Patriots Dynasty Podcast - Bonus Episode: Christmas!

Episode Date: December 21, 2021

Things are busy in the world of the Brown brothers, so no game recap this week. Instead you get to hear the boys spreading some holiday cheer! Join the brothers for a rare look into the future of the ...dynasty as well as the past, including:A look back at the coldest Patriot games on record, including some good ones.Steve still doesn't understand the idea of a snake draft, but here's the Christmas song draft resultsGreg: "Christmas in Hollis" Run DMC"Rudolph the Rednose Reindeer (pizzazz lines version)" by Walter F. Haigh elementary school chorus"Baby It's Cold Outside" by Dean Martin"Christmas All Over Again" by Tom Petty"This is Our House" by Gillette StadiumSteve: An entire Christmas CD"Santa Claus is Coming to Town""I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus"Andy: "All I Want for Christmas is You" by Mariah Carey"Chipmunks Christmas Song" by the Chipmunks"We Wish You a Merry Christmas" by Momma BrownSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast, as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny. But really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Patriots' Dynasty podcast. The podcast where we normally re-watch every game of the Patriots' Dynasty and tell you about them in full detail. It is me, your host, Andy Brown, and with me today are the brothers, Brown, Steve and Greg, who are actually there together. How you doing, boys? Yeah, Greg paid me to be here. I'm only here so I don't get fined. We have one
Starting point is 00:00:46 microphone between the two of us. Two to do is one mic. It should be a fucking eventful. Hey, you boy got a snuggling close so we can hear you both. I want your heads to touch. Can you hear me now? Yes. Is this us, God? Oh, God. This is great radio. This is radio. I thought this was a podcast. It is. That's a type of radio. Two guys, one candy cane. I have so many questions, but none. We're going to meet in the middle, Andy. Big turns. Have you seen the lady in the tramp? Steve's the tramp. That feels right. You're a no lady. I don't know. It's supposed to be nice to be Greg. It's Christmas. Yeah, what the fuck, Greg?
Starting point is 00:01:33 The Christmas episode. Yes. So normally we would be doing a game, but I will put my hand up in full transparency. I have not had time to do any prep for this. So we are winging it today. We're doing a Christmas episode because it's almost Christmas. It is December 16th. So we're getting close. It is the season. It is the season. So, yeah, I Greg had some ideas on what he wanted to do for for the podcast. So, Greg, what do you got for us? Well, I figured we'd start by you telling me how you've been getting festive this year, Andy. Oh, that's a good question. You're nice. Both. So let's see. This past weekend, we had Christmas brunch with some friends where I got to wear my Christmas onesie.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Classic. Yep. The the one it's it's a naughty Christmas onesie. So it only gets to come out once a year. And it says more in public. I have worn it in public before, but that is now frowned upon in this establishment because I am quote unquote an adult and I shouldn't be wearing this sort of stuff. And I may have to get retired because I don't know if we've announced this on the podcast, but I am my wife is pregnant and we are having our first child and end of January. So it may have to get retired after that because it has swear words on it. And so we're not going to. Oh, hey, the swear words. Your kid, your kid won't be able to read till like 15. Yeah. What if those reindeer is doing to each other? You know, they're just cuddling.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah, no, they they they're very cuddly the rangers on it. So so that's how I've gotten in the spirit. What about you guys? Steve is wearing his Christmas hat right now already. Yeah, I've been wearing this Patriot sand hat every December, every single day of December for years now. It's great this Christmas time. No one knows you haven't showered. I'm going to say they do smell right. Well, it's not immediately obvious by viewing me. You're such a disgusting creature habit. It's the worst. Well, I've been watching tons of like shitty hallmark.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Oh, Christmas movies. What's your favorite so far? Well, they're all the same. That's the thing. It is literally every every trope is in every goddamn one of them. It's like the uptight successful lawyer from the big city. The lady lawyer has to go to like a small town and she meets like hardworking, humble guy who wears a lot of carpet, but they initially don't get along. And then there's always she has always some lie going on where she's pretending she's someone she's not. That's different every one, but there's always a lie. And then she falls in love with them. And then he finds out about the lie and then gives her because it gives her because it's Christmas. And then the whole she bang bang.
Starting point is 00:04:37 There's always charity involved. Every single one of these fucking movies, there's there's only some sort of charity function and it drives me crazy. So should we write a Patriots themed one? Yeah, we could we could do that. The charity can be for kids who can't read good or do other stuff good as well. So we could do it. We could do it. We didn't make a lot of progress on our other book project, though. That's true. I still have that up, though. Do you have on my computer? Yeah. How many pages into it? Are you a page and a half? For those that don't remember, this is our Bill Belichick erotic fiction. It's it's on my computer. It's Untitled Patriots,
Starting point is 00:05:19 erotica title. I thought we decided it was going to be Bill Belichick. No, we decided that everybody writes a chapter so you can take it wherever the hell you want. Interesting. So I'm going to set myself up to do that and then not do it again. You already did. Yeah, you were supposed to go first. Yeah, nothing. I feel like that we couldn't top that Cam Newton erotica one. So I I'm fairly confident we could. What about a Christmas erotica because that's what's missing from these movies and is penetration, graphic penetration, preferably my elves and penetration puns. There has to be lots of puns in there. Yes. Yes. Shitting holiday cookies. All right. So what do we got in the
Starting point is 00:06:10 docket here? We got we're going to go over the Patriots, call this games. I'm correct. In history, we're going to do a snake draft of Christmas songs. Did you prepare for that at all, Andy? I did not. Steve, did you? I can't even remember a song's lyrics. Okay. Well, I guess I could just list mine because I have a bunch. Okay. We can do Christmas experiences too. You know, like a sleigh ride or something. You're going to power rank them? Yeah. Okay. The same thing as a draft. And then we can do some predictions for the rest of the year as we're currently in week 15. And everybody knows once Christmas comes, that's when the NFL really gets serious.
Starting point is 00:06:58 That's right. It starts playing well. Yeah, that's that's when you the teams are who they're going to be. Yeah. Yes. The dregs filtered to the bottom. Yes. Urban Meyer, like the Jack Marzia. Urban Meyer noted dregs. Yes. Yes. Noted bottom. Noted bottom. Oh my goodness. So is that that has to be the first time a coach has gotten fired midway through his first season? That's a good question. That is a good question. Not that I can remember. He's the only one I can think of, but he quit. He just left halfway through. Savin' left after like a year and a half? Something like that. Yeah. He didn't get fired though. So this may be... I saw a list of the shortest terms of head coach employment.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Shortest on our list. Bill Belichick, one day head coach of the New York Jets. That's pretty good. Well, let's use that as our launching point into the Patriots' coldest games or any of them more degrees than Urban Meyer has weeks coaching in the NFL. Or has wins. Yeah. Okay. So let's see what we got. Yeah. I have a list here. I'm assuming, Greg, you have the same list. Yeah. You want to start at 10? Start at 10. Okay. Where's number 10? Okay. I see. I have two. They're tied for 10. You guys are looking different. We're at the same list. Oh, yeah. Okay. Good. All right. So number 10, January 10, 2015. Oh, this was a good one. This was
Starting point is 00:08:41 not just one of the coldest games, but also one of the best games. Yeah. That's the down 14 twice. Right? Yeah. It's the New England Patriots, Baltimore Ravens, AFC, Divisional, I think it was. Yep. I think the main name for this game is Edelman to Amondola. Yeah. Yeah. Or when they ran the tight end pack. Yeah. Learning the playbook. Yeah. Learning the playbook. That's right. Yeah. There's a bunch in this game. That game is awesome. Yeah. Yeah. And the song that everybody's singing halfway through too. By the way, now to get us off track, have you guys been watching Man in the Arena? I've watched the first two. I have not. I'm saving them all, but I heard the fourth one was really
Starting point is 00:09:25 hard to watch. Oh, dude, it's the best one though. Is it? Oh, so it's, it's better like, it's better drama than the other ones. Like the other ones. That's fair. Probably because of like re-watched a bunch of like those Superbowls. So I kind of know all the plays. There's one for every Superbowl. Okay. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So the one. Yeah. The 17 and one was, I had forgotten. 18 and one. Yeah. 18 and one. Yeah. So I'm going to have to gear myself up for that, I think. It was, it was a, it was a trip, but like there's one scene in the middle where they have, they're playing Queens. Another one bites the dust as they're crushing through teams and it's just this sick montage that was Goosebumps City. Dude, I was like, pop, pop, pop. Oh yeah. I'm excited
Starting point is 00:10:18 to get to the 2007 season. Yeah. Most of it. Yeah, but I'm not such a great team. Do you think there'll be more Man in the Arena's made than Urban Meyer has week's coaching? Not if they're doing it for every Superbowl. Yeah, they're gonna have to keep going, right? 10. Well, Tommy Brason. Also, Tommy gets a little cussie in it. He's, he's dropping F-bombs, dropping S-bombs. Wow. Yeah. I can see him being a fiery character. Yeah, a couple of hard Rs. Wait, what? Just kidding. Be crazy. Jesus. All right. So number nine. All right. Oh, do you want to say the temperature in that? Oh, it's 20 degrees. 20 degrees. This is game time. And both of those, at least, what was the
Starting point is 00:11:08 type, the other type one? 2010. Patriots vs Ravens. Oh, that's when they lost from the playoffs and they had Ray Rice at first play. Right there was that hole. I was like, sunny in the day. It was January. One was that night, like a nighttime playoff game. It was a daytime. That was also, yeah, it's true. That was also the first time Edelman was at Julian Edelman in that game. He had that. He converted a fourth down on a wide receiver screen while like fighting through five guys. And they called back for holding and then he converted it again. I avoid Jules. Boy, the monster. Yeah. So that's when I fell in love with Julian Edelman. It was that day. That was the only good thing to come out of that game. All right. Number nine.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Oh, I remember this game, too. This was not a great game, I don't think. But I remember it being super fucking cold. December 18, 2016. New England Patriots at the Denver Broncos. Mile high. Game temperature. Game time temperature, 18 degrees. I don't remember this game at all. So it was the same amount of degrees. This is, yeah, I believe the only play of note in this was the Patriots recovering a muffed punt by the Broncos early on and scoring a touchdown off of it. And then like that was the only score. Yeah, the game ended 16-3. Not much in that. I feel like we're the ones muffin punts in Denver. Yeah, well, that's probably on this list, too. It might be a little higher, but yeah, that was a rough game.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah, that's higher up. That's number 19. That was the Brock Oswiler game. I don't want to think about that game. No. All right. Well, we're sticking in Denver for number eight. This is all the way back in 1991. So before Steven remembers football. Oh, you remember this game, Andy? All right. This was probably the game where mom was yelling at the TV about John Elway rip his fucking leg off, I believe. Steve Young, Andy. It was not. No way Andy remembers this game. There's no way. He was like five. It could have been this. Well, I remember her yelling at the TV. It could have been this game. Steve Young. 1991. Patriots lose 20 to three to the Broncos and John Elway. Yeah. They're still in the old uniforms at this point.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Yeah. Both teams are the old uniforms. Those are both dope uniforms. I wouldn't mind seeing Denver go back to those, especially the helmets. These are more recent. It's funny because they always tell us that the earth is warming. I've seen that. There's a lot of recent games have been called. Or maybe Patriots are playing more games recently in January and February. I think that's probably it. Yeah. Because this game from 1991 was December 1st. All right. Number seven. New Year's Eve, 2017 against the Jets. Game time temperature, 13 degrees. Patriots win 26 to 6. Lockup home field advantage in the playoffs. Well, Bryce Petty. James Harrison gets two sacks. Oh, I remember this game. Yeah. The Jets
Starting point is 00:14:38 had already given up on the season at this point. I remember this. Yeah, they're starting Bryce Petty. Of course, they're fucking giving up. All right. Number six. We got a 1977 Schaefer stadium. 12.7 degrees. Of course, we can win against Miami. It's been tough to sit there. Yeah. Sitting on the metal bleachers. Oh, those are the Patriots of the 70s. The Patriots scored two touchdowns in the first quarter and sat on the lead. Yeah. That was a long. There was. Oh, this was another low passing game. There wasn't much passing involved for the Patriots. Steve Grogan finished six of 10 on the day similar to a game we've watched recently against the AFC East divisional foe compared to 51 handoffs.
Starting point is 00:15:28 51 running plays versus 10 pass. Yeah. How many running plays did the Patriots run against the Bills this year? 42 or something like that? Yeah, it's 40 something. Yeah. That's what I thought. I mean, 51 handoffs. That's just like, that's the game plan. Imagine watching that in person. It's freezing. It's what is it? 13 degrees, he said. He's sitting on a metal bleacher. He scored two touchdowns early. You're all excited. And then they just hand the ball off the entire time. The rest is the game. It's like what it was like involved. Just make it end. I literally went to that game two weeks ago. Yeah. How was it? No, but I'm saying you just described the game. I just went. You just wanted to be over so miserable. No, I enjoyed it. Love that.
Starting point is 00:16:15 All right. Number five. 1989 Patriots hosting the Rams from Los Angeles. 12.4 degrees. 12.4. Oh, the L.A. Rams before they're the new L.A. Rams. Correct. Yeah. The original L.A. Rams. Gotcha. Don't remember anything from that? Nope. Oh, Andrew remembers it. Still a grogan game. January 2005 at Pittsburgh. 11 degrees. Oh, so this was a playoff game. It's gotta be, yeah. Oh, five. Oh, yes. It would be all five. Oh, yeah. So this is, this is, oh, you're right. Because you're avenging the loss from when they broke up the street. Yeah. So we'll get back to this one. Doesn't Brady have the flu or something in this game, too? They all do. Yeah. And Tom Brady said it's the best game that they ever played.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Most complete, most complete, like, ruthless victory. Final score? 41 to 27 pass. Just a shit kick in. They were like 15 and one at that point, too. They were like, they only had one loss. Rookie Ben Rossberger. Rookie Big Bear. Yeah, I don't think Ben Rossberger had lost the game in his career up to that point because that one loss was their first week of the season. And then he came in in the second game or something. I love that. Beautiful. All right. Number three. Do you remember this one, Andy? 1963 Boston Patriots. I do. Like it was the back of my hand. At Kansas City, 9.2 degrees. Woof. Got shellac 35 to 3.
Starting point is 00:18:01 That's a mystery city. Kansas City is like a sneaky cold place, I feel. Right? It's kind of in the south, you'd think. Missouri? It's got an American school system. Kansas City is in Missouri. Well, no, Kansas City is in two states, isn't it? Well, it's not in Kansas. That's why it's confusing. It's on the border of Kansas and Missouri. Yes. Yeah. Wait, I thought it was Missouri and Mississippi. Mississippi. Wrong geographical region altogether. Wow. All right. Number two. We've gone over this one. January 10, 2004 against the Titans. Game time temperature, four degrees. Woof. And like these, these like playoff ones are, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:51 you know, they're late at night, too. They're not, you know, negative 11. That's right. I remember that. I remember this game being super physical, too. Like everyone was hitting each other hard. Yeah. This was the, this was the game that Bethel Johnson caught that long touchdown, wasn't it? Yeah, right. Started off. Yeah. I think Willie McGinnis was credited with a sack on whoever their Titan was at the time. Why check maybe because they threw a pass to him and like he stepped back as if he was going to pass and he just didn't get blocked. McGinnis got a sack on the Titan. How about a fryer move? Is there a better Titan name than Friar Moose? That's a good one. I thought it was Pfeiffer Moose, but not Pfeiffer Moose, man.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I remember Friar Moose did. We got to trade for that bastard. Yeah, that's a great name. Good. He's really good. All right. Number one, 1989 Patriots at Steelers, three Rivers Stadium, Game Time Temperatures, 3.0 degrees. Yikes. I'm pretty sure my freezer doesn't get down at that temperature. That's fucking cold. So it's what? At Pittsburgh, at New England, at Kansas City. Yeah. That was really it. At Denver. The surprise is no at Buffalo. So am I actually. I know there's been some cool games at Buffalo. We're at like Minnesota or something, I guess. Oh, at Buffalo is number 12. It's right outside the top 10. 1963. I had for 17, 2013 Patriots first paint manning. I was just at this game.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Oh, yeah. That was it. Wasn't that the game where you were in the nosebleeds and you had a beer and you had to drink it before it froze? Well, I didn't finish it because it froze in my hand. And they were down 24, nothing at halftime. And Meeta was like, we're leaving. And I was like, let's give them one drive in the second half. Yep. All the way back and one over time. They sure did. And it was me. I think Welker must have punted that game, right? And over they took the wind. Was that that game all and over time? Yes. That's right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Because the pages took the wind. I don't think Welker muffed it, but he called off it late and it bounced and hit somebody and hit somebody else.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Exactly. That was awesome. The worst thing I was saying, these are all like game time temperature coldest ranking. But like, what is like the real feel? Well, what's the wind chill? It's not like they had real feel back in the 70s. The one o'clock games versus like an eight PM game are totally different. Are they a lot colder from eight till midnight than it will from one to four? That's true. It's a good point. Andy, it's a given season. Greg's giving compliments. Not to me. You guys getting some snow up there, Andy? We're supposed to get snow tomorrow, yes. Yeah. What are you going to get?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Saturday. Ploughable is what they're calling it. Ploughable. He's all choked up about it. So happy. It's okay, Andy. We'll be there soon. All right. Christmas songs, snake draft. Okay. Kelly just walked by and gave me the dirtiest look. I can't imagine what. He's got damn great. She is not wearing anything Christmas themed. How dare she? Neither is Greg. All right. He wants to start us off. Oh, I'll start us off. Yeah. Yeah. You clearly have the most
Starting point is 00:22:47 With my first overall pick, I'm going with Christmas in Hollis by Run DMC. Oh, that is the best one. Everybody knows it. That's pretty good. It's not cheap. Well, it is cheesy, but it's kind of listenable. It's a great song. All right. My second round pick is going to be anything off the now. That's what I call Christmas. Well, you don't even know it's called. So, and half of my list is from that stuff. What is it called? A very special Christmas. Yes. Yes. I feel like it's the same people who did the now. That's what I call whatever music was. And that was essentially the same thing where they got celebrities or like
Starting point is 00:23:24 popular singers at the time to do Christmas songs. This is where that Run DMC song came from, right? Correct. From that album. Yes. So everything on that album is my second round pick. So good luck, Greg. Okay. I don't think you can do that. I'm just dead. So for somebody who says he's the most Christmas guy here, Steve. Yeah. Not being able to name one Christmas song is not a good look. You guys are looking like schlubs, but you don't even have lights on your house. You don't even know it's Christmas, right? I bet you don't even have a Christmas tree up in your house.
Starting point is 00:23:57 He doesn't. He doesn't. Look at that shit. We're not going to work on for two weeks. I could be home for one day in December. I would have a Christmas tree up. Okay. Yeah. It's about putting it up. That's the fun part. Yeah. That's right. Drinking some nog, getting real eggy. Na na na na na na na. Eggy, druggy. Get no you wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Have yourself a very eggy Christmas. Okay. That's clearly great. I'm going to pick all I want for Christmas is you, the Mariah Carey version. Yeah. I mean, that's the sexiest Christmas song there is. Well, and it's just everyone loves that. Everybody. Yeah. Okay. You know how popular that is, right, Andy? Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Like she, it's like, it hits like the top 10 billboards every single year and she makes so much royalties off that thing. Oh yeah. Every single year. It's super catchy though. Like you can be as tough guys as you want, but if you don't admit that that song slaps and Taylor Swift, shake it off, slaps, then you're lying to yourself. You're singing along to both of them if you're in the car by yourself.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Both of those songs, you can hear them a million times as soon as they come on. You're like, yeah, this is Jim. Taylor Swift needs a Christmas song is what really needs to happen. I'll bet she does. Not one that slaps. Yeah. Clearly not. We're not talking about it. All right. I'll just see it. Well, no, Andy's going again.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Oh, that's right. No, he just went with Mariah Carey. Yeah. Yeah. It's a snake trap, Steve. Good Lord. We have to get like snakes involved. So good at this. You're almost as good at this as you are at Christmas.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I'm going to pick the chipmunks Christmas song. So bad. He's going off to the end of the spectrum. All right. Exactly. I agree. The chipmunks Christmas one is so bad. It's universally hated.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah. But if you're if you are under the age of 10, you fucking love that song until you turn 10. Fair enough. Fair enough. So I'm getting both ends of the spectrum here. Wait till you hear the shit I'm about to hit you with. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Oh, geez. I'll stick with you. Steve's up next. I find that song weird. All right. For mine, speaking of when you were 10, remember in like chorus, when you do Rudolph the Red Nose Rainier
Starting point is 00:26:14 and they let you add the pizzazz lines in it. Yeah. Like you'll go down in history like George Washington. Like Pinocchio. Yeah. The teacher used to like let you say it. You have to sing it once regular. And then she'd let all the kids sing it with this.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I thought that was a real song. That's pretty good. Yeah. Shout out Walter F.A. Walter F.A. That was the first name that guy, Walter. Walter F.A. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:46 So it's me again. All right. I am going to go with it. Maybe it's cold outside just because everyone hates that one. That was problematic, Craig. Wicked problematic. I actually looked up the lyrics.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Can you search this for me, Steve? Yeah, they're rough. Because I want to read a couple to you. It's just like ever so slightly rapey, which is the problem, I think. The whole thing. Kelly has a problem with it from downstairs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah. Let's see. I feel like it's like an old time song, though, right? Isn't it like? Yeah, it's super old timey. But the whole premise of the song is like he's saying you should stay. And she's like, I should leave.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And then she says like, say what's in this drink? What's in this drink, dude? And she's like, I shouldn't go. And he's like, well, maybe just a half a drink more. And then by the end, I'm pretty sure they bang. And she's like, I'm really going to regret this one. But and she's all like, what will other people think? He's like, who the fuck cares?
Starting point is 00:28:00 My sister will be suspicious. And then his line is, gosh, your lips look delicious. This is probably pre date right now, right? It's creepy. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. What came out first from Hittin' All or Baby is Cold outside?
Starting point is 00:28:19 I'm not Google on that. Like that one. All right, I'll bring it. I'll take Jingle Bells, the classic. Steve. All right, I'm going to take the name of it. I think it's just white Christmas. I'm dreaming of a white Christmas.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yes, you do. Everybody knows it. That's all I know. I don't know. I don't know that one. But I just sing that over and over again in there. And then she gets super nervous every time it snows. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Because you really be a baritone now, too, you know. He started to love it. You got it. Yeah, you really get down deep with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 You have to sing it from your nuts. Oh, yeah. Otherwise it's not worth it. It's true. It's from your white nuts. Sure. I'm going to take. Well, your turn.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Thanks. Greg, can you teach him how to do a snake raft? And you're like, I haven't seen a single snake do anything. I have to wait till we tell him it's his parent. I'm going to take basically any song from Trans-Siberian Orchestra because they all sound the same. But they're all like heavy metal Christmas. And that is right up my fucking alley.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That's a good one. Love that shit. I'm going to do the not problematic song that. Weird people find problematic. The mommy kissing Santa. Hmm. OK. Because you know there's some real weird people who are like, what?
Starting point is 00:29:50 She's cheating on husband. She's a child. It's another concept for a song, though. Until you get the dad of Santa. Oh. Does that ever put that together? He is. He is.
Starting point is 00:30:08 You are. Correct. You know, season the giving, Greg. I'm giving you new information about that. See, but I was OK with it, even if it wasn't dad. Well, yeah, you'd bang Santa, too. Yeah, if it's just, you know, you got to get Santa's props. You'd let Santa flip in your chimney.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Yeah. Oh, boy. Right on that sleigh. I have two more here. So one of them super underrated. It's kind of a niche one. Christmas All Over Again by Tom Petty. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I do love that. That song is very underrated for sure. If you haven't heard, go listen to it. And then my last one I have, This Is Our House by Gillette Stadium. Because that's a Christmas song, baby. It's a holiday song for sure. Christmas song.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I'll give you that. I'll give you that. Well, you know, this is when we start scoring touchdowns. That's correct. Nothing better than when you have fucking freezing cold at Gillette Stadium. And they score and you're kind of ship-faced and you're just screaming this song.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Kind of ship-faced. Yeah. Coming from the guy who's seen the inside of the Gillette Stadium drunk tank. Kind of ship-faced. All right, Steve's turn. I mean, I'm up. Just stop all your favorite Christmas songs, Greg,
Starting point is 00:31:34 because this is clearly an extra. I already gave all mine. Yeah. Here we go. Isn't that how Snake Drafts end? Just fizzles out. It eats its own tail. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I will say one thing, though. I can't stand the Jesus ones. You know, the gospel, like. Like what? Let's let's. I think it's 2021. Let's get God out of the whole Christmas thing now. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:59 We all move on. Is this the hot take even for the night, Greg? Take Jesus out of Christmas. Take Christ out of Christmas. Yeah, dude. You know your Jewish friends sell by Christmas. What would you rename it to be, then? I don't think you have to rename it.
Starting point is 00:32:16 It's named Christmass. No, it's like Kleenex. It's like the brand is like overcome. Yeah. It's like Band-Aid. Band-Aid. Yeah. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:32:25 All right. Did you have any more, Andy? You wanted to chime in with? I had one and you just reminded me of it, but it's gone now. So I will shout it out in an opportunity. Oh, no, no, no. It's it's the Christmas song that mom sings
Starting point is 00:32:43 every time we go visiting on Christmas. Well, I heard a little wish you a Merry Christmas. The death whistle. So what? No, we wish we. Yep. The what? Should we explain the death whistle?
Starting point is 00:32:53 Give me the death. I don't know. What's the death wish? The whistle. You must know. You know how like my mom's like doing like tidy work around the house? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:00 She does that little like kind of like can't hear it whistle. She's like, yeah. Well, yeah. Dad says the death's the noise his mom made when she was dying when she was on her death. Holy shit. So he calls it the death whistle. I have not heard this.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I know what he's talking about. I do that whistle too. Oh, yeah. I do the same whistle. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The dead Jesus Christ. That's a ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:33:25 But the best Christmas whistling song. That's Jingle Bells. That song rules to whistle. Jingle Bells? Yeah. Is that Jingle Bells? Not such a Jingle Bells, you idiot. So you go.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Ring-a-ling, ding-a-ling, ding-a-ling, ding-a-ling. This is something else. It makes a big whistle. Yeah. What does mom sing though? We wish you a Merry Christmas. Yeah. It's like her version of happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yeah. In a British accent. Whenever we like see when we go see if I'm on a bow and all. Oh, yeah. And then dad follows up with the Figgie Pudding line. And we won't go until we got some. And we won't leave till we get some. No, we won't go until we got some.
Starting point is 00:34:15 That's good. The Figgie Pudding is probably disgusting. There's no way it's good. There's absolutely no way. Yeah. That's true. All right. I have another segment here that we can kind of shoehorn in here.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Greg with the most notes on his podcast episode, by the way. Look at this. Yes. This is the most. This is the most he's participated in an episode. Well, I'm getting festive. Tis the season. Tis the season.
Starting point is 00:34:41 All right. These are my Chris Kringle Bermanisms. Oh, my goodness. See what I did there? I do. All right. This is just Patriots roster. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:53 All right. Chase Winterwitch. Not bad. Okay. Start off strong. Old Saint Nick Folk. These are good. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Brian Ho Ho Hoyer. Kendrick Born in Bethlehem. Jesus Christ Jackson. That one's kind of a stretch. That one. Yeah. And I had. I had just written down Matthew Jude on with some sort of Hanukkah joke,
Starting point is 00:35:34 but I couldn't fit one in there. GEO dash DLN. Yes. Okay. Jude on. Yeah. You started out too strongly. You should have started out with those stretches.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Although he came out hot. Those are probably the best ones you can come up with. Ho Ho Hoyer. Old Saint Nick. Yeah. Because he is old. Kendrick Born in Bethlehem. Kendrick Born in Bethlehem.
Starting point is 00:35:57 That one is fucking perfect. That's good. I was most proud of that one. No, Chase Winterwitch is my favorite. Chase Winterwitch. Nailed it. Is that what you did today? You just came up with those.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You didn't work? Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah, I came here and he's like, coming up with so many ideas for the podcast. All right. Predictions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Time to look towards the future now. That's not something we do very often. All right. So wait, before you start, I told you I had a hot take. And this is the perfect segue. Oh, I thought the hot take was, I got to confuse. I thought it was Greg saying Jesus shouldn't be in Christmas. Well, that's his hot take.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I got my own. I, yes. Mine's football related. So if you recall, in our emergency episode, when the Page of Sign came Newton, I had an erection. Yes. And it was because I had a story all planned out as to how the season would go.
Starting point is 00:37:00 If you recall. Yes. Very detailed. And it was basically a repeat of 2001. And I would just like to point out that I wasn't wrong. I was just a year too early. Well, and you had a different player playing quarterback. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Doesn't matter. I had the new guy playing quarterback. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. I had the new, unproven guy playing quarterback. Well, Andy, I'll get some clarity on your hot take. Who's the who's the big bad wolf, AKA the greatest show on turf in your new Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Why isn't the Rams? Because the Rams aren't as good. Rams are good. Not as good as Tom Brady. Not, not offensively. Rams is the best defensive player in the league. But we're talking about offense. They have to play an offensive powerhouse in the Super Bowl, Steve.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And when they come up, huh? What about the Cardinals? Yeah. What about the Packers? Because they haven't played that team already and got a moral victory in a lot in a close loss against a team that was in the Super Bowl previously. We don't do moral victories in New England, Andy.
Starting point is 00:38:06 We did in 2001 against the Rams in the regular season. I don't believe that. No, Belichick doesn't do that. Yeah, Belichick told me it wasn't. You want to hear my hot take? What's your hot take? Everyone's praising Belichick for that win against the Bills. If the Bills hit a field goal earlier,
Starting point is 00:38:27 he's like, they're going to tell him he's like the worst coach in the world. Well, it couldn't even have been. They went zero blitz in the last down. Even if they hit that as a touchdown, it's game over. Yeah. If the entire narrative would have flipped. The entire narrative.
Starting point is 00:38:39 We're such like a results driven like media reactionary thing. Well, your hot take is dumb because if they had a field goal earlier, they probably would have passed more. Exactly. Yeah. If they had gone for two when they scored a touchdown, it would have been a different game. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I think he just runs the ball every play regardless. Nope. I don't think so. Mac Jones even said, and I think Josh McDaniels also said that their plan wasn't to run the ball every play. It was just to run it until it stopped working basically, and it just never stopped working. They never got into a position where they didn't have to run it.
Starting point is 00:39:12 There was like thirds and fourteens, thirds and thirteens. Give me some Bill's fans like temperature after the game. Very sad. You say bro again? I'm sad a lot before. Not like this was different. This was different. This felt different.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Usually they're like they're a little testy. Testy is probably the right word, but you could tell they were expecting a loss. So they would they were kind of having fun with it. This time they were just sad. They were demoralized. It was fun chirping them because like... You felt bad.
Starting point is 00:39:48 You felt bad. Yeah. I mean, it didn't stop me, but... Yeah, we saw that video. It's taking the soccer chant in the middle of the stadium. How does he do? I was doing like strut walking by the cars on the way out too. I'm like stopping by every car and looking at them.
Starting point is 00:40:09 This is a regular Bill's fans car. It's not like this car. No, yeah, the fans. And one guy like did a fake get out of the car because he was mad. That guy's a good sport if he's out there. Not going to lie. I've seen you. I mean, we went to the Panthers game
Starting point is 00:40:28 and you chanted basically through the entire game. Who's the home team? And you were well on your way to your blackout at the end of the game as we're walking back. And I only slightly feared for your safety at times when you basically walk through crowds of Panthers fans chanting things. So I did actually have a legitimate slight worry when we hadn't heard from you the next day after the Buffalo game.
Starting point is 00:41:03 By like one o'clock, I had to check in with Steve and be like, have you heard from Greg? I had to ask Kelly. Oh, I was in a bad place. I'm sure. I woke up. I had a flight at six a.m. The morning after the game.
Starting point is 00:41:17 So the Monday night game. Got after it went to the game, got in the slept in the RV and then got a ride at like four in the morning to the airport. Holy shit. Loot of Charlotte lay over, got back to Durham by 9 a.m. Did you work and worked? I was in a bag of shit. And like when I say I smell bad, I can't even put into
Starting point is 00:41:43 I've honestly never smelled worse in my life than I did that one on the plane. We get Kelly to vouch that our she was here. It was so disgusting because it was just mud everywhere. Oh, yeah. The videos you sent me made me glad I didn't go up for that game. That's why you go, though. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I'd rather be like that than sunny. That was the video where you were outside and you could see the mud on the ground and the snow falling sideways. And one of your tents had collapsed because the wind was so strong. Oh, yeah. You had like a fire and a barrel going to keep warm. And that was when I'm like, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I'll watch this at home. That's fine. Great time. Brutal. Yeah, because he won. All right. Predictions. I started to try and come up with Christmas-themed
Starting point is 00:42:36 prediction categories. Good effort. We'll start there. I could fit some of these in there. Okay. So the first one is your Santa Claus team or the team that most personifies Santa Claus when you turn 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:42:58 So like the most likely to be a fraud once they get to the big show. Oh, I was just going to go to the Kansas City Chiefs, mainly because of Andy Reed. Gives off a real strong Santa Claus vibe, but isn't. Okay. But I'm going to stick with that because I think that still fits your criteria.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I think the Chiefs are frauds. Okay. I'm going Packers. I think the Packers are fraud. Aaron Frauders. Because they've been frauds every year. Yeah. Like how many times have you seen Aaron Rodgers
Starting point is 00:43:27 dominate the regular season? They look like a wagon and then they get to the playoffs and they just lose. So what you're saying is he is the current version of Peyton Manning. Yeah, kind of. I mean, it's hard to win the NFL. I get that and I'm not going to like judge a career
Starting point is 00:43:42 just by playoff. How are you doing the playoffs? But it's hard to say that he doesn't play terribly, but he just doesn't play well enough to win. Like last year was a great example. I'm not running in that one from like 10. Yeah. Like there's just something about Rodgers that maybe it's
Starting point is 00:43:58 like he's like too aloof to have that like competitive razor's edge when those games that were that matters. You know. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what it might be. But I think that I think you're right. Sure.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Ravens can count. Because if not the Ravens, then maybe the Rams. Well, the Titans. All right. Now the Rams have just collected talent. So you're saying, hey, you got a big name. Get over here. That's true.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Okay. So who's your root off the red nose reindeer team? You know, just the fucking leading the charge. Lead the charge. Exceeding expectations. I mean, other than the Patriots. About him now, but.
Starting point is 00:44:40 You're saying other than the Patriots. I mean, you can pick pages if you want, but that may be fucking. That's too easy. Yeah. Huh. The Patriots. Daisy Park has a Homer on it.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Color me surprised. We got to do non-patriots edition. All right. I would say the Indianapolis Colts. No. Colts are good. Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz is actually playing sneaky good right now.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Yeah. He'll do something dumb though. He's only thrown like four in a section of the season or something stupid like that. But he's weight. He's done. And all four have been absolute backbreakers. Problem. But they don't even throw the ball anymore.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah. Just ask the bills. I got the Bengals too. And I think the Bengals are sneaky good. Joe Barrow is legit. And like they're receiving core is like pretty nasty. Jaguars. What about from the NFC?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Jaguars. No. Well, we've got a category for that. Vikings, I can see turning it up. Vikings will find a way to lose at the end all the time. Twenty-niners, well coached, good running game. They can win in January. I'd be about that.
Starting point is 00:45:51 All right. Next category. How the Grinch stole Christmas team. Non-playoff spoiler team. Interesting. Lions. Dude, I'm taking lines through the playing group. Really?
Starting point is 00:46:06 Last game of the season, dude. And then they still get the number one pick because they have a lot of tie on there. Yeah. Dude. And they're still playing hard. I love watching the Lions. Um, Seattle. Seattle.
Starting point is 00:46:27 That's a good one. They can still win games for sure. Yeah. But it's a crap shoot if they're going to win any games or if they're just going to go win less. I can see it going either way. But I bet they could because the Cardinals. Rams and Niners are all like fighting for those playoff spots.
Starting point is 00:46:48 And I can see the Seahawks throwing a wrench in those plans. Pretty sure. Of somebody, you know, right at the end. All right. Any other bold predictions you guys have? Urban Meyer gets rehired. As a what? By the Jets.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Oh, no. Give me, give me what, uh, what's the next thing that's going to come out about Urban Meyer? What's the next scandal that's been brushed under the rug up until now? He already had a job lined up at a college. He's already had another job for two months. He's been trying to do both. Yeah. Oh, that's not bad.
Starting point is 00:47:38 That's not bad. That's actually, I can see that. Yeah. I'm going to say a paternity suit. Oh, yeah. That's where I was. That's where I was leaning somewhere in that direction. Don't mind grinding.
Starting point is 00:47:51 That's for sure. Yep. Yep. Yep. I think there's got to be something with the players. Well, I got another bold prediction. Okay. The season does not finish as scheduled.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Oh, Omnicron will not happen. They will finish the season and come to Hello High Water. Yeah. Well, they'll finish it, but they push it back a week or something like that. Or they like... I don't know. You know, the EPL in England already start already talking about doing that. They're going to break.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Really? Go mid-January. Wow. Well, they can though. Because when does their league run, the EPL? Because they're not all spring. Yeah. So they're like in the middle.
Starting point is 00:48:37 They're the halfway through. Yeah. Yeah. But we're getting towards the end here. You get divisional games. You get games that have playoff implications. You're not going to cancel any of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:47 They'll maybe skip the week in between the Super Bowl and the extra week. Maybe. There's 75 players. Yeah. That's positive for COVID in the last two weeks. The Browns have 20 players. They're ridiculous. They're out.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Including their top two quarterbacks. And they're all vaccinated. So it's not even like... And a lot of them are asymptomatic too. Yeah. So who the hell knows? There's a lot of play. What's an MFL going to do?
Starting point is 00:49:16 It's like, hey, if you're asymptomatic here, it's like as long as you like rapid test and get in there. I honestly have a problem. I think that's what they're going to do. I'm not a health official though. I'm just helping you with the computer. You know, I think we can take solace in the fact that
Starting point is 00:49:36 Yennefal will put money aside and just do what's in the best interest for everybody's help. And there's... Oh, absolutely. And put that above everything. That's what's most important. So... And they won't bow to public pressure.
Starting point is 00:49:47 They'll just do whatever they think is in the best interest. Oh, you want the newest Patriots related conspiracy? Sure. The conspiracy is... Bill Belichick is cheating the COVID reporting system by under-reporting because they haven't had enough people pop for COVID. Compared to the rest of the league. I could see him doing it.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And because the Northeast is having a huge spike and the Patriots themselves are not. I'm not saying, I'm just saying... Just scribble the first round draft pick now. You may as well. Let's just skip to that part. Maybe we just don't give him a first round draft pick ever again. You just...
Starting point is 00:50:33 All future first round draft picks are forfeited. Because of some bullshit. We'll figure something out. Yeah, because safety, league safety. Steve, it's like you're talking about. Oh, my goodness. What do you think that's a chance at this thing? Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Yep. I mean, where are we at? We're at... Oh, Greg, we're at nine wins. What are we bet on? The over-under was nine and a half and you put the under. Oh, boy. When did I do that before this season?
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah. Yeah, that was our... You put this dog up, Steve. I didn't give it to her. Dog. He's so good at this, Greg. Going the other way. Hey, that...
Starting point is 00:51:27 Go over there. He's like an inch just out of his ring. Oh, God. He's so good. Greg has met his match. I think so immature. There you go. Told you.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Met his match. Oh, my God. Oh, now she just wants to play chase with her, Greg. Yeah. All right. So predictions. Pages are currently nine and four, first in the AFC,
Starting point is 00:52:02 with some tough games coming up. And then not much after that, really, I think, right? Make it lose to the Dolphins. Dolphins are playing well right now. Colts, Bills, Jaguars, Dolphins. At the Colts, at the Dolphins. Home for the Dolphins. Lost, win, lost, win.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Okay. So you think they finish... Oh, wait. No. Lose to the Dolphins and the Colts. Okay. So lost, win, win, lost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:25 We play the Jaguars? Yeah. Yeah. At home. I wish just right to my reason. In January. January 2nd, we play the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's going to be an absolute shit-kick.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I might say that. I'd say that's win-out. Win-out? Mm-hmm. Wow. Okay. So that would put them, really, nine and four. Another four.
Starting point is 00:52:46 So 13 and four, Steve is saying. Yep. Okay. I say I'm thinking 12 and five, just because I think that's what I picked to start with, because that's what they average, 12 wins a year. Okay. So I think they lose one of the next two games,
Starting point is 00:53:03 probably either Colts or the Bills. Actually, you know, I think, Greg, you're probably right, it's probably the Dolphins at the end of the year. It is. Because if they win these next two games, actually, I think if they beat the Bills, they clinch the ASE East, regardless. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:21 So, yeah. So the Bills are two games back. So they got it. If they don't beat the Patriots, they're basically fucked. Yeah. Yeah. Because the Patriots have their own schedule, though. Outside of that.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Right. But they're three games up, and they've got the tiebreaker beating them twice. Right. Yeah. So, yeah. So I think they lose one more. 12 and five make the playoffs first seed.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Probably 12, 12 wins. You get you the first seed, do you think? Yeah. In the close. I would think. At least in the AFC. NFC, there's two teams with 10 wins already. It's going to depend.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Yeah, it's going to depend on Kansas City. Yeah. Kansas City is a sneaky, scary team. It could be. Is any other team scary? Here's the current playoffs. And just like the teams that are qualifying now, it's New England, Buffalo, Baltimore, Tennessee, Indianapolis,
Starting point is 00:54:17 Kansas City, and the Chargers. Not really. The Bengals maybe. Baltimore. No, not Baltimore. Baltimore. Not if they don't have a quarterback. Yeah, but they've had some super bad losses this year,
Starting point is 00:54:32 it feels like. Yeah. And then some good wins. Barely winning, though. They got lucky a lot. Yeah. But do you see it about the Patriots? The Patriots are beating bad teams by a lot that they should be,
Starting point is 00:54:44 you know, Baltimore struggles with Houston. You're going to tell me that's not a lucky win. They got to play in Houston. No, they. What do you define as lucky then? And the ball bouncing a certain way. Real lucky in like that Jaguars. But you just don't get lucky.
Starting point is 00:55:05 They earn lucky. All right. So what's your Super Bowl then? Give me Super Bowl predictions. Patriots cardinals as a Patriots Rams. We're an upstart young quarterback beats the greatest show on turf down, you know, top game with a couple of minutes left instead of playing for overtime. He goes to the field goal and makes it.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Tom Brady is going to do it again, isn't he? Yep. Yep. Well, no, it'll be it'll be Pat's box in the Super Bowl. And the world will basically melt down the football worlds because then one of them has to win, especially if Belichick wins it. Can you imagine? Because everybody because right now the story is, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:52 who's responsible for the Patriots dynasty. And so if Brady wins it without Belichick last year and then Belichick wins it without Brady this year, yeah, worse than both worlds. Yeah. Yeah. All the haters will just, yeah, they have nothing that they can use anymore. It'll be amazing. And Brady would be the first team to win a Super Bowl one in his home stadium and with his first
Starting point is 00:56:15 year on a team. And if Belichick does it this year, he'd be the first team to win it with a rookie quarterback, I believe. I think that's true. Yep. The rookie quarterbacks never even made the Super Bowl. I believe that's true. Because I think Ben Rosberg is probably the closest 15-1 losing the AFC Championship game.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Well, Brady was in his second year. Secondly, yeah. Yeah, because you have 2000 and played like garbage time against Detroit that year. I think he threw three passes. Lions are beating us up so bad they had to stick Brady in. Yeah, actually. And he was like one for three for 60 yards or something. Not an auspicious start.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I don't want to play Brady. I do. I'd be okay with it. I don't. I'd be okay with it. It'd be a good game because it's the Patriots in the Super Bowl and it's Brady in the Super Bowl. It'd be a good game.
Starting point is 00:57:12 If you have to like root against Brady. Well, I just wanted to like. I'm okay with it. The only reason I'm okay with it is because everybody else would hate it. I'm okay with it because he's already won the Super Bowl. So I'm okay rooting against him this year. I just want to see like poor Vilsphans, you know, like what do they do? What do they do?
Starting point is 00:57:30 Oh, oh, oh, that's that. I have a I have a hypothetical for you guys that I thought of when I was on the toilet the other day. Let's say Tom Brady decides to leave the Buccaneers this year or whatever is his thing is up and he can go to one more team. Which team would boost his I don't know, not cred, but his his legacy the most if you went to one more team and like took that team in Super Bowl or won a Super Bowl with one more team.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Lions Jets. So yeah, I first thought the Lions or you know, a team that hadn't been to Super Bowl Lions or Browns or someone like that. Yeah, I think the the actual answer is the Buffalo Bills. No, it's not big enough market 49ers. You got to think Mark. No, because you won one for the Jets. Did the Jets are the biggest like market in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:58:33 No, I don't. I think that hate the Jets though, because I think the Bills are beloved right by even non Bills fans outside of the East. Like people love the Bills because they love the Bills fans and they love that they're a small market team that you know has been to four Super Bowls but lost all four the lovable losers and the one person who they hate the most is Tom Brady because Tom Brady is talking about legacy like you're talking about like say you're like a fan in like England or Australia, right?
Starting point is 00:59:07 They've never even heard of the fucking Bills. You know, they know the Jets, they know the Giants, they know the Patriots, they know the Cowboys. Cowboys is a good answer. 49ers, 49ers. 49ers would be a good one too, yeah. Think about the casual fan and what they think of. Think about the people in Brazil, Andy.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Yeah. But that's not what I'm that's not really what I'm talking about. I'm talking about like NFLA. Is he like fans of the game? Like because right now he's he's accomplished a lot but he's still like super hated, right? Like anybody outside of New England or Tampa Bay? I don't know if he is. I think like going to a hated team like even more enhances your legacy.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Like there's a reason like there's a reason Cowboys are like the biggest team in the league is because half the league fucking hates them and half the league loves them. And that just means they're important, right? Like the Bills is kind of like, oh shucks, they won or oh shucks, they lost. But no one really thinks like it gets passionate about them winning or losing. Except those fans. Except those fans. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I think a lot of people would jump on that bandwagon. Dallas, he wins for Dallas. You're going to have half the people in the league going, god damn it. And you know that being like over. But he already has that with the Patriots. The Patriots are the new Cowboys. I think it's and I think he's honestly made the Patriots into that team. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No one gave a shit, but now we were the Bills. And that's why we're like now the second most valuable franchise in the NFL. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Is it still that way? Pretty sure. Yeah. No, I thought the Patriots were the first. Oh, really? Andy, you did. No, I really like I thought there was there was like a news story. What a surprise.
Starting point is 01:00:48 I thought the Patriots were double the next best. I bet Bill Bell checks the highest big coach. I mean, probably. He's been there for 20 fucking years. Of course he is. He probably got he's probably doesn't make as much as fucking a reminder. Well, it depends on if there's a behavior clause in Urban Meyers contract. Well, it's like the see what Lincoln rally got paid to go to USC.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Ridiculous. Funny money. They don't have to pay the players. So these college coaches can make so much money. I think they make more than NFL coaches. Oh, yeah. That's probably true because they don't have to pay the players. So they just throw money at these fucking college guys.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Well, now they do have to pay players though, right? No. No, they're not paying them. Players can just companies are paying. Yeah. Barstools pay them. Yeah, they didn't even want to allow that. That's how fucking crooked the NCAA is.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I think you don't even have to pay them. We'll get fucking Verizon to pay them or American Airlines. And they're like, no, no, that'll ruin the amateurism of the game. Like such bullshit. And he's on his fifth link trying to find somewhere that says Patriots worth more. No, it is the Cowboys. Just barely barely. Just barely.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Trust but verify, Greg. It's fake news. Give me give me the bottom five. The least. Yeah. The least valuable franchises. This is a good exercise. Carolina.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Steve, you got the 32nd most valuable franchise. 2.27 billion dollars. Well, Carolina just got sold. Carolina is not on there. No, they're not in the top 10 either. Texans are not on here. It's a big market in Houston. Think small town Green Bay Campy, though.
Starting point is 01:02:44 No. Cleveland. Cleveland is 29th, 2.6 billion. Cincinnati. Cincinnati is 31st, 2.275 billion. Yeah. Which is 0.005 billion more than the bills. Big market.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Arizona. Nope. Oakland. Oh, there are Las Vegas now in my bag. Yeah. Nope. I don't know. Give us a hint.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Kansas City. No. AFC South is one of the teams. Tennessee. Indianapolis. Tennessee. Two point. They are 28th.
Starting point is 01:03:25 And the other team is one. Washington. No, they're actually top. They're number five. That is such fucking bullshit. Right. That is bullshit. Um, no.
Starting point is 01:03:36 The 30th ranked team is as bad at being valuable as they are at winning football games. Jaguars. Think worse. Think longer term. Lions. Buccaneers. Detroit Lions. 2.4 billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Yeah, that makes sense. Trevor would say it's an overpay. I think a lot of people, especially Lions fans would say that's an overpay. But yes, the Dallas Cowboys are worth 6.5 billion. The New England page is worth 5 billion. Nobody else is worth more than 5. 6.5 billion dollars. They're a billion and a half more than the Patriots.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Yep. And then the New York Giants are 3rd to 4.85. Well, at the bottom is like 2 billion dollars. The bills are worth 2 billion. So they're like almost the bills worth more than the Patriots. I mean, that feels right. That's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Then there's Giants, Rams, Washington, 49ers, Bears, Jets, Eagles, Broncos. So I like the old school teams. Oh, fucking. How the hell are the Reds? Uh, sorry. Washington football team? Got a little fucking peepee slap there for that one. Very guilty.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Washington top pot. They have the worst attendance in the league. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's got to know. There's no fans anymore. That has to affect bottom line. When was this written? This was August 5th, 2021.
Starting point is 01:05:03 So this is recent. So I don't get it. They make up valuations anyways, you know. I mean, it's a good market, but until your owner says something racist and then all of a sudden it becomes real. Matter of time. Dan, Dan, who knows? Hopefully.
Starting point is 01:05:18 You can't call him, dude. You have to call Mr. Snyder. Me and my boss. That's the rumor. There's there's like awesome shit coming out about Dan Snyder. Like super petty stuff. Huh? What about Senor Snyder?
Starting point is 01:05:32 I don't know if you'd go for that. Wee-wee. All right. Merry Christmas, everybody. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. If that's your jam. Happy holidays.
Starting point is 01:05:44 We will be back at some point. We probably will take a bit of a break over the holidays, I would guess. Yep. Enjoy your Yuletide joy. Yes. Then you run DMC. And your candy canes and apple bobbins. Apple bobbins?
Starting point is 01:06:00 Isn't that a Halloween thing? Spitting off top of the dome. Good break. Happy Chase Wintervich, everybody. Have a very eggy Christmas, everybody. A very eggy Christmas. A very eggy Christmas. And as always, turn in next week to see how much of a blubbering
Starting point is 01:06:19 little bitch Greggy on the Patriots Dynasty podcast. See you later. See you later.

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