn.
You're a unicorn.
And I didn't even realize he was on the Patriots before
rewatching all these games.
Oh, really?
I vaguely remembered that.
I don't remember him at all.
But I remember him mostly from his time with the Phoenix Cardinals.
That's just out so stupid, doesn't it?
Phoenix Cardinals.
Phoenix Cardinals are four years, 1990 to 93.
Yeah.
Stupid.
Just stupid.
Yeah.
Speaking of fullbacks, Dan Cleco.
With the new stat, the fullback assist.
Where his block sprung the touchdown.
The first one, Antoine, I think it did.
He doubled teams.
However, that defensive lineman was, they showed it on replay.
They were very excited.
But as you would be, in fact, guy on the defense blocking,
you got to appreciate that.
And I feel like Tuan deserved that touchdown, you know?
He had done so much work up to this point in this game.
I agree.
But I feel like that was the last you saw of him too.
Yeah.
I kind of wonder if you got hurt because I think
Mike Cloud is featured for the next couple of games.
He comes in later that quarter.
Yeah.
I guess we'll have to tune in to find out.
Yeah, I'll figure out next week, but I think he may have gotten hurt on this.
Antoine did.
Maybe not on that play, but within the next,
before the end of the next patient's drive anyway.
You who definitely got hurt was that tight end on the Titans.
Oh my God.
They might get hurt on the drive.
Like they throw a little out that little screen pass.
They faked the run.
And he gets a good 10, 15 yards and then Rodney Harrison comes out.
That was a pretty clean hit.
But, holy shit, I think their heads also collided,
but it was Rodney Harrison full steam ahead into a large tight end.
Who is also full steam ahead.
And that tight end got the worst of it.
Usually when you see that happen, like both guys take a little while to get up.
Rodney Harrison popped back up and was jawing the entire like until the next play started.
He like and then like immediately went into a role and then he's a role to pop up.
And then they show his face.
He was like grinning and smiling.
And I like does anybody truly enjoy hitting people like he does?
He seems joyful about it out there.
Yeah.
But even then, like back then, can you think of anybody who had the joy of hitting people like he did?
Yeah, I'm sure there are some dudes back then.
Who's that safety on the 49ers for a long time?
Oh, Ronnie lot.
Yeah.
Didn't he cut off his pinky or something?
Wasn't that him?
Loved hitting people.
Let's be real.
That's true.
Yeah.
But like Harrison may have been like the last one of that breed, though.
There were a couple plays by Harrison in this where I was like, that was a good clean hit.
You know, there's there's some plays by him as well.
Or like he actually missed Derek Mason on one where he just like he just jumps over him.
Like a fucking like his arms are like flat like an airplane.
And he's just leading with his head and he just like a literal missile.
Yeah.
And the paper gets his head down.
The commentators like congratulate him for getting his head down.
And I was like not getting it taken off.
Like what the fuck, you know?
Oh, yeah.
But like there was somewhere.
McNair was he went.
He was running and he got dragged down for like a couple of years.
Okay.
It was basically a sack.
And right at the end you saw.
Yeah.
Ronnie has to come in just like crush him right in the back.
Like a borderline.
I haven't heard a commentator say, oh, that's a good clean hit.
Cause they weren't even thinking about hits in terms of like clean and dirty.
I guess unless it was like absolutely ridiculous, dirty,
they would call it out, but they weren't thinking of like.
Now we do nowadays of like, yeah, he led with like that hit on the tight end.
It was a clean hit.
He came in with his shoulder.
He didn't leave with his head and the other head together a little bit.
Just the way they met at the sideline like that.
But it wasn't trying to hang a little bit.
But then later on the game,
he fucking lunged himself like a fucking missile.
Yeah.
Misses.
And I think he also, he did connect on one of those.
I think it,
I think it was Mason caught the ball and he was being dragged down by somebody
else and.
No, he got the shoulder.
Yeah, but he's still like this.
In this day and age,
that probably would have been a defensive receiver penalty.
Oh, for sure.
I was just more about did Harrison like leave the crown of his helmet.
And you know, those are always like the super dirty ones where you're not even
looking, you're just fucking.
Yeah.
With your head.
Yeah.
No, he didn't really do that,
but he definitely was looking to lay the lumber pretty much every time.
And I think it's because he enjoyed hitting people.
Can we get back to how let's get fucking cloud?
Because his running total should have been a little bit.
Higher.
Because his first run for like five yards.
Got called back.
It did.
I don't remember that.
Like a hole or something like that.
Cause I haven't even like cloud the ball carrier.
Didn't count.
Second run.
He busts it for 17 yards.
I was like, all right, let's go.
Yeah, that's right.
And he finished off that drive with the touchdown.
Yeah.
Another full black assist on that one.
Right.
That's correct.
I'm gonna give it to you.
Yeah.
That's the end of the third ish.
Yeah.
So, so we've had those two short touchdown runs.
And in between that was Tennessee hitting a big play and then kicking
another field goal.
So it's now 21, 16 patriots going into the fourth quarter,
which I just like to remind people.
It's 21, 16 going into the fourth quarter.
This game ended 38 to 30.
So we still have.
Some points to score.
And it wouldn't really.
Didn't really take off at the beginning of the fourth quarter either
because times are driving and get inside the New England 30,
but still can't get in the end zone.
So they kick yet another field goal.
So it's now 21, 19.
So they close in the gap and then the Patriots,
my cloud breaks off a huge run.
Rear long five yards.
Yeah.
Was it?
You think it's a career along?
Oh, I looked it up.
I'm on my cloud.
I was going to say, even if you did not,
I was going to go with that because I don't think my clouds
busting off something bigger than 45 yards.
It is a great run.
It was, it was fine.
But it wasn't his best run of the day.
We'll get there.
No, because like he just kind of like ran to the left and then
the entire right side of the field just vacated.
So he just turned and looked and went, oh, okay.
And just ran that way for 45 yards.
He also like used his blockers well to get this many yards
as he could, you know, he did.
Um, but the pages don't do much after that.
They like drove, you know, inside the red zone ish.
Um, and then they tried.
No, what's my favorite?
That fucking screen pass touchdown walk in like,
that's what I was going to say. Yeah.
But this was, this was a different screen pass than the one
you're talking about, like where they.
Correct.
Faked the handoff,
faked the end around and then throw the screen.
Everyone's flowing one way.
Yeah.
This was the, this was the throwback screen,
which the chiefs actually use against the Patriots in that AFC
championship game, if you remember,
but it's that one where everybody runs to the right side and
then Brady turns around just like chucks it back to the left,
basically blind.
Um, and this was to Larry Sanders and he literally would have
walked in from 20 yards out.
Except 690, whatever it catches.
He got, he got blocked and fell over catches.
He got blocked to the ground.
So he had to like pick himself up.
And so he wasn't in the correct position.
They showed it after the fact.
And, uh, so he couldn't quite get to it,
but it bounced off his hand.
So yeah,
he should have been already got him.
So the page is settled for a field goal.
So it's still like,
not the worst drop of the game either.
We'll get to that.
No, but it's, it's, uh, it's a close game still.
The Patriots up by six at this point.
Um, and so 10,
but Tennessee's like kind of barely hanging on.
Like this is where McNair goes into dragging this team down
the field.
I'll buy his fucking self cause he's getting it.
The Patriots are getting pressure on pretty much every play.
They're, they're getting hits on him.
He's having to throw the ball away like every other play just to
survive.
He's running for his life.
But, um,
he managed to drag them all the way down the field.
And then scores himself on a touchdown run,
which was great.
And this is where Steve, the crowd cheers.
And this is probably what pissed off Richard Seymour.
Let's back it up just a little bit.
Back it up for me, baby.
One play back that.
You know,
two plays back that ass up.
Actually,
no more than that.
Let's go a little bit further back.
Oh,
back at all.
Cause there's the, there is the.
Receiver on the Titans.
I don't remember this guy.
Justin Calico.
Yeah, no idea who he is.
Neither do I.
But he had that one sweet play where he's tiptoeing down the
catwalk.
Yep.
Okay.
And then I didn't catch that in real time,
but they actually said that, didn't they?
Yeah.
This is the point where they, uh,
that's brutal.
They figured that,
that mismatch on him and Eugene.
Cause the dude's pretty tall.
He's got to be six, four, six, five.
And Eugene's like, as we all know, five, 10 or whitish.
Yeah.
Not a big,
he's just too tall for him.
And they have that in breaking right on the,
they're on the three or four yard line at the in breaking route.
And he's just too big for Eugene to get around.
He's in a good position, but the guy's just wait,
and it hits him right in the chest.
And he just straight, just drops it.
Yeah.
Then they have a run play with.
Stevie.
Yep.
And Matt Chatham comes off the linebacker,
Blitz off the end, Sheds are back and he's just trying to chase
down Steve McNair.
I'm like, oh, he's got him.
And he didn't.
No.
And actually.
Country strong.
McNair scores on that play.
He was in this country strong.
He was country fast.
He just outran Chatham.
He kind of did,
but he was close,
but he got the,
Steve,
you got to chat him,
dive for the legs and Steve McNair just didn't even notice.
Yeah.
And I, and on the replay, you can kind of,
you can see pretty clearly that he scores a touchdown.
He.
Yeah.
I've touched as the pile on, but they call him out.
Yeah.
They call him out the one.
And then fucking Fisher can't find his buzzer to challenge it.
Oh, that's right.
It was like fourth down.
I think.
I think.
So.
This is the same Jeff Fisher.
That coached the.
Rams when the Rams came to us.
I think it was like Jargos first year.
Remember when they moved to LA and they had that whole.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
They came to us and I'm pretty sure we'll get to this at some
point, but I'm pretty sure in that game,
Jeff Fisher also couldn't challenge a play because he couldn't
find the red flag in all of his pockets.
So he's sitting there like,
he's got like three guys trying to help him like go through all
the pockets in his big puffy jacket to try and find the red flag.
So we can throw it out on the field.
Look, everyone shits on bell chat.
We're keeping it in a sock, but.
He always knows where it is.
Yeah.
He's always quick to pull it out and chuck it.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So Jeff Fisher.
It might have been fourth down.
I don't know.
Was it?
I don't think it was.
Oh, maybe it was fourth there.
No, I don't think this one was fourth down yet.
That was a different play either way.
Similar country boy strong quarterback sneak.
You're not denying.
Stevie McNair on the goal line from the.
Oh, no, I think you're right.
I think it was for it though.
Yeah.
So, so zooming near falls into the end zone.
Again,
for his second touchdown run of the game.
Yeah.
And at this point,
they decided to go for two to make it.
I don't even know.
I've lost track of the scores right now.
And they go up to go up by three.
So there's 25,
24 after they scored the touchdown.
So two point conversion makes a field goal game.
Yeah.
So it's 27, 24.
Titans at this point.
Well, they run that same play.
The dude just dropped it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the time he doesn't.
Yeah.
It was actually a hard to throw like McNair over through the guy
by like a foot and a half and he went up and got it.
It's a hard to catch over Eugene again, which was tough.
So yeah.
All right.
This is where.
Richard Seymour is rightfully pissed because I don't know if you caught
this or not.
We are all waiting for that cheer when they scored that when Stevie
scores a touchdown.
Did you hear them shoot the muskets?
No, I missed that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They shot the muskets off.
Oh, that's a bad look.
No, isn't that terrible?
That's a bad look.
Like, yeah, I thought you scored.
Okay.
Not a good look.
I missed that part.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So the Red Sox had one.
Yeah.
They had, they had, I think they had won the game.
Yeah.
But there's like four and a half minutes left in this game and it's
looking like.
The Red Sox is going to be the only winners on the day.
Yeah.
And yeah.
But.
We've already touched on this earlier when we're doing our.
One hit wonders of the game.
Bethel Johnson takes the ensuing kickoff 71 yards.
Outrunning the punter yet again.
He's, he's now Olaid two people.
This time it's Bethel Johnson instead of Troy Brown.
This one does count.
And the, the announcers actually said something along the lines of,
uh, this is, it's great to see a long kick return with no flags on
it because it was happening on both sides of the ball for the
Titans as well.
Like every kick returns getting called back.
I felt like, so the pages start at the Tennessee 30,
which is pretty impressive.
Uh, but they kind of struggled the page's offense here.
Find themselves in third and 18 after I think another Brady
sack, probably.
He has a run for no gain.
And then yeah,
sack where he's just petty cake in the ball again.
Yeah.
See, he's drew blood sewing his way backwards down the field.
Um,
and so it's third and 18.
And Brady just throws a quick.
Like, uh, like that quick hitter that he does when he sees that the,
the defensive back is off the wide receiver.
So he just chucked it to branch because the receivers,
like 10 yards off of them, which on third and 18, that's fine,
except Dion branch breaks that tackle and goes for 23,
24 yards, I think on third and 18.
And obviously the Patriots are trying to like,
just set up an easier field goal for military to tie the game,
but that sets them up like what inside the 10 ish,
like around the 10 give or take 10,
15 yard line.
This is the second.
I thought the other one was third and 18.
But there was a second and 18 in the red zone right before the
Antoine Smith.
First touchdown.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Dion branch as well.
Where are you fucking?
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
But he plays patty cake too long actually.
And then still managed to throw the ball.
Yeah.
That's the one where he almost got caught from behind again.
Yep.
So this is a bit of play.
We're just dumping to him and let him make a play.
If he doesn't make the play, you kick the field goal.
If he doesn't make the play shit, we're in business.
Right.
And he did.
You got 23 yards on third and 18.
And now all of a sudden they're like, huh?
Branch looked a little hurt as well.
He did.
He looked like he was taking a while to get off the ground every time
he got tackled.
There's a lot of gutty performance.
Yeah.
This was a great play.
Yeah.
So now it's first and 10 on the, on the 15.
And this I think is probably the,
the run you were alluding to earlier from my club is his best of the day.
His best run of his life.
This, like when, when he did it, I actually did the,
the Chris Berman whoop.
When he made a couple of his cuts,
double of them because he broke two guys.
That's what I did.
Yeah.
It was amazing.
So he,
the defensive end comes crashing in.
No one blocks him.
Yep.
And by like,
he just a little over pursues.
So he gets the handoff and the dude's kind of right in front of him.
He cuts left and the guy goes right.
Left trigger.
And so then he's like,
he's into like the, the linebacker area and the safety.
He comes up and he just jukes that dude out of his fucking shoes.
Yeah.
I think it could have gone for 80.
I think it could have gone for 99 yards.
If they'd been on the one yard line,
because there's nobody else catching them.
And he was a pretty fast.
Yeah.
And he literally just walked in the end zone.
Yeah.
He beat, he beat two guys and like you're gone.
You break two tackles on a run game.
I feel like you're getting a huge gainer.
And that would have been to the end zone.
And it was to the end zone, 15 yards.
On the very next round,
and it was to the end zone, 15 yards on the very next play from the
third and 18.
So, uh, pages now kick after kicking X point up 31 27.
We've got ourselves a ball game because that shit happens so fast too.
It was like, well, that's what I'm saying.
The Titan score positive, a 70 yard kick return.
Yeah.
We had negative two yard run a negative six yard sack,
a positive fucking 25 yard, third and 18 conversion,
and then a fucking speed angle breaker.
Well, like I was saying, like,
we came into this fourth quarter with the score 21 16 Patriots.
Yeah.
And it ends 38 30.
Like we're just, yeah,
we're just go back and forth down the field.
It's your head spinning a little bit.
Yeah.
And it looked like it was the, um,
the Titans were coming straight back down the field.
McNair on one of the first plays,
it's a big play to get to midfield.
Yeah.
And they're trying to kind of get another play in right before the
two minute warning to give themselves some time.
And Steve McNair makes his biggest mistake of the game.
Where he tries to throw a quick out to who the fuck cares.
Um,
he just happened to be covered by tie law.
And I don't know what happens when you fight the lawsuit,
but what I fought the law.
That's right.
The one legged law one tie law pick six from about the 50 yard
line.
And this is when the game was officially over.
It's the best because you can see him returning it.
And then you see him like doing the look behind, you know,
as he's running it.
It was actually very similar to the, uh,
Super Bowl with the Rams.
Same out cut law breaks on the inside.
He broke so quickly on that too.
And like,
as soon as he sees that he's sort of alone, he starts limping.
Yeah.
Wait, wait.
Are you hurt?
Are you not?
Because that break was explosive and oh my God.
Super athletic and everything up to that point.
Look like you're fine.
Exactly.
Okay.
I don't need to like make this hurt anymore.
I'm just going to live these last five yards.
And he did.
He limped his way on the end zone.
He limped his way on the end zone.
He limped his way on the end zone.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Greg,
Greg definitely didn't watch this game,
but he should because this is an all time tie law.
Yeah.
Cause that wasn't the only play he had another one of those.
He please been playing in the game.
I think in the first quarter, maybe where he broke on another
ball like that and just like dove and got his hand in the way.
Like this was textbook tie law,
but he would like play awesome and then limp around and then play
the play awesome.
It was like an incredibly gutty performance by the tie.
It was.
Yeah.
It was a great,
a great,
a great performance by a lot of guys in this layer.
Like I said,
a lot of gutty performance is happening here because I think
there was a lot of people who were heart and we're like tweaking
things and still like there's so many, like I said,
there's so many one hit wonder names in this game and they're
playing a really good Titans team who,
how would the Titans do this year?
They made the playoffs, I think, right?
Oh, they did.
Cause we'll see them again.
Yeah.
Titans will finish 12 and four.
They lost four games this year, obviously.
Two to the Colts and two to the AFC East.
This game.
And then they lose again to the Jets later in the season.
So this was a,
that was about all she wrote.
McNair actually does still brings him back down the field again.
Like as they threw for 360 fucking yards.
And then they also had.
What was like.
Yeah.
But then they also did a hook and ladder,
which I think was kind of a garbage miss call.
Because the guy was supposed to catch it and then lateral it to,
you know,
it looked like he was either down or he didn't complete the
cash.
Yeah.
He didn't actually really fully catch the ball.
He's kind of like caught it.
But at like in the process of catching kind of like shot,
put it into the guy,
but it bounced like it hit the ground.
So everybody's like, Oh, this is obviously incomplete,
but that this,
the Titans guy picked it up and kept running anyway.
And they didn't blow the play dead.
So we're like, Oh fuck.
Rodney Harrison,
because he plays to the whistle.
Exactly.
I'm going to say the only person who chased that motherfucker dad was
like, Oh hell no, I don't even care if it was a whistle.
I want to hit somebody and he did.
And he saved a touchdown.
And because of that,
the Titans had to settle for field goal.
It's 38 30.
And there's what like 40 seconds left.
I think something like that.
I'll give the announcers even more,
one last little bit of cred that he made a Red Sox reference to
whatever had happened in the Red Sox Oakland athletics game
recently.
Did he?
Yeah.
I don't know exactly.
Oh, we did. Yeah.
Oh, something about someone rounding second or something like
that.
That was a Roberts rounding third because I,
if I recall in the Oakland is game,
he rounded third and they were having a lot of issues with
base running in that series because whoever the third base coach
was kept like getting the call wrong and like either sending the
guy when he shouldn't or holding him when he shouldn't.
And so I think he kind of like didn't get the call in long
enough, quick enough.
So Robert's like rounded third and didn't go all the way and
kind of like hesitated before going and then got thrown out the
plate or something like that.
Either way,
I love the answers because they even did the whole after the
fucking musket guy shot their fucking load everywhere.
Like,
I guess we should walk into baseball.
Everyone has been watching the baseball game.
They do and like, well, man,
everyone who's watching that Tennessee Titans beat the
Minnesota Vikings.
This is the recap.
So he fucking is like, well,
welcome everybody to watch the baseball game here.
Just switch over.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah, that was great.
And then just to end this Christian Fourier recovers the
unsized kick.
And that was all she wrote.
Patriots walk away with a game where they had like nobody left
and still went toe to toe,
putting up 38 points on one and 160 rushing yards on the best
rushing defense in the league.
Yeah.
Yeah, this was I think one of my favorite pages games we've
watched in a long time.
Yeah.
So far.
It's nice.
This is how the whole street starts because this is a game
that easily could have lost a few times,
but they kept battling back,
battling through adversity.
And there was just a lot of a lot of great plays on this.
A lot of highlight plays that you can rewatch.
And it was one of those games where I didn't really remember
either, you know,
right?
Oh yeah.
There's nothing much of this at all.
Like none of these plays and like, oh, that's right.
I had no idea who Mike a cloud was until I watched this game
over again.
No.
He sees where you put all your data.
Thanks, Steve.
No.
Yeah.
In the cloud, bro.
In the cloud.
You put your data in the cloud.
All right.
Best of worst, Steve.
What do you got?
There is.
We haven't left.
We haven't talked about best to pick from.
Obviously Troy Brown's sick as TD.
Oh, they didn't do much else.
No.
My clouds breakout game tie law being super gritty and gutty.
The branch Jarvis green showing up for the first time.
There was one.
Actually, I'm going to go left field for you.
I'm going to put the announcers as the number one positive,
but this is a spin off of them.
They called out Jeff Fisher for every time a player of his gets
hurt, he goes on the field.
That's right.
Yeah.
And I was like, that's awesome.
And it's, I don't, I don't think any other coaches do that.
I haven't seen any coaches really do that.
Yeah.
That's what they were saying that he was the only one.
Yeah.
In the epitome of mediocrity, you know,
that's true.
You got to respect that a little bit.
Yeah.
And then the worst.
It was probably the miss kicks by Venetary, you know,
one of them.
I can totally understand and like, yeah, here it is.
Yeah.
Finally broke that streak, whatever,
but then he follows it up with that second one.
And if you make both of those,
this game was probably a little bit different, you know,
when they were up.
Yeah.
Well, 11 would have been,
would have been more comfortable.
15 or 18, you know,
an absolute blow out if he makes those.
Yeah.
And they may have kicked an extra field goal.
And so they're trying to go from fourth down there too,
that they failed.
So there's also a sneaky other good one.
They showed a highlight of the chiefs game.
Yeah.
With Johnny Morton,
which also the touchdown grow back.
And then he does the worm.
He sure does.
And a fucking amazing worm.
All the announcers call it the wave.
Well,
well, one of them called it the way I don't know who it was,
but one of them called it the wave.
The other one called it the body wave.
Dude,
it looks more like a wave than a worm.
I'm a hundred percent in on the wave.
I want to call that the wave going forward.
I don't know.
There's gotta be.
Body wave or nothing.
Body wave,
the human wave.
I don't care what you call it.
It's not a fucking worm.
Kind of worm,
like the inchworm maybe moves like that,
but that thing, you know, it's like, you know, it's different.
It's different.
That is a wave.
Can you do the worms?
No,
you're the body wave.
I can't do the body wave either.
See, you strike me as I've seen you at.
Stop waving at me.
I've seen you at weddings on the day.
I've seen you at weddings on the day.
I've seen you at weddings on the day.
And you strike me as the type of guy who could pull off the
worm.
Well, look, Andy, the dance moves.
Choose me.
I don't choose the dance moves.
The wave hasn't chosen me.
And I don't think the wave will ever choose me.
I don't know.
I.
I find that hard to believe.
I think the wave will eventually choose you at some point in
your life.
I just don't think it will, but we never know.
I'll just have to keep dancing and find out.
Yes.
I agree 100% with all of that.
Yeah.
What do you got for best and worse?
All right.
I got a couple.
Last things we haven't talked about.
This is kind of probably best for the Patriots,
worse for the Titans.
They showed a couple of stats in the first quarter where.
The Titans hadn't allowed a first quarter touchdown in the last
10 games.
Dating back to a Steelers game the previous season.
On a Sunday.
And it was,
I don't know.
I don't know.
And they also showed a stat where it had been seven games since
New England had scored a first quarter touchdown.
I'm going to flash you back to this here.
Great.
A little bit.
Here in 2020, scoring touchdowns.
And what happened, but what happened though?
Tom Brady hits Troy Brown,
deep 58 yards touchdown.
And they also showed a stat where it had been seven games since
New England had scored a first quarter touchdown.
Tom Brady hits Troy Brown,
deep 58 yards touchdown in the first quarter.
So both of those streaks could put.
Right at the end.
A minute left.
Yep.
Okay.
Still counts, baby.
Who better to break that than Troy?
Yeah.
Um,
I'm watching that highlight over and over again.
It's the only one in your sight.
I'll have some more for you.
It's a great highlight though.
I don't need more.
That throw was perfect.
Like Brady dropping right in the bucket.
Justin in the air by Troy.
Yep.
Oh, it was perfect.
One of those over your head ones, you know,
the yelling at sea as soon as it.
Here's your head.
And it just,
and it just cleared it perfectly.
Um,
I think we should give another shout out to Craig Hendritch,
the punter who's kicking field goals and kickoffs.
I thought the dude made the pro ball.
So good for him.
I didn't know.
And I will give you one more shout out for the commentators just
because we love them.
Uh,
they pointed out that drew Bennett.
The receiver of the Titans.
Was a QB at UCLA.
Who is now there.
I put down leading wide receiver,
but he wasn't.
He was the third receiver behind Mason and McCarrons,
but a gritty white wide receiver who used to play quarterback
in college.
That sounds familiar.
He's different.
Maybe we'll discover one of our own.
He is a bigger dude.
But yeah, I get what you're saying.
Yeah.
Similar pass.
He played at UCLA.
You see.
I'm just,
I just,
how do we get Dan DeGrodoff all time and not Gus Johnson?
These guys, right?
Brent Jones.
Yeah, Brent Jones and Gus Johnson.
They were awesome.
Yep.
I, uh, I enjoyed them.
They made the game so much better.
It was already a great game and they made the game a lot better.
Yep.
And so because of that, I think what we'll do is we'll end it the
way we kind of started it.
Okay.
And when you say seven and when you say full of everybody,
that's just a little goose.
He's just going to go up and goose the center and he just,
he sees the hole right inside and you see him just lean forward.
Big hole up inside.
You don't necessarily call that in the huddle.
You just get up there and you say, Hey, there's a big opening.
I'm going to goose my center and get right on his tailbone.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Do you hear the other guy laugh as soon as he does the first goose?
Because you know that this is going.
You know, it's going up territory.
I left you.
Yeah, I can't help it.
Oh, great pairing.
No, no football, not football has been more clearly not football
than them talking about arm and contains feet.
Oh my God.
That was brutal.
But now I think Brent Jones, if I recall from the 2001 season,
Brent Jones was the one who Mike Mello would get most of his quotes
from.
I love that.
Brent Jones, very, very football, not football, quotable.
That's a great thing, I feel.
Yeah.
Unless we're able to arm and contains feet.
And then that's not even football.
It's just not football.
And I don't think that was Brent Jones.
So.
So yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So this was a definitely watchable game.
You can find it on the pages.
You can find it on the website page.
That info.
Slash game slash 87.
And you'll have YouTube.
There's a prime time highlights of this game on there.
And both, both halves.
What else?
Oh, we have our.
Patriots dynasty hotline.
If you want to call or text us, leave us a voicemail.
Leave us a text home.
See if I can remember it.
Yeah.
So let's go.
What's the next game?
We'll have the.
505.
Troy Brown.
For three.
Oh, for three.
Right.
Tray Brown playing basketball.
8043 baby.
505 8043.
603 area code because we represent.
Where that's where you live.
Yes.
All people are like, yeah, I'm from the 603 and the whole state.
You got to be a little more specific.
Yeah.
Even Massachusetts is like four or five.
Don't they?
Yeah.
Are we the only state that only has one?
Come on.
Do you think North Dakota has more Vermont?
Definitely has one.
I'm sure.
I don't even know.
Get out of here.
So yeah.
So if you have any feedback, if you have, oh, actually,
if you have anything you want to say about any of these games
to.
Well, if you, if you went to these games or any of these upcoming
games, you have notes for us, let us know.
Or if you want to shit on Greg Brown for not showing up or not
watching the games, you can feel free to do that too.
Yep.
And for that doctors issue.
Yeah. Yeah.
If you want to give him some, some heads up on that.
Or you just want to be like your doctor,
maybe your Andy's doctor and need to call him and tell him
something that he needs to.
Tested.
Or maybe you're Steve Brown and you're just going to text me that
I'm an avocado.
But it's up to you.
We are listening.
We're here again.
603 505 80 for three.
All right.
What's next week, Steve Brown?
I don't know who we playing.
Oh, next week we have the Giants at a game.
I think I may have gone to.
Really?
I'm going to have to rewatch it to find out.
But if this is a game where.
Tiki Barber fumbles a lot, then yes,
we're about to find out that there.
Yeah.
So join us next week on the pages,
Danny's podcast and we will see you then.
Yeah.