PBD Podcast - California Wildfires, Gulf of America, Zuckerberg Kills Meta Fact-Checking | PBD Podcast | Ep. 530

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover Donald Trump's plan to re-name the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America, Mark Zuckerberg ends Meta's fact-checking, LA county is ...on fire as California wildfires rage, and Joe Biden has BIG news! 👕2025 INAUGURAL MERCH: https://bit.ly/4fSrX6W 🧢 NEW BOGO VT HATS: https://bit.ly/3Yyc3ZS 👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4 📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:02:11 We want to help. Hang tight for that. Obviously we have a lot of things to talk about with California. The videos, we've seen them. James Woods, Whitney Cummings, we've seen a bunch of different things that's going on. The mayor and so many people manacked me. My pastor texted me. I texted him, checking on him,
Starting point is 00:02:26 texted me last night, late, two o'clock in the morning, this morning, giving me an update on what's going on. I wanna give you an update on what's going on with how many people are being affected by the homeowners insurance of California. Like, that's the real issue that people are not even talking about, which is maybe the scariest thing of what's happening. Then Adam Corolla said something about permits that I think maybe the scariest thing of what's happening then
Starting point is 00:02:45 Adam Carolla said something about permits that I think is the best thing I think that's gonna be the biggest civil war in California coming very soon it's gonna be very nasty for them the next few years but in the meantime five Rob is the number updated as of this morning it's still five dead two thousand buildings destroyed five dead two thousand,000 buildings destroyed. Five dead, 2,000 buildings destroyed. Malibu looks like a movie. It doesn't even make any sense when you watch these videos. And zero containment in Malibu at this hour.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Zero containment, and water was apparently down for God knows how many hours based on what a lot of people are talking about, but we'll get to that. A few stories to go through. Obviously, we'll address the fire. We will talk about the Greenland conversation with what the president's doing, his son going over there to Greenland with Charlie Kirk, and then what the Fed said about Greenland, comparing it to Louisiana, which was very interesting. And then President Trump came out and called the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of America.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And the president of Mexico responded. You have to hear what she said and then we can even, you know, obviously have a good conversation about it. Trump warns Hamas all hell will break out if it doesn't release hostages before he takes office. So he's letting them know directly for them to respond or else. Tattoo artist Sparks Outrich for inking a 9-year-old girl who asked for a portrait of Trump but got an American flag instead.
Starting point is 00:04:08 A 9-year-old girl got a tattoo. I don't know how you feel about it. I want your thoughts. I want us to talk about this. We will here, obviously. Harris announced ruling removing billions in medical debt from credit reports. That's very important. Tom said something about this yesterday. That is a very, very good point.
Starting point is 00:04:27 We'll address that here in a minute. Meta ends fact checking program as Zuck vows to restore free expression on Facebook, Instagram. Vinny's got some thoughts on that. Kevin O'Leary says he's nearing a deal to buy TikTok as ban looms and here's what we know, that's from Forbes, we'll talk about that. Sonny Hostin has had a rough last couple months. He's had to read legal letters, apologies, and she looks so polished, lawyer, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:54 However, Sonny Hostin's husband accused of committing federal insurance fraud in lawsuit. So we'll address that. Sean, he's a little bit pissed off, folks. It's very important you know about this. He's throwing tantrums over attention. Accused UnitedHealthcare CEO killer Luigi Mangione receives behind bars on his shit list, meaning he's upset that he has a better place than Diddy does. U.S. corporate bankruptcy is at 14-year high as interest rates take toll.
Starting point is 00:05:22 California fast food restaurant warned that hiking $20 minimum wage will cripple them. By the way, this isn't people just complaining. They're actually finally coming together and saying, this is not going to work. What do you want to do? We have to raise the prices and it's like 600 and something restaurants that came together. We'll talk about that here in a minute. Phone call make Gen Z's nervous. That's a real story, New York Post.
Starting point is 00:05:45 A new college course aims to help them conquer their fears. It sounds like a joke. I mean, I understand if you said average salesperson is afraid of making phone calls. Got it. Gen Z getting phone calls they're afraid? If we have time, we may talk about it. This next one here, this is Adam's favorite story. Can 35 roommates cure loneliness? This whole living housing firm thinks so. Okay, and this is a WAPO story, if we get a chance,
Starting point is 00:06:15 at the end we'll talk about it. Then there's a bunch of other stories here that we'll get into that is on the addendum. Denise Richards and her husband, Mark Zuckerberg's evolution of politics, what Gavin Newsom, what Trump called Gavin Newsom, the reaction back and forth, obviously we'll go through that, and a few other stories that we got here.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Having said that, let me tell you why today's a special day and what we just decided 30 minutes ago to do. This morning, we're announcing limited edition hats because inauguration is on the 20th, not this Monday, but it's the following Monday. These hats are hats that we've been working on having for a while. It's the 4547 Future Looks Bright hat with the American flag on the side and the VT logo on the side and it's numbered.
Starting point is 00:07:00 If you look at the inside, the limited edition ones are the only ones where you see Future Looks Bright everywhere on the inside, and they're numbered one out of 50. These are going to go for 99. These will go in no time and they'll sell on eBay. We see them all the time for $500,000, $2,000. Some of them sell for $3,000. This will go in no time, the 250. Numbered in no time.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Now there's matching shirts that comes with this, with 4547, Future Looks Bright, with the American flag on the back, with Vitaiment. Rob has the one with white 4547 on it, if the camera can zoom in on Rob. Vinny's got the one with the gray, if you can put this over there, Vinny, with you, and he's got the sweater. So we have the shirt, the sweater, and then there's additional, these are the numbered ones, then we have these additional ones, that's 4547, red, white, and blue. This is not a lot of supply.
Starting point is 00:07:54 But here's what we're doing. The shirts are also here with it. For those of you that are proud that this victory took place, and you supported him, and you believe the future looks bright, and you like all these challenges he's putting out there with folks reacting saying, wait a minute, we should call Gulf of Mexico, Gulf of America? Yes. What's going on with Greenland? All these policies coming up with if you support him and you support value attainment, you
Starting point is 00:08:18 may want to go get the skier, and anything you purchase today, we just made this announcement 30 minutes ago, I had a call with our VP of Finance, Tom and Chris from March, 100% of all purchases, guys, we're going to have probably one of the biggest, it's going to be the biggest day of 2025 in purchases today because we've been working to launch these hats in a long time, the 4547. 100% of purchases made all day today 24 hours will go to families that are being affected by the fires in California by the way We're not giving the money to a charity and then hey here do whatever you want to do with it We want families that are being affected since somebody your mother lost out I'm getting stories that are coming in right now with
Starting point is 00:09:04 It just doesn't make sense what's going on there. The worst fire they've had ever in Southern California. People are being decimated, devastated. Stories. People that build houses that have been living there for 20, 30, 40 years, generationally living in palaces, are being affected by it. But I'm talking average day-to-day families. Folks that are affected.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Send us a story, Monek, whatever other way you want to get a-day families, folks that are affected, send us a story, Monek, whatever other way you want to get a hold of us. If there are stories that we want directly, hearing those testimonies, whatever we sell today, 100% is going to families affected by the fire in California. So if you watch Value Tim, you watch PBD Podcast, you're a fan of this, whatever you purchase, you're not just purchasing that. And I'm not saying profits, 100% of revenue today from merch. Not just profit, that could be a very big number.
Starting point is 00:09:50 100% of revenue is going to go to families in California. Support the cause. I lived there for 24 years of my life. Everywhere I've lived, I've never lived in a place more than California. It's a very special place for me. I have some of my favorite people in the world that live over there. Some of my favorite memories over there. I got married in California too.
Starting point is 00:10:06 My boys were born in California. Tom and I met in California. My wife and I met in California. Relationships. All of those memories. I want to make sure we do our part to support those in California. Thank you for your support. Having said that, let's get right into the story Rob, with California.
Starting point is 00:10:22 So story comes out and we talked about this I think maybe last week, if not this Tuesday. Strong winds in California. Possibly deadly winds. Rob, if you can pull this up, story comes out saying deadly winds in California. I'm reading it, deadly winds in California. What do you mean deadly winds in California? This was about a week ago when it said deadly winds in California. The story was all over the place.
Starting point is 00:10:47 This is not from two hours ago. This is from a week ago when the story came out. It's fine Rob. So if the story comes out about a week ago, deadly winds, four or five days ago, deadly winds, deadly winds, deadly winds. I'm like okay, this is not good because anytime you hear deadly winds and you combine it with fire then you have a messy situation that's going on. And then you start seeing the videos.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And then one by one by one, you're like, wait a minute, this is getting worse and worse and worse. And then you hear stories about California, where's the story Rob that says the worst in 16 years? There's one story that says the worst, not in 16 years, ever. Yeah, there is one story that says specifically, let me see this one here. Are all the fire stories in the addendum?
Starting point is 00:11:32 It's on the first page of the addendum, Pat. Yeah, it says the worst... Page four, Pacific Palisades fire burns into the history books. Pacific Palisades fire burns into the history books as most destructive blaze in the history of LA with 16,000 acres reduced to rubble. Rob, if you can find a clip to show what's going on, there's a ton of them to rubble. So Pacific Palisades Fire fueled by 100 miles per hour, Santa Ana winds, became LA's most destructive blaze within 36 hours, scorching nearly 16,000 acres
Starting point is 00:12:06 and destroying over 1,100 structures, entire neighborhoods including celebrity homes and landmark-like palisades, high school and Sunset Boulevard were reduced to ash. Heroin footage showing entire blocks reduced to little more than building foundations resembling something out of a post-apocalyptic movie. The Inferno displaced 70,000 residents including celebrities like Anthony Hopkins, Billy Crystal, John Goodman, Mandy Moore whose homes were obliterated, Paris Hilton Express being heartbroken beyond words as her Malibu vacation home burned, Ben Affleck sought refuge at Jennifer Garner's house, while Adam Brody
Starting point is 00:12:45 and Leighton Meester, $6.5 million property was destroyed, Chet Hanks mourned the loss of his childhood home, urging pray for the Palisades. And by the way, look at that video right there. That doesn't make any sense. It looks like literal Armageddon. No, that doesn't make any sense. That looks like a movie. This is insane.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Okay, that looks like a movie. For people who have never seen it, this is what a California wildfire looks like with the wind. You know, if you've ever started a campfire and you blow on a few embers to start a campfire, 70 mile an hour winds and dry, dry January, that's what you get. Rob, can you go on some of the streets of Malibu, showing what that was look like, and maybe even if you can go to James Woods' clip, which I posted on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:13:32 If you wanna go to, just go to my personal account and you'll see James Woods. Yeah, if you go there, if you go up, I think there's a second one right there, on CNN by the way, okay? He's speaking, and I'll just, again, James Woods, CNN by the way. Okay, he's speaking and I'll just again, James Woods, one of the greatest actors of all time, incredible work that he's done.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Somebody that's been living in California his entire life loves the state. Watch this clip here, go for it. I'm 77 years old, man. I can't walk up these hills. It's like Mount Everest there. It's like, you know, pretty steep. So, you know, it's just, you,
Starting point is 00:14:06 I posted this on X, but but Sarah was on with her eight year old niece last night. She came out. I'm sorry. Crying. One day you're swimming in the pool and the next day it's all gone. But she came out with her little yeti piggy bank for us to rebuild our house. Oh my gosh. James Woods, we all hope that you will be able to rebuild your house, maybe starting with that little yeti piggy bank. And we're just glad that you're okay. He's in a hotel by the way. I'm sorry, I'm usually... Yeah, no, I mean, this is real and it's raw.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I thought I would be stronger than this. You don't need, you know what? Strength is not measured by whether, you know, you hold in crying or not. Strength is what you are doing now and helping your neighbors and shining a light on the great, amazing work of all those firefighters and emergency crews out there.
Starting point is 00:15:10 You have so much strength and we appreciate you coming on to reflect what so many others, just like you, are experiencing in that raw emotion right now. We wish you the best, you and your wife, as you rebuild your lives. So many people are doing that right now and trying to process what's going on. So James, and also keep us posted on your 94 year old neighbor and everything going there. We're gonna continue to talk and we wish you the best. He's okay. They found him. He's in the hospital. He's okay. Yeah, I just worry anybody knows where Robert Trink teller is, you know, call me. Let me know. All right. That's important message. And also there's this app that's really important.
Starting point is 00:15:45 So Tom, you're a Californian native. You live there, I don't know what part of your life, but I think the majority of your life you lived in California. I was born out there. Yeah, you were born out there. So when you see this yourself, I mean, obviously we're going to go through a bunch of different angles of what's going on here. How do you process this?
Starting point is 00:16:00 Get groceries delivered across the GTA from real Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC Optimum Points. Visit superstore.ca to get started. I kind of feel like James Wood a little bit. I remember getting my MBA at Pepperdine and I would go down to PCH, and that's Las Virginies and PCH, and then drive south through Malibu. And I saw on the cover of the Wall Street Journal a fire chief narrating for the Wall Street Journal reporter about what had happened. And there was this place called Alice's Restaurant.
Starting point is 00:16:42 It was out on the pier. It changed hands hands over time but everybody knew where that was the Malibu Pier Alice's and the moon shadows and I was just Looking at all that and I said wait, I remember that I remember that I remember that whole strip of houses there I remember this and then the gap then you get down to downtown Malibu where the City Hall is and then you go further And you're all the way down to Gladstones and Sunset and I saw this and it was driving it's like I've driven that so many times and it's all gone you could see from PCH to the ocean for a mile and a half and there's just what's left of phone poles chimneys and that was shocking then I saw you know you have the alphabet streets and you have the that are up in Palisades. I remember going up there to
Starting point is 00:17:32 see friends and stuff that had done well and bought a place up there and I'm looking at these streets and I'm like I can't believe this this is all gone. Everything above the the Brentwood curve you know you would take sunset down and it's like this big curve through Brentwood and then I look up there and I'm like, wow. And then you start to see things about hydrants running dry. And then you would see things about the insurance, those side stories that were on there. Where you would take my eyes last night off of the fire stories for a little bit and look at these, you know, the stories that were accompanying and then seeing Karen Bass was coming back and not not talking to
Starting point is 00:18:08 the media and seeing that the budget cuts that had helped come for the fire department and I started to get really angry and I see five people died and I said that's tragedy but oh my gosh I'm so glad neighbors are getting people out and that number is not higher when you see all that up there and you see how the wildfires have affected San Diego and and the telegraph fire and all the things that happened over the last Six years I was just I was really overcome and Because I remember all of it And then I see and that's just Malibu and that's what I know about
Starting point is 00:18:38 But the Alta Dina fire above Pasadena is actually I think gonna be worse in terms of number of homes. Can you pull up a map of what areas are affected that was the one by the way but can you pull up the map yeah areas affected by fire in California there's a map that actually shows it if you got it. Keep going that's the art there right to stop look at that Malibu fire now look above Pasadena that's the Eton fire but that's all to Dena above Pasadena. Those neighborhoods up there, the houses are close together. They're not giant, you know, multi-million dollar things
Starting point is 00:19:13 that you have in Malibu. Those houses are close to each other. So the number of residents, look at the size of that. That's three times the size of the city of Pasadena up there. It's horrifying. And the 101- Dr. E.J. Grinada Hills, by the way, Tom.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Grinada Hills is being evacuated. People who live in Grinada Hills are being evacuated. People who live in Glendale, Pasadena, they're messaging me saying, Pat, we don't know what's going to be happening right now. Some people are being asked to leave and go stay at hotels. This is not just one fire. This is multiple going at the same time because of the strong winds that they're experiencing. And Rob, if you can go a little bit lower to expand on the map of Palisades.
Starting point is 00:19:52 So look at how wide that is. Santa Monica's right there to the right. I don't know how much of it's gone to Santa Monica. They're saying the wind is going to slow down by Friday. Which is still a long time. That's a long time. And it's zero contained in Malibu. They can't stop it. It's not stopping. And my brother, my mother, my sister, the whole family, they're like, soggist, and they're warning because
Starting point is 00:20:17 the winds aren't stopping, and that the power lines, it takes one cigarette, one cigarette onto the thing, one power line causing an electric fire. It's not good. It's really not good. They're all packed, ready to go. There's a very famous street called Topanga Canyon, and you can see it right there on the left side of the map.
Starting point is 00:20:35 It goes all the way down, and then you can see it at the top. It wiggles and it goes out to the Woodland Hills, West Hills, Calabasas area. This fire is across Topangaanky Canyon and if you go in that area Malibu, the next stop there is Pepperdine University and literally the downtown Malibu, core Malibu. This is so horrifying. So that's this. That's this that's taking place. Now, meanwhile, the governor of the state is a guy named Governor Newsom. We speak about him a lot, right, because of the state of California. Trump just tweeted out, I think nine hours ago, ten hours ago on Truth Social,
Starting point is 00:21:10 asking him to step down, okay? Asking him to step down. I believe if you just go up on Twitter and you type, you should see it. There's a tweet all over the place saying that he may be needing to step down. Is that the one? Yeah, there you go. One of the best and most beautiful parts of the United States and America is burning down to the ground. It's ashes and Gavin Newsom should resign. This is all his fault. Resign.
Starting point is 00:21:32 By the way, then you have Zach Levi, the actor from Shazam, who was the actor playing Kirk Warner. He's been in a lot of different movies. Phenomenal actor. He goes out there and he says, do we not do an investigation on this? Don't we find out and see what's going on with this here? I mean, some people have responsibilities on what's going on here. What happened here?
Starting point is 00:21:53 How do you get here? Then there's a clip of Trump from 2018 standing right next to Newsom telling him of how this in Denmark, they're able to prevent this from happening. Rob, if you can play this clip, go for it. This is cleaned out and protected. We've got to take care of the floors. You know, the floors of the forests, very important. You look at other countries where they do it differently and it's a whole different
Starting point is 00:22:20 story. I was with the president of Finland and he said we have a much different, we're a forest nation. He called it a forest nation and they spent a lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things and they don't have any problem and what it is it's a very small problem. So I know everybody's looking at that to that end and it's gonna work out. So that's how many years ago Rob? That's I think from 2018 if I'm not mistaken. Okay, then bring the clip from yesterday, Newsome in tears.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I retweeted it as a future. If you have it, great. It's easier. Did he actually cry? Oh, you should see this here. This is the clip of Anderson Cooper, Rob? Yep. Okay, go ahead and play this clip.
Starting point is 00:23:02 We're in the public safety phase. I hate to even ask this question but the president elect shows to uh... attack you going to you for this uh... uh... one can even respond to it and it's uh... if people are literally fleeing people lost their lives why don't it's uh... lost their schools
Starting point is 00:23:21 families completely torn asunder churches burned down. This guy wanted to politicize it. I have a lot of thoughts and I know what I want to say. I won't. I stood next to a president of the United States of America today and I was proud to be with Joe Biden and he had the backs of every single person in this community. He didn't play politics, didn't try to divide any of us.
Starting point is 00:23:43 So if you can pull up the clip of Trump, what he said about Newsome yesterday while he's being asked about it, I don't know if you have that or not. But here's the point. While this is taking place, this is where the part about DeSantis that I love, he may not be the best marketer,
Starting point is 00:24:01 he may not be a guy that even likes to be around a lot of people, where he just wants to be with his family and his kids. He doesn't want to be out there doing the shaking hands and all that other stuff. But oh my God, that guy gets shit done, right? DeSantis. So DeSantis' team offers help to California. How can we help? But I want you to think about this, folks. So this is the part that irritates me the most with Newsome. So can you tell me what state in America is known for having the best startup founders? What state, Tom, in America has the most startup founders that build the most billion dollar companies that's a startup?
Starting point is 00:24:37 Tom Hanks Silicon Valley And it's not even close? Tom Hanks Not even close. A little bit in Austin, a little bit in Boston, a little bit in New York, California. So what do you need? What level of thinking do you need for that? What's the one skill set you need to build a billion dollar company? You sit in a room with two or three people and you say, here's a problem, how are they
Starting point is 00:24:54 fixing it today? How can we do it better? Vision, creativity, innovation. Period. Okay. And problem solving skills. And guess what? By the way, the one thing you have to give credit to, Trump, I was thinking about this
Starting point is 00:25:04 last night, the job of a president is to bring around people who are smarter than you in areas that you don't have topics on. Who did Trump bring around him? Vivek, Musk, Tulsi, RFK, all these people that maybe in certain areas they know more than you do, right? That is the reflection of a great leader. Newsome has access to all these people. Who's smarter than you sitting around trying to fix this problem right now in the state
Starting point is 00:25:26 of California? Who? Who have you brought in? FYI. Do you know, Rob, if you Google the following thing here? Google what percentage of fires in California are manmade. And watch what PBS says. What percentage of fires in California are manmade?
Starting point is 00:25:43 Look at the number all the way at the top, Rob. Just go all the way to the top. Zoom in. Look at that right there. CalMatters.org. Whether purposeful, reckless, or simply careless, people are responsible for 95% of California's wildfires. That's from six months ago. Let me explain to you what this means. A hurricane, is it man-made? No, it's called a natural disaster. So Florida deals with hurricanes that are not manmade, for those of you guys that go into some of the thinking, stay with me here, but it's a natural disaster, comes and hits it and boom, twice, Tampa.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Tampa got hit twice in the span of a week and a half, two weeks, right? The Sanctus can't sit there and be like, well, it's laws we've got to create against the water and Mother Nature. Stop it. Stop it, Mother Nature. But Newsom, 95% of these fires are man-made. 95%. How much of this can be prevented?
Starting point is 00:26:40 You're on the flipping coast. You're on the coast. What do you have access to? Smartest brains, you have the water, and you hear a video that they're talking about the fish, these small little fish that they wanna save. Do you have that video there that they're so proud to save the fish and they're using the water that,
Starting point is 00:26:57 not that one Rob, cause that's one with Rogan from two months ago. There's one with, that he's talking about fish and he's standing right next to him. You just put Newsome Fish, California. Newsome Fish, California. And he's standing with a group of people and they're celebrating, I think it's that one right there to your left. Is that just a picture or video? That's just a photo. I'll find the video. So while this is happening, while all this stuff is going on, this is one part of it,
Starting point is 00:27:24 with Newsome. Adam, you're seeing a story like this in California. You're seeing the stuff with Florida getting hit by hurricanes, Florida's getting hit by all this stuff, and then you see California fires, Newsome, how do you process this? I'm just so grateful that I am born and raised and live in Florida at this point. I mean leadership matters, And policies, as you always say, PBD, bad policies have consequences. You've lived in California 24 years, 24 years, Vinny, you live there a decade, 15 years, okay, Tom, I live there over 40 years, okay,
Starting point is 00:27:57 40 years. All right. I used to go to LA every summer. I remember the first time I went back to LA during in COVID with you 2020. There people who come at don't don't walk around in Venice. Don't don't even do it. Why what's wrong homeless? It's crime everything what okay, didn't we go to Venice that we did we did but and then We went to go see our friend Tom out there as well different time, but I used to go to LA every summer It's so funny. I I The last time that I was there not with you 2022 my buddy who born and raised in Miami Bhakti he said I'm living in California. I don't like the city life. I moved to this cool little area called Topanga Canyon
Starting point is 00:28:37 Yep, and he's like you listen. There's no uber up here. So best of luck. Oh my god. Let me figure it out I go up to his place He's living in a yurt. Do you know what a yurt is? Now Google your it's like you'll see it's just he's just kind of like this dude That is very artistic wants to be away from the world There it is right there living in something like this just kind of sort of like lives on his own Do you have this is an artistic dude? He's doing his thing. I Text him dude. How are you? He's like, oh my entire life burnt down and
Starting point is 00:29:10 everything's gone and Every single one of my neighbors and we went through the list of all the celebrities houses that burnt down What it was James Woods and whatever, you know, Whitney Cummings the list goes on For every one celebrity. There's a thousand people that are now homeless. Speaking of homeless, how much money did Gavin Newsom unaccount for? $24 billion. $24 billion gone. And apparently, the mayor of LA, Karen Bass, who apparently was in Ghana-
Starting point is 00:29:43 Doing what? Doing what? Doing what? of LA Karen Bass who apparently was in Ghana doing what doing what doing what apparently she cut the firefighting budget this beautiful person right here watch what she says here it's incredible one of the best speeches I've ever heard in my life she's she cut the LA budget the fire budget by 20 million bucks 20 million bucks and then the LA Fire Chief just last week not to interrupt you sorry I'm sorry you want to serve something that was just last week. Not to interrupt you. I'm sorry to interrupt you on a serious subject. That was just last week. Last week? Amazing. Play this clip. Yeah. Imagine, look
Starting point is 00:30:10 what she has to say here. Incredible. Inspirational. Watch this. Do you owe citizens an apology for being absent while their homes were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire department budget by millions of dollars, Madam Mayor? Look at her go. That's your leadership, California. That's your leadership, LA That's your leadership LA. Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today? Elon Musk says that you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position? What do you have to say to your constituency?
Starting point is 00:30:37 What do you have to say to your people? Madam Mayor, have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today who are dealing with this disaster? Oh, this one's a good one right here, watch. She just got off got off the airplane which is wild I don't know how he's in there. Right Tom? This is her at the airport. Oh shut up to him for doing his job. Oh I love it.
Starting point is 00:30:52 He does, she doesn't even. Do you think I should have been visiting and all this was unfolding? Guys we can't hear you guys are talking back up a little bit I can't hear what he's asking. He's just like what the hell do you have to say? Go back a little bit. She has nothing to say. Not that long go a little bit further down further down further down when she's asking about Ghana right there okay what the hell do you have to say? Go back a little bit. She has nothing to say. Not that long. Go a little bit further down, further down, further down when she's asking about Ghana. Right there. Okay, play this and then we'll stop
Starting point is 00:31:08 it. Go ahead. No apology for them. Do you think you should have been visiting Ghana while this was unfolding back home? You can pause it right there. Let me ask you. Did she leave after the fire? No, she was there. Or was she in Ghana? She flew there. Wait, let me ask you. Did she leave after the fire? No, she was there. Or was she in Ghana? She flew back. No, no, that's not what I'm asking. What I'm asking is, was she, fire happened then she left?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Or she was there, then she flew back because the fire? Correct. But do you know why, what is she doing about something? She left town on Saturday, so just five days ago, six days ago. I want to see what her first speech is going to be. That the fire was going to be happening. When did we know warnings about things that's going to happen in LA? Look up Santa Anna Wind Warnings.
Starting point is 00:31:57 By the way, while you're looking this up, did you see who the LA Fire Chief is? Yeah, LGBTQ, that's all she is. I know we throw around, oh, it's a di harrid. It's a di are literally This person right here Crowley she became the first lesbian woman. Did you see what Alex Jones had to say? He's like, I don't care if you can eat Do your job? Inspired she took time out of her already busy schedule to tell us about her vision for the department's future one that includes a three-year
Starting point is 00:32:27 strategic plan to increase diversity. People ask me, well what number are you looking for? I say I'm not looking for a number, it's never enough. Out of 3,300 city firefighters, only 115 are women right now. She's already looking at ways to change that. She's quick to point out that doing so has a greater purpose, attracting the best and brightest for the job. They feel included, they feel valued, and they feel part of a cohesive team. The chief also checks another box. Which is way more important than saving lives and preventing fires. You're the mayor of LA, you are in Ghana to attend the inauguration of President John Dramani Mahama. Why? Why are Californians paying for that? It's like unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Whenever Gavin Newsom or any of these Democrat leftists say, don't politicize it, that's code for don't criticize our terrible decisions, okay? Let's talk about California. CAL FIRE, the state's firefighting agency, has spent over $30 billion, it's funny that we just throw that word around now, $30 billion on battling and preventing wildfires since 2017. That's about $750 per California resident. Their budget has gone 72% in that
Starting point is 00:33:37 time yet despite all that spending, what do we have to show for it? A mismanagement with water and the poor results. And then Gavin Newsom's handling of wildfire. Rob, I sent you this article. In 2021, Cap Radio exposed that Gavin Newsom, look at the headline of it Rob, misled the public about his efforts claiming that the project covered 90,000 acres. The state's own data showed that it was only 11,399. And where's the rest of that money going? His priorities are where they should be okay billions to fight homelessness like Adam said and it's disappeared into a black hole and then he's busy campaigning for Joe Biden. He's doing like diversity of no IDs illegals and then if you think about it Californians had a chance you guys had a chance to get
Starting point is 00:34:21 his ass out with Larry Elder okay and it's I'm curious to ask you guys, Pat. And it wasn't even close, but... No, like, what is it going to take? Oh, it's coming. Because now it's affecting... It's in the hills of like... And I'm... God, my heart goes out to everybody, but not...
Starting point is 00:34:37 Nobody cares when it's the regular person, Pat. Nobody cares when it's homeless. Now it's starting to hit the people that are up in the hills. When do you think that that's gonna happen? When you say it's coming? I want to know what you mean by that, please Yeah, I got you. So and Tom I'm sure you got a lot of stuff to say about this as well before I give you My answer Rob. Can you pull up that one story about what Gavin Newsom does with the water and a fish? I want to I want to finish this first before we go to the next segment That has to do probably for me on how changes come in to California Rob and the fish. I want to finish this first before we go to the next segment that has
Starting point is 00:35:05 to do probably for me on how changes come in California, Rob. Play the clip of Newsom talking about the fish. You just showed me the video on text. You have it somewhere around there. If you can just find that clip and show it. Yeah, it should be somewhere right there. Is this the one about fish and what they did? Yes, the dams. Okay, the dams. That's right. Watch this here. Go for it. Governor Kate Brown, Governor Gavin Newsom, U.S. Secretary of Interior Deb Haaland and tribal leaders all coming together to celebrate the world's largest
Starting point is 00:35:33 dam removal along the Klamath River Thursday. The groups meeting at Iron Gate Fish Hatchery in Hornbrook. Last month, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission issued the final approval of the historic plan to remove four dams on the Klamath River in California and Oregon. The decision is a culmination of years of work on the project's licensee, Pacific Corps, Pacific Power's parent company, on the parts of Oregon and California and several state and local agencies, along with several tribes. The folks out there that exercised your leadership every single day, that dialectic that we had throughout this process, where you expected and demanded more, you expressed that at times and sometimes it was uncomfortable. Other times it was absolutely
Starting point is 00:36:15 justifiable. I just want to- You can pause this right here. This is in the clip. It's the other clip you had at the top. That's the fish, Rob, the fish. Yeah, go for it, watch this. Watch this damn removal project in US history and one of the most significant, if not the most significant water restoration projects, bringing back salmon and steelhead into this basin. This project could not have happened with extraordinary partnerships with tribal nations. Of course our partners in the north and the north.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Pause it and go to the article that was sent about the 50% of state water. 55% of state water was just sent your way. Is this one? Okay, so watch this. Gavin Newsom, still agitating for urban water restrictions while ignoring 50% of states water sent to the Pacific. California reservoirs were designed to provide a steady five-year supply for all users and were filled up to the top in June of 2019.
Starting point is 00:37:17 He said, nah, we have to take care of fish. That's what we have to do. And by the way, some of the rumors came out about the fact that water wasn't there, not enough firefighters to fight the fires. Caruso said it, Pat. Caruso was on, called in, and goes, people, the fire department was showing up and they're like, there's no water in the, there's no water in the fire hydrants. Like, what the hell are we talking about? And where's the accountability going to be? What's his name was right? The actor's right. James Woods?
Starting point is 00:37:44 Because we're going to jump onto the next disaster whenever it comes. Who's going to hold this guy accountable? Is this the one that Crusoe says there's no water? Is this it, Robbie? Yeah, there's a great clip because they go, I'm going to find it, but they go from that phone call to the, and the news reporter says, well, we haven't seen any evidence that there is a lack of access to water. Then they go straight to a field reporter who goes, they have no water.
Starting point is 00:38:04 There's no water. Rob, I don't know if you can just do this real quick. Pull up a map of access to water, then they go straight to a field reporter who goes, they have no water. There's no water. What Rob? I don't know if you can just do this real quick. Pull up a map of the United States. If you don't mind, Rob, here, let's all you're doing. I can only do one thing. Yeah, I definitely want to see that. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Find the Caruso clip if you can. I mean, I see stuff here on this is perspective to people in America who don't know about this stuff Excuse me former LA mayoral candidate and real estate developer Rick Caruso Criticizing the city's response to the windstorm and fires. He says officials should have been more prepared Real issue to me is twofold We've had decades To go remove the bush in these hills that spread so quickly. And the second is, you've got to have water.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And my understanding is the reservoir was not refilled in time and in a timely manner to keep the hydrants going. So that's a failure, whether on DWP's part or another city agency. But this is basic stuff. This isn't high science here. It's all about leadership and management that we're seeing a failure of. And all of these residents are paying the ultimate price for that.
Starting point is 00:39:17 So okay. Despite what you have heard from Caruso, no firefighters have told us that they are running out of water. And let's go out to Gigi Graziet. She is live in Pacific Palisades. So no firefighters have told us that they are running out of water. And let's go out to Gigi Gracie. She is live in Pacific Palisades. I know your signal is not the best, but Gigi, what can you tell us? Well, firefighters have told me they have no water on this block.
Starting point is 00:39:38 You may be able to make out the ember storm that we're in the middle of right now. This is going to be a total loss. This is when you try to, what a way to go that she says no firefighters have told us this. Well let's talk about what was that reporter doing? That reporter was politicizing the point. Who is she trying to protect? Protecting leadership.
Starting point is 00:39:58 There are two things, there's just two things in California that are issues here. Number one is power management and number two is forestry management. Forestry management, cutting the lines, you fly in an airplane and you see those power lines up there with those large, look like robot standing, that are carrying power lines, and you look at the way that there would be almost like little valleys cut. That is done intentionally to provide fire breaks and to provide access there. The second thing that Recruiso brings up is right, is there is proper brush management.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And with all of the loss in California and the budget that's been used for everything, but, right, we're going to, you lose it. Now, let's go, water. Here's the impact. What you didn't hear there, let me translate it for you, America. When it snows in the mountains and it melts in the spring, all the water comes down, becomes a creek, becomes a river, and where does the river ultimately go? Out to the ocean. And long ago they said,
Starting point is 00:40:58 maybe we should put reservoirs here because that's fresh water. And we could collect the water so it doesn't just go into the ocean and collect it in reservoirs and then we could pump it for people, we could use it for fire, we could use it for a lot of things because there's a lot of people moving to California,
Starting point is 00:41:13 a lot of people here. That's what that Governor Newsom in the name of some fish said, we're removing these dams. And when they remove the dams, the dams create the dams create the reservoirs. So now go to LA and there's management of dams and reservoirs weren't refilled. And if you fly into LA or Burbank you look down and you'll see these great big, what are those lakes on top of the mountains? Those are
Starting point is 00:41:39 reservoirs there to feed and protect you you know, the people of Los Angeles. And it is irresponsible management. I take you back to the election. Forget that it was about Trump. Go look at the red versus blue. It was bigger than just Trump. The people of California are screaming for leadership. Orange County went red.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Outside San Diego went red. California got this huge squeeze in red. If that election was held today, this isn't about whether Trump carries California or not, it's about whether the people are screaming for new leadership or not. And they had an opportunity under Larry Elder, but it just didn't get done. But now we've had two more seasons of wildflowers and this. And you see that? That red there, forget what it stands for. Just say from 2020, 2024, people are getting increasingly unhappy
Starting point is 00:42:36 and increasingly discontent with leadership. They want something different. Here's what's going to happen though, Tom. All these clips you watch in your time like California, right? I get a you know, we start making videos about homeowners insurance in Florida and in California, we've been making these homeowners insurance videos for the last few years Okay, many of you guys have seen it I just made one four months ago about the California homeowners insurance and what's going to be taking place Rob fair plan
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah, it's called the California insurance time bomb that I did from four months ago If you just go type in California insurance time bomb, you'll see that came up and just put bed David Just put bed David. You'll see it come up Right there zoom in a little bit Rob. That's how long ago four months ago Okay, and it explains what's about to happen with homeowners insurance in the state of California. So watch this. My pastor, who married my wife and I,
Starting point is 00:43:32 he runs a church, 20,000 members. You met him. We went to Universal Studios with him. Dudley, love him. Everybody who knows him loves him, right? I'm checking on him and his family to make sure everything is right. And he says, for 38 years, he's been paying homeowners insurance.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Always on time. This is a responsible man, you know, solid guy, family guy, great guy. I'm one of the top five men that has influenced my life directly. And he says, just last week, just last week, this is before the fires, I got a notice last week that they are dropping my coverage. Okay? That they're dropping my coverage last week. Now, I'm not going to give the insurance company's names. All I'm telling you is, you know, there's a lot of names, State Farm, Farmers, Liberty, there's a bunch of them that you can go through that are out there that are dropping it.
Starting point is 00:44:22 All state, it's all over the place, right? This is a real story that's going on. The question he asks, which is the question we ask on the video is, here's the following. He's not worried about himself. He says, but what happens if after you are in your home and the rates get so high, you can't afford it anymore? Does the loan company call the loan? Do they repossess your house? State farms
Starting point is 00:44:46 stopped writing new policies for house insurance altogether in California a few years ago. And that's a few years ago. And now California's politicians are forcing insurance companies to insure houses in areas that are high risk and insurance companies are saying, no, why would I do it? I'm leaving your state. So here's where the problem's gonna lie. So imagine how many people lost their homeowner's insurance and then this just happened. How are you fixing a house? Who has, and by the way,
Starting point is 00:45:16 how much you think these houses are in California? Multi-million dollar houses. But in California, you're not a multi, it's not like the multi-millionaire people think. It's like, oh, he's a, you know, what do you call it, Woods, James Woods can pay. James Woods is an $8 million guy at 77 years old. He's been acting for a long time. And you lose the house.
Starting point is 00:45:40 And if you don't have insurance, what the hell are you doing? And forget about you don't have insurance, what the hell are you doing? And forget about you don't have insurance. How long do you think, this is the part that Adam Carolla broke it down, which was phenomenal, the way he broke it down. It's a six minute video. It's worth everybody watching. We're not going to play the whole six minutes, but here's what he said. He says, okay, what are you going to do when all of a sudden all of these malleable people
Starting point is 00:46:02 right there, he's saying that he's doing a podcast out of a, Rob, if you can personally listen to it and go to the part where they explain it. Is that what it is? This is where he starts talking about people voting Democrat and how that's going to change in the future. But I don't think that's the point. No, that's not where I'm going. You want the beginning.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Don't worry about it. I'm just saying it and you know, it's fine. So this is where he's going. He says, what are you going to do when all of these rich people in the Palisades, in Malibu, in Pasadena, Pasadena's got a lot of rich communities, Pasadena's got 20, 30 million out of homes. So what are you gonna do when these guys, their house is burned down? What is a rich person gonna do?
Starting point is 00:46:36 You know what, go expedite the process of getting a permit. Oh really? He says it's gonna take, he says the reason why Bill Maher finally flipped in California is because of a damn, you know, solar he wanted to put on his house that it took so long It's like why the SS we created a thousand-day countdown. Yes to see how long it's gonna take for the solar to go on So finally when he's talking to the other actress, what's the actress that was on just Jane five weeks ago Jane Fonda You're not seeing the problem with all these permits? So watch what happens.
Starting point is 00:47:06 One of the reasons why we left Oakland Park is we're trying to get a damn permit for offense. Two years, two and a half years for one permit. Go and amplify that with all of these builders. How many builders do you have in California? So now somebody says, hey, I want my permit. And he's saying, this person that's a lesbian What kind of builders do you have in California? So now somebody says, hey, I want my permit. And he's saying, this person that's a lesbian working there, giving permits, all this stuff,
Starting point is 00:47:30 is going to sit there and use her power to make it harder for you to get the permit. Now you're going to realize why deregulation is the way to go. Liberals are going to realize the power of deregulation because regulations are slowing so much shit down and he's absolutely right because what now takes place is I rebuild the house. Hey, I'm willing to pay $5 million to rebuild my house. Great. Let's go wait for a permit.
Starting point is 00:47:54 No, no, I need you to start building out. It's not how this works. We need a permit. So the line for permits. Imagine the line for permits. What that's going to look. So then imagine what permits are going to be put on pause. So there's so many other permits right now that are pending.
Starting point is 00:48:10 So imagine you want a permit right now. The city now has to decide which permit is more important. Imagine the fights that are going to take place in cities of wanting permits. He says that's when you realize it's going to take three years until they put the first brick where they first come and break and start building your house three years after you're trying to get a permit. He says that's when people are going to realize, liberals are going to realize what the F are we voting for? And he's 100% right.
Starting point is 00:48:35 By the way, you know who would be a good candidate? I think if right now I'm sure the way Trump works like this, he doesn't work slow, he wants to find out solutions. You know who could be a guy, I just texted him earlier today works like this, he doesn't work slow, he wants to find out solutions. You know who could be a guy, just texted him earlier today to whisper this to him, I don't know if he's going to want to do it or not. There needs to be already a bunch of people being thought about of running over there. And it's not going to be a guy that you think about. A nominate, I'd be making a list of 20 names right now for us to make a phone call and
Starting point is 00:49:00 say, hey, what do you want to do with California? And it's got to be somebody that can win both sides. Zachary Levi was on Jesse Waters yesterday, giving his perspective on what's going on. I just sent him a message a minute ago. A person like that, there's going to be so many people right now that are going to get a knock and say, hey, are you thinking about doing something? You're a Hollywood guy, you're California based, you love this place, are you thinking about doing something?
Starting point is 00:49:22 Are you thinking about doing something? This is going to be a season. This is probably the worst season ever if you thought Justin Trudeau resigned a week ago imagine the amounts of pressures He is going to get and not from Trump not from conservatives not from those people You know when it flips when people who gave you money that are on your side liberals are gonna say hey Newsome it's time. You're out. Step the F aside.
Starting point is 00:49:50 This is ridiculous what's going on right now. I think that's where it's going to go, where California is going to be like, this is a little bit too much. And by the way, that could take a year or two or three years, but that day is coming. In the meantime, guess what that doesn't fix? You know what it doesn't fix? Let's just say you get somebody else that's going to be on the red, okay? That's going to have better policies.
Starting point is 00:50:10 That's going to say deregulation. That's going to say speed things up. How many people can afford to wait three, four, five years? How many people can afford to pay the homeowners insurance? Do you know why so many people are moving to Nevada? They're moving to Nevada because of this mess. Mark Walbrough goes straight to Nevada. So many people are out, they're like, I'm out of here. Yes, Texas has grown because of people from California, and it's not just the Rogans
Starting point is 00:50:33 and the Musks. We went to Texas. A lot of people are going to Texas. Florida, you're going to see things happening in the state of California. It hasn't happened before. But even to get there, they're still going to be paying the next 12, 24, 36 months all because of this guy's bad policies. Tom and I'll put some stats behind it so I'm not going to mention any everything that we talked about Dudley I'm not talking about any companies that he mentioned I'm just looking at facts facts State Farm and All-States stopped selling insurance because of the California Fair Plan and Governor Newsom.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Fact, State Farm announced last year they would non-renew 30,000 policies and what they called, ready for this, wildfire risk areas. And you're thinking middle of nowhere, big bear up in the forest. Nope. Guess what? They non-renewed, here's the stat, Pat, State Farm non-renewed 69% of the policies it had in Pacific Palisades. Data point this morning confirmed.
Starting point is 00:51:34 State Farm said last year, we're non-renewing 69% of the homes we insure currently today in Palisades. Why? Long-term brush risk and poor management of the common area What can't blame them? No, I'm not blaming. I know you're not but what I'm saying is you cannot blame the business has to make profits And when the regulators make their life a living kill and make them look bad, what do you want us to take a loss every year? We're correct. Now I'm going to the punchline. Why did they do that? Because the county of LA and the city of LA had suspended brush removal in Palisades. This comes down to the county.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Are you joking? Yeah, you can find it. You can find it was suspended here, casual brush removal was suspended here, limited brush removal was suspended here. This is all going to come out because exactly by another people. That's when Trump said he gotta clean the floor. And the floor is.
Starting point is 00:52:28 That's exactly right. And who did, by the way, to his credit, what do you say? You said get smarter people in the room with you. Who did he praise? You know the people in Finland have had policies and they've been doing this for a while. So he's not saying, hey I'll fix it. He's saying, you know this problem has been solved.
Starting point is 00:52:43 There's another case study, we have it. They did it, why don't we learn from them and fix it. That's exactly right and so I'm not down on the insurance companies I'm saying the insurance companies are at the bottom of the waterfall and at the top of the waterfall is the state with their policies and budget cuts on on fire and brush suppression and all the things that they've done despite the level of taxes they are collecting and now They collect the tax they have the money prices of homes are way up so property taxes up But what are they doing with the money?
Starting point is 00:53:13 Pro homeless programs sanctuary city programs are wasting the money on non-citizen spends Citizen spends you're keeping the the valleys and the areas clear of brush and you're working on that non citizen spend You have all these pet DEI projects. That's the upstream problem. The money was spent on other stuff I just don't think that Gavin Newsom is going anywhere. You compared him to Justin Trudeau I think he's the Justin Trudeau of California I think his ego is so much bigger. And I still think he has his eye on 2028. I think that's just who he is. So, you know, you said that bad policies have consequences.
Starting point is 00:53:54 I constantly just go back to what DeSantis is doing in Florida versus what Newsom is doing in California. So you know, when DeSantis got reelected, he said, come to Florida, where woke goes to die. And we all know that in California, this is where woke goes to live and prosper. And it comes down to policies versus personality. And you'd need to figure out and get someone in office in California that cares more about what needs to be done than what feels good. So common sense policies, the guy that's going to take over for Trudeau is likely to be this guy, Pierre Poliev.
Starting point is 00:54:34 And the one thing that he keeps saying, and they're like, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? He's like, common sense, just common sense, common sense conservatism. And we're just going to do things that are common. But as we've learned, common sense conservatism, and we're just going to do things that are common. But as we've learned, common sense is not that common. You know, one last thing. Pull up a map of California, of the United States. I feel like I'm living in the movie My Cousin Vinny.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Now Rob, go to the California. What's that thing all the way next to California, Rob? No, no, just right there on the map, right where you were. Is it water? It's water. It's a huge ocean. All the way next to California Rob. No, no just right there on the map right where you were What is it water? It's water. Yeah, it's a huge ocean. It's not like you're living in Kansas Do you remember the scene in my cousin Vinnie when he's like are these magic grits? And the guy's like hey, um, the beanstalk the beanstalk he goes, uh, Uh, what's this? Uh, he's like, oh, that's a that's a window. Okay. Now, when you saw out the window, what's in front of the window?
Starting point is 00:55:26 Trees. Trees. Now, what are all these little things near the trees? Leaves. Leaves and bushes. There's a humongous ocean next to California. It's not like you're in the breadbasket of the country and you're in Kansas or in Oklahoma. How are we going to get water here?
Starting point is 00:55:43 You're on an ocean. And what you said, I loved what you said yesterday, PBD, we have the brightest brains, we have startups, we have entrepreneurs, Silicon Valley, you're telling me if you invested $22 billion, like they did in the Homeless Project, that went nowhere? You gave that to a startup?
Starting point is 00:56:00 They couldn't figure this out, but no. Well, we'll see, we'll see what's gonna. You know Tupac is song to live and die and I was that's what I used to think of LA now when I think of to live And die in LA you might just go down in a forest fire. Yes, okay, so listen to all the people in California our prayers are with you and Probably the best part I liked about what James would said I think when he was on Fox or I don't know if it was CNN or Fox He said listen we're realizing with this fire and all my neighbors all of us helping each other out Nobody cares if you're a Republican or Democrat These moments bring everybody together because you realize the value of your neighbor and your community
Starting point is 00:56:40 And I saw that with Laura Ingram anyways, okay And last reminder everything they buy today is heading to California And last reminder, everything they buy today is heading to California. A hundred percent of what they buy today is going to California. And by the way, if you have families that are being affected, we're not looking at giving all the money to one person. It's going to be $2,000 a year, $3,000 a year, put this person in a hotel, do that over here. You know, we're going to be contributing to different families. We'll hopefully find a way to get that money to the folks, but 100% of whatever purchases
Starting point is 00:57:06 are made today is going to families in California. I think the numbered hat, there is less than 30 left of that numbered hat for those of you guys that want to get the 45-47. Let me continue. Next story here. Sonny Hauston, her husband accused of committing federal insurance fraud in a lawsuit. Okay, now let's read this. Rob, is this a video?
Starting point is 00:57:31 Well, I have this, I'll show you this. Okay, let me just read this and I'll come to you. So, Dr. Manuel Manny Hostin, an orthopedic surgeon and husband of the view co-host, Sunny Hostin is accused in December, lawsuit fraudulently billing insurance, by the way, this is a daily caller story I'm reading. The lawsuit alleges Huston knowingly provided
Starting point is 00:57:50 fraudulent medical and other healthcare services in exchange for kickbacks and or compensation and names him among nearly 200 defendants in one of New York's largest RICO cases. Wow. Huston's attorney, Daniel Twites, denies the allegations, calling the lawsuit a meritless attempt by a near-bankrupt insurance carrier to intimidate doctors and restrict healthcare
Starting point is 00:58:11 benefits. The case involves claims that Houston performs unnecessary surgeries on patients after minor accidents without exploring less invasive treatments, with American Transit citing New York's 1974 no-fault laws contributing to widespread insurance fraud Vinny What do you know about this? So? Man, it's just the view just a person the the Sonny Hoss and that we all love from one of my favorite shows On the view and it's always Tom Would you always say it's always the people that always do the pointing and it's always it always comes back to them
Starting point is 00:58:44 All right, so when you said this is the largest Rico case ever filed in the state of New York you guys Let's wrap that wrap that around your around your brain That's bigger than the mafia case like the mafia one was number one. This one takes it over So he was scamming insurance companies from taxi drivers Uber drivers and Lyft drivers He was performing unnecessary surgeries and then providing fraudulent medical services in exchange for the kickbacks. Here's a clip I want you guys to see of Sonny Hostin on the view Tom basically implicating her husband in this type of a scheme. Play the clip Rob. Let Son wait, hold on, let Sunny get in here.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I mean, I agree with mostly everything that's been said. I mean, we know that only about 31% of Americans trust our healthcare system. We have a terrible healthcare system. And doctors suffer because of big corporations as well. Doctors that wanna do good, like my husband, operates on someone even though they don't have insurance and then has to sue health insurance companies to get paid for the work that he's been trained his whole
Starting point is 00:59:54 life to do. So there are a lot of problems with it, but the notion that we are in a violent country, this country was built on violence. We're a very violent country. Rob, you can stop it. But she's talking about the whole Luigi Mangione and all that situation.
Starting point is 01:00:08 And mind you, she is not implicated in the lawsuit at all. But it's just, I mean, you're married, Tom, you're married. If your husband's doing something, if he's allegedly doing something like this, you guys would know if your wives were up to some nefarious stuff. Let's just not forget who she is. She's been for years lecturing America about morality, inequality, systemic failures, and look at her track record.
Starting point is 01:00:30 How many times does she have to go on in the past two months and look at the camera and do a legal apology for all the stuff that she said on the show? And then she also on Trump's win calling the loss because of uneducated white women that Trump won. We have to know that. This is accused. All accused. Yeah, all accused. But he's in the RICO. This is a big RICO case that her husband's in. Tom, what are your thoughts on this? Let me give you a different perspective.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Well, I think date night was Sonny and her husband are being a little interested. How'd it go today? Oh, it was terrible. I had to read this legal statement into a camera and I'd do what they told me. And her husband's like, so did I! I had the same day! Now he's just accused and this accused in a lawsuit after some time of investigation could ultimately become a federal indictment. That's the apparent path this is on. We'll wait and see. But it does not look well when your name ends up with 200 people in a Rico investigation This is the biggest investigation since Giuliani. Yeah shook the tree and a bunch of mobsters fell out, right? This is this is big stuff. And so and thank you for bringing that video. It sure is
Starting point is 01:01:40 ironic that she's up there so but If she didn't really know what was going on, right, which is what she's probably going to say later, Oh, I had no idea what my husband and his, and his associates were doing. We'll wait and see what that is. But I think it's pretty fricking ironic. Yeah. I have a totally different perspective on this. I don't really know what happened with this. The facts will come out. What I have a problem with is the core of who this woman is. Unlike you, I don't watch the view, bro.
Starting point is 01:02:06 All I do is see clips. Here's all I hear from her. America's violent. America's racist. America's bad. Okay. I challenge you, Sonny. And this is Constance Kisen actually was saying something about this.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Find me a country that's not racist. Find me a country anywhere in the world that wasn't founded on violence. Find me a country that is perfect. Find me a country that doesn't have any issues. So when you're comparing America to utopia, yeah, we're going to look pretty bad. But if you compare America to literally every country on the history of the world We're doing pretty damn good and not only pretty damn good We're the greatest country to ever exist So this whole notion that all she wants to do is find the flaws in America the flaws in America. We're so bad
Starting point is 01:02:58 We're so racist. We're so violent her sunny and all the sunny crew Find me the country that is just so perfect and then you can go there yeah and they get a sign or you know she said a few days ago by January 6 she compared it are you ready for this Adam the Holocaust World War three and slavery and I don't know if you guys forgot she was on that PBS show finding your roots they did the background check, her great grandfather was slaves. It's like the biggest hypocrite on the planet. I don't want to spend too much time on this. It's hypocrisy.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Let's just go to the next story here. Let's talk about the Gulf of Mexico. So beautiful name. Trump announces Gulf of Mexico. We'll get new pro-America revamp. President Trump announced Gulf of Mexico is getting a new name. We're going to be changing the name of Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America, which has a beautiful ring that covers a lot of territory, Trump said on Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:03:47 The Gulf of America, what a beautiful name, and it's appropriate. Trump made the announcement in his first press conference since Congress certified his election win over Vice President Kamala Harris. He opened a press event announcing the Mac properties will invest $20 billion, and he broke that down with the data centers. And Gulf of Mexico is partnering close, seed that border states such as Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida, as well as Mexico. So he's claiming, he is saying, we should call it Gulf of America.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Now Rob, is this the clip of him saying that? Yes. Well, we'll play this and then we'll play the clip of the president of Mexico, her reaction to this. Go ahead. It's ours. and we'll play the clip of the president of mexico her reaction to this go ahead it's ours we're going to be changing so the opposite of byton where he's closing everything up essentially getting rid of
Starting point is 01:04:32 fifty to sixty trillion dollars worth of assets were going to be uh... changing the name of the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america which has a beautiful rain that covers lot of territory the gulf of amer which has a beautiful ring that covers a lot of territory. The Gulf of America, what a beautiful name. And it's appropriate. It's appropriate. And Mexico has to stop allowing millions of people to pour into our country.
Starting point is 01:04:57 They can stop them. And we're going to put very serious tariffs on Mexico and Canada. I love it. Now, go to the President of Mexico and what she says about the Gulf of Mexico and she tries to take a shot at Trump going back and you're gonna have to read the subtitles folks with this. So Rob, if you have the subtitles on this, go ahead. Obviously, the Gulf of Mexico is recognized by the name by the UN.
Starting point is 01:05:28 But next, why not call it the Mexican America? Sounds pretty, doesn't it? 1607. La Constitución de Apatzingán era de América Mexicana. Entonces, vamos a llamarle América Mexicana. Se oye bonito, no? Sounds pretty, doesn't it? You can pause it right there. What's her point, Rob? What's her point? Your law, I mean, yes, we understand. I mean, we're Assyrians. We don't have a country right now. We lost it a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:06:13 It's in Iraq. There's a lot of places that had more territory, that it's not that anymore. But the fact that Trump's pushing this, do you know when this debate also happened years ago with the Shah of Iran about the Persian Gulf where Mike Wallace asks him the question? I don't know if you've seen this or not Rob, if you want to pull it up. Mike Wallace, Pahlavi, Persian Gulf. It's a very similar, is this the one?
Starting point is 01:06:42 I think this is the one. See if that's the one right there where they're debating the Persian Gulf. Is that what it says up there? Discussing Israel. No, this is discussing Israel. Let me see if I can find it. No, there is one where he's discussing the Persian Gulf while he's looking for that. Tom, what are your thoughts on this story?
Starting point is 01:06:58 I think she felt she had to run to the microphone and say something. But I think she's a little tone deaf because the guy that's on the other side has got a whole set of programs and levers that he's going to pull levers and initiate programs. And she needs to be playing nice with him. I think she knows exactly what Trump was saying. He was drawing a parallel to what Biden had been giving up assets and doing things. And he's talking about strengthening America and makes a comment about renaming the Gulf of Mexico. That is not something I think she should run to the microphone and be talking about.
Starting point is 01:07:36 I think it's really misguided reaction on her part because you're about to sit at the negotiating table. Oh, such a royally dumb mistake when you sit across the table from him and that's the game you want to rob is that the one that you listen to it or not? You know when when when when she does something like that do you notice that's exactly the one because I know his body language that's the one go back a little bit and uh play. I have been across the it the Gulf of America. However, if you noticed her body language of her speaking, it was not only weak, but
Starting point is 01:08:34 no one in the audience reacted to her the way she thought they were going to react to her. Looking for validation. From your own people that you would like to see a laughter You would like to see something nothing. Well, guess what ma'am my recommendation to you is Whatever you do today Cancel all your appointments Go read a book called art of the deal because you're about to see what he's gonna do
Starting point is 01:09:04 because you're about to see what he's gonna do to you. Tariffs come in your way if you play that game with this guy. He's the wrong guy to try to play this game with. It's coming your way. Okay, Adam, any thoughts on this? Yeah, I think we're gonna see so much more of this. I don't know if Trump is just trolling. I don't know if this is actually part of his policy agenda, but I think that these types of things... We're buying Greenland, Greenland, we own you now. What? Panama canal, we're taking control. Mexico, you're no longer the Gulf of Mexico. I just think these things are being thrown out there. Canada, 51st state, sorry. And then see who reacts and see who basically moves. Justin Trudeau reacted. He's
Starting point is 01:09:43 gone. We're going to see what happened. I think Pat brought up a good point. Let's see. Why did she even respond to this? What's going to happen with this? You see what John Fetterman was inching closer and closer and closer and closer to being sort of a common sense independent, no longer a Democrat. He said the following, this is regarding Greenland, you know, because Donald Trump Jr. I think was just in Greenland, basically saying daddy's going to buy you. Sorry, Denmark. Fetterman urged the public to temper its reactions to Trump's statement saying, we really need
Starting point is 01:10:12 to pace ourselves here, guys, if we're going to freak out over every single last tweet or every last conversation or press conference. I think there's people are going to react and see and Trump is going to basically see what happens there. But here's my prediction Trump, you know, we had we had we had a agenda here at Valuetainment and they called it What B hacks? big hairy audacious goals, right I think Trump is just sitting there and he's like Let's go big or go home. I think Trump has always had plans of doing this. Well the Greenland thing he brought up in 2019
Starting point is 01:10:45 I've never heard of the Gulf of Mexico thing ever. I never heard of the Panama come out thing ever from Trump at least I know that they brought it up, but I think people are like, you know what we should do. We should Make Canada the 51st state. He said oh, I like that. I mean it's Incredibly impossible. Yeah, but you know what it is though, let me tell you what great leaders and visionaries do. You know what they do? Cast a vision. They cast a bold vision and everybody says what? What?
Starting point is 01:11:16 It's crazy man. You're crazy and then either your existing people don't buy into it and they leave you because they think you're full of shit, but then the people that are like hell yeah, then they show up. But the right people are going to show up. And Trump's had plans of doing this for the longest time, but he just couldn't do it on his first term.
Starting point is 01:11:34 You're going to see this for four years straight. My number one priority with the president is, just the same way this business owner in California was hiring private firefighters. Rob, is this the guy that was tweeting online, I'm looking for private fire, imagine you're a rich entrepreneur, and you're online saying, hey, I'm looking for a California entrepreneur
Starting point is 01:11:57 asks for private firefighters to protect his home. Keith Wasserman, does anyone have access to private firefighters to protect our home and palisades? Need to act fast, your all neighbors house burning, we'll pay any amount, thank you. Do you see that urgency? I'm telling you, the administration needs to say we're looking for private military contractors to protect the president in ways that we don't know the protection we're going to get till the 20th.
Starting point is 01:12:21 That includes what's today's date? Is today the 9th? Today's the 9th. You know what's's date is today the night or today's the night You know what's going on today Jimmy Carter ceremony that the president will be attending who's in charge of the Secret Service protection that day Not Trump Not Trump who's in charge of the protection on the 19th who's in charge until he's in Where you can replace anything you want to do with the Secret Service? I'm having an urgency like I've been saying this from day one, however many days we have
Starting point is 01:12:49 today is what the night, the 11 days can't come fast enough for him to be in so we can swear everybody in and we move all the old guys there. Don't be surprised if in the next 11 days they try to do anything and everything for these guys to not be replaced. It'll be one of the biggest shakedowns in politics ever. If you think he's playing like this now, do you think he's playing 100% aggressive? You think he's really pushing the envelope? I don't think he is. I think he's just getting started. I think this is 30%. When he's in and you see it 100% knowing he does not give a shit about being reelected,
Starting point is 01:13:26 you have nothing else to get done except whatever you ever had on the list of your first time to get there. You just knew you wouldn't gonna do it on your second term. And then this leads me to Greenland, right? Trump Jr. and Charlie Kirk and others fly out to Greenland. So random.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Is this them, by the way? So they fly out to Greenland and Trump says, hey, we should be doing out to Greenland. So random. Is this them by the way? So they fly out to Greenland and Trump says hey we should be doing something with Greenland. They fly out. If you want to play this clip go for it. This is Junior in Greenland. Guys we're here in Greenland. This is the founder. 1721. That yellow house with the red top. That was his original spot. That's where he moved. This is where it all started out here. Just incredible scenery. Super cool stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:14 I think the population in Greenland, if I'm not mistaken, is 56,000. I don't know what the number is. That is correct. Is it? Okay, so 56,000 Greenland. While this is taking place, Federman is being interviewed, okay? And Federman compares Trump's Greenland talk to Louisiana Purchase.
Starting point is 01:14:31 What? Wow, you know, it's not that big of a deal. It's similar to that. And then got people asking and saying, well, maybe he's got a point. Rob, is this the one here? Go ahead and play this clip here with Republican Federman.
Starting point is 01:14:44 I'm sorry, no, Democratic. Republican Federman. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead and play this clip here with a Republican federal man I'm sorry no it Democratic yeah go ahead go ahead and play this clip here go ahead there's a lot of talk about Greenland for example and I know a lot of there's a lot of freakouts you know and of course I would never support taking it by force but I do think it's I do think it's a responsible conversation if they were open to acquiring it and you know know, whether just buying it outright. I mean, if anyone think that's bonkers, it's like, well, remember the Louisiana purchase? I think Alaska was pretty a great deal, too. $50 million, I think it was, it was referred to as Seward's Folly.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Replace that B with an R. So I mean, you know, open to having all kinds of conversations as well, and now, I don't think we, it's not helpful to freak out, but some things might work out, some may not, but that's part of ongoing dialogue, but he hasn't even take office in two weeks, and we really need to pace ourselves if we're gonna freak out over every last tweet
Starting point is 01:15:43 or every last conversation or press conference. I like it. I like it. We show Rob that. Rob is dressing like John Fetterman. We are here to work together. Some things you can agree or disagree, but I think that's how DC works.
Starting point is 01:16:01 You all have a great... Can I bring up Bob Sundance? I've always liked John Manchin. I mean, I'm Federman and Joe Manchin Right over your head Joe Manchin is his guy Jesus for him. Yep. So there's a couple things going on in Greenland, and let's talk about them. Right now, Greenland is a... People look at the map and it looks giant.
Starting point is 01:16:33 It's actually only about three times the size of Texas, and it's about 20% the size of the continental United States. That's how big it is. And it has, you're correct, that's the population. And by the way, game one of the World Series was 53,300 so Greenland's population was roughly game one of the World Series always got to bring up the World Series No, no, he has to grow but the Tommy you're saying that it's humongous and there's only 50,000 people living there No, I'm saying that what would it look like? Let me get to it. Let me get to it
Starting point is 01:17:04 Why why all this discussion on it because our president-elect is crazy like a fox What China has been attempting to get? mineral extraction rights in Greenland Greenland has massive quantities of the elements and minerals that are necessary for EVs and future battery production and what percent of light earth elements and heavy earth elements does the EU need from China? 81% of light minerals and elements and 90% of heavy elements that's the EU. They need that stuff
Starting point is 01:17:45 to make batteries and stuff. They're getting 81% of one and 90% of the other from China. China is looking to corner the world market on the things that make batteries for EVs and other precious metals that are needed in the future. Greenland is rich and full of this stuff but the 56,000 people and their and their government they don't want what is estimated to be ready for this 75,000 immigrants over 10 years to come work in the mines and to industrialize all this and the people of Greenland are like wait wait wait whoa whoa whoa they don't basically want to be overrun with workers and to have the countryside turned into open mining.
Starting point is 01:18:30 So Greenland doesn't want that. Then the Dutch don't have the full bankroll to help all that because you're going to need, what are you going to need? More fire stations, more police, more roads built, more infrastructure. If you have that many people building, it's going to be building, boom.
Starting point is 01:18:45 So Trump is up there because of three reasons of strategic importance, and here they are. Take a look at this map today in the Wall Street Journal. You have Greenland up there, and now it's shown it is its actual size, because on maps, they get distorted, Greenland looks big. That's the actual size of Greenland, you can see it. Yeah, on maps, it looks bigger than US, but it's not. It's about the size of what is it Texas?
Starting point is 01:19:09 Two and a half Texas. Yeah two and a half Texas. Right. Exactly. So now take here. It's massive. We have a space base. There are rare earth deposits on the tip south of Nook which is their capital which is where Don Jr. was filming from, and take a look at all the Northeast Passage and all the discussion we've had about have we not heard about defense and the strategic Arctic submarine routes and that we want to make sure we have a presence there because the Russians just run around there without any. So there is a military issue to it, there is the mineral issue to it, and there is national security because we don't
Starting point is 01:19:45 want to be reliant on China. Now China has been rebuffed a couple times by the government up there to start the big mining projects, but Trump is crazy like a fox. He knows that this has strategic importance for the military and for the minerals and what Trump wants is a situation similar to Puerto Rico. Denmark, if you can't afford this, you're a little light this week, we've got all the money we need. Ooh, Tom, I like you, Trump.
Starting point is 01:20:11 We'll take care of it. Right, so this is Adam, right? We'll do it. And that's what Trump is talking about. So he is rationally talking about protecting something that would be really important. But who else would it be important? It would also be important to the EU that is 81 and 90% reliant on these heavy minerals and light earth minerals to China. And so China may have a troubled economy here as we talk on Tuesday, Pat, but they're still
Starting point is 01:20:37 playing the long game on this and they are desperate to control Greenland. Trump wants to get there first and also not let the EU and Denmark sit around for 10 years. What are we going to do? I don't know. What do you want to do? He wants to say, no, no, no, let's make a decision. Let's do this now. And this is what's going on.
Starting point is 01:20:54 This is a very smart strategic move. And today, as I was putting this together today, the last thing I pulled up, June 9th, 430 a.m. So I pulled everything, I'm ready for today, article from the information. The electric, China wants to block the West from catching up in battery technology. And I'm like, well, there you have it.
Starting point is 01:21:16 And how do you do that? You cut off the supply of all the minerals it takes to make those batteries, or you control where all the minerals are in the world. I actually think Trump is very interested in this. If you remember, he brought this up in 2019. Some of this other stuff, Panama Canal, Canada, 50%, this is all sort of just, you know, bluster thrown out there.
Starting point is 01:21:36 He threw this out there in 2019. People were like, what is wrong with this guy? But in reality, if you actually look at it, it's actually crazy like a fox. You know, you've been thinking, what's wrong with him? Only Trump would think of this art of the deal. No, there's actually a president called Harry Truman who actually made an offer for Greenland right after World War II, 1946. He offered how much?
Starting point is 01:21:58 $100 million. Okay. So there's precedent for buying massive territory. You brought up Alaska. I think America bought Alaska off Russia in the 1860s for like 7 million bucks, which is the equivalent of basically 140 million bucks. We know the Louisiana Purchase in the early 1800s, I think 1803. Alexander Jackson, I want to say 15 million bucks, which is the equivalent of 500 million bucks. But you know, if you sort of, they're trying to basically give a an estimate of what it would be worth today, they're basically saying it'd be worth anywhere between 200 billion to 1.7 trillion,
Starting point is 01:22:38 I don't know, are the deal this thing up. But Tom brought up a couple different points. It's economic, it's safety, It's security. It's strategy It's geopolitical. I think we have our one of our air bases there came to the tool air base I want to it's called which is home to the missile defense system This is a massive strategic move by Trump You know, one of your favorite presidents was George Joey bitch's called strategic. He got my favorite things to t-dry You know, so we're gonna see what happens with this. You know what it was when you hire someone on your behalf?
Starting point is 01:23:10 You think about how they handle meetings when you're not there, okay? So the last few weeks, I've been having every day, it happened again yesterday, oh my God, I can't tell you how grateful I am because I've had a hard time getting ahold of you and pa-pa-pa-pa because, you know, and I kept thinking maybe you just didn't wanna talk to me. I said, I don't even know if grateful I am because I've had a hard time getting ahold of you and pa-pa-pa-pa because you know, and I kept thinking maybe you just didn't wanna talk to me.
Starting point is 01:23:28 I said, I don't even know if you were trying to get ahold of me. Well, I would text you or person and he would never get back to me. I'm like, okay. If I tell you this has happened 50 times, I'm giving you a small number, right? So in your mind, you have to think about
Starting point is 01:23:38 who is gonna make you look good, look better and negotiate and represent you on your behalf. Do you remember when we talked about this 10 months ago, 9 months ago, when you're voting for president, right? Do you want Kamala negotiating for you, or do you want Trump negotiating for you? Do you want Biden negotiating for you, or do you want Trump negotiating for you? And you can go and add anybody else you want on this list negotiating on your behalf. This is exactly why people voted for him.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Because they're convinced he's going to negotiate on behalf of America thinking about not just the next five moves, but the next 10, 15, 20, 30 moves of America for the next 40 years. Not just the next four years. Not just the next eight years. The next 40 years. And he's proven it with the way he's coming out while he's just a president-elect. Think about how much noise he's made just as a president-elect during this time. I can only imagine what things he's going to be working on when he's actually in office.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Next story. Metta ends fact-checking program at Zuckerberg vows to restore free expression on Facebook and Instagram. Zuck made a video. Rob, is this the video? This is a short version. The whole video is five minutes long. Then play the short version of it. Go ahead and play this clip. We're gonna get back to our roots and focus on reducing mistakes, simplifying our policies, and restoring free expression on our platforms. More specifically, we're gonna get rid of fact checkers and replace them with community notes
Starting point is 01:25:11 similar to X starting in the US. And by the way, let me tell you what happened in this video, Rob, that watch right there, people are saying he was wearing a $900,000 watch. Yeah, he's worth 200 billion. He's wearing a $900,000 watch. That's not a lot of money to wear the Nine hundred thousand auto watch he is not the Zuckerberg of 20 years ago when the movie social network came out 15 years ago
Starting point is 01:25:31 Depicted him as this nerd guy He can probably kick 99% of people's asses if he fights based on the training that he's been getting He's trying to become a man and he's becoming you know, he's going through an evolution No, he is you know what? he is right now. Remember the scene? You know he just turned 40. I know. Remember the famous scene he's like, I'm a man. I'm 40.
Starting point is 01:25:49 No, but the point is, I like him recreating himself. And while this happens this week, what does he do? He announces Dana White that's gonna be sitting on Facebook's board, okay? That announcement happens at the same time. Elon retweets this announcement that they're going to Community Notes and he says, cool, because it just means that he is following Elon's lead. And yesterday, Brandon, in a prep meeting, asked us a question, says, do you know which
Starting point is 01:26:19 website gets the most traffic out of all the social media websites? Which one gets the most traffic out of all the social media websites, which one gets the most traffic? Active users. Everybody said, X, YouTube, TikTok. Nope, he said Facebook, get out of here. Yes, you're serious, yes, just put that chart, Rob, at the top if you could, that picture right there. Yeah, zoom in a little bit if you could
Starting point is 01:26:41 so the audience can see it. So check this out. YouTube is the views, that's monthly visits. This isn't the one. It's the one that shows right there. Facebook on a monthly basis, 3.06 billion monthly active users. That's 37% of the population that uses Facebook at least once a month that they log on. This is the owner of that app.
Starting point is 01:27:04 This is the owner of that company, the CEO of that company. So he made this decision. Now there's some people that are having different views on this. Some good, some bad, some ugly. Some are trusting it, some are not. Vinny, what are you up with this? I don't trust him.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Let's just go over, and you mentioned it, the social network, what are the odds? Pat, last night I just randomly started watching in the background when I was making dinner. It raises a lot of questions about trust. Let's start with the Winklevoss twins. Tom you remember this they created a social network. This is what the movie is about. It was called Connect You. They hired Zuckerberg to work on it. Instead he allegedly took their idea and launched Facebook. If you guys haven't seen the movie go watch it. This led to a lawsuit where they settled for 65 million
Starting point is 01:27:47 dollars but compared to what Facebook is worth, that's pennies to the freaking dollar. And then his friend Eduardo Severin, his very close friend, who provided $15,000 seed money to launch Facebook, but as the company grew, his shares were diluted from 34 to 10%, shafting his freaking boy and pushing him out, and he sued, Severin sued Facebook and Zuckerberg, and he got a stake in Facebook, and now he's a multi-billionaire.
Starting point is 01:28:20 So follow me with who he is as his character. Living in Singapore. Living in Singapore, and then Tom, think about it. In 2020, they put how much, 400 and some billion dollars So follow me with who he is as a character. Living in Singapore. Living in Singapore. And then, Tom, think about it. In 2020, they put how much? Four hundred and some billion dollars to help Joe Biden and Kamala Harris win the election and look at what the damage has been done for this past four years and who knows what's to come.
Starting point is 01:28:36 And then these actions, I think they paint a picture of who he is as a person. He allegedly stole ideas for Facebook. he sidelines his partners, he influences elections, and now because he has hair gel and he's buff and he's friends with Dana White, we're supposed to forget all that. No, no, no. I still want accountability for what he's done. The damage hasn't been done. And now, oh, now all of a sudden, because a new boss is coming into town, everything changing everything is changing I don't trust it Pat I think he's he's changing his tune because he know Trump is coming in and he wrote the letter for Congress like oh I didn't know bullshit sorry for my language he knows everything that he's
Starting point is 01:29:16 doing and now he's shifting because what he did push-ups now when you say you don't trust him what do you mean by that I don't I don't trust the guy with the track record like how he has that's me that's my opinion I just don't trust him, what do you mean by that? I don't trust the guy with the track record like how he has. That's me. That's my opinion. I just don't trust it. Well guess what? You're not alone, okay? And you know what I love about business and the marketplace?
Starting point is 01:29:34 You get to sit there and say, I don't trust that person for now. I don't. And there's nothing wrong with that. However, Tom, for you, what do you stand with this, with what Zuck is doing? What do you think about his evolution? I think the evolution is being led by advanced intelligence. Rob, I just sent you that. Just go down to the chart. So take a look at this chart. This is the number of lobbyists and what they spend of all the social media networks. Take a look at the big blue at the bottom.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Guess what? That's Facebook. Look at what Facebook is spending compared to other people on Lobbyist Pat. Look at that. The big blue at the bottom is Facebook spending, then there's ByteDance and there's X, and then there's Snap and Discord.
Starting point is 01:30:16 There you go. So they have been very strategic about their lobbying, number one. Number two, Facebook has learned an important lesson on two things. One was Cambridge Analytics. And the second was the changing face of Washington that it doesn't matter how many lobbyists you have,
Starting point is 01:30:33 the public opinion pushes hard. And so he sends a letter to the honorable Jim Jordan. I think he's really trying to reinvent himself, but he is trying to be a CEO that saves his company He has it's there are very there are many people out there that have had problems underage girls Zuckerberg's problem with underage girls has nothing to do with any Actions by him. He's got a problem because all of this data has come out and the hearings are going to restart.
Starting point is 01:31:07 As soon as everybody is sworn in in Washington, Pat, the hearings are going to restart on the impact of social media and what's called the constant comparison. How many likes? Am I cute enough? All this and the impact it has on 11 to 16 year old girls during puberty and their development psychologically. And that they cut themselves and they're committing suicide and that Facebook knew about this
Starting point is 01:31:36 and was feeding into it and forcing it. So he's about to be in front of Congress because those are gonna restart as soon as the new Congress is in and people are sworn in. And so I think Facebook as an organization has been getting smarter and reacting, and I think he's trying to save his company. Is he reinventing himself?
Starting point is 01:31:55 Do I think there's a change of heart? Or do I think there is a change of strategy, and he's brought Dana White in and other people to be close to him as all of this activity is going to tune I think it's probably 80% change of strategy and 20% change of heart. I think You bring up reinventing himself. I don't think there's any doubt. That's exactly what he's doing I'll give you a different different perspective PBT This is this kind of coming for your world. You say things all the time, outwork, out improve, out strategize,
Starting point is 01:32:25 outlast. This guy's the cockroach of social media. He's going nowhere. He's outlasting. Do you remember in 2021 during COVID, everyone's getting rich. What happened to Facebook? They changed their name to Metta. This guy went from the top 10 richest person in the world to barely top 50. His net worth got slash in half. He was basically on death store. People are like, is this the end of Facebook? 2022, you can look at the stock price 2025. This guy is now not top 10, not top five, the third richest guy in the world at this point. Okay. And who did he give one shout out to was the only name he mentioned in there. Elon Musk. He said, just like they do on X, just like Elon does without
Starting point is 01:33:11 we talked about this before, without Elon buying Twitter and kind of giving accountability to other social media networks, who knows what would be going on out there. But there's a lot of people that didn't fully recognize what he was doing. He's going to have accountability. PBD, you know, once a year PBD maybe gives me a pow pow. Once a year. I would say three to five. Once a year. And I remember the first pow pow I ever got. It was a great pow pow.
Starting point is 01:33:36 We were sitting in the office in Boca. Do you remember? And we were having a conversation. I probably shouldn't bring this up. And we were talking about like Facebook censoring shouldn't bring this up. And we were talking about Facebook censoring or shadow banning and they're aligning with China. I was just a young, naive, hungry little 40 year old man. And I was like, yeah, I don't think,
Starting point is 01:33:56 why would he do that? You wanna do that? You're like, what do you mean? This is what he's doing at Facebook. I go, yeah, I don't see why he would do that. He's like, you can't be that naive. I was like, yeah, I don't, I don't see why he would do that. And he's like, what are you, you can't be that naive. I was like, yeah, I don't think so. What's your point? I was like, I don't, and you got mad at me. He gave me a pop out and made me go sit in the corner. All right.
Starting point is 01:34:14 I never did it again. But the point is this. And then you talked to me. And then we were watching the Jake Paul fight. You're like, come here, sit over here. But the point is there's a lot of people didn't fully recognize and understand what they were doing behind the scenes, what they were doing to affect change Politically socially so there's accountability coming no doubt So you don't have to like them you don't have to trust them But this guy's the third richest guy in the world at this point Facebook is the number one social media most viewed
Starting point is 01:34:37 app in the world and This guy's not going anywhere and shout out to him for reinventing himself. Yeah, we'll see. Again, that's the part about opinions and people get to say, I agree with Vinny. I agree with Adam. I agree with Tom. By the way, manectegize, communicate with them. This is a perfect opportunity. Say, Vinny, I'm with you. Adam, I'm with you. You're wrong, Adam. You're wrong, Tom. You're this. Whatever you have, this is an opportunity to communicate with them as well and exchange your messages with them and see what your opinions are. By the way, you may have certain findings, you share with us.
Starting point is 01:35:08 We may even be sharing it here on the podcast with us, but I appreciate that. Let's go to the next story here. Rap, I think everyone's at the Jimmy Carter funeral right now, if I'm not mistaken. And there's clips being shared. There's a clip I just sent to you that Vinny shared with us as well of Trump and Obama speaking. There's a clip I just sent to you that Vinnie shared with us as well of Trump and Obama And while Trump and Obama are speaking look around of who's sitting around Trump. We're talking Mike Pence Kamala in the front Kamala turns around to see the reaction of Trump and Obama
Starting point is 01:35:38 And you can tell she is not happy about it and they gave Kamala the front row But go ahead and play this clip rock go for it watch this look at Kamala looking back at Obama when Obama whispers to Trump this just happened folks Look at the husband don't look dog em Hoff in what world should Doug Emhoff be sitting in front of Trump and Obama Yeah, I was talking about you. I called you a piece of shit. Yeah, I Got to do a voice over for this Yes, I called you a piece of shit and yeah, I got to do a voiceover for this Yes, I called you a bunch of names but I Can do it. Where's Michelle by the way? I don't see Michelle playing basketball right now. Just dunking on people
Starting point is 01:36:38 By the way, look at Mike Pence right there Right there Mike Everybody's there Let me say something. What's in charge of the seating? I love this. Why? This is incredible. Why? I don't know if they've ever all been in a room together. Have you ever seen them? Yeah, the last funeral of Bush senior with an envelope. Trump showed up. Trump, of course he was there. Trump was there? Yes, Adam. You might want to fact check that. I'm 100% sure. To see Obama and Trump sitting together, honestly, just like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:12 What's up? Listen, you know how many people have been sitting in the Oval Office? Technically 47 people, but some people have done it twice. It's a very rare club. And they're at the funeral for a hundred year old who died apparently six months ago according to Vinny, but he died again now. Jimmy Carter. Yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 01:37:31 I think this is really good for the country. If Obama and Trump can sit next to each other. Voting for Kamala might have killed him though if you think about it. You're saying this is a bad thing? No, no. You're saying this is a bad look for no, I think it's a great look for my thing. Looks aside. No, no, no, no. I was talking shit about him and they were calling him fucking Hitler.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Now you want to sit next to me and be cool. That's and you're saying you think that Trump never said anything bad about Obama. Okay, time. But that's the point. Time. This is America. Let's start from the beautiful thing about America, Vinny. We can disagree. We can say all the most ridiculous stuff about each other. How much do you and I fight? How much? All the time. We don't fight. We have all the debates. But then we'll go have lunch. Have I ever called you Hitler? Have I ever called you Hitler? You called me a gay Jew. No, I didn't. That's what the chat says. I've never called you a gay Jew. I was saying that's what the chat says. But go ahead. The beauty of America is we can squabble and beef and then sit together. Other countries in the world, you know what they'll do? Literal civil war. Yeah. So shout out to grownups, being grownups,
Starting point is 01:38:37 and respecting a president whose funeral. I sent Rob a video. I sent Rob, I sent you this video. So bad when he walks in, Mike Pence stands up, he destroyed everybody, it's like a victory, yeah what's up, I own all of you. He should. He beat all of them. Mike Pence is, is it Karen Pence? What a classless move. Look at Mike Pence's wife.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Al Gore. Yeah, watch this. So Al Gore, stand up dog. We see President-elect Trump now entering the room for this morning's service. Stand up. Yeah, you too, fly head. Al Gore, Mike Pence there. Watch this, look at his wife. His wife. entering the room. Stand up. Yeah, you too. Fly head. Watch this.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Watch this. Look at his wife. His wife. His wife. Nothing. No handshake, no nothing. The hell with her. So where's the class?
Starting point is 01:39:16 You know the kudos who it goes to? Kudos goes to Trump. Because I remember Trump wouldn't show up to these things. Trump wouldn't show up to a lot of these events. Trump didn't show up, I think, to a few funerals, to a couple big events. But Trump, he's playing with house money at this point. I respect Trump for showing up.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Why wouldn't he at this point? Well, Adam, you have to show up. But first of all, the seating. Who was in charge of the seating and was like, you know what, oh yeah, right next to Obama. Not next to Hillary, not next to, where's Joe Biden? Is Joe Biden in the front? Is he going to be speaking? And I get what you're talking about, Adam. A smart person did that.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Okay, guys, Tom, what are your thoughts? Your thoughts. So the tradition and the way it would have been set up here is that Biden and his wife and Kamala Harris, the president, vice president, being the front row, and the prior presidents would be immediately behind. So that's how the seating is set up. I think it's been kind of funny. I remember when Obama, Rob, you made me find this, remember when Obama was sitting next to like the Danish prime minister, he's mugging for pictures, I think they were at Nelson Mandela's funeral, and he was sitting there the Danish prime minister,
Starting point is 01:40:24 and she's kind of, she's very attractive, and he's sitting there today in his prime minister and she's kind of she's very attractive And he's up there took a selfie with her and Michelle there it is look at Michelle Michelle is not having any this She's not like let me show you this Obama's the guy that gets distracted in class and starts talking to friends in the same row That's kind of the way I see this area. But that's also I'm prime Prime Minister of Britain, isn't that David? David Cameron? Look how fired up Michelle Obama is in this picture. Can you play this clip Rob? I'm saying this Obama's done this a lot. I know. And this next clip Rob, if you play, it's when- I'm going to drop off some flowers here. Are you bored? Let's go back smoke a salem. It's when Jill Biden and Kamala are sitting next to each other. And look how friendly they are to each other,
Starting point is 01:41:05 specifically Joe Biden. And you can just tell and see the love and the passion for one another, Rob, if you can make this bigger. So there is Kamala sitting down, you see her face barely right in front of Jill. You got Doug, you got Clinton, you got Bush, you got Obama turning to Laura. But now look at Joe.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Joe has no idea. Joe's like, but now look at Joe Joe's looking at the ice cream machine, but watch this year But watch this Rob. He pointed at the casket and said that's not for me is it? Watch Kamala and Jill go ahead Rob. Body language experts everybody. It would be Democratic presidential nominee And we all know what happened After that yeah again Jill wants nothing to do with her. Between the first couple and the second couple, but again, we are at a funeral, so one has to take that into account.
Starting point is 01:41:53 I gotta go potty. When trying to read the body language of the individuals. By the way, CNN is saying body language. Go again, Rob, keep playing. Go like 15 seconds in. So watch this. Yeah, right there, watch this. First couple and the second couple,
Starting point is 01:42:06 but again, we are at a funeral, so one has to take that into account when trying to read the body language of the individuals there. Okay, pause it at the end picture. Pause it at the end. Do you see Clinton shaking? Pause it all the way at the end.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Right there, pause it right there. Let me ask you, out of all of these people here, Bill, Hillary, George, his wife, Obama, Michelle Missing, Donald, Melania, Biden's, who is disliked the most here? Out of all, great question. Out of everybody? By everyone else? By everyone else, who is disliked the most here?
Starting point is 01:42:45 I think Kamala wins that by a lap. Believe it or not, the fact that she wins that beating Hillary says a lot. Oh, she deserves an award for that. Big time. Hillary's upset about it. Hillary's reading it. Hillary just read a piece of paper said you're number two on the most hated leaderboard. She's like what the fuck? Wait, is that Al Gore's wife behind Bill? No that's Mike Pence. No no on the left. Al Gore got divorced I believe. Who's that on the left? I don't know it doesn't matter. Don't discount whoever's in this room. Trump might be up on the top of the list as far
Starting point is 01:43:20 as dislike the most. He's a winner because he's a winner but my thing is this Adam going to just real fast back to the point, if like, I get it, Trump went after everybody, it was all at the beginning, it was everybody went after him, so he fought back. But the amount of stuff that Obama just recently said about this guy, to be able to sit there, if you don't apologize to me right off the rip, I would have gave him this body language. I would have been like, yo, you're a loser. Vinny, when I tell you what, but here's the question.
Starting point is 01:43:46 You gotta ask yourself. And I'm gonna say it in the most interesting way for you to receive it. So I've done my business plan, and I finalized the three words for me for the year. The three words for me for the year. Every year I choose a word, right? One word is speed, one word is product,
Starting point is 01:44:02 but the last word is signal. Signal. And the reason why I put that word there, signal, I broke down a few different things. You know, and this is very, very important. I'm just going to share this. I don't usually share this publicly. I share part of it, okay? 2025, mentally for 2025, key focus. You are battle tested for me.
Starting point is 01:44:24 I'm saying it to myself but just like video games there are levels to be in battle tested this next one will be a big one if you make it through this next level you will exponentially grow few things you have to embrace which fights to fight which fights to ignore prevent being provoked if you're going to fight fight up not down negative bitter entitled victims with time on their hands will try to get Fights to ignore, prevent being provoked, if you're going to fight, fight up, not down. Negative, bitter, entitled victims with time on their hands will try to get under your skin.
Starting point is 01:44:49 This is their way of getting confirmation and validation. Don't fall for this trap. Mark Twain once said, you can't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. I have learned over the years that people like to verbally hit below the belt. Be self-aware of this. Be like Waterwell. You know the other day I said 18 degrees it was Celsius 64.4 Fahrenheit is what the whole guy that wrote it was about Celsius. So focus on signal instead of noise. One of the toughest things I gave
Starting point is 01:45:20 this message yesterday to one of my companies, we're talking, Maral brought me up and Tikrin, is if you can, if you can, and by the way, very few people ever reach this level of signal versus noise. Very. Signal is, what do I need to focus on to get the job done? What are my duties? Gossip. Oh my God, did you hear the work up? Did you hear that guy got fired?
Starting point is 01:45:45 Did you hear this person did this? Did you, da-da-da-da-da? All that stuff is a little bit of noise, right? And the noise is going to be there. It doesn't mean like, listen, we're a podcast that talks about the different noise that's going on and you try to give your, you know, logical feedback on what's taking place, but you have a lot of noise. Signal is focusing on solutions and improving your life, right?
Starting point is 01:46:04 The fact that Trump can go from noise at the height, every one of these guys at that table have trashed Trump one way or another, behind his back, to his face, backstabbed, starting with Hillary talking about the fact that he was tied to Russia, Mike Pence not having his back after he chose him as a vice president, none of us would have known who Mike Pence is if he doesn't choose him for vice president. And we saw how bad he did at the debate that we were at in every single Republican debate that we went to.
Starting point is 01:46:32 It was embarrassing how bad he was doing, right? Trump almost validated Pence to a different level and his wife doesn't even wanna shake his hand or shake the wife's hand. Melania was standing there to wanna shake hands and you don't do it. Guess what? Signal versus noise.
Starting point is 01:46:46 So when you're saying I wouldn't be able to do it, that's an opportunity of growth. This is what example he's setting. When it comes down to stuff like this, America's more important than our ego. America's more important than our own individual, what do you call it? I can't believe what he said to me. I can't believe what he said to me. No problem. I just know where you stand. It doesn't mean I can't believe what he said to me. I can't believe what he said to me. No problem, I just know where you stand. It doesn't mean I can't sit there
Starting point is 01:47:07 and talk to you about traditions. The traditions came before us. And I absolutely, when I tell you I absolutely love this, I love this, do you know what, when him not showing up to the inauguration, to the, what do you call it, Joe Biden's? That was bitter, that was upset. That was a different Trump.
Starting point is 01:47:25 He was angry, he felt like he had to win. And you know, the whole election interference, whatever they wanna talk about, and maybe he wasn't right when he felt that way. But I love traditions, and I love the fact that this is maintaining tradition. You don't have to agree, the world has to see this, and guess what the world says, look at these guys,
Starting point is 01:47:42 they're all in the same room, okay good. They're in the same room I like seeing this I think this is a very good sign and I think we're seeing a version of Trump we've never seen before and maybe more presidential than ever before and we have to celebrate that and every one of these guys in this room you know what they're thinking look at all of them real quick look at all them real quick do you know what all of them are thinking do you know what they're thinking? Look at all of them real quick. Look at all them real quick. Do you know what all of them are thinking? Do you know why they're upset and angry and they don't want to talk? Because they know. Even though they're all alphas,
Starting point is 01:48:13 they're still as an alpha above all alphas. In this group, Trump is the alpha of alpha. Period. And they know it. You don't have to say anything when you're that guy. It's known. Period. You walk in the room, everybody knows. It has nothing to do with wealth. There can be people that are richer than you, it can be a bigger alpha. There can be somebody that gets things done.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Look at Bloomberg. He's got more money than Trump times 30. But who's the bigger alpha? Trump. It's a very different dynamic when it comes down to leadership. And I actually love this moment. I'm glad that we saw that we can react to it today, so I'm glad the messages that were coming in left and right.
Starting point is 01:48:52 But let's wrap it up with a couple other stories and let's go to the next one here. So next story I want to get into, Rob, which one is the main one? Let's go to this one. This one's actually interesting because I think you also have some thoughts on this time. I know you do as well. Kevin O'Leary says he's nearing deal to buy TikTok as ban looms. Here's what we know. Okay? Here's what we know. So, April 20th, 2024, House passed legislation against, by the way, is this the one with Kevin O'Leary
Starting point is 01:49:21 breaking this down? Tom H? Yes. Okay, why don't you play this clip first and then I'm going to go to Tom and we'll get some commentary. Go for it. That was one topic, but I had another agenda item that was very important to me and we announced that this morning. I have joined with Frank McCourt to buy TikTok and this is a very complicated deal. It's a multi-billion dollar deal.
Starting point is 01:49:39 We're going to have to work with President Trump. This is a bipartisan situation. We have to work initially with Biden, and we want to. And then midday, 12.05, Trump will be who we have to work with to close the deal in the months ahead. So I wanted to let him know, as well as others in his cabinet, that we're're doing this and we're going to need their help. Well that's going to be a very interesting story. I have a timeline here. Let me read the timeline
Starting point is 01:50:13 then Tom I'll come to you. April 20, 2024, House passed legislation against TikTok and a decisive 360 to 58 vote minority leader Hakeem Jeffries stated the bill was designed to address legitimate national security and privacy concerns. Three days later, Senate voted 80-19 to approve the bill. Senate Maria Cantwell, the legislation aimed to prevent foreign adversaries from conducting espionage, surveillance, maligned operations, harming vulnerable Americans, our servicemen and women, and our U.S. government personnel.
Starting point is 01:50:44 Day later, President Joe Biden signed the bill into law, requiring TikTok to be sold or banned. TikTok responded, stating it had invested billions of dollars to keep US safe data, data safe and our platform free from outside influence and manipulation. Month later, May 7th, TikTok filed a lawsuit against the federal government, arguing the ban violated the First Amendment rights of the app
Starting point is 01:51:04 and its American users. Week later, May 14th, eight TikTok users sued the federal government, claiming the ban was unconstitutionally overbroad and infringed on their First Amendment rights. December 6th, 2024, a month ago, the U.S. Court of Appeals for D.C. District denied TikTok's petition to review the law ruling the national security concerns, outweighed TikTok's First Amendment claims. The court also declined TikTok's request to halt the ruling. Ten days later, December 16, TikTok filed an emergency injunction request with the Supreme Court arguing the pause was necessary to create breathing room for this court to conduct an
Starting point is 01:51:42 over orderly review. The CEO of TikTok, Xiao Chu, met with Trump at Mar-a-Lago requesting support for an injunction that was ultimately not granted. Two days later, December 18th, Supreme Court agreed to review TikTok's challenge, schedule and oral arguments for January 10th, which is tomorrow, just days before law's effective date. December 27th, Donald Trump opposed TikTok ban and a court filing, stating he could secure a political resolution
Starting point is 01:52:07 to keep TikTok in the US after his January 20th inauguration if Supreme Court intervenes. January 3rd, the Justice Department asked Supreme Court to uphold the law mandating TikTok's ban or sale, arguing the app hadn't presented sufficient justification for a pause and that Trump's argument lacked visibility. January 6th, Kevin O'Leary told Fox they're planning on buying it. Tom, your thoughts with things going on right now with TikTok?
Starting point is 01:52:30 Yeah, so this all starts and people saw headlines. This is the behind the scenes. This is the deep dive and it's really helpful. So it all started with TikTok is allowing China to get the data and they are sharing the data on US consumers with people That we don't want it shared with and are violating US privacy laws, that's it. So the government Working together from April 20th to 24th
Starting point is 01:52:55 I don't think there was a single bill during the Biden administration that went that quick that in four days It went from vote to vote to desk. Not something that was this divisive. I'm not talking about a negotiated resolution that had been going on for six months. I'm saying from incidents, boom, boom, boom, that quick. So now Trump is asking the Supreme Court, hang on a minute, but the Department of Justice is telling the Supreme Court, no, hang on a minute. This appeal was brought forth by bite dance. So you go tell those guys the law is the law and you need to sell it.
Starting point is 01:53:31 So what's happening is Kevin O'Leary is saying, hey, right now the law is on the books. They say it's going to be that they have to divest and they've got timelines to do it. So I've got another wealthy buyer, Frank McCourt, who once owned the Dodgers until MLB told him he couldn't own them anymore and they conducted an auction. So what is going on? TikTok is in play because someone's going to get to buy it in the US to be in compliant with the law and ByteDance is going to have to let go of it. And then in the US, they're going gonna have to figure about data and everything else and then find out okay now that you own it
Starting point is 01:54:09 Can you confirm there's no data leaking out the back from all of our users? That's gonna be a lot of rebuild and a lot of things I Happen to think that Kevin O'Leary is not the last name you're gonna hear here. I believe My gut and there's been no announcement, but this is how I read the tea leaves. I think Trump is saying, I want to figure something out who right next to Trump is a very large owner of social media. Elon Musk. If Elon Musk then made the move and said, well, maybe I'll buy this and then I'll own both then I'll control then the ad
Starting point is 01:54:46 the the ad cost will go up and They'll probably both be profitable, but now you got one guy own them both and that kind of makes me kind of nervous I like the idea that Kevin O'Leary and a neutral US partner fulfill the law but Kevin O'Leary and Frank McCourt do not have experience with social media and the real issue with this is all the tentacles and all the leaking of US user data out the back.
Starting point is 01:55:11 They would have to shut all that down because that was the point of the law. The servers are in China, the data is going to China, there's surveillance of US citizens in China now. That's why in four days in April people went so quick. But I think there could be another name and that's Elon Musk. And I don't know what kind of experience Kevin O'Leary would like to see Elon Musk who owns X also on TikTok. Do you think that is good for him to own both? I'm going to think in terms of Federal Trade Commission, I'm going to say no, because you have too much power in one space and the ad cost. I am a capitalist, but I'm against
Starting point is 01:55:46 monopolies that then corner just like I'm against China cornering the world market on minerals and using that leverage. I also am against monopolies cornering the market and extending leverage. Yeah, I wouldn't want to see Elon Musk by TikTok, although it is definitely possible. For me, it comes down to one thing. How much do you trust China and the CCP? For me, it's very close to this number I'm holding up right here. Zero. So, you know, in China, they have something called a great firewall, right? It restricts the internet, restricts social media, their citizens can't go on. So, you know, you can probably try to get through with the VPN, but it's very restrictive. Do you know what American apps, social media apps are allowed in China? YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, LinkedIn, even one of the greatest apps ever created called Manect. Do you
Starting point is 01:56:36 know how many that are allowed in China? Zero. So we're going to let this super algorithm super app to let this super algorithm super app owned by bite dance, bite dance, definitely by the CCP infiltrate our youth and just basically indoctrinate them to whatever they want China to our for our kids to be educated on. I don't think so. I'm very uncomfortable with this. Even Charlie Kirk said, maybe I'm actually considering understanding why we should keep tick tock here. Trump is even sort of warming up to the idea.
Starting point is 01:57:09 I don't know. This is a, this is a national security problem that I hope gets rectified. Vinny, your thoughts, Trump, Musk owning both. That's the main question. X and tick tock. I mean, I'm not a big fan of Monopolies when it comes to that my my one thing is anything that China Doesn't have any involvement with it Like you were talking about brainwashing our youth and doing all the crazy stuff that they're doing
Starting point is 01:57:33 I'm all for it, but you know Capitalism and businesses business. It's it is what it is PBT. What are the pros and cons of Elon? Hypothetically acquiring tick-tock or hypothetically acquiring TikTok? Or hypothetically. That's Tom. That's one of Tom's top 10 predictions. I was watching his video yesterday, which I actually thought was very good. But to me, I would say, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:57:56 I don't know if it's something that he will do or not. I think if there's any guy that can handle multiple companies that is running at the same time, by the way, the other day I made a claim about me as a founder working 80 hours a week for God knows how many years. Nobody works 80 hours a week and da da da da da da da da, all this stuff that came out. You know there's a video of Musk, they ask him how many hours a week you're working.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Do you know what his answer was? Have you guys seen this or no? So let me, Tom, have you seen it? I never used to sleep in his office. I've seen it, but I'm not going to say it out loud. Okay, so if you've seen it, let me show this clip to you, Rob. He's being interviewed, and they're asking him about what does your schedule look like right now?
Starting point is 01:58:34 I found it. Oh, is this it, Rob? This is it. What's your schedule look like right now with all the businesses you're running? Look what he says. Go ahead. Yeah, my workload went up from about, I don't know, 70 to eight hours a week to probably 120.
Starting point is 01:58:51 So. By the way, pause it. Yeah. Notice, pause it, audience was laughing. He's not laughing. Just to tell you what 120 is, I've worked 100 hours in a week. Tom, I think we've even worked 110 hours in a week
Starting point is 01:59:07 on some of the weeks, you and I know what weeks these were. 120 in a week, you have 168 total hours in a week. 120 means 48 is left for everything else. 48 divided by seven is seven hours. You're working every day to run all your businesses. This is while he has 10, 11 kids. Go ahead and play the clip-rop. Yeah, I go to sleep, I wake up, I work, go to sleep, wake up, work, do that seven days a week. I'll have to do that for a while. Now watch what he says. Watch what he says here. But I think eventually once
Starting point is 01:59:41 Twitter is set on the right path, I think it is a much easier thing to manage than SpaceX or Tesla so Yeah, what is what once it is Established and systems are in place. It'll be easier to manage than Tesla and SpaceX right so let me finish my thoughts So to me it's if there's a guy that could pull it off, it's him, although he is stretching himself thin. I think there's two things, being able to operate, and then the other side is, the other side is, he may be sitting there and saying,
Starting point is 02:00:15 why do I even need TikTok? I'm building a app for everything. Why do I even need a TikTok? I don't know if I need a TikTok. But then there's the FTC part, which I don't care whoever it is. I don't care who it is. You don't want, I remember one of my guys
Starting point is 02:00:33 in the insurance company, at the beginning stages when I started the company, he was the biggest asshole to me. Biggest. Because the biggest portion of revenue in the business was coming from him. Indirectly, whether you're the most humble person in the world or not, he became so arrogant, so entitled, so much of an asshole that he was unbearable to work with and he was indirectly being a bully. Because he could.
Starting point is 02:01:02 It's like, well, you know, what about this and what about that and what about this? And there's a statement that says, if you wanna test someone's character, give them what? Give them power. No, power, not money. Lincoln said this, if you wanna test someone's character, give them power, okay?
Starting point is 02:01:16 Rob, if you can validate this quote, I think Lincoln said it, watch it be somebody else, but I think it is Lincoln that said, if you wanna test someone's character, give them power. So, what ended up happening happening is when I saw that I? Did whatever I could if you want to test the man's character given power yeah? Lincoln said this so I realized that's not good Because if anybody had too much and then there was other people that that happened to as well a lot of them flirted with that
Starting point is 02:01:43 Power okay, you will flirt if you have that much power. Half the time you're not even aware of it when you're going through this. And it's an element of arrogance, power, and moments that you know you can bully to destroy someone's life. I just don't know if that's a good idea to have one person have that much power with any kind of a business I do think the monopoly law is a good law to have No matter what business it is. So that is one thing that is up for discussion with this taking place Do I think it can happen? I think it can I think if Musk his relationship being close to Trump
Starting point is 02:02:22 Impacted to be able to purchase tick-tock. It is a great move, but this is the part, Tom. Do you think Trump himself would support Musk owning TikTok? At the moment, I think he might. I think longer term, I'm not sure if he would. Because I think the longer term, you to see where this is all gonna go right now There's a lot of people that found ways to use Tik Tok and to make it work for them to make it work in terms of getting out your message grassroots
Starting point is 02:03:01 campaigning in the election also campaigning in the election, also commerce. A lot of people have made TikTok work for them, and guess what? The Trump campaign was one of them. They very strategically and very smartly made TikTok work for them during the election as a campaign tool, and they used it straight up. And by the way, Trump's campaign had to do all this
Starting point is 02:03:24 with people hiding in the background trying to push levers the other way against him. Well, one of the biggest investors in TikTok is an ally of Trump, Tom. One of the biggest investors of TikTok is an ally of Trump. Rob, if you want to pull this up, $2 billion of ownership in TikTok, Trump supporters, something like that if you want to put it in there. So there is a person like that already in there. And as Trump can score two billion dollars, if you type in news, just go to news,
Starting point is 02:03:52 no on the bottom, just go under news, yeah let's see if it comes up. Tech, mobile, something like that. Trump can tap into two billion dollars. No, there's a guy who owns two billion dollars, he invested I believe two billion in TikTok. Hey John. I remember we talked about this.
Starting point is 02:04:08 Yeah. He's in there and he's a player. Rob. Yes. I think his name. Yes. No. No. There's another name. Anyways there is somebody in there. That's a part of that. Pull that up. I just want to revisit one thing with you PBD because maybe I want to understand this. I think a lot of the entrepreneurs out there might be able to learn something here. Everything you just said about power, if you want to test a man's character,
Starting point is 02:04:30 you give them power. Lincoln, there's also another quote, power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. So you did the video about working 80 hour weeks, 100 hour weeks, you said you worked one time. Elon said he worked 120 hour weeks. There's how many hours in a week, 168 hours?
Starting point is 02:04:51 What I would understand is this, when you were working those 100 hour weeks, you're on the come up, right? I mean, even now you're probably working 70, 80 hour weeks. Jennifer said I'm working back to working like PHP because now I'm running eight companies and PHP, yeah. So what I would understand, Elon, richest man in the world, he could literally never work a day in his life, but it's obvious he's not built that way.
Starting point is 02:05:12 What I want to understand is the following. What motivates somebody when they've already reached the pinnacle of the pinnacle of the pinnacle? You know, you're saying there's always levels to things. He's reached the richest man in the world. What else is there to reach? What motivates someone like him or even someone like you to say, no 120 hour weeks, let's go. What is that? It's gotta be a real vision. It's not money. That's what we were talking about three weeks
Starting point is 02:05:37 ago. It's gotta be real vision, not money. And for me, I'm with that. All I'm saying is if I'm the president of United States, okay, which I'm not, I'm a guy that's an operator, business owner, entrepreneur, but if I was, even if it's a guy on your own side, it's not good for business and the economy if one person has way too much control. That's not good for anybody.
Starting point is 02:06:06 It's not. It's not good on the left. It's not good on the right. I wouldn't mind having nine people having control of these companies that are separately or competing against each other, yes. But one, that's never good. Never, it's never good.
Starting point is 02:06:20 When we sold our business and the company said, what are you gonna do? What if we buy the business and one of your big players quits? I said, that's a great question you asked. The biggest organization in our company is only 23% of revenue. The other company that they bought time, you know the other company that they bought, nearly 90% of the revenue of that company was coming from one agency.
Starting point is 02:06:41 You understand what the risk there is? You don't want that. We thought about this for a long time after we got to this point. Anyways, good question, let's follow up. Let's do one fun story here before we wrap up. And you guys can choose which one you wanna do. The Gen Z's being afraid of making phone calls.
Starting point is 02:06:57 The 35 roommates. Or what men will look like in 30 years. Or you wanna do that, let's go through that. Okay, phone calls make Gen Z's anxious. A new college course aims to help them conquer their fears. Alright let's see what this course is and if we need to take it or not. Alright so here we go. Not in camp college in UK is addressing Gen Z's widespread telefonobia. I didn't even know that was something. A fear of making and receiving phone calls by offering coaching sessions. Liz Baxter, career
Starting point is 02:07:28 advisor at college, explains that many young people simply don't have the confidence to use the telephone in symptoms ranging from nausea and muscular tensions to a fear of judgment or humiliation during calls. Practical classroom exercises help students build phone confidence through role-playing scenarios like answering interview questions, calling restaurants to inquire about hours, and contacting stores this is comical. Stores to check inventory, Baxter describes these as bite-sized ways to push boundaries with students reporting anxiety as phone calls feel formal and often associated with emergencies. Adam, we have three minutes but give your side.
Starting point is 02:08:03 Okay. So, you know how every generation they always give the speech of back in my day Back in my day like the old story back in my day used to walk to school Uphill 20 miles and well I used to have no shoes Well back in my day if you wanted to talk to somebody there was no cell phones. There was no DMS You had to pick up the phone. Now let's say hypothetically, you're a 15 year old boy and you want to ask a girl out on a date. Well, there's no DMs, homie. You're not sliding in the DM. There's no, there's no, you got to call the house and she doesn't have a cell phone. You got to call the house
Starting point is 02:08:43 phone. You remember this? You remember this? And here's what happens when you call the house phone. Kelly's not picking up. Kelly's dad's picking up. And he goes, hello? And you're 15, hello? I'll speak to Kelly, please? Who's this?
Starting point is 02:09:11 You want to talk about being scared you want to talk about being nauseous you want to talk about not knowing what to do Call a girl's dad and ask to talk and take her gone on a date You have no idea how easy you have so you have two daughters. They're in the dating age range No one's calling Tom To ask for permission. They're messaging they're texting So that's just a small byproduct of how easy kids have your thoughts and they're scared You're to pick up the phone. Well, I I think what has happened is we Parents aunts uncles have allowed these kids to grow up in a digital generation without human interactions.
Starting point is 02:09:49 Or not without human interaction, but with more limited interaction. And they're sitting there with their head in the phone and they're texting. That's their form of communication. And when they have to have a human to human discussion, and this course really isn't about I'm looking at it, it's kind of funny when they talk about, call a restaurant and ask them what hours are open. Why would I do that? I can just go on Google Maps, click on reviews and see the hours. See?
Starting point is 02:10:13 They don't have interaction with people and they don't have to solve it. And so this is the fault of parents that have allowed that phone to be a digital pacifier. And rather than have your kid having great social skills, you know, I used to, we would go to the airport and I gave Bailey her passport. She had a passport early as soon as she could travel. And I would say, okay, go walk up and tell them where you're going. And she would have a printed out boarding pass. I remember she walks up to the thing. She goes, hi, I'm Bailey Ellsworth and I'm going to mammoth and she hands him the boarding path and I'm standing back Deliberately because I wanted her to do it and be confident talk to people and I remember the TSA guy go
Starting point is 02:10:52 Who are you going with? And she says my dad, but that's my boarding pass. She didn't even look back and say my dad over here She said that's my boarding pass because I told her this what you're gonna say You're very good at that you do that with our boys as well. Because I wanted her to be comfortable, and guess what? The digital pacifier, you lose interaction, so you're losing early the ability to coach people, to ability to have a job where you're gonna be,
Starting point is 02:11:18 oh my gosh, not texting, sitting next to a human being! Yeah, and you know what, you make the point about phones. You know Tico is about to turn 13 years old in three weeks, okay, on the first. And do you know he still doesn't have a phone? He's the only kid. Dylan's 11. Every one of his friends have a phone.
Starting point is 02:11:35 He doesn't have a phone. Sena's eight. Most of her friends have a phone. She doesn't have a phone, okay? When they see people, how you doing? How are you? All this stuff. I was just gonna say that they're the most, like you sit and there's a conversation.
Starting point is 02:11:47 It's not this. But they have you guys around them. Of course. They're having real conversations with you guys. You're helping them out. You're building a relationship with them. He loves being around you. Like I always talk about, folks, if you see Tico and Vinnie together, it's like two grown
Starting point is 02:12:00 men talking to you. They're best friends. He's hilarious. Yeah. He's hilarious. Same maturity level. 100%, he might be a little bit ahead of me. And I will tell you this, you know what? Both arguing over whether Adam's gay.
Starting point is 02:12:10 So it's very... It's true. You never know. By the way, one time I tried to set a good example as a man to let people know that I would never judge Adam and Tom keep bringing it back up. Tom, come on. But I wanna show you guys this.
Starting point is 02:12:23 This whole story, Adam, you know what it made me think about? Here's what it made me think about. It made me think about this progressive commercial. This commercial, I love this commercial. Have you guys ever seen this where he's telling people how to become parents, like what things not to do? Play this clip, it's so cool. Go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 02:12:39 I got into this because I was a sufferer. I turned into my dad, but I came back. We need to silence our phone. Who knows where that button is? I don't have silent. Everyone does right up here. Do you live, laugh, and love? Yes.
Starting point is 02:12:52 The answer is no. I can help the homeowners not become their parents. No fussing, no cussing, and no. Remember, they're not programs. They're TV shows. You woke up early. No one cares. Guess what?
Starting point is 02:13:06 The waiter doesn't need to know your name. You're on, play the other one. Play the other one. It's so stupid that I love it. Progressive commercials are incredible. It reminds me of this story. Watch this next one here with Progressive. They're in the elevator.
Starting point is 02:13:20 This is the next one that he's in the elevator. I don't know if you've seen this one. How old? These are old, huh? These are not newest ones, but they do such a good job. I used to only have progressive. Go and watch this one here. To you, it may just be an elevator.
Starting point is 02:13:31 Here goes nothing. But for a young homeowner becoming their parents, it's a learning opportunity. Come on in. The more the merrier. Paris, huh? Bonjour. We got any out of towners in the elevator?
Starting point is 02:13:43 Tom. It is not easy. 10th floor, huh? Must be a heck of a view. Okay, so you're hoping everyone else is facing this way? Progressive Ken Sadie for becoming a pilot. And Ken Sadie, you're the only one who looks all the way up. Shout out to the marketing department right there.
Starting point is 02:13:57 It's incredible. Anyways, look, I mean, obviously some of this stuff, sometimes you have to teach, you know, young men who maybe didn't have a father figure to do certain things. And I can see why people would be afraid of making phone calls today because all they're doing is texting and DMing and all that stuff. But you know, I'm so glad we grew up in a phase that we talk to people. And as funny as this story is, do you actually give some credence to the story? I do. Do you actually think people are afraid of making phone calls?
Starting point is 02:14:27 I actually think they are. I don't think this is a joke. I think this is a real thing. I don't know if they need a class for it, but it is what it is. Gang, I just want to tell you guys, it's fantastic because we're almost at $50,000 that we're going to give to families in California. I love the fact that you guys are doing this. I hope this sits a quarter of a million dollars for us to send a check to people in California
Starting point is 02:14:51 to help them out at a time that they need help. And if you have any stories, send us emails. If you have anyone that's directly impacted, info at VT.com, send us a story. This morning you talked about this, XYZ, here's a family, here's this, here's that, and we will obviously process them. We're not going to be able to get to everybody, but we're going to do our part to try to contribute in the smallest ways possible on how we do this. Tom and I, VP of Finance right now, are working to see how we're going to make this happen.
Starting point is 02:15:19 I think that hat is already sold out. Chris just texted me saying it is, it is sold out. But everything else, anything else you purchase there, the backpacks, the shirt that I have on, I wear this polo shirt three times a week. I wear this. Some of you guys, go sport the gear, go whatever you have, place your orders. We will give 100% of today's, anything we make today, not just net, gross revenue, we'll go to families in California.
Starting point is 02:15:46 We love you guys, we appreciate you guys, we will do this again next week. We do have a lot of other podcasts that are coming up and Chase Hughes is going to come out tomorrow. Very, very interesting interview with Chase Hughes. I had a fellow that came in here from California yesterday, late at night we finished the podcast. He was a man that lived on Skid Row for seven years, okay? A homeless man who used fentanyl, who used meth, who used heroin, whose parents, a mother died at 14 years old from heroin, who broke down the different charities with all the money, which ones work, which ones
Starting point is 02:16:17 don't, cry help, all of these different things that we went through. I want to find out how to address a homeless situation. That podcast is I think going out sometime next week. Wes Huff, the gentleman that debated went through, I want to find out how to address the homeless situation. That podcast is I think going out sometime next week. Wes Huff, the gentleman that debated Billy Carson came here with the fellow that hosted the podcast with Wes Huff. The interview that just went out with Rogan, phenomenal. Wes came here as well. His podcast goes out on Monday morning.
Starting point is 02:16:39 And then we have a few other surprises that I will not be disclosing, but I may be doing a surprise podcast on Saturday morning, 9 a.m. If this happens, you'll find out what it is. And it's a very current topic that a lot of people have questions for him, and we can't wait to have that conversation with him on Saturday. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye-bye.

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