Patriots Dynasty Podcast - Bonus Episode: Tyrone Poole Interview

Episode Date: May 2, 2023

The brothers (and Tim the Intern) were once again able to convince one of their real-life heroes to join them to talk old school Patriots football! Except for Greg, who is still adhering to his "don't meet your heroes" rule after discovering Dave Meggett's extracurricular activities.You've heard us talk about him, but now listen to us talk to him: Tyrone Poole joins the podcast to answer all your burning questions!Links:tyronepoole38foundation.orgtyronepoole38.comSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. Welcome back to the Page of Stylency podcast. I'm your host, Andy Brown. We have a special edition this week. We're taking a little quick break from the usual game recaps. We were in 2005, but we thought we would talk to somebody who was there in 2005 and was playing in these games. So I'm not talking about Greg Brown. He's decided to skip this, but I do have C

Brown with me and Tim, the intern. But enough about them. Let's introduce you to our special guest tonight. We have with us Tyrone Pool, a two-time Super Bowl champion, former Patriots, former lots of teams, actually, and kind of all around good human Tyrone Pool. Thanks for joining us, Tyrone. Thank you, Andrew. Thank you, Steve, Kim. Thank you, guys, and all of the Patriots fans that watched this show. It's an honor. It's an honor. Thank you, guys, for giving me the opportunity. Oh, I really appreciate it. Yeah, you don't have to lie to us, Tyrone. It's not really

an honor. Oh, no. Anytime, you know, I'm dead. That's just who I am. You know, it's always an honor really to be able to talk to the fans or whomever may listen to the show, because every time it's like a smile, you know, or as they would say, you never get an opportunity to make another first impression. So, you know, people are always going to remember the moments of how you made them feel. And so, yeah, it's always an honor to be able to share and reminisce, you know, present and past information. So, yeah, it is an honor. Cool. I love that. So, yeah, I kind of, speaking of reminiscing, I don't want to obviously,

you know, read the Patriots' Dynasty podcast. So, we'll talk about the past, but I kind of want to just maybe even start a little bit before that and kind of want to know, like, what got you into football? What made you passionate about playing football, like, as a career? How did that start? Yeah, well, what got me into football? I think honestly, all males, and you have females playing sports as well, you know, sometimes they come up in households where, you know, it's an athletic family. But I came up as an only child, and my only competition was my environment. But in the neighborhood, we played, man, we played, we would just play sand lot, football,

you know, wherever there was grass, you know, we would play, you know, in the streets, you know, the only thing about playing in the streets is when a car comes down the road, we have to stop the game, everybody go to their size, like your ox, and you go to your side, that car passed by, and then we started back playing. But I think every young male grows up watching sports on television. And from that moment of seeing sports on television, which I ran track, I played football as well, probably could have played baseball. But, you know, football was one of those sports where we played it almost every day in the neighborhood. So not only seeing it on television, which back in the day when I came up, you

would only see the Dallas Cowboys, you know, television. So you either love the Cowboys or you hated the Cowboys. But, you know, I'm from Georgia, LaGrange, Georgia. So for those who don't know, LaGrange is about about an hour and 15 minutes southwest of Atlanta. So I grew up watching the Atlanta Falcons too, you know, and all that red, the red uniform, you know, but yeah, so that's how it kind of started just growing up watching it on television and going outside playing it with arguably some of the greatest people in my neighborhood, guys that were faster than me. So if anybody thought I was fast or strong or quick, wow, you should have laid eyes on some of the guys who used to beat

me and run it. Yeah, I feel like that's kind of what, because we have a baby brother who kind of grew up playing with us too, but we were kind of the same sort of thing. He was always playing with the faster, bigger kids and he is the only one in the family that actually went on to play sports in college. So I feel like there's something to that of being able to like kind of spend all that time playing with people that make you up your game constantly and then you get to the people that are your same age or whatever it is and you've kind of got this advantage over them. I don't know, Andy, we weren't very fast or strong or big.

Let's be real. I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about our friends that we played with. You know, you guys know the funny thing, you know, Andrew, you mentioned playing with guys that are older and that is how I believe I was, I kind of separated myself from my other peers because when you play with older kids, they have the advantage not only from maturity, but you know, just the ability to just physically throw you around and basically that's what they did. You know, we played with the older kids and, you know, they grab you and throw you around and, you know, it made me tougher. So guys, my age is like me and amongst boys

because I was being trained by the older kids to be able to dominate the kids the same age. Yeah, that's why I take credit for Greg's athletic accomplishments. You made him the man that he is now. Do you really want that on your record, Andy? That's what you're going down for. So Tyrone, as far as the other sports go, playing baseball, what position were you when you played baseball? Well, again, I didn't play organized. Okay, nothing organized.

Yes, but, but, but when we did select teams because, you know, you always have like the two best athletes, really, right? You don't want to put them on the same team. Right. Right. Oh, they would actually have to pick teams. All right. Sometimes I was one of those guys, okay, Tyrone, you pick a team and such, such you pick a team. But when I did play, I love pitching. I love pitching. I love pitching, but yeah, but I would be like on first base, first base or either a shortstop. So it was

either pitching, first base or either shortstop. All right. You have a like a sports hero growing up that you looked up to? Oh, yeah. Again, like I said, I grew up watching the Dallas Cowboys and Tony Dorsett, Tony Dorsett. And I think actually Ty, I think Ty Law and, you know, the Dorsett family, I think they're kind of like, got some relation, family relationship going on there, history of their family. So Tony Dorsett, Dallas Cowboy number 33. So I used to take a t-shirt and whatever we would go out and play, I would take a crayon or a marker and I would put 33 on the front and 33 on the back and right door set. And yeah, so that, that was the

guy that I tried to say I was Tony Dorsett. So yeah. So then how did you end up with number 38 in the pros? Just because 33 wasn't available or was there another reason for 38? Yeah, you know, it's a little bit of history with that as well. When I played in high school, I was 21, 21. And I walked on, I actually quit football in high school. Football in high school still made it to the pros. So, you know, everybody that you could mess up in life and you still, if you know where you're going, you still could make it to your destination. Okay.

Yeah, that's the thing. You can go all the way around, but you still could make it. But 21 was my number in high school. And then when I got to college, I walked on at Fort Valley State, HBCU division 22. And they gave me the number 29, 29. And then when I went to the senior bowl, the senior bowl, somebody else had 29 and they gave me 28. All right. So now I have 28. So if you look at all my senior bowl cards, it has jersey number 28. So when the Panthers drafted me, and I never really talked to the Panthers, never talked to them during the combat, never talked to them, period. All of a sudden, I know that they're drafting me. So this draft

coming up, you know, some players will get chosen. They never talk to the team. But when they drafted me, somebody else had 28. Okay. Somebody else had 28. So they ended up giving me 38. So that's how I came about the number 38. And when you played for the Patriots, did that ever come up that you got picked one pick before Ty Law? Do you ever bring that up to them? No, no, actually, you know, Ty and I go back into the, you know, all the way back to the combines. And, you know, we got our stories there. And, you know, I'll tell you this. You know, sometimes I think you can get drafted into a system that really doesn't fit your

skills. And there's going to be a lot of players that's going to, that's going to happen to them as well. You know, teams are going to draft them because they are the best possible athlete. But do they fit that system? And coming out of Fort Valley, we played nothing but man to man, man to man. It's how we played man to man coverage. I didn't know anything about zone. I'm like, we only play zone where we had the game one. And it's about three minutes left in the game. We sit back on a cover three. But other than that, it was like, you go get him, you go get him. So I was great at man to man coverage. And when I got to New England, actually, that was probably the, let me go back, let me go back before I got

to New England. With the Denver Broncos, Ray Rose, I don't know if anybody, you guys remember Ray Rose, but Ray Rose had a stint as a coach with the 49ers back in the Bill Walsh days. And then he was a coach in Philadelphia Eagles. And then he was the defensive coordinator, my defensive coordinator out with the Broncos. And, you know, Ray Bob, they call him Ray Bob. And he got a lot of stories, man. I love Ray Rose. He's a great players coach because he played the game as well. So Ray was all about running man to man. So his system just fit me like hand and glove, man. But my previous teams, nothing against, you know, none of those teams, nothing against the Panthers. I love my years in the Panthers. Love my years

with the Colts. But they were more of the fire zone, Pittsburgh stillers. So really, we're not truly playing man to man. But then when I got to New England from Denver, Denver, all man to man, and then we get to New England, Bill, you know, allowed me and Ty to play man to man, you know, previously, Ty would go from one side to the other. But Bill felt like, hey, you know, when I got there in 2003, you know, hey, we both can stay on our respective sides and whoever we get, that's who we get, you know. So that was fun. But yeah, Ty and I go back to the, you know, the combines. Yeah, the combines. But again, I'll say this, I'll let you guys ask your next question. Coming from my HBCU, it was a whole lot of

pressure, man, a whole lot of pressure. And when I say pressure, it was more pressure mentally. Nothing physically, nothing physically, I'm like, you know, I'm covering arguably one of the best receivers twice a year, Jerry Rice, you know, you got to get your track shoes on when you cover that. So it wasn't the physical play that was tough. It was the mental, you know, the playbook in college was like man to man, it was like, you know, that big, and then you get to the pros. And it's like that thick and you know, one movement or one shift by one person or running back, motioning out to the right or to the left or tight end, getting up, moving over or receiver, you know, forming twins, it changes the whole

complexity of the defense. And you could be on the strong side, that motion. Now you're on the weak side, which now you got to go to a whole different technique. So that was kind of like my struggle, my first, second year, third year. And really, I didn't catch on to the game until maybe my fifth year. But you know, the powders had given up on me. And hey, this kid is not going to, you know, he's not going to get it, man. It wasn't it had nothing to do with my physical skills. It was the mental. So that's why I always try to tell these young kids from HBC use that, you know, you got to study the game, the game is so complex. Now, do they have the physical skills to play it? Yes. But it's the mental

that sometimes doesn't give, you know, those athletes that opportunity, because you're not, you're not getting reps anyways, when you go into a camp, you're probably going to be a low draft pig. So low draft pigs don't get a lot of reps doing mini camps. So how are you going to learn, you know, but anyways, back to the point. But yeah, coming from HBC you to see Carolina jump up, you know, so many spots. I'm like, you know, at that time, I didn't know, you know, what type of skills I had, but evidently, they did. And I played my best ball one of my best seasons when I got to New England, and Bill again, same thing Ray Rose did. He said, we're going to play man to man. Yeah, we drop off and cover two,

you know, every once in a while. But really, man to man, that's how we played in 2003. We called it all one. So let with him again, it's in my variable and let them guys go from the side and, you know, put pressure on the quarterback and, you know, we cover them up on the outside. So it was fun. So did Belichick teach it any different than other coaches? Yeah, that was going to be a question. You know, every coach has their own, should I say their own identity. And I played for some great coaches, Dom Capers, Dom Capers. I think Dom Capers, the coach of Carolina, he was a true, your responsibility, you know, do your job. So to speak of what

they said in New England, do your job. What Dom Capers with that Blitzberg defense or the zone Blitz defense, it was predicated on every person being in their gap and do what you're supposed to do. You know, if you're supposed to be in the A gap, stay in the A gap, you're in the B gap, stay in the B gap, C gap, don't do somebody else's job. That's how the zone Blitz is basically, it maximizes itself. So Dom was more of a, you know, exes and olds guy. When I played for Mike Shaddenhand, Mike Shaddenhand, Denver Broncos, he was more of a player's coach, meaning he'll treat you like a man. He treated everybody like a man. And he gave some rules. And as long as you stay within those rules, it was fun.

So I always say that Mike Shaddenhand added years, he'll add years to your career, you know, with their subcoach, they just straight take years away from your career. When it comes to Belichick, Belichick was probably one of the greatest coaches that I've come across that was able to make adjustments, make adjustments. I'm like, I thought he was phenomenally making adjustments. I'm like, we'll build the sideline. And if something is not working, you know, that's why I always tell people now we were watching any of the Patriots games. I say, Oh, Bill, I'm not talking to him. He'll talking to him, whatever they did previously, they're about to change it. He's a great adjustment maker of the game. So, you know, I played

for some pretty good, pretty good coaches, learning something from all of them. You have any good Belichick stories from your time there? Wow. You know, again, I guess, you know, I'm a clear the air on this. A lot of people think that Belichick is that guy who's like, does he have a smile? Does he ever, you know, the times that I was in New England, I liked it. I liked it. I enjoyed it. But he was a type of guy that he had his funny moments. He had his funny moments. I think I thought he was a good motivator as well. You know, he would come in on Wednesday's practice, which is usually the first actual official practice preparation for Sunday's game. And

he would always have his film. And these are the people that we need to stop, you know, this guy, he would always have his stories about each guy that we need to stop, you know, and but there's one particular game we're playing against the, the Colts in the actually might have been the, it's the 2005, it'll be the 2005 AFC Championship game, the two that season rose into the 2004 and then 2004 season rose into the 2005, even though it's a 2004 season, just finding how that thing works. But either way, we're playing the Colts and I always tell people, Belichick is always, always in the game. And Peyton tries to throw a seven route, a quarter route to Marvin Harrison on the left side of the defense. And Rodney

Harrison and Tyler are on that side. So the ball get picked off a lot of people probably see this video. He picks the ball off, Tyler picks the ball off, you know, keeps his balance. And Marvin, Rodney hits by Marvin Harrison and he goes out of bounds right beside Belichick. And you don't really see it, you know, from the cameras that they show you on television, you actually see it from the coaches cam, you know, which shows you everything. It's just amazing how this guy was into the game, even at that moment. And because Marvin had gone out of bounds on our sideline, you know, Marvin is the only one in my eyes that could catch or try to make a play on time. So, you know, Belichick, you know, being the smart

coach he is, you know, creates a little bit of, I call it just being in reposition himself. You know, Marvin had to actually run through him to get there. And then another situation that just shows how Belichick is so smart. He's always into the game. We're playing at Denver Broncos in 2003. And we're down, I think. Oh, the intentional safety game, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. That was a smart move because he felt that's just how good our defense was. And I tell people, yes, you know, Tom, Tom is one of the best quarterbacks I ever played, played with, you know, I played with Peyton Mann in his rookie year. I got stories about Peyton. I got stories about Tom. But in 2003,

I felt like our defense was the strongest, you know, point of that season. But in that Denver Bronco game, yeah, Bill elected to go for the safety, which a Broncos, the Broncos more points, but actually bought us more yards so we could do a free kick from the 20. Because if not, if he had not given the safety, I told the snapper to snap the ball through the uprights, then our punter would have been punting from the back of the end zone, which Broncos probably got the ball around the 50. And then boom, you know, a couple of plays here and there to kick a field, run the clock out. So we get the free kick at the 20. Delta O'Neill basically, I underestimated the ball and his start rolling and our defense went

out there and went three and out. And actually, you know, they didn't move the ball at all. The Broncos didn't move the ball at all. They end up putting the ball, we get the ball back on the 50. And then we go down and score touchdown and win the game. So I'm like, you know, that was good on the field adjustment and knowing what's going on to put your team in a situation to win. So yeah, a lot of great stories. The real question though is how is it going to feel about you showing up to this podcast a little bit late? So they say it's better late than never, right?

The best act, if you look at all kinds of concerts, they never bring the true act on it. Oh, Steve. How is it going to go to you? So so we just reviewed week two of 2005. And in preparation for that, I found some interesting an interesting article in the Boston Globe. Well, let's tell them that it was it was against the Panthers. It was the Super Bowl rematch from right, right, right, right, yeah. So yeah, so I found a quote from him that he was saying in preparation to that week two game. He said about you. He said that you had spit on him in the Super Bowl after the first drive. And he said about you. He said,

then he started calling me names. He's a Christian and he wasn't cursing at me, but he was just calling me some names that in my book was still cussing. So I said, look here, dog, you're going to shut up and I'm going to make you shut up. I was hot. I was very hot. Do you ever hear anything about him saying that about you? You know what? People will say, you know, what they say at the end of the day, what I believe is that we are all one fraternity. We're football players, just like you guys, you guys are one fraternity. You guys are reporters. So your job is to create stories. Our job is when we're on the field, the brothers, the other player against one another, we get

heated situations. But at the end of the day, when it's all said and done, will we help each other in a tough situation or a situation where, you know what? On the field, we were gladiators, but off the field, you know what? Hey, how can I help you, my brother? That's what I see and that's what I hear. So at the end of the day, you guys are the one that pepper, pepper, you know, you kind of pepper and, you know, you want to get stories. It's like you guys are the ones that want to raise the dead. But I understand, that's what you do and that's what you guys are called to do. But it's just like anything, you know, hey, things happen, heated a moment, words are said, or in an article, whatever the case

may be. But at the end of the day, you look at everybody's heart and everybody's mind set. Then yes, you know what? We all love each other. So that's why I say we all want to be fraternity and we get on the field. I don't care if he's against your brother, you know, you're going to be competitive. You're going to say things. Especially against your brother. So at the end of the day, you know, hey, it's, it's war. It's war. And but at the, when things are over, you know, it's all love. It's all love. So like I said, I'm pretty sure, you know, there's nothing below. I'm pretty sure Steve saw me on the side of the road. And

I said, hey, flag them down. Yeah, you know what? Get help out. Or if I saw him in a situation, I think we will sit and we will help each other out. So it's only the media that wants to create chaos because we get it. We get 100%. That's why you guys never really get true answers out of us because you're not really digging for the truth. What you're doing is you're trying to promote. And you're actually, we all know that negativity sells papers. And if you got negative, you know, that's what what happens. But I like the way you guys try to try to try to try to pull that in. We just wanted to do it. We have your back in this 100% just so you know.

I put it to you like this. There is no story. Okay. It's not right. And that's not, I don't know if I like to be lumped in with media here. I know. Yeah. Really just mom. Shout out mom rendition. You are, you are media. Let's be, let's be as well. I'm media as well. You know, I do, I do podcast shows too. So, you know, I can easily turn around and say, Hey, you know what? There's this guy, Steve on this, Patriots podcast, you know, that guy is no good, man. It doesn't look like he brushes hair. Like he may have some, some, yeah, so media too. But the point is what we try to do in

the media is, you know, just to understand and let the fans help the fans understand. You know, just like with Ray Lewis, you know, people still try to bring stuff up about Ray. But people don't talk about the good things or what they try to do. Just like what, you know, anybody, I'm not going to punch you guys out, but anybody, you know, they try to let you sleep, get you in. And normally, to be honest with you, I always try to ask people, okay, when you do an interview, what are we talking about? What are we talking about? Because you never want to be, you know, hit with something from left field. And that is just called, you know, respect. And so that's how you get people to come back. And

that's how you get people to say, tell other players, you know what, man, don't even mess around with that. But at the end of the day, like I said, no matter anybody, you or Andy or Andrew or Kim, you know, Steve, that's something in your past that, you know, the reason why nobody know about it because don't nobody know who you are, you know, but if somebody were to dig into your past and they'll find out maybe Steve, maybe you dated somebody who was underage, you know, you know, but all the time about Steve, but I just want to clarify, I would have started out with that. Had I known that that was something that you wanted, Tyrone, but I just found it interesting when we were leading up to

that. I wasn't trying to catch up. I wasn't trying to catch up with that or anything. Were games against your former teams different in any way? Like would you gear up a little bit more for them or was it just another game? Again, I think people actually, you always want to show up and you want to show out. And if you have a brother, I think you want to always show your brother that you're better than your brother. Or again, if you've been under a past relationship and say your ex, she shows up with a guy who looks a ton better than you, you know, you want to try to put your best foot forward or vice versa. If you have now a guy can have found another girl

and his previous girlfriend, if they had the same event, she's going to make sure that she's looking her best. So I just think that's human, humanistic. That's a human characteristic that we show up and if we are going against someone that we're familiar with, that we're going to make sure that we always put our best foot forward. I agree. It's easy to show up your brother's friend. They're Andy and Greg, though. Just showing up shows them up. Say that one again. I didn't hear you. It's easy to show up my brother's. It's not, though. Not when you see it. Good effort, though. So I think we've covered most of your patience career, but you've been doing a

ton after football. So like we were, you know, we all kind of went down the rabbit hole of all the different things that you've been doing since football. And it's quite a list. You've written a book. You do athletic and football training. You do keynote speaking. You are on American Ninja Warrior at the age of 47, which I think the three of us will be lucky if we make it to the age of 47. Never mind compete at an athletic event. So I think that's really cool. But I couldn't actually find the full, the full episode of that American Ninja Warrior. So I was curious how, how you actually fared because it just showed like the beginning, the intro of it, and it didn't actually show you doing the competition. So

I was kind of left a cliffhanger. So I'm wondering how that worked out. Well, you probably take that up with the Ninja Warrior company. Oh, I will write them a letter. Don't you worry? Yeah, I probably want to write them a letter. Yeah, but I made it to the finals. I definitely want to make it to the finals. That's awesome. That's awesome. Also, I just wanted to point out when I was watching that video, the video, I was the, the view number 328, which felt poetic. Because every time I see the number 328 come up, that is just, it's attached to the Patriots now with that

fountain comeback. 28, 30, maybe, yep. So yeah, do you have kind of, I guess, we kind of asked for questions too from some of our, I don't know if they actually listened, but we'll call them listeners. And one of them was, what would you say is your greatest accomplishment this far in your life, be it football or not football? What was my accomplishment, crazy accomplishment? Yeah, you're kind of your greatest accomplishment so far in your life. So far in life?

Yeah. Yeah. I actually, I'll let you guys actually say that. So, you know, what I'm about to present, you mentioned some of the things, but one of the things I have, I created my own label, my own company, work that thing supplements, you know, for over 22, 22 plus years of business, my body was my business. So what my daughter and I have created is a company called Work That Thing and supplements, health products and apparel. So I said it is crazy, but it's something that is a generational thing that, you know, not only does it give her an opportunity

to go into, because she's an athlete herself. She's got track, the 400, 200, great little young female athlete. So she is now in entrepreneurship. So she now can build her own image up and now she can sell and be the face of her own company and actually sell her products to other athletes. Because just like we all go and try to find athletes to promote our products, again, she is the face of her own company and she can always, people ask her, hey, how do you run so fast? Well, my supplement company, I take my own supplements. So that's a great thing. The other thing is basically, you know, we created our own cross trainers, cross trainers. So, you know, Michael Jordan, you know, well, we have our own shoes. Well, so I knew a shift

basis called Work That Thing Cross Trainers. So it's a very unique, very unique shoe. This is the first round of shoes. Great cross trainer. And what we're also doing with this, we are giving back to the underserved communities. So what we ask people to do, and you guys, three of you guys, you guys get more than welcome, you can go to Tyrone Pool 38 Foundation. And we're asking people to help sponsor the shoe so that we can give them away for free to the underserved communities. I'm doing a lot of stuff in my hometown of the grains, Georgia. And actually, Atlanta, and what I want to do is go to all the cities that I played in. So we're coming to Boston, Carolina, Indianapolis, and the foundation is basically

giving back to the community, you know, give back to the community. So, yeah, so some of the crazy things that, you know, we've done, I've done life after football is to help impact people's lives. And to, you know, let them know, like I said, I quit football in high school. So to let them know that you still can make it even though you mess up in closing, you know, it comes with your own box that actually I signed it, I signed the box. So this becomes a great trading card, because there would never be another pair, work that thing shoes, at least not the first original pair, you may get the second, third, fourth, but you would never get the first original pairs like the first original pair of Jordans,

you know, there would never be another original pair of Jordans. So those, so those are some of the things that, you know, me and my kids are doing, and, you know, trying to teach them how to be and have an impact on society. So if you want to call it a crazy, then, I don't know, Beyonce say, I'm crazy, crazy. Andy, how many pairs have you bought already? Well, we're definitely, we're definitely going to sponsor one as a podcast. We'll do that. So we can absolutely get one of these. Okay. We'll give it away to somebody who deserves it.

And also, I appreciate you guys, even with the, even with the book, you know, book, I'm like, you know, it's a great powerful reader. You know, it says ultimate success in the game of life, but really, ultimate success is not about money. Ultimate success is about when you achieve what you set out to do, even though there were obstacles and opposition and things that tried to hinder you. That's where you have ultimate success. So whether it's in sports, we have ultimate success and winning Super Bowls, when other teams were trying to hinder, try to stop, delay, they could delay us, but could not deny us. So basically this book is all about 12 dynamic principles that help you understand how to

have ultimate success in your life. And one thing I do know is that life is principles. Life is based off of principles. We all have our different experiences with those principles, but we all going to go through the same principles, some type of trial, test or temptation. Okay. We just go through the different experiences. But in this book, I just share some of the things that I overcame, you know, financially, in poverty, financial lack of finances, but that didn't stop me. Quit football in high school. That didn't stop me. Went to a HBCU. That didn't stop me. Got traded from Carolina to Indianapolis. That didn't stop me. So in life, you're going to have obstacles. The key is, do you have the right tools to

help you overcome those situations and those oppositions? So that's what the purpose of ultimate success in the game of life is. So you guys can check that out as well at TyronePool38.com. So I would tell people, if you can remember my name, first name, my last name, and my football number, then you got my website. Yeah, we'll put those in the show notes too. All right. People have it. They can take on it. That's awesome.

I appreciate that, guys. See, Andy, there's hope for you to do every single game from the Pages Dynasty as an episode. We only have 538 more, whatever it might be. Yeah, no, we can definitely do this. I feel much more inspired now. So this is great. So, all right, we've taken enough of your time, Tyrone. Thank you so much for being here. Boys, did you have any last questions you had for Tyrone before we let him go? No, I've already asked my stupid question. Yeah, me too.

All right, we'll tie it on. Thank you so much for being here. This was a pleasure. I really appreciate it. Good luck with all of your stuff you got going on. And do you have any predictions for the Pages before we let you go this season? For this season, you know, actually, football is one of those games that I tell people, you got to play it on the field. Rasta wise, you know, everybody can look good. I've been a part of teams where, you know, we had talent, but there was no chemistry. There was no chemistry. And the team, if the Patriots continue to develop their chemistry and continue to

bring talent on, of course, you need talent to win. But you also got to have that chemistry with the team. So I believe that, you know, Bill is coming down to the end of his, you know, his legacy and he's been coaching for a long time. Then Bill's like 70 something years old. So I do believe that he wants to, you know, lead the game on top and he's going to get those guys everything that he can. So I think the Patriots going to have a real good season, but it's going to be tough because everybody is getting better. Even the Detroit Lions are getting better. So that says a lot about where football has moved into. It's true. Yeah, they are, they are a bellwether for the NFL and its success. All right, great.

Well, thank you again. We really appreciate this. And until next week, we will see you later. Right. Thank you guys again. Thanks. That was awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Really appreciate it.