Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2004 Week 6: Patriots vs Seahawks

Episode Date: September 7, 2021

The Patriots look to extend their unbeaten streak to an absurd 20 games as they welcome the 3-1 Seattle Seahawks to town, but the bigger news this weekend is the Red Sox being down 0-3 to the Yankees in the 2004 ALCS. I wonder how that'll turn out?Join the Brown brothers as they discuss their irrational hatreds of Hasslebecks, fantasy football, and referees. Also Greg learns a lesson on these podcasts being recorded media.This episode is also dedicated to the recently-passed David Patten. Share your favorite Patten moments with us on social media, or on the Dynasty text line: [phone]Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Patriots' Dynasty podcast, the podcast where we are reminiscing back

in the day of the Patriots' Dynasty era in 2001 onwards. I'm your host, Andy Brown, with me this week, both my brothers, Steve. How are you doing, bud? Oh, good. Me and Gus. Having the best time. I'm with Gus. You know, that's right.

You're you're home by yourself this weekend. Single dog daddy. Right, which is why I got a drunken phone call on on Saturday. Yeah, you jealous, Greg? Oh, one second. This is this is also with us. Give me one second, baby brother, Greg Brown, who was currently preoccupied because he has double booked and is 10 minutes late

to his fantasy football draft. So he is attempting double duty. So who'd you pick, Greg? James Robbins. So let me explain this to so they the commissioner of this draft is inept. So they don't know how to do sleepers or a name, name keepers. No. OK. They don't know how to do keepers.

So they they just sent us a list in a text message and say, don't draft these players close your turn. It has to and it's like everyone has to like double check the list. And then if you pick them, they have to like pause the draft and like start. Oh, it's like it's a no. So I just go through and be like, I want this guy up. No, he's already on the keeper list. You know, it's so confusing, brutal.

I mean, yeah, it is a it is a confusing time. I think we are dedicating this episode to the jersey Gregory is wearing and the man behind it. We lost David Patton this week to a motorcycle accident. And so this one goes out to him. Because he is an awesome guy. And I recommend listening to the Pats from the past episode that was literally came out like a couple of weeks ago.

And it was with him. And it was he was just like the happiest dude to the point where it made me send him an email being like, thanks for doing that, because it made me smile. So tough break. But we get to relive them because we are back in 2004. This is week six against the. Who is it, Steve Brown?

Seahawks, Seattle Seahawks, who. Coming into this game page is obviously Andy. What's up? Just go on the website. Look at his highlight. David Patton has the sickest highlight in this game. It's actually the only gift you rift from this game. So far, yes, the first go around when you only did one per game. Just get one on there.

Yeah. Catches a little bubble screen inside the five. Holds it like a loaf of bread. Stick a stiff arm and just dances right by just. Yeah, Waltz is into the end. Yeah, Swaggy Pea. Yeah, definitely the highlight. Anybody have a favorite David Patton moment? It's got to be the three touchdown indie game.

That's a lot. I was going to say the sneaky, the the miracle in champagne. Oh, that might be one of the best catches that we've seen. That is I was trying to rack my brain. I think of like a pure catch in an important moment that was better than that catch. And yeah, I think came to mind. I mean, the obvious one is the one in the Super Bowl.

Robert Pellets and talked about this, how they just put that new rubber pellet field in. Right, right, right. You can see it in the orange end zone because they're playing the Illinois. Yeah, that's right. And you watch it live and you're like, no way. There's no way you got two feet. But then you're not even close.

And it's just like one of those ones with a second foot is just like right on the line. Perfect. Yeah, dotted the eye, I believe they say. Yes. Yeah, no, that was fantastic. That's a great one. And the commentator column, that is awesome, too. He goes one because he's counting the feet. He goes one, two, six.

That was 2002 week 10. So a rough season overall, but not in that game. That was a fantastic comeback. It was a sweet game. So yeah, so you can find that on the website if you want to reminisce. I think the obvious one is his catch in Super Bowl 36, the only offensive touchdown the Pat scored, which looked exactly like the one the week before against the Steelers.

Remember the bloodsill through them. So they they pointed out, somebody pointed out online this week that David Patton caught Drew Bledsoe's last playoff touchdown and Tom Brady's first. Oh, pretty good. Right. I love that. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, also sneaky good game was the snowball.

Yeah, remember, he caught literally everything and like every catch was from his knees because he kept falling over. As we said on that episode, though, some of us could not have been maybe not been catches just because they hit the snow plow bank in front of him. And oh, yeah, no idea. Never knew, you know, but you're still scooping him up. He was scooping. That's a good question. Is that considered the ground? I don't know.

Because I mean, rain isn't right. Right. But but I think like if it's an incomplete pass over the snow bank, can you scoop it up as a fucking live ball? Exactly. That's what I was going to ask. I know. No, I don't think so. Yeah. So I think those are probably the most memorable plays. There might be more coming. We're not sure. How long is he like he's an unbelievable player, too,

because he was undrafted. Yeah. Yeah. It was a bit of a journeyman, too, before he landed on the Patriots. He played with CFL or something. Rina. Yeah, Rina football. Yeah. And he was on the Bears for a while. Wasn't it Bears? No, he he he was undrafted in 96. He went to the Albany Firebirds Arena League

and then he played for the Giants for two years. Giants, that's who it was. The Browns for one year. And then he signed with the past and won three Super Bulls in four years. Yeah, he signed with him in 01. And yeah, I was actually looking into this to see, like, because I think that's one position where you get way.

It's way less frequent that you get great players undrafted because I think wide receivers like a very physical position. So it's like the measurables really matter. True. So yeah. So I looked it up and like, what are the best undrafted receivers ever? Oh, we talked about one. Who was it for the Broncos? Rod Smith. That's who it was.

He's number one. Yeah, I wasn't Wayne Corbett also. Wayne Corbett was number three. Wes Welker was number two. Victor Cruz of UMass. Oh, yeah, yeah, yep, yep. And Miles Austin was number five. So I mean, Miles Austin, his stats are pretty comparable

to David Patton for a career. A.B. on that list. He was not on this list. So maybe it's an older article. I don't know. Because he's undrafted. And he had some big seasons in his book. Yeah, I would imagine he'd be like top of that list.

Yeah. All right. At this point, my picks coming up. You guys want to help me with this next one? Yeah, give it to me. You got it, Greg. OK. Who's on your PR? This is P.P. I don't know.

I'm in four weeks. I have no idea what any of them are. Half point is like the standard. We'll call it half. Yeah, we'll call it half. I have Devonte Adams as my first rounder. James Robinson is my second because, you know, the injury to what's his face.

OK. So let's see. I can get. Nope, that guy's I got to go check. You're going to check your life. Evans. Oh, my Kevin's just got picked. Alan Robinson. George Kittle. I like George Kittle.

I like George Kittle. Third round. Pick those two early. Keenan Allen. This would be Adam Thielen. Robert Woods, Miles Sanders, Chris Carson. Tyler Lockett. So you're definitely a wide receiver here.

Is that the deal? I mean, George Kittle is like a wide receiver. You probably know what I'm saying. I'm taking Kittle, Steve. No, Kittle. All right. Yeah, I would have taken that. Who? Alan Robinson. Yeah, I like Alan Robinson. He is pretty good. Yeah.

Yeah, you put a little trust in field, so I would be good. And Robinson is by far the best receiver on that team. Simon Clarke. Yeah, I know. I know. Also, Steve thinks Tannehill's overrated. Oh, yeah, I actually drafted Tannehill and I dropped him and picked up Mac Jones. My job. I hope that's all right.

Andy Robbins. That would be true. Kittle, it's a league where you only get three transactions all year. So I use one of my three transactions. That is stupid. Fuck it. Yeah, that's a dumb league and a dumb move. Yeah, that was a dumbest thing of running dumb leagues, buddy. That's true.

Can we talk about that? Yeah, I know. Fantasy episode, I guess so. The only thing I really remember from playing in your fantasy league game was the Cardinals kick return or being the top point scoring player in the league. All right, that was a real good mistake, though. Yeah, I play Ryan's Ryan's story we've had on the podcast made that similar

mistake where there was too many points for kick return yards. Yeah. You know, he's giving out kick return yard points. Yes, that was the mistake. It just did a standard scoring. Hey, it happens. How is the best of us? And the Cardinals suck at the time.

So they were getting the ball to them because their defense is just. Exactly, yeah. And like this dude was just he was like decent, I guess. But yeah, he's so many opportunities. It was ridiculous. And I remember Mike Malone's team was just all returners. Yeah, which is exactly what I did. Ryan's story is because I figured out before the draft.

So I drafted them all and was getting heckled mercilessly and then went undefeated in the regular season. Cool, cool league, Andy. Yeah. Hey, after that, it was great. After that was fantastic. draft strategy. I don't know. I'm going to take the kick returners on the worst teams.

I'm really getting in the depth chart. Who's returning the kicks for them? Yeah, it made you learn about football. Steve, you're welcome. But returner, Bench. Berrios, so who Braxton Berrios sees from the Pats? Was he around from around here? Nice from my I think it's from North Carolina, actually.

Awesome. When you say from around here, around. Yeah, yeah, I think some my work with like went to high school with them. Oh, said he was a bitch. I was going to say, yeah, speaking of speaking of which we have a new drop, Greg. I was setting it up before you jumped on and Steve, I had a couple and Steve wanted me to go with this one. Turn in next week to see how much of a blubbering little bitch. Greg, you on the page, it's dying to see part.

Yeah. What the hell? I don't know. But those are your words. It's things recorded. You keep forgetting this. Yeah, everything is recorded. I don't remember that. Yeah, but no one listens to it.

Steve, that's the thing. It's like when a tree falls in the forest. At least we get to listen to it. Those words are never said. No, here's the and yet we have them. Now, speaking of football, can we do it? Well, can we do like a little round table of our biggest pet peeves about fantasy? OK, all right.

You clearly have something on the mind. Go on. I think everybody has like you enjoy fantasy, but there's a piece of mine is that I can't I couldn't enjoy watching football the same. Mm, that's a good one, because I had to worry about like who I had and like who the other who I was playing against had. Yeah, see, the opposite. I watch way more football. I've watched it anyway, though.

I went from going from one Patriots game a week to like let me park my ass in front of Red Zone every Sunday. And then also watch the Patriots. Now we're like tripling my time commitment. That's true. Yeah. And I honestly don't give a fuck about anybody. The Patriots. Right. No, me neither. So I've just stopped playing fantasy.

You know, I haven't stopped playing fantasy. I've just I it's now my new investment strategy, too. I just I draft and then I forget that I'm in the league. And I don't check it for six weeks. Oh, you're you're one of my pet peeves, Andy. Yeah, I won. I won my only the only time I've ever won a league was last year. Doing that.

This is why I called me the way I set the team, but I don't do anything else. I it's me and three other owners. So I don't actually have to do anything. Somebody else is going to make that way where I pick up and start that guy. And man, I just you share a team with three guys four ways. It's the best. Yeah, but do you have to like I did that once with someone for my work and he would he come to my desk and be like, you know,

which defense should we pick up? And I just like, I don't give a shit. Just pick three and then he just back. Well, well, you know, the bears or the dolphins. I just said, I don't give a shit. Oh, so no, here's the secret, but I don't here's the secret. And I started doing this to my wife before she caught on. But it took her a few years.

She would ask me. Actually, I used to do it with Mike Melos, where I started originally. But they ask you your opinion and you just pick one at random. And you always pick one at random with no reasoning behind it. So you say, why you say you just shrug at them. Say, I don't know, because you told me to pick one. And eventually they learn to stop asking you because they know you're picking one at random, which is even worse than not picking.

That sounds like a losing proposition long run. Nope, worked out. What if you really do have an opinion, though? Yeah, there you go. Well, then you can give your opinion. But you won't even get asked. Well, it's fine. I don't want to get asked. I really have an opinion.

If I have an opinion, I'll let it be known. You don't have to ask for my opinion. I think you both know that you're going to get it regardless. I don't care about your opinion, Andy. Kelly's Kelly's got a team this year. You want to know what her team name is? Oh, boy. Yes. Smell my punt. Oh, my. Yeah. What is your team name, Greg?

Smell my wife's punt. Well, Kelly's punt. System of a brown. Oh, my god. Make up, make up. You wanted to. The same fantasy football name for a decade. Yeah, you want to Steve Lynn Browns?

That's pretty good. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. You say that is because that's why I did that work team, because the co-owner was Steve. Hmm. Oh, our team name was I really only did it so we could name our team that. Dude, I'm telling you, co-managing is a shit. He's got to get more managers, Greg.

That way you have four people and that guy can go ask somebody else and you don't have to care, you know? It's not. Yeah. We have a whole we have our name. We have a it's called Burson Brown and Associates. We have a logo. Oh, God, we like proposed trades like we're a law firm. We have a letterhead and fucking draft it up, send it over to them, you know?

All right. That's pretty good. Yeah. The only team I co-manage with was with Ryan. And that's because we're both running the league and it was garbage. Oh, you run a garbage league, Andy. Shocker. Oh, no, the team. I run a garbage team. I run a fantastic in the league. Yeah. Yeah. The team finished bottom. Let's get into the Seahawks game.

Oh, my pet peeve. What's your pet peeve? The group chats. Oh, God, I've never actually had one that had an actual group chat. Oh, the group chats are brutal, dude. That's why I stopped running a fantasy football league is because nobody would participate except for me. And I put a shit on a bathroom and running a league.

When I do my shit talking as as the law firm as Burson Brown Associates, we do a very, you know, formal, you know, like that group chat. More memo. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. All by email. I might steal that. That idea. Yeah, I have a I have a work email signature that I just dropped through it. And it's a fucking Burson Brown Associates email signature.

Love that. It's safe. I'm impressed. Scott did the logo and paint. It has it's ridiculous. It has a McGirt, the golfer is fucking sweaty. I space in it has some tigers. And then in the bottom corner, it says ampersand ass. No, no, no, no, no.

Andy, can you make me one if I make one of my team names and then like a law firm? Yes, of course. You just let me know what you need. Yeah. Dirt. That's what we do. Steve. Yeah. All right.

And speaking of gas, you're a girlfriend against Dave. No, Gus is eating fucking dirt. Well, the dog's going to dog, dude. Yeah, I know. I know it's what we have a plant in the floor. It's our fault. Yep. You you you walked right into that one, Steve. I can dirt my shirt over there.

Speaking of dirt munchers, Seattle Seahawks 2004. Mike Holmgren, definite dirt muncher. That mustache. He's a walrus. He does. Yeah, definitely. Very well. Yes. Absolutely. What are whales eat? What are whales eat? The small plankton plankton.

He's a plankton eater, for sure. Mike Holmgren. He just opens his gullet and just lets you flow into it. He's like, all right. What are they? They're not gills. They're something like that. You just make him pass the bay.

Yeah, the bay lean. That's what it is. That's what he's got on his face. Bay. So out of the three of us, which one of which one of us do you think is married to a preschool teacher that knows all the names to the parts of a fucking whale? Oh, boy.

All right. Yes. So Mike Holmgren and his bay lean. Seattle Seahawks never. Mike Holmgren never beat the Patriots. Really? It's not a surprise because I felt like this team was ill prepared for this game. Like they came out, I think even.

Holmgren said like at halftime is like, oh, we came out jumpy in the first half, which is the reason they were down 20 to nine or 20 to six. He goes longer in Seattle or the Packers? Precise of the Packers. Yeah, he was there for a while. He would have been winning if they had some talented teams. I mean, Sean, I was in sneaky.

Great. They made a Super Bowl. When he was there with Farvon on. They made a Super Bowl Seahawks. Yeah, they lost to they lost to Big Ben. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was oh, five. Right, right after the pitch.

Yeah, 13 and three. Yeah, it was. Because Rockless Burger loses this year as a rookie. All right. So next year they make the. But yeah, he won the Super Bowl in Green Bay in 96 against the Patriots. Right. And then made the Super Bowl the next year, too.

Is that the year they lost to Brett Favre? Oh, no, I prefer John Elway and the Broncos. All right, I'm on the clock. Sorry to interrupt. I'm on the clock. We got options. My options are Odell Beckham, Junior or Cooper Cup. ODB.

Yeah, I'm on ODB. Yeah, Cooper Cup could be fucking good, though. Yeah, I don't think I think Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield is going to be a better quarter. I just think that I'll trust you guys on this one. I would have taken Cup, but I think I think the Rams are overrated this year, especially offensively. They just if they get hurt, if they get injuries, they got nothing behind it.

Oh, they got Sony now, though. I know he's a good draft pick. I like so maybe. I don't know. We'll see. More about these. You're good, Greg. I'm good. Thank you. More about these Mike Holmgren Seahawks.

This is the year that they traded for Jerry Rice. And this is the year that Jerry Rice finally sucked. Yeah, 25 catches, three hundred and sixty yards eating on the season. No, yeah, I don't I didn't even see him. But this was like. I thought the this was a game on Fox, too, because it's an NFC team. And I thought the commentators were like.

Pushing real hard for this to be Seattle's opportunity. This is this is their coming out party against the the champs. And I guess they had a heartbreaking loss the week before where they were up twenty four seven at the half against the Rams and they ended up losing thirty three. And I came again, the commentators, so early, because they were terrible. But I have a note in all caps. Did Fox jinx the Yankees and investigation.

So we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Well, let's get into it right now. All right, because the time of this game is pretty important. What day is it? So this game happened on Sunday, October 17th, 2004. And, Gary, can you tell me what may have been happening around that time? On the middle of October in 2004?

Perhaps not in this sport, but in another one. Oh, and also happened to be broadcasting that night on 2004. Correct. Oh, so the game tonight that they mentioned ad nauseam because it's Fox and so nauseam. So Fox in these days was all about any football game being just a really long commercial for whatever baseball games are going to broadcast. But the game they were broadcasting that night, I think seven thirty

was Game Four of the 2004 ALCS. Oh, it's the best one. It's it's coming right off the Red Sox. Remember the Red Sox trying not to get swept ridiculous by the Yankees. So many bullshit ass references to how much the Red Sox suck. Yeah. And how they did. Patriots game. They did. So they well, they had just lost 19 to eight the night before.

Yeah. So. I guess. But yeah, there was a lot of. Here we go. The one quote that I wrote down, see, was I don't know if anything can really ease the pain of what the Yankees are doing to the Boston Red Sox and the ALCS, which you'll see tonight on Fox. But, you know, the pages are one fucking 20 games in a row.

Oh, man. That's awesome. Yeah. Because I do. I mean, like anyway, if that would be happening right now, I would say this is just embarrassing. You know, like, yeah, no, that was perfect part of this, because no one saw that coming. No one is so on top, though, of like, it's a done deal. The Yankees are it was a done deal, Steve.

I think no team has ever come back from three three games. Get that. But man, they fucking laid it on. Yeah, it was on thick. Yeah, it was every minute, the reference again. You're like, OK, we get it. Like, isn't there a football game going on right now? I mean, not in the first half, no. But yeah, there was one person who would disagree with you, Greg.

And I tried to get him on the pod. Well, but it was it was a late. I only realized it late, so I couldn't get a hold of him. But no, your father, Mac Brown. Oh, this I remember this day because we were watching this Seattle Seahawks game and we're shooting the shit about the Red Sox. And he turned to me and says, if you're going to break an 86 year 86 year curse, there's only one way to do it.

And that's to come back from three games down to the Yankees and to win that series and then win the World Series. So Nick Brown, British Babe Ruth, just calling a shot. He literally called it. In the middle of this game that we're we're recapping today. So yeah, I tried to get him on. But I think it's not impressed. I'm not impressed.

People say they should all the time. It's like the dude that goes like, you know, this one's going out of the out of the park when someone gets to that. Yeah. And does it like six times a game? And then finally it happens like, dude, I called that. I called that. Right. But except you know who your father is. And he's not exactly the prognosticator.

It's not like he believed that he wouldn't put money on that. Oh, you'll have to ask him. I'm not going to speak for him. He didn't believe the Red Sox. We're going to win. I don't know. You'll have to. You'll have to bring that up with him. Well, the commentators believe that Roger Clements is the goat.

They were talking seriously about him being the best baseball player of all time. You know, I'm taking. Probably I'm talking about Damian Harris. Well, hang on. Do it. A fucking day in Harris. I'm taking do it. You're going on that early.

It's worth pick. Do it. Fifth. Yeah, I have. I need a second running back. It's my fifth pick. What else is out there? Cheers, Edmonds, Kareem Hunt, Miles Gaskin, where he most of my have a good year. Leonard Fernand.

These are all fucking slubs. Garbage. And I mean, you know, Damian Hunt or Damian Moiser, me, you know, you know, Harris, let's go. You know, I'm high to get parents. All right. Speaking of a good page of running backs. Well, can we go back to the Red Sox one second?

Because this will be a story for Steve is I had Jim class with Jeff Carr throughout this this time period, the series. And we were both huge Red Sox fans at the time. And like every day we'd come in like, man, this sucks. This sucks. And then they'd win. And then you come in the next day and go, oh, maybe a chance. And then the next day at school, you'd see him and be like, dude, do it all. We could do this.

And like just the building of like enthusiasm throughout the week. Oh, yeah. Like before, like social media, you know, like that was something that I miss is like the old school, like everyone gets to school and talks about the game from the night before. Like that was just such a cool thing to experience, like being in high school when they did that was. Well, now you have your fitness football group chat. So you're good, Greg. Yeah, exactly.

Now I can get angry about it when people. How the world has jaded me. Oh, God. You just hate technology. Mm hmm. A Luddite. A Luddite, indeed. Yeah. Oh, by the way, Steve, did you have trouble with your computer today logging on?

Now, I just had to restart this one. Oh, interesting. I thought I was the one that had technical problems. Well, he was late because of it, though. You know, I gave myself a little buffer before the episode started, because I knew you were going to be late anyway. So. Right. Exactly. Says a guy who was late because he was going to be in draft in the parking lot of my Domino's with your phone.

Right. It's Domino's fault, dude. They told me 717 would be ready. It was not ready at 717. How dare they? On Labor Day, no less. On Labor Day, no less. She filed a complaint. That's some poor laboring.

Yeah, man. Guy asked me my name three times, too. I was like, how dare you, Greg? The quarterback of the Seahawks' time, Matt Hasselbeck, which they he's like, Ryan Fitzpatrick, where where do you go to school? Where do you grow up? You know? Oh, yeah. New England, baby.

They blew that storyline. Yeah. You know, they've come at home, but he wasn't getting a hometown reunion. He's that clip of the mini green monster he had in his his yard in his driveway. Oh, my God. Yeah. That thing was sweet. It wasn't. That was a fucking it was a fenced painted green. Come on, dude. That thing was sweet. It wasn't hard. I wasn't nearly as cool as the van we painted.

I mean, that's how you know he's like, legit. You're a hater, Andy. Yeah. What do you hate on that? I mean, now I'm back. Matt Hasselbeck. That's why. Why? I got no reason. I can just say fuck everyone. This is my pocket.

Dude, the dude has a fucking mini monster. And you're over here shitting on him. Yeah, dude. He was such a wild bitch in this game. Dude, he went to Zavarin. What? I don't know. Isn't that like a famous fucking in high school?

Do you want to like see yourself? I don't know. No, it's the high school football. I think that's like a big one in that area. Sure. And he played decently well in this game. He was running around like he's pretending to be Brett Favre in this game.

Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, decently well. What about Tim Hasselbeck? Do you like him, Andy? Yeah. Do you like any of the Hasselbeck bros? No, I'm not a big fan of the Hasselbeck family in general.

What about Grace Elizabeth Hasselbeck? Oh, she's the worst. What about Isaiah Timothy Hasselbeck? Isaiah is cool. Those are Tim's children. All right. Because his brother went to Boston College, too. Right. And then did he play in the NFL?

Maybe it's like I know they were like a football family. Yeah, he played four years for who? Philly, Washington, and Giants, Arizona. Didn't really start there, right? He attempted a hundred seventy seven passes his whole career all in one season. Oh, boy. So OK, so he's that guy for Tim.

He's like you, Steve, like just the least athletic of the brothers. But the coolest. Well, Andy did say he liked him more than there you go. But isn't Andy likes me more than you? It's really what he's saying. Oh, this is that's actually a third. There's a third. There was a lot in Hasselbeck, Nathan.

Oh, yeah, that's definitely Steve. Nathaniel. Sorry. Oh, boy. Wasn't there was it one of the Hasselbecks that started like like an app that was supposed to tell you like what the best time to pee during a movie was? I think I was a Hasselbeck. I think it was Tim.

What? That's time to get back to the game. Yeah, back to the game. Golly, I got a movie theater because can you just pause it? No, I got a movie to run P app. Yeah. Run app. Yeah. Well, how do they decide what's the best time? When there's the least amount of action

and like the least amount of plot stuff happening, which is like the filler stuff. OK. I feel like that's most movies. Just pee whenever you want, buddy. Apparently not. You guys continue to talk. I'm going to find out who did this. Speaking of movies, are you going to see Dune, Steve?

No. Why not? I don't even know what Dune is. I don't really watch movies. Oh, it's like a Star Wars. It's like one of the original sci-fi books. Yeah, I know. They really like stuff. OK. I just read it. What did you think? I loved it.

Yeah, reading. It was a bit it was a bit meandering at times. And they got like I'm more pretentious overall. It was like using. Yeah, there's always a philosophy bullshit in it, which I wasn't. I could have done without. But the world building, as they say, in the sci-fi community was excellent. You know, it was a fucking beast that we haven't even talked about and we're like an hour into this.

But maybe even the best player on the Seahawks, Sean Alexander. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Like I flew out of the radar hardcore. Yeah, he won an MVP. Yeah. And he said an NFL Russian record. Yeah. Wait, no, he didn't. Pretty sure he had the NFL Russian record at some point. It was broken soon after, but for a couple of years, he had the most years.

Oh, before Priest Holmes, maybe, right? Yeah. Isn't him and Priest Holmes back? We already talked about this in this podcast. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, it sounds familiar. As most yards were eighteen hundred eighty. No, maybe nothing. Still, that's a shit was two thousands. Where the the.

And and leading the way for him, the full back. Mac Strong. Oh, yeah. There was some good. There was some good names in this team. Mac Strong, Mac Strong, the full back. Well, is it strong or strong? Strong, like strong, like, yeah, like Jack. I don't know.

I don't know how you get a better name than that for a full back. Yeah. Mac Truck. Yeah. Like literally, what else could he do? Could he do as a job? Mac Strong, a bouncer, maybe. Wasn't there a Heath Evans sighting in this game, too? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On special teams. He fucking laid some dude out and they highlighted twice.

Yeah. Yeah. It was like the wedge guy in the special teams. He's sitting behind Mac Strong and Belchek saw his special teams tape and then said, you know, we'd get this guy on the team. No, other way around. He was on the pages before. Really? Yeah. He was at the beginning, like when we first started doing this,

he was like the weapon that shows you how much attention I play. Yeah, no kidding. Shocking. Well, he's a watching Greg. Hmm. Yeah. What? Oh, man. I was looking at Mac Strong. I asked about his stuff.

I don't think he has any. He's a fucking. He's a business. He suffered a herniated disc in his vertebrae in a game against the Steelers. The injury was said not to be life-threatening if Strong discontinued his playing a football. OK. But did he? Yeah, he retired. OK.

All right. Jesus. That's what I was hoping it was back. He continued playing. Oh, game of Docker, wedgie. And ran back on the field. We got another person that picked incorrectly. Oh, good. Pause the draft. Not the whole draft.

God damn it, Dave. Pay attention, Dave. God damn it, Dave. Yeah. Sorry. He said my bad fam. Speaking of people we hate, Matt Hasselback coming into this game. Had it actually been pretty good that he's good. The the Seahawks started off pretty hot this.

They started off 3 and 0 and then lost a heartbreaker to the Rams. But there I think it was mostly on their defense because in the first three games, they gave up a combined 13 points. And then they had to buy a week. And then the next three games, they averaged almost 30 points per game against. But as part of that, like beginning. Doing well, Matt Hasselback hadn't thrown interception in his last 88 attempts coming in, which I think is pretty good.

Probably a couple of weeks worth there, right? Maybe start off the season without throwing a interception yet. And then immediately through two interceptions in four past attempts in the first quarter. So that went right at the window. The defense was nasty. Typical Matt Hasselback. If you ask me, this defense is typical.

Excellent. This is one of the best defenses. If you're going to draft a quarterback in the sixth round, because that's also when Hasselback got drafted, who do you pick? Hamel Brady, Steve, the first play was a sack. Yeah, what? And he had that. Whose fault was it? Willie, who got fooled on the screenplay, tipped it up to Richard.

Other way around. But yeah, I'm like the first drive of the second drive. Yeah. This defense was sweet. Yeah, this this defense law interception, forced by Rodney Harrison's corner Blair safety blitz. Like, yeah, they're all over the place. But it was just like a lot of especially in the first half

was just like this Seahawks team look like they didn't come to play. Like they're making a whole bunch of mistakes. Like you said, that sack was just like a free rush on the first play. And they had they they were moving the ball in offense for the most part. But they had corn Robinson at this point, who was supposed to be like their weapon. I think you probably would have been if you could catch the ball. Because I mean, even in this game, let's see. You played quite well.

Nine catches for 150 yards. But on 13. Targets. I mean, that's actually decent, but like he was not. Except he came out of Michigan. He's all 13 of those targets hit him directly in between the numbers. And it's not as good as what we're saying, right? No, he doesn't throw a ball.

It's going to be either Matt Hasselbeck sucks or receiver sucks. You've got to take one position. You can't be on both. Oh, Andy's he's even a tangled web here. It's both. Haven't you ever heard of throwing a catch ball, Steve? Hit him in the hands. That means the quarterback sucks, but he dropped it because that means the receiver sucks.

It's both. Just because he can hit a guy in the chest doesn't mean nothing. Look at idiot Andy. He had one decent season. Corrin Robinson, 78 catches for 1240. That's pretty good. Which season was that 2002? Oh, so a couple of years before this.

Yeah. OK. Yeah, he went pretty steadily downhill after that. That feels right. By the way, I made a boo boo. Remember George Kittle? Yeah, my keeper was Darren Waller. I fucked up. I fucked up.

If they had just let me have my keeper to start with, I would have remembered that dummy. God, I hate this league and I hate fantasy. That's why I don't play anymore. Now let's put him in the flex double tight end. I'm on the Patriots. You're running that 12 personnel. Guys, trade them to love it. Trade him for a king's ransom.

Everybody needs a tight end, because there's only three good ones out there. Oh, yeah, see, pick them all up, Greg. Yeah. All right, what else? Um, Tom Brady. Should we talk about Sean Alexander? Yes, that's why I said Tom Brady pause, because I want to talk about Sean Alexander. We always talk about Tom Brady.

Let's talk about the other team. Well, Tom Brady took some lumps in this game. OK, let's talk about the other team. I don't care. Yeah, he got his chin strap knocked off, right? Did he? Well, he split his chin open again from having he had. Um, he got roughed up the week before and had stitches in it

and they popped the stitches in his chin scrambling and getting he got lit up and he fumbled it. Did you see his chin strap come off? They showed it on prime time. All right, his whole helmet popped off. Yeah, it popped off, but then the chin strap broke off the helmet. Holy shit. I went like flying five yards off. I mean, yeah, it was brutal.

It's like the Nate Clemens hit from the Buffalo game. But I think this one was worse like that. But worse, he could sandwich. He gets like the high, low sandwich. Yeah, I'm blindsided by the guy that hit him high. Yeah. Do you think it was a dirty hit? I mean, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, he was just trying to go for the first down instead of sliding.

And he Tom Brady run like a wounded, especially that time of the NFL. Like, of course, he's going to get blasted. Yeah, but that dude, he was a defensive end, came trucking around from the other side and legit launched himself shoulder height. He was like parallel coming in there. Yes. Fuck yeah. That might be the hardest hit I've ever seen Brady take. Well, yes, I think I think you're probably right.

His head is helmet goes flying off. He fumbles the ball. Yeah, that was bad. They recover it. They go three and out because our defense isn't right. Tom Brady gets it back. There was an exception immediately because he still can't see straight, probably. Yeah, I would imagine he's still struggling.

He is all day on that pick. He's just sitting there patting the ball, patting the ball, patting the ball. Yeah, it was a dumb pick. Yeah, throws right at the linebacker. Yeah, it was a kind of a game of two halves in this one where the Patriots like didn't punt in the first half and then didn't score really until right at the end in the second half. But it didn't matter because it built up a 20 to 6 lead.

So yeah, that little sequencer got Seattle back into it. Final was 30 to 20, but. But it was that. Yeah, it was it was actually pretty close until. That they were only down by three by the end of it. Seahawks were it was a yes, 23 20. And they kind of like scraped back in. Yeah. And so.

I feel like because that even the the commentaries were touching on the fact that like, yeah, the Patriots have like they've won 19 in a row coming into this. But their average margin of victory was nine points. So they're not blowing anybody out and they posted a. A little Chevron thing and it was a 19 game win streak. Ten wins by eight points or less. They were they trailed or were tied in the fourth quarter in eight of those games and two of the wins for an overtime.

So it wasn't like some hugely dominated thing. They just figured out how to pull games out in the end, which is exactly what happened here. Like they built up a big lead at halftime and then Seahawks clawed their way back into it. And so the pass is only up by three. And it's they got the ball back with three minutes left. The Patriots did up by three. And they just throw it on first down incomplete. Yep. Run it straight up the middle for two yards on second down.

Timeout Seattle. Yeah. And then what happens third down and seven. Yeah. And Tom Brady rolls out to his left on the next play designed rollout to the left. So the opposite side of like the way he would throw it normally. So it's throwing against his body and only chucked it like 50 yards on a rope to a diving Bethel Johnson for a first down at the 25 yard line, who had not played last week because his attitude wasn't good enough. And he didn't dress right because the Patriots are also without

Deon Branch and Troy Brown in these past few weeks. Yeah. So they're dressing literally the number one wide receiver on this team right now. David Patton. Yeah. He was. It's kind of all they had. And David Patton had a couple of nice catches, but that's like all there was available to Brady. Inside three minutes, his first target has only catch. Yeah. 48 yards.

Yeah. On a third and seven from your own. Yeah. 30. Right. Yeah. Yeah. 30 something just they just bombed it down there. An awesome play. It was a play call. Yeah. It was so good. They got him so hard on the run fake to it. And it's just like Bethel versus some guys are not as fast. Yeah. The deep safety.

You could see the fear in his eyes as soon as he saw what was happening. Then two plays later, Corey Dillon running in for his second touchdown of the game. And that was the play, I believe they said, that put him over 100 yards for the game, too. So he finished with 105 and two touchdowns, not too bad. He had a sweet Bronx spike on the touchdown. Yes, he did. He was super excited. You know, he was also excited. Brady was fucking up in his grill, up in his grill. Yeah. Awesome.

They showed a nice little replay of that bomb to Bethel of Daniel Graham with a little cleanup block, even. Yeah. Daniel Graham, he actually had a couple of good plays here because he bailed them out on another long third down, too. That I think was. Oh, yeah, that was again in the fourth quarter. It was like a 20 yard play to Graham on third and 10, which is ended in the field goal.

So those two catches results in the 10 points of the Patriots won by. How about that? What else? Basically, Greg. Yeah, you should draft Corey Dillon, Greg. I drafted Juju here to Patriots names that I saw. And I was like, who the fuck are them? Which guy? Who the fuck are they?

I can think of one. Well, who you got? Abdullah. Yes. Yeah, I knew he'd be one. Rob Robbie, Robbie here. R A B I H Robbie Abdullah, who is the other one? He has this season, I looked it up. He's 13 carries for 13 yards and one touchdown.

Cool, Abdullah. Yeah, he had a touchdown a couple of weeks ago, I think. Oh, I miss that. Yeah. He's his only catch of the season in this game. Yeah. And it was the other was a Patriots number 10. And, you know, I just have my eyes out for number 10 now, you know.

Right. Right. Right. It's recent news. Casper with a K. Oh, yeah. He was a street free agent that they picked up because the pages were so thin at wide receiver. I think it was last week when they sat Bethel, they literally picked this guy up and started him instead.

And he was like, wasn't on the team on Thursday and was starting on Sunday. And so you could tell he didn't actually know, like, what routes he's supposed to be running because, you know, it's Tom Brady. I thought it was a quarterback. No, I don't think so. I think he's he was a street free agent wide receiver. Wow. That played a little bit the week before. And that's probably it.

Well, I don't think it was. Three kick returns this year for six years. Oh, all right. That's a pretty good average. He has no catches in three targets. Yeah. Yeah. I think all three targets came last week. I don't think you'll see much from again.

Another thing of note in this game, Greg Brown, this one's for you. Ty Law got his 36th interception of his career, which ties him with Raymond Claiborne for first on the Pets All Time. It was it. Was it a nice one? I didn't it wasn't in the highlight pack. It was a diving grab. It was a lot of Rodney on the Blitz. Yeah, the throw was early.

It was one of those ones where, you know, it's Ty Law running the route for the wide receiver, like before the receiver makes the cut. He's already cutting and he dove in front of him. And the receiver didn't come back till he tried to break it up or anything. But it was a nice one. He almost had a second one in this game where he did the exact same thing and ran the route and the receiver stops. But he just like couldn't couldn't bring it in.

That one would have been an awesome pick. Yeah, that would have been a route for the receiver. Better than the receiver ran it. Yeah. Did you catch Ross speaking of Rodney Harrison? They made comments on the two point conversion the Seahawks did to pull it within three where Matt Hasselbach back says that Rodney Harrison is the dirtiest player in the league.

And the reason they brought that up was on the two point conversion, there was a flag. And then I saw the referee do the roughing the passer motion. I'm like, oh, that's got to be Rodney. And then they announced that it was roughing the passer number 37 defense. I'm like, of course, it was Rodney because that's the the exact type of penalty that Rodney Harrison gets. Yes, a roughing the passer on two point conversion. I mean, I'm somewhat deserved.

What do they do there? Do they just replay it? No, it got added to the kickoff. So the Seahawks just kicked out of the back of the end zone. So fucking whatever. Missed it. They probably replayed it. Right. But did you see that?

Did you see that where Corbin Robinson makes the catch finally because he drops a couple early? Yeah, he makes one and do legit catches it and just spins on the ground. Just like just stoke because he finally fucking caught one. Yeah. And Harrison happened to be standing there in the ball spun to his feet. He happens to be standing next to a official and he's just like, what's up? What's up?

You should come on. How is that not taunting? So they called taunting on him. Yeah, they called taunting Corbin Robinson. He finally gets like a 20-yard catch and then gets a negative 15. Yeah, yeah. Well, taunting was a thing back in this day. This is like the one at first.

First. Just barely. Yeah. Wow. I thought it was way more real. Officials to get a fucking taunting call. Yeah. It was not taunting at all. Not even close to this is a perfect. Second rule ever.

Oh, ever. Oh, it's going to be terrible this year, too. Yeah, taunting. That's what we're concerned about. Yeah. Like, get real. These are all grown men. No, not CTE.

We're worried about. Yeah. He hurt my feelings because he celebrated too much. Like, what the fuck are we talking about? Man, I like the targeting rule in college and like the ejection. They love the targeting. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like you can protect people's head.

Yeah. Yeah. Spitting a ball at someone's feet. It's like people taking heads off, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I agree. We never get with like fights aren't an issue in Yennefer, right? Yeah. So they're solving a problem that doesn't exist,

because I would imagine that's why that's there is to stop. Like fights. Maybe that's why it doesn't exist, though. That's why there is no way. This is the thing I agree with you the most flag for God. This is the thing I agree with you the most. I can't agree with you more. All right.

Well, how about this one, Steve? What about it? What about this one? This is a penalty they called. Shut up, Andy. Just shut the fuck up next week to see how much of a blubbering little bitch. Greggy on the page of the dynasty podcast.

You need to cut off the dynasty podcast to make it a better drop, you know? All right. I have some other ideas about that clip, but that clip has that legs. I have things as legs. Yeah. Yeah. This is the rough, the rough start of it.

Yes. Yeah. The rough draft. But they we're doing referees now. So fuck you, Steve. They called. I have no referee notes, Andy. So I got one. This is a big one.

This is all caps, baby. You know, when an offensive player like fall starts and so the defensive player goes and just shoves them to make sure the play is over. I love that. I love that. So Colvin did that and they called him for unnecessary roughness. Oh, he did dump the dude on his ass sort of intentionally. He pushed him and then he kept going

and then just dumped the dude. He didn't. He just pushed him. It was that was a soft call. I don't even Chris college where it's like, I've never seen that before. Yeah. Chris Collins was saying it was deserved, though. Soft call. That's because Chris Collins was a soft though.

Oh, Andy, Andy, Andy, Andy, Andy, Andy, Andy, Andy. What else? All right. Should I should I pick up Sony, Michelle here? Yes. Little, little, little, little round round eight. Hey, go ahead. He you know what he showed this year is be able to catch the ball out of the backfield. The Rams are going to use that a lot.

He's the he's the top top rated running bag left. It's like James Conner, AJ, Dylan, Ken and Drake. These are all fucking bombs. And Sony is going to have a lot of I might pick up Sony here. Get him. I never thought I would say that. I might. So I'm going to stand all like because he's not on the Patriots. Yeah. Don't draft.

Well, you've also already drafted the Patriots running back to. So I always said if Sony could catch the ball, he'd be no. Well, I see the thing there. You knew it was a run. That was his problem. And put him in. They spent the first round pick on him. Like I would have had way more patience for him

if he was like a third or fourth round pick. But to draft a running back in the first round, they need to be a stud. And he just wasn't a stud. It wasn't that first season. He was decent. Exactly what they needed. Decent when the Super Bowl yards you needed. But that he gave them that Super Bowl in the playoffs. But you can find those players on the side of the street.

They still, I don't know. I pay a first round pick for a Super Bowl win with you. Yeah, that's exact. And I think it was a bad drought. You can say he helped the team win and say it wasn't a great value pick for where they picked them, right? Can we say that? Yeah. All right. That's all I was going to say.

Chubb was right. The other the other back in that backfield and why they were guarded as the better of the two. And we went against the grain and pick Sony over Chubb. But that's because they had issues with Chubb's let's pick up, which is a big part of the page's offense. And so for the fact that Sony, Michelle, who wasn't the last time you've seen a rookie running back, starting in the New England Patriots offense.

You haven't. So there's a reason for that. And so they actually picked up the perfect guy for their offense. So it worked out fine. And also they're picking at number 32, which I would argue isn't even that much of a first round pick. He's not even a perfect guy in the offense. What is the best, the best back in the Patriots offense,

which we really haven't ever seen is someone who can catch the ball and run the ball in between tackles. You know, like Sony, when he was like, it's clearly a run. And when James White is in there, it's clearly a pass. Like so they they just they told you what they're going to do, but just by their personnel packages. And I always thought if Sony could catch the ball, he'd be really good. And I feel the same way about Damien Harris.

If Damien Harris can start grabbing some balls at the backfield, it'd be really good. And that's why I'm super duper high on Stevenson, because he did a lot of that in college. Ramon Dre, I'm high on him because I love his name. In Ramon Dre, Steve, I can hear a blunt. He's like, you're blunt that can catch balls out of the backfield. I think he's he's looked way better. Like, have you seen his high like film? Yeah.

Dude, you're fucking kidding me, dude. Very naughty. What happened? Was somebody a naughty boy? Someone picked a player they shouldn't have picked. And then I picked Sony, Michelle, they rolled the draft back. They paused it. And then that person went back and picked Sony, Michelle. Oh, party for that's a party.

This can't be this can't be legal. Yeah. How about you got the keeper thing? While Greg is is writing the wrongs of history. Steve, give me some give me some other stuff. You want to get worse? Yeah, give me. All right. Yeah, give me your best and worse.

It's about time for that. I have I have a worse. OK, and you're going to love this worst, Andy. Is it Matt Hasselbeck related? No, hasn't. Maybe I don't remember. It's tangentially related to Matt. OK.

It's a commentator quote. Several commentator quotes, actually. OK, I'm listening. And it's my wheelhouse. It's like a softish roughing the passer penalty. And they say this is what Collins worth. Oh, this man. And who's the other the other I wrote it down play by play guy.

Oh, Stockton. Oh, Dick Stockton is the worst. He's terrible. And they say you got to keep those quarterbacks in their dresses. Yeah. So they insinuate the quarterbacks, I guess, crossdress for our little bitches or women, basically, women. And therefore, soft.

And they have to call those penalties more aggressively, which, you know, it was a clear roughing the passer penalty in today's age. Oh, it was Brady got ragdolled like three seconds after the play. I remember that. And then Stockton chimes in tight dresses at that. He doubles down with not only he had a gay man dresses, but tight dresses. He wants to see Tom Brady's booty pop.

What the? Dude, that is just that has happened in this day and age. Oh, my God. What do you think mom thinks of that? Very naughty. Yeah, mom, sometimes a naughty boy. Yeah, she's going to write Dick Stockton a fucking angry letter. A strongly worded letter.

Dear, I feel like it got worse, too. It got worse, too, I feel like, because I was going to write it down, but they kept on going. I'm like, hey, you're on it for a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was it was rough. And it was like the point where, like, it was should have ended. And then like the next play was starting because you thought it was going to end.

And then like the next play snapped and he said, oh, tight dresses at that. And you're like, oh, my God. Yeah, we're still on this. It was on it. Yeah, not something you could get away with today without getting being canceled. Oh, right. You want my big plus? Well, my best is Greg is left.

I don't think it was on purpose. Technology issues. You know how he works. Perfect. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Turn in next week to see how much of a blubbering little bitch. Greggy on the Patriots Dynasty podcast. He is so upset from his fantasy draft.

He just fucking. Yeah, exactly. He's a blurry little bitch. Oh, what's your best? Give me your best. Also a commentator. Oh, yeah, you like that? All right, I'm sensing the theme.

Yeah, it's Collinsworth talking about Corey Dillon. And he says he gives us offense to the physical presence that defense has always had. And I was like, because it's right after his last not bad game clenching, you know, touchdown run after that big bombs of looking. Yes, they hit that. All they just they just started feeding cordial. Yeah, they get inside the 12 and they just give it to Corey Dillon.

And he just takes it all the way in and he's so right. Like that, like, you know, watching these games over again and like the defense has just been absolutely beast. And then Corey Dillon comes in and he is he almost like watching prime Corey Dillon back then to get appreciation for how much physical he has. He just like threw people and it's one of those backs that gets stronger. As the game goes on, like it's all those cliches about.

But he's so fast, too. Yeah, but he does. He just like he doesn't really try to avoid anybody. Every once in a while, he'll do a juke and you'll be like, holy shit, where'd that come from? But like I wrote on here like my one note for Corey Dillon was that he's running heavy because that's what it feels like. He just like six guys miss on like a one yard run, too.

Yeah, exactly. But he runs like like he's a fucking one. He gets three yards sort of thing, you know? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, even from the one yard line, he's still picking up those three yards. Yeah, because he does. He runs like he's a fucking cement mixer. It's awesome to think that like it could have been cooler if he'd been there

for a long time. Oh, my God, yeah, yeah. But even this season is worth it. Whatever it really is. Totally worth it because he's been a beast. And I don't know if you caught this in the beginning of the game, but he did all that on a bad foot. He came in the game with a foot and they weren't even sure he was going to play. And I did was run for 100 yards and just like absolutely

turned men into like mountains of puddles. When when push came to shove, they gave it to him and he fucking just pounded in a couple of times. Did what he needed to do. Love it. Yeah. And look strong doing it. All right, my best in this game, Dan Cleco. Fresh, Andy.

Defensive tackle, Dan Cleco lining up in fullback, leading the way for Corey Dillon, both the touching runs and also making a catch out of the backfield on third down to convert the third down. Did you catch that happened? And he could have been like a beast. Yeah, I don't know. Well, you know what happened is he's a he's a nose tackle, right? Yeah. And then they drafted.

Vince, Vince Wilfork, you ever going to start in front of that? No. He's like a pretty athletic and I feel like he never caught on anywhere else either. Yeah. Where did he go? I feel like I remember because I thought he was a local boy, too. You guy or something. He was like a Matt Hasselbeck style. Yeah, he went to England, so you got to like him.

He was born in New Jersey, went to temple. You know, his dad played for the past then. Yeah, it could have been something like that. Yeah, yeah. So he played three years in New England, two years in Indy and then one in Philly. But I mean, he was like athletic for a big boy. Didn't really start any of those games. Well, there's a text from Greg, my internet died.

So while I'm doing my best and worse, would you mind texting him that he's a blubbery little bitch? Well, I'll send that to him. Don't I know it? So yeah, so my best was a Dan Clicco third down conversion reception because that's amazing. Let's see, what is my worst in this game? I think my worst is the politics going on.

I don't know if you saw the the the sign that people had that was. Oh, it was a bed sheet and it said election 2004 and had the check boxes, the Bush, Kerry, and then underneath it was Belichick with the Belichick box checked. I'm like, oh, if only you know how bad it's going to get in this election cycle. Well, did they punch it through? It was the Chad hanging. That's a real question. Hey, oh, like that.

No, it was just a check box. Yeah, that's a good one, though. Yeah, that that was your I had I had another best. You did. Mm hmm. I mean, is it the fact that the pages have set an official record by the all time regular season wins consecutive win streak? Nope.

Or is your worst effect that they consider the the thirty three, thirty four bears to actually hold that record before the Patriots? It's not because that's garbage. It's it's this this this sequence here. This is OK. Give me the sequence. Well, seconds left. Yeah, first and goal from the four.

Yeah. Offside's bravel. Yeah, first and goal from the two incomplete. Incomplete. Incomplete worth down. Max Stronger, the middle, no game. Good. Patriots like they they.

Yeah, I don't know. You could see, like, after they stuffed that guy on it, like Rodney was just going buck while, like. But that was like, you could tell, like, this there's so much pride in this defense again. Yeah, this defense is so good. Yeah. And we've seen this before, remember, against the Bills, against Drew Bledsoe and the Bills, when the Bills are trying for that

garbage time touchdown and it's a red zone stop and they come up and stop them. Or even a nothing game. Exactly. I was going to say that thirty one nothing. Where they put the random week five game where even if they score, you have a 10 point lead and there's literally four seconds left. Doesn't matter, actually. But what's it like? Rodney Harrison and Mike Vrabel and Teddy Brusky and Richard Seymour.

And they just tie laws in that talk. And they yeah, they rise to the occasion and they're just like, let's go. I love it. It's so good. Yeah. Yeah. That's the swagger you need, right? That's why we hope to see this year to the Super Bowl this year. That adds you. Yeah. And always stepping up. Hopefully, that's what we'll see this year in the preview defense.

I mean, Don, now I have a chance to win it. Mm hmm. What happened? Couldn't get it done. No. What a surprise. So next week, Steve, on this Patriots Times podcast. Who is it? I don't know. The New York Jets who won again in this week. Oh, yeah. Isn't it like aren't the Jets real good this year? Jets are undefeated to start the season.

Five and all back. Anything I think it might be. Yeah, I think it is. I think it's still Pennington without this is him coming back from his his injury from the fourth preseason game last year, right? I think so. Is this pre or post shoulder issues, I wonder? I'm sure we'll find out next week, but it is Chad Pennington.

Start him getting fucked up in the fourth preseason game. I mean, my favorite jet story of all time. It's pretty good. I mean, it's up there with the but fumble, I think. I think you can't top the but fumble and just how that I mean, the but fumble is it's really Mark Sanchez's fault. But the whole game. Everybody who put him in position to make that play their fault, too.

But the whole Chad Pennington. That is not his fault. That is solely on the jets as an organization's fault. That's why I love it because they had a good quarterback and they just ruined him by playing him in the fourth preseason game. What the fuck are you doing? I just I just love it. It's so jets.

It's fantastic. Yeah. And they're going to do the same thing with Zach Wilson. They're going to ruin him, too, just like they did. So I'm Donald. I mean, that's kind of what they do, right? And like you can go back and name all the quarterbacks. They're so dysfunctional.

They just take talent and ruin it. Yeah. Yeah. That's just their M.O. And I love it. I love every second of it. You really do. I can see it in your eyes. Like this is this isn't for radio or anything.

Like this is this is how you actually feel. Yes. Yeah, I hear you. All right. So yeah. So next week, the it's at home. So the New York Jets will be traveling to Gillette Stadium. The five and old New York Jets, the five and old New England Patriots. We'll see how this goes next week. I wonder what will happen.

I don't know. Turn it next week to see how much of a blubbering little bitch. Greggy on the Patriots dynasty park. Yeah. So until then, yes, we will see you later. You later.