PBD Podcast - “Exclusive Not Inclusive” - Russell Peters On Comedy, Joe Rogan, Woke Culture & Parenting | PBD Podcast | Ep. 454

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

Russell Peters sits down with Patrick Bet-David for a hilarious and heartfelt conversation. Known for his global stand-up performances and hit specials like "Outsourced" and "Red, White, and Brown," Peters delves into his journey in the entertainment industry, his insights on comedy, and his challenges as both a comedian and a father. ----- --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

At one point, Russell Peters was the highest paid comedian in the world in 2013. The guys made career earnings $75 million, got hundreds of millions of views online. You've laughed at many of his clips that have gone viral. I definitely have. I asked him a bunch of different questions. How much for somebody that's family, how much has India changed the last 20, 30 years? More money floating around, nicer cars. I mean, the poverty is still there. Obviously

it's not going away, but the rich have certainly gotten richer. About the times he met with all these kings, dinner with the king of Jordan, what was that like? What's the craziest gift they gave him? I told him a unique story about a gift Arnold Palmer got once to golf her. And then we talked about his daughter living in California, his 13-year-old daughter that came up to him at 11 years old with a very interesting story. At 11, she wanted to be a boy. I was like, baby, you're not a boy.

You're not even remotely tomboy. You're very girlish. You're joking. Do you lose sleep over this? Does this bother you at all or not really? No, because I don't believe it. Most guys can't say what you just said. You lost two people due to economy.

Don't tell me I didn't do anything for my people. I opened a complete industry for them. I'm good with Hurricane Jose. It's not the first Hispanic to blow me. Ha ha. See, that's the gift. That's the gift that just comes like this. Anyways, we had such a good time

that the entire podcast, after it was done, laughing, cracking up, went to the house, we had dinner at Casa D'Angelo, then went out, had a cigar, had two cigars, went to the lounge. But I hope you enjoy this next podcast as much as I did. I laughed. We had great conversations, we had exchanges, but I hope you enjoy this podcast with Russell Peters. So listen, I wish the last 12 minutes was recorded because the podcast started way before everybody was ready. We've been laughing our asses off. I knew this guy was funny.

I didn't know he spoke Assyrian. He's got a few Assyrian words. Right off the bat, it was Farsi. He just did Armenian. I mean, this is a guy that if you follow comedy, I've been watching this guy for God knows how long, very wealthy guy. He made a lot of money. He's made a lot of money.

Matter of fact, if you need a loan, we're going to put a link below to the bank of Russell Peters for you guys to reach out at a 40% interest rate with a great credit score. He'd consider it. But there's a lot we can say about him. You've seen him. You've seen him do a bunch of different things. Russell, it's great to have you on, man. Thanks, PBD. Yes. Peanut butter and David. You've seen him. You've seen him do a bunch of different things Russell is great to have you on man Thanks PBD. Yes peanut butter and David peanut butter and David

You know the first time I had PBJ my wife made it because her name is Jennifer, right? I've never had PBJ before somebody says so are you guys ever gonna date or no? I said when we get back we'll figure out something out then she made me peanut butter jelly I'd never had it here. Did you like it 30 years old was good first one I ever had You know, it's funny is I I don't like peanut butter and I like peanut butter. Yeah she made me peanut butter jelly. I'd never had it here. Did you like it? 30 years old, it was good. First one I ever had. You know what's funny is I don't like peanut butter. I like peanut butter. Yeah. I don't like peanut butter and jelly.

You don't like it? It's too much. Too much going on for me. My kids like it. Remember, my wife is white. What? So PBJ. I gotta go guys, this podcast is so wrong.

I know, I don't want to say it right off the bat. I want to say it right off the, but what I like about you is, that's interesting is you don't discriminate, okay? Armenians you're okay with? You've had your fair share of Armenian experience? I have had it. It was a good experience.

Was it? It was a good experience. Is there any like a disclaimer about the cost of living when you date an Armenian or is it relatively the same? Because I have as well, I'm just wondering from somebody with experience. The Armenian I was with, no, she was very easy to deal with. She was not a problem. I was the problem, if anything. You were. Okay. And then you have Honduras as well, apparently. That was Miss Universe. Yeah, well, yeah, my son's mother. She's a Jennifer as well. She's a Jennifer as well. Yeah, she she was miss Honduras miss Honduras in Miss Universe in 2012

Now but this is pre Modern-day Miss Universe you got a question So you were you're part of the safe era of Miss Universe and miss miss it 2012 I think no they hadn't they hadn't gone too safe yet Really? I think maybe a couple years out But I remember her telling me about meeting Donald Trump and said he was very nice and very respectful I guess what I'm talking about is nowadays. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, I know what you mean Like you have to you have to check now. Yeah. Yeah, you're part of the safe community

It's like that story of the guy who throws a Viagra in a girl's drink to if she gets an erection then she's not the one for him And she's not the one for him. Hey, how you feeling? I don't know man. I'm kind of excited right now. Yeah, you know, it's funny When I was in the army one of my friends Bradford He says going to Brazil. Mm-hmm. I say it's his dream. So he saves this money. He's gonna go to Brazil in army You don't have a lot of money. So you say five ten thousand dollars go to Brazil. I said, how was it? He says man, it was great. But one night I met this girl. She was dropped at gorgeous. I said, what happened? He says, I mean we went back to her place I we got almost into a fistfight. Why? Because it wasn't a girl.

But it was so flawless that he couldn't tell the difference. The last time he ever went to Brazil, by the way. You see, I've always been scared to go to Brazil. Yeah, because it's two things I love the most in this world. Jiu-jitsu and fat asses. And so I would come back with a black belt and HIV. If you went to Brazil. Have you performed in Brazil? No, no. You're joking.

No, my jujitsu teacher came like, boy, take it to Brazil with me. Boy. Like your driver out there. 40 countries, OK? You've toured, I think. I saw 40 plus countries. I've actually never kept the stats or paid attention to them. I just, you know, when you're in it, when you're in the tornado, you don't know what's happening. You're just trying to get out. I'm not trying to get out, but you're trying

to survive through it, you know? What do you think it is? Is it over 20? Is it over 30? It's got to be. Definitely over that. 40 is fair, I think, at least. I don't think it sounds low even. It's definitely over 40 is fair I think is a 40 at least. I think it sounds low even but. When's the last time you went on a full-blown tour? It just ended in March. What places did you go to? This last leg was geez, I can't even remember. It was Middle East and India. Middle East? Yeah. Any stops at Gaza, Tehran, Tel Aviv, anything like that or? No, no, no. I went to but I was close. I was in Egypt and I just typed in Gaza on my Google Maps and it was like, I could see it on the map. Oh shit, it's right there.

So, and that was like in... Close as you've been. That's impressive. That's close. I don't need to get any closer to that. And, you know, who knows when the hoodie is going to do something. So I... Yeah, you got to be ready for it.

You saw what happened yesterday with Iran with the Hamas leader got assassinated in Iran I don't know if you saw that I saw that I read that yeah so I'll give you a crazy story I've never told the story four weeks ago I had a zoom with the former president of Iran Ahmadinejad I don't know when they used to wear the members only jackets members only jacket yeah I think that's the one you're talking about that's the guy the little guy with the beard. Yeah He looked like a uber driver. He did look like an uber driver, but this is him if that's who you're talking about Yeah, so we had a zoom together two weeks later three weeks later There's an assassination attempt on him which happened like last week

And I'm supposed to go to Iran to interview him and they call me and they say it's probably not a good idea for you to come to Iran to do an interview and My wife agreed and my family agreed and we're probably just met you and I agree. Yeah. Well, that's I appreciate the love I mean, it's a lot of respect and love from you by the way all these places you perform comedy Who's the easiest audience to please who is the toughest audience to please? Who is the most sensitive audience that you walk on eggshells? Um, well, the ease I would never say that anybody's easy because it's up to you to make it easy, right? They're already there to see you. So that's the easy part. Now the

pressure is back on me. Am I going to do this? Right? Am I going to? My goal is always like, if I do a show for you, if you come to see me, I want you to want to come and see me again, whether it's the same show or a different show, but I want you to be like, we had a good time, I want to go back and see that again, see what he's doing now. So that's always my goal. So every, no audience is easy per se, but some are, like Singapore's great.

You know, I go to Singapore, but I'll never phone it in for any of these places, even if I consider them easy. Is there one where you're like, okay, these guys are going to be super sensitive, let me be careful with these guys when I say XYZ? Or is that like a, because you're pretty, you're solid, you're very consistent, you don't hit a lot of topics that, you know, are going to really piss a lot of people off. You have fun with it, you come in from a different place. It's always about just putting the light. It's always about putting the light on

on the elephant in the room basically. It's like, well, guys, we're all here. We know what's happening. Let's just talk about it a little bit. Just not even talk about it. Let's just dissect it a little bit just to see what happens. Russell, for you, right now, you know,

the last, when I'm asking guys about comedy, and you know, your name comes up, and I go watch your stuff, and I'm like, I remember that, I remember this, I remember that. Like, everything I see of you now, I pretty much remember seeing because I laughed my ass off going through the, you know, the search we do as fans watching professionals

like you. Russell Peters, go to filters, views, go to the top, start from the most viewed and you work your way down. That's what I do as a fan and one by one by I'm like, I remember that. I remember this. In the 80s, it was a full bush, then it was a landing strip, then it was bald, now it's boom, you got the guy, you're right. You're seeing all this stuff.

And then when I talk to some of the guys in the industry, they say, yeah, Russell, you know, just all of a sudden slow down. You know, he still makes people laugh. He's still, everybody loves him. There is no controversy with you. There is nothing like, well, because of what happened with this and what happened with that, you just kind of like, are you at a phase where you're just chilling, having a good time, you don't feel like you want to drive as hard as you did before? No, I still drive as hard as I used to. I mean, it's 35 years.

Listen, here's the thing, because you're not going to stay on top forever. It's just impossible. It's one of those, especially in comedy, maybe in businesses you can, but there's going to be somebody new brighter new ideas, prettier face, whatever the deal is and that's fair. That's just the way this is the cycle of life. But I've had a long run and I'm still going and I mean like, yeah, sure, you don't see me on a lot of things anymore, but that's more because of me. I don't really, you wanna do this?

Not really. That's what I'm saying. So why? Well, no, because now I start to look at things like, like, is it worth my time? Right. And it's not about, you know, thinking that's not worth my time. But it's like, I have so much less time now, that I'm like, things got to make sense for me. Like this podcast, I've been wanting to do for a long time. Because I've been watching you for a few years now. I started watching you during the pandemic

and I was getting some great financial advice that I could do nothing with, but I was getting some great financial advice. It's nice when a rich guy tells you about how to make money, you're like, all right, motherfucker, we know you're rich already, all right? You got money as well, man. I don't, that's the problem.

If I did, I wouldn't be on the tour as hard as I was. I got the IRS is what I got. Didn't you make like 21 million one year and you're on the list of top 50, 75 million net worth. I've grossed these numbers. You know what I mean? I've grossed these numbers, but it's not like a regular business

where if you gross that number, you're gonna get something close to that number. Once you gross it in comedy or entertainment or whatever, let's just say this, you get 25, cut it in it in half fit 12 12.5 not in the government already right okay now you got your manager your agent they're taking 10 each but off of each 10% each yeah off of the 25 out of 10 million not the 20 not off the 20 seven and a half million right and then you got your accountant who's taking maybe 5%. By the time it's done, you're like,

I barely cleared six million dollars. I mean, it's still a great number, but it's nowhere near what you had in the beginning. Yeah, but I mean, how many guys make 25 in a year to be able to net six million? So if a great comedian's making five million a year, most of these guys live in New York or they live in California. Now Rogan obviously created a new revolution where Austin's becoming a comedy town to be and you're saving your 13.3% whatever. Joe's the Pied Piper of comedy.

Right. He is that guy now, right? Yeah, absolutely. How long has he been that guy in this space? Well, listen, I started doing Joe's podcast when it was in his house. It was in his house in Bell Canyon or something like that, out there in California. And the room itself was tiny. It was like, you know, it's smaller than, if you put a wall here, it'd be smaller than that space. It was like, it was just a tiny little box

right beside his garage. It would be me, him, and Red Band. It and was on you stream and I would go do it there and I did every iteration of his podcast wherever he moved it to every time and So this wasn't his overnight success is not overnight But is he ahead of the game and is he very fucking he's really smart Really intelligent and very well read and open to changes and open to ideas. Yes He's all of those things. And they'll paint him to be whatever they want him to be.

He's this, he's that. I've met people who don't know him like, oh, he's such a, he's not at all like that. He's this, he's definitely not like that. And when they started calling him racist, I was one of the first people to go defend him. I remember that. Because he's just not.

You have to be stupid to be a racist, I think. A certain amount of ignorance has to get involved with that. When's the first time you met Joe? I met Joe maybe about 15, 16 years ago. 15, 16 years ago. He was just, UFC had been around for a few years. His podcast is going.

No podcast hasn't started yet. When did Joe start the podcast? So you met him pre podcast. He started in 2010 I think. And I started doing it in 2010. Got it. So pre that. So when you meet all these comedians, all these guys, what made Joe different than everybody else?

Well, I used to box, amateur as a kid. And I did a little jujitsu back in the day. And I started doing it back again now. And so Joe and I started doing it back again now. And so Joe and I connected on the combat sports. Because we're the same guy in that we don't like team sports. He may, I don't know, I don't like team sports at all.

So that's just too much for me to watch. I got ADD, why do you need 15 people to catch one ball? Just like one, you catch the ball and you chase that guy. I asked him, I said, do you follow any sports? Nope, no sports, nothing. Yeah, he's right. He's just purely. So okay, so pot started when?

2009? 2009, no. Brian Redband. Yeah, Redband started it. Okay, so, but what made him different? What made him different than everybody else? For him to keep continuing to rise and now it's no longer he's a comedian. It's no longer. He's the UFC announcer It's no longer. It's it's what does Joe have to say about XYZ?

The world wants to know what Joe has to say Did you see that evolution taking place like did you at the beginning said this guy's gonna blow up in this what's gonna happen? I did I didn't see any of that coming. I thought it would be you know, I knew it'd be successful because he's a very very hard worker He's very diligent. But I think we live in, I talked about this with him on one of his podcasts once, that people are waiting for people to tell them how to think nowadays. People are waiting to, people are programmable now and they're waiting to be programmed by people.

And their thoughts and their opinions are being swayed by who's the most believable person to tell me this information. And because Joe's a comic, Joe is also a no bullshit artist. He'll call bullshit on whatever needs to be called on. And most people don't do that for fear of whatever backlash they may get. But when you're a comic, you have the freedom of speech. And that's what we're always trying to defend,

is like, do you like what this person said? No, but that's their right to say it. And that's what we need to maintain, you know, especially in this country. And we're getting to a weird place where you can't say certain things now. And I'm like, how is that fucking helping us? Yeah, well, I mean, you're from Canada,

now you live in LA, right? Is that- 18 years. 18 years in LA. Yeah, well, I mean, you're from Canada, now you live in LA, right? 18 years. 18 years in LA. And yeah. And you bought Robert Kardashian's old house, if I'm not mistaken. I did, it's for sale right now if anybody wants to buy it. In Encino, yeah, Encino, 5.6 million,

as I think I saw when you bought it. When I bought it, yeah. When you did buy it, did you ever like go in the backyard and you said, look, let me see if I can, because you know, OJ had been there and a lot of people. Well, that's where the chase started. That's exactly what I'm saying. So did you ever go in there looking for gloves,

or looking for backpacks and briefcases? The guy who sold me the house is the developer, so he bought the original house and tore it down. He said he found some wacky stuff. Did he? Did he tell you what or not? He didn't find any gloves or backpacks, but there was rooms that were hidden,

you know what I mean, like a dungeon room kind of thing. Yeah, he said, he goes, I pushed this wall out and it was a fucking dungeon back there. And I was like, really? He was like, yeah. Robert, dungeon room? Hey man, you know. Wow. Who knows what guys are into.

I mean, it is what it is. Yeah. So did he say anything else? Did he find any other sex tapes? No, he was looking for all that. He was hoping to find all that. Got it. Listen, there's a lot of stories.

You ever seen the video clip of when Robert goes in and goes into the house, puts up the stuff in the briefcase and walks out and nobody, you ever seen that clip? Yeah, he walks in and walks out. Walks in and walks out, what do you have? Nah, nothing, I'm just grabbing some basic stuff and because he was Robert, nobody sent anything to him. And he's a lawyer.

Have you seen this clip, Rob? Can you find this clip? He just walks in. Did you ever meet him? Did you ever... No, no. He died. When did he die?

I know, he died. He died a while back, but you've been... I've met Chloe and Courtney, but I've never met Kim. You met Chloe and Courtney. How would they never met Kim. You met Chloe and Courtney? How would they want to say? They were very nice. No, they didn't know who I was. Get out of here.

No, it's funny because I'm friends with Tristan Thompson, because he's from my hometown, Brampton, in Canada. And I was at this birthday party and Chloe and Courtney were there. So I texted Tristan, I go, you and your baby mama okay? He's like, yeah. I go, I'm at a party. And then he goes, go say hi. I said, all right, so I went over, I go, hey, I'm friends with Tristan.

She goes, oh, hi, nice to meet you. They were very nice. I can't say anything bad. They were very sweet, very nice. I guess that's why they're where they're at, because they know how to play the game. Even if they don't like you, they'll be nice. That didn't even give me a reason to not like me, but.

They're professionals. Yeah, they'll be nice. I mean, that didn't even give me a reason to not like me, but you know. They're professionals. Yeah, they know what they're doing. The way they got up and nowadays. Well, in all fairness, it's the way Ray J got up. Yeah, well, he got up, apparently he got up pretty big, is what he got up. I mean, it was impressive. It was impressive.

Some rumors have it that. I like that you act like you've never seen the video, fucking pervert. The middle name is not Bet, it's pervert. It's pervert, Bet David's contrast. Listen man, I've had many, many Indian friends and they're qualified perverts as well. Just so let you know.

Listen, there's a reason we're the largest population in the world. It's not by accident, guys. So you know, I went to India once to speak at IIT Institute, the whole, in Mumbai. I'm sure you're familiar with IITs. I'm not. You're not, IITs like they're MIT, right? And really enjoyed it.

Went in there, got the food, stayed at the hotel, walked around, met a bunch of different people, went to the slums, went to that big house that the billionaire built, the 1.4 billion dollar house that goes all the way up, weirdest looking thing. It's the 56 story apartment building. But it's right next to the slums. Well everything's kinda next to the slums over there.

Yeah, so how often do you perform in India nowadays I think every three years maybe I hadn't this I just when I did it this year was my first time back in five years what's the reception like they're all was really great to me you know it's funny though because like I'm watching I'm watching the tide shift now you know I mean it's like the older like the generation that grew up on me still shows up for me, which I really love and appreciate. And the younger generation now, they're like all sensitive. They're all the Gen Z weirdos.

That's what I was asking, like is there a sensitivity? No, the young kids would be like commenting on my page, like how is this funny? All he does is mock people. I'm like, shut the fuck up. You know, you don't do anything for Indians. I go, really? Look at all the fucking, I was the first one motherfucker.

You should have been there too. Don't tell me I didn't do anything for my people. I opened a complete industry for them. What is it like? What is it like when you perform with them though? I mean, look, you go up there. Listen, India, they're so sharp. Like they, it's one of the countries where I always say,

I'm always blown away with how I don't change my words I don't change my pacing and nothing. I just do it the way I do it and they're with me the whole way They're not like, oh, what did he say? I didn't get that They're sharp as hell and there's a reason they're about to be the one of the major superpowers in the next five years Yeah, you saw the whole thing with Tim Cook is slowly You saw the whole thing with Tim Cook slowly trying to move the production of the iPhone from China to India and that's a slow move and China's not happy about it. I don't know if you can pull up some numbers there Rob of what move they've made. It's a big portion.

I think a quarter of it right now is being made in India. There you go. The company aims to make 25% of its iPhone production in India by 2025 as it seeks to diversify its supply chain and reduce reliance on China. How much for somebody that's family- How much has India changed the last 20, 30 years? I can tell you India has changed in the last five years since I was there. When I went back this March, I was blown away with how different it was. In what way?

New buildings, more money floating around, nicer cars. The poverty is still there. Obviously, it's not going away, but the rich have certainly gotten richer. But there's way more millionaires now and billionaires. So Bombay has changed completely. Bangalore had changed. Delhi has changed. But when I went to Calcutta, where my mom is from, I felt good to, I mean, maybe it's a selfish reason, but I felt good to

see that it hadn't changed at all. Because it's kind of like, you know, there's all those memories you have from growing up and going there as a kid and, and just seeing the sights, sounds and smells. And it was like, okay, okay good India's still India over here. Did you remember the book that came out years ago I think was like Tiger Mother or something like that? Tiger Mom? The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother you know this girl is explaining about what it was like to have an Asian mom and you know people come I can't believe that's how hard it was

it's that's not the right way to raise your kids. I want to give you some data and some props to your community because there's a lot of a lot of respect there So the highest earning ethnic group in America in the UK Indians number one $119,000 average annual income Taiwanese number two then it's Chinese then Japanese and Pakistani Filipino and Indonesian Korean I'm a little upset with this list because I don't see any Armenian Assyrian or Persian I was no one of them. No because credit card frauds illegal and Or Armenian insurance fraud I mean you gotta hit a lot of them. There's a lot of them. There's a lot of them

Listen, I know the I know these guys very well. Yeah, I know all the Hovigs and Sarkis a lot of them. Listen, I know these guys very well. I know all the Hovigs and Sarkis's and the Yakobs and the Hovannes and I know them all. What is it like being raised in an Indian family? Like what are some weird things like, you know, you hear stories, whether it's the discipline, you better grow up to be an engineer, you better grow up to do this. What is it like? So for me, so the type of Indian my family is we're when any people meet me. They're good. What are you? Are you this? Are you that I'm like, how well do you know Indian history like pretty good and I go Do you know about Anglo Indians ago, huh? And I go you don't know shit about Indian history then we're products of the British being there my my my bloodline and

So we're basically half breeds that, and the same half breed kept marrying the same half breed over and over. Not related, but you know. A little bit of incest going on, but I get it. It's totally fine. We're not like that. We're like, eh, too close.

We'll go try that one. Arranged marriage is not located. No, none of that. Your cousin is really pretty. Yeah, no, that's. That's the one for you. Yeah, no, no. You not like that, Russell?

None of that, no, none of that. Our culturally, growing up, we were more British, even in India. You don't like that, Russell? None of that. No, none of that. Our culturally, growing up, we were more British, even in India. So when I would go to India as a kid, everybody spoke English in my grandmother's house and everything was kind of normal to me. Then when I'd go outside and I'd meet the regular Indian kids and I didn't know the difference, but I was like, oh, you guys don't do this? That's weird.

Okay, man, it must be just us. And so Anglo Indians are like, historically, entertainers, cooks, it must be just us. And so Anglo-Indians are like historically entertainers, cooks, chefs. And then when the British were still in India, we got all the government jobs, police, fire, railway, all that kind of stuff. So we were scattered all over the country. There's no one place for us in India.

So growing up, because there's no professionals in my family, there was no pressure to do anything extraordinary. My parents were shooting for mediocrity. Really? Stand the rule, we're low. Grow up and be a comedian. No, not even that. There wasn't even a thought then.

But it was just like, just get a regular job with a pension. Literally, you're not joking. No. My mom worked in Kmart. My dad worked in a meatpacking plant. Mommy, first when I came to America, Kmart was a big deal. Yeah, but my mom didn't work in head office. She worked in the cafeteria. Got you. You know what I mean? Got when I came to America, Kmart was a big deal. Yeah, but my mom didn't work in head office. She worked in the cafeteria.

Got you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Got it. So financial literacy was never something I learned, and hence why. I did dumb things when I got money, because I had nobody guiding me with that. What's the dumbest thing you did when you got money? Shaq talks about when he got money, he went about three Rolls Royce or something like that.

Yeah, I did dumb things like that. Yeah. Not three, because I didn't have Shaq money. But he needed three to glue together so he could have one to fit him. Right, well he needed two, one for each foot. You remember the first time you met Shaq? You know what's funny is I could say I'm friends with Shaq, but we've actually never met. But we've spoken on FaceTime a bunch Okay, the first time you meet him

um I brought him to an event my kids hadn't meet him. My my Shaq and my Youngest son they FaceTime. He's 10 years old. They they hit it off When I did the interview with Shaq if he can pull up Shaq and uh, but david uh the interview it's it's uh That that one right there and just go to the middle of it, right there. Look at the puzzle right there.

So that's me, Dylan decides to sit on my lap because Dylan and Shaq hit it off backstage. Shaq says, hey, I want Dylan to be here. He says throughout the entire interview, first time my kids see Shaq, I mean, you go like this, you're like, this cannot be real right size 24 shoes I'll tell you a funny story about that. I was on FaceTime with Shaq. Yeah, cuz this is one of his best friends

Chicago was a good friend of mine. So I talked to Shaq and I go, you know Shaq when my dad was alive He always said that he wanted a pair of your shoes to keep at the front door in case somebody broke into the house They would see those shoes and leave. Right? And we laughed. And then a week later, one of his shoes showed up in my house. He mailed me one.

That's kind of guy he is though. He's a sweet guy, he's a thoughtful guy, and he pays attention. Yeah, he is. He is sweeter behind closed doors than maybe on camera. When you see him, you're like, one of the things that Kobe said about Shaq, he says the thing about Shaq is, Shaq is not just a big guy that's a pushover, he's a big guy that will fight you. He's got the teddy bear side, but if you cross him, he has no problem fighting. He was one of the funnest guys to watch. Yeah, so going back, you were saying you made the money, you made some of those decisions,

your family, you know, the expectation wasn't high, mom worked at Kmart, all this stuff. But people knew you were funny very early on. I mean, there was, you knew like, I think I read a story like early 90s or mid 90s, something happened where, you know, like this guy can do something with the comedy. And then later on your story with George Carlin and then he invites you back 15 years later. Maybe tell us how the story. Yeah, yeah, because those were weird strokes. Okay, I started doing stand-up in 89.

1992, George Carlin was always my idol, always. George and Eddie Murphy, basically, the two top guys for me. And so, 1992, the Blue Jays win the World Series. Everybody's driving up and down. Joe Carter. Joe Carter. Everybody's driving up and down Young Street in Toronto.

Yep. And we're partying. You know, not partying, but like screaming, making noise, honking horns, driving slow. And I'm walking beside my friend's car. That's how slow it was going. And I see this old guy with a beard, a white beard and a ponytail walking towards me. And I elbow my friend and go, ha, that guy looks like George Carlin, thinking of being a smartass.

And when he walks past me, just to be a smart ass kid, I go, how you doing, George? And he goes, how you doing, kid? And I was like, what the fuck? You're joking. And I was like, what? And I ran after him. And I groveled and walked him back to his hotel.

You're 22 years old at this time. Yeah, 22 years old. I'm doing standup three years at this time. What's he doing in Toronto? I said exactly what I said to him. I said, what are you doing in Toronto? He goes, I shouldn't be here. He never really answered the question,

but maybe he went to the game, I don't know. You know, I think he was a big baseball fan, so he might've gone. But I just fell out of myself. I couldn't tell him everything about my life enough. How long did you have with him? I had maybe like an eight minute walk with him. That's plenty, are you kidding me?

And I was telling him, man, and he was asking for advice, and he was giving me some great advice. That really helped me. What did he say? He said, get on stage as much as you can. I read that. Every day, anywhere you are, if you're at a bar

and there's a band playing, they take a break, ask if you could do five minutes. Doesn't matter if you kill or bomb, just go do it. The more you do it, the more you understand it. And killing and bombing are the same thing as far as he's concerned. You kill, you don't learn much. You bomb, you learn a lot. But they both feel like something.

So then you cut to 2008. When did he pass? 2008, right? Yep. Yeah. So about 10 months before that. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, not even 10 months. Maybe about eight months before he passed away. I got a call from the Comedy Magic Club in Hermosa Beach. And they're like, hey, George is coming in this weekend to run his new set. And we know you're a big fan. Do you want to be on the show?

And I'm like, absolutely. And they said, OK, great. You can open for him. I go, who's hosting? And they said, we got somebody. I go, I would love to host because I would love to introduce him. And they said, no problem.

They moved it so that I host. Get out of here. So I introduced him. I started filling up with tears, and my chin started quivering. I was like, oh, shit. Am I going to fucking cry in front of George Carlin right now? Did you or no? No, no, no.

I cried in front of Norman Lear, though. It's so weird. I won't cry if you die, but I'll cry if something. If I meet you and I'm excited, all my happy memories come back. I'm dyslexic with my emotions. Somebody dies. I feel bad, but I don't shed a tear But if something good happens and more likely to cry, so how was it when you introduce him? What was the experience like I told the story about when I met him and blah blah blah Yeah, you know and then I said, you know and I even in 92

I said them the last thing I said him was hey George Maybe we'll work together one day and he said you never know kid. It's a crazy business and There we were eight months before he passed away. Eight months later, and who else was at that event? I don't care. I don't even remember, I just knew that it was me and George that night. Was that it?

Like was that when, in 08, when you hosted, was that where the breakthrough came or not yet? No, I'd already broken through. That's why I was already. Are you like, wait, what kind of money are you making? I'm making a few million dollars a year. Oh, no shit. Yeah, I was already doing arenas. Okay.

I was already doing arenas that by that time. But you were number one in 13 though. You're on top of the world in 20. Yeah, I'd still, you know, I started doing arenas in 2007. And so here we are 17 years later, I'm still doing arenas. So and somebody says, oh, I don't know what he's doing now. I go, fucking 16,000 people still.

So maybe I'm doing okay. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, maybe I'm not on your mainstream media, but that they don't like what I say. You know, they're so scared America is so scared of race, that even if you talk about it in the only people who like, if when I make a joke about, you know, Armenians, Asians Assyrians or Persians or whatever they all like it because they know that it's coming from a place of I acknowledge you and I know a little bit about you. And I'm not giving like the dumb broad strokes. You know I'm giving you the inside little throw a little bit of inside detail so you

know okay he gets it. You know but the man the the powers that be don't understand shit about the rest of the world They're just so focused on we kind of make sure nobody's feelings are her Well, you have feelings are gonna get hurt in life and they should get hurt in life Otherwise, you're not gonna understand pain properly And when did you see that flip happen at where it was like sensitivity went higher what four years ago? Covet I think definitely definitely started just before kovat I think what started with the Me Too stuff.

And then it just spun out into the other stuff from there. And it's not getting better. It's become more commonplace now so people don't pay attention to it as much. But it's always there. And it's annoying because it's unrealistic. It's about inclusion. But it's definitely not about inclusion. It's about inclusion, but it's definitely not about inclusion. It's about being exclusively exclusive.

You're not including everybody. If you, like if I say to you blah, blah, blah about me, and you have to accept that, and you don't, now I have to accept that you don't accept it. That's what inclusion is. We have now included ourselves together. You don't like what I'm saying, I don't like what you're saying, but we've accepted it, which means now it's inclusive.

And when you get to the point where like, oh, you don't agree with me, you're done. Well, then it's not inclusive anymore. You're fucking being exclusive. You think after the Brady roast, where everything was kind of on the table and it was great, right? Do you think that's kind of like bringing it back or it's not fully back yet? No, it's bringing it back.

And here's the thing, it shows you that people are fed up with bullshit. Right. You cannot have this tiny, tiny percentage of the population control what the majority's doing. That's just not how society should work. And it doesn't mean that we should negate that tiny percent of the population, but they shouldn't have as much say as they should.

They do though. I mean, they got a lot of say right now. Did you watch the Olympics opening? I saw your part about it. What did you think about it? I mean, for me it's funny. I'm an atheist, so for me it was funny. I'm like, that's good, that's funny, I guess you're taking a shot at that. And it's funny. I'm an atheist, so for me it was funny. I'm like, that's good, that's funny. I guess you're taking a shot at that. And it's funny, you know. But I don't understand what the Last Supper thing was about because it has nothing to do with the Olympics. It has nothing to do with the Olympics.

It has nothing to do with eating or anything. It has, you know, it just, I don't understand what it's about. How old are your kids? 13 and five. Are you okay if they see stuff like this? Like look at the picture to the left, there's something hanging out of his shorts. Oh I see that, yeah, that's nuts.

I don't know what that, that's nuts. That's nuts. Yeah, I mean, where do they get the balls to put this on? That's right, seriously. But do you think, do you think as, even as a comic, this is a part that you can give a different angle? Again, I don't see how any of this has anything to do with the Olympics. Like, and if you look, there's one non-white face there, one black girl, that's it. So, what are you trying to tell us?

This is supposed to be the whole world and you're not representing the whole world. You're not even representing part of the world at this point. Did you? It didn't outrage me or anything, it just kind of made me go, oh, it was a dumb decision. As an atheist yourself, you don't believe in God, you're an atheist, right? As an atheist, are you like, yeah, I don't give a shit if my kids see this? I mean, if they see it and they have questions, it's different, but if they see it, like, it's not going to register to them. But that's the problem now, is that they're subliminally

putting things out there now so that it becomes normal place to you. And that's fine too, but it's up to you as a parent to steer them to the where, where either where you want them to be, or where you think they should be. And again, like, you know, if your kid comes out and says something to you about blah, blah, blah, you have to figure out, well, how am I going to deal with this? Because is this, I'm gonna die and this person's gonna be left here with these confused emotions and confused feelings. My daughter, she's 13, gonna be 14,

but she's gone through all of this shit because of the stuff they see on the internet. At 11, she wanted to be a boy. I was like, baby, you're not a boy. You're not even remotely tomboy. You're very girlish you're joking no no at 11 she says she wanted to be a boy does she live with you no she lives with her mother but she's with me a lot but here's the thing she lives with

Jennifer no no that's that's my that's my son's mother my daughter was with her mother I know I know I called you a cuscash but really it's me don't google the meaning of it unless if you're running. Go ahead. Then you don't need to. So my daughter at 11, because of all the confusion, 10, 11, all the confusion that they're getting fed on the internet, said she wanted to be a boy. And then... She tells you this.

Tells me this. And then I'm like, you're not, baby. I go, I said, listen, if you were, I would say yes, I understand. But I know you're not. And I don't know where you get this information from but it's not good For you. I said right now you're doing Basic math you should be doing plus and minus You're trying to do algebra

Wait till you get older and if that algebra problem still there then we'll discuss it then and then at 12 She says she's gay No longer wants to be a boy. I'm like great She says she's gay, no longer wants to be a boy. I'm like, great. This is great, she's gay. I'm good with that. Because the less penis is the better, as far as I'm concerned.

And now she says she likes both. And so I think it's coming around where she's gonna be straight by the end of it all. But you know the thing is, there's a stigma attached to being a straight human now. Like there's something wrong with you if you just tend to just drift towards vaginas or penises, you know what I mean? And it's a weird time for that. Russell, let me ask you. So when she came up to you at 11, she wants to be a boy,

then she likes girls, then she's bi, at... now she's bi, by the end of it you're thinking she's going to want boys, okay, she's going through it. Are you and the mother on the same page while she's going through this or are you guys on a different page? No, we're working together on it. We work together on it. You are.

However, there was things that happened during that time that I was like, why did you let that happen? Why would you encourage that and? And I even told my daughter you're in this is not these are not these are not decisions that can be reversed So we're not gonna do that You told the mom or you told her both of them and what did the mom the mom she agreed with me on? Okay, but then you know There was a time where I noticed my daughter was wearing a very tight bra like a binding bra There was a time where I noticed my daughter was wearing a very tight bra, like a binding bra.

And I was like, that's, I said, do not let her wear that ever again, because she's just a baby. She doesn't know what she's doing. And let her grow, and you know, if she gets, once cuts them off later, that's fine. But don't fight nature, you cannot fight nature. Do you lose sleep over this?

Does this bother you at all or not really? No, because I don't believe it. You don't believe what? What's going on, like with my, you're talking about with my kids or in real life? Yeah, no, specifically with my kids. No, it doesn't really, there's other things that keep me up at night from them, but not that stuff. Really? Because it's, I know it's not real. I know it's just, it's hyperbole that she's hearing all day from the internet and all these weird, there's so many avenues that kids can get different information from now.

Like my son's five and he's an amazingly sharp kid. And he's very charming, he's very handsome, and he's very, very funny and he's not shy at all. But he says things now that I go, where the hell did you hear that? Like we were in New York the other day literally the other day I'm taking him through Central Park on one of those bicycle rides me and him and there's a horse and buggy coming up And I go hey baby

Look a horse is coming up and as we pass the horse my son out of nowhere just goes fucking sexy I go what where did you get that five years old five years I go, you could say sexy, but that other part, we're not saying that now. I mean, eventually you will. You're going to say it a lot, too. You're going to be worse than your father probably. But right now, we're not saying that word. I don't want to make them feel weird about it

and be like, don't do that. We're telling those things like, ooh, I got a little ammo in my pocket and I know how to piss off dad. I made it a little bit more like, no, we don't say that one, baby, just the other half. So yesterday my kids are here, my 10-year-old and my 8-year-old, and they're going around, they find this little, what do you call this? The stress ball?

Not the stress ball, the thing that says things when you squeeze it. Like, remember the staples back in the days you would press and it says stop that, stop that or whatever it is. So this one says, bullshit, or whatever it says, right? I come home, I notice my three-year-old daughter, she comes up to me, I'm hugging her to go to sleep, she says, Daddy, bullshit. I say, what'd you say?

She says, bullshit. I said, babe, what? And then Jen's like, babe, she said bullshit. Then I realize she's playing with this thing that says bullshit, right? And some of this stuff that just kind of gets around. But yeah, I mean, sexy to a horse at five years old, that's interesting

Yeah, but it doesn't at all bother you that they're going through it and the influence of it is where it's not natural And they're just kind of trying to influence them to think this way that even maybe the mother thinks it's okay to give that Bra that does nothing to you No, because I I feel like it's my responsibility as a father to... Listen, if that's the real situation for her, then I'm still going to ride with her. I'm still going to help her with this. I'm still going to be her dad. I even told my daughter when she said that stuff about wanting to be a boy, I said, I'm

going to tell you this. You can be whatever you want to be, but don't be an asshole. I'm not going to raise an asshole. You can be whatever you want. You want to be a boy, you want to be a girl, you want to be a fucking monkey. I don't be an asshole. I'm not gonna raise an asshole. You can be whatever you want. You wanna be a boy, you wanna be a girl, you wanna be a fucking monkey, I don't care. Just don't be an asshole and I'll work with you and I'll be your dad forever.

How much of this you think it's, is your daughter, I'm assuming she's also living in LA, right? How much did you think is the climate of living in California and in LA? Definitely California is a problem state for sure. I mean, listen, I'm stuck there. I can't go, I can't leave, and I wish I could, but. You haven't thought about Austin?

No, not Austin. There's a guy there that does a lot of comedies. No, see the funny thing about Austin is, I consider it like a open mic city now. Cause all these young comics that are just new in the game have a place to go and be attached to somebody big. And I don't think it's necessarily great for the business because a lot of people are getting famous

off of one minute clips and the headlining and they don't have the hour that it takes to do, the one hour they have like maybe 10 minutes max. And then what do you do? Yeah. So are you performing five, six times a week just to like do what George Carlin told you? You're always working?

You can't, it's like working out, you know? You have to. You have to. How many times a week are you on the stage? This week, just twice. I'm doing two shows. Then next week I've got eight shows. The next week I'm doing a movie and then eight shows.

So I mean, you gotta continuously work. Is it all in LA or no? Those are in Irvine at the Improv there next weekend. Yeah, so that makes sense. So California, so you got what? Is it New York, is it now New York one day in California? Is it California, New York, Austin? Is it those three?

For comedy, I would say New York is always gonna be number one Because New York always produces the best comics and that's where I became a better comic was in New York There's just there's just so many good comics out there now and there's a lot of good comics now There's a lot of really good comics now There's a lot of really shit ones too that are getting work Which is it sucks for the good comics who don't have the quote unquote following. You know, there's so many really funny guys that just I watch and I go, Jesus, I really got to step my game up.

To see, but isn't that going to filter itself out? Like if you're not a good comic, the market's going to filter you out. Eventually, but that's a process too. It doesn't happen overnight. Are there people that have done over 10 years of being in this business with still behind closed doors? Everybody's saying, that guy's pretty bad at what he does. Oh yeah, there's plenty of them.

And you know who they are, like when you meet comics. Any city I go to, I tend to let the locals go on stage, because it's a full house. They don't really get that opportunity very often. And most headliners that come in kind of shut off to everybody. I never wanted to be that guy. I've always wanted to be more gracious and welcoming to everybody. So I come to your city, you hit me, I'll be like, yeah, come on, do five minutes or

whatever. I won't listen to their act. I'll listen to the audience reaction. And then I'll ask them when they come off. It's quiet out there and the guy comes in. I go, how was it? Oh, it was great. I'm like, okay, this guy's never gonna work. This guy's never gonna make it.

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you're like, holy shit, what was that all about? And they were no names. Well, Matt Reif used to open for me. What year? 2018. Did he use your model? Because you were one of the first guys on YouTube that you put your special blue on?

I never put it out there, somebody else did. So it's not even on your own channel? It's not, no, I have my own channel now. No, no, I know, but it wasn't on your own channel. It wasn't on my own channel. Wow. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't, I still don't have any idea how to work that social media world. You still got a couple million subscribers, Don.

Yeah, I'm doing okay there, but Matt Rife, listen, this kid, when he was opening for me, he was killing. So I always knew, and look at him, the kid's destined to be a movie star, look at the guy, he's not, I used to, when he'd finish opening for him, I'd go, give it up for Matt Rife. He's my favorite lesbian comedian. Because he's pretty. You know what I mean? But I was watching him and he was like, I remember he hit me up like, hey, do you think your agency would take a look at me or management? I go, yeah, let me, I call my agent. I'm like, you know, this kid's a home run. He's destined to be a star. I think you guys would be wise to sign him. Like, ah, we don't see it. And I go, you serious? And then, and the same

with Theo Vaughn. I was like, Theo's also looking for, I said, Theo's looking for an agent too. And I'm like, nah. And I'm like, and now, yeah, my agent came back to me a year ago and was like, next time you offer us somebody, we're taking him. And guess what, my same agency signed Matt. Also they finally did. Who is it, see who's the agent, is it? Who am I with, UTA. UTA, got it.

And UTA is one of the main ones for comedy, right? Comics are with UTA. Theo, he's got like a top five, top 10 podcast right now. Theo is, I listen to him, his comedy, I'm like, he's got a little bit of that yogi comedy. He tells the joke, seven seconds later, they're like, oh my God, that was the funniest thing I heard in my life. Very different style.

By the way, is it true that he's the guy from that video on Jerry Springer? Is that him? I don't know, I've never heard that. Have you seen this one or no, Rob? No. Go to YouTube, type in Theo Vaughn preaching, okay? Have you seen this one or no Rob? No. Go to YouTube, type in Theo Von preaching. Okay, have you seen this?

Oh, I can't wait to see if you've seen it. Okay, the top video. Click on that one. That's a deep fake, it says. But watch, watch this. ...shame of me and of my words in this adorabous and single generation of heroes of child and child. and we just talked about deep fake like right before going live yeah that's that's and it even says deep fake yeah but but there's there's a which one is that what does that say Rob no the one you just showed go back what's the

title on that one he just said does this child preacher understand the words he's yelling from the Oprah Winfrey show eight years ago so there's no way there's deep fake eight years ago okay so that doesn't look like Theo. I got you, I got you. So they put the face on there, I got it. Well, listen, I fell for it because when I've seen this thing, I said to myself, that is hilarious for Theo.

When's the first time he opened up for you? Theo never opened for me. Theo's always been his own animal. When's the first time you met him? Oh, shit, I met him years ago. I mean, you know, I've been in LA 18 years, so I guess, I don't even remember when I first met him, but you know, he was always a good guy.

Always a good guy. By the way, do you have a podcast or no? I had one. I just got bored. I didn't do it the way you're doing it, you know, with the lights and the cameras and the, I mean, I obviously had cameras, but I was doing it in my backyard.

I was taking the lazy route. Rogan's the one that told me to start the podcast, and he said, when you do, I'll be a guest. I said, all right. Rogan was never a guest on my podcast. Fucker moved to Austin and couldn't do the damn podcast. Why didn't you though? Why didn't you continue?

Because I see a guy like you, like you'd freaking kill it doing podcasts. No, I think I'll bring it back, or come with another idea for it because that one was just all the weight was on me on that one and I think I work better when I'm talking to somebody and and somebody who can we can bounce shit off of you know. Yeah dude I this this game of podcast the numbers came out the other day I don't know if you saw the article or not.

No. Wall Street Journal what's happening with it. The top 10 podcasts, there's five million podcasts worldwide, 150 million total downloads ever, a half a billion total listeners you're competing for. Half a billion. The top 10 podcasts, not top 10%, top 10 podcasts get 35 percent of the listeners.

Yeah. That's about right. Are you in the top 10? If we do five days a week, we're in the top 10. If we do five days a week. If we do two times a week, we're in the top 25, if we do that. But we have to do... I was doing one a week.

You were doing one a week? Yeah, but part of it is, that's why I go back to the question I ask when I talk to guys. I'm like, you're like, yeah, I don't wanna do that. Yeah, I don't wanna do that. Yeah, I don't wanna do that. Yeah, I don't know if I wanna do that. I wanna do this, I wanna do that. You gotta wanna do a podcast to keep doing it.

I wanna do one that excites me. One that I would want little, how with yours I can watch clips of it. I don't need to watch the whole thing. There's bits that I wanna see. And then there's bits I don't wanna see. It's not personal, that doesn't interest me at this time. But it allows the individual to pick and choose

what they wanna do. I thought for sure you would be like, one format that works is finding a co-host. A guy that you just enjoy having a conversation with. Yeah, that's the thing, I never had a co-host, it was just me. I'm sure you got a lot of contacts. I don't know a lot of people who got wedding,

which was, was Cedric the entertainer the efficient of your- Cedric married me, my wife. I couldn't believe, and then you had Bruce Buffer introduce, who does that? So Bruce was a guest, and then Bruce goes, hey, do you want me to introduce you? And I go, well, you're just here as a guest, Bruce,

but if you wanna do it, I wanna ask you to do that. Do you have the clip, Rob? Can you, okay, this is, imagine, now listen, I don't know how you got wedding, but, how you got married, but this is how Russell gets married. Go ahead. This is the moment you all been waiting for. It's time!

It's time! The show king! The family gonna red his face, God. As they walk down the Isle of Love forever! A new Mr. and Mrs. Ross and Olly Peters! That was sick. That was pretty good. Yeah, so I mean I was on the other side of the door

listening really intently because I was like, this sounds so cool. But yeah, so I mean listen, when you're Russell Peters. And then you know, just not to double down, but Now Rogers and She Chic was my band. Rogers and Chic was your band. Now Rogers. Now Rogers and Chic.

Do you know who Now Rogers is? No. Oh, pull up Now's discography. Now Rogers and Chic. Not now, Nile. Jesus, guys. Rob, what is? Where'd you find this guy? He's a comedian. Are you? Yeah, in Florida. Jesus, guys. Rob, what is? Where'd you find this guy?

He's a comedian. Are you? Yeah, in Florida. That's the problem. That's the problem. Now Rogers. Pull up his top hits and you'll see, like, just type in like a, look at this shit, Good Times, Everybody Dance, I'm Coming Out.

Do you remember all these songs? Of course, yeah, I just don't know the name. Yeah, La Freak. La Freak out. Yeah. Those are all him. I had Reggie Calloway at my wedding. I don't know if you remember Reggie Calloway.

I know Reggie, of course. He's the Casanova, or I Wanna Be Rich, or I Wanna Be Rich. And then he was part of Midnight Star. He was part of Midnight Star, yes. And his brother as well. That's right. They're from Cincinnati. And they had the group Calloway.

Yes, Calloway. And he lives in Encino. He lives in Encino, yeah. And his brother as well. That's right. And they have a group, Calaway. Yes, Calaway. And he lives in Encino. He lives in Encino, yeah. He trains people in the park. One of them trains martial arts. Yeah, they were very, very good at what they did. Did you ever hang out with J. King? Or no, J. King was friends with Reggie Calaway.

Club Nuvo. Oh, Club Nuvo. Look at all these numbers. No, I remember Club Nuvo because their original name was Timex Social Club. Yes, it was. Good for you. I've been DJing for 40 years.

That's right. So my musical knowledge is very good. Good for you. That's right. You were DJing in Toronto. I read that. I saw that. Yeah, J King, Why You Treat Me So Bad. They had all these great songs. Yeah, great song. But I met these guys. Reggie introduced me to J King.

So it's interesting, the wedding. But going back to the whole podcast thing, I mean, you got a list of a thousand people you can choose to be a co-host, to do something with you. Yeah, I know. I want it to be organic though, you know what I mean? I want it to be like people who I really vibe with. Yeah. And who like I...

And also you want somebody who's a little bit more opposite than you. Of course. Yes, otherwise it's gonna be... I don't want to say you're gonna agree with somebody. I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree. No one's gonna watch that, yeah. So you need that little adversity You need the person that's gonna possibly not give a shit about what they say You know, there's a lot of variables with that like finding a good guy like that even though he's a illiterate I mean, I think it's yes. Oh, he'll see takes ESL at night

We're trying to help him out and he's American which is the worst part Yeah, but I mean listen some people learn it later. I mean, I always took ESL at night, we're trying to help him out. And he's American, which is the worst part. Yeah, but I mean, listen, some people learn it later. I always took ESL. I've always worried, I worry about America when it comes to spelling, grammar is horrible now. Everything is auto-correct. Yeah, but nobody knows tenses anymore. It's like, I ask you to do something.

No, you asked me, motherfucker. Don't ask, the ED is gone. for some reason, it's been so associated with erectile dysfunction that they're trying to cut it off of sentences now. Yeah, literally, that makes sense. I have a blessed day. A bless, I think you mean blessed. Yeah.

And don't waste your fucking blessings on me. Be patient with us. We're eventually gonna get it right. Just gonna take a minute with us. You hear, you don't happen last time I was here. What's that? I was in Miami doing shows guys said I love come to the south to go This isn't the south I go. This is the most southern point of America. I go the only thing south of here is Cuba I go they I said if this isn't the south then where's the south? It's north of here. I go for fuck

never mind That is so by the way your brother is your manager apparently yeah, and six years apart you know he's yeah Oh, for fuck's sakes. Never mind. By the way, your brother is your manager apparently, right? And six years apart, you and your brother. Does he spend a lot of time with Dane Cook's brother or no? No, no, hopefully he does not. I mean, now I gotta go check my brother's drywall. That's a very dense drywall you got there. Any reason why your last seven calls

have been with Dane Cook's brother? What's the story here? In jail? In jail, yeah, well, it's a collect call I'm getting here. What a wild story, right? That is wild. Brother manages him. Well, it was just, in all fairness,

it wasn't his, it was his like brother-in-law. Well, it's his- It wasn't his blood brother, I don't think. Or half brother. I think it was step-brother. Step-brother and the step-brother's wife. Sister-in-law, right? My brother's my real brother.

Okay, that's good. We have the same two parents. So listen, Clayton, respect you, buddy. By the way, just's wife. Sister-in-law, right? My brother's my real brother. Okay, that's good. So listen, Clayton, respect you, buddy. By the way, just saying, I met Clayton for some, he was just here, nicest guy I just met. But yeah, that's good, that's good that they're not spending a lot of time together. Yeah, no, no, my brother spends a lot of time with his wife and kid.

I know where he is. Also lives in LA? No, no, they live in Canada. So he lives in Canada, you're in LA? I'm in LA. How long have you guys been working together? 54 years. 54 years.

That's how old I am, so. That's right, makes sense. And was it from the beginning? He's like, I'm gonna represent you? No, he just always, he was always my big brother. He's six years older, I'm six, he's 12. Kid picks on me, my brother comes out. I'm 12, he's 18, kid picks on me, my brother comes out.

Was he literally that guy that protected you? He was, but he never had to fight anybody for it because he was always a big guy. Somebody was scared of him and he has a very, he knows how to intimidate people. But I was always the finisher, that's the funny thing is. He would start and I'd box and I'd do jiu-jitsu. I'm like, I'm always, I'm the guy, I don't argue well. I'm like, I'm always, I'm the guy I don't argue well. I'm like, ah. Okay, good.

You stop talking? All right, let's go guys, we gotta get out of here. Who were you in high school by the way, 14 years old? I was a little kid, lost, I was bullied a lot. Like a lot, like bullying was really bad. In what way, like words or more physically? Oh, it was all of it, words, physical. Why? It was very racist towards me, I was very racist towards my parents, Like a lot, like bullying was really bad. In what way, like words or more physically?

Oh, it was all of it, words, physical. Why? It was very racist towards Indian people in Canada back in the day, 70s and 80s. And it's something the kids nowadays don't understand. So when they say they're being bullied, I'm like, cyber bullied? I mean, I get it, but turn it off.

I, my only way around bullying them was to avoid people. Like if I, and I was only white people that I was scared of mostly you know what I mean like if I saw a White man walking towards me down the street And I'm an eight-year-old boy, and that's a grown man fifth 40 50 years old I would still cross the street because I don't know what he's gonna do it didn't matter how small or young I was how many Incidents there was there's so many there was countless countless. It was daily It wasn't like this the one thing happened to me and changed me was constant like hit How many incidents? There was, there's so many, there was countless, countless. It was daily. It wasn't like this one thing happened to me

and changed me, it was constant. Like hit, slap. Hit, spit, slapped, punched, thrown in garbage cans, called names, all of it, it was all there. But at the same time, it never like, it never traumatized me in a way that I hated people. Yeah, I don't feel any resentment for me at all.

No, because even at that age, I understood, I knew there was a miss, that something was missing here. You're not catching something here. Who's that, you, your brother, and your mom? Yeah. There's a picture before that where I'm smiling, and that one, my parents told me not to make that stupid face, picture before that where I'm smiling and that one, my parents told me not to make that stupid face

so that's why I'm making that face and that one. Let me see if I have it. I have it on my phone. It's so funny because I look at that one and I go, oh yeah, I remember that. I got yelled at for making a face so I think I went like, and then I'm like, don't make stupid face.

And I was like, right, fine. Zero resentment in you. None. Look, this is my face before that picture was taken. So that's crazy, so you didn't post that one though? No, can you zoom in on that? Rob, can you airdrop it? Airdrop it, if you airdrop it, Rob will pick it up.

Turn it to all, Rob. pick it up. And turn it to all. Rob, you know how to work iPhone? Do you know how to spell iPhone? Robert's MacBook Pro? Yep. There we go. Got it? Yep.

Yes, that's the after picture. I sent you the before. Where I was happy that I got to make my own face. How old are you here? Seven? Eight? No, maybe five. Okay. I'm about five there. Ah! That was the before picture.

Don't make that stupid face. That's my face. Your parents still together? They would have been if my dad didn't die, but 20 years ago. He'd be 99 now, so let's be honest, he wouldn't be here anyway. So natural. It was cancer, and he was only 78 when it happened. Otherwise, he was healthy as a hog before.

Sudden, was it a sudden story? It was like two years and it was done. Two, three years max and it was full deterioration. What's the age difference, mom and dad? 16 years. 16 years. My dad was a year younger than my grandmother. Your dad was a year younger than your mom's mom?

Yeah. My family's very interesting in that. My mom's side is, if you were to compare it to something, they'd almost be brown trash. You know what I mean? Mom's side. Mom's side. Grandma got pregnant at 14 or 15.

That's normal back then. They weren't married yet. But I mean, you're talking about 80 years ago, right? Yeah, but still, you know what I mean? It was kind of like, oh, what's going on there, Nana, you know? And then they had, like, you know, they had my uncle, and then she got pregnant right away with my mom. And so my mom and her brother were 10 months apart.

And then there's another uncle, they're all dead now, but. How many total uncles you got? Uncles and aunts. Oh, I don't remember, they're all gone now. I don't think I got any left. Big family or no? I guess it was not a huge family, but when we'd get together, it would look like a big family

because whoever married who, then their side would come. And you know what I mean? So it'd be like a big thing. But no ancestry. No, no, no. We're not those people. I don't think it takes discipline to not fuck your family. I mean, maybe in Iran, I don't think it takes discipline to not fuck your family. I am I mean maybe in Iran

I don't know what you guys do over there, but you ever performed in West Virginia or not me. There's there's some places that Have I been to West Virginia? What's a big city in West, Virginia? What I've seen a lot of videos about West Virginia that have frightened me There's a song have you seen have you seen that documentary, The Whites of West Virginia? Uh-uh. You saw it, Rob? Yes. It's about a family that has practiced inbreeding, right?

Years, decades. But their last name is White. That's why it's called The Whites. How did it work? Did it work out? Oh, no. They're fucking mental. Seriously.

Dude, the girl gives birth. We don't know who the father is in this, but she goes to the hospital, has a baby, and right as soon as she's had the baby, her sister comes in. She's like, oh my God, congrats here, and does a line of coke with her. I'm like, what are you doing? It was either coke or meth, whatever it was, but it was wild. Yeah, the wild and wonderful whites of West Virginia. And then you got that soft underbelly,

you follow that on YouTube? He's got that other family, what are they called? So you got Charleston, Morgantown, Wheeling. They're, I think they're Appalachian, no they're, they're from Virginia too. And they're all inbred as well. Virginia or West Virginia? West Virginia.

Keep going down. You'll see. You'll know as soon as I see it. They're a family. I forgot what they're called. But one of them talks like this. Ha! He can't speak.

He just goes ha! The Whitakers. The Whitakers, that's it. The Whitakers. Yeah, it's wild watching them and you feel bad. I went to West Virginia when I was in the army. And then- To defend it? Well, we went to this-

That's the real family. They're all inbred. I mean, they look normal. You don't think? It's a horror movie. A horror movie. Ha ha ha ha. 42 million views. Yeah. Holy moly.

Listen, when you pass an accident, you don't not look. Ha ha. I mean, that's pretty bad though. People stare at disasters. That is pretty bad. Yeah, when we went to West Virginia, there was a Greyhound like a racetrack. He's drooling in that photo.

I see the... That's not for effect. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Yeah, well, this is why I've only been to West Virginia one time. Yeah, maybe that's why I've never been. Well, but on your tour, it said you're performing next week to West Virginia, three years stops,

don't you, like in Charleston? I'm killin'. I'm killin' all the time. Charl next week to West Virginia. Three years stops, don't you? Like in Charleston? I'm killin'. I'm killin' over it. Charleston's in West Virginia? I thought I said the cities, yeah, West Virginia has a city called Charleston. 49,000 people live there. That's West Virginia for you.

In West Virginia, when they get divorced, they're still related. That's ironic. I did hear a story about this family in West Virginia. Where the brother walks in on his sister and she's masturbating with a carrot and he looks and he goes hey, that's disgusting I was gonna eat that later. Now. It's gonna taste like carrot That is too funny That is too I like the Patrick didn't want to laugh at that. No, no, I got I told you like that's the thing with Theo sometime. I listen to him like, okay, it's catching up, catching up.

Ha ha ha, I just got it. So... Hey, what did you do in the army? I was a hammer mechanic. That's what happens when you score 31 on your ASVAB. You don't become, you know, military intelligence. Now when I was in, it was just Kosovo, Bosnia, and the Honduras flooding. That's the only thing that was going on when I was in.

97 or 99 when I was in. And then I got out last minute. I lived in Iran when the war happened between Iran and Iraq. I was there for 10 years, but not when I was in the army. That's you with the shaved head? Yes, me and the shaved head. Wearing an Ohio State sweater because I liked Eddie George, the running back. Where did you guys move to when you moved to America?

Glendale, California. Of course you went to Glendale. For somebody that knows this stuff. I was assuming Glendale, but I just wanted to make sure. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt because I saw Ohio there. No, no, no. I went to Glendale, California, lived there for six years, went to high school to Glendale, and then I joined the army, then I got out and then I moved to Granada Hills. And then I lived in Granada Hills to Glendale and then I joined the army then I got got out and then I moved to

Granada Hills and then I lived in Granada Hills for a few years and then moved to Northridge to Woodland Hills to Chatsworth no no to not Canoga Park, but what is that place? I think it is it is Chatsworth and I moved to Dallas lived in Dallas five years Plano And it came down here three and a half years ago. Four law. Plano's blowing up now. Plano is blowing up. That's where the headquarters is for the Dallas Cowboys, right?

Yes. Yeah, that's where last year I went to Rayquan from Wu-Tang Clan's wedding, and it was in Plano. Are you a hip hop guy? I'm very much hip hop. Who do you like in hip hop? I mean, I'm about the whole culture more than any one particular musical aspect of it,

like as far as DJing, break dancing, graffiti graffiti and all that stuff, I love all of it. Like Beat Street day one, like coming up. I'm part of Rocksteady Crew. I'm an official member now. Really? Yeah. Crazy Legs made me an official Rocksteady Crew member in December last year. That is cool. So I'm... That's an honor. I never got the invite.

He did it at my house. He just brought me a sweatshirt, he goes, hey, you're official. That's cool. That is cool. But hip hop, are you a East Coast hip hop, are you West Coast, are you East Coast? All day, all day. So Biggie, at the top for you. Biggie's my number one, absolutely.

Who's your top five? It would be Biggie, Big Al, a lot of bigs in this, Big Daddy Kane, Biggie, Big Al, a lot of bigs in this. Big Daddy Kane. AG from Showbiz and AG. And Chino XL, who just passed away two days ago, was one of my favorite guys to listen to. But there's a lot more than that.

Did Chino XL really die two days ago? Yeah, he passed away two days ago. Chino XL was in Hit em Up. Well, Tupac took a lame shot at him. Yeah. Yeah, but Chino was a lame shot at him. Yeah. Yeah, but Chino was a beast on the mic. Really? Yeah, like the things Chino said were so, so amazing.

You're just like, wow, how did you, you know, like even in his new song, he's gone on rock and you're gonna need, I'm gonna call the paramedics. I say paramedics because you're gonna need at least two. You know what I mean? Like he would always break words down and just say the most foul shit. And he'd watch the news and write rhymes.

And I was like, that's amazing. You spent time with him to see how he was like? No, I never saw his process, but we were friends. You know what I mean? What do you think about Tupac? No, I was never, never. You almost sound like you don't like the guy. I was never a fan.

You were never a fan. Why not? Because of like, not because of like music. I know I just never liked his music How do you not like the guys music? It wasn't good to me? You're saying two pox music wasn't good to you to me. I didn't get it It didn't make sense to me and I didn't like his voice and they don't like his cadence I liked him as a actor. I liked him as an iconic figure I liked him as an activist but as a a rapper, didn't do nothing for him. Who'd you like from West Coast? Or is it just, you like nobody from the West Coast?

No, I like some people from the West Coast. Snoop has always been good. The Alcoholics, who else? Exhibit, they're all, if you look at it, it's kind of all down with Dre's camp, but. I remember when Exhibit first came out with Paparazzi. Remember Paparazzi when it came out? I probably played Paparazzi nonstop.

Oh, it's a shame. It was LA Times, so I'm doing LA Times. It's a shame. Rap game, only for the money and the extra. It was a great song. It was phenomenal. Yeah, so a lot of East Coast for you. Are you an R&B guy as well or no?

Mainly hip hop. Yeah, no, I know. The funny thing is I'm known for hip hop. Like there's a documentary she's on Netflix called Hip Hop Evolution. I don't know if you ever saw it. You saw it? I executive produced that.

That's my show. I did that. I didn't know that. Yeah. That's my show. I did not know that. We won an Emmy and a Peabody for that. I saw the Emmy and you... Was it the International Emmy or the...

No, that's a different one, right? That you won. I think it was the International... No, it might have been the Peabody for that. Whatever, I don't know. I got one award for each. Yeah, you won a Peabody and you have an International Emmy as well. Right there, yeah. International Emmy. That that's right that's the same one then international Emmy award for best arts programming. Yeah but but hip-hop evolution not a lot of R&B or also R&B. No I love R&B. I love all music you know

what I listen to 90% of the time when I'm alone classic rock. I'm listening I'm listening to Yacht Rock most of the time. Like, and my wife gets mad because she loves R&B. Like 90s R&B or any R&B? All R&B. I like, I stopped around late, you know, early 2000s I stopped. I stopped 03. My hip hop starts, stops in 03. I know nothing about hip hop after 03.

I think that's a fair assessment. I think I'm about the same as you. I'm 03. You tell me R&B with As Yet, with Jagged Edge, with Aaron Hall, with Uncle Sam, all these guys, even some of the guys that people don't know about, I can hang. After 03, say anything. I know nothing. Yeah, I'm with you.

And I don't like the auto-tune stuff because anybody can sound like a singer now. And that doesn't show me you got talent. And we're from the non-copycat era. They're like, oh, you're doing this? Okay, I'm gonna do this then. Now it's like, oh, you're doing this? Oh, I'm gonna do that too. And you go to YouTube and you see just copycat after copycat

and it doesn't just music, everything is, this generation does not have the, again, like I said, they're waiting to be programmed to tell what to do. Let me ask you, did you watch Kanye's documentary? Uh, I think I did. You didn't say Jay-Z or Kanye. What do you think about Kanye and Jay-Z?

No. Not for me. Neither? Neither. Well, I take Jay over Kanye. I don't play any Kanye music. You've never had? You never have? No, I mean, I might have played some of the records he produced back in the day. Like, he did some good records with Dwellé and Slum Village and stuff. That's when he was just a producer. Were you a ditty guy or no?

Let's rephrase that question. Well, I mean, did you ever shoot any videos with him or go to his Miami house? No, I've been to his house. I went to the house that got raided. The one in Miami? No, the one in Brentwood. So that's because we were shooting it for Hip Hop Evolution.

And I was there for about an hour and a half, two hours waiting. Me and the whole crew were just waiting, waiting. We could hear them upstairs. And I'm like, I'm outta here guys. You guys do the interview. This guy's taking too fucking long. So I left, I didn't even meet him in the house.

I left, I was like, this is taking too long. Have you ever met him before or no? I met him in 97. Okay. In Atlantic City. That's the peak, that's the war. It was after Biggie had died already. Right. And I met him at a fight in Atlantic City.

Lennox Lewis, we grew up together, we were both amateurs at the same time. And so Lennox I've known for 40 years. And I was at one of Lennox's fights in Atlantic City. And Puffy was ringside, I was ringside, and I took a picture with him. And then Donald Trump was right there because it was at the Trump casino there. And then right after I took the photo with him,

Donald Trump goes, takes photo with Puffy, and he's like, looks at the camera and send me that photo. And I was just like, wow, that's that rich, I didn't know, I was like, that's that rich guy that owns this place, that's all I looked at him I see what I mean have you had any other interactions with them or no with Trump yeah no never met what do you think about the guy I mean both as a Canadian and as an American I I think I understand how he's managed to I have for

lack of a better term, dupe the public. But I mean, that's the world we live in now. People are waiting to be programmed to be told how to think. Who's a better duper, him or Biden? I mean, Biden doesn't even know he's duping. That's correct, you're the goat. Right, I mean, that's when you know you've made it.

Yeah, I mean. The ultimate duper, I guess. I mean, listen, we're in bad shape. How about that, OK? We're in a country without any leadership, and it's not looking good on the horizon. Now, you said something. You said I'm Canadian, so you're not going to vote anyway.

I can't vote. Right. So that's why my opinion is moot and irrelevant. And if somebody wants to say fuck him, it's fair because I have no stake in this game. I'm the guy who has to just go along with whatever you guys are doing. So who I would think is best for the country is irrelevant.

It doesn't matter what I think. Let me ask a question just out of curiosity. Do you intentionally avoid the conversation of politics? I'm ignorant to it. But there's nothing about you that gives me ignorant vibes, but are you ignorant to it because, you know, it's a position of, look man, I don't know what you're talking about,

and you may have some strong opinions behind closed doors, or is it, no, I just don't wanna talk about it. No, I've never been a political guy. I don't get it, and there's people that study it and really know the ins and outs of it, and for me to have any conversation about it, I could be shut down with one argument. Like, I mean, you could pull up one point and I'll be done.

You know what I mean? It's like some guy who's never boxed and wants to get in the ring with me. I'm like, all right, well, or wants to do jujitsu with me. I'm like, it's not gonna be fair. You know how it started for me? For me, the way it started,

I hate politics because my parents got a divorce because of politics. One's a communist, one's an imperialist and I'm like, there was nothing positive to me about politics as a kid. That's how I feel about religion. Okay, cool. And by the way, I was an atheist for the first 25 years of my life. You should be. I was an atheist. You're born that way.

Yeah, but the point being like, I get what you're saying. Trust me, I know all the arguments, because I used to go debate Scientologists in LA. I used to go to LDS and debate the Mormons, and I used to go to Seven Day, and I used to go to all these guys. Anyways, I don't want to go on the, I'm going to stay on the political side. And then I brought the political side to the most basic thing for me.

So for example, you said you make 25 million, they take 50% off taxes, then your agent and your manager take 10 points on the 25 million, so that's five million, right? So now you're at 17 and a half million. That's been taken off. So then you got 5% goes to your CFO, your accountant, whatever the five,

that's a million to five, you're left with $6.25 million. So versus for me, I sat there and I'm like, okay, who can do more with the 50%, the $12.5 million I went to the government? Can you do more with the $12.5 million or the government? Well, I think I can do more for me. That's the point. But even with you, and, I think I can do more for me. That's the point. But even with you, and then what happens

if you do more for you, do you do more for? Others? Others, I do. Yeah, but I think naturally you're gonna do that. Naturally. So that's the most basic part of politics for me. The most basic part of politics for me started off with economy, where it's kinda like,

so let me get this straight. You want to take how much money from Elon? So would I rather have Elon get $50 billion or the government get $50 billion? You just gave that guy in Ukraine $200 billion. Is Ukraine going to do better with the money than Elon is? Give that $200 billion to this guy. It was so basic mathematically, and then the social stuff, like right now when I'm talking to you, you're saying, my 11-year-old daughter comes and tells me I want to be a boy.

Yeah? No. Right? And then, you know what? I don't like boys. I'm a lesbian. Oh, that's great, right? Lustic is better, you know, whatever you say.

Okay. And then it's like, oh, now I like both. Okay, the way you're going, you're eventually going to like this. Now, maybe me as a conservative, when it comes down to the way I want to raise my kids, I may sit there and say, okay, cool, we're not the same in that area, but I also understand I don't want to live in California because I think a lot of the influence is coming from the schools in California. You're okay being there.

I lived there 24 years. I'm not okay. I'm stuck there. I know. And you kind of have to because you're in the space, right? So even just your answer right now reveals a little bit that you're not fully supportive of it. I'm definitely not. Even just your answer right now reveals a little bit that you're not fully supportive of it. But because you're in that world, you are a comedian.

Ice Cube, you're two, what is it, a month ago or something like that, I said, so are you really gonna live and die in LA? And he says, yeah, I'm West Side, I'm West Coast, I'm California, I am California. He's right. You think Ice Cube, can you imagine Ice Cube moving to Texas?

I would sit there and say, what are you doing moving to Texas? I mean, Ice-T moved back to New Jersey, but Ice-T's originally from New Jersey. That one, and by the way, Ice-T is also very much political in his own way, he'll talk politics in a big way, but going back to it, when I think economy, I think purely that.

And then I go to which side wants to take more money away from you and give it to Zelensky. Whoever wants to do that more, I don't want to be part of that side. But I mean, that's also, again, you're playing the game of wolf and sheep's clothing. This guy's gonna sell you, this guy's gonna tell you, we're gonna do this,

but he's not really gonna do this. Nobody's going to do anything, you know what I mean? Everybody comes in with these great talking points, I feel. But if there's one thing that you and I know for a fact. Like here's, I'll tell you this about Trump, one of the reasons that he irritated me, and listen, I have friends who love him to death, and I will never talk politics with them

because I don't have any strong points. And their feelings are based on whatever they're based on. I can't hold it against anybody. And I think the minute you do that, you're going to lose the battle yourself. No question. But what he did do, because he had a hard on for California when he was president, he took away certain things

from California that were really helping me. You used to be able to write off 100% of your interest on your mortgage. Got rid of that. Now you're fucked again. You know what I mean? You're just like, he's like taking like... For a guy that's in real estate, by the way. So that was kind of surprising to the real estate industry. Yeah, well, because he was mad at them.

And I don't think, as the leader of a country, you can't be mad at any parts of your country. But, however, to flip on that, let me tell you what did happen, right, for even anybody that's in the world of business. Capital gains you took from 39 to 20. You know how much that was? So capital gains from 39 to 20, you make it $100 million. Now you're keeping 80 million of it

versus you used to only keep 60 million of it. No, that's great. That is massive. You know they have that mansion tax in California now? I know, and you got gas tax coming. How much gas tax you guys got? I don't know, I haven't been home in two months, but the last I was there, gas was six and a half dollars.

It's a little ridiculous what this little guy's doing. It's absolutely ridiculous. Okay, so how do you feel about Elon Musk? What do you think about Musk? I think Elon Musk is a fucking genius He's a he's a dreamer who knows how to make things happen He's definitely high on the autism scale but in a good way Does he do goofy things? Yeah, but everybody's gonna do something stupid at some point or considered goofy or whatever

You're gonna call it. Nobody's gonna live this model life that we're expecting people to live. Everybody has a side of them that's gonna be disagreeable with. But the way I would think about it with him. He's never driven by money. No, he's not, I agree. There's no amount of money that could drive that man. Do you think Rogan's driven by money?

No, not at all. I agree, so watch this. Do you think both of them 10 years ago were probably on the left liberals? Possibly. Yeah, Rogan was Bernie Sanders. Rogan was a legalized marijuana. Rogan's not right either.

No, I never said he's right. He's right in the middle. He's for sure not right. I'll tell you that he's for sure not right. But here's how I process it. When a person comes in interviews for a job, okay, or you date somebody, you've had girlfriends, right? When you date somebody, right?

And if a girl you're on a date with, you guys are getting serious, if she trashes her previous three boyfriends, you're gonna be the fourth, right? If a friend of yours says, dude, fucking my boss is the worst I've ever had, piece of shit guy, really? You said that about the other guy in the mortgage company.

You said that about the other guy. You gotta figure out when the common denominator is you. Right. Like I know, I look at all my past relationships and I look at how they all started and how they all ended. Some of them us, some of them them. I would tend to say it was 99% me who caused them to become this way

because they didn't start off that way. They somehow got, they ended up that way. And I guess that I enabled that behavior and probably drove them towards that behavior. But let me tell you, man, most guys can't say what you just said. That's not an easy thing to say. I have no problem admitting what I'm wrong.

But that's why you're likable, bro. This is like the part why there is nothing to not like about you. You're the guy that everybody likes because. Not online, people can't stand me. Well, maybe some of the. People come and fuck this guy, I hate this guy. I can't stand this guy.

I don't know, bro, even right now, like people wanna see you, hear you, all this stuff, but no, I'm going more from the standpoint for me when it comes down to the example I gave about the three Xs, or the three, these jobs suck and it's all the same. Dude, how does Newsom lose Rogan and Musk? How do you lose those guys?

Well, Newsom's terrible. Yeah, how do you lose, and then how do you? You know what a great drinking game is? When you watch a Newsome speech, and every time he says, ah, you take a shot, you'll be fucking hammered within three minutes. So it's actually a pretty good drinking game. Yeah.

That's what I always say when he's talking. Ah, and so ah. I'm like, oh fuck. He's so good though. I get it, you're a good looking guy, but that's it. This isn't a movie. This is real life. So, you know, that's the part where...

And he's Nancy's nephew? Yeah. Yeah. Relation. Obviously there's no nepotism going on. There's no favor. No, not at all. And he's what?

Part of the Getty family, right? Don't jump to conclusion just because this is a very intellectual Californian that he's loved by the people of California. No, he's definitely not. You know, this guy lost a trillion dollars of money under management that left the state of California last four years. And he's done nothing to make people want to come back or stay, he's making it worse.

But that goes back to the idea of when you're saying Trump versus Kamala or any of this stuff. To me, it goes basics to economy. You lost two people due to economy. And Elon Musk, he says, I got a vengeance to get back to these guys because it what did he say about his losing his son what was he said he's dead to me what's the word that something he dead he said that his son the woke mind virus had killed his son and he was setting out to destroy

the woke mind virus and he's talking about California Newsome so I mean some of these some of these policies you go back and forth and you look at it, like, listen, man, I don't care whether you're faking because you want to get a lot of eyeballs, that you're entertaining, you're doing this, you're doing that. When it comes on to the most basic thing, I feel you're gonna do more with money

than the government's gonna do. Some people feel they're gonna do more with your money than you're gonna do. I feel you know what's best for your family and we should put more of the money in your pocket. I think it's that basic for me. For me, I think that would be great too. And there's a reason a lot of people

are getting out of America in general. They're going to Puerto Rico, they're going to the UAE. Puerto Rico's somewhat America though. I know, but you got that 4% over there. Yeah, 4.20, the tax thing, 4%. And all you have to do is make a $10,000 investment on the island? But the question is, what kind of comedy do they have in Puerto Rico?

And do you want to go through Hurricane Jose every year? I'm good with Hurricane Jose. All right, then maybe, listen, let's start a comedy club in Puerto Rico. It's not the first Hispanic to blow me. See, that's the gift. That's the gift that just comes like this. That don't come like that. You gotta suck on it for a little bit. But that's again, another one for you.

That's two. By the way, so what do you think about the JTF Canada, Justin Trudeau? Justin. Yeah. I mean, you know, again, I'm not there enough to even understand what's happening. All I just keep hearing is everybody's voices saying,

fuck this guy, he's terrible, get rid of him. And I don't know. I mean, I just know him as a guy. I just know him to be Justin, who would, he's born on Christmas. Wow, who would have known Castro's kid was born on Christmas? Have you ever seen the pictures?

I've seen the pictures. Oh my God. He doesn't look like his dad, that's for sure. And I know what his dad looked that's for sure. No. And I know what his dad looked like. Are you speculating or? I mean, I'm just. Stating facts or?

I'm just stating what I've heard over the internet. Wow, I mean, it's just too much. Wow. Look at the tip of the nose. Not even that, the eyes, the way they hit, the same way, especially the left eye. That is pretty well, but somebody could say they don't maybe that's why I didn't grow a beard Case study will give you a million dollars to grow a beard for 90 days and then let's put it next to each other see

What happens? Yeah, you can't Canada Canada also goes through the same thing politically. They got a guy right now. Are you following this new guy named Pierre, Paulier or whatever? No, I don't. You don't follow any of this stuff? I literally don't know what's going on in Canada as far as sports.

At all, so you're fully disconnected. Yeah, I've never been connected to the politics. Are you still connected to the sports of Canada? Do you follow any? I just watch boxing and MMA, so. That's right, individual sport. If it's not a combat sport, I will not watch it. Boxing and MMA. Who's your MMA sport I will not watch it boxing in MMA yeah

who's your MMA guy would you who do you like in MMA I mean there's so many guys in the in the sport right now that are exciting is there somebody that's like for you last 20 years like I mean John Jones is always gonna be the number one guy you know it's always been excited you know it's funny I just met I met him a couple times but I when I saw him in February I was in Saudi Arabia at this MMA event, and John Jones was there, and I never realized how fucking big he is.

He's a big dude, and his hands are massive. And he sees me, and I'm thinking he recognizes me from meeting me before or from comedy, and he's like, oh, what's up, hey, yo, you still got it? And I was like, oh, how does he know I boxed? So he's throwing his hands up, and I'm like, pop, pop's up? Hey, yo, you still got it? And I was like, oh, how does he know I boxed? So he's throwing his hands up and I'm like, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, right? And then he's like, come on, come on, Prince,

you still got him, Prince, wait. He thought I was Prince Nassim. Oh my God, by the way, Prince Nassim doesn't even look like him. Well, that's why he thought I was him. Wow, well listen, I don't know if that's... I was like, John, I'm first of all like eight inches taller than Prince Nassim and I'm not as big. He goes, ah, come on, he hit my belly. I go, what are you talking about?

This is how long ago? February. Oh wow. I mean listen, this guy was an entertainer. Oh yeah, he changed the game, buddy. Yeah, he totally did And it's night and day when you see what he looks like versus where he was before Well, it's not so much night and day as it is before and after But in the reverse scientific right? It's a little scientific there. Yeah, you know, I like when Dana

You know what's ironic about this is that he just called me like two days ago Who's is him Prince doesn't seem but called me like two days ago. Whose is? Him. Princeton, I've seen him but I missed his call. So you guys are friends. I'll call you back, man. You have a friendship. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

How is he when you talk to him? He's a little nutty but he's a good guy. It's funny because I was at this thing with Lennox in England maybe six years ago. Lennox was doing this, talking about his career and stuff and because we grew up together, he asked me to come moderate it for him. So we're there in England and Nassim's there and I made a joke about Nassim.

And then after he comes back, he's like, Russell, I'm gonna fucking knock out. And he's like, he's getting a little aggressive, I'm like, come down, Naz, Jesus Christ, bro, come on. Don't get fucking multi-mit. And I'm'm like, come down, Naz, Jesus Christ, bro, come on. Don't get fucking more of him, man. And I'm like, just calm down, Naz, you know what I'm doing. And Klitschko was there that night, too. I have a good picture of me standing

in between Lennox and Klitschko, and it's like... Gigantic. Yeah, it's like the Twin Towers. Gigantic, these guys. Russell, I'm listening to you, you know what I'm thinking about when I'm listening to you? I've thought about 100 guests for you to have on your podcast. Oh, tons. No, no, I'm literally... Are know what I'm thinking about when I'm listening to you, but I've thought about a hundred guests for you to

Have on your podcast. Oh tons. No. No, I'm Producing this for me. No, you can go in and knock on the door anywhere You can do you got the money to do it all I'm saying is I'm thinking of a hundred guests you can have on the podcast to interview them in such a Unique angle from your background that could be so interesting for the audience to see. Well, that's what I'd like to do. I think you ought to, I think, I don't know. I think you could be a top 10 guy competing, like literally.

There's a guy named D. Stroy. D. S. T. R. O. Y. He's a good friend of mine. Is that like a porn star? No, no, no, he used to be a rapper. It's his porn name. That's him right there. Yeah, got it.

He does interviews now with people and he's fucking amazing at it. He really freaks people out with his interviews. They all enjoy it. And there's another guy named George Strombolopoulos who's from Canada. He's an amazing interviewer. He's one of the best I've ever had.

But these two guys, like they both approach it from such a different angle. George makes you open up like that because he's just so smart and casual. So what needs to happen for you to start a podcast? We need money. Really, that's it? Yeah, I mean, money to me.

No, but that's all it's gonna take for you to do it. Yeah, if the right money's there and it creates the interest, then I'm like, yeah, okay, let's do this. What is the right money? I don't know, we don't wanna talk about that on the air. I mean, you know, a couple of million would be a great start. Okay, so what's it gonna take for you to go? I just think you would,

I think you would crush, I literally think you would crush. I think you would do very well. And yeah, I think, you know, when you- I think with the right setting, the right scenario, the right co-host, everything, yeah, obviously, you know, when you... I think with the right setting, the right scenario, the right co-host, everything, yeah, the right guy running your clips and all that, these are all, there's a lot of variables involved, right? I mean, it's you, ultimately it's you.

You're overthinking it, by the way, and Rob, like how you, Rob didn't even come here for this. Rob came here and then all of a sudden like holy shit Rob is phenomenal what he does But but before there was a Rob there was Rob how long you been out that chair? About two years who's who's ever been there for two years Vinny Oshana. No No, not not on that chair, but for two years, right? And then now he does the podcast with unusual suspects and they do different things and no, but I usual suspects It's another podcast that we have that we started

We got like 50,000 something subs right now unusual suspects and they talk about a bunch of shit Oh, they shoot it in here. No, they shoot it at the comedy club at the cigar lounge on the other side Yeah, see I like to do that where I'm smoking because I smoke cigars Pro but you got local cigar lounges that would allow you to come in and shoot. I'm telling you, Russell. It's California, you don't. But what I'm saying, Russell, with you,

okay, comedy, if you, not comedy, a podcast host, if you look at right now, the top podcast topics, 25% of the five million podcasts podcasts the subject matter is true crime 24% right next is politics and government which that's not you next is self-help business motivation and then it's I don't know what it was history all this other stuff. Do you know what's only 2% of it comedy? Yeah, I mean, here's the thing.

Comedians are doing podcasts without, we're trying to show our other side is what it is. And I mean, like, okay, look at Bert and Tom. Yeah. Theirs is hilarious. Yeah. But that's the kind of energy I need with somebody. You know what I mean?

Tom and Bert are like best friends. You do, you got a list of 100 people that would love to be your co-host, Bruin. You're living in LA, that's like fricking, talent country, pick and choose. You would kill. And we would be great, but I mean, you know, I would need somebody to throw the ideas at me

for the co-host, because you know, in your brain, you stop at certain people, you go, nah, nah, not that. Okay, can you do me a favor, if you're watching this, do me a favor, go to my Twitter account and do the following. My handle is at PatrickBetDavid and Russell, what's your Twitter handle? What is it? Can you look up what Russell's Twitter is?

Is it Russell Peters or the real Russell Peters? Go find out what the Twitter handle would be. Let me see. I actually want you to, by the way, I've never, Rob, how many podcasts have we done? When have you heard me tell a person they got to start a podcast like Zero. Yeah, I think you're gonna kill so zoom in. Okay, the real Russell P Oh, yeah, okay, so that's the handle. Why don't you give some names? Yeah, like I got 3.8 million Why don't you give some names of people that you would see hosting, co-hosting with Russell Peters?

Give some commentary where, you know, crowd sourcing and see what people say. But you know, if you went three times a week, if you went three times a week, I would be willing to bet within 12 to 24 months you'd be top 20 podcasts on Spotify. And you know they're paying okay, by the way, for some guys that decide to go with them.

After you produce it, guys are getting paid pretty good money. I think Spotify already rejected me. Yeah, but that's probably. Even when I did Rogan's, they didn't put mine on. When I did on Rogan, they were like, bam. There's a guy named Joe who got quarter of a billion dollars, and he did it again two times, by the way. That's amazing.

Yeah, and now obviously, we're not saying this is the kind of money that they're gonna pay out. No that doesn't happen all the time. And but I think but I think you dude you're okay can you go to can you go to YouTube just go to YouTube and let's do a quick analysis on our talent here. Just type in Russell Peters and Rob, if you could go to filter on the right and just go to views, okay? And zoom in a little bit, if you could. Zoom in a little bit.

Okay, 28 million views, keep going. Okay, 19 million views, 17 million views, 16 million views, 13 million views, 13 million views, 12 million views, 13 million views, 13 million views, 12 million views. 11 million views. You know how many people can say this? Brother, and by the way, these are not shorts. These are actual bits that you're doing,

or some of them are even long form. Your market is so wide, I think a podcast, you would blow up internationally. Anyways, I'm just a regular guy trying to persuade you to. Let's do it. Listen, I'm looking for any avenues of making more money, guys. No, I think this would be a part that you would crush.

Okay. We should do it out here in Florida, so I have an excuse to fly back and forth. If you were here, I would say, what do you want us to do for you? We'd open it up, we'd put the cigar lounge, we'd create a set for you, we'd do it here, but you're stuck with your buddy Gavin,

that he's just such a, you know, stud of a guy he is in California, you gotta do this phenomenal at what he does. Question for you. So. Is he sponsored by a hair gel company? Good looking guy though. Not on YouTube, probably, like your hair gel,

I mean that's a pretty, is that American Crew, or what do you use? No, this is clay, I use the clay. I use the clay, got it. I don't have the hair like, you got good hair, I got, I'm hanging on, is that American crew or what do you use? No, this is clay. I use the clay. I use the clay. Got it. I don't have the hair like you got good hair. I got, I'm hanging on. My brother's got great hair.

I'm pulling it forward so my forehead looks smaller. I'm going to be Rob in 10 minutes. The other day, my son and my daughter come to me. They're like, hey, dad, you know you're going bald. So what are you talking about? He says, here, let me take a video. The kid literally takes a video back here says, dad, no, you're going bald. Look at this, there's three spots you have.

I'm like, dude, just hide this video away from everybody. I don't wanna see it right now. But 45 years old, right? It is what it is. But no, going back to it. Okay, so I worked at Bally's, at the gym, and we would have, I was in Hollywood, El Centro Bally Tota Fitness.

I don't know if you remember that. It was down the street from Highland and Hollywood biggest biggest valleys in in the world was in Hollywood off of El Centro Next to you know Los Angeles Church of Christ that later ended up becoming a cult which has never happened before but no Yeah, so so I'm going to this gym and I used to work at Chatsworth valleys off of a DeSoto, which I don't know if you know that one. You know the one with the outdoor pool and It's down the street from the Rogan used to live by Belkanius like 15 minutes away 10 minutes away. So we would have Russian Jews would come by to buy memberships and Indians would come by to buy memberships. Okay, and

Nobody could sell them. It's very hard to sell to Russian Jews and Indians. But we're not known as historically athletic people, so. Yeah, but why do you think, what do you think when it comes on to the two profiles, okay? The ability or the desire to want to get anything to be the lowest price possible, a better deal than anybody else.

Is that a genetic thing? Is that a, you think it is? I think it is, but also. It's a gift though, right? I mean, that's like. If you're able to negotiate that way, that's a gift. I tap out easy, I'm like, all right, whatever. I'm not here to argue.

I'm just like, whatever, just shut up. Just shut up and let me go now. Yeah, that's the, what did you call it? That's the Anglo Indian? That's the Anglo Indian. All right, shut up now, pal. Negotiation genes didn't come to you. No, not well.

And I think I'm doing well sometimes. And my friend's like, why'd you pay that? I'm like, well. I thought that was not a deal. I thought I got a good deal. No, you didn't. And then my brain also goes, you know, you have way more than that person.

You should be generous. That's what my brain does. Yeah. Like when we were in India, just recently, I took a rickshaw. Is that your heart or your brain? My heart probably, yeah. I was in India, we got a rickshaw.

And in Calcutta, they have the one guy that still pulls you. He's got no shoes on. And he's, the wooden wheel's on this thing, and so he's dragging you through the city. And I go, how much, to take me back to the hotel, he says, 50 rupees. That's 60 cents. 60 cents. That's what it costs.

He gets me there. I only have 500 rupees in my pocket, which is six dollars. I go here. And he's like, and I go, keep it. And then everyone else like why would you do that he's gonna raise his price you're not worried about this guy this guy's running around the city carrying you with no shoes on you're concerned with him raising the fucking price you greedy bastard I don't

like greed but is that the typical profile or is that you that's me yeah that's me for sure that's me. So, you know, back in the days when you could get away with this because there wasn't all the HR stuff they have today, what worked for me was the following. We had all the managers in the office and I was the T.O. guy.

T.O. means you turn it over to this person to come in close. He's the closer that would say, hey, Pat's coming. So you were selling the? I was selling gym memberships, right? And I would. But you know, I'll tell you where the gym membership game went wrong, is when they started doing it and then they would, you would think you're signing up

for a year, but it would be, they'd still be taking it out of your account monthly. Well that was Bally's issue. They would sign a 36 month contract at Bally's. It was five down, 36 month contract, right? And then it would come back down and be like five bucks a month. That was their way of selling. It was auto-renew.

It was auto-renew, 36 months. Yeah, and then guess what? That's why Balis is no longer around. They went out of business and LA Fitness bought them out. But if I knew somebody came in, I would test Armenians out because I'm Armenian, so they would always say, I don't know how to speak Arabic, how many times have I spoken Arabic? I'm not a free Armenian. free, give me something for free. And you have to make them feel like you did.

And God forbid if they find out you're done. That's right, yeah. But when it came down to Indians, if I would come up, say something and I would say, listen, I know one thing you're gonna do today, I'm gonna give you a tour, I'm gonna give you all the deals and you're not gonna buy nothing today. You're to waste an hour of my day and you will not buy nothing. I will buy, I guarantee you won't buy nothing. I won't buy nothing. I know you're

not going to buy nothing. You came with your Mercedes, you're probably a doctor, everything you do, you negotiate hardcore, there's no way, I guarantee you won't buy anything today. You don't think I buy anything, there's no way you're gonna buy something. So you would play on their ego. And you know what happened? They would call the manager. And the manager's my groomsman, I'm my wedding. I'll say, you know what? This man called me cheap.

He says, I am so sorry. I'm so apologetic about the way he behaved. I'm gonna write him up. And then he would give him a tour, come back, sell him the biggest membership they could sell. So the idea was the pride. If God forbid you offended their pride, the fact that they can't afford it, they would pay premium.

Well, that's where you, when you prey on ego, you're always going to win. I had to have a new friend of mine. He's very rich. He wanted to get a, he wanted to rent out the hotel for his wedding. Yeah. The whole hotel. The whole hotel. Yeah. And he's very rich, very, very wealthy kid.

They told him the price and he said, can you do better? And they said, if this price is too high, we suggest you find another hotel. He just preyed on his ego. Oh yeah, fuck you, I'm taking it. You know what I mean? And I've done dumb things like that in the past. I remember getting on a flight one time,

going to get on a flight and they were giving me a hard time. The lady was really rude at the counter, blah, blah, blah. And they're going, you know what, fuck you, I'm gonna take a private jet. And I did. And that little fuck you moment meant nothing to her. She's not even gonna remember it. And I'm the one stuck with the bill now.

Like an asshole. She's watching it right now saying, what? I sold you, I got paid 20% commission on that on the back end yeah right so I mean you know when you play on people's egos people's egos a motherfucker ain't it yeah I mean it's it's all of us a fall for that every once in a while do you think comedy is better today better 20 years ago better 40 years ago or it's good no matter what season it is. I mean it's always good is it as it's not as free but neither is humanity. Free as in what?

I mean just to say whatever you want to say. And not have to worry about anybody else's feelings because you know you watch those roasts from the 70s with Don Rickles and it was there was racial shit being thrown around and sexual shit and and all that stuff, but everybody somehow understood This is just for fun guys. And now people can't separate reality from fun Everything has to be somehow steeped in and in reality. It's like no, this is real. He said that he met it I'm like this not don't want I meant at all Like I give it a one time my wife got mad at me because I meant, you know, I always look at things from the extreme

Hmm. Here's this what's the complete opposite? What's the complete antithesis of this this that's funny then Here's what I said, and she got fucking mad as shit. I mean, I don't get mad at me now I'm just telling him the story and men nothing by it. I Was talking I was on stage and I said I'm in telling him the story, and men, nothing by it. I was on stage and I said, I'm in a great relationship now. I had a wonderful woman, everybody starts clapping. I go, you know, I realized the mistake I used to make. I used to go for these young, hot girls, and who would have known, old and ugly was my sweet spot.

I was just going with the complete opposite. I'm not saying my wife's old and ugly, but I was just trying with the complete opposite. You know what I mean? So I'm not saying my wife's old and ugly, but I was just trying to be fucking funny. And then when I told her, because I got a big laugh, she hung up on me. I was like, what the fuck happened? But did you tell her before you were gonna tell this joke? No, I didn't know, I just made it up on the spot.

I got you. And I was like, oh, this is good, this is good stuff. But sometimes I watched comedians, and for me, I see a pastor tells a story about the son and the son hates the dad. Why would you tell a story of me what I did when I was 11 years old? It's a good sermon. I want to give the sermon, right? So sometimes I wonder same thing happens with comedy. One time I'm watching, have you have you seen the Schultz's recent special, Andrew Schultz's recent special? No, but I love Andrew Schultz. Frickin' ridiculous, this guy. The kid's amazing.

Oh my God, he tells this about the whole thing that they can't have kids, you know, and he's having a hard time having kids, and his wife wants to kind of go through to check. That was hilarious, and then the other one with irresponsible tour with Kevin Hart. I brought Kevin one time to perform at one of our events six years ago.

He came so flippin' hammered, two and a half hours late. I thought this guy wasn't gonna do the whole thing, but he hits the stage and tells the story about when him and his wife are doing their thing in a bedroom and kids walk in and he breaks down every position, how he says, we're playing football. Like literally every position he said, if we're doing this, they come in, Hut, hut, go! And he's say, hey, he pushes the wife up. You just watch, you're like, okay, see, I mean, your kid's gonna see that.

That's gonna be funny as hell. Your wife has to understand she married a comedian. You're gonna say some stuff on your personal life because you gotta draw the stories, right? And they have to accept it. Didn't you once perform for King of Jordan? Well, we're friends. I didn't perform for him.

You didn't, no, he just wanted to meet up and have dinner, and then we subsequently became friends. And that's been 15, 16 years now. Did you ever do an event? Did you ever go? Never, just friend? I had dinner with him a bunch of times, and you know, he's a really amazing guy. He's a really smart, logical man.

Did he at least pay the bill, or was it with... Oh, no, no, we didn't go to a restaurant. You're kidding, we'd go to the palace. That's serious, and literally you're eating like a king. I've had, I think the best steak I've ever eaten in my life was he made it for me as a matter of fact. Get out of here. Yeah, he has a teppanyaki grill.

He cooked it right in front of us. What else did you eat? What do you eat in a palace like that? I don't know, but it was literally, I don't know where they got this. Every time I've eaten with royal people, I understand like, I'm eating dog shit, aren't I? Because these people are eating some good food.

Like every single time I've had, like I've been fortunate enough to meet a few different royal people in my life, and every time I eat their food, I'm like, what the fuck am I eating out here that doesn't taste like, this tastes amazing. Who are some of of the royal people at these like all from the Middle East or? Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of a lot of a lot of Middle Eastern guys They get you gifts like do they get you crazy gifts afterwards or not?

Sometimes I think that's slowed down. Yeah, the economy is kind of better. You're not going. I don't know. I've tried So one time I heard Arnold Palmer tell a story. Okay, and Arnold Palmer the golfer, you know, I've tried. I tried. So one time I heard Arnold Palmer tell a story, okay? And Arnold Palmer, the golfer, you know. Yeah, not the beverage. No, well, you know, when I first met him at this... Arnold Palmer's from La Trobe, Pennsylvania. Is he? Yeah, because my manager, either manager, Paulie, is from La Trobe, and that's one of

his talking points is that Arnold Palmer is from La Trobe. I would have never known La Trobe, and I probably would have butchered how to pronounce it if you wouldn't have is from La Trobe. I would have never known La Trobe and I probably would have butchered how to pronounce it if you wouldn't have first said La Trobe. I would have said La Trobe. I would have pronounced it in a different way. Anyway, so Arnold Palmer tells a story. He says one time I get a call from some sheik or some king from the Middle East that wants him to go golf, 18 holes.

And he says, I just want to watch you. He says, do you want me to do a charity event? No. Do you want me to play against anybody else? No, I just want you to come and do 18 holes. I just want to watch. I love your swing. So I was like, it's kind of weird.

Okay, I'll take the invite. He goes and performs and does his thing. And then afterwards he's at the hotel. The associates from the shake come and they knock on his door. Protocol. Hey, someone on his door. Protocol. Hey, someone let you know. Incredible. He's very grateful for the way you did what you did today. Loves your golf game.

He wants to give you a gift. Arnold's like, no, no, I'm okay. Thank you so much. I already appreciate the hospitality. He says, listen, it's an insult. If you don't let me go back, he wants a gift. He says, no, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, or culturally you can't say no to us. He would like to get you a gift. He says, I'm a golfer, maybe get me like a golf club or something like that. Okay, great.

And he leaves. He comes back. He says he hands me a deed to golf club because they thought I said a country club. They had to give me a country club. They had to do a country club. Can you imagine the amount of wealth? Now whether this story is accurate or not, I don't know, but it's a phenomenal story.

I can see that being true. Yeah, that's why I said, what kind of- Because over there, their wealth is so insane. And when you're, we're not from that part of the world, so if a guy like Rob was like, oh, they want to give you a gift, you're thinking, I don't need another vase. You know what I mean? That's what we're not from that part of the world. So if a guy like Rob was like, oh they want to give you a gift You're thinking I don't need another vase You know, I mean like that's what we're thinking another fucking crystal fruit bowl. I am good

You know, and then they show up with these outrageous gifts, you know One time I was in Saudi Arabia and I I said to the hotel They said how did you sleep and I said I'll be honest. It was literally the most comfortable bed I'd ever slept in in my life. I slept I'll be honest. It was literally the most comfortable bed. I'd ever slept in in my life. I slept Amazing and they go really what part I go from the pillows to the bedsheets to the to the blanket. Everything was amazing I slept so good. I can remember to this day how well I slept in that bed, too. Oh, well, that's great Thank you so much. We'd like the feedback great. I go to I pack up to leave. Yeah, go to my room There's a big box. I go. What's this? They go. It go to my room, there's a big box.

I go, what's this? They go, it's the bedding and all the bed sheets. We're sending it home for you. I'm like, what the fuck? But that's what you call unreasonable hospitality or. Where it's like, how do you reciprocate this? You know, like it's just, cause part of me is like, okay, I appreciate it,

but I need to do something back for you now. When these guys invite you and you go sit down with them, do you kind of feel like they're having dinner with you? Like, okay, make me laugh. Is that how it is or is it just... No, you make them laugh beforehand. And then they invite you, they just want to get to know you. Yeah. I got it. I got it. Yeah.

No, I mean, listen, there are certain places, you know, when you grow up, I don't know if you heard this from your dad, but my dad would say, you think money grows on trees? In the Middle East, I think it does. Some of these places, Saudi, you wrote that. It doesn't grow on trees. It grows in the dirt Yeah, they don't have a lot of trees there. That makes sense. Anyways, brother. This has been great. I hope and I'm optimistic That maybe in the next three six twelve months

We're gonna see Russell Peters in the podcast game I think he's gonna be putting this together for us. guys. Dude, listen, for the people that are watching, send the list of names and tag him. Let him go back to his 3.9 million followers that he has and see who you recommend him doing it with because I would love to see a podcast of you coming back up with the amount of depth you have on these different stories.

God knows how many, and by the way, you know what the easiest thing is to do? Yeah, Ron. No, I'm just reading, oh, made in America. You were born in Iran, made in America? Yeah, so this lady, I was on, I don't know, she's in, I think she was on. I like that you just put the Armenian flag

but didn't put Armenian. Because, you know, Apple, I've been asking Tim Cook, give us an Assyrian flag. He hasn't given us an Assyrian flag. Yeah, is there an Assyrian flag? There is an Assyrian flag, but not on Apple. But the Chaldeans have claimed it? Chaldeans and Assyrians, they compete, but Assyrians.

But they're the same people. Yeah, but they, it's like a. They're both Babylonians. You know Armenians who compete, one is from Yerevan, one is from Iran, one is from. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's the Haia Stansi. Lebanon, they're all here. And then there's the others.

Oh, they, it's a real thing. I call them the off-brand Armenians. Which ones? The any ones that are not Haia Stansi. Was your ex Haia Stansi or was she? No, from Georgia. From Georgia? Yeah.

Interesting, all right, very cool, interesting. So anyways, I'm excited to see you start something. The Handic podcast. The Handic podcast. Handicidana, danicke Dan. What was that song? Remember that song, the Indian song? Okay, then don't worry about it. My dad used to have us watch Indian movies, bro.

I grew up with the SEVs. You did? With the SEVs? Literally? Yeah. You're not joking? No, from the age of four. Did you ever date a SEV? Yeah. But never wanted to marry a SEV or never happened? No, just never, we were never in love. I mean, you know, you don't just marry them

because of whatever, you marry who you think you love. You know, most people don't know this, I dated more sevs than anything else. Really? Yeah. Look at that. Because I was also in two sevs. Yeah, I can tell by your musical taste when you said stuff, I go, mm-mm-mm.

Yeah, they were, they were kinda. Patrick's got a funky side that he hides. Patrick got a funky side that he hides. Patrick's hiding his funky side because he hangs around a lot of white people now. Nobody's gonna take my financial advice Patrick got a fucking side daddy. Patrick's hiding his monkey side because he hangs around a lot of white people. Nobody's gonna take my financial advice from a guy who likes hip-hop. What do you think I should do in the moment? Buy some bitches!

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