Patriots Dynasty Podcast - Bonus Episode: Kevin Faulk Interview

Episode Date: July 12, 2022

In a historic moment for the podcast, the brothers were able to convince one of their real-life heroes to join them to talk old school Patriots football! Except for Greg, who is adhering to his "don't meet your heroes" rule after discovering Dave Meggett's extracurricular activities. You've heard us talk about him, but now listen to us talk to him: Kevin Faulk joins the podcast to answer all your burning questions!Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Page Dynasty podcast, the podcast where my brothers and I are rewatching every game of the Dynasty era until we run out of games or until we run out of steam. We shall see. We have made it through the 2004 regular season and we're preparing for the 2004 playoffs. With me as always is a trusty brother, Steve Brown, the dependable

brother. Yes, the favorite brother, if you will. Yes, we are missing Greg Brown, but that hardly matters because we have another guest, a special guest this week. The most special guest Steve that we've ever had. Definitely. Fair to say. Yeah, I would say so. With us this week, we are very pleased to announce the one and only Mr. Third Down himself, Kevin Schruyfalk. Kevin, thanks for joining us. You're on mute. I'm mute, bud. Still on mute.

Unmute me. Here we go. Thanks, guys. I appreciate you all having me, man. I don't know how we got on mute. I got one hand right now. Well, I got to say, Kevin, thank you for agreeing to do the rest of the 300 games instead of Greg. That's the only kind of, you know. And you really tried to slide that one in there, huh? Coming out strong. That's right. I like it.

All right. So maybe for those of the younger listeners that we have was kind of run through those that didn't get to experience the Kevin Falk era at the beginning of the 2004. You've heard us talk about him ad nauseam on this podcast. But Kevin, born in Lafayette, Louisiana, correct me if I'm wrong, any of this stuff. This is all basically from your Wikipedia. So he was pretty good with the pronunciation. Yeah, not bad, right? Not bad for a northern guy.

Yes. High school. Your high school quarterback. Is that right? High school quarterback. Dreams of playing wide receiver ended up as a running back, as you do. Yes, sir. Ended up as a running back at LSU. And I knew I'm not a big college football guy because, you know, born or raised in New England, so we just we don't really do college football up here.

Didn't realize like how big a deal you were at LSU. Oh, appreciate that. Yeah, nobody did, especially up there. Yeah, no kidding. I mean, that's true. But 13 long good years. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I mean, I think you're still the school's leader in rushing yards, rushing

touchdowns, touchdowns from scrimmage. You're fourth in the SEC in rushing yards, third in total touchdowns in the SEC. Like you were a wagon, basically, at LSU. That's there. I know all of that. Thanks for, you know, reminding me about that. I didn't know. That's what we're here for. We're here to pump your tires. But yeah, I'm still thinking about.

But yeah, I mean, and there's there's some there's some big names on there on all those lists, really. I mean, you're up there with some some big names. I mean, who we got? We got, do you know who else is up on those lists? Did you track that back in the day or like when it's happening? Well, I know Herschel Walker. Both Jackson was up there with something.

Oh, yeah. Uh, Emmett, maybe, maybe not. I know T-Bo got the touchdowns. He T-Bo did get the touchdowns. Yes, he did. I remember when that happened, that was fair. Yeah, he doesn't quite count, does he? It's pretty cool.

That's cheating. No, however you can do it. Like I tell people, records are made to be broken by very special people. Somebody break a record. That means that's a special person. Yeah, that's fair. But yeah, let's see. You had you were on the list of single game rushing yards for LSU

twice, number seven with 246 rushing yards against Houston. 234 against Michigan State year before. Darius juice is on here like one, two, three, four times. Yeah, that is a beast. I don't remember him. No juice. Where is he now? Oh, he's on guys.

They just put juice. Not saying his name, right? Yeah, as you can tell, I don't know. Steve, he's he's on. He's on the in his commander's watch football team or watching football team where they can't tell us now. Yeah, he got trouble so they kind of changed his name a little bit. They didn't put his real name up there.

I got you. Yeah, so so Kevin Falk highly drafted, highly sought after and being the fourth wide receiver off the board. But I was listening to another interview you did. And you're saying the Patriots told you that they were going to pick in the first round, right? One of the first two picks. They had two picks in the first round that year. First one, they took Casemore or Woody?

I think. Oh, yeah, I think Woody was first. They took, yeah, it took Damian Woody first. He was like, OK, OK, they setting it up. They said, yeah, exactly what they said, they set it up. The second pick came in the first. Oh, my bad. The second pick came in the first round and it was like Andy Casemore. Ohio State linebacker and I'm sitting on the sofa like, what?

I get off the sofa like, where you going? I am. I'm going to jump on the four wheels. I'm going to I'm riding four wheels and stuff in the forest. This man is mad as hell, mad as hell. And I think that was like the twenty six something something like that. Well, Atlanta was in a Super Bowl that year, so they had the 32nd pick. They called. Hey, we're thinking about taking you with the 32nd pick.

I'm rushing back. Flying back. Get it. I forget who they picked. They picked somebody else and I'm like, oh, you all mothers. And then from that point on, it's like, I don't want to watch no more. I'm good. It's about the draft is about to be in for the day. So I'm probably not going to get drafted.

So I'm really upset and I get the phone call. Hey, man. We turn it up. We turn it up for you. Blah, blah, blah. It's New England. Like, what the OK, I'm happy. I'm sorry.

So, but yeah, it was a sad, but exciting day. Yeah, no kidding. Who is it? Yeah. The Patriots traded up with Tennessee to pick you. Yes, because the Giants was about to take me. Oh, I think the Giants had the next pick right after Tennessee. Or somewhere around there. And yeah, yeah, they're in there.

Yeah, they were ahead of the Patriots. Yeah, there were a couple of picks later. Yeah, exactly. And they went with Joe Montgomery instead. Whoops. Whoops. They were no, they was actually about to take me. Yeah, that's why the Patriots draft moved up.

You know, they all these they call who you like on your board, who's the first on your board. And that's how you know, I didn't even realize it. Who you like on your board? I like this guy. Oh, OK, hey, man, you want to trade? That's how they get done. Yeah, I mean, it's it's a whole.

I've seen like all the behind the scenes stuff. And it's just it's a whole like process. It's unbelievable how much work actually goes into making all these picks. Not that I think, you know, the NFL draft needs to be a three day televised affair. Oh, yeah. Anything to make more money, guys. That's right. That's all it is. Anything to make more money, guys.

Come on, man. So remember who the number one overall pick was in that draft? No, remind me. Tim Couch. Oh, oh, don't let me nap. Pick second. Yeah, because the Browns being the Browns and then Bengals picking Achilles Smith. Yeah, yeah.

He'll be in the Browns. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and then some something's never changed. So you you you see like the interviews with Tom Brady and he knows like the six guys picked ahead of him. Do you know the three picked ahead of you? Hmm. Good question. Ricky Williams.

Mm hmm. Yep. Hey, Johnson. Who? Oh, yeah. JJ Johnson. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. EJ. Yeah, Edgar and James.

Edgar and James was four. Ricky Williams, five. And JJ Johnson was a few picks before you, 30, 39. I can't believe I remember that. I can't believe you remember that either. I'm impressed. Still got that chip on your shoulder. No, but it's just it's just I know.

I know those I know those guys. Most of them, like, play besides Ricky. Besides, Ricky, as they played the J-player in the SEC, so I knew him. OK, and I knew I knew EJ already. We was cool already. And I wrote with Ricky for a few All-American teams in college.

So I kind of knew I knew. How is that? Because that guy is a character. It was awkward. Oh, really? Very. He never talked. Never really went out with like us. Yeah, like the game.

He always had something going on in his own. But, you know, you know, kind of know why. Yeah. But he did talk. But he just never really, you know, opened up. What's the hang of? Yeah, exactly. I want to hang out with the whole group. Yeah, I got you.

And when I came back to the room, we clownjoked around. But it wasn't like too many people. You know, we had a very small circle. Yeah, that's fair. I'm like that. I got Steve about it. And it's not Greg. He shows up.

You better have a small circle. Yeah, that's the way to do it. I got neighbors don't even like them. I want to move further into the woods. I love new friends. I'm not a fan. I don't like people. You'll be like me right now. There you go.

Live in the dream, Kevin. All right. So yeah. So all you did was get drafted by the Patriots. In 1999, the second round. And since then, you still, after all these years, are in the top whatever of basically every single statistic that they have for the Patriots. You're still fifth in rushing yards,

which I think is more impressive because you weren't ever kind of the feature back like the bell cow that you normally see. Right. They never actually had a hundred yard game. Do you know that? Yeah. Oh, I knew that.

That came up with our bycaster. That's a crazy set. The one time that it came close, the one time. Oh, it was like 96 yards. Like it was real close. Yes. That game recently. I think we did. Yeah.

Yeah. These came up in the broadcast. I guess the Browns, maybe. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yes. I remember. Oh, my God. And yet, with all that said, you are still first in all purpose yards.

So you're having a hundred yard games. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. But because with your I mean, you're with a 13th in receiving yards with all the quality receiving options that the Patriots have had over the years. First in kick return yards still

and it has some good kick returners out there. Eighth in punt return yards, which again, some real good punt returners, I would say. And you're sitting on your first like you have a ton of kick return yards. And that's what I, you know, everybody's like, oh, he's missed a third down. But I remember you being the kick return guy

for a long time, like growing up. I was there to secure the ball. I was there to secure the ball. Yeah. Make sure the ball get caught. And I caught, I had a few good runs. They won't. One year without return, two kick offs for a touchdown.

Yep, you sure did. I believe 2002, I think. We watched that a couple of seasons ago. Yeah, I don't know how that happened. Well, they actually, that was one of the like the the stats that I don't even know how I came. I think this was like one of the games we watched and they posted this stat, you know, like they have just the

the random stats and you were the only Patriot to score multiple touchdowns in three different categories. You did it rushing, receiving and kick returns. Yes. And you were the only person in the whole NFL to do it that year. Wow. So bananas. Interesting.

Yeah. Nobody ever told me that. I would imagine it probably still the only the only Patriot, at least, to do in all three categories. Unless Edelman. You know, I don't think it was the year. I don't know. Like two punt returns and like two rushing to I don't think so.

That wasn't a style. Never really had rushed. So, yeah, I bet I bet that probably still stands. Because you were Mr. Everything. Yeah, you are. Yeah, I we've said this on the park has a lot that you and I think Troy Brown are the prototypical Patriots.

Like that seems to be like the guys they're looking for were basically replacements for you and Troy. That's all I got through. Yeah. I mean, it's our guy too, not just because. Yeah, that's probably my number one question. Who is your favorite teammate and why is it Troy Brown? Well, I got a bunch of favorite teammates.

But when I first came, you whenever you first come to where you try to find somebody that to idolize or to watch to mimic. And throughout the course of my first few days, few weeks there to notice the truck, you know, how he worked. Wasn't wasn't like the best player on the team, but he just worked hard and went about his business not saying nothing, but just being that guy. And took to it and really started trying to test it to how, you know, how he works, how he goes about his business and really started, you know,

trying to simulate him. Well, I think you did a good job of that. Try to. So do you have a kind of like favorite moment from your football career? Anything that stands out specifically? Oh, definitely. The first Super Bowl. I have to say that because it was in my home state.

Oh, yeah. So I won a high school championship in their stadium at that time. Then to come back in with a Super Bowl. And then in 2019, we won a national championship in there. So the Super Bowl was kind of like a. Right. So, you know, that's definitely a memory. Um, bad memory, bad memory, losing 07.

Yeah, you mean. But it still was that season was a memory like in its own, just the different weeks that went through, you know, the different weeks were totally different each week as a team, you know, play each and every other team. It was a different team that we had to face and we had to have a different game plan. So yeah, it was this special. So how that whole 2007 season felt like a big middle finger to like the whole league, like you guys just never seem to take your foot off the gas.

Is that how it was like in the locker room too? Or was that just like us fans being like, yeah, look what we did. We can we can throw the middle finger because the Patriots are doing so well and stopping everybody. No, I think it was something that throughout the course of training camp, mini camp, you see what was developing. You see what type of team that we could have, we could possibly have. And then when we added that, that, that, that one piece that we thought

that was going to be and that was Randy and it was like, came to training camp. I can remember the first couple of days of training camp. And I don't know if time rolled out, was getting thrust out of the pocket. But he threw a deep ball to the left side. And Randy was lined up on the right side, time to the ball so high that Randy just had to run under it in the back of the left end zone. And if you remember the player, the first game of the season against the New York City, it was the identical plate, identical ball that he threw just like that.

And it was like, oh my God, did you guys see him go get that? Did you see him accelerate? And it was like, oh, wow. That's exactly what I said when we were watching that Jets game. Yeah, he literally outran triple coverage. I'm like, this is going to be something special this year, guys. I'm literally, literally. Yeah, the team starts to gain that confidence as a whole team.

Wow. You can't stop it. Yeah, no kidding. And a lot of people tell you right into that defensive line. Yeah, yeah. So the NASCAR defense is what they call themselves. Yeah, that's a deep. That's rough. Yeah, not not not big Giants fans in the Brown household.

I got to tell you, no, no, not our style. Yes, way more. It's fun. It's OK. It's OK, guys. I mean, the other the other six Super Bowls did kind of lessen the blow. So it's cool. OK, you win some, you lose some. Yeah, that's true. I will say I had to had to delete all the sports talk radio stations from my car radio, though.

The next like six months after that, after that Super Bowl, I was just I deleted all my bookmarks, ESPN and all that shit. Like I was I was done with sports for like six months. Couldn't do it. Yeah. I don't think I watched sports in on some one time. We actually went back to working out. Yeah, I think it's probably the same time we started. I would have watched nothing dealing with football right now.

No, that was a tough offseason. Yes. Yeah. But you were actually drafted by Pete Carroll when he was coaching the team. Right. Yes. I think I was the head coach. Bobby Greer was the general manager. So was was there a big difference between a Pete Carroll locker room and a Bill Balochek locker room?

Oh, definitely. Yeah. Hands down. Pete Carroll is your players coach. He's whatever you need. You tell Pete, he's going to take care of it. OK. Bill, now we're going to work around. We're going to work on what we got.

Yeah. And we're going to make it work. It's going to work. It may be a little tough, but we're going to make it work. Well, it wasn't the the first year that Bill took over in 2000 by the end of the season, because the salary cap was so mangled, like you guys couldn't even feel 53 players, right? Right. Even have three players on the team. Right. But that was I think he liked stuff like that.

Yeah, it seems that way. Yes, for some odd reason, that's just Bill. You know, he liked doing that type of stuff that I can control this. I can make this make this work. Yeah. Yeah. He also seems to like doing things the hard way. Yeah, I know. But it seems like the hard way.

But at the end of the year, you're like, we actually made that work. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And one thing is about him is getting a good feel. He's a I'm going to get a good feel for my team guy. OK. I'm going to understand what my team is, who they are,

what our strengths are, what our weaknesses are. And we're going to attack it that way and try to avoid our weaknesses in games. But as you say, it's going to happen. Of course, going to happen. So he he feels his team. I didn't understand, you know, what's the strengths of that team at that time. And that's not saying that the weaknesses can't be built into strengths later on in that season.

But he knows that some at that point when it started season, that's their weakness. Yeah. So he knows his team. So we we've had a. An argument, a disagreement, I'd say, with Greg, who conveniently isn't here. But I am in the camp that Bill Belichick is a coaching genius. And Greg says he's just like a smart guy. And that like any good coach would would do a lot of the things that he did.

It's more credit than he deserves. Yes. Ah, one thing Bill does is visitation detail. Very small detail, little detail. Some of the things you'd be like, ah, why would you pay attention to that? Like, why would we need to know what school or guy went to that we're playing against? Why would that make a difference?

Why would we need to know that he played a different position? Why would we need to know that Ronnie Brown was left handed before the Wildcat game? Why we need to know that? You know, just those little things that, you know, like when soon as Ronnie Brown threw that pass, that touchdown pass, the first thing I heard was, who knew he was left handed? Not who had to cover that guy, but who knew he was left handed?

So, you know, that those little things, yeah. I think I'm being too loud. My wife told me to be quiet. Why do you think I'm in the car? Yeah, I get the same thing. Oh, my door. At least you can't hear me. So because just for like, you know, peeling the curtain back a bit,

the way that we convince you to come on is that I started a Twitter campaign where I would post flattering things about you every day and post a highlight and stuff and like, why, why it was so cool. And the one today was actually I've been I've been doing ones with the direct snap because you were kind of that's kind of your play that a lot of people remember, like when there's a big moment and the pages needed a conversion, two playing conversion or a touchdown or like they need this play, that seemed to be where they would go.

Why people didn't understand that? Why people didn't get that? It's like he's going out in motion. He's out of the backfield. He's mostly in the back into the backfield. Hmm. And Tom Brady's going like this. What's the one play to run when he boasts back into the backfield?

Yeah. And it caught him off guard every time. Every time. It could be. I'm watching the Atlanta Falcons Super Bowl with the pages. Yeah. That yesterday or day before or something, same thing. Yeah, what's the one play they needed to have those points?

Yes. Yeah. Yeah, then they write it. But I was going to say the one play that I found that I posted today was you ran that play, but then you ran to the right and did the floor back to Tom, who looked like a wounded gazelle finishing the play. Yeah. That was the problem, though. Like, am I going to throw a good enough ball

that is going to be perfect enough for Tom not to have to go try to chase it? Because if he has to go chase it, we're in trouble. We've seen what happens. I mean, Steve was at the the Titans game where they tried that. The Amon Dole or something like a few years ago. And that did not go well. His knee brace got stuck in the ground. And he just looked like he'd been shot.

It was rough. Yeah, but but I must say they gave me a lot of practice throwing the ball, you know, what people fear to realize is back then. I was like the number three quarterback because we only had two quarterbacks on the roster. Right. Right. Yeah, because I was I think 2002. That was after they they traded you blood, so yeah. Um, and so I and I found the Boston Globe clipping that was talking like Bill Belichick after the game,

talking about how you guys were literally practiced at every week and had been for like months, but just never had the chance to call it. We pray that there's at least twice a week. We practice that way. Yeah. At least twice a week. That's bad once a year, twice a year. Yeah, if that. Yeah. Yeah, but even you can say that about all the the trick plays you see.

I mean, every time after the game, whoever ran it, like the double pass with Edelman, talking about, oh, yeah, we practice all the time. We've just never had the chance to call it. So we just don't. So it's that level of preparation, I think that right for me, sets a Patriots team apart. They're always that well prepared and always have been. That's kind of like I was telling people about that

twenty eighty three come back. I'm like, they won that game a long time before that game was even played. You know, there's certain situations that we practice as a group. And it may not be in that identical situation, but it was a situation similar to that. We had to come back and we had to score three or four touchdowns. And that ain't going to happen. That ain't going to happen.

So enough stuff happens in the Super Bowl. Right. Yeah. Of all, of all. So what you're saying is your team, me and Andy, not team Greg. Yeah. So so we can go on the record. Team fuck Greg is strong here. I like it. Greg useless.

Greg, I don't know you, Greg. So I am sorry, but you need to apologize. He's the baby. Anyway, he gets he gets plenty of love. Yeah. I was speaking to Greg, actually, he had some questions because you and him have certain things in common. OK, he thinks that you two have something in common

because you're both D1 athletes. But I think that's that's a stretch. He wrote the bench at U and H soccer. Yeah. He was saying, you know, but he claimed the same level. He claiming that D1, though. He's got a D1 double leg, too. It doesn't even count.

But he was also he's a huge little Wayne fan. So there's mentioned a little Wayne in your Wikipedia that I'm not going to get into, because, you know, it's not what we do here. Grown, I'm grown about what happened last. But really, we just kind of want to know he what was he want to know? He said, what is your favorite Wayne album? Oh. Caught a five.

Caught a five. All right. His was caught a one. Yeah. And then for mixtapes, you got a favorite mixtape? I'm looking at it, right? I'm looking at that. I can't take it a name, but I'm looking at the cover of it right now. Oh, I can't take it a name of it. Wow.

His was the drought three. That's it. That's it. Oh, wow. All right. Not the drought. Not the drought three. Not that. No. It might be one or two. All right. Might be one or two.

So I mean, Greg's wrong on that, too. That's perfect. That's exactly what I'm talking about. We're not wrong about a little Wayne, though. We're good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now, he he actually wanted people to call him. What do you want to? What was his name? A Breezy F. Baby. Don't forget the baby. Yes. He did that for like a year.

A long time. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do it, Greg. Yeah, no, yeah. Like he said, he's grown, too, but maybe not. I have some real questions. All right. Give me a real question. Were you ever close to leaving the Patriots?

Year six was my like three year. Yes and no. It was between Patriots and Tampa. And it was like, you know what? My kids are very comfortable in school. I don't make no sense to transform to another school, different friends. So I was like, you know what?

We just going to stay here. How old are your kids, then? They were like in middle school. OK. All right. That makes sense. But they were young. It didn't make sense to move on. Yeah, the money was very different.

Yes, but the money wasn't too much different. So it was like, you know, just stay. Yeah, it makes sense. And then, like, I don't know, I've always envisioned you as the first person in that role, right? That a bunch of guys have followed since. James White, Shane Green, all those different dudes. And Woodhead. Is there someone before you?

I don't even really. Or is this sort of like? This bill, this all bill. Like Bill brought me in, told me, look, I'm going to bring in these two guys. I'm going to bring in this guy. I want to make you as my third downback. And I'm like, OK, I really want to be the guy.

But third down back, and he started telling me about Metcalfe, he had at Cleveland. Oh, right. Megit at the Giants, you know, start telling about those guys. And those are all guys I watched when I was younger. So it was like, oh, what? OK. Yeah.

Like, if you know those guys, sure, sure enough, you know, I adapted to my role and there we go. Did you like beat somebody out at the time, though, was already on the team? Do you remember? Or no, it's the one that came into you. No, I think it like they had a couple of lines in the team that like could have portrayed that role.

J.R. was on the team. Patrick Past is on the team. J.R. was actually doing a lot of the third down stuff in 01, whenever we wanted to. So he was doing a lot of this because of. So, yeah, so those guys were there. Beat them up. And I imagine that probably.

Helped you in the long run to prolong your career, not having to be taking all those hits. I'm trying to think of them. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, a whole lot. Yes, definitely helped me in my career and my longevity and everything. I'm trying to think of the running back that was there.

My first year with it was me, Terry Allen. Uh, Lamont. I forgot Lamont last name, but he was like a third down type back. Jordan? No, not Lamont Jordan. Not Lamont Jordan. Lamont Jordan came later.

Yeah. He was an older guy. Lamont Warren. Yes. OK. That might be, that might, yes. Um, that, you know, kind of took me in his wing a little bit. Broke down a little bit of the third down stuff for me.

At the time I was young, I wanted to be a guy. Don't worry about him third down stuff, but he kind of broke a little bit down to me. And I kind of remember for when that time came for me. Because that's what he did. That's what he did a lot of. No kidding. Wow.

That's a name I haven't heard in a long time, Lamont Warren. Yeah. I've been trying to think of his last name for a while, too. Ha, ha, ha. And that's a great play. It's dangerous, but it's great. I'm glad you got those rosters, buddies. Gary Allen was only on a team because Robert Edwards tore his knee.

Right. Right. Right. Well, that's why I got drafted. Oh, yeah. Robert never threw his knee up. Yes. That was brutal.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Awesome. I mean, I think we talked about that on one episode and like just the severity of you like he.

He tore every single ligament in his knee and like. Yes. If they if they hadn't taken care of him the way they did, they would have had to amputate the leg or something. He was like really close. Really close. Yeah, that's what I'm going to gain watching this podcast. He was like playing for the Chiefs or something.

It was a dollar. Yeah, someone. Yeah. And he wasn't the same guy. No, you could tell. How could you be? But even the fact that he came back and played in the NFL after that is. Right.

Yeah, that's that's a bounce back. All right. So Steve asked some serious questions. So I have other ones that aren't so serious. I always loved the elbow pads. And I was wondering if there was a story behind those because the good one that they reminded me for some reason of like tire treads. And I was used to like when I was young, because I was little.

And I used to like look for tire tread to see if they matched your your elbow pads. There is a story when I first got to New England, I met a couple of guys, a few guys, like three or four guys. That we became very close, real close. And one of the guys, one of the guys was a younger guy. And he was designing, he was making or trying to design hockey pads, hockey shoulder pads, hockey pads, you know, just. And he told me that he was going to design me some pets, some football

shoulder pads. And I was like, man, don't worry about me. Look, we're just going to be cool. Me and you don't worry about. And over the years, he was like, hey, man, look, I want you to try this. Would you wear this for me? Would you wear this for me? And I'm like, explain it to me, explain why I'm wearing this.

Yeah. And he explained it to me, explained everything. And I was like, wow, OK, I get it because we do get hit here sometimes. Yeah. And when you do get hit at the right angle, you can cough up that ball. And I'm like, let me see these pads. Put them on and I took a helmet and I hit my elbow and I'm like, wow. The the the like the all the like the power of spread to all the cubes in it.

I'm like, wow, OK, I wear them, bro. Started wearing them and everybody like, man, what you get calls? Where you get this? What was that? And it was just something that he just put together at the time. Now, eventually they started he started patting and patterning them and everything. But the first couple, oh, my God. You know, it's like a gigantic chinscrap, too.

Like you're oh, yeah, that's right. Well, I put a wristband for the sweat. All right. We had a whole lot. I appreciate that. Yeah. I had like the elbow pads. I had an undershirt with some those cubes underneath my pads

to where I'll take a shot. Take a hit. It would go through all those cubes as well. That's fascinating. So it wasn't just the elbow pads. I had a little shot shirt, too. Now, no kidding, huh? Damn, where are my sorts of secrets?

Like they doing now? Like they have now? That's that's been just yeah, yeah, yeah. Revolutionary Kevin Fox. Setting those trends. I like it. Well, I wish you to patent it and still have this stuff right now. But you know how it is.

Yeah, that's how it goes. Inventors, man. Can't trust. Right. So I got some other questions from some of our listeners. So we'll go through these. We have listeners. A few more after this.

Do you tease your cousin about Super 36? I don't know. No. Because it could have easily gone the other way. Oh, that's fair. Yeah, but it didn't, though. No, it didn't. But no, I don't.

Because I mean, our family is all from England. So. Well, the one thing the current thing is like they like he really do believe that we stole signals from them. Oh, yes, he does. Doesn't he? What is that? We'll say it again.

He still believes that he's like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's tough, man. Hey, man, I'm lunch. Leave it alone. I don't even talk about it. Yes, fair. We got family in England and every once in a while, soccer will happen in England versus USA.

And I feel like I'm the only one who reps the USA in that. That's not true. Even my brothers, Greg, Greg's a big England. We are shit all over Greg today. You should have been here to defend himself. But this is what he gets when he doesn't show up. This is bad, Greg. You're not here to defend yourself.

Yeah, but I mean, any excuse to shit on a cousin for sports related things, I think is right in our family. But yeah, I can appreciate it if you if you legit thinks that you guys cheated to get there. That's that's that's a tough conversation to have. Yeah, it is. So what did you think? Like, give us some like memories from this 2004 Super Bowl run

we're about to do. Oh, yeah. We remember from those games because that. So AFC divisional was home in the snow against that historic Peyton Manning offense. And we had no secondary. Troy Brown playing a bunch of snouts. Yeah.

Oh, relentless. Like. That team knew. What. It took what it was going to take. Or whatever needed to be done. That team knew that we could get it done. However.

After. The old one season. That old two season when we didn't make the Super Bowl, but we didn't make the playoffs. Yeah, thanks a lot. A lot of guys on that team, you know, let it be known. Hey. We know what it takes.

We get back there at some point in the next two years. That's what happened. That's exactly what happened. And then the week after. Oh, the week after that was going to Pittsburgh to play Ben Rothesberger. Rookie Ben Rothesburg. Rookie Ben who had beaten you guys in Pittsburgh early in the season.

Oh, yeah. Again, yes, they beat us early in the season. Yeah, which, you know, like I know, it's tough to be some one twice in the NFL. Yeah. I know everybody's about how Miami is horrible or was back in the day. How about but do they understand how tough it was to beat those guys twice? Everybody knows everybody's tendencies.

Everybody knows what you're going to do when you're going to do it. It's like, OK, stop me. Right. All it is. Yeah, and can you? Because, yeah, I mean, I mean, even the Buffalo Bills, you guys had. Unbelievable, unparalleled success against them, home or away. But right at the end of the day, none of those games were really blows.

They're all close games. Just pulled them out every time. Miami Dolphins were nervous to go over that every year. Yeah, is there something about Miami like in Miami that's that's tough? At least I got myself out every year. Is that what it is? That's all it is. Yeah, it's just it's a psyche thing, man. That's all you go into.

You go into a hot climate. Yeah, so we're definitely going to lose week one this year. Right. Open Miami. First time. First time in Miami, baby. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. I got to ask you this. You did convert that fourth and two, right?

Like, I will I will I will die on that hill. That that was a conversion. You got a screw job by the rest. I think I got it. The guy tried to say that I bop with the ball. But even if you did, he's still still crossed the line that you needed to. Look, I was sick sick that that whole evening. When it happened after it happened the next morning until I walked in the building

and I walked in the building, we were going, I guess we were going to work out, watch them and everything. And Coach Secretary was was waiting and he was like, yeah, if coach want to see you, I'm like, OK, going to coach's office and he just wanted to reiterate to me that let me know that hey, if I had the opportunity to call that play again, have that situation again, I'm calling the same play. So that that right there, just let me know, you know, don't worry about nothing good.

Yeah, that's got to feel good to have your coach like that. Right, right, right. What's coach fears like? Oh, great guy, great guy. Just kind of like everybody is like a little something that Bill is not. Bill is not a real big talk, wasn't a real big talker, talks more now. Those guys, you know, held all the talking down for you.

But attention to detail. Had to know what you was doing. If you didn't know what you were doing, you weren't going to play for him at all. But a good person, really good person and coach. So he's he just retired this past year, right? Yeah, yes, sir. You have coached your high school team. Yes. And you've coached your college team.

Yes. Is the next step being coached for the Patriots in any capacity? We can see we can wait to see. I don't know. All right. We'll see. All right. It doesn't sound like a no to me. I'll tell I'll take that. Well, it's definitely not no no. Definitely not.

That would be like a trifecta. Are you kidding me? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That'd be like, you know, you dream about stuff like that. That's full circle. Yeah, I like that. Right. They might be mad at me just preseason, though, when they see me. I don't know about that. Because I'm mad at Kevin Falk. Yeah, why would they be mad at you?

Because I would be in another uniform. No. Really? Yeah, well, you know, not a uniform, but just another another color. Well, just for the preseason. Just tell me it's not Tampa Bay and I'm right. It might be worse. Tampa Bay. It might be worse.

It's not the Jets. It can't be the Jets. No, I think the Jets. All right, good. It doesn't matter. You can do it in the hell you want. As long as not the Jets. Not the Jets. All right, that's good to know.

Interesting. Yeah, I'm doing the bill was staying with the Giants this year. Oh, cool. Cool. Cool. That'll be interesting. Yeah, because I like your answer just about cool. Yeah. Hey, man, haven't you back in the NFL? I don't even care. Like Kevin Falk's back.

I'll take it. I'll take whatever. It's all good. Yeah. So I got I'm doing about three, three weeks, four weeks with them. And it's just it's just so happened as the first preseason game is in Fox girl. So you're coaching in Fox. Well, that's close enough. Oh, yeah, we'll get a little baby steps, right?

A little baby steps, a little baby. Get you back. I love it. All right. So I got one more thing here. OK, go ahead. I want to hear. Kind of the story behind when you came out to announce the draft pick and you were wearing a jersey, but it wasn't yours.

And just so happened to be of a player who had just been suspended by Roger Goodell, who is standing right next to you for four games. How does that happen? Man. It's the day of the draft, the morning of the draft. And I get a phone call like an unknown number. You guys know now that you don't back then. I was an unknown numbers.

Oh, no. But for some reason, I picked it up. I don't know why I picked it up. Hey, Kevin, man, I don't say, oh, how are you doing? Hey. Don't want to make you think that you have to do this, man. We just want to see if you're on board with this. What do you think about wearing a Tom Brady jersey?

Whenever you announced the draft pick. I'm like, when the time break, you see, I wouldn't mind, but I don't have a Tom Brady jersey on me. Right. They're like, don't worry. There's going to be one in your room when you get there. So who was those making this phone call? Do you know?

Oh, guys, I can't tell you that. It's fair enough. Fair enough. It was Tom. He didn't have his number. No, it's not him. It's not him. No, I wouldn't lie about that.

It wasn't him. He didn't know nothing about it. He didn't know nothing about it. Little deniability. Yeah. Well, trust me, it wasn't him. But he returned the favor, though, right? It's your.

Yeah. The retirement ceremony. Yeah, he came out and Kevin talked to us. Yes, yes. That's pretty dope. Hello. Some of the smallest things in the world. That was awesome.

That was like very. Yeah. Yeah. When he walked in, I'm like, OK, OK. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, because that's not something he does very often,

either, is it? No, no. He's a busy man. So definitely. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I got to go check him out in Tampa, too, though. You got a couple of my guys out there. Oh, does it?

From LSU. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah. You can make sure you treat them right, yeah? Yeah. Trust me, he is. All right. You got to think about it.

Just think about all the Super Bowls he's won. There's been a running back from LSU on the team, or somebody from LSU close to it. That's right. Yeah, because Steven Ridley, right? He was from LSU. Yeah. Oh, man.

And then, Ligaret, no, who am I thinking of? I am Morgan. Letter for Nett. Letter for Nett, that's what I'm thinking, yes. Yeah. Oh, man, oh, look at that. I thought I was one with the stats. Yeah, he didn't even know it existed.

Getting shown up by Kevin Falk. What a surprise. That's the one I knew. That's just, well, that's a good one, though. That's a good one. He actually told me that. He was like, always got to have LSU back on my team. He told me that.

That's awesome. Oh, man. All right, Steve, you got any more questions? Well, I just have one favor. Oh, OK. You know, we're the Browns. So obviously, Troy Brown is our favorite patriot, and no disrespect.

None at all. Just if he knew we existed, that would just make my life. Text him, you know? Hey, Troy, he's crazy three Brown bros doing a podcast, and they love you. That's all I know you. Yeah, Steve, as every guest we have on, who has any relation to the Patriots whatsoever,

if they will, next time they talk to Troy Brown, mention us. So. I don't even know if you talk to him at all. I can do that. This is the talk we've ever come. It is actually, yeah. He's so busy, worried about coaching right now. Oh, yeah, that's true.

He ain't coming on the podcast. I've given that dream up. Yeah, no, I don't think you're going to get that, buddy. Just knowing I exist is enough. I think he, I think he worried about making it to the playoffs. Yeah, he's worried. He's worried about that week one preseason game. It's a giant, I bet.

Yeah, came in. It's not bad. Hey, one game at a time, man. You can't look forward. That's right. Y'all crazy. That's true. All right.

So last question for you is, do you have any questions for us? No, not at all. Oh, don't stop sending the highlights, man. Just keep them coming. Oh, hell yeah. Bro, I have a website dedicated to to these sorts of things because I'm a nerd. It's ridiculous.

And I use my power for good. Well, I use my power for nerd, to be honest. I have a stack of them and we're still going through, like I said, the 2004 season. So we're putting even more into the system. So they ain't going to stop for a while. OK, coming. So don't you worry about it.

We got years. So do you are watching together or like you may watch one game then watch one game or. So me and Steve, we will spend the week and we'll watch it by ourselves and then we'll come together and we'll talk about it. Greg just shows up without having watched the game pretty much every week. Yeah, pretty much because he's that brother.

He's a freelancer. Hmm. He's something. He's a little brother. You know, he's a lot of work is what he is. Oh, y'all say he's the youngest. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, but that's that's that gets it. Right. They don't have no worries.

Tell me about it. It's right here and he's right there. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, he'll watch a highlight sometimes. That's that's all he needs. Yeah, I watched Chris Berman talk about it for like two and a half minutes. That's enough, right? Exactly. Wow.

Yeah. So, you know, the fact he's not here is not a huge surprise because it's no. That's Greg Brown. It's on brand. Yeah. But we appreciate that you were here. This has been like the coolest thing we've done on this podcast by a long shot. They said we really appreciate it. Yeah. And yeah, look forward to your your highlights. They'll keep coming. Appreciate it. Cool.

All right, Kevin, thank you so much. We'll talk to you soon, man. Take it easy.