Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2004 AFC Divisional: Patriots vs Colts

Episode Date: August 2, 2022

The brothers are back talking about old football games, and this one is a good one. The white hot Colts look to avenge their past losses in Foxborough, Massachusetts on the back of their record setting QB and offense. Will Indianapolis finally be able to solve the Belichick defense, or will New England fans get to revel in Peyton Manning's misery by chanting "cut that meat" at him in yet another post season loss? Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast, as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Pages Dianese podcast, the podcast where we're going back and re-watching

every game of the dynasty era. We haven't actually done that in a while. But we are back at it today. And with me are the trusty brothers, Brown, Stephen, Greg, boys. How you doing? I'm doing great and full of pissing vinegar for this playoff. All right. It's all I had at this point, you know?

Oh, I'm beating the cults again. You know, wake me up in the Super Bowl. Well, all right. So, yeah, if you hadn't, if you weren't aware, if you have forgotten because it's been so long since we've done one of these, we are starting the 2004 playoffs with the AFC divisional round where the Colts would come to Foxborough Stadium. No, Foxborough, Massachusetts Gillette Stadium, no longer Foxborough Stadium. To play the New England Patriots, who came into the game at 14 and two.

No big deal. Colts would finish their season 12 and four. One of those losses was to this New England Patriots. The first we get a season. And after that game, they mentioned in the in this the announcers were saying that Tony Dungey said, because we lost that, we'll be playing them in January at their place. That's right. You foreshadowed this.

You sure did. Mm hmm. He was correct. But this was done something about it. That game was at Indianapolis, too. Right. No, that was a night's TV. Come on, what is better night, baby?

You're thinking of the the goal line stop game that was last year. Yeah, that's 2003. Yeah, this year was peak Peyton Manning. This was what all the the kids have forgotten when they say that. The whoever are their favorite current quarterback is is the best quarterback ever. The scariest quarterback ever.

Well, the goat, the can I get that off my chest? Goat, that whole acronym is the most overused thing in not even just forts, but in everything. I feel like it wasn't really a thing before Brady, though. It wasn't. Maybe it wasn't. Maybe Jordan started it. And then I think it came around at like the same time. People started going Brady, the goat.

And then they're like, well, Jordan's the goat. And then next thing you know, everybody under the sun is the goddamn goat. It's true. Yeah. Look at this little goat I have from Chewie still. Remember this thing, Greg? What? Why do you have that? Because, you know, me, I like keeping old shit for way too long. What significance did that have, though?

That was before this is the Tom Brady goat that we had in the minivan. I would have thought the minivan outdated that. Oh, no, this thing is definitely Chewie prime. Well, I don't know. We used to have a Plymouth Grand Voyager that was originally purple until we rattled canned it four, five, six times into different things. I think the when it died, was it still the the Green Monster?

Yeah, we we redid the Green Monster one time. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we did that one twice, I think. Why do we never do a Patriots, a goat version, you know? Yes, it's just a gosh, we're going to change the license plate to go. We could have. We could have done it like the dumb and dumber. Did you say it's to go, Shandy? Yeah. Jesus Christ. Actually, you know what?

You know why is because I could only do straight lines with the tape. So I could I could do the boxes for Fenway Park. But I couldn't do like I wasn't able to freehand the Patriots logo in spray paint. How do we do those silver flames, then? Because those things are tits. Those were awful. Badly, it was we spray paint.

We just spray paint from the store. Yeah. Well, that was when Pimp My Ride was was hot in the streets. It's true. So you bought the spinning hubcaps that would helicopter off the side of the van if you were on highway speeds. And if you remember the first iteration, we just literally wrote Pimp My Ride in spray paint. And mom was like, you will not be driving a car that says Pimp around on it.

To be fair, that's yeah, that's kind of legit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was a wise decision by her. But speaking of pimping, pipping rides, this Colts offense was it was big pimping. And they were the exhibit of the NFL at that point. 100 percent. Yeah. Because if you like a thousand yard receivers,

they'll give you not one, not two, but three one thousand yard receivers in the same season. Can you name them? Yeah. Harrison Wayne Stokely. You're reading my notes, aren't you? No, I'm reading my own notes. Look who came prepared for the playoffs. Holy shit. You got it. You didn't get it in order, but that's cool enough.

They had rookie Dallas Clark to the tight end. I don't know if it was rookie, but it was early Dallas Clark. Yeah, it's definitely early. Yeah. And he went for it. I don't know. And then the only real players they had on defense was Dwight Freny and Robert Mathis, who were sex specialists, especially in the dome on that turf.

I think Freny actually led the league with 16 sacks. Mathis had 10 and a half himself. And then they also had rookie Bob Sanders, their first pick of the 2004 draft, which came around to, I don't know, having the first draft. So with this offense, you, you know, you think there would go pretty heavy in the draft colts. So 2004, I'm just going to give you the positions that they drafted.

Safety, tight end linebacker, linebacker, cornerback, guard, cornerback, quarterback, kicker. All of those players, except the kicker, actually made the roster and this this defense of the garbage. Like there's no names on here that are actually worth. Like middle of the road, though, aren't they? Seventeenth or something in points. It was one of those things.

Yeah, it was one of those things where the other teams, the powerhouses in the AFC were like the first and second scoring defenses. And then it was a Colt who just decided we're not doing defense this year. And they just they just won games on offense alone. But I mean, their offense is historically good. Like we talked about it last year about how hot they were coming into that. Yeah, it's a championship game.

But this team was arguably a better offense than the Colts team last year. And record. This was a historic hot suit. Yeah. Yeah, because this was the year that Peyton Manning broke Marino's touchdown record where they threw 49 touchdowns in the season. That was and man, it was named MVP, of course. And they actually the Colts themselves through 51 total touchdown passes

because Jim Sorgi played. He didn't actually start the last game of the season, but he played most of it with the starters and threw a couple of touchdown passes. And actually, the Colts were, you know, again, one of the hottest teams in the pages haven't lost since week eight to the Steelers still. No, that's not right. They lost. They lost that game to Miami.

Yeah, the night courage or orange. Exactly. Right. Colts also nine and one in their last 10 games. The only game they lost was they played Denver last week of the season in Denver. And then I think Denver like had to win to get in the playoffs. And if Denver won, they would play the Colts in Indianapolis. So the Colts just like trotted out to second team and lost. Yeah, but then they smoked the Broncos next week at home.

They scored five touchdowns in the first half. Yeah, it was 49, 49, 24, 35 to one at halftime. Yeah, manning through for he was 27 to 33 for 457 and four touchdowns, which was the second highest passing total in a playoff game up to that point. Yeah. Yeah. Reggie Wayne had 10 catches, 221 yards and two touchdowns in that game because they were picking out. I actually found for some reason, there's no video of that game.

Like I even found the the primetime like like postgame highlights clip of like all the games. And for some reason, that game had been cut out. I don't know why, but I admit, you know, I have nerd connections as I do. And I found the extended highlights and it was basically you remember Rock Alexander. No, no, I remember for the name. He was defensive back on the Broncos and he had a bad day covering Reggie Wayne. So he just got torched the entire.

I don't think you needed to watch the highlights to gather that, Andy. Temp, it was literally just Peyton Manning picking on this one defensive back for five touchdowns, four touchdowns and 400 yards. Ridiculous. Well, and then the Patriots don't have Tyler or Tyrone Poole. The Patriots are starting, you know, Brandon Soakley, a thousand yard receiver in the slot is going up against Troy Brown as the defensive back. Yeah, it's crazy.

What was what was the line on this game? Who's favorite Patriots by one? So, secondly, the Colts, because you get three points at home. Yeah, but what I what I'm going to do. Biggest general spot Patriots by four, you mean? We're playing by home. No, it's Patriots by one. Yes, so Patriots by four.

I'm going to have us on a neutral field to be Colts by two. Right, exactly. So here I'm going to play the intro to this, though. Because it was pretty legit. Interim to the game right now. Yeah, yeah, to the game. How long is it? A minute.

They are the talk of the National Football League and everyone is asking the same question. I think I've time for a touchdown over there. Touchdown! Oh, that was too easy. Touchdown! Maybe stop three words. Defense.

Defense. Defense. Bill Belichick's Patriots had the answer a year ago. Stifling Peyton Manning and Indianapolis' attempt to go to the Super Bowl. This season, they met again with the same result. The kick is up. No good! No good!

No good! A win today would advance the Patriots' place in history and add to the talk of their modern-day dynasty. They haven't lost at home in over two years, and the same question applies. Discipline, precedence, commitment, teamwork. Here we go. And back to pass.

Down, please! Long touchdown! Indianapolis! The Colts are on a roll and focused on finally winning in Boxborough. New England. Indianapolis. Two teams with the same question.

Which team will have the answer today? It's game time, baby. How hard are your nipples, Andy? Oh, yeah. Yes, we need to fucking stop the podcast. Yeah. If I can't be on it, nobody can be on it. This is my thing.

I'm going to stop recording. Satan Manning over here. You're right. How the fuck does that come up? How did we not think of that? Yeah. Satan Manning, that's pretty clever. It's perfect.

Yeah, that's fantastic. Even though he's kind of a lovable guy at this point. Well, that's how Satan gets you to drop your guard. That's true. Tell us more about that, Steve. You don't always see his horns. Sometimes he looks a little friendly, but then he gets in there and he's a real piece of shit.

And he makes his wife buy his HGH. Is that why sins feel so good? Yes. Okay, that kind of sins, Greg. I don't know. Since you were doing it on your little hiatus there, Andy. I don't know what that'll have in there. You've been covetous, Andy?

It's been a day. Yes, covetous of not being on the podcast. I believe it. We'll let you back in, I guess. Speaking of covetous, Patriots haven't lost at home in two years. Did you hear that part? I did.

Did you hear that part? Yeah, it was pretty awesome. But I think if we're talking covetous, we should talk about the Boston Globe. Because we have, we actually have a new intern who will join us at some point. Our buddy Tim, who is helping out. And so we cut up some of the Boston Globe articles.

And my favorite are the staff picks. Because all of them have scores in the 30s. Except for Ron Borges, where he only gave the Colts 28 points to beat in the Patriots. And Bob Ryan was probably the, your typical Bob Ryan Boston sports media negativity. But Colts 31 pages 28, a game I've been dreading for two months.

That doesn't sound that negative. Go fuck yourself, Bob Ryan. How can you get mad about that, Andy? You watch me. Is that a real question? With how like cynical you can actually be. All right. Well, this Dan Shaughnessy,

Patriots 35 Colts 34 Patriots get break when Vanderjack misses extra point as Walt Coleman erroneously rules wide right. I like that. Way to take that seriously, Dan Shaughnessy. Like we take this seriously. I get why they're picking high scores though. I mean, I think it was supposed to the,

there's in the weather is supposed to miss. Yeah. It wasn't supposed to come till later. Yeah. Which would have made a lot more sense. But I mean, even having said that though, the Colts just came out like running the ball, which kind of made sense because they,

they had a lot of success in week one with running the ball against the Patriots. They ran for like almost 200 yards, I think. Is that right? And like their scoring drives were mostly like run based, but still like they just came out trying to run the ball and it wasn't working early and they didn't really get away from it very quickly.

They like they went three and out the first few drives and then back to it. Like they're the only real drive they had was when they, they scored their only points in the game field goal right before half. They got the ball back with a minute 52 left 11 plays minute 52 and kicked the field goal. You're gun shy.

Hmm. They're gun shy. They don't know what to do their own six in New England with gaining. So they're like, we got to try something different. Cause what we've been doing does not work. Yeah. Got in their own heads.

And we talked about the other day, he was saying the other, he was saying the same thing. Like we asked him about Miami. He's like, we just get in our own heads. That's all it is. That's the reason we lose Miami all the time because we just get in our own heads. That being said, taking the ball out of the MVP who just set

the touchdown record is a bold strategy. It is. But I guess entering games is pretty good too though. You know, you can argue that. He was a thousand year old rusher. The manning was 27 to 42. 238. No touchdowns.

One reception. Sacked once for 18 yards, but I mean 42 attempts. How many attempts did you have the week before? Greg. 33. 33. He's got less attempts technically the week before. And at four and 58 yards.

And this one he had four and 42 attempts. A lot of those like at the end of the game, they just like trying to chuck it around. But it was too late at that point. I mean, you build your team to play on turf. You can't really, you can't really bitch and moan when you when you lose on grass. That's true.

And there was some, there was some controversy about that too. About how the, the Patriots were letting the field get sloppy like they didn't cover it or something in time. Let's see. I think that was in the globe too. Yeah, basically the, the field was, was because of the weather. Like, oh yeah, they, they let it, they didn't cover it overnight. And so it was supposed to be bad.

But it turns off, it turns out that that wasn't the case. They covered it when it was supposed to be covered. And you know, it's all just garbage, but it was, I remember that being brought up after the game by a lot of, you know, Colts fans and Colts media and stuff like that about, you know, Patriots cheating again and all of that jazz, which Greg thoughts. Have you seen the Vic documentary on ESPN? No.

Dude, first of all, you should watch it. Vic, Michael Vic is the fucking man. Like he's, he's exactly what you would want a like how like putting someone in jail should work of like, yeah, he got caught up with his childhood friends. He really wasn't like a terrible person. They put him in jail and he was like, came out a changed man and has been great ever since.

But the point being he was talking about when he gets on the turf and he's like, boy, you put me on that turf. Ain't nobody stopping me, which I think is fair. You get like these crazy athletes that is like a really big factor in games like this. We saw a freanie on the turf, like how much faster he looks. You build your team. I mean, greatest show on tariff is another good example.

You have a team that's built around speed and quickness and athleticism. Yeah. I think that is worth like 10 points. You know, per game or just generally per game. Jesus. Okay. Yeah. I mean.

So do you think maybe the move from natural grass to synthetic turf has increased the speed of the NFL, right? I would say it slows it down. It's turf is, I think the synthetic stuff is closer to grass than turf. But they've gone away from both, right? There's no more like the old school turf, the greatest show on turf turf. That she was awesome. Yeah.

And there's no more like sloppy. It was literally carpet on concrete. That's just destroyed people. So it was the opposite end of the spectrum of the just absolute slop grass mud. And in its places, pretty much this shit everywhere. But this game, like the, the field wasn't really that bad because I think it was so cold that it was kind of frozen. So there wasn't a lot of, I mean, we watched earlier in the season,

the Ravens game, which they referenced in this. And that was, remember, there was like mud up to their ankles and stuff. And whoever the commentator was, rainy cross, whoever was like, they had the measuring stick in the, in the mud to show how deep it was. And like, yeah, that was a slop vest. And that was two teams just like heavyweights just slugging it out. But this wasn't that this like every, there was no like lost footing. There was no people sipping around.

It was just like, it was a little cold and snowing a bit, but it wasn't like outrageous weather. No. In fact, I think it was almost shades of the week one because the pages came out. Five wide in the first half, like they did. Remember, they had all this hullabaloo about getting Corey Dillon, right? And then they started the game. Five wide, no huddle.

And he wasn't even on the field for the first like drive, drive and a half. I remember that. So it was kind of similar to this. Brady's slinging around. He hit nine different receivers on the day. 1827, 144. So you have big numbers, but he completed what he needed to. And it wasn't like I think the biggest issue in this game was this is a running game, right?

Let's. Yeah. This was not a throw the ball around the park game from the Patriots. 27 attempts. Right. To what? Thirty eight rushes. But this wasn't like past attempts that we saw in the snowball or anything where people

like slipping around like the balls all over the place. And you know, it wasn't like it wasn't a hot mess. It was every, they were still playing their passing game. They just didn't need it as much because Corey Dillon ran for a hundred something yards and 144. Yeah. And Kevin Falk ran for another 56. So I mean, Dillon had his money rushing yards as Brady had passing yards.

I think that kind of tells the story, right? Yeah. It had a longer run than Brady had a longest completion by. That's true. Yeah. 17 yard log versus Corey Dillon at a 42 yard run. Yeah. I think Corey had a couple of them too.

Didn't he? He had a longest pass of 18 yards. Corey Dillon had the biggest play of the day. I mean, yeah, I think the biggest detriment in the passing game was wide receivers dropping balls, my guess is because their hands were cold. Cause you know, I think I can't remember if it was Dallas Clark or Brandon Stovely out there with no gloves. Maybe the balls were deflated.

Maybe they were over inflated. Maybe they were deflated. Well, the Patriots balls were deflated, but the Colts balls were not. I've heard rumors out there that that could be a thing. What? Deflated balls? Andy, what's the ideal gas law off top of your head? Don't look it up.

I don't know. I'm disappointed in myself. Yeah. I figured you would be in a fucking hard on nerd equals NRT. Oh, who's the nerd now? Well, I spent like however many dollars go into college for it. So I probably should know that outside of the Patriots. The flakey.

Big dummies. Right. Exactly. We've got that tiny dick energy right now. Dude. That's equal to RT squared. Yeah. That's a buddy dirty dad.

I'm like a Roman statue over here. Just fucking tiny dick swinging. Dude, just using all my brain power in my head. It doesn't even get past the balls. Yeah. Jesus. So, I mean, I. I guess it didn't feel to me.

I don't know how it felt to you guys, but like it didn't feel to me like this was like Corey Dillon running wild. Well, Steve, I didn't watch the game. Let's put that up up front. That's not sure I watched the first half. He said, very busy week. Cool.

Well, let's get something on the air while we're on the fucking. While we're alive here. I got some grievances there against you, Steve. Oh boy. We were supposed to record last night. And Steve texted last minute. I'm going to be late. You guys do it alone.

And I didn't want to do it alone because I love you so much, Steve, but I had cooked pizzas in the oven and I was shoveling them down my gullet to get ready for seven. I burnt the living hell out of the top of my mouth. Dude, I can't taste anything for fucking 24 hours. And then you just go, I will push it to tomorrow. And every time I think about it, Steve, I'm like, that's son of a bitch. Steve Brown.

Do you don't think this wasn't planned? You know, it was part of my master plan. I didn't know that you were having pizza for dinner. Take your wife's phone, Greg. She's a rat. Yeah. Well, jokes on you, even if I didn't have a deadline to meet, I still would have crammed it down my gullet and burnt my mouth.

This is how you eat. Oh, Jesus Christ. I'm not going to go there because, Greg, I don't think you're blameless in this at all. Why? That's all. Because you're the one that made us change the date, the day of the week to do this because you had soccer on Thursdays

when we normally record. I'm sorry, I leave my house. And then failed to mention that you're not actually playing because you're hurt. You're injured. I am injured. So I was also cramming food down my gullet. You guys eat.

I'm so busy. I can't even eat, you know. No. Speaking too busy. How about that Tony Dungey? He seemed like a busy guy on this day. He seemed pretty excited that for the first time in, I think the last four games,

he won the coin toss against Patriots. So he was able to put his high octane offense on the field because the last, I think the last four games, last three games, the Patriots won the toss and gone down and scored the opening points. So you would think that this was like the perfect start for the Colts. They get the ball first. That you had a decent kick return to start at like the 35, almost 40. And then three and out immediately running the ball.

That's garbage. Can't do that. Let's read out Edge's stat line for the game. Give it to me. He has like 14 carries 39 yards. Along with seven. Along with seven. Did we say the score?

Did we already mention the score? We have not mentioned the score. The final score is Patriots 20 Colts 3. Yeah. So not great from the offensive standpoint for the Colts. Generally. Yeah. Let's see. But we didn't completely shut them down. It was kind of like odds and ends and how they got stopped.

I mean, they had 230 passing yards. They didn't run the ball well, but they had a bunch of drops. There's only one interception. Should have been two though. But there's only one, right? There's three turnovers, I guess. Many hit Eugene Wilson between the two and the nine in the end zone on their field. And the only points they scored in the field.

Yep. The play before. But I mean, yeah, I mean, holding this team between points, you know what it is? It's time of possession. That to me, that's the takeaway from this entire game is complete domination in time of possession. Well, this is where you get the nickname clock killing Corey Dillon, right?

That was a nickname. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. I didn't make that clever. I didn't know that either. Really? You've never heard clock killing Corey Dillon?

No. Man, I thought I was going to podcast with Pat's fans. What the fuck happened? But yeah, I think it basically came from this game where because like Greg says, the Patriots had almost 38 minutes of possession of the Colts 22. Which is 21 plus minutes in the second half. Cool. It was six, three.

The second half was you got super quiet all of a sudden, Greg. But their second half drives were. Let's see. Third quarter, they got the ball 946 left 15 plays, eight minutes, 16 seconds, 87 yards ended in a touchdown. The next drive, they got the ball in the fourth quarter. Just started 14 minutes, 34 seconds left in fourth quarter, 14 plays, starting their own six 14 plays, seven and a half minutes, 94 yards,

another touchdown. That's basically a quarter right there in two drives. Game right there. Right. You just ground out between yourselves, one quarter, two touchdowns. Well, and they had a 16 play 78. Yard drive in the first half to then in a field goal. That ending in a field goal is bullshit.

Yeah, well. So the season average is less than six plays 25 yards drive and two and a half minutes. So you get drives of 16, 15 and 14. Eight over eight minutes twice and over seven minutes another time. That's. It's pretty dominant. Yeah.

Guess the Colts longest drive. Oh, I actually wrote this down. This is funny because it's, it's funny in both terms of plays and time. Give it to me. If her plays, it's 12 plays 59 yards, two and a half minutes, and it ended an interception. And for time, it's eight plays 30 yards, four and a half minutes, and it ends in a fumble.

Jesus. Yeah. And then one scoring drive was 11 plays in at 52, 67 yards in a field goal. It's garbage time. Right. It's fucking. Well, that was the end of the half.

Yeah. So. Yeah, definitely, definitely a rough one. But also, I don't know if you guys caught this, but they're talking about Rodney Harrison. And obviously, you know, in typical Rodney fashion, he was irritated to hear all the talk about the Colts offense. So he obviously had a chip on his shoulder,

which, you know, part of the course. But he was also saying that even with like missing Tyla and everybody, he was more confident in the defense this year compared to last year's playoffs against the Colts because he said they had found some new wrinkles this time. And also they mentioned something about how he was saying that they found some tells on Manning's play action,

which I felt like they could use to their advantage, which I think probably worked because I don't remember any play action play working. But I was kind of shocked that like there was no more talk about that because I feel like finding a tell on Peyton Manning is especially in a year that he threw 49 touchdowns is kind of a big deal. No. Yeah.

I don't know. I feel like Harrison kind of talks out of his ass sometimes. That's more confident this year than last year. Like, I don't know about that. Justin, they're well, they held him in three points, which is better than it did last year. Right. I feel like this is a more dominant defensive play.

You think? Yeah. I don't know. I felt like they were hanging on at the end of the last year's game. That because the offense was horrendous, if you remember. Was it? Yeah. Brady had that chance like kill the game and he threw an interception.

That's right. There was like Ty Law and Harrison were like pissed on the sidelines. That's right. Yeah. I do. I get the results though. Yeah. I suppose.

Yeah. But still. I mean, that team is you lose Ty Law and Richard Seymour. I don't care how good your scheme is, you know, that's true. But you also gain Vince Wilfork in the middle, which probably single handedly helps slow down that rushing game. Oh, yeah. I mean, Vince Wilfork is not as good as Richard Seymour though.

That's a step down at run defense. Mm hmm. I don't know. Awesome. I don't really remember. I'll probably give the slight edge to Wilfork. I mean, also it's rookie Wilfork, so maybe not at this point. Yeah.

I understand where you're coming from. Let's see. What else we got? Yeah. Oh, did you catch that Peyton Manning had the fourth longest run against the Pages defense this year? 19 yard scramble in week one. No.

The fourth longest run against the Pages defense, which I wouldn't mind seeing again come back because I feel like the Pages run defense as of late has been suspect. Do you agree? That's where it all starts too, right? If you stop the run, then everything else you can kind of scheme around. You should be a coach. If you stop the run, you're cooked.

I mean, less so nowadays because nobody's run first team, are they? Like they weren't back in the early 2000s. Dude, I only see Mac Jones run. He had the same 40 time as Patrick Mahomes. Really? Yeah. I don't believe that. Steve, stat check that.

Stat check it, Steve. Stat check it, Steve. I'm not the stat check guy. I am not. You are now. You just cut off of work. You're still in work mode. Stat check it.

Absolutely not. Look at Steve. Use this. Why would the internet lie to me? Unless I'm an idiot and I read it correctly. Greg, have you never been on the internet before? Yeah, but why would you lie about something stupid like that? You know,

Have you never been on the internet before? Have you not been following the account of, I believe, his Balsak Sports on Twitter who just post made up quotes about basketball players and they got covered by ESPN. Is it correct? Yeah. I mean, that's ESPN for you. Right.

So we like to hold ourselves so higher standard, Greg. So if you would fact check that for us, I don't want to be. He's faster. He's faster? Yeah. What? I was running four, eight. Mac Jones ran a four, six, seven.

Mac Jones ran a four, six, seven. But it says, dude, unofficial. I think that's just from his pro day. Oh, wait. Yeah. Four, seven, two and four, six, eight. Brady was a five, two, eight. Brady was slower than Wilfork, remember?

I need video of this. Oh, God. So what was Josh Allen's 40 yard dash? Four, seven, six. So Josh Allen. Mac Jones have basically the same 40 yard dash. Yeah. I don't know.

Watch a video that's like 30 seconds and you get a 30 second ad to watch it. It's like, God damn it, dude. Oh, yeah, Greg. Tell me how much you hate advertising. I can't wait for it. The video commentators. They're going to put advertisements like turn my car on, you know,

those like subscription things. They're like, well, we could fucking give it to you for free if you just accept these ads shoved up your ass. Oh, ad suppositories coming next. I'll admit it. I just watched it. It didn't look very athletic, but it was, it was effective though. Yeah.

It's clearly fast, but it kind of runs like with the chicken wing arms. So he's awkwardly efficient. Awkwardly. I don't know. What are you looking for? Can't argue with the results. Right. That's what I'm saying.

That's, that's, that's how I play sports. Awkward as fuck. But yeah, it works on the end. Saw the profile view. It looked pretty good. Oh, all right. Guy looks good in shorts, you know, I do. Mac Jones.

Let's get him on the run. All right. Let's do it. Roll them out. Put it on the move. I think here, this is a hot take, but I think the offense is going to be better without McDaniels. I don't think that's much of a hot take.

Yeah. I don't know. McDaniels is like taking this team to the Super Bowl a bunch of times. Was it him or was it Brady? How do you do without Brady? Dude, so many times have been frustrated by McDaniels. Yeah. Same.

Third and long draw plays. Yeah. Although having said that, they ran out in this game. Kevin Falk picked up the first down. I'm like a third nade or something ridiculous. That was going to be one of my best. But speaking of people who shouldn't be running it, I would put Donik Rhodes in that category. He had one carry.

Actually, it was a screen pass, one catch. Negative two yards. And he basically gave the ball to Teddy Bruce, which I think is the play that you remember. That's unfair. He did not give the ball to Teddy Bruce. He took the ball from him. He didn't stop Teddy Bruce from taking it. I don't think he had a choice.

Teddy Bruce is taking that fucking ball. I mean, Teddy Bruce, he asked nicely first. No, you don't think? Okay. His route came out of nowhere. So give me that. I suppose he did. That's uncouth, I would say.

But yeah, I mean, I think that's the defining play. Like you remember the 2003 Colts game, playoff game with Thai laws, interceptions, right? At least one of them. And I think there's the defining play of this game is Teddy Bruce, ripping the ball out of Dominic Rhodes hands, which I believe Greg wasn't out there at their longest drive in some fashion. That ended in a fumble. Yeah, the longest amount of time they held the ball.

They were a whole four minutes and 47 seconds before they fumbled it. But they were like in New England territory, I think. He had thrown the Peaches 39 yard line. Yeah. So they were driving to score and they just couldn't do it. And then also there was another fumble that he recovered. Bruce, he had himself a game in this, I thought. Kind of quietly, because he didn't do much outside of the two fumble recoveries.

And one was, I think it was Rodney Harrison stripped Marvin Harrison. They tried a screen pass, which in the wild card game worked for like a 40 yard touchdown. Like one of those wide receiver screens that Harrison took that was tried again. You got picked up like 10, 15 yards, but then met the other Harrison and pop the ball out. Bruce, he just fell on it. But if you also notice he Bruce, he also opened the second half with a nice kick return to the 45. When the Colts were kicking in the wind. So that was pretty dope.

So MVP of this game. Teddy Bruce key. Cory, don't go. Boys just don't think I was at the box ever. Killing Cory down. You learn a new nickname. Yeah, if you get a nickname in a game, you got to be MVP. That's fair.

It certainly wasn't the MVP. No, that was that was manning. And this was also I realized towards the end of the game that this was the Peyton Manning commercial Peyton Manning. Because there was a cut that meat sign. And I believe it was also a chant. Oh, is that old? Yeah. No, I thought it was way later in his career.

No, no, no. I mean, according I think it was in the Boston Globe articles. There was something about the cut that meat chance, which I didn't I didn't I didn't pick up in the when I was listening to the game, but. I definitely saw signs that cut that meat. There was also a couple other signs. One that was MVP, but it stood for make vacation plans, which was pretty clever. That is nice. That's not bad.

There was also. Greg, I think you might like this one. Vander shank open foot open mouth insert foot. Stupid. What was your name for him before we started? Nothing. So now you're all shy. All right.

Now he decides to censor himself. Three years into the podcast. Mom earmuffs. Mike Vander jerk me off. Very noisy. Sometimes a naughty boy. Gregory can't take you anywhere. You just.

Tommy Longcock. James Mungrow. There's another good name. The second. No, no less. The second. James Mungrow. The second.

So he's not a junior. He's a second. Yeah. We looked this up. Yeah. With. Garden Minshew. Cause he's a second.

Yeah. Whether it's juniors. If it's your father's name. Second is if it's your grandfather. That's right. Yeah. But your father isn't that same name. Correct.

Yeah. Okay. You want to take a. Are we done with the game? I got a lot of notes. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think.

Steve, you have any other notes on the game you didn't watch? I got some best and worst, but nothing. All right. We can go to the recap. All right, great. Give me some, give me some around the league. What was going on in 2004, January, 2000. Well, January, 2005 technically.

Yeah. So, I mean, this is obviously divisional. Pats had a buy, right? Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So the.

The one notable wildcard game that I. That I found was the Vikings Packers. Randy Moss. Mooning. Yes, it was. This year. I love that. Which turned out to be.

One of, I think it was Moss's last touchdown as a Viking. If I remember correctly. Oh, damn. Yeah. Also. You guys are the announcer of that game. That was. Yeah.

Disgusted by it. Yeah. Joe bucks said. It was a disgusting act, which has come down in for me. Actually, and I looked up a bunch of like articles around that time and. It was actually Joe Buck. That was getting the majority of the hate rather than Randy Moss.

Yeah. I thought there'd be like, people piss at Randy, but no one really was. I bet that if Twitter was around at that point, they would have been, but you're right. I think because the whole thing was that. In Green Bay. The fans would moon the player,

the opposing players as they came and went. So this was kind of like stuff. Yeah. He was kind of giving it back to him. What a sweet football. His quote after the game was, he was just having a little fun with the boys. Yeah.

It was really much shit. And Greg, you are correct. This is his last season in Minnesota. Yeah. You get trade to Oakland in 2005. So I think it's his last touchdown as a. As a Viking. I mean, it was the next week.

That's the way to go out in it. Dude, so, but there was an overreaction of people hating on Buck, the Vikings owner. So Buck had the, the Vikings game in the division around. And he wanted them to remove Buck for quote, a prejudice that surpassed objective reporting. Like Jesus.

Yeah. Fuck dude. I just had a gut reaction watching this fucking play and you're over here. Fucking prejudice surpassing objective reporting. Like, dude, you kidding? That's a dude who's never listened to Boston sports talk. Right.

Yeah. That's a bill polling move right there. That's what that is. Yeah. Um, I saw an interview with Joe Buck too. He seems pretty like self aware of it. He's like, listen, I called it, you know, it was one of those things that happens in the moment.

I didn't know the context. Yada, yada. Yeah. Um, you know, you know how Moss does the come on man segment? Yeah. Yeah. Apparently there was a play, uh, recently where someone was tackling Joe Barrow and they like tackle him by the pants.

And it like pulled his pants down. And Randy Moss was like, that's a disgusting act. Amazing. So that also shows. Like Buck said that like Randy Moss has been super chill about it. Like never got mad once. Like next time I like gap them off. He's like, I don't care.

It's Randy Moss. That's how he is. Yeah. I think he's one of the more, uh, most misunderstood players in the league, Randy Moss. And I think now people kind of come around on him. I think at the time probably. Oh, for sure.

But now he's like on Sunday night countdown. People kind of get it. Not anymore. I don't think, but yes. But I don't think his contract was removed this year. Oh, he's off. Yeah. I bet.

Let's get him on the pod. Yeah. Yeah. That was the only, that was the only wild card game that I thought had any note. So the, um, Other than the cold one. Yeah.

Oh, one other note from that game that you guys are probably like far through four interceptions. Shocking. Dude, he had this one fucking touchdown. He's like, it's like, they're like the 10 yard line. He's like rolling out and he's like running out of space to throw it. And he literally does this.

No look like underhand shovel pass across his body. That like just lands in this dude's lap. It was the most ridiculous, awesome play from far, but he'd already crossed the line. Yes. By like three or four yards, not like he stepped over grinning, dude. He's the fucking man.

He's a fucking tool. And then he almost brought him back. Even after throwing four picks, but of course, just too tough to overcome. So I think that's one of the, uh, did you say one of the, the, um, the records that will never be broken is Brett Farms interception record.

Yeah, we talked about that. No, we'll ever break that. Yeah. Overall turnover record because he had a fucked on a fumble. So did that one. He was a gunslinger, you know, just out there fucking shoot from the hip. As you do.

Yeah. Um, so then the, the Eagles would get a buy, right? They played the Vikings in the next round. Eagles win. Um, the only thing I had note there was Fred X. Freddie Mitchell's got two touchdowns. And when he caught his first one, he did the pulling the pants up.

Celebration fair play. That's fucking funny. Not too bad. Not too bad. Pretty funny. Um, so yeah, 27 14 Eagles one at home. And I think, um, the eagle that I believe when we were talking about the,

uh, Steelers and how the, how much of a wagon they were, uh, they beat the only two undefeated teams in the league back to back weeks. It was the Patriots and the Eagles. The only two remaining undefeated teams and the Steelers just stomped them both. Yeah. Eagles going into their fourth straight NFC title game.

Yeah. Based on that win. Yeah. The Buffalo bill. Good for nothing. Cause they hadn't won one yet. They had lost all three. Yep.

And they will be playing the Michael Vick Atlanta Falcons. Oh, Dan. This is also, I believe Vicks last year till the incident. Oh, really? Yes. What incident was that crack? It actually was not. Um, no,

he played 2005, 2006 and then according to pro football, 2007, 2008 miss season violation of league personal conduct policy, which is the nicest way you can put that. Fuck me. Roger. Who did they beat? They beat the Rams to the end of the greatest show on

tariff, the Bolger. The Bolger Rams. Yeah. Yeah. So they just fucking, they stopped them like crazy running on them. Yeah. It was,

these are the first half records that they sent in that game. They had 239 rushing yards. Oh, just in the first half. Oh, done work done had 126 rushing yards in the first half. Um, they finished with 327.

Vick had 119. Yep. Um, and then Vick set the, the record for the longest playoff run by a Falcon with 47 in the first half and then done broke that record in the second half of 62 yards. Yeah.

Jesus. So yeah, 47, 17 without barely even throwing the ball and they, they kicked the shit out of them. I think they had like a 70 passing yards. Yeah. They have 70 passing yards and one.

Oh my God. 47, 17. It might be worth looking at the highlights. Just remember how awesome Vick was too. Yeah. He's still, I think,

I think he's more athletic than Lamar Jackson. Michael Vick was the best video game character of all time in Madden 2004. Like you weren't allowed to play him if you were playing a friend or somebody like you couldn't, you couldn't pick the Falcons because it was cheating because he was so overpowered. He was pretty sweet. Yeah.

In an absolute cannon of an arm too. Oh yeah. He would just flick the ball. Uh-huh. Which I think Lamar Jackson is kind of similar. He doesn't even put much effort into it. I think Vick is a little better. Like,

I think Lamar Jackson is a better thrower of a football. Maybe. I think. You gotta, you gotta think about era too. Right? Yeah. Vick came in against 2004 guys who were wearing gigantic shoulder pads.

Lamar is doing it against super athletic sideline to sideline linebackers. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah. Maybe we'll get into that thing at some point and go down a whole Vick rabbit hole because it's definitely an interesting story. Like how he grew up and how that all that stuff ended up going down was. Yeah.

There's some weird shit about him getting like in trouble too. That was super shady about like, he didn't actually do very much wrong. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, but he was the name, right? Yeah. Yeah.

So yeah. So it's going to be Falcons Eagles in the NFC championship, the AFC championship. Steve, you're going to love this. The fucking Steelers Jets, the Steelers win 20 to 17 in overtime. Yes. The Jets had the ball with two minutes left, kicking a field goal.

Doinked it. 47 yards. Big Ben throws a pick on the very next drive. They get in range again and then pushed one wide left from 43 yards. So they missed two game winning field goals in the last two minutes. And then promptly lost immediately in overtime. You're right. I do love that.

Yeah. Yeah. So Steelers Patriots, two best teams in the AFC meeting in Pittsburgh. Right. Oh yeah. That is correct. One loss in the rookie Big Ben. Yeah.

And the Steelers have fished in consecutive wins coming in this game. The last home loss was in 2003, which is fucking forever ago because we're in 2000, January 2005 at this point. They are first in the NFL in total defense with the fewest points allowed. And they are second in the NFL in rush offense, which is even with Ben Rothesberger. He is not the,

the main attraction, the main driver of this baby. I can't wait to watch Troy Palamalo. He's one of the forgotten awesome players. Yeah. Like generation defining players that people don't talk about enough. You don't think he's forgotten? I don't think so. I see highlights of him all the time.

Do you? I feel like him and Bob Sanders are pretty similar. Yeah. Bob Sanders, people don't talk about either. Bob Sanders. Like every, you know, fucking Sean Taylor. What about my boy Troy? Troy Brown?

No. Yes. Let's get it. Speaking of Troy Brown, let's get it best and worse. Yeah. Steve, you want to go first? Yeah. A lot of Troy Brown bests.

Should I just go right into those? Yeah. Let's do it right into those. Just go right into him, Steve. Just do it feels right. Yeah. I just like, I don't know what's going on with the pro football reference page.

It doesn't have all the defensive stats for the Patriots. Oh yeah. You're right. Players. It only has Indianapolis, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's only three players.

What the hell is going on here? I don't know. Troy played a fucking great game. Dude, this is the first time I've ever seen pro football reference be missing something. Yeah. Same. We use this shit religiously. Wow.

But Troy played a great game because Peyton was picking on him as he should. Right. The Patriots secondary is absolutely a bunch of scrubs and a wide receiver playing cornerback and he's got Brandon Stokely, a thousand yards. He's a great solider. So he might be the best in the NFL against Troy Brown. And he was definitely going to be a little bit, but then Troy, if I can battle back, had some sick third downstops, had a ball or punt return.

Yeah. That was sweet. Yep. When he had like he knocked that pass down, then returned the kick. Yep. And then he was out there on offense in the next place. I got damned. How old is this dude?

Yeah. This is like peak Troy Brown just playing all phases of the game. It was sick. It's like not peak Troy Brown, but it is in some ways too. Like, No, it's certainly not. Yeah. It's not like how good he was, but just how versatile it was.

Yeah. It's like how it's prototypical Troy Brown. He could prototype Troy Brown, which I guess you could call peak Troy Brown because that's it. That's what made him good is. Well, we were talking to Kevin Falk about his ability to like return kicks and how he's like the leading yard. He's like my only job.

Well, there was just secure the ball. Right. Yeah. Get your most important guy out there. So it's Troy Brown. Like, Hey, Troy, I know you're playing offense and defense, but like, we really can't afford a fumble on a kick return. It's going to blow this game open.

So get out there, buddy. Yeah. That was going to be my best was like, there was literally one long highlight of Troy Brown, break up the pass on third down. And then as they're like, you know, they're talking about, they're watching him and you can see him running back to go get the punt, which he does. And then he returns the punt. And then he just like stands there on the field and waits for the offense to come to

the receiver. Yeah. Like, damn, you just doesn't take a break. Love to know how many in the NFL. He actually played. Yeah. He has not won or this is fucking NFL division playoff game. Yeah.

And this isn't like the 1930s where you're playing against, you know, like mechanics and stuff. And this is your side job where you guys can play both sides. But like this is. It's kind of you. It's kind of be kind of obnoxious to be like, like a practice squad cornerback. And Troy Brown like picks it up in the middle of a season is like better than new. And you're like, damn it.

Did I've spent my entire life dedicating myself to this craft and this fucking asshole just picks it up halfway through. I would agree with you if the Patriots actually had any practice squad cornerbacks left. I think they were starting them all. I guess where Randall. General. Right. Yeah.

Or your street free agent. Like, dude, I can do that. Just give me a spot. And then you watch and you're probably like, God, now he is pretty good. Yeah. So he's second on the team in receptions. He kind of knows what he's doing. He's a slot receiver.

He also plays the first six plays of the game, including a three and up by the Colts, the kick return, the first two Patriots games. He's just like, all right, try to just get out there. I think on this game, he has T Brown on his jersey, though. Did he? Yeah. Interesting. Is there another Brown?

I don't. I like can never remember Troy Brown ever having T Brown on his jersey. I'm trying to think if there's another Brown on defense, maybe that we missed, but they're not like, why would it be just this playoff game? They must have signed somebody for just the playoff. It seems crazy because he hasn't had it all year. Maybe they're like special jerseys because it's the playoffs and they have like patches. I don't know.

So they get away. Now I want a T Brown jersey. God damn right. Yeah. T Brown, baby. Yeah. 2004 T Brown. Get the Super Bowl patch on or something.

Did you know? Here's a fun fact. Troy Brown for one year was number 86. When? Yeah. He was not always on Brady. No way. Like when he first started or what?

Yeah. It was like it was like a second year and I fell. So who knew? I was a little upset when they were bitching about his there. I said, oh, he fair caught it. He didn't. That's such bullshit. Oh yeah.

He kind of like punt return. He never got it above. I say you got to get above your head and he's like, he's starting to get it. He didn't even get above his shoulder. Yeah. He's fucking Tony Dungey. Although I want to give you this is kind of my best and worst. That's all in one.

Yeah. It's topical Tony Dungey. We've talked a lot about the pages doing the direct strap snap to Kevin Falk and how they like master that play. We talk with Kevin Falk about it. But the Colts tried to do it in this game and they got called for a false start because Manning lined up under center and then moved away. And because he lined up under center.

You're not allowed to basically go in motion from under center for some arcane rule that whatever the commentator was like knew immediately, which shocked me because it's fucking football commentators. Phil. Yeah. I have some other kudos for the commentators too. Andy, you want me to share those with you? Yeah.

Because I have one too, believe it or not. So you go first. Wow. Give me. Phil was pointing out Patrick passes great block on the punt return by Troy. And, you know, that's great. I didn't even see the first time we went back and watched it. I was like, wow, that's a great, great.

And then they were like talking about how good the field is and then immediately Corey Dillon was off that big run. Yeah. They also had that highlight package of how great of a blocker Daniel Graham was. They're showing like all the like the complicated blocks that he was having to do. I had to go pick up the weak side middle linebacker on one place so that Kevin Falk could make the cutback on the draw play and like shit like that. And then I found it interesting where Phil was like outraged about a hit.

I think it was the first time I've seen a commentator be like, oh my God, look at that hit. And it was like those ones that were previously celebrated on Brandon Stokely from I think Eugene Wilson, you know, Samuels. Yeah. Yeah. That's my best. Was that it? Yeah.

Fucking decapitated him. It was sick. Phil disagreed with you. Well, you can get fucked, dude. It's a man's sport. Maybe you should Phil go play like fucking golf or tennis or something. He's doing his best Eugene Wilson impressionation. Yeah.

Samuels had some some comments after the game about that hit. Okay. Let's see. Quote, I was hoping the flags wouldn't come out to Samuel who knew how his hit might have been interpreted by officials in yesterday's 20 to three playoff win over the Colts. Hopefully I won't get a FedEx letter on Wednesday. Notifying him of a league imposed fine. I mean, I think I got a lot of shoulder on him.

I didn't leave with my helmet. Hmm. Hmm. Oz Oz on the fact that he had a FedEx letter in his locker the next day. I'm a go. I'm pretty high. I don't know. I don't know if you did it all, but I have to imagine anything because that I was like,

thank hell with the helmet. It was brutal. And then. Oh, really smart timeout by Belichick. You know, saved a guy being wide open. Oh, yeah. I'm just going to be boring a bit. Smartly call the timeout to save a wide open.

You know, they saw the confusion on defense and what a heads up coaching play to genius. Maybe. Time out there. Yeah. Yeah. And then my negative probably actually one more fun fact, two fun facts. There was a week three buy for us. Yes.

Crazy. Super early. Right. Right. At this point, they've been playing football for like three or months straight. Yeah. And the Patriots went from 27th and rushing to seven just by adding Corey Dillon. That's all it took.

That's pretty good. Yeah. That's not a bad, not a bad set. I'll give you some more fun stats if you want. Yeah. Hit him with him with them. This is where they showed it with a minute 23 left in the first half. The last first half shut out of the Indianapolis Colts.

2003 in the AFC championship game at New England. They would eventually kick a field goal here. So they would they would just escape. But also another Peyton Manning stat for you in 2004 regular season. Peyton Manning had 68 20 plus yard completions. 68 the week before and against Denver. He had 11. Cool.

In this game. You didn't even break like that. It's correct. 18 yards. Yeah. Yeah. Not too bad. And also the Colts postseason turnovers last one here in 2003 last two years.

The postseason turnovers Colts have had versus any other team in three games. They had two versus the Patriots in two games. Eight turnovers. They just cannot solve the genius that is Bill Belichick's defense. Would you agree, Greg? No, I guess it's snow in Taiwan. Fuck it. There is no time on this game.

Well, Santa Samuel played pretty well. I thought. How do you know? No, I mean, he knocked some dude's head off. Eugene Wilson played well too. Who didn't play well is my biggest negative is the fucking punter, dude. Josh Miller. Who gives a shit?

He touched backs his first two punts and then. Yeah. Punting from the 43 gets only 29 yards. Dude. Two minutes left. Fucking punters, Steve. Greg, you know who cares? Belichick cares about the punter.

That's exactly right. Yeah. That's why he's never going to win this league. Oh, good Lord. All right, Greg, you got any best and worst for us? Um, my worst is probably got to be the feeling of like cults fans after this game of. You have, you're like, oh fuck, do we have Dan Marino?

You know, like. Well, you just broke down Marino's touchdown record. He's putting up these like. This was the fifth at the time. The fifth ranked offense in NFL history. And he goes in and puts up another stinker after doing it last year. Three points. And he's fucking oh and seven in Foxborough.

Right. He's like. They've lost what six straight calls because a lot of six straights in New England and nine straight in Foxborough. So you got to be like, Jesus. Is this what is this what we have? Like, is this and they kind of did, you know, I mean, they did, they do win that one, but to some degree, he is like a regular season hero that

could never quite get over that hump in the playoffs. Doesn't he have the most ever one and dunes in the playoffs out of any quarterback? Yeah, it was something. I believe so. It's a lot. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, that's got to be a tough realization to come to because

at this point, he's six years in the league, something like that. You're probably like, all right, we kind of know what we have. He's not going to like. He's he's already basically peaked as what a regular season quarterback. We know he can be. So now all it comes down to is can he win these big games and win Super Bowls and like build on a legacy, which the answer so far is resounding.

No, resounding. No. Yeah. Not a Tom Brady still playing. Yeah. Or not a Bill Belichick. Yeah. And a BB is still coaching.

Right. Because I mean, let's let's let's go into it. Bill Belichick is more genius in this game. Messing with Peyton Manning's head with how many down linemen he played. There was certain situation. Let's not pretend that fucking man hasn't seen this shit before. He's seen zero down linemen. Guaranteed he hasn't.

I bet he has. That just came out. That just started this year. Or if he like, do you think that's why Manning was sucking dick? You know, I threw an exception on that drive. I was in his head. Yeah. I think it's the players on the field.

I think it's Harrison. I think it's law. I think it's guys like that that just make plays and the calls for dropping ton of passes. Like even that first drive, they're like three drops and it's like, okay, these guys aren't these guys don't have the mental like four to two to get through this game. Yeah.

Because Bella checks in their head. Steve, did you know that Greg was a Colts fan? Yeah. It sounds just like a Colts fan with all these. Yeah. But if they don't cover the field, if they cover the field, they're better. I'm shitting on Manning.

You guys are trying to blow Bella checkers. They're like, oh, do you see there's nobody down on the line? It was so confusing for this guy. Who's a fucking Hall of Famer? Yeah, you can fucking Peyton Manning is like the most cerebral quarterback that's ever lived. Wow. Yeah.

He just choked some big games. That's all. A quote from Tony Dunge. Well, you know, I pride myself in knowing the rules. Like Colts coach Tony Dunge. That rule I didn't know. What they say is once you go under center, if you move away from the center, you have to be set for a second.

A fairly obscure rule, but it's in there somewhere, I guess. You know who knows that rule, Greg? Oh, sick dude. That was the turning point of the game. And he was at five yard penalty. Hey, it worked. Actually, you know, that's how I'm going to start calling you guys Bella check, but boys

because it's incredible. You want you want to hear some penalties that did affect the game on that last scoring drive of the Patriots, two defensive holding penalties called on the Colts. Whose fault was that? The players for Bill Napoleon. Yeah. Why?

Because he's the one that got that rule instituted. And now it came back to bite him on that last ninety four, ninety six yard drive, whatever it was. Oh, Andy spin zone, dude. I love how trigger Greg is right now. This is the best. Dude, it's like watching like fucking CNN or Fox News. Quote.

That's a little to help man and cope with another. That's what I feel like I'm doing when I watch you guys. Andy, Andy, what was that quote? Andy, what was that quote? Let's just talk over Greg. Let's just talk over Greg. That would do. So if I could talk at the same time.

No, no, let's talk over Greg. Would anybody say, but if I just talk the loudest and people think I'm fucking right. Wrong. Wrong. Greg's wife is a dog. Wrong. Wrong.

You got a dog wife, Greg. The dog. Steve. And your mom's Zoya killer, Greg. Yeah. But that will do little to help man and cope with another clunker. He is a visible superstar who is developing a reputation

as a guy who can't get it done when it matters. Well, the only time I think about my history is when I walk in this interview room, said Manning, it's a lot of the same song as last year. I hope we could talk about something different, like a win. There's a lot of pressure that he signs all week with my name on it. It's my name versus the Patriots.

I never play that way or feel that way. I knew it was the Colts versus Patriots, but I wanted to do my job and I didn't do that well today. He didn't. God, it sucked to be a fucking Colts fan. I tell you, you just get so excited. Every year, like for Shendo's in this like, oh, here's our chance. We're going to do it this year.

And then just fucking get your shit pushed in in the snow. Two years in a row and you're fucking, you're stuck. Quarterback just crashes fans on live television. Here's some more after that. That's depressing. Greg, this is for you. You'll like this. Gumbel, Dan Marino, boomer, Sison all pick the Patriots to win

with Shannon Sharp going for the Colts. After the game, Sison said Manning might be, quote, this generation's Dan Marino, a great football player, but he's not going to get to a Super Bowl, like you said, at which point Marino interjected, hey, I got to a Super Bowl and a Sison finish. Not with that defense. You know what I mean.

There's too much pressure on him to be perfect every week, just like you Marino had to be. It was a discussion that seemed guaranteed to be continued once the studio lights went off. Good. Yeah. It sucks. There's a difference between, there's a difference between

like you team losing and you playing well and your team losing and like you playing terrible. Like when the patch beat the Chiefs in my home, like had that really good game, you're like, at least Chiefs fans can go home being like, we got a guy. You know, they put his nuts on the table. He played his dick off. He just lost to a better team.

But these games are so like, must be so disheartening to be a fan of team because you're like, what happened to him? Like, I watched this guy for like 17 games and he was, he's unstoppable. And then you, for some reason it just gets this game and he's just horrific three points. Zoom raises. Once he faces BB, he just like lays an egg.

Yeah. Well, Peyton, Satan Manning. Peyton Manning. Can only hide the horn so long, Greg. He made a deal with the devil, I guess. I found the quote about the fans chanting. And it's also about like the signs that they had. Well, after the game, you will get your ring.

Suffer ring. Red one. The crowd was yelling, cut that meat, cut that meat in reference to Manning's ad campaign in which he cheered for the common folk while they're performing their jobs. Brutal. You see LeBron LeBron would have called that racist. You see that?

He said, he was on his TV show, whatever he shows, the barbie shot one. Yeah. Yeah. Boston's racist. Why? And he was like, they're like, why do you say that? He's like, dude, whenever I go up there, they're always chanting

like, fuck LeBron. It's like, dude, we've been saying fuck everybody. It's not special, dude. It's not about you. Let's say that the Peyton Manning will say it's LeBron James and say it's your mother. I don't give a damn. To be fair, that commercial was sweet.

Yeah. And the one where the kids and he's throwing the football at him. Yeah, I remember that one. Like make a wish. I think it was. It was an SNL skate. Yeah.

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Hucking the football. Yeah, it was funny. That was a good one. He's on. Isn't he doing comedy this year?

He was doing that thing with his brother. What was it? Amazon or something? Who did they just give a huge... Oh, Brady, right? No, Brady signed a deal when he's done. For like 10 years or something. Yeah.

He's going to be terrible. You think? Yeah. I think he's going to be a smarter Tony Romo. He's not negatively as charismatic as Tony Romo. He's such a negative bitch, Greg. Dude, they gave him like a $300 million contract for a guy that like has someone run his social media forum.

Like, come on. I can't wait for him to get dragged for calling something disgusting. Yeah. That disgusting act. Yeah. It's a prejudice that surpasses objective reporting is what it is.

Oh, good Lord. All right, boys, you got anything else? Nope. All right. That's it. Where we off to next week, the Steel City, the three rivers. Three rivers stadium. A rematch of 2001.

Smogsville, USA. Ship game. But this time with the Hineswood, Troy Palamalo, the new queen of the NFL. Betis is better still kicking. I don't believe God. I hate the Steel City. I don't know if I hate them.

No, he's still there. Yeah. I don't. I have a hard time hitting them because they never win. You know, it's like they have as many Super Bowls as the Patriots. Greg, you don't understand what it is. Yeah, but none of those counted because they were before

any of us were born. Yeah, it's true. Andy's right. Andy's talking classic, dude, spin zone guy. Greg, you don't understand what it's like. Tonight on Fox News, we have Andy defending the Patriots in any way he can possible. Well, I just got fresh reading a book.

Well, the excerpts of the book called The Asterisk. Uh-huh. Written by a... No, it's written by a... Steelers fan. And, um, I'm trying to... Spit it out, Andy. What is it?

It's all about how the Steelers Super Bowls don't count because they're before this guy was born. Before Andy. No, it's not. It's how the Patriots Super Bowls don't count because, um, Roger Goodell and the Patriots have colluded to cheat the Patriots into six Super Bowl wins. That's, that's...

I'm not going to say the R word, but that's R worded. Racist? Oh, here's the full name of the book. Um, The Asterisk, a fan's grievance on cheating and rule manipulation in the NFL. Four dollars, paperback, if you want. So there's more than just Patriots stuff? I sent another book club episode.

It is not more than just the Patriots stuff. That's the thing. So it's, uh, no, it's a Steelers fan who, uh, ended up living in Portsmouth, New Hampshire of all places and got so sick of arguing with Patriots fans that they weren't cheaters, uh, or the Patriots cheaters and should have all their Super Bowl ship from them. Uh, that he wrote a book.

Dude, the cheater thing and like the, the referees thing is just such a sour grape. Bullshit. You know? Oh yeah. But this is like next level sour grapes. So many fans do that too of like their immediate reaction after teams lose is, you know, you cheated or the ref stood.

Yeah. Jaguar's fans, I think are the worst at the moment. And that AFC championship game where Miles Jack wasn't down. Oh, yes. I mean, to be fair, it's all they got to hang their hat on. Yeah. I mean, you can complain about calls, but they go either way. And like the one, the people that think it's like,

Oh, the NFL wants these teams in the Super Bowl. It's like, they don't give a shit. They're making money. So much money. They don't have to do it. They'd rather not fuck with the golden pig. Yeah. Golden goose.

And actually, I think Super Bowls are probably more watched now if the pages aren't in it. Yeah. I don't think they fuck around with any of that shit. They just try and call them the best they can. And sometimes they do a better job than other times. Yes. I don't think the referees aren't.

It should probably be full-time employees and not have side jobs. I think it's a very hard thing to do to referee a game. So I think this is about as good as you get. Yeah. I mean, I know the. Andy Andy care to comment. Yeah. I think it could be.

I think they could have more help like put more replay cameras around so you get better. Sure. But yeah, I think it could be sped up. Yeah. Like the replay is obnoxious. It takes that long. Right.

Like they what's is it hockey where they have the replay guy in the booth or soccer action now, right? Dude. Go to VAR. The fucking calls it. The hockey does awesome is if you don't get a call, you challenge and you miss it. Penalty penalty.

Yeah. I love the delay again. That's fucking kick ass, dude. So they only challenge things that they're like, we're fucking. I think we're going to get this. Yeah. This is like an obvious overturn. Yeah.

I mean, in this game, even Tony Dungey challenge, the obvious fumble by Harrison at the end of the game. Because it was like a Hail Mary that may be able to get overturned, but it was like fucking penalized in 15 yard or if you get it. And sports and conduct delay a game. You have to play with 10 men making us all watch extra commercials. Yeah. Like 10, 10 men for the rest of the drive.

Now you talk my language here. Yeah. All right, boys. So we will see you next week. In three river stadium. What jersey we wearing? I don't know who's the hero. Tom Brady.

I got a Harrison. Harrison probably deserves a jersey wear at some point. I'd say probably a Dion branch has himself. I got a branch. Save that one for the football. Yeah. Good point, Steve. Good point.

Steve Brown. Yeah. Rodney Harrison is probably one of one. All right. Well, I think that's it for this week. So until next week. I'm getting sick. You guys anyways, especially you, Andy.

Says the guy hasn't showed up in a month. Yeah. Do you want to, do you want to, do you have anything to say about why you weren't there last week? Or are you good? Yeah. I always say that the four people is too many. Okay.

I do it for the fans. Yeah. Oh, all right. So this is, you got people talking over each other. It gets like, it's just doesn't feel like a conversation. It feels like an interview when you have like four people.

I don't, I don't enjoy this podcast to interview people. I haven't a fucking shit like that at work. I don't need to come here and be like, well, excuse me, sir. Like, how did it feel on the first time it stepped onto the field? Tommy Longcock. Yeah.

Tommy Longcock. I'm trying to fuck around with my brothers. No. Talk to fans, people. Let's go eat with them and bang their mouths. Let's go eat with them and bang their mouths. Hopefully moms turn the podcast off at this point. The fuck is that from?

Hang on. Hang on. One more. I knew I'd be shit in pancakes. Yeah. Yeah. But no, you don't remember the, let's go eat with them and bang their mouths.

Is that from the Cam Newton episode? No. No. I think I should have a full story. Yo, I got those chicks from last night lined up. Let's go eat with them and bang their mouths. Oh, I know.

I know what that's from. That's incognito. Yeah. That's a fucking direct quote from. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But no, you don't remember the.

Let's go eat with them and bang their mouths. Is that from the Cam Newton episode? Yeah. That is a direct quote. That's your thing. That one. I don't know. I feel like that might be our sign off.

No. Wait a minute. What about like, Thanks for listening. Don't forget. Bang their mouths. And we had said that a while ago that we had a new sign off. No.

Hmm. So send us out, Andy. What does that mean? Send us out. That means you're right. We'll do a lot of them and bang their mouths. You let us. Yeah.