Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2004 Week 4: Patriots at Bills
Episode Date: July 20, 2021The Patriots travel to Orchard Park NY for revenge for last season's 31-0 loss in this same stadium. Join the Brown brothers for another entertaining AFC East matchup from the days when Drew Bledsoe w...as still doing Drew Bledsoe things, and the Buffalo Bills were still doing Bills things.Show NotesWe said we were donating $1 for every download of the last episode featuring @PatsCap to his Habitat for Humanity page. We had 88 listens, so we decided to round it up and donate an even $100. The new website is live! Check it out at https://patsdynasty.com and let us know what you think.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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This is Christine Brown and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty,
you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying
to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right
ahead. I am not your mother.
Welcome back to the Pages Down to See podcast. This is 2004 week four take two. Is that right?
Yes. We tried to do it last week. We're just going to have a talk with Miguel from Patscap
and then jump in the game and that just did not happen. I can see talks a lot. So speaking
of which, during that episode, we said that we would donate a dollar for every person who
listened to that episode between then and now and we had 88 lessons. So if you listened,
you are helping out the cause. And so we're actually going to just round it up to an even
hundred bucks because we're nice guys. So we'll be donating a hundred bucks to Patscap's Habitat
for Humanity page. So look for that. You write it off on your taxes. I could, couldn't I? Yeah.
Well, I met the listeners. Oh, yeah, they're probably good too, actually. That whole dollar,
just write that off. Yeah. If the IRS comes, come and just send them our way. I'm sure we'll
take care of it for you. We'll get a bunch of lessons from the IRS too. Yeah, absolutely.
If you're from the IRS, we are not tax professionals, so don't listen to us. So there you go.
Cover those bases. Also, big news. The new website launched this week too.
So Patsdynasty.com is the new one. Go check it out. It's just like the old one, except newer
and cooler. Is Patspods.com still work because that's what I tell everybody.
It does. And I'm going to, now that the new one's launched, I'm going to, that will point to
the new website too because there's a podcast thing on that that's fancier.
Which the, give me the elevator pitch for the new website. Nobody actually wanted it,
and he just did it anyways. How dynamic is it? It's very dynamic. It's fully dynamic.
It's fully mobile optimized. And if you want to learn anything about stats and eventually
storylines from the Patriots' Dynasty era, the Bill Belichick and Tom Brady era of this
dynasty, the one that we're doing a podcast on, that's where you'll get your information.
That's where we get a lot of our information in terms of all the cool stats and stuff that we
come up with and all the cool things. Here's a fun fact for you that I found while I was putting
this together. In the Brady Belchick era, Patriots did not have a losing record against any team.
And they actually were undefeated against more teams than they had a 500 record against.
Can you name the team that they went 500 against over the past 20 years?
Denver. Redskins.
No, they were 10-9 against Denver. So you're close.
Redskins.
Not the, definitely not the Redskins. Yes, it was the Panthers.
That's right.
Yeah, Cam Newton, which kind of, when you look at it that way and you look at Belichick's
penchant for bringing in players who have played well against his team,
makes sense that Cam Newton is here as the quarterback of the New England Pages right now.
I think you guys are going to come to Carolina for the game this year.
I would love to do that. I think we should. I think we should do a podcast from
the parking lot of the, uh, of the Panther Stadium.
That's a terrible idea. We're going to burn Bank of America to the ground.
Isn't it your birthday, Greg?
I'm going to piss on the ashes of Bank of America.
So if you've ever wondered what Greg Brown sounds like blackout drunk,
listen to that podcast. Earn it down.
We'll have a, we'll have a listener meetup.
Yeah, we could do that.
Tailgate.
Yeah. I think we should.
Slash birthday party for Greg.
Yeah.
And then just hope mom doesn't come.
Just bring your flammables.
Anything explosives?
Bring it.
Yeah.
We're burning it down.
I haven't been to a sporting event in two years.
We're burning it down.
Oh my goodness.
All right. Well, speaking of, uh, sporting events that we've been to,
this 2004 Pat's Bills game in Orchard Park, New York is a game that, uh, I was at with
Mr. Mike Mellop, a friend of the show.
See, you said this, uh, when we first tried to do this game that it's snowing and you're in a
plane, you thought you were going to die.
Oh, it wasn't snowing.
I was just in a tiny plane that I thought we were going to die because of the, uh,
the turbulence.
Oh, come on.
Man, I'm Andy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The weather was fantastic.
Oh, so the weather is fantastic.
You just were afraid of small planes?
This one, especially.
Yes.
It was terrifying.
And you know what?
I don't care what you say.
And after that, Andy never left New England ever again.
That's right.
Yeah.
Not, not by plane,
except by the plane, not by little plane.
I haven't been on a little plane like that since.
So yeah, if I'm going down to Carolina, it's going to be either a big ass plane or a
fucking drive in there.
Next plane you get on, Greg.
Tell everybody I haven't been on a plane in two years.
We're burning this down.
We're burning down.
Hope you brought your flammables.
No, I will not wear a mask.
Oh, God.
I will die on this hill.
And that's how Greg didn't get to Carolina.
Imagine being like a stewardess these days.
We have a friend of the pod.
Shout out Danielle, who is a stewardess for Southwest.
And she's got some stories.
It's it's a tough time right now to be.
I can't imagine.
Yeah.
Like it already probably sucks dealing with people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And now everyone's just like cooped up, all pissed off, scared.
I mean, you see in every sporting event that's happening now that the
fans just don't know how to behave themselves.
Those poor, poor Bank of America stadium employees.
I'll have no fury like Greg Brown unleashed.
Although we're assuming you're going to get into the stadium, Greg.
This is a valid point.
I'll find a way in, Stevie.
I mean, you have seen the inside of the Gillette Stadium drunk tank.
So if you believe it, you can achieve it.
I'm just excited to say.
Compare the actual Bank of America stadium to the one that I've read about in that book.
Oh, right.
In the Cam Newton erotic fiction that we read.
I was talking to mom.
She said that's the only episode she hasn't listened to.
Thankfully.
So that's good.
Yeah.
Smart plain mom.
Very smart.
All right.
Let's talk some football.
We haven't done that in a while.
This is football or football.
Football.
We're not talking football.
Rest in peace, England.
Yeah.
Rest in peace there.
Apparently it's not coming home yet.
There's still time, baby.
This feels a whole lot like pre 2004 Red Sox fans.
No, it feels like Bill's fans.
Except the Patriot England has won a major tournament.
That's true.
Just not in a very, very, very long time.
It's like the Leafs, the Maple Leafs.
Okay.
They probably have the most brutal record as far as like playoff losses.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm not sure people are in tune with it because it's hockey.
But like you look at some of the ways they've lost in the fan base they have.
And it's just it's mind boggling.
Oh, yeah.
If we had a Cleveland Brown fan on here, they'd be pissed.
But they won back in like the fifties.
Yeah.
They had the whole Jim Brown era and everything.
Right.
And they have like other teams in their city, really, you know.
That's true that have won, yeah.
England doesn't win things.
Come on, England.
Yeah.
And that's been your football.
Now we're a football podcast.
Both New England and Old England.
I didn't think you'd be getting that shit.
Chat about this one.
Speaking of winning, though.
This Patriots team coming into this game had won how many in a row, Steve?
I don't know.
17 guys.
Glad you're prepared.
And so they're going for their record tying 18th win in a row.
Tied with a whole bunch of teams, but only some that actually are legit.
It was the 33, 34 bears and also the 41, 42 bears, which if it's pre Super Bowl era,
it doesn't count if it's pre World War Two era.
I think we should maybe call that one just a different league.
But that's that's not a different game football that we know and love.
Exactly.
And then there was the 72 Miami Dolphins into the 73 season,
which obviously they went underfeated 16 and 0 in 72.
Only team to do so.
And then won a couple of games, but they still only won 18 in a row,
even after going undefeated an entire season.
So that's a little shocking.
And the 89, 99, 49ers, of course, with their whole dynasty then.
97, 98 Denver Broncos.
That was with who was the running back back then?
The Terrell Davis.
That's Terrell Davis.
Yeah, that Ricky Williams based his contract negotiations off of.
And then the 76, 77 Oakland Raiders surprisingly had 17 in a row.
So the patient would pass them and move into a big old tie for first place
if they were able to win this game.
With a big old asterisk, these are regular season wins, right?
No, no, this is this is overall.
How could someone have 17 wins?
Well, the commentators, how can you have 17 in a row?
Just kidding.
There you go.
Yeah.
Well, you could.
No, I think I think there was like because they talked about this,
the commentators, how this wasn't considered a legit record by the NFL.
It wasn't regarded as official by the NFL because it included the playoffs.
And there were teams with longer regular season streaks that had lost in the playoffs.
Like, I think, I think the Colts around this time were doing something similar,
where they were winning a whole bunch of regular season games in a row,
but then losing to the Patriots in the playoffs.
So if you only count those season games, I look this up.
The regular season one is the 0809 Colts.
Right.
The 06 through 08 Patriots are second with 21.
That was undefeated, Pat.
This team is third with 18 and the 1415 Panthers are also third with 18.
That's the year they went 15-1, right?
Yeah.
They must have won the last few games at the end of that year.
Okay.
Wow.
All right.
And the list for combined has changed since this day too.
So the 2010, 2011 Packers had 19 straight,
which they're actually the second on the list.
Yeah.
Because the Patriots are spoiler alert first, right?
With 21.
Correct.
21.
Yeah.
And that's just games in a row, including playoffs.
Yeah.
So the one year that Rodgers won it, the one and only year that Rodgers didn't blow it.
Right.
They still couldn't win as many games in a row as Tom Brady.
So that feels about right.
Second to Tom Brady again.
But I still...
I got a question though.
So I also saw the playoffs record.
Most consecutive wins in the playoffs.
I think that is an official NFL record.
Okay.
So this team obviously has that.
So I'll 1-0-5.
They have 10 straight wins in the playoffs.
Yeah.
I was going to say because Brady won like 10 straight to start his career.
Yeah.
Right.
You got the 70s Steelers on there.
The 90s or the late 80s, 90s 49ers, 90s Cowboys, late 90s Broncos.
Which of those three records do you think is the hardest to break?
I think it's combined games in a row.
Yeah, for sure.
Because it's just like because it's a matchup-based league, being able to win 22 games in a row
all the way through, I think that's just...
Some of that, I think it just comes down to luck at some point.
Like just being able to reel off that many wins.
Especially now with the free agency and how tight everything's gotten
and drafting everything and the fact that draft picks aren't paid as high.
So you have that like if a bad team hits on a good draft pick,
they can make a run pretty quickly and they can turn things around.
I think that to me is probably the biggest one.
I disagree.
Okay.
What's your choice now?
I think the playoffs one is the hardest.
You basically have to win three Super Bowls in a row without losing a playoff game.
That's fair.
I look at that the teams on this list are all like
error-defining teams, like the Niners, the Cowboys, the Broncos.
Which you might not have again.
Right, and even then you expect those teams to make the playoffs every year.
So even you gotta basically win it like three years in a row.
Right.
And then when you're in the playoffs, you're playing the best teams in the league.
Yeah, all the way through.
And I think winning the Super Bowl and the NFL is much harder than winning
consecutive regular season games.
So you don't get any layups.
I don't know.
I think the counterpoint is when you're on a huge win streak, the pressure ratchets up
every single week and everyone's coming for you.
You know, like there's so much we're about to see it on the rest of this way.
There's so much going to be so much bullshit about it.
Oh my God.
Like the or even the 07 season where the Patriots go undefeated and then like,
can you finish this off?
Which the answer is obviously no.
Spoiler alert.
But once you win that Super Bowl, right, the pressure ratchets up till you win the Super
Bowl.
And then the next year, it's not really a huge deal until you get close to breaking a record.
Maybe.
I mean, I think, but once you win that Super Bowl, you have that target on your back too now,
right?
Yeah, I guess.
And a lot of teams, you know, you also don't have as much recovery time because you played
a whole bunch of extra weeks.
So teams that make it to the Super Bowl don't often do as well as they did the year before.
And usually if you're winning a Super Bowl, you're kind of like a lot of teams sell out to do so
because they know they're right on the cusp.
And so you have a lot of turnover the next year for the most part,
not necessarily this year, obviously with every single buck in here coming back, but
generally speaking, there's a whole lot of people that like, I want my Super Bowl to
get a payday, you know.
Okay.
So then are you saying that the Colts from 2008 and 2009 are better than the Patriots?
No.
No, I would have to say that, Craig.
Because that doesn't include because that's that's just winning regular season games.
It doesn't matter.
It still allows the way we're talking with the way you're just describing it.
No, I'm talking about wins in a row.
He's the hardest.
I disagree.
I mean, I think you have a fair argument.
Not only do I disagree, but I think both of you are complete idiots.
There it is.
And I might walk out of this podcast right now.
It's fine.
I didn't realize this was a...
Can you insert the door slamming noise in here, Sydney?
How about this?
No, he does it probably more.
Okay, Greg walked out and he's back.
Welcome back, Craig.
Yeah, they just apologized.
Apology accepted.
And he cut that because he cuts everything from the podcast.
That's right.
Yeah.
I do a lot of editing to this to make it listenable.
You should hear all the shit that gets left on the cutting room floor.
Yes.
So, okay.
So this is the unofficial win streak, according to the NFL.
But Patriots coming in at 2-0 against the Bills team that are 0-2.
And we'll just get out in front of it because I think everybody knows at this point,
the Patriots do win this game to move to 18 victories in a row.
And on the NFL Primetime video, this was like the game of the week because, you know,
it was a good game and the Patriots set this record.
The prime cut.
Yeah, that's what they called it.
Right. The prime cut of the week.
And they showed a stat where the Patriots have 18 wins in a row.
Buffalo Bills have 17 wins since the beginning of 2001.
That's not this.
This is the bills are at least decent as points.
This is the 31-0 revenge game.
No, they already had that revenge at the end of the season, remember?
Right.
But this is the next season after the 31-31.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
It's the last time the Patriots here, they get their ass whipped.
31 is it?
Yeah.
But I still think the Bills hadn't.
They've been pretty up and down.
Yeah.
Because in true Bills fashion, they started off hot, got the hopes up of everyone in the
Buffalo area and then faded down the stretch.
That is classic Bills.
Right. Exactly.
As we all know and love.
Kind of similar to listening to Lions fans in there.
I don't know.
Lions don't even get hot to start.
No, but they always have that like they're ready to go at the beginning of the year.
And then, you know.
The Lions early season is their draft.
Yes, exactly.
So big news in this game.
Corey Dillon on the first drive scores his first TD as a Patriots right up the middle.
Great little run.
Looking very solid as a running back, which is nice to see because we haven't seen that
since we started this podcast really.
Yeah, with some flashes from Antoine, but nothing at this level.
But he would fumble later on in the game.
There's a page of driving for a touchdown like inside the five yard line.
He fumbles and the Bills recover.
Almost did it again towards the end of the game, but it was ruled not a fumble.
So but this this game was actually a wild one, even for like Bills, Patriots standards, I thought.
Let's give the final score in a watchability rating.
Oh, yeah, we haven't done that in a while.
It's 31 17 Patriots at the end.
It felt a lot closer than that up until right at the end, which we'll talk about in a bit.
In terms of regular season watchability game,
we're out of six, I would say a good four and a half for me.
One parties.
Yeah, four or four and a half.
It was very entertaining.
A little sloppy, especially the beginning.
Yeah, I am.
A ton of big plays, turnovers.
There's just a lot of exciting plays going on.
Yeah, there was a substitute referees because there was a referee got injured.
I don't remember what he did, but he like, I'm sure I wrote it down somewhere.
I do remember the Bills fans.
Oh, we had to make this more watchable.
Yeah, he had a torn leg muscle and they were like,
they put him on the Bills bench.
We're like icing up his knees if he'd come back and he couldn't.
So they like had the the linesmen come in to be the the head referee and like they had to
switch his hat to the white one and everything.
And they was like, the commentators were all up about it.
Jim Danson, Phil Sims, of course, they were.
And they're in like the hurry up.
So the Bills.
Yeah, so the bill.
Yeah.
And the reps had to stop the no huddle because the head raft comes up limping like early on in the game.
And there was like a ton of penalties, a ton of like close plays that got reviewed.
And this fucking backup referee was completely overwhelmed and doing his best,
but just like struggling.
I'm like, yeah, 21 penalties total.
A lot of penalties.
Yeah.
And like everyone was getting injured.
Patriots bill watchable referees.
Just like nobody was safe in this game.
Tons of penalties.
Tons of reviews.
Tons of injuries.
No, but like five in a fun way though.
Yeah, it was exciting.
I got to admit the the replacement referee season was awesome.
Yeah.
And it was kind of like just a little sprinkle of that into this game.
You know, it was nice.
But there was like, there's all sorts of just like weird shit that happens.
The Patriots forced the the bills to punt at some point.
I have it on here somewhere.
Don't matter.
I can't find it.
Yeah.
But so the the Patriots forced the bills to punt.
They go to punt it and the punter drops the football and picks it up
like almost as we're about to get blocked anyway.
And then just picks up and takes off running gets like 30 yards.
34.
Before getting tackled.
Yeah, this is the highlight of the bill's fans lives in this game right now.
His longest carry.
He fucking scampers.
Yeah.
And he's running like pointing out blockers to like who to block.
Yeah.
And then he immediately gets run down from behind.
It was a nice dude.
If he could have turned that corner, right, he'd still be running.
Yeah.
There was a Buffalo scored a kick return touchdown to like right after the Patriots
nice move.
A little shimmy in the hole.
Yeah, the hole.
Yeah.
He fucking faked him out and then out ran out of military, which you know,
Herschel Walker can't do.
So impressive.
Blood so throwing interceptions as he normally does, but then like fucking connecting deep to
molds on this like beautifully thrown touchdown pass.
There was vintage blood.
So it was.
Yeah.
18 completions like 275 yards.
Mm hmm.
One pick, one touchdown, six sacks.
Oh yeah.
And they were actually talking about the bills are having trouble with sacks because.
He only threw like four or six actual incompletions because if you throw the six sacks in his
incompletions or his attempts, you know.
Yeah.
But no, the week before it was sacked seven times and he's like leading the league in being sacked,
I think, like by a decent margin over.
Oh yeah.
Since 2002, they showed a stat since 2002, this is a hell of a graph.
Most times sacks in 2002 drew blood.
So in first place with 111 sacks in just over two seasons.
David Carr in second with 101 feels right.
And then Dante Colpepper 93, Aaron Brooks, 77 and Donovan McNabb of all people with 77.
So you've got some mobile quarterbacks in there and then also drew blood.
So in David Carr, who are just sacked machines.
So good for them.
What else?
There was a we got the punt back.
No, they get a punt.
They stop us on third down.
Then they throw a dumb pick.
Then we hit a big bomb to David Patton and then there's that Corey Dillon fumble all in fourth
place.
Right.
Yeah.
Like this is just back and forth the entire time.
There was one page ended up in a first in 35 due to like penalties and stuff.
Convert it and end up scoring a touchdown, I think, which is ridiculous.
Then there was a bunch of what I'm going to call bills be in bills.
Oh, yeah.
You ready for this?
I'm going to read these off.
First play of the game.
Late hit London Fletcher.
Yes.
They get the pages into a first in 35.
Yes.
44 yard completion of David Gibbons.
Exactly.
They get an interception in the end zone.
And there's a flag.
And I'm like, that's got to be on the bills.
No, it's on the Patriots challenge overturns the interception.
They get a two minute drive.
Just do a million penalties.
Then they get the ball back to start the second half.
And I have only the bills can turn a first down from the 35 into a third and 21 from their own 40.
It's true.
That's so Bledsoe-esque.
Patriots are attempting a field goal.
Bills off sides give the Patriots a first down.
And the Patriots score a touchdown.
Yeah. Brady's 75th TD.
Yeah.
Oh, you also miss one where on the Patriots third down, like in their own half,
it's a catch by I think David Patton where and then it's like a bang bang play where he fumbles it.
Buffalo recovers a fumble, one of the linebackers returns it like all the way to the five yard line,
gets caught and somebody punches him from behind,
ball goes out the back of the end zone, pages ball again.
And so the Bills challenge whether he was down before the ball came out
and actually the play was ruled incomplete after all that.
Bethel Johnson, was it?
He got jacked up in that play.
I think he's hurt.
Yeah. I don't think he came back from that.
Yeah.
And they dropped Watson was on IR, which I didn't know.
Yeah. And Deon Branch was also out with the injury.
So it was not a lot of offensive weapons.
There was no, it didn't seem to be any Troy Brown really,
either because they had Tyrone Poole returning punts.
Yeah.
So yeah, you could get that feeling as a fan when shit's just not going your way in games.
Yeah.
Yes.
And you're like, we're not wearing this game.
Right.
If the Patriots weren't playing the Bills, we would have lost this game.
Yeah.
Because I felt that a lot of times against the Bills too.
There was one, I think Danny Amandola's first season and he was hurt the whole game.
And like Brady was the only person who was going through the entire game
and they somehow like managed to claw the way back and win that one.
Yeah.
There's definitely been a lot of those.
I don't get as much for the Patriots,
probably because they know how to execute,
but you do get it.
Like I've seen it with, you know, the Celtics or the Bruins where you're just like,
or the Bruins losing against the Islanders is a great example of like every single mistake
they just get punished for.
Yep.
And then like every bounce is not going your way.
And you're like, I've seen this play before and I know how this thing ends.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
You just know that no matter what happens.
That's brutal to watch.
Yeah.
It's brutal to play into because even when you're playing in those games,
it's like the bounces aren't going your ways.
You start forcing it more and then you get like penalties and it's like you just,
there is something to that like, all right, one play at a time.
I know it's a cliche, but it definitely has an impact.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
We'll save the best bills being bills for the end.
You want to talk about the commentators, Andy?
I know you've got that on your mind.
I didn't really have a lot of notes on the commentators themselves.
I've learned that Jim Nantz and Phil Sims, I can just tune them out.
I think that's become a defense mechanism for me because they've done so many
Patriots games, especially Phil Sims that I just like.
It's like the teacher in Charlie Brown.
In the background.
See, despite there was a lot of penetration talk, which is what it is.
I thought they had some good nuggets in there.
They were talking about the 49ers dynasty being able to get the most out of veterans,
coming to the team and trying to win a ring, a little foreshadowing there.
Right.
Yeah.
And then I forget which one said it, but they were talking about Michael,
Mike Brabes, and they said, he's a classroom coach.
Yeah, they did.
Yeah.
Real foreshadowing.
Yeah, that's come up a few times in the past where they're like, oh,
Mike Frable, he's like a coach on the field and all this stuff.
He might want to get into coaching once he's finished playing football.
Speaking of veterans, what are you guys just general thoughts on Corey Dillon
on and off the field?
I don't know much about him off the field.
I know that when he came to the Patriots, he was known to have a lot of baggage.
And there was talk about like, we tried to look it up.
I couldn't find them.
They'll talk about him like his offensive line saying they wouldn't block for him
for some reason, like towards the end of his tenure in Cincinnati.
He seems just like a get shit done kind of guy on the field, though.
And he is just, he moves much more fluidly than I think he should as a big man,
similar to like a Rob Gronkowski.
Like he's just too big to move as fast and to change direction as quickly as he does.
I think Greg doesn't give a shit what we think.
And he's just asking that question because he has his own answer.
He's going to give.
No, no, no.
Well, I remember like my perception being like he's,
I think you'd be like, oh, Corey Dillon arrested for this and that.
It's like, I was like, remember thinking of him like, oh, he's just a misunderstood
like Randy Moss type where nothing that bad.
He's just like wants to win.
So I looked up like controversy for Corey Dillon and dude, it's some dark shit in there.
Really?
Yeah.
So was he perhaps a sometimes a naughty boy?
Y'all and Naughty's an understatement.
Oh, all right.
Let's hear it.
Yeah.
I didn't realize this saw this coming from a fucking mile away.
He did call this.
I mean, he was convicted twice for assaulting women.
Apparently hit his wife with his car when the cops showed up.
She had like blood in her mouth.
That was 2000 too.
So that was before the fast trade for him.
Yeah, yeah.
2010 he was arrested for assaulting his wife in an argument at their South Carolina home.
Uh, DUI, whatever, drug stuff, whatever.
I can't believe you're skipping over those, Greg.
Well, beating your wife with your car seems like a bit of a step.
But what if he was drunk when he did it, though?
Does that change things?
Is that just a DUI or is that?
Or did he need to?
I don't know.
It could be PTSD too.
I mean, PTSD.
Open your brain.
Yeah.
Jesus.
CTI.
CTE.
CTE.
CTE.
There you go.
PTSD from CTE.
Do you know what CTE stands for, Steve?
Nope.
Andy.
Contression traumatic.
I did, but there's one like super long word in there.
Yeah.
And I couldn't tell you what that means.
Let's put our, let's put our guesses on record here.
I think it's chronic, traumatic.
Encephalitis?
Encephalophopathy.
I'm going to give it to you.
I'm not even going to give it to you.
Nailed it, dude.
Nailed it.
You're right.
N-Encephalophophis.
Encephalophagous.
Encephalophagous?
Chronic traumatic excuse.
Oh boy.
But didn't you have that perception too of like the Randy Moss?
Yeah, I felt they were kind of like similarly misunderstood people.
Yeah.
I didn't remember like serious offenses off the field.
No.
I think a lot of that came, what you said, 2010.
That's four years after you're retired.
No, but also 2000 though, right?
Which is still earlier.
That's like pre-media hype, social media.
If that happened nowadays, it's on a 24-hour news cycle.
Well, I'm just looking at Richard Sherman right now going through it.
Yep.
So yeah.
I think it's probably similar.
Yeah.
Situation.
Yeah, it kind of has that feeling to it, doesn't it?
But I'm not going to comment on things that aren't out there yet.
So I'll wait and see what happens.
Dude, that's our job, our journalists.
Are we?
Is that what we're calling ourselves now?
We're analysts, analysts.
We analyze.
Do you realize this was a tryout for a WE?
Yeah, we told Miguel we're journalists.
He laughed at us with his fucking face.
Yeah, he did.
We told Jeff how the same thing and he laughed at us too.
I mean, he was polite about it, but yeah.
Yeah, I get it.
It was a nervous laugh, though, because he knew we were coming for that hit.
Yeah, that's right, yeah.
As soon as we started asking about how to get a press passes to Belichick's conferences,
he got a little worried.
He's going to see those $100 we donated and be like, oh, shit.
Yeah, coming for you, Jeff.
Ballas, big ballas spending all this money from the pay, the fat stacks of Page's dynasty that we have in our bank account,
which for some reason looks very similar to my personal bank account strangely.
But we'll have to figure it out.
Daddy fat stacks.
Daddy fat stacks.
B-I-G-B-O-I.
Give me them duckets.
Speaking of bodies, though, there was definitely a moment in this game where the stadium was playing
the aforementioned song by Drowning Pool.
Really?
Yeah.
So there was definitely some Drowning Pool in the background.
It's such a good song.
So that's confirmed not disturbed.
Let the body sit the floor.
That is Drowning Pool.
Okay, all right.
Speaking of one hit wonders.
Yeah.
I used to listen to that to go to sleep.
Yeah, me too.
Really? I thought I was the only one.
Oh, no. Well, it was that until Slipknot came out, I think.
And then it was, which everyone came out for, I don't remember, but I used to listen to Slipknot album to fall asleep.
I used to listen to that song and being like, what am I doing?
I was supposed to help me sleep.
There used to be a CD we had kicking around the house where it was like a mix of rock songs.
It had like Slipknot and a bunch of stuff on there.
Oh, yeah.
I used to listen to the Rob Zombie one before bed because it used to give me nightmares.
I just think that about Slipknot when I first started listening to it.
This is a little much for me.
And then next year, he's wearing spiky backpacks and weird snowboarding hats in high school.
Yeah. And starting a metal band called Liquid Fetus.
So, you know, life comes at you fast, boys.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So what else is happening in this game?
Let's get to the biggest bills being.
Is there anything else you want to get to until like, because when we mentioned this play, like people are going to be like, oh, that's right.
I remember this game now.
I didn't remember this.
Oh, really? This is what I remember this game for.
I laughed out loud when I saw it.
Yeah. All right. So let's let's go over this play.
So we got to really set the whole table here.
So the score is 2117 Patriots, fourth quarter.
Patriots scored the go ahead.
They're down seven, right?
Yeah. Yeah. 2417.
I know math is hard. No, I said 17.
So the Patriots on the play you mentioned where they were went to kick a field goal and the bills were off sides.
And the Patriots scored a touchdown.
So that was at the beginning of the fourth quarter.
Patriots go ahead by touchdown.
And then Buffalo and three and out and punted Patriots three and out again and punted and then Buffalo drove inside New England 20.
And they have third and two right around the 20 yard line.
And the handoff Travis Henry and he has for that they call time out.
They won't think about it. No, I'm not talking about the third down before this.
So third down, Travis Henry has a gaping hole.
They run to the right side, gaping hole, trips over nothing and falls over.
So now it's fourth and one.
Go to pick up the first step.
Probably may have actually been a line score touchdown untouched falls over in the hole.
He doesn't pick up the first 10 yard line at least.
He might be still running to this day.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I'm from those chous of four payments.
Right.
Yeah, he is going to run from somebody.
So fourth, fourth and short bills call a timeout.
Talk it over.
Silly.
Perfect Patriot beater.
We can convert this.
We're going to beat the Patriots just like we did last year.
And so they get up to the line.
Blood.
So drops back to hand it off.
There's no running back there.
Turns around the other way.
Teddy Bruce is there hits him so hard and also knocks the ball out of blood.
So his hands straight to the ground.
Richard Seymour picks it up and returns it almost 80 yards for the game ceiling
touchdown with Rodney Harrison escorting the entire way.
Yeah, just it's one of those plays that you just like sometimes will happen.
You like, oh, that's it's a broken play, you know, turn the wrong way and run it back
on the wrong way and like the guy nobody decided to block Teddy.
Yeah, but off of a timeout.
Right in the middle. Yeah.
Everybody, everybody, every single person, if you, I watched the replay of this play
over and over again, and it's, I couldn't tell what the play was supposed to be
because half the offensive line pulled one way.
The other half blocked like half of it, like a couple of guys pulled to the right.
The rest of the offensive line blocked to the left.
The running back went to the right and still didn't block Teddy Bruce.
He came in untouched.
ESPN said it was a naked bootleg.
Well, they actually showed afterwards.
They showed, uh, Bledsoe on the ground, like look around and you could like,
you'd see him out the words.
He went the wrong way.
So it was definitely a broken play.
There was no naked bootleg to this whatsoever.
It's just the, this is classic feels you called a timeout.
Yeah.
To get on the same page and this is how you do it.
If this happens in the first quarter, you're like, ah, you know, it's fine.
No, but with the game on the line time execution,
that's always been the mills bugaboo.
Yep.
See, so bad.
Wide comma, right.
Norward comma, Scott.
Yeah.
It's just, it was, I don't know, just.
What do you guys want to do?
Okay.
I got it.
I'm lucky looking for his first W.
He goes, all right.
So you go the wrong way running back half the line blocks one way half blocks
the other way.
Let's open up Teddy.
So when Drew turns around, he's right there at his goddamn face and he's
going to fumble it to Richard Seymour.
All right.
Break.
So good.
See Sheldon, whatever his name was that took that punt that kickoff out of the
end zone.
Leo is the Kelvin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just such a bill's way to lose.
I'm telling you, if anybody has any bills fans in their fantasy football league,
make them listen to every single bills episode because them reliving this is
just.
You know what?
That might actually be a good, like, come in last place in fantasy football.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Like punishment is to have non-patrious fans listen to this, listen to the
games.
Dude, we should skip every game that the bills win.
Ooh.
You know.
We're only going to miss like a couple.
Do you know how many that is?
Actually, I've already done one.
It's three with Brady.
Overall, the bills have won five games out of 40.
Man.
In fact, if you sort the, you can do this on the new Patriots.nc website,
pass.nc.com.
But if you sort the Patriots records versus opponents by win percentage,
you have the Falcons and Cowboys, Patriots undefeated.
So 100% win percentage.
They're eight and one against the Jaguars, which is 889.
They're six and one against the Rams and Raiders, which is an 857,
but between the Jaguars and the Rams.
So basically what would account to like a seven and one record is the
Patriots record against the bills, which is 35 and five feels.
So they have a seven and one record against the bills five times.
And this is just Tom Brady or what are we talking about?
No, this is, this is just overall.
Tom Brady, I think is a, I'll have that too.
Give me one second.
And one of those Tom Brady losses against the bills is a week 17 game
where he plays the first half in six.
Brady's 32 and three, the 914 win percentage.
Does that count that one really play half?
One is the 31 nothing game and one is that Wes Welker getting 200 yards
and still losing game.
Yep.
Yep.
Those are the three right out.
You just know him off top of your head, don't you?
Yeah.
And then the other two, um, one, uh, when Brady had to sit out his,
oh yeah, one against Mac Astley and one when Brady had to sit out the four games
and they, they didn't actually have a quarterback to start.
Jacobi Bressette.
Yeah.
An injured Jacobi to Bressette and they still almost won.
They lost like 16 nothing.
They should have won that game though.
Yeah.
I was at a bill.
They had a long touchdown call back at the beginning.
And the bill stands are so hype.
And as I was leaving, I said, enjoy your Super Bowl.
Enjoy your Super Bowl.
Enjoy your Super Bowl.
And I could see it in their eyes.
They're like, he's right.
Yeah.
Won the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
That was their Super Bowl.
Yeah.
It really was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I feel like I don't want to skip the bills losses just because
they're so out of the ordinary, you know, and they're, and because of
that, they're so memorable.
I don't really remember that.
Wes Welker getting a ton of yards game.
So I wouldn't.
Yeah.
Well, it must be an electric game.
I only remember it because.
Because it's the Adelichard Park, I believe too.
Yeah.
And it was a Ryan Fitzpatrick as a quarterback.
Yeah.
And he threw, I think he threw four touchdowns on four receptions.
So it's your typical Ryan Fitzpatrick.
It's sort of similar to this game.
This game was back and forth and then the bills just absolutely
choked it.
Yeah.
And that was the critical moment.
You know, fourth down, you're inside the red zone.
You were third and two, and then you got stumbles.
And then you call a timeout and then you have the absolute.
Jokes.
Worst play.
Worst play.
Worst play.
Man.
I didn't feel.
You look at the box score and the Patriots ran away with it.
Right.
No.
Being about two touchdowns.
Like you're just scrolling through that list on that page.
It's like, yeah, of course.
31 17.
Ho hum.
Yep.
But no, this was like super exciting.
Yeah.
And then we came down to the wire except for that last 14 points
swing, basically.
And those could have won it if they hadn't fucked that up and
gone off size on that field goal attempt.
Right.
Right.
It's just those small little things that classic bill.
So we've been doing this and we haven't seen a loss in 18 games.
Do you remember.
What coach stays far here.
It was 371 days ago.
It was the last time the pages lost and it was to Steve Sparrier's
Washington Redskins.
Fucking ridiculous.
Of all the teams too.
But again, that was a game like we're talking about that.
Nothing went right.
You know, they just.
It's a good bookend.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, we got a dog alert.
And how did she get out of her crate?
She opened the door to the room too.
Get her over here.
Get her on the pod.
Oh my God, we got a dog that's smarter than Steve.
Oh, God.
We got some questions for you.
If you had to sniff any player's butt in the league,
who's butt would it be?
And why is he had to hump one leg?
Tom Brady's leg.
Come on.
Is it Tom Brady's left or right leg?
She's on the left side.
I like how you just knew that.
Well, that's what the treats are.
I just gave him a treat on the left side.
So she's always on the other side.
That's fair.
So it's your fault.
Yeah.
Right.
Let's do the best so worse here.
All right.
All right.
Give me your best so worse, Steve.
From my perspective, the best.
There was a couple of milestones for Brady in this game.
Early Brady milestones.
We didn't know how good.
We had 1000 completions.
Okay.
Corey Dylan had a sweep.
Let's pick up to that was going to be one of my best.
Yeah.
He caught Tom Brady's 1000s completion and he blocked the
defensive end and got like lit up doing it.
Yeah.
Gets up, catches the dump off, which was like,
wasn't even a great throw.
Makes a nice snag and then runs for 12 yards in the first
down.
Yep.
So, and then 75 touchdown passes.
Daniel Graham.
And I have a note.
That was an easy catch.
I'm surprised he made it.
My note on Daniel Graham was if he learned how to catch,
he'd have been the original Robert Koski.
And then my worst is poor, poor drew.
You know, I love drew blood.
So and after that hilarious play, they trotted him back out
there after they got the ball back and he was just getting
blitzed.
They're just bringing this Rodney Harrison over and over
every single play.
Yeah.
And he couldn't stop it.
Yeah.
He got stacked twice on the first two plays.
He's just, he's just not going to quit.
He's going to stay in there.
He's going to throw deep balls.
He's going to check it up and he actually moved him down the
field a little bit, but he was just taking a beating and
you're like, dude, it's like a, there's four seconds left.
Like, what are you doing to die?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was rough.
Um, all right, Greg, you any best and worse?
I was going to be my worst.
They, they, they sacked him three times on that last drive.
They did.
Yeah.
So bad.
And he just stood there and took it and you couldn't.
Sack, sack, 17 yard completion.
Incomplete.
Yeah.
Sack.
Six yards, two yards, 10 yards sack.
Complete 13 yards.
Incomplete in the end zone, which should have been a pick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was 10 Euro and three.
Yep.
And, uh,
season over there.
Yeah.
And the people in Buffalo were talking about how Drew just came
playing anymore and they wanted to get rid of them because that's
how Buffalo works.
I mean, I don't blame them.
They, they barely scored any points in the first two games.
This game happens.
Zero and three, you're punting on the year.
You have an old quarter back.
Let's move on.
Yeah.
I'd be saying the same shit.
Yeah.
Cause how long did he last in Buffalo for a trade to Dallas and
whatever a renaissance with Bella check, uh,
two parcels and, uh,
and Terry Glenn too.
And kind of like,
who did the bills end up moving on to?
It's like,
Rob Johnson.
That's the question.
It's JP Lossman.
It is.
Doug Flutie.
JP Lossman.
Wait, is Flutie before this?
Yeah.
I remember we had the whole Flutie, Rob Johnson,
the conundrum.
And they did they have.
It's Lossman.
It is.
They drafted.
Yeah.
Wow.
I think I had a JP Lossman rookie card back in the day.
I don't think I kept it.
It's probably not worth anything.
Yeah.
No kidding.
If I had to venture again.
So it is not worth the paper to print it on.
Oh man.
All right.
My best is Terrence McGee.
Oh, all right.
Two passes to defense.
The seven tackles.
And four returns for buck 76.
44 yard average and a touchdown.
Yeah.
Dude had a really good game.
He did.
Yeah.
He stepped up and that kicker.
Except for that one where he got absolutely burned by
Patton on that touchdown right before the,
the first half.
Yeah.
I don't know if that was so much.
It was like.
So he kick returns it for a touchdown.
Like, yeah.
Let's go.
And then he just absolutely gives it up on the other end.
Oops.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can you let him have nice things?
The touch that will touch on a patent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't have anyone literally within like 20 square yards.
And like, they replayed it and they're like, I say, like, yeah,
that's his fault.
Yeah.
Caught up in the, in the chaff.
All right.
Did you have a worse Craig?
Just the Tom Brady stuff.
Oh, that's true blood.
So yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Um,
my best was, um,
learning that this is kind of like a sad best for the bills,
the best ones.
Um,
Eric molds of the, uh,
he has every single bills, offensive touchdown, uh, this season.
And do anybody want to guess how many that is?
Wait,
so you had every bills, offensive touchdown,
every single bills, offensive touchdown so far this season,
three, three weeks so far.
I thought.
Yeah.
And yes.
Um, he had won this game.
He did.
Yeah.
So I'm going to guess one,
three.
I got it.
They lost both games 13 to 10 to start the year.
I think.
Oh really?
And he had all those touchdowns.
So it was just him carrying the league.
Um,
10,
10 catches for a buck,
26 and a touchdown.
That's a good game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
15 targets.
He had an earlier blood.
So I had an absolute bomb to Lee Evans.
He was throwing some classic blood.
Yeah.
As he does,
it takes him a while in the pocket to get there and say,
if you can get to him,
you're going to get your six sacks and that's not going to work
for them.
Um,
my worst was the bills fans in this game.
Um,
I know it's tough and Buffalo,
but they were dying to get a late hit penalty and they were
being super salty about it.
Uh,
lots of booing and jeering and whatnot.
It's not a great look.
Come on, Andy.
Not a great look.
I'm just saying.
Why?
Why?
I don't know.
I saw criticizing reps for them not calling penalties on
your,
for your team in their favor.
Right.
Yeah.
You're the king of that.
I know.
I saw a cut of a dude with a windup camera and wearing a
leg.
Yeah.
It's just,
I like that.
Tough look.
Um,
and then one hurt raft was a tough look.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That wasn't great.
Um,
and then booing the guy that came in for him who was completely
in over his head.
He was struggling.
That guy gets booed.
Yeah.
Uh,
and then,
um,
speaking on that,
I hate when people call like entire fan bases,
like scumbags or whatever over like a couple hundred people
booing a raft.
It's like,
every single fan base in the entire world does things like
that.
And then people will be like the city of Buffalo.
Very problem.
And it's like,
dude,
you mean humans in general are having a percent out of
people are doing stupid shit.
Yeah.
I hate that shit.
I feel like I've heard you talk shit on Eagles fans and
Ravens fans.
Yeah.
And there's plenty of good Eagles fans.
Yep.
Would you go?
I don't know.
In Baltimore or Philly?
Yeah.
Of course I would.
I've never been to a game in Baltimore Philly.
You wouldn't go to one?
I have no real desire to just from those fan bases
reputations.
Because yes,
there's bad apples in every group,
but there's more in those from in my opinion.
Yeah.
Philly,
I think has more of a reputation.
Baltimore.
I've been to Pittsburgh twice thrice.
Baltimore wouldn't bother me.
I think that's a good rivalry.
I think the Baltimore fans are okay.
Yes.
Get off the bed.
Get down.
Guts.
Down.
Get down.
Pooh.
Pooh right there in the bed.
That's it.
Now,
puke on the floor, guys.
This is such good radio.
Steve,
what's been the hardest part about owning a dog?
Best and worst of owning a dog.
Best and worst of owning a dog.
Best is,
yeah,
she's awesome having a dog.
Best is,
yeah,
she's awesome having a dog.
Best is,
yeah,
she's awesome having a dog.
Best is,
yeah,
she's awesome having a dog.
Best is,
oh,
okay,
pets.
Is that where you're going?
Yeah.
Not just a dog,
not just of the dog you own,
but all the other dogs you meet on the street.
Oh,
that's fair.
You get to pet a lot of dogs.
But I could do,
I could pet other dogs in the street.
It's not the same.
It's not the same.
Yeah.
Why not?
You'd be a weirdo trying to be like,
dog,
dog,
dog,
dog,
dog,
dog,
dog,
dog.
Do you think so?
Do you think that's a thing?
Yeah.
I'd pet a lot more dogs with cuss.
Yeah.
I guess because you stop and you stay there,
right?
Because the dogs have to meet each other.
And yeah,
isn't that kind of awkward though?
Like what do you talk with dog owners?
Oh,
I love it.
I love meeting new people.
But Lawrence out of,
if you don't like meeting new people,
you're not going to like it.
Oh,
yeah,
I would hate that.
Like,
Oh,
���,
Oh,
yeah.
My line is,
Yeah,
she's as cute as she is.
Crazy.
Oh,
yeah,
but they know that backed up by Gus golden buck fucking wild
while she's meeting other dogs.
You know,
Steve,
I'm going to give you a little pro tip here.
Oh,
who doesn't know dogs.
Yeah.
No,
dude,
who just stepped in dog shit this past weekend.
Small talk pro tip.
People know when you got a line that you say all the time.
Obviously,
you know,
it's like when you hear old men say that shit.
Yeah.
So it's not going to hit the same, you know,
you know, shit.
I don't need to hit the same.
These fucking random strangers and meeting on the street.
I'm not trying to fucking be best friends with them,
Greg.
All right,
fair enough.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Let's do that.
Steve,
no,
it's dead up for you.
So
B material.
Yeah,
right.
She's crazy as she likes.
Yeah.
I love it.
Yeah.
Any like work or like humor where you don't know the people
that well,
it's like almost inherently being material.
Yeah.
I just like the fact that Steve thinks you get a material too.
That's the best.
He does.
I got a sometimes sometimes it's unintentional.
I'm laying all my material out on this podcast.
You kidding me?
Really?
When?
Yeah,
everyone when I was down in North Carolina said,
I love the podcast because he shit on Greg all the time.
That's my a material people.
No,
they're just being polite.
Yeah,
they were.
They tell me that about you,
Steve.
Yeah,
I care.
So the best part is,
is petting other people's dogs.
Well,
no,
just petting dogs.
My dog plus other people's dogs,
just the amount of dog petting.
That's fair.
Okay.
Worst.
It's just that you have to play in your,
you know,
everything around the dog here.
I thought it'd be poop related,
but we're going,
we're going back in the office now.
So we're like,
yeah,
that and we're going to Maine.
And we got to figure that out.
You know,
he was always just complicates plans.
You can't just get up and leave anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you feel like you are kind of like a,
I don't know,
proxies the right word,
but like when the dog is acting inappropriately,
that you're getting judged for it.
I don't get a lot of,
because Gus is super easy.
She's super chill.
She just loves everything.
She doesn't really have any behavior problems.
Like jumping on people though.
He told me she does that.
Yeah.
Well,
at least just pull it back.
Biting people in the,
in the face.
She doesn't really do that.
Just me.
I mean,
that's because you put your face on the way.
Yeah.
I'm putting my face right over your mouth.
Also,
I forgot that Steve's like impossible to shame.
This is true.
Yeah.
He just had like the social acuity to.
Emotion.
I feel like I should be ashamed right now,
but I just,
I'm just not,
I just don't care.
So here we go.
He just never learned the shame piece.
No way.
No,
everybody loves my dog.
No,
no,
they might not love my dog.
I just don't care that they don't love my dog.
I agree.
Rough housing dogs is wicked fun.
It's wicked fun.
Yeah.
I do enjoy that.
It's a good rough housing too.
Yeah.
It's a good round and being like, yeah, what's up?
I'm the king here till it bites in the face and then
along with the king game over and somebody cries.
No blood,
no hurt.
That's how we used to play growing up.
Talk to.
Yeah.
The pooping though.
Geez man.
Yeah.
That would not,
that would probably be my worst part of the pooping.
Yeah.
Well,
let's talk to some pooping.
If they could just come up with a breed.
I was actually thinking of this the other day that just,
like,
doesn't poop that just uses every fiber of the food source.
Yeah.
Or even a food source that, you know,
and then I was thinking like, what kind of like,
like the human body is like a miracle, right?
What are we pooping for?
Why aren't we just using it?
Like, I don't know if there's everything poops, Greg.
Haven't you read that book?
I know.
But if you ever thought, why everything poops?
Because not everything that goes in you is, is good.
Like if you're in a fucking entire box of Cheetos,
like some of that stuff is going to come out.
What about peeing then?
Like it's just water.
I should be using the water.
It's not just water.
No, it's good.
I'm rid of all the shit that your liver is filtering out.
Right?
Liver.
It's like a car.
Yeah.
There's waste when you press on the gas.
Shut up, Gus.
We're talking.
I don't know.
I'm just saying if we could get a dog that didn't poop.
Like really beyond to something.
Get on that science.
You know what I mean?
Write this down.
A dog that doesn't poop.
How do you patent something?
Or even a food that makes them not have to poop
but keeps them alive.
Like that's more achievable.
Think of how much more you could get done in a day
if you didn't poop.
That's true.
Yeah, yeah.
I would get a lot.
Well, yeah.
I wouldn't get as far in my games on my phone.
I enjoy pooping though.
Yeah.
It's a nice little sanctuary.
Yeah.
Sleepers also.
It's like, why do we get to sleep before?
We thought that one out.
Thanks.
We thought that one out.
That's the real one.
Yeah.
Well, you just go crazy if you don't sleep.
That's ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
How do we function like this?
The brain got to wash itself.
What if you're pooping because you're sleeping?
When you're sleeping, you're making.
And if you can eliminate sleep, you eliminate poop.
How long do you think you could go without sleeping
and or pooping?
I don't know.
Six hours.
Definitely go a long time.
45 minutes.
I've always wanted to do that,
to push the limits of sleep in and see how weird it gets.
You should talk to Mr. Mello.
No one stopped you, Greg.
Did that with your beer?
That's the thing.
No one stopped in you.
Except for yourself.
Your wife.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
You'd be miserable.
No.
Mike Mello has done that and he talks about after.
I think he did.
Like 30 something hours or 40 something hours.
And he started like hallucinating and shit.
It was not good.
Often like just miss one night of sleep.
Yeah.
No, but this is like trips and shit.
You know, missing like two nights of sleep.
Yeah.
Two nights of sleep.
Probably crazy.
Go to Iraq.
Join ISIS.
Get captured.
And you'll find out.
Yeah.
Jesus.
I bet it's different when you got that adrenaline going, you know.
Yeah, maybe.
That natural adrenaline.
Keep you up longer.
They'll inject you with adrenaline, bro.
Hell yeah, dude.
That'll be fun.
And we get, you can buy adrenaline.
You can buy synthetic adrenaline.
Also, it's called ISIL, Steve.
Okay.
I just know things.
Okay.
Yeah.
We'll just ship it to Peyton Manning's wife's house.
So, yes.
It's how you bring it back to the podcast.
Yeah.
I was, yeah, that was all done.
I was going to say,
speaking of people who didn't give a fuck.
We'll end on the quote from Bill Balachek.
When asked about what he thought about matching the 18 win record.
Anybody have a guess?
Do you think he thought this was important?
No, you don't.
I don't know.
He's kind of like a historian of the game.
So it could go either way.
Quote, we don't care about that.
I care about this season and that this is a divisional game.
Yeah.
Come on.
See that's where that's where Balachek's full of shit, dude.
Yes.
He does care about it.
Because he claims to be like a media.
Yeah.
He claims to be like a historian of the game and respect history and
shit like that.
Well, I think he knows.
And then when you break a record, like, shouldn't you acknowledge that?
He's not breaking.
He's never going to do it.
He's never going to do it in the moment.
He's never going to do it to the media.
He might do that in like meetings or something, but.
Which means he's just feeding you bullshit.
That's fine.
It's all an act.
Yeah.
And like this podcast isn't doing the same exact thing.
Eating people bullshit.
Yes.
These are my most authentic takes.
Yeah.
Which are bullshit.
That's how you know they're authentic is because they're clearly not thought out.
They're just like off.
Well, my emotions are telling me at this moment.
All right.
So what do you have to look forward to next week?
What?
Do we have any quotes from blood?
So after the game?
Yeah.
He ran the wrong way.
I was stirring the game.
But yeah.
Well, you know, close enough.
Here we go.
I got one.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Blood.
So it said blood.
So it seemed at a loss.
I was sitting at my locker for 10 minutes trying to figure it, figure it out.
And in the shower trying to figure it out.
Well, what can I do to make a change?
We're making mistakes at the wrong time and especially against the defending world champs.
You can't make mistakes like that.
I did a lot of my thinking in the shower too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I come up with a lot of these stupid ideas for this podcast in the shower.
So I'm thinking about you boys while I'm naked and wet.
Just so you know.
No.
You're welcome.
Play that naughty boy thing.
Sometimes a naughty boy.
Very naughty.
Yes.
Oh, you're welcome.
And then is this sad trombone?
Yeah.
All those feel appropriate for that.
I need a door closing one.
So I quit this podcast again.
Every episode.
Oh my goodness.
All right.
So next week.
Patients will be playing.
So they have the chance to break the record of the 1972 dolphins
against the 2004 dolphins.
I don't know if the game is home or away because I don't have that in front of me.
But it doesn't really matter because who the fuck cares.
It's the Miami fucking dolphins.
I guess we win.
Yeah.
It is at home against the dolphins.
The Owen for Miami Dolphins.
This is not a good year for the AFC East.
It doesn't seem like except for these new Patriots.
I'm curious to know actually how the 2004 AFC East did.
Not bad.
The bills are actually on the dolphins game.
Andy, let's let's save this for next.
The bills.
The bills.
I'll just tell you this.
The bills this season finished nine and seven.
Nine and seven.
Nine and seven.
So I was like three.
Yeah.
So we turn it around.
So it went nine and four from here on out.
Yeah.
And blood.
So start every game.
They could have been 10 and six if they hadn't gone off size
on a field goal attempt.
Right.
Yeah.
Stumbled in the hole on third and two.
It caused a timeout and then not blocked Mike Crabill.
Wait.
I'm just looking at their Wikipedia from 04.
Buffalo needed a win in the final game of the season against
Steelers to qualify for the playoffs.
However, despite the Steelers playing their third stringers,
Buffalo lost and subsequently missed the playoffs.
Darn it.
Oh, let's go.
So close as always.
So close.
According to football outsiders who has tracked every play in the
NFL since the early 1990s, the 2004 bills are statistically the
best NFL team in their record keeping history to have failed to
qualify for the playoffs.
Wow.
That's a fucking bill stat right there, baby.
That is the ultimate bills being bills.
It really is.
God.
Not bad.
I can't wait to see him again this year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's very true because they'll all get better.
We'll see what happens in Gillette.
They were one in five.
Yeah.
And then they were one in five.
And then they would win every game except for the one against the
Patriots.
Spoiler.
And so week 17.
Oh, it's just the Steelers.
The Steelers who were 15 and 14 and one at that point.
They were on a 60 or a six game win streak going to that game
in week 17.
Where was it?
In Pittsburgh or?
No, in Buffalo.
Oh, that's even worse.
Losing that game at home.
Yeah.
I can't wait.
I can't wait.
Yeah.
It's going to be great.
I'm going to go down that rabbit hole.
This is going to be a great season I can feel.
I think this is the best season that I don't remember.
Yeah.
I feel like I remember all the other season, but this one,
because they just kept winning so much, it just kind of got like,
oh yeah, this is just what happens now.
You're fatigued.
This is our life.
Yeah.
It's probably similar to like a Cleveland Browns team going
four and 12, you know, like, oh yeah, this is just our life now.
We always lose.
And so they all kind of blend together.
And this one's blended over the years into the other seasons.
But all right.
Boys, have anything else for this?
No.
Check out the new website.
Yeah, that's all I got.
We'll see you.
We'll see you next week.
As the pages try to break the record for most wins in a row,
arguably the hardest record in the NFL to break.
So until then, we will see you later.
Later.
Later.
Later.
Later.
Later.
Later.
Later.
Later.
Later.