Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2004 Week 17: Patriots vs 49ers

Episode Date: June 14, 2022

In a game that even the hardcore fans probably don't remember, the 2-13 49ers fill out their contractual obligations by visiting Gillette Stadium to play the New England Patriots. Andy watched this game so you don't have to, but if your morbid curiosity is getting the better of you this game is on Youtube:Full game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUb7IImqZBsHighlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VImv9KGRCvoSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Pages Dynasty podcast. I'm your host, Annie Brown. This is the podcast where we are going back and rewatching every single game. Yes, every single game of the Patriots' Dynasty started in 2001. And this week, we are wrapping up the 2004 regular season week 17 as the woeful at the time 49ers come to town. With me as always are my brothers,

middle brother Steve. How are you, Stephen? I like that you've thrown it back in doing the recording in your car again, Andy. I am, yes. I have been relegated to the vehicle. Relegated or exiled? I mean, they're synonyms. Now that I have a tiny human bow guarding the other recording space that I was using, which was my bedroom and our bow guarding. What's bow guarding mean? Hoarding, basically. It's after Humphrey bow guard. Yeah. I don't know why. I don't know who. I don't even know who Humphrey bow guard is. I'm making. No, I just know the term bow guarding. It means hogging. It means selfishly appropriate or keep something, especially a lit marijuana

cigarette. Yeah, it is big in the in that world from what I've heard. It says Andy. No, I mean, I just, I know. I haven't heard it. Yeah. How do you guys not know that? I do. You know, it's speaking of potheads also with us is Greg Brown, as you may have heard. Greg, how are you? I'm good. I'm just learning about Humphrey bow guard here. Is it really named after him? Because I'm just assuming that come up when you Google, but that makes sense. Yeah. Nickname Bogey. Nickname one bow guard movie. Oh, he's an actor. I literally don't even know who he is. I'm gone with the wind. No, close. Really? Casablanca. Oh, I was right there. Yeah.

Shot in the dark. We don't watch movies growing up. That's the kind of movie we would have wanted to watch anyways. Uh, pro. I remember sitting and watching Pride and Prejudice on VHS with mom, because it was a television and the TV was on. So he's going to watch it. He's blaming mom for us missing out on Casablanca in 1942. That's right. Jesus. I mean, let's be honest. That's the type of movie that dad would rent from Kelly library on VHS and bring home black and white movies. No way. No. No. What were they? He watches those bullshit, like English comedy things, like a red dwarf. Blackadder. Yeah,

we're like, this is not funny at all. It's mildly amusing and it's better than fucking nothing. With my brother's sister. Yeah. Tell me about it. Brothers are the worst. Speaking of the worst, 99% on rotten tomatoes. Casablanca. Sure. Sure. Speaking of the worst, this 49ers team, worst in the NFL, they would end up with the number one draft pick in the following year. Speaking of the worst, this game is the worst. Can we just get that out of the way? Yeah, it's not particularly watchable. Dude, I watched the highlights and I almost didn't make it through that. The highlights are only a minute and 21 seconds long. Yeah, there's not many. There are not

many highlights in this. This is one of those games that you don't even watch in real time. Never mind 20 years later. Yeah, this is the 13 and two Patriots hosting the two and 13 49ers. There's not much intrigue in this. And you watched the whole thing? I did. There was nothing to play for in this game. You watched the whole game. The whole game. You are a baby. What are you doing with your life? You're a sicko, dude. This might be the most outrageous thing you've done. This is worse than the solo podcast. And for all of us, you know, for a prosperity's sake, the Celtics are in the middle of their playoff. It's really playing in the finals right now.

Andy's watching a week 17 meaningless game. Actually, that's a good question. Andy, have you watched any of the Celtics? No. Yeah, got it. For a couple of reasons. One, I don't watch basketball. It doesn't interest me. Don't like black people? No, just not enough violence. Although, from what I've seen on the violence, yeah, there's not enough hitting. Oh, not enough violence. Yeah, not enough violence. I tell you about a guy named Draymond Green. Well, that's what I was going to say. I've been on Twitter, obviously, for our Twitter account. And from the highlights I've seen of Draymond, he seems to be bringing the football back into basketball. So maybe I'll tune in. Also,

the second point is the games start after my bedtime. That's a four month old. That is a legit complaint. Thanks a lot, China. Fucking Shanghai. Like, oh, the ratings are down. Why? Sometimes a naughty boy. China. Let's talk about the Celtics a little bit, though. As we do on this page, it's podcast. Hey, I will give you 60 seconds at Andy. Boston Strong. Go. 60 seconds. You're on the clock. Belichick loves the Celtics. He's been wearing a Celtics hat at his news conferences all week. That's right. You want to talk about in your 60 seconds? Okay. Okay. All right. So this is kind of relatable to the Patriots, though. I want to get your guys opinion on this. There's a lot of

HUBBABALOO about the Boston crowd chanting, fuck you, Draymond. Yeah. Like, fuck you, Draymond. What do you think about that? Is there a baby? Or is that yours, Andy? You know, that is, I believe. That's interesting. Hang on. Let me do this. Well, we don't want the kids hearing what I just said. That's a big no-no. No, no, no. That my phone had connected to Bluetooth, apparently. And my wife has my phone because she's using it as the baby monitor. So. Oh, okay. So that is Karen making an appearance. Wow. I hope you didn't hear me cuss on the podcast. That sounds terrible, Greg.

Anyway, you were talking about the chanting. Yeah. Steve Kerr said it was classless. Um, Thompson said it was classless. Draymond didn't really say anything. His wife went on Instagram and was like, how dare they swear with young children in the thing. And then the worst part is Draymond was in the post-game interview with his son sitting around excellence because like three years old and they're like, how'd you play tonight? He's like, I played like shit. So he's swearing in front of his own child. And the wife's got no problem with that, but a crowd saying it at a 9 p.m. basketball game. Like maybe the wife does have a problem with that. He heard about it when he got home. I'm in for it until it gets racist because like

the soccer, you know, they have swung too far on that pendulum. Yeah. With the monkey chanson, throwing bananas and stuff. Yeah. Throwing stuff. Yeah. Can't be doing that. You can, you can chant. Fuck you. I mean, you're going to a chanting event for an NBA finals. Yeah. We're going to hear some. That's the best part of an English soccer game is, is the quality of the chance that they come up with. Exactly. Yeah. I agree. So that, I think the only problem I have with it is that it's not, it's not interesting enough. Like, fuck you, Draymond. I feel like the Boston crowd can do better than that. Well, that's American sports in general. They don't really. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I agree. Yeah. And football is the weakest too on the chanting. Yeah. Let's play chanting. Let's go. American soccer fans are the worst. Yes. Yeah. American soccer fans just are just fucking, just corny. They make my skin crawl. Go on. How fucking corny they are. I kind of want you to relive this. Give me, give me an example, chant, Greg. Well, they do that. They stole that skull one, right? They do that one. I believe we will win that one's, that one's like at least like, I don't know, it's nice to listen to, but it's corny. Super fucking corny. It sounds it right. Try hard. And I think I figured it out. Why?

Too? Because like, you watch the crowd when they show it in like an English Premier League, and those guys are like the blue collar, like, you know, ship-faced guys that are just funny as it is, like as people. And then you watch a U.S. thing. And it's like, a lot of those guys are fans because it's hipster. And it's like, you know, I want to be different. So I'm a soccer fan rather than just like liking it because you like soccer, you know? So those guys are like the kids that got bullied in high school. They've never been funny to begin with. And they think this is like emboldened them to be in there. Like, I want to fit in with how they sing in Europe, you know? But they don't have the creativity

to come up with anything. They're not naturally funny people. So it just comes out terribly. Is there anything worse than somebody who's not funny that tries to be? Because I used to work with people like that and they are awful to listen to. Yes, Trayvon Green. Trayvon Green is a bitch. And this 49ers team, too. Yes, yeah. So we're done with the cell thing. I'm done with the cell thing. I still got more than the cell thing. I know you do. We can stay on and talk. Maybe you should start a podcast. Yeah, see, let's start our own podcast. Yeah, good. I can be the Greg Brown of that podcast, where I don't want you in the games. I just come up with bullshit to derail it and be perfect.

Yeah, actually. No, Andy, I'm the English soccer fan. You're the American soccer fan in that. Oh, is that right? I don't think so. You want to be like me in bullshit, but he's just, you don't have the skill set. I will say. Start your podcast, Greg. Speaking of not having a skill set, maybe you should start a podcast and then come back to me. Andy, I know what I am, all right? And it's not an organizational guy. Hard to know when you are staying in your lane. I guess so. Speaking of staying in your lane, let's talk about this 49ers team. They did not do very well. They, like we said, two and 14. Their only wins, both of them, came against the Cardinals. Both of them came in overtime.

That's how close they were to being 0 and 16. What was the Cardinals record? They were mediocre. Okay. I don't think they quite made the playoffs, but you can look that up. Stat check. Definitely not losing to the worst team in the league twice. No, no, they were not. I think the Jets are one of the worst teams. No, it was a Dolphins rather, right? Because the night courage wore orange because that rhymes. This was a 49ers team coached by Dennis Erickson, which I don't recognize, except I feel like I had a phone that was made by Erickson back in the day of flip phones. That's the only Erickson I remember. They made an iPod competitor too, if I remember correctly. Oh, maybe, yeah, with Walkman.

That sounds familiar. Yeah, but yeah, Erickson. Spelled slightly differently, I think. But he was almost a 500 coach for the Seahawks for four years and then came and coached the Stumps of Fire to two and 14 and then got fired. The fun fact about him is that out of his 13 challenges in his NFL career, he only managed to win four of them. So good for him. Hadn't figured out the challenges. I think it was early, but no one knows the challenges are anymore. Even then. Well, everybody still gets them now, though. It's like flipping a coin and he comes up heads four out of 13 times, you know? I don't know. That's still a pretty bad. The other coach of note, I think that we will see a lot more of in some fun times is Dan Quinn,

who's a defensive line coach here. He will have quite the history against the Patriots. Of course, he loses here. No surprise, no spoilers. But 2014, he is also the defensive coordinator for the Seahawks who Brady torched in the fourth quarter of that Super Bowl. And then 2016, he hadn't had his fill and he is now the head coach of the Falcons. Brady torched in the second half of a Super Bowl. I don't know if he's still coaching. That was my question. Is he still in the league or did that break him? I feel like a dapp point. No, apparently he is the Dallas defensive coordinator. I think he got fired at midway through 2020. Something like that. Yeah, doesn't say. But I feel like that's what happened. So not a great record since then. But I mean,

he was okay, head coaches, the Falcons. But I mean, I don't think you come back from that defeat. No. And to just to tell you a little bit about this 49ers team, they had one pro bowler. It was their long snapper, long snapper, Brian Jennings. Well, doesn't everyone have to get one? I don't think so. I think we I think we've had Brown's teams that didn't. But they, they, would you say, Greg? I think they changed that. I thought that was baseball that had to have at least one player per team. What's that? I'll step check. All right. But they're draft. When we look at this, we I just look at Wikipedia and it shows like their their table of all their draft picks. And if they're in blue, that means they made the roster.

And if they're in yellow, that means they made at least one pro bowl. And just about every single one of their picks made the roster, which I don't think is a good sign for such a bad team, because that just means they were so bad that they had to start all their rookies. But only one of them ever made a pro bowl. And that is Andy Lee, who was their punter. Who I believe, I don't know if he's retired or not this season, but he as of last I checked, he is the sole active player left from this 2004 draft. He's still playing and he's the only one. Let's see. But this game was on NFL on Fox, which we don't see very often.

And we had Kurt Menefee and Tim Green as the commentators. Tom Green. That's what I thought. But no, Tim Green, who was much less excited. Do you like some sausage? Andy, would you like some sausage? The fact that I cook sausage often for breakfast. And I sing that to myself every time. Dude, he's the man. He's weird as fuck. Yeah. No, no, he's not.

Have you seen him recently? Like in interviews? Recently, no. He's very self-aware. He knew what he was doing the whole time. Oh, I'm sure he did. Yeah. But he's not actually weird. He's just like playing a character. Okay. Hey, that makes sense.

I mean, you still got to have some weird shit going on upstairs. If that's the character you decide to play. I don't know. Some people might call you weird, Andy. They do. Yeah. But I accept it. I don't. I don't try to tell people I'm normal. He doesn't either. But you're normal.

Andy's not playing. Andy's actually weird. Yeah. He's not weird. He's coming for the two of you. Okay, Greg. He's autistic, maybe. ADHD, thank you very much. Ouch.

I feel bad for you, Andy. And I feel bad for Curtis Conway on this team. Curtis Conway. That's the only name I really recognize. But this is his last year of his career. Imagine this is your swan song, the two of 1449ers. Yeah, not great. Well, you don't recognize Kevin Barlow, the running back, or Tim DeTay, or Ken Dorsey, or John Engelberger.

I mean, obviously Ken Dorsey is a fucking legend. Brandon Lloyd was on this team. Who? Brandon Lloyd. Brandon Lloyd. Oh, he was. Did he even play in this game? If he did, he didn't have a catch.

I remember saying, you may have been hurt. I don't know. There's just so many. I like, so, you know, a lot of these old games are like, man, it's a lot of no names. We can see the sprinkling. There's nobody on here. Yeah, there's always like a name like, oh, that guy. That's right. Yeah, I remember him. He was good.

Their defense. This team doesn't have that. No, it's a full defense of no names. Yeah. I don't know. There's nobody. Yeah, their defensive leaders were their strong safety, Tony Parish. No idea.

Defensive and John Engelberger, who I feel like I would have remembered, were he like even anywhere good just because of the name. That's an amazing name. And Derek Smith, their linebacker, led the team. That's such a no-name name. Yeah, Derek Smith is like a madden created player name. Celine Rashid. Arnav's battle was on the team, though.

Oh, well, that far. I remember for him. But let's talk about Dorsey. Let's talk about Dorsey. All right, talk about Dorsey for me, then. He's a legend. Is he? Yeah, he's an all-time underrated guy.

In what way? Like he all he does is win, but he never gets the accolades. Did you realize he was the Miami quarterback, right? Yeah. He was a two-time Heisman finalist. On that team with Ray Lewis and everybody that they made the 30 for 30 about. Yeah. Oh, wait.

You remember being like, oh, Kendrick, he's going to be good. And then you got the NFL. I didn't do shit. Well, he was a seventh round draft pick after being a two-time Heisman finalist. Yep. There was a reason, though, obviously, because he didn't win. He wasn't particularly good in this game. Yeah, but we just talked about how bad the team was.

We talk about the all-time, the circumstances of the quarterback. I don't think he got a fair shake. Yeah. You throw him on a team like this. It's like he played for the Browns, too, after this. So it's not really like he ever stood a chance. It's true. But you could also say that this team, the year after they had the first overall pick,

took Alex Smith, who similar skillset, would you say? To the Ken Dorsey? I guess. Yeah. And he turned the team around. Alex Smith. Did he, though? Did he, though?

Comparatively, yeah. Maybe Andy's just not giving any credit to Kaepernick. Yeah. Interesting. Kaepernick came after this. Also, he doesn't watch basketball. Fuck basketball. Makes you wonder, Steve, doesn't it?

I'm just pointing out the facts here. A Ken Dorsey who couldn't beat out Tim Rete. I feel like that's probably not a plus. Why are you a Ken Dorsey hater? I'm just a realist, Greg. Do you know what Ken Dorsey's doing right now? What's he doing right now selling cars? No.

He's the offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills. Is he really? Yeah. He was the quarterback's coach and Brian Daybaugh left. All right. He got promoted to offensive coordinator. No way. So we will actually see how good he is.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so suck on that, Andy. You know the number one offense in the NFL? Yeah, the one that he wasn't the offensive coordinator of? Well, he's the quarterback's coach of the best quarterback in the NFL. No. Josh Allen's bum.

Unless Steve. Unless yes. Is that right? We'll see. We got to win that Super Bowl. I can't believe I didn't even I thought he was just gone from the NFL. Yeah, I figured he'd be like trying to sell crypto to people these days. Hey, now I understand.

Do you remember me? It's Ken Dorsey. And my buddy Joe Namath. He doesn't be selling in Florida, not San Francisco. Hey, Miami, go to you. Yup. Speaking of the you, Vince Wilfork in this game. Was he you?

Was he? Yeah, he was at the U. Yeah, he was on that. Rookie Vince Wilfork. Starting to show his why he is Vince Wilfork in this game. One of the highlights, one of the few highlights is when he puts the center on skates, basically picks him up and throws him at the running back, causing running back to fumble, which was recovered by, I believe, Earthwind Moreland of all people.

So if you're the type of person who's looking for an Earthwind Moreland's highlight, that will be your one. You came to the right place. Yeah, I don't know if there'll be another. So get it while you can. What are some negative things that happen in this game for the Patriots? Their streak of 20 games scoring first, remember? We talked about that, like the fact that they had done this so long actually ended

in this game of all of all games because the 49ers actually scored touchdown first because the Patriots drove down the field twice to open the game. Then Corey Dillon fumbled the first time and then Brady got picked off the second drive, which set up there. The 49ers opening TD. The 49ers would not score again. I'm not even sure they crossed midfield again. Watchability score probably one in this game.

This might be the worst game that we've seen. They go, they miss a field goal in the second quarter. They did. And nothing, 39 yard chippy. Yeah, it didn't go. That's when it turned because then the Patriots scored again. That was it. Yeah, that was the end of it.

And then they had their chance. They can talk Peterson. Yeah. Who the hell is that? Like they don't even have a no-no. Pond, pond, pond, fumble, downs, fumble, end of game. And this was also like a 49ers scene that like they got the ball. They actually picked off Brady a couple of times.

Or no, they picked him off and then had a strip sack. Like under two minutes. And they had all three time outs and they're at like their own 30 or something like that. And they tried one deep shot and then it didn't work. So they just like ran out of the clock. It was ridiculous. And they interviewed the head coach. He's like, well, you know, we tried, but we got sacked.

So we didn't we don't want to give the ball back to him. So we just ran out of the clock. Like, well, that's when the game ended. Seven seven at half. Yeah. Take that as a two and 13 team. I guess. But that was kind of a goal.

It was like showing that you didn't trust your team though. All right. Why would you trust them? They're two and 13. Well, I mean, fumble the ball and give it away. But yeah, at halftime, because this was an NFL on Fox, you get the NFC commentators. So one of the quotes was the thing that is undone knowing that all season are their turnovers.

Now, he says about a team coming in 13 and two on the scene. So yeah, undone all the time, but they showed some stat that said the Patriots over the past two years are 30 and four. And all four of those losses, they had at least four turnovers. And at the half, they had three. So, I mean, it's understandable why they're kind of trying to bring that up. But like, yeah, you're not going to win a game with four turnovers generally. Yeah, radio is those are the meltdown games.

Well, you had one couple of weeks ago against the Dolphins when Courage wore orange, Steve. Yes. To four picks. Stupid fucking thing. Yeah, but he doesn't have meltdown games anymore. Like this is this back in these days, he used to have like one every once in a while, like at least one a season.

Right. Like in 2001, I remember you threw like four picks in the fourth quarter against the Broncos. Yep. After starting his career never having thrown an inception in like a few games, then he got them all out in once. I'm surprised they didn't make more of this being a Tom Brady revenge game, though, because this was the news where like, you know, Brady was from San Mateo and like grew up loving the 49ers in Joe Montana.

And then like being salty that the 49ers didn't draft them. I'm going to guess that whoever is a GM in 2000 is no longer the GM on the two and 13 team. Oh, can we stat check that? Who was the who was the 49ers GM in 2000? Greg. I don't know. I don't know.

He's such a good stat. I tried to look at the Pro Bowl question. I couldn't find an answer. Killing it. Well, I'm glad we keep you around right here. Terry Donahue, he was a GM in 04. Who was it in 2000 when they could have drafted Tom Brady? I've got to the bottom of that.

He was 2001 GM. Oh, so then who was 2000? They got fired for not drafting Tom Brady in 2001. So speaking of getting fired, though, Gerard Cherry in this game was like playing like a bat out of hell, doubting punts at the goal line. But they're talking about how he was actually waived and re-signed this week. So I think somebody. GM 2009ers Bill Walsh.

Aha. Oh, two days. Yep. Two days. Probably should have drafted the next show in Montana. But no, well, who was it that said that they had like a third round? There's someone famous.

Bill Polian. Bill Polian. Yeah. He said he had a first round on him or something stupid. Yeah. Well, I assure you that that's why he didn't draft. That's the quickest way for me to fucking think you're a phony. Yeah.

It's to say shit like that. We didn't see it coming. We got that one wrong. That's fine. This is like, you're not going to get everyone right. But to be like, yeah, well, I saw it coming. I just, you know, I didn't do it. Right.

Right. That is the biggest sack of shit line. If you know, you're so good. Why didn't you draft it? So, oh, yeah. No, I knew the Celtics were going away. I just didn't say that. Yeah, I thought I definitely thought before the game.

I just didn't tell anybody. Yeah. She did. Put that money where your mouth is. Let's see what else. So the difference between these two teams was basically shown in the first quarter. The Patriots driving down their first drive,

Corey Dillon fumbles the ball, catches the screen pass, and gets knocked out as he's going to the ground. 49ers for cover. And then they immediately have three penalties in a row. They have holding and then holding and then a false start. So they're now at first in 34, which is not a great way to take advantage of a turnover. But then they would eventually score a touchdown

and the Patriots immediately march straight on the field and tie the game on a Mike Rable. We're going to touchdown catch, which just kind of shows the difference in resiliency between the two teams, I think. And also the fact that... This? Yeah.

It's a meaningless week 17 game, though. That's what we have to put. We have to view all of this through the lens of... Yeah. Nobody on that field really gives a shit about the final score. They're just playing to either not get hurt or try and get signed by someone next year. Maybe.

Yeah, I watched that highlight and it was a fourth quarter Corey Dillon touchdown where Rohan Davy hands off to Corey Dillon and just nobody even wants to touch him and Corey doesn't want to get hit. He just kind of falls over a little bit. Like the Pro Bowl. Yeah.

NFL is not worth playing if you're not playing at 100%. Right. It's almost insulting to the game of football. You know? That's true. I do think this 49ers defense was playing till the end. The offense gave up. At the half.

Have you ever guys been on a team where you just like give up? Every team, Greg. Steve's the reason the teams give up. I'm in the middle of thinking that guy is who gives a fuck. You know? He's like the first one that like undoes their tie at a wedding where everyone just like dominos after that. Yeah.

Well, actually I'm the opposite now. I got a new strategy. I keep it on the whole time. You're the last guy with tie. Dude, I got a I got a new one. It's tie the tie around your head. That's that guy. I figured Steve would be that guy.

I think I could shake his wild with that guy. That ain't new. I always pictured Steve as the the tie around your head guy. Oh, yeah, we've all been. I mean, I'm the one splits the pants right up the ass seam, you know? That is true. You have just once though, right?

Well, one time I remember. Yeah. I tell everybody that story. It's pretty good. He's just got a dunk. He doesn't know where to put it. Steve Steve's bill for weddings. Yeah, yeah.

Thank God I got three in three weeks in October. Yikes, dude. Glad I'm done with that. Yeah, but as you alluded to Steve, the the starter did not play in the fourth quarter. Rohan, even though the score was only 14-7 Patriots, future of the Patriots, Rohan Davy. Rohan Davy.

Rohan Davy, a linebacker playing quarterback. Dude, he's the man. He's huge. He can move, too. Throw on the run. He almost threw a dart of touchdown. He was the head of his time. If Rohan Davy comes out now, he's by a first round pick.

Rohan Davy is like tools. Oh, so toolsy. He's like a Jacobi Berset. I think that I think that's probably his ceiling. It's Jacobi Berset. I think he's just too big. He was a big guy, but he could move though, just like Jacobi could.

Yeah. Can. I think he's 2-2-2-45. That's a big boy. He's a big boy. Yeah. But I mean, everybody's bigger than that in those days. Like, what were the linebackers back then?

He's Jamaican. Had to be big. Rohan Davy rules, dude. Yeah. Did you know he was player of the year in NFL Europe? I did, actually. Yeah. 6-5-2-3-4.

Like, he tore it up in NFL Europe. Berlin Thunder. Yeah. They're bringing that back. NFL Europe. Really? Yeah, it's called the expanded team, George. Hello.

That's about right. Jags aren't good enough for that. No, we actually want some real players. Jacksonville just ends up coming in last in NFL Europe. Well, I think the rule is you're only allowed to roster. I want to say it's four football players from America on each team, a maximum of four, and only two of them or two or three of them

can be on the field at the same time. So that's cool. They're definitely trying to get homegrown talent to play these games. Most of the teams, I think, are in the Germany area with a few here and there. I think there's a couple like Italian teams. Things like that.

The Germans like football. Apparently, yeah. Well, the NFL is going to Germany this year, isn't it? Yeah. There's a plane over there, yeah? Yep. Where? We have a couple games.

Munich, I'm assuming. Alliance Arena. Yeah. I think the tickets were surprisingly affordable when they came out. You going to go, Andy? I'm not. Why?

Because I have a four-month-old. Oh. Yeah, that's pretty little enough. I'm just going to go to the grocery store about myself as like an adventure. By that point, you can be able to loot some food and water out for him. He'll be fine.

Yeah, he'll see himself. Just give him a couple shots of Jack. Yeah, he'll be fine. Put him up for a few hours. Yep. That's all I need to go to Germany to watch football game, a couple hours. He'll be fine.

A red-eyed thing. A red-eyed there and back again. Go for the weekend. Can you name the Davey Five? The Five Quarterbacks Drafted ahead of Rohan Davey. Absolutely not. And Dorsey. No, this is 2002.

David Carr, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey, Josh McCown, and David Garard. So you could argue that he was on par with all of those, and the Patriots got him for cheek. All of those names are better. Yeah, I'm on team Greg here. Except maybe Patrick Ramsey. I don't know.

I think it's a situational thing, Greg. I think it's a situation you don't know because he had to sit behind Tom Brady the whole time. Maybe he was as good as them talent-wise. Maybe you just didn't get his chance. I agree with that. It's just a good word. Yeah.

But as far as like accomplishments, you know, Joey Harrington really put up those accomplishments. I think Joey Harrington. More people know the name Joey Harrington than know the name Rohan Davey. Not to listen to this podcast. Also, starting NFL games, as opposed to being a backup, is for sure more accomplished, even if you lose those games.

It is telling that he never plays for another team. Yeah. If you can win a starting job. Or maybe the Patriots just really valued him so much that they wouldn't let him go. He only played for Patriots. He spins on Brown over there. He literally let him go after the season.

This is the last game he shows up in. That's fine. You know how he ended up losing his job? Doug Flutey. Doug. Really? Mm-hmm. Okay.

According to wikipedia.com, upon returns of the Patriots, he lost his backup job. Job to Doug Flutey and lost the third string slot to Matt Castle. Oh, we're interesting. Four shadowing. Rohan's middle name is St. Patrick. That's pretty dope.

Yeah, I think he gets lit on St. Patrick. Rohan St. Patrick's Davey? Dude, this guy rules. From Jamaica. Why St. Patrick a thing in Jamaica? I think its religion is the same everywhere, isn't it? Yeah, I guess. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, it's probably a good one. You know, the Jamaicans in the Irish state, I feel like they have a similar vibe, no? Jamaicans in Irish? Yeah. What? See, I view them as complete opposites.

I got similar vibes. Lay back. I know Irish people are like miserable, drunken pricks that live in a terrible climate and are super pasty. Jamaicans are like, yeah, man. Well, I was going to bring raisin to that. I was talking about, no, I think they're vibing.

The Irish love to have a good time. Jamaicans love to have a good time. That's true. The times that they have, the good times that they have are slightly different. Yeah, I guess. I just see. Vibes are a little more cynically.

The vibes are similar. That's all I'm saying. Seems like he's a consultant now. Oh, yeah, he's not the offensive coordinator of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or something. I was hoping for something like that. I got a consultant at Money Management International, which is so big.

Dude, he played arena football. Everybody played arena football. There was a player in this game, I think, who the guy that picked off Tom Brady played. They were talking about how he played in the AFL 2, the second division arena football. Really? Yeah.

Where you only got paid. You got paid 50 bucks if your team won the game. Oh, interesting. And that was a few years ago. And now he's starting quarterback on the awful, but starting quarterback in the NFL for the 49ers and picking off Tom Brady. So, I mean, that's that's something you bring your kids.

All right. Can tell your grandkids one day I picked off Tom Brady. Don't worry about it. But speaking of Money Management, Steve, Corey Dillon in this game achieved one of his incentives, which was going over 1,600 yards and he matched it. So he got an extra 375K for his 100-yard rushing game this game, which is the first time running back went over 1,600

in like a very long time for the Patriots. And since, right? Yeah. I don't think anybody has since. Definitely not. No. I guess I got a question or not a rhetorical, but who is the all who's the all-time Patriots backup quarterback?

Tom Brady. Oh, nice, Andy. It's a good one. I mean, in the sense that they never played, they never like came to fruition. So no Castle, no Brady, no Cam. Well, you know, your account or is it about Brissette? Boyer counts, Brissette counts.

But Brissette started. Yeah. Why doesn't Castle? Yeah. But I mean, like a season, they didn't play a season. So play like two seasons. Michael Bishop. Michael Bishop.

That's who I was thinking too. What? Michael Bishop, all-time backup. Everybody was so hyped on Bishop. And then you could throw Garoppolo in that too. Yes. That's great. Garoppolo made it to a Super Bowl.

I don't think you can throw him in that same thing. Yeah. But I mean, if you can't put Matt Castle in there, then you can't put. I'm viewing it through this lens of the guy that was the backup that everybody used to be like, you've watched my preseason goal. He looked pretty good with the second unit.

Maybe, you know, maybe there's something there. Like we used to say that with Bishop all the time. We used to say that with Davy. We used to say that with Garoppolo. Hoyer, everyone kind of knew sucked. Let's do them. Who was the... Yeah, let's did.

Yeah. What was the one, Greg, when we went to the preseason practice? And it was like right after Brady was good. It was around this time. He's a head coach now. Oh, yeah. The guy from Texas Tech. Yeah.

Yeah. What's his name? It was an O'Connell. He was after the fancy looking guy. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. LA. Yeah.

Arizona. Say it again, Steve. Patrick Mahomes. No. Oh, you should have made him repeat it because it's so dumb. Arizona head coach. Someone up there is like Cliff Kingsbury. That's him.

Yes. Cliff Kingsbury. That's a good one, too. Yep. And then Kevin... You were high on him. You're like, he's the next home break. It's got to be Garoppolo.

He had by far the most hype around him. Yeah. I think he was just too young to remember. Because he came in and started the Dolphins game and he played three quarters and was lit and then immediately got hurt. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's a...

Talk about a flash in the pan. I was at that game. We were all so hyped up. I mean, Brissette was the same, though. I mean, he had that game where he ran for the touchdown. No, no, no, no. And Jimmy Greaves was different. His release, how quick it was.

And he was the second round pick. So people were like, well, that was true. That was like, I must have seen something in him. I think he did. I mean, he's good when he's not hurt. Yeah. He's really good. He just always hurt.

Best... The best abilities availability, right, Greg? That's right. All right. Bishop, though. Bishop was awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

He was backing up Drew Bledsoe, and they would bring him on, basically, only to throw Hail Marys. And he completed one once. And I was like, why isn't he playing more? But what I believe he couldn't... He had struggled to learn the playbook or something like that, because he was from Kansas, I think. He was seventh round draft pick.

Yeah. And so he just... Like, I remember there being... They'd bring him in on goal line situations, too, to run the option. And he would still like... They'd have to be like false starts, and delay a game, something like that.

So it just didn't quite work out. Also on that topic, speaking of guys who flash, but never did quite work out, Bethel Johnson had a pretty decent game. He had a very Bethel Johnson game. Let me see. I like Bethel Johnson as well, Greg. I think Bethel Johnson is a lot better than I had in my head.

Yeah, I agree. But he always just can't stay on the field. Is the problem. Like, half the games, it's like, he was not dressed to play because he didn't participate well in practice this week or something like that. That was Steve. Yeah.

What, not participating in practice? That's not true. Yeah. But he actually... That was a slide on Ty Quam Thornton when they drafted in this year. They said, oh, you know, there's enough stuff with Johnson. And he's actually like, Bethel's good.

He's really good in these games. He was actually returning punts in this game. First, Bunny did. He took it to the house, but he got called back for... And if he blocked in the back, that didn't actually need to be blocked, which is stupid. That was the worst. But he also had a deep bomb from Rohan

that he just let go right through his hands right at the end of the game. So kind of a typical... So you thought the referee was bad, Andy? Referee was fine. What about the commentator? These referees were definitely like, let's get the fuck out of here.

We're not calling anything. Let's clip that one, Steve. He just said the referee was fine. Yeah. It's all good. I don't believe... I don't believe my ears. All right.

How do you think the refereeing's banned in the NBA playoffs? One game was bad. The other one's been good. Yeah. It hasn't been bad in the finals, actually. That was a lot better than the heat in the Buc series. It was atrocious. But you want physical basketball.

You should have watched the Buc series, Andy. Yeah. That was football. I don't want physical basketball. I want violence. You said there's not violence. Yeah. There's a lot of violence.

That's not violence. You like concussions? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not for the players' sake, no. But for entertainment's sake, there's nothing better. I'm watching a big hit. I mean, what was that segment that they used to have?

You got lit up, whatever hell it was. Yeah. They had fucking VHS videos of NFL's greatest hits. And it was just like people getting their heads taken off. Yeah. I can't watch. Lawrence Taylor blindsided quarterback for like 45 minutes on VHS. It's different when they have a helmet on.

Like compared to like MMA, I can't watch MMA. Oh, you're not going to. And they like knock someone out and then just smoke them in the face like twice when they're on the ground. Yeah. Before the referee can get there to break it up. It's brutal. You're going to have a different kind of mind to be able to be like,

I knocked this guy out, but I'm going to hit him until somebody tears me off of him. Just in case. Yeah. Fucking yeah. Crazy. Yeah. Crazy is. Jesus.

All right. Want to do a best and worst? Actually, no, Greg, didn't you want to talk about the playoff picture before we do that? Oh, boy. Yeah. That's what I thought. We're doing it live.

Let's do it live. Fuck it. I would love to see a podcast you ran. All right. So I will see here 2004 standing. All right. So division winners. Let's let's talk division winners.

Right. Obviously, the Pats win the East. Pittsburgh Steelers are the number one seed in the AFC for the 15 and one record. Who was that last tee? Da. Well, it was a Ravens, I think. It was week one, whatever it was. Yeah.

Yeah. Because it was a week one or two. One. Because Ben Rothster comes in week two. Rothesburg. Yeah. But I think that could have been the loss, but it wasn't a game you started. So it didn't go.

This is my segment. We'll answer the fucking questions then. Yeah. This is a stupid question. Fact check it. All right. Back to business. AFC South, the Indianapolis Colts 12 and 4.

The West Chargers 12 and 4. So the usual suspects in the AFC. Pats, Steelers, Colts, Chargers, Broncos and the Jet Sneak in as the wild cars. Okay. Yes. And the bills, they were saying in this game, the commentators, bills were the team that got hot late and nobody wanted to play them if they made the playoffs.

So probably good for AFC. The bills did not make the playoffs. They finished the game out. But these Colts, they also talked about them and they put up a little stat thing about them. Peyton Manning set the NFL record for 49 touchdown passes. Most touchdown passes ever break into a Marino's record. So second straight AFC South title. They also had three wide receivers on this team with a thousand yards and 10 touchdowns,

which had never been done the NFL before. So this is a fucking offense of wagon. Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and can you name the third guy? Dallas Clark. No. Here Garcon Brandon Stokely and Dwight Freny leads the NFL with 16 sacks. And the number two offense in the league became the city chiefs when seven and nine. I'm gonna split.

Oops. Oopsie daisies. So what does the NFC look like? NFC. NFC East. The NFC sucked. Yeah. NFC East.

The Eagles wanted at 13 and three. The only team to finish above 500. Giants, Cowboys, and Redskins all had six wins. NFC North, our good buddy Favre, 10 and six wins the division. Vikings are in at eight and eight as a wild card. Oof. Falcons win the South 11 and five and the Seahawks win the West nine and seven. And the Rams get in with an eight and eight record.

So two 500 teams as your wild cards dog shit conference. Yeah. Two 500s and nine and seven. Two nine and sevens. One nine and seven. There's only one team that had less than six losses. Good Lord. And that's the one.

So basically the Eagles had a cakewalk to the Super Bowl, which is the only reason they got there because this is their fourth attempt, I think, getting to the NFC championship game. They finally. Well, the Andy breakthrough. Yeah. Andy and Donovan. But it sounds like they had a cakewalk to do it.

So we've got Colts, Broncos, Chargers, Jets, Pattons and the Steelers get a buy. All right. So wait, who are the Colts playing? The Colts are playing the Broncos. Colts, Broncos. Oh, I think I remember that game. That was a game where nobody punted.

Yeah. Yeah. Absolute barn burner. That was last year. I think the Colts did that last year too. I think they do it back in the back years. Until they meet the Patriots. And yeah, we all know how that goes.

Yeah. I'm excited about this, this playoff run. I did like that they showed the place where they hang the banners in New England, like they had them on the walkway. And there's only two. And just so empty with just the two banners. Like, oh, that's coins. I remember those days.

All right. So that's the playoff thing. Yeah. Yeah. MVP, Peyton Manning, of course. Who's the best player of the year? Walter Peyton, man of the year, work done. Okay.

Work done. He's done like a shit ton of work. He like builds people houses, I think now. He's a super big humanitarian. Didn't he? He did. He built a house for somebody famous. I think I might have been like Lamar Jackson or something.

Really? Yeah. I think I saw a segment on that. Looked that shit up, Andy. Defensive player of the year, Ed Reid. Big Ben, rookie of the year for offense. And Jonathan Vilma, AP defensive rookie of the year. He had to pick six against the Rams in this final week to send the

just to the playoffs. Interesting comeback player of the year, Drew Brees. Oh, that's right. With the Saints, right? This is his first year on the Saints. I believe. I think he's still on the Chargers, isn't he? Let's take a looksie poo here.

No. Yeah, Drew Brees still on the Chargers. Because that's why they shipped him out is because he had what was it like elbow ishers or something like that? The elbow or something like that. I could be wrong. It's crazy to think about Drew Brees's Chargers days like that. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I thought he was okay and then got hurt and then got shipped out. I know he went to the playoffs. He must get shipped out after this year. Must have, yeah. Greg, so you were close, but it's not as happy a story anymore. Oh, no. By providing families with a positive home environment, WCB is below.

In 2006, one of these homes that Dunn built through his charity. Happened to go to the family of future NFL player. Sean Watson. Oh, no. How many how many women were molested in that house? He's like, can you meet me at my childhood home? It's only like 30 minutes away. Oops.

So let's talk about that bull circle. Let's talk about that. Do you think the Sean Watson plays this year? No, probably not. Probably not. Well, they suspended who was the Ridley for gambling on football for a year. Which is crazy. Yeah.

And so it's got to be more than that, right? I think it's so inconsistent. They can't really. Yeah. 66. Oh, that's just so much. In 17 months. Yeah.

Just think about the logistics of that. Right. It's a new misuse every week. Dude, I can't even text this group chat once a week. We know. And this guy's out here. Getting you to show up on a fucking podcast is a goddamn full-time job. Buttering him up and then presenting his penis.

That's a lot of effort, dude. He's got like multiple sizes for him, too. He's fucking criminally horny. Yeah. And the fact that the Houston Texans kind of like provided him hotel rooms and NDAs and shit. NDAs. They gave him an NDA. Fuck.

Yeah. Just fucking Google it. How do you feel about Robert Kraft's thing as well, though? It's different. It's different. But it's also something. See to me. You're both getting handys from masseuses.

Yeah. But to me, the issue is the volume, dude. Like if you if if someone just went to some fucking massage parlor that they knew. Right. Like I didn't know that I wouldn't happen. I would never do that. But whatever this guy's got to think. But this guy is 66 different women.

Yeah. Like that is like that. How does he even have the time to do that? And he's got to be so like kind of like screw loose, deranged, criminally horny to even go through with that. Something that that just strikes me as something that I would never even conceive of doing. Right. Yeah. I could see myself doing like never in a million years.

No. That's just so hard. And to think you think you can get away with it. Right. You think six women were just not going to say anything about him just pulling his dick out at a massage. That's crazy. Right. He got away with it 66 times.

Like he almost did get away with it. Get away with it. Devoided criminal charges. Yeah. I feel record contract. Yeah. He got $230 million guaranteed fucking ridiculous. Crazy season of money.

That's why when people are like Kaepernick, you know, like they're black ball on them. It's like, no, if you're good enough, they'll look past anything in the world. You know what I'm saying? Unless, yeah, I suppose unless it goes against the shield. I mean, just look at the dance nighter stuff. I think they don't like that. There's a whole lot of smoke now about him getting released because or him having to sell the team because the it came out that he was shorting NFL money and he was like cooking the books on

like how much they were making. Really? Yeah. I didn't really. And so there's a whole bunch of like like owners and stuff coming up. I'd be like, well, you know, maybe we'll have to take a bone and all this shit. Okay, dude. I'd love to see him go down.

All the shit he's done. The reason he gets let go is because he's hiding money from the NFL. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, there's a rice video and then you're just like, whatever. And then it came out and they got to do something. Right. Yeah. If it as long as it doesn't hurt the shield, they're fine with it.

And I think maybe you could argue that. So like he is hurting the shield because yeah, Watson's hurting the shields. He is now. Yeah. But it was also one of those calculated risks of, you know, yeah, if you're over like all the other. Exactly. If you're good enough.

The Browns calculated wrong. What a surprise. Can you imagine if they're out three first round picks, $230 million. They can't wait three first round to three first rounds. Yeah. Three first round. Oh my God. Yeah.

And Baker Mayfield still on the roster and won't play. Won't play. No, dude, Baker's never going to play there. No, he will not. This could be an all time meltdown from a franchise standpoint. All time. Yeah. They were so close and then they just, oh man.

That just made me really happy. Push the big red button. Correct. It's the most Browns shit ever because they were like starting to turn around. They had like a good squad. Like gave the Chiefs a run in the playoffs. Oh, fantastic. Man.

That's awesome. Yep. So good. Jesus. Anyways, Roe v. Roe v. Wade. What do you think of that, Andy? Very no. Tell me your thoughts on you've all the taxes.

I will not. Okay. Get rid of all doors. No, no, no doors. No doors. No ceilings. No windows. Right.

Just just helicopter them in and then they they helicopter them out once they graduate. Yeah. Dude, I think we should all just be like the matrix where they put us in those pods and they just download thoughts and dreams into our brains. And then we're completely safe because we're in the pods. Completely safe. Yeah. How do you know we're not in the matrix right now, Greg?

And we're happy. Well, because we're not happy, Andy. Well, maybe it'll just maybe once we get to a certain level of unhappiness, they just reset it and start over like rebooting a computer. I'm happy. I'm happy as a dog and shit. You seem happy. The dogs and shit aren't happy.

Pigs and shit. Pigs and shit. I don't think dogs enjoy. Well, actually, some dogs do enjoy rolling in their own shit air to comment. If they get some gross snow on the ground, they'll rub themselves all over it. Yeah. So yeah, we have friends that we saw recently. They have two dogs and one of them apparently they used to live in California.

So they're on the beach and they let the dogs off the leash and one ran away and they go and go get it. And they saw him rolling around in something that turned out to be the carcass of a dead seal. Yeah. And they both threw up trying to clean the dog afterwards. It smelled so bad. And the dog was unbelievably happy. Oh, yeah.

I'll bet he's camouflaged. So good. Some fucking seal guts, dude. Seal guts just fall over your body. He's rolling in it. Unbelievable. Rancid. Yeah.

All right. It's like when we were back at the old house by the lake, I was like walking along the shoreline and like walking on rocks because it was kind of the water was kind of down. And I stepped on one and I was like, oh, that's a furry rock. And it was just a dead beaver. Fucking gross. Gross, dude. Freak me out for years.

Never. I he's just like fucking super careful about where I walked after that. Yeah, she's nasty. Yeah. What's the beaver population around here, guys? Around where? We live in different places. He's walking.

He's gotta check it. Check the stats. Google it, Greg. North Carolina beaver population. Oh, he knows. Every time you go to the pier. He doesn't have to go easy as I already do. Are we still talking about the same beavers?

It's like half of them, right? It's 50-50. They have a touch, dude. They have a thing in Darrow. It's called the beaver queen pageant. The beaver queen pageant. No, no, I heard you. I just.

Okay. I don't really know where it came from, but it's like they do like a newsletter in the neighborhood. They hand out like fires. It's like a big thing. Girls will dress up as like a beaver and do whatever creative thing they can do. And like clockwork.

Every time something gets given to us about beaver queen, I was like, oh, Kelly, wasn't that your nickname in high school? I probably made that joke like 60 times. And it just keeps getting funnier and funnier. And you fucking cat about it every time, don't you? This is a fucking hilarious beaver queen. The best part about a joke is that only you need to find it funny for it to be funny.

Yeah, dude, it just fills me with joy just thinking about it. Oh boy, that's my best of the week. Beaver queen jokes. Yeah. The other go to line is not the name of your sex tape. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that probably works for beaver queen. Oh, that could be you.

That you could be the beaver queen. Yeah. Give me your sex tape. That's true. So you should mix it up next time. No, no, stay with the original Greg. Just not in the ground. Repetition.

Yeah. That's what makes it funnier. Got to get your rabbit to the ground. Yeah. All right. So that's your best. What's your worst, Greg? Week 17 football day.

You should just make a rule where if it doesn't affect either team, you can just sit it out. Isn't that why they're all typically? They're all divisional games now, aren't they? Yeah. Although now there's an 18th week. And so who knows? Yeah, sure.

I guess they'll never do that, huh? That a film needs their buckaroosh. Even here's a hot take. Preseason football is better than week 17 football. Yes, there's more excitement. That's a very hot take. I didn't disagree completely. No way.

Yeah. No, that's not the fourth preseason game. This sort of week 17, it's just meaningless. It's less meaningless than. No, because of preseason, you're like excited about the rookies. Your first time getting to see them. They're like, oh, that could be good, you know? Week 17, you're like, I don't give a shit.

Just give me the playoffs. Or you're like, or the 49ers like, I don't care. So I'm going to the home. I don't even want to watch. We're on the clock. Who are we drafting? That's what Chris Berman said in the highlights. What?

He's like the Patriots versus the 49ers who are already on the clock. Yeah, they were. They were locked up that number one draft pick where they use to pick Alex Smith. And then a third round, they drafted Frank Gore. So not a bad draft. Wow. Yeah.

A couple of stalwarts. I guess that's what happens when you pick first and each round. Yes. So. All right, Steve, you got any best and worst? I have a best and worst one thing. Same thing. Yep.

Okay. And his name is Jeff Carr. Yeah, I knew we were going to call him out. Why is he your best? Just because he didn't have, he didn't come on here. And that's nice. So we'd have to talk to him. Okay.

And your worst is the fact that you know him. You care to explain the context of who Jeff Carr is. It's the worst because it's the worst decision he ever made. He was our friend growing up in New Hampshire. And it's like, I don't know, it's for the 49ers because I like Jerry Rice. That's it. That was his whole thought process. That was odd.

I mean, I was like that too. But, you know, then I graduated third grade and realized it was the point. But he's like a huge Red Sox fan. So it didn't make any sense. It's not like. He's a Celtics guy. Yeah. He loves the Bruins.

Yeah. Loves everything but the Patriots. And then why? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to pick three of them, but not the fourth. And he did it like right before like Tom Brady. And so he has to sit there. And this is the first time the Niners have come up and just think about his poor life there. What does he say is rational?

It's just like. I like Jerry Rice. That is it. I've asked him so many times. So nice. I loved Jerry Rice too. Oh, yeah. I had a huge Montana and Steve Young fan.

Love Joe Montana. I had his. The Falcons. I had his Joe Montana's action figure. Remember those little starting lineup guys? I remember that. I fucking love that one. I had that Jerry Rice poster in my room for you.

I used to play. I play with that so much that the numbers rubbed off. It's just like a blank jersey now. Nope. Phrasing. We're in borderline here. Very naughty. All right.

So your best and worst is. And yet I happen to play with things a little too much for any of his kids. That's right. He used to call me Beaver Queen in high school. Beaver King. No, they call me Beaver King. Definitely not Beaver King. It was it was a very hurtful being called Beaver Queen.

Beaver King. All right. Best and worst. I can I revise my worst? My worst is you watching this game, Andy, which is just a psychopath move. No, you cannot revise that. All right.

All right. Go ahead. And I literally just had it on my computer while I was working. So only half watched it. But I watched enough to take enough notes to carry this podcast since neither of you actually watched a fun game. The best is the Patriots tie the best record after winning a Super Bowl. 14 and 2.

I didn't have enough time to go back and find out who the other team is. So if you know and you let us know who it was and you're correct, well, we'll send you a t-shirt. How about that? 49ers. Dallas Cowboys. Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, we can we can guess all the fucking want.

But Neil, none of you know if that's correct. So if somebody sends us a correct answer, one of us on social media or something, you can find it on the website, passpod.com, find out all social media. If you send us the correct answer, we will send you a t-shirt. So that was the best. Also, I don't know if this is the best or the worst,

but they showed a list of the most, the quarterbacks with the highest winning percentage since 1970. Because this time, Tom Brady was top with a 771 percentage. Other four quarterbacks in the top five, Jim McMahon, Danny White of the Cowboys, Dan Marino and Mark Rippin. Fucking random assortment of quarterbacks to be on the winningest quarterbacks list. Danny White.

Danny White. Yeah, I mean, he was old school. Back when the Cowboys were good, I think, like Roger Starbuck era ish, I believe. But Jim McMahon, he was. What was Tom Brady's winning percentage? 770. Jim McMahon was 754.

That was with the 85 Bears era. It's still current. Danny White was 738. Still not bad. Dan Marino, 705. So the fact that he won that many games, that's such a high clip and never won a Super Bowl is pretty rough. And then Mark Rippin of the Washington at the time, Redskins, 689.

Best winning percentage since 1970, which is a little ridiculous. 764. We got a bi-week next week, right? Brady's set to 64. There is a bi-week. He's he's Brady's actually better now. No, 764. OK, he's 770.

He's gone down slightly. Still top of that list, though. What a bum. Oh, yeah, no. So, yeah, the Pagers will have a bi in the first round of the playoffs. And after that, we will be up. What's that? I got an idea.

Bi-weeks, we should watch a pre-dynasty game instead. I've got a couple that I could recommend. Yeah, because then we can just pick and choose whichever one. Then we can watch like sick games. OK. I mean, I'm going to the games. Do you have something in mind? Oh, what about finding the recordings?

Any how are you going to find the recording? They're out there. I've seen a couple. Don't worry about it. I know, Greg. I'll fucking worry about it, Steve. It is autism on it. I got games.

All right. I'm not going to share with you fucking knuckleheads. Knuckleheads. Do that, Andy. You have to share with your family. You have to share with your family. Mom says so. You're not a family.

I'll make mom's sharing with you. I just own you both. You can't do that. I'll make mom. I just did. I just did. No. So, yeah, I mean, if you want to pick a game next week,

we can we can pick a rando. I'm fine with that. I got one in mind. You do? Yeah. What is it? The first Patriots game I went to. Oh, good.

OK. Hail Mary. It was a hit. Dude, it was a crazy game. Oh, no. So actually, this just came up recently because on Twitter, I did a thing where I had people post their favorite plays. And I replied with the highlight of that play.

The Hail Mary. And yeah. And one of them was the Ben Coates touchdown after the Hail Mary pass interference to beat the Buffalo Bills. Yeah. It's a great game. We can find that game. And I told everybody how salty I was that you got to go and sit at me

because I believe at the time, dad's the reason he took you instead of me was because he had taken me to a Red Sox game that year. And so you got to me. He loved me. And I didn't get to go to a Patriots game till like 2006. You went to a Bruins game first, though. That's true.

97. I went to a Red Sox game first. I have a new worst. OK. It's watching Greg pick his nose with a pair of tweezers right now. What the fuck are you doing, bro? Is that why your hand's covering the street? Yeah.

So you don't have to watch it? Watch that. Noted. At least you got picking your teeth with a knife. Yeah. Give it time. So long and curly ones. They get a little tickly up there, you know?

They do. I fucking hate it. And then you pull it out and it feels like you're pulling out of your fucking brainstem. Brutal. Like your frontal cortex. This is up there. Look at that thing, Steve. That's what I mean.

I pull out ones that are like inches long. Whose eyes is this thing? Brutal. Are you sure you didn't pull it off your pubes? Dude, this thing is massive. OK. It's a little terrifying sometimes. This is when you get like six in one and you're just like, oh my god.

Why did they say something? Very naughty. Yeah, Gregory definitely is. Sometimes a naughty boy. Especially when you're pulling those hairs and ejaculating because of it. All right. I think we are finished. So next week we will have a random game from the sounds of it.

And then after that, we'll meet back here for the Patriots hosting the Colts in the ASEe divisional round. Playoffs. Playoffs. Playoffs. Turn in next week to see how much of a blubbering little bitch, Greggy. Man, you're on the Patriots time to see pot. Yeah.

I'm going to need you to record some new material. All right. Yeah, I'm into the sound by war. All right. I still got mine. I'm slowly building a few. Okay. All right.

But until next week. Playoffs. I like it. Yes. I got a I got a farm machine. Oh, good. This is how we're going out. It's no realistic, Greg.

That was my favorite. Number 11 is my favorite. Oh, good. Oh, good, Greg. I want me to make it rain. This is this is awful. This is so bad. All right.

Until next week or next episode. Dude, when it's Christmas, it's a Christmas song. Boys, enjoy your your Celtics. I've had that for like three years. I'm so happy for you. Enjoy your Celtics. Go Celtics. Celtics in five, baby.

Yeah, let's go. Celtics in five. And until next week, we will see you later. See you later. See you later. Bye.