Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2005 Week 2: Patriots at Panthers

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

And you thought we were kidding about doing every game of the dynasty era! The whole gang is back together, reviewing the Patriots Super Bowl rematch against the Carolina Panthers. A word of caution though, this was recorded on 4/20, and the quality reflects that. Join the Brown brothers and Intern Tim as they revisit the first sign of cracks after the 2004 Super Bowl victory.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast, as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. All right, welcome back to the Page of Stines podcast.

You thought we weren't coming back for another like six months after that first episode, but we are back. And we're talking about week two of the 2005 Patriots season, much to my brother's chagrin. Speaking of which, we actually have one of the brothers on this week. Greg Brown. Nice to see you, bud. That's right. It's great to be back.

Yes. Back on that horse. Steve Brown, not here, but fuck him. Why is he not here, Andy? Because he's at his friend's house getting high. Yo, smoker weed, dude, six, four twenty, dude, four twenty. It is four twenty today. It is.

Yes. Hitler's birthday. Speaking of 20, we also have joining us was not scared away from last week. Tim the intern. Tim's here. Get it again. Going on. Hi.

You're really good on the mic. I love it. I'm also, you know, pretty high celebrated. Yeah, I got you. Well, I am, you know, got to partake in the holiday. Yeah. Hitler's birthday. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I think it is Hitler's birthday. And the rest in peace. Also set controversial. Beathiff. Beathiff. I believe it's also the anniversary of Columbine. Is it really?

Yeah. They did. Those guys really were scumbags. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's what. Besides the murdering part. Yeah.

On this day of days. Scumbags. And they were the first ones, dude, you know, if they had done that, no one would have known. It's a thing you could do. I mean, I get the feeling it probably would have happened and my guess is it probably wasn't the first one. It was just a. It's definitely not the first one I was going.

Yeah. Just. Whatever. First one. Should we start talking about gun control here? I haven't been on the pod in about eight months. We're going to start talking gun control in five minutes. Cut back.

Cut back. Steve. Speaking of. Yeah. We missed five minutes, right? Hey, buddy. What's up? It's up to you.

Disgusting slob. Also joining us apparently is Steve Brown. And Gus. And Gus the dog. And Gus the dog. There he is. She is the finally meet you. Yeah.

Same thing. Tim turn. Well, this is exactly how I. Steve, how are you doing, buddy? How are you feeling? I feel great. Yeah. Mm hmm.

To bless the stress, right? Anything you want to say to mom? Hey, mom, I love you. Every little thing is going to be all right. Yeah. That's right, Steve. Good job. All right.

Speaking of dreadlocks. Let's talk about this football game. That had some. I don't know how I tie them to dreadlocks. And we'll get there. Anyway, we're talking about the Carolina Panthers week two. 2005. Page is traveling to Charlotte, which we have been to.

And I think I'm still recovering from the. Undercooked burger that Steve served me at the end of that panthers game last time we were all together. That happened. In the same. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't remember that. I think I've got some sort of. Stomach issue because of it. Ever since I went to South Carolina, I've been shitting different. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was that burger. Yeah. Oh, we ran out of pro payments.

Yeah. It's the burger. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of. The, this is probably going to be a rage game for me just to prepare you boys.

All right. First and foremost. Is it raster? Is it announcers? The first and foremost. We'll get there. Okay. My first comment of the game.

Well, we even started before that. The recording of this game. Didn't start until nine minutes into the first quarter. I was very upset about. So that's kind of a pain in the ass. Started off on the wrong foot. And then the first thing I hear is Dan Deardorf. Danny D.

On the boy. Him and Dick Emberg just. How many, how long we got left of him? Like, when did he retire? Oh, too long. Too long. Steve Stat check. Your stat check.

All right. I'm the intern. I'll take it. Yeah. That's right. Right. Cause I can now go to Tim. Yeah.

Yeah. I do try to work around here. I don't know if it's hard. There we go. Somebody has Tim turn work. Dude, we should get chat GBT dance. These things for us. That's a great idea.

Yeah. Probably more accurate than the stuff Greg came back with. Oh, he did. He retired after pictures game too. Interesting. Yeah. Oh, we got a long time, boys. 2014 is what I'm seeing here.

Man. So basically the right, the life of this podcast. Yeah. Cause we're not, are we going? Yeah. What is it intended until we get the Troy Brown or the, if we go until Brady leaves one or the other, whichever comes first?

Yeah. Okay. My guess. It's a good point. We would always say if we get Troy Brown, it's over, right? That's where you wrap it up. I mean, that's the, I don't know if we said it's over. It's just like life has peaked.

Yeah. It's not, it's definitely not going to get better than that. Right. I'm putting into my resignation at that point. Me too. Uh, so, yeah. So, uh, Dan Deardorf is the first thing you heard on this, um, this game. So if you are like me and you don't like listening to Dan Deardorf,

uh, skip it. Um, if you are like me and you, uh, don't like watching games where Brady doesn't play very well, skip it. Uh, if you're like me, if you're like Steve and Greg and you don't like watching the pages loose, you can probably skip this game. Uh, so what I'm saying is, uh, we watch this because we do a podcast about every

game on the page of Dynasty. I would not recommend it. And Tim, I think it's probably the only one that did watch this game. Steve, did you watch this game? No. You said to skip it. Just now. Yeah.

Yeah. I should tell you everything you need to know. Yeah. No, you are in mid-season forms. Steve, I appreciate it. Did you see me go and get my headphones upstairs? I was like, I can't hear. I can't hear Andy. Can you talk so low?

And I was like, I can't turn the volume up on the computer. Yeah, it was just the volume on the computer. If you showed up on time, Steve. Oh my gosh. I told you, Thursdays are a bad day for me. Good. An ad for 20 on top of that. Right.

You want me to be on time on for 20? Come on. It would almost be offensive to show up on time. That's what I would say. I showed up early. Tim, what are you doing, dude? You got a lot to learn about this. I'm going to try hard and it's embarrassing.

Are you eating during the middle of it too? Greg loves to do that. Well, we used to do it during dinner time. And it's like, what am I going to do? I can either not show up or I could eat on the pod. Those are the two options. Hey, I'm not going to lie. I was laughing a lot during those times.

That's right. It was all good. It was for good content. One of the only reviews we got was... I like the podcast except for when Greg eats. I don't care what you answer. They lied. Whoever they were, they got them.

Yeah. It was Tim because he likes to know that they would talk about it and Greg would eat all the time if he did it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Kelly comes in, serves dinner. Now I know what it looked like. Yeah.

Kelly comes in over right shoulder. Yes. Ever since we had that kid, now it's just like eating crumbs and scraps off the floor, you know? That's how you like it though, right, Greg? Yeah. Leftover breast milk. Have you tried it, Andy?

Of course. Have you tried the breast milk, Andy? Yeah, of course. What did you think? It was good. Not for me. We spent from gun control to drink the breast milk. We're hitting everything on the 425 today.

Everything about this game. Except for the game, yeah. Speaking of... All right. Here's the final score, Andy. Speaking of big boobs, let's talk about... Big old... Final score, 27-17, Caroline.

A loss, the fifth loss in 38 games. Yeah, a little. This is a rare occurrence here at the Patriots losing. Yeah, because they actually at the beginning of the game showed how both teams had been going in opposite directions since their matchup in the Super Bowl. The Patriots since then had gone 15-2 and the Panthers had gone 7-10.

With the Patriots not losing at home since then. Didn't the Panthers give them a game at the end of the season when it didn't mean anything? No. They played a pre-season game this season before that and it was kind of chippy. Yeah. I think I wrote this here somewhere.

This was an easy team to hate, I thought. And I'm probably going to get some pushback on some of this. I disagree. Yeah, I think they're sick. But like Steve Smith, I don't like him. I know you boys may have a different opinion, but he's just kind of a dickhead. I'm sure he's one of those Rodney Harrison types

where he's on your team. But he's not, so fuck him. This he is. No, but he's not on our team. This is cool. Steve's contributions. I love this, but I'm very fluent in Andy. I might just mute Steve because he's not going to fix that.

He's not going to give a lot of fuck. Fine. He won't even know. Also, Ricky Perle on this team, not even Shanahan with the whole, again, well, this is the beginning of the dynasty at the beginning of the 2001 Super Bowl when he's on the fucking Rams. And he's the one that caught the tying touchdown

in the Rams football and then did the same thing in the Carolina Super Bowl, if you remember. I'm team Andy on this one. But that doesn't make him hateable, is that he made good plays against your team. Not for you, baby, because you're not a real fan. He was also the guy that said you're about to witness the new dynasty, right?

In the Rams Super Bowl. He said that? Yeah, that was him. That's why I was a hater. Because they had won the season before. Wow, I didn't think he's like a third receiver to behind. And he was like the dynasty is born tonight. I think it's what it was.

Yeah, yeah. But he did like when it came to those games he put up, like in this year, he was going off. He showed up. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was the only one that did. But Steve Smith did nothing in this game. We talked a bunch of shit beforehand.

And Rodney Harrison had some words about like, yeah, fucking Steve Smith had 34 reception years or something. Okay. Yeah. That's what he said in that Super Bowl after the teams got introduced, he turned to a camera and said, tonight a dynasty is born, baby. And he was not wrong.

He was just, he had the wrong team. Yeah. Exactly. Ricky Pearl. Great all-time nickname from Berman too. What was it? You know, it would always be like Ricky Pearl, shampoos his way for a first down.

That's right. Oh yeah. I love that. I mean, that's old school. Anybody under the age of 40 won't get that, but that's cool. Yeah. Just like a lot of Chris Berman is. Andre, dad, moon rising.

Nobody knows that. Troy Brown, Bander and out. I don't even understand. I don't get that one. Yeah. We looked it up once. We did. It's like a 50s like swing band or some bullshit.

Yeah. Yeah. Also on this team, Marla McCree, you may recognize that name, but not from the Panthers. Anybody? Oh, Chargers, right? Yeah.

He's the one that intercepts the ball. Yeah. And then Troy Brown stripped it. Yeah. Our boy did. He's here too. Also, speaking of hate, he hate me. Rod Smart.

Yeah. Smart baby. Returning kicks. Can't hate Rod Smart though. Yeah. In fact, well, he kind of encourages the hate. Yeah, so we're just throwing in there just for the name. When he said he hates me, he's referring to Andy.

Yeah. Because Andy hates everything. Exactly. Imagine if the NFL let players customize the back of their jerseys. How would that be? Oh man. Otrosinko.

He like legally changed his name to get that. Yeah. Which is amazing. Same with meta world peace, but imagine if they could just do anything without changing their name to something stupid. Yeah, that's not fun. They can't even figure out what it catches.

But let's see. Also, I am also just going to throw this in there because I'm on a roll. I hate Jake DeLome in this game. Why? Because he hates Eli Manning. Because he looks like him? No.

He played like Eli Manning where he was just like throwing ducks and his wide receivers are bailing about the entire game. And the fucking D&D adorbs of the world are like slaughtering all over it. Like, oh, look at this great throw. He threw a back shoulder. Like, no, he didn't. He just fucking threw a duck off his back foot because he

couldn't be fucked to like actually step into a hit. And now all of a sudden, like it was such a bad throw that the receive was able to make the recovery better than the defensive back. You know, bullshit. He did a bad game. His stat line for this game is pretty horrific. I think we 11.

What is it? 11 of 26 for 154 yards. No touchdowns in an interception. Yeah. 46.0 QB rating. And let's talk about that interception. It will be on the website. Yeah.

I did watch the highlights and I'm going to need you guys to explain what happened. So from my vantage point of just seeing it once, it looked like the worst interception I've ever seen. So the commentators kind of pointed out that whoever was a running back kind of like went out in the flat and sat there and Jake DeLome spent like 45 minutes in the pocket, like scrambling and looking for somebody.

And then right about to get hit. He just kind of like side armed it to where he thought the running back used to be. But like two seconds before the running back had turned up field and decided to like go down the sideline. And but it literally looked like he threw it directly to Mike Vrable hit him between the five and the zero with no one within 10 yards of them except for another Patriot.

Yeah. It was really bad. To the point where you're like, why is Mike Vrable even there? Right. Yeah. He looks like he's just covering 10 yards of grass. It's like why? On the sideline.

Yeah. It's not good. Yeah. So Vrable was able to walk it in for a touchdown. This was literally the play after the Patriots had scored a touchdown to bring it within 10. So now it's a three point game because the Patriots scored two touchdowns and 27 seconds.

I think it was. Yeah. 27 seconds. Now it's a three point game. All right. I'm watching the highlights now. You were doing a great Greg impression, Steve. I gotta say.

If all you need to do now is watch the highlights of the wrong game and you'll have nailed it. That only happened once. Once is enough, Greg. I don't know. I might have to back check that. That's true. That is a good chance.

But I will say going back to Deodoros, I want to close this. Do we have any? I got some clips. I know you got audio clips. He's got receipts. It was. It was a roller coaster for me because I'm going to,

I'm going to show you my notes real quick. And oh Jesus. So my first note is, oh, fuck it's Deodoros. And the second note is, okay, I like Deodoros now. And then the third one is never minding him again. So here's, here's the, okay, I like Deodoros. Okay. This is one.

They didn't want him to go anywhere. Resigned. Now he gets to really go back to his natural position. This is a guy coming in today. 481 career receptions. And this guy, his picture ought to be next to the word professional. When you talk about a professional player doing it the right way. Well, look at that.

It's a friend of Troy Brown is a friend of mine, right? Okay. Sure. And then what happens? Oh, I didn't take long, but I don't even remember what it was, but I just fucking hate him for it, whatever this is. So let's listen. Hey, his return is described initially as questionable.

Back to you. Okay. Thank you, Armin. I think Randall Gay is on his way to get some Ben Gay. We, we hope that's all it needs. That's exactly right. So Randall Gay literally had, they just finished saying he had to get his shoe cut off of his foot and they're literally showing a picture of him getting

like driven into the locker room on a back of a cart. And he's has to pull out the fucking Ben Gay joke. That's tough. That is tough. And I'm starting to realize what it is about him that bothers me. But is it not just the dad jokes, but it's the, he's just like so sanctimonious. Like every time there's a penalty, he get, it's like a direct assault to his

sensibilities. Like, I can't believe Rodney Harrison would tackle him so hard after the play and he should know better than that. It's like, like he's trying to be these, these guys' father. I'm like, I guarantee you're dandy or if you were fucking offensive linemen, I guarantee you have held somebody in your fucking life. Get over yourself. You sanctimonious prick.

Yeah, that's why it's a roller coaster. So I almost wore his jersey after the Troy Brown comment to this, but I didn't. And then you ripped it off and discussed. Yeah. When you heard the Ben Gay joke. Yeah, right after he went and spit on it. Yeah.

Things is covered in spit. Speaking of Steve Smith. What was that injury? That's what we need to know. Like, was it like a season? How long was he out? Yeah. Tim.

It wasn't a good injury. Yeah. I don't know if he was out for the season. I think he may have came back. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, did not look good. But also they show that and then they went to the arm and contain on the

lines, um, like later on the game and they're like, uh, his, his return is, is being, um, like the Patriots saying his return is questionable and fucking questionable. Man can even walk off the field. He had to have his shoe cut off. But yeah, questionable. Yeah. He played five games in a 2005.

So he came back later. He'll come back eventually. Yeah. That's still like half your season, if not more. Yeah. I mean, this whole, like the defensive backfields already like torn to bits after, you know, Dan Duthorpe made a big, uh, stink about, uh, Troy Brown coming back, being able to play his natural position of wide receiver.

Um, I believe he led the team with receiving arts in this game. Um, but he, uh, later on the game, when the game went down and talking about how to actually come back and play defensive back because, uh, Tyrone pool is hurt. Um, which I think we talked about last week, Tim and I, and then Chad Scott was another defensive back. Didn't make the trip. Uh, Randall Gay goes down. So now we have Dwayne Starks in and also somebody named Gus.

Never heard of that. Yeah. There was a guest. Yeah. I haven't heard of any of those three players. Chad Scott. Dwayne Starks. Chad Scott.

Yeah. Dwayne Starks for a long time. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Chad Scott. Was Dwayne Starks on Baltimore? Yeah. Angles.

No, he was, uh, uh, he was with the Ravens and then he went to, uh, the Cardinals for a few years in soccer and then demanded a trade and be traded for him in the off season for a place. Ty was pretty good on the, on the Ravens, right? Ravens. Yeah. He was a high traffic. Yeah.

He returned to touchdown, uh, an interception for a touchdown. And he was like, Oh, I started watching the Patriots. Well, no, it's not Ty Law. Okay. But yeah, I literally, after a play after tackle, just wrote who the fuck is Gus Scott? Cause I don't know. Love the name though. That's Scott Chad Scott.

Who gives a hoot? Dwayne Stark. The, um, the Carolina Panthers who are probably the only team still even in 2005 lining up with three players in the backfield, two running backs in a, um, a tight end on some plays, decided to go five wide and start slinging it once they saw like who was actually in the Patriots defensive backfield. Um, didn't work. Only completed 11 passes, which is a testament to, uh, Bill Belichick, I would say, um, or

I thought you got a shit on Dalom right there. Mr. Dalom hater. I already did that. Um, like he was real bad in this game. Oh, like real bad. Like it, it, I actually wrote at one point and it looks like he's trying to throw an interception like to spite somebody's like a coach or something. Cause even when he did throw his, his interception, they, they showed, uh, like on the replay,

him like drawing at the head coach, John Fox, like just screaming at him. Like, bro, you just literally threw the easiest interception I've ever seen. You're the one getting angry about it. And there should have been like four or five more. Yeah. He had, well, he had one called back, uh, because of a penalty. Wayne Starks, like having an interception, looking really good right off the bat. Oh, yeah.

And, um, okay. And Sante Samuel will drop one that like hit him, you know, basically in the face mask. That doesn't seem like a thing he would do. Dude, I started having a stroke. I was so pissed. I was like, that's the exact one that you will drop five years from now. Mm hmm. Look, very so.

But this one was always hated error repeaters, you know? Well, we will see that error get repeated. So yeah, it should have been like at least three interceptions, if not like four or five. It was bad. Um, but this is a decent Panthers team. Yes. They're 11 and five. Um, they, they, they would have been good the year before they got decimated by injury.

They lost to Smith for a long time. And, uh, I think there was someone else on decent. They're insurable two years ago. Yeah. Yeah. And they, yeah, but they would go to the NFC championship in this, this year. That's pretty good season. It's not bad.

Um, and they're, they had a pretty good, uh, a great defense actually. Uh, they were third in yards and fifth in points against, uh, Julius peppers. Yeah. Jenkins. And it was, yeah, it was a lot about this defensive line, which you saw in this game because, uh, the pages offense was just nothing but like quick passes and like outside zone runs. It didn't work. Well, they have that.

We have to comment on the first round on the first drive. Yeah. Um, was that the first draft? Yeah. Yeah. Well, the first time we saw. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. Oh, you're good. God damn you too. Um, but yeah. So Troy Brown gets, uh, like a third and two just like goes out into the flat and catches

a ball and just like takes off a second one yard down the field, which I believe is his second longest play from scrimmage, at least up until this probably ever. Yeah. That's on the, uh, Berman highlights on the sports center, whatever it was. It should be. It is. I think the long highlight. Yeah.

The longest one was, uh, that overtime one. Yeah. Miami. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the ADR bomb. Yeah.

Oh, but this was all Troy Brown. Just like, Well, what, you know, it was, uh, the, the quarterback ran into the safety. Well, I was wide open. He was supposed to cover him. Yeah. Yeah. And he was wide open.

Troy Brown just. And it's like, it's almost like one of those like fat guys gets their hands on the ball that he's like looking around. It's like, someone going to tackle me or like, are we doing this? Are we going all the way with this 34 year old Troy Brown at this? Yeah. Oh yeah. That's not his game at this point, but he's going to give it a go.

His legs ran out at the end, but he's in 71 yards. Yeah. Tackle like inside the five. Yeah. Yeah. So not, not a bad little play. Uh, probably I would say the play of the game, um, for the Patriots. Um, if you're, see that, or the, uh, pick six by my freeble, I think those are one

and one. Um, Andy, can I, can I make you hate Steve Smith a little more? You can try. Okay. Uh, so these are the comments before the game. Um, talking about the Tyrone pool thing. Oh yeah. That, um, Steve Smith and Patriots quarterback, Karen pool didn't get along nearly two years

later for at least one of the players. This hasn't changed a bit. Smith to engage in a shoving map of pool during the first quarter of the game blasted pool on serious NFL radio Monday. There's a lot of people I have respect for since that Tyrone pool, he's not one of them. He's like Nike and I'm like Reebok. I don't talk to him. I got nothing to say to him.

Wait. So Tyrone pool is Nike and Steve Smith is Reebok, which is a lesser brand than Nike. Oh, no. Yeah. That's really weird. Yeah. With that, there's Steve Smith. Maybe that's an age.

Well, I think you kind of want to be, maybe it's just like we don't mix well, you know, like Coca-Cola and Pepsi, not necessarily commenting on one better than the other. But. But what is now it's a strange analogy. Either way you spin it. I don't think I have to call myself Nike. Yeah. No, it says he's like Nike and I'm like Reebok.

That's also like not a great analogy. Yeah. Terrible analogy. Two different brands today. Those brands don't talk. Is that they're not like each other? Like that's not. I don't talk to him.

I got nothing to say to him. He's the way you go with that. The first part was the most ridiculous though. A lot of people I respect. He's not one of them. Yeah. That's fight. Bullshit on that one.

Yeah. He continues. So it says Smith's vitriol stems from the Super Bowl altercation after which Smith alleges who will spat on him in the Super Bowl first play. He kind of jams me and he busts my lip. Smith said, so I said, okay, you're trying to get physical. Next play he comes and I stiff arm him to the ground. So it was a physical match and he starts calling me names.

He's a Christian and he wasn't cursing at me, but he was just calling me some names that in my book was cussing still. So I said, look here dog, you're going to shut up and I'm going to make you shut up. I was hot. I was very hot. Geez. Okay. I didn't read this whole thing before.

This is ridiculous. The radio host Shannon Sharp asked Smith if pool could ever be friends. Smith replied, nah, then offered a biting challenge. I'm going to whoop his ass on the field. Smith said, that's all you got to say. Yeah, he didn't. That's a lot to say. Wow.

That's a lot of words to get 34 whole receiving yards in a game. Grats. He did also try to start a fight with something Samuel because the Panthers first touchdown, which it's going to be a segment all of its own. But basically the longest lucky track tries a couple of, you know, it gets a couple of deep passes like docs that get caught. And then there's defensive pass interference in the end zone. And then there is a run by fuck his name.

It's on foster or was it Steven? Steven Davis scored. Yeah. They were both pretty effective in that game. Yeah. It's like gets stuffed at the goal line and then tries to reach the ball over, but it comes out before it goes over the goal line. So there's like a scuffle to see who gets the ball.

And Steve Smith comes in like way late and just grabs a Sunday Samuel, just chucks him off the pile, which, you know, is a penalty, but you know, whatever. It's a chippy game. Then Sunday Samuel just gets like right up in his face. And then like all the big Panthers, like all the offensive linemen come over and start like getting into Sunday Samuel's face. But nobody's on except for Samuel. And it was just like typical Steve Smith bullshit.

He's starting shit. Just starting shit. Yeah. Who do you think he is? Huh? Rodney Harrison? Dick. Yeah.

Part of his job. Dick. So in that touchdown that he scored that first one, even Davis, that I found a lot of stuff in the global about that. So that started, I guess the previous year, that's when Belichick had commissioned the league to get a goal line camera. Yeah. So.

Interesting. It wasn't that the quote about like starting a bake sale or something? Because the league was like, oh, we don't want to invest in that. Yeah. That's exactly it. It's like, oh, we don't want to spend the money. Yeah. I got a quote from Jeffrey Laurie, the equal owner.

I think it's inevitable, Laurie, that my understanding is it's being studied further from a technical viewpoint because I think we can, I think when we do it, we want it to be done right. We want to find most foolproof and efficient way to get it done. Yeah. A lot of it was like just complaining about money. Like there's no way that we'd be able to do this. Right.

It's crazy. Typical. Yeah. Bullshit. Like you guys need a billion a year. You can tell me you can't find a way to put a camera into a little plastic stick. And now they use it like at least once a game. Like that camera angle.

Right. They like putting in the first down sticks now. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Well, they put, no, they put those pile on cameras on the first down like markers. Because there's got extra of them. They have so many that they can put them on the first down markers and also the ends

up. But they should have technology that it's like a chip in the ball. They do. Or cameras. There are chips in the ball, but they, they're not accurate enough to know exactly where the ball is. And you also, you don't know. Soccer does it.

But there's also the point idea of your need to being down and where is your knee being down when the ball is in a certain spot? Like you just don't know. You can still figure that out. Maybe. For sure. Time to use the arguments I've had. Steve, what in God's name are you doing right now?

I'm petting Gus. Oh, look, thank you. You're like jerking off on camera too. He just like zoomed in close on his chest and it's like arms just shaking. He's like grinning. I'm so good. Mom skipped this part. Yeah.

So, yeah, so this is, this is an article from Nick Capardo. There's a reason there aren't goal line cameras. I guess this is the Atlanta Falcons president. He says the cost would be overwhelming. You have to have, have a second production of the game to pull it off. All the feeds right now are generated from televisions, capture the shots and get them produced to a monitor and the officials on the field. So it would just be extremely expensive.

That's stupid. Yellow first downline everywhere. What he's like, it just sounds so dumb. Is that guy still alive? Andy, you should tweet that at him. Cool. I don't know if I ever said that. His name is, his name is Rich.

No, no, his name is Rich McKay. He's the, uh, he was Atlanta Falcons president. Atlanta Falcons president. Hey, Rich, remember this take you dumb bitch. We got it now. So what do you have to say for that? Yeah. You wouldn't dare and Deardorff can burn in hell.

I don't think Danny or his dad yet, but that's cool. Yeah. Well, when they do die, I'm assuming this guy is also alive. That's why you're tweeting at him. All right. Don't do it if he's dead. No. Nice.

I'll just do it from your spitting on crazy. Andy, come on. You can't do that. We'll do it from Tim's account. It's fine. There you go. First of all, I think. But yeah, as good as, um, this, uh, the defensive game plan

was that held this, uh, on paper, a good offense. Actually, no, they were a good offense. Um, they held them to minimal yardage. They couldn't stop them scoring because the pages couldn't stop and turn the ball over or, um, tackling on part returns. Steve Smith was taking some of these. So he hate me was taking some of them as well. Um, and the Patriots, uh, I was surprised when, uh, kickoffs

were tackled inside the 30. Um, because that was a pretty constant in this game. And then punt returns were even worse giving up. I gave up like a 70 yard punt return in the, uh, like right before the half, which turned it into a 10 point game going into 10, um, 10 point deficit. And, um, that was actually some more foreshadowing though, believe it or not, because on the play, um, it would have been

a touchdown, except the punt returner was chased down by none other than Ben Watson. You rookie this year? Was that no second year? But yeah, it's kind of his rookie year because he got hurt like first play of the first game last season, 2004. He didn't play at all. Um, but yeah, ran down the, the punt returner, um, instead of

giving up and tackled it to 10, but didn't have to do this for a touchdown. So there's two plays like that in this game. Mm hmm. Yes. Still not going to watch it. Neither, neither of them are good. Both plays will be on the website.

Um, but, uh, the one set that I found interesting after, after that touchdown was scored and the page, Patriots just like ran out the clock to end the half. Um, in 2005, since 2001, the Patriots are seven and 11 when trailing at the half, um, which, you know, the, you don't often see like a Patriots losing record in any kind of like statistical category anymore like that. Um, and I'm pretty sure now if we look that up, the Patriots

would still have a winning record when trailing at half. Um, but seven and 11 is not great. And then they lose this one. So seven and 12 when trailing at half. Yeah. It was only 18 games in four years. You know, I was just trying out the half that often you're winning a shitload.

Yeah. It's a small sample size relatively. And the last one was, um, I think the last game they lost the season before at Pittsburgh where they got their, their doors blown off. Um, Ty Law's final game as a Patriot. Rest in peace. He's not dead either.

In case you're worried. Hey man. Um, Let's see who else is on this. Uh, Yeah, there were, there were many good. Um, Yeah, I think that was most of it.

Uh, the one thing I did have some, uh, kind of other notes, um, Around the game, just kind of tell you like the timeframe when this is happening. Um, some CVS, I think it was, and they were promoting heavily two shows. One was the premiere season, the series premiere of how I met your mother, which just ended like last year, actually like 40 something seasons.

Um, so that hadn't started yet. And also they were pushing a, um, 60 minutes episode where they had Ricky Williams on because he is back in the NFL because he owes the dolphins $8 million for bailing on them the season before. Speaking of 420. Exactly. So I thought it might be a good little, uh,

rabbit holes that go down. Um, but, uh, so they played a couple of clips. Um, well, here's, here's the, I'll put this in here. So you can hear it. Um, a whole bunch of Ricky Williams stuff. Uh, so this is them talking about. Welcome back. Great to have the MetLife blimp providing today's aerial

coverage of all the football action. Snoopy one at the controls. This is the situation last week where Carolina was. Snoopy one at the controls. Andy Brown at the controls. Yeah. As always. Once again goes head to head with dolphins running back.

Ricky Williams about his reasons for returning to the NFL. How broke are you? I have no idea. What do you mean you have no idea? Well, the way I live my life is if I have, if I have a place to stay and I have food on the table, then I'm not broke. His agent is trying to get him a new contract hoping to

erase the $8 million debt, but you can bet that Ricky would owe millions more if he walked off again, or if he failed another drug test. You still smoking marijuana occasionally? No, I can't do that anymore. I get tested twice a week. Twice a week? Twice a week.

Do you miss it? No. His teammates and his fans for the most part have welcomed him back. Last year, Williams had told us he saw no need to apologize to them for ruining their season. But when he returned, he was quick to change his mind. I was being more understanding of their, of their point of view and not, and not being so selfish.

That's coming up tonight on 60 Minutes. Thanks for joining us here. What a stoner. Yeah, I love it. He's the man. He is. Also, did you, uh, that, that voice didn't sound like wasn't what I was expecting to see

coming out of Ricky Williams. Yeah. It's very like, I guess pretty well documented, right? That he has a weird voice. Yeah. Got the Mike Tyson thing going. That's like almost peak Ricky Williams there. When he returns to the dolphins to be like, I don't give a shit.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just here so I don't get fine, basically. Yeah. He plays in the trail for a March on Lynch for sure. Yeah. Um, dude, there's a great quote that I pulled out because I sound about weird.

Obviously for twice, I was looking up stone or football players and he's top of the list. There's a quote, he said, right when he quit, you know, four, he said, I didn't quit football because I failed the drug test. I failed the drug test because I was ready to quit football. Like boy, boy. Dude. Speaking truths.

Right. Legend. Yeah. He definitely said that. And it is like, hi, Brandon. He was like fucking nailed it. He's like, I got one guys. How high was he at that point?

I had some quotes because I actually found the transcript of that, um, that 60 minutes episode. And so they, they, it was, um, you know, the talk, him talking about, you know, well, the way I live my life is that if I have a place to stay and have food on the table, I'm not broke. And so Wallace came back and said, but I understand you're down to 230,000 bucks. And Williams is like, I really couldn't tell you how much I

have. And Wallace is like, doesn't Lee Steinberg your agent tell you about that? He goes, no, I don't talk to Lee about money. And Wallace is like, you don't talk to your agent about money. What do you talk to your agent about? Talk about like, talk a little philosophy. He always sends me books.

It's a different kind of relationship. That's fucking amazing. I love it. Was he, he's not the one that had the crazy contract, right? The, the Terrell Davis contract. Was he, I think it was him. Yeah. He signed with that new agency.

It was his first agent himself, I feel like. No, it was like some, it was like some rapper. Exactly. Yeah. Agency. And he was like one of their first clients. And he, he had all of his like incentives. Like his whole contract was like incentive based.

And it was like based off Terrell Davis is like. Back to back MVP seasons. So it was like, you could be the best player in the league or not make any money. It's like. Back to the P. Yeah. That's ridiculous. How did he, he was also the one that,

how does he owe money? That's what I don't understand. For breaking his contract. Yeah. That's stupid. Stupid contract. Anyways. Apparently Jim Haslett is coach at the saints.

He said, in 2001, Ricky came in and he said, he was going to retire and play baseball. I don't know if we talked him out of it. We told him he wasn't very good at baseball. He wasn't very good at baseball. And maybe that did it. Your best player,

your first round graphic comes in the office. He's like, I'm going to play baseball. I'm like, no, you suck at baseball. He's like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You're right. He was drafted in 1995. He was drafted in the amateur draft out of high school by the

Philadelphia Phillies, signed a contract with the team for with a $50,000 signing bonus. During his collegiate career, he played four seasons within the Phillies farm system. He's going to be first base on class A and outfielder. Really in 170 games and finished career of the 211 banning average, four home runs and 46 stolen bases. I mean, he's Manny.

Yeah. He is Manny playing football. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good wildly talented, but just a little out there, dude.

Yeah. Doesn't give a shit. Yeah. I love it. Also, Williams, this is when he like left football in 04. He said, Williams told the paper he'd been smoking marijuana while traveling

with Lenny Kravitz on his tour through Europe. At least he's enjoying himself. He did. He had a great time. That sounds way better than playing football. Yeah. What an 04 thing to do too. Smoking weed with Lenny Kravitz.

There you go. Who is Williams hero, if any, any guesses? Bob Marley. I've heard of him. I've heard of him. I've heard of him. I've heard of him. I've heard of him.

I've heard of him. I've heard of him. I've heard of him. Yeah. And they. Yeah. Inspired Williams to wear dreadlocks for years. He and his hero have something else in common.

He smoked a lot of marijuana. Yeah. I have done the same. Did you now? That is our drug test today. One of a author's. He did. Williams didn't know so.

He's got a lifestyle brand now called Heisman. We're like, Oh, like highs men play on highs men. Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, I get it. Yeah. Spark greatness. All right, what else we got? We power ranking or we doing what do you got for a list, Tim? Oh, I'm just I literally just Google Patriots players weed. That's what I did too. So we probably get the same list. Do they have to be arrested? I want to do like an arrest one. I think that's better. It just shows that they're badass. Yeah, except for people you think that would

smoke weed. But but wait, what's the difference between the power ranking and the Mount Rushmore? Mount Rushmore had more than four. Yes. Okay, cool. I need to clarify. So I think number one has to be Kevin Falker. Because he got arrested at a Lil Wayne concert for in Louisiana in Louisiana and Lil Wayne's hometown. It was he had four marijuana cigarettes in his possession on his way to see Lil Wayne at the Lafayette Cajun Dome. Oh, man, while he was playing for the Patriots. Yeah. Really? I don't remember hearing about that. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. And they didn't even like charge him. Yeah. Yeah. We asked him

about it when he was on. He's like, yeah, you know, it should happen. Yeah. It's the most it's the most harmless crime I think I could ever think up is having a couple joints in your pocket going to a little Wayne concert. Like, give me a break. I feel like in the Cajun Dome. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. You got to make sure you do have something on. I'd be more surprised if he didn't have anything on. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about he was a nerd? Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah. Give me another one. All right. Who else? Chandler Jones. Chandler Jones. That's a good one, too. Wasn't that? Was that weird, though? Well, he but his freakout

was on as it says, quote, smoke, smoking synthetic marijuana. Yeah. Yeah. But he's definitely definitely played. And well, then that's the NFL's fault is he's it's probably the only reason he's doing that is because he can't smoke. He's probably getting some from a gas station, dude. Yeah. The monkey or something. Yeah. Dude, that shit's crazy, too. It's no joke. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, dude. I had a little story time. I used to work at Taco Bell and some interesting characters come through that place. There was a guy that smoked that stuff in my town and kidnapped his sister in a van high on K2. Yeah. Pretty interesting stuff. Yeah. Why would you

could have your sister? Why'd she be like, yeah, dude? I don't know. It was it was a really weird. This guy was like 43. And he had the nicest Jordan every time. And I was like, dude, why are you wearing those to work? Like would you work with this guy? Is your coworker? Yeah, I worked with him. Yeah. Oh, I was in high school. No, no. This was a guy I worked with. He was like 40 something and he wouldn't wear like non flip shoes. It's just a while. Jordan. Yeah, dude. Hey, too, man. Yeah. It was it. It was bad shit. We used to do. We used to have a little bit that we do with our friends that we'd we'd make sure you put your seatbelt on before you do

it. You had to buckle up and everybody would just, you know, mind buckling up and then you'd smoke it. It was it was not good. It doesn't sound like it. Yeah. Buckle it. Yeah. We did it for like two weeks and we did it like every other day for two weeks and then never again. I did it once. No, it was bad. And it was called monkey. I don't know what like that was just the brand we had to be like, you want to get monkey? Nothing about that. Not like what I want to do. Yeah, it was it was terrible. I don't know why it took you two weeks to get to that point. Well, it's kind of it was the bit was more fun than doing the actual thing.

Like, yo, you got a seatbelt on, dude. That might be how we start the podcast from now. Yeah. Everybody buckle up. Everybody buckle it off one. Yeah. Oh, boy. So it shows up, right? Well, let's let's finish Chandler first, right? OK, yeah, you go. So what exactly happens? He shows up at a police station in just his underwear. Is that correct? Yeah. And he he like goes to the back and like tries to get in the door. Well, he like went on his knees and put his hands behind his head, like giving himself up. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Jesus. And they were like, what are you doing, dude? And I think they just took him to the hospital.

Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Imagine that cop who's like, holy shit, this is Chandler Jones. Yeah. No one's going to believe me. Sure. Yeah. Chandler Jones showed up at the police station, half naked and like gave himself up high on high as shit on something. Yeah. OK. This is this from the Daily Mail. It says, Jones was seen scurrying towards the office. Scurrying. Suddenly, without warning, Jones is said to have dropped those knees, interlocked the fingers and laid down. Honestly, it appeared as if he was actively praying or worshiping one officer described. Oh, my God. Boy, I bet his physique.

That's wild. That man is a tall glass of milk. He's stiff as a board. This is like in his prime, too, when he was like really good. Oh, yeah. He was right before his big contract because they treated him not soon after. And he didn't get in trouble, right? I don't think so. No. Just showed up and practiced the next day, like everything was fine. Wasn't there something with like a high tower or something on like chat roulette and he was just like naked with a couple of women? Was that who? It was. No, it was Brandon Spikes and he had a

fucking coke can of a penis. Just an absolute. Yeah. Yeah. Pages, linebackers built different. Uh-huh. Pellchecks saw that video like definitely drafted him. Yeah. He was already the Patriots. No, I think it was college, if I remember correct. Either way. Because I remember like highlights coming out and Greg was like, Greg, Steve, Steve, look at our new linebacker, like our biggest dick is like this video.

Did not do that. Did not do that. I mean, I saw the video. Yes. Multiple times. Yes. All right. Who's next? Aaron. Notice we'd smoke there. Yeah, he's one of the less fun ones.

Yeah, he's sad. He's a sad story. Yeah. Well, I mean, like when he was smoking, probably not a cool. Yeah, he's probably pretty chill here. Yeah, probably not killing people. Yeah, I feel like if yeah, he isn't like smoking a blunt and going out and killing people. How about this hot take? If if he if the NFL allowed weed and didn't test for it,

Aaron Hernandez wouldn't have done what he did. That's a hot. That's a fireflame state. Yeah, that's a quarter of a take. Oh, good God. You know, I want to edit that one out. Wait, how high? Yeah, how high is Andy, right? You're the only one.

Hi here, Andy. Jesus Christ. This is why I don't bother. I'm just always like. Yeah, right. He's going to watch the ancient aliens after this. I'm not even like on another planet. Acknowledge that take. Well, the NBA just stopped.

The NBA just stopped drug testing for weed, Andy. So that means we probably saved at least like three mass killers. Just think all the lives that have been saved. Talked to talk to me in 30 years. Yeah, lifesaver. All right, who's the NFL? I'll be waiting. Drush Gordon, Duran Harman.

Did you hear about this one? No, no, I don't remember. But I don't remember it either, but he got caught with 58 grams of weed trying to get into Costa Rica. Oh, yeah. That's right. Do you think there's a lot of weed? It's a lot of weed. Yeah. Yeah, that's like borderline more than you need for a vacation.

Yeah. We were probably doing that after the super after the Super Bowl or something for two weeks. Well, how, how long he's probably going to monkey it, you know, he wanted to stay on a little bit of monkey. He would have been fine. We would have to strap in. Hot take. Duran Harman never would have done that if he had the most.

Oh, yeah, I vaguely remember that now that you say that. Did you not get in trouble and get arrested and shit? I feel like there's consequences to come with that. Oh, no, he got arrested. Yeah, he's in Costa Rica. Yeah, I think he's at the airport. Briefly detained before being sent back to the United States. Yes. But that's all they say.

Yeah, that's I mean, it's Costa Rica, dude. He probably was just like, but like, give me a break. They don't have laws there. Yeah, you probably just gave him some money. It's like, I mean, this is a bag. This is in March. So this is I think this is right after they won the last. Yeah, probably would have March 2018.

Is that line up? I don't know. Yeah. All right. Who else? Oh, dude. This pictures. Oh, shit, man. I got Brady said he smoked weed. Yeah. Yeah.

He admitted, I guess, in twenty one on Howard Stern. Yeah, I believe him. Yeah, he said he didn't. He said, I definitely had my fun in high school with partying, drinking and smoking weed on occasion and then I stopped. Pleasants. So yeah. Well, he said felt like I was letting my dad down in a way.

What a pussy, dude. What? So he doesn't. That's why I like never meet your heroes. This is what I'm talking about. Yeah. I meet Tom Brady and be like, this is underwhelmingly boring. I'd be like, can you throw a football around or something, dude?

Can we just play catch and I'll leave? It's so true. I let my dad down all the time. I don't give a shit. Yes. I'm way cooler than Tom Brady. I let my dad down all the time. I know.

Pussy. The point of it. Fuck you. Fuck you, dad. Oh, all right. Who else we got? Like air blunt. Oh, yeah.

That's that. That should have been the first one. I don't even know why he might be a person. I didn't even, I didn't remember that happened, but I was like, he definitely did. So I just searched blunt weed and something came up. Yeah. He smoked his way on the Steelers.

So he came back to the Patriots. It was leaving on bell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Three quarters of an ounce. And the Steelers.

Yeah. Fuck him. He's like walked away. I feel like Geron Harmon flying with 58 grams is worse than three quarters from. For sure. Yeah. Um, this is a hot take.

Uh, article from high times says that, uh, Malcolm Butler was benched for smoking weed. I think they're trying to allege on the Super Bowl if he got benched for weed. I don't think so. It can't be. Bell. Yeah.

Maybe. I don't think we'll ever know the answer to the Malcolm Butler thing, which is sad. You don't think, um, you don't think bell check will come out after retired? Never. Never. I think it'll make him look bad.

There's nothing. I can't think of a single reason. Wait, did we just skip over Josh Gordon and I didn't know he smoked weed. Stay off the weed. That's where that came from. The Steven A Smith getting pitched off. Josh couldn't stop smoking weed.

Yeah. He really couldn't. You still can't. Well, he's ripping it up in the U S F L or whatever the other one is. XFL. I don't know. Yeah.

He is XFL. Well, to your question about, imagine how good Josh Gordon would be if NFL didn't weed drug test. He might be like all time. Pretty sure he's the only receiver to have back to back 200 yard receiving games. And that was with like fucking Tim couch. Yeah.

I feel like he had more problems than just like. Right. I think he had like probably some deep emotional anxiety depression issues that if it wasn't weed, it would be something else. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah.

I mean, in high school, he was doing like also. So he was doing all that, like productive wide receivership. Well, high out of his mind and every single day apparently. Yeah. Down the straddle actually. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

This is getting a little dark voice. All right. Who else we got to bark AFNI. Like he got arrested. Yeah. Post Patriots. Didn't he have like a weed with them? I couldn't find many details on it.

It's just like Rick Caldwell had to look at things. Right. I bet. Yeah. Did Caldwell have some sort of thing in Florida, like a gambling thing or whatever? Yeah. I think he's he died.

Like a legal casino or some shit like that. There was a Caldwell arrested for third time this year because I should have marijuana and driving with a suspended license. Fuck yeah, dude. You got him. Hey, he's number one on my route. Whoa, dude.

In May, he was charged with possession of a controlled substance for signing for a UPS package that contained 4.8 pounds of MDMA. Oh, baby. And then he was shot and killed. He was killed. Yeah. Caldwell.

Right back to dark, man. Dude, fucking back in. Maybe it is a gateway drug. Police reports of the killing did not appear to be random and that the apparent robbery may have been planned. Oh, shit. I probably had to do some drugs.

The guy liked drugs. I'm one of the few Rache Caldwell fans. I liked him when he was on the pads. You did. I remember having a animated conversation because I said you hate him. My boy was Jabar Gaffney and I said Jabar Gaffney was a better receiver than Rache Caldwell.

I'm not going to comment at this time. You disagreed. I also put Brandon LaFell in that conversation. No. They're all just like, okay. Well, I mean, I think LaFell kind of wins. Yeah. This is not on this list.

All right. Randy Moss, Randy Moss is a fun one. Oh, for sure. I totally forgot about him. Yeah. It's not that much on it. He failed one drug test, but then like. But you know.

Yeah. When he was on Oakland, he was on HBO's Real Sports, Brian Gumbel, and he said, I have, you know, used marijuana since I've been in the league. As far as abusing it and, you know, letting it take control over me, I don't do that. No. And he said, I might have some fun.

Am I getting some trouble with the NBA NFL by saying that, but I've had my fun throughout the years. And then his agent tried to backtrack it all and be like, that was from years ago, even though he said, since I've been in the league. Oops. Yeah. Yeah.

Like this, the day I celebrated being crafted, you know. Larry Mutunsel, he turned out fine. Gas mask. Bong. That was all the moment in the NFL. That would be peak draft moment. Yeah. They waited right when the draft started and dropped that on.

It was like 10 minutes before. Yeah. Yeah. His own Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Should we. Like. Switch since I feel like a lot of these are getting dark. But I have a, I have a quote one article from the globe about Randall Gay and jerseys. Oh yeah. Let's hear it. All right.

So they wouldn't let. They wouldn't sell Randall Gay jerseys because of, because it's a naughty word. Yeah. No. Cause we can make a Ben Gay jokes. Yeah. So it says,

was rejected according to Rex Walkner. A calmness for 365 gay.com website for gay and lesbian related news and issues. Cannot print naughty words on jerseys. She said she had to make a series of phone calls to get gay on a jersey. Jim was in ski of out sports magazine, which covers gay sports community.

Did not. Did further research and found that there are 1139 band words in the NFL shop filter. Among them, among the acceptable words were Hitler, bag, terrorists and bin Laden. Bin Laden jerseys. Sick. By gay.

You could not have. I can just imagine this dude just plugging in different words into this. Washes. That's what he's doing. You feel like. No way. No way.

Yeah. He's like Genghis Khan. No. Hitler. Yes. Oh, interesting. That's fucking hilarious. Churchill band.

I used to play with a kid at UNH. Pat gay. And like you go to away games and you'd hear what like away fans like got the roster. And they'd be like, where is gay? Show me gay. Like they were just riding them all game. It was kind of funny.

Also Pat gay. That's bad. Yeah. He was he was a good guy though. I'm sure it was tough skin. Yeah. Yeah. He put up with a lot.

You need that when you're hanging out with Greg too. Yeah. Same team as Greg. Gotta have thick skin. So I think we should. Mercifully put this to bed. Yeah. Let's end it there.

Get a little dark. Yeah. So you've always wanted to do some best or worse. Steve, give me your best or worse. My best is showing up late. So I didn't listen to this entire thing. That was my best. Yeah.

I have no worse. Yeah. Fair enough. It's 420. That'll go. Greg, give me the best or worse. Best is definitely. Ricky Williams quote.

Which one? I didn't quit football because I failed a drug test. I failed a drug test. I was ready to quit football. I'm going to get that tattooed on me. And my worst is your take about Aaron Hernandez. Fair enough. Yeah.

You should have said that. My best was getting to meet the other Brown brothers. Oh, Tim. Oh, shucks. Oh, Tim. I mean, I'm a super fan, you know? But Greg Brown will tell you not to meet your heroes, but I'm here to tell you to do it.

Oh, you're going to make me blush, Tim. You've got to have a higher bar, my friends. You've got to do those. In the wise words of Vince Vaughn and dodgeball, you know, if you set a low expectation, you'll never be disappointed. That's a good point. That's a good point.

And my worst. That I didn't get it. Oh, that's a hot take. I didn't get a Hitler jersey when I cut up. I didn't know you still cared. But that's what I'm not going to try. I can do whatever you want. You can try terrorists.

Put on a list. Definitely out. Yeah. If you try Hitler after terrorists, you're on a list. For sure. Yeah. Trust me. You try terrorists on a list.

I'm going to kind of like go outside the box here. I'm going to do best and worst about the game. That's silly. We should have him go first. Yeah. My best is Tom Brady throwing his 100th touchdown pass in this game. Career 100.

Yeah. He's also my worst terrible. Yeah. It was not good. That was the only good thing he did. And then honorable mentions. They were doing game breaks. One of them was J.P.

Losman running out the back of his own end zone. So props to him for being a trendsetter. Yeah. That was the Detroit quarterback's name. Yeah. Orlowski. Yeah. Orlowski.

Yeah. Also David Carr. It wasn't even half time yet in his second game of the season. It's been sacked 10 times already. Good for him. Jesus. I think this is a record first. It's awesome.

My worst is the fact that clickbait has already started in 2005. Because I'm fucking Dan Deardorff talking about an article on nfl.com written by Phil Simms. Phil Simms said it's never too early for a quarterback controversy. Read what he has to say on nfl.com. By the way, this is week two. Fucking quarterback controversy. Go fuck yourself.

So I just want to say fuck the whole Sims family when they talk about quarterbacks because they're so bad at it. I like Chris Sims. He's so bad at talking about quarterbacks. Have you ever seen his quarterback rankings? Yeah. Garbage. Yeah.

He had Lamar Jackson for anybody. Yeah. That draft when everyone was like Lamar Jackson is like the sixth best quarterback. He had him like two. But not even number one. In your face, Andy. Yeah. He still sucks at it.

Because now he just doesn't for the takes. Oh, yeah, I'm putting trucking some random fucking no name at first. No, I like it because he doesn't just follow the same thing that everyone just does like the same shit. When you look at a draft, they're like, well, this guy and then that guy. And there's no one actually like putting themselves out there. He like ranks them at the beginning of the season. Oh yeah.

He is kind of a Brady like out. I'm talking about his draft stuff. Go fuck yourself. Yeah. Andy hates another thing. What a goddamn surprise. And he hates someone in sports media. Wow.

I do have a couple of football and not football. Oh, let's get him. Let's see. Yeah. So I don't know, Andy, when you listen, when you first turn the video on, did you hear the loudspeaker say show me the chicken? No, but I did hear some female fan or something like that saying let's go Raiders.

Okay. Cause I don't know why it was over the loudspeaker. It was like, show me the chicken. I did not understand what that meant. So I didn't know if that was football or not football. Bro, it's North Carolina. Show me the chicken, baby. That's definitely not football in North Carolina.

Definitely not football. I only have three because I was doing this. This is the situation last week where Carolina was burned by the tight end. I mean, show me a man who hasn't been burned by the tight ends. Am I right? Yeah. I mean, you were talking about that earlier. South Carolina, South Carolina, you know.

They have such confidence in their scheme and in their ability to collapse the pocket from just about anybody. And they just talked about we want to make Jake move his feet. We want him to dance a little bit in the pocket. Now that was a full scale collapse on the pocket. Any quarterback would have just had to push that thing and throw it away. Is that football or not football? I say throw it away.

Give paint a picture of something went wrong, you know. Well, I didn't think of it like that. Yeah. Like I think flesh and throw it away, dude. I'm thinking like, yeah. Yeah, but dance a little bit in the pocket. Yeah. There's a lot of collapsing happening and then you're going to throw it away.

Yeah. Clapping on what? I just, I think it's still football, though, because the way they're strung together, you know. All right. Fair enough. Way to ruin the bit, Steve. Thanks.

Glad. My words. You can't think of all of you not football. It's football or not football. My best is it's not just not football, Andy. We can just call it not football. That's how we're going here. All right.

You know what? Sometimes a naughty boy. Very naughty. So what do we have coming up? Greg, who's what's up next? Pittsburgh because I almost watched that game. I think. Yes.

Pittsburgh and San Diego, then Atlanta, all three division winners last year. So a hell of a schedule coming up with zero defensive backs. So we'll see how that goes. Big Ben. Yes. Big Ben. Yes. Agent Rothfelsberger.

Put your dick away, agent Rothfelsberger. All right. Well, on that note, I'll see you next week to see how much of a blubbering little bitch Greg is on the pager. It's dying. The podcast. All right. See you later.

All right.