PBD Podcast - “Catastrophic World Events” - Randall Carlson: Freemasons, Extinction Events & Planetary Defense | PBD Podcast | Ep. 466

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

Randall Carlson, a master of ancient mysteries, joins Patrick Bet-David for an eye-opening discussion on the past and future of humanity. Carlson sheds light on suppressed knowledge from Freemasonry..., the threat of mass extinction events, and cataclysmic climate shifts that have shaped the Earth’s history. From the mysteries of Atlantis to the planetary defense strategies we need today, Carlson offers a fresh, provocative perspective that challenges mainstream science and history. ------ 📺 FOLLOW RANDALL CARLSON'S RUMBLE CHANNEL: https://bit.ly/4ggAnGK 📺 SUBSCRIBE TO RANDALL'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL: https://bit.ly/4g9h9T7 📰 CHECK OUT RANDALLCARLSON.COM: https://bit.ly/3XciEYg 🎟️ TRUMP VS HARRIS DEBATE WATCH PARTY: ⁠https://bit.ly/3X3sPOs⁠ 👕 VT "2024 ELECTION COLLECTION":⁠⁠ https://bit.ly/3T98czn⁠⁠ 📕 PRE-ORDER PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://amzn.to/4e2zXBT 🇺🇸 VT "TEAM USA" GEAR: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bit.ly/4cwKbJp⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎟️ MINNECT LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIPS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bit.ly/4aMAar8⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🏦 THE VAULT 2024: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bit.ly/3WQYZN7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N⁠⁠⁠ 📱 MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bit.ly/3T0AX15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📕 CHOOSE YOUR ENEMIES WISELY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bit.ly/3ST1rS8⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bit.ly/3X8s7kq⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📰 VT.COM: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bit.ly/4duVS4u⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bit.ly/4dpzyJE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:47 And that's when I discovered that science had no answer. Your interest with carpentry, how do you get recruited to Freemasonry? How does that process take place? I've never seen a dark side. I don't know what, you know, there's claims that are just, to me, just total nonsense. You know, here's the thing, Freemasonry was suppressed for centuries. Now,
Starting point is 00:01:10 propaganda is everywhere, it's prevalent. And it's all pretty much leading us to the mindset of accepting this authoritarian, hierarchical structure of society. The largest underwater explosion ever recorded by modern instruments. We cover a lot of different issues. Rob, do you remember this at all? I don't. That's a pretty big deal for something like that to take place. Absolutely, and I think it was deliberately downplayed. Once in a while the Sun throws off these gigantic blobs of plasma into space and does it frequently, it would take down pretty much the electronic grid of the planet. What does the average person not know that's going on?
Starting point is 00:01:45 An awful lot. I was going to do a presentation to Space Force talking about planetary defense. How easily could a millennia of human progress get lost in the noise of 200,000 years? You had giant camels, you had ground sloths the size of elephants today, but they all had one thing in common, and that was their belief that there had been this great flood. I came prepared to show you today that the legends of gigantic, world-destroying floods are based on real events that we can now prove overwhelmingly, because nobody had the perspective to decipher it until now All right, it's great to finally have you here.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Well, it's great to be here, Pat. Yeah, I've been looking forward to this for a while. So with the stuff you talk about, sometimes I sit down and I'm like, all the information that's in your mind and your brain, you read, I mean, we're just sitting here talking about, you know, your wife, Ph.D., Middle Eastern Studies, and what you used to study with her, you know, all this information that's in there, what keeps you up at night? What do you think about at night?
Starting point is 00:03:29 What do I think of? Well, I have to say right off the bat, not to start off on a negative perspective, I do concern about the direction of America. I'd like to see us turn a corner here and get back to some of the original values that this country was founded on. But I do have the problem sometimes sleeping because I can't turn my brain off. You can't turn your brain off. And what's your method of going to sleep?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Now since I've kind of pulled back from my day job, I just go until I drop. And then I fall asleep typically at 1 or 2 a.m. What time do you wake up? Oh, 9 o'clock. Are you reading like non-stop or no? No, I'm, well I read a lot. I mean I read a lot of science papers, I read books on history, on science, the areas of science I'm interested in.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I'm a college dropout, but I was majoring in geology, I studied mathematics, history, astronomy, things like that. And I kind of, you know, I had a company going at the time and so that was just really taking off. And then my younger brother showed up here and so I started, we decided to expand our business. We're third-generation carpenter builders. Our father was a house builder, carpenter, master carpenter. His dad, from Sweden, he was a master carpenter. So we came up in the trades.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I did not, wasn't planning to start out becoming a carpenter, but I got into my early 20s, excuse me, and then I decided, well, I probably need to find something to earn a living that's legal. So I kind of fell back on my old skills that I had learned as a teenager and decided that I'd worked a lot of different jobs. And I like being outside. I like being my own boss.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And I thought, I can do this for a while. And then as I got into it, the more I got into it, the more I began to really love the craft. And it was challenging. The craft of what? Of being a geomathologist? No, the craft of being a carpenter. Carpenter? Okay, got it. Because you know, you think of a carpenter, you know, you picture somebody out there nailing subfloor or whatever with a pneumatic power nailer. And it's way more than that.
Starting point is 00:05:45 And when you go back into some of the older skill sets, you know, previous generations, I mean, what some of these guys were doing was amazing. You know, you go back and like, for example, you look at some of the geometry in a church steeple, right? Or you, and if you want to go back six, seven, 800 years to like the Gothic cathedrals, you know, it all, it depended on carpentry work because you cannot build a stone vault without having forming. And that was all the carpenters. And the thing is, is you see
Starting point is 00:06:13 the masonry work but you don't see the carpentry work after because once the masonry is up and set, all of the scaffolding and form work comes down, right? So you don't appreciate how incredibly complex some of these ancient carpentry skills were. I noticed, my drill sergeant in the army, who was a leader amongst leaders, tough guy, but we all respected, he was a Freemason 32nd degree himself, drill sergeant, first sergeant ward, and he knew how to get all these big personality guys and we used to sit there and listen to me, he was a leader.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I noticed you're also a 32nd degree Freemason, if I'm not mistaken. I went through the degrees of the Scottish Rite. Now this is going back into the 19, well yeah, this would have been in the 1980s. I've not been an active Scottish Rite Mason. So when's the last time you were active with, you know, Freemason? Just before COVID. Just before COVID? Yeah, well, I stayed active in what's called the Blue Lodge.
Starting point is 00:07:13 The Blue Lodge is sort of the core of the whole system of Freemasonry. And that's where you go through the apprentice degree, the craftsman degree, and the master's degree. You have to get that third degree under your belt and then you've got the metaphor that I would use to describe it is you're entering this big temple or hall and you've got this vestibule or outer court and it takes three steps to get up into that outer court. That's the Blue Lodge. Once you've gone in there and you've mastered that, now there's about four or five other doors that you can access, that lead you into these realms of deeper study and ritual and ceremony
Starting point is 00:07:50 and all, which is the way the method and the knowledge is preserved and inculcated is primarily through ceremony. R.S. Now, the highest degree is 33rd, if I'm not mistaken, right? So 32nd degree is, for someone to become a 32nd degree with Freemason, what does it take? How many years does it take to get there? It doesn't, well, it's changed. It's become a lot easier from what it used to be. Tell me about the difficult days, like what it was before to become one. Oh, it took years. It took years. Now, I went through the stages,
Starting point is 00:08:26 I became master of a Blue Lodge. And generally that takes seven years. And you start out and you go from what's called a junior steward to senior steward, junior deacon to senior deacon, junior warden to senior warden, and then finally you're in the master's chair and it sits in the east.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I did it in six years because somebody ahead of me in the lineup dropped out, so I kind of leapfrogged over one of the stations. But I wanted to do that because there was so much content and so much in those first three, and they're the core of everything that follows. Now you started off, the reason why I asked the question, because you're like the carpentry and then you said the masonry work, and then math, and to me, like I remember, when I'm on the Freemason side, you're a lot about geometry. Yes. So, as you were advancing, I've had a lot of friends that were Scientologists, and it
Starting point is 00:09:21 was always about the next one, and the next one, and the next one, and the next one, and it was always opening a new level of thing or course one, and the next one, and the next one, and the next one. It was always opening a new level of thing or course or something they're going to be learning, right? What was, as you advanced, what things were you learning where you were like, I never knew about this, that's fascinating, and boom, and boom, that's very interesting. What was it that kept you wanting to learn more? What were you learning at each level? Dr. Seifert Well, because I began to realize that it had applications to many facets of life, and I was just, you know, I was incessantly curious, and so I discovered, you know, that there was
Starting point is 00:09:53 geometry. For example, that's the letter G in Freemasonry, geometry. Is it geometry or is it Genesis? Genesis creation or is it geometry? Geometry. Okay. Geometry. And you see the symbol is a compass which you draw circles with in a square, the compass is in a square, those are the two instruments of geometry. So you've got those juxtaposed and then you've got the G in the center, sometimes you've got the all-seeing eye, but it's usually the G and that stands for geometry. And in the early 70s, I was, you know, exploring different spiritual paths, and I met up, I
Starting point is 00:10:27 was studying under a Brahmin priest at the time, and I was very interested in ritual and how ritual was a vehicle for perpetuating information and knowledge. Okay, so I was learning Brahmin rituals from this guy, and he had a swami that he was studying under. So through this doctor of Sanskrit, he was a professor of Sanskrit, but he was also a Brahmin priest, and through him I was connected with this Himalayan swami. And we did a retreat in northern Minnesota, the Northwoods of Minnesota, back in 1971 and again in 1972. And in 1972, this group had grown around this guy and we decided to do a retreat. And we needed an assembly building and we needed a place for the Swami to stay. So there was an architect in the group and he designed two, you remember
Starting point is 00:11:19 the geodesic domes, the Buckminster Fuller domes, there were real people who were building those things back in the day. It fell out of popularity because they always leaked. It was hard to keep them from leaking and they were kind of impractical. Yeah, let's see. Somewhere online there's even pictures of the ones that... So my brothers and I, we got sort of drafted because we had the most carpentry experience in the group. And I remember one of the domes was designed on the geometry of an Islamic mosque. And just I remember figuring that out and yeah, trying to learn some of the geometry. Let's see. Yeah, so one of them actually had a dome on it. It was actually designed like a dome
Starting point is 00:12:02 and then it came to a spire at the top. Kind of along the lines what you're seeing right there. Okay. Anyways, it was very challenging but fun to figure out the geometry. This is 1972, summer of 1972. And then they... So this fellow you're working with, he's not a Freemason. You're just learning about the stuff, or he is a Freemason. No. He's not. He's not. So you just learning about this stuff, or he is a Freemason. No. He's not. He's not. So you're just at this point interested in this, you're fascinated by this, with this gentleman that's, you know, kind of mentoring you and walking you through this.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yeah, well, there was the architect who designed them, and then we had to figure out how to build them. And so it's all triangles that are fitted together, and it's all geometry. So that's kind of where my fascination with geometry really took root. Then one of the domes, the one that was the with the spire on top, that was featured in a national publication called Shelter. Big format like this and we got a whole page devoted to that. And then in that, it was basically about how different cultures and different peoples, indigenous peoples and so on, how they solve the problem of existing in their environment through architecture.
Starting point is 00:13:18 So it was everything from like a yurt, something as simple as a yurt, all the way up to a Gothic cathedral and everything in between. And so I, is that the shelter right there that Rob has got? Let's see. Let's see, no, that's not the one. But there is a publication out there. They reprinted it fairly recently. Rob, if you put in shelter, maybe book,
Starting point is 00:13:44 that's all it's called, is shelter. Anyways we were featured in there and that's it right there. That's it, that's the one. Yeah, so we're in that and one of the domes that we built is in there. I don't remember what page it was on, but if there's an index it's called the Bindu Dome. Bindu Dome. So I acquired, because of the fact that our project was featured in there, I acquired that book and it was filled with, there it is. That's it. That's, yeah, if you zoom in,
Starting point is 00:14:20 let's see. Yeah, that's the whole design. So see, me and my brother figured out how to frame that thing in wood, and if you look at the picture up there immediately to the left of that, the guy standing up there with the nail apron, there's two of them. That's my younger brother right there. He's my business, that guy right there. That's Rowan, my younger brother, and he and I are partners right now, and have been partners. And you guys built this? Yeah, well we were lead carpenters. Okay, and when you first built this, was this like a big deal that nobody could pull off at the time?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Pretty much, yeah. Okay. Pretty much, yeah. So, your interest with carpentry, how do you get recruited to Freemason? Like, how does that process take place? Well, because as I started studying into the history of building and architecture, I kept seeing over and over again Freemasons and their involvement. That's what led to it. And then by 1978, I was really curious about it, and I also discovered there was a lot
Starting point is 00:15:16 of spiritual symbolism and things like that involved that like added this whole other dimension to it. And then just right around the time I met my wife, in fact, where she was living, her next door neighbor was a Freemason. And so I got to know him and he introduced me to a buddy of his who was writing a book at the time who was also a Freemason. And one of the criteria to become a Mason is you have to have two Masons in good standing vouch for you and then they sign your petition. You have to make, and I'll mention it, Freemasons are not permitted to solicit.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You don't do that because the impetus has to come from the candidate. So in other words, if you're interested in becoming a Freemason, you find... You have to go. You have to seek them out. Got it. Interesting. Yeah. Very interesting. So it's not like anything else where somebody, you know, disciples and invites you and there's an invitation or calling or anything like that. If you're interested,
Starting point is 00:16:18 you'll find it. Yeah. So, okay. So why do you think, I mean, when you look at the history of people that when they became presidents, the Freemasons, George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Monroe, LBJ, FDR, Buchanan, Garfield, Teddy Roosevelt, Taft, Harding, Ford, even the honorary, you got Reagan, even Clinton when he was a kid, he was part of a Freemason, you know, certain program. The D-Volay.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Right, he was part of a Freemason, you know, certain pro- The Devalet. Right, he was part of that. Why do you think so many presidents, pre, can go Gerald Ford? What was the advantage that they had? What did they teach you there that helped you become a president? I would say that, I will also mention LBJ never went past the apprentice degree. He never made it to Maryland. Who was the highest ranking out of all of these presidents, by the way? Who made it to 33? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I did know that once upon a time, and I don't remember the names right offhand. But yeah, if you count up, I think there were, you know, it's controversial whether Jefferson was. I think he probably was. I think he was initiated under the Grand Lodge of France when he was in France. But then the Revolution, the French Revolution came along and it was so all the records were destroyed. So there's no proof
Starting point is 00:17:25 that he was a Freemason. However, I've read a lot of Jefferson's work and there are certain very idiomatic, idiosyncratic, I'll say, turns of speech and things that are in the ceremonies that are recognizable to other Freemasons. And some of those have showed up in some of his writings that I've read, which leads me to suspect that he was an initiate in the craft. But in other words, by my accounts there were about 14 presidents who were Freemasons. And the last one who was a full Master Mason was Gerald Ford. Really, Gerald Ford was a Master Mason. Interesting. Yes, let's see. He was...
Starting point is 00:18:06 33rd degree. Yes. Yeah, there he is. He was... there's nobody after Ford. Is there anybody showing? No. No. It's just honorary. Reagan was an honorary. But what is the advantage? What is the edge that you get when you're in it that helps you become a president. I mean, it's not like... Well, it's a method of mental and mind cultivation, mind development, and it also requires, I'm sure very much like the military, it requires discipline, focused discipline and dedication to goals. So you kind of, you learn that. You learn that, you know, this discipline, if you become a master, like I said, it takes a lot of work to become a high ranking mason. And so to get to that stage, you've had to cultivate self-discipline and also the whole
Starting point is 00:18:55 the mental training is extremely powerful and valuable. And that was one of the things that I really got out of it was, you know, I went and I guess the only the longest thing I'd ever memorized of it was, I went and I guess the longest thing I'd ever memorized was the Gettysburg Address by Lincoln. But then when I get into Freemasonry, the way it works is, think of it this way, think of it as a play with actors and all of the officers like say in the Blue Lodge are actors, right? So you go in and you're a candidate and it's like you're participating in a mystery play, a
Starting point is 00:19:27 drama. And of course you don't know what's going on, so you're just passively led through the whole thing, but then you have to go through the series of rigorous tests to show that you've learned. So think of it this way. If you go into the Blue Lodge, there's a whole series you've got in what's called the Entered Apprentice degree, the Fellowcraft degree, and then the Master's degree. Each one of those has what's called a catechism. And what the catechism does is a series of questions and answers that guide you through everything that you did in this ritual. Now the ritual, think of it as a play in three acts with say seven actors and then the candidate. So there would be a total of eight, right? And then what happens is you're led in, you go through act one of
Starting point is 00:20:13 the play, and then you have to learn this catechism and master it to a pretty high degree of proficiency. And what that is, it's like the equivalent of learning the parts, the key parts of the actors in the play. And as you go through,'s like the equivalent of learning the parts, the key parts of the actors in the play. And as you go through, the way the system is set up, it's quite ingenious. When I became an officer in the lodge, I went into what's called the junior steward, which is the lowest officer. You don't have a lot to do, but you go to the, and you see the degree work as it's
Starting point is 00:20:42 called, and it's like you're watching the play over and over again. Then the second year when you move up to senior steward, now you become a more active participant in the play. But you've had a whole year where you've been watching it and absorbing it and learning it. And then each degree you add to what you previously learned. So by the time you've got to the to the master of
Starting point is 00:21:06 the lodge, you're sitting in the east. Masters always sit in the east. They control the lodge with a gavel. And so at that point now you've learned pretty much not only the part of the master and the east, you know all the other parts. It's like being in a play and not only knowing your own part, but knowing the parts of all the other actors. So it might take you two hours. When I was in the East, it would typically take us, like if we were going to do an initiation or a degree work, it would typically take us about two hours. Is there a dark side to this secret society or no? I've never seen a dark side. I don't know what, you know, there's claims that are just, to me,
Starting point is 00:21:52 just total nonsense. You know, here's the thing. When you had, you know, at its peak, there was like five million Masons in America. This is in probably in post-World War II into the 50s and all of that before television and you know certainly before the internet and all of that but you know you get something that big with that many members you're gonna find you know not everybody's gonna be a sterling individual just like any organization you know that yeah now I point out, well, there was 14 presidents that were Freemasons. That's a lot of power. That's a lot of power.
Starting point is 00:22:33 So for me, here's what I'd be curious with. So 14 have become presidents. By the way, I looked at what other 33rd degree they had. It's between Ford and Truman. Truman was also a 33rd degree. I would believe that, yeah. And is there an element of unity where Freemasons defend each other, back each other up, and help them move to the higher rankings of different industries? Is that a part of a vision that's privately discussed?
Starting point is 00:23:02 Let me put it this way. If you've got somebody who's been through the ranks of free mates, just like if you had a buddy from the military, and you knew that they were disciplined, that they could get the job done, that they had proven themselves, you would definitely be inclined to hire them, or to partner with them or whatever. Because you've already seen that somewhere
Starting point is 00:23:27 within the social sphere they have proven themselves. It's really very much like that. If you had worked in a corporation, if you had started a corporation with somebody and you had built it up and you knew their work ethic and you knew their discipline and you knew that they were, had let's say extracur activities, such as being involved with charitable organizations.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Now, Freemasonry, I should mention, I haven't seen the latest statistics before COVID. A lot of the older lodges went under during COVID. But you go back a decade, a couple of decades ago, and on average, Freemasons were raising a million dollars a day for charitable and mostly going towards college. You ever heard of the Scottish Rite Hospital for crippled and burned children? Yeah, I mean that's totally a Masonic charity. They have iBanks for children, they have children's homes if you've got children that do not have
Starting point is 00:24:23 parents or whatever. I mean our lodge We would regularly three to four times a year. We would have Fundraising that all went to charity. We have there's the Masonic home in Macon, Georgia And I've met some fine young men and women that have hit were raised in that in that environment Who are now themselves freemasons and helping to raise money. But yeah, it's a huge charitable organization. And a lot of people are surprised. You showed us looking surprised on your face
Starting point is 00:24:56 because it's not really known. They don't advertise that. No, that's, again, for me, the guys I met that were high ranking, when I spoke to them, it was a lot of depth. I'm a math guy, I'm interested in math, I'm interested in strategy, and they were interested in architecture.
Starting point is 00:25:12 But for me, it's a community you're in that helps you move up in life. By the way, what do you know about the, is it the Quator Coronati Lodge number 2076? What do you know about that? Do you know anything about that? Not a lot. I mean, I think they were a research lodge, if my memory serves me correctly, a research lodge. It did a lot of publication writings and things on some of the deeper mysteries of the craft, because there is a lot of depth to the whole system. The symbolism, when you start unpacking it, pertains to every aspect of life. R.C. Do you yourself, like even today, like for me, one of the things I want to ask you about,
Starting point is 00:25:54 you go to Smithsonian, right, and you wonder who controls history. Today I'm having lunch with a very respectful Assyrian lady who has done, I'm Assyrian, I'm Armenian, and she came to me because there's a meeting going on they want me to be part of, no problem, I'm honored by it, but I'm talking to her. And she's gone around the country talking to a lot of people that slowly but surely are eliminating all the findings and all the inventions that Assyrians had. So they're losing credit.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Other people are taking credit for what's going on, that is her mission what she's working on right so you wonder like some of the people that control history What do they do with it so then for me it goes down to are there secret societies that have the type of influence and pull That can rewrite history and gaslight us if we want to and how do you feel about other secret societies? You when we hear about skull and bones when we hear about Illuminati we hear about what do you feel about other secret societies? When we hear about skull and bones, when we hear about Illuminati, we hear about... What do you think about these guys? Okay, so skull and bones, I mean, I know that that's a... I don't know much about that. A lot of people get skull and bones. They think if you're skull and bones, you're automatically Freemason, which is not the case. They're really completely separate. I think skullull and Bones wasn't that Yale University graduates pretty much. They may have adapted some quasi-Masonic stuff because as far as secret societies, you have to bear in mind that during some of the post-Middle Ages, during the time of like various
Starting point is 00:27:19 religious suppressions and so on, I mean, to be a known Freemason was essentially a death sentence. Freemasonry was suppressed for centuries. After the decline of the Gothic building period in the late 1200s and early 1300s, there was a shift. The lodges back then were called operative because they actually built things. But what happened was you had this major climate shift, late 1200s, early 1300s. What made the Gothic cathedral building era possible? And I don't know if you've toured ever, toured some of the big magnificent cathedrals like Chartres, Amiens, Reims, Notre Dame, put it on your list, it's worth doing. So what happened was we had about 300 years of warm climate, abundant agriculture that came after the Dark Ages.
Starting point is 00:28:12 And the Dark Ages were a time of deterioration of society. It was very cold. The Dark Ages were essentially launched around in the 500s. And it was some of the coldest weather of the last 2000 years was, say, between 536. They say 536, the paleoclimatologists say, that might have been like the coldest year of the last 2000 years. Anyways, you had like 300 years of really, you know, bad climate. And then that ameliorated in the 900s, the planet warmed up, that was when the Scandinavians were colonizing Greenland and farming where it's now permafrost. And
Starting point is 00:28:58 you had this long growing season, you had abundant crops, people were well fed, and you see between 950 say and 1050 to 1100 the population of Europe expanded enormously, people's lifespans expanded, infant mortality went down, even the stature of people during that medieval warm period increased by like four inches on average. Well as a result of social- Stature increased four inches on average. Well, as a result of... Stature increased four inches. About that, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Because, like, it took a few generations, but, I mean, look at how much the, over the last two or three generations, the Japanese have grown. They used to be considered, I don't want to be racist here, but they were, their stature, they were short. But now, you know, I don't know what happened with the Japanese, but their average stature has increased considerably in the last few, Rob could probably find a statistic on that. But my point is this, society got wealthy, and because of that wealth, they were able to undertake this tremendous enterprise of cathedral building. And then in the early 1300s, the climate flipped again and it got
Starting point is 00:30:11 cold and it started the Little Ice Age and in the between like 1312, 1314 and 1330, right in there 1340, you had a whole series of very bad years where you had agricultural failures. This led to people being hungry, it led to famine. Famine caused people to be malnourished, their immune systems got weakened, and then in the 1340s you had the bubonic plague. And that was the end, for the most part, of the cathedral building era. Rob, can you pull up the link I just sent you? Very interesting what he's saying about the Japanese and the Vietnamese. It's a great famine of...
Starting point is 00:30:48 No, Rob, can you pull up the link I just sent you? If you just go on Google and you type in, has height of Japanese increased? Just type that. Has height of Japanese increased? And then if you go to the first one right there that comes up, right there, if you can zoom in right there, whatever you have, specifically in the 50s, the average height of Japanese men and women was 1.5 meters and 1.49 meters, respectively 4 centimeters shorter than Vietnamese at the time.
Starting point is 00:31:19 However, more than 50 years later, by 2021, height of Japanese men and women is 1.72 and 1.58, respectively, amongst highest in Asia. Interesting. Yeah, so that's what happened in the Middle Ages. And even more back then, probably. I don't remember the exact numbers, but it was part of that, it was symptomatic of just the general, you know, improvement of society that occurred at the time. Is this food, nutrition? Yes, I think that's the primary factor. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:50 So because of this wealth and people having leisure time and this increase, it was a considerable increase in population in Europe, that provided the environmental context that made the great Gothic cathedral building era possible, which lasted from about 1130 to about 1300. That was the peak right in there. And then it declined rapidly after that.
Starting point is 00:32:16 And when the bubonic plague swept over Europe, you might look that up, Rob, to give us the exact years. I think it was around 1340, give or take a decade. That pretty much brought the whole enterprise to an end. 1346 to 1353, yeah. Dr. Ewan Birkey So it was the most fatal pandemics in human history, as many as 50 million perished, perhaps 50% of Europe's 14th century population. Dr. John B. Bolling Yeah, so there was no more, you didn't have the labor pool.
Starting point is 00:32:47 You didn't have people to quarry the stones, to carve the stones, to do the stained glass windows. You didn't have the carpenters to build, because, I mean, imagine if half the population goes down, the other half is struggling to survive. So that was pretty much the end of that, what I would call, what has been called the operative dimension of Freemasonry. But they had all of this knowledge that was, you know, of geometry, astronomy, engineering, symbology. In order to preserve
Starting point is 00:33:22 that knowledge, they became philosophical or Sometimes the term is speculative and so it's like a rebranding that they were going to look at it That was like a rebranding got it now You don't have to actually be out there slinging a trowel You don't have to actually be building formwork or any of that Because we're gonna codify all of this information into this system to perpetuate it for whatever point it's going to be valuable in the future. So at this era that you're talking about, the reputation for Freemasons is now better
Starting point is 00:33:54 versus what it used to be before. Well yeah, so well then it went underground. So, you know, then, you know, we went into, as we go into the Little Ice Age, there was a period there where you had this rise of superstition and, you know, like a lot of the witch-burning pogroms were directly connected with inclement weather. You know, there would be a cold spell or a hail storm and then the priests were blaming that upon the witches. So in order to try to rectify the bad weather of the 14, 15, 16 hundreds and so on, they were burning women at the stake. And they were also killing Freemasons.
Starting point is 00:34:47 If you were a Freemason, you would be, perhaps your life would be in danger. What year is this? Oh, this would be from 1400s, right down to the early 1700s. And then what happened was, as society became more liberal and more open to science and all this, right on the heels of the scientific enlightenment, which you would call in the
Starting point is 00:35:09 Renaissance. In 1717, you had three lodges in the United Kingdom, in the British Isles, that sort of in a sense went public. They joined forces, they formed what is now still to this day the Grand Lodge of Britain. I think it was 1717. Grand Lodge of Britain, pretty sure that was the year. And then it's been pretty much, you know, it's been open since then. But the secrecy, yeah, what's the year up there? 1717. Okay, that was the year. So they consolidated these separate lodges that had existed in secret in order to preserve themselves. So then they joined forces 1717 and became the Grand Lodge of
Starting point is 00:36:01 Britain, which charters most of the Masonic lodges around the world. And there was also, interestingly out of the Crusades, you might be, and I'm a little bit rusty on the specifics of this, but there was a whole branch of Freemasonry practiced under Islam, under Sufism. And I did study that back in the old days, when I was first learning. Idria Shah was one of the researchers
Starting point is 00:36:32 who looked at the correlations between Freemasonry and Sufism. And there are some very striking correlations in terms of the symbolism, the ritualism, the practices and all of that, which suggests that perhaps back in the Middle Ages, when all of this was starting to fall apart because of the plague and all of that, there was probably an eastern branch and a western branch.
Starting point is 00:36:57 The eastern branch you would have found around, you know, from Anatolia around probably Iraq, Iran, Iran, that whole area in the Middle East. I think there was probably a whole branch of it at that time. Okay, Order of the Eastern Star, that's the Order of the Eastern Star. Now that's primarily for women, female relatives of active masons. The collab that you always wanted is finally here, Tim's and Nutella. It's time to enjoy Nutella in a new way with your favorite Tim's baked goods and beverages. Try them all today at participating restaurants in Canada for a limited time.
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Starting point is 00:38:23 Play this clip and look at the reaction and how the discomfort of explaining. Go ahead Rob. Both in Skull and Bones, the secret society. It's so secret we can't talk about it. What does that mean for America? The conspiracy theorists are going to go watch. I'm sure they are. I don't know. I haven't seen the rest of it. Number 322? First of all, he's not the nominee.
Starting point is 00:38:46 And, uh, but, uh... Look, I look forward to it. Are you prepared to lose? No, I'm not going to lose. You both were members of Spell and Bones, a secret society at Yale. What does that tell us? Uh, not much, because it's a secret. Is there a secret handshake?
Starting point is 00:39:02 Is there a secret code? I wish there were something secret I could manifest. 322? A secret number? There are all kinds of secrets, Tim, but one thing is not a secret. I disagree with this president's direction that he's taking the country. We can do a better job than I intend to do it. And we'll be watching. Be safe on the campaign trail. John Kerry, thanks for joining us. And we'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:39:21 So, he's asking both of the candidates the same question about 322, you know, skull and bones. There isn't that vibe today with Freemasonry, right? It's not like people are hiding it today or uncomfortable with it. There are those, you know, who take conspiracy theories and there are real conspiracy theories in history. But you know, there are those out there who are you know blaming Freemasonry for Everything that's going on and that's complete BS. It's just nonsense That's my opinion and I would challenge anybody okay name some names You know look at you know the World Economic Forum look at the you know any anybody in the Biden administration That's a free...name one, just name one.
Starting point is 00:40:06 You know, the Atlantic Council, the Trilateral Commission, go through there and just tell me some names and show me what lodges they were raised in, you know, because that's what's missing from all the conspiracy theories, is anything specific. Why do you think Freemasonry stopped after Ford? Why did it stop after Ford? Well, it...I would just think that there was, you know, just a different generation. I mean, after Ford, then Carter became president. He was not a Freemason. He was a member of the, you know, he was a Southern Baptist, but he was not a Freemason. And then, you know, like you said, then after Carter, it was Reagan, and he was made an honorary Freemasonry and then, like you said, then after Carter it was Reagan and he was made
Starting point is 00:40:45 an honorary Freemason, but he never actually went through the degrees. And then George H.W. Bush, he was not a Freemason. I think it just, it was because it was a very prominent organization from the founding of this country up until the mid-20th century. And I just think that you had a generational turnover and the numbers declined. Like I said, Freemasonry peaked in this country, I think right around World War II.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Five million, you said, right? Right around five million. Where's it at now? God, I haven't seen the latest, but it's probably declined. Maybe half of that, maybe three million. So it doesn't have the influence that once had no, okay It does not so let's talk about history. So for me, okay, so
Starting point is 00:41:32 When it comes down to us You know and study in history you go to school you read a book You have to trust that's the history. They're telling you you're 13 years or your 12 years old Yeah You go home you ask your mom and dad if your mom and dad are like busy trying to make money and they forgot what they You have to trust that's the history they're telling you. You're 13 years old, you're 12 years old. You go home, you ask your mom and dad. If your mom and dad are busy trying to make money and they forgot what they read 25 years ago, they're like, babe, honey, I don't know. Go Google something, right?
Starting point is 00:41:56 Then you go to Google, okay? So you're studying history, then let's go to a museum. So we go to this museum. Who is funding the museum and who has influence over the museum? Is it the people that are giving it the money? So is it the donors that have the control? Can archaeologists manipulate and confuse? Who can guess, who do we trust when it comes, is it just a writing?
Starting point is 00:42:19 So when it comes down to history being told, how does one trust who's telling the real history of the events? For me, it just comes down to looking at all sides of, you know, I try to look at different perspectives. So I might read, you know, Paul Johnson to get more like the conservative interpret of history, and I might read somebody else to get a more liberal, left-wing side. Then, you know, you look at, to me, it's just, it's a matter of looking at all sides, applying history and I might read somebody else to get a more liberal, left-wing side, then you know, you look at, to me it's just, it's a matter of looking at all sides, applying
Starting point is 00:42:49 your reason, your critical thinking abilities and knowing, for example, how propaganda works, learning how to recognize it, because now propaganda is everywhere, it's prevalent. And it's all pretty much leading us to the mindset of accepting this authoritarian hierarchical structure of society. And, you know, trust the experts. When it comes to COVID, trust the experts. When it comes to foreign policy, trust the experts. You know, when it comes to climate change, trust the experts. You know, and if you're not, you know, a government-funded scientist, your opinion on climate change doesn't amount to anything.
Starting point is 00:43:28 So for me, it's just a matter of critical thinking, using your reason, being skeptical, looking at all sides of an issue, and I think that we can sort it out. I've looked at the climate. I got interested in climate change literally back in the 70s. So I started studying it. When about 1992 when the IPCC published its first report, I thought good because by that time I had learned enough to realize that in the past there had been extreme climate changes on planet Earth.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And we didn't have an explanation for that. Where I grew up in Minnesota was right at the edge of one of the great ice sheets that existed down until about 10,000 years ago. Well, so I got fascinated with that. We lived a rural life. We had property, we had acreage on a lake that was one of the puddles left over from the great ice sheets. Where we lived was right, pretty much at the edge of the ice sheets.
Starting point is 00:44:32 So the ice sheets would expand and contract. And without knowing specifically, I always had this sense about the landscape, that there was something there. There was some kind of story there, that a hill wasn't just a hill, that a lake wasn't just a lake. And then later I came, about the time I got out of high school, I started traveling around, I loved the outdoors, I camped and hiked all the time. So I kind of got to the point where I was like, okay, there's a story here, right?
Starting point is 00:45:04 There's something that's interesting. Why is this like near, near our property, right in the edge of the lake? I used to play on it when I was a kid, it was a boulder, oh, maybe about the size of double the size of Robert Robb's desk there. Big boulder just sitting there completely out of place. It was, I got older. I like, why is that rock sitting there? You know, like a lot of people, maybe it's just a rock, it's there, we don't need to know. But I was more like, why is that rock there?
Starting point is 00:45:32 And then I told this story, I'll tell it again very quickly. 1969, there was a, the Minnesota River flows from, it flows across southern Minnesota. It comes up and joins the, it's a tributary to the Mississippi River. And yeah, there it is right there. So if you come down, it's right up there where you see Big Stone Lake. Okay, that was the outlet. God, there's so much to get into here, man. That was the outlet of Glacial Lake Agassiz, which was this gigantic inland freshwater sea that was left over from the melting of the glaciers.
Starting point is 00:46:11 And it burst out catastrophically right there at Big Stone Lake. And it's called Big Stone Lake because if you go there, there's these big old stones sitting out in the field randomly and you go, okay, how'd these stones get there? So it was the summer of 1969. Randall, can you put the okay, how'd these stones get there? Right? So, it was the summer of 1969, and I was... Randal, can you put the mic in front of you so the audience can... Yeah, I was summer of 1969, and there was a place called Flying Cloud Airport at Eden Prairie. Yeah, look at that. Okay, so at Eden Prairie, there was bluffs overlooking the Minnesota River Valley.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And if Rob, can you pull up Google Maps and go to Terrain View? And then once you've got that up, yeah, go to Terrain View and then put in Eden Prairie, Minnesota. Now go to, Rob, go to Terrain View, which, there we go, now let's see. Go to Eden Prairie, Minnesota, and then we're gonna zoom out, and I'm gonna show an example
Starting point is 00:47:14 of what's called an underfit river. Let's see, I think we're a little, yeah. Go south of there, right there, now zoom in right there, where you're at, on the river. Okay, pull it down a little bit to get it centered up. Pull it down. Okay, you see the river? Okay, so now go a little north of the river and you're going to see, right there you see the embankment? Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Okay, that's an embankment that's about 200 to 250 feet high. Right where that red dot is, if you go just to about maybe 2 o'clock, it's 1969, I'm standing up on top of the bluff and I'm looking at the river down below me, right? And I see that river and then I look beyond the river and if you go south of the river you're going to see another set of bluffs. They're not quite as prominent, but yeah, okay, you can see them, they're quite prominent. Yeah, there they are. There's the other set of bluffs. Well, so I was standing there looking, and I had this epiphany, and the epiphany was as I'm looking down at the modern Minnesota River, and it's in its channel, and then I'm
Starting point is 00:48:24 standing up on these bluffs, and I'm looking at, I could see another set of bluffs three miles away. And I had this epiphany which was that, God, am I looking into a giant river valley here? Now, I didn't know anything about any of this, but it turned out that yes, that's a gigantic river valley. And it was a river that was right there, three miles wide and 200 feet deep.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And it was called Glacial River Warren. I learned later in the 80s, I learned that it was Glacial River Warren. And I also learned that the peak discharge of Glacial, there it is, Glacial River Warren, it was, yeah, Lake Agassiz was formed from the melt waters of the Laurentide Ice Sheet during the Wisconsin, yes, yes, there it is, that's the whole thing right there. And so, as it says, there was a prehistoric river that drained Lake Agassiz in central North America between 1305 and 10,650, BP means before present. So that river at its peak was 4,000 times greater than the modern Minnesota River. 4,000 times greater. And I didn't know, you know, I had this impression,
Starting point is 00:49:38 I was probably in an altered state of consciousness. What were you smoking? I don't remember. I don't know, maybe Acapulco cold. I don't remember that particular day. But knowing me back then, I probably was. Okay, okay, so I confess. But the point was, that stuck in my craw for years, and after like a decade, in fact after I had become a Freemason, I mentioned that one of the brothers that signed my petition
Starting point is 00:50:13 was writing a book. Well his book was on catastrophism. And I was getting really, really interested in that, because again, I had learned about the ice ages and I like really what there was you know the whole of Canada was buried under a mile and a half of ice so were New York City Detroit Boston Philadelphia Chicago Milwaukee Madison Minneapolis Seattle Portland they were all buried under ice yes they were buried under ice.
Starting point is 00:50:45 And this is not long ago. This is between 10 and 25,000 years ago. So I'm obsessively curious about stuff. So I wanted to know more about that. And that's when I discovered that science had no answer. Like what caused the end of the Ice Age? That's when I discovered that science had no answer. What caused the end of the Ice Age? There were old assumptions based upon old models, which based upon the energy requirements
Starting point is 00:51:16 available in order to melt the quantity of ice that was covering North America and Northwestern Europe. It was between six and seven million cubic miles of ice that was covering North America and Northwestern Europe. It was between six and seven million cubic miles of ice. That's as much ice as now in Greenland and the South Pole together. So take the amount of ice that you've got now. South Pole, Antarctica, and Greenland, double that. And now we're back in the ice age. And so the old assumption was that that took 30, 40, 50,000 years to melt away. Then radiocarbon dating comes along in the 50s and 60s, and by the 70s enough data had come out that it was apparent that the disappearance of the ice, the growth of
Starting point is 00:52:01 the ice sheet, and the disappearance of the ice were way, way faster than anybody had ever imagined. There we go. So on the right, you see the Laurentide Ice Sheet. On the left over Western Canada, you see the Cordier and Ice Sheet. And then you've got the ice-free corridor in between them. So this would have been, probably this would have been around 13,000 years ago. If you go back to... That's not a long time ago. No, no it's not a long time ago at all. Not in terms of Earth history. See, now we're getting to the
Starting point is 00:52:35 mystery of it. This is not long ago at all. Now, when you had this much ice, now this is not even showing the ice over northwestern Europe, but when you had this much ice, where did that ice come from? Well, it came out of the oceans, right? So to accumulate that much ice on land, you have to drop ocean levels by 400 feet. Now think about that. You're right here, Fort Lauderdale. If you drop ocean levels by 400 feet, what happens to the coastline? What happens to the beach?
Starting point is 00:53:05 It ain't there anymore. In fact, I think from here on the east coast of the Florida Peninsula, I think you probably have to go 30 to 50 miles further east to get to the shoreline. So when that ice melted, then sea level comes up 400 feet. Now that's real sea level rise, 400 feet, compared to what the panic is now, oh, it might raise another six inches in the next century, or eight inches, I think.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Of course, the projections are based upon, in my opinion, faulty computer models. Did you listen to the, what do you call it, the Twitter spaces between Trump and Elon Musk? I haven't yet. Did you listen to the, okay, so you didn't hear the exchange on climate change between Musk and Trump? I did not.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Okay, Rob, can you find that? I don't know if you have it or not. Even if it's the clip, I just want to have him hear it and react to it, because, you know, this was a position where Musk took the position to say, you know, climate change, he didn't fully discredit it. He came from a place of, let me see, Rob, if you don't have it, I'm trying to get it, if it's on Trump, Musk, on Twitter, I don't know where you're trying to find it, if you can see if they have it.
Starting point is 00:54:23 But okay, I'll ask you until Rob finds it. So what do you think, you know, the debate? Because you hear scientists, like, no, it's undisputed, this is for sure this is what's happening, and here's what we need to do. Is this the one, Rob? Is this? No, hold on one second. This is them talking about nuclear energy. Let me see if I can find. Yeah, if you find it. But I guess the question for you would be what what does the average person not know we're hearing what we hear about climate change What is the average person not know that's going on an awful lot specific to climate change? Okay specific to climate change
Starting point is 00:54:56 Well, I would say the biggest thing that they don't know is The degree and extent and frequency with which climate has changed naturally over and over and over again. I mean, I would say this. Okay, so explain to me how we get from half of North America, the climate of half of North America 10 to 12 to 13, 15,000 years ago was a climate like you now find at the South Pole. I mean, that's not an exaggeration. If you believe that the climate, that there's some steady state that we're
Starting point is 00:55:30 supposed to find that we're, that's what we're supposed to, you know, we're supposed to find this whatever, you know, what are we trying to do here? Get back to the climate of the 1800s or the early 1900s. You know, people don't know the extent to which climate has changed So I just mentioned the fact that sea levels rose 400 feet Well, nobody's in the mainstream is really thinking about that, you know, you have to go to marine geologists They're talking about it and realizing it oceanographers
Starting point is 00:56:00 paleo climatologists who study ancient climate will tell you, yeah, it's overwhelming that evidence that the climate has changed over and over again, orders of magnitude beyond anything we've seen in the last century or two. That's what most people don't know. They don't know the degree and extent to which the climate has changed naturally without anthropogenic influences and long before we were driving SUVs and putting carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The other thing they don't know is that the thermal capture ability, the long wave radiation coming off of the Earth that the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere can capture is limited.
Starting point is 00:56:43 In fact, most of the thermal capture is within the first hundred capture is limited. It's in fact most of the thermal capture is within the first 100 parts per million. And beyond that it tapers off logarithmically. So that by the time you get to 420 parts per million, what it is right now, it's like a leaky sponge. A lot of the heat that's being, you understand how carbon dioxide works. It creates an envelope around the earth in the upper atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:57:11 It allows the shortwave radiation to come through that's coming from the sun, which is absorbed into the earth, and then it's re-emitted as longwave radiation roughly in the, what is it, 14 to 17 micron wavelength. Okay, so it comes back from the earth. That's what's being captured by carbon dioxide, but most of that within that window is being captured by water vapor and there is only a limited ability of carbon dioxide to capture limited ability of carbon dioxide to capture heat in that window, right? And imagine, Pat, that you've got a sponge sitting on the table and you start, I take this water and I start pouring into a dry sponge.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Well you're not going to see anything leaking out until the sponge gets saturated. Once it's saturated, I keep pouring and then what happens? It just keeps leaking out. Well, that's what's happening, is that the heat is now leaking out from the carbon dioxide. Now, we saw a spike, you know, last summer when they were saying, well, this is the hottest month and all that on record. Well, it depends again on how you look at the records. I think the records are being biased by the urban heat island because most of the measuring stations are in airports which were rural fifty years ago, thirty years ago, and now they're urban.
Starting point is 00:58:33 So they're surrounded by asphalt and concrete and air conditioner condensers and everything that's putting off heat. So that's a whole other discussion we could have about the bias that I think has found its way into the data about climate change, about warming. But the other thing that happened was this big underwater volcano that went off that disgorged enormous volumes of water vapor. What's it called? Hunga-Tunga?
Starting point is 00:59:02 Hunga? Rob will find it for us. Hunga find it for us. What an interesting name. Yeah, Hunga Tunga. I think it's what it was. Oh, there it is. I found it, Rob. Yeah, there it is. Underwater volcano. Yeah, erupted. There it is. January 15th. The largest underwater explosion ever recorded by modern instruments and had a number of effects. One of those effects is that it increased the density of the water vapor canopy, which captured heat. And I think that that's what really made that summer exceptionally warm of 2023.
Starting point is 00:59:38 In fact, that water vapor is still clearing out. So there's a lot of those things that people just don't know. And you have to like follow the whole controversy to know that kind of stuff. Hey you. Yeah, you. Scrolling TikTok and avoiding your chem homework? Chegg here. Hot take. You've seen enough Bama Rush, ASMR keyboard, and viral dance videos for one day. Let's lock in and start that assignment. If you need a little help, lean on Chegg's expert-supported learning tools. I say this with love.
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Starting point is 01:00:37 ahead. You can afford to hoard because IKEA is priced for student life. Shop everything you need for back to school at IKEA today. Rob, can you find a clip of the Hungatunga on, maybe one of the greatest names for a volcano? Can you find a clip of what this Hungatunga did? I found one, but I wanna see if you got one here and the effects of it. Well, let me put it to you this way. The climate change establishment is trying to downplay the effects of it, but there is independent research that pretty much confirms that, yes, that enormous injection of water vapor would have had... Play that, Rob, on 2.0. If you can play that clip on 2.0 speed.
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Starting point is 01:02:05 it and why do you think it's a bigger deal than what the establishment climate change folks are telling us? Well because again it points to the idea that the climate changes naturally without help from humans and the whole climate change narrative is about I think it's about ultimately using climate change towards social control. This is what, by the, Rob, do you remember this at all? I don't. I mean, we covered, we cover a lot of different issues. I don't ever remember this being a mainstream,
Starting point is 01:02:32 like a big story. That's what happened. That's a pretty big deal for something like that to take place. Absolutely, and I think it was deliberately downplayed. That's my, I think it was deliberately ignored, because again, I think the strategy now is to focus exclusively on anthropogenic driven climate change. Okay, so fear has got a big influence over, what does that say, is a volcanic island located
Starting point is 01:02:57 about 30 kilometers southeast of a Faunu Island in Tonga? Click on it. Is it trying to show us something? Let's just see what happens with the sun. Well, it's near that island. That's, I think that should be right on there on that. The volcano itself is a submarine volcano that breached sea level in 2009 due to a volcanic eruption. That's the Honga Tonga island right there to the top, right? Yep. It lies underwater between two islands, Honga Tonga and Honga Apai. Who comes up with these names? The ongoing eruption is about seven times more powerful than a volcano's last outburst.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Huh. Interesting. Okay, so this event here. Just two months ago, a meteor, what was it, 400 to 800? Yeah the size of Eiffel Tower I believe that was in between Earth and moon and the moon and no one really That was also a non-story right so I knew about it. Okay. Tell us about it Well, it was slightly different trajectory. It impacted the earth it would have
Starting point is 01:04:03 Detonated with a explosive force of about 600 megatons. Now what's 600 megatons? Well, the biggest hydrogen bomb tested in the U.S. arsenal, I believe it was Mike, and Robert looked this up for us, maybe 1951 largest U.S. hydrogen bomb test and it was about 15 megatons and that's about a thousand times greater than the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima and in fact I think I included a slide couple of slides thousand times more yes than what was dropped in Hiroshima yes and that's what this meteor just two months ago Was capable of doing no much bigger than that. I
Starting point is 01:04:51 Said that okay. Good. That's in my slideshow right there. Okay, so Okay, look at the bottom 15 kilotons. That's Hiroshima. Okay 15,000 kilotons. That's that's 15 million megatons of TNT. That's the size of the largest hydrogen bomb tested by the United States. 15,000 kilotons, that's the largest hydrogen bomb tested by the US. Now, the Soviet Union in 1961, I believe it was,
Starting point is 01:05:24 tested the Tsar Bomba, which was 50 megatons. So it was what, you know, three and a third times bigger than this. Okay, so the impact of that object, that asteroid that passed between Earth and Moon, would have been about 600 megatons. Now the average size of the bombs during the peak of the Cold War on the US arsenal was less than a megaton. So if you could imagine 600 megatons, that's 600 hydrogen bombs going off if that thing had hit the earth.
Starting point is 01:06:00 What would have been the consequences if it would have hit the earth? Well you would have had a fireball about three miles wide going up. You'd have had about a 6.7 to 7.0 earthquake. You would have had winds near the fireball of up to 8,000 miles per hour moving outward. You would have had a shockwave that would have blown your eardrums out 20, 30 miles away. Probably if it was a populated center
Starting point is 01:06:22 like East Coast or West Coast, you'd had a million people vaporized and you'd probably had another two or three million die from secondary effects. It would have been hell and it would have had global consequences. It would have affected global climate probably to the point where it could have disrupted agriculture for three to five years until all the dust and soot from the fires, the secondary fires, because that impact is gonna blow stuff up in the air, right? And that debris is gonna fall back to earth and it's gonna create a whole bunch of secondary fires. So why did the media not really cover it much and it's just kind of like, yeah, it happened and there wasn't too much of a worry and concern about it. Again I think it's because it's
Starting point is 01:07:09 it doesn't fit the the contrived narrative. Why doesn't though? Why wouldn't it fit the narrative? To me it would and to me it should deserve a much much higher priority. I collect this stuff since since the late 80s I've been collecting information on near misses. Yeah, there we go. NASA plans for a doomsday scenario of asteroid with 72% chance of hitting Earth in 14 years. And by the way, that's four days before the asteroid, right? June 29th is one day, if I'm not mistaken, Rob, June 29th, 2024, they discovered it 13 days before.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yeah. Not sooner. They only discovered it 13 days before not sooner. They only discovered it 13 days before Yes named 2024 MK passed within 180,000 miles of Earth's surface 75% the distance between Earth and the moon size of Eiffel Tower came between Earth and the moon so so 180,000 miles just for context. Is that a big deal or is that not like it was almost a mist that is of Is that a big deal, or is that not, like, it was almost a mist? That is, in astronomical sense, that's like a whisker. And see, here's the thing. If it comes that close, see that?
Starting point is 01:08:12 You got a picture. These things are out there orbiting the Sun, right? A lot of them are, think of it like a cosmic ping pong game, and a lot of these things like comets and asteroids that are circling in an orbit that takes them out to Jupiter and back to the Sun again. Well, do you remember 1994, summer of 1994, July, when 21 objects of a fragmented comet plunged into Jupiter? Rob, Shoemaker, Levy, L-E-V-Y, 9.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Shoemaker, Levy, 9. And pull up some images. There we go. Okay, so this happened, yes, this was an incredible, this was at the time the most watched astronomical event in history. If you go down there to the lower right, you're going to see, okay, click on that, open it, and you'll see that that is what is called the chain of pearls. Now here's what happened.
Starting point is 01:09:06 This thing is out there, picture. It's circling, going into the sun, going back out, going behind Jupiter and coming back in. It's a big elliptical orbit. Each time it's going out there to Jupiter, it's being, Jupiter's gravity is pulling it in closer and closer. Okay, the last time before it was discovered, it had just passed within Jupiter's gravity is putting it in closer and closer. Okay, the last time before it was discovered, it has just passed within Jupiter's gravity field. Jupiter's gravity field
Starting point is 01:09:32 is so powerful that it literally ripped a single comet nucleus into 21 pieces. And that's what you're seeing here, the so-called string of pearls. Now, astronomers can predict orbits if they know what are, basically what are called the orbital elements. And so it took three months of observations and you've got enough of the ellipse, the orbital ellipse, to reconstruct the whole ellipse. You've also got data on the velocity. So when you put that together into your models with the other orbital elements, you can now make predictions.
Starting point is 01:10:07 And so after they discovered this thing, just after it's coming around behind Jupiter and in the early stages of breaking apart. So as it moved around the sun, all of this stuff gets strung out, like they called it the string of pearls in space, comes back around and after three months of observations they projected it forward to where it was going to cross Jupiter's orbit again,
Starting point is 01:10:30 and then realized that where it was going to cross Jupiter's orbit, Jupiter was going to be right in that spot. And so they were able to predict that in the second week of July 1994 these 21 pieces were going to fall into Jupiter. Now one of the things, and I think I probably put some of this in my slideshow, is that we're discovering that yes, okay Rob, go back up, go back to the diagram there of the comet nucleus, come down, come down, right stop, go up to where you've got the drawings. You're right there. Go to that one.
Starting point is 01:11:09 No, now you're going to... He's going to play... There we go. There we go. Okay, so this is now the model of a comet nucleus. And it's basically an icy matrix, and within that icy matrix you've got all of these chunks and pieces. When that matrix fragments, you now get all kinds of sub-nuclei, or, yeah, so you've got
Starting point is 01:11:38 a Halley-type comet nucleus. So what happened, you had a single object like this that got ripped into 21 pieces. Now if it hadn't plunged into Jupiter, each one of those 21 pieces could have spawned a whole other generation of cometary debris. Now do you know, are you familiar with the the explosion in Siberia of 1908? Yes. OK. Yes, it's called the Tunguska event.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Tunguska event, yes. The Tunguska event of 1908 was probably a piece of a comet. It was about 150 feet in diameter. And what's interesting about that is the explosion, the energy of explosion of that Tunguska event, was about 15 megatons. That's the estimate. So conveniently we've got a natural event that was about 15 megatons, but we know the destructive potential of a 15 megaton
Starting point is 01:12:35 explosion because we tested bombs with that level of energy released. So I don't know the area here, but if you look at Atlanta, do you know 285 that goes around Atlanta? Okay. If you look at the area inside of Atlanta, inside of 285, the urban area, it's about 800 square miles. That is about the same area that you see in that picture right there of total devastation. So in other words, a Tunguska explosion, a 150-foot wide meteor or piece of comet coming in. Now, important distinction here. Tunguska was an atmospheric explosion rather than a direct impact. What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:13:20 Well, it means it had never reached the surface of the Earth. It didn't hit the Earth and explode a big hole in the ground. It exploded in the atmosphere. Got it. It was going some 40,000 kilometers an hour. I have some of the details that I wrote down here. Asteroid the size of a White House, it destroyed 2,000 square kilometers. Yep, about 800 miles. And then they said this happens every 500 years.
Starting point is 01:13:47 By the time it hit our atmosphere, it was going 40,000 kilometers per hour, exploded like a hydrogen bomb. Yeah, like a 15 megaton hydrogen bomb. And had that exploded, like if you had, and first of all, the number 500, I could show if we, maybe I'll come back at some some point we can dive into some of these questions deeper I think that that's wrong. I think that we have to look at once or twice a century. I Think that's the I don't know you think it's once or twice a century at least. Okay, at least Yes, and Rob there's a there's a clip because this hit Russia right and then there's a
Starting point is 01:14:25 Siberia, yes, Siberia and there's an opening trying to see which clip to show that shows the What it looks like now. There's an image if you can pull up. I Wish I could find it to show it to you Rob Yeah, there's a video that actually shows what it would look like if it were to hit. I don't know if you have it or not. Let me see if I got this here. So for you, you're saying it's not 500 years. You're saying it's more likely to happen more often. Now, let me ask you this, when you're talking about Jupiter, right, and you say the gravity field, is there, that's the one right there, Rob,
Starting point is 01:15:11 that's the one right there, that look right there. So that's called the great swamp, like that's right under the epicenter. And the area of devastation where the trees were blown down is way bigger than what we're seeing right there. But the forest is growing back very quickly. You know, I mean, it's well over a century now and the forest is regrowing. Yeah. A great swamp. Is Earth, does the gravity field, Randall, of Earth set up in a way, because if there's
Starting point is 01:15:49 so many meteors that go going by, how come we don't get hit by it more often? Why, why don't we have more that are hitting us? Is it built in a way to protect it from happening? I know I'm asking an innocent question, but I'm not in the world. That's why I'm wondering what the answer is. Well, first of all, I think that the evidence that I've been looking at for years would suggest to me that the impact rate is not uniform through time. But there are periods where it's more concentrated, if you want to say more bunched.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And then you'll have a period where it's relatively calm, and then you'll have another period where there'll be an influx, an increase in meteorite or cometary impacts. Now, there's so much, I mean, we're kind of like in this, like in a new frontier here of understanding the cosmos of which we're apart. You know, the first asteroid wasn't even discovered till January 1st, 1801, that was Ceres. And then it was a very slow discovery and then in the last 20 or 30 years it has really accelerated.
Starting point is 01:16:54 I believe at the end of my slideshow, Rob, I think I have a video that was put out by NASA. Let's see here. If you can pull over and you can enlarge the the the thumbnails over There we go. This is a video released by Russia Declassified go down. We're not going to get any volume go down and hit play back out of there Did this can? Unselect and go back to the same slide We'll get Rob here trained well for next the next okay, so now go back to the same slide. We'll get Rob here trained well for the next... Okay, so now go down to the lower right toolbar. Same one you pressed, Rob, all the way at the bottom.
Starting point is 01:17:32 All the way at the bottom. All the way at the bottom, Rob, right there. And turn the volume up. And now, yeah, there we go. This is 50 megaton explosion. Russia put this together. Yeah. RBC has helped millions of young Canadians turn their most likelies into most definatelies, making their ideas happen with scholarships, internships, and skill development, plus resources for artists and athletes. Learn more at rbc.com slash support youth. This is an ad from BetterHelp. As kids, we were always learning and growing, but at some
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Starting point is 01:19:25 That it. So, okay, so you've spoken about, you know, the level of curiosity of previous civilizations that we've had, ancient civilizations that we've had, you know, some even, you know, humans were around far longer than scientists say 300,000 years ago, the what do you call it, the Jebel Irhoud, Morocco, I don't know if you've read into that or you've read that or not. There's a lot of weird stories that people claim, right? But for me, the possibilities of an extinction event, okay, that can happen. What are some different forms of events that can happen for, you know, for us to be extinct? Well, okay, the event that happened 12 to 13,000 years ago called the Younger Dryas
Starting point is 01:20:11 is the most recent extinction level event in Earth history. Younger Dryas was sort of what bookended the Great Ice Age. And the ice had started warming and melting around 15,000 years ago. And then at 14,600 there was a gigantic meltwater pulse, it's called Meltwater Pulse 1A. And then at 12,000, just a little less than 12,900 years ago was what's called the lower, younger, driest boundary. Okay, there's meltwater pulse 1A. There it is right there. If you go down, meltwater pulse 1A is also known as a catastrophic rise event.
Starting point is 01:20:55 The rates of sea level rise associated with meltwater pulse 1A are the highest known rates of post-glacial eustatic sea level rise. Meltwater pulse 1A is also the most widely recognized and least disputed of the named post-glacial meltwater pulses. Now since this was written, I think a lot of the evidence of the last couple of years confirms that the rise of sea level because of the melting of the glaciers was pulsed. It wasn't a smooth uniform curve. And I think that there was a meltwater pulse at 14.6, and I think that's what that's showing right there. There was another meltwater
Starting point is 01:21:33 pulse at the lower Younger Dryas boundary, about 12,900, and then the third one was at And those are all related to very rapid acceleration of ice sheet melting. Because the term eustatic that you just saw there is a type of sea level rise or fall, a change in the vertical elevation of sea level correlated or corresponding directly to the amount of ice on the land surface. So the greater the amount of ice, the lower the sea level. And as the ice melts, then sea level rises. If we were to go into another ice age, then sea level would fall again until the planet...there we go. Yeah, when the amount of water stored in ice caps changes, it can cause sea levels to change. This is called glacial eustasy.
Starting point is 01:22:26 For example, after the last ice age, global sea levels were about 130 meters lower, which is actually more than 400 feet. But the glaciated regions were depressed by at least that much. Yeah. And it gets into some complicated stuff. Isostasy is the vertical movement of the Earth's crust. They don't use that term there, but there was a very, very significant change in the vertical elevation of the Earth's crust because of the deglaciation that occurred.
Starting point is 01:22:53 If, Rob, look up this term, ISO-isostasy, I-S-O-S-T-A-C-Y. There we go, or STSY. The equilibrium that exists between parts of the earth's crust, which behaves as if it consists of blocks floating on the underlying mantle. Rising of material, such as an ice cap, is removed and sinking if material is deposited. So you've got these two connected processes, isostasy and eustasy. Isostasy is the vertical movement of the Earth's crust, eustasy is the vertical movement of the ocean levels.
Starting point is 01:23:31 And they're correlated. Because when you're building that- One goes down, one goes up. Yeah. When glaciers grow, sea level drops. When glaciers shrink, sea level rises. That's it. And when that huge mass, you've got to figure it out, a lot of Canada was buried under a
Starting point is 01:23:46 mile and a half of ice. So what that does is it depresses the crust. Just like the analogy I use if you're, like when I was on Rogan explaining this to Rogan, I said, right now you're sitting on a comfortable chair with a cushion, aren't you? And he said, yeah. I said, okay, well, right now the cushion you're sitting on is isostatically depressed. It's, you know, and if you were to get up, then the cushion comes back. So I said, Joe, right now you didn't realize this, but your ass is isostatically depressing.
Starting point is 01:24:17 And I think he got it. It makes sense. Yeah. So it makes sense on, I totally get that part. But going back to this, so, okay, extinction event. Good, good, yeah. Okay, so, we had an extinct... now, it's not considered one of the great five in Earth history. Now, the great five, you know, you're talking about three-quarters to 95% of all species, marine and
Starting point is 01:24:39 terrestrial, being annihilated. Now, the two primary candidates, I think, are one would be impacts, two would be gigantic volcanic eruptions, and three that now needs to be considered, I think, is solar outburst activity. I don't want to talk too much about that because I'm in early stages of really kind of understand trying to understand the physics of the variable Sun, but there does certainly appear to about that because I'm in early stages of really kind of understand trying to understand the physics of the variable sun. But there does certainly appear to be times when solar outbursts have been, yeah, there they are, Andoradivician, Late Devonian, and Permian was the biggest one at 250. Now, MyA is million years, think of it million years ago, but
Starting point is 01:25:22 the A actually means annum, Latin for year, right? So 250 million years anum means 250 million years ago. So you've got, those are the big five, endorotovician, late Devonian, end Permian, end Triassic, end Cretaceous. And Cretaceous is the most famous one because that's the, like it says, the event that killed off the dinosaurs. Now, end Cretaceous, I think, was about, the estimates are, 75% of all species on Earth went extinct. Now, the terminal Pleistocene extinction primarily focused on the top of the food chain, the large mammals.
Starting point is 01:25:59 And we talked, I think I talked some with Tony about this, you know, when I met with Tony and Rob the other day, I think we got into that a little bit. And there was this incredible megafauna in North America. I mean, it was Serengeti Plain plus. I mean, you had three species of proboscidians, which are basically elephants, living in un-glaciated North America. You had giant camels. You had ground sloths the
Starting point is 01:26:25 size of elephants today, you had beavers the size of bears. Yeah, look at, that's probably Jeffersonia. Let's see what, that's not the biggest one, let's see what that would be, well that's one of the ground sloths, but there were multiple species. What's that there? That's the... Just click it at Rob so it can show the eight. Go ahead, yeah. So the giant short face bearer.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Now that guy, you would not want to encounter that guy on a... He looks friendly. You figure that that guy, when he stood up on his hind legs, a full grown one was 12 feet tall. Damn. Now, see, the megafauna at the end of the Ice Age was just, yeah, the saber-toothed cat or the skimitar cat. Again, they were here in North America very abundantly.
Starting point is 01:27:20 What else we got there, Rob? The dire wolf. Now these guys they hunted in packs. Their jaws were like twice the mass of a modern timber wolf. So I mean, you know when you think about it, like when we get up in the morning, yeah, mammoths and mastodons. Mammoths were grazers. They liked open areas. Mastodons were browsers, so they were in forested areas. Giant ground sloths. What is that? Camel giant beavers?
Starting point is 01:27:53 Yeah, castoroydes with giant beaver, camelops. Yeah, so all of these guys are gone. What happened to them? Well, they all disappeared within a very short window of time, and the peak of the extinction, actually if you go back to about my slide number five or six, I have what's called the mortality graph. This goes back 50,000 years. In each of those squares, black and white, represents the finding of a fossil of an extinct mammal, mega mammal.
Starting point is 01:28:24 And what you see there is that right when you get to around 14,000 years ago, it starts trending upwards. When you get to the younger dryus, it peaks, and then it tapers off. So what that means is that the number of fossils found in the record of these extinct mammals peaked right around this time when you had these tremendous
Starting point is 01:28:46 changes that were going on, temperature changes and so on. So the loss of species is going to be directly a function of habitat destruction, because that's the main thing that causes species to go extinct. Now, one may say of these five events that you talked about, the most recent one was 65 million years ago. Yes. Right? So, you know, the average person right now, or even, you know, say, you know, you get
Starting point is 01:29:13 a call and you're working for the leader of the free world, okay, and they have a division that their job is to be prepared for a possibility of extinction events. I don't even know if we have it right now in our government. I don't know if somebody's job is to do that or not. I don't know whose job that is. Well, it was actually going to probably, during the Trump years, there was talk, you know, I knew, I know Matt Lohmeyer pretty good, Lieutenant Colonel Matt Lohmeyer, and he was high ranking in the Space Force.
Starting point is 01:29:44 Matt Lohmeyer just he was high ranking in the Space Force. Matt Lohmeyer just texted me. Did he really? Literally two hours before you and I talked. Literally two hours before we talked he texted me. He's going to watch and be like, oh shit, it's so funny you're talking about him. I just got a text from him at 2.13 today. I had Matt on before. Yeah, good man.
Starting point is 01:29:59 So was this part of his job, he is, was it part of his job to find ways to protect against extinction events? Well, if you consider that the primary instigator of extinction level events is impact, which I believe is the case, then yeah, it certainly could fall to Space Force. Because, and Matt was very much apprised of that idea and before he got canned for being politically incorrect, which pisses me off, we were gonna do, I was gonna do a presentation to Space Force talking about planetary defense, but then that didn't happen. So you were supposed to be involved in this? I was gonna be
Starting point is 01:30:44 involved. Okay so perfect, so now that you know So you were supposed to be involved in this. I was going to be involved. Okay, so perfect. Let's, so now that you know that you were one of the candidates possibly involved. Okay. So once it stands like you're talking to the president, I'd Randall. So let me ask you this. Well, one of my guys, research guy tells me the Astro that came in June 29, 2024, just a couple months ago, if it would have hit us, it would have been pretty bad situation. Then you got the Tunguska event, 1908 Russia, when that hit, you know. And then you have the
Starting point is 01:31:08 volcanic explosion, April 5th of 1815, which is the largest volcano explosion in human history. We're talking about Mount Tambora, right, located in Indonesia. The explosion was felt thousands of miles away. Volcanic winter, sunlight was blocked, causing temperatures to drop globally, ash reaches as far as Europe, a year without summer, 1816, you've seen that before, you know about that. Or, you know, so we have the Yellowstone volcano called there, okay, all of these things, we put it on the wall, in a, let's just say, decision making room, whatever you want to call that room.
Starting point is 01:31:38 All right, so how do you prevent from a meteor hitting us? How do you prevent from these volcanoes erupting? How do we, or is it just, guys, if it happens, you're screwed. There's nothing you can do about it. Right now, yes. If it happens, we're screwed. Okay. We're screwed right now.
Starting point is 01:31:56 But, my interpretation of this is, right now we're vulnerable, but if we get our act together, we don't have to, we can reduce our vulnerability enormously. Now, you know, and what are the potential, you just named several, impacts, volcanoes, I think the sun needs to be included, the Carrington event of 1857, Rob's going to look that up for us. But we now know that there have been events, starting with the K, there it is right there, was the most intense geomagnetic storm in recorded history, peaking on the first and second of the September 1859 during solar cycle 10. It created strong auroral displays. Now if that would happen now, I mean it could really put down the electric
Starting point is 01:32:46 grid that would take a year or a couple of years perhaps even to restore. Again, what was this? This was a geomagnetic storm recorded in history. Peking on 1st July 1859 solar cycle 10 created an auroral display that were reported globally and caused sparking and even fires in telegraph stations the geomagnetic storm was most likely the result of a coronal mass ejection from the sun colliding with Earth's magnetosphere. Magnetosphere, yes. Okay, to the average person, what the hell does that mean?
Starting point is 01:33:21 Well, it means that every once in a while the sun throws off these gigantic blobs of plasma into space. It does it frequently, but typically those blobs are just flying out into space. But once in a while, one of those blobs will pass the Earth. And when it does, it can have consequences. And one of the things that it does is it can destroy ozone. It can allow galactic cosmic ray bombardment of the Earth, because normally the ozone acts as a filtering blanket that protects the Earth
Starting point is 01:33:51 from cosmic ray bombardment. If the solar storm is intense enough, it's own self can cause spallation of neutrons, and that creates beryllium-10 and carbon-14. Beryllium-10 gets preserved in ice cores, carbon-14 gets preserved in plant matter, primarily tree rings, and we can then measure the amount of isotopes, beryllium-10, carbon-14, and determine the intensity of the coronal mass ejection.
Starting point is 01:34:23 What we've found is that there is evidence of events minimum of 10 to 20 times more powerful than the Carrington event within the last 2,000 years. Now, obviously we didn't have an electronic grid encircling the earth upon which all of society was dependent back in the 700s or the 900s. But now we do. An event 10 times or 20 times greater than the Carrington event, that would cause havoc that could take a decade to straighten out. I mean, it would really, it would take down pretty much the electronic grid of the planet. There'd be no more computers, you'd have no more power coming out of the, I mean'd be no more computers. You'd have no more power coming out of the...
Starting point is 01:35:05 I mean it would be a disaster. Okay, so... What do we do about that? Well, there are ideas in place, but by people who've studied that dimension of catastrophe more than I have, of hardening the grid. And it would be expensive, but it would be minuscule compared to, say for example, the money we've dumped into Ukraine. It would be minuscule compared to, say for example, the money we've dumped into Ukraine. We could harden our electronic systems to withstand a Carrington level event or even more powerful. Now, volcanoes, there the problem is, is you've got ejection of sulfur dioxide and all these
Starting point is 01:35:40 particulates into the atmosphere, which like you just brought up, the year without a summer. Well, we could perhaps survive a year without a summer. We could. It all depends on how much, you know, this is where preparation comes in. But something, say, even bigger than Tambora, which we know from Earth history has happened repeatedly, that's just in recent Earth history, Earth history, since we've been keeping records. If we look at Toba, for example, it was many times larger than Tambora. But the point is, are we prepared? Well, what we would need, again, is lots of it. We would need a national
Starting point is 01:36:18 stockpile of food. We would need backup generators. Because we could literally maybe go a couple of years with drastically reduced agricultural output. We'd get through it, because the atmosphere would clear out. Now, an impact event, like if we took the June 29 episode, that would have consequences that would take at least five to ten years, probably for everything to recover in the aftermath. But in that recovery time, you're going to have, see the problem is you've got the first impetus, which is the impact itself, or the volcanic eruption itself.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Then you've got all the secondary consequences and the feedbacks and things. So initially, like I said, with the impact of a 600 or 800 foot wide asteroid, it would instantly kill a few million people, depending on where it fell. If it fell in the ocean, now you're going to have tsunamis that make landfall that could be 200 feet high or more when they make landfall. So I mean, you could have a tsunami that could literally wash over the entire peninsula of Florida.
Starting point is 01:37:33 So you can see there, like if it fell in the ocean, it could probably kill more people than if it hit land. But if it hit land, now you've got all the debris that goes up and as it falls... Very interesting. I got what you're saying. Yeah. So it's better it hit land and it hit water Yeah, probably so the poss okay in turning on where you hit What yes and the other consequence of hitting water of course it's gonna be like hunga-tonga hunga It's gonna throw all of this water vapor. We can't have that that's a real situation
Starting point is 01:38:01 Now see the thing is the thing is there are studies now showing that impacts can induce accelerated and concentrated volcanic response in the Earth's crust, which makes sense. If you think you've got a major impact, it hits the Earth, and then look at the work of Michael Rampino. He's done some great stuff on this going back to the 70s, showing the correlation between impacts and volcanism. He's not the only one. There have been many others. Yeah, there he is, yeah. I've been following this guy's work for years since he was a young fella. And I was a young fella then, too. But yeah, he's done a lot of work on the...
Starting point is 01:38:42 Let me, let me, let me give, let me be a skeptic here. Please do. Just push back a little bit and tell you, you know. Yeah, yeah, he's done a lot of work on the... Let me be a skeptic here. Please do. Just push back a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So for me, okay, you're telling me you're going to be able to control a meteor from hitting us and destroying civilization. That's what you think you can do. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:00 I know we can do it. Okay, so number two. You got the volcano, which is, forget about the 1815 one, which is the Tambora, the caldera, right? You've seen what happens if the caldera yellowstone goes off. That's pretty crazy as well, if that takes off. You think you can prevent that from happening? No. Okay, so that one you can't prevent from.
Starting point is 01:39:21 So there are certain things that we have that whether we like it or not there is nothing, if it happens, guess what? Make sure you get on your knees and drop your last prayer if you got time and hopefully you chose the right God and we'll see what happens after life. And if you don't, that's the risk you're taking, right? We'll see what'll happen. Well, my take is that it's, you can't prevent those things from happening, but you can prepare and you can buffer the impacts of them. That's the thing. If you factor that into your thinking, your long-term strategic planning, prevent those things from happening, but you can prepare and you can buffer the impacts of them. That's the thing. If you factor that into your thinking, your long-term strategic planning, yes, you can
Starting point is 01:39:50 mitigate the effects. You can't prevent it. Now, as far as preventing an asteroid, I mean, if you're talking about a mile-wide asteroid, there's nothing we could do about that now. But you know, the dark mission, we just were able to rendezvous and show that we could actually rendezvous with an asteroid and we could actually move it in space. So the key there is having enough lead time. Because these things that have Earth's number on them, and there have been thousands of impacts, and there will undoubtedly throughout the next know, the next million or few million years another thousand impacts
Starting point is 01:40:27 What are we looking out that there's dark double asteroid? Redirection test and it showed that we can do it now. Are we capable of? Diverting an asteroid that's on a direct earth impacting trajectory right now Probably not could we be within five to ten years? Well, yeah, if there was the national will and vision and motivation to do it. And probably, Pat, what it's going to take is another Tunguska event to get shocked people into realizing that whether we like it or not, we live on a planet that's part of a larger cosmic ecosystem, and we need to adapt to that.
Starting point is 01:41:05 And the most devastating catastrophes in Earth history, I believe, and there's quite a bit of abundance that would support this conclusion, is that the one that kind of encompasses everything else is cosmic impacts. And if you saw the number of close encounters over the last 20 years, it's kind of mind-boggling. It is. I mean, two or three times a year we're having close encounters. And Tunguska, that was a small, I mean that's a speck in cosmic terms. Now could we do something about the problem with Tunguska was it came from the direction of the Sun. It came, it encountered the earth right after its perihelion passage, meaning it had just
Starting point is 01:41:54 passed the Sun. And so when the eyewitnesses saw it, it first saw it, it looked like it's coming directly out of the Sun. People said it was born out of the Sun. Some of the Tungusi tribes people that witnessed it said it looked like it's coming directly out of the sun. People said it was born out of the sun. Some of the Tungusi tribes people that witnessed it said it looked like it was disgorged from the sun, that it was born out of the sun. Now it was likely, in my opinion, part of the torrid meteor shower. And the reason is the torrid meteor shower peaks at the end of June and early July, and the summertime torrents at
Starting point is 01:42:25 that period, there we go. Okay, they're coming from the direction of the sun at that time of year. So its position in space and its time in the year were both suitable for it being a member of the torrid meteor stream. And the torrid meteor stream is an old meteor stream that probably resulted from a really big comet that came into the inner, was captured into the inner solar system between 25 and 30,000 years ago. There we go.
Starting point is 01:42:54 An annual meteor shower associated with the comet Enki. But Enki would not have been the original comet. Enki was simply a fragment of the original comet. The original comet probably did what Shoemaker-Levy 9 did. It came in and broke up into multiple pieces, and then those broke up into multiple pieces. And it's been going through this hierarchy of disintegration ever since. It is the most likely candidate for the source of the impacts on Earth at the end of the last ice age, the so-called Younger Dryas impacts. Which very controversial theory, but I think the evidence now is pretty much overwhelmingly
Starting point is 01:43:32 supportive of the fact that yes, earth got bombarded around 13,000 years ago. Is there any word that meteor has never hit earth? And let me explain what I mean by this. Here's what I mean by this. Here's what I mean by this. Is there like a, you know, like in US, if you were to pull up numbers and you say, hey, last year we had this many murders, okay, homicides. And I can say, can you give me the top three cities in America for homicide? Okay. Okay. Number one, let's just say Chicago. Number two, DC, Baltimore. I don't know. I'm just, you know, those are some of the numbers that you'll typically hear. Rob, if you can just type in top three
Starting point is 01:44:10 cities in American homicide, okay? So then I'll say, okay, so where does it not get it? Boise, Idaho, you know, just because, right? Why not Boise, Idaho? Well, because Boise, Idaho has, you know, the most people that are licensed to carry. Boise, Idaho is the worst place for you to want to commit crime, because itise, Idaho has, you know, the most people that are licensed to carry. Boise, Idaho is the worst place for you to want to commit crime because it's open carry state.
Starting point is 01:44:30 So, oh, no shit, I didn't know that. Okay, so Dan, it's kind of telling me stuff. So is there like, a meteor will never hit Antarctica. Here's why. A meteor will never hit it. Do we know stuff like that or not necessarily? Not necessarily, because we know now that there are a couple of large craters under the ice sheet of Antarctica. So the South Pole has been hit probably before the ice cap was there.
Starting point is 01:44:56 The South Pole's been hit before? Yes. Yes. Interesting. Uh-huh. And I don't know the age of those craters, but there's a couple of craters I think now that have been discovered under the Antarctic ice sheet. I Think Rob Okay to 2.5 million years ago may have exploded over Antarctica, okay The evidence comes from a chemical analysis by the way at this point
Starting point is 01:45:23 Randall very serious request request to you, if you have what you were smoking 50 years ago, Rob may want some of it, if you do have any of it. The evidence comes from a chemical analysis of more than 100 tiny pieces of rock entertained within the White Continent's ice researchers report in the February 1st Earth and Planetary Science Letters. Yeah, I actually have read that paper that was published in the Earth and Planet. This is not what I was talking about. Another one says 250 million years.
Starting point is 01:45:51 That's the bottom one. That says 250 million. Yeah, that's probably the one I was referring to. Why are so many people... Why was Hitler fascinated with Antarctica? Why were so many people, you know, he moved 4,000 people to work over there and the US started panicking, saying, wait a minute, we got to go there and then we all negotiated together to make sure everybody had some kind of influence.
Starting point is 01:46:13 Did they learn something that they didn't want to tell the rest of us? Do you know anything about that? I don't know anything about that. Okay. I'm going to have to confess. Send a secret expedition to Antarctica and hunt. Okay. Marjoram fat. Yeah, he, he, there was a big fascination with what was, what was there. So, so let's
Starting point is 01:46:31 talk about another thing. So, you know, Atlantis, you know, when, when you say Atlantis to the average person, they'll say, beautiful resort, you know, in Bahamas, or Dubai. But when you say Atlantis to someone like you, you think a complete different thing, right? You know, here's a couple images that you'll see and, you know, videos we'll see and what existed. So civilization with all these times, how many, based on what you know, what you've read, are you in the school of thought that, you know, we existed and a lot of the current technologies maybe even more advanced, we
Starting point is 01:47:06 had before and then we either destroyed ourselves or we had something that hit us and we have to restart again. Where are you at with that? Well, I'm of the mind that we need to consider that as a realistic possibility because think about it. We come from basically feudalism, subsistence farming, hunting gathering, all within the last three hundred years to a millennium. Look how fast we have progressed since the scientific Enlightenment. You know, I make
Starting point is 01:47:36 the point sometimes that when my grandparents were born in the 1890s, the primary mode of transportation around the planet was horseback, horse-covered wagons, mule, foot. Now we had trains, yeah, we've had trains since actually around the time of the Civil War, but you know, Civil War, what are we looking at? We're looking at less than two centuries ago. Now, if you look at how far we've progressed in the last 300 years, since the time of Newton and Galileo and Kepler and all of those guys, and the founding of modern science. Now we consider, I use the more conservative, based on hard skeletal evidence of how long
Starting point is 01:48:18 have modern humans been on the planet. And basically, I think what I'm seeing now is evidence, skeletal remains, hard evidence, 175 to 200,000 years old, that appears to belong to, for all intents and purposes, modern humans. Which would imply similar levels of intelligence. Now, I think if you work it out, the numbers on it, and I should have brought my calculator in, but if you work out 200,000 years, ah, there we go. Suggests modern humans were in Europe more than 200,000. Now this is recent research, right? So 200,000
Starting point is 01:49:09 years? Now, one of the things that I came prepared to show you today, that the legends of gigantic world-destroying floods are based on real events that we can now prove overwhelmingly, right? I'm about to lead an expedition, a tour in September, to show people some of the landscapes that are created by what I would call biblical scale floods up in the Pacific Northwest. You might want to think about coming on one of the future
Starting point is 01:49:41 tours because it'll blow your mind when you spend a week out and looking at these landscapes. and you'll come away just like that epiphany I had looking over the Minnesota River Valley except this now is like that times a thousand because I concentrate we go to specific places within where where these gigantic floods have sculpted the landscape, and I teach people how to decipher the landscape, showing how these catastrophic, cataclysmos, Greek term for world destroying floods, from which we get the world, yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 01:50:16 So if you look down there, the brown that forms the border between Oregon and Washington, we're gonna be exploring in that area, in there, through the Cascade Mountain Range, because that brown that you see is the pathway of the melting flood waters from the ice sheets out to the Pacific Ocean. And those flood discharges, peak discharges, you're looking at somewhere between peak discharges 700 million to a billion cubic feet per second.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Now how do you even picture something like that? Well it's on such a scale, grand scale, that you can't really until you've spent a week. Now what I do is I put together a program and in my slides I've got samples of what I show people prior to going out in the field and I teach them about, I call it the hidden cipher of the landscape because it's on such a huge scale that most people don't even know it's there. And then what I do is I say it's like learning a new language. And what I'm going to do is we're going to a foreign country where everything is in this
Starting point is 01:51:24 language you don't understand, so I'm going to teach you the rudiments of that language, and then we're going to go to that foreign country and you're going to be able to read. Only in this case, decipher the alphabet, the story is engraved into the planetary surface. And it's been laying there for 10, 12, 14,000 years because nobody had the perspective to decipher it until now, basically. And then I say, that's a pretty grandiose statement to make, but give me a week, two weeks,
Starting point is 01:51:56 and I will instruct you in that language, and we will go into the field, and I will show you the after effects of biblical scale floods that have swept over the earth. Now how do you explain that? Well, I believe that the evidence shows that the great ice sheets, that there was a multi-impact event at the end of the last ice age, that's what destroyed the ice sheet.
Starting point is 01:52:18 It also probably plunged into the ocean. Plunging into the ocean is going to inject, just like hunga-tunga-hunga, it's going to inject gigantic amounts except way beyond hunga-tunga-hunga is an extent, inject that water vapor into the atmosphere, upper stratosphere, it's going to encircle the planet and it's going to rain out with these hellacious rainfalls that could take weeks to rain out. And I can show you, if we want to go to the slides while we got some time left, go right up to the beginning. Go to the top there, Rob. And okay, there's one of my favorite, go to the title slide.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Okay, go to play. Okay, I call this the big picture, understanding the true measure of global change. So let's just, we'll scan through a few things. Love this quote, historian Will Durant, one of the great historians of civilization, after writing 11 volumes, this was his conclusion. Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice. Dr. Rami Malik That's the part. So to me, when we're talking extinction, the key words in that quote is what?
Starting point is 01:53:33 Without notice. So if it's going to happen, so you're talking about the flooding. Let me ask the question about Noah's Ark. So the story comes out, Rob, if you can play that clip, the one article I sent you that says archaeologists think they might have found the real Noah's Ark. So the story comes out, Rob, if you can play that clip, the one article I send you that says, archaeologists think they might have found the real Noah's Ark. Did you read this article? Have you looked into this or no? Rob Larson Probably. Dr. Emanuel P. Borgman Where it says, a mountain in Turkey shows evidence of human activity in the area around the biblical flood is said to be Mount Ararat, which that's the Armenian
Starting point is 01:54:02 name, Armenian mountain. Archaeologists discovered the final location of Mount Ararat, Mount Noah's Ark. Soil samples from atop the highest peaks in Turkey reveal human activity and marine materials. Dating of the rock and soil from the location matched with biblical timing of Noah's Ark. Researchers from a trio of universities of Turkey and the United States have spent roughly a year analyzing the rock and soil in the famous Duru Penar formation on Mount Ararat, the highest mountain in Turkey. They believe that the boat-shaped site may hold the ruins of the legendary Noah's Ark. The biblical account of Noah tells God instructed Noah to build a giant ark to spare his family and
Starting point is 01:54:37 pair of animals from an impending flood meant to destroy the evil and wickedness running rampant on earth. Noah's Ark is said to have come to rest on the mountains of Aradot following a 150-day flood about 5,000 years ago." Dr. Darupinar, right, there it is, yeah. I mean, you know, the thing is, is when you look into the biblical Hebrew for the description of the ark, it's usually the ark is built of gopher wood, which in the Hebrew is gimel pey resh, but it had an alternate meaning, gimel pey resh, you can look that up. I've done quite a bit of research on that, and it actually originally meant papyrus reeds.
Starting point is 01:55:19 And the earliest known shipbuilding techniques were papyrus reeds. But it was further, they went, you know, the pitch that was used on it, I think, was part of the whole system that they used. This would be a whole discussion in itself, Pat, that would be very interesting to get into. Tell me about it. I want to know a little bit about it. I'm curious myself.
Starting point is 01:55:50 I'm Armenian, I'm a Syrian, so… Yeah. So, what are we looking at right there? Well, we're looking at, it sounds about 430 feet long, which is not the Hebrew cubit, standard cubit, is up 18 inches, which is where we get to 300 cubits at 18 inches would be what, 450 feet. This thing is a little bit longer than that, which suggests it was not using the modern Hebrew cubit, or that the Bible is not referring to the modern Hebrew cubit, but perhaps even the Egyptian cubit, which was longer. Egyptian cubit was about 21.6264.
Starting point is 01:56:32 Look up royal cubit. I think it'd be about 20.62 inches in length, royal cubit. So this thing is 300 cubits long. Yeah, there's your common cubit, 18. Yeah, royal cubit, 20.64. So that thing that we were just looking at works out to be about 300 cubits if we're using the royal cubit
Starting point is 01:56:56 rather than the modern Hebrew cubit, which is a coincidence. You know, the controversy over that thing, it's been around for years, 30 or 40 years ago, David Fassold wrote a really interesting book, I think came out in the 70s or early 80s on that site. And it was a lot of controversy, whether it was natural or something not natural. And so I haven't kept up with the research, but this may be, yeah, there he is right
Starting point is 01:57:25 there. Now that's a drogue stone that he's standing next to. And you see a big stone like that? It's got that hole in it. So if you've got an anchor chain or a rope, it goes through that hole and you drag it behind the boat in order to keep the keel aligned parallel with the current. Because if the keel gets out of parallel with the current, then it's going to swamp. I've done a lot of canoeing and I knew when you're on a fast moving river, you want to keep your keel aligned with the current. Because as soon as it turns transverse to the current, you're going to flip. So the drogestone is towed behind the ship, and that keeps the keel aligned.
Starting point is 01:58:12 So there are these really big drogestones that have been found. Now, what ships were they? I don't know. But I think David Fashold was speculating that some of the big ones may have even been associated with Arc-sized ships And it's bizarre, but if you come over to North America And you look at legends of Native Americans You know there was giant floods and
Starting point is 01:58:41 Basically how they survived Mostly was a couple of the primary ways they survived these giant floods that swept over the country and wiped out their ancestors was either a high mountain, which now would be a sacred mountain, or a great canoe. They was translated as a great canoe. Now that has been dismissed by historians and archaeologists saying that, well, they must have learned the story of Noah from missionaries, and then they grafted that onto their own religious traditions and so on.
Starting point is 01:59:15 But that can be dispelled, because we know that people like George Katelyn, who was the Indian artist who, oh gosh, he'd spent decades and traveled and lived amongst dozens and dozens of Indian tribes. And he recorded all of their traditions and their beliefs. Rob, if you look up George Catelyn, C-A-I-T-L-A-N, I believe, Indian artist, he recorded their accounts. And I have a great quote from him at the end of his book called Last Rambles. And basically he's saying that he went to all of the, yeah, there's some of his artwork, Catlin, Catlin, not Caitlin. So at the end of his book, The Last Rambles, he's talking about the traditions of Native Americans. And he says that there
Starting point is 02:00:07 was such a diversity of language and symbolism and beliefs and all that, but they all had one thing in common, and that was their belief that there had been this great flood. Now, what I've done is I've shown, absolutely, we can prove that there were great floods. Certainly in North America, but it's showing of the evidence for these gigantic floods is showing up all over the planet. And they're directly related to the place to see the extinction of the megafauna. Because when you have a big flood, one of the things it does is it rips up part of the earth in one place and then dumps it somewhere else.
Starting point is 02:00:44 You have erosion and you have deposition. Well if an animal is caught in a flood and they're not completely ending up getting disarticulated, their remains will then wash down and be found in the flood deposits. Most of the remains, the fossilized remains of megafauna that we find are in mega flood deposits, in gravel pits, peat bogs, permafrost. So it looks to me like there was two factors. And if the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis is true, which is appearing to be more and more so the case, it means you had simultaneous huge fires followed by huge floods.
Starting point is 02:01:27 So what the fires didn't wipe out, the floods finished the job. There it is, the Younger Dryas, was in a period in Earth's geological history that occurred circa 12,900 to 11,700 years before present. I think we talked about that earlier, right Rob? They're younger drives, which is well Randall I need five hours with you. Okay, okay to go through everything With you because it's I don't think two hours when I'm doing a pot Rob in the future when we're doing a podcast with Randall let's set it up for three, four
Starting point is 02:02:05 hours instead of two hours, and maybe we'll do a two-hour break within, and then we'll do like a two-hour bathroom break and come back and do another one. Because there's so many things I want to talk to you about, but you know... I'd love to get into the Atlantis thing with you. I'd love to get into it. As a matter of fact, if you want to get into it for a few minutes, go for it. Well, we'll just say that I entered two terms, isostasy and eustasy.
Starting point is 02:02:26 Right. Yeah. Well, one of the things that we can see is that when all of the ice was removed from North America, you go up around Hudson Bay, where the ice was the thickest, it has rebounded well over 1,000 feet, maybe 1,500 feet. You can see shorelines elevated above modern sea level, right?
Starting point is 02:02:48 Hudson Bay, yeah, Hudson Bay was like the center of the ice sheet. Now what happens though is now all of that weight is being transferred off the continent back in and most of the ice melted ended up going into the Atlantic Ocean. Okay, there's a hinge point, I call it a hinge point, it's the mid-Atlantic ridge, and right where the Azores Plateau is, is what's called a triple plate junction. The African Plate, the Eurasian Plate, and the North American Plate reach, they meet each other right there at that triple plate junction. Go up north of the equator, Rob, and go over to where the Straits of Gibraltar is between Africa
Starting point is 02:03:36 and Spain, where the mouth of the Mediterranean is. There we go. Now if you go immediately is. We will, before we do, there we go. Now if you go immediately west of there, out to the mid-Atlantic ridge, there is a sunken plateau there. And we know it's sunken, we could, ah, okay, good. There, okay, now go west, back out a little, keep going, keep going. Let me see. Yeah, keep going. There it is right there. You see up there, there's the plateau. It's about the size of Iceland. It's now between a few hundred feet and a couple of thousand feet below the surface.
Starting point is 02:04:23 In some places it's a mile below the surface. And that used to be what, before? Well, it's likely that during the ice age it was above sea level. How much above sea level? Well, probably enough that you had an island right there that was about the size of Iceland. So now you can kind of make out there's a triple plate junction right there, which would be one of the most flexible parts of the whole Earth's continental land masses. Picture this.
Starting point is 02:04:53 So when that water is being moved off of the continents back into the ocean basin, just the laws of physics require that the ocean bottom subside. And there's a lot of empirical data that suggests that large portions of the sunken Azores Plateau was above sea level right down until the end of the last ice age. And in fact, there's evidence that it sank associated with Meltwater Pulse 1B. Interesting. And we could get into that. I mean, I gave a two-part lecture on that, and I didn't cover all of the evidence, but
Starting point is 02:05:37 it was about nine hours of it just laying out there. So why don't we do a follow-up part two to cover that? We could do all kinds of stuff. It's all integrated, and that's what I'm trying to do, is pull these disparate pieces together and show, well, we can explain Atlantis by isostasy. Look at Rob. Rob is not looking at a real estate website. He's looking at homes.
Starting point is 02:05:58 Rob, just stay focused on this guy's now texting his wife, should we buy this house or not? Okay. Well, that, I would say, now I'm not saying that was Atlantis, but I'm saying if you read Plato and his detailed accounts in Timaeus and Cretaceous, that is the most likely candidate for it right there. And we could have a whole cool discussion about that. It's a trip. I look forward about that. It's a trip. I look forward to that And the Azores the islands now are literally the peaks of mountains sunken mountains
Starting point is 02:06:30 So if you zoom in yeah, yeah there you see the Azores islands are mountains The base of those mountains is on the plateau. That's a mile below sea level Zooming a little bit more Rob? I'm planning to do an Azores trip sometime in 2025. How do you, where's the airport? I think it's probably, might be at Turchara. There is several airports there. Is that a volcano or what is that Rob? That's probably a volcano. They're volcanic.
Starting point is 02:07:12 Yeah, there it is. So you're planning on making a trip here? Yeah, sometime in 2025. And I've actually sent a couple of people out already to do recon. Really? Yeah. Go out there and get to know people. I now have these connections with some archaeologists that actually, you know, native archaeologists that do believe that that was the source of the Atlantis story. Well, just so you know, Matthew Lohmeyer just text me back from Space Force saying, I told him, I said, we're doing a podcast, your name came up, he says, amazing, I love that man,
Starting point is 02:07:53 tell him hello. So he's giving you his best. Okay, I love that guy too. Yep. Well, Randall, this has been fantastic. I can't wait till the next time. Where can people find you? If you want to drive people to a place, where would you want them to go to? Randall Carlson dot com. Randall Carlson dot com. Also howtube dot com. I'm partnering with them. And I'm also going to be, my new podcast is being hosted on Rumble. But I think all the links are there.
Starting point is 02:08:21 My website is being upgraded and updated as we speak, but RandallCarlson.com will get you to my stuff. What is it with this last name Carlson that are always talking interesting stuff? There's this other guy named Tucker Carlson. There's another guy named Billy Carlson. Billy is Billy Carson or Carlson? He's Carson. He's Carson, right?
Starting point is 02:08:44 No, Tucker Carlson. He's missing an L You're not related to Tucker at all. You guys well when I I interviewed with Tucker. Okay, and That was the first thing is are we long-lost cousins? Maybe I don't know. There's a lot of Carlson's up by ancestry. You got to do ancestry. Yeah Anyway, so we're gonna put the link below thereall, truly appreciate you for coming out. Hey, I loved it. Cannot wait for the next one. We'll do it again. I look forward to it.
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