Patriots Dynasty Podcast - 2021 Preseason Preview

Episode Date: August 24, 2021

With the excitement of preseason taking the Brown brothers by storm, we're taking a quick break from the past to talk about the future. Listen in as all three brothers give their hot takes while live watching the 2nd preseason games. And don't forget to check out the new Pats Positive website at either https://thepats.win or https://belichick.win.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast, as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Patriots' Dynasty podcast.

I am your host, Annie Brown. And normally here we do reviews of old Patriots games right now over in the middle of the 2004 season. But Middle Brother Steve Brown is here with me and the second 2021 preseason game is on as we're recording this. So he thought it'd be a good idea to do more of a forward-looking podcast, and Greg will join us at some point soon. Before he does, Steve, how are you?

I'm good. I'm watching Joe Flacco out there on the Eagles. Oh, shit. Is that who that is? Yeah. Oh, boy. Right? Why is he?

Okay. Cool. How do you lead? There were rumors at one point, I think. But similar to Pizzagate, I think that has been disproven at this point. Oh, I rest my case as literally the snap goes through his hands over his head and then he tries to pick it up and then fumbles it again on the page to recover. That's not a good one.

That's not a good one at all. Yeah. You're ahead of me, too, because I haven't even seen this play. You're well ahead of me. Oh, okay. I'm getting it illegally, though. Well, right. So, well, definitely.

I'm excited to watch this play, though. Oh. I need to remember to get down. Wait for the other. Oh, yeah. That was a catchable snap, too. That's right. That's why I'm saying you were all about defending Joe Flackle on that one.

He turns the throw and he catches it on the bounce kind of. He turns the throw and chewed on it. That was very Peyton Manning first snap of the Super Bowl-esque. And then he kept it in the center. I don't know. That was catchable. Yeah. It's not the center's fault, I don't think.

It was a bullet. Don't get me wrong. Oh, yeah. It was it was a hot one coming in there, but like get your hands on it. And then when you pick it up, hold on to it. He had two chances. Judan rushed him on that hit. Yeah. So.

All right, so where should we start? So you want to start with his defense? Yeah, that was on the field for two plays. Although we'll see who starts the Patriots, actually. That's the start of the offense, since they're about to take the field inside the red zone, inside the 10-year-old. Maybe I should pause this and you let me know when that first snap happens.

It's right now. Can takes a snap and off to David Harris. OK. Oh, boy. Yeah, I think I'm well ahead of you. All right, I think I should be about the same now. So this offense, they have trotted out Cam Newton, who I think is a presumed starter.

Yeah, this team, how do you feel? Start week one, Andy. I think Cam Newton is going to start week one. Mac Jones is plus two fifty to start right now. You want a hot take? Mac Jones doesn't start this season. How's that for? Oh, yeah. Did those the hot takes I'm looking for?

OK. And you want to know why? Because look at the top three quarterbacks in league right now. Name them for me. Pat Mahomes. Yeah. Tom Brady. Yeah. And Tom Brady. OK, and give me a third name. Then Tom Brady.

I'm just going to keep saying that a third different name. Probably Aaron Rogers, right? Those are the three consensus, like top three. Some people might have in different orders, but that's your top three guys. How many games combined did those three start in their rookie season? Yeah, they're all played a long time ago, except for Pat Mahomes. Right. He started one game.

There's a different era back then. We were one quarterback for the first year. That's that's pretty gone. Pat Mahomes was the exception to the rule. Well, I think yes and no, because I think that. Uh, the reason those guys sat was because they had a legit starter in front of them. So they were able to sit and learn for a year behind somebody who was already playing. Like Alex Smith was still there with the cheats.

What you're saying is that Cam Newton is a legit starter and was it the best chance to win? Yes. See, I see the other way. I think you might as well just roll with the rookie. Why? But what if what if he's one of the rookie starts oh and three and then gets demolished by Brady Week 4? Then you can use Rydom. But what if he doesn't get better than what if that shatters his confidence?

You just pull the jets and just ride until the wheels come off. And like the like the speaking of just like the jets have done with all of their quarterbacks for the past 20 years and actually ruined every single one of them because the bills did with Josh Allen. OK, so that's yeah. But who they got to write once in Chargers did with Justin Bieber. He's a beast now. OK. You know, what about every Jaguar's quarterback for the past 20 years?

What about every Brown's quarterback before playing the game? Come on. Right. And they were all ruins because they started too soon. So if you franchise are also trash, that's why they're picking high quarterbacks. It's true. But they also like so. Right. So they had to start. But if you don't have to start the guy. Why? Why do it?

Well, because maybe you think you have to start it because Cam Newton can't throw a ball more than five yards. But that's garbage. He can. He just fell behind. Sure, he did. Objectively, his passing was poor last year. It was poor, especially towards the end. It was fine at the beginning. But but after after he did his COVID stint

and he was he fell behind the offense and then he started getting a bad habits trying to play here a ball. And I think him having a whole off season and preseason with this team to be on the same page then and learn as this offense goes throughout the season. I think he'll be fun. This year. So what you're saying is I'm ignoring all the all the recent history,

which is the best predictor of future success and just going with the gut. History is isn't a prediction of anything. That's that's that's where people get trouble. And the best predictor of future reform is past success. Hmm. I don't know. Aaron Rogers has had a lot of past success. Anything he's going to suck this year. I think he's not going to want to Super Bowl this year.

Like, how homer do you want to be there? I can get I can get even more homer-ish if you'd like. By the way, the Patriots have scored a touchdown. They're up seven, nothing. Amy and Harris, they mean Harris looking solid. See, that's the thing. You don't even need a quarterback. You just need a quarterback who can who can complement this running game,

which is like four or five running backs. Let's talk about that. That's why that's why Mac can fit in, though, because all you have to do is not fuck up. It's true. And I think if you look at this offense, it's built more for a Mac Jones type quarterback because that's who Tom Brady was. Because if you run it really well with your running backs

and Cam runs it really well, now you're just running it all the time. And then right in the box, you have to throw and you can't. But you don't have to throw because Damian Harris average over five yards of carry last year. And like 80 percent of those runs were eight man boxes. You have to throw sometimes, Andy. Not if you're averaging five yards a run, you don't. You literally don't have to remember the Texas game when that we lost.

Did they play goal line in midfield against us? That's ridiculous. That says we don't respect your passing game at all. We're playing goal line in midfield. Mm hmm. But that was with an injured Cam Newton at that point. So right. So as long as not injured, you said, what do you think happens to Sony speaking of how many running backs they have?

Well, let's talk about the list. Give me the list of running backs on this team right now. Because there's a lot like 10 or 12. Damian Harris is a presumed number one. Yes, I would I would feel comfortable with that. He got the first carry inside the goal line. They sure did. Well, twice inside the 10 yard line.

Yeah, which is what you want to see. Yep. Sony is the presumed number two. Yeah, well, he was the former number one. I don't know if you can presume him number two, but you would think he's probably he's the second best back in that oldens on this roster. Probably you have Stevenson, you had that ninety one yard TD in the first pre right, right. And I think it looks like like air blunt.

He looks great. But the Patriots have a very long and storied history of. The first year running backs, never seeing the field ever. It doesn't matter how good they were, including Damian Harris. Yeah, although Sony, he played his first year, right? He played his rookie. He played an awesome play awesome. Because yeah, he had the most rush playoff rushing touchdowns of any rookie ever,

I think, right? Of any rookie running back, something like that. It was some like obscure stat like that. Six. Yeah. So yeah, I would feel I would feel like I would feel like I would feel like I would feel super confident with those two as you're as you're like running back stable, Sony and Damian Harris.

If they both those guys can either of them actually catch the ball. I don't know, but you still have James White, right? We've never really had that player, though. Who can do both type, right? Well, like Damian Harris and catch the ball like James White, because that player would be unstoppable in this offense. That's true. Well, that's what they're saying that Ramon J. Stevenson is going to be because they say he actually caught a lot of balls

coming out of where you come from, Oklahoma, Oklahoma. Yeah. I didn't know about balls. Yeah, I think he did because they were just kind of like a more spread off and sort of thing. But I think that that alone might be enough to maybe push him up the list of somebody who can do both because you saw the Patriots last year, even stick with Rex Burkhead before he got hurt because he could do both, even though he was not

a good runner as Sony or Damian Harris and not as good a pass catcher as James White, but because he can do both well enough, he gives you that flexibility to just line up however you want and either run or pass from that. But like Rex Burkhead, I forgot about him. You got to love Rex. Yeah, well, Rex is gone. Is he playing at all this year?

I feel like he went to the Texans like every other ex-patriot. Yes, that does sound right. Yeah. I'll leave you to say it like you said, half the Patriots roster. Right, exactly. Yeah, they're building the Patriots south down there. Not sure how that's going to go. Terrible. I can't imagine.

Deshaun Watson is going to play, right? He can't. I don't know. Even if he plays, that team is such a dumpster fire that it's just going to be awful. Even Deshaun Watson is not talented enough to save that team. I mean, he might be, but I don't. I would have a hard time figuring out how he plays.

Can you hear these Cape Cods that I'm eating right now? Yeah, this is the worst fucking radio. Rule number one of radios don't eat on the radio. So they're the summer, the Cape Cods summer version. They're potato chips. Oh, my God. Useless. All right, so running backs, deep, definitely a strong suit,

especially with this. What was the question? What do you think happens to Sony? Where do you think? Is he going to be on the roster day one? I think so. I caught him where they trade him. I think he's still on the roster day one.

Are you going to keep JJ as well? Oh, I forgot about JJ. Yeah, because that's a guy that's that's a guy that's tough to figure out. If you pick one of those two. Can he catch that green's white? Yeah, he's a little mini Dion. Can he catch, though? Yeah, he's really good at that.

He's like James White back up. It's true. Yeah. So, yeah, but can you get how many running backs can you conceive of the carry? I guess if you're a running team and you're just like going to say, fuck it, we're just going to carry three wide receivers on the roster. And if they get hurt, fuck them because we're just going to run it three out of four plays anyway.

I mean, you can try and trade, Sony. Oh, you could. For what, though? I don't know anything. Just cutting him. It's true. He's not bad. He's a good player. He is. No, he's a good runner. And I think as long as he can stay.

Yeah, for no real reason. That's just your typical New England negativity. But I think that the hate that he gets is mainly due to him not being able to stay on the field more than anything. And and like coupled with the fact that he was a first round draft pick and everybody around here hates Bill Belichick's drafting style. And I also think he had he had a shitty second year. After he had his first year.

That's true. Balled out in the playoffs. I feel I have a hard time blaming him for that because they were on their like third and fourth string line minute. Pretty much every spot. That was the year we had what's his name at left tackle. The guy off the street. That was an absolute turnstile.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Cunningham or something. So, yeah, it was something like that, though, felt so bad for the guy. But. Yeah, I mean, I think I can see them keeping Sony on this roster. And maybe stashing at least one of the younger guys. All right, Andy, do you do a roster projection for us right now? You got your full, a full roster rejection.

I don't I don't have the any of these lists in front of me whatsoever. I thought your Patriots nerd, you nerd. I am, but I don't have this on top of my head. Well, we'll walk through it. All right. Uh, all five running backs. Yes. Yeah, let's do it. Right at that. It's going to get confusing.

All right, write it down for me. I don't I can't write. I'm not writing it. I know you can't read either. So why are we writing this down? You're not going to be home. All right, because I believe in you, Andy. OK, all right.

You get what, how many any and how many players again? Fifty three. Are you sure it's not fifty four? Yep. Are you sure? Yeah, it's Chris Slade. Wait, say that again. That's how many that's how many players are as Chris Slade.

That's how you know. Yeah, OK, that that's how I remember all my numbers. Between like one and a hundred is by old Patriot jersey numbers. So anything fifty five is William McGinnis. Fifty four is Bruce Key or, you know, whoever you want. So I mean, just look at the the phone number we give up. It's got Troy Brown right in the middle of it, right?

Troy Brown for three, right? Five five oh five. Troy Brown for three. Exactly. Only because there's no forty three, there's no Patriots forty three. Yeah, right. There hasn't been. Who is it now? Is it Yacob Johnson? Is he forty three? He's forty something.

No, I do. Forty is that that's a tough number, because that's usually just like a full back number. Those only guys are now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now anybody can have any fucking number, feels like it's not a cool number. No, right. Or nine or number one, like Cam Newton. Right. See, now I got ones.

Ones are all set. He's slinging against these eagles here. Yeah, I got number three. Look, Oskowski, number four is obviously Adam and Terry. You know, and now thirty sevens. Damien Harris, we didn't have that either. Thirty sevens are random number. That is a random number.

Yeah. So quarterbacks, Andy, how many are you keeping? Two. OK, it'll probably be three. But, you know, whatever. The top two and tight end will probably keep about forty, I would say that most of this roster is going to be tight end. And I'm happy with that. You're going for the four tight end approach. I would like that. Yes.

If we can get at least four on the field at one time, that would be ideal. OK, so you have forty seven players before the. And you need five on that offensive line. Yeah, I think the offensive line is fucking tight ends. Yeah, you probably could, right? I'm not even quite sure you know what a tight end is. It's not Tim Tebow, Andy. Clearly, it's it's anyone.

Well, those videos of Tim Tebow attempting to block look like what I would look like in a professional football game trying to block. You'd be like, go go hit that guy. And I would do it. And I would just fall over like he did. It's amazing. I would be able to lead me immediately. Probably so.

Yeah, I mean, I think stack of running backs because I think you'll rotate through them all. They might stash maybe one of them. And like the practice squad or, you know, you might get the Foxborough flow where he's, you know, on injured reserve for the whole season with a mystery illness. Yeah. And then, yeah, I don't I think the tight ends are pretty much set.

You've got the top two, obviously, the two new guys. Are you worried that they're getting hurt all time? Only because that's just kind of how tied at the tight end position goes. Like tight ends don't often stay healthy all all season, even with a guy like Gronk or something like that. Like they just they're always injured just because of how that position is. I feel like Conte Henry has a has a wrap of being injury prone.

He does. I think it's a little overblown. I've seen some articles out there about how they're just, you know, he's they're they're lying in. Is this no, it's just it's like when everybody say Amandola was injury prone and basically it was like the same injuries that. Yeah. Yeah, everybody was ripping that that thing to shreds, the fact that they replaced Welker with Amandola

because Amandola was right. But basically, they had kind of similar injury history, but Welker had his towards the end of seasons and Amandola had his like at the beginning, so he missed more games. So it's things like that. Henry is going to be fragile. No. Do you think people all right? Let's put some more hot takes down any.

I'm putting you on the record. All right, give it to me. So you're saying we keep Sony, right? Yep. I'm making notes here. Hunter Henry plays all 16. Yeah. What's our record for the first four games? First four games.

I don't even know who we're playing, but I would say three and one. Only because we start slow. It is home against the dolphins. OK. At the Jets. OK. Home against the Saints. OK. Home against the Buccaneers. OK.

Yeah, three and three and one is my conservative estimate. OK. And then what's their season long record? Keeping in mind, there's an extra game this year. I don't know. The 12 wins and how many losses that mean now? Five. We'll tell them five. Twelve and five.

That accounts for the extra game, right? Yeah, because you told them four. Give me my next trial. Yeah. Cam Newton plays the whole season. Yeah, we've already established that. Yeah. Yeah. What else? I don't know what other bold hot takes you got, Andy.

Bold hot takes. I came here for hot takes. Matt Judon, defensive player of the year. I feel OK. That one's that one's a little too hot, even for me. I'll put it out there, though. All right. It's going to be tough to beat out the likes of Aaron Donald.

Right. Yeah, that's exactly what I thought when I saw it. But I don't know, this this team's looking good. And he's been an absolute wrecking ball the entire entire game. Yeah, he looks like every time he's on the field, he's just like disrupting. He is the player that I'm most excited for. Offensive defense. Oh, really? Well, because the quarterback controversy is definitely entertaining.

Yeah. But I think the way this team is going to go is how good their defense is going to be. I think that's part of it. I think Johnny Smith is going to be. And I'm not quite sure. A nice way to put this, I'm going to say I think Johnny Smith is going to be used in a similar way that our old friends, Aaron Hernandez, was used back in the heyday of those two Titans.

And I think going back to the Titans, Devin Asiasi. Is it is it Devin? I think it's Devin. No hopes for him. I do. I think I think he showed a little bit of a flash at the end of last season. And I think because of how much, you know, wear and tear these Titans. Go through, I think he's going to be that integral second Titan guy. Oh, in some spots, can you see how many touchdowns or catches? Oh, it doesn't matter.

His contributions aren't going to be on the set. She like that. He's going to be more of he got it. Yeah. So, yeah, what else do you want? I can give you hot takes all day, Steve, like literally all day. You can just keep firing him. This is yeah, dude, I used to work in a marketing agency. This this comes naturally to me. Oh, yes, you're right.

I can talk up anything who is a Super Bowl and how much of the pages win it by. More than they've ever won a Super Bowl with Tom Brady. So what's the what's the biggest? Was it 10 points against the last one they won? Yeah, the 13 three. Yeah. So I'll say 14 to touchdowns, Super Bowl winners. Yeah. Yeah. Calling it now. And even it doesn't matter who's again, I think they'll hold

the opposing offense to their lowest output of the season, too. And the Super Bowl. Oh, why not a shout out to any. Come on. Because shut out the hard to do in this NFL. That's why. So what about Steph Gilmore, what do you think is going to happen with him? He'll get signed. It's a matter of time. You kind of have to. Did this deal two or three years, probably.

With a bunch of guaranteed money. How many punt return touchdowns does Gunnar have any three? Now, he will have at least one. You will. He will definitely have a punt return touchdown. Who leads the past and receiving? Oh, good question. I would say. Probably Jacobi Myers is the easy answer.

That's not much of a hot take, is it? So I'm going to say Johnny Smith. You just you just putting hot takes for the intent of them being high. You don't even believe that one. Right. You know, it's going to be him. I know it's going to be him. Yeah, it's got to be Jacobi Myers. Like this is what it is. How many wide receivers are keeping on your roster?

The name. Uh, give me some names. Well, Jacobi Myers. Right. Nikhil Harry, Nelson Agalore. Right. Kendrick Bourne, Kendrick Bourne. And isn't there some other guy like some of the Williams or something? Williamson, some Wilkerson, Wilkerson. Yeah, Gunnar, Gunnar, Matthew Slater.

I don't count him as a wide receiver. He's never played. Sure. Special teams guy. Yeah. So he'll be a special team guy. You could probably put Gunnar in that same spot. You probably won't too much on the field as a wide receiver. At least not yet. OK, so you're keeping all of them?

Uh, I think one of those guys will go. Which one? Probably Wilkerson, I would think. So you're keeping Nikhil. I think so. I unless he gets traded. That's the only way he leaves. So you have a four there.

I think I had four. Yeah. Let's talk on your special teams, guys. How many special teams only guys are keeping? At least three. Well, you got to keep Slater. Right, Slater signed Bethel. Is he I suppose he is just a special team guy. Yeah, he's a cornerback, I think.

Right. Yeah, yeah. But he probably not going to see the field. Oh, Bolden, too. Got a big old hard on for Bolden. Yeah, Gunnar. Yeah, Gunnar. Kicker, Punter, Long snapper, we're up to seven here. Well, yeah, OK.

Kicker, Punter, Long snapper, yeah. All right, it's about right. Seven. Yeah. Call seven. Who's the kicker you think they're going to keep? Uh, the rookie kid with a big leg. Yeah, I think so. Trust him, though.

No. No, whatever. He's going to go. He's like the the shot. So I think I trust him enough, I think, is is where it goes. I feel like kicker is a big a big role. Kickers can decide games. That's what I mean.

So I trust him enough. I don't think Nick Folk is. A big enough asset that you let the potential of the big leg go. Right, right. So Greg has been joining for about like 10 minutes now behind the scenes here. And now he's joining twice and it's not working. So we are in midseason form here on the podcast.

No, we're in preseason form. And Jesus, no, this is midseason form for us. Greg, not being able to get on the goddamn zoom call. I just click the link and it works every time. Yeah, I've never had a problem. It just just happens. But 58 of these that we're doing. We're actually up to 70 something.

Jesus Christ. Right. So it's been a lot. All right. Yeah, so how did I do on offense? How many guys we have? Oh, often special teams. How many how many different math is not my thing.

I was putting this in a spreadsheet and just like in doing a count. I'll just tell you the numbers. You add them up. Oh, my God. I'm going to open the calculator. Let's see if we can get this right. Four is 11 plus four is 15 plus five is 20. Twenty two. Listen to you not being good at math.

So twenty two. I'm actually a little under. But we don't have awesome ends of line, though. Yeah, I was about to tell you that pencil in like probably six or seven of those, I would think, because you can't just have the five. You need at least five. You can't have the five. Generally, you have what a backup tackle and a backup inside guy. And yeah, you're more like an extra center.

So you have those. So what do you want? Those three, seven or eight, Andy, seven. It's twenty nine. Well, I call it eight. Give it to me. Whatever. How many defenders can you possibly need on this team?

They're all rock stars. Oh, wow. So confident. This team is full of studs, dude. Name me one one spot where it's like some no name dude. Spot with a no name, dude. Whoever is the corner opposite J.C. Jackson, if we don't resign stuff.

Yeah, but we've already said we're resigning. So that's why we're resigning because who the hell is going to play the opposite side? Jawan Williams. He sucks. No, he's shown nothing. He's he's tall. He's rangey. Oh, cool.

Andy, I got it here. Well, well, well, if he got an interception last game, that was because of Ronnie Perkins being right in the guy's face. Yeah. Oh, also looks legit. This is the best season is when everybody looks good and nobody looks bad. Well, some people look bad, but it's it's usually not pages because I think the deal with getting like super excited about pages preseason games is that. Oh, good.

Yeah, I'm having a meltdown right now, dude. Greg's here, everybody. A technological meltdown at my house. I know we saw you try to join for about 15 minutes now, three separate times. You know, not responding and then it just shits the bed on your computer. Not only that, neither my spectrum cable box nor the NFL Network app is working. So I can't even watch the game while my zoom shits the bed.

Did nothing works, nothing. Steve, how's your how's your connection going? It's pretty solid. I'm right next to the routers, right? Right over here. So in a nice stream. OK, he's going to sleep. So he's letting it play. Yeah, well, I am having no issues.

So well, I'm glad to hear that, Andy. And he's having issues, but his issues are his like erection. It's really rage or not because he's being the biggest home. Yeah, exactly. It's like legitimately, Greg. What's the score? Seven, seven, nothing good, guys. We looking good? Yeah, on both sides of the ball, of course.

But I was actually just trying to get into this before you rudely interrupted. Sorry. Yeah, I think the I have a hard time getting super excited about page three season because they're they're philosophy for making that's 14, nothing, no, 13, nothing. They're philosophy for building a team is less like high end guys and more spending the money on the mid range. So the Patriots like second team is always going to be better

than any other team, second team, generally. I mean, not always, but as as kind of a general rule, you're going to have that. So you can watch the first play the first and get some kind of idea of what's going on. But in terms of like once the second team comes on, like I feel like the page is going to have a slightly higher class of of player. Andy. Shut up.

And this kicker is now Miss Two Kicks. The guy said he was locked in. We're so good. No, I'm saying you can't everybody else. He can't even tell. It's not so good. It's just a different shit on everybody. It's a different philosophy of building a football team.

But it's fun to watch those guys in an area to sing. Because it's great, especially this year. All the new guys. Oh, yeah. Oh, draft picks. Yeah. But there's always one guy who shines brightly. The Danny etlings of the of the team. Like, oh, he ran for an 88 yard touchdown again as a quarterback against the giants. He's a lot to make this team.

He's going to be the next Tom Brady. And guess what? He wasn't Steve. No, they were tied in a few years ago, too. That it was like, oh, he's the next wrong. He didn't even make the goddamn team. No one said that. Oh, so you think Jacobi Myers, that sick ass touchdown you just had. Yeah, Joe, you come to clean him off his cleats on the five yard line.

Don't that. That's not real. Also, I'll have you know, this is a great downfield throw by none other than Ken Newton here. It was not a great downfield throw. He threw it like just a little bit to the left. It was a great throw when we were on here. Downfield throw wide open. I would not call it downfield that throw travel like 10 yards in the air. That's Pat. That's downfield.

You fucking idiot. Greg, you let me know when you're ready for some of Andy's hot takes that I've been gathering here and let me hear him. We're keeping Sony. Yeah. OK. Hunter Henry plays all 16 games. Yeah, we're keeping we're keeping the keel as well. Pasco, three and one to start 12 and five on the season. Yeah.

Mac Jones doesn't see the field. Oh, oh, I said he didn't start a game. He might he might see like clean up, you know, you know, yeah. I see he'll take some knees. Got Patrick stomping the fucking dolphins at the end of the year. You know, and then Matt Giudano is defensive player of the year. Yeah, that one. That one's just for hot takes sake. Yeah. Yeah.

That's the rest of the most. The rest of her like mediocre takes their lukewarm, I think. But I think this I think this this team is going to be a solid team. I think Cam Newton is going to surprise a lot of people. I think the point I made at the beginning of this before you here, Greg, was that the top three quarterbacks in the league right now all started zero or one game in their rookie season.

And Brady didn't start any and Roger didn't start for like three years. And Pat Mahomes started one game. And I think it's because all three of those teams had the luxury of having a starting quarterback. To be able to bench their guy. And I think the pages have that, too, and giving. Not throwing Mac Jones to the Wolves week one, I think. Yeah, but that doesn't support that they'll be good this year.

Right. I mean, those teams are bad. And till the star quarterback got in. That's true. No, I believe if Cam starts every game, this is like a 10 win game at Max. Maybe. I think. And the other the other thing that I was saying is that I think this offense has built more for a Mac Jones style quarterback than a Cam Newton style quarterback.

Because it's built. It's historically been built around a Tom Brady's quarterback, which is what came and he also thinks we're going to win the Super Bowl with Cam Newton. He put that down there, too. And we're going to win the Super Bowl by 14 points, which is more than Brady ever wanted by. Right. I would venture to guess there's a zero percent chance that happens. It's just been spitting off the they're not.

They're homer takes homer takes. Obviously, that's why you have me here. He also wants to build a website that only has homer take content on it. Once you know I have, I've already done it. The Pats.win. Just don't go to pages.win, because that's a whole different. That's a whole different echo chamber, if you will. Of what? Of Trump supporters.

Yeah, it's it's where all the Trump supporters you got kicked off. Oh, that makes sense. They started their own brand new Reddit. Yeah, USA Patriots, not New England Patriots. A different kind of well, yeah, different kind of Patriots, somewhat argue. You should just make a Belichick.win. No, I should. Hang on.

You're going to talk amongst yourselves. You're going to change it now. Talk amongst yourselves. I just got to make sure I buy it before somebody else does. Oh, yes, yes. It's a spectrum. I hate spectrum. Do you have choices of anything else?

Yeah, right. How do you have choices? No, right. I doubt it. Oh, look at this. What's that? I'm not working on my computer now. Fumble looks like there was a problem with the video. I am over four.

Deal it up the internet, Greg. That's what I've been doing. No, that's fine. Yeah, so don't even go to NFL Network. NFL, of course, they can't get their shit to work right. Send them a link, Steve. Thanks, it's warm. I should probably have to fucking carry your pigeon

to him right now, but I was putting this chat. Can I use your computer? Except he's you can't use the check because he's on fucking iPhone. Yeah, I can't even. And now he's frozen. I fucked them up. Oh, boy.

All right. So this is this is an absolute shit show, which is perfect. Kind of like this Philadelphia office. I'm a little surprised they're starting. You're a golden boy. Well, I mean, Jalen Hurst must be sitting this one out. Maybe they I guess they know what they have in them. Still, he's a young guy who only got the job at the end of last year.

Right. So you would think you want to get him as much live reps against a real defense as possible. No, it probably is. Things can get hurt. Maybe. Right, though, as a loser mentality. Yeah, yeah, good enough to be skipping preseason reps.

No, nobody is. Except Tom Brady, who will refuse to skip fucking preseason reps because he's Tom Brady. Yeah. Yeah. But you know who is going to be a beast this year, too? Who's that? Kyle Duggar. Yeah.

You were here to I think it was him that last year, the one of the reporters during training camp asked him like, so how would you grade your season last season? He said, C, C plus. Like, Jesus, you were the only bright spot on that defense C plus. Here I was. Yeah. No, this defense, I think is going to be. Like just.

I don't think there's as many big name signings that you'd see on here as you would. Oh, Jesus, somebody's down. As you would. Like on the offense is like the big splash they made on offense, you know, their first round pick in the two tight ends and all that. And Cam Newton, obviously. But this defense, like bringing back Kyle Van Noy, I think is a huge deal. I think bringing back

on the high tower, another huge deal. But they're like known quantities at this point, you know, so I'm less excited for them because I'm just assuming they're going to be as good as they were. Well, right. You're right. Right. Right. That's what I'm saying, though. Whereas, you know. Duggar knows the conveying. Well, I mean, we saw we saw what he could do last year.

Just kind of all by himself, right? Yeah, it's going to be a beast. Judon, yeah, Judon has already shown what he's going to be and it's early. Oh, super excited for him. Yeah. And then up front, I really want to see Chris with a child. I don't even think he's played in the preseason yet. Yeah, I don't know if he's playing this

because we've got this game on mute in the background. I thought I saw a shot of him warming up forehand. So my guess is he may have been out there, but I don't know. We'll probably have to. It's always tough to tell the fat boys. Right. Yeah. Because that's the thing I still don't like completely recognize the number because half the guys have changed a number and half of them are just new

because there's so many new people on this team, even from the last year. I like the single digit linebacker numbers, too. Very confusing. I haven't gotten ready for you. I haven't been able to get it. Well, you haven't been much in college, which is where it's like, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a big college guy.

So yeah, I know you went and you failed that after a semester. And do we remember? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I did it again and I eventually, you know, seven year plan got through it. No big deal. But oh, oh, who is this? Who's this joining us? No, it can be his audience.

Not working so close. I'm so excited. We have the headphones on the microphone. We can see him. He's he's started. We can definitely hear this because he's flipping us the bird. Yeah, we just can't hear him the best of both worlds. It's still nothing.

Oh, man. Oh, he's so frustrated. Yeah. When Greg gets off, he acts like such a little bitch. There's no cheering him up. He's just no, no. He's stupid. I like that he's persevering.

I it's very, very do your job. Very patriotistic of him. In the meantime, while he's figuring that out, I will announce that I have purchased Belichick.win. Oh, good. So that will be redirected to the Pat's.win. So the Pat's.win or just Belichick.win. Yeah, yeah, either one will work.

And this site is just are you like curating home or content or are you creating all of your homerism content? I think I'm going to create my homerism. It's it's a it's a it's a brand that I think can't really be curated, you know what I mean? Like nobody else can can give you the homerism that I will. The the fair and balanced homerism that you'll get from Andy Brown.

And this homerism, how much can I expect? It will be sporadic, I think. It will probably be more reactionary than anything is going to be my guess. So just pure homerism. I even yeah, I think I'm going to first I'm going to start at least before the season starts, just writing up. About my favorite players.

So there's a there's one post so far on there. It's all about Julian Edelman and how great he was in his first ever playoff game, which was the blowout against the Ravens. Blow out the blowout against the Ravens. They lost when they lost the Ravens, like badly in like 2011 when Ray Rice ran for 80 yards first play of the game. Yeah, I remember the game. The game was tough.

Yeah, you know who the only bright spot in that game was Julian Edelman. Fucking killing it, scored two touchdowns. So you went deep into a game where we got kicked out of us. All right. Yeah. And put a positive spin on it. Yeah, that is some homerism. Like I said, it's it's it's a type of homerism that I don't think can be outsourced. So that's the homerism I can get behind your other

homerism that's just stupid. I don't know if I can get behind that. Which homerism is that? The rest, which is predictions. All of it. Well, predictions are fine. Well, your your Patriots win the Super Bowl by 14 points. All right, well, give me some fair and balanced bullshit then, Steve.

You're good at dishing it out, but you haven't actually given any takes your own that we can judge you on. That's not what this is. The episode is about, Andy. Hard disagree. Greg. This is about you. Thoughts. Wait, I think I may have heard you.

Oh, hang on. So he's joining as Kelly Brown now, his wife. This is amazing. I think we should. I think we should. That's the podcast. Thanks for joining, everybody. You've got to wait till he's connected.

But I feel like we should just start a podcast where we have technically illiterate people try to join the podcast and just see how long it takes. And then when they finally get to Greg, I think we I think we might be able to hear me. Yes, we can hear you. Eighth tries a charm. Nice. Nice of you to join us. You sound great. Number two. You sound amazing.

You know, my phone. Thanks for joining. This is my audio terrible. Are you just talking to computer Mike? Yeah. My microphone is not as bad as I thought it would be. Yeah, I'm I'm getting tech support from Kelly right now. Also, she's cooking dinner.

That's as Mac Jones played any yet? No, no, good. I didn't miss anything. I mean, you've missed your week one starting quarterback showing why he should be. But other than that, I mean, we know we're getting with Cam, you know? Yeah, we're interested in Mac. That's true. But I mean, like I was saying before, how much can you really tell with Mac Jones playing against the number two Eagle defense?

Right. Yeah. Joe Flacco. Yeah, it has been playing this whole game. Still taking around, huh? Yeah. Thank you, Kelly. You think they have a quarterback controversy in Philly? Like they say, if you've got two quarterbacks, you got no quarterbacks. Flacco is elite.

Was he? Yeah, he did not any easy, though. You didn't know. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Hold on. I think I'm asking the wrong questions. Is elite at what? This is who I forget whose quote this was. And then she's been thrown back in his face. It wasn't even Joe Flacco's close when his teammates

has been thrown back in his face for years. Who was it? I don't remember who. I thought it was like a fucking. Cliff, what's his face? Kellerman, yeah. Who I don't know if you saw the news. I call him Cliff Kellerman.

I actually don't remember his first name. That's why I call him. That's right. Yeah. So but did you hear that he has been released from first take? So his career actually lasted not as long as Tom Brady's. Yeah, I saw that. The guy calling for Tom Brady to follow the cliffs never did. Then fall off the cliff himself.

Oh, you're nearly at an interception in the end zone. He sure did. Hell, yeah. I'm ahead of you guys now. This is going to make for great radio. I had to back my video up to keep up with Steve's illegal stream. Yep. He's got the ghetto shit. I got the spectrum going now. You're all fucked.

And now, just because this is an audio medium, and nobody can see you, Greg, but you have a computer on your lap and there's a light directly behind you. So it's just a silhouette of you, which is sad, because I know how grumpy your face looks right now. I'm not grumpy. Your face looks like he sounds pretty calm. Yeah, I was grumpy for a second there. Yeah, but he did a little bit of meditation.

You can see the deep breathing and he's back. I was sad. I was disappointed and not mad. We were disappointed, too, to not be able to to chat with our brother. I was. I'm not going to put any words in season. Don't let me in with that. I think it's great to have you both here. It's been a while since the three of us have. Chatted Patriots, so great.

Give me some give me some predictions. Yeah, some hot takes I want to know. I want to know how you think this season is going to go. We can we can we can follow Andy's as well. All right, my hot take. Yeah, Jacobi Myers leads the team in receptions. And we actually talked about that. We didn't think that was a very hot take.

And yeah, Andy even agreed to that one. And then he's like, oh, should I get a product out there? John, yeah, I thought it would be John. The hot take would be somebody else being the the leader. But how about this? How about this? How about this? Take it a step further. Jacobi Myers, top five wide receiver in the NFL.

I thought you were going to say that for a player of the year. No, not offense player of the year. That's came there. He said, you don't for defensive. And you agree with me if I get it here. I didn't agree with you. I just said that was the least of your hot takes because you had some fire.

No, it's the most of my hot takes. Are we keeping Sony, Michelle? Is he making the opening day roster and or Nikhil Harry? I've heard Harry's playing well. And I think they need a receiver more than they need a running back. Right? Yeah. Yeah, there's some sick running backs. Yeah, we went through the list and we went through the list.

I'm like, oh, they're going to keep everybody. And then Steve's like, what about JJ Taylor? And then they got the ball inside the nine yard and they gave it to Harris twice and scored a sweet touchdown. We'll be there. That's how they started the game. Hmm. He looks promising. Yeah. Yeah.

Sony, yay, nay. I say, yay. They seem to like them. They do. For some reason. I get it. He's good when he's on the field. He just doesn't stay on the field a lot. First option, though, right? All right, what about Nikhil?

Yeah, I think I think Nikhil has a better chance of making it than Sony. OK, does Hunter Henry play the entire season about getting injured? Probably not. I mean, Andy, anything. So can you look that up? Stat check.

Anything that he has the same injury history as who is it? Amandola. No, I said his injury history is overblown like Amandola's was when he came here. That's what it was. Injury history is exaggerated by the media. It's a conspiracy. Yeah, you can read all about it.

You can find out more on Belichick.Win. Exactly. Exactly. I was going to say, thanks, Steve. Way to plug it, baby. Did you hear about this, Greg? Did you catch the part where I'm building a a Pat's positive website to counterbalance all the negativity? No, that's just a historical tracking website.

Oh, so this is going to be like hot takes and like opinions and stuff. Yeah, it's just going to be a more positive spin on the news of the day. But only positive. Oh, boy, wait till you see this play, fellas. You guys better run zip. Really? Oh, yeah, it was an incompletion over the middle. Almost a bit. Just you wait.

Oh, boy, the exception that I was just a good defensive play. It was the right. Oh, maybe not. Well, I mean, it was a diving deflect. Yeah, it was a good defensive play. I'm sticking with it. As a as a member of Patriots.Win. Oh, no, sorry. The pads don't win.

Wrong website as a media member, I'm going to say. Oh, OK. You talk to the Mac Jones and the kill Harry play, Greg. Oh, oh, you want to see a lot of this year? I want to see it all. The kill Harry. I would like to see Harry do well, though. I do, too.

Just I think he's got a bit of he gets from people. Yeah, not going to that guy from Arizona that said he was awesome and loved to make. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, the Cardinals fan. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. You got that episode about 2004 week three or something. And yeah, two or three. Yeah, it was early.

Yes, you want to hear more about Arizona fans? Go back and listen to the Cardinals episode of the season. A few episodes ago. So. Well, Mac Jones, a little scrambling. Oh, boy. All right, hot take, J.C. Jackson, all pro.

Really? See, I disagree. Stefan Jackson, this was one of our things. How long do you think it is stuff on the team? And and if so, for how many years is this contract? I'd say he's thinking deeply, but he's just eating because. Are you talking to me? Fuck yeah. Hell, yeah, Kelly just said, what are you bar stool now? I was like, come on.

What Kelly? How we bar stool because we're making hot takes. Yeah. And she never listened to literally any Patriots podcast. That's all they are now. I think she associates it with part of my take. Is that correct, Kelly? We just listened to a lot of that on our show.

Are you taking creative feedback from Kelly? OK. Just just making sure that we're clear on what's happening here. Kelly's our target demo. Can you can you let her know that? Part of my take doesn't eat while they're while they record. So we've got that on them. And they have better technology or less professional.

Oh, much less for those in part of my take. Yeah, we we take amateur podcasts to heart. And today, fellas, one of the outer banks this weekend. OK. That's great. I'm sure our listeners are thrilled to hear it. Yeah, if anybody is ever visits North Carolina, the outer banks to spot to be in the television show.

Have you seen it, Andy? No, I've heard of it, though. Is it like one of those like the reality TV show, right? No, it's it's it's scripted, but it's like. Oh, it's like the O.C. Yes, it's like a current version of like like like a like a yeah, like a scripted reality show. Like the Kardashians, that sort of thing.

No, no. Oh, OK. No, it's it's completely scripted, but it's like a bunch of like 60. Well, they're supposed to be 16. Like, yeah, horned up, banging each other with like a veiled like story about drama. OK. Yeah. And the actors are actually like 25. Right. Yeah.

Playing high school kids. Yeah. Like like one tree hill back. Yes, one tree hill. That's that's the thing I was looking for. That's what I've actually been rewatching that lately. You. Yeah. It's a show that like my wife and I. She was watching it when we first started dating.

So we like we watched together for a bit. And actually that song, I forgot to mention on the last episode, the intro song to that was the intro song to the previous game last last the last week in the game that the Patriots won their 19th game in a row in 2004. Yeah. I mean, it's probably around the same time frame as it was there. That show started in 2003, which is why. Yeah. And so 2004 was their their eight day.

That's who was your favorite character, Andy? I got to say, Brooke is definitely my favorite character. Is he the bad boy? Is she? Oh, she's the rich girl. Yeah, she's fucking hysterical. I just remember the bad boy came to town, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then it turned out he was the

the brother of the the bad ass basketball player, like the. Yes. Guy is. Yeah. Whose dad was a huge dickhead? Yeah. Yeah. Great show. That you see that highly recommended Andre Stevenson. That was pretty cool. Yeah. He is the leader of one. He's got the leader of one hair speaking of football.

You have the same hair. Same build. Yeah. Same running style. Yeah. But yeah, I think for Monday, Ramon Dre Stevenson, hard to say. But I think I'm not keeping Sony because I got him as the backup. There's just so many. There's seven running backs on the team right now.

But maybe. All right, Greg, other questions for you. Well, he didn't answer the phone Gilmore. What about him? Does he stay on this year? And if so, how long? How many years is his contract? I think he stays one more year here.

Just one. So you think they only give him a one year contract? Yeah. You don't think it'll be like a two or three year betrayed him after the season? Hmm. I'm not going to sign up for that take, but I will sign up for that. I think he's got one more year here. He wants more money than the pads are willing to pay him.

But that's as far as like a gap year. I think he's going to have a tougher time getting out of town than just being like, all right, I'll play one more year here. And then I'm getting real money. Yeah. Yeah, I could see that. I think. Similar to Rivas, where we're like, yeah.

Yeah, that's that's kind of what I was trying to get at with the the two year deal, where it's like a second year. That's like ridiculous that they never intend on actually paying and just get rid of him. Like it's just a one year rental sort of deal. Yeah. And he's been great for what. What we expected from him, right?

I think he's kind of served his duty. Absolutely. So I just don't know if I believe in JC as the heir apparent. Dude, number what do you get? Number forty six on the top 100. I just like last year when he was pressed to the number one duty, he did not play that great. I felt the the his peers disagree, Steve.

He gets a lot of interceptions as why his stats are smooth. Yeah, but they're they're the NFL players, you know, like they played against them. Yeah, the media just being like, OK, yeah, you know, but you you expect the NFL players to have my my opinions on my own. OK, Greg, I don't get influenced by me. I'm not a goddamn sheep. No, I know I'm saying that he I listened to here.

Hey, I am the media. The this aren't actually bottom of the conspires as a conspiracy. That's we can we can do conspiracy. Good Dell. Traffic's in children. I think we'll do a conspiracy section. I feel like that that bodes well. It better be a lot of slander against Goodell.

I mean, I think that's what the conspiracy section of the website itself, you know, the NFL work as an organization. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, here's one. I'll write this. I'll write this up for when this comes out. But I think conspiracy theory number one, the NFL conspired to keep the Patriots out of the playoffs by forcing them to go to Kansas City when they shouldn't have last season and that ruined their entire season

because they didn't want Belichick to succeed. They wanted the NFC to succeed this year. You can ask the at Pat's guy to join you. Remember, you had all those all those instances of them changing the rules to hurt the Patriots. Yeah, right. Yeah. She writes itself. I mean, I'll I'll flush that one out a little bit. But yeah, just to give some background here,

we got a text midweek this week that Andy said he's backing on football because he stopped watching last year because of the Kansas City debacle. And I was like, what? Yeah, I didn't even know what he was talking about. You mean like Brian Hoyer's brain farts? No, I talked about this. I thought he meant because Hoyer had a couple of dumb dumb plays in that game.

I talked about this like when it happened on this podcast about how I was giving up on the season and giving them a free pass. And I wasn't going to be continuing to watch it because the NFL had given up on the idea of competitive balance by forcing them to play that game and then forcing them to play the game after that against Denver when they hadn't practiced at all for two weeks. So going into a game completely cold, having not practiced because Belichick decided to put the health of his players

over the health of the NFL's paycheck. Read more on the check dot win or is just COVID and they wanted to make money and not cancel games. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So then so they put they put the health of their paycheck over the health of the players. It's so it's just it's just a coincidence that it was the Patriots. That got you all going to have a whole section dedicated to Ted Wells to Andy.

He's going to dig in his background. I wonder how much it would cost to hire a private investigator. Oh, I'll do it for free. OK. Yeah. I'm an investigator. Are you? It's true. It's literally in my title. Really?

Ball hair investigator. Then what team lead complaint investigation lab? Oh, you investigate complaints. Have you had to investigate us? I feel like this should be a lot of complaints. Yeah, you complain a lot. So and you don't ever fucking investigate. What kind of brother are you?

Yeah, I suck at my job. What do you want me to do? Fair enough. I can't argue with Greg. Oh, man. All right, Greg, give me the Patriots record first four games. Can you list who they're playing? Home against Miami at the Jets,

home against the Saints, home against the Buccaneers. They are doing to. Lost win, win, loss. Lost. You think we lose to Miami to start at home? Yeah. So you have to get home. They win. They're a good team. That's true. But I mean, to what I think could.

Like, if we're going to talk cliffs here, boy, is a wild card. Yeah, he could go either way. But my my gut kind of tells me he's going to be a bust. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I'm with Greg on this one. You can kind of tell with quarterbacks like early on, whether they kind of have that it factor where like, even if they're losing or playing poorly, there's some throws where you're like, OK.

Yeah, I see. For him, I was like, nothing ever jumped off. He was like a game manager and really wasn't he wasn't he wasn't he. And they also kind of fucked it up when his magic was playing pretty well and they pulled him for Tula. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, he's come out and said that he's thought that was crazy. Right. And and do you think that that ruined his. His confidence?

I don't know. But either way, I don't know what's what's crazy. You're going with Tula or going with Ryan Fitzpatrick as a starting quarterback here in twenty twenty one. No, Ryan Fitzpatrick is great. Oh, he's great. Yeah, I think he gives you a chance to win any game. I think Ryan Fitzpatrick, higher ceiling, much lower floor. So would you rather have Fitzpatrick than Tula?

Depends on how your feeling is on. Risk aversion. If you're risk averse, you take Tula because he has a higher floor, but maybe a lower ceiling. I don't I don't think you see a four, five, six interception game from Tula. Fitzpatrick, that could be any game. He could also throw that many touchdowns. But, you know, you never know which guy you're going to get week to week, which is fine.

Well, you know, it's just you're going to get and it's going to be glorious. Oh, yeah. Same with the beard. There's going to be a lot of interesting quarterbacks this year. You think? Yeah, I mean, I think it's a bunch of young guys. Sam Darnold's think about the Saints that week. Saints have a crazy quarterback situation. Yeah, who's even who's going to start on that same scene? Is it going to be? No, yeah. Is it going to be?

It has to be James, right? I don't know. You really think it's going to be Taysome Hill? He's a chance. Can he even throw the ball ish? I feel like he's a Cam Newton without an MVP. I feel they do. But I feel like you can throw the ball in spurts.

But I don't think he's going to beat you as a starting quarterback. I think you think that Cam Newton is going to take the pages of the Super Bowl and they're going to win by 14. Yeah, I think Cam Newton's a better throw of the football. But not based on what happened last year, though. And he's already discounted that whole year with a bunch of excuses earlier. Yeah, they're not excuses. They're reasons. Call what you want.

Touchdown Patriots. Fuck you, Steven. Yeah, from Andre Stevenson. Yeah, that's right. He's the new LaGarra block. I guess what? It wasn't a passing touchdown, so it doesn't count, I guess. So the ones they preseason doesn't count in because we're so much better than their backups that we are.

And they're proving it now by fucking running up the score on these Philadelphia Eagles team. Maybe they're just awesome. That was a sweet block by Jakob Johnson there. Right. Yeah. The two you've probably heard this before, but the both teams that went winless for a whole season, both went for no in the preseason. That's true. That's that's an awesome stat.

Yeah, it's fantastic. And both of them are outside of Bogus preseason football. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And every and in the last season game, people were talking about why Belichick didn't challenge. Jakoby Myers had a chance at a catch and they ruled in incomplete, even though it was obviously a catch. Like, why did you challenge it?

And Bel Belichick's answer was because I didn't want to. Fuck out of here. That's like his best of their con time months in the NBA. Yeah, exactly. It was literally because you wanted to see. You want to see his brand new quarterback attempt to third down pass is all it was after what he thought should have been in completion. You know, like, how does he handle that? That's that's all Bill Belichick used.

This is just extended practice for Bill Belichick, just at full speed against a different team. Different games, watching the hard knocks. I have not. I don't. It's on HBO, right? It is. Yeah, I don't have HBO. So which team is it? Cowboys. Yeah, I've been watching it.

Have you watched it, Greg? I yeah, I watch it every year. How is it? I mean, it's it's not as entertaining as some of previous years, like the Rex Ryan year was. Oh, yeah, just so entertaining. But I I just love the show, the premise, even like bad years. I love it.

I've never watched it. Really? I don't have HBO. Dude, it's so good because it's just like, I don't know. It puts players in like. I should just steal your log as people for fucking a decade. It's a deli, it is adorable. Is it? Oh, there's one scene where he's like trying to wrap a present for Dak, because they have

some of the birthdays and like he's like never wrapped the present before. Oh, boy. And he's like watching a YouTube video and he's like giggling to himself and he's just seems like such a nice guy. So it's things like that. You know, like I was kind of thought Zeke was like, whatever. But yeah, I'm like, you know what, Zeke seems like a pretty, pretty awesome. Didn't want to. I don't know if this is from the show or if this is just like something I saw online,

but wasn't there one point where, like, I don't know if it was a preseason game or like a practice where they had fans at it. But one of the offensive linemen put a Zeke jersey on that was like cut off, like above the belly and like ran out onto the field and everybody was cheering for him. And he was doing like the the Feed Me sign and everything. Everyone's like, oh, it's Zeke. They took the hell off it like blatantly wasn't because it was an offensive line

and like guts hanging over his jersey over his over his pants. But he still like had the crop top on. It's fantastic. It's my kind of comedy right there. Yeah, physical, physical comedy, my jam. Yeah, Will Fork was the best for that. I mean, you've seen that, right, Steve? The Will Fork.

I've seen things are not. Yeah, yeah. He was he's probably the best. Ardnark's character. Oh, he's top five that's ever been on the show. He was just electric from start to finish. All right, give me a give me a top five list, Greg. Rex Ryan, without a doubt, is is on there.

Vince Will Fork. Yep. Oh, you know, Tony Romo. I really this is. Yeah, before, like I his reputation was the same thing where it's like, hey, he's can never win the big game. But his charisma really came through when they did the Cowboys one. And then obviously now we know who he is.

Right. And like that makes more sense. But he was interesting. He was one that I was like, oh, wow, this guy is actually like, you know, pretty charming guy. I think James Harrison might have been on one. Oh, yeah, you're scary. That was awesome.

Yeah, he's terrifying. What has happened to Brown last year was ridiculous. Those the one two I've ever seen in Tony Brown and Vince Will Fork. Yeah, those are the clips everybody's seen. What what has happened for the Patriots to do hard knocks because can't like they can they've been able to refuse it forever because they keep making the playoffs or something. I believe that's part of it.

Yeah. Yeah. I think you have to have like three losing seasons in a row or something to be eligible. Yeah. Or not make the playoffs or that. Yeah, there's something like that. Yeah. And you. Yeah. So the Patriots will never do it. It would be ridiculous if they did, though.

It'd be interesting, right? But it feels like Belchak's last year. He's like, all right, fuck it. Here we go. The criteria has three simple prerequisites. Number one, no teams who were in the playoffs in the last two seasons. No teams with a first year head coach. No teams who have which have been featuring a hard knocks in the last 10 years.

Seems fair. I can't imagine that leaves you with a ton of teams. Yeah, I think there's usually like six or something teams that like it could possibly be. Yeah. Well, when the Patriots eligible eligible for this one. No, because they've been the playoffs in the past years. They made the playoffs years of that past two years. Yeah.

So if they miss the playoffs this year, they'd be eligible for next hard knocks. Yes. Oh, so that that begs the question. That's a good hot take. Do they make the playoffs? And it's got to go to the Super Bowl. Do you would you rather than miss the playoffs so you can see them on hard knocks or not? Would you rather than make the playoffs? Because I would pay round or a first round exit.

Right. Yeah. Say they make the wild card losing the wild card or or are eligible to go on hard knocks and participate. Because, you know, if they're ever eligible, they're making them do it. I know. Yet because it would be the highest rated hard knock show ever. I would buy HBO to watch that. It'd probably be awful. I bet Belgium is wicked boring.

I bet he's not. I bet he is. No, they did that. They did a whole behind the funny. They did that's the frustrating part. And he's such a goddamn homer. And then when it comes to Bill Belichick, he's like, no. What? Oh, no, sorry. That's Greg. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I'm the one. Yeah. No, I'm all about because they did they didn't they do like a behind the scenes in 2009. Remember? Yeah. And it was yeah. I don't remember what exactly it was for. I don't know if it was like the pages that did it or like what the reasoning was. But they did it because I was with with Belichick, he like sent a whole bunch of guys home because they like there was a snow day

and they couldn't make it in time. He's like, I just I just don't think I can reach this team because I was the year fourth and two and everything. All right. And I think that was not the year that they got their doors blown off by. By Baltimore. Yeah. In the wildcard, the one that I did the write up of. Julian Edwin was that year, his rookie season. Yeah, find out more on Belichick.

When read this Homer story from the fucking worst, one of the worst playoff losses of the Patriots' dynasty. Right. Belichick actually could be a standup comedian if you want it to be. I'm not thinking. No, it's just jokes are all football related. They're the same fucking ones every year, apparently. Oh, dude.

But I don't think he's the fucking grouch. Everybody thinks he is. I think he is. I don't think he is. Like imagine, I think I'm married to you. You see that? Yeah. Did he sneak? Yeah. Sneaky marriage about that. I did not see that.

All right, Greg, I'm dying to know what week does Mack Jones take his first start? Andy thinks week one. No. When's a 20? 22. Yes, 2022. Maybe even not then. Maybe do we resign Cam? Andy and just roll him and keep back on the venture.

If you win the Super Bowl, yeah, fuck it. Yeah, right. How are you going to bench the Super Bowl quarterback? What I'm saying about my 14 points? What do you get against him? You have to resign him, right? That's what I'm saying. Trade Mac.

Yeah, trade him for, I don't know, wide receiver. When's the buy, do you know? Oh, good question. I don't know. I think it's late in the year. Aren't you stat check, boy, Greg? Not today, buddy. Check's computer breaks. Yeah, technology, I'm not touching anything.

Oh, Greg, how damn it. Fucky rule. All right, I got a I got a question. Who ends up being the most impactful rookie on the team? Impactful rookie. Barrymore. Are we doing a non Mac Jones? No, you can have him in there.

You can put him in there. I don't know what Mac Jones in there, then. I think he's a shot this year. And plays well. Non Mac Jones edition. I like Andy's pick of Barmore. I think he's headed for a chance to be a Foxborough flu year, though. I haven't even seen him yet.

Or maybe they know he's so good. They're just keeping him under wraps. That's an anti take right there. I'm running off. Is it just chill? Steve, would you like a guest spot on Belichick that wins? I'll write the Barmore article. I am high on him for sure.

There you go. Yeah. Well, all they watched of college football last year was the playoffs. And he tore it up on either side of the ball or Mac Jones and Christian Parmore, and then we picked them one and two. True. Yeah. That's cool. School. These are one man Wrecking Crew in those two games. Oh. Andy, you must be in the same as me.

I sure am. Inception. Yes. Oh, guys. No, you're not. Oh, really? Yeah. Inception. I don't know. So I didn't see who defends that pass. But you need to like pause it for about like 15 seconds. It's cable. I can't pause. No, it's Justin Bethel.

What kind of one or Andy? Bullshit TV watching. Justin Bethel. How about live TV? Got to come down with that. Doesn't have it. Jesus. Greg Brown living in the fucking stone age. How about that? Well, you don't even have a fucking DVR, right?

I don't know. You barely has internet cable. I don't even have cable anymore. I took that away. And that's why you have spectrum now, because he stops feeling mine. Yeah, you're so long. That's the only way I could. I like memorized your address because it was part of your passport.

Yeah, it's 1055 Stafford. Oh, I see what you're complaining about. No, yeah. Almost at it. Doesn't look good, though. No, it looks like it hurt. Yeah, he's still down right now. Oh, God.

That looks like a wind knocked out of him, though. I hope so. Yeah. Oh, he had a beat. Yeah. It was there. It's got to catch it. Steve, I got one of your little camera adapters. Oh, yeah.

Uh-huh. Which one? Uh, Zenvo XENVO. OK. I know my camera adapters. It was it was highly rated on Amazon.com. Oh, oh, that looked like it hurt. Yeah. You hit that ground hard.

All right. Pretty suspicious reviews, though. We just started doing that with the podcast. It's just suspicious reviews. Yeah. New hot take. New hot take. Mekila Harry, I.R. So he's not allowed to get treated.

Oh, no, they are. Oh, he's still not. You put your hot take to I.R. and he said, no, he does not make it. He said, I'm allowed to change my hot takes whenever I want as as an editor of. The paths dot when I'm allowed to do whatever I want. He's going to cut this podcast up and remove your.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm only going to do it at the end of the season. So anything that I say is correct stays and everything that I say is wrong will get cut. I guess how we're going to do this. See, I just stand by my hot takes. Josh Allen, he's going to suck again this year. Ryan Tannehill, not a good quarterback.

Dude, those takes ice cold right now. Ice cold. Yeah, right now when they come back, I'm going to let you know. I agree. They're like non-patriots predictions here. All right, yeah, let's let's let's wrap this up on a high note as this happens.

So who regresses the most in the NFL? Are we talking team or player? Player or team. I like team too. Hmm. How about this? We did a over under wind total for every team with my friends, and we're going to bet all the ones that we agree on.

We're going to parlay them together. It's only like four or five right now. Do you want to you want to throw your over under is in there and we'll see. That's the 10 bucks will all pool together. I mean, we're going to go throughout all the teams or just you're going to fire through on. That's going to be boring as radio.

But OK, let's go. You know, like this has been. Nobody's yeah, nobody's listening to this at this point. Anyway, so the fuck rock it. Give it to me. Chiefs, 12 and a half over. Yeah, keep in mind. There's no there's someone does that. Bucking nears 12 over under.

Oh, I think they have the biggest progression this year. Really? I'm sort of with you, Greg. I can't I can't do that. Tom Brady is not going to lose less than 12 games, not with that offense. I mean, offense that good. Yeah, Ravens only because he's there. And it's 11 under.

So everyone's got the under there. Well, actually, Trevor wrote suck me off, which I'm assuming means under. OK. We'll ask him next time we have him on the pod. We should just let's actually see what he said about the lions. The lions are second to last at four and a half. Trevor says under. Oh, wow.

They know we're more than that over. Actually, no, because I got that fucking harder as as a as a coach. But you need caps off. Yeah. Under I change under. Definitely under their wide receiving core is like hilarious, too. Oh, yeah, they don't have anybody right. They got your golf, baby. They don't have a single player you've heard of.

Yeah, they make the Patriots wide receiving core a little ball star. You don't know about Quintet. See this. Come on, dude. Bless you. Oh, Bill's to Kobe, Bill's eleven. Bill's my biggest regression. I'm going Bill's under. Bill's under. I had that as well, but I was the only one everyone else had over.

Greg, I'm giving Josh Allen. I think had the the Jared Goff year. Yeah, you like all of a sudden had like this huge jump in numbers that doesn't really make sense. I'm sorry. Are you on Steve Brown's hot take train? Yes, I know. Not a good quarterback. Maybe, let's go.

I think I shall overrated at this point. Wow. OK. Because you just don't see that happen a lot where. Like his accuracy numbers went up like 11% last year. I mean, he got digs in. That's where it was. That's a great figure that out, you know? Yeah. And he just doesn't strike me as misracrously.

You've got a cannon, obviously, but I feel like teams can figure him out. Rams at 10 and a half over. Really? I think Stafford lights the world on fire in that offense. Under mostly under there is one over there. You know, so we're nine or not feeling that's all right. This is one we can come back and loop around on then, because I feel pretty strong that Stafford is going to be ready.

I think they're I think Stafford's going to do well. I just think the Rams have spent a bunch of money on shit that they don't even they're paying players running play for them early golf. I think they're like an injury or two away from that team. Just fall in the fuck apart. Just fall in the fuck apart, yeah. But the offense is stacked, right?

But again, they're one or two injuries falling apart. They get a good. Yeah, look, look how they struggle when Cooper Cup got hurt last year. Yeah, but. Right. Injury. Niners, 10 and a half as well. This one's tricky.

Yeah, I don't know. I think, I mean, their roster is good enough, but that quarterback is such a question mark. Yeah, I'll go over just because I want to see him do well. Greg, I go under just and only because. There's an extra game this year. I think it'll be like 11 wins. So yeah, I thought under everybody.

That was one of the ones we all agreed on. We all had unders and only in he's got the over. Yeah, talk to me at the end of the season, boys. All right, Cleveland Browns, 10 and over. Well, strong over for me over, over. Didn't even need to hear the number. I had over is all that over in the fold. Yeah, let's hackers at 10 under over.

Aaron Rogers doesn't finish the season. How's that for a fucking hot take? He agreed on as well. Aaron Rogers doesn't finish the season. How's that for I hate Aaron Rogers as much as anybody on this planet? The 10 seems ridiculous. See, well, right?

That's a little low. It doesn't look. Keep going. Seahawks, 10. Sneaky under. Yeah. Yeah, we had a little mix there. I had said over.

OK, I think Wilson's he's he's been talking about wanting to get out of town, too. Has any. Yeah, it's content cook. That's what I do. That is a ball out, though. This content, you know, but they don't let him. He wanted to do that last year.

Remember, they're like, let Russ cook. Yeah, he had that one game where he took five picks and then they just didn't throw it. Right. Right. Patriots, nine and a half over under. We all had over Greg under nine and a half. Yeah. But the extra game through quarterback play doesn't matter.

The last four teams that have the last four teams that have spent the most money in the off season on free agents. Of average, five and a half more wins. The next season probably terrible teams, though. No, they were like mediocre. One was the Dolphins last year, the Jets the year before. The Bears and then the Jags. The Jaguars were garbage.

Then we're mediocre, but the other teams went from mediocre to good. Over calling it next. Chargers nine and a half. Chargers nine and a half over just because they got a new coach who's not a fucking idiot. And he's cutting the green here big time. That's fine. Dolphins also nine and a half under Dolphins.

Chargers, Pats, all the same odds under. I think the Dolphins are as well. Dolphins, would you say nine and a half? I'm going to go under because I don't trust to. Yeah, that's my thought. Saints, nine under under. Yeah, I was under as well. I think they're going to be one crazy cap situation there, too.

Yeah, they're fucking. Yeah, and they don't have a starting quarterback still. So I hope it's chain is still so we can get another year of his antics. And what's his name? Michael, what's his name? He wants out the wide receiver Thomas. Yeah, he wants out the path scooped Michael Thomas for cheap over. That would do it over, Greg.

Who's going to throw it to him? There's Michael Thomas could catch passes from me. Fair 70 balls in a season. On nothing but slants. Yeah, Titans, nine games. Over over. Yeah, Steve, you even picked the over, even though Tana Hill's going to struggle.

Yeah, the rest of the team would carry him. Colts, nine games as well. Oh, under. Yeah, we had we had we feel good about those two. The Colts under nine in the Titans over nine. Great. They had the same odds. I think Colts aren't that good.

No, Cowboys are at nine as well. Cowboys at nine under. I don't trust the Cowboys ever over because their division sucks. Well, that's fair split Vikings also at nine. That feels like a team is ready to implode you and they have a lot of talent. Yeah, I think so, too. Under under. That's another one we all had the same on.

That's a parlay bet right there. OK, what else? Steelers, eight and a half under. I think they confirm Big Ben is playing. You think it under? Your big that's thirty nine. Yeah, and fall in the fucking party. He doesn't last a season either under the other guy that backs him up.

You'll watch the Hodges Crack, Crack, Crack, Mr. Hodgins. No, they got to ask us. Crack, Crack, Crack, Crack, Crack. It's a good fit. I get I had the over on that. And they're 20 askings. And they got what you mean, askings. I see Harris is a good fit for that offense.

Yeah, I think so, too. But I don't know what you mean, askings. It gives you maybe one more win. You get it, askings. I get it because you get it. Who else knows eight and a half under over over. I think they're they win the division. Yeah, I think I do.

I don't get why they're eight and a half. I think they should be hard to. Because the Kings were as an idiot. The. Washington football team under over. The line yet, Andy, what if I said four? Don't worry about team. We're all over on that as well. I think it's going to be a real deal.

You know, are you just saying how much you left? It's magic. You know, it's a quarterback, right? Wait, what was that? What was the number? Eight and a half win them nine games. All right, maybe you can't have a line. You've convinced me over.

But they're all going to be blowouts only the other. Yes. But our point differential is going to be zero. But they're going to they're going to win or lose every game by at least two touchdowns. Broncos, eight and a half as well under under. They're going to be garbage. Bears, seven and a half over over.

I'd under. I think there's no one's that was a tough. You have no idea how good they were a good team, except for their quarterback. And even Andy Dalton's an upgrade. Well, it's not going to be just fields. It's going to be awesome. Eventually. Yeah, but. And he thinks you can't start either way in three years after you drive. No, you can.

But they're talking over and get the fuck out according to Andy. That's right. Absolutely. As it should be. Look at look at the the track record. Carolina Panthers seven and a half under over. Sam Donald. Sam Donald is probable.

Not a chance. Sam Donald's don't know. Make some probable. Greg, you just said that's a hot take. It's hotter than my fucking ice cold. Right. That's a lot. Shallot takes good.

They make a pretty good. He's going to be healthy. And I can't wait to hold this over your head. And that is my Anderson. They have a connection from Winnie's with the Jets. He played really well. We're going to have to write all these down and do a recap at the end. We have a fucking and they still got DJ Moore.

That team is like pretty stacked. Yeah, they have a good coach. I think they're going to get better. They're better last year than the year before. Look out for the Panthers. You just say that because you live in North Carolina. We're going to have Bobby on. We're going to see if they listen to much sports talk radio down there.

Yeah, right. They are very positive. It's hilarious. It's weird. Yeah, they're way more optimistic about their team. Oh, they can be optimistic. But as soon as I start throwing hot takes, I'm a fucking homer. All right, Falcons, seven and a half under under.

They don't have Julio anymore. Fuck it under a lot of points. So maybe worse defense and we they'll blow a whole bunch of leads. It's going to be great. Raiders seven under. I don't trust that because I love John Gruden under because everyone's sleeping on the Raiders here under because of John Gruden. I think he's hysterical, but he's a terrible coach.

He's still stuck in the fucking early 2000s to have like any plan. Right. Yeah, there's no. Yeah, that team has no identity. Yeah. And you're like, Jacobs is good, but he's not going to. And Waller tight end is amazing, but they don't utilize them correctly. Yeah. Yeah, they seem to have like good players that have popped up, but there's no coaching holds them back. So he's like, here's how we play.

Yeah, speaking of Giants seven over under. I'm with Daniel Jones doesn't have it, right? He's a lead. He's talking about where it's I think he'll be OK this year because he's got say one back. Who's the backup there? Who knows? Well, I want to know how long they'll let him stay out there

and throw picks and fumbles. Oh, it'll be all day. He's these areas. Golden boy saying he leads the league in turnovers this year. He's our Eli. Mm hmm. Jags six and a half over under. We had all had to under here, Greg.

That fucking yeah, that head coach is going to fucking don't believe it. Not your one. Have you seen his records in college, though? I don't care. He's like 181 in like 23 or something. Yeah, he's just he's yeah. Welcome to NFL. He's going to have 23 losses this season alone.

Something in the NFL as well. Do you think Trevor Lawrence will play well, Andy? I think they play well enough. I don't I don't think I don't think it'll be enough to to make a difference in the win loss. Yeah, your roster is a lot more away than Trevor Lawrence. I'm sure it'll be good, though. Bangles, six and a half.

Over tough one. It is. It's going to be right around there. Yeah, it's going to be between six and seven games. Yeah, I would say they win six games. I said they win seven over. Yes, sir. I think they're in it if if Joe if Joe Barrow stays healthy. I think they all had the Bengals over here, except for you guys.

They didn't fix the offensive line, though. Eagles, yeah, they did trap Jamar Chase. They know, but you got to be able to protect Barrow to get it to Jamar. I agree. They should have taken Sea Wilder. Oh, well, Eagles, six and a half under. Why don't you don't believe in Jalen Hurts? No, no, I've been watching some YouTube videos about his mechanics and his decision making and very poor.

Let me tell you, see, that's the number I think you're bullshitting. But I actually know you're not bullshitting. You're sitting there in a fucking one in the morning watching. And it's great. Yeah, he's the first guy. And apparently, like. Like a lot of that success from last year just came from like scramble and like play breakdowns.

And really, he like people think he played well, but the Eagles are just so bad before that that it seems like it looked better. Yeah, I like that. And I love hitting on the Eagles after having them beat us in the Super Bowl and talking so much trash. So I will go under, even though I don't even remember what the number was. Six and a half. Great. Fine. Don't care. Under.

Speaking of Jets, six under. Right. They're going to be an absolute dumpster. They just have I think they just lost like two of their like their highest offseason signing went down in the ACL MCL. Name, name, five more players on the on the Jets. Zach, what's his face? The quarterback.

Yeah, no, Elijah Woods. I got nothing left. Agil, not to bring shopper. It's something like that. He's good. Yeah, right. Jamal at Robbie. And no, Marcus May.

Marcus May. Sam Dodd. Name a linebacker. CJ Mosley. Did they get him? Yeah, we got hurt first year. They be on bet. Oh, no.

Oh, Joe Flat. Oh, no. No. No. Joe, name it. He does see this. Joe, Joe, name it. They come through that door.

Who else is Black? The Jets are a game and a half better than the Lions. No, they're running big. You tell me. Frank Gore. No, well, maybe I don't get. I don't get how the Jets are a game and a half better. That they're not, which is why we just went under.

Next, we have to put this. Lions at four and a half over. Lions, four and a half over. I think they come out hot and then lose every game after order back after week five. Yeah, Texan Ryan, four under. Four. Texans are a dumpster fire.

If they win a game, I'll be shocked. Wow, wow, wow. Oh, and 17 under. Yeah, maybe one game. All right, that's all. Do they play the Lions? The only ones we agree on here are the Jets. Makes sense.

That feels right for this pod. The Breskin slash Washington football team slash whatever's OK, Vikings. OK, nine games. Are they even going to bother naming that team? Or are we just going to be a football team? They keep they keep saying they keep threatening to name it. I heard Red Hogs.

The Indians did it like right away. Yeah, midseason. Yeah, well, this is Dan Snyder. We're talking about Big Doug Colts under nine Titans over nine. Yeah, I don't know for you. So you said the Patriots. He thought we were going to go under nine and a half. Greg said under.

Yeah, he's an asshole. That's it. Well, Ravens under 11, assuming suck me off means under Greg. Do you want you want to put a jersey bet on the Patriots? Over under over under. Yeah, sure. Nine. All right. Chinese Jersey. Yeah.

Yeah, of course. All right. Nine and a half. Nine and a half. That's fine. I'll give you the half. I get to pick the player, though, if I lose. All right, there's our parlay. Was I get to pick the team then?

I should net us some nice money. All right, I got the I got the Jets roster up in front of me. All right, this is it before we put this this. Why like the Jets injury reserves? We're going to put this to bed after you give us starting cornerbacks. Yeah, Bryce Hall and bless Austin. Oh, bless. Oh, good.

OK, so that's a real NFL player. T.J. Mosey. Yes, it is. I can't answer Nasir al-Deen. OK, is this the starting linebacker linebackers? John Franklin Meyers, Folo Runsoo, food to food, talk to see. Is that one name or we we have multiple names there? That's two names. Yeah, it's first and no, it's first and last. John Franklin Meyers is one person in

Folo Runsoo, Folo Runsoo, Fattucasi. So this feels like a mad and generated team. No. Seamus and Crowder. So Keelan Cole is starting at wide receivers. Oh, Brexton Barrios is. Yes, first. He's going to make that roster, baby.

Corey Davis. No, Corey Davis. He could be with you. Mackay back in the jet. Yes, that's right. Oh, right. Greg Van Rotten. Dude, that sounds like that sounds like a punk band from the 80s. I was in a punk band. That was my name.

Exactly. Greg Van Rotten. Such a bad boy. Good. That's a guy that trashes hotel rooms when he's on. Oh, 100%. Oh, yeah. 100%. I have a pierced lip, dude. Yeah, yeah. And like, like a ball thing through the nose as well.

Greg Van Rotten. Right, God, dude, I'm buying this guy's jersey. If I win the jersey bet, I want to get it. All right, done. It's a jazz one, but that's fine. That's fine, dude. Van Rotten. And I want the whole name on the back.

Obviously. Not just Van Rotten, I want Greg. Greg Van Rotten, OK. Done. Oh, dude, he had a mullet, too. Obviously, he did. This guy looks long. You didn't have to tell me that.

That was what I was picturing in my head already. Yeah, right guard Greg Van Rotten almost certainly has a mullet. Undoubtedly. All right. Anything else before? I'm calculating. I'm calculating in our parlay.

Andy, who's your biggest? Who's your who's who's a player that everyone's hyped on that you think is going to be terrible? That's a great question, Greg. Yeah, I don't know. Who's everyone hyped on? We got the NFL MVP odds.

Sure. Kelly wants me to bring it up. I heard. All right, my homes, Rogers, Josh Allen, Brady, Prescott, Lamar Jackson, Matt Stafford, Russell Wilson, Herbert is a good one. Rogers Rogers.

Rogers, Aaron Rogers. Come on, Andy. He's going to be a fraud this year. That is not real. No, I don't think he finishes the season. I already said this once. What? Because he plays poorly. We're far something.

I think we're past the point of, like, predicting he's a bust. No, I'm not saying he's going to be a bust. It's a hot take for Andy. Aaron Rogers will be a bust. Joe Barrow. Give me one of these guys, like a newer guy, right? So, like, Kyler Murray, Justin Herbert, Joe Barrow.

These are all guys that I said Jalen Hurts, he's my bust, right? Right, Sam Darnold. He's not really people. Yeah, Sam Darnold is definitely going to be a bust. To. Yeah, I throw two in that category. Josh Allen.

OK, I think we're on the Josh Allen train. I and Tana Hill. And we'll let me parlay them together. That's fine. What do you think about a sneaky coming back to earth from the the chiefs? I think so. People are talking about them going undefeated already.

There's no way that happens. And I'm almost to the he is really good. But I just something about it doesn't feel sustainable. Yeah, yeah. I thought they had a good first round or two. Who do I remember? Running back, maybe. I don't know.

Thoughts on Joe Barrow. No thoughts on Joe Barrow. Thumbs up. Thumbs up, me too. He gets he's got the he's got the look when I talk about like a rookie, even though the team sucks. To me, he had the look. I agree. Joe Barrow is he seems to have it.

Well, you're talking about the like you're saying, Greg, when you said some guys don't have it, some do. And he seems to. Yeah, even Andrew Luck. I remember Andrew Luck's first year. He sucked. But you were like, OK, yeah, they would be way worse if he wasn't in there.

And you know, who else has that? Hever. Yeah, I'm not I'm not quite sold on him. Maybe because he just played when the Pats played and we just dominated. And that was really the only time I watched the full game. But I had him on my fantasy team. He was awesome. Yeah.

Yeah, he did put up crazy numbers. He did. Yeah, he looked good. All right. I think this is going on long enough. I think we should end this. Who really in the first half? Elliott rushing champion.

Steve, one last hot take. Because he's adorable when you when he raps presents. Love it. My not so hot take is in. He's going to be wrong on every single one of his hot takes. And if I'm not. I'll give you a hug. All right.

So find out next. Well, find out probably six months from now. Whether or not my hot takes are correct next season. Yeah. Write them all down on the pages. I took down notes. Dynasty podcast. Save those notes, Steve, and we will revisit them.

When the time is correct. Otherwise, we'll see you next time back in 2004. Yeah, on the Patriots. The Austin bills make the playoffs. Yeah, OK, fair. The bills will not stay in Buffalo. Love it. I can get behind that.

That'd be great from the hit. We didn't really take us home there, Greg. Yeah, that was that was the that was the hottest take of all night. Well done, finishing on a high note, if you will. We'll see you next week. Let's go. We are on the lawyer, baby. Patriots.

Dynasty podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.