Patriots Dynasty Podcast - Emergency Episode: Tom Brady

Episode Date: March 18, 2020

This sucks. Join us as we progress through the five stages of grief after learning of Tom Brady's desire not to return to the New England Patriots. Well, six stages if you count all the drinking.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/patriots-dynasty-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

All right, here we go somber Welcome to Podcast stop fucking laughing. This is not a laughing matter more somber. Yeah somber This is the sombers I get boys. I have not been in a good place today this is a departure from a regularly scheduled programming because There's been some big news today Tom Brady has decided not to return to the new one Patriots

Allegedly, does anybody have the so yeah, we'll start there. Does anybody have the actual quote up somewhere? No, I didn't even finish it. No, I Couldn't get through all of it. I read the first couple sentences then the last one just to see if he was staying and that was it So maybe we go through it together. Let's let me see if I can pull it up real quick Look Tom Brady's trending on TV Do it in like a funny voice or something so it's a little more entertaining because it's a long one. I cannot There's two of them. Yes. I think the fans and the coaches and the blah blah blah So there's two of them the first one

goes along with the Title what the fuck you want to call it on Twitter the text forever a patriot in all caps which I'm gonna disagree with that Says to all my teammates coaches executives and staff coach Belichick RKK and the Kraft family and the entire organization I want to say thank you for the past 20 years of my life and the daily commitment to winning and creating a winning culture built on great values I am grateful for all that you've taught me I have learned from everyone you all have allowed me to maximize my potential and that is all a player You can ever hope for everything we have accomplished brings me great joy and the lessons. I have learned will carry on with me forever

I couldn't be the man. I am today without the relationships. You have allowed me to build with you. I Benefited from all you have given me I cherished every opportunity I had to be a part of our team and I love you for all of that Our team has always had a great standard in pro sports, and I know that will continue to do just that Although my football journey will take place elsewhere I appreciate everything that we have achieved, and I'm grateful for our incredible in all caps team accomplishments I have been privileged to have the opportunity to know each and every one of you and to have the memories we've created together Some solid words smithing from his publicist there. Yeah, and that was just as boring as when I read it

There's also another one to the fans. Love you Pat's nation is jumping guys. I Don't care. I don't want to hear it. Okay. I know what it says. What does it say? Absolutely nothing. Yeah Work smithing from his publicist. Yeah No, I don't think he did Yeah, no Tom Brady doesn't take shortcuts Dude, he would speak it and then somebody would make it prettier. No, he signed off on it They said Tom this is what we're gonna do and he said yeah, that was good actually no

He changed this to that. Trust me. He did not write that No, you know what happened is Tom wrote this and it's been a week editing it himself man You know are in a mood putting in the time. I Disagree. All right initial reactions when you first heard it I Had heard that this was gonna happen weeks ago by somebody in the biz so I made turns Yeah, what is in the biz even mean? I can't reveal my sources or else. What's the point so that guy? Well, in the biz was this a guy that was deflating footballs for him Is this a guy that a popcorn stand in Gillette like this is a guy who's in Brady's inner circle

I'll give you that. Is this a guy that new has also banged the two girls. He's banged That's a different guy. He doesn't know Brady. He's only been with ladies that know Brady So how many how many guys you know my cheese? I mean, I'm in LA. I've been here since 2006 I should know one or two. It's not I don't know What would you bang him Tom Brady? No, no the source. Oh, no Really hurt his feelings He's like that type of dude

I don't know if he is but I'm so sorry and I would say his name, but I can't reveal him So I really apologize, but no, I wouldn't Wow, that's yeah harsh. That's all right Yeah, so I came to terms with this a little while ago thinking that it could happen I Don't know. I think it's to be honest I think it's a pretty interesting turn of events for the dynasty and I'm actually looking forward to seeing how

Whatever teeny lands on looks like the box And the past how they look in the next couple of years. I think it'll be a little bit fun That's clearly not the the overall sentiment though, so you might jump in I'm not ready for that yet. I Looked it up to and like the five stages of grief Yeah, I'm like, I'm on there, you know, where are you at? Depression give me the stages Denial is first. Yeah I was like, wait, he hasn't signed anywhere though. Yeah, right like he's right

This is an official and then there was anger and I was like, oh fucking Bill Belichick. What an asshole I was like, just I'll probably made him do it, you know Did you ever get angry at Brady himself like what the fuck are you doing? Really? Okay, no Bargaining is third Yeah, I don't really understand that one. So I skipped it. It's the quickest one. I think yeah It's like well, well, maybe if I if I donate to a go fund me we can keep Tom Brady back Yeah, oh, I did consider like maybe he's retiring That would hurt less bargaining, right? Oh, yeah, I did that. Yeah, and then depression and then acceptance

Are you there? You're not there, right? No, it's not there I mean Yeah, no, I'm not there yet So my wife today My flat We've been at home Together due to the coronavirus stuff. Oh, yeah, that's going on too Yeah, so today was the first day that we're both home from work

Because she's a teacher and she had to go in yesterday to like figure out how they're gonna teach people and uh I told her the news when she she woke up because I was already up working and You could see that she's been trying to help me all day, but she doesn't know how so she was asking me about it today at dinner before this And she wants to know Like what I was feeling and the only way I could explain it to her was that it feels like a grown-up version of

The day you found out Santa Claus doesn't exist Now here's a problem with that. I can't I don't know what that means because I never quite believed so give me another analogy Another analogy, yeah I know you Santa Claus That's you in yeah, so what what is it? When you realize your mother didn't love you. Oh, my mom's the best. What are you you guys are lying to yourselves? Yeah Oh, okay, see

Go on I'll try to understand what you're talking about So it just felt like A piece of my childhood had finally died Okay, I my childhood died the moment I came out of the womb next All right You did grow up in Lawrence. Yeah, that's true. That's true. So all right the the moment you realized you were growing up in Lawrence. Oh You got me

But it is I mean we joke to people who Like outside the brown family when they ask if we're patriots fans or at least I do and the only way I can explain to them is that Uh, Patriots football was the closest thing the brown family came to religion Sure. That was our church. Yeah, like every sunday We get dressed up in a different way the people go into church would we'd put on our our sunday best Which is usually Patriots gear and we would all gather around the the television

and we'd watch our our our god and jesus tom brady and Bill Belichick and we we'd probably do a little bit of praying. I know I did I don't know about you boys And it's something that's been going on for like since 2000 for 20 years through our formative years of growing up the one constant In all this change in our lives as we turn from I know Mike you and I were what 2000 was

I mean that was right around beginning of college, maybe Yeah, I'll say like even before that to that we graduated in a one Yeah, so a little before that but I mean the brady years end of high school. I'm like, yeah, exactly Yeah, the end of high school beginning college. So our kind of Are growing up years, you know and the one constant of that was The trio of robber craft bill belichick and tom brady and the success that they would have Yeah, and I mean, you know in Being less glib about it

You know and looking back Like we've touched on I think the patriots were pretty important especially for us you know Playing out with other kids and connecting with people on that level I remember like in 96 how devastated we were when the pads lost the Super Bowl And it was a feeling that I couldn't shake for quite some time and it's funny looking back But it was it seemed extremely important and I I think at the time it was And we never quite felt that again until this run and I was in New York

During the first Super Bowl and several others When I was at the first three, right? Right. Yeah, exactly. So that was a really fun experience Especially being at that age and just ragging on people. Um, you know, the red sock thing. Yeah, you know, you know I'm always good people rag on me and then I have to defend myself. That's how I feel You never started you just finish it We never rag on you Mike. Hey, I I appreciate that. I love you guys and I uh, I don't say it enough Shut up loser. Okay. Fuck you. Um, Jesus

Yeah, that I'm never doing that again. But yeah, so, uh, that was an interesting, uh, time for me and it was all Very fun. I mean you get the uh, the uh, bar conversation. So as you got older, that was fun So he definitely provided quite a bit of enjoyment in my life personally But now he's gone and uh, he'll provide us with more entertainment with the bucks and the patriots face off in the Super Bowl Super Bowls in Tampa I mean, could you write this better? Did Brady hire the best writers for the NFL? I mean, come on

I have a I don't know somewhat different perspective than you guys That's it Well, ever since the Lord Malloy see you later Which was You know shocking to me as a kid. Like you said Andy. It's like like God smiting Abraham Yeah, was it like oh for I mean Belichick's been pretty consistent. He's gonna do whatever's best of the team. So I don't know. I kind of saw it come

a little bit There's so many players who've also taken like the Jerry Rice and Emmett Smith and Joe Montana, you know, there's like more probable than not that someone's gonna Not finish a career there. And yeah, like we all like held out hope that maybe Belichick will, you know, make an exemption this one time but like Yeah It didn't feel like that for me though because Brady has always taken The he's always put the team first, you know, especially when it came to

Yeah deals But I bet if you come out when you see whatever the fucking money they gave Brady, I don't I've heard it's 30 million a year Which means it's probably two years 60 ish Yeah, but I mean probably give him like one in 15. So if you if you actually look at the overall money he's made I think I looked it up. It was like It was like $325 million of the course of his career and he's not the the main bread winner in his family His wife's made twice that that's how it's been. So what's it?

What's an extra 60 million at that point? Well, and to your point Even on the uh, you know, the there's people in the patriots that have talked about this and the organization where They've leaked out that like Brady hasn't given up as much money as we think he's prolonged it And he's deferred it and he's taken it in bonuses and he's made million dollars in salary But then cashed in for 20 million dollar bonuses So he might have taken, you know, maybe like four or five million less here or there But it's not as like crazy as people make it out to be That's true. I mean he has taken some

Some discounts, but you're right hasn't been as aggressive as maybe some people make it out to be right and I also what I think is funny is The team that is that surrounds Brady year after year people are saying oh, well, he didn't have the weapons He didn't have this. He didn't have that right? And I understand that argument except it doesn't quite make sense to me because if Brady knew and if the Staff knew that he could elevate players Then they are located or at least try to locate these funds to the rest of the team So he's had a little bit better defense than some other teams

He's had a little better special teams than some other teams sometimes even in the Super Bowl It's bailed them out kickers the Patriots consistently pay kickers a little bit higher than they normally would otherwise so It's not just the receivers and the tight ends which he also had one of the greatest tight ends of all time, but They've allocated that money in a way that has provided a a overall team for two decades. So that's something to consider as well Well, I think what they do is that they They have a system and they fit the best people into every slot that they can for that system So they don't go out and spend a shit ton of money

on one or two people but over like the the Brets of that system They make sure they have better players than are on the other side of the ball They're the opposite of the Cowboys Cowboys are paid the top five guys Amari Cooper 100 million bucks. Yeah, where the page is trying to build a strong middle class exactly right

Not paying the quarterback the top and money allows them to build that strong middle class And that's the same approach. I took here with no doubt and then the bucks came along and said Here is just an absolutely absurd offer Well, yeah, but I also I know yet, right, but the uh, the The argument I keep hearing is that the last year they had no receiver as well Devlin was hurt. Uh, the line, um, was decimated Julian Edelman was hurt most of the year Sanu was hurt after we acquired them

No tight ends that I understand, but they thought that maybe that they would resign Gronk So that was one year, right? And I keep hearing everybody going. Oh man last year I understand the last year was like a disaster by Patriots terms, but Um years, I mean they won the Super Bowl, you know, what two out of four years So it's not like they provided them with nothing And like we've had worse to see records like doesn't reshape Caldwell a leading receiver on our team once Yeah, and they went to what? Yeah

But yeah, I'm taking half time too. They were close Not that I hate B. J Best bug out of his business But it's Maybe like Brady can't elevate these people now. Maybe I still think it was more injury based But I think this this more stems from probably a little animosity with him and bella check uh, you know that Working for a boss that you can't tolerate for a while. I don't think that's true. I think it's more purely money

Patriots were like 115 and tom Yeah, but then I disagree as well. If you look at the Bucs team, their receivers are great. The defense is great. The the Their defense is great. Yeah, they Yeah, but it's been it's been trending upwards and they just spent some money on some people. Yeah, what's their offensive line like? That I don't know. I'm great. I'm not sure about that one I mean, you can't really tell with james winsome behind it. So right Money

If it was about money Right because the chargers would probably give them the same deal right and more opportunity in la I'm I'm telling you. I bet the Bucs blew them out of the water with their offer But why why does it matter now? Why that's that's my question don't matter for 20 years. It matters now I think it's a respect thing like Me too didn't even come close and weren't willing to budge at all or make any accommodations And he was like fuck this dude. Why am I gonna? You know put my ass on the line and you know

Come down to you when you're not even willing to meet me halfway. That's what I think I completely agree and and it's like this started man Like if you remember the year when this year to year crap was starting, um, I think it was the beginning of like 2018 I'm not sure but uh Remember when he wanted an extension and they're like, you know what? We'll give you incentives They did they did the same thing the ground a couple years braided and he had anything I think it was like five million dollars in incentive. You didn't get anything right now. Maybe you got a backdoor check I don't know

But um on face value. He got nothing so then the next year. He's like yo, give me um Give me a couple of years. I want to play until i'm 45. They give him a one-year contract this year a one-year contract I mean even if it was a two-year would be voidable probably So you got to think if the guy is saying hey, man I want to work here for the next four to five years and you're telling me you only value me out one year Not even like money and whatever it's it's about legacy. It's like, all right You're gonna disrespect me like that in the last like three years of my my career Yeah, after everything i've done

Yeah, it doesn't look like that bell checks us. What's best for the team? Well? Yeah in 2020 And that's a different thing being calm brady 30 million dollars a year is not in the best interest of the team I agree. I I think the overall best decision is probably with the patriots and brady came up with But if i'm brady, I totally get if that's what's happening. I totally can can sympathize with that 100% I agree both sides of the equation bell check thinks it's dumb to pay him 30 million dollars a year Because he thinks that he's a 43 year old quarterback And brady this is his last chance to make a shillet of money

And feels they're suspected to play for 10 million dollars a year or whatever their offer was Go to florida where there's no income tax Make bank Yeah, but there's got to be a middle ground there right because The patriots Could make a run this year with brady, right? Not going to without him. I don't know about that. Let's did him the stud I don't know about that. Uh, what makes you say that way? We don't know. All right. All right. Then let's say this

They have better odds with brady than not. I'll give you that So how is there not a middle ground there? I mean if if you want to play into the ego What was that? He would have taken 23. He would have retired as a patriot. Everyone would have loved them, you know Dude, but isn't there like and I know that this has been talked about and like I don't know what's real and what isn't Because the guy that I know only told me that he was going to leave the patriots and he told me the wrong team So fuck that guy. He doesn't know anything, but

I'm out of mouth What's wrong did he say? He uh, he said the chargers. So I think there's uh, there's some misinformation there, but um, I mean, I guess we'll see How do you source like like what made you trust them? Um, I can't go into that information Come on I have a question for y'all. Do you still love tom brady? Are you gonna root for him this year? Yeah, yeah, I want to I want to beat him in the super bowl

I'm not watching you for the box this year What no next year no They play the chargers this year. I think it's they do. Yeah play the box at home. They would play the box at home next year I mean, I think that'd be a fascinating story. I mean, we were looking forward to the jimmy g brady matchup or at least I was so this is another element I wanted to do just like okay I would like to see him dominate and the patriots

No, I'd want to be like eight and eight Struggle behind a poor saw offensive line Maybe put us some decent numbers, but not really win a lot of games I would like to see brady put up career numbers Yeah, so that he kind of shows that he doesn't need the patriots or bella check But then bella check wins the super bowl So then he shows well, I don't need you either and then everybody wins Including the patriots, which is what we want. I think all right. Let's talk about what do you guys think brady's gonna put up this here

Looks like realistic expectations from a stat line perspective for him You gotta keep in mind. There's no offseason one more game One more game no offseason and potentially two more games because only one team now gets to buy Oh, shit, right You've heard the rumors about a b going there too, right? I'll believe it I haven't heard that but I've heard he wants to so that makes sense Is he even the number one wide receiver in that offense? Dude, Antonio brown evans godwin

Great And then he can hand the ball off to um He And uh, what's his name is is protecting his blindside. Um, uh Um I can feel it It hurts him to think but he'll get that then when he gets close the kicker will just knock it through for him Um

Martin grammatica There you go Florida state that they they moved up in the draft again I'm here to cut him. Oh, yeah, they cut him after one year He was like a third round pick. Yeah Dude, I knew let's talk about the like Like the risk factor of like making this decision though on both ends man because like if brady crafts himself and the team sucks That is embarrassing. Obviously. So you can get like again, I think that when you like

Oh, man, the bucks will be so good. Well, you just went through this exercise of like, yeah, they're skill position players are awesome but I think the infrastructure of our offense is not Running Shit, like I can't name a single bucks offense alignment In the past like three or four years either like I can't think of anybody Since like Logan mankins was there. That's even decent I don't yeah, I wouldn't know the o-line. I don't know if anybody else can speak to that

I don't know anybody's o-line if i'm being honest fact check Yeah, who they're presumptive five starters from espn.com Tampa Bay Buckingham's depth chart left tackle dunovan smith Left guard ali marpet Oh, yep. He's both okay. He's all right Never heard of him center ryan jensen Love me some ryan right guard alex kappa Right tackle damar dotson. Oh the car

No, I think i've heard of donovan wasn't donovan like a first round pick, but he hasn't been very good Ali's supposed to be a pretty good guard and that's it Yeah, man. I know all those donovan smith was the second round pick. So no Who's the other guy ali marpet? Let's see. Yeah, it's supposed to be good. It's the second round pick as well kappa The muppet might have made a pro bowl. I think Dotson, I don't think he was drafted because it just says college southern miss and nothing about Haven't been drafted. Wait. Who's the other guy kappa kappa third round pick never heard of kappa 2018 alex kappa

Yeah, alex kappa dappa Uh, here's a beast Yeah, you have no idea to you Yes, I have I have All right, where'd you go to school then if you know so much about him kappa Hey, so you want to hear uh pro football focus? Yeah. Yeah, let's hear that. Oh, there you go. That's where they Uh bottom quarter of the league 29

Um, I'm gonna say they were trending upwards. I'm gonna go 23 seven What? Yo, see you guys don't know shit Ryan Jensen and ali marpet anchored the middle of the box offensive line Provided some of the best past protection that we saw from any interior offensive line this season. Yeah Okay, what about tackles? I don't know. I didn't say anything

That's a good I'm pretty sure the defense is trending upwards too, man. This is a genius move Okay, um Pats bucks in the Super Bowl calling it either this year or next year and I wouldn't be surprised if it's a three-year deal Because that would be insane and I love it Uh, yeah, the deal's gotta be crazy I'm interested in all the specifics

And none of this voidable crap either three legit years Guaranteed money 100 million dollars The bills when the AFC east No favorites. No, man. I mean, so we're losing that much faith, huh? Well, they just picked up, uh Digs too. Yeah, he's gonna be happy there That's a good point

He's gonna hate it Imagine going from minnesota to buffalo though. It's just uh, yeah Same old same old. Yeah, one of those things where it's like the monkey paw And he's like, I just want to get out of like minnesota I will go anywhere except for minnesota and the one of the fingers the monkey paw closes He gets trade to buffalo. He's like block I've never heard monkey blocks

You've never heard that But the wishes always go badly. Isn't that an Edgar Allen Poe? Yeah, something like that. I don't know. It's in a simpsons howling episode. Yes. It is. That's right Those never made any sense to me W. W. Jacobs supernatural short story 1902 the monkey's paw. All right, that's one. Well, there you go Give me a give me a recap of it the cliff notes foreshadowing

Yeah, you know Intense this that the other Edgar Allen Poe Oh Because anyone that feels like any box fans Are there any I don't know any and I know a lot of different fans I know some old people that live in the area, but I don't think they're fans Hmm

Yeah, I mean, I know some lightning fans. I know some pretty hardcore lightning fans But no box. Yeah, I haven't I haven't come across one in the whole people But I know Vikings fans, I know hardcore bills fans I even know They're still hanging on Really they haven't moved on the XFL I mean, we're into that too, but I'm getting season tickets to the box next year right in the pirate ship

I would I would have watched some some chargers games, but that's not gonna happen now I think box Brady Jersey All right, so what do you think uh, Bruce Aryans is gonna do with his offensive Philosophy now is he gonna tailor it to Brady or is Brady gonna fit to Aryans? I mean, does any kind of cater to it already a little bit? No, they're they're like oh big downfield passing attack. Well, that's what the game is Yeah, but um luck sometimes is a dink and dunk guy A little bit. It was uh, I mean he was a smarter guy. I mean he'd fling it when they were down by 20 and he'd throw picks, but And that's one thing Brady theoretically is not gonna throw picks

So If they take that like dink and dunk style and lob one here and there I mean, how do you guys feel about if he if they do ask him to lob it more? Because I mean Brady wasn't hasn't really connected with the guys down the field in a little bit Brady's never been a great deep thrower. What? That's not true Are you nuts? Yeah, you're already No, he had he had a great run with moss Yeah, but he's always been more accurate than a great deep ball thrower

I agree with that Like his strength has been decision-making and accuracy not Huck it down the field. Wait Andy When he was back there Yeah, when he was back there and he lobbed it you thought that the guy was gonna catch it How often do you think that was gonna happen? If you have outside of the front like branding cooks Even him. Yeah

He was one of yeah, he was one of the most accurate deep throwers when he had branding cooks In the league that year I think With rainy moss back there. He was awesome, but I think rainy moss makes anybody an awesome deep thrower Yeah, I've never said we're starting for the the raiders. I don't think he's a bad Thrower, but I don't think that's his strength of his game chef Garcia Is that who it was? I don't know

Who do you think it was wasn't it the César up guy the fuck was his name? I'm looking it up. Well, is it 2016? 2006 but okay. Oh, yeah Let me ask you a question then Aaron Brooks No, I think like yeah through Walt. Here you go. Here you go. Here you go. Hang on Mike. What what? 2006 Oakland Raiders season starting quarterbacks number one Aaron Brooks

Marcus to a So sopo Were the quarterbacks to his cousin mosey tattoo I think the year before that he was also on the team in 2005 So they traded for him. Yep, and that was carry Collins carry

So sopo and Andrew Walter. So where is your Marcus Russell? That's it out because he that's who I was thinking it was Because he could throw them all That's how we got drafted by the Raiders I'm looking for him No, wow rick myrer was a quarterback in the Raiders in 2003 I know Must have been after that who the fuck cares

I don't know. We'll see how that how those two mesh I mean Brady's had one system his whole life with a specific set of terminology. Do you try and teach the rest of the offense that? We're trying to teach Tom Brady Bruce Arians kind of downfield attack because that's I mean That's why James was such a boom and bust guy last year partly because Yeah, offense is Huckett partly because he couldn't see a fucking middle. I'm actually dropping but But he also talked. Yeah part of that was there's a lot of big plays in that offense Yeah, Steve. I mean I'm catching some hater vibes from you right now

Look, I agree with Steve If Brady is still on the Patriots, I probably wouldn't say this but like Oh, he was last couple years Then first of all the uh bucks uh gm is a Patriots guy So that culture in that system is already someone in place anyway Um, the offense of philosophy is different though, right? But the way that the the the company has run as a whole on the organization I think um, you're gonna he's gonna find some similarity or comfort there

But by paying their quarterback twice as much what he's worth No, but like who's there like Jason licked? I think it is. Yeah Yeah, so I mean I I think that some of his philosophies are are similar obviously like You also want to sell tickets and Brady guarantees that so why not? Oh, yeah, it does But what I was gonna ask Andy like, you know, since you think like he's You know a really good uh deep ball thrower What if he got a guy like a Debo Samuel or a Metcalf or instead of you know, the the guy that we got

And he was a downfield guy. So most of the route tree is down the field, right? So let's let's remove let's remove like the option routes and whatever from the equation Because that's that appears to be the complicated aspect of wide receiver You know learning curve on the paths We'll just say downfield runner if that guy's on the team You think that he's as successful as you know, he was in San Fran or any of these other guys that had success Their rookie years He's as successful as Brandon cooks was in 2017

who Whoever you're talking about those downfield threat guys Yeah, but a rookie is going to be different than than cooks So i'm saying do you think that like because these these rookies seem to do fine with these other quarterbacks? So that's what i'm asking is throwing a rookie with Brady go downfield. Do you think that's a success? Yeah Me neither. I think he has to have a seasoned guy who you know has to Uh pick up the system quick and there's all these stipulations

But in terms of just like like lobbing the field down In accuracy. I don't think uh, he's Tops consistently. I think that's the system too, right? It's bella check as much or McDaniels whatever your fault. Yeah, I don't I don't think there has anything to do with Brady. I think You think that you've got a guy that can only run deep roots. Does he have a voice in the system? Yeah, I think they both run the show together. Well, he runs the system. Yeah, but right so you You know lob a ball down the field of that I don't think it's built that way. I don't think McDaniel

Yeah, maybe because of the limitations of you know Whatever is happening back there the offensive line perhaps perhaps being able to give him more than Two and a half seconds. Maybe his arm strength. Maybe all this stuff. I don't know. He is 43 man are gonna be I mean look to test your theory Go ahead. I said he did seem awfully grouchy last year too. He did he was yelling at everybody and look Like that would get me down and I would not play with confidence. You know, yeah Yeah, we know I'm getting bashed time and time again. Like I think he elevated the rookies like once or twice throughout the year

um But yeah, now when like Steve was saying, um, you know, we'll see what the system is Uh with the bucks But he does have some fast guys there So if he can't be as accurate as you claim that he is that's going to be an interesting thing to hear the fallout And I guess we'll find out as the year unfolds I'm just happy people stop asking me. Where do you think?

Oh, you think the questions are done. You out of your fucking mind Well, here's my dilemma. How do you feel about prairie dog coming back? Who's going to be the starting quarterback now? Who do you think is going to be better brady or bell check? Do you think the question is done built my entire brand at work about just being a big tom brady homer Shocking like I have to make people passwords all the time. I just always make them tom brady So they don't forget them you make the oa zero for security purposes Nope No, I do I heart tom brady, but the heart is like the uh less than symbol and then the three. Yeah

Uh, whatever it is. Yeah, so for any hackers out there. Yeah, and like my desktop background you change every 30 seconds every Oh, right, right. Nice seconds Right actually india. I have a um, I have a photoshop request for you. Can you take that? I have a desktop background. It's like a salt bay sprinkling salt, but it's like tom brady's head and he's sprinkling super bowl rings Yeah, and you make that gerrit stittum's head instead Yeah Steve's already pivoting Again, I really love them. You never really loved it. That's what it feels like

I just I'm wondering you guys aren't excited to see how this unfolds My choice would be brady stays and finishes out his last what two three years. Sure But this is gonna be fun. Yeah, I think It feels wrong to just move on and be like I feel like This is what I would have felt like if my parents had divorced What? Like yeah, cool. I got two christmases, but it still fucking sucks. Yeah, and we're asking questions like who they're gonna marry next You know, yeah. Oh, is is there his mom's new boyfriend gonna be as cool as tom brady? No

It's tom fucking brady. It's my dad like fuck Well, I mean my parents are divorced and it is what it is. No, they're not Oh No, they're just miserable together. Oh Nice like bill and tom were like all parents They're lovely people along that thread. What's your uh, what's your favorite all-time brady moment? Hang on before we get there because that's a little too positive for me right now. Oh I have one. Uh, who is the starting quarterback for the Patriots week one stut them

Yeah, dude Stid the stud you know Greg cam newton I hope not, man Why not they uh, they signed teddy bridge. Why are you fucking kidding me? You you're the one that wants you're the one that wants the whole Uh, to see how exciting this can be. What's more exciting?

Dude Then james fucking. No, well, yeah, fair enough But no cam newton as a patriot that guy is I wouldn't say he's the best decision maker I've ever seen cam was an mvp So what do you see? Do you see him playing that super bowl? He made a super bowl. Yeah, that's one. Oh, there's a lot of other quarterbacks that we get Not true. Not true. Jimmy g Name another quarterback who is on the market right now who's been to a super bowl

Jimmy g He's not on the market according to the rumors True breeze He just signed two years 50 million dammit See, that's the deal That's what we could have had Oh, um, who's the uh backup for the chiefs?

Back for the chiefs No, he went to the house games Because that guy went into a super bowl More Super Bowl Yeah, now more I think we can get him He went to the super bowl Alex Smith when he's back up to that

Who played in the super bowl? Nick foals. He's available Capernic man, you're not even thinking. Oh, yeah Rg3 See so there you go. There's options galore above cam newton I'm on cam train. I'm in on cam dude He could barely stand up at this point in this camp newton with capernicus is back up

Being hurt relax So, all right, so here's here's a uh, a quarterback threesome for you cam newton's a starter No, rg3 number two. No t-bow number three. No What's wrong with you? Yeah, where's did him on that? Yeah, have have faith how to trade him for a I don't know a punter turn Dude, what if what a function what if drinking would make me feel better

I got a hot take Dr. Quarterback next year Julian Edelman Oh, my girlfriend If you're going to hot take you may as well say so new Combo Just a two quarterbacks or no quarterback system is one of those lines up in the walk at every time You don't believe the the hype that stittem is getting within the organization quote unquote

What if we bring back our all-time passing leader in passer rating tom brady? Nope Isn't it david patten I know I don't know what my podcast It's one of the receivers now because patents are an exception Maybe i'm in dola Dole Dole hasn't thrown a pass. I think yeah, he has bite your tongue dude stat check it It wasn't incomplete though. I'm pretty sure

But hey wait, what's wrong with stittem? What's your take on this guy? I don't have a take on the guy except that So far his last throw and tom brady's last throw will both pick sixes. Yeah, and I'm okay with that Good for you All right, uh, the top passers for the patriots in history Uh, there's three there's three people tied for first place We've already talked about one of them Was it patten? Nope

damn Julian correct. Yep, julian edelman 158.3. He has four for four 100 completion ration completion obviously Uh, 90 yards and a touchdown But I thought he had one in completion longest of 37 What? He had two touchdowns, didn't he? According to this, no

Ravens and then uh one this might this might just be regular season. I don't know it doesn't say dude He has one in completion for sure He does in the super bowl, right? I think so. I guess this must be regular season. So Uh, also tied with him. I guess we're doing regular season here uh Mosey to tupu Oh, I did I referenced him earlier too. Yeah the running back Uh, he was two for two 30 yards in the touchdown

Uh, and also gino capilletti the kicker Nice long time. Uh, they're all legends. Yeah, he was one for one Uh, 27 yards in the touchdown which i'm assuming was a Number four on this list. Holy shit It's a quarterback Steve rogan. No Similar age probably actually Lay it on us

Vinny test of artie I can see that I have i'm looking on pro football reference. I got dave megat One for one 35 guys in the touchdown. Oh, dude. He's he's debunking you Where are you looking? Pro football reference. Yeah, that's where i'm looking. I just sorted by Hmm It's the same thing

Let's do this. Let's say wow andy blue that one greg you got to be on this Scott zolack 128.2 That's not bad. No Seemed right at all to be completely honest. I don't remember worse than that What about uh that kid from new orleans the the Breezes backup They're trying to lock him up

Yeah, but they can't afford him didn't they put like a first round tender on him. They did I think so. Let's do it Well, we can't give up a first round perfect guy. Yeah, he's gonna be a starting quarterback No, yeah, but like if you if you sign a rookie in the first round you get him for five years On the chief. Oh, Mike. Why are you gonna ruin my dreams, buddy? Sorry Steve, I don't know where you're getting your fucking data from but I just Yeah, or maybe do the whole fucking thing Yeah, come at since since 1950

The dot passers for the new England Patriots descended sorted by passer rating descending Well, one gino capilletti. How are you looking it up before? Uh, they have a league leader list on there. Oh my god I just went to the season leaders passing Oh my god Season leaders. Yeah. Well, that's for worse. We're talking overall. See brown. Not just one season I already felt bad because I'm brady and now this you know what my numbers are exactly the fucking same Gino julian edelman mozi to tu pu rating 158.3 all three of them finny to support a big fourth

Steve Steve What I just went season leaders and there's more in the season leaders Number five adam venetary. Steve doesn't know how to use pro football reference Now, I don't know who to believe anymore. This sucks adam venetary is one for one Four yards and a touchdown. Do you remember the play is julian season of 2019 was two for two and davos Season of 97 was one for one. Gino season in 1961 was one for one mozi

Was one for one in 87. We're not talking about season. We're talking about overall cumulative Yeah, I just went by season What are you talking about season talking about cumulative I'm gonna bow out of this one now This is a list though. This is a list All right, we're just top 20 real quick. I'm just gonna give you Top 20 oh my god

Gino julian adam and mozi to pu viti test of already adam venetary I don't know who jim crawford is but you've only played from 1964 matt gudierrez Brady's backup in 07 lee johnson the punter michael. Yeah, rick Hey Whoa, had o'neill who I believe was a either a punter or a kicker. I don't remember Don westbrook. I've never heard of james white number 11 dav megat number 12 I don't know these guys. Oh, any of them dola jimmy garoppolo. Oh, dude, dude 16 17 remember 18

Who's number 18? Remember when brady left the patriots like recently. Tom fucking brady's number 18 Except he has 326 attempts No, sorry games Andy, can we get the same list top 20 for a completion percentage, please? that was It wasn't that was for pass rating, but it's tom brady has thrown 7 000 passes

Compared to Probably about 100 for the rest of guys on this list. Thank you andy And he is 18th He's still 18 after 7 000 passes. That's fucking well completions 11 000 pass How does that compare to all of the nfl? Can you let's get let's get that rolling You want all the nfl? I'm just kidding man. I I quit I waved the right or the white flag man. You win

It's been long damn it What's your favorite brady moment? All right, yeah start that Oh man, that's uh That's a tough one. You know what it is. I hate to say it But just right off the top of my head at least my favorite moment that I witnessed was Tuck roll game because I thought

I had a lot of hope that season I was watching with a couple of guys and I couldn't even watch I I thought it was a fumble some sale was but I thought it was a fumble I couldn't even look and then the guys that I was watching with couldn't believe it turned around. It was overturned And it was that moment that gave us new life. That was probably my favorite Feeling that I that I can remember It's spoiler there Yeah, right

I didn't I I didn't say when it happened or what game so keeping it I have two I have one that like In the moment and then one after review Okay The after review one was because I've watched the ram super bowl the first one a million times When he spikes the ball and he catches it, you know on the last play before I didn't notice that in in in the moment I actually did. I don't know why

I think you did it again in the um The carolina panther super bowl too something similar The in the moment one was there are some stealers safety that was shit talking about Hmm They just like ticked on them real hard and they scored a touchdown and very just ran up to the guy right after just beating them And just shit talk right to his fucking face. I was like, yeah, that's a good one. What's his name? I know who you're talking about too. Oh, I was so Anthony Smith. Oh, that's what it was. Yeah Well, that didn't even matter who he is because that he actually came up because he's a uh

Like a talking head on on some of the football things too really was talking about him. Yeah, like I still get a job Talking about football. Yeah, steel has caught him the next week I think they may have I do remember that Greg it's your favorite moment Mine's kind of like an obscure one to a certain degree But in the context of it, it was The divisional game

2014 against the ravens When they went down 14 nothing and then they came back tied it And then they went down 2014 Yep And that that first that first touchdown to make it 28 21 There's like a short touchdown to Gronk and I remember Brady just like Getting in the end zone and just like losing his mind right in front of the fans there

And I remember thinking like he ain't gonna lose this game And it was like right after, you know, we had been we've been quite a few years since those original three So a lot of people were like, is it just going to be free? Right Like is this going to be a case of like, you know, didn't live up to potential And I feel like that game turned that whole like second dynasty And I remember just being so hyped up being like

This means something to Brady as much as it means to me. Yeah Yeah That was the same game where he had a quarterback sneak where he got bent in half too, right? Remember that you dove over the pile And whoever the middle linebacker was a little time He was telling the right and his small of his back and he got up and he started John Adam right away Yep That was also the game that they were exploiting the rule book and laughing at the Ravens for it

Yeah, my favorite Patriots game And the julian Edelman toss too, man Lafell in the corner might be Brady's like We just put it in his hip pocket Yeah Yeah at everything Andy Brady had

I mean that wasn't that game that was a different game with the quarterback sneak He did have a rushing touchdown, but it was four yards out What's your favorite? Fuck My favorite game Would be this the seahawks super bowl the whole fourth quarter of that Brady was just A different person He was it was it was a historic defense. He was going against

And they hadn't won a Super Bowl on ages and All the shit was happening and he just decided like Greg said this game He wasn't gonna lose and he just put the whole team on his back He was getting harassed the entire game throwing a couple picks already And it just didn't fucking matter He was gonna win that game and the the touchdown to Edelman that they had tried before earlier in the game They tried like the in and out route to him

Yeah, Brady missed him And you just knew as soon as he hit him as soon as Brady hit Edelman, he pointed right at him As if to say like I know I miss you the first time, but I got you this time and we're winning this game So I think that is the one that stands out to me But it's the little shit like Greg was talking about like the We actually just saw the game last week about When they played the Dolphins and you had that catch

And you know May one it was his first catch of his career, but one of the only ones that he has and After the game, he's talking about how he turned a touchdown into a 23-yard game And that's just like Like that's the Tom Brady that I loved that he was Still self-deprecating and still trying to give credit to everybody else

I just actually read that today for whatever reason And it was this he's like, oh, yeah, you know I bit you about all the other wide receivers never catching my passes, but now I realize how hard it is I might take it easier on them sort of thing, you know And that's just to me who Brady is that also seems very No, I think that part shouldn't genuine from him. Yeah, that's who he's been forever. Like even back in yeah, he's very savage I remember uh His first big tv commercial. I don't even guys remember this it was a visa

Where he insisted all of his linemen at the time become the stars and like it was like how visa protects you or some shit like that Yes, this is also the guy that was like shit talking Peyton and saying that he was gonna outlast his career And you would never say that in public. So we don't know how he is I don't know have you that's exactly who he is No, because he would say oh Peyton is one of the greatest ever And I just uh love to compete against him and blah blah blah. We'll see what happens. I wish him the best That's what he would fucking say Yeah, he's both of those people

But he's the most competitive person ever But if you talk to him in real life outside of pr He would have been like oh man, I fucking rocked to that catch or whatever like he he has more ego than you're giving him It's No, that doesn't wait that doesn't make him a bad person. He's confident. Sure, right? Well, there's ego But he's so self deprecating which is fine. Sure, but there's ego Yeah, but his his public persona isn't necessarily like who he is I'd rather have his public persona than Peyton Mannings

Oh, I I agree. I think Peyton Mannings I love Peyton Yeah, I've come around on Peyton Manning But did you read the Mike Reese uh article today? I read nothing today It's actually kind of great. I'm still I'm still in phase four the the depression part of the I ain't gonna help Well, Mike Reese is kind of talking about that about like the more the off the field stuff because I mean obviously he has a lot more like

Interactions with Brady than a normal fan would oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. It was a nice moment Yeah, when he saw his kids in the parking lot and like stop them like talk to him for 20 minutes Yeah, I'm not saying he's a dick. I'm saying he has some fire Sounds like that's what you're saying. No, I'm saying that he has some fire He has an ego which is good and it makes him great but What you're saying the public persona isn't necessarily what his every every day Entourage is gonna witness so that's what I'm saying

But I'm saying that's a good thing because if you if you did feel like that pc stuff all the time He probably wouldn't be as great as he is all right, all right, um Joe Montana won nine games in his final season with the chiefs which is more than I thought Tom Brady over under Nine and a half wins next year over He's got extra game depends on replays

Oh, that's a good point if it's on the box, I think over if it's in LA, I don't know If it's in LA, it's under I'm going under Steve is pivoting so hard. I know yeah, I thought I was gonna be the worst, but I don't know I just think the bucks are all flash Now you think Brady's all flash I think braids a lot of substance. He's brought me a lot of joy to my life Yeah, but Brady stocks now. I mean if Brady has to learn a new offense. Is he still the same guy?

I mean he learned a new offense when he went from michigan to new england It's like 98 20 fucking years ago. Yeah, all right. What else you got? Yeah, but also if you believe the rumors that he wants control over the system and whatever if that's the case Personally, yeah, then I think he'll do all right I don't know I'm less confident. I got a quiz for you guys Actually first first off. I have a question that I've been debating myself all day

Is today the official end of the pages dynasty Well, if you're a patriot and not a Brady fan if you're true patriots friend, that's that's to be decided I mean this could run for another 40 years. We don't know. I I think I think it is Well, here's my battle I've had in my head. We're seeing we're seeing the line I guess between Steve and myself and you guys on Brady versus Patriots. Yeah, we have definitely separated here me and Okay, it's like you guys are rooting for the corporation of the Patriots, right? What makes you love the Patriots? It's the players on the team, right? It's rooting for Tom Brady It's not rooting for the flag and the you know, it's

You like sports because you like watching the players, right? I like the Patriots before Tom Brady started playing. Correct It's it's like being like when you're with people that are into politics and they're just like whatever Democrat or Republican comes along. They're my new favorite Wait, didn't I say that I want him to break records and then I want him to lose in the Super Bowl No, I want Brady to have as much continued success as he can Because I love the Patriots. Yes Wow

I love Tom Brady. I said why and I want him to have success as well. I love him more I'm not gonna say that. I love him more than the Patriots is what you're about to say More than his wife is what he's gonna say I mean to be fair, it's been a longer relationship. So I get it. Yeah, it's a battle I've been fighting. I love my flash Yeah, I don't man, I think like because the dynasty era As we're calling it was three people Who's Robert Kraft? It was Bill Belichick and it was Tom Brady. Does that end now that Tom Brady is not a part of that?

Well, yeah, there's only two of them. I think I think it depends. I think it's yet to be seen if if the Patriots can continue to be successful Post Brady then no So what's success to you if the Patriots? Obviously if the Patriots Super Bowl this year that's success. What if stitum is in the answer? That's what they go with Well, what does the what does that mean because the Patriots had 10 years of no Super Bowl with Tom Brady? I would think I would think if you'd let me finish my sentence. I'll tell you Okay, so let's say the pages don't so was here. Maybe stitum is in the answer They go five years before they draft another quarterback

Whatever Belichick still the coach of the team and they wouldn't super bowl five years from now Is the dynasty still going are they still making the playoffs every year? No Maybe they make the playoffs half the time Then it's dead It's already dead So they know it's not already. This is what it means Like what where's the line? Where's the line if he's making?

I'm with steve on this one again if he's if stitum makes I don't know an a sc championship and then a wild card and then goes to the Super Bowl and loses and then That's the pattern. I still think it continues What if stitum goes six and ten or else? I guess six and 11 this year because well, no, it's still this year is is still six and game six and ten this year Goes ten and six next year makes the wild card but loses And then what yeah, exactly And then somebody else

Well, then yeah, then it's continued. I think if you have multiple seasons of just be in the redskins Then yeah, all right. What if all right. So how about this? How about okay? So that's your line. What if Six and ten this year They make the wild card the next three years but lose all three years then it's over Yeah, you gotta get past All right, what if they get past the wild card once in those times without losing the division? All right, let me give you a definitive like is that he has to make he has to make the a ofc championship He has to make the playoffs every year for the next three years and make the a ofc championship once

That's tough. No tough Think about think about the cults, right? You think about the Peyton Manning error And then you think about the Andrew Luck error, right? There's one you're in between those But you don't combine them together and go, oh, it's the cults dynasty Well, if Andrew Luck was a little better, you would have I wouldn't know He only made one Super Bowl. Well, yeah, but those are different You could say oh, there's the Peyton run and then there's the Andrew Luck run and you can compare those But as an organization, you can say wow, what like um people say that about San Fran all the time

They also didn't have consistency in their front office or their head coach, right? But yeah, what about the Niners? Do you can Who's more responsible for the dynasty Brady or the organization, right? Well, that's a different conversation Yeah, I think you could still have a dynasty and Brady was still more valuable than stitum, but I think you could still win Yeah, but who's more valuable like if you're removed well, that's It's a different question. If we're gonna get on that topic then we can do that We all can agree that Robert Kraft is the most valuable, right? You get out of here. Good. You want to get stuck with Dan Snyder?

That's a fair point. It's a good point. Yeah, come on Maybe I'm the closest to it because I live in DC, but my god a bad owner ruins everything Yeah, but a semi competent owner could pull off. Well, he also has to keep in check egos I'm sure he has to you know decide when to give certain people leeway. It's a tough job. So That's not a bad answer players win games All right, but wait a minute before we move on to who's more important Greg, what do you think about the 49ers reign then? Is that not a dynasty between Joe Montana and steve young? Definitely is it's a good rebuttal Mike. Okay, cool. Okay, we can move on

I don't know. I would that was before my time if I'm being honest. That's fair You know, I don't I don't remember the transition from Montana to to young to be fair neither to me and Mike Yeah, we caught a bit tail end. Maybe steve young mostly. Yeah, I remember steve young Or even like fard rogers, right? You don't consider that one long longevity. It's true Yeah, but I think you're changing and starting quarterback is Is that what they I mean? I think packers still had success as much as they did with either quarterback They both went to a did they both win a Super Bowl? They did. Yeah, but I don't think that they're a dynasty Regardless of who was quarterback. I mean in Green Bay, right?

Oh, yeah, but I I could I could view it as a good run as a team with both quarterbacks for sure But I don't think that they're a dynasty regardless You also don't put that as one good run. You put it as two separate ones, right? I I view it as an organizational run I mean you have like The owner that's my team. So if you can sustain, let's say if craft goes from palazzo Which was like better results than we then we had then he goes into brady and then he goes into let's say No

Wins a couple and it continues. That's a massive run for an organization. That's a huge accomplishment more more so than Having one great player if you can turn three players into greatness. That's fantastic The errors are defined by the players that play there's different errors, but I'm thinking from like the overall perspective Okay, so I'm thinking from a podcast perspective Do we have an end date now? Wait Oh to this podcast or yes in general

Keep an eye on the next couple of years I mean, we've got plenty of time to figure it out. I'm just right asking the questions. I think it continues I think it's not officially dead until I mean, let's say bella check retires And mcdaniel's takes over and then he has success. I think it continues. So I'm I'm TBD on this one see to me if If it's a mcdaniel's and a different starting quarterback winning more super bowls, that to me is the second era Me too. Is there no that's not the dynasty era Well, I think a dynasty is defined by sustained success

I agree So if we just keep making similar people though, we keep making playoffs then it doesn't matter over You mean it's still a dynasty We can successfully transition Brady to the next starting quarterback and keep winning the afc east and keep making playoffs And then we can transition bella check to mcdaniel's and keep making playoffs and Transition to another starting quarterback. That's a really long sustained dynasty I agree

And if we're using your definition and then any time that they get new players, which is every year We can reassess that because you're essentially saying the quarterback is the most important But there's turnover everywhere and sometimes there's mainstays everywhere So let's say your quarterback isn't the best player, but you have a monster linebacker that like Changes the game. Let's say ray lewis So you're putting you're placing importance on quarterback coach and dynasty, but that's not how I'm viewing it necessarily I see I I can make the argument that we've already been through two patriots dynasties those first

To me there the trademark is you win championships, right in a small cluster of time You get like five years in between championships You're already moved on to the next error because a lot of that turnover has already happened with your I think it's different Greg I disagree. I think there's those like the defining points of a dynasty But a dynasty is about longevity, especially in the side cap error where Patriots have been to x amount of straight afc championships and x amount of playoff appearances where

Every other franchise in the league is cyclical, right? Every other team and say, okay, you're good for two years and then you're shitty for three And then you came back and you're good for four years and then you're shitty for five Right, so did the cold Colds have different dynasties or one steve. I don't think the colds ever have a dynasty. Yeah, and you're lucky never Playoffs every year. Yeah, they made afc championships and shit And they want to You guys are see i'm with steve again, but you did like for four years, right? Right

So What's the what's the year? You know, you're getting into like these like arbitrary numbers of what games you got to win Define it. You know, but look look look no no no. No, he's right because look check this out You win three out of four to start the dynasty, right? Yeah, you have ten years that you don't win the super bowl, but you Make records by making a consecutive amount of afc championships and Um record amounts of super bowls like page. Yep. No, he didn't do that He's like every imaginable record. No, but i'm saying he all right, so how many afc champions?

But he sucked in the playoffs, right? Exactly. He was one and done He was one and done like nine or ten times in his career. He also won a super bowl Yeah, one what i'm saying and so one no, he went to see Listen guys, I said by us the standard is that they started three out of four three out of four a ton of straight afc championships and um super bowls that they've lost And then they won three more So that's sustained greatness. None of the teams that you're talking about outside of like pittsburgh in the 70s and like

You know the niners sustained anything close to that So if the if the pats all of a sudden went one and done a bunch of times in the middle, I would agree with you But I think that it's supposed to go like they didn't have bad years, you know, they did They were super bowl contender like ten straight years No, they were oh, yeah contender, but then they would go in the playoffs and lose The same with the patrons Not the first game not the first game every time maybe once against the ravens, you know, like throw them a bone But they weren't consistent like afc championship teams

I disagree Look it up. I'm looking at now Well, look up one what to find here No, look up his record year after year All right Since 2000 since we were starting this dynasty Colts have made the playoffs in 2000 2002 2003 45 winds seven eight nine

I don't care about making the playoffs Let's keep going Uh 12 13 14 18. So let's see, uh 2000 lost a wild card 2002 lost a wild card 2003. They lost the conference 2004 they lost the divisional 2005 divisional 2006. They won a Super Bowl 2007 they lost the divisional 2008 they lost wild card 2009 They made the Super Bowl but lost 2010 they lost a wild card. That's not a dynasty Well, 13 14 wild card division bare minimum success, Greg. Yeah

Wait We wait what what does everybody say when was uh Andy luck to Peyton? What year was that? when they just went like 2012 was one luck and so their their record after 2012 was Uh lost wild card in 2012 in this rookie season lost divisional lost conference in back-to-back back years and then A few years and nothing and then lost the divisional in 20 Yeah, is that a few years and nothing is what kills it, right? Okay. That's wait. Wait. Let me ask you

There are dines wait. Wait, Greg Do you do you think let's start with this? Do you think that the Colts have been a dynasty like in that era? Do you think that was a good definition? They are I told you that the Patriots won three out of four Super Bowls sustained massive success to get to championship level and then won three more What how clear can I get? Yeah, but there's an eight-year gap in the middle there Yeah, but they went to the AFC championship record amount of time Mike didn't win so what?

You want my my real take on the Patriots dynasty. Do you want my real take? I think that there are separate dynasties I don't think it's the same thing, but Hey, but but I do think that what they've done that run is More impressive than any other thing in sports that I've seen I agree having a back-to-back dynasty is more impressive Than having one long dynasty because you have a complete turnover of the team outside of like the coach and quarterback Right, then yeah, I agree. There's two separate dynasties, but in comparison to other teams

Um, I've never seen anything like it. So if we're if and a lot of people still consider the past dynasty So I'm going off of like what the the majority people think If the Patriots get a one or two seed this coming year We're back on yeah I think that's one something that's probably your your truest evaluation of a dynasty if they can sustain A top one or two seed in the playoffs Right, I can't agree with that And the Patriots have done that for a long time all their Super Bowl runs even if they'd lost it

We're on the top one or two seeds where the Like Because what the Pats have done is like It's it's never been done, right? So even we'll back at those nine or seems those stealer scenes. They didn't have like They weren't a fc championship game 12 years straight. Yeah, so by that standard no one is So there's the greatest dynasty in sports history, of course the greatest two dynasties Oh

Well, I guess what you make the argument that because it's the same people like you guys were saying It kind of connects the two because there wasn't a changing of the guard and the principal people So maybe that's why people view it as one long dynasty because there hasn't been turnover at the top. Maybe Uh, which team gets more wins this year bucks or Patriots? Oh, that's a good question Pats I think Patriots as well. It's off division The Patriots have the hardest schedule this year. They do

Oh That's a good, uh, that's a good point. Andy. Here's the other with the way that the nfl works like Last year winning percentage and a bunch of those teams are gonna regress and a bunch of teams are shitty. You're gonna be good this year That's true. But then what do you think about the flip side of that scenario where it's like, I know that this has been part of the narrative, but The pats have the hardest schedule theoretically they They have 13 and a half million dollars dead money from Brady another 5 million from Antonio brown What do you think about the fact that do you think it crossed Brady's mind that if he stiffed the Patriots in Belichick

It'd be a hole to get out of No You don't think you thought about it. No, I don't think he's vindictive like that. Oh, wow. He said that he would have a longer Career than Peyton and Peyton had a devastating neck injury. So if he's like that ruthless You don't think it crossed his mind. It's like fuck Belichick. That's not ruthless. That's just no Yeah, Mike, I think that's a personal issue I don't know. I think I think it definitely crossed his mind man How could you be the top of your game have that much of an ego where you you are aware of legacy and not think about that at least

I think you're overstating his ego Really? Because like if you're an ego, you're like, I want to be the highest paid player and no, no, no No, he could value legacy over money. That's the ego Yeah, but if he was all about ego, he would have taken the higher rate contract No, he wouldn't know he would take some people value wins over money. So if he knows Right, except that's still ego. He wants to win. He wants to be the best You know, you can't

What you gotta win as a team. You know, okay? Yeah, I know, but it still takes ego like ego can mean a lot of things Ego could be based on power. It could be based on admiration. It could be based on legacy. It could be based on money Yeah, just inherently that if you want wins more than stats that kind of speaks to that No, no, because that's the greatest stat He knows I could say that he's the smartest guy with an ego because he for some reason could see That trajectory more than anybody else and I don't understand how but he managed to to do that So, yeah, I don't I don't think it's a bad thing

I just think that his ego took him in a different direction than like pretty much any other player outside of like Michael Jordan or somebody like that So he's got the biggest ego Oh, that's probably Question if you guys figure Tom Brady's ego or his dick Well, didn't Connor reference that he was driftwood Tommy or something like that. Yes, he did So that is a good question and up for debate. I don't know Greg how how big is Tom Brady's hog? I mean, I think you know the answer to that question. It's it's bigger than Peyton Manning's. I think is the answer

It's quite substantial. I believe next question. What's bigger Tom Brady's hog or Peyton Manning's forehead? His hog Yeah, yeah, it's a close one Peyton Manning surpassed the five hadn't gone straight to the six head bud. Well, are we talking with or length? Oh Then I got to give it to the forehead. All right, so Moving yeah, can I throw out a question and it's gonna upset you guys In that case, no

Fuck you, but for the people that are leaving here. Hey, I'm sorry. I'm sorry For the people that are for the feet. Do I not I have to work on that It's a nervous condition that I have So For the people that are mad at Brady and think that, you know, he turned his back on the team and whatever What are your what's the worst moment that you uh, you have of him? Oh, that's a good question, Mike. Are you fucking kidding me? This this is the worst moment. Yeah. Yeah I

More sleep over his career up to now It's a good question I before this Yeah, I'm probably getting injured first week of 2008. He's done. Oh, yeah, but that's not like I mean like that is Based on something you didn't like that. He did Don't don't change the game around uh the MAGA hat in the locker. Oh, that's fair That is fair That's a good one. I forgot about that. He hasn't done a lot of like a lot of now that there's anything wrong with that

But well, it is funny that he was flaunting it Oh, I got it kissing his kid on the lips on that timers. Oh, yeah, that's a Just that book in general where he had like I have to drink enough water. You don't get summer See that's you guys are getting it. That's pretty fun. Yeah, my my worst moment is Uh, right before the undefeated season when somebody asked him. Oh, how many um, uh, You know, how many points you you'll you think that you'll put up or whatever and the guy said Some low number like two touchdowns and brady 17 17. Yes. You're talking about the 2007 Superbowl Yep, and he was and he was told that the

Giants Defense had said that they were going to hold the pages of 17 points. Yep And you like right some of that Well, his response was he laughed at it and he goes give us a little bit more credit than that I think he said we'll see it was his response. No, I thought then it's been manipulated throughout the years because I remember him I thought I saw it recently and he laughed. He said, oh, we'll see Okay, well, even if it's that right either way I I don't think he usually gives that

off So it's it's one of the more painful ones that I can remember just because I was like, wow, that's That's very confident in him and not characteristic and it it like ended up happening I thought Mike yours would have been the whole deflate gate thing Why I was banking on you because like the The press conference that he gave about it and how nonchalant he was I figured dude, I thought that was hilarious Yeah, the is definitely not one of the worst moments. I want to give you guys a stat that makes me sad If Tom Brady goes to the Buccaneers

because at the end of this season Tom Brady has since 2000. Well, I guess since 2001 He has 249 wins the starting quarterback The Tampa Bay Buccaneers Since their inception in 1976 They have 276 total wins

So if Tom Brady does not go to the Buccaneers, he could conceivably Catch the Buccaneers as a franchise in total wins. Yeah, they were the closest, right? uh of Of teams that aren't like expansion teams like uh, I think he has more wins than like the Houston Texans or the Ravens because they're a young team but Like from original teams from before he he came into the league. Yes Wow So that makes me sad. Yeah, he's never gonna he's never that's the one record you'll never have I guess

If he goes to the Buccaneers, he will never Yeah Right there, um Another question to you guys Maybe all right, um I heard that Trump was actually making calls to the NFL to to keep it open throughout the year since uh Through this uh coronavirus situation. Everything's just being shut down so there is a

Hopefully slight Chance or none at all that the NFL is delayed or something can happen where let's say It goes away completely, right? So let's say they don't play And then Brady doesn't have an opportunity to actually play with the Bucs Let's say he retires the year after whatever does that taint his legacy because Now obviously he didn't show what he could do on the field and he still made the decision to leave That hurts less

I don't know if there's any t-thing of his legacy. I don't know. No, but I mean how people might Oh, yeah, let me Let me rephrase the people that are angry if there are any that he left with that like how would that affect their mind You think would that yeah, I'll see here at Mike because then you could be like we're gonna just skip to all this Yep, exactly. That's what I mean And we knew that it was going to be no season. We're just retired and we would all been happy and we wrote a road off into the sunset Yeah, you're absolutely right. That's exactly what I was getting at. So yeah, wouldn't that kind of That would hurt me. Yeah me too. I think that's the issue too. Like what Greg is going as

All the way through this you had this idea of how this was going to end and It was this bell checking Brady riding off in the sunset together and they were both going to retire at the same time after winning a super bowl And setting all these records or whatever the fuck it was But it wasn't this You know, I don't know. I just never had that. Like I said at the beginning of this podcast like this is almost what I expected That's because you have no heart. Why? Whereas Greg and I were the romantics. Wait, what do you mean Greg and I and he has no heart? What does that mean?

What are you implying? It was pretty fucking clear. Well, I don't agree with your statement, but carry on. Well, I don't give a shit He's just a logical human being who's processing information as he gets it And I don't want to speak for him because he was speaking before you interrupted him Actually, you interrupted. I know I did go on classic But he's a bell checks always been ruthless like that. So like why would why would this be any different? Because it's brady

Yeah, like that's that's the why but like Brady's the reason for this That's not how bell checks as much as bell check is Because because bell check would have realized that hey none of this was possible without this. Yeah, this guy Yeah, yeah, none of this was possible. But what about the upcoming season? That's all he gives a shit about so like That's what makes him an asshole. Yeah. Yeah, but then do you believe that's also what makes him successful But if that's the case successful If that's the case, do you Then do you believe that he wanted to keep jimmy g because then that would that would fly in the face of that because

He's been in check by craft before if that's the case No, I think bell check looked at tom radians at tom brays a better quarterback than jimmy Wow He gives us a better chance to win which clearly he was right And he won a super bowl with it. Yeah, right. I mean, it was a great decision And it's come to this point where bell check looks at brady and says Uh, you're worth like this much. I think I would like to have you on the team, but I'm not about to like break the bank for it but the

passer at A fraction of the cost Yeah, but the problem with that is that that's basically bell check saying like oh, it's the system That is the reason for our success when I don't even buy that I do. I think tom brady is the reason for our success I've had this a bit a bunch and I've always said Bell check system will take anybody to the playoffs The browns didn't go anywhere. Did they you can put the last team up into the playoffs

the last browns team Don't want to get fired They moved Yeah You can put you can put anybody you can take any starting quarterback in the NFL You can put nick foals. You can put gardener minch you but anybody behind center in the Patriots and They'll get to the playoffs. You're you're right. He was special was in the Highest of stakes

And that canes the city game is probably the ultimate example, right? Three third and tens in a row. He was just absolutely nails. He was the one to get him over the hump, which you have to do To win a super bowl. Okay That's a good point. Why does it why doesn't it not give you a better chance to win this year, right? If you can if you can take a 43 year old Brady and put him out there Well, he was also hurt a lot more than he has in the past. So I don't know if he gives you the I think it was more like It was a cost benefit not like wait. I'm not going to pay him 30 million dollars a year for the next three years to do that It wasn't even hurt throughout the year. Whatever it is going to give him

right Yeah, he's been hurt more absurd on the money side That sacrifices the other team. We can't resign Slater. We can't recline McCordy Then you know, yeah, oh, yeah Slater's gonna play off games. Okay. Well, what about Brady had knee problems had elbow problems You think that a 20 something year old kid is gonna have those same problems? Maybe not No, you can't play that like I'm against you on that Brady's been hurt all last year really durable Through the last two years. He's been struggling towards the end of the season

It's a fact. I'm not saying that he was terrible. I'm just saying it's a fact Sure, we can all see the injuries that have hurt him But he's always been able to be available. I agree I mean, I don't know if stitum is You know gonna make it through the the season or anything. So I'm just saying I I know that Brady has been dealing with a few things recently And I'm also really is better than most quarterbacks of the pages have had it avoiding injury too though. Just look at green Yeah, yeah, we're all below when he was here. And I know so then after that

What's this fuck face? Brissette. Yeah Both got hurt within four weeks And like I said, I don't know what stitum would do and now obviously younger people have a little different mentality where they might You know be willing to preserve their career and you know sit a few games. I'm not sure So maybe it's a different mentality, right? Also to greg's point Bella check it

Without tom brady in 2008 did not make the playoffs Yeah, but you have to give that context Yeah, I'm defeated team from the year before. Yeah with the guy I guess he's just started Playing against the easiest schedule in the in the NFL too. He still went 11 and five in most years that makes the playoffs Yeah, but you know what it didn't because they didn't have the x-factor old tom boy All right, but like even like the browns like you're saying like I don't like that the narrative for him is that he sucked He was the last playoff coach with the browns. They moved

They basically canned him because uh, they had different plans And then that's why the whole jets thing happened He looks like an asshole again, but he avoided the jet situation because they were about to sell the team And he didn't want to get fired midseason or something So You want to talk about egos? I think bill bellichick has a massive ego. I don't think he does it all now. I'm just kidding Everybody you should have kept that good So just to stat check this um

The the browns have made the playoffs since they made it in 2002 But yeah, but they didn't check is the last person's last coach to win a playoff game right in 94 and what team do you be? That's correct. And is that what the marie's Hearst as a cornerback is I remember him in that game I believe so it was bill bellichick with team. I love them But um Yeah, and the reason that bell check didn't do well the next year was because The team was sold in the middle of the year and basically the team gave up around him because they knew they weren't going to be there And bell check

So he's not a leader of men Wow You know what we're sitting here debating. Oh my god is our 20 year dynasty gonna keep going and browns fans They're sitting there be like are we ever gonna win another playoff game since 94? That's that's a tough one that's bigger may feel doll. Maybe that's the answer Think about it though. Like I mean this point last year browns fans were like, fuck. Yeah, baker had a good season We just got obj Jarvis Landry

So if you want some perspective between the browns and the patriots uh, the browns between 2009 and 2017 Which is what how many years? Eight years eight nine seasons nine seasons They had 34 wins in nine seasons Patriots in 2003 and 2004

In two seasons had 34 wins Wow Yeah, those are like on the feet of street. That was super long, which I think is still the NFL record. Yeah 21 wins in a row. Yeah, that's what the best part about Brady is and like that's put it in context with this whole like coronavirus shutdown sports Is that like he gave you a reason to watch for 20 years All the way in February, you know what I'm saying like every week

It was a game That you were looking forward to because you knew the pats had a chance to do something special, you know Yeah, and that just from the entertainment value was 20 years of it No, yeah, that's amazing. Do you think anyone's going to burn brady jerseys? That would be ridiculous You'll be at least one douche in hard or something

I mean the social media now changes that so I'm sure somebody will do it just for the attention, but that's ridiculous Well, I would say that somebody would hold a Patriots like a brady burning Party, but you can't do that right now with the lockdown and everything right Do you think if I send my brady jerseys to tom, he'll sign it? No, jaddy. I'm ready. Well I'm buying a box for you right now. No, you're not. Yes. I am. No, I won't let you

Yeah, I thought you were a brady fan now you're giving them shit. What is your brady fan? I'm not bright a fucking Buckster is he that's why because you're you're you're an organizational guy What I'm both. Oh my goodness. Greg. Are you buying that jersey to burn it or what? Yeah Well, I'm getting the old school like Brian at least Greg stands by his statements and he is now Shitting on him for supporting brady. That's that's a turn. Yeah, welcome to the dark side, andy

I'm not sharing for supporting brady. I'm shitting him supporting the box Oh, the organization of the box interesting by a fucking old school brady jersey That's interesting. All right You could try and make this a thing, but it's not gonna be a thing No, it is a thing because I think you're leaning towards uh, steven my side now Do you think the Patriots pro shop is still gonna sell brady jerseys next year? No Yeah, I mean they gotta get rid of their inventory We're not gonna sell them the store though. They'll sell them online

Because everyone keeps giving me shit about my wicked old faded one and I keep telling them I'll buy a new one or new retires Do I buy one now? You can wait He hasn't retired yet. You don't even deserve one after what you've said today I think you I mean you guys are nuts, but at least you stuck to your guns andy's waffling. So I don't like that Greg is all I can support both at the same time Well, then why not buy a brady jersey and a patriots jersey?

Yeah, sit on one Yeah, she bought he should buy both All right, now we're getting to the heart of it. Now you're swaying back to their side after you've gotten a little scolding I'm not swaying anything I can support both tom brady and the patriots at the same time because yeah I'm a human being and you you boys are fucking children apparently. No, I I love tom brady wishing the best me too. You have not been paying attention I just think it's waffling at steve though who's been the biggest stand for brady for as long as i've known him then all of a sudden

All of a sudden you can't throw the date ball the fucking bucks are gonna suck with him like it's just unbelievable I'm just being logical. Oh, you went where was this logic like three months ago? I was logical then too. I'm always You just you already said you had a persona built up Around tom brady being a phone. I want to change my answer to the my least favorite tom brady moment Okay, okay My least favorite tom brady moment is the last pass of his career as a patriot Yeah, but everybody's making a big deal about that. Like what was he supposed to do is i'm the one yard line. I mean

Yeah, it just sucks. Yeah But that's a shitty way to end it and I know I happen to be there for it and the interception was in that end zone that I was I got to watch logan ryan celebrate directly in front of me In the rain So that's my worst moment. That's tough. My worst moment is that you didn't invite me to that game I did but you wouldn't do not you did not you didn't even ask you didn't think to ask I might fly out to visit you He asked me mike

I literally couldn't find anybody to go with me. Yeah, you didn't ask me You wouldn't like this hurt This hurts Before you move on brown's thing real quick Let's say for instance the brown family or the brown football team. No the football team Let's say the uh fair question. Let's say for instance, maybe brady gets antonio brown. Maybe he doesn't But you know, whatever he's doing this thing in uh for the box

And let's say balla check trades for obj What would how would you view that? I'm a rock hard over here mikey I don't know why I view everything in terms of like levels of like what would be funniest, but I think that would be point in the podcast I'm just think it's unraveling quickly. No. No. What would brady feel would that like add to his hatred or would he be okay with that? I mean, I think that's kind of funny It would fuel him

I agree Everything fuels him though. So definitely I don't know how much of a change When he when he sits down does he does he regret it at all? 20 years from now It depends on how well he does wherever he goes next true We should have a parade for him Joe montana regrets it apparently

Yeah, I'm surprised by that even though he he still he actually did okay Yeah, yeah, I took him to five in his last year Didn't they they went to the playoffs with him. Yeah, they did I think it was that wasn't it They lost to the uh the jim Harbaugh Colts Hmm, isn't that right? I mean, that's a that's a good uh, that's a good point Does he regret it at the end? I

I mean, he's not gonna regret it immediately. Obviously, but like yeah, I think he's right. I think it depends When do they build a statue of tom brady in picture place? No, just do it immediately. Who cares? Oh Do you do it after retires and if so, how long? No, just do it right now. Who cares? Greg right now Right now. Yeah, he's done. So you just So what does that statue look like? Uh, you know, he's like when he yells at the crowd like yeah, oh the let's go. Yeah That's pretty good. I was thinking of him standing over center pointing and yelling

It's not bad. I think that they should hire the person that did the first christianna rinaldo I don't think a lot of people will get that reference, but well look it up christianna rinaldo statue If you guys want to see something interesting, I would I would love one where he's head butting somebody Mike to go back to what you're saying. I think you could use the the uh, the sketch from the When he was in court the court sketch. That's great. Yeah, you could use that picture. That's a good point It's good reference. I got you But when you slide on the slide, do you see now one?

That's not a bad look too with the long the long hair brady. Yeah Looking like all right That was when he first started dating giselle, right? Yeah, you know when you got his hair plugs We'd top to do in bronze though You can do anything in bronze Steve you put your mind to it. That's true So Uh, I know greg wanted to try start a quiz on these podcasts. So I've come up with one As we're doing this

Can you name That I got two questions here. The first one is can you name the one team that brady? Has a losing record against Yeah, and there's patriots incorrect Uh He is four and three against the giants he is three and three against the panthers Broncos denver y'all have guests. I was gonna say denver. It is denver. Yeah

Does tamper played ever eight and nine against ember Tom brady's undefeated against one two three four five teams in his career in your name Falcon's kids falcons. Yes Redskins redskins. He is four and running into redskins apparently. Oh shit. I remember that game Yeah, that was the the redskins game was the last game they lost before they won 21 in a row Yeah, I was working at best buy then Yeah, they have lost to the browns. Where are they? They've lost the browns once and that was the game With uh, when um, what's his name was coaching outside kick another one that one

No, um The the guy from the Jets, uh, the star of spy gate Man genie. Yeah, we're in june's coach in the browns. They pulled pulled our shit on a trick plays apparently Uh, was welker kicked the field goal or action points in those games Hmm Um, they are one and one against the cardinals bears They are five and oh against the bears. Yes. So falcons and bears are two teams so far falcons are six and oh against In our C teams

Not a lot. Um, we watch them lose their hands We have seen them lose their hands this season. I missed that game What is it they are five and one against the rams Let us know one of these teams should be pretty fucking easy I'm talking about god damn night never mind should be Oh, shit the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They he is 4-0 against him. See, I didn't know where you're going to go with this

And I thought man, this is sinking real quick and then you turn it around Uh, the bills are the best, uh His best record against non undefeated teams. He has a 914 record against the bills. He is 32 and 3 Geez But there's two more teams he was undefeated against And they are both NFC teams they are teams they have played in the last two years Cowboys that is correct. They are five and oh against cowboys There's one more team it is a team where they have played a Super Bowl in their home stadium

Texans that's the only one they're nine and two against Texans Put us out of our misery, man The Minnesota Vikings they are five. Oh, that's out of the blue. Yeah, right You don't remember many of those wins, but They weren't memorable wins, but they're wins 32 and 3 against the bills dude, that's two full seasons worth It's a good old I think we've talked about this before where tom brady ranks in um

Yeah in in buffalo history in wins in buffalo Oh, he is it's sixth place Of all quarterbacks wins in buffalo Who do the uh bucks play in the aces here? The bucks didn't play the aces here shouldn't they play one team and like their similar rank No, that's how the asc works, didn't it? Yeah, yeah, that's that's just a conference thing All right, yeah, so that's everything on brady What happens when the team gets passed on to craft sun jonathan does it continue who knows

All right fair point. I think it's already happened. I think if you hear Robert Kraft Speak to the media these days My feeling is jonathan's already running the team interesting So all right the new big three jonathan josh and jared The three jays Triple j baby

Um, is there anything now as we're wrapping this up. I'm starting to feel a little sad admittedly So is there anything that you want to say or talk about before we uh, we wrap up that you want to get off your chest Or that would be therapeutic I I wish tom was from massachusetts Yeah, wouldn't that be sweet? Yeah, I never thought about that That was the only thing I could think of that would make like get a better story He even called it out in his like message to the fans like oh california boy or something like that

Yeah, I thought it was funny that you did that I would just to put it I would like to put out there that the national suicide prevention lifeline is 1-800-273-8255 Just in case this is hitting you harder than it is us the help is available You can tell I would just say that you know tom brady's bought so much joy to my life How could I not love him forever? You've been turning on him all night. It's unbelievable I still love him

Exactly. I mean he's given me uh so many moments as a You know college and high school kid like we talked about but there's a lot of bonding that I've done with my family with my dad I'm just watching games with him over the years watching them win. I mean That's sort of the easiest language that we have between us So that was a huge Um contribution by brady I mean he's even brought all of us together, right?

Oh good point. Yeah He's kept us together anyway Right. Yeah Pretty powerful for this son. This podcast wouldn't exist without tom brady Right. I think that's why Well, it would have existed if there was any quarterback that we picked up off the street because it's about the system and not the quarterback Well, I mean too some that Wouldn't it be cool and interesting if they got a new quarterback every two years and won as many super bowls anyway in this

Many games that would be interesting. Maybe that happens in the next 20 years. We'll see cam newton obj Dude, I can't believe you want to cam newton here. I'm pretty I'm pretty sure mike wants uh drew blood so to come back so he can Finish his hot takes about that I want could have been I mean, yeah, I If we really want to go down that because I think in the last episodes Um, you know what I mean make my sense But we don't know for sure if blood so would have sustained the magic that brady did over this time With these rules and if you play this long, we just don't know guys. Okay, michael

You keep referencing this last episode. You bring this up every three episodes. Oh, well For those that don't know Oh, they do could have been a They fucking know how you stand on this I just want cam newton come to the page hits. So when we record with bobby for the paid panthers game extra drama Yeah, that might be the next the next uh Episode we record is with our brother-in-law bobby who was a

Born and raised panthers fan You know how we're gonna isolate the background noise with those two little munchkins in the background That's up to him not us We'll see his take on cam. To be fair. We still have to deal with greg's background noise apparently because he can't forget I mean it is tough to plug in a usb microphone. So yeah I mean just go upside down right side up Really? Yeah, go fuck yourself buddy

What's that greg I can't hear you Tea guy Bro, I gave you the simplest thing you possibly buy I gotta go All right I think this is good cathartic for some Speak for yourself. You hurt my feelings andy, but that's fine. I don't mind. Uh, I am still

In the exact same place as I was before this. I thought I would get some some help from it, but I didn't so Thanks for that guys I feel I feel just as depressed as I did So hopefully the listeners aren't feeling the same way. I'm assuming we'll release this All right, that's some good background stuff going on. Yeah, thanks Kelly Yeah, cool. This is great Everybody go buy a uh a brady bucks jersey And then burn it no andy said everybody buy it

So I said nothing of the sort you said buy one of each Oh Uh, if you can buy a tom brady michigan jersey because that way you're hardcore either way And I like that And on that I think we can end this here See you all Hopefully in a better mood next week Probably not

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