PBD Podcast - EMERGENCY Episode | PBD Podcast

Episode Date: September 18, 2021

In this emergency PBD Podcast episode, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Adam Sosnick, Gerard Michaels, and Tom Zenner to talk about General Milley, recall election results, and much more! Watch the fu...ll podcast: https://youtu.be/bVt_nHbGOjI --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Give it to me, say 3, 2, 1, we're going on time. Go. Vamanos. Vamanos. We got 45 minutes. Kore, kore, kore. 45 minutes. This has to be something serious. you What is this?
Starting point is 00:00:51 He says emergency. And we're live. Okay. We're officially live. Folks, this is an emergency podcast we're holding for one specific reason because tomorrow's podcast will be specifically with chance, Paul Menteri, the actor from Bronx Tale, which means we're not going to have time to talk about politics, California. And then we won't have podcasts till next week.
Starting point is 00:01:12 And I'm going to be on a special event this Friday. You'll hear about it. I think you'll hear about it by probably Friday afternoon, which I'll post it or to be a surprise, but we got Tom Zenner that just flew in. He's here today. He's flying back to California. No, no, I got airlifted here. I got rescued from California.
Starting point is 00:01:26 You got rescued. The choppers picked me up. I was one of the last ones to get out of California late last night. Congratulations. If we didn't do the podcast tonight to talk about California, we wouldn't be able to talk about it until next week. So this is only going to be a 45-minute podcast for us
Starting point is 00:01:40 to discuss three topics. That being one of them general mille being another one and they announce what's going on with the tax numbers maybe we can get into that a little bit deeper as well but first let's talk about what just took place with California. If you want to pull up the article I'll read the story from the Guardian and then if you want to pull up the article maybe before you get into it you want to explain why this story
Starting point is 00:02:04 means so much from you, you're from California. There's a lot because I'm getting bombarded with people who ask me, what do you think about what happened? What do you think about what happened? What do you think what happened? I'm like, I can't send a hundred messages
Starting point is 00:02:15 to people, what do you think about what happened? It's a lot easier to just do one podcast, go watch it. Here's what we think what happened to California. So, Governor Newsom, Gavin Newsom will remainia governor after handed handily defeating recall attempt not even close to guardian right newsome has prevailed in historic recall election that had him battling for his political life in a referendum on the governor's leadership uh...
Starting point is 00:02:39 through the pandemic voters resoundingly rejected the choice to replace him with a trump is republican i get a keep on and this is the Guardian. Newsom's most popular challenge was Larry Elder, a right-wing radio host to drew comparisons to the former president and who attempted to so baseless doubts about the election process. Newsom said that, invoting no on the Republican let-le recall, Californians said yes to science, they said yes to vaccines, they said yes to women's rights, they said yes to immigrant rights, they said yes to minimum wage, the environment, our future, we reject the cynicism and bigotry and chose hope and progress.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And if you saw him give the speech, he got emotional. He said, Trump is claiming there was voter fraud here. This is a very emotional moment for us. He kind of felt a little bit emotional, didn't do any questions, you just walked off, right? And by the way, numbers wise, yesterday it was 67%. We know Bakersfield and Fresno that are both big Republican counties.
Starting point is 00:03:33 They did not, the vote comes in a little bit later. Now it's 63.9%. 5.8.4 million people voted no on the recall. 3.297 million voted yes on the recall. You got 9.137 million. And then there's the stats on what it's million voted. Yes, on the recall, you got 9.137 million, and then there's the stats on what it's looking like. Yes, versus the no. So first person I'm gonna go to.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I have thoughts on this, but I'm gonna go to you first. Okay, I'm gonna go to you first. I'm curious to know folks, if you're watching this, I don't know where your position is. I don't know if you're from California or not. I also wanna hear from some of your thoughts, but will you think about what happened with California? But Tom, you live in California.
Starting point is 00:04:07 We spoke yesterday at four o'clock. When I spoke to Tom yesterday, Tom couldn't even stay focused for a second, by the way. He was nervous the entire time me and Mario were talking. That's the time. Why do you look so nervous? He says, today's the day. I said, so what's going on?
Starting point is 00:04:21 I said, it's everywhere I go. I'm here and all this stuff. So why don't you tell us how you feel about what happened last night? You know, here's how I feel, literally. I mean, I felt this way last night. I feel that the felt this way this morning when I was leaving California to you too. I literally feel like your favorite team,
Starting point is 00:04:33 say you've been following a team forever and they lose the Super Bowl. But on that same day, your favorite team loses the NBA championship and the World Series and the Easter Bunny gets run over by a cement truck. Why is that? Just because I had hope. I mean, there's very little things that you could hold out hope for, right? and the Easter Bunny gets run over by a cement truck. Why is that? Just because I had hope.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I mean, there's very little things that you could hold out hope for, right? With the grip that the Democrats have and how California has just literally turned into a different state. All right, Pat, you used to live there. Everybody else, a lot of people watching this right now, either live there or visit it.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It is not the same state. You take a drive anywhere and you just think you're in an alternate universe because this is not the California that was the, that back end everybody from all over the world and all over the United States that wanted to be there. So it was very depressing and I literally, I had built up my hopes. I literally thought there was a chance that this could happen because everybody I talked to, that was a Democrat or would be a traditional California Democrat in a normal world.
Starting point is 00:05:25 They're flipping. Here's the other thing. Dash had baseball last night. So he was training from six thirty to eight. I voted like at seven thirty. The lines were down the street at seven thirty, but by six thirty, the L.A. Times, everybody else is calling this thing. Plus with all the mail invotes, I'm not trying to say that anything happened
Starting point is 00:05:48 that shouldn't have happened, or there was any fraud, I don't know, maybe there was. But how do you call an election that quickly? You do it because you have the media right in your back pocket. They'll do whatever they want. It's the LA Times, it's unbelievable. How they were gearing up for this three or four days
Starting point is 00:06:03 in advance saying that it was gonna be a wipeoutout trying to get people not to go to the polls. So it was depressing for me because I liked Larry Elder. I liked what he stood for. I think you made a couple of mistakes, Pat. I don't think he got personal with Gavin Newsom like he should have. I think he should, all he was talking about was policy and what he was going to do. He's not an experienced politician. He should have got in there because he had plenty of ammunition where he could have buried new some on some personal things, just like
Starting point is 00:06:27 new some did to him. So that's how I'm feeling today. I'm a little bit bummed, but I'm an optimist. I'm always looking for the silver lining and here's it for me. We've got the Super Bowl coming up in February. We got the World Cup and we've got the Olympics all coming to LA. You cannot put on these types of shows on the global stage and have your back yard be a garbage dump, which is basically what LA is. It's a very good point about the California. That's a very, very good point you just made. So if those things are coming to you and they're talking about a shutdown because of vaccine mandates, you know, they just announced today, bars, movies, restaurants, all the places you go in L.A. you're required to
Starting point is 00:07:05 show a. The your vaccine passport to go into these places they do that was just announced today. Okay. So how do you how do you run those events? Well, you know, you you do the facelift right you clean the homeless off the street near Inglewood where the Super Bowl is going to be in the new stadium or downtown or even if you watch the Sunday night game last night they showed all the beauty shots of L.A. during the season opener for the Rams on Sunday night. But for the world cup at the Olympics, it's gonna be different because that's the world converging on your city and it's two and a half or three weeks or even a month. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I mean, I knew it was going to come, of course, and then there's gonna be payback, right? Because Newson's gonna take it personally that they even tried to get him out. So he's gonna, he's gonna bury us under his thumb even worse. I'm scared. You have a opinion on this or no? You're just in quiet. Of course. Tell us what you got.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I seem quiet because I'm listening to Tom Zen or cry over here. What's your opinion? All right, bro. How the hell would you feel? I don't know. I mean, I'm not from California. I've never dealt with a recall like this. I feel like this, this is a California thing.
Starting point is 00:08:04 How many other states are having recalls? Your boy, George Will, who was a, would you say mentor or what would you say? He's not a mentor. I would say he was one of the first- A thought leader of yours. Yeah, he was one of the first ones that influenced him. You know, he was on Bill Maher recently,
Starting point is 00:08:19 I think last week, and he, conservative, right? I don't know if I put him as a conservative. He's 100% conservative, but he's not a Trump conservative. He's not a maggot. He's a bullshit. He's a Bush, a yoga clown. He's a Lincoln project guy. Sure.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Yeah. Okay. That's a conservative though, but they're going to say, don't know if it is. I, to be honest with you, we can go off the rails here. I don't even know what a conservative is at this point. I don't think it matters anymore. Yeah, I don't even know what it means.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, I don't think it matters anymore. I don't even know what it means. Yeah, I don't even know what it means. What an idea of left i have left in right of republican and democrat of liberal conservative that they're just words at this point what we do agree on that what we have emerging are too very very clear camps you have the collectivists and you have the individualists you you have the globalists and the federalists and that that's what's really emerging that's a better way of putting it i agree but i don't think i i i would vent i would venture to guess that fifty percent
Starting point is 00:09:04 of the people could not define any of those words he just used. Collectiveist means what? So what is the benefit? We're all going to do this. I guess. So, Professor, I heard a professor from Cornell University said, what makes capitalism work and what makes this work in companies and what backfires on companies is you have to be
Starting point is 00:09:21 able to pump up the collective but make sure you individually recognize the individuals above and beyond everybody else which means what the team wins a championship you can say you can't say all we did this all together it wasn't because of one person no here's how football game ends with gang great job defense great job offense phenomenal job but the game ball goes to pop up on the america's not doing game ball anymore america's just doing we want we forgot about the game ball that's what he's saying collective but go ahead you
Starting point is 00:09:53 can make it for the California look at being from florida we don't have the divisive politics you guys have in california this is something i've learned since being a value-tame and even new jersey like gerard has very strong feelings against the also is not what i think so your boy film or fee whatever is the very strong feelings you have very strong feelings uh... against gavin new some in florida were just like look where purple state
Starting point is 00:10:20 look will get along well not get along it's fine it's all good i'll see it the club it's not that big of a deal obviously in california's a very big deal but i'm not shocked by this i think what i'm most shocked at is the fact that i've been spoon fed this gavin new sums out of here for the last year and dude it wasn't even close sixty seven percent wasn't even close like we've been uh... we've been whether it's the topics we cover whether it's the people that are on the show
Starting point is 00:10:43 whether it's who's who said he's he's gonna be out Who said who has said he's gonna be out? No, it's just been a theme that we've been discussing that Gavin news We say he's gonna be out no matter what I mean well Tom's when Tom's inner guaranteed it. I knew it was happening. I Know but continue please the bottom line is this it wasn't close Two to one margins is exactly what they same margin to you what does it mean anything california there's no no you have to know that it has to be something that there's two to one democrats in california california is democratic state right nice trial area
Starting point is 00:11:17 there wasn't happening the closest thing they had to a republican recently was the governor screw your freedoms that Arnold Schwarzenegger yeah the point is this i thought this would be a lot closer because of the stuff that I'm hearing around us, but it wasn't even close. How did it been 10 points? 20 points, whatever. It wasn't even a close situation before Gerard. I'm trying to see if you're trying to make a point, bro. Like, tell me the point is it wasn't close. I know, but what does that mean? There's some. I mean, we think it was going to be close no it's not about okay so why isn't it close
Starting point is 00:11:48 tell me why it's not close because democrats it everything was voted around political lines would you not agree that the california is not is that the most or if not the biggest democratic state in the country top five yeah blew a state okay i would say number one but So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five?
Starting point is 00:12:06 So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five?
Starting point is 00:12:14 So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five?
Starting point is 00:12:22 So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So, why would you say top five? So every street around you and what L.A.s turned into, you'd take it a little bit more personally. Here's a quick fight on what you asked. Adam right now is, here's what it tells me. The Democrats have a game plan and an agenda when it comes to an election. They attack, they rally, they do whatever it takes to win
Starting point is 00:12:39 and they're successful at it. Bobo was cutting TV commercials. All right, Biden was in Long Beach on Monday night. They rally together, whether they're telling you the truth or not, they have a message, they stick to it and they're ruthless. And the Republicans don't like that way. I respect that.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah, the Republicans haven't picked up that play card yet. Let me say one thing and then I want to get your hard thoughts. Here are the biggest issues in California. Let me ask you, let me ask a question. Who from the Republican side showed up to California to help rely Larry Elder? Not one damn person. who from the Republican side showed up to California to help Ray Elder not one damn person Give me one name showed up to California. I can't think of what that's the point zero zero and Larry Elder so articulate because he's a
Starting point is 00:13:13 Broadcaster that you can carry a message by himself and he's likable and on paper How could you not love the guy but no one showed no one no one no one showed that's on the Republicans? I can't get mad at the Democrats. I agree. They showed up. I fully agree. Exactly. I fully agree. What we talk about today, you said the best ability is your availability. Yeah. Obama made himself available.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yeah. Biden made himself available. I agree. Commolimators of available. Who made themselves available for? There is no debating them. That's why I'm not showing. But go ahead, give your review. Here's what they said, the biggest issues
Starting point is 00:13:40 were for the voting block. First and foremost, not even close was COVID. 31%. Number two, like you said, homelessness, 22%. The economy taxes, 16% top three wildfires in California, a big deal, 14%. And then number five, crime, 8%. Yeah, and all reasons that I can't believe it. By the way, by the way, okay, so to your point, they asked, how's California doing with COVID? 40% said it's getting better. 40%. 30% said staying the same. 24% said it's getting worse. So to your point, they're actually happy with the job he's doing. No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:18 that's not the wait a minute. We read that number again. Go back to the getting 60% with. No, no, you said 40% said it's getting better. Get it better. 30% said what? It's staying the same and 20% said what? It's getting more. What's a bigger number? 50 or 40? Staying the same. Staying the same and 20 is not a positive. It's not getting worse. No, no, but you don't understand. Staying the same is not a positive thing to vote for. Ah, yeah. Staying the same. Yeah, who are they talking to? They're talking to teachers outside of a union hall. So let me give, let me give my take here.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Well, the polling shows that he won. So what are we talking about? Not he won. He destroyed. Exactly. By the way, this is like, this is like, 48 to, you know, to touch. He was like, it's not even close.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So here's a couple things. Here's a couple things. One is anybody surprised guys are taxing on the only answer i'm given is why are you surprised why are you surprised tell me why you're surprised okay one on a recall does he have to debate anybody no no no question number two the can he use the government funds to help him win the recall
Starting point is 00:15:24 yes or no yes you know how much money he spent of taxpayers money to help him state two hundred million eight eighty million dollars that they are cause some eighty million box Larry Elder doesn't have that kind of money which means what makes you think the right guy one it's the guy with more money and more pull one it's not the right guy one every part of the but let's continue let's continue let want to let's continue. Let's continue. Let's continue. Let's continue. Second, third part, there is no debate for me to set against this guy to really
Starting point is 00:15:49 be able to weigh him out. So that's just not going to be taking place. We covered out a little bit earlier, but there's no debate. I didn't see Larry Elder's policies going up against this policies. There was nothing like that. We did not see a single debate because that's how the system is set up. Okay, fine. Let's continue. What does this mean with Obama, Biden, all of those guys showing up? What does it mean? Hey, Republicans, just so you know that picture with you, Bush, Obama, everybody together saying Bush is now changing his legacy because he keeps throwing Trump under the bus. Guess what you're indirectly doing? You're doing exactly what they want you to do for them to win because they are united and they have somebody from the other side on their side.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Which means Republicans are confused. If I'm a Republican and if I go out, say I'm a big governor Republican, I go out and I support Larry Elder. Am I indirectly being seen as being a pro-Trump guy? Because Larry Elder is a pro-Trump guy? Yes. Okay, that's what I'm saying. So your advisor as a governor who's got, you know, election coming up, you're sending your advisor,
Starting point is 00:16:56 saying, listen, I'll skip this one. I probably wouldn't go to this one if I were you just kind of stay home, dude. You don't need to do this. Who cares of California? We don't get nothing from California. So I'm not going, right? Okay, go to the next part so Obama Biden
Starting point is 00:17:06 those guys come all ago Pelosi they all support them fantastic phenomenal job when is the last time California has a Republican governor once the last time that's not a Republican that's he was a he's not a Republican okay like a true Republican no no Republican he's saying no part of the party ran as a Republican no he's not a Republican. What do you mean? I agree. You know, right? He ran as a Republican, but he's not a Republican.
Starting point is 00:17:28 He's a celebrity, meaning he's a celebrity that ran as a Republican. He's not a Republican. He's not a Republican. Well, that's true Republican. That's what we talked about earlier. The words are so confusing. I just like I tell you, Trump's not a Republican. Trump to me is an independent.
Starting point is 00:17:44 He's not a Republican. The first me is an independent. He's not a Republican. The first independent president we ever had was Donald Trump. He's not a Republican. Don't get it twisted. The guy had to run as a Republican ticket, not an independent ticket. So our note is probably an independent.
Starting point is 00:17:57 He ran as a Republican ticket. He's not a Republican. You don't win as a Republican, okay? Just like Kevin that came over here, meet Kevin, he ran as a what? Democrat. But he's not a Democrat. He's probably an independent, but he can't win on an independent.
Starting point is 00:18:10 He says he's 51, 49 Democrats. I say he's an independent, but strategically, he made the right choice to run as a Democrat. Basically, you're saying people are independent. The last time California had a Republican governor was probably Wilson or the Armenian governor that they have Dukmejan, I think that's his last name. Pete Dukmejan, that was an Armenian governor. I went to a couple events in his later years. So, so the last time they had a governor Republican was quite some time ago.
Starting point is 00:18:37 What does that mean for California? What are the chances of a Republican person winning in California the next eight years. Let's see, let's process that together and kind of go through it. All right, number one, how many people watch this year? Watch the angle I'm going to take with this. How many people, like Tom, didn't leave California because they were hopeful that a Larry Elder or somebody would flip, the recall would happen, and they're not leaving California because let were hopeful that a Larry Elder or somebody would flip the recall would happen and they're not leaving California because let's face it. There's not a state in America
Starting point is 00:19:10 that has better weather than California. If you take regulation, the way of you handle COVID and taxes out, there's not a state that competes with California. If you take governing out, if you take, you know, if you take governing out, I'm telling you right now, there's no weather and that comes that's California. See what it should know whether it comes Florida's close. No, no, no, no, no, I don't think it's two different climates. But I tell you I choose I choose California one. I just Florida number two just so you know, but to me it's a very close, but I still put California at the time. And I'm not even living in California. I'm in Florida right now, but here's what just happened. This is the part why I don't think Republicans are gonna win there for a long time. Okay? For eight years I think it's got to get very painful before something happens. Here's my prediction. My prediction is those who were on the tipping point, they officially booked their tickets. Now booking their tickets could be 90 days, could be six months, could be 12 months.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Oh yeah, yeah, could be 18 months, could be 24 months. But how many husband and wives had a conversation last night saying babe, what are we doing? I remember when I had my conversation, business owner. I left in 20, I left in what year? I left in California, shit, what is it like? We came here when, February of 2021, so go back five years as well, 2016. We left February 1st of 2016, right?
Starting point is 00:20:32 Do you know when I was leaving California? 2013 maybe? I was in Woodland Hills in my office, a guy knocked on my door, said, I'm here to collect taxes. I said, what? He said, I'm here to collect taxes. What kind of taxes? I pay my state taxes, I pay my federal taxes. Woody what he said i'm here to collect taxes what kind of taxes i pay my state taxes i
Starting point is 00:20:46 pay my federal taxes what he he says it's county taxes so wait what are you talking about he says yes county taxes we here that you're doing well we obviously follow your stuff we hear you're making money you have to pay your county tax i'm not even kidding with you this guy comes and gives me his business gonna bullshit this is fraud yeah i go to eight floor my uh..., my, what do you call them?
Starting point is 00:21:05 I count them who were on that floor. I say, what is this all about? It says, shit, they got you. It's hidden miss. They barely get any business, but when they do, you got to pay up. I say, I have to pay this, is it? So you know, it's nearly $80,000.
Starting point is 00:21:15 So you say, that's two employees, I can't. So you got to pay that $80,000. So I said, okay, I'm going to move to, I'm going to move to Glendale because there's 13 counties that don't have LA, what do you call it? County, taxes. Burbank's one of them, Burbank, Glendale because of Hollywood Burbank was one of them I think Santa Monica's one of Victor. Those one of them anyways the lens
Starting point is 00:21:30 I think some of these guys are one like 13 counties so I move every time I moved More stuff was coming up in 2012 I told morale and I told Jen Grace for impact were probably gonna end up in Texas morale laughed at me Jennifer at me. Jennifer said, babe, I'm not going back to Texas. And he's from Texas. So we ended up in Texas, three years later. I'm telling you right now, God knows how many people booked their ticket out yesterday.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Yeah, and I'll tell you. The only timeline is we don't know when. It could be 90 days, it could be six months, it could be 24 months, but it's tens of thousands that believe in capitalism, that believe in freedom of choice of choosing what I do with my body, okay, and I'm not talking about abortion, I'm talking about what I want to do like Nicki Manage type of freedom. It's people that just want to be left on, it's libertarians, it's independence, it's Republicans that are sitting there saying, can I really live with this for another four to eight
Starting point is 00:22:21 years? And it's not the fact that you can live with Democrats, that's not the issue. There's many states that are okay. There's two states, maybe three states that are going above and beyond. New York is one. It's probably a handful. New York's one. The other one is what? California. So if they thought like, oh, mass exodus, you just saw the people that are patient who sat around that are saying you push me a little bit too much. That's what they want, too, though. You got to be very clear. They again, I keep saying these are not stupid people in these positions. A little gamut newsam might actually be stupid.
Starting point is 00:22:50 You can't in all of the campaigning. By the way, Joe Biden didn't campaign for himself for presidency, but he campaigns for Gavin Newsom. It's it's it's as he didn't need to win California. It was in California. Yeah. You said the right thing. How many Republicans went out? This need to win California. It was in the back in California. Yeah. And you said the right thing. How many Republicans went out?
Starting point is 00:23:08 This is part of the problem I have with the national Republican party. Rush Limbaugh, RIP Rush. He was been saying this for four years. He's like, somebody's got to get out. But who? Somebody who's got to get out there. He's like, everybody in the state outside of outside of the San Francisco. What I know.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Why? For who? He's too toxic. I know. Again, but that's what I'm saying. I is the following what I'm saying to you is the fact that the only guy That would show up. Yeah, okay, you know what only guy that would show up. Well, he doesn't really do right now So maybe his schedule's pretty open. I'm sorry Adam Adam if you go back even when he was president Nobody traveled and worked his I agree with you on that and that even when he was president nobody traveled and worked his I agree with you on that and that's when he was president if you ever
Starting point is 00:23:49 Watches really you would have never seen this guy walk in a way from a press conference. I love I agree I'm not even hating right now. Yeah, sure if there's anybody that'll sit down with anyone in his Trump. Hey, here's what I think the Republicans are missing right now a Carl Rove a strategist and ask kicker that knows what he's doing. No, Pat, here's what I think the Republicans are missing right now. A Karl Rove, a strategist, an ass kicker that knows what he's doing. No, no, no, remember when he was running this show? There's a schism.
Starting point is 00:24:11 There isn't, you say the Republicans, who are you talking about? I don't know, someone that can be Gavin Newsom. Mitch McConnell and Dick Cheney and the Bush Republicans, team global. Team global. They like that the teams winning. Team global, right?
Starting point is 00:24:27 You have the other side, the individuals, the business owners, all that basket of deplorables. It patched it best. This is people who just want to be left alone, of fighting against people who refuse to leave them alone. That is the time that we find ourselves in. All right, and what you just saw in California. First of all, the biggest thing that came out of this,
Starting point is 00:24:49 I had never really paid attention to Gavin Newsom. I was like, this guy's got great hair. That's all I really thought. But he's basically royalty. I didn't know he was Pelosi's pseudo-Nephi. Yes. And he's Barbara Baxter's nephew, and that day he's married to a fine sign. Well,
Starting point is 00:25:05 did you this is this is the Borges. Did you also know that this is the medituary, you know, where the funding came from his winery, the Getty family. The get so getty Baxter fine sign and and and Pelosi. So marketable though. This is what so much like a president. But dude, I keep thinking like 200 years now like I'm a huge history buff, you guys know that. One of the most interesting anecdotes of history, Justinian, what we call the Byzantine Empire, they didn't know it as the Byzantine Empire back then. It was just known as Rome.
Starting point is 00:25:34 They called it Rome. It was always Rome, even though Rome had fallen. So Justinian, the emperor decided, no, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna get back Western Rome. I'm gonna unite the old empire. And he goes on this campaign And he unites the empire right but so many people that were not in politics So many people that didn't care on the day to day when the barbarians after
Starting point is 00:25:55 Allerick and all those guys after they took over Roman sac Rome They called themselves emperors and they just kept the Roman policies. They kept the Roman the money So when Justinian came across, and he would like go to Roman people in Northern Italy, be like, congratulations, Rome is together again. And people would look at him and be like, uh, when will we not Roman? Like they had no idea.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Yeah, let me ask you all the questions. 300 years, they had no idea. He's up for reelection next year. Do you think there's enough time and enough of strategy that the Republicans can put together to have any hope for next November? Any? Okay, so if they do, if they do,
Starting point is 00:26:32 who's gonna come and campaign for the guy? Okay, give me five days. So by the way, let me ask a question different way. Let me ask a question different way. Let me ask a question different way. Give me 10 names from the left that are willing to go and campaign for anybody and any estate for it to flip to be a blue state.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Give me 10 names. Come on. Look how long it'll take, you go. Okay, come on, you got Pelosi, if she can get on a plane, Obama, probably Hillary, Biden, Bernie, AOC, Michelle Goe,
Starting point is 00:27:02 Bernie, AOC, the Michigan governor, you name anybody. We knew some anybody because they're that united. Right? If you think they're united now, when they get $350 trillion into their unions and their power, that entire infrastructure bill is to pay them three, four and five trillion. They're only, they're only just getting started, baby.
Starting point is 00:27:22 So, but now, you're going somewhere, you're going to, right? Your follow up is what Republicans will go do that. They're not going to do that baby. So, but now... Well, you're going somewhere, this. You're gonna, right? Your follow-up is what Republicans will go do that. Yeah, they're not gonna do that. They don't have the money. Hey, Drew! Listen, Mitch McConnell. This is a problem.
Starting point is 00:27:31 The problem is that one side is all about the collective. The other side is all about the individual. This is why I believe center right is the right place to be. And the only reason is center right is because the right fiscally you cannot debate capitalism. I don't want to hear any argument against capitalism. I don't care if you your feelings got hurt because you lost to somebody else because they put in more effort than you did. Capitalism works, the only type of capitalism that doesn't work is crony capitalism. And nobody wants crony capitalism except the people
Starting point is 00:28:02 at the top that are willing to buy that fine some of them are doing that no Proud and by the way if you got rid of lobbyists a lot of shit would change in capitalism if you actually eliminated The concept of lobbying a lot of things would change, but let me let me take a different angle for you Let me take a different angle for you go back 12 months ago 12 months no go back 13 months ago 14 months ago Who's a hero on TV every day is it a Komaos? Foulshaan who? Koma and Koma and Foulshaan and Nusom these guys were heroes, okay? 14 months ago. Who's a hero on TV every day? This is the Cuomo's. Fouch. Cuomo and Cuomo.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Fouchy. And Nusom. These guys were heroes, okay? They were heroes, if you thought about it. Texas, Florida, you guys are irresponsible, etc., etc. They're still doing that with Florida. Fast forward, fast forward to six months ago, who became an enemy of the left, on the left. Cuomo.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Cuomo. Yeah. How quickly did they take this guy from the next potential president to... This guy's got to get the left on the left. Who? Como. How quickly did they take this guy from the next potential president to, this guy's gotta get the hell out of here. He made it. He cut him off. I said, as fast as they could, you think he's the first person
Starting point is 00:28:53 that has stories like that? As fast as he said. You think, by the way. He's a guy and he talks with his hands. Let me ask you a question. Who had a worse story up and to be in a governor and wanting to run for president, Bill Clinton or Cuomo? It's not even close.
Starting point is 00:29:08 It's fair to say it's not even close. It's not even close. It's not even close. Okay, so now watch this. Now watch this. So let's put two people against each other. Let's put three people against each other. You ready?
Starting point is 00:29:18 I love games like this. Let's put a guy named Cuomo in there, Andrew. Let's put a guy named Nusum in there. Let's put a guy name, Nusum and there. Let's put a guy name, Manchin and there. Between those three, who is most likely willing to say yes to anything their political party tells them to do, just to be able to get a nicer, fatter title. I'd say Nusum.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Oh my God. I agree. Which one's the least like Manchin? I would actually tell you it's both of them. I would actually think it's like mansion wins by 52 to 48 but it's not a big difference I don't see Koma as a yes guy nor do I see mansion as a yes guy certainly not now the most the most marketable people on the left are those that say yes Newsom is a yes guy Koma's clearly not a no guy
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yes, no, some is a yes guy. Cuomo's clearly not a no guy. Ha ha ha ha ha. He is a yes guy. Okay, meaning no, some is a yes guy. They got a guy that they're gonna market. FYI, you may have just seen your future president. I think that you have, just so you know that. Here's the question.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Do you think he's more on his, do you think of his mark? Listen, all you have to know is, all you have to know is, who's better, him or Biden? As a president. Him, him, him. But name me one thing need one thing new sims done it doesn't matter it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:30:30 what about you what about me exactly what question did you just ask your idea you're very intellectual i understand what you said but you can't you have to be able to name no thing that way way way he looks apart has what it obama do one-term guy he would yeah well you wasused great speaker i've heard gavin new some speak is not about a lot of attention and face a very very well put together good look at it looks like that's why he was the sexy voice i'm sorry he's extremely mario
Starting point is 00:30:58 he looks like christian veil in american side he's doing the first word about this he's got to go for a third of the very easily toed to me. Gavin Newsom said very easily fostered. He's been having an ask for questions. He is all, that's why he was so worried because he thought this would get the express train off the rails as far as the only thing that matters for him is to be present. I like what Jack Koso just gave 50 bucks.
Starting point is 00:31:19 He says, let's have Adam live in New York City or LA for six months. His position on many things will change. Adam, you're a smart guy, wake up, bro, no way those votes counts as legit. Even liberals don't want their kids exposed to all the trashy people under city streets. Anyways, okay. Can I validate one point you made, though? Yeah. When you hit that tipping point, right, as far as like for me, I think if you're not
Starting point is 00:31:40 booking your ticket out of California and you love California, you love LA, you're at least considering what it's going to be because it what is inevitable that would pull the trigger. And I know what it is for me. If homelessness comes into Manhattan Beach, if that happens, I'll see you guys when the week. Let me tell you this, you asked about strategy and this is the strategy, right? In any particular situation, all right, you have two binary options as you're immediate options. You have fight or you have flight. And if you are not going to commit to the fight, if you are not
Starting point is 00:32:10 going to rally the troops and you are not going to get a war chest together, get out of there. Go to a place, consolidate your well-being. This is why I keep telling all my friends and family in New York, Philadelphia, you've sat down on Long Island, Brooklyn, I believe, let them have it. They won. Give it to them. There's no reason that your life should be ruined. There's no reason that the hours of your life should pay for what they want.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Come down to a place that has your worldview. I'm gonna tell you, moving the Florida was like, guys, in New York, you know, listen to drugs. Stay the hell in New York, we don't want you in Florida. And then what'll happen is let the weight of their programs hollow them out. Let them die on the vine and then go back
Starting point is 00:32:51 and pick up the pieces. Let they want to be Detroit, be Detroit. They want to be Moscow, be Moscow. Come down, live your life and then go back. Here's a, the level of strategy on one side is so much better than the other side. You know how easy it is to be the team that's divided? Just think about it this way. Here's what you got to think about.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Go to the Laker Squad where it's Kobe, it's Shaq, it's Malone, it's Peyton, it's Rod, I mean go who was on that squad? Everybody and their mothers was on that squad. Smush Parker. Everybody was on that squad, but you know what they were they were Distant they couldn't stand down here and with each other. They were just Absolute highest level of hatred fill left it was so ugly nobody could keep that Team together right what happened to them did they win the championship? No, they lost the first on paper if you go take any video game, you put that squad together,
Starting point is 00:33:47 match them up against anybody, seven game series who beat them. Nobody. Yeah. As a team team, not as you make your own team, like Michael, LeBron, you put everybody on the same team. The Republicans have so much talent right now. They got a great squad, but you are not united. You're not going to be to anybody.
Starting point is 00:34:02 It's just not simple. You're just not going to be to everybody. Not in California. It gets. It doesn't matter. just not going to be everybody. We're not in California. It gets. It doesn't matter. But here's the other part. Let me give you the other part. That's what's happening. When policies on your own political side
Starting point is 00:34:16 start making no sense, a kid will even question his own father and mother, just like an individual will question their own individual party. If a kid will, how many times did you question your mom or dad's decision? Often. Okay, by the way, how many times do you think they're gonna question my decision as a girl?
Starting point is 00:34:35 You're kids? Yeah, they'll still probably question. Of course they're going to, of course they're going to. My son has already done it. Tico's under multiple, so has Dylan. How long has your ground him? No, he didn't get grounded. I actually, I don't mind a conversation like that.
Starting point is 00:34:48 But here's the point. The voters right now, what is happening is they're simply sitting there. Some of them are saying, I don't mind being a freaking Democrat. I don't mind being this. Some of this shit just doesn't make any sense. Am I the only one that's thinking this way? Some of this stuff just doesn't make sense. That's when it gets weird.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Because Adam, as much as you're sitting here saying what you're saying, you wouldn't survive in California or New York today. You wouldn't be able to do it. You wouldn't be able to live in California. So I live in Florida. But what I'm trying to tell you is, he's firsthand.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I lived there five and a half years ago. So I'm firsthand, but five and a half years ago. It's not the same California today as it was five and a half years ago. Six years ago, So very different California, right? If you go there today, then what it was five and a half years ago, people are feeling the pain. Now, what will happen with this part here? What's going to happen here? This is what I'm hoping. This is what I'm hoping. Today, I was interviewing Sal Romano. Sal Romano was the former Mob's Wall Street guy. This guy, in Bezos, they were in bezor ten billion per year not be a bit from the stock market
Starting point is 00:35:48 he had one point was worth three hundred million dollars salar mano for the gambino family he would he did stuff with miki scars from the guy he did a bunch of different things that this guy salar time uh... he did time yeah but salar mano was he was literally sitting were at him sitting here right now he left about thirty minutes ago forty five minutes go to be exact thirty minutes ago forty five minutes goes where he left right And we're sitting there having a conversation together.
Starting point is 00:36:09 There comes a time where you can no longer tolerate what's going on and you're eventually going to flip. So he's sitting there telling the stories of, well, you know, eventually everybody flips, why does eventually everybody flip in a mob world? Well, because of this, because of that, because of this, Okay. If I back you up and you continuously backs that me, what am I loyal to? So if I give you my vote and you're constantly abusing my vote, you don't think certain parties are sitting there saying, why did I want my voting this way? For the longest and black's voted Republican, Martin Luther King was a registered Republican. What happened when they were registered Republican? Shows up a guy named for the longest and blacks voted republican martin luftere king was a registered republican
Starting point is 00:36:45 what happened when they were registered republican shows up again in very goldwater right then what happens i'm sorry it all flipped it parties flip by the way not by a little bit it went from sixty percent to ninety two percent of african americans voting democrat like this how many how many african making grum grandmothers do you know that all they
Starting point is 00:37:04 talk about is the Bible? How many friends do you have? I had a bunch of friends that was grown up. If I saw their mom or grandma, everything was about the Bible, Bible, Bible, Bible. More than Armenians, whites, or more than any other, it was always the Bible. That's a conservative belief. What happens? Hey Republicans, you did this? Barry Goldwater? No problem. So, you know, as much as I think California is not gonna flip for four to eight years, I think it's gonna stay that way. I don't think this stays like that for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I don't think this is gonna be like that for 20 years. I have a question for you. I have a rhetorical question for the group here. This is an interesting one. So, there's no freebies in politics. If you do something you're getting rewarded or you're gonna pay a price, people don't do things for politicians
Starting point is 00:37:44 out of the goodness of their heart. Every single radio and television ad for Gavin Newsom for the last two months was tagged that it was presented by Reed Hastings. The money that Reed Hastings spent ran the media campaign for Gavin Newsom and it was mentioned at the end of every spot where they accused Larry Elder of being right of Trump, being an anti-vaxxer read hastings read hastings re hastings does that come back now because of this this this this race the streaming wars does he get an advantage over a couple of people know who we have things
Starting point is 00:38:14 i know we see you have netflix he has people know that he already has susan rice and baracle and michelle obama's board so i mean the the it is what it is here's here was really honest to God looking at this, my biggest takeaway, San Francisco runs United States now. It's not New York, it's not LA, it's not even DC.
Starting point is 00:38:33 The whole United States runs through Silicon Valley now and Silicon Valley runs through San Francisco. Everything goes through San Fran. Because of the media, social media, because of the politics. No, no, politicians are so in bed with big tech. And big tech is in San Francisco. And you think about it, you've got Gavin Newsom, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Baxter,
Starting point is 00:38:54 you've got Molly Harris, Nancy Pelosi, all of them, San Francisco residents, right? And you're coming out Google, Facebook, every tech company in America has their hub there from hub where. Now why does that scare me? Because this is going to translate into general Millie. Who runs Silicon Valley? Who's running Silicon Valley right now?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Do you think who has more say over what Google does? America, DC, or Beijing? Who dictates what Facebook does today? DC or Beijing? So if Silicon Valley is now the power hub, the information center of America, okay? And Silicon Valley doesn't answer to DC and answer to Beijing. Who's running the information in America? I unpacked that. Why are you saying that they all answered a Beijing? You're saying all these big tech companies are all answering to CCP, which companies? If they will change their rules, they will change what they do.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Oh, which companies? All of them. If you've been tracking this at all for five years, every single update that they do, every single thing that they do, and you're talking about Hollywood, we talk about Hollywood, the single update that they do, every single thing that they do. And you're talking about Hollywood, we talk about Hollywood, the southern part of the state? John Cena, are they changing their movies to make sure that they don't piss off
Starting point is 00:40:14 conservative Americans or libertarian Americans, they're independent Americans, we even Democrats, or are they changing their movies? Are they actually changing movies? Let's talk about this, let's talk about this. With the remaining time, we don't have a lot of time together, because we gotta head out, I'll say, let's finish up at 555 because I'm not meeting Chast We up we're Chast till
Starting point is 00:40:30 630 so Most the solution, okay, brighter side is what I want to do. Let's spend the last 21 minutes talking about the brighter side So a few things some people are listening to this there from California. Oh my gosh What do I do? Whatever you doing don't do anything emotionally right right now like you don't need to do anything next 30 60 90 days Just kick it. We're just having this conversation because it just happened. That's number one's power Yeah, so you just need to have the information you don't need to emotionally want to all of a sudden say Oh, here's what we're doing. No my suggestion number one start researching Nonstop, whatever you can get your hands on to research.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And by the way, anytime we're having a podcast and we're having an issue that we're going to debate on the podcast, I try to watch two channels. I'll go to MSNBC CNN, then I'll go to Fox on the same point. I'll hear what Tucker has to say, then I'll hear what the left has to say, whether it's Joe, whether it's Matt Owl, Cooper, I just want to see what's being said on both sides. Do your research. Don't just do research from one side.
Starting point is 00:41:30 You will be fooled. I'm telling you right now, you will be fooled if you just get your information from one side. So that's that. Second part, if you're in a state, you know this whole story about you put a frog in a water, you start boiling it gradually, he's not going to jump jump out and then all of a sudden, he's like, it's too late, it's 212 degrees,
Starting point is 00:41:48 you're dead, oh shit, I died. Done, right? Well, that's kind of what's happened in California. It's not a big deal, it's not a big deal, it's not a big deal, it's not a big deal, it's not a big deal. And he drove, I'm gonna keep saying this, and people say, Pat, I don't think that's the right way
Starting point is 00:42:00 to live, how are you gonna live a happy life like that? He has the best book he wrote on business that every C-suite executive founder entrepreneur needs to leave only the paranoid survive. If you're listening to this and you're not in a state called California or New York or Oregon or whatever else you want to call it. And you're in a place like Texas or floating like,
Starting point is 00:42:19 oh, thank God I live in Florida. Do not be naive. I'm coming for you, boy. Do not be naive. This is not coming for you, boy. Do not be naive. This is the war of getting people to think in a certain way and they are not slowing down. They're gonna come after you. The other day I was watching a video of a mother
Starting point is 00:42:34 on David Harris' Instagram page. This mother was sharing textbooks of his kids reading these books at 12 years old. And I don't know if you saw that or not. Did you see that? I don't want to say what we're on today. The mayor, I think because of David Harris, to show you the power of information.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Because of David Harris and his reach, and you shared it a bunch of other influential people shared it, the mayor went to the town hall, called a judge and said, I've confirmed with the judge that this is child pornography. You will be arrested if you can either resign, your board, your board see right now. So, this is, again, not the panic.
Starting point is 00:43:07 That's what I'm saying. This is what I'm trying to say is, stay paranoid. Don't just sit there and say, go on tonight and say, Babe, thank God we're living in a place like this. Nope, that's not how I'm wired. I still ask the questions. You still gotta ask the question.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Whatever your kids are going to, ask the question, what did they talk about in school today? What did they talk about in school today? All of a sudden your kid brings an argument home to you, who brought that up to you, my teacher? What do they say? They say the president is this. They say that, why people are this?
Starting point is 00:43:32 They said that, you know, rich people are this. Who said that? What makes you believe that? Go to school, talk to the teacher about it. Don't sit around and say, it's not a big deal, babe. Just let it go. It's not a big deal yet. Let it go.
Starting point is 00:43:44 How many times have you heard the story of a father saying, you know my chest hurts? You know my chest hurts? You know my chest hurts. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. Six months later, it's a big deal. It has a heart attack demand dies. Your chest was hurting. Go to the flipping dock. You could have prevented that with a blood thinner.
Starting point is 00:43:58 You could have lived 30 more years, but we lost you. We don't get those memories for you to go walk your daughter down the aisle. Stop acting as if it cannot happen to you. Everything is about you not being naive thinking this cannot happen to your county, to your city, to your community, to your state. You have to stay as active as possible in gathering information, read as much as you can both sides.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Don't be naive. If you do that part, you'll have to hire a shot. And by the way, I'll say I'll go a little bit even further than that. Here's what I will tell you. Gary Caspar was at the event two weeks ago. Okay, and I'm talking to Gary, and I say Gary, you call that Putin in 2008.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Do you have any political aspirations? No, no, no, I don't want to do any politics. I don't want to do any politics. I don't want to do politics. So what are you talking about? Do you remember when I had, like, what are you talking about? Yeah, I'll get back to it. Yeah, what do you talk about? Part of this was on stage.
Starting point is 00:44:50 He says, I tweet. I said, what do you mean you're not going to go around for politics? No, no, I don't want to go to politics. I said, no, you got to go. You got to do something. You can't just be sitting here writing stuff. You have a story that you can actually look at what David Harris
Starting point is 00:45:01 is doing with his stuff. He flips. There are people that are flipping today. Even JPCers, the comedian, he's getting people to think because the approach is taken the guy's very important today JP Sears is very necessary today Who's the most necessary person in America today? Who's the most necessary who is and name the number one most necessary Person in America today Dave Chappelle. It's it's a guy named Joean. Rogan, OK. There isn't anybody in America today most necessary than Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Joe is got the same status. Thank God they still haven't come after him to say he's done something. Oh, they've tried. I understand, but he's got such a loyal follow-on that the people will go after them. So some people who have never had any aspirations for politics, I think it's time.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Some people who have never had any desires to want to go do anything and you kind of seen some of the stuff that's really brewing in you and it's firing you up, do not waste that fire. Do something with it. Yeah. It may be a five-year plan, it may be a 10-year plan, it may be a 15-year plan, it may be a 20-year plan, but it's time to get the bench deep because in the next 10, 20, 30, 40 years, we're gonna need some true solid true believers to work on that. I'm real quick because sorry, to his point, I have the perfect example Because in the next 10 20 30 40 years we're gonna need some true True Because sorry, but to his point I have the perfect example that when I was working in the state house in Jersey There was a none all right, and it does you don't have to run the whole one reason I'm saying this is that he's so right
Starting point is 00:46:16 You don't have to run you don't even have to donate you just have to be loud There was a none who said there people were drag racing down the block, okay? Down the block, she called the state house every single day, when can we get a speed bump? Okay, I'll call back tomorrow, when can we get a speed bump? One woman, one woman, all right? She called for like 32 straight days and then finally, my boss, Gene Ashman was like, my god almighty, somebody just did this lady
Starting point is 00:46:41 of freaking speed bump, she got the speed bump, she got the speed bump, that one lady making a phone call every day. She spoke for an entire community and got it done. And I'll validate that one of the things I've had said that if you think you live in South Dakota, Texas, Florida, Idaho, one of these states where you think you're safe, they're coming for your school board. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:46:59 They're infiltrating the core of the apple, right? So they can get these kids now and they're patient. So don't think it's not happening in your state. And in your state, you were in Dallas? Go to deep-album. Did it feel like you were in Texas? No. Red tech?
Starting point is 00:47:12 No. You were in Texas? No. Red tech interviewed a lot of people in Florida. No. E-Bor City, in Florida. E-Bor City could be Brooklyn, New York. Pat, let me pose a question for you.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And I know you want to end there in the next 5, 10 minutes. So I want to throw something your way. And this is a question, maybe a suggestion in the audience, and then maybe something that advice the people. Do you think, would you say that our channel is built more for employers or employees? Free thinkers is number one. Okay. Um, but we are a capitalist channel. We do encourage entrepreneurs, entrepreneur or entrepreneurs. So to me it's
Starting point is 00:47:50 Entrepreneurs independent free thinkers that are constantly figuring out ways to do something better. I would say that's the basis Yeah, but capitalism is the basis. Yeah awesome. We're on the same picture. Are there more employers? In the country or more employees not even close. What's the number? I would say it's 20 to one. 20 to one. Oh, yeah. There's more employees. No question. Are more employers likely to be Republicans or Democrats, employers, business owners, employees or years. He's going to bell curb. Okay. So you got probably conservative. yes. Not Republican. And more employees, maybe. I don't think it's Republican. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I think it's capitalist. Employers will be capitalist, but you could be a Democratic capitalist. Would you, or are you willing to say that employers and employees, maybe they have a similar mission, but a different, maybe agenda or an outlook? Okay. Is that fair to say?
Starting point is 00:48:43 I'm not sure what you're going to. Okay, the point is this. I sure what you're going to. Okay. The point is this. I think if you're an employer and you run a business and you're that guy like to use your story Pat that's just doing his business and doing his thing. You're in California and the tax man shows up and says 80 G's Pat pay up. Yeah. It's a pretty tough pill to swallow that's never happened to me running a business.
Starting point is 00:49:03 That's not that hasn't happened. Okay. And employee maybe doesn't ever have to deal with something like that. So what's my point, Bingo? Employers should try to have conversations with employees and say, here's why I vote this way. Here's why I have this perspective. I'm not talking about political.
Starting point is 00:49:22 We do that all the time. I know you do. But this is my advice to everyone else out there Here's what happens if I have to pay more in taxes or if the corporate tax rates go up I'm gonna have to lay six if you guys off and then employee might say oh shit I don't want to go back by the way and then employees a great point. Thank you and then employees This guy and then employees. This guy. And then employees. I'm actually being serious. It's a great point.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Thank you. And then employees might wanna ask their employers, hey, I noticed that you're a big Trump guy or you're a big, leave me the hell alone guy or you're a big low-tech. Why? Why? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I think that's an important conversation that happens. That's a very good point. We get so caught up on these little political things and this this and that let's not forget here circling back Gavin Newsom beat the shit out of his competition two out of three people in California said I don't know where we call the story you're right yeah yeah so rather than saying I think you just got to talk to the people that have different opinions and it's all I'm saying it's all up saying it's not only you just made George Carlin's argument against democracy.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Think about the most average intellect you know, the most average person you know, and then understand that half of the population is dumber than that, right? Think of the most average wealth person you know, the most average person you know, half the population is dumber than that. Part of the problem with democracy,
Starting point is 00:50:43 part of the problem, representative democracy, is that there is a very small percentage of intelligent people in the world and an even smaller percentage of intelligent people that can convert that in any sort of considerable wealth. Yeah and you can have a conversation about politics with your employer. It's impossible. I didn't say politics. Again, I'm saying tell me about the taxes. Tax't that don't have to be political
Starting point is 00:51:06 what happens if the taxes go up but but listen to you guys get fired you got to understand what's the alternative not talking to each other that makes no sense to me but what does it matter okay all this doesn't matter if it gets to a place where the the system is too rigged against choice even two choices if they get three point.5 trillion that goes all to their people and all to their political donations, then like Pat said, half of the business sector that may not agree with it, they have to get on board because that's the only way you're going to survive. You may say, hey, look, I hate these taxes, but if the only way as a construction guy I'm getting any money is to get tax dollars, guess where I'm going. So the power politics, the power of politics
Starting point is 00:51:48 becomes a leverage game and you get really, really, really close when you get outside that laffer curve, it becomes an exponential turn. And that's when things get really, really dangerous. I think most people are just either in the party or you're out of the party. And then we have the luxury of sitting here debating politics and nuance.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I don't think most people do this I think most people just wake up and say it's the famous powerful line. You know what that line is? What is never talk about religion and business and religion and politics and business such a it's such a It's such a manipulative line It's such a minute anybody out of the mat that is extremely intelligent or line. It's such a minute. Anybody out of the meds that is extremely intelligent or a reader, anybody I've met, their favorite things to talk about or debate is have to have the philosophical philosophy, religion, politics, the sex, some of course sports is a part of it. That's fun. But those are things I want to talk about. What do you think about this?
Starting point is 00:52:39 Oh, shit. Here we go. Right. I mean, I'm talking of, you know, somebody you have in a conversation. It's very common. By the way, we minutes to do and does anybody have any opinion on general millie we want to cover that okay so let's go through the sentence we got eight minutes left so general millie fear trump might launch nuclear attack made secret calls to china new book says u.s.a. today after math of january six attack on u.s. capital joint chief of staff chairman general mark mille then the former president trump's top military advisor took precautions to limit trump's
Starting point is 00:53:04 ability to launch a military strike where deploy nuclear weapons according to a new book by bob woodward who's always talking about the stuff and Robert cost at the uh... washington post in a rare move mille called the secret meeting of senior military officials at the pentagon on January 8 to review the process of military action including launching nuclear weapons the instructed those in charge of the national military commander senator pentagons war room not to take orders from anyone without his involvement. Millie also reassured Chinese general Lee, Zhucheng of the People's Libertarian Army that the US had no intention of launching an air strike against China. It was one of two secret phone calls shared
Starting point is 00:53:40 by Lee on the issue. Zener, thoughts. You know, it just goes to a Gerard's point that think of the average intelligence person you know, and assume that 50% of the people are dumber than that. If you believe this crap, you're an idiot. You're flat out idiot. If you think Donald Trump was thinking of a nuclear war on January 6th, who the hell was he gonna attack, New Jersey?
Starting point is 00:53:58 I mean, who would be in the crosshairs of an attack? You know, it's one thing if you don't like him, but you don't have to, you know, paint them as a buffoon or someone that would launch a nuclear weapon on his final week in office. It's meanwhile Eric Swalwell from California actually threatened nukes against the American citizens. Yeah, and you know, it's just so blatantly obvious that this is an end run to take the attention off Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I mean, you either have common sense or you don't. I'd like to think I have a little bit and that's the only way I see this story. By the way, some people on the opposing side are saying what an honorable thing to do, to take the responsible position to make the phone call to prevent him from doing what he did. Adam, what are your thoughts about this?
Starting point is 00:54:38 I think you can't have it both ways because we have two stories here on the list. One, based on this book, peril,el from Bob Woodward and Robert Costa. And if you don't know where Robert Costa is, the guy is a total G. He sat down there, he's interviewed Trump. Bob Woodward? Not Bob. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Correct. Obviously. We all know Woodward, but you don't have any no cost. So they're telling this story and then we have a story on the other page where basically they called out Biden about him calling out uh... mansion so you read the book actually read the story read the read the part with by told joe mansion to support is one point nine trillion corona by a stimulus
Starting point is 00:55:15 because if you don't come along you're really fucking me the book says that's what by the system and she's got to so you want me to keep going no you can go back to the point you were making the point is this so at tom says he doesn't believe it all right so do you believe this point though can't have you can't point it can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you can you was thinking of launching nuclear weapons on January 7. Sure, okay. We're both missing the big point. Are you saying you're thinking he was about to launch it? I don't think so. I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:55:50 I don't think he was about to. I do think that he was after the day he lost, or after the January 6th, I do think to use some of the words that they used, he was angry, erratic, emotional, potentially unstable and unpredictable. Was he nuking people? I don't think so. Speaking of track record, let's talk about one predictable in this case means not doing
Starting point is 00:56:13 what we want him to do. Because if you want to look at the parallels to your point, if you want to look at the parallels between the two stories, Joe Manchin is saying, no, I'm not giving you $3.5 trillion for one point. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's what it's back in March. This is not now. So what I'm saying is, but he's still saying no, I'm not giving you $3.5 trillion. No, this is not now. No, no, no, no, no. That's what's back in March. This is not now.
Starting point is 00:56:28 So what I'm saying is, but he's still saying no to $35. But it came out now, but this means, I get to listen to what we tell you to do. Also, guys, with all due respect, we're getting stuck in the minutiae here. This is the top general in the United States of America. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Going behind an elected official, duly elected official, going behind who represents the citizens of the United States. Well, not just law. Like, he didn't leave office. He was still a president. He was the president of the United States. And this guy's calling our number one,
Starting point is 00:56:52 you don't wanna use the word enemy, our number one competitor on a world scale, behind the back of the people. If a general did that to Biden, would you have an issue? If a general did that, if a general did that, that's absolutely not at all.
Starting point is 00:57:02 For general did that to Biden. Absolutely. Dude, that's, that's, lot of the do that's that's okay you can't make no no no by the way if a general did that to biden democrats would put that guy in his wife and his kids in jail for the rest of their life that's what are we doing here so this is the very evidence of a deep state this idea of the all the people here this is the very
Starting point is 00:57:18 evidence of that's a different spec yeah and it's shocking that the military is this involved how is this a matter of perspective was Was he, do you think there was a chance? Chance. Adam, using the word chance to our, the President, you think there was a chance and he was that erratic. He's the elected official. He was more worried about
Starting point is 00:57:33 he's the elected president. He's the elected president. He's the president. People can't hear him or scream it. Just so you know, do you think there was a chance that he was that erratic? No.
Starting point is 00:57:39 You don't think he was pretty stable? No, I think he was worried about getting kicked off Twitter. General's can just pick and choose when they want to talk to the enemy now. No, first of all, first of all, if a situation like that happens, the general makes one phone call. You don't call the enemy.
Starting point is 00:57:53 You don't ever call the enemy. Who does the general call? Dude, like, if there's 50,000 numbers on who to call, you know what the last number is to call? China. Yeah. What happened? Oh, I'm seeing it. We just lost 700 people.
Starting point is 00:58:07 We were at 4900. I think we were almost at 5G's. Do you think this is because of its emergency press conference or the time? We'll find out if we do it again. I think we got a sample of some other five-minute. Is it back up or no? No. No.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Should I end the tweet? That's so weird when it ended. That's really creepy. Okay, let's just finish it up with three minutes and it will wrap. That's so weird when it ended. That's really creepy. Okay, let's just finish it up with three minutes and it will wrap. That's crazy. We just lost 1200 people. Okay, so I so go back to it. Go back to it. So if there's 50,000 people not to call the to call the last person on the list of China. Why would you call China? I agree. Yeah, I was. You calling China. That's the point. What do you do? Well, now, now, let me explain to what could have been a different
Starting point is 00:58:48 thing to do. Here's what it could have been a different thing to do. He calls pens. Fine. I get it. He calls his wife. I get it. He calls his daughter. I get it. He calls Kelly and Conway. I get it. He calls anybody. He calls Kushner. fully get it. Those calls. Listen he calls Kushner, fully get it. Those calls, listen, Trump wants to lose his mind, but I understand those calls. This one phone call, I don't get.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And I don't support that one. Why do you think he made it? Why do you think he called Chuck? Could that happen? What's the reason behind it? It's because for him, he probably got a phone call from somebody saying, hey, if I'm gonna be president, my name is Biden, Biden called Millie to say, call China to say, don't worry, hey, if I'm going to be president, my name is Biden.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Biden called Millie to say, call China to say, don't worry, I'm not going to do anything to them. Well, it says here in the article something different. What? It says, Millie also reassured Chinese general Lee Zucheng that the people's liberation army, that the US had no intention of launching a strike
Starting point is 00:59:41 against China. It was one of two secret phone calls. So someone in China was probably like, dude, how erratic you see. No, no, no, it's not that just happening. You don't know what I just said. You don't know what I just said. You don't know what I just said.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Who cares what they think? No, no, no. I'm reading the article I'm telling you, somebody called Millie to tell Millie to call China. Millie didn't do this on the zone. I'm saying someone, I'm saying something.

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