Patriots Dynasty Podcast - Emergency Episode: Dynasty 2.0?

Episode Date: March 20, 2021

Bill Belichick saw Tom Brady leave last offseason and win a Super Bowl with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Turns out he didn't like that, and has waged war on the league via the 2021 free agency period. Listen to the Brothers give awful predictions and pontificate about players they know nothing about (as per usual); but this time it's current players, not ones from 20 years ago!Also: since we recorded this last night (Thursday) our info is already outdated. Welcome back David Andrews you big beauty!Notes:Here's the Jonnu Smith video Greg brought up.Here's the latest Patriots depth chart.And here's the official Patriots Free Agent Tracker.Don't forget to text us your thoughts on the Dynasty Hotline! Tell us what we got wrong, or how our predictions won't come true. [phone]Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is Christine Brown and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty, you have the choice not to. My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really, they're just being stupid. You still want to listen? Go right ahead. I am not your mother. All right. Welcome back to the Dynasty Podcast emergency episode because this is worth interrupting our season for, I think, boys. Should we do the emergency weather service noise? This one? Yes.

Kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So obnoxious. What is it? The weather service noise. Hit us with it again.

Awesome. No, I'm not. I'm not your monkey, Steve. I'm just a dang it and you can cut it and then redo it. Yeah, I could. Yes. Another thing I hate about those is when they do it on the TV and they have that robot voice doing it. Oh, yeah. Why can't you just have a human make that, say the words and then just play that?

I think they do around here. You want someone to actually read it live or you want a human voice instead of a robot voice? Or just, I mean, it doesn't take that much effort to make it less obnoxious than what it is. I think it's supposed to be obnoxious. Yeah. To grab your attention.

Yeah. Mandy's right. What they should really do is get your voice to do it because that is really obnoxious. Oh, good one. Hey, Steve. So yeah, so we are talking, it's not even football season, but I feel like Tom Brady left this offseason, which we did an emergency episode for. And this season, Bill Belichick decided to take that personally and has signed pretty

much the entire free agency field of players. Would you say? No. Good portion. I would not say. I would. I'm going to say that. At least until this point, this is Thursday, March 18th.

So they've signed pretty much everybody they fucking wanted to starting with even before free agency started before the quote unquote legal tampering period started. They traded back for Trent Brown. So they retreated for him. I don't know the best way to word that. I think traded again, re re re acquired three players who've been traded twice, brought him back in the fold. Yeah.

So that's why I wear a bosom of Gillette of Foxborough. That's why I have my Dion branch jersey on today in honor of Patriots that have left and you have their jersey and then they come back and you're like, whoa, yeah, back in style, baby. Everyone with a cow. They know it. Yeah. Yeah.

Or Patrick. Oh, Ted Karris, Ted Karris, his mom is like, thank God, I can wear this thing again. She throws a dolphins one in the trash. She didn't buy a dolphins on who you kidding? Yeah. So I mean, they've had a busy off season so far because they've also re signed a bunch of players as well, including quarterback Cam Newton. You boys have thoughts on that?

Yeah, you're new. Well, when they first dropped it, it was like the 14 million number. Everyone freaked out. Right. Then it was five million and that was way more about it. All upside. No downside. You got paid five million last year.

So you bring them back for the same price and see what else you can do with it and put some people around them, let them have a second year in the system with maybe an off season. You would hope that last year. And if you run that floor out again, maybe it's a little higher because all the guys I signed, but I hope, you know, the other side gets someone else. I think we should. I think we should close with this question, you know, because that's ultimately what

you think you do a quarterback. Exactly. That's the only like pending question. So I think we should have that discussion after we talk about it and now we'll table this discussion too. But what we've done to change a team really changes that question. Correct. Exactly.

Yeah. Let's go into what the new team would sort of look like and all different moves there, non-cam. Yeah. So the big splash was first thing in the morning when the Patriots, when legal tampering started, they signed the top two tight ends while it's on the top tight ends. And then the next morning they signed the other top tight ends, right? So John Smith from the Titans, 25 years old, he's been in the league for four years, has

kind of a Aaron Hernandez vibe, if you will, minus the murdery stuff on the field. Okay. All right. I was like, whoa. Talk about projecting. The murdery stuff. That was like so much of who he was. Yeah.

Yeah. Minus being gay, murdering people and committing suicide. He's exactly like him. Right. Yeah. He's a spitting image on the field. If he wears 81, I don't think he'd be able to tell him apart. I don't know.

He's a beefcake. Yeah. He's a big that there it is. You're a beefcake. He's a hog molly. But he's not, but he's like, he's the shifty here of the two. Like Hunter Henry is the road grader, isn't he? Yeah.

The way everybody's talking about is Hunter Henry fits the Gronk role more and like the inline run blocking type of tight end who can catch passes as well. Whereas Johnny Smith is more of like that guy. You can split wide, put anywhere you want, line him up in the backfield and hand it off to him. That sort of thing. Run screens to him. More of a more of an athlete that he's thick though.

You know, he's like a DK Metcalf where it's like. So I haven't, I haven't seen him with a shirt off. So can you get how, how many C's are you putting on that thick? Well, just Google it, dude. He looks like a linebacker without a shirt off. It looks like a middle linebacker. He's a nice ease. His neck is the size of my waist.

So is that, is that like a three C sick? Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. Extremely thick. Okay. Nice. And yet he'll still look like a midget next to Trent Brown.

Yeah. Yeah. I forgot how massive he is until sometimes you see pictures of it. So it was awesome. You can see it in games. He was just so much more massive than everybody else. He is. Yeah.

He was awesome when he was here. How big is he? I also have a question. How much did the Raiders pay him? I mean, they, they spent a shit time. Shit time. He was like, Super quick too.

He was only there two years. He is six foot eight, 359 pounds. How big is, how big is Shaquille O'Neal? Seven foot two. Is he? He's definitely seven footer.

Seven foot water. Seven foot water. How heavy is he? Come on. Give me, give me a stats. Seven foot one, three 25.

Trent Brown is six eight, three, three, three, nine. Dude, John is six, three,

two, 50. Like he's fucking huge. These are some big guys. Yeah. I just looked up Trent Brown's. Earnings by year. With the Patriots was one point.

I was like, 11 million. I don't think it's actually been detailed out yet. Yeah. About 10, 11 million. That's what I thought. Yeah.

So it's a, it's a big chunk less. It's a lot. It's more than half of what he made last year in cash. And so this is kind of, I mean, Greg's not going to hear, but this is the genius of,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know. This is the genius of Bill Belichick where. It almost.

Feels like he and I don't know if you'll ever admit to it, but kind of like almost punted on last year. As a way to. Put himself in a better position to. Build a team this year by kind of just. They just like. Drafted a bunch of guys and just put them out there. Like the tight end position, for instance.

Like they just put out first year guys and said. All right. Is a let's see what you can do. And it didn't do much. And didn't really matter because. They didn't have a lot going for them all the. Opt outs and everybody leaving and. All of that.

But. That led to this year. The team being in such a good position. In a year where. Because of the COVID and everything. The Patriots have. Or the league itself, the salary cap is shrunk. So everybody has to let go of.

A lot of players. Which floods the market, the free agent market with a bunch of. Higher and guys and maybe you're used to seeing in a normal year. With nobody being able to afford it because. I think at the start of this year. The Saints were. 60 something million dollars over the cap because of how low it was. So they've just been cut guys left and right.

66. And they did actually get some cool music under. And Andy. I just thought it was right now. But I think you're right. Not. I've been thinking the same thing, but. What if Belichick has been planning for a post Brady world for at

least. Six years, right? Yeah. Well, I mean, he's been playing post Brady forever. It's got to be on his mind. Yeah. And this has seems to be the opportunity meets that plan. Right. I don't know if last year was an intentional.

We'll punt on the whole season, but it was like, we're not going to fuck up. We're not going to do any crazy cat moves. We're going to roll as much cap space into this next off season. Yeah. Cause I think it's. Drive. They had a shit ton of dead money and they just decided like.

Well, there's not much we can do with this year. So we're not going to go out and like try to be proactive in trading for players or. Signing any real free agents other than like long shots, like Ken Newton on proof of deals. Hmm. See, my theory is that he thought the season was going to get canceled because of COVID.

So he punts on the season being like, we're not going to finish in this season. Interesting. Yeah. And being like, and I know the salary caps coming down next year because of COVID. So I'm just considering this a watch season from the end and it didn't really work out.

And they still went seven and nine. So it's fine. They handled it, but I think that's what he was thinking. That might be some of that too. And I also think because they just announced today, the, um, the T the TV network deals. The NFL did. That Goodell. I didn't see that there was so much shit all happening at once.

It was something like this is all my shop stuff. I think the NFL is getting something like $10 billion a year. Well, it's like the gambling stuff in it too, I think. So I'm like that, but like, like Amazon is doing, um, they're streaming the Thursday night games and like all this, there's all this other stuff going on. And so the, basically the amount of money coming in in, I think, I think it's 2023, maybe something like 2024,

like when that deal kicks in the, they're saying the salary caps going to jump back up again. And which is basically when all of the deals with the pages have made this free agency kind of jump because they've, they've back loaded all those into that sort of timeframe. I'm wondering if Belichick was also having conversations with Kraft, who's really close with Goodell, you know, is probably in all those conversations with all of the, uh,

the, the league deals going on. So maybe you had an idea of, yeah, it's going to go down this year and then in a couple of years, it's going to rock it back up again. I think everybody. Yeah. That was pretty common knowledge. Yeah.

Maybe. And you can see the way they structured the contracts. Everything has like a $1 million base salary and then a bunch on the backside because they know. Yeah. My takeaway from all this is I have fucking no clue how NFL contracts work. Like I have a, I have no idea what hits a salary cap.

What's dead money? What is fucking signing bonuses? What are they? I have no fucking clue. That's why you gotta follow. That guy on Twitter is looking blowing up. Yup. He's got like 30,000 followers now because of this.

Yeah. He's a, he's a great follow cause he's like, who is it? At Pat's cap. At Pat's cap. Okay. Since 2000, since we've been started back in the podcast, he was on Twitter talking.

All right. Shout out at Pat's cap does it for free. Um, but he accepts donations to his local habitat for humanity. All right. I'm going to give him a fucking signing bonus of $2 with the fucking third year option for fucking 50 cents. Yeah. But I guess the new thing now is, is void years too.

Yes. Because yeah. It started that too. Tom Brady's contract. It may have automatically void and you're just spreading, you're just kicking the can. Right. Yeah.

So there's a lot of that going on this year. I think because they're trying to kick the can down the road. I came do it for the Patriots last year. That's how they had so much dead money in their caps. Like they couldn't even sign to anybody if they wanted to. Yeah. Cause Brady's dead money alone was like 20 something million. Yeah.

25 million. That's something crazy. So, and this year they're at the bottom. Well, the cap hits they have like for this year is like barely above that. Yeah. For all those big guys. So is there anybody else you're excited that they signed?

Well, you want to, you want, let's, let's go by, uh, like position unit, right? All right. So let's start with the offensive line. Cause there was a ton of shit that went down with the line coming Zango inch, right? That's probably the worst. The, the units, the, the been the worst since the free agency

period. Cause we lost. I don't know. I think they're in shape here. Yeah. I'm not saying they're in bad shape, but of all the units from like last year's group versus this current year's group, this is the one that probably decreased. Cause he lost.

And Andrews. Yeah. I know, but we already spent a season without Andrews. Right. He was still, he was still awesome. And the Patriots, uh, I saw this as well today. The tune was awesome too. The Patriots have never paid a second contract for a center.

Like every center that they've started has been like an undraft, either an undrafted free agent or somebody they picked up in the draft late. Yeah. I'm not like worried about them at center or even guy. I think that like it'll be fine. Who are the guys they have. I just think last year's group.

A little better. Uh, I don't know that. Yeah. You're probably right. I mean, he's like one of the top guards and he got $80 million contract with six, 60 of a guarantees. Like the second most guaranteed.

I think. I think they lost depth for sure. Right. So if they, they brought in Brown, they lost Andrews and they lost to me. Right. Yeah. So right now you're looking at the tackles are going to be win and Brown.

Yeah. Possibly. Your, your guards are going to be. Yeah. Yeah. Possibly. Maybe your guards are going to be on way you and Shaq Mason. I think I'm way.

And way you getting him in the draft is a fucking huge. Yeah. And he could play guard or tackle and when can play guard or tackle. So you have like a lot of flexibility there. I think Karis is your only one. That's kind of a question market center, but we've had a year with him where like,

he wasn't noticeably bad. So. Yeah. There's not much depth beyond that, but those five that you're rolling out, you feel comfortable with them, right? Well, the pages have also spent other draft picks.

I'm trying to find the name right now. Yodney Castillo or whatever that guy is. Yeah. Yeah. And there was a, there was him and there was another one too. I got a foreign dude that they had that video on that. I love that video. And then you never saw him again.

Oh yeah. I think he's gone. I might have been for like the Swedish guy or something. Yeah. I think with a run game, I bet, you know, having just Trent Brown back out there is a massive, I remember him being pretty awesome in the run game.

And then a Wenu. That is a Wenu, but I also never heard his name. On Wenu. I think it is. What did I say? We knew. I don't know.

I think it's on Wenu. Oh, and W. He and you. Yeah. They also have a Justin Herron as well. Yeah. As a guard.

I don't know. I don't know the names though. And then Illuminal was the other guy that played a bunch of snaps last year, right? But they used, he's a free agent. Yeah. He was not. He got beat a bunch.

I remember being like, come on, dude. Yeah. So, so yeah, we'll call it a wash. A downgraded depth, but starting five is a wash. Yeah.

All right. What's, what's, which I'm going to go the other side of the ball. Yep. Um, this was an area I felt like they were awful last year here, especially the linebackers. Let's put the linebackers and defensive line together.

Yeah. The front seven. And I think they were at the bottom of the league, especially in stopping the run. Yes. 26 in the NFL. Yeah. It was like we're asking Tres Hall to just do way too much.

Yeah. And for new Jennings. Yeah. They lost Adam Butler. The edge. Nobody could set the fucking edge. Yeah. They lost Adam Butler and, uh,

Bo Allen, technically who didn't actually fucking play. And you might even make a case that Adam Butler was the best of the front seven. Yeah. Last year. And Lawrence guy technically hasn't signed yet either. So maybe he might be gone.

Hard to tell. Uh, but they've. Done some things to address that defensive line. Uh, they resigned. Dietrich wise and Carl Davis. So that's good. Um, they also signed.

Anybody want to give this a chance? The Vaughn God show. God show. I don't know how to say it either. I'm, I'm not even want to know because I want to call it. The God show. That's not bad.

This is calling the God show. I don't even, I don't even care how it's actually pronounced. I'm going to call it. I thought you were going to do it fanatically and say God. The God show baby. Welcome to the God show. Uh, they also signed defensive lineman Harry. Henry Anderson.

Um, I've never heard of them. Yeah. But I always liked those never heard of them. No name defensive end guy from the jets because they're probably good, right? But they're just playing in the fucking black hole. And recently, uh, as of today,

Montravious Adams. Who? I haven't seen one yet. Again. Yeah. I guess he was a, um, like a big deal in high school and was good in college, but like hasn't been able to translate that,

which is something the Patriots are. Um, are big on like those sorts of projects. So he might work out. He might not, but a lot of these guys are kind of like. Big body. I'm previous. Got a great name.

I can say that a bunch. It reminds you of Barkevious Mingo. Yes. All-time name. Yeah. His brother's names are also all-time. I forget. Yeah.

The whole family had great names. When there was one dude who had just a regular day. Barkevious. Yeah. What was the regular? All right. I'm looking it up. Stat check.

Roger Mingo. Yeah. Something hilarious like that. Yeah. Barkevious Mingo's full name. He's a man named Barkevious. He's a man named Barkevious. He's a man named Barkevious.

Lavin Kiki Mingo. Kiki. Kiki. Do you love me? Siblings. Shew Tavius Mingo. Malik Mingo. Hugh Mingo.

Hew. Hew Tavius and Hugh. That's they're two separate people. Yeah. I'm thinking Hugh Mingo might be junior because the. Yeah. His parents are Hugh Mingo and Barbara Johnson. Barbara Johnson.

Right. And marvelous. Barbara Johnson. Barbara Johnson. And Bar the whole thing. Barbara John babs. Just. Spitting out you monkey bus.

God's. Barkevious. Barke and Babb's. Oh, that's hilarious. Well, we got only talking about defensive line. Well, yeah, and then, and Jude on obviously we didn't mention him. Yeah.

That's the way ticket night is big ticket. Yeah. Let's talk about Jude on because I am. I was initially all about it. And I think he's awesome. And he's a great player. And exactly what the defense needs. The other side.

Like X Ravens linebacker front seven. Terrible track record, even like Lawrence guy. I thought also could pop and he's just been okay at best. The daily is Thomas. He was good. Like a year. Then you got like, who is the guy? He's Colton.

I is a bears. He is from the bears. Yeah. You can't judge a player based on. I'm sorry. I don't know. It's just like everyone who comes over from the Ravens, we've, we've signed a couple and they've never actually been

wicked good. I think they're, they're kind of like a linebacker factory too. Kind of like the Steelers are with ride receivers where it's like they, they always do better there than in other places. Right. And then in Baltimore, like they franchised him last year too.

So he was a franchise player. So he's definitely wicked good. That is out of the question. Yeah. I just wonder if like, you know, it's like the Red Sox signing someone with big expectations from the Rays. You know,

he's a little gun shy after a couple of those. I don't know if that's the same because it's not like he's going from a small market to a big market. I'm saying it's like market-wise or same, but you know, kind of a free-hand feeling. Deep down inside and I'm trying to be real here on the top 99 result of me, super stoned, I think he's like that perfect.

Maybe not be the flashiest pass rusher, but setting the edge and control the game and being like an all around overall linebacker like Daunte, high tower is fucking awesome. I think to me more of like a, a Mike Vteil ninkevic sort of guy plan on that idea. Well, I think that's the role that they probably see for him and

the way that they're drafting these, these, these big boys, not drafting, but, um, signing these big boys on the defensive line, like these are some, like I think this, uh, Montraves Adams, he's, he's a wide body boy. Um, Henry Anderson as well. He's, he's a, he's a big guy. So I think they're kind of almost, it feels like they're going to go back to that three, four.

Yes. Because I mean, just look how many linebackers they picked up. They got that. They've got high tower coming back. They've got Uche and, um, Chase Winovich as well. Who I think was one of the only people who had more quarterback pressures.

Can pick up, like run defense, sending the edge really well from these guys. He's going to be an absolute monster next cause he's got the pass rush that like Mike Vrebel had. And as we were watching this 2003 season, watching Vrebel like really find his group, it's been awesome. Yeah. And I feel like Jude on is going to fit into that sort of mold as well. What about Kyle van Noy being back too?

I mean, this is like everything you could possibly want. That's right. Yeah. From the linebacking group. You get Dante back. Yeah. Yeah. Dante high tower and, and Kyle van Noy in the middle. Do you think Dante high tower is going to come back and be the player he was? I have serious concern with these 90% of the, I don't know. He looked pretty bad as last year.

No, he didn't. In coverage. I remember thinking. Yeah. Yeah. We're not going to have to ask him to cover with Jude on and KVN in there. I don't know, dude. I'm concerned about linebackers though. Uche is getting coverage too. And like the, I don't know. Uche didn't, Uche didn't pop for me last year either.

And Winovich was getting benched halfway through the year. I'm concerned about linebackers. I am actually the opposite. I think linebackers is going to be the strength of the defense next year. No, the safeties are going to be the strength of the defense this year. That's what I think this safety group is. No, no, no, let's not leave this. Cause I think me and Greg are on very opposite sides of me.

I think we are. Yeah. I think you're rating high tower too, too much. He's already a step slower and in the modern NFL, like that's not what you need is like a run stuffing linebacker. What about your one Bentley? I think you do though. Yeah. I mean, I didn't think he was going to run stuff.

I think that's, that's terrible. He's like a playmaker all over the, he's, steps up in huge moments. He's a leader of the defense. He's like the heart and soul. He makes all the big plays and yeah, he's a run stuff. We fucking sucked against the run. If we can stop the run with the linebackers, they have to throw it. Now you have,

you're going right into the teeth of our strength, which is the secondary because I, you know, the secondary has always been for the last couple of years, fucking awesome. And I don't think it's going to get any worse. Also, who's going to, who's going to rush the passer? Winovich is the only one on that, on the entire defense that I feel comfortable.

He's not a big sack guy though, right? Yeah, but he's still got great numbers on rush pass rush. He just wasn't, he's asked to do everything. He's asked to cover 34 to have sex since 2016. So for a linebacker, that's not bad. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah. But beyond that,

we don't have that typical pass rushing defensive end, I guess. But if you're playing, if you're playing that 34, that's kind of where those linebackers fit in. Yeah. And there's no one that really looks like they're like a jet after a guy. I mean, Winovich, yeah. But I mean, there was really some issues with Uche. Didn't do anything for me last year.

I thought he was good coming off the edge. He flashed. His closing speed was crazy. I don't know. Oh yeah. And also he was, they were both rookies. They started roles, you know. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I have high hopes for expectations for the rest of them. Greg, you know, who should be your favorite person in the front seven? The church wise. Why? Cause apparently he's a big locker room guy.

And that was like your role in the UNH soccer team. Yeah. That was a locker room guy, not a fan favorite, dude. Yeah. You should just appreciate it. To be fair, there weren't any fans at your game. So yeah, there are no fan favorites. Mom was there every game.

That's right. So maybe you were the fan favorite. Yeah. There you go, Greg. No other fans there besides mom. Boom. That means the fan favorite. Why do we reside wise?

He hasn't done anything in five years. Yeah. Cause he's a big locker room guy apparently. Everyone loves him. I guess. I mean, I like him too. Yeah. I don't dislike him.

I think he may have more potential. I don't know if he's reached it yet, but he certainly has taken his goddamn time getting there. All right. I'm good on the front seven. I've said my piece. All right. Secondary.

Secondary. Who the hell knows? See you later. Gilmore probably doesn't. Everyone has said that. Like it's an absolute certainty, but people are saying like the fact that it hasn't happened yet. It seems like people are cooling on that idea.

Yeah. Well, you got to look at the salary cap numbers. Cause if they take a, if they caught them, then they have dead cap money of 13 million compared to restricted free agency in 2026. And I have no clue. I have no clue. What happens if they cut over trade of no clue?

If they trade them, they get plus six million in cap room or something like that. Yeah. But it's still like eight million in debt money or something. Yeah. But what is that money regardless? They could, they could create more cap room and they do. So I would say.

If you trade him for another player as well, right? You could kind of use that like a NBA uses a trade, you know, an exception. As a fan, I'm not as concerned about losing Gilmore as people might think, right? Yeah. They're pretty stacked.

I think there's even people getting buried in that depth chart that are could play. Yeah. He's the guy that like, I thought, wow, he played well when he got in there. You just can't get in. Jonathan Jones had a hell of a year. JC Jackson, I think could be a fucking pro bowler.

Yeah. Yeah. Jackson's going to get paid next year. Yeah. Jackson, they put a second round tender on him. Yeah. Restricted free agent. Second round.

If someone sends him on the, on the Chiquitanda, Chiquitanda is the, we get their second round pick. We get their French fries. If we don't match their offering. Right. Right. They, which I saw someone ask on Twitter. Our poison pills still allowed. They are not.

Yes. We know all about that. Yes. You tell us all about that. Yeah. The Curtis Martin contract back in the early 2000s was why they, I don't even want to go down that road again. I don't want to relive that.

No, that was, but I used to hate Curtis Martin because I thought he left us, but. That's why they search and I love them now. Poison pills. Poison pills. Well, that's when they got rid of it, right? Yeah. Yeah, I got pissed about it.

Yeah. So safeties. I feel like we're, that's probably, we have the deepest. Safety group in the league. Yeah. Safety is getting paid more and more too. They're actually making a fair bit of money.

Like their contract values have been going up. I mean, Pat Chung just retired, Patrick Chung. Today. Today. Yeah. Amazing. See that,

that of going to the playoffs 11 straight seasons. Ridiculous. To start his career. Yeah. But you still have Devin McCoy or the agent Phillips. Agent Phillips was like the only free agent. The only free agent signing from last year basically, right? I looked them up.

I looked up all the pages, 20, 20 free agents. You want to hear them? Yeah. Yeah. Cody Davis who we re-signed again this year. Yep. Brian Hoyer. Special teams guy.

Brandon Copeland. Dan Vitale, Adrian Phillips. Two year deal. Yep. Bo Allen didn't play a snap. Nope. Demir Bird. That's it.

Cam Newton. That's like a fire game. Central. Right. That's what I mean. They re-signed Butler. It looks like a one year Calhoun. Luminor.

Toonie on franchise. Yeah. DMAC re-signed last year. So did Slater. Yeah. And Jason McCarty. Fuel door set left. And he just went somewhere else as well.

So he went one year. Nate Ebbner left to the Giants. I think he's a free agent. I'm not sure. Lynn Roberts still with the Dolphins. Ted Garris. Back. Back.

Yeah. I like, I love the, the Kyle Van Noy because. They let him walk to the Dolphins. Got a fourth round pick this for this draft. And then he's back. So they, they basically. Lost Cam, Kyle Van Noy. And then got him back plus the pick from the Dolphins.

Yeah. Here's the, his earnings just like Trent Brown. So I was in there. The first year of the pages was 4.6. Yeah. Then two and a half, then five. First year of the dolphins was 15 million.

Yeah. And next year he's down. He signed like a five year, $50 million contract with him. Right. And they basically cut him after one year. Ridiculous. Which is fun.

6.8 this coming year of the pages. Yeah. He's actually a 43 million bucks. Yeah. It's not bad. The lions paid him two and a half million too. All right. That's right.

You started with the lions, didn't you? Yeah. So these defensive backs. You also have Jalen Mills was another big. Off-season signing. This year. Spent five years with the Eagles and he's. Kind of the guy that played everywhere.

Oh, it felt, it feels a bit like a, a Devon McCordy where started a cornerback, but wasn't like the greatest cornerback, but they've kind of like shifted him around to safety. He's played a little bit of linebacker. He's talking shit on DMACC like that. He went to the pro ball as a cornerback. In his first year.

And then what are you doing in the second year? Oh yeah. But like he was awesome as a cornerback. Don't put all that. You know, you just, just we just found out he was better at safety. Sure. We'll go with that.

Yeah. Yeah. He's awesome. Yeah. But I think that's too great just cause he's old. He's just not going to be new to the player that he was. It's the same like, he's the same type of player as high tower.

You can say that about how you got to say it about the matter. I think it's easier to get exposed in high towers position than it is McCordy's free safety. I don't know. Yeah. Safety is how you get beat deep and like take a one wrong step and you're done. Yeah.

McCordy as an, I'm basing this off of I, there was like three or four occasions in high towers. Last season he played where I was like, wow, he looks really slow. Yeah. In coverage. And I've,

I haven't said that about McCordy. I mean, maybe I'm not a fucking ex's nose guy. I'm not watching tape, but just from the eye test, I think McCordy is still at the speed, which covers a lot of, maybe a lot of that sort of stuff. Yeah.

I'm not afraid by, by being fast. Yes. We'll find out, but he's getting there too. I mean, I don't know how many, how many years he's got left in him.

It's true. He's equally, but like the other aspects he brings off the, you know, pure speed or athleticism or whatever on the, keeping the defense in line. Imagine if he adopted out as well, how much,

how shit our defense would have been last year, because at least we weren't like blowing assignments, like left and right. It's true. It's true. And I think high tower and McCordy bring a ton of like leadership and that sort of side to the defense. Yep.

Especially try to integrate all these new guys into, right? Right. Isn't there, isn't there more in the secondary that's new? Kyle Duggar. Kyle Duggar. Yeah. Second year guy who was,

I think one of the bright spots on defense last year. He's going to be like, I, it wouldn't surprise me because it almost feels like a lot of these positions are kind of blending together too. Like linebackers are getting a bit lighter and faster. Yeah. Um,

safeties are getting bigger and guys that can play in the box, but also cover a tight end. So I wouldn't be surprised if you see like maybe three safeties on the field and some situations instead of like a linebacker, you know, so you take off like a high tower and put on Kyle Duggar, Adrian Phillips and, and what's the mills jail and mills.

So you have technically like three safeties on the field instead of, uh, three, three or four linebackers, you know? Yeah. You know, it was a great comp. Teddy Bruce key for itower because Teddy was not great in coverage either, especially towards the backside of his career.

Bro. Teddy Bruce key every, every picky guy was a pick six TD Bruce key. We're in the middle of 11 weeks in 2003. Yeah. And we're in the middle of that right now. It's like, I believe you're talking shit about him. How dare you?

I'm not talking shit. I'm just saying that I love my tower. He's awesome. And so is Teddy. I'm just saying in like later in his career, I was passing down their southern amount for a coverage person. And maybe you got the great point of, you can use a safety in that role.

Yeah. Especially as offenses get lighter as well. I mean, you don't see that too tight ends, which except for the Patriots, of course, which they're going to go back to it seems like. Um, but yeah, everybody's doing spread offenses with RPOs and all this stuff. And so you're going to have just smaller guys on the field.

And so to counter that, I think, I mean, you almost saw it a little bit last year too. Patriots play. All right. This is my other theory that I did have before this call. Oh boy. And I thought this was for a while.

Oh boy. Uh, including last year. Oh boy. And Bella checks all about a zigging when the, when the NFL is zagging. Yeah. And to go back to what we're seeing in 2003 with like real run heavy

clock control. Defense first. Being bigger than the other person in overpower and physically when everybody's going to a spread offense, super light approach, right? Yeah. So if he attacks all the defense, that will be real light and used to covering spread offenses every

day with a really aggressive run game. And I think the Ravens are doing the same sort of thing with success. Then he's going to have like an unstoppable clock control offense. And the other side of that is building awesome, awesome defense, which we've had for a little bit now. Yeah, I don't, I don't think you're,

I don't think you're wrong. I think the pay, I think Bella check is often gravitated towards the two tight ends. Cause it was Graham and Watson first, right? Yeah. I'm kind of in the timeframe we're doing now. Watson's 2004. Yeah.

So yeah, I think Watson, exactly. And then obviously Gronk and Hernandez. And now you have Hunter Henry and Johnny Smith. And the only reason that was available, I think is because the cap was so low and no one else could give money tight ends a crazy money offer. Right. So we could give two crazy money offers like.

Yeah. Hunter Henry probably was like, would never have signed if John who hadn't signed. I don't know if that's true. It's like a great quarterback and like Kim is not it. Let's be real. The quarterback situation of the Patriots is unsettled. It's true.

But I think money, money sells a lot of those issues, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Money. I don't think they, I think people put more stock into that. He made less than John. Yeah. Yeah.

Cause we were paying. I think John is at the higher upside. Yeah. Hunter Henry is like a, he's got injury questions and. But like, but I think the cap being so low prevented somebody else from paying Hunter Henry, just like John maybe one more. Yeah. So he was left with like, no one else is going to give me more than him.

I can go to the same teammate that he just already on. We're both going to be awesome together. You know, who knows what they're going to do a quarterback though. Yeah. He would never gone there if it's just him. Someone else had paid John a ton of money and we were like, hey, we'll pay you too.

He's like, you know, maybe go play in Tampa. I don't know. I don't know about that. They go play in Tampa for one year and see what the cap is like next year. I'm with Greg. I think that's a little over rate. I think it depends on the, if it's like a Rodney Harrison type of guy

who's doing it for the respect, maybe. Yeah. But like a tail end of his career, but if you're kind of like in your prime, you make that money. You want to go get that back. Yeah. And they gave him a decent time commitment too.

Right. Where I think that plays and a decent signing bonus. Like those are, these players are like, okay, I have like, I have minimal opportunities to capitalize on. Let's get the guarantee free agency. So how much money can I get right now is the most important thing for like, people talking about competitive this and that.

Like I want to set, I want to be, have money for my family. You know, like, yeah, those are the kind of things that are highest priority for these players. It's not, it's not who's my quarterback. And you know, what is the five year plan look like in the program? It's, I want to get, because this is my one chance in my NFL career.

It's still down to that one view. Dude, there's so many factors in it. I know, but I would venture to guess, I think that's the biggest factor though. I would venture to do that. That's the whole everyone always talks about. Yeah,

but Tom Brady is such a fucking unique situation because he's not going to get cut. They can cut everybody else whenever they want. Like big name quarterbacks. Like that's why my home's got that weird contracts because he's basically uncuttable, you know, all the rest of the players in the NFL, you tear an ACL, you're out for a year.

See you later. All those back end years are gone. So it's all about absolute. Oh, it's horrendous. Yeah. Yeah. The lack of guaranteed money is fully guaranteed contracts and NFL will be an absolute crazy town situation on that.

Oh yeah. Yeah, it really would in the in the sport. That's the most violent. Yeah. That has the shortest life. Yeah. Yeah. They're not guaranteed their money.

Right. Yeah. Compared to a baseball or basketball, we're going to play forever. Who are making even more money? Yeah. Fully guaranteed. Yeah.

And like if I sign a contract with a company, they're going to pay you this money. And then they's like, actually you got real fucked up in their mind. Yeah. But what can't the player just be like, I don't like this team anymore. I'm quitting.

Like, why can't they do that? Yeah. You could quit me, but I can't quit you. That's the right pair. This is bullshit. Well, I mean, we'll, we'll see if, if you actually can quit a team. Oh, you signed the contract.

It's like, so did you bitch. It's a right to work state baby. I can just fucking leave. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I think we'll see what happens with the Texans. And to show on Watson,

we'll see if you can actually. Quarterbacks yet. I'm not ready for quarterbacks. I don't care. There's the, let's talk weapons, offensive weapons, weapons, weapons. Well,

the page haven't done anything really in the backfield, but they signed two wide receivers, but they might lose James White. That's seeming like more and more of a possibility. Right. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. I don't think David Andrews or James White is officially gone,

but they seem to be assumed to gone same as Steph for some reason. I think Andrews signed somewhere today. Didn't he? I thought so. Well, at least he said he was exploring free agency. He's like, I've, they looked at deals from New England and he decided he was going to go to free agency, which almost means he's definitely gone.

Not definitely. I know. His back would be sweet. Yeah. But then they signed Ted Karris later that day and it's like, okay. Yeah. Karris' money is small, you know? Yeah.

That's a one year deal too. You can have him as a backup. He's instantly better than the other guys. He was back up. Jakob Johnson. Yeah. Got Tandy. Yeah.

Tanda. What level did he get Tandy? Tandy that. I had an idea. I don't think it was like a, he was an exclusive free agent. I don't know. Oh, I don't want an exclusive rights free agent is.

I don't know. That's cat. To come to you from Germany. Yeah. NFL Europe is exclusive rights free agent. But you have their exclusive rights so they can't negotiate anybody, but they are free agent. But they signed a fullback last year, didn't they?

Danny Vitale. They let him go. Did they? Yep. He's gone. He go. I mean, Jakob was good last year. Yeah.

But I think what they're real playing a fullback is Dalton Keane. Sting. Let's go back to the tight ends because here I have another theory that I've thought of. Okay. The four tight end offense. Oh, fuck. Yeah.

Right. Now you're talking my language. We got the offensive line. He's already massive. You're all the three tight ends. Ossie Ossie. And the two guys. He signed and then at fullback you have Dalton Keane and then

came at running back and. I'm a running back. Yeah. Or the camera quarterback and then, you know, Sony or Damien Harris at running back. Assuming, assuming both. So what? Yeah.

What advantage does that give you? We can tighten it up and just pound it. Or you can spread it out entirely and just throw it. Remember when Houston was playing goal line defense against us in the middle of the field. I think. Imagine if you took that and said, okay, we're going to spread everybody out and these guys who are now blocking are playing.

Yeah. But I think he. Like the, the differences you have to have tight ends that are like matchup problems. Like the, if that was the case, they would have just ran it last year with four, like two tight ends, but you need players that can like beat Lyon backers in coverage. Well, you have that now, don't you?

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Now they do. But to get four and that doesn't make any difference. Like you have two where you could have, if both the tight ends that graphed last year grow a ton, which generally on tight ends, they say your first year always sucks and look at everybody stats. Yeah.

Rookie tight ends always blow. Yeah. Second years when they make their big moves. So if you get both those guys out there, who can also be linebackers in coverage and you can go from a full on full run forward tight end package goal line to a spread offense. Well, yeah.

I mean, I have. It's not a spread offense. If you have. I've heard it flow. Dalton Keen is more of like a, like a half back sort of thing. Like a, like you line them up in fullback where you can split them wide. Whereas Devon Ossi Ossi is more of like the actual on the line.

Yeah. Tight ends. So. Yeah. Ossi Ossi Tuna. You're picking up my fourth tight end offense, right? Yeah. Okay.

Five. If you count cam and. All right. All right. Cam can run it as well. Now you can. Even better. Cam.

No, no, no. Who's the, who's the backup in, in Las Vegas? The Raiders. Marriota. Marriota. So you wait for the. Ravi says is the future of the Raiders. If I remember.

So you, yes. So you wait for the Raiders to fuck that up and release him. You sign him. You run a two quarterback offense for tight ends. Oh. And then I don't think you need to be else on the field. So Sony, Michelle with. Or yeah, you're replacing one of those two with a quarterback.

Yeah. Who's taking the snap. Either one. That's the thing. And then you can just surprise. And then you can do the RPO, but to the other quarterback who can then throw the ball. Yes.

Or run it because they're. Cam actually had good hands last year too. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Split cam wide. Yeah. I'm pretty sure Marriota's had some reception in his,

in his career. Wow. And you're really onto something here. Let's see. Marcus Marriota. The two quarter X or tight end offense. Oh God. It's like going back to the original days of football.

Right. Why being offense or something? Like a fixed wing or whatever it is. Yo. Marriota is averaging 31 yards per reception. How many receptions? One, two. Look up cams.

On three targets. So that's like 66% catch rate. That's not too bad. What is a. Longest of 41. Great question. I mean, Cam Newton's got to be up there. Right.

I don't know. I can't remember a ton of them and. Cam Newton. We're seeing receiving he has. Three catches on four targets averaging 22.7 yards per catch. It's not too bad. And three touchdowns. God damn.

All right. He had two touchdown catches last year. Yeah. Yeah. All right. He caught two and through eight. And one in his rookie season at Carolina. You're on something here.

This is what I'm saying. So we have. So I mean, so you have the, you have your five offense of lineman, right? And then we say four tight ends. So that's nine and then two quarter back. That's 11. That's all you need.

What other weapons do you need? Legit be really hard to defend because who do you put out there to defend that you put in a ton of linebackers, I guess. All right. You can put a ton of linebackers. Do you have enough linebackers on your team? Do you run the ball between the tackles of cam over and over again? You could.

I guess. If you really want to get hurt. I guess. Or I mean, you don't even have to work because you can, you can split Mariota wide throw to want to wide receive a screen. And then he could do a throwback to one of the tight ends. I mean, Oh yeah.

You know, such a crazy trick plays. Opportunity. I got an idea to run the ball with like a running back in that same, you know, I got an idea. I got a phone that you can smell through. Well,

we're talking about stupid fucking ideas. Hey, poke poke any hole in that poke one hole in my idea. I dare you. I want to hear this. No one's done it before, which means it's not a good idea. I don't tell you about checks. That's what they said to Henry Ford too.

They're like, Oh no, just make a faster horse. Yeah, how'd that work out? And if anyone's Henry Ford, Henry Ford, he says Henry Ford, that proves your point. You're right. You know what? I hadn't considered Henry Ford's horse versus vehicle.

That's right. Yeah. Andy. I'm glad you're coming around. Really coming around. Yeah. Speaking of the Henry Ford of the NFL. Johnny.

Johnny Smith. No. Nick. Can I give you my theory? Nick is big. Okay. My, my theory is Bill Belichick builds his team around the

talent that he has, specifically the quarterback. So he built all those teams in New England around Tom Brady being a, you know, a good, the lunch move the chains guy, right? Get him in Dola.

That was a pretty big signing at the time at old man. Welker. Those guys. Now he's saying, okay, I have Cam Newton. We're going to give this Cam Newton thing another role. How what, how does Cam Newton work at his best? Let's,

I don't know. Let's table the quarterback stuff. 2015. 2015. Cam, Cam's MVP season 15 and one. Who was the leading receiver on that team? Uh,

it's tight end. What's his name? Greg, Greg Olson, 77 catches, 11 under yards, seven touchdowns. His receivers,

you want to hear them? Deep threats. Ted, get Junior Jericho, Cotry, Philly Brown and Devin Funches. The most. That's right.

We've talked about this. Ted, get Junior led the wide receiving core with 44 catches. Ted, get Junior did the deep guy. Yeah. What was it? 44 yards for catch.

Yeah. I think he had like 700 yards, something like that. So a lot of size I thought, but. All right. Well, actually a good comp for that is. Who are those names sound like?

Nelson Aguilar, Kendrick Bourne, right? Those sound like the same type of guys. Well, Aguilar had like the same amount of like 49 catches for 800 or 900 yards. There you go.

Very, very similar. I don't know Bourne that well, but I do feel like as far as the overall moves, the receivers are just a little bit like, you know, like AJ Green didn't sign for a lot. Marvin Jones didn't sign for a lot and he's been awesome. Can you go holiday? Yeah.

He signed it, but Marvin Jones was also free. And he signed for like. I didn't even know he free. He gave Aguilar like 15 million. Guaranteed. It seemed like a lot. He's a, he's a risky one, right?

Yeah. He's a risky one. You're betting on potential for him for sure. Well, you could have got a better deal for that money. Maybe not. You're betting on him like being. Right.

Cause he was nobody for five years in Philly. And that had a really good. I remember his reputation was like dropping big passes. Yeah. It's just like. Yeah. Yeah. That was that clip in the news about him,

but the guys, the guy talking about how like there was a place on fire and the, the people inside were literally throwing babies outside out of the windows. So the people in the ground could catch them. It's like, and we were catching them. Unlike that fool Aguilar, who needs to take some fucking notes. He doesn't want to drop that into the interview that he was doing after he'd been catching babies being thrown out windows.

That's so Philly. Beautiful. Yeah. My God. So what do you think the wider sea room looks like then starting next year? Yeah. Also unsettled.

So question number one is Julian Adamlin coming back. Yeah. Yeah. That report is his knees. Not awesome. Right. It's like it's still a concern. Hmm. Greg.

I heard somewhere where like he may not. I mean, I don't know where's he going to go. I can't imagine. Does he retire? Yeah. I mean, I think it's either he retires and stays in New England. And I think it's probably a better chance. He stays in New England because he doesn't strike.

He's the guy that knows when to stop. Yeah, exactly. He's just like, fuck this. I'm giving up like that. I don't know. I feel like he pushes it until they are forced to cut them. You know, I think he goes to Tampa. He's a trade.

I don't think. Yeah. But they, why would they trade them though? Right. And also like Tampa doesn't need wide receivers right now. Yeah. So we trade him for Scotty Miller and some compensation.

I think James White goes to fucking Tampa. Yeah. And I don't, I don't think Edelman goes to Tampa because the pages don't need Edelman. They have Gunnar Auscheski in there. Well, like why would you not trade them then to the camp of like a,

do you have them in a solid to get them back with Tom Brady, which they fucking probably really, really wants and seeing Cronk having so much fun down there. He's probably sitting up here being like, man, that looks sweet. Yeah. But Tampa has no room for them though. Why the fuck would they want them? Cause Tom Brady told them to.

Why would you want them? Tom wants there. Tom Brady just wants the window. So maybe Tom Brady wants Edelman down there. They are such boys. Yeah. You might be right. See,

I just don't see New England trading them just as like a favor. The real question is how much do you believe in Gunnar? I believe in Gunnar. I'm all I know. I'm all in on this. As a receiver. Yeah. He's, he's,

he's followed the exact same path. The West Welker era. Hmm. He had Julian popped. And then that Texas game where Walker tours ACL and that gave Edelman his shot and we're all like, oh, wow. So why didn't, why didn't Gunnar do anything last year when we were rolling out?

Fucking nobody did. He's coming out later. And like that offense throwing the ball was atrocious. Yeah. Also you're, you're, you're framing it around the, the Tom Brady years, which is a very different thing than the Cam Newton year. Tom Brady been throwing the ball last year.

He would have been off pretty fucking good. Right. But I think if, uh, I think your stereotype in white guys is what I think. Yeah. Do you know what that is? Very naughty. Yeah.

So you're welcome for that. Um, but Is that from mom calling the pages? Dad is the hotline. Very naughty. No. Very naughty. Is it from my car in the hotline?

No, but, uh, when we're talking about Gregory, sometimes a naughty boy. Yeah. Very naughty. It's so true too. Very naughty. Yeah.

That's going to get a lot of use. Yeah. Can I just hear it again one more time? Yeah. Which one do you want? Sometimes a naughty boy. Very naughty. That was worth all the effort I put in.

Oh my God. That's fucking funny. Yeah. I got, I got them queued up with. Yeah. I'm sure you get it. Don't you? Don't forget to add Greg's emergency warning.

Sir. Sound of that. Yeah. We're saving spot number four for something good. We'll see what that is. I don't know yet. Um, Well, that's a real decarbonization.

Yeah. Um, yeah. Um, Well, that's a real decarbonization. Yeah. Um, yeah. So, but I think to Greg's point about, uh, The Gunnaroshevsky, not,

or to both your point, not, not playing well this year is because maybe. Like a Cam Newton that offense isn't relying on that. Shifty slot receiver who is getting open, but just barely and it's like a lot of that short passing game where it's cam Newton might be more of like, Uh, like a play action down the field. If that's that open, he hits the tight end sort of thing, you know,

which I think is how he succeeded in Carolina, right, Greg? Mm hmm. You know what? Uh, point for that equation is the drafting of Nikhil Harry. Right. He would be one of those ones who's better at 50, 50 balls than using craftiness and root running to get open. Sure.

Cam can just throw the ball up like he did. Like Devin Funches. He has some big ass guys there that he did pretty well with. Good point. But I mean, there's a lot of talk about Nikhil Harry being, uh, traded as well. So do you think he stays? I think the ultimate, uh, the term of that is what they end up doing.

A quarterback, you know, I don't care. I don't, I don't care what they do with Harry at this point. He's been super frustrated and they've never drafted a great receiver besides the guy you're wearing the jersey of Greg. That's the last great high pick receiver they've drafted. You're, you're going to give in. Yeah.

You're going to do David like that. He wasn't as on your boy. You're going to do Julian Adelman like that. Deon branch is super MVP. But actually, so was Julian Adelman. Yeah. But that's like seventh round. I'm saying high pick drafted or undrafted free agents.

They definitely found some guys there, but like, what about, uh, for the Patriots? Aaron, Aaron, Aaron drops in. Yeah. Cambell drop cans. What about Malcolm Mitchell? Malcolm Mitchell was great for the year that his knees were still alive. Chad Johnson.

So here's something though. Um, yeah, Chad Johnson was, I always make that mistake too. Um, Johnson, Jackson, whatever. I was having this conversation. Eric last names. Stop interrupting and Steve. Damn it, Steve.

Nobody cares. I was having this conversation. Very naughty. Sometimes a naughty boy. You need a naughty boy. That's right. You're absolutely correct. What are they being?

Very naughty. Yeah. I agree. All right. Go ahead. Patriots have never. Like what's the biggest offensive free agent. The Patriots have brought in in the Belichick era.

Randy Moss. Not a free agent. Big. Biggest by what measure? Like most impact. Most productive. Yeah. Biggest name.

Whatever you want to do. No. Yeah. I think that's probably the only big name. Offensive weapon that the pages are brought in in free agency. I mean, like Gilmore is probably their best ever free agent. Corey Dillon. Corey Dillon was a trade.

Was he? Yeah. Randy Moss is a trade. As long as it was a trade, those are probably the big three. But in terms of offensive free agents, pages don't really do that in terms of big names. Right. They do some line stuff.

A fair bit of line. In running back to like Rex is a free agent from the Bengals. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how big that is, but okay. And then like the depth guys on running back as well. But yeah, wide receiver. Yeah.

I mean, Cam Newton, maybe biggest free agent signing. Yeah. On offense. I mean, we didn't have to quarterback for so long. So I don't really count that. Yeah. They always get the, I mean, they got some big names that they're all tail end of the career.

Like I was just thinking it was pretty big at the time. Yeah. Fred Taylor, you know, they have big names. Yeah. But in terms of like productivity. Yeah. Whereas defense like they're willing to spend the money on defense to go get a guy if they want.

Like a dailies Thomas or Roosevelt Colvin. But who's going to be in that big name? Maybe that shows up at the end. Emanuel Sanders. I always thought that guy should have been a patriot. When we did that restricted offer to him. Yeah. They've been awesome on the past.

Yeah. Yeah. He would have. But the, the Steelers just didn't want to let him go. Yeah. Oh, actually, uh, Antonio Brown. Another good name. He was a technically a free agent signing.

Big name, but didn't do anything. Yeah. So I think this year. If you're going to say that this is, um, An unbella check like year. It's the most. Well, then can I, that's the, the only, I'm not going to criticize Bella check.

I like what they're doing this year, but I will criticize Patriots fans who over the years have always been like. Clowning on the other teams in the NFL for making big free agents for winning the off season. Yeah. For winning the off season. And now all of a sudden the Patriots start handing out these

like above market average, uh, contracts and the Patriots are like, Oh yeah. Suck it. Rest of the NFL. It's like, what do you mean? No, you know, the exact opposite for 20 years. You know what?

And that's why I'm going to give them a pass this year. Cause we've never been able to experience it in our Patriots fandom. Right. Yeah. So just admit, just admit that you, it's fun. It's exciting. It's scary.

I don't know how it's going to work. It's the first time. Well, maybe second, if you want to count Oh seven and the Rainey Moss was welcome. But I don't think anybody realized at the time. Like free agency. And it wasn't like they were just right this year has been and like every other year just dropping bags of cash.

It's just like the draft. Don't stay up for the Patriots pick. They're just going to trade out of the first round and you get tired. Yeah. Right. So does he continue that trend into the draft? That's right.

I didn't thought of that. So yeah, like their quarterback and to say, here's a real turn. Yeah. Yeah. Ricky Williams deal or a Herschel Walker deal. Herschel is even worse. Right.

Yeah. Well, I don't think that was the entire draft. The whole right of the dolphins to the saints for the right to draft Ricky one. And we looked it up. Who won that? Who won that trade? Or I think that the dolphins.

It was Ricky Williams. Dolphins won that trade. Nobody's. Yeah. The saints drafted. Nobody. It was an impressive list of nobody's. Although having said that the dolphins didn't win anything.

Oh, yeah. They're going. Ricky Williams. Didn't help it. What's his name was the coach. One step. Who decided to spend all that draft capital on him and then not run it with him in the last game of the season with this

playoffs on the line. Oh, yeah. Whoops. Inspiracy time. Oh, love this. Yeah. I don't know if I should say this. Give it to me.

You should definitely say it. Very. All right. I'm going to pre up this by saying this might be insensitive, but the Sean Watson in recent news. Yeah. A lot of accusations coming out. A lot of misuses.

And they're, they're getting worse by the day. Yeah. The six of them now. No. The price for the Sean Watson probably just went down. Who else has had a couple of run-ins with misuses and years. Yeah.

That's true. Maybe it knows his way around a hand job or two. Knows how to get off of it too. And I guess multiple ways. But in terms of like not having to pay any fine. Yeah, Greg, let's come on. Can you go with your conspiracy theory? Like let's name names and say, you know, what is your past trade

draft picks on the lowered market for the Sean Watson. Get him into town. Yeah. And then the craft gets him off the charges. Onwards and upwards. So craft is the one sparing the rumors about the Sean Watson. No. No.

Bella check planted this back when we were in the AFC championship game. Wait. So who's, who's planting the rumors? Bella check is little fingering the whole thing. He's behind. He got, he got craft arrested for the first time. Oh, okay.

Now he's planting these masseuses. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Cause he thought Brady was going to be done back then. And he's like, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Bray was retiring after that zoomable. Yeah.

Okay. No, why did he frame craft going to be the chiefs? When did he frame craft to get the shots? That is like original. To get sympathy for the, the quarterback he's going to bring in the future that he lowers the price with. He hadn't decided.

But he had to practice at it by framing his boss first. Well, you know, you don't want to craft sympathies towards bringing in a player like that. Cause he tested the water with Antonio Brown a little bit. Right? Yeah. Okay. We did bell check frame craft or bell check say,

see that situation and say, how can I just take advantage of this? No bell check framed them. Yeah. Bell checks and evil genius. Like they definitely framed them. Okay. It's a bell check frame craft and framed him by, you know,

I wouldn't just frame the Sean as well. Then it's way more believable. He did. He did. That's the thought. So the allegations are true. This is where I stopped. Yep.

Oh, to there. We were having fun. Yeah. He turned to Q and say Q. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to wait for the next Q. Once you start fucking telling people that this is all,

you know what? But I think, yes, we definitely stopped there for that. I think. That there needs to be. An NFL. Version of QAnon. There needs to be an unnamed source inside the building.

No. Inside league offices. Dropping Q drops. No. Because they're all bullshit. You saw people just making a bunch of. Right. Which is why we can do it because we're great at bullshit.

So you want us to become QAnon. Is that where you're going with this? Yeah. We're just, we're just, we're going to cut this. Yes. But we're going to be QAnon. No. NFL Anon.

I don't know. It needs a better name. No. I'm not going down. GAnon. It's definitely not Roger Goodell. It's just GAnon. Steve.

Thoughts. Real G's. And Greg can be a little. I can, I can barely commit to a once a week podcast. Never mind bread crumbing things. Yeah. But you don't even have to break them.

You can just make them up. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like a lot of thinking all the bullshit up. And then like, Oh no. Now everyone's believing. All right. Let's start now.

Roger Goodell has been molesting children for 30 years. You know, every conspiracy has a thin veil of truth to it. Every, every time he mentions pizza, what he's really talking about is, is little children. I know every time he mentions player safety,

he's, he's referencing a child he molested. Oh. And when he, when he says owners, he's not actually talking about. All NSL is, you know, everybody in the NFL is drinking children's blood to keep them.

That's how they, that's how they're so athletic is, it's a cabal, traffic and sex trade, you know, propping up the failing books. Yeah. And that's the reason Goodell is still the commissioners because he has all this blackmail and all the owners.

So they can't get rid of him. The pink is for children's blood. Everyone knows it. Children's blood is pink in October. He's on Epstein's flight log. See, this is easy. We can do this. We'll cut this part.

And so nobody will know. I'm sure I'll remember that. All right. You want to go right into quarterbacks then? All right. Here's the question. Wait, can I, I have like one more note.

That's it. About how Bella check this is like a master. Kick Nick. He's back. Is it? Oh yeah. Let's talk about the kicker. Let's talk about tap water.

No. I didn't even know. He was back and told in this because like, I walked away at a, I had a work day and then a puppy party and I didn't check it. And I come to sit down for this podcast. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

No, no, please don't puppy party. Yeah. Who are you? Two dogs together and they go fucking buck. Wow. That's great. Good God. You're going to start a podcast about it.

Fucking call it a puppy. I'm sure there's a ton of podcasts about it. I'm surprised. I'm surprised. I didn't give it a cuter name. Yeah. The puppy. What other cool names can we come up with?

Nope. That's it. So quarterbacks. Tastic something. You know, Greg, talk to you about quarterbacks. No kickers. We had to talk about kickers.

Tap water. Tap water. Just just in tap water. Yeah. Don't they have three kickers right now? I do. Wild. Let's talk.

Jesus. I also, I'm surprised. Nick folk didn't get more money from somebody. He was awesome last year. I don't care. No, the kickers. Um, I think kickers so much special teams is hugely important.

We got to talk about Justin Bethel getting back as well. Oh, no, please. No. What? I think that Bethel signing is huge. Yeah. You are. Are you fucking with me right now?

No. You're serious. Yes. You think the Justin Bethel signing is huge? Yeah. Yes. You are so fucking dumb, Steve. What are you going to do with Matthew Slater?

Retires, Greg. Oh, my God. Retiring in three years? Probably. This is why this podcast sucks. Why did it suck? Justin Bethel. He's a special team.

He's been made huge plays. The same way Slater has him and Slater are the two best special teams guys in the league. He's the reason their puncher went to the Pro Bowl. Yeah. They were both awesome last year and we were resigning for three or six million bucks. It's nothing.

And Slater is like on the tail end of his career anyway. So we can just do, make the transition. Are you serious, Steve? Yeah. You're serious. Hell yeah. That was one of the first signings. What was the first signing they made was Bethel?

Yeah, it was up there. Actually, I don't think he hit free agency, they said. Is they signed him right before? Who cares? Who cares? The guy plays fucking like 10 plays a game. I didn't even know. I didn't even know he was on the roster until they said he

resided. I don't even know what the fuck Justin Bethel is. I'm sure he's good. The difference between the best special team there in the league and the worst is like nothing. It's wrong. It's no, it's a rounding error in what your final outcome of the season.

No, it's a matter of a pin, a team deep in on their own five yard line. Yeah. To let that ball bounce. Yeah. Twice a year. Twice a year. It's the difference.

Twice a game. Yeah. So it's two drives a season that it matters. Did the punter in the Ram Super Bowl. Did he win that game for him? I'd say everyone use University of Greece. He was the MP of that game. They have the best punch of the NFL.

Ram's Johnny Hecker. Why did the Rams win? Because they don't have the gunners game because they're special teams are both excellent because they don't have the gunner. You guys are your head is so far up your own ass. No, I can't even believe how the fuck are we still talking about Justin Bethel?

I love it. Great signing. I know. I know it's amazing. The opposing offense is going to be starting on their own three yard line the entire season. But I'll be honest, there was that play in the chargers game where the ball was about to bounce.

So fast. He got there and caught it and scooped it behind him. Yeah. And right before he stepped in the end zone. You guys need to use your brains, okay? Your approach in football is a religion. And Bill Belichick says that special teams are important. So,

oh, oh, oh, oh, that's the other thing I want to talk about. Apparently it's really easy. He does. He's looking good at football.

He says that's true. I believe it. I understand. I think we should start a religion. Because apparently it's really easy to do and it's completely tax-free. And so we should start a religion around this. Bill is like check-e-ism. Yeah, we'll work on the name.

We'll workshop the name. Yeah. How does the money play into it? Because we don't make any money. Well, so we don't have to pay taxes on. People can tithe to us, to the church of Belichick.

And then, you know, if you pay enough money to us, the pages will win. Well, the more money you give, the more chance. We'll send a masseuse to your house. No,

we'll send a masseuse to Patrick Mahomes' house. Ooh. Yeah, see? So there you go. Now we're talking. His wife is super annoying. And it's tax-free. At least his brother and his wife are like TikTok people.

I don't know. I don't think they're awful. They're fucking... Oh, can I? Can I give you my hot take? I still know. TikTok rules, OK? Is that your hot take?

Yeah. Like, I know it's like the, you know, it's like the most popular app out there, but... Yeah, but like football fans in general, I bet if you ask them to do TikTok, like, what am I a fucking Gen Z? Like, I get it.

Oh, yeah. Can I say that? Their fucking algorithm is so good that it just funnels you to shit that is you'll find funny or entertaining. I thought you hated marketing. Like, there's a ton of shit out there on it that are wicked cringy and not funny at all.

But the algorithm just takes that shit out and you just keep getting shit you think is funny. So if you're a 55-year-old man out there listening to this, try TikTok. I guarantee. I guarantee this dad joke TikTok. There's all sorts of fucking funny TikToks. You will find it very quickly.

TikToks you like. That's just my... That's my two cents, okay? Quarterbacks. I'm a TikTok stan. You're a TikTok stan. Oh, that's... I'm a Belichick stan.

That's probably what we should call a legend, by the way. Because think about it, this year where... The church of Belichick, yeah. Compics have always been so important to the Patriots, right? We're getting some pretty sweet ones this year. Here's the fucking... And this is the year where he's like... The third commandment of the...

Compics because I have no big free agents that are going to sign big contracts. And I'm just going to spend... So if I'm going to spend any year, it's going to be this year. Everyone's getting those low $1 million salary deals. Everything pushed to the back. And we're just going for a ton of players. Steve, I want you to write out the tenets

of the church of Belichick. We can do that. Yeah, value, value, value. Thou shalt sign players that value. Thou shalt not... A strong middle class of the roster. That is the first commandment. Thou shalt not underestimate special teams.

Thou shalt consider weather while picking sides of fields in overtime. Thou shalt not punt. Thou shalt out the fur, the toss if they win it at the beginning. Unless throwing a curveball to the opposing coach. Thou shalt treat the media like total dickheads.

Well, yeah, maybe we can all get behind that. Thou shalt... Wait. Take the season one game at a time. Thou shalt think of the future. Thou shalt take no days off. Thou shalt do your job. Thou shalt smile on the sidelines.

Thou shalt do thy job. Thou shalt keep thy sleeve short. And Bill said... And Bill said... And from above... Thou shalt do thy job. All right, now our boys are not for resting. All right, the religion now...

Is it enough? Yeah. If you have any commandments you want us to write down. Yeah, what's the Dynasty Hotline? Dynasty Hotline, 603. 505-8043. 103. So, quarterbacks.

All right, quarterbacks. Let's make our predictions. Who starts week one? Cam Newton. Cam Newton. Cam Newton, yeah. All right, if it's not Cam Newton. Well, how about who takes the next step? Julian Edelman.

Who's the next starting quarterback after Cam Newton? And you can say, traffic or... Well, let's just... Let's just propose it as, say, they go another way this year. Yeah. Like, we could say they're on the roster, trade, or draft.

Watson. Here's my theory. They're gonna trade up a new draft for Trey Lance. I like Trey Lance, too. Trade up a new draft for Trey Lance. Garoppolo. I don't, I mean, I think that was their plan for a bit, but I think they're past that now.

Why? I think just, it would have happened early in the year, and like, unless the, unless they can get them for cheaper, I think. I heard San Francisco still poking around quarterbacks. Yeah. Who? Who's left? I think Watson has the 49ers on his trade list.

So 49ers and like... See, I thought they were just waiting for that domino to fall. Yeah. Like, even, maybe it's even after the draft for the Niners, draft a quarterback, and Pat's coming scoop grapes. Yeah, but what do you draft at 15 there? Do you just keep them going best player available, or do you like, what if they don't,

and then you get your stuck with Cam another year, and then where you guys, you're... Yeah, you're fine. Offensive tackle. It's like the path to a draft a quarterback. I don't think they don't need to draft a quarterback in the first round. I think Belichick understands that like the path to a top tier QB is most likely through the top rounds of the draft, right?

I don't know. And like the top of the draft, because you can't get... He hasn't had to worry about it before. So who the hell knows? Every other NFL franchise do it, and the way they're kind of getting it is picking the top half around. Like Watson and Wilson... Jimmy Garoppolo is second rounder.

Where was Wilson? He was like a third, right? Yeah. But those are the only ones. Sean was first round. Mahomes was first round. Yeah. He was kind of... Trabisky was first round.

Sam Darnold was first round. Because you pick in the first round doesn't mean you're going to hit. So... Yeah. There's even more names out there that are worse than that. Oh, yeah. The Blaine Gabbards of the world, you know? Basically any Jags quarterback for the past 20 years.

Hasn't no first round pick from like 2016 still been on their roster since 2016 to some other... I believe so. Something like that. Like four years where the first round quarterbacks were not on the roster. Once Wenz was traded. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, there's another name. I like Trey Lance though. I think he fits well in the system we're running now. And he's not like too much of a... Because I think if you're talking about the draft, you have to consider... Let's say this question, right? Let's say they pick a quarterback.

Who do you rate highest with the consideration of what you'd have to trade to get them? Right. Right. So you say, yeah, Trevor Lawrence, you have to give up... Everything. Everything. The whole fucking thing, you know? Justin Fields, you might be able to get him at what, four or five?

Zach Wilson, you probably have to give up multiple first. Trey Lance. You can kind of put Fields, Lance and Wilson all in the same team. I don't think so. I don't know. I think Trey Lance has grown and even... Mac Jones kind of... It's like the number one.

And those three guys and anyone kind of has them wherever, right? Everyone's going to have them a little differently, I think. And then Mac and he's rising. Yeah. I don't think Mac will be there at 15. It's sort of regardless. Trey Lance, it's possible, right? Yeah.

All four of those guys are definitely possible. Mac will cost a little bit less, but I think all the other three, like, you got to move up and go get your guy sort of thing, you know? Yeah, I think so, too. So if you're talking a fair bit of draft capital, do that. What I think the best fit for the offensive they built it is, like, Cam Newton from Auburn, like when he was first drafted, right? And even a little bit like James Winston, where they are like those big guys who

can run pretty well and can throw it really well as well. Can throw it down the field, too. Okay, so a Heisman. First overall pick that can run and throw. Okay, noted. So Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence and Russ can both do that.

They're both equally adept in that area already. The guy coming into Clemson next year is a fucking thick boy. How many seeds Greg? Greg likes to stick. Yo, he's huge. I feel like Steve McNair in this offense would have been fucking unstoppable. Yeah. McNair and his prime in this offense would have been absolutely.

He is a thick boy. You know what would have been great? Randall Cunningham would have been amazing in this offense. Michael Vick maybe. I think they're building. I think they want to be able to run on anybody, you know? John Allaway probably would have been great in this offense. I don't know.

Go Montana. Would have killed it. I don't know. Montana would have been either. I think that guy's got to have a good running part to his, to his game. All right. So we're done with Jerry Stidham. There's a question.

Yeah. It feels like it. Yeah. Unless it's an emergency. I think you'll find out real quick in the. Remember Steve at the beginning of last year, you said Stidham was going to win the job over Kim Newton. Yeah.

Yeah. I just, yeah. Wasn't that part of my fantasy too? I also said that Tannehill and Josh Allen were going to suck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How'd that go?

That one did not. The last one. Well, Tannehill. I still, I still believe deep down inside. It's like a jab from subway is still affected. Josh Allen is convinced a little bit, but it still makes a bunch of dumb decisions. A lot of dumb decisions.

He's better than Tannehill. Yeah. He's pretty good. Mostly. He's not one good year. I'm not ready to crowd anybody yet. At least we're not the bears. You know, oh my God.

Andy Dalton, the savior. At least his hair matches his outfit now. Unbelievable. You see that? Travis. He's gone now too. Yeah. He's a backup for the bills.

Backup for the bills. Unbelievable. Woof. You go from like, from like a month's trade of like Russell Wilson rumors to Andy and Dalton. I would kill myself. I would just stop watching.

I would kill myself. Yeah. I wouldn't. I can't even imagine what it's like to be a Bears fan right now. I'd give up. He ain't watching the pages just like over here. Going, Oh my God. We've got to have an emergency podcast episode.

Yeah. This has been such a great off season. We've never had this before. We've never had to. This was what it's like to sign every good free agent. And the bears like. Also, it's like. Did you hear about Michael Brockers?

The guy from the ramps. No. This is great. When they traded for. Stafford for golf. He was like, oh man. Stafford is such a huge upgrade from golf. And then this week he got traded to Detroit.

He's back with the boy golf. His soft look. This stuff. Yeah. All right. Anything else? No. Who's your favorite signing?

Your most excited. Juudon. Jacob Johnson. Mine's John. I watched a shout out Flemlow raps on YouTube. Yes. Got you. Yeah.

I got rules. Yeah. Did you watch the Johnny one? Yeah. Yeah. He's fucking cool dude. That's a YouTube channel. And he does like.

Just like mini deep dives on NFL players. Like where are they now? Or like how do they get here? You should watch the John who won Steve. It's really good. I'm looking it up right now. Did you, did you hear the story about his girlfriend? No, maybe I didn't watch it on Johnny.

Oh, I watched it most. It's all about like what he's been through up to this point. Like he had like a rough. Child. Flemow raps. F L E M L O. Space raps. His girlfriend when they were in college,

she's pregnant with his child. He wasn't giving her enough attention. It was like she said. And she was mad. So she went over, boil the pot of water and then threw it on him. Holy shit. It could have seen your season short.

I bet it did. Like first of all, we burned shit. Yeah. God damn. And in like the core filing, she said is because he wasn't reacting to the argument that she was having with them. Oh my God.

So he does everything right. He just doesn't react, doesn't react. So she's like, Oh yeah, there's some fucking boiling water. That's nuts. Apparently he didn't even react to that either. That's a pretty. That's a ball or move. Yeah.

That's hardcore. Jesus. He just sighs deeply. Yeah. Yeah. Just walks the emergency room. All right. Yeah, I'm with you. I think, I think, and didn't he come out and say he's going to be the hardest worker. Fuck.

Oh, like Gillette stadiums ever seen, which is fucking right, dude. Yeah, right attitude. I'm excited. As long as it doesn't go murder on people. He's a, he's got a tight end spot here for life. I got more quarterback here though, because you guys didn't go on, would you rather like draft somebody and give a bunch of draft capital to go get trade Lance, you know,

Cam Newton, or do you want to trade? I'm rider die. You're, you're sitting, you're happy to sit down with Cam, Andy. Right. That's your preferred. Who do you want at 15 then? I don't care.

You know, whatever belligeon best, best available, like wide receiver. Tight ends. I want that tight end from Florida. Oh my God. That would be sex. Mm hmm. And then I'd be on board with the fucking four tight. Four tight ends, right?

Yeah. Four tight ends. And then I go get Marriota. Four tight ends. You quarterbacks. Okay. Break the league. I think they should do stick with Cam.

It's the start of this year and then draft like a later round quarterback. Because I just don't, you know, I don't think it's worth trading up. And then, you know, the Garoppolo's, the Brady's, the Russell Wilson's of the world, they're there. If you get lucky. Yeah. Like I'm not going to pretend to know enough about who would be a pick at that.

But yeah, I'm sure there are guys out there that fit that like third, second, fourth round role. So you're staying Pat in the draft and see if you can sign a veteran. What about you, Steve? And I, I'm, I'm an aggressive move up the board to get your guy on the quarterback side right now. What would you give a better chance than now? You never have a higher pick than 15.

Two first. Yeah, I'll probably give. Yeah. Three first this year. Exchange this year. Next year is in the year after it is all. I mean, less than it would take to go get to Sean or Russ. Right.

If I'm going to spend like three first and I'm going to get the proven veteran guy who's definitely going to work. Okay. So you're giving three firsts to move up to the fourth pick. No, no. I'm saying you give three firsts to get to Sean or Russ. That I would even be okay with three doesn't get Russ. Yeah.

So that's why it's like, maybe give up two to go get, make my move in the draft. The two is the, the most you give up. Yeah, but two, two in an exchange. You're saying. I don't know. Whatever it takes to get up like you didn't, I think it takes a lot more than you think. Yeah.

First, second, third, this year, first, next year. Yeah. Yeah. To get from like 15 to seven or whatever it might be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To get in the top 10, it's expensive.

For sure. To first and like some two or three or four is whatever I think. Basically draft this year. Yeah. Whatever. Fuck it. I can do those things anyways. They're my draft picks.

I don't give a fuck their bills. They're my money. That is, I do subscribe to that theory of like, oh, they overpaid for this guy. It ain't my money. Yeah. I get to get excited about this dude. I get the roof for him.

It ain't my money. That's like fucking hate the Red Sox now because they trade away Mookie and they could have been, ain't my money and just paid him. Yeah. There's a salary dump as fuck. You're true. All right, boys.

Yes. We have talked for a long ass time about a whole lot of nothing. Again. You're good at that. Yeah. So unless anybody has anything pressing, they want to say. Just really want to talk more with Greg about how awesome Bill Belichick is and how master class.

I think it was, I think he, I like what he's doing. I really do. Me too. I like it. The genius. We're all in the same page finally. Wow. Yeah.

The church of Belichick. Yes. The latter day church of Belichick. I don't know why latter day, but okay. And we certainly ain't saints. The sleeveless day church of Belichick. Beautiful. All right.

Well, until next week, when we're back to a regularly scheduled programming, I'm assuming unless something else. Playoffs. Playoffs. Yes. We will see you later. Unless that next game is the Titans 2000. 2003.

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