Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2004 Week 9: Patriots at Rams

Episode Date: October 26, 2021

A battered Patriots team suffering its worst (and first) loss in a long time now has to travel to St. Louis to face the former Greatest Show on Turf. Doing so without a defensive backfield is a bold choice, but let's see how it plays out. Can anyone step in and save the day defensively? Perhaps a WR who wears #80? Join all 3 Brown brothers to find out!Show NotesHere's http://www.tombradycar.com, as promised. Apologies in advance, remember this was Greg's idea.Here's the Primetime highlights if you want to watch em: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LyO9LSl670And don't forget: if you're going to be in Charlotte for the Pats/Panthers game, let us know by texting the Dynasty Hotline [phone]). We might see you there!Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast, as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Patriots' Dynasty podcast, the podcast where we're going back and rewatching

every game of the Patriots' Dynasty starting in 2001. I'm your host, Andy Brown, with me today. Surprise both brothers, Steve and Greg. Greg, we knew it was going to be here. Steve was a last minute decision, a game time decision, if you will, been traveling the world. Steve, how's it going? You know, I just just like Troy Brown, just whatever you guys ask me, I'll get it out

and make it happen. Well, unlike the Patriots' defensive backfield in this game, Steve actually showed up. So thanks for that. And we have Greg back here. You haven't had Greg in a while, kind of like Corey Dillon in this game. I haven't seen him in a few weeks, but he's back, too. How you doing, G? That's right. Good.

Summer, Greg, you know, summer, man. Yeah. He's out partying, living large. Oh, yeah. So what you've been doing really? You know, nothing. Work. Not even on YouTube. Scrolling, you know, social media, Reddit for hours on end until I feel

actually pain in my body. So the usual. OK. Yeah. Nice. All right. So this week, we were talking about 2004, week nine. The Patriots headed to St. Louis, Missouri, Missouri. Yeah, that feels right. St. Louis, Missouri to to to take on the St. Louis at the time, Rams, who are now the L.A. Rams.

This is the rematch of Super Bowl 36. These two teams haven't seen each other since then when the Patriots beat the Rams in that game. A lot of stuff is the same. Same head coach, Mike Martz. Same offensive weapons, Isaac Bruce. Who else is on that? Tori Holtz, Marshall Falk.

But there's some new things. I didn't see Ricky Proll show up. I don't think he may have been on the team, but if he was. Huh? He was on the Panthers. Oh, that's right. Yeah, he was on the Panthers in 2003. Yeah. Yeah. But there were some some new names that we saw. Quarterback is no longer a back a grocery bagger.

It is now Mark Bulger, who coming into this game was the winning winningest quarterback by win percentage, which started at least 10 games. I don't think that held up, but. We may need to start. Yeah, I was pissed about that when I saw that Kurt Warner wasn't starting that they just threw him on the trash heap. They did. Yeah. OK, like two years ago, he started in the Super Bowl for him, winning MVPs.

Yeah, like the greatest show on turf, the best offense the NFL has ever seen. Yeah, I think he suffered some injuries, though. He struggled a bit because of it. So apparently he, like, missed a bunch of games after the Super Bowl season against the Pats, he missed a bunch of games and, like, only played seven games in the next year. He only played one game and he fumbled six times. Six times. Holy crap. That's because he had a broken thumb, so he couldn't hold the ball.

But then at that point, like, dude, just get off the field. If you can't hold the ball, just be doing after the first three, you got to realize something's not not right, and this isn't going to go well. And also, Steve, I'm glad you're here because this is. I think it may have been your favorite player for a while, Steven Jackson. Is that right? No, just because his name is the same as mine doesn't mean. No, I really thought you were a huge Steven Jackson fan. No.

No. All right. Well, fuck it. Who's a big Steven Jackson fan? Who do you even spell the same? Yeah, he spells with a V, wouldn't asshole. It's like Greg with two G's. Double G Greg's the worst. Greg goes to Halter. Now, it pits to Greg Burr-Halter, too. But who's the guy that used to write for you?

Or maybe he still does write for you, Steven, who's like a super pedantic prick. Yeah, I swear to God, every Greg with three G's in it is just a dickhead. I didn't even think that there's three G's. Who was the coach in the in the the bills for a while, too? Greg Williams, Greg Williams, Greg Williams. Yeah, as a double G. Yeah. And the U.S. men's national team coach right now, that's like shit in his pants every game playing like Trinidad and Tobago.

He's a he's a triple G, too. Triple G. G is a fucking G. Yeah, I see what you guys are saying. They got his nickname is triple G. So everyone on Reddit calls them because they hate him so much. That feels right. Yeah. Yeah. So.

The other player who is still the same, but a little bit different in this game is Grant Williams, an offensive lineman who started in that Super Bowl on the offensive line for the Patriots, but is now starting for the Rams. And that's also good for the Patriots, because he was fucking terrible in this game and gave up a handful of sacks. So good for him. And also, I think we've already talked. I think we did like a bit of a deep dive last time during the Super Bowl

about Leonard Little and how much of a scumbag he was. But he's an easy dude to dislike. Yeah, I just wanted that out there. Let's fuck that guy. Also, the Rams are two and a half point favorites coming into this game. Yeah, I found quite shocking. Right. I guess you get the three points for being at home. So Patriots are coming off of 20, whatever game, win streak.

Yeah, against the four and three Rams. It's like, geez, yeah, four and three people must have been flying on Mark Bolger. I feel like I remember Mark Bolger being like a the hot ticket. Yeah. Yeah. So my Mark Bolger 15 and one at home in his career coming into this game. So he doesn't lose at home. Yeah, that didn't last. None of I don't think any of these stats lasted.

Do you have his his his numbers like career wise? My guess is he didn't win a ton of games down the stretch. But while you're looking that up, we'll talk about the Patriots coming in this game last week. Steve, I think, may still be angry at me for continuing to talk about it because that was a bad game. That was a bad episode. But their doors blown off by the Steelers.

Why was it a bad episode? Andy wouldn't stop talking about the Steelers. Stephen doesn't like to talk about losses, which I think we had all forgotten because we haven't had one in 20 something episodes. And I had other stuff I want to talk about because I actually watched the game. And you weren't quick to go on to stupid tangents and fill a bunch of time with a bunch of shit. So Andy talked about those Steelers and how the worst.

The worst. They know like he just wouldn't shut up. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's that's pretty accurate rendition of what happened last time. Um, his stat check, Mark Folger. He 2007, he went two and 10, 2008, two and 13, 2009, one and seven. So yeah, I think the wheels came off a little bit there at the end. There sounds like it. Yeah. Yeah. Great. OK.

Oops. But coming into this, he was he was hot. So maybe as the pages just rallied him or maybe they showed the I don't know. Because he had one, a bunch of games coming into this. But the Patriots got their doors blown off in Pittsburgh last week and came into this game with literally no defense backs. Huh? Halloween, right? Yes, there we go.

You guys dress up. You should have dressed up for the Halloween game. I dressed up. Maybe a little Halloween spooky costume. The game was spooky enough. Steve, what's your Halloween costume this year going to be? I'm going to be in Arizona for Halloween. So I'm going to have a costume.

It's going to be a card on. We're going to be a cactus. Hey, you're self green. Dude, that's a good one, Andy. And just walk around with your arms up in like go posts. Now I'm a cactus. Yeah. Well, cacti. Shave your head if you want to go all in.

You can just tell people to shut up and get away from eating. Exactly. Yeah. Just be a complete people. Be a prick. Yeah. It's good. I might steal that. It's a lot of green paint. You can be Greg Berhalter. The same thing, right? Prickly. Greg Williams, even.

Yeah, but speaking of prickly, this defensive backfield for the Patriots. Super prickly, because there was nobody there. Yeah, how did we get here? So Ty Law heard himself last game. Remember, Steve? Yeah, that was his last snap lever. Right. And that's that's when the wheels fell off for the imagine that.

Right. But I think Steve's on that may have been his last snap as a patriot. Yeah, for sure. It was just that's a tough way to go out. And then Tyrone pool also I think got injured. I don't know if it was during that game or during the practice, but he didn't start at all. And then on literally the second defensive play from scrimmage,

the Sunday Samuel tried to tackle someone and that's all he needed to do. Tried to tackle the tight end and I think separated shoulders or something like that. So he was out, which meant your defensive backs were Dexter Reed and Earthwind Moreland, which are all time, all time name team. I think the easy German have a nickname for him. I was going to be a friend and fire. Right. Well, do you know how he got his name? No, he's got to bear with one in fire, right?

Yeah, obviously. Steve, yeah, what do you mean? Yeah, you're going to get on a 15 minute wrap. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Guy, this is whole backstory. No, his name is Earthwind. Obviously his mom's favorite band was Earthwind and Fire. Come on, dumbass.

No, you don't know that for sure. Yeah, it could have been his dad's river band. Seriously, it was on his Wikipedia. I mean, that's got to be like the first line of Wikipedia, right? Is why the fuck is he named Earthwind? Mm hmm. I mean, that's a pretty bad ass name, though. Earthwind Moreland is just right.

So fucking fire name in itself. You know, it really is. That's why they didn't put the fire in there is because it because you didn't so fire it. It could be his middle name. You never know. You know, I might just be Fuego. No, I looked into that.

I don't know, but it starts with a C. Earthwind or Nelius. Yeah, it's got to be something bad. Chad, Chad, OK. So yeah, him and Dexter Reed and Randall Gay, I believe it was. Are your three defensive backs, which means actually, that's two defensive backs, two cornerbacks in the safety with your boy, Greg Brown, Wilson.

Yeah, Eugene Wilson. So they needed a slot corner to play in the nickel because the Rams like to run three wide receiver sets a lot. And so this is a sneakier game because this is the first ever appearance of two way player, wide receiver and cornerback Troy Brown. Well, well, well, well, well, he's a three way player, wide receiver. Yeah, returner, kick, returner.

That's true. All right. Four way play, he's lined up a quarterback ones to running back. Throw it all in. Yeah, he's he's taken some gunner. He's definitely a gunner at some point. He must have been. Yeah. Pun block slash pitch to other guy

in the field go block. Yeah, whatever the hell that play was. So I think while obviously the AFC championship game, you know, one was his like peak Troy Brown moment. This may be like number two peak Troy Brown because he yeah, because here's his stat line in this game. Right. A couple of I have a kind of argument. Go ahead. All right.

Yeah, a couple catches one for a touchdown, not off of Tom Brady and played he wasn't actually punt returning in this game because obviously had other shit to do. But he also was in coverage for like half the game and actually had a pass break up that probably would have been an interception if the ball wasn't tipped at the last scrimmage. So pass breakups. And I think he may have actually been in on one of the tackles.

I don't think I credit for it or not, but he was definitely in the vicinity. He has three tackles, three tackles, three, see, there you go. So and he's covering the likes of Isaac Bruce and fucking not Ricky Pro, whom I think of. Oh, I forget his name every time. Tori Hall. So it's not like he's covering scrubs either. He's a he did get turned around once, but that's OK. And he had a pass interference call done, which I will say right now, absolute bullshit.

It was it was back in the time of the league where they were doing like face guarding that they don't call anymore. They didn't even touch the guy, but like jumped in front of him and didn't turn his head and mouth. Yeah, one of those bullshit calls. So it was great. So two pass breakups, one on the on the stat sheet. It kind of makes sense to me, though, because it's like

how much of playing cornerback is like X's and O's? I can't imagine it's that much, right? I think having watched him, the only time he got confused is when he had to play zone. Yeah, because that's tough. But if you're just like a man, man to man, I think a lot of the wide receivers stuff translate because he knows what the guy in front of him's and it's like just be quick,

you know, quick feet, you know, get your head turned around at the right time, the technique stuff more so than like, yeah, know your zone or like, you know, yeah, you got to know to coverage things. Yeah, you got to know how to pass off the guys or whatever. So it actually it got me thinking. Obviously, we know Edelman played in a similar situation. Is there anybody on today's team that you think could do the same thing? Gunner.

Yeah, I think part of the turn is in general. Cool. So it's funny because I actually like I was like, you know, I wonder if this has been done more often. I looked it up and there was a reddit thread of someone asking that question. Yeah. And it was back when Nelson Aguilar was on the Eagles and he goes, he goes, Nelson Aguilar plays defensive back right now. He's like, he's knocked out more passes than I can count.

Shit. I mean, that's that's a timely throwback right there, considering we just watched the Cowboys game and him throw a pass to the ground in overtime. That probably if he had caught it, would have gone for the distance. Such a such a Phillies fan joke to make, though. I love that whole making fun of Aguilar bit they do. It's so good. Oh, my God. So do you do?

Can you think of anybody else that's done it in the past? To wait in like recent history? Because obviously, like, you know, the wicked old school guys. I know we saw Terrell Buckley line up as wide receiver. I'm going to guess Dion Sanders probably did as well. Yeah. Do you do you have a list? Yeah, yeah. I mean, just from that reddit thread, it's not like I couldn't find anything like saw. But right. Do you have any hints that you can give us?

I mean, the thing that jumped out to me is there is not a lot of people going from receiver to defensive back. It's the other way around. It's the other way around, which I think is just like we have this really talented athletic guy. Let's try and get him involved. Like a Devin Hester type of Devin Hester. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there was one guy that led me down a little rabbit hole here. Have you heard the name Mike Furry?

No. Yes. No. I don't know why. I recognize him. Yeah. So Mike Furry. This is this guy's story. He's just he's like a white guy that's the same size and height as me. 6 foot 170. He's like a he's like an all state in in high school. He sets all these high school records. He walks on at Ohio State, but he's sitting behind Terry Glenn and Eddie George there. So he can't get any playing time. So he transfers to UNI Northern Iowa.

Okay. I think he might have played with Kurt Warner if the years line up. No, no, he wouldn't have been after Kurt Warner. But either way, he's a he's a three time all American at UNI. Undrafted goes to the XFL. XFL Dispans goes to the Arena League, sets a shitload of records in the Arena League. Jesus. Eventually gets picked up by St. Louis.

Okay. And of course, it it might be now. 2004 ish. Yeah. 2004. I think he's on this team. So but he he doesn't get a camp. They don't want him to play wide receiver, which is what he was playing in college. So he he's playing safety. So in 2005, he has four interceptions and 58 tackles playing free safety for the the ramps.

He gets traded to Detroit. And they have all these injuries on the wide receiver. So he switches sides and the very next year, he catches 98 balls for a thousand 86 yards and six touchdowns. I had him pictured as a as a pattern. Yeah. Holy shit. What a fucking legend, dude. Yeah.

In this here he is. Mike Furry, three targets, one catch eight yards in 2004 with the with the Rams. Yeah. Yeah. Jesus Christ. It's all over the place. And then doesn't really do much anything after that, though. Like that one year was it.

But imagine how gratifying that year was for him to just be like every coach that ever fucking doubted me can suck it. Thousand yard season, baby. And things that way for him. You can't take that away like what Joey Harrington throwing on the ball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2006. Yeah. So shout out Mike Furry if you're out there listening. I'm a Mike Furry stand. He's made both ways. Good for him. Yeah. And also imagine a guy my size playing in the NFL.

That's safety. The quarterback was John Kittner actually. Thank you very much, Steve. Nice. Who actually threw for 4,000 yards that year. 21 touchdowns. Pretty good. Kaboodle.

22 interceptions. Not so good. Wow. But yeah, that's that's fucking stuff. The paradox of Kittner right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, that was the Roy Williams years. Jesus. Okay. So any other notables that played both ways, Greg? No, those are really only names that were that jumped out. I mean, I tried to do a lot of searching on the Internet. That's all I really found. Well, if any listeners have any guys that we miss, let us know.

Two-way players. Yeah. Geno Capoletti. Geno Capoletti did everything, didn't he? Oh, yeah. Some of those old school guys played like fucking every play of the game. Oh, yeah. Dick Buck has played like tight end and linebackers.

Yeah. Or like quarterback and free safety. And it's like, geez. Exactly. Yeah. Well, is that true? I mean, that's also when they were playing part-time, when they weren't being doing their full-time job is, you know, a plumber.

Yeah. Yeah. Smoking butts at half time. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm going to watch this game.

Sucker. No. But I was thinking that, Greg, your rating system, right? Do you even remember what it is? Yep. All right. Give me the rundown again. No, I don't remember.

I remember there's a name game. The games that have a name like the David Patton game or the snowball. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And then there was like the bottom was just like your normal, it was a loss. And then it was like your normal like regular season jets. Logging it. Yeah.

Slogging it. Hidden gems. Hidden gems. All right. So there was a hit. Was there hidden gems? I couldn't remember. Yeah.

Because I think this falls. You wouldn't remember unless you actually looked it up again. Yeah. I think this falls under the hidden gems one. Yeah. One of those ones where like you don't remember it all, but it's worth going back and rewatching because there was some great shit that happened.

And we're not going to go too deep into it just because again, I'm the one that watched this. Well, I have a quote from Bill Belichick to that point. OK. He said, probably as complete a victory as I've ever been around. Wow. OK. That's rich. Yeah.

That's kind of surprising to hear from him. Defense, special teams and offense, baby. Yeah. I mean, the defense at the end of the first half got a strip sack of bulger that they turned into a field goal at the end of the at the end of the half. Yeah. Five sacks, right? Put them up 1915.

Yep. Got a bunch of sacks on this. I think it's supposed to be pretty good offense still, even in even though there's no current war and it's not the greatest show on turf, like there's still weapons. And they held them to 22 points. Pass 1, 40, 22, by the way. Six in the NFL.

Yeah. In yards. Exactly. So this team could put it. This team could move the ball and they did kind of move the ball. They just couldn't finish drives, basically. And that was also with Troy Brown at defensive back. So that probably added something to it.

But yeah, there was a lot of pressure. I mean, I think at least one or two of the sacks were on three man rushes. It was like one of those. That's pretty bad. Yeah. It was like it was it was pretty defensively overwhelming. And then you had Adam Minteri, who probably gets the game ball in this, I would think. At least shares with Troy Brown because he went four for four on field goals.

And none of them were gimmies. They were like 40 plus yarders. And you also had a touchdown pass, which you want to describe that play. Yeah. Probably play the game play. I'm a little surprised we haven't seen it since. I didn't even know he had a touchdown pass. He does.

And it's right here. Did you see the play, Stevie? I did watch the highlight on the website. Yes. And cool, huh? It's not. Yeah, it's actually pretty impressive play. The CBS coverage of it leaves a lot to be desired,

which I will rant on in a second. But let's talk about the play first. Basically, it's trying to kick a field goal from the five yard line. They've already kicked four at this point. And this is their first drive of the third quarter. So they're up like 1914 at this point. And they drive down to the five pretty easily, but then stall because they've been struggling to get the ball in the end zone at the end.

And so they send the kicking unit out. Troy Brown is part of that goes inside the numbers, which is all you have to do, which I think we've actually seen this season. Like the pages have got it. Yeah, the pages have got penalties called on them because the wide receiver like goes onto the field, but doesn't go. You have to go like from the sideline on the inside of the numbers. And then you can line up wherever you want.

So we did that. Went to the numbers, turned around and started, but like walking off the field as if he wasn't going to be on the field. Um, but then just stood like on the field, but at the sideline. And so the Patriots lined up for the field goal, but snapped the ball directly to Adam Vinitieri, like right to his hands. They turned in through a, I think it was a perfect spiral right to Troy Brown, obviously wide open uncovered, who just literally walked into the end zone backwards.

The old hidden ball trick. Yeah. Yeah. It's perfect. The old hidden Troy trick. People have never seen that play elsewhere, like ever again. No, that's definitely happened before. Yeah.

I'm sure it has, but it's uncommon. I mean, yeah, but I am surprised a lot on the punt, the punts team too. If they don't have anybody to mark in the gunner. I've seen that a couple of times this year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You see that play by Hunter Renfrow?

Yes. So they do that. So Oakland's there. They're punting to Oakland and Renfrow is the returner. Yeah. And there's no one marking the gunner. So they just snap it and throw it to the gunner. Renfrow recognized it like before it got snapped and started sprinting down the field

and just fucking unloads on their gunner like right at the marker. Yeah. And pops the ball loose and it's incomplete. It was perfect. Not thinking about baby catching. I was like, I thought I thought he dropped it, but yeah. Well, either way, it was a turnover on downs and it was a fucking amazing play by Renfrow. Yeah.

Yeah. That's fantastic. Yeah. Front from the punt returner position is pretty impressive. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I have seen that work a few times. I think it was like last year.

It was one team, Panthers or someone just like random NFC team. Like tried it a couple of times, like more than once in a season. Yeah. We haven't seen it really on the field goal. Not like that. Yeah. Especially with Belichick, Mr. Conservative now. I guess so.

Yeah. Something's changed, but what are you going to do? Well, let's let's loop back around to that because I have some thoughts. All right. Yeah. Let me rant about CBS being fucking. Oh, yeah. Marvin commentators are pretty good in this game, Andy.

Commentators are fine. Commentators I actually didn't have a problem with. I don't know. Steve just says that. Yeah. To start a rant because he, yeah, I know. I recognize that completely, but I'm not going to let him down. Am I?

I'm a good brother. So I know that he hasn't watched the game. This is a good brother. Why the hell did we talk about the Steelers like 45 minutes last time, Andy? Because I'm still your brother. It's because I'm a good brother. Doesn't mean I can't give you shit every once in a while. Yeah.

That's not a good brother, Steve. Yes, it is. Well, how would you know? I would never do that to you, Steve. Yeah. So that's how I know. Because Greg is such a good brother. So that's not what I've heard.

He's escaping out. CBS. And I still feel they're like they're kind of like this. They're probably, I think they're the worst of the channels that air football games. Like Fox is fine. Yeah. Mom would like to have a word with you about that. The old dance and robot on.

Well, that's true. Yeah. But just from like a presentation standpoint, like they don't miss it. They're never egregious. And I feel like CBS always tries to get like fancy with something and they just like miss the actual like what's going on. Like that in this game, they actually missed a kickoff. Like they didn't come back from commercial in time.

And so the the announcers had to tell you what happened, like why the pages all of a sudden had the ball in the 35. And apparently it was a play that, you know, Patrick Pass fumbled the kick return, but still like recovered a marriage to like do something really impressive and get to the 35. It's like, well, cool. And then even on this play, like they're zoomed in on Adam Vinitieri's face as he's lining up for the field goal. So you miss like three quarters of the actual play live.

And then they don't show replay. Oh, it's live sports. And you got to cut them a break. No. Yeah. But it's like the other channels don't don't have these issues. I feel like I feel like CBS is the one that's the most egregious. They're they're all they don't other don't miss plays.

They don't have these awful camera angles. And it's always CBS where I'm like trying to pull the highlight. I'm just like, I can't get an actual highlight of this play, because you haven't shown it correctly. Fuck, fuck, fuck, CBS. Yeah. Fuck him. What does that stand for, Greg?

More like crappy broadcast system. Right. Thanks for that. See, that's that's being a good brother. Yeah. Take notes, Steve. Certified butthole suckers. You know, very naughty.

Very naughty. I don't know. They're all the same to me. I honestly like I know they're different, but I if anything, if anything, Fox is the worst because they have the worst announcers. Yeah, I would say the one I watched a game on mute now anyway. So Joe Buck and Akemen are just they've been around for too long for me. Unless it's Tony Romo.

I'm watching him on mute. I don't care. Gus Johnson. Go ahead. Oh, yeah. I got shot. Sorry. But he does.

Johnson. Does he still do football? Rules. Yeah. Every now and then I think he does some Fox stuff. Yeah. He's he's great. I love him.

And he's the best for if you're watching a highlight package because he goes crazy when there's crazy plays. Yeah. So if the highlight package just crazy plays, it's like four minutes of Gus Johnson just losing his mind. It's a fucking hype video. It's amazing. Yes.

So awesome. Love that shit. Yeah. So what are you going to work? Did you want to? Did you have a rant, Greg? It felt like you were brewing something. Oh, that was more about Bill Belichick in 2021.

And what a beta cuck soy boy. Yes. Can we talk about how bad the referees were in this game first though? Oh, yeah. Good point, Steve. Yeah. We got to talk about that. Dude, how about that call in the third quarter, Andy?

Oh, God, they totally missed it. And then when they tried to show the replay, they missed the replay on it too. Yeah. They got the number wrong when they announced it too. It was such bullshit. Oh, how dare they? No, this was who's the one with the guns? Ed Hockley.

Yes. This is an Ed Hockley Hockley game. Dude loves to explain himself some calls. Fuck yeah, dude. But he also in this game loved to have a fucking coffee clutch about him too. Like every call took coffee clutch. What's that? We just get together and gossip for a while over a couple of days.

Never heard of a call like that. It's literally what's caught you in Google if you don't see it. Yeah, it's funny. I was making a joke the other day to Kelly about your kitchen is all like in between being worked on. So it looks like a homeless person's shelter. And I was like, I just picture Andy in there like smoking his coffee crack pipe in the corner. Just to get a hit, man. Yeah.

Coffee has been a struggle. I will say that. Yeah. Don't think I haven't persevered though. Yes. Six, bro. Hey, coffee is important. Coffee is culinary, baby.

I got the shirt to prove it. No, the referees were OK. There was one that they did take three minutes in to go to Steve Brown's favorite rants to validate the challenge of a fumble. A literal three minutes like I was doing the fast forward and I made sure to check. For Steve, I'll say this, the the replay this year in the NFL is so much better with that booth. Yeah, because they they they have like a specific guy. Yes.

So it's like super obvious. They just knock it out. Yeah, it's beautiful to do it. The fact is taking this long is garbage. I know. Yeah, people have been talking about for years for years. Yeah, yeah. And surprise, surprise.

It's working like seamlessly because there was no downside to it. And also like the that because they have the pylon cams now and they've got they set the and a new one on the first down marker. Have you noticed that set a new one? So so they've got an extra pylon that they put with the camera in it on the first down marker. That's for the camera. Yeah, so because then so they you can actually have like if it's a close call and the guy is diving for the first down, you can actually have a camera angle of it,

which I think Bill Belichick has been asking for probably since 2004 here. So also asking for lasers over the goalposts as well. Lasers of the goalposts. That's like tracking in the ball, right? Yeah. Soccer is goal line technology. Why do we not have technology that shows if the ball crossed the plane? I think because even if it does, you still have so many other variables.

Like is the knee down? And can you? Yeah, I know. But you can stop it at a certain place and be like at this time in the video has the ball across the line. Yeah, I mean, that's the video. The video changes color filter when the ball crosses the line. Boom.

Yeah, problem solved, Andy. That's fair. I don't disagree. I'm a proponent for technology. I'm just a little surprised you are. Dude, have you seen the fucking tennis? They got that shit down to the millimeter. They do.

Yeah, I do fear Greg. That's very expensive and the NFL has no money. Yeah. That's yeah, right. Bill Belichick has talked about starting a bake sale to raise money for it. So maybe maybe this year. Classic Belichick humor there. Yeah.

Oh, definitely. Grouchy dad humor. What about baseball? Should we get rid of umpires and just have strikes and balls called with the computer? Yes. No, I kind of like baseball when they fuck around. What the fuck, Greg? God damn a lot.

I get rid of the offsides too. No replays on offsides. No replays on offsides. Yeah, that's true. I got a I got a question. Someone asked me this last week and I didn't know the answer. When is it a false start versus a you know, sometimes it's just like turn around and look at the quarterback.

Yeah. When is where's that line drawn? Uh, I think once everybody is set for one second, like everybody, all the office players have to be set and not moving for one second before you can snap the ball. But you can you can move and jump around until then. Okay. But if everybody has it set for a second, Does it have anything to do with when the quarterback says set hut?

I don't believe so. No. Okay. No. Because he can literally say that as many times as he wants. Right. Because they do that. Like they'll run to the line and say set hut and then nothing will happen.

And then they'll they'll change the formation. Yeah. Yeah. They'll go back to like, yeah, instead of being under center, they'll go there. Yeah. Paint man. He's all like, God damn time. Fucking pig.

Ruins man ruined Madden for me because all they would do is just make him change audible every play at the line for fucking 45 minutes to get a game through. Uh, anything else you want to complain about? Oh, the referees. I wasn't finished. Thanks for reminding me, Steve. Appreciate it. Oh, thank God.

No, there was one play where I don't think I've ever seen this before, but there was double offsetting penalties, which is a new one. There was offensive and defensive holding on the same play. Then after the play was over, there was offensive and defensive taunting. Both penalties offset replay fourth. Don't get me started on taunting. Or is it the two guys? No, different players.

The holdings were on two guys and then the taunting was on two other people at the end of the play. Both offset replay fourth down. That was on fourth down as well. Amazing. Edge of my seat, boys. Steve, anything you want to get off your chest? No. Okay, good.

I had another couple of notes on our good friend, Marshall Falk. He's a scrub now. Just quick update on Marshall Falk in 2004. He sucks. He's not as good. 100%. Yeah. Well, that's why they drafted Steve and Jackson.

Steve's favorite player. Yeah, I love that guy back in the day. Whereas the Patriots trending in the opposite direction. The leading rusher in 2003 was Antoine Smith, who finished the season with 642 yards. Corey Dillon halfway through this game, 676 yards. And we are on week nine. Good stat, Andy. Yeah.

So I think Corey Dillon will finish with more rushing yards this season in 2004 than Antoine Smith did in 2003. You want to hear my stat of the week? I do. So I was looking into that Marshall Falk thing and the whole running back cliff at 30 thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I was looking into that.

Is that how old he is in the season? Yeah, I think he's right about there. He's like 29, I think. So the cliff actually more strongly correlates to 29 than it does 30. Okay. Which is interesting. And there's a bunch of cool, if you're into statistics and stuff, there's a bunch of cool articles out there in the internet.

You can look up, I don't know, it didn't really translate well into like an audio medium. No shit. Tell me the R value, Greg. Yeah, exactly. So the one stat I did get out of that thought was interesting. So I was like, oh, I'll look and see this current season of like NFL rushing leaders. Like how many of those guys are either 29 years or older? Yeah.

So I looked up the list of the top 100 and there are nine running backs in the top 100 that are 29 years or older. Jesus. And there's also nine quarterbacks in the top 100 that are 29 years or older. Tom Brady, is he on that list? I don't believe Tom. He's not top 100 rusher. Got some rushing yards.

Yeah. So there's as many 29-year-old quarterbacks rushing out there as there are running backs. So I think pretty much kind of proves the point. Yeah, I think so. Which running back has pulled like a Tom Brady word? He runs really well for 40 years old. I mean, obviously, Frank Gore is the standard bear for that. Mark Ingram is the highest rushing yards for a...

How old is he? 30? Yeah. Maybe even older. Yeah, we just saw him on the text. He's 26 in the NFL in yards. So I mean, it's not like he's like lighting the world on fire. No, but he's always split time, too.

Camara and... Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Kordarelle Patterson was in there. I was like, yeah, he's technically a running back now, isn't he? David Johnson, Latavius Murray, Raheem Mostert. Like these are all scrubs, really, yeah. Yeah.

Let's just put it this way. They're free agents in your fantasy league. Maybe not in mine, but yes. Who... how old is Derek Henry? That's a good question. Because I feel like he might... He might buck that trend, too. Yeah.

Because Derek Henry is just... He's just so big that I feel like it's... Yeah, so he's probably getting close. So keep this in mind for fantasy drafting, though. Two years from now, yeah. I mean, yeah, Derek Henry, if he follows the trends, he's going to follow. That's what we'll do is we'll isolate you saying this, right?

Yeah. And I'll cut this. We'll give it the old Steve treatment, the Ryan Tannehill fucking... Josh Allen, yeah. Yeah, we do the updates. I mean, Tannehill's cooled off there. Tannehill, yeah, but Josh Allen. Tannehill, less so.

Tough takeoff. Tough, tough take on that one. He's going to win the MVP. Well, if he can convert any more fourth downs, he will. All right. Let's see. Speaking of football, you want to do best and worst in this game?

Sure. Steve, you want to go first? Yeah, I didn't watch it. So I don't know if I have a best or whatever. The best is Troy Brown. Okay. This is Greg Little. Tineese.

Leonard Little. Three Gs. Greg Little. What the fuck is Greg Little? Okay. Leonard Little, same thing. Well, if you hadn't realized it, he's Steve's pulling this out of his ass.

No shit. I figured you would just open up my show notes and just fucking pull something from there, but now he's just fucking... And you know nobody reads those things. Love it. Greg reads them. He definitely reads them.

That's right. Because otherwise he wouldn't have said anything about the Rams being favored by two and a half. I highlight shit that I know. No, I didn't read them. That was from Wikipedia. The two and a half? No, it wasn't.

Yeah, it was. I don't believe you. I'm taking credit for it. The trick is to put some wild boi shit in those notes to see if people bring it up during the... I probably should have done that. Because that's what I do at work, when they're like,

hey, can you write up the meeting minutes from this meeting? And I know not a single fucking person's reading the meeting. I'll put some wild boi shit right at the end. Oh, yeah. You think you need my wild boi shit? I don't know. Just be like, oh, so-and-so said something ridiculous. And just see if they acknowledge that.

There's a 20-minute argument about whether a hippo would kill a rhinoceros or vice versa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or be like, oh, this person said that they would take the rest of the project and do all the work for us. You know, not like a fired wild boi shit, but just like something that if someone's reading it, it'd be like, what the hell?

I see that with my work email footers. You know, I was like, oh, this is prior property, all that bullshit. Yeah. I think I had something where... Something along the lines of if you read this email, you are... It is assumed that you are agreeing to pay the center of this email, like $2.5 billion or something like that. Never saw any money.

Classic prank right there, Andy. Bit of a shit. Got him. Got him. Or like when they put quotes in there or like have a picture of a horse, you're like, oh, I'm not going to like this person. Ha ha ha ha. Yep.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, you want to do your best and worst? Sure. My best was a Venetary 4 for 4 and a touchdown pass. Yeah. Game ball.

Game ball. My worst was John Gruden. Now or 2004, which is generally... You know, in general. Okay. I don't know. I love it. I think it was over multiple years.

I'm sure it was. Yeah, it was probably happening at this point. So that's fair. Although clueless anti-football pussy is the best. That's what I'm saying. I use that all the time. I must have said that like 15 times since I read it the first time. I should probably be at the bottom of your next...

Yeah. Your next meeting though. We should change the description of our podcast to a bunch of clueless anti-football pussies. Don't tell me, Greg. Don't tell me. It's a wild boy ship. You're meeting now.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's going to be my footer of my work email. So what do you think there are those emails? I want to read them so bad. Oh, so bad. The other 650,000. I want to know what Anonymous is working on right now, because I feel like they should be finding these emails and releasing them to the public.

Who do you think is like the craziest? Dan Snyder. Yeah, Dan Snyder. But that would be like, but that would be like, I'm thinking like the funniest, you know, like Rex Ryan or like Andy Reed's emails. Imagine Andy Reed's emails. All Andy Reed's emails is just forwarding people like barbecue recipes. That's all it is.

He's actually just the caterer for the chiefs. Organizing post game meals and shit. I just have the picture of him wearing that like the face shield that was fogging up. And it's just like him thinking about food. Yeah, yeah, I like to see Pete Carroll as if he's just corny in email. If he if they caught Pete Carroll being like an asshole, I'd be so fucking pumped. Yeah. Well, he's isn't he like he's a conspiracy theorist, isn't he?

I don't know. I'm pretty sure that yeah, there was talk about him being a conspiracy theorist. Like nine like a 9-11 truth or an all sorts of bullshit. Oh, I just watched Loose Change. Did you remember that? Yeah. Yeah. Why?

I don't know. I'm reading a book about 9-11 and I was like, I remember that Loose Change thing. How was it? It's pretty dramatic. Shocking. Yeah. Is that an Alex Jay thing? Loose Change?

No. No. Infra wars. It was really well produced, though. They like must have put some money into it. But it was clearly just like, let's throw a bunch of shit at the wall and see what sticks. You know, but they're like, here's an unanswered question one through 65. That's the documentary.

You know, yep. Yeah, I listened to there's a shout out for a podcast called Knowledge Fight. And it's these two guys who listen to the Alex Jones show. On Infra wars. And Alex Jones is awesome. And debunk all the stuff that he says. Just like point by point. It's like, actually, this is what he's like.

They'll play the clip of what he says. And they're like, so all he did was read the headline. And this is how this is what the actual article says. And here's how he's misappropriating it to get you to buy dick pills. So I didn't see that. I know they're lying because Alex Jones can't read. Oh, yeah. No, he doesn't.

Alex Jones is the man. Dude, your bag Alex Jones guy, Greg. Yeah, he's fucking hilarious. Oh, I agree. He's a natural. If that guy doesn't make you laugh. He's also like taking life too serious. He's also like a super racist anti-satellite.

But other than that, he's funny about it. That killer. He is. He has an absolute character of a person. Yeah. And like his all those guys like court defenses are exactly how I feel. It's like this dude's playing a character on TV. It's not a real person, you know.

It's true. But then he goes on his show and like. Yeah. This is that character. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a little brutal. That was the only thing crossed the line for me.

But the rest of the shit about like goblins and turning frogs. Oh, yeah. It's just fucking funny. It's a little ridiculous. Lizard people, right? Lizard people. Yeah. Lizard people.

That's a thing. Globalists. The globalists. The globalists. Yeah. He's looking to get so worked up and fucking goes real red. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, he just does that as a show, though. Like he doesn't even get he's not even really getting worked up. Apparently. There's someone on that on YouTube that like animates his rants and they're fucking so funny. Oh, I'll be. I'll send a couple to you and they're wicking plenty. All right. I would definitely watch that.

Oh, god damn. Speaking of Alex Jones and conspiracy theories. Here's a conspiracy theory for you, Greg. How is it that the Patriots during this 2004 time frame, how did they go 26 games without allowing an opening drive touchdown? And there was this was their 16 consecutive games scoring first. How is that even a possibility? There's definitely some home cooking going on there, right?

Good coaching. But to score first in 16 consecutive games. And they won the coin flip every season. Even the game that they lost last week and they got blown out, they still scored first. How? Good preparation. I don't know. Loading coins.

Script in. Bro, I'm looking for a goddamn conspiracy. Work me here, you little prick. Okay. Not me. They wait one side of the coin before they give it to the ref. Oh, Steve's on the right path here. We've got a correlation with the coin flips there.

I don't know. I don't know who won. But even then, like the Patriots deferring. So how does that work? They're bugging a lot. Oh, here you go. Here you go. Yes, exactly.

They're bugging the locker room. Or they have, because you know how most teams will have a script for the first X amount of plays. Yeah. So the Patriots have found a way to get the opposing teams script. So they know what that first drive is going to be. And so they can stop it every time. Therefore, you don't allow a touchdown, an opening drive touchdown in the first 26 games. And because of that, you're able to score first.

Because the other team doesn't have yours. Done. Must be it. Makes sense. Alex Jones, here we come. Yeah. All right. That's it.

Nailed it. So do you have a best and worst or? Oh, would you like to hear my best and worst? I can give you a few if you'd like. Yeah, let me get it. Let me get it. Oh, here's a good one. My worst.

I'll start off with my worst. OK. They talk coming back from halftime. They talk about Mike Martz. And all he wanted to talk about at halftime was the referees and how bad they were. It's a fucking loser mentality. It's some bullshit. Who the fuck?

Who the fuck complains about referees? Seriously? Yeah. What kind of loser will complain about referees? That is very much a loser thing. So that's definitely the worst. Is either that or the bullshit? Path and interference call that they call enjoy, but it wasn't path and interference.

Because fuck those referees, right? And anybody complains about them. My best. Let's take a look. Ribbit. Commentators. Fucking professionalism, Andy. Here you go.

Here's here's one. Well, I was I was doing this. This is a gay frog's disgusting beast over there. It was the it was the gay frogs. They were to be in the game. They're talking about Corey Dillon running in the way he runs. And the Dylan Dylan was battering the Rams defense, which I thought was nice. Oh, nice.

Nice little word playing. Right. So shout out to, I don't know. Was Chris Collins or maybe Phil Simms. It doesn't fucking matter. That wasn't bad. And then the fact that they had to talk us through the Patrick Path kick return since broadcast fucking missed it.

Do you have any Randall Gay puns for us, Andy? I don't. Something about frogs. Go with that. Randall turning the frogs gay. It is a good Berman is sometimes a naughty boy. That's right. You tell him.

Did I ever tell that story on the podcast of at college at the kid on my team, Pac A? No. And we went we went to an away game. Yeah. So there was like 10, 15, 20 kids that all showed up at one point in like while we were warming up and they must have got a hole of our roster. Oh, no.

Because they're like walking over to the field and they're like, where's gay? It's like, raise your hand, gay. We want to know who you are, gay. And they just made gay jokes for like 90 straight minutes. Oh, my God. So fucking funny. Yeah. That's that's brutal.

They're like six feet, 160 pounds of gay. Where is he? Some of the shit they're saying was even making him laugh. I imagine he's probably heard it off. If your name is Pat Gay, you've heard every single one. Yeah. And you went to middle school at any point in your life. Exactly.

Oh, yeah. Especially in America. It's like we've been heard all the poop jokes. Oh, yeah. I know all the brown ones. Yeah. Taking it down to Browntown, baby. Oh, the one thing we didn't talk about.

Brady did throw a touchdown. He got you through two. One to Bethel Johnson. Other one to Fame's tight ends and touchdown catcher, Mike Rabel. It was a nice catch. Yeah. It was a great catch. Yeah.

It was like a fallen day. It kind of reminded me of some of those grog catches in the back, like that fade to the back corner. And Grog just kind of like grabs it and manages to hang on to it as he's falling down. Very similar. And can I use your professional journalism test here? Uh-oh.

Remember who, man? Oh, my fails. His tight end. Oh, Manawa Nui. Geez. That was wasted. Oh, what a pro. Is that what you're looking for?

You want the pronunciation? All right, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was really good. Not bad. There was also in this game, the linebacker. It was actually pretty good.

He led the team in tackles and tackles for loss. Pisa tenno isa moia. I don't know how I did with that, but definitely in all time. Not named team. Pisa tenno isa moia. Sounds right to me. And also the fullback Joey Goodspeed, which again, a perfectly named fullback because it ain't great speed,

is it? It's good speed. Three carry, three career carries, six yards, one touchdown, longest of two. Good speed. Not great speed. What about their tight end? A who's there?

Brandon Brandon. I don't see it anywhere. Where is it? You try it. Let me know. Brandon Manu Malayuna. Oh, yes. Okay.

Yeah, I remember him. Manu Malayuna. Manu Malayuna. Yeah. That sounds right. Yeah. Yeah, you nailed it. Pronunciation.

We're okay at it on this where it's it's good speed. It's good pronunciation. Luckily, we're a very international podcast around here. You know, we're huge in somewhere weird Bulgaria or something. Something like that. Yeah, it was, wasn't it? And then we were on the Mexican charts for a while. I think that was thanks to KBN.

Yeah, it wasn't thanks to you. It was thanks to Patscap. I think it was for a little bit. All right. Anything else? Patriots. Oh, they had a goal line stand in garbage time from the three. They held the Rams out of the end zone.

Good for them. Is that noteworthy? I think so. This is defense. You know, Andy, let's break the third wall here. Okay. You know. We never do that.

That one shouldn't make the cut. Why not? I don't know. Okay. This was what the Steelers game was like. It's a garbage tie. Yeah, it's garbage. I still had goal line stand.

It's a stuff that shouldn't make the cut. A goal line stand at 4 to 22. You know, it's like. So a goal line stand, a goal line stand. I guess especially against this offense, six ranked offense. Because pro logging are misery. Yeah.

What else you want to? Oh, oh, there's one more thing. And this you actually probably will like. So Tom Brady in the Super Bowl, because he was the MVP, he won a Cadillac. And so he decided to donate it to his high school. What was his high school grade? St. Mary's Vincent.

That was that is incorrect, but good for you. Eat San Mateo. Something's Sarah. Oh, yeah. I like that. And so they they are raffling off that car at Tom Brady car.com, which sadly no longer exists. But I think if it's available, we should buy Tom Brady car.com

and redirect it to whatever we. We want to make it because that is a great one. So they were raffling it at this point. Yeah. So they announced during this game that they were raffling the Tom Brady's car at Tom Brady car.com. We should fucking buy Tom Brady's cock.com. We should go by that car.

And then just redirect it to a picture of my cock. On the picture view with the inflatable or that. Yeah, correct picture. Let's see. Let's see if it's on the way back machine. Oh, that was going to be my Halloween costume this year. It was going to be the Mac Jones version of the same thing. Do you have a Mac Jones jersey?

No, I didn't think so. That was where it all fell apart. Oh, oh, it's a man. I found it. Hang on. Let me let me share my screen with you, boys. Uh, make sure you ask if we can see it once it's up there. I won't do no such thing because I know you can because you're not the lights.

So this is when Tom Brady's car.com. I can't see it. Yeah, it's too small. I don't care. It's my pet peeve at work. Can you guys see my screen? Yeah, man. And then everybody's on mute so you don't hear anything.

And then somebody filing on mute. Yeah. So ticket $25 each with five tickets for a hundred bucks. Grand Prize Tom Brady's Cadillac XLR. It's the one. It's the pit photos, photo above not actual car, but the Cadillac XLR is the two-seater road stair with convertible. That's nice.

With the trunk autographed by Brady and other Super Bowl participants to ensure authenticity. Oh, although they actually said in the broadcast that it was under the hood is where the entire team inside. So maybe that gets updated later. There you go. Junipero Sarah High School. That's where it was. So he gave it to his high school and they're raffling it.

Yeah. Yeah. That's why he gave it to them. They were probably like, what the fuck am I going to do with this Cadillac? If I'm the principal, I'm like, oh, thanks, Tom. Appreciate it. Yeah.

I know how I'm going to work tomorrow. $60,000 or something. The school bus picks up one kid each. Yeah, I won't give it a time. Yeah. This star quarterback doesn't drive with the rest of the team. He just goes in the caddy. Well, they have had some big alumni from this high school

because the same high school that Barry Bonds and Lynn Swan came from. So a bit of a pedigree there. Same with Ty Law and Daryl Rivas. Oh, same high school. That's right. Yeah. I think there was someone else famous to Tony Dorsett. Maybe something like that.

Yeah. I remember them. I feel like we talked about that. Alec Kippa. Find the VIN of that car so we can go buy it. By the what? Find the VIN. The VIN number of the car.

We can go buy it. Oh, OK. Let me just look that up real quick. Spot the kid that worked at a dealership. Yeah. No shit, right? You can have Tom Brady's car. I think it's quite cheap now.

What's the VIN on that? 20 years old. I doubt it's cheap. OK. Yeah. Can we get the VIN just to make sure this is a legit place? I want to check the car facts. Well, they do have a phone number here that you can call.

So I can give you that, Steve. Moja Goddard. Let's call him on the air. I was going to do it. I said, you should do it, Andy. No, I'm not going to do that. I'm too busy trying to see if I can buy Tom Brady car dot com. Did you look at Tom Brady cock dot com two for Greg?

I haven't yet, but that's that's next on the list. And if they don't have that, just do cock and ball. That was probably taken already. Tom Brady's car is available. Tom Brady car. Tom Brady car is available. Perfect. $9.48 for the year.

It's deep. Actually, no, $5.98. It's on sale, boys. I feel like this might be website serendipity. The URLs do, yeah. Use coupon new com 598 to check out. What are we going to put on the website, though? I think we've already discussed that, haven't we?

Yeah, Tom Brady's cock. Just literally just a picture of you with your inflatable penis standing on top of a V in Buffalo. Just a picture of that like full screen. Yeah, that's fair. Okay. All right. So if you go by the time this comes out,

if you go to Tom Brady car dot com, you will find out that it's Greg standing on top of a car dressed in a Tom Brady jersey with a very large inflatable penis. Anatomically correct. Is that what you've been telling people? Yeah, it was actual size. Okay. Good to know.

Might appear bigger in your view, nurse. Jesus Christ. How did we get here? I don't remember. Is this my best? Yeah, it feels like it feels like it is. Are you guys excited to go to the Patriots Panthers game? Oh, we should.

Yeah, we should announce that just in case we have any listeners in the area. That's a good point. For Gregory's birthday, since we're not going to be all together for the holidays, we've decided that we're going to go to the Panthers game. We're all going to meet down there. And we will be hanging out before and after the game in Charlotte area, I guess, somewhere.

We haven't figured that out yet. So if you are going to be in the area yourself, you can hit us up at the Dine-Z Hotline. Steve Brown, what's the number? Oh, I forgot. No fucking chance. Just look at it. I was looking at the like the vacant stair in your eyes right now

because you're fucking wiped. Yeah, I've had a go of it. That hair is amazing right now. It is 603-505-8043. Shoot us a text. If you're going to be in the area, you can meet us up. We'll give you some free swag or some shit. I don't know.

We'll find something. We'll play you for swag in bag toss. Oh, there you go. All right, Greg, I feel like you said you had a condition of us coming to visit you and you wanted to say it for the podcast. Oh, yes. This is my birthday present to me, Andy. From us?

No, just you. Oh, from me. Yeah. I might not come. On game day, tailgate. In the game. Post game. You got to wear the Dan D'Adorf jersey.

Oh, that's a good one. Post game. I got to wear the Dan D'Adorf. Post game and pregame. I'll give you one. You can wear a Patriots. How about this? You can wear a Patriots jersey into the game.

Yeah, he's letting you wear it in the stadium. But you got to walk around. You got to walk around pregame wearing your Dan D'Adorf shirt. I'll do a pregame. OK, OK, all right. As long as I remember to bring it. Well, if you don't. Yeah, you might as well stay in the fucking Airbnb

because I got the tickets. Boy, we'll see. You're you're a goddamn Luddite. I'm sure I can crack your password. I ain't worried about it. No, Greg's a Luddite. So he has paper tickets. That's even easier to steal.

Just don't tell him that. All right. Well, I think is there anything else you want to talk about, Steve? Did you have any other notes? How do you feel about the Stevens? How do you feel about them drafting Steven Jackson the first round, even though they had Marshall Falk? Oregon State, boy.

Should we put some predictions on record here for these next couple of couple of weeks? I think the Patriots will win these next couple of weeks in 2004. I think they might lose one more game. Oh, they do not, Steve. But I'll bet you on it, Steve. I bet they don't. Steve, don't do it.

Steve, why are you so poof? What we got going on here? I was in Savannah for a bachelor party. No, but I'm going to go work for three days. Whoa, whoa, whoa. How was that? Lauren's been sick, gusses in heat. Just dragging that pussy all over the ground everywhere.

We're in the papers, as you can see in the background there, dude. Oh, that's what that is. That's a diaper? We're in the diapers. Oh, no. Jumping at the pool. That's why you gotta go on mute. Oh, dude.

Can't imagine why you're so tired. How was the bachelor party? Did you guys get up to no good? Yeah, shit wasn't no good. So I'm so glad the entire. Yeah, that makes sense. What happens in Savannah stays in Savannah. Unless your dog's in heat.

As they always say. They do. I've heard that. Your hair looks, your hair looks good. Yeah. I'm going long hair, Steve, for a little bit. We'll see how it goes. I was being sarcastic.

I know you struggle with those things. So it's sick. No, I don't care. I'm going to go long hair, Steve, and see how it goes. I like that. Oh, dude. Dude, helmet. Oh, my God.

That's that's rough. Look, all right. Uh, this is devolving. Very quickly. So most shamelessly ugly person in the world. That's easy to be ugly when you have no shame. Yeah, that's fair. So what's next week, Steve?

Don't know. The bills, the little bills. Nobody in New England, though. Circles the wagons. Like the buffalo. Like the buffalo. So who bled so. True blood.

So back in back in town. True blood. So revenge game. Is he still on the bills? As they moved on and he's now at. No, we'll tease it. He's still on the bills. OK.

And he's going to do something embarrassing next week. Are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure that wasn't the game we were talking about? OK. No, I'm sure. OK. In Gillette.

Yep. OK. All right. Oh, I guess we'll we'll all find out together what that is next week. That's a long teaser. Yeah, the Patriots die as a podcast. So join us for that. Yeah.

We'll find out what the fuck Greg's talking about and see if he's actually correct. Yeah. I have no idea either. I thought you were talking about the thing that happened already that we talked about in in Buffalo, where he got strip sacked at the end of the game on the fourth down that Richard Seymour recovered for a touchdown.

But it sounds like that's not the case. So even more embarrassing. Because it's obviously not Buffalo, more embarrassing. But you're going to give it away if you keep guessing. All right. I'm not going to get it because I have no idea. All right. All right.

Well, we'll all figure it out next week. Oh, I'm sorry, Steve. Turn to you next week to see how much of a blubbering little bitch Greg is on the Patriots Dynasty podcast. See you later. See you later. Bye.