PBD Podcast - Dennis Quaid: Reagan, Trump & JFK Assassinations, Fauci Relationship & Tupac | PBD Podcast | Ep. 453

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Starting point is 00:01:25 So, by the way, here's what you got to know. For the people that are watching it right now, live, podcasts all over the world, which you don't know that we just did, folks, what did we just watch the last two hours? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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Starting point is 00:01:41 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't podcasts all over the world, which you don't know that we just did, folks, what did we just watch the last two hours? We just had a premiere to watch the movie Reagan by the great Dennis Quaid, and right after the movie was done, they took the set down, now Dennis is going to come up, we're going to do a podcast together. For those of you who've been following Dennis' career for a while, what movies can we say?

Starting point is 00:02:07 Footloose, The Rookie, Any Given Sunday, what's your favorite movie by him? I mean, there's so many movies. For me, it was, you guys know this guy did a movie with Tupac. Did anybody know he did a movie with Tupac? It was gang related. So I got a lot of questions for him. There's a lot of, and by the way, he's probably not even knowing that I was going to ask him that question.

Starting point is 00:02:28 But with that being said, please stand up and give it up to the one and only Dennis Quaid! Hello! Oh my God. No idea. Please. What a movie, by the way. Oh, thank you.

Starting point is 00:02:49 What a movie. Thank you. I had my wife come out, the kids, I had the two sons, my daughter, the 12-year-old, 10-year-old, eight, I said, we got to watch this movie. Yeah, the whole family can watch it. How about that? That's a good thing about it, yes. Did you guys see it?

Starting point is 00:03:02 Yeah? Did you like it? Yeah. Yeah, the whole family can watch it. How about that? That's a good thing about it, yes. Did you guys see it? Yeah? Did you like it? Thank you. By the way, the only thing that some people are not going to be happy about the movie is I think I didn't see a lot of DEI in it, and it was disappointing.

Starting point is 00:03:19 I didn't see people from the underrepresented community. I was thinking maybe you're gonna play Hispanic Reagan. I thought it was gonna be like something to, but you missed the mark there. That's the only thing I wanna say. I think it's very important we talk about that. We tried as best we could, you know? We were in Oklahoma.

Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah. So a couple things while I'm watching it, I mean, I got a list of questions. There's some of the questions I wanna talk about that has to do with the movie. Some of it has to do with your career. You've been in this world for such a long time. Your brother's here with us, you know, in the back.

Starting point is 00:03:50 He was performing for us in the back, singing. And he's a... My brother, Buddy. My little brother. Yeah, which is fantastic. But some of it has to do with Hollywood. Some of it has to do with Reagan. Some of it has to do with you.

Starting point is 00:04:02 Some of it has to do with politics. But for me, while you were doing to do with you, some of it has to do with politics. But for me, while you were doing this movie and you're making this movie and you're seeing the similarities of some of the stuff that happened in the movie, assassination attempt makes it. Assassination attempt, right? He comes from the entertainment space, Trump comes from the entertainment space. President he went up against was Jimmy Carter,

Starting point is 00:04:24 president he went up against was Jimmy Carter, president he went up against was you know Joe Biden. While you're going through this, are you in the moment saying this is a bigger movie that everybody today has to see to go back and say the case study of Trump is possibly Ronald Reagan? Well it's the the times are very similar to what they were back in 78, in the late 70s, 79. We had hostages over in Iran, you know, that, and today nobody talks about it, but what about the hostages that are over in the Middle East right now, that Hamas is holding?

Starting point is 00:05:02 Nobody ever talks about it. You know, Reagan came into office, the hostages were released 20 minutes after he got into office. And because they didn't want to deal with him, because he was, you know, they believed 80% that he might do something, I think. And then, you know, also, you had oil was a big thing. The gas prices were high. The interest rates back then were 20%.

Starting point is 00:05:33 I know because I actually bought a house then. So, what was I thinking? I'm still paying for it. But. How much was the house? How much was the house you bought back then? I was building a house in Montana and well, I had to actually, you know, I didn't declare bankruptcy but I, you know, paid the loan off but it just got sky high. And you know, there was some very times. And Jimmy Carter had given that speech about...

Starting point is 00:06:08 that we were going through a period of malaise, if you'll remember. And, you know, America was a nation in decline. Its time was done. And Reagan came along and said, no, we're not. He told us that we were a shining city on a hill and that the best times for America were...

Starting point is 00:06:31 they were in the future, and we were going to create everything that was gonna take us there. And he did. Now, when you go back there, Dennis, were you somebody who voted for him? Because in the past, you said you didn't. So you voted for Reagan in...

Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah, I also voted for Jimmy Carter. I voted for Jimmy Carter. I'm an independent, by the way. I've always been. I voted both ways according to what I thought, you know, the pendulum swings this way and what we need. But I voted for Jimmy Carter. You know, it was after Watergate.

Starting point is 00:07:03 It was, uh, He was an outsider. But you know, he didn't work out too well when it came to that. But Reagan, I'd been a fan of Reagan, I mean, since I was a kid. It was in 1964. Reagan was giving the speech. He was stumping for gold water. And my dad and I were in the car on the way down to Galveston from Houston.

Starting point is 00:07:34 That's where I'm from. My dad was, like, hitting the dashboard. You know, he was really... he loved Reagan. And that's the first time I had noticed Reagan as a political figure. He was the guy that sold Barraxo soap on Death Valley days, on TV, you know? And... This is when you worked for GE?

Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, I did, but then I did vote for Reagan in 1980. And I came home. I was in L.A. and I came home. I had a roommate, and he said, "'Who'd you vote for?' I, I had a roommate and he said, who'd you vote for? I said, Reagan. He said, you are kicked out of the hippies. So I turned in my card and that was that. So how long would you say you've been in the entertainment business?

Starting point is 00:08:20 If you were to say, you know, I started in 19, what would you say was the first? Well, I moved to LA in 75. Okay. In 1975. So, 75, who is the biggest star in Hollywood in 75? Jack Nicholson. So, Jack, and you named your son after Jack Nicholson. Yeah, Brian O'Neill, I think, was the biggest.

Starting point is 00:08:37 Actually, the biggest box office at that time was Chris Christopherson. Everybody forgets about him. He was the biggest box office star three years in a row. But it was Jack Nicholson. It was that time in the 70s. We had anti-heroes, rebel heroes going on. It was a really golden age in movies back then. Because the studios had really kind of lost touch

Starting point is 00:09:06 with their audience. And this French New Wave thing, like starting with Bonnie and Clyde, and The Godfather, and there was a lot of great movies back then. It was a great time to come out to LA. What's been the evolution from 75 to 2024 today, in Hollywood?

Starting point is 00:09:25 In Hollywood? Well, you know, the 70s was like the decade of the director, and then I think the 80s really became the decade and a half or whatever of the movie stars again and then became the agencies who really kind of ran things and packaged deals and now I tell you the truth if anyone came streaming I don't know anymore and I don't think that I think we're right back again you know that fits the times of back then, that Hollywood has lost touch with its audience. They used to make each studio, there'd be like five major studios, they would make at least 40 films a year,

Starting point is 00:10:16 and that would be from the spectrum to the blockbusters down to smaller movies. And now, I think, eight to 10 each. They've got to be blockbusters. They've got to be big tentpole movies. And so film is kind of up in the air. Maybe that's a weird question to ask you on film 75 versus today in Hollywood.

Starting point is 00:10:44 So I went a little bit deeper when they came out saying if you want to win an Oscar, Maybe that's a weird question to ask you on film 75 versus today in Hollywood because so I went a little bit deeper when they came out saying if you want to win an Oscar right now you need to have a third of the people working on the set being part of the underrepresented community, a third of actors need to be this, a third of directors need to be this, one of the key roles need to be this, whether it's black, Hispanic, disability, all this stuff that they've done. If you don't do this you will not be nominated for a movie. roles need to be this, whether it's black, Hispanic, disability, all this stuff that they've done. If you don't do this, you will not be nominated for a movie.

Starting point is 00:11:07 So some of the biggest Oscar-ward-winning movies of all time that won't happen, you know, that part of it for us as the viewers, as the fans that want to go watch a movie, when did you see the tipping point about how that happened and how do you feel about it? Well, it's... as far as the Oscars, it's always been political. It's always been skewed left, you know, I would think. You know, and, uh... But they did give John Wayne a Best Actor award back then. And, uh, but it's always been skewed to the left.

Starting point is 00:11:42 And, um, you know, but recently, with all these things that you've got to have in films, otherwise, you've got to have... There's a loss of freedom of expression, I think, has been lost in filmmaking with that voice because everybody's trying to be so politically correct. You know, back in the 70s, it may have been skewed left, but everybody was trying to be politically incorrect back then. That was the thing, you know, and it was an exciting time, actually. And this is the way you have a real dialogue with people

Starting point is 00:12:24 instead of trying to fit into a mold. So the skewed left. One time, one of my guys, his ex-wife, and he's sitting there, we're in Woodland Hills in my office, we're having this conversation, and she is a die-hard AOC fan. And she's telling us how amazing AOC is. And then I'm listening to her, and I ask her,

Starting point is 00:12:44 I said, let me ask you, how good were you, what was your favorite subject in high school? She said, oh, English. I said, what subject did you hate the most? She says, I couldn't stand math. I said, got it. I said, how much do you think not liking math has to do with which way you vote politically? So she said, you know, I never thought about it that way

Starting point is 00:13:02 before, because if you like math and you understand the basics of math, you'll understand that capitalism works. It's a great model to have. And even later on, by the way, as weird as this sounds, so later on, we did research here to find out, out of school teachers in America, different types of school teachers,

Starting point is 00:13:18 what they, you know, they vote for, left or right. English teachers, 98 out of 100 English teachers, vote for, left or right. English teachers, 98 out of 100 English teachers vote for the left. Arts vote for the left. All of these things, you go 97, 98, 99. There was only one of them where that 98 dropped to 83, and that was math. So if somebody was a math teacher or a physics teacher, 13% of them would vote for conservatives. Why do you think so much of Hollywood is on the left? Is it just because they're more right-brain creative and not a lot of left-brain?

Starting point is 00:13:53 Well, I kind of feel like it's kind of always been like that. California itself has gone... It used to be a lot more conservative than it is now, but really over the past, I'd say, 30 years, it's really been... You wouldn't consider Newsom a conservative? He's a... I said it used to be... conservative.

Starting point is 00:14:18 You know, the Republican, Ronald Reagan himself was governor of California. And it's... conservative, you know, Republican. Ronald Reagan himself was governor of California. And it's, it's really changed, and it's, I don't know, it's, that's just the way it is. I don't know, but the red-brain, left-brain thing about, you know, being liberal or whatever? I think there's a lot more conservatives that are actors.

Starting point is 00:14:52 They just are afraid to talk about it more than anything else. Then my question would be, who's imposing the fear though, Dennis? So because a lot of actors, I'll do a podcast with Rogan, or I'll do a podcast here myself. One of the directors from movies that I absolutely love, I go to L.A. and he says,

Starting point is 00:15:09 let's have dinner together, have dinner with them. He says, you have to realize, pre-2020, I was a liberal. He says, now I'm more of a libertarian. I'm center-right. This stuff doesn't make any sense to me right now. I asked, I said, who is putting the fear in these guys where if you're a conservative, you have to say, I'm an independent?

Starting point is 00:15:28 You have to kind of keep it to yourself, because God forbid you come out too much on the conservative side, you may get fired, unless if your name is Clint Eastwood, they're worried he's going to shoot them or, you know, hurt them, because it's a risk if you go out to Clint. Yeah, Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, and Charles... Yeah, they're going to do something.

Starting point is 00:15:42 Get away with it. Well, I actually have been at an independent, if you go after Clint. What is it with John Wayne and Charles McEntyre? They're going to do something. Get away with it. Well, I actually have been an independent all my life. Recently, I did Piers Morgan, and he asked me who I was voting for. And I said, I'm going to vote for Trump. Because he said, are you ready for that? He said, get ready for the blowback, you know?

Starting point is 00:16:08 But my thing is, is that it's really about our Constitution. And once they... I wasn't going to vote for Trump this time, even though I voted for him in 2016 and voted for him in 2020, I thought, maybe we need to calm down and kind of get together. And I voted for him in 2016 and voted for him in 2020. I thought, maybe we need to calm down and kind of get together.

Starting point is 00:16:27 But when they started using the justice system to go after him, that was kind of like the last straw, because we have a Constitution, and that's precious. And I started getting into that. I'm definitely voting for him. Have you spent a lot of time with him? Yeah, I played golf with him.

Starting point is 00:16:52 How was he behind closed doors with your relationship with him? He's actually a pretty good golfer. He may fib a little bit, like everybody else. Found my first one. But then he'll put it, like, two feet from the cop, you know, from 160 yards away. He's very funny, and he's, you know, I really believe his heart is for the American people.

Starting point is 00:17:19 He's authentic. That's what I do know. So you're saying Kamala's not authentic? I mean, she's a... That's an insult right there. When you say something like that... I'm still trying to figure out those suits that she wears. But...

Starting point is 00:17:36 So... So... Zach Galifianak has had Hillary Clinton on, and I don't know if you've seen that exchange or not. Have you ever seen that? Between two ferns. Between two ferns. He is.

Starting point is 00:17:48 That was like a career ending. I got to feel that way now, but... I'll play Zach without the beer today. But what? I'll play Zach without the beer today. But first interaction you ever had with Trump, what year was it? And what was the set? Oh, see, um, I, uh... I went to an island in the, uh, in the Caribbean.

Starting point is 00:18:10 He had a golf tournament down there. What island are we talking about? There's an island here you don't want to visit. Which island are you talking about? I don't think I'm allowed to say, but... But we had a really good time. You know, he's just like... We had a really good time.

Starting point is 00:18:32 There wasn't no... It doesn't begin with an E who owned the island, okay? So, it's good you verify that, because next thing you know, story comes out. Dennis visited the E Island. So, is there a relationship? Like you guys talk regularly, or it's not a friendship? We don't talk regularly. Okay, got it.

Starting point is 00:18:56 No, we don't. But, you know, I've seen him a few times, and played golf with him, as I said. And, uh, recently, he sent me a birthday message this year, which was really, I think, really, really nice. And, you know, I think he has a really good heart. He really does. He's, uh... But, you know, at the bottom of it, I think he is really out there fighting for the American people. I think a lot of people probably, from his side, would agree with you.

Starting point is 00:19:29 So you said you're an independent. In your mind, for somebody, when you say you're an independent, what does an independent look like? Well, an independent votes, is not connected to... is not a member of either party. I mean, for instance, like I told you, I voted for Jimmy Carter, I voted for Reagan twice. I voted for Ross Perot.

Starting point is 00:19:48 I voted for Clinton once, you know. I voted for Bush once. I voted for... I voted for Gore, too, actually, at the time, because just because it was like, let's keep this party going, the economy was sailing along, I voted for Gore, too, actually, at the time, just because it was like, let's keep this party going. The economy was sailing along.

Starting point is 00:20:07 And, you know, we had a surplus. Then I voted for Bush for second term. Yeah, I voted for Obama once. And then when the red line came that, you know, said don't cross, and they crossed it, and he did nothing. That voted... I didn't vote that year. Only time I never voted.

Starting point is 00:20:32 So not a fan of Rodney. But the last three times has been Trump, Trump, Trump. I'm so sorry. I don't think it's ever happened before since Franklin Roosevelt, where you could vote for somebody three times. Except in, you know... It's slightly different. Well, where were you going with this?

Starting point is 00:20:48 Except, you know, you vote when you're... Dead people vote, it seems like. That's right. But let me go back to it, because, you know, again, 1975, you know, 2024, you've been around a lot of these guys. One of the scenes in the movie, which, you know, 2024, you've been around a lot of these guys. One of the scenes in the movie, which, by the way,

Starting point is 00:21:09 I can't wait for those of you that are watching this podcast, there's this scene with Victor. What's his last name? Victor, is it Petrovich? I think it's Victor Petrovich, right? It is, which is played by John Voight. And in the scene, he is the spy, right? And he's having this conversation. He says, hey, why did you do this?

Starting point is 00:21:26 Why did you allow us to go through what happened here? And he said his job as a spy was to spread communism to every country in the world. In the movie, Reagan, he says, try to break them down from within, even their movie industry. My assignment was to attract and influence their key players. History is always about not the why, not the what, not the how, but it's about the who, who you target. His obsession became about the Crusader for 17 years, way before Reagan gave that speech about we're on a mission rendezvous with destiny, that kind of thing.

Starting point is 00:22:02 That was 17 years this Russian spy's been following Ronald Reagan, and then he says, at some point you're gonna have to pick your side when Reagan's in that scene. So this is where I'm going with this part. Reagan's at the party, he's with Jane, and the guy's like, so who are you gonna pick? Are you gonna be with us or with them? He says, right now my only pick is Jane. I wanna go dance with her, right?

Starting point is 00:22:22 And she goes away and dances. And then there's that fight with Union, where they take out the gun and they almost shoot Reagan. That whole scene that's super intense. Who is the modern-day Reagan, who's a conservative within Hollywood, that has some say, that's got some brass, that's got some influence, that could actually expose

Starting point is 00:22:41 some of the insanity that's taking place in an influential industry like Hollywood? Is there somebody like... You're talking about modern day. Who is that person? I want to know who that is today. Well, I think what's actually what is happening

Starting point is 00:22:52 is that Hollywood is not necessarily... It's becoming not the center of filmmaking. You've really in the last two decades, I think it's started happening. It's started moving away. What's going on in Georgia, for instance? You've, uh, really, in the last two decades, I think it started happening. It started moving away. What's going on in Georgia, for instance? I did a movie in, uh, Georgia.

Starting point is 00:23:11 You know, they started this with tax incentives and stuff like that to get people to come there. But they've got a real industry going there. I was... I did a film there a couple of months ago, and there was 196 different film productions going on at the same time. They built studios for it. And so it's moving out.

Starting point is 00:23:29 The, uh, uh, faith films, which I think are really starting to really find their legs, uh, that, uh, movies that... movies that actually speak to audiences, you know, I think people don't go to audiences, you know, I think people don't go to movies because there's no movie to see that they really relate to, in a sense, that hits them.

Starting point is 00:23:57 And because people don't go to movies to see things, they go to movies to feel things. And they want to relate and identify with them. I did as a kid, you know? It was wonderful. But it's moving out of LA. And LA, like, let's take faith films. Hollywood doesn't even know how to track them as far as what the... you know,

Starting point is 00:24:25 how much money they're gonna make. Like, two weeks before a film's the weekend, and you have, like, six films coming out, they start to do these tracking about how much it's gonna make at the box office. And I was in a film, I can only imagine it was called. And thank you. And, uh, you know, they tracked it, but it wasn't gonna make

Starting point is 00:24:47 even $2 million that weekend. And it wound up making $17 million, you know. And they're scratching their heads. And then all of a sudden, all the studios are getting these kind of representatives to go out and make faith movies, you know, to tell them, instruct them on how to do it, because they want to break into the market. But, you know, they're just, they're after the money,

Starting point is 00:25:14 not after really the... what's behind the film as far as, as far as what they're about. So, so is it fair to... I mean, I can only imagine... That's the one with the song of Mercy Me, right? I can only imagine. Yeah, right.

Starting point is 00:25:31 It's a great song. Did you watch Jesus Revolution? Yeah. I thought it was amazing, the story of Greg Laurie. At first when I watched it, I didn't know what the movie was about. I thought they were mocking Jesus, and that's what it was. Then when my kids are putting it up, we sat there watching, what a great movie, phenomenal story.

Starting point is 00:25:47 It was about an hour out of nowhere, I get a text from Greg Laurie saying, hey, thanks for watching it, I'm glad you enjoyed it. But going back to it, do you think, do you think eventually, like when you see right now what's going on with Disney, right? Bob Iger, I don't know if you've ever done business with Bob Iger or not, maybe, have you ever done business

Starting point is 00:26:04 with Bob over the years? Well, I may have, but I wasn't know if you've ever done business with Bob Iger or not, maybe, have you ever done business with Bob over the years? Well, I may have, but I wasn't in the room with him. My agents did business with him. Have you ever had interaction with Bob? Not really, no. Okay. So Bob, CEO of Disney, he retires at the top, Disney's worth $368 billion, comes back, you know, him and Bob Schapek are trying to make Disney work. That whole Jacqueline Kennedy story behind closed doors

Starting point is 00:26:26 and valuation drops $200 billion. You know, that's a lot of money to be lost for a company. And then every time you go watch a Disney movie nowadays with the kids, my son, the first thing the 12-year-old will say says, here we go again. Is this gonna be one of those movies? So my 12-year-old checks before we go and watch the movies, because he doesn't want his 8-year-old sister

Starting point is 00:26:44 to watch a Disney movie that's a little bit out of whack. So he's not being proactive about it. So my 12-year-old checks before we go and watch the movies, because he doesn't want his 8-year-old sister to watch a Disney movie that's a little bit out of whack. So he's not being proactive about it, and he'll come to me. We're in a movie. My son will come to me and say, hey, you have to be the responsible father right now. Take your kids out of this room.

Starting point is 00:26:57 This is not a... That's literally what my son will tell me. Take your kids out of this place, because this is not good for your kids. So do you think, do you think they're sitting there? You tell me, take your kids out of this place because this is not good for your kids. So do you think, do you think they're sitting there, I can only imagine, this thing's not going to do nothing but $2 million, $17 million. We got to all become Christians and get to make money.

Starting point is 00:27:17 Like do you think money and capitalism is going to force these guys to go back to being reasonable and logical, or are they going to stay delusional? I think it... I think they'll try, you know, because there's a market there. But that market is really out in the middle of the country. I mean, the Irwin brothers, who are so good at this, they were directed and produced the Jesus Revolution, and I could only imagine.

Starting point is 00:27:44 And they... You know, because they're already in the community, and they have a base there, and they're making films that people want to see. You know, there's a hunger out there, I think, for themes and stories that people can relate to, that fit their lives and aspire to be.

Starting point is 00:28:11 And I think there's that whole faith community and, you know, aspirational within that, with American values and the way we live our lives, you know? Who we are. And instead of having, you know, who we are, and instead of having, you know, being told what to feel, what to think, it's happening. It's... it's slow.

Starting point is 00:28:38 But it's coming. So in the... I like to, like, read between the lines and see kind of where you're going with it, to see if I'm improving in that area. Are you kind of eluding to the fact that there could be a possibility that Bob Iger could be maybe becoming a Christian and becomes like a Pastor Iger, like, some kind of, you know, and he changes Disney and he starts saying,

Starting point is 00:28:58 we got to go back to what Disney was built for kids, or that's... we don't believe in that level of miracles? Well, I would welcome Bob Iger if he became a Christian into the community. But it's... But, uh... I think the center is going to move. I think it just feels like...

Starting point is 00:29:18 If I was an actor starting out now, I wouldn't go to Hollywood. I would go to Georgia. Because that's where they're gonna be hiring the smaller parts that I could get as an actor starting out. Right? They're not gonna pay to bring those smaller roles from L.A. So that's where I could, you know,

Starting point is 00:29:37 get a start in the business. Wow. If you were an actor, you wouldn't go to L.A. You'd go to Georgia. Yeah. You know, Tyler Perry's... So the center... the center is moving. You don't necessarily have to be in L.A. in order to make a movie anymore.

Starting point is 00:29:55 The center is moving. The center is moving. So not the left, but the center is moving out of California. Is that what, like, Mark Wahlberg moves to Vegas? Just like everything else moving out of California. Is that what like Mark Wahlberg moves to Vegas? Just like everything else moving out of California. Well, I mean, listen, I honestly, I try to avoid making fun of California on my podcast because I don't like to do it.

Starting point is 00:30:11 It's a rule I follow. I don't like to make fun of California because I have a lot of respect for them. I'm not making fun of them, just stating facts. Well, I didn't want to go there, but if you want to call them out, you call them out. I think Newsom's a sweetheart of a guy, but. So, okay, let's go back to it.

Starting point is 00:30:27 Let's go back. Well, LA has been very, very good to me. But it's changed so much. Where did you live? It's not the place that I was there. It's like, I don't feel like an exchange of ideas. It's being politically correct all the time. And it's kind of like a lot of fear.

Starting point is 00:30:51 I kind of feel there. And that's why I moved to Nashville, because to get back into the center of the country and just feel more at home there. Nashville? Yeah. I used to live right outside of Nashville when I was in the Army, Clarksville, you know, the 101st Airborne Division.

Starting point is 00:31:10 And I used to go to Nashville and I used to go learn how to dance at Silverado's. They've never met a 6'4", Middle Eastern, trying to dance country. It was a spectacle. I'd go to that hard body contest, but I would learn how to do their thing and walk around it. It was, everyone was confused. It was fantastic. You know, it was a great thing.

Starting point is 00:31:30 Were you wearing a flannel shirt? I, I had no choice. But many times I wasn't even wearing a shirt. That's how great of a club the Silverados was. But you know what's the good news? You don't know if I'm telling the truth or not because there was no Instagram back in the day. It could be deep fake, right, as what it could be. But let me go back to it.

Starting point is 00:31:46 I asked the question, I don't know if, maybe for my own stubborn curiosity side, I want to know what causes Hollywood to be left. You're around these guys. You've been around them for 49 years. After you do a movie, you don't have a choice but go have dinner or lunch or talk or play cards or whatever you guys do together, right?'t have a choice but go have dinner or lunch or talk or play cards

Starting point is 00:32:05 or whatever you guys do together, right? What do you see as the common trend that makes all them be on the... most of them be on the left? I really kind of see it as everything is turned upside down. You know, like, forget about the left and right and conservative, Republican, and Democrat. It used to be, you know, in Hollywood, it was to, you know, be a rebel,

Starting point is 00:32:28 to be, you know, somebody like an outsider, you know, not the establishment. And that's what was going on. It was what was so exciting, like, in the 70s and everything. And that slowly turned now, like, to the other side. You know, now that it... to be left is to be basically the status quo and to be politically correct.

Starting point is 00:32:57 And, you know, I kind of feel like even the Republican Party has kind of become the party of... like the common man. You know, it used like even the Republican Party has kind of become the party of, like, the common man. You know, it used to be the Republican Party was the party of, you know, the rich fat cats or whatever. And that's... now it's, you know, the corporations are... are with the Democrats, and the regular people are with the Republican. Would you say...

Starting point is 00:33:28 I'm not looking for names. I'm just wondering what you'd say. Would you say there are more big players behind closed doors that talk to each other but never want to reveal their cards of where they're at politically to the public, where you guys talk and you respect each other's privacy, because as professionals, you've been around for a while.

Starting point is 00:33:48 Especially during COVID, it was like the first time I'd ever experienced that with, you know, people that... I worked, you know, in agencies and... publicists and in studios. You know, you were... They were telling... even telling me, like, don't say anything about, you know, about politics or the way you feel or, you know...

Starting point is 00:34:13 because, you know, you could lose your job or whatever with that, or you're going to lose half your audience. At least that was the... the subliminal message on it. But then you... At least that was the subliminal message on it. But then you... I see so many actors, you know,

Starting point is 00:34:30 going on a late-night talk show or whatever. As long as you were talking, you know, about Biden or whatever or endorsing a Democrat, you know, you were fine. But if you were endorsing a Republican or Trump, you were, you know, they don't even want you. I remember Vince Vaughn. What's with that? We've got to be able to talk with each other, right?

Starting point is 00:34:53 Well, but I'm wondering from you, why is that, though? Who are they afraid of? Who is at the top that scares the crap out of everybody? Well, why do Republicans take it for so long? You know, it's, You know, we kind of... You can't let people take that away from you. It's our right as Americans to be able to have a conversation. What should Republicans do?

Starting point is 00:35:16 If you're saying they can't... Speak up. Don't be afraid to speak up just because it's awkward. That's what I say. You mean Republican actors? Or conservative, or if you're... Just even if you're a Democrat, don't be afraid to speak up

Starting point is 00:35:29 if you're in a room full of Republicans. We need to start talking and arguing with each other about the issues and what's important so that we can come to some sort of agreement eventually. We pass each other on the street all the time. But, you know, once we find out that somebody's on the other side, we put a label on them. And we have to...

Starting point is 00:35:54 we have to start remembering that we're Americans, you know? And it's okay to make fun of each other. It's okay to talk. It's the only way we're gonna get back to... to what it used to talk. It's the only way we're going to get back to... to what it used to be. Yeah, you know, that reminds me of the scene, Tip O'Neill, when they're seeing each other. I read a book by Chris Matthews about Tip and I,

Starting point is 00:36:15 or Tip and the Gipper, or something like that, where he talks about the relationship between Tip O'Neill and Reagan, and he says, hey, you know, one thing you got to know about me, we can fight all we want until 6, but after 6 o'clock, we're two Irishmen, let's go grab a beer, right? Like, is that what you're talking about? Kind of to go back to that?

Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. And they really had that, they really had that relationship. Yeah, Tip O'Neill would come over to the White House sometimes several times a week, and talk about legislation, or just get to know each other as people at the same time. And, you know, the truth is, Republicans and Democrats, they need each other.

Starting point is 00:36:54 And they really do. They keep each other from going too far one way or the other. Because, you know, in the end, that's what will happen. And I know George Washington didn't want rep... didn't want political parties, in fact. But you got to be for this and there's... or for that. And so that's what political parties, you know, function as. But we do need each other.

Starting point is 00:37:23 We just... we need to have some real exchange, I think. To want to, it... Back then, here's another big difference about back then, is you had liberal Republicans, and you had conservative Democrats. And now it's just black and white. So it's... Wow, it's interesting what you just said.

Starting point is 00:37:43 Can you say that one more time? Yeah, you had liberal Republicans, And now it's just black and white. So it's... Wow, it's interesting what you just said. Can you say that one more time? Yeah, you had liberal Republicans, and you had conservative Democrats. Can you tell us what that looked like for some of us that maybe didn't know?

Starting point is 00:37:55 Well, it's... A lot of it was... You had a lot of the South, you know, they had a lot of Democrats down there, which are now like red states. And it's because that's the way the American people are. The American people as a whole are near the center. And so there's some... And the parties, there was hardly really much difference

Starting point is 00:38:23 between the two, I think. You know, but... And it made it work. I think it worked a lot better than it's doing now. Now you've got to just be on this side or that, and nothing gets done. But any part of the movie persuade you to get into office or get into politics.

Starting point is 00:38:49 I mean... No, not in the least. Zero. No C at all. Because, I mean, you just turned 70 this year. That's very young today, to run for office as a president. Seven years old today, you're like a 22-year-old. You know, it's a... No, thanks. No part of the movie. Like, you know like a 22-year-old. You know, it's a... No, thanks.

Starting point is 00:39:05 No part of the movie. Like, you know how sometimes you play this movie, you're like, you know, I thought about I'm a this, or I'm a that, like Heath Ledger, he really thought... You know, all these things, you really get into the part. You say, honey, I think I'm thinking about I want to do something. I really love my leisure time...

Starting point is 00:39:20 audience laughs ...too much. And, um... You know, I get them, but just as a citizen, that's all. I feel it's all... We all have a responsibility to speak out. You know, we have a responsibility to vote. And I think we have a responsibility to get along with one another eventually and work this out. That's how all these, like, strange things start happening,

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Starting point is 00:40:37 You know what's great about ambition? You can't see it. Some things look ambitious, but looks can be deceiving. For example, a runner could be training for a marathon, or they could be late for the bus. You never know. Ambition is on the inside. So that road trip bucket list?

Starting point is 00:40:56 Get after it. Drive your ambition. Mitsubishi Motors. You really don't want to do movies anymore. I'm really getting the trend. You're definitely not getting a Disney job moving forward. That's it for you with these Disney gigs. Okay, since you brought that up, since you want to go there. You said 75, right? From 75 to 2024. Rob, what was the U.S. population in 75?

Starting point is 00:41:30 Can you pull it up? U.S. population, 1975, what is it, 250, 240? What's the number? Yeah, that sounds about right. Sounds about right. 100, do you have it, Rob? Okay, 216. Wow, we had a lot of kids.

Starting point is 00:41:44 That's good. Well, we definitely have stopped making babies? Okay, talk 216. Wow, we had a lot of kids. That's good. Well, we definitely have stopped making babies, but that was 216, so add another 130 million kids that we've had since 75. When you got into movies, were there as many folks who were LGBTQ as there is today, or was it about the same? I'm sure, you mean percentage-wise? I'm sure... Percentage-wise. Yeah, I'm sure it's the same as it was back then.

Starting point is 00:42:10 You think so? Well, I'm just talking about you're born a certain way, and, you know, you just are that way. Whether you speak up about it, I don't... You know, they... I don't know. But it's like, now it seems like everybody is. Well, that's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:42:27 Yeah. So you are kind of getting the feeling that... It seems like everybody is. But I think, you know, they say like one in ten or whatever. And you know, it wasn't, you know, people are people. I, you know, it's... I think there was a lot more kind of interaction, and I think there was... In our culture, it was a lot easier back,

Starting point is 00:42:57 like, in the 70s, to have kind of interaction between different... different sexes and different cultures of all that. We got along better because we could make fun of one another, we could laugh with one another. And now it's like a quota system or something. I love how this topic makes you so comfortable.

Starting point is 00:43:22 You just got so comfortable. It really does. Could you guys tell how comfortable he got with the topic? That's why I don't want to go into politics. Well I mean, I don't know what's happened since 75 till today, but apparently more people are being born that way today, according to, maybe it's a scientific thing that you see that. No, but you know, for me, when you're going out, seeing some of the stuff that's going... The other day, I'm in the Hamptons, we're there for a couple weeks, my kid, we found a local team for him to go play.

Starting point is 00:43:54 And 10-year-old league, coaches from Britain, sick coach, phenomenal coach, where I practiced two boys, 10 years old, are kissing each other. And I'm like, what the... I don't at all, maybe you went to school in Houston and there was a lot of boys kissing each other. I went to school in Iran, honestly, at 10 years old if you kissed each other you're dead. It was different standards they had in Tehran, Iran. Well, you know, I'm definitely not,

Starting point is 00:44:20 seems to me like it's almost like encouraged now. Yeah, see that's the price where I'm kind process where a lot of the school system's about. And then the parents can't know. Definitely not for that stuff. You're going back after California again. How can you know... I don't think you really know who you are sexually until, uh... You know, at least 18, get to be an adult.

Starting point is 00:44:40 You know? And, uh... Instead of suggesting that you might be, you know, from school or whatever, and that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And then you can't take it back, you know? You can't be like, can you stick it back on? Is that what you're saying? Is that what, because visually I just went there. There is no, can I get a refund?

Starting point is 00:45:09 I don't know what you've got going on, but no, it's not a snap-on. Let's go put this thing back on. That's a, I never thought about it that way. There are no refunds when you cut it off. That's a very good point. See, this is why we have you here, to kind of educate us. Well, I think what you're... You know, at the bottom of all this, what I think we really need to get back to

Starting point is 00:45:31 is having a meritocracy in this country. When it comes to jobs, when it comes to, like, you know, getting into schools, and forget quotas, we got to have a meritocracy so that we have the best people that are there and raise our standards about it. You know, I'm sick of that thinking of we're, what are we, 30th as far as education and you know, compared to the rest of the world.

Starting point is 00:46:02 And it's... If we don't, we're gonna... We're gonna lose a lot. We already have. So I read some word that said, I think, on August 22nd. Today is the second. By the way, just so you guys know, you're having a premiere today.

Starting point is 00:46:19 On August 22nd, there's a premiere. You've invited Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, President Trump, and RFK, if I'm not mistaken, right? And, like, do you think President Biden will fully grasp the story if he watches? And JD Vance, we invited him. You invited JD Vance as well. So what is the likelihood all five show up?

Starting point is 00:46:49 Wow, that'd be better than the black journalist conference the other day. That's what's going on. So. So you're saying there's a chance is what you're saying. I mean Reagan was a Democrat back in the, you know, long ago. Can you imagine all of them sitting in their room watching the Reagan movie together today? The likelihood of that happening.

Starting point is 00:47:06 I'd be curious if that actually doesn't happen. Okay, so let's go on a positive story. I want to kind of take you to a positive angle. You know, you said, I mean, this is the part, when I think about someone who's super optimistic and the way you handle this, I just thought about it. It would be a fantastic transition for us to make here.

Starting point is 00:47:26 So you said the electric grid could be the next 9-11. Why are you so optimistic about that? With, you know... Because you're talking about EMTs. Yes. Yeah. And, well, because it's going to happen, either by the sun or by a bad actor or a terrorist out there.

Starting point is 00:47:46 It's becoming very easy. You could send up a very dirty nuclear missile that was on a cargo ship off the southern coast of the Gulf of Mexico. If you explode that in outer space, you don't even see the explosion, because there's no oxygen there. But it will knock out every electronic...

Starting point is 00:48:11 the electrical grid blackout, and we will... They don't just fix that in a couple of days. That would be months. And could go on for even for years. And, you know, that would be months, and could go on for even for years. And, you know, there'd be starvation within a couple of months of that.

Starting point is 00:48:32 And it's, we could, we have the ability to protect our grid from that. You know, these black, these rolling blackouts that you've seen that have come up. But the last time, like, from the sun, there was the solar flares that come off of them. They send out... The wave comes out and hits the Earth. We missed one by just a couple of days

Starting point is 00:49:01 as we go through our orbit around the sun just recently. But the last major one was in the 1870s, and it knocked out the entire telegraph system. That was the only thing that was really electrical at the time, and just, you know, melted it. Had to rebuild the whole thing. How long have you been worried about this? Like, when did you start saying,

Starting point is 00:49:27 yeah, I really think this is gonna be happening? I saw a thing on 60 Minutes about it a few years ago, and we really started researching it. And then David Tice, who produced a movie David Tice, who produced a movie that I... a Soul Surfer, he's really gotten involved and, you know, really trying to help out, like, private industry to really... as well as these companies, the electric companies.

Starting point is 00:50:00 We have... there's three different grids, and a lot of these electric companies are local, too, so nobody wants to just do it by themselves. So we need to get, you know, the government involved and private industry and the local companies to protect our grid. It really wouldn't take much compared to what we're gonna lose if we don't.

Starting point is 00:50:26 And the Russians are... and the Chinese are taking steps towards doing that. But it could be a knockout blow, especially, like, with, like, a dirty bomb. Did you watch Leave the World Behind? Uh, no, I did not. You know which movie I'm talking about, with Julia Roberts and Obama? Oh, yes, I did not. You know which movie I'm talking about, with Julia Roberts and Obama?

Starting point is 00:50:47 Yes, I did, actually. I did see that film. What did you think about it? It kind of resembled what it would look like in a way if an event like that happened. You know, because we... immediately we would go back to pre-1920s, back to the 19th century, everybody had been living in the dark, you wouldn't be able to refrigerate food,

Starting point is 00:51:13 you'd have no transportation because you couldn't have gas deliveries or anything like that, everything would shut down. It would make COVID look like a cakewalk and everything would break down very quickly. It would make COVID look like a cakewalk. And it... Everything would break down very quickly. And it's really fun to talk about, but it's not really not a question of...

Starting point is 00:51:37 It's only a question of when. You say it's fun to talk about? I'm glad you like this kind of stuff. Yeah. This is fun for you. Well, everybody gets really silent when you talk about it. So, did you at all sit down and say, why would President Barack Obama do a video about a movie about a power grid and have his name being attached to it?

Starting point is 00:51:55 That's like, let's just say, President Trump was the executive producer for a movie saying, you know, the next nuclear war, right? And people say, why would you produce and fund a movie about the nuclear war? So was Barack Obama doing it because he thought it was a great investment opportunity, or was it more predictive programming? Well, I think recently, I mean, even Bush was concerned about it, too. If you're president, you know, you get given this stuff,

Starting point is 00:52:26 and it's... this is not political, and not a political issue at all, as far as any kind of partisanship. You know, it's just something that we can all work together. We all... it... we almost need, like, a Manhattan Project, really, for everybody to come together on it. But the idea of doing a movie like that,

Starting point is 00:52:50 you think it's just, I think it's a cool movie, let's do it. You think that's all it is, to do a movie like that. Were you saying there was some sort of ulterior motive? No, I think it's either I look at the noble side, Barack Obama's so deeply concerned about us that he wants to educate us or he is so much wanting to Get us to be afraid of it. So when it happens, they're like I told you what's gonna happen, but you know what I'm saying like No, I think I think that it was a cautionary tale, you know for all of us You know noble that goes beyond politics. Right. Really.

Starting point is 00:53:25 Got it. Well, I'm glad you like this topic. Something I'm concerned about. How are you prepared for it? So for some of us that are watching this, you know, nowadays we go shopping at the discount store. Well, it used to be 99-cent store. There's no longer 99.

Starting point is 00:53:37 Maybe we go to Dick's Sporting Goods. How do you prepare if something happens to the power grid? Well, I don't know. You have to put, like, five years of food behind it or something. It's going to take a while. Maybe we'll go to Dick's Sporting Goods. How do you prepare if something happens to the power grid? Well, I don't know. You have to put, like, five years of food behind it, or something like that. It's gonna... You can't prepare for it, really.

Starting point is 00:53:51 Have you prepared for it at all? No, I haven't. I haven't. Literally, you have not even came from nothing. Why bother? Because it's... But when it happens... I know there's, you know, a lot of people in this country who are, you know, storing food away. I just don't want to live that way day to day, you know, as if Armageddon's going to happen tomorrow.

Starting point is 00:54:12 I would rather work to do something about it today, but I don't want to live in fear, you know? I'd rather do something proactive rather than something to protect when it happens. Well, maybe another question. When's the last time you actually had canned food? Like, do you like to eat corn or like tuna out of a can? I love Campbell's chicken noodle soup.

Starting point is 00:54:40 I figured it was something there. I've gotta have it. So, you know, in 2020, 2020 when they asked you a question, they said, so how do you think Trump is doing with COVID? I think the word you used was, I like how involved he is. Yeah, he was, he was, he was there every day, you know? We all didn't know when he, you know, what was going on. Right.

Starting point is 00:55:03 At least he was there every day on television, you know, and I think it made me feel better. But I did an interview because I was involved with the podcast company, Audio Up, at the time, and, you know, doing my own podcast. And so I was doing an interview with a certain outlet, and they asked that question, and then it turned into... they tried to cancel me. They tried to cancel me, actually, a couple of times, yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:33 Over that, when I was doing Reagan, there was a story that came out that I was taking $400,000 from the Trump administration, you know, through the CDC, to do a commercial on the vaccine. Which had no validity... Oh, that's the thing you do with Fauci. Had no validity at all, and, you know,

Starting point is 00:55:56 it was like an attempt to cancel me. Crazy, good. I don't know whether it's because I was playing Reagan or... Yeah. Or what, but, you know, it's because I was playing Reagan or what. But it's so funny. And then I gave a speech after I did Reagan, I gave a speech down here to a conservative group and there happened to be a couple of people there that I think were January 6th or whatever. And somehow that got out there, tried to cancel me over that. It's like...

Starting point is 00:56:27 It's, you know, that kind of fear, it kind of feels like the McCarthy era, really. And that's kind of flipped, you know? Back then, it was really kind of the Republicans that were kind of running that thing. And, you know, it's... that's no way to live. I just... so I finally am kind of like,

Starting point is 00:56:52 well, you know, cancel me if you're going to cancel me. Because... but I'm going to be who I am. I don't want to live in fear about all this stuff. Yeah. Did you... did you, did you at one point have Fauci on the podcast or were you on a podcast with Fauci? Yeah, I did. I interviewed Fauci.

Starting point is 00:57:14 What was that like with Fauci? Actually, I was given a speech in Washington about my kids. My kids were, they had, they were overdosed in a hospital with heparin, because they were there for a staph infection when they were 12 days old, and it was World News or whatever. So after that, I was giving a speech about medical safety, medical errors across around the country,

Starting point is 00:57:40 and I was in Washington, and about to give a speech at some hotel or whatever, and my pants split all the way down to my... all the way open, man. And there was there... there was somebody there to sew me up, and it was Fauci. So... You're being serious?

Starting point is 00:57:59 Yeah. Sewed the back of my pants up. This is what year? Thank God I was wearing underwear. That was maybe 2008, 2009. Who knows that story? That Fauci... Have you told this story before about the pants?

Starting point is 00:58:22 Not so publicly. Yeah. So, is there a relationship with Fauci that you... He did a really good job sewing that up. The pants. Yeah, he did. Maybe he could have gone in a different industry. That's like...

Starting point is 00:58:33 Yeah. Could have been better for the world. Some would say it could have been like a better opportunity. But I'm not such a fan now, to tell you the truth. Of Fauci? No, not. Even after he helped you with your pants? Well, I kind of put that over here to the side. Got it.

Starting point is 00:58:50 Yeah. Got it. So you have the ability to isolate and say, you're great at sewing my pants, but you suck with your policies type of thing. That's a gift. I just feel that I, like a lot of people, really kind of don't trust what the government says.

Starting point is 00:59:06 So as I used to. What... I mean, what would make you not believe the government? That's... Um... It's a tough one. There's just something I could feel is just a hunch. You know?

Starting point is 00:59:23 Because if something comes out of their mouth if something comes out of their mouth, something comes out of their mouth, and you wait six months, and it didn't turn out to be what they said. But by then, they're on to something else that they want to tell you. Or they try to blame it on the other side. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:42 You're one that's very curious with JFK assassination, right? I think you've done some stuff. And I had Oliver Stone on before, and he's done the movie... Yeah, I'm reading a book right now that RFK Jr. endorsed Unspeakable, which basically gets probably very similar to the files, which I hope that they do release to the American people. Because I was nine years old when that happened, and it...

Starting point is 01:00:16 that, along with Martin Luther King and RFK getting shot with it two months each other, paralyzed our country really really, for decades. It's something, something died there, and we weren't told the truth about it. And I'd really like to find out why, for sure. And I, myself, I feel like it was within our government, that the reasons he was killed.

Starting point is 01:00:48 So you think, are you saying it was the CIA, or are you saying LBJ, or are you saying? I think it was the CIA, myself. That was like, there was a, I've never been a conspiracy theory type person, but it's just, it just makes too much sense of why that happened, what was going on. It kind of shivers me to think that the President of the United States is not really in control of the government.

Starting point is 01:01:27 And, you know, it makes me wonder what happened back then, and what is it like now? You know? And, um, you know, the American people are supposed to be running things around here. And, uh, I'd like to see the will of the people being done, and I'd really like to get to the bottom of it. So that was that.

Starting point is 01:01:56 This is now, obviously, the government's improved dramatically. So do you think the assassination attempt on President Trump could have any likelihood that maybe it was an inside job as well or zero chance? Well, I'd like to go with some hard evidence at the way that the Secret Service responded and the FBI responded, and all they do is make you feel like, well, there must be something back there because they don't want to say anything.

Starting point is 01:02:28 I mean... I mean, everybody else... everybody else just had to look at their cell phones while they were recording that event to have a timeline about what happened. And they couldn't even say that when they came into Congress. They're, like, too afraid to speak about this or that. And so I don't know.

Starting point is 01:02:50 There's no hard evidence about that. But, you know, I'd just like to have some accountability from our government. They're accountable to us, not us to them. You know, we elected them, and these people are not elected officials. You know, the people that we elected should be... They're the boss, and we're the boss of the president, actually.

Starting point is 01:03:15 We're the American people, and we should have some accountability. That's what this country's all about. So what makes it great is that we can have all these different voices and forces and accountability to that, and yet we still survive. As a country, you know, things don't just spin off

Starting point is 01:03:39 and into chaos. And at least that's what we used to be admired for. Imagine if we didn't have a Supreme Court. Yeah. If we didn't have a Supreme Court, and if Elon doesn't buy X, imagine what happens to America today. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:56 It'd be a whole different place today. Yeah, thank God for the Supreme Court. Supreme Court is, and did you hear that they're saying, they want to put it, that's only three terms of 12 12 years and Biden's proposing that now that he, you know, whether it's Biden proposing it or his mentor Obama, somebody's proposing it there internally. That's the main reason that really swayed me to vote for Trump was because they start messing with the court system. You know? I mean, the only...

Starting point is 01:04:26 Before that, the only thing I liked about Trump was everything he did, was, you know, defeated ISIS. You know, he made us energy independent. You know, he was... I think he was really sincere about being a president to all people, including the LGBT community, by the way. And everybody is American.

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Starting point is 01:06:19 It was kind of like, wow. Have you ever met Biden before or no? I met him briefly back in the 80s. He was at some event. Impressed? Back when I was on cocaine. So a fired up season of your life. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:06:41 Did you? Back in the 80s. Great balls of Fire. I'm getting too serious. You're getting too serious. By the way, did you see the story... I'm getting way too serious here. Did you see the story that came out the other day? Because you may have stopped at a wrong time with cocaine because...

Starting point is 01:07:04 Raph, can you pull up the story with New York Times? You'll appreciate it. Well, does it really improve your heart health, is everything saying now? So that Woody Allen movie was right? Rob, pull up the story that just came out. By the way, I don't know if you guys saw the story. It's a New York Times story with Colombia and cocaine.

Starting point is 01:07:23 Did you see the story? They don't, right? Okay, Rob, pull up the story. It's a New York Times story with Columbia and cocaine. Did you see the story? They don't write it. Okay, Rob pull up the story Columbia faces a new to a new problem too much cocaine. I Mean that's devastating that they're sitting on all this product that they can't move anymore. Wow much inventory of it, right? They don't have a government subsidy for that To pay them not to grow it. What caused you to... Everybody, you know, we all have a history of things that we had to have one thing drop

Starting point is 01:07:53 in. What was your method to say, I'm going to change? There are three stages in addiction. Somebody got pissed in the back. I got introduced. Get the cocaine out of that guy's hands. I got introduced to cocaine back in the 70s. And it was, uh... There was a cover story in People magazine

Starting point is 01:08:12 about, you know, that it was not addictive and that it was just a fun-party drug. People magazine. You know, it gave you more energy and pep. I was all for energy and pep. And, I mean, it was in the movie... It was in movie budgets, you know? And it was... Seriously, going...

Starting point is 01:08:29 People would go into meetings in studios that it'd be on the table. You're joking. Yeah. You're not joking. No, I'm serious. It was... That's what...

Starting point is 01:08:39 But then John Belushi died. And that's where people started to wake up, I think, about it. You know? I kept going, but... But then John Belushi died, and that's where people started to wake up, I think, about it. I kept going, but... But addiction is like three stages. It's fun, and then it's fun with problems, and then it's a problem. And then when you're in the problem stage, what do you do?

Starting point is 01:09:10 Because you think you're still in the fun stage, and you don't realize that it's affecting your work, it's affecting your relationships, it's affecting everything about your life, you know? You're becoming unmanageable there. And I was... I had a band called The Eclectics back then, and we got a record deal. We played at the Palace Theatre. We got a record deal that night, and we broke up that very night in the dressing rooms.

Starting point is 01:09:35 Just like that movie, The Commitments. We broke up backstage after getting... We had a record deal, and we broke up. It was because of me. Because, you know, I was just... I was a mess, to tell you the truth. It was because of me. Because, you know, I was just... I was a mess, to tell you the truth. But I went home that... that very night,

Starting point is 01:09:49 I went home, and I... I was lucky. I, um... I had a white-line experience, you know, from prayer, really. And, uh... How was praying on cocaine? I'm just curious, like... It was like, help me, Jesus.

Starting point is 01:10:06 That. You know? That's enough. That's enough. But anyway, I had one of those white light experiences where I saw myself, well, I'm going to either be dead or I'm in jail or, you know, losing everything I have within five years, if this goes on. And I put myself into rehab, like, the next day.

Starting point is 01:10:26 And that was before rehab was... was cool. Yeah. Before they had, like, cold pools and massages and things like that. It was in the hospital basement. What year was it? It was at the hospital basement.

Starting point is 01:10:42 What year was it? That was 1990. Is this when Betty Ford... Is this the Palm Desert, the whole... Betty Ford, no, no, no. This was like St. John's Hospital in the basement of St. John's. And I was lucky it was there for 28 days and I got it. But you know, I ground... Nod my teeth for like three years and of course, it's no fun after that because I had to kind

Starting point is 01:11:11 of relearn everything, to tell you the truth. It works on your nervous system and go through depression and this and that. But I grit my teeth and I got through it, went to meetings, and but I started reading the Bible again. Because I've always been very... I've always been very into God, let's put it that way. You know, but this time, I've read the Bible like about five times in my lifetime, and each time is

Starting point is 01:11:46 very different. But I read it at that time, and I'm very struck by the red words of Jesus. And that's really what started me to really having a real personal relationship with God, instead of just, you know, out there. Which has grown and, you know, nurtured and ebbed and flowed since then. I won't say that, you know, nobody's perfect or anything like that. But that relationship is, with God, is what we're all looking for,

Starting point is 01:12:30 to fill up that hole with drugs or whatever you're gambling or whatever that feeling is, that exhilaration that we're all kind of looking for, you know, that only... doesn't work after a while with drugs and the rest of it, but that's the whole we're trying to fill. Do you ever watch the movie Walk the Line?

Starting point is 01:12:56 Yeah. You know, that scene where June has the guy coming in to try to give him the pills, and the father-in-law comes out with the shotgun and says, hey, you better get out of here and right he has to stay in bed and he's going through the rehab side and trying to get that yeah you know that's the part when you go at a close friend of mine that couldn't get off of it and we lost him a second of a it's a very hard thing when you lose a lot of

Starting point is 01:13:19 good close friends well I won't say a lot but I mean I've had close friends who've died from it, you know? And by accident, or whatever it was, but some were trying to commit suicide with it, I guess. One drug or another, or this or that, another. And, you know, it's... For me, it's... For me, that's where the answer really lies. And...

Starting point is 01:13:51 You know, it's... I'm in the back. ...that relationship. Incredible story for you to share it with us and just be transparent about it. I mean, a lot of people need to hear stories like that, that you can change. But I'm in the back over there getting ready

Starting point is 01:14:05 for the meeting with you. They tell me you're here. And one of the guys comes to the back and says, oh my God. I said, what's that? Dude, the guy looks amazing. I'm like, you're, he says, Pat, he does not look his age. He looks incredible.

Starting point is 01:14:20 Then I'm like, okay, he's just trying to maybe kiss your ass or something. Then I, then I come to the back and I see, I'm like, okay, he's just trying to maybe kiss your ass or something. Then I come to the back and I see him, I'm like, dude, this guy looks amazing. Like, seriously, I mean, unbelievable when you're seen for you to have worked in the business for as long as you have, you look great. You know, let me ask you another question. So your mom is a realtor.

Starting point is 01:14:42 Your dad's an electrician. By the way, VIPs, we're going to come to you you guys for questions anybody that's a VIP on the front two three rows We may have a couple questions being asked before we wrap up mom's a realtor dad's an electrician Buddy is a singer your brother who's back there. He's in real estate, too So he followed mom's footsteps. Yeah, but he can sing as well, but equate Austin, Texas real estate He followed Mom's footsteps. Yeah. But he can sing as well. But he played Austin, Texas, real estate.

Starting point is 01:15:06 This is brought to you by Buddy from real estate in Austin, right? Give him a call. What's the phone number? You have a phone number? We can give it out? Then you have your brother, Randy, who played LBJ, if I'm not mistaken. He played LBJ. Yes, he did.

Starting point is 01:15:22 He played LBJ. And he's an actor. And he did a bunch of work. I think he's in Canada now. And then we have you, who's done what... Where did the creative... Who brought the creative... Because real estate electrician doesn't produce a bunch of creatives.

Starting point is 01:15:34 How did that happen? My dad was a frustrated actor, actually. And he introduced Randy and I to, like, the movies as well. And then, you know I to, like, the movies as well. And then, you know, through my grandmother, she played piano and stuff. That's his side, my dad's side of the family. In fact, Gene Autry is my third cousin.

Starting point is 01:15:58 Yeah. And he did pretty well in Hollywood. He did pretty well. Yeah. I finally met him in the 90s. He did pretty well. Yeah. I finally met him in the 90s. He was a great guy. You know, Gene Autry is probably, in today's dollars, the richest entertainer of all time.

Starting point is 01:16:20 He wrote Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer. Back in the saddle again, Frosty the Snowman. But then, you know, and he had those movies, G. Nantri movies, that, you know, serials for kids, basically. But then from that... Half a billion dollar net worth? Yeah, from that, he...

Starting point is 01:16:42 Yeah, but you could take those dollars earned then and put them today. Boom. From that, he bought Channel 5 in L.A., KTLA. And it was like... that was before the East Coast, West Coast hookup, and... which is huge. And from that, he and Walt Disney bought Anaheim, and he bought, you know, he bought the Angels, basically, built the stadium and... Got it.

Starting point is 01:17:07 All that. So Disney made Disneyland. Did any of that pass down to you? Got you a buddy and like a couple hundred million of it? So maybe five, I grew up in a Christian family. Because if yes, we can, some of us need a loan right now if you guys got some of that money sitting around. I never saw any of that money.

Starting point is 01:17:22 I never saw any of that money. I don't think. I was the third cousin, you know. I think I was probably about 113th down the line, something like that. Do you guys ever do family gatherings where everybody... any reunions where all the family, all the siblings get together or no? We used to when I was a kid. Okay.

Starting point is 01:17:38 But, you know, it's really kind of... I've had like 57 cousins on one side. First? Yeah. Yeah, first cousins. You guys Mormons or what? I've had like 57 cousins on one side. First? Yeah. Yeah, first cousins. You guys Mormons or what? Don't.

Starting point is 01:17:51 I mean, my parents only had me and Randy and then, you know, we had Buddy, but everybody else was busy. Well, good for them. Respect. So they definitely didn't watch any of your movies. They're out there like getting stuff going. They don't have time to watch movies. We gotta make babies.

Starting point is 01:18:07 There was a lot of that going on. With the situation a few years ago with Randy saying the stuff that he said with Hollywood and all that stuff, is he still in that same state or he's no longer there? Randy doesn't like me to talk about him and what's going on with him. All I can say is that I really love my brother,

Starting point is 01:18:25 and I miss my brother. And I will say this, you know, Randy could have, like, a great third act. Randy could have a great third act. He could have a great third act in the movies. And I would love to see that. He's one of the best actors, I think, you know, we've produced in this country.

Starting point is 01:18:48 He's one of my five favourite actors. Really. That's awesome. Yeah. Who would be the other four? Well, like Alec Guinness and Marlon Brando and Jack Nicholson, I guess, and, you know. But, you know.

Starting point is 01:19:05 But, you know, I'd love to see him have a third act. Wouldn't you? It'd be... Yeah. That's cool. I have boys, and everything... I got four kids. Two boys, two girls. And as a father, you know, everything we're building is for these guys to stay as close to each other as possible. That's your goal.

Starting point is 01:19:26 Later on in life, you want them to kind of have the memories. What else are you doing as a parent, right? That's the goal to do that. And I'm glad that's your position right now with Randy. So here's what I'd like to do before. Let me see if I have anything else here. No. Here's what we could do.

Starting point is 01:19:41 Anybody on the VIP set, does anybody have any questions? Is that you? Who has a question here? Do you have a question? All right. Let's come we could do. Anybody on the VIP set, does anybody have any questions? Is that you? Who has a question here? Do you have a question? All right, let's come right here first. Right here. Right here. If you can say your name, where you're from, and then what your question is.

Starting point is 01:19:55 Hello. My name is Laura Donnacchotti. I currently live in Deerfield Beach, but I grew up in New Jersey. Thank you for being here. It's great to see all of you. Thank you. Thanks for having me, in New Jersey. Thank you for being here. It's great to see all of you. Thank you. Thanks for having me, by the way. Thank you.

Starting point is 01:20:08 My question is, considering you are a master at your craft, and I'm sure you researched all things Ronald Reagan, what did you maybe learn that you hadn't learned before that was most interesting to you about him? The main thing, when I was offered the role, I didn't say yes and I didn't say no because he was my favorite president and also everybody, he's like Muhammad Ali, everybody in the world has an opinion about him and knows what he looks like. And there's a shiver of fear up my spine, which is usually an indication I should do that because it gets me on my

Starting point is 01:20:45 comfort zone. But Reagan, I didn't want to do an impersonation of him, and it's about getting down to what makes him tick. And I've played many real people before, alive and dead. And like, Jerry Lee Lewis was on the set every day, you know, behind my back going, you're getting it wrong, son! And Jimmy Morris was on the set. And I want to play those people from their point of view.

Starting point is 01:21:15 That's, I think, a responsibility I have. Because... And Reagan, there was a place in Reagan that everybody talked about who knew him that there was a kind of a private place in him that was almost unreachable that people felt. This is the great communicator. And it took me kind of a long time to get there,

Starting point is 01:21:40 but I feel that in one way, that was a place where he kind of felt like himself, because there was a lot coming from him, from the world, with people. You ought to be in a crowd and yet still have a feeling of privacy and yourself. And I think it may also come from having like an alcoholic father in the way that he grew up,

Starting point is 01:22:12 where you kind of are, there's some things you just kind of really keep yourself at, with this cloak of, you hide it by being convivial with people and stuff. And I think it was also kind of the place where he had his relationship with God himself as well that he guarded. And I think even Nancy, who knew him better than anybody, was aware of that too, that place. This is an ad by BetterHelp. What are your self-care non-negotiables?

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Starting point is 01:23:35 Big fan, Mr. Quaid and Mr. Patrick, about David. One, I've been, I saw you from Jaws 3 to... Jaws 3D. Jaws 3D. Jaws 3D. Done right here in the great state of Florida. One of my favorites, the day after tomorrow. I just want to know, in everything you've done, how would you like to be remembered in the entertainment industry?

Starting point is 01:24:00 Oh, gee, I really don't know with that. You know, I've enjoyed working... My autobiography is gonna be called My Lucky Life because of the... What have... The movies that I've gotten to do, it's like I tell my kids, find something that you love to do

Starting point is 01:24:24 and then figure out a way to get paid for it. Man, I've gotten to do. It's like I tell my kids, find something that you love to do and then figure out a way to get paid for it. Man, I've gotten that even when I didn't deserve it, I really feel. And I've had so much joy doing what I do. It's that I've really loved it. And I love it now more than I loved it when I was in my 20s. Because I'm not trying to get anywhere, be something or win some award

Starting point is 01:24:52 or trying to get ahead or whatever. Lucky enough to be able to do those things that really interest me. And that's like being a kid. It's just really, it's great to keep that. And that's, you know, it's called a play. That's the way I'd like to be remembered. It's a great, it was really a lot of fun.

Starting point is 01:25:19 I got a question for you. Gang related. Tupac. Tupac. What was it like doing a movie with Tupac? Oh, man, that was... That was so great. That little movie and Tupac... You know, I was kind of familiar with Tupac

Starting point is 01:25:33 when we did that movie. And we both loved Chinese food, it turns out, you know? And so he and I would be in the trailer, like, every day. We had Chinese food five days in a row. And... Is Chinese food a joke, like a sign for something else, or is it really Chinese food? Because it is the 90s, so you had to stop.

Starting point is 01:26:06 I really, at the time, really didn't know much about who he was and stuff. I knew who he was, but it's like we got in there, we just... We talked about acting, we talked about growing up, we talked about our mothers, we talked about, you know... Uh... You know, he was such a...

Starting point is 01:26:26 Had such a great heart as a kid. So he was such a talented actor, too. And he had a thirst to learn. And, you know, I did know he was a poet, really. You know, because that's what he was. And then he told the story, uh, of how, you know, they tried to kill him before in New York. It was hysterical, the way he told it,

Starting point is 01:26:57 but it was, like, for real. Then six months later, he would, you know, he got killed. That one really hit me hard. It really did. Why is that? He had so much to give the world. He really did. He was about a...

Starting point is 01:27:26 He would have wanted being such a uniter of people. He really was. Because you could not put him in a hole or a box or part of that group or this group. He was like... You know? He would have... you know? He would have been... What could have been? What did he tell you?

Starting point is 01:27:50 Because I thought you were going in a complete different direction when you went to it. But because what's interesting about what you just said is the movie came out October 8th of 97. He died September of 95, I think. 95 or 96, because it's high school. When I graduated high school, that's when he died.

Starting point is 01:28:08 So he never saw the final movie himself. No, he never did. But what did he tell you about the first time they tried to take him out? He was just a human being, you know? He was a kid, and he was a vulnerable person. You know, he wasn't like this, like, you know, gangster, this and that and the other.

Starting point is 01:28:24 He was like, I had a poet's heart and was really, you know, it was his vulnerability and his willingness to, you know, and his curiosity about other people, including me, you know. We were kind of like, yeah, you never put the two of us together. We ate Chinese food in the trailer. But, you know, there we were. It's a high DEI score, though.

Starting point is 01:28:53 I mean, if you look at the DEI, that was, like, way ahead of its time. Just have really, really deep feelings for him. I want to say on this, we've talked about God knows how many different stories. Out of all the stories, if I would have gone to Vegas and I would have said, here's 15 stories, let's put a wager on which one of these things is going to get him emotional. They probably would have put Tupac last.

Starting point is 01:29:13 Why did Tupac get you? I think I just told you. But what I want to know is, I know, I get it, but what I want to tell you is, was it like any story like correlation on the upbringing? Was it any similarities? Was it anything else? Well, we had a lot of similarities. The way he started as an actor, like in high school and doing plays, he just got into it

Starting point is 01:29:40 and he had that same feeling that I have about it. He just wanted to do it. He was like, he was a real artist, and he was a real poet, and he was just getting started. Just getting started. Do you listen to his music now? Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do. Especially that one about his mom.

Starting point is 01:30:02 Your mama? Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. Next question. Don't ask about Tupac. He's already told us, okay? No more Tupac questions.

Starting point is 01:30:11 Right here. I'm going to go right here. Beautiful shirt. That's right. The feature's right. Yeah, tell us. The feature's right. My name is Theo Sandoval.

Starting point is 01:30:19 I'm from Los Angeles, and I'm a realtor, too. You're in real estate, as well? I'm a realtor, too, in Los Angeles and I'm a realtor too. You're a real estate as well? I'm a realtor too in Los Angeles. Well, maybe you and Buddy can get some referrals going here. Thank you so much for your time. It's so nice to be here and thank you to the PBD team. Thanks for having me. Thank you, Mr. Quaid.

Starting point is 01:30:40 You answered my question. I'm going to read you my question. What has been your go-to behind the scenes story that made an impact in your life that still moves you? And I think we just heard it right now. Yeah, that would definitely be one of them. I really gotta, just like I talk about my lucky life, like the people I've gotten,

Starting point is 01:31:02 my heroes that I've gotten to hang with. So, uh, one of those would be, like, the right stuff. And, you know, uh, you know, meeting the astronaut who was my boyhood hero. Turned out he lived three miles from me, and I'm playing him. And, you know, I really got to, you know, be in his life. I really appreciated that. And Jerry Lee, I really loved.

Starting point is 01:31:32 You know, he was one of my piano teachers, which was... Who could say that? Literally? Yeah, literally. You know, yeah. The left hand is what it's all about. You know, I had three others, Who could say that? Literally? Yeah, literally. The left hand is what it's all about.

Starting point is 01:31:47 I had three others, but he was one of them. He was really such a generous person. He could be kind of a schoolyard bully every once in a while with bravado, but he was something else, and just to be around him and, you know, and mentor a way. And that was him. Working with Ringo, that was another one. You know, being in caveman, you know,

Starting point is 01:32:16 we were together, like, 16 hours a day, he and I. Because it took so long to get the setting back and just... You know, the things that in my childhood I would have never dreamed of, you know, happen. Yeah, to me. And you know, I guess that, but Tupac is, he really did it, I mean, emotionally. We keep going back to it. You know, I don't want to go back, but you keep taking us back, so I want to transition,

Starting point is 01:32:53 but Mel Gibson, okay, for me, I can watch some of his movies over and over and over and over and over. Weird movies like Payback. By the way, you know what movie you can't find anywhere to watch? Try finding Ransom. Who remembers the movie Ransom? By the way, go tonight, try to find Ransom. Where to buy it, send it to me. You won't be able to find it. Yeah, it's kind of strange. Great Balls of Fire is another one of those.

Starting point is 01:33:23 Why is that though? I don't understand that. It got caught up with... Well, Great Balls of Fire got caught up because of the music in the publishing room. Is that typically what happens? I think that's what happens. So it's hard to find. You can only buy like a DVD of it or something.

Starting point is 01:33:39 I mean, I've been trying to get ransom all over the place. It doesn't matter where. I can't get it. No, you can go find it at Amazon. I'll go to no, not available, no matter where you go. I think we ought to get to the bottom of that. I think we should. I want to figure it out. I really do. Let's hire private investigators.

Starting point is 01:33:52 Yeah. Well, I'm sure Mel knows. Are you in contact with Mel? Not currently, no. Okay. But like that. What do you think about Mel? Like, his...

Starting point is 01:34:01 Mel, I mean, he's a great star, man. Really a great star, man. Yeah, really a great star. And, you know, I... I wish him well. I don't think I... there weren't that many. I was also kind of fortunate enough to come along in a really kind of a great generation of... There was something new going on, you know?

Starting point is 01:34:22 My generation would be like Kevin and Mel and Bruce, you know, and it was, you know, it was really fun to make. We were in each other's trailers, and there was this camaraderie going on, and it was great. What was Mel like behind Closer's? Like, forget it, when I see his interviews, he's like always, you know, he's always animated, moving, energy's

Starting point is 01:34:47 like you know... Yeah. Is he always like that? He's all that with an Australian accent, mostly. I prefer to think it buzz off. But you know, we were kids once, we were lucky kids. Bruce Willis. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:35:04 Mel. What was... How was it? Did you ever do anything with... Well, you did. De Niro. You've seen how De Niro has been campaigning. I never worked with De Niro. You never did.

Starting point is 01:35:14 Now I never did. But that's almost Pacino on any given Sunday. That's right. So how was... When you're seeing De Niro doing what he's doing right now in New York, what do you think about that? It's... It makes it kind of hard to watch Casino.

Starting point is 01:35:29 I can still watch it and isolate the... But is it different? It is, of course it is. Yeah. Yeah, now I watch Casino hoping Pesci kills him. It's like a different kind of... It's like, you know what, you deserve it. Sharon Stone, go after him this time.

Starting point is 01:35:45 Story kind of changes. You watch casino, like, the angle could be a different story, but it is what's... it's tough because... It's probably gonna be hard for people to watch my movies after this, too, but... Yeah. I don't know about that. Whatever. Let's do one last one here before we wrap up.

Starting point is 01:36:02 Right there. Let's do one last question. Kelly, if we can go right then, and we we wrap up. Right there. Let's do one last question. Kelly, if we can go right then and we'll wrap up and we'll do some picks. My name is George Hoverdors, I'm from Naples, Florida, and I want to say, one, thank you for this evening, the movie, amazing. My wife is uber jealous, my wife Sean, I want to give her a shout out. She's actually watching right now, blowing up my text message during this. And I wanted to basically say, you're one of her top three favorite actors,

Starting point is 01:36:29 and frequency is a favorite of both of ours. And when that movie came out, it touched my soul based on my relationship with my father and everything else. Like, tears, like balling. But what I wanna actually say is, what are three movies, which you've done tons, that really hit your soul

Starting point is 01:36:49 that you think you've transformed other people's lives? Oh, well, all I can speak for is me. But I can only imagine. I really had a lot of people come up to me, like in airports and things like that. And The Rookie was another one of those. And Frequency. And do you see that there's a theme of father-sons things going on here?

Starting point is 01:37:25 I think, you know, it's... I'm a sucker for those because they were kind of in my heart, but with, you know, it's because we all as sons, it's really kind of hard to express our relationship with our dads, no matter how great they were. our relationship with our dads, no matter... no matter how great they were. You know, they could be great, too, but it's really kind of, like, just tough to... It gets all balled up in there,

Starting point is 01:37:54 because it's about us, you know, and ourselves being a man. And there's always a little bit of, like, with your dad, I think men feel like, I'd love to be like him, and at the same time, I never want to be like him about some other things. And I know, because I see that with my son's going on now. But I'm a sucker for it. And we're really glad that movie came along. It was a really good story, too. You know, the great question, by the way, the one story my pastor once told me, Pastor

Starting point is 01:38:35 Dudley Rutherford, who if he's watching, we love you, Dudley. One of the reasons we did not want to leave California was because of Shepherd of the Hills and Dudley Rutherford. We absolutely love him. We changed our wedding date from Saturday to Friday because he was preaching Saturday just so he could do the sermon. And one day we're at claim jumpers in Northridge. I don't know if you've been to claim jumpers.

Starting point is 01:38:55 I don't even know if anybody knows what claim jumpers is. And we're sitting there having lunch, and I'm asking him, family, father, son, relationship, all this stuff, what's the best advice you can give me about being a good man? He says the four G's be careful with the girls gamble greed gluttony. I said, okay, give me father-son relationship He said every father and son goes through three different phases. I said, what's that? I've repeated this thousands of times since he told me he says first we idolize them Then we demonize them, then we demonize them, and eventually we humanize them. Idolize, demonize, humanize.

Starting point is 01:39:33 He says, you hope that your sons will also one day do the same to you, because you're also going to make some mistakes. They're just a fascinating thing to talk about. So having said that, Dennis, I've enjoyed this so much. I can't even tell you. Thank you so much for coming out. I've had a really great time.

Starting point is 01:39:48 Truly, this has been fantastic. You're a great sport for doing this. You're fantastic. Obviously everybody here loved it. Thank you everybody. But August 30th. All right, give me a hug. August 30th.

Starting point is 01:39:56 Let me come around. August 30th. Give me a hug. For everybody watching out there, August 30th movie comes out. Go ahead. August 30th. August 30th. August 30th.

Starting point is 01:40:04 August 30th. August 30th. August 30th. August 30th. For everybody watching out there, August 30th movie comes out. Go watch the Reagan movie. It was unbelievable. Thank you so much everybody. Have a good night. Thank you. God bless you. God bless America.

Starting point is 01:40:18 Wow. Thank you. Thank you.

PBD Podcast - Dennis Quaid: Reagan, Trump & JFK Assassinations, Fauci Relationship & Tupac | PBD Podcast | Ep. 453

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