PBD Podcast - DNC Day 1, Candace Owens & Dan Bilzerian Israel Controversy, Fed Rate Cuts | PBD Podcast | Ep. 458

Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, so I just want to prepare everybody that right before the podcast, if you don't have earmuffs, if you have kids around today, have the earmuffs ready because Tom and Adam already started. And if you remember last week when Tom lost his temper, right afterwards there was like shoes flying around here. Tom was throwing his cup. Adam got up. It was pretty bad, but we're going to try to make it civil today. We have Robin House.

Starting point is 00:00:49 We brought security today. Not because of all the chaos and the conversations that are being had on the internet and the back and forth and all the wonderful, loving messages I'm getting, which I so greatly appreciate. We have security here because we're worried about Adam and Tom. That's our concern today. That might literally—every everybody in a building gets panicking. But let me kind of take us what happened yesterday. This old man, I don't know if you heard about this, this old man yesterday, this 82 year old man, gave a

Starting point is 00:01:15 speech. Don't talk about Tom that way. At this place called Chicago. Such an insecure little boy. We're already down, told you! I don't want to pick on the man because of his age. He's a nice, ugly right in here. and all right I would like to get through some story how about I become the guy that's a calm nice church going guy and you two are going at it you're supposed to be the angry patriot

Starting point is 00:01:41 so we got some stories to cover yesterday Anyway, so we got some stories to cover. I've been told to be quiet. Yesterday, what's it called? Yesterday, the DNC took place. Steve Kerr spoke, night night. Hillary Clinton spoke. Amazing, she looks hot now. Hillary Clinton's AOC spoke, and so did Biden speak. And it was interesting.

Starting point is 00:01:59 Listen to all the messaging, we'll have some commentary on that. What else we got here? Article comes out saying, far-right influencers turn against Trump campaign. Wapo story. Misogyny to be treated as extremism by UK government. Be careful folks, in the UK. Fed to deliver three 25-quarter point rate cuts this year.

Starting point is 00:02:22 Recession unlikely. Reuters gives that story. Jake Paul calls New York City, dumbass democratic city, at press conference. How dare he make a comment like that in New York, disrespecting the people in New York. But we'll show you the clip, you'll enjoy that one. DNC attendees, folks, if you haven't yet bought a a ticket DNC attendees will have opportunities for free Visectomies and abortions at the I mean But is this a joke or is this all they had a mobile truck show up to give?

Starting point is 00:02:55 Visectomies and abortions medical abortions not like but like I have three buddies that just went just for just to get it done Of course, you did. Of course you did. Well they're women, they just identify as men. It's a whole problem. I got you. Pritzker said Harris has energized the party like Obama. So Kamala Harris is officially the new Obama. I'm sure Obama loves that compliment. Biden orders Secret Service protection for Kimberly Cheadle, okay, which is, it's so funny to have that, but you got to do what you got to do. By the way, Don Lemon out is, it's so funny to have that, but you gotta do what you gotta do. By the way, Don Lemon out there doing what Jesse Waters used to do 15 years ago, 10 years ago, but he's doing a great job, if you think about it.

Starting point is 00:03:33 That was phenomenal for going out there, and I thought it was impressive. Harris offers two debates with Trump. The debate about debates is over. However, Tom's got some insight, he'll give you guys a scoop on what he just heard. US housing crisis becomes a critical issue in the presidential election. And then we have San Francisco loses last Denny's to high crime, rising inflation, disturbing, I used to go to Denny's all the time, three or four times a week. Majority Californians support harsher penalties for theft and drug possession.

Starting point is 00:04:06 Kamala promises to build three million homes, this is an important story guys, three million homes in four years, and Biden and Harris have built only eight EV stations in two and a half years. However, for those of you that are thinking about buying a house, Harris will propose a $25,000 down payment aid for first-time home buyers as part of the economic agenda. Candace Owens, there was this interview with Dan Bolzarian, really upsetting. I don't know if you saw that.

Starting point is 00:04:34 Really. That very upsetting and it's frustrating, but you know, you have to do what you have to do. And there's one that's going to be even more annoying going out tomorrow, that the market is going to lose their mind when they hear what this man has to say. So Candace Owens, anything happens to me, blame the Zionists. So there we go. That's an article by angry white man.

Starting point is 00:04:56 Elon Musk walks with Jesus. Kanye West and Bianca make surprise appearance at Donald Trump's rally in Beverly Hills. Election 2024 Trump rallies in Pennsylvania. Waltz targets the Lone Swing District in Nebraska. Pedophilia hunters are starting to grow in popularity. Some are taking justice into their own hands. Venezuela's Maduro asks, who rules the U.S. after Biden walks back comments? And then Tom's got a few stories he wants to talk about. The American household that's surged in recent years amid challenging consumer environment,

Starting point is 00:05:30 refinancing demand, surge on mortgage rates, drop in layoffs announced on multiple companies this summer, and AI-driven deepfakes. We have to talk about this. Sites that undress women and girls face landmark lawsuits. So this is something that everybody watching this, I actually think the 2024 election is going to be affected by deepfakes, my opinion. We'll get into that here in a minute. But the last thing I'll tell you is the following.

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Starting point is 00:08:14 That's right. I've spoken to him 15 minutes before. Reese Queen, Brande Smith, and you got a bunch of other guys there. And now let's go to the last one. You got existing. Chris Magavero, user zero, Rachel Cox, and Caleb's even on there. You know who else is on there asking the most, Manek? Go a little lower, go a little lower.

Starting point is 00:08:31 Oh man, that's a lot of good people on that list. Look at that. So the winners will be going to have a private meeting with me at the Vault Conference and the winners will get a chance to meet the Rock and take a picture with them. So download Manek and start asking questions. There's a lot of good things going on right now with Manect app. Okay, let's go into topics. Tom, first thing I'm going to go to is market.

Starting point is 00:08:52 Because I know a lot of people right now are worried to see what's really going to be taking place. I want to start off with the Fed. So Fed to deliver three quarter point rate cuts this year. Recession unlikely, Reuters poll says. And this is during a time, while there's a couple other stories talking about how people are having a hard time buying a house, the U.S. Federal Reserve is expected to implement three 25-base point rate cuts at the remaining meetings

Starting point is 00:09:16 in 2024, reducing the federal funds rate to a range of four and a half to four and three quarters of a point by the end of the year. This outlook follows a weaker July job reports and market pricing that has adjusted from 120 basis points to roughly 100 basis points of reduction for the year. Despite these expected rates, because the U.S. economy is projected to grow 2.5% in 2024, up from 2% expectation, with the unemployment rate holding steady around 4.3% through 2026 inflation, while easing is expected to stay above 2% until 2026, with wage growth remaining above 3% to 3.5%.

Starting point is 00:09:55 The likelihood of recession remains low, with a 30% probability time. I see this story, then I see the other stories talking about American household debt surge in recent years, challenging consumer, refinancing demand surge on mortgage rates drop. I see layoffs announced at multiple companies this summer. What's going on with the economy? Well, everything can be true at the same time, right? It's like your dad just gave you a gold star for what's going on at school, but your mom's really upset about you and your sister won't talk to you.

Starting point is 00:10:32 All those things can be true at the same time. That's kind of what's happening with the economy. But I think there's glimmers of hope and good news in here on housing. So right now, the 30 year is six and a quarter to six and a half. The banks have pulled back a little bit. And if you've got good credit over 750, you can get a third year fixed mortgage. And there's a lot of people refining PBD from 775 to 7675. So seven and three eights, five eights, three quarters from last year, they're actually getting a full point, point and a quarter

Starting point is 00:11:06 of relief refining. So that's why you see the headlines that refis are up. So if you bought and you found a house to buy, you thought the price was good, it wasn't too overinflated and you're not going to lose price depreciation on the home value and you bought a year ago, right now you can be refining and that's good news for those Americans, really good news. What's not good news yet is the home supply still hasn't caught up. So there's not a lot of homes out there to buy and in many markets the prices still seem

Starting point is 00:11:33 a little inflated and a higher interest rates and a higher price home makes the payment higher. However, the Fed, this story Reuters is talking about three quarter points that is being floated by the banks. There is going to be a quarter point in September. The Fed has said it's going to be a quarter point. If unemployment numbers in the jobs report are particularly bad, they may make that a half a point. That's what some of the lead banks are saying.

Starting point is 00:11:59 Chase thinks that. But nobody thinks, even though we're getting reports of layoffs right now, nobody thinks that that's going to happen. So there's going to be a quarter point. So that means if you're in a market where you could potentially purchase, if you think the value is there in the home, it's not too overpriced, you're probably going to see six and an eighth to six and a quarter in October right after the Fed drops the quarter point. So that's a slightly good thing for the home buyers.

Starting point is 00:12:28 However, there's not a whole lot of those because the rest of America is the household debt is now up again this quarter because of the inflation pinch and people are using credit cards and debt to pay for certain things and the inflation pinch is still there. So you can see there's multiple things going on. Certain industries are seeing layoffs, some markets are getting good news for people getting relief on refis, and people that are able to in good markets are going to be able to purchase. All those things are true at the same time. Against the backdrop of the stock market looks really good, but the average consumer right only is about a C plus B minus in terms of health. So if you still feel it's kind of tight for you, you're not crazy.

Starting point is 00:13:15 Adam. Well, I'm just super happy. We had a success story last week, a massive success story with my friend Vinny. We remember what happened when the stock market basically tanked a thousand points in one day. Vinny's been asking for two years repeatedly, when do I buy a house? When do I buy a house? And I said, enough's enough in the chat. I don't know if you can turn it up a little bit.

Starting point is 00:13:38 I go, enough with your stupid house, Vinny. Today's the day to buy some stocks. And for two years, we've had conversations about what it means to open up a Roth IRA. What is even a retirement account? What's a stock? What's a bond? What's an asset? What is all this?

Starting point is 00:13:54 And finally, we sat down. What did we do, Vinny? Tell them, Vinny. I got a Roth IRA and I put something in a high yield interest thing and then I bought some sneakers on stockinsights.com. You know what you are now Vinny? You're an investor. That's it.

Starting point is 00:14:13 For the first time in your life. Why do you think I have a watch that has this key? It goes with your look. Thank you. You're not a saver Vinny. You're an investor. Congratulations on becoming an investor. Thank you.

Starting point is 00:14:24 And I think a lot of people basically have to take that into account where Vinny, you're an investor. Congratulations on becoming an investor. Thank you. And I think a lot of people basically have to take that into account where Vinny actually asked the question, and I'm just going to use a voice, should I buy a house today? Like you don't have a realtor, you haven't located the house. You don't know what you're doing. Why do you might be selling that down syndrome? Because that's kind of how I felt when you're like, should I just go buy a house today? Like I was drooling when I was asking you the question. That's how you made me feel.

Starting point is 00:14:44 See, that's what you do. That's the worst. The fights break out. Exactly. You work your fill there and then you make enemies. Yeah. Like just, I'm going to just go out there and make a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

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Starting point is 00:15:16 logged in, created your account. Well, you're an investor. Look at you now. You're probably up a little bit because the market's up. The point is this, you're not going to be able to buy a house right now. Sorry, interest rates, supply, demand, I get it, but you can always become an investor. Congratulations on becoming an investor. Okay, so that's the whole shtick was that. That's great, awesome. I didn't know he was going there. I'm proud of you.

Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah, that's good, that he's starting something. Well that's great. But for everybody else that is in a position right now where you're wondering, do I get a place, do I not get a place, what happens? We had a call yesterday with Tom, you were on the call. We're getting, we're making a few big purchases. And when I say big purchases, I mean big purchases. And we're looking at interest rates.

Starting point is 00:16:03 And while we're having a conversation, say if we get a three-year and then later on we can go to a ten-year because if we do the three-year, the rates are coming down and we can refinance and go to a ten-year and then we can refinance and go to maybe a, all of these types of conversations are happening right now with where the rates are at, but the likelihood, everybody we talk to, everybody we talk to, everyone's saying the same thing, rates are coming down. And it's going to be happening. At what pace, who knows?

Starting point is 00:16:33 Yesterday there was a meeting in Chicago, and that meeting yesterday at Chicago, they call it the DNC, the Democratic National Convention. And Steve Kerr spoke, okay, and he gave a speech all the way at the end that's a shout out Trump. You had Hillary Clinton that spoke, and you had, what do you call it, Joe Biden spoke, AOC spoke, right? All these guys spoke. And a lot of the conversation was about the economy and all this other stuff. And Joe Biden, when he was speaking, Rob, I don't know if you have it or not, Joe Biden came in to give the speech and left, went to California for vacation, is where he's

Starting point is 00:17:14 at. He's going to watch the entire thing from his family's house, and he's going to watch the speech and all the stuff that's taking place at the DNC there. Everybody consistently, all they did was edify Joe Biden, how great of a man he is, how great of a president he is, the entire time it was an edification for Joe Biden. Rob, if you have one clip. I send him a minute something, PBT, of all the cuts, of his anger, his emotion. If you have the one that he sent you with the minute cut of all of them.

Starting point is 00:17:46 It's on, yeah, Colin, I sent it to you, I think today, Rob. No, Rob, you just showed it. There you go, that's the one right there. If you can show this clip to give us an idea, it'll save you 50 minutes, but go ahead. Women are not without electrical, not allowed, not without electoral, electoral. Border encounters have dropped over 50% lie in fact there are fewer border crossings today than when Donald Trump left office that's what happened Donald Trump said my quote there are very fine people on both sides my god that is what he said and what he meant.

Starting point is 00:18:25 ...from his own chief of staff, the four-star General John Kelly, that Trump, when in Europe, would not go to the grave sites in one of the...France... Lie, I think. ...the grave service members who gave their lives to this country. He called them suckers and losers. Another lie. Who in the hell does he think he is? Who does he think he is? Wow, look at him.

Starting point is 00:18:50 He has no idea what he's mad about. They're the ones we're gonna bring back. That guys? What? That's not hyperbole. It's because Medicare no longer has to pay those exorbitant prices to the big farmer. Republicans, Democrats, we saved democracy in 2020 and now we must save it again in 2024. You know we have a thousand billionaires in America. He's not finished.

Starting point is 00:19:23 He's promising a a blood bath. Another lie. If he loses in his words. How many lies? Okay, okay guys, lie after lie, but let's just be honest, he spoke on the first day of the Democratic National Convention. The sitting president spoke on the first night. That is the most humiliating thing.

Starting point is 00:19:44 You don't let that guy talk first I mean, I know why they're doing it, but you nailed it PBT Right when it was done He got in the plane and flew a got on Air Force one flew to California for another vacation Which now this is gonna make if he stays till Sunday 366 days in four years that he's been on vacation That's like 41% of his entire presidency has been on vacation And then everybody wonders why the country is in the position that we're in.

Starting point is 00:20:07 Okay. And like, by the way, just a quick glimpse, BPD, the DNC, people were en masse by the thousands, people outside. That tells you exactly what you need to know about these people. There are protests outside, Democrats protesting Democrats, their leadership about, you know, Israel and Hamas and all that stuff. Hillary Clinton went up there and said that Kamala cares about children and families. Meanwhile outside they had a mobile booth.

Starting point is 00:20:29 Rob, you have the photo of the booth. Planned Parenthood Great River sent the mobile health center and offered reproductive services on Monday and Tuesday. Medication abortions were available on both days with vasectomies being exclusively offered on Monday like that's if that's not the Democrat party in a nutshell mask Abortions vasectomies they don't want to look at this thing. This thing was outside people You could go in there and have everything cut off

Starting point is 00:20:58 And have an abortion is that is that absolutely insane? It was kind of confusing to me because at the DNC, you know, of all these Democrat men, you're offering a vasectomy to a guy who has no balls in the first place. Exactly, see what I'm saying? And you know what's messed up? People, I don't know if you saw this, they bring this guy on stage with ALS in a wheelchair,

Starting point is 00:21:15 and they just put a mic in his face and have him talk. And his wife was like, yeah, this is what he just said. Did you see it? That was awkward. It was very awkward. Honestly, it's disturbing to play for a few seconds. I mean, if he was trying to say something. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey 2008 we met while working on the Obama Biden campaign Are they supposed to be friends? No, no, that's his wife. That's his wife

Starting point is 00:21:51 Nobody here's the thing though. Can they just have prepared that speech for him? They're just that's the Democrat They're trying to make you feel bad for people and that's ridiculous. That's them in a nutshell So Rob play the Steve Kerr clip Let's just react to some of the stuff and then we'll come, we'll give our thoughts on the entire thing. Go ahead. Here's Steve Kerr. This nation doesn't come from any one of us, but from each of us doing our part to build a more perfect union. That vision is what this campaign is all about.

Starting point is 00:22:22 It's why I'm here tonight and it's why I'll be getting out every day to help people get out and vote on November 5th and elect Kamala Harris and Tim Walz as the can, in the words of the great Steph Curry, we can tell Donald Trump, night night. Can I ask you a question? What do they have to do, the DNC, to have a guy like that? I think he's educated, Pat, he's not a stupid guy. For him to go up there and he knows what this administration is about, what Kamala is, who

Starting point is 00:23:12 she isn't, what she is going to do and what she's not going to do. What makes someone like that go up there and basically pitch for what they remember? This is democracy. This is what Joe Biden said yesterday. Democracy has prevailed, democracy has delivered, and now democracy. This is what Joe Biden said yesterday. Democracy has prevailed. Democracy has delivered. And now democracy must be preserved. The democracy is out the window, especially with this campaign.

Starting point is 00:23:32 They forced the sitting president out and he didn't go easy. He was scratching and clung. He didn't want to leave. His wife didn't want him to leave. His crackhead son didn't want him to leave. This is the party of democracy. What makes somebody like Steve Kerr, who's not dumb, PBD go up there and say some some stuff like that. First of all, let me tell you this that guy Crushed it. I thought he did a phenomenal job the best speaker out of all of them

Starting point is 00:23:53 I thought he crushed it. I sure he did a phenomenal job and I thought he could have a career if he chooses to get out of a MBA he would actually make one hell of a Democratic candidate for the left. And you have to realize he is very close to Popovich. Popovich is a hardcore, hardcore guy on the left. Popovich played the role of a liberal to him. And what's interesting with him is his father was a teacher and was the former president back in the days, if you can pull this up, in 1984, Malcolm Kerr was Steve Kerr's father. Malcolm Kerr was a teacher back in the days, and he was teaching in Lebanon, if I'm not mistaken. He was born and raised in Lebanon, and he was served as the president of American University of Beirut from 1982 until 1984 when a jihadi terrorist killed him and

Starting point is 00:24:47 shot him twice in the head and he died. That is Steve Kerr's father, okay? That kind of a once in a lifetime experience does something to you. And his dad was a, I believe politically, he was on the left. And if I'm not mistaken. I didn't know he was Middle Eastern, but he was born in Beirut, the father. I mean, Steve Kerr is Middle Eastern. So part of it, what he's doing, he's got some influence.

Starting point is 00:25:15 I thought he did good. I thought the one thing, Rob, if you go to YouTube, just to kind of see the level of interest people have, go to YouTube and go to Fox News, okay? YouTube Fox News click on that right there and then go to videos where you can see all the recent videos Okay, zoom in a little bit so the audience can see it. Okay, Tommy Lauren 25 minutes go 13,000 views Okay, Fox and friends one hour ago 90,000 views Trump campaign tears 30,000 views the next one 94,000 views Cyrus new 31,000 views. Trump campaign tears 30,000 views. The next one 94,000 views. Cyrus, Newt 31,000 views three hours ago. Vivek, 101,000 views four hours ago. 9100 views, I don't

Starting point is 00:25:54 even know who's speaking. Oh, Whitmer. Low Energy, JD Vance, 76,000 views. Go to the next one, go to the next one, keep going, keep going. Keep going. And I look at Hillary Clinton guys 10 hours ago 13,000 views no one gives a shit what she has to say Go to Twitter, by the way, go on Twitter go on X and go to the poll I ran I haven't so I ran this poll yesterday. We were sitting on together at 5 at 4 p.m I don't know what time it was But I ran a poll zoom in in, and I said who's more unlikable, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, or Nikki Haley? I mean listen, Kamala, you

Starting point is 00:26:34 got to give her super competitive, right? She's trying to win. She's trying to win. Five and a half percent behind Hillary, and then Nikki Haley, actually she can walk away having some respect and some dignity for getting 16 and a half points. That's a bronze medal. Going up against those two. It's respect. Yeah. But Hillary, the goat. Hands down the goat for the most unlikeable candidate in the history of man time. Ever. No, no, seriously. I'm not, I'm not. She's unlikable. Big time. She's unlikable. So she thought Kamala was going to come in first place there. But it's not, it's only 6%. Like it's not like she's that far back within the margin of error. You give her four

Starting point is 00:27:17 years as a president, she will completely surpass Hillary Clinton. Yeah. Trust me. I will say this about Hillary. As far as likability goes. I can understand that as far as credibility goes as far as resume Forget about who you like or don't like. Oh, yeah Hillary Clinton is all way Established letting soldiers die in Benghazi. Yeah, I'm a resume She was every president her server in the basement her illegal activities her the deaths and her you know, Vinnie You can say all that but Hillary Did actually do something. No, I agree right. She was a senator

Starting point is 00:27:47 She was the secretary of state and when you compare that to Kamala Harris who inherited a senate seat that was manipulated for her in California And as a junior senator gets called up to the major leagues after she completely fumbles a political campaign to be president And suddenly she finds herself drafted to be VP, what does her resume look like? No, no, I agree 100%, but when people talk about the resume, actually look at Hillary's resume, yes, she knows how to do the job, but what does she do at the job?

Starting point is 00:28:17 That's the problem. Go back to the DNCSA. She was a true believer in healthcare reform. Look, I'm not gonna ever vote for ever, ever, ever, and you can go down the negatives on Hillary. But what I'm saying is you look at the political resume of somebody who's actually done something in the arena. Oh, no, big time.

Starting point is 00:28:31 And this outfit. Good Lord. As Hillary. It's like being a kindergartner in an All-Star. And by the way, that outfit, I'm telling you guys right now, nothing turns me on more than a couch gutted, and you just put the couch cover on her. That is hot.

Starting point is 00:28:44 I don't know what you think is hot, Rob. Listen, I don't know if you guys just saw what just happened in the last one minute. Vinny unified Adam and Tom. Vinny brought Adam and Tom together over the issue of Hillary Clinton. Isn't that awesome? Tom is officially the spokesperson of Hillary on this podcast. Moving forward, Tom's a spokesperson when it comes down to this. But let's go back to the DNC. So think about dynamics. To me, it's all about dynamics.

Starting point is 00:29:07 I've ran a lot of events over the years, and the events when you run, and it's always where you know the sensitive issues. This guy doesn't get along with that guy. That guy did this. They're going through this. They were the best last year, but they're the lowest this year. It was all about them, but there were some moments at this event where you know one guy's like well last year I saw this person's face. They were so angry because they didn't win MVP. I'm like, they're not winning it again

Starting point is 00:29:35 But think your Obama okay first go from the Obama's lens Obamas are sitting there having to hear people compare com a little bomber pretty you know what that does to obama do you know obama's sit in their same shot the you know that's what obama's in internal right now then you don't think that's what's this is this person that has played a sclerical to nominate somebody

Starting point is 00:30:01 who is the most experienced person for the job, Kamala Harris, and is going to make history, the first woman president, the first African American president, the first AAPI president. And I think someone with her perspective and life experience being in the Oval Office is going to uplift the entire country. It's honestly, I don't think we've seen anything like this in my lifetime. Maybe Barack Obama getting elected, which was an amazing thing too. By the way, that right there, that right there, no, no, no, go back again and pull it up.

Starting point is 00:30:35 Let him do it again. Maybe, maybe, maybe. Let him do it again. Watch this. Press play. Press play. I like this in my lifetime. Look at his face.

Starting point is 00:30:43 Maybe Barack Obama getting elected, which was an amazing thing too. You know why he likes saying that? It's positive. You know why he likes saying that? They're both from Chicago. He's taking a shot at Barack and no one even knows it. He's just kind of taking it. And he's like, look, you guys chose her instead of me? No problem. I'm going to edify Kamala in ways to tell him she's right in front of your face. And you know what he said. he goes, she would be the first female African American president. That is blatantly false. She's Indian and Jamaican. She'd be the first Jamaican Indian, not African American.

Starting point is 00:31:15 I don't know why they keep saying that. Barack Obama's African American, correct? His family's from Africa. This guy's face is just unhealthy. And then when you go through it and you think about Pelosi, you think about in the room, you got Biden, you know Jill doesn't want to be in that room because you know they kicked out her husband. So they want to talk to nobody. And you know on stage, Joe has to keep saying Kamala and I, Kamala and I, Kamala and I, Kamala and I, and she just goes, oh, thank you, Joe. Oh my God. And by the way, there was a scene

Starting point is 00:31:54 with Waltz's wife, which is probably the best. It's at the end of Joe Biden's speech when he's speaking and they zoom in on her. You know what her look is like? I wish there was, I don't know if anybody caught this or not, her look is like, get me the f*** out of here right now. The look that she had on her face. And then last but not least, you have the Clintons that are sitting there, and the Clintons that are sitting there, Clintons are saying, look guys, you know, we were presidents, and I'm Hillary Clinton, I should have been president. We are the ones that run this whole thing here. It is so competitive behind closed doors.

Starting point is 00:32:32 However, as much shit as we want to talk, as much shit as we want to talk, let me tell you what they can't say. You ready? Every Democratic president was at the DNC. Yes. You know what Republicans can't say? Can was at the DNC. You know what Republicans can't say? Can't say the same thing. Bush wasn't there. No way. You got the other guys weren't there.

Starting point is 00:32:52 And so that is the part where they're going to be able to, as much as we may not get along and all this other stuff that you guys can write about, at least we showed up and were unified to beat you. And I don't know if the right can say that. The MAGA can say that And I don't know if the right can say that. The maga can say that. I don't know if the right can say that. I agree. And again, I always give credit where credit's due.

Starting point is 00:33:12 You have to give them credit because, I mean, look at, they have made Kamala Harris in this last, what, guys, how long has it been till he dropped out, Adam? How long till Joel stepped down? Six weeks. Six weeks. She is, they're making her look ish like the savior of the world It is amazing never underestimate the power of legacy media guy I was in arguments yesterday when my cousins in a group chat

Starting point is 00:33:37 They're like she's gonna and she's gonna I go guys. She's been sitting next to this guy for four years What why couldn't she look at Joe and say, hey, Joe, fix this, do that, help this? It's insane to watch, but you got to give them credit, Tom. You have to. Well, I have two thoughts here. And the first thought is what really was going on last night.

Starting point is 00:33:59 We have to look at it as America. And I respect the individuals, but I'm going to talk about the actions. So they knew that Joe Biden was suffering and that he was not capable of governing. And so they chose just not to tell the Americans about it and they chose to keep him quote unquote in the basement until such time to replace him. Number one. Number two, it is pretty ironic and pathetic to go out and say you're trying to save democracy when they would not let capable members of their own party run in an open primary.

Starting point is 00:34:39 If they had said last November, Joe's not going to run again, they knew that last November. They absolutely knew it. They didn't want an open primary They would have had a primary they would have had debates on stage multiple candidates some that fumble some that stumble some that rise To the top they didn't want that they kept him there. So that's called democracy Yeah, instead they just let him not show up and have you know all the mail-in ballots So it was like watching Vladimir Putin do 48 state primaries. Oh, you won against her. No opponents.

Starting point is 00:35:11 And that's how Biden went through the primaries. Well, that happens. And then they come back and say they're defending democracy when they basically hand select Kamala, when they had no other choices because they can't not select the vice president. If she's good enough from the presidency, why isn't she good enough to run for president? Yeah. And so I felt like... Very good point. I felt like this was... Great strategy though, Tom. It was a fantastic strategy. Great strategy to not have a primary. And by the way, you know, the strategy

Starting point is 00:35:44 worked, but what... That's my first point. The strategy worked and that's what they did and they're not defenders of democracy. They found a strategy around it. And the rest of last night was basically glossing over the coup and you could see it in the eyes of the other people. You could see it there and remember I actually I have a third point Obama was the last one to endorse and there were leaks that came out Including a comment by Carville that he held his tongue and he kind of pulled it back in that said I know that Barack was not exactly so but well, let me say this again My understanding is that he was he was, took him a while to get there. Remember, Carville pulled it back in. What he was about to say was that Obama was not in favor of the pick.

Starting point is 00:36:31 Yeah. And you know what this reminded me of? You guys remember the, when they cheated Bernie Sanders and the camera goes to Bernie. The South Carolina switch. Exactly. And I just felt that vibe. And you know what I've been hearing, PB people, the rumors that I've been hearing is that if for some reason, Joe Biden can't continue and he steps down or whatever, whatever happens, right? I can't, I can't do it. They vote. Can she becomes the first Jamaican Indian president that would help her out so much because you'll never get rid of a female first time president if she's actually sitting

Starting point is 00:37:02 in office. Did you hear about that, Tom? Well, the yeah, the it's called the incumbency effect. And the incumbency effect, they say, is worth at least four points in this current election. The incumbency effect, that if she was president, then she would be able to say, although she doesn't have much time, to say, she goes on an international trip, she appears, she does a speech in front of Congress, she appears presidential, and that's good for about four points. And that's a great tactic.

Starting point is 00:37:29 You see how that works? Yeah, if you want to talk about tactics, he's on, great point. He's on vacation in California, who knows? He falls, gets bitten by a shark. Well, fully agree with what PBD had to say about being unified in public, but don't look now at Brace for Impact. Kamala Harris is now the favorite to become the president of the United States. The full on favorite.

Starting point is 00:37:54 I'm sure you can find the odds on Vegas and that's what I track. And to me, that is shocking because if we just go back a month in time when Biden completely stumbled, the odds were maybe 55-45 Trump. The odds skyrocketed towards Trump, almost towards 70%. We were not sure what was happening with the Democratic party. And I compared it to them basically hitting the iceberg on the Titanic. If you told me a month ago, after Trump got shot, after Biden's failure to even communicate, after having zero clue who's going to be the president, that a month later the Democrats would be favored to win the election, I'd say get the hell out of

Starting point is 00:38:38 here. That is insane. But that's exactly what's going on. So we can mock people. We could basically state your case. I'm with you. But unless you're convincing those independents, you're just screaming into the wind. Well, it doesn't help. So in my opinion, they're only making things worse by, look, I've said loudly and proudly, there's no way I'm voting for Kamala. I'm either going with Trump or RFK.

Starting point is 00:39:02 And if it's not a wasted vote on RFK, I'm going with Trump. You know, this is the whole conversation of being red-pilled and blue-pilled. But nobody does a better job of basically putting all the drama in the past and just coalescing around a candidate. You know, there was a head coach for the New York Jets. I know you're a Giants guy. Do you remember there was a coach in the New York Jets. His name was Herm Edwards. Of course.

Starting point is 00:39:25 Remember her? His most famous speech was the wind speech. And he basically said, you play to win the game. It doesn't matter what you do. They don't remember what happened in the game. They remember the final score on the scoreboard. You play to win the game. And what the Democrats are doing is they're putting lipstick on a pig.

Starting point is 00:39:49 They're parading out Kamala as if she deserves to be this nominee. By the way, her approval ratings, if you want to just look at her approval ratings, they were July 4th, minus 17, less than Trump. Right now they're minus two your approval rating Trump held steady it's basically nine or ten so we could criticize and make fun of the DNC all you want but every single person whether it's Barack Obama whether it's Clinton whether it's Hillary Clinton words Pelosi Bernie Sanders a frequency shows up and gives their speech at the DN at the RNC, which I think they had a great RNC.

Starting point is 00:40:29 I think they were completely aligned. There was no George Bush. There was no Jeb Bush. There was no people that basically were the rhinos or the Lincoln Project people. They don't want them there. The Cheney's of the world. So if you ask yourself, how the hell do these absolute buffoons who stand for nothing beat the Republicans who I can argue stand for a lot more For where America's concerned because they don't care they have three letters that they care about and that's WIN

Starting point is 00:40:56 And they're playing to win the game despite how horribly they should lose Let me let me go to the next story and again you can whatever you wanted to ask me can ask me this next story So far-right influencers turn against Trump campaign. Okay, this is leading to that story because this is the part where they have to be paying very close attention to so Influencers like Nick Fuentes Laura Loomer Candace Owens are turning against Donald Trump's campaign accusing it of being too soft and veering away from Laura Loomer, Candace Owens, are turning against Donald Trump's campaign, accusing it of being too soft and veering away from hard-bred positions that energized his base in 2016. Fuentes claimed Trump's campaign was headed for catastrophic loss while Loomer criticized

Starting point is 00:41:32 his weak surrogates and Owens described the situation as a mega civil war. These influencers who previously boosted Trump's online presence are now threatening a digital war against the campaign unless it shifts further right. Fuentes has urged his followers to adopt guerrilla tactics, including mass appearances at Trump rallies and withholding their votes to pressure the campaign into stop pandering to independence. The backlash from far-right figures who have millions of followers highlight a new vulnerability in Trump's base as his campaign struggles with slumping poll numbers. Adam, your thoughts on this. Well, here's the problem that, and I've interviewed Nick Fuentes, we've obviously had Candace here, we can go down the list of people we've spoken to, and

Starting point is 00:42:18 this kind of goes back to my previous point about you're never gonna have an ideal candidate. You're never going to agree with somebody 100%. So we just saw the Reagan movie, right? With our friend Dennis Quaid, there was one quote that stuck out to me about the Reagan movie. And it was arguably one of Reagan's most powerful quote that people don't talk about. People talk about the quote, you know, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down the wall. We all know that. And then, you know, the scariest things you could ever hear are from I'm the government, I'm coming to help. I'm here to help. But actually, the most powerful thing that Ronald Reagan has ever said, and this is something that you should think about

Starting point is 00:42:57 if you're trying to win elections, and it's the following. A person who agrees with you 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% trader. Think about that for a second. 80% agreeance, they're your ally, they're your friend, they're not your enemy. And what happens is, whether it's the Candaces of the world, whether it's the Nick Fuentes in the world, they think that Donald Trump or the MAGA party, the America First Party should do everything that they say because that's how they feel that's what's going on. It doesn't work that way. And you think that Joe Biden and AOC are 100% aligned? Not at all. But they're willing to say, you know what? I don't agree with you on that. I agree with that. But we have a common enemy and that's Donald Trump. Whatever it is, we're going to get together.

Starting point is 00:43:45 We're going to do this thing. What happens is when you're so, so tethered to your principles and there's zero exception of what you'll make in between, there's no room for daylight. So you have Nick Fuentes, who has been one of Trump's biggest allies, Candace Owens, Trump's biggest allies. Who was the other person that you said? Laura Lo Laura Loomer who I've met with we spoke with I Hosted a debate with her against Dave Smith. I've never seen a more in a positive way delusional Donald Trump Advocate, but by the way, she is very pro-israel and she's critical that Trump isn't doing enough. And then Nick Fuentes and Candice, if you

Starting point is 00:44:25 haven't seen her, not exactly pro-Israel these days. So you have these people who are completely in MAGA world, 70, 80, 90% agreeance with MAGA, America first. Yet now they're basically saying no, we're out, we're off the ship. So what's your other choice? It's a binary option. So you're not going to vote for Trump. You're going to have all your grippers or all your people that are a part of your camp not vote for Trump. Tell me how that serves you getting Kamala elected. It makes no sense to me. So all you're going to do is fight and in war civil war within yourselves and then just

Starting point is 00:44:58 allow Kamala Harris to win the White House because you're not 100% aligned with Trump. I think it's a horrible short sighted strategy. So because I I was gonna ask it when you were talking about earlier Adam about you know The Democrats and what they're doing and and Tom we talked about their tactics pal I'll ask you a question and you Tom so the Republicans have what Fox News and X correct spaces, whatever whatever the Democrats have all mainstream legacy media whatever. The Democrats have all mainstream legacy media, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, local news, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, you name it. If you were Trump's campaign manager, what, because this is, this is how the rules are set up. This is, you're not going to change that because the messaging item, the reason that she's up is because she's everywhere. Every channel you see is Kamala, Kamala, Kamala,

Starting point is 00:45:43 Kamala, Kamala, Fox, you see Trump, and Elon talked to him. What would you do as a campaign manager right now, PBD, to turn this whole thing around for Trump? Because obviously the numbers aren't lying. Influencers are turning. You know what I mean? He's only really out there in two spots and what, truth social.

Starting point is 00:46:00 What would be a tactic to get him out there more to kind of like quell that that okay? So let's let's go through a couple things here one pull up Reuters report here party affiliation among Muslims Okay, so let's look at this year Muslims on how they vote ready 17% Republican 21% no-leaning 62% Muslims are still going to vote for Democrats. So you look at this and why are they going to vote for Democrats? Because free Palestine and you saw the 100,000 people in the streets, whatever the amount

Starting point is 00:46:35 of people were, I don't want to say the number, I read 100,000, but it was a lot of people in the streets of Chicago, protesting outside. By the way, in Milwaukee, nobody boarded up businesses. In Chicago, go look at how many businesses were boarding up their business, just to say, we are doing it just in case riots protesting take place. Okay, so guess what? When you look at that data with Muslims, what do you notice? You notice what?

Starting point is 00:47:02 You notice a big percentage of them are not going to vote for Trump. Tell me what Muslims coming out here right now trying to campaign for Trump. Who? Who's going out there saying we're voting for Trump? Trust me, I've seen them. We have them in our company. Guys who are Muslims who will be voting for Trump, they're part of the 17%. But is that 62% moving dramatically?

Starting point is 00:47:22 So what do you want Trump to do? Do you want Trump to sit there and, so as a campaign manager, the first thing we would do is who do we, who are we not going to win at all? Like forget about women. No matter what we, no, no, he has to. That's a, who are we not going to win? No matter what we do, you can never please them. You think Republican, you think Trump can really please Muslims? You think Trump can really please Muslims? You think

Starting point is 00:47:46 Trump can really please Muslims? Let me ask you a question. What does he have to do to please Muslims? Right now? Yeah. Give me the Muslim vote. Change his Jewish and Israeli positions. Completely denounce Israel and everything that Israel is doing. Okay, so let's go, that is the only way. I think that's the only way. Okay, perfect. So if he does that, what happens? I mean, obviously there goes the Jewish vote. Well hang on, it's like a teeter totter. You lose the Jewish vote, but you gain the Muslim vote.

Starting point is 00:48:12 Okay, what is the— Some of it. Some of it may not believe it. Now let me ask you a question. Pull up, Rob. How much money Muslims give to their political campaign? How much money do they contribute to their political party? How much money do they contribute to their political party? How much money do they contribute to their political party?

Starting point is 00:48:28 Do you actually have the number, like if you'd be able to pull it up, because some people have total contribution to political party by religion. Let's see if we have it. By religion. Does that show up, part of our religion? I want to know money. I want exact amount of money being given. And what I'm looking for is United Methodist Church, all this.

Starting point is 00:48:54 Okay, so that's Open Secrets is talking about churches. Party filation by voting. No, I don't want party filation. I want exact dollar amount. Okay? I want exact dollar amount. If you were to put the two dollar amounts between the Muslims and Jews, who do you think gives more?

Starting point is 00:49:10 Jewish people. Okay, and it's not even close. By the way, do you know 17% of billionaires in America are Jewish? 17%. 17%. They are 0.2% of the population, but they are 17% of billionaires. In other words, one out of every six billionaires is Jewish. So guess how they negotiate with their money and their power. That's what they do.

Starting point is 00:49:36 That's how they negotiate. So he has to choose between the two, and he realizes a lot of these guys that are coming out saying, free Palestine, free Palestine, free Palestine, free Palestine. You can do your best to try to bring up free Palestine, but then if you play that card and you try to play the card that is pro-Jewish, guess what you lose? Guess what you lose if you try to do both? You lose both. So guess who experienced that?

Starting point is 00:49:58 You know who lost both? Biden lost both. Biden lost both, and then Jews are like, Bill Ackman, listen, I'm out of here. Ken Griffin, I'm out of here. Some of these things that you guys are doing, I'm out of here. Is that the pro-Israel or pro-Israel? Okay, right there, pro-Israel PAC, 8.7 million. You got the pro-Era PAC, $97,000.

Starting point is 00:50:20 And that's 2020 cycle. Which by the way, long term, if Muslims truly want want to compete they can sit there and say whatever they want You guys got to get your folks to get better at business to make more money and move up in the business world in the business World because that's what Jews do. That's what they do. So now That choice. Hey all the people that are free Palestine and they're Muslims, you're not going to win them over. You are not going to win them over. Here on this side, you can't win them over.

Starting point is 00:50:53 Some of them even that were former Democrats that are influencers that can come back and vote for you. Let's go talk to those guys. Next, when it comes down to this, next part is independent. Let's make a list of the top ten most influential independent voters. Independent and Libertarian voters. Who are the top ten most influential independent and Libertarian voters? Peter Thiel. Okay. Brings money, brings heat, and a lot of people

Starting point is 00:51:19 follow him. And some people say that Peter Thiel brought JD Vance, right? Some people say Peter Thiel brought JD Vance, and that's his candidate. So guess what? That means Peter Thiel does have some influence on the inside. Fine, Peter Thiel was on what podcast just last week? He was on Rogan. He was on Rogan last week. Rogan is at the top of the list of independents that you probably want to have a…

Starting point is 00:51:39 I disagree. I disagree. I think there's one person above Rogan. Who? Elan? No. No, no. It's not even that space. I think in this context, it's who they respond to. Like Rogan responds to RFK, not the other way around. I think they need to go get RFK. I think somehow, somewhere, you've got to go get a powerful job to RFK and you've got

Starting point is 00:51:58 to recruit them over. I agree. And whether that's going to happen or not, I don't know if it's going to happen. But if you go get an RFK, then who do you get? You go get the biggest crypto voice that's going to happen or not, I don't know if it's going to happen. But if you go get an RFK, then who do you get? You go get the biggest crypto voice that's out there, whoever it is, and I'm talking massive, massive crypto voice that you've got to go get out there because that's a completely different political party. But it's a strategy of me putting the top ten independents, one by one by one I'm calling

Starting point is 00:52:20 them, and I'm asking, it's a matchup system you're using. What the matchup system is, hey, who's got the closest relationship with RFK? Would you mind flying out and having a meeting with them? I'll take care of it. Let me go have a meeting with them. Who's got the best relation with such and such? Don't worry about it. I'm meeting with them.

Starting point is 00:52:35 Who's got the best relation? You have to go play the match-up system and send the best people to go out there and negotiate on your behalf. You have to do that. And I don't know if it's happening right now. By the way, the chart that you showed up Vegas, Rob, go back to that chart that Adam was talking about. It's all the way, yeah. Look longer like a that conversation is not being had in regards to these influencers The far-right influencers, you know, we Candace Owens Nick Fuentes Laura Loomer Dambos area who I had on that even he cannot stand

Starting point is 00:53:16 Israel like to him he thinks the world's a better place without Israel even being in existence like his position was Extreme extreme extreme which one is this Rob the clip? This is where he talks about Israel even being in existence, like his position was extreme, extreme, extreme. Which one is this Rob, the clip? Rob Luganoff This is where he talks about Israel's involvement in 9-11, JFK's assassination and others. Yvonne Perret Okay, so this is very aligned with what Candace was saying. So maybe play this clip and then let's go to Candace's clip.

Starting point is 00:53:37 Robert R. Reilly I've done so many things that would constitute an act of war against us. I mean, USS Liberty, Levin affair, I mean, it can go on and on and on and on and on. But I think they knew about 9-11. I think they had JFK assassinated. The first thing that he wanted to do right before he died was make APAC a foreign entity

Starting point is 00:53:59 and not allow them to have nukes. And then all of a sudden this fucking guy's dead and Jack Ruby, it was Jack Rubenstein. And then you just, I don't know, man, I can't ignore all the shit that they've done. They've sold their secrets. NetYahu lied to us about weapons of mass destruction. We fought all these fucking wars.

Starting point is 00:54:16 My friends have died over there, like, you know, and I just look at what they provided. Watch the level of alignment. Go to Candace. Play this clip. So we've got this friend and ally, and we're not allowed to ask questions about JFK's shooting. Or the USS Liberty. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:40 The massade there on the day that JFK was shot. The arguments that he was having in the days preceding with their prime minister, still classified. People never heard of what they were arguing about. And then Jacob Rubenstein shoots the guy who said he didn't shoot the guy. Do you have a question about that, UND Semite? Don't come at me. Don't even, like I don't even want to hear questions.

Starting point is 00:55:04 We're not allowed to ask about, even speak about the USS Liberty. The fact that, like, after October 7th, they jammed through a bill in Congress, okay? And they were like, we must have an October 7th day of remembrance in school. Kids must learn about this in school. And we can't get one for the USS Liberty. Rob, play the next clip of Candace's one. This one wrote, Adam, you have to stop hollering honestly. That basically every person who speaks about Israel has to basically say a statement that's like,

Starting point is 00:55:35 I don't wanna get killed. Like literally, you guys are speaking about people who are like, Candace, beef up your security. That's not fucking normal. It's not normal that people have to think about their security because, and by the way, so then the way that you get comfortable with it is you're like, well, you know,

Starting point is 00:55:53 they shot JFK in an open car. So there's not, I mean, it's the same president. I mean, obviously in my experience. You watched the podcast, you're hearing some of the stuff. And by the way, just so you know, I listened to most of her Twitter, what do you call it? I watch the spaces, me too. The spaces that she did with Dave Smith and with Dan.

Starting point is 00:56:13 The Jewish guide. The other Zionists. I listen to it. I listen to the arguments. Adam? Well, let's just take Dan and Candice and kind of treat them separately because I don't know how aligned they are other than they certainly don't seem to be fans of Israel. So I have a lot more respect for Candice than I do Dan because this is somebody, whether

Starting point is 00:56:35 you agree with her or not, has at least studied topics and is at least known for certain topics. Geopolitics, not exactly her forte. I would say she's better at domestic. Dan Bilzerian, it was nice of him to take time out of one of his orgies and gang bangs to weigh in on Gaza-Israel dynamics. I'm sure he's very well versed at this. You asked him at one point, hey, you read a lot? You read a lot of books? He's like, no, not not at all. So my assumption is he's going completely irrational, emotional, and he's just parroting whatever somebody told him. And clearly there's some things that are going on here, whether it's a JFK assassination, whether it's the Bolshevik revolution, whether it's the USS Liberty that we can discuss,

Starting point is 00:57:25 that these are now talking points where of course it's the Jews. All right. Well, you know, where am I going with all this? You know, you wrote a book, Choose Your Enemies Wisely. So you know, there's also another phrase, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. No, not my enemy. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. So nice, Vince. I love you. So when you look at who, who's us is greatest allies are removed, complete emotion,

Starting point is 00:57:55 emotion and how you feel about certain countries, some type of way. Who are us is top 10 allies. You can even probably Google this. So without even having an exact list, I'll tell you exactly who it is. It's the UK, it's Canada, it's Australia, basically people part of the Queens from the Queen of England, Canada. Then you have the EU countries, you have Germany, France, you have the Netherlands, then you have Japan, South Korea, Israel rounding out the top 10. Now you can pick who's where, what's who, where's what. Okay, so Israel's in the top 10. This shows Israel's number one. So what I do is this, I say, all right, those are my allies. How close am I to each of my allies? Well, you know, UK, all right, cool, we're there.

Starting point is 00:58:45 They have a quote unquote special relationship. Israel, we get that. Germany, what have you. But then you have to make a list of who your enemies are. And we've had the last same four enemies for decades now. Who are the four enemies that like they have not changed in decades? It's the same countries. You have Iran, you have Russia, you have China, and

Starting point is 00:59:05 then you have North Korea. Those are the big four. But then after that, here's what's important for people to understand. There's a whole host of countries that are on our enemies list that we are not aligned with, that we are not friends with, that we're not looking to become friends with. Who are these countries? Well, Afghanistan, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, a whole host of African countries. And part of that list is the Palestinian territories. They're not our allies. Any group out there that is shouting death to America, death to Israel, they're not our friends.

Starting point is 00:59:40 So here's what's interesting about allies. They're not always your allies. And the trust level moves So it's interesting to me that I just read the top 10 list Japan Germany Italy the UK Also Spain each one of these countries, you know, we've done with we've gone to full-on war against We were just fighting Germany 70 years ago Against the Nazis. We were just fighting Imperial Japanese and now they're our allies. We went to war against Spain in the American Spanish war.

Starting point is 01:00:13 We got our independence from the UK. So to say yes, we've had checkered pasts with our allies would be an understatement. So now we want to bring up Israel. Okay, what have they done? What are they doing for us? Well, we've actually never been to war with them. Now if you want to go to the narrative like, well, they're taking over the United States. Well, just go to opensecrets.org.

Starting point is 01:00:34 You can see how much APAC in every country basically contributes to the United States. But what type of shared interest do we have with Israel? Tech, military, intelligence, finance, loyalty, trust, values, principles, Judeo-Christian values, regional stability. So the concept that Dan Bilzerian, who just fresh out of banging three chicks, decided to weigh in on Israel-Gaza relations, it just shows that he has no clue what's going on out there. So if you want to choose your enemies wisely. So okay, in order for Israel to be an enemy, which you're claiming Dan Bilzerian, that means Iran, the Islamic Republic is now your friend.

Starting point is 01:01:14 That means you're advocating for the Houthis, the Hezbollah, the Hamas. So it's a very slippery slope when you start going down the path of this group who is my ally should be my enemy, what happens to your actual enemies? So Dan is completely misinformed. Now Candice, real quick, I think this is a complete emotional, nonsensical, illogical, irrational response to what happened with Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire. Because besides Israel, think about it for a second, you know,

Starting point is 01:01:45 we just talked about Reagan and 80%, Ben and Candice are very aligned. They're conservatives, they believe in God, they believe in traditional family values. You can go down the list, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And you can notice the reason why they actually aligned in the first place. But this one issue drove such a wedge and now they're enemies And we've seen countrymen become enemies before and that's why they have civil wars So what's happening right now is that her emotions are getting the best of her and my question to Candice who I think is a very Logical actor who is completely acting illogically is where do you want to go from here? How many allies, friends do

Starting point is 01:02:25 you want to distance yourself from? Because we already know that she has no friend of the woke left, the progressive. 80% of black people don't even like Candice. I actually was a fan of Candice. I think she hit the nail on the head with BLM, with feminism, with COVID, a lot of stuff. But then what happens is there's a difference between having brains and having hubris. And hubris is having excessive pride. Everything I say turns to gold. Well, not really. Because what happens is you basically fractured the conservative party because the Charlie Kirk's of the world, the Ben Shapiro's of the world, they're actually overwhelmingly

Starting point is 01:03:00 pro-Israel. So now Candace is going to find her point and who's her audience now? Because she's abandoned the left, she's abandoned the moderate, she's abandoned the conservatives, she's going to find herself in a very weird void where she's now the new Kanye befriending Nick Fuentes, who by the way doesn't like black people Candace, and you're going to find yourself basically aligning with the Islamists who also are not a fan of Christianity. So I feel like she's completely lost her way. And my hope for Candace, who I have respect for, is that she can find her way and walk this back.

Starting point is 01:03:37 Because even the craziest anti-Semite in the last couple years has been Kanye had to basically come out and say, sorry, guys, I was actually bipolar, my bad, and had to do an apology tour. I think Candace is better than that and I hope she does better. Let me ask you a question. You think Candace hates Jews? You think she's anti-Semitic? I don't think she did, but now she probably does. Okay, so you believe that Candace Owens internally hates Jewish people? Like Adam, she doesn't like you. I don't. I'm just asking yes or no. See that's the problem. No, no, no, no. I have to get to my point because all she's doing, Adam, is pointing things out that forever were forbidden. You could never say anything about Israel. You couldn't say anything about Jews or else what happened? Says who? No, hold on, hold on. You were canceled. Adam, Adam. But you say you can't say anything about Jews.

Starting point is 01:04:25 Let me finish. Says who? People pointing out. Pretty sure I see a lot of comments about Jews. Hold on. People point... Okay. Tell me one thing that she's been stating

Starting point is 01:04:32 that is false about what Israel has done. Or Benjamin Netanyahu has done. Or hold on a second. Or the USS Liberty. And I'm sick and tired of people. And I know you said this. It was 50 years ago. I don't give a shit if it was 200 years ago.

Starting point is 01:04:44 The fact that they attacked and killed 34 American soldiers and got away with it, that's an act of war. Adam, let's just be honest with each other, okay? At least with X, we can have, hold on, I'm almost done. We can have a conversation where she can have Andrew Tate, where she can have a Zionist, and we can have a conversation and a debate, okay? And I believe that there's a huge, huge misconception that the moment you criticize what Israel does as a nation, you are freaking anti-Semite. That's why they're pushing, they pushed that bill in Congress. It's BS. And they get away

Starting point is 01:05:15 with a lot, Adam. I don't know if you guys noticed this. A couple of weeks ago, Israeli soldiers were on camera raping Palestinian prisoners, detainees. Show it to me. were on camera raping Palestinian prisoners, detainees. Okay, I sent it to Rob. I sent it to Adam. Am I anti-Semite now? Because I'm proving that not only did they not get in trouble, Israelis came to the prison and rioted

Starting point is 01:05:36 to get those soldiers out, and then the soldiers were released, and one of them was on camera saying, yeah, we did it, and what? So here's my point, Adam. Just because you want to criticize a certain, Adam, people criticize it, and what? So here's my point, Adam, just because you want to criticize a certain, Adam, people criticize the United States all the time. I criticize as a veteran, George Bush Jr., and the act of disgustingness that he did

Starting point is 01:05:54 with 9-11 and freaking Iraq and weapons of mass destruction. Why do you think they don't? Why do you think, so did you read the book Israeli Lobby? I'm almost finished. Okay. So, what did you catch about the fact that every president, since Nixon, since Carter, when they negotiated the terms, since Gerald Ford and Kissinger, since every one of them that tried to negotiate terms, this goes all the way back to giving credit to how Jews negotiated contracts many, many years ago. Yeah, and that's it. I got that. And when you look at that you're like, okay, these guys were the only

Starting point is 01:06:34 ones that negotiated terms that instead of getting quarterly payments when US was helping them out, they would get payments all up front. Yeah. A hundred percent of money would be given up front. And then many times when money that was given to Israel to help out, many times a part of the negotiation would be like, oh, let's just write it off. And even to the point where one time, Clinton, you know, they negotiated something and they didn't follow what Clinton asked them to do and they wanted Clinton to go out there to kind of commemorate and say, hey, we're doing this. He said, I'm not even coming. Forget about it. You guys do it on your own right mm-hmm okay so why do you think that happened

Starting point is 01:07:07 well because I wrote this down baby and I said I give them credit where credit's due the business savvy the decision-making the alliances the we're Assyrian I wish Assyrians did that that thing my only thing Pat yeah is the accountability when they make mistakes that's it that's all I think especially people like Candace. Where's the accountability? Shouldn't you get in trouble for for attacking a u.s. Ship shouldn't you get in trouble what if if other country? Raped prisoners on camera. It would have been an international everybody would be going nuts It just seems and that's what she's pointing out Pat that when that when it comes to Israel, they get away with a lot. So let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.

Starting point is 01:07:49 So, should a guy I had on who was Thomas Jefferson's great-great-great-great-grandson, sixth generation's grandson, and he goes out there and he trashes Thomas Jefferson and says, we need to remove Thomas Jefferson's statue and replace it with, you know, who did he want to replace it to? Yeah, that's exactly the person, the grandson, if you can pull that up. Prescott, I believe. Thomas Jefferson's, that was his name. Go up, probably, let me read what I'm reading on Thomas Jefferson's, no, not this one, the other one. There's another one that he says. And he says, we need to remove, and I'm so disappointed with my great, great, great, great, great grandfather, and George Washington was a slave owner, Vinny.

Starting point is 01:08:29 He was a slave owner. And because of that, we need to do this. What do you say to blacks that say George Washington was a slave owner, and we need to teach that to our kids in America that are going to school? What do you say to that? I 100% say you say everything truthful and honest, because that's how we got where we got, and that's history Yeah

Starting point is 01:08:45 And you can't run or hide from the history and taking down a statue isn't gonna take away the fact that these people did What they did is it for educational purposes only or what do you want to do with it? Because we have a pretty ugly history as well disgusting, but what do you want to do with our history in what sense? Well, I mean we have we have ugly history. We've done some some ugly shit. Big time. What should we do with that? I mean learn from mistakes and get better and not let the past make us you know do it again in the future. All right so so I can I can can I do that with black history where the first slave owner in America, do you know who was the first person that owned slaves in America? It was a black man. It was a black man. Yeah. Can you write up was the first person that owned slaves in America? It was a black man. It was a black man. Can you write up Rob, the first slave owner in America?

Starting point is 01:09:28 First slave owner in America was a black man who owned slaves. So what should we do with that guy? Should we go and say, oh, horrible? The point with everything that you're saying with the rape and all that stuff on what happened, I can show videos of women being stoned to death in the Middle East. It's a regular Tuesday, okay, for adultery. How do you feel about that? It's horrible, but are they our number one ally? Are they the people that we give everything to and that we are told that we have to pick

Starting point is 01:09:58 a side and protect? What you just said is very important, and this is the slippery slope with Candace when I gave her my feedback. Privately, I gave her my feedback. I'm not going to tell everybody what feedback I gave her, but I gave her my feedback when her and I were speaking. So for me, the part is when you go the direction you're going, then Dan goes to the world's a better place without Israel being in existence. Now you're playing with fire. So that is the part where this whole movement is going to, the movement is going to turn

Starting point is 01:10:30 and support too. Okay, so who do I support? Not Trump. Oh shit, okay. So who do I support? You support anti-Israel. Okay, so who do I support? Muslims?

Starting point is 01:10:46 Well, they're a religion of peace. Really? Are you seeing Tommy Robinson, what's going on in the UK? You're not with it? Are you with it? No. Okay, so check this out. This last week, you know who we had on here?

Starting point is 01:10:59 Here's who we had on here. I never knew this until this data came through this week. And by the way, I haven't made friends last week, if you haven't looked at Twitter. I haven't made any new friends where I'm- We're still good. Yeah. No, I don't worry about it. I don't wake up in the morning trying to win people or not or do any of that stuff.

Starting point is 01:11:16 I wake up in the morning and try to process issues myself. So last week we had him on, on Friday. Dominic Tarczynski, I don't know if you know who he is. I love him. Dominik Tarczynski is the two-time European Parliament and Polish Parliament. Dominik Tarczynski, he comes here. You ever seen the clip on what he says, Rob, can you pull up that clip where he's being interviewed and he says, not one? I want you to watch this clip. Go ahead, play this clip. Oh, I love this. How many refugees has Poland taken?

Starting point is 01:11:47 Zero. And you're proud of that? If you are asking me about Muslims' illegal immigration, none, not even one, will come to Poland. Not even one if it's illegal. We took over two million Ukrainians who are working, who are peaceful in Poland. We will not receive even one Muslim because this is what we promised. But I asked not about illegal immigrants, I asked about refugees. And Jean-Claude Juncker, the Commission President, says that you're racist. You sound proud of the fact that you

Starting point is 01:12:22 haven't taken any refugees. Of course, because this is what our people are expecting from our government. That's number one. This is why our government was elected. But this is why Poland is so safe. This is the reason why we had not even one terrorist attack. Look at the streets in Poland. And we can be called populists, nationalists, racists. I don't care. I care about my family and about my country. By the way, let me give you some stats here. You ready?

Starting point is 01:12:54 Do you know what is the number one country in Europe out of 27 countries in crime? Least amount of crime? Poland. Poland. Do you know who has the lowest amount of rape? Poland. Do you know who has the lowest amount of rape? Poland. Do you know who has the lowest amount of unemployment rate? Poland.

Starting point is 01:13:09 Do you know who has the least amount of Muslim population in Europe? Poland. .1%. So to all the Muslims who are like, oh my God, that's exactly, we know you're a Zionist person and da-da-da, I'm doing a video on AIPAC that's coming out in two weeks. I'm not an ally. We don't sit there and by the way, 100% of what we do with Valuetainment, we don't take money from everybody.

Starting point is 01:13:29 We've never raised capital from anybody. And if you notice, we don't even do sponsorships anymore. I told everybody no. Millions on top of millions of dollars of money. Take gold money. Take this. I don't want it right now. Why do you not want it?

Starting point is 01:13:43 Because I'm doing sponsorship with our businesses that we're running. If you like what we stand for, you support us, support Monek, support The Merge, support Bay David Consulting, support the Vault. If you don't totally get it, go support somebody else. We're not even taking sponsorship money right now. People are begging us to take millions of dollars of free cash. Zero. We don't have a sponsorship department here.

Starting point is 01:14:02 Tell me one podcast in the world that doesn't have a freaking sponsorship department and they're not relying on other people giving them money. No one gives us money to tell us what to do. We own 100% of the company today. Will we end up raising money? Yes we will. Who? Strategic partners.

Starting point is 01:14:16 Until then, ain't nobody telling us what to do. But going back to this, why is Poland the lowest in crime if they have the lowest Muslim population? Should we not look at data? should we not look at data should we not look at data by the way who's the highest in Muslim population with France who's the highest in crime friends why is that why are we not asking that question by the way I'm at a restaurant the other day a Muslim guy pulls up to me, super respectful, and he asks me, you know, hey, let me tell you, and da-da-da-da, I don't agree with

Starting point is 01:14:49 you and all this stuff, and my kids are sitting, Dylan was worried because Dylan's looking at me, I'm like, this guy's going to do something, but it was actually a very respectful conversation. So that's the question. Where are you going with it? Now, let's talk Israel. Let's talk Mossad. Some very weird history with Israel. Just some very, very weird stuff that's with history.

Starting point is 01:15:15 We all got it, by the way, but they got some weird part of it on how they negotiate their terms. American people, politicians, should have been very dumb when they negotiated terms to give money up front without quarterly payments. Do you know what that means? Let me explain to you what that means. It's kind of like you have booking a speaker for the Volk conference, and you pay all the money up front.

Starting point is 01:15:34 Nobody ever pays all the money up front. You know how it works? You pay half up front, half when it's at the event. Nobody says, hey, here's the entire speaking fee up front. Nobody does that. And if you book the speaker a year in advance, it's quarter, quarter, quarter, hey, here's the entire speaking fee up front. Nobody does that. And if you book the speaker, you're in advance, it's quarter, quarter, quarter, quarter, quarter. So say we book somebody for $300,000. $75K here, $75K six months out, $75K three months out, $75K at the event.

Starting point is 01:15:58 That's kind of how it works. What are we doing paying the whole thing money up front? I don't know. What are we doing with the amount of intel that we're giving Massad? Why are we giving Massad as much? Because they're an ally? Okay, everything? Are they giving us everything? I don't know. And you go in and you see some of the other stuff that's being taken place. This is the part that I know this is going to sound freaking so weird to say this. I am a Christian first. I am a father and family second, is what I am.

Starting point is 01:16:31 And I am America third. I'm not in a country, America is first, but I'm Christian first, then I'm a family guy, my family and friends, people that are with me, then for me it's America. I'm not sitting here trying to win a political party and all this other stuff, but again on the other hand, Trump is winning for office. So some of these things that, you know, these guys that are doing the Knicks or Candice or other density is going to vote for Trump, and I Trump and I know Candace gonna vote for Trump they're criticizing the president okay at the end they're all gonna vote for Trump but what they

Starting point is 01:17:13 don't realize they're doing they may have pushed some people away from Trump and that's what they did and why why is that what sometimes what do sometimes brats get upset about? If they don't get it their way. If they don't get it their way, if they don't get hurt. So maybe some of these guys, you know, like for example, I really want Trump to do Rogan's podcast, but I really want Rogan to do, what do you call it, Trump's podcast. If Rogan doesn't do Trump, have you ever heard me criticize a Rogan for not bringing Trump

Starting point is 01:17:48 on or any of this? It's his freaking choice. If he chooses to do it or not, I'd love to see it. I'm sure a lot of people would love to have Trump on and they want to get Trump's attention. Just to get a nod, hey, we hear you. Maybe he doesn't want to do it. Does he have to do it? Does he have to do it? Does he have to do it with everybody?

Starting point is 01:18:07 Is it that much attention that you need? Is your attention over a Kamala? Is that where you are? Is it more you getting attention over your country? I don't know. And yes, Trump did go to Israel and yes, he is Israel supporting them. That's the position he took. You don't like it?

Starting point is 01:18:26 Guess what? Go make a ton of money and bring alliances together. Just make sure whoever you bring alliances with have money and influence that they can do something about it. Or else, it's just a show to get more eyeballs and more, what do you call it, more eyeballs and more fame and trendy. And by the way, there are a lot of stories that you can pick and go with that the temperature of it goes zero to 100 very quickly.

Starting point is 01:18:56 But let me tell you what else happens with those stories. They also can go from 100 to zero in no time. Then you've got to find the next story, and the next story, and the next story. And then there are certain stories you pick that are forever. This game is a very different game and if you're going to be around for a while, I mean even right now in Iran, hangings are still going on in Iran. You think Iran is an ally? No.

Starting point is 01:19:17 You think Iran is an ally on what they're doing? You think Iran right there, somebody does something, oh we're pro-woman, really go be pro-woman in Iran, see what they're doing. Go ahead, go be pro-woman in Iran, see what they're doing. Go ahead, go be pro-woman in Iran, see what they're doing. So the only slippery slope here when you play games is you're pushing people away from somewhere, they're going to go somewhere else. And if they go somewhere else, that may not be a place that's going to support the vision that you have

Starting point is 01:19:45 for America. Because right now, let's just say Kamala's president. How bad do you think that is if Kamala becomes president? For the country, I think it's absolutely horrible. Are we going to get over it, or you think it's zero to ten, it's ten, it's very bad? I think it'll be an eight, but I think everything that's been happening for the past four years is going to be multiplied and magnified because she's actually there. She can be a horrible president.

Starting point is 01:20:08 Do you think she can be a two-term? Absolutely. Do you think in the next seat they can flip two more seats in the Supreme Court and one of them being—do you think we can now go back to 5-4 to the left? I think so. Okay. How bad is that for you? Horrible.

Starting point is 01:20:21 Okay then. That's what's happening. That's what's happening. That's what's happening. So the point is, these arguments being made is fracturing and fragmenting the political party. And by the way, just right now, 87 executions in one day. 87 executions in one day, Iran. Fantastic, just a regular day, right? Not just a great stuff, you know? Yeah, but Iran is Israel's enemy. So if Israel's your enemy, you're for Iran.

Starting point is 01:20:56 You have to understand, it's not a, I don't know how to describe, for people like Paul, you're just, trust me me if you only really knew what I thought on the inside. Trust me, I lived in Iran and I know what it is to do business with others. I've been around, I've been around to see what's going on with all this other stuff. This is not like a hypothetical that we're talking about here. But push Israel as much as you want.

Starting point is 01:21:22 You're only strengthening Iran. Keep doing it. Push Israel all you want. You're only strengthening Iran. Keep doing it. Push Israel all you want. You're only strengthening Iran. You don't have to. You know how you work at an environment. Does everybody in this office, is everybody at the line holding by team and attend to you, relationship-wise? Meaning?

Starting point is 01:21:40 No. Meaning, 100% of people you love and you hang out with? No. You get along with most. I get along with people you love and you hang out with? No. No. You get along with most. I get along with everybody. I don't hang out with everybody. But are there certain people you tolerate?

Starting point is 01:21:51 Yes. Okay. In what environment do you not have to do that? So what's the solution? Think about it. So let's actually go there. Is it good for the people you tolerate for you to leave lying holding and say, screw it?

Starting point is 01:22:03 Because I can't tolerate these two people, I'm going to leave it and I'm going to do it. Because the opportunity is bigger than the two people you have to tolerate. Insurance industry, finance, business, how many people you think we have to tolerate over the years? People that I knew behind my back, you know how Tom knows this, you know how many people, there's a lady right now, you know how many times behind my back she said so many things about me? And you knew it. Oh, till today she does it and she was at my conference. And I know it.

Starting point is 01:22:30 She's not part of my company, but she's part of some of the people that, do you know till today I know it? And guess what? You see her, you're like, hi. How you doing? How you doing? Why though? Why do you have to do that? Because that's part of being in business. You're not going to get along with everybody. I got you. So in this sense, when it comes to Iran or Muslims and Israel and Jewish people, I'm sorry, just Israel in general. And I don't want to say lesser of the two evils, but in this game that we're playing, you're leaning towards the side. Because one side is doing horrible stuff, the other side's doing horrible stuff. Are you going with the side that's more beneficial because the other side is more evil? You know what it is, Candice?

Starting point is 01:23:10 Guess what? Why don't she run in 2028 and her number one thing should be get rid of AIPAC and Israel lobby? See what it does. Good luck. No, no, what I'm saying is run on that. I'm actually not saying good luck. I'm not, he's saying good luck.

Starting point is 01:23:21 I'm saying good luck. No, what he's saying is good luck, you win. What I'm saying is go see how many more people are for that. And that's America. Go prove your argument. Get support. And run on that. Because when you run on, when you're campaigning, a president chooses a handful of things to

Starting point is 01:23:39 campaign on. You want Trump's top five to be Israel? No. By the way, every single president since Nixon days had a hard time negotiating with Israel. Every single one of them. And you know why it was? Half the battle for them was when Kissinger and Ford were pissed off, and they came out with a plan, and they, what do you call it, what is it like, ah. They brushed them off?

Starting point is 01:24:04 Congress passed it. But the House wasn't going. They brush them off? Congress passed it. But the House wasn't gonna do it. Yeah, they passed it. Because Israel, the lobbyists, they had won over so many people in Congress that they were gonna go that way because that's where the money was coming from. You know the Bowman guy that got replaced? And who's the other guy, Ilhan Omar?

Starting point is 01:24:21 No, no, Corey. Corey Bush. Corey Bush, guess who got rid of those two guys? APAC. Do you want them in there or do you want them out? I want them out. Yeah, so it's like a catch-22. APAC helped you. Of course. This is such a like a, it's such a comp- Tom, you look like you want to say something. Tom, please. No, no, I'm sitting here listening and and what people have to understand, and I'm going to step away from all the inflammatory stuff.

Starting point is 01:24:49 One point, I'm not going to comment on that. What Pat just said is very important. Nixon Kissinger, Ford Kissinger, Carter's big new Brzezinski, I think. No, no, no, no, Cyrus Vance. And you go through all the secretary of states and the president's, they're trying to negotiate certain things up here and they effectively have term limits, eight years, right? Well, it's like what Nancy Pelosi said about W. W may be here for eight years, we'll be here a lot longer.

Starting point is 01:25:20 We can manage it manage it Israel functions almost like a a Senior senator they are and what does the senior senator do? I'll give you the bridge deal I'll give you the farm deal you got my vote But hey, I need you on the pharma deal and I need you on the crime bill and it goes back and forth like that That's what Israel does in our own Senate and Congress. So when they're out there at the foreign policy level trying to do it, Israel is responding the same way that Nancy Pelosi responded to W. Don't worry about it. We can we can maneuver around this because we've got other things in play. We'll get the bill we want, we'll

Starting point is 01:26:04 get the defense spending we want, we'll get the foreign aid package we want. That's the way the game is played. So I'm not going to comment on all the other things. What it is, is they have become an incredibly effective country that operates even better than some of the biggest lobbyists that we have in our own government. And you sit back and you look at it and you say, you don't have to like it, but that's the game. That's actually the political game. That's the way the game is played. And they're just playing it superbly well to get what they want.

Starting point is 01:26:36 And the difference between big pharma, which is practically a country in Israel, is at the base level, not a lot but they're getting they're getting what they want and what they feel their interests are but are we supposed to let them get away with murder just because the enemy is way worse at doing murder that's my point. Hang on hang on hang on back off. You're saying yes? No that's ridiculous. Were you talking about Israel or Big Pharma? Yeah, both no no, but you see the point. Yeah, I know I got you yeah exactly Now you guys can go what you're failing to understand, please please tell me And you just think of this in a non-emotional

Starting point is 01:27:17 Reacted like I'm in love with Candice Owens and everything she says I love with the guy Jess. I'm just saying okay There's no perfect country on earth, bro. I know that. Do you though? Yeah, I just I criticized Bush while I was in the military. That's why I left the military. So continue. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:27:33 So you've been critical of your own government. Thousand percent. You're critical of Kamala Harris, you're a criminal of Biden, you've even been critical of Trump. Thank you. That's how this works. You know, I said that, you know, everyone has to choose their enemies wisely. And I asked you, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Starting point is 01:27:50 You got it right this time. I love you. I was messing with you. So you have to put every country on a one through 10 scale. The countries that you're most aligned with are eights, nines and tens. I would argue there's probably not a 10 out there that knows every single one of our secrets. But in the seven, eight 789 camp are your allies. These are your NATO partners.

Starting point is 01:28:09 This is Israel. This is Japan. This is South Korea. Every single one of these countries we've had issues with. We've gone to war with Germany and now they're our ally. We've gone to war with Japan. We've gone to war with Italy. So at some point if everything we do is, yeah, but the Nazis,

Starting point is 01:28:25 oh my, Pearl Harbor, it's like, you're never going to get ahead. So you want to do that. Oh my God, Candace once told me about USS Liberty. I get it. No, she didn't. Me and Tom had that. Awesome. You found out for yourself. But none of this is new. The JFK conspiracies, the Bolshevik revolution thing. Israel has been dealing with this forever. You think Israel is just this perfect country that is innocent, that has never done anything wrong? No. Have they held accountable for any of it?

Starting point is 01:28:52 Go ahead. Are you the guy? No, I'm not. Okay, but hold on. You just proved my point. Hold on, Adam. You just proved my point. You don't have a point.

Starting point is 01:29:00 USS Liberty, USS Liberty, dancing Israelis, cheering, cheering that the fucking towers were coming down, cheering, they all were part of intelligence. No, no, because you're full of shit, Adam. No, no, no, because you love Israel. You can't, Adam, they can do whatever they want. They can do whatever they want. They are a better ally than enemy. But you're saying they can get away with murder, Adam,

Starting point is 01:29:21 because we're supposed to forget about it. That's not what I'm saying. That's horse shit. Who has done worse things to America? Listen for a second. Don't be emotional. No, how am I not gonna be a motion? Who has attacked America worse in the last hundred years? Germany or Israel? Germany or Israel? Yeah, who's had more deaths of Americans?

Starting point is 01:29:44 Germany or Israel? This isn't a had more deaths of Americans? Germany or Israel? This isn't a trick question. This isn't tough, bro. Killing Americans? Yes, killing Americans. In war. In a war. Germany.

Starting point is 01:29:55 Okay, great. Who's killed more Americans? Japan or Israel? Japan. Okay, so why aren't you yelling and bitching about Japan or Germany? Because they're not our freaking our because because they're because why because their prime minister doesn't come to congress and everybody stands up and worships him like he's Jesus Christ because they know who the guy in charge is Adam. They're not our hold on are they bigger allies do we give

Starting point is 01:30:20 them as much money as we give to Israel and And they can do whatever they want. And you're failing to go back to what I said about Candace. You're not an anti-Semite. You don't hate Jews because you're criticizing Israel. And I get it. The Muslim world, the Muslim world in Europe is doing what they're doing. I get it. I get it. But with zero accountability, that means, Adam, in a hundred years from now, we're going

Starting point is 01:30:42 to go, well, guess what? They did it. And who cares? Because they're our our allies so they could get away with murder So there's there's dozens of wars going on all around the world. Yes. Why aren't you talking about? Dollars my tax dollars are going to what's happening over there in Gaza Adam And if you've been keeping toll of the death count of children and everything that sits on my mind because at what point is that gonna stop? So what is that gonna end? What other? Again, wait, let me guess because I said that I support Hamas and I hate Jews

Starting point is 01:31:13 I don't want to see any deaths of any more man, but the numbers are staggering in the other way When is that gonna stop? Good luck in this position? You're taking because all you're doing is aligning yourself with Iran Oh here it is. See and that's it because you always have to have to take a side. Adam, how about this? America, I don't know how hard this is to understand. I am us first. I don't give a shit about Bibi Netanyahu. I don't give a shit about Germany. I don't care about France. I don't care about anybody but the United States of America first. Once we're secure, then we can go talk to other people. Then Vinny, unfortunately, you're a child. Because every grown up country has allies and trade partners.

Starting point is 01:31:51 I never said allies. Adam, once you served in the military, then you could talk all this shit to me about being a child. How do you process this exchange? So let me just say one thing. How do you process this? Give me a second. How do you process this exchange?

Starting point is 01:32:03 Going back and forth. Between Adam and Vinny, how do you process this exchange? Going back and forth? Between Adam and Vinny, how do you process it? Vinny is taking a very passionate America first position, which I share. And Vinny is asking for accountability for modern day things that are, when I say modern day, things that are happening right now, things that are going on right now.

Starting point is 01:32:20 And I thought it was a little disingenuous for Adam to kind of go back. Well, you go back to 100 years, who's killed more? Well, let's go back to a hundred years and let's make the Brits the ones right you go back to revolutionary war Which I think is a little ridiculous. Honestly, you you have to look at life as it is What is going on right now and what he's asking for? He's asking for Accountability as anybody held Israel accountable. He's asking a question and while he's putting it on top of I can be America first and be very passionately America first and also recognize Israel as a friend. Question for you.

Starting point is 01:32:53 Why hasn't Israel held accountable? I think that well, let's I think you could look around the globe in terms of diplomacy. Why is any country not held accountable? Because they skillfully prevent themselves from being held accountable and they make friends and do things in certain ways so that they'll say, look, look, you know, I know you borrowed my car and you did a lot of damage to it, but I really need your help at school because we're both on the same football team. I'm gonna overlook the car and we got to be teammates over here. That's how diplomacy works. Things get over, not overlooked, but things do not get prosecuted or things do

Starting point is 01:33:34 not get held out because there's other things going on that people think are greater. That's how they either have something on you or you agree that going after this over here is bigger. So what do you think is a likelihood, if you were somebody right now that is consulting for Vinny, Vinny wants to run for office, okay, and he wants to win, would you advise him that if the idea is to win, the concept of going after Israel and hold them accountable is a winning formula as a number one? Some of the greatest political consultants in history, Vinny, would tell you this. Vinny, what's your platform?

Starting point is 01:34:15 Not five, not three, but you need two. Two core things are your platform. You're going to list five, but two are really going to matter to you. Maybe one of them is America first. Now then, once we have that, Vinny, we're going to have what is the core statement for your campaign, and then we have what's called the big tent. And the big tent- Tom, don't just talk to me. I'm asking you, like, I'm asking, would you advise Israel being held accountable as a number one or a number two?

Starting point is 01:34:40 No, I wouldn't put that in the platform and in the name of the- Why wouldn't you? or number two? No, I wouldn't put that in the platform and in the name of the bigs. Why wouldn't you? Because you're going to get, you're not going to win the voters you need to win. And it doesn't mean you step away from defending America first. But if you take that other position, your big tent falls apart. So then the question becomes, if since Nixon Kissinger, since you can even go John F. Kennedy, you can go to Carter, you can go to all these guys. Kennedy and Robert McFarlane.

Starting point is 01:35:09 If none of these guys have ever been able to negotiate favorable terms for the U.S., why do you think that is? Because either Israel has got things on us and we are not without sin, or they have been able to lobby successfully to talk us out of it. It's one of the two. Okay, so which one do you think it's more? I think there's probably a little bit more chess game on some of the stuff we've done CIA around the world, and they've got that, and they're also just incredibly schoolful, omnipresent lobbyists.

Starting point is 01:35:39 So they probably also have some dirt on US to say, hey, if you do this, guess what? Like the whole thing with Epstein when his brother came over, and by the time he walked away, I was convinced both he and his brother were part of Mossad. And if I have to put money on the fact that Epstein has a lot of dirt on God knows how many people as a Mossad agent and sending those assets back to Israel, how valuable would that be? Very valuable. So I'll make my answer shorter because you're asking me to and I will. It's either dirt or you've got leverage of mutual interest. Okay, but stay on this here. Let's stay on this here. Say we have dirt, okay? By the way, do you believe most Jews are bad people? No. Okay. Do you link, when you think about terrorism, okay, when you think about terrorism, what

Starting point is 01:36:33 do you think about when the word terrorist comes up? I think about people using violence against citizens to influence other governments. Okay. So let's go back to this whole concept with you, it's Vinny, both of you guys, you and Tom. So I want you to, let's keep going through this, Tom's gonna give the history of it and then we can give the opinion. So if you were to, if let's just say everything you said is accurate. Let's say we find that it's a hundred percent, you know, the Epstein. We can say right now 70% had happened, let's say it's a hundred percent. Let's say it's 100%.

Starting point is 01:37:05 Let's say we get intel from somebody on the inside that's a die-hard fan of the podcast and he sends us an email and says, no guys, this is not a maybe. This is 100%. Okay? That's what Mossad does. That's what Israel does. That's when Net Yahu came, the standing ovation for him was bigger than anybody in the history of American politics that got up in front of the stage.

Starting point is 01:37:27 And by the way, the standing ovation was bigger than Zelensky when he came here and gave a talk. A lot of people boycotted Zelensky, not Net Yahoo. So if all of that is true, how do you fight against it? How do I fight against the guy that's got 1% more dirt on me so that he gets what he wants and we're neutral? You're an outsider. You're a journalist.

Starting point is 01:37:49 You're a podcaster. You're an influencer. How do you fight against it if that's what they've done? If that's what they've done, and that's the intel that they have on so many powerful people in Pennsylvania, in D.C., in our Congress, if they have that kind of power against many billionaires, many people at the top that are on the Forbes 400 list of wealth, how do you fight against it? There's one way, and that way is not a short-term way, because you've got all these people are

Starting point is 01:38:24 compromised and they're standing there, because you got all these people are compromised, and they're standing there, and you can't just erase them. You have to go start a program to get more dirt on the other guy, or your guys, you have to clean up what you're doing. And it takes a long time. But you're talking about decades of dirt

Starting point is 01:38:41 on hundreds of people. That's exactly right. How do you fight, so for example, they- I gotta have dirt on you of people. That's exactly right. How do you fight it? So for example Dave Smith. I got to have dirt on you so that neutralizes. Say listen, you may, okay, okay, you're going to bring that up? I'm going to bring these five up.

Starting point is 01:38:52 Now it's a tie game. Which way are we going here? That's where you have to go. I get that. But you, like I listened to Dave and he's very eloquent on the way he gives his argument, right? You go through some of these guys when you're listening to their arguments. Dave who?

Starting point is 01:39:03 Dave Smith. So how do you, how do you go? Against that the decades of Intel the decades of Intel by Massad bless you Let's the decades of collaboration between CIA and Massad. How do you go against that? It's very very difficult It's like it's like looking at the pharma lobby and saying that you have got decades now of legislation and an entrenched corrupt system of donations for campaigns and it's like it's like in the US oh be easy

Starting point is 01:39:33 we'll just do like New Zealand does and well by the way what's what's weird is here's what's weird the fact that this conversation is being had I I love the fact that the debates being had and the conversations being had, I love the fact that the debate is being had and the conversation is being had because it's educating a lot of people. Concerning, Rob, can you put up Bassem Youssef? Bassem Youssef, Vinny, you showed this as his last tweet before he got... Yesterday his account was suspended off of Twitter and this was an... He said...

Starting point is 01:40:01 Antisemism was an accusation that used to freeze the blood on people's veins. I see many people now realizing that how this fear tactic is used to shut down conversations and scare people. It's been overused and abused in order to intimidate people. Are you still scared to be called an anti-semite by those Zionists? Vote and tell me in the comments, no, I don't give a shit anymore or yes, I'm still scared. Do you think that's, I don't know if this was it, but that was the last thing that he tweeted, the last thing that he posted, his account got suspended. Meanwhile, I mean, Candace was on-

Starting point is 01:40:31 The Twitter that must comment on the fact that the account got suspended. I don't know, but I know it was taken down. Okay. So that's nothing wild to be taken down. You didn't say anything to be taken down. Zero, which is weird. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, Bassem's been going around for a while.

Starting point is 01:40:46 And if there's anybody that the anti-Israel community that is really calling out what they've done should be very supportive of, it should be Elon Musk. Because if there's no Elon Musk, you ain't having this conversation, by the way. Never. No, you're not having this conversation. Adam.

Starting point is 01:41:02 Can I just say one thing? You can pull up the tweet by Candace Owen's father-in-law, just to kind of give some context. His name is Lord Michael Farmer. Very interesting what he had to say about this. Everything that he's basically been sort of diagnosing with whatever Candace is doing, it's while you find that. So the reality is this, you know, you asked is, is what a you can criticize Israel without being anti-Semitic. Okay, cool. So you don't, you not agree with that? You said that like, but that's, but that's not actually what happens. Yes, it is exactly. What did you say by Michael? What did he say? What do you want to tell

Starting point is 01:41:43 us? This is Candace Owens' father-in-law. If you can punch in a little bit, in view of public comments from a very high profile member of my family, aka Candice, I want to put my own views on anti-Semitism and Israel's current military campaign in Gaza on public record. Again, this is her father-in-law. Do you have the full scope of it? A recent letter from international military leaders said that the Israeli defense forces were acting in a high, accountable way in an extremely complex and difficult environment.

Starting point is 01:42:11 Is that the one you're talking about? We cannot forget that they have been forced to prosecute this war. As a teenager growing up in the wake of World War II, I became very aware of the cruelty melted out before and during that conflict against Jewish people because they were Jewish. I found it impossible to comprehend how humans could intentionally be as cruel as possible to the others. While the general opinion in Britain was that I would never happen here, even though I thought, really? It seemed it could happen anywhere.

Starting point is 01:42:36 Such sadism lay dominant in the hearts of everyone. And he goes on to basically lay his case as why as a young man, he started basically thinking a certain way. I often experienced kindness and thoughtfulness from Jewish friends, and at the time I had a few close relationships. I became a Christian in my mid-30s and became aware of the latent rebellion in my own heart against my Creator. The Bible says we all need to Savior because it falls short of goodness and aspire, expect

Starting point is 01:43:02 those from others." He then goes on and continues, we aspire goodness and we're made in the God's images. And he basically says, you know, basically glory to God. I recently visited Israel and a member of the UK Israel support group that I'm very aware of the human heart that has one group and acts with an aggressor who needs to be rebelled, which he's talking about Hamas, which he basically labels a death cult. Israel is a rare example of a democracy in the Middle East, a liberal state governed

Starting point is 01:43:32 by the rule of law. Of course, it has the right to defend itself, its citizens when murderously attacked on its soil and one of the cruelest and most callous pogroms in history, especially against a group who continues to vow to kill Israel and eliminate them from the map. We cannot forget the large number of innocent hostages that were taken. Many of them have died and many of them are still missing. Israel faces an existential threat as Hamas, the terrorist organization, he stated their intentions to destroy Israel. So this is Candace Owen's father. So it seems to me that Thanksgiving dinner, if they have one this year, is going to be a little awkward.

Starting point is 01:44:09 But I actually have hope for Candice. I think there's nothing that can't be undone. So you ask, you can criticize Israel without being anti-Semitic. Okay, I'm with you on that. I criticize George W. Bush. I criticize Kamala. Like I get it. But what happens is you go from being anti-Israel and there's a slippery slope, bro.

Starting point is 01:44:32 All of a sudden you end up being anti-Zionist and then you end up being anti-Jewish and then you end up being like, well, let's kill the Jews. And that's how you end up with Dan Bilzerian basically saying, yeah, they're, they're, they bring nothing to the table. They're a pariah. We should eliminate them. That's not exactly being critical of Bibi Netanyahu, who by the way, speaking of critical Bibi Netanyahu, we talked about this the other day, his approval ratings in Israel are a whopping 32%. So you can be critical of the government all you want. No problem. I do that all the time. Oh good.

Starting point is 01:45:05 But you know, you're basically saying, well, Candace is criticizing the government and there it is 32%. But she's not criticizing Jews. All right. What's this story? What's this? She declared, I want to be clear. If anything happens to me, blame the Zionists, like the thousand percent blame the Zionists making it clear. So what does she got murdered if she died today? Who do you think killed her a random act of violence? She didn't die today I'm just saying she's just saying if anything because people were messaging her saying yo You better be careful because people like you that are saying the shit that you're saying get killed. Yeah, that's what she's saying So I don't have them that slippery slope from from criticizing Israel's government

Starting point is 01:45:45 I don't know how that I would never that slope to get the high Jews. You wouldn't know but Dan Bilzerian I don't think I don't think Dan Bilzerian hates Jews. I think Dan Bilzerian doesn't like Seen what were the exact words he said about Israel? Israel is not a Jewish person. He doesn't like Israel. Adam, that's like saying, I don't like America. Does that mean you- That the world's a better place without Israel on the map. As a country, but does that mean he hates Jewish people?

Starting point is 01:46:15 What does that mean? What happens to the 10 million people that are living in Israel when they're eliminated? He didn't say this, he said kill them. What do you think happens to these people? Take them off the map. Is the world a better place? I'm asking you, do you think the world's a better place without Israel on the map? I mean, at this point, no. We have to have them there at this point. At what point would it be good? I'm just saying from when was the Balfour

Starting point is 01:46:39 Declaration, when was Israel created? 1948? Well, the Balfour Declaration was after World War I in 1917 and then Israel was given a state in 1948. By the way, when Israel became a state, you think they just started handing out flowers and bouquets to everyone around? They've been to war with all their Middle Eastern allies. Here's something you need to consider. You know, I said you have allies, you have partnerships, you have trade agreements, you have alliances. Do you realize how many alliances and trade agreements Israel has basically put together with the Arab world? The UAE, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Sudan, Morocco. So you have countries around the Middle East that at one point were a war with Israel, you're like, look, bro, like, why are we fighting these guys?

Starting point is 01:47:28 Let's actually make peace with these people. And let's see what we can do. And there's a lot of people think that the reason that October 7th has happened is because Trump, who started the Abraham Accords, you're a Trump guy, yes, you're America first guy, yes. Trump is the one that moved the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. There's a lot of people to think that they were this close to having a deal with Saudi Arabia and MBS, and that all basically spiraled after October 7th.

Starting point is 01:47:55 So why would all these Muslim countries, who were formerly at war with Israel, start alliances with them? Because they recognize one thing. They might not love Israel, they might not love Bibi Netanyahu, because they recognize one thing. They might not love Israel. They might not love Bibi Netanyahu, but they recognize what you fail to recognize and what a lot of people fail to recognize because if you don't make friends with them, that means you're on the side of the Islamic Republic of Iran. And what happens is they recognize that Iran is the biggest threat in the region to the two things that every country wants, peace and prosperity. So if you look at what's happening in Saudi and they're becoming entering

Starting point is 01:48:28 modernity, if you look at what's happening in UAE, if you look what happened in Qatar, if you look what's happening in Kuwait, all these countries are basically like, yeah, we're done attacking these people. They basically are the same people that realize, you know what? Trump wasn't really the problem. It was actually the deep state. So we're going to align with Trump, even though they thought that Trump wasn't really the problem. It was actually the deep state. So we're going to align with Trump, even though they thought that Trump was the enemy for

Starting point is 01:48:48 years. So you're going to go through pretzels, trying to equivocate, well, I can do this and this. All you're going to do is end up in a corner where it's like, do I pick the allies I have problems with? Or do I pick the enemies that are literally shouting death to America? It's not going to work. Rob, can you pull up? So how do you feel about Trump's recent positioning and alignment with Israel? I think

Starting point is 01:49:07 I don't know. I'm kind of indifferent because it's kind of weird I just saw the other day Rob could probably find that he was speaking somewhere and there was three American flags on one side and Then three Israeli flags on the other side and I don't know what has happened is really flagged It's really flags. Yeah, like three three and three Let's see and it was kind and and I have have, because this, he wasn't doing this in 2016, correct? There was, press play rap. Press play. Play. Tiny little spot compared to these giant land masses.

Starting point is 01:49:37 Israel is a tiny little spot compared to these giant land masses. It's really a tiny spot. I actually said, is there any way of getting more? It's so tiny. Israel is- Well, can I say something about this? Unless he's speaking in front of AIPAC or in Israel, I'm actually not a fan of this. I'm with you. Because despite all the arguments we've had, I'm an American. I believe in America first. I don't believe in America only, and we can only take care of our homeland.

Starting point is 01:50:06 No, we have problems abroad, clearly. Hang on. So I don't know where the speech was. I respect the hell out of you, Adam, for saying that. Any United States past, present, anybody speaking should only have the American flag behind you, period. Our church has an Israeli flag in the front. The other day I was like, I'm like, wait,

Starting point is 01:50:25 what? What about the Palestinian? Like there's Palestinian good people. Yeah, Hamas is, you know, doing what they're doing. But what about Palestine? Anyway, when I see something like this, I almost feel, I mean, I'm not a fan. I'm going to be honest with you. I almost feel, Pat, like 2020, what happened? He got cheated. They cheated. He lost COVID, blah, blah. I think this alliance is almost like, hey, listen, you buddy with us and we won't let what happened in 2020 happen in 2024. I think that's an alliance that he's making. What does it say? What's the quote? If you hate America, what does it say? If you hate America, if you want to eliminate Israel, then we don't want you in our country. What

Starting point is 01:51:01 do you think about him saying that? I mean, if you want to eliminate- I guess Dan Bilzerian needs to leave. Listen, and by the way, I don't know Dan Bilzerian's exact what he's talking about if he's saying disperse... You didn't watch the interview with Pat? No, I watched it, but when he says Israel, the country, the world would be able to replace without Israel, do you think that he thinks right now, nuke it and get rid of everybody or break it up as a country and get everybody out of there?

Starting point is 01:51:25 What? What do you really think he does? It even make a difference. Hold on. Basically, what he's saying is all that everything that's going on there, this democracy called Israel with all those Jews. But yeah, we don't even want that on earth anymore. To go to your thing, I don't think he thinks what you're thinking.

Starting point is 01:51:39 I'm not a fan of this at all. Why are you apologizing for Dan Bilzerian? I'm not apologizing for anybody. He's his own grown man. You could have that conversation with him. What I'm saying is I don't like that. That he wants to play hide and seek with the Jews? 10 million of them?

Starting point is 01:51:53 You think? Dan Bilzerian right now, with that comment, meant go and blow it up and kill all the people that are there, the innocent, everybody, women, everybody. I actually literally think that's what he meant. I don't think so. He said the world would be a better place without Israel if England didn't give Israel that land They gave it to him and do what they did to the Palestinians. He's saying the world would be a better place

Starting point is 01:52:12 He's not saying kill them. Okay, he's saying if that's the case. I'm sorry. I have to just stop you You're acting like Israel's the biggest problem. I didn't know you're putting words. Okay, you're acting like that I'm not a reason that Afghanistan Lebanon Syria. Yeah, you're putting words on you're acting like that reason that Afghanistan, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, half the countries are falling apart. Going back to my point, why are we talking about Israel? Why is Candace talking about Israel? Why is Israel the big talk of the town for the past? What? When was October 7th? Since October 7th, that's all people. But that's the main event is that. And why Adam? And we've asked this. Anti-Semitic people like them keep talking about Israel.

Starting point is 01:52:47 No, ready for this? No, because I've asked this a bunch of times and Steve Kirby said it. Because remember, 9-11 happened how long ago? How long ago? 23 years ago. 23 years ago. To this day, real people, real people that are awake know what happened on 9-11, who was really in charge and what happened and how they set it up. You're the real people that are awake know what happened on 9-eleven who was really in charge and what happened and how they set it

Starting point is 01:53:06 On and it you're the real people. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what happened on 9-eleven, but not our actual CIA Adam you trust the government you go ahead and do that. I'm gonna trust Vinnie Shit that you didn't know cuz I was in during 9-eleven and I knew remember when Candice Owens hitched her entire career To the fact that Emmanuel Macron's wife was a man. That's why I still believe that I believe it Okay, yeah, cuz they haven't proved me wrong number two so that 9-eleven happened, and we still don't have the answers, okay? October 7 happened the biggest failure of the biggest security freaking a spot you've been to Israel for six hours They did what they went where's the accountability of what when are we gonna find out what happened Adam? We're ready what 30 years from now. We're gonna go actually Benjamin nine. Yahoo. Yeah, they knew and they turned the other cheek

Starting point is 01:53:56 What if you found out? Back to question for you. Yeah, How do you feel about Trump right now? I'm not, that, when people go, oh, you're just a loyalist, I don't like the border situation, and I don't like that. What can he do to lose your vote? I mean, he's not, the other option is Kamala Harris, maybe I'm voting for Donald Trump no matter what.

Starting point is 01:54:20 There's no, he's not gonna lose my vote. So he can't do anything to lose your vote. Well, guess what? If he was on Epstein's Island and was with the child, yes, I would not vote to lose my vote. So he can't do anything to lose your vote? Well, guess what? If he was on Epstein's Island and was with the child, yes, I would not vote for him. Period. If he was a Bill Clinton, if he had the record that Bill Clinton had, be do alat, done deal. You'd vote for Kamala then? No, I wouldn't.

Starting point is 01:54:35 I would sit it out. Period. Okay. So, but in regards to this decision that he's making with Israel is not at the same level for you as where it would cause you to not want to vote for the guy. Yeah. Because the other policies I love.

Starting point is 01:54:50 So let me ask you, do you think all of these things that are going on right now, what is your top issue in your life right now politically? What's your number? Rank your top issues. My top issues right now, the border is one of the main ones okay so I got illegal illegals are coming in an Alabama PB they just found in Alabama 3200 illegal non-citizens registered to vote okay what's your second um number two economy what's three does inflation kind of go into that as well? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:55:27 Secure and Pat, on top of that, I'll put the economy inflation and then security with what's gonna happen because I know something bad is coming. Security? Yes. Okay, what else? The protection of the children. Everything that they're doing with the kids. Pedophilia. Open board, the border kind of goes to that I mean those are my top four top four top five so so where does Israel lie in your top ten list? Probably Lord in the past five six seven in a five six seven Yeah, okay, I don't want them to get us into a freaking crazy war that is an intentional trying to get us into war Okay, do you think they could have done that in 2016, 2017, 18, 1920? Meaning what?

Starting point is 01:56:11 Could Israel have done that to get US into a war in 2016 through 2020? I mean there wasn't an event like October 7th. Yeah, but could they have if they really wanted to fabricate a story to get us into war? Yeah, yeah, or like a false flag something. Did that happen? No. Okay, so what's above for you? a story to get us into war? Yeah, yeah, or like a false flag, something. Did it happen? No. Okay.

Starting point is 01:56:26 So what's above for you? Trump winning or Israel being held accountable? For right now the way that the world's going, Trump has to win. That's my number one. That's the part about when, you know, do you think Candice and all this stuff that's going on, Dan, Tate doesn't live here, Tate lives in Romania. Okay, so Tate, US, of course, you know, they want Trump to be the president.

Starting point is 01:56:51 Tate's a Trump guy, he's publicly said it. Do you think all of that helps Trump's case or hurts Trump's case? Hurts Trump's case. How do you feel about that? Um, not, not a big fan of it, but at the same token, at the same time, she's chosen her enemy. It's a, it's a big freaking enemy. I know you say, you know, choose them wisely, but I think there's, there's something deeper that she has a calling for that she's going to go with it.

Starting point is 01:57:13 And how much of it do you think it's her? How much of it do you think is the following up with a daily wire? I think the daily wire situation sparked the fire in her that's taken off and it's way past that it's way Ben Shapiro So far back in her in her rear view. It's insane. It's like now it's a bigger issue Now he set the flame and now it's a full-on Fire line like it's it's insane. Do you think America needs that today? What that just going through that tall Israel thing today? I mean Do we need it? I think we do need it whole Israel thing today. I mean, do we need it? I think we do need it.

Starting point is 01:57:48 Okay. I think we have to have- How do you think the left feels about it today? Of course, anything that's having us fighting with each other is obviously huge. Got it. So the left's going to use this. Big time. And that's why they wrote an article titled what? Far-right influencers talking about guys like you turn against Trump campaign.

Starting point is 01:58:10 And that's a WAPO story. Who does that help? The left, obviously. Who does that hurt? The right, Trump. So when November 5th comes and Kamala's president, remember these days. Just letting you know, when November 5th comes and all of these guys, when you're, you're, you're, and by the way, I, trust me, you're going to get swamped with

Starting point is 01:58:33 support and messages today. You're going to be swamped with messages of support today. Swamped. Vinny, you're the only guy, you're this and you're that and you're this and you're that. Great. When that happens, they're not sitting there matching your number one, which your number one is Trump winning. Their number one is their hate and dislike for Israel. That's their number one. You have to kind of pick and choose which one's going to be your number one. If your number one is America first, this isn't America first. That's not an America first position you're making.

Starting point is 01:59:14 Everybody has their own individual choices that they make, but your choices will have a direct impact, specifically during a time like this. If you think, like if you think this is a truly important time, if in the back of your mind you're like, nah, Kamala Winnick's not that big of a deal, keep doing what you're doing. Light it up. But if you don't, come November 5th,

Starting point is 01:59:40 while we're campaigning, and you sit there like, record's been broken, officially, first female African American president applaud because you supported that, right? And in your indirect way, you help them. That's the part where the left is united and that's the part where the right is fragmented. The right is fragmented.

Starting point is 02:00:08 And why is the right fragmented? Ego, pride, I'm right, I know what I'm talking about, da da da da, da da da da, da da da. And by the way, for the audience that watches this, and you know, PBD Podcast, we started this, we're bringing a few different people. So you're going to see the home team rotating and having different people come here and we'll do this. And you're going to see a lot more. Like last week, what I was most excited about is the unusual suspect with Adam, Tom and

Starting point is 02:00:34 Vinny, which crushed it. Which by the way, if you guys haven't supported Unusual Rob, if you can put that up there, go support that podcast, Unusual Suspect. I bought that domain some six years ago because I knew one day that Unusual Suspect Podcast was going to be a big podcast. Go subscribe to those guys. If you like what just happened right now, go to Unusual Suspect. Rob, put the link below so people can subscribe.

Starting point is 02:00:56 They're at 53,000. Let's see if we can put them over 60,000. Rob, can you put that link? Put it in the chat. Just do a copy paste, put it below. But here's what you're going to see. We here are comfortable having these conversations. This is a regular day for me.

Starting point is 02:01:13 We can have it in our board meeting. For anybody that's worked with me for as long as they have, they know I'm very comfortable having any kind of conversations. It doesn't matter what it is, we'll have it. But the bigger picture we have to ask ourselves is, some of you are watching this, your number one enemy is Israel. You can't stand Israel. I respect it.

Starting point is 02:01:34 Some of you guys are watching this, your number one enemy is Trump. Totally get it. It's your deal. Some of you are watching this, your number one enemy is Kamala. Some of you guys can't stand my position. Some of you guys can't stand my position. Some of you guys can't stand the fact that I still have Adam here. Like I can't believe you haven't fired Adam yet. Why didn't you fire Adam three years ago, four years ago, two years ago?

Starting point is 02:01:53 I'm here to announce we're doing it today. No, I'm just kidding with you. Some of you guys have been waiting for that for a while. But you know what I like? I like the discourse. I like the discourse, I like the conversation, but we have to always be reminded what's your number one. And your decision that you're making in the communities that you're getting linked to,

Starting point is 02:02:12 is it helping you advance your number one, or is it hurting you? It's that simple. This business is a very simple game that you're getting into, but where we are right now, I think we're facing a very interesting time politically. Very. Because on one end, guys are sitting there thinking no matter what, you know, Trump's going to win and it's done and all this other stuff. Nope.

Starting point is 02:02:38 It's officially turned. She hasn't even spoken yet. And she's officially the lead dog in Vegas, just so you know that. She hasn't even spoken yet. That conversation hasn't even spoken yet that conversation hasn't even happened yet she hasn't even given the speech yet and you don't even know what other celebrities gonna be speaking the next couple days that Steve Kerr who's gonna come tomorrow or the next day we don't know yet so stay tuned a lot of weird interesting things are gonna happen and yes oh my god how can you see her winning there's no way Pat

Starting point is 02:03:03 all this other stuff just wait you'll see her winning? There's no way, Pat. All this other stuff. Just wait. You'll see. You'll see what's going to happen next 76 days, which I think is the exact amount of days that are left till that date. But either way, for everybody that watches this and you tolerate our differences or you enjoy our differences and what we're talking about, we appreciate you. I personally appreciate you. If you agree with what Vinny said today, send him a Menech.

Starting point is 02:03:24 Go ahead and send him a Manek right there. That's his QR code. If you disagree with what anybody said here, myself, Adam, Tom, send them a Manek. Have a conversation with them. But the best part is, start the conversation today. By the way, for some of you that absolutely love or disagree with what Candace Owens is saying, tell me when is the last time in an election where you can actually message a Candace Owens or a Chris Cuomo or a Tulsi Gabbard and have a conversation with them.

Starting point is 02:03:49 Right now, you can manet Candace Owens and say, Candace, I'm with you, I'm not with you, I can't believe what they said, I can't believe what that person said, whatever it is. That's her manet. Go manet Candace right now, let her know what you think of what she's doing and what she's exposing and what she's talking about, whether you're with her or you're not with her, she will definitely respond back. And Candice actually responds back normally within 24 hours on Minnick.

Starting point is 02:04:12 She's one of the fastest to get back to people on Minnick. Having said that, gang, thank you so much again. Today's what? Today's Tuesday, man. Today's Tuesday. Tomorrow, Dominic Targinski's podcast will go live first thing in the morning, 9 o'clock, and then we'll do a home team again on Thursday. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye bye bye bye.

PBD Podcast - DNC Day 1, Candace Owens & Dan Bilzerian Israel Controversy, Fed Rate Cuts | PBD Podcast | Ep. 458

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