PBD Podcast - FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE | BetDavid Podcast | EP 20 PT. 1

Starting point is 00:00:00 I think the first thing for us to talk about before we get right into it is Who's campaigning? Who's raising money? Who has momentum? What's really going on? Kai, can you pull up what what Trump's done lately? Maybe show the picture of Trump's campaign where he's been the last week show the picture where he's been Carolina I send it to you Sam has it Sam did you give that one to him or not yet? I was that that one picture I sent you to where he's been I sent you guys I said air drop it if you don't have that a, uh, uh, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, the last week, rewind it back and play that. President's having, but Joe Biden didn't have any events yesterday.

Starting point is 00:00:48 I'm not saying he should be having unsafe events, but why is he taking a day off with less than three weeks to go before the election? Jake Joe Biden has campaigned tirelessly, but he has campaigned safely. And as you saw this past week during the national town halls that both of them held, it is a sharp contrast between President Trump, who's frenzied, who continues to lie just incessantly morning, noon and night, and former vice president Biden, who is laying out in here. He wanted his office to show. That was right, particularly with suburban women. So if you want to pause this,

Starting point is 00:01:25 if you have the other one, show it to us. So for one week, no one's seen him. And then this is what Trump's been doing campaigning if you got the pick. Do you know the pick I gave you with Sam? There you go. So that's him the last week, okay? Oh, wow.

Starting point is 00:01:43 Ohio, Nevada, Florida, Carolina. I think today he had to sit down with 60 minutes. there you go so that's him the last week okay all i'll Nevada Florida Carolina i think today he had a sit-down with sixty minutes right afterwards they went out there campaigning and so it's gonna be an interesting strategy what do you think about this whole strategy right now because it seems like bydons team is kind of saying

Starting point is 00:01:59 the same thing over and over again he's prepared for the debate he's prepared for the debate he's prepared for the debate he's prepared for the debate while trump is out to campaign campaign who do you think this is benefiting right now going into tonight's debate well you know obviously you're getting a lot more of more energy out of the trump camp but i think from the democrats perspective at this point it's do no harm it's like the hypocritical don't mess up and

Starting point is 00:02:21 you know i i think they're just holding their breath and hoping that the president says something sticks his foot and is mouse somehow. And those are the people that just got in, okay? That doesn't count the people that are probably trying to get in. That's a frenzy, okay? That's a movement right there. What about the fact that Biden is not campaigning because he's scared, because he doesn't want

Starting point is 00:02:41 to face these questions? That is the only reason he is not campaigning right now. You won't get that from CNN because they're not allowed to say Hunter Biden on the air, either as ABC. They don't mention the word one time, Hunter Biden. They do not say it. In my opinion, he's not campaigning because he doesn't want to face these questions. What is he going to do?

Starting point is 00:02:58 Lie? I mean, this is turning into something pretty big and pretty important here in the final week. Adam, what do you think? Well, I mean, he's going to face these questions. Tonight. Tonight, that's the whole point of this. But you see? You see?

Starting point is 00:03:10 Tom, we're about to find out in an hour. I mean, that's what's going to have to do that. The moderator has to ask the questions. Well, I think we can all agree. I'm not saying she will, but she should ask the tough questions to both candidates. Yeah? Well, she should. But we're talking about the big difference.

Starting point is 00:03:23 Wait, wait, wait. She doesn't from working on that. National security is a subject, and this. But she's a big difference. Wait, wait, wait, wait. She doesn't from political. National security is a subject, and this would be a matter of national security, would it not? Alligations involving the Chinese Communist Party would definitely be some aspect of national security. So, especially given what's come out in the media today, because there has been this steady drumbeat from journalists saying, if it can't be corroborated, we can't report on it. Well, if there is corroboration in the form of something on a hard drive, emails from more than one entity, then all of a sudden it's something that the moderator

Starting point is 00:03:52 should be bringing up. Ricky, what do you think? Well, when it comes onto him, I'll get paid you first of all, my grandmother had a saying, I'm going to tell you this, but I'm going to translate it. She said, if you listen to a whole guy, which means that you defend yourself more, just not saying anything. Right? So I actually, if you listen to Jorge Gallardo, right? Which means that you defend yourself more, just not saying anything, right? So I actually, we were talking about it, I don't want to jump ahead of the schedule, but we're talking about, you know,

Starting point is 00:04:12 they're turning off the microphones. I think it's a double, a lot of people don't like it, it's double-led short for me. I think so. I think it's a great idea, because what is Biden going to say for 90 seconds, or two minutes? He's going to go here.

Starting point is 00:04:24 So you give him a chance to put his foot in his mouth. He's gonna do it. And I can't wait for him to do it during this debate if they choose to moderate the time. Ricky, you're you're from where? Where's your family from? Me truck. Now, I call it. She let me truck on me. So, so you're your stuff. You consider your stuff a conservative capitalist? My, my, my, all my dad was an entrepreneur. I've never heard my dad call anybody boss. You know, there are even brothers and sisters. My dad's an entrepreneur and we are conservative

Starting point is 00:04:47 in, we love our country. We love God. We love our families and we like our rights protected. I mean, it's, it's, I think every Hispanic doesn't realize they're conservative or every Latino at least or everybody in general. But I think mostly for us, don't we come from? It's family, God, make your money, take care.

Starting point is 00:05:04 I mean, it's the very, very basics your money, take care, I mean, it's a very basic, so as a Hispanic, I'm more, and we're, by the way, we're pro, we're pro, pro life, right? Because as a matter of fact, a lot of people don't know that some people might agree, some people might agree. I know some parts of the Catholic religion depending on where you live, do not even allow people to use condoms,

Starting point is 00:05:21 which makes sense where grandparents had so many kids. So we are about life. And I'm looking at a lot of, you know, modern Hispanics are progressive Hispanics that don't want God involved, right, in the system. Don't have a big problem whenever you're talking about pro-life or pro-choice. And they're getting away from the values of principles that our grandfather, our grandparents, and our parents taught us. So the ones that want to treat, I'm like, you it are I'm a Latino on Hispanic class. If you're really that way that you are naturally conservative. You remember when George W ran for his second term as Texas governor. It was a Hispanic landslide here in Texas. Landslide by the Hispanic community. Right. So I mean you you are absolutely

Starting point is 00:06:02 correct. I grew up in San Antonio, Texas, but you're absolutely correct that it is all about God and family. It is a great point. Why do you think? I mean, you get into it with your community a lot. You get into it all the time. You know, you've converted a lot of people to get into it the way you're thinking of who they really are, but why do you think a lot of Hispanics is the fastest-grown community

Starting point is 00:06:21 in America, population-wise, voting-wise? I mean, it's the future of the way it's going right now. Democrat? Yeah, demographic change. Why do you think they vote? 64% vote Democrat. So I have to go a little deeper. Okay, so my dad, when my dad was 15 years old,

Starting point is 00:06:36 living in Mexico, the Bible was on his Spanish. I mean, we don't speak Spanish, we speak Castellano. Castellano. Castellano, we speak Castellano. The Bible in Mexico was Latin. Up until my dad was 50 years old. My dad is who's born 1957. So figure up until the late 60s, early 70s, the Bible was in, was in Spanish, it was in Latin. Okay. But the Catholic religion,

Starting point is 00:06:56 or just religion in general, in Mexico has been there since after they killed the Aztecs off in the Mayans. So the reality is this, my dad says, I don't even know why I follow some religion, it's just because they told me, hey, this is a Bible, Kistam, it's a word of God. So what is it teacher us about Hispanics? We're very trusted you, right? So we might not even be able to read it, but if you say it enough, by the way, hit your city, say the lie, repeat the lie, they'll believe the lie, right? I'm not talking about the religion, I'm just saying as a Hispanic community in Mexico, we're very trusting when you say we want to help you. We're very trusting. So whenever you jump on the news like Telemundo o Nibisión and you listen to

Starting point is 00:07:32 Jorge Ramos, which is supposed to be for us, and you say, this is an orange band bad. You're like, yes, you don't, you don't do your homework, you don't do your research, you don't, you don't dig deeper. Just because another man with your same skin color from your same country, there's also an immigrant says so, you don't dig deeper. Just because another man with your same skin color from your same country, that is also an immigrant, says so, you believe him. That's the problem with the Hispanic community. Nobody goes deeper. Everybody just says, oh, Mexican must have my interest

Starting point is 00:07:55 and my best interest at heart, I'm gonna believe him. So when you start looking at how we're reading through all the laws and everything, you know, for example, I mean, here we are, we have Hispanings voting for the man that was a vice president. What four million people got deported, the most in history. On top of that, the cages were built when he was a vice president. So you're talking about a ra, you, if you're a Trump, you're bad. You're, you're a traitor, but you were voting for the man that was vice president for

Starting point is 00:08:20 eight years. As are people got deported and built the cages, you're hypocritical, but you don't only better because Jorge Ramos Telemondo in Ovisión told you not to believe that. Well, I will speak in defense of many people from Mexico who were not too terribly impressed with the idea of a wall. 100%, 100%. So I'm just saying. Yes, I said it yesterday, posted on Facebook.

Starting point is 00:08:42 A lot of people, the Wallars racist, every single president has added to the wall, right? Every president. A Barack Obama said that he was gonna go against, the anchor baby thing, he's the one that brought it up. So as a wall, I put it on Facebook, I guess you're like, okay, if you don't believe in the wall, you don't believe in ice, which is basically the security, the cops or the border, it's very simple.

Starting point is 00:09:01 Open, put on social media, what your ad just says. Open up your windows, open up your doors, and don't call the cops one stranger's coming to your house. Because they might be hard working in Americans. That sounds like New York City these days. That's an in a big sense. Well, I've converted so many people. But if you don't like a wall, do the trial at your house first. Before you want us to open up our country, why don't you open up your house first? Go open up your door, you window, leave them open all day on night, let anybody come

Starting point is 00:09:27 in. What are your refrigerator, take your food, do whatever, sleep in whatever room they want? And just not know who they are. Don't ask them for right, need, don't ask them for blood, don't ask because who knows? I mean, they might just be good, hardworking and balanced. So Ricky, they take the newscaster, sir, right? It still has that much power as an anchor. 100% a news anchor to a certain extent is equivalent to a priest because you just think

Starting point is 00:09:49 they're Hispanic. They're the I watch. You got to think this from the morning to then they watch the morning news. Tell and Ovelas, which are so poppers. Tell and Ovelas. Tell and Ovelas. People live for the novel as a Hispanic community. It is, I grew up around the like one of my crush crushes, her name is Rui, some of my, his

Starting point is 00:10:05 Spanish followers, and you remember, it was a soap opera called Rui. And so they watched these people from morning to night. So they almost allow them into their room. That's my dream job to be on a soap opera. Oh my God, you look like a soap opera guy. I mean, if you look at that, he looks like a soap opera guy. And that's your job, right? I got a question.

Starting point is 00:10:23 I got a question. I was wondering for me, I'm a very, very guys. And that's your job, right? I'm a dumb ass. What? I got a question for you. Prugunta for me, I'm a Viori Amigo Ricardo. Yes. So you said you think the wall is racist? No, no, no. I said Hispanics think the wall is a sub-Espanic wall. I'm trying to divert from 100 Biden by talking about the wall.

Starting point is 00:10:37 Are we talking about 100? Wait, we're talking about the wall. We're talking about Hispanics. Every sovereign country has a wall and so they should. Okay, cool. I'm with you. I said multiple times that people like you that look like you tied it up gangsters, I might say, need to actually join the Republican Party, which you are and run for office. You can talk about it all you want unless you run for office and someone sees, damn, that

Starting point is 00:11:00 dude Ricky is my guy. It's all just mouth talk. I'm just taking care of him. So when someone, when someone like you runs for office, that's when people are gonna wake up. Okay, that's number one. Number two. But is this the truth though?

Starting point is 00:11:12 Because major is running for office right now, and you don't see a whole lot of California. He's running against news, he's a black Republican. That's I'm not talking about. I'm talking about Latinos. I'm talking about Latinos here. But the black community is just as tight as our community. So if that was a case

Starting point is 00:11:25 And why is it made sure making any noise in California? Well, let's talk about numbers now. Okay, Pat said 65% Let's 16.65% of Latinos for the Democrats that's 35% Republican 90% of African Americans vote Democrat right? Okay, what is Trump doing? I see what you're saying. What is Trump doing? To bring more Latinos into the Republican Party. What is Trump doing to bring more Latinos into the Republican Party? What is Trump doing to bring more African Americans into the community? Because in my opinion, he's not helping. No, I agree with you Adam. Here's the thing, you can remember, Hispanics are very emotional people.

Starting point is 00:11:59 You know who else is emotional? Yes, everybody. Everybody. But Latinos for sure. They were extra emotional. Like we cry on the soap operas. Does it make sense? Like, you know what I'm saying? There's a lot of Latino friends out there.

Starting point is 00:12:09 We cry in the soap operas. Like, we're such a dumb opera. It's a soap operas. No, but we take it so serious. The problem is, the problem is, in the Hispanic community, we take things that we shouldn't take as serious, very serious, and things that we should take serious, not as serious.

Starting point is 00:12:24 So I'm sitting here, I was having a conversation with an individual, you have a shorty on Facebook as well, through a messenger. If I can show you all the bills in the laws and everything that Trump has done to have to Hispanic community, would that change your mind? No, why? Because F-Trump. To not hear the fact. No, they don't want to hear emotional creatures. It's emotional, no, no. Of course. They're extra emotional creatures. You're saying that? But the fact. No, they don't want to hear emotional creatures. It's emotional, no, no. Of course. They're extra emotional creatures. You see, most people are emotional, but your Latinos are extra. That's why my wife is right here.

Starting point is 00:12:50 That's why I love being married to a Mexican woman because I'm very passionate. But that passion comes in a cost. Yes, it should cut you. That passion's going to come out of cost. So, sometimes, Erica just, just like a put away the knife. She just, sometimes she just eats the bone.

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Starting point is 00:13:38 Not to build a wall that these people are coming across the border, they're rapists, they're drug dealers. Those are sound bites. Those are sound bites. Those are sound bites. That was his first speech. That was his inauguration to campaign. Well, the campaign was 13. And Mr. Team gang rape women in and some of the initiations are to gang rape or to murder.

Starting point is 00:13:56 So if I grab a bunch of sound bites and say, oh, you grab, he said that we're racist, murderers, drug dealers. And he says, I'm assuming some people are good. Well, let me, let me, I'll put it to you this way. If I'm at your door with 15 different people, I said, I don't, let me in, but you don't know any of them. Are you gonna assume they're all good? Or are you gonna say, I don't know any of you guys.

Starting point is 00:14:17 You can't, I can't assume that you're good. I have to assume that you're getting hard by family inside my house. I have to assume. Let's step back for a minute. Two times now in public. Trump has been given the opportunity to denounce white supremacists. 29 times he's done it.

Starting point is 00:14:33 But two big stages. Tonight's is third opportunity to say, yes. People who are against people of color are not with me. This is this third opportunity on a big, big, big stage to go there. Do you think he's gonna go there? But he just did it on the town hall. And he said, how many times do I have to do it?

Starting point is 00:14:51 But at what point will it be enough for him to do it? Can I answer that? Is there like an official time he can do it? Like frustrated by answering it. Like Tom, are you a racist? You. I don't play those games. I don't want, I don't want, I don't want,

Starting point is 00:15:01 you're not gonna answer what you have been doing. I, I, that's, I, that's, do you want to answer it? What's the, to add a point to add a point to answer it? I'm not sure to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games.

Starting point is 00:15:09 I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games.

Starting point is 00:15:17 I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. I don't want to play those games. There's a part of it, but there's a part of it. There's a part of it that the question makes the audience assume that at one point he

Starting point is 00:15:27 was. So the question itself has a lot of power behind it. So even when somebody says, do you still hit your wife? I've never hit my wife before. If I ask you three times in three separate interviews, the audience is going to be like, maybe he does it as well. Nobody knows about it. The questions have a lot of power behind them.

Starting point is 00:15:43 You sit there and you watch questions being asked on both sides, it's not the same thing. Anyways, what this was good for, if you didn't know Ricky, now you know Ricky, this is who Ricky is, you know his position. Since we have some stuff we got it before we get into the debate, can you pull up, how much money Trump has raised versus Biden? Because Biden's been on fire lately, raising money, pull up the data. Here's what it's looking like. So Biden's raised $1.35 billion so far. Trump's raised $1.49 billion.

Starting point is 00:16:13 So even though it looks good that Trump's raised more, if you're looking the light blue and the light pink in September alone, Biden's raised $358, Trump won $153, nearly 20 half times more. If you go a little lower to see what these numbers are looking like where it's coming from, that September we kinda looked at number. Go lower, there's one of the things I wanted to show on how the numbers look, Trump victory, okay, those are, keep going lower, is that it?

Starting point is 00:16:40 Guys, are anything lower or no? Okay, that's what I wanna look at, okay, so you see this spike right here, you see the hockey stick. So what does that hockey stick represent? Is it representing the last minute panic? Is it representing? You know, Bloomberg just came in and cut a big check and that helps the number tremendously. Is it represent?

Starting point is 00:16:57 What is that hockey stick representing? Is it we better figure this thing out because with this guy gets in and stays in other four years, we're all screwed. What is that? It's not even, it's not even a day because you just don't ramp up the TV commercials and think it's going to sway anything. Who watches TV anymore? Who watches these commercials?

Starting point is 00:17:14 People that have already made up their mind. More people. You know anybody that really watches the news or watches network television from 8 till 10? I don't, nobody else does. Here's the other thing about Trump. You think he's lacking in TV coverage? He goes to these swing states, draws 25,000 people at a rally and owns the news cycle.

Starting point is 00:17:33 People can see through these ads. There's no one stupid enough that would listen to a TV commercial right now and think, man, a light bulb just went off. I like this body. The light bulb went off after the debate. You know what that money is? The fundraising book. A big part of that would, I mean, that was a huge deal. I like this body. But the light bulb went off after the debate. You know, with that money, the fundraising book, a big part of that, I mean, that was a huge deal. 200 million of it.

Starting point is 00:17:49 But do you think that's a problem? That's a individual, don't you? Do you think the individual money is an issue right now? Do you think if some, if either side needed money right now, they would have it in a second. It's how they prioritize it. I don't think Trump is prioritizing TV ads right now. And the other thing is, there is a chance that one of these sides no more than we do. This polling data might be inaccurate.

Starting point is 00:18:09 He might not need to have any TV commercials as the general populist thinks that he does. Well, where it will be effective? Nationally, I think maybe you're right. Locally in swing states, in certain cities in Wisconsin, in Detroit, in certain cities in North Carolina, in certain cities in Wisconsin, in Detroit, in certain cities in North Carolina, in certain cities in Florida, in certain cities in Arizona. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that.

Starting point is 00:18:33 I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that.

Starting point is 00:18:41 I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. I'm not trying to make that. And that's going to make almost as much of a difference as who's president. And that's where a lot of money in, and that's where the ad is going to bring out to. Right. I mean, you're not going to get legislation done if you can't flip one of the houses. It's just not happening.

Starting point is 00:18:52 You'll have more gridlock. I have to say, you know what, really worried me and a lot of people don't, I forgot who was saying that. I think it was, maybe it was CNN because I watched CNN because I just, if I want to be entertaining here a bunch of lives, I'll watch CNN. So, anyway, when is this? Somebody said, I can't remember if it was Komu or if it was Lemon, he said, if I didn't become president, he needs to pack the court. That's scary. It hasn't happened in 150 years. You're so saying when you're already insinuating

Starting point is 00:19:23 that's the president, this is what you should do, that's a very scary language. And this goes back to a little bit of what Pat was saying. These are the things that our Hispanic committee doesn't hear. They don't know deep enough issues. They don't know that packing the court is a horrible thing to do. And nor should you do it. But when you have anchors of people that are naive, listening to them, and you say, pack, that's very, that's a scary thing.

Starting point is 00:19:46 I mean, anybody voting for body, you should do your homework and realize that because if, I mean, should Trump pack the house, I mean, what should you do or pack the court? What should you do? What are you doing? I'm doing it now. I don't think it's a naive atay on the Latino community. I don't think most people ever have even heard of. I'm acting like a month ago.

Starting point is 00:20:03 I'm acting like a month ago. Who are you talking about? I've been 40 years years on this point i've never heard back in the court but this is not back in the club when you're in the club gets to pull but this is a whole new situation the the new situation of it it's a scary thought that the anchors that are influencing everyday americans are saying this well joe Biden did say that he will make an announcement on packing the court before he's before that. That's true, he has.

Starting point is 00:20:26 So let's see if he does it. The good news is, for people who don't do their own fact checking, the independent organizations that follow Americans reading the Constitution, the American readership of the U.S. Constitution has gone through the roof. And there's no social media and it's a beautiful thing about that. I mean, it is so awesome. It's like what people didn't do in high school, they're going back and doing and we're learning about our founding fathers and our roots.

Starting point is 00:20:46 I mean, there's some pretty awesome stuff happening because Americans are curious because all they hear sound bites. They don't get any substance. They're like, okay, I'm going to go find out for myself. The faith that I'm helping, they're not getting any substance in the baits because some people are actually the questions other people are interrupting people. The mirror, maybe it is a problem. I'll see them.

Starting point is 00:21:03 I mean, two minutes each. You know, how do you feel about the microphone muting after two minutes? Muting before two minutes. I mean, you've got meaning before. No, I don't mind that. Not when you've got 13 minutes to have a food fight after per question.

Starting point is 00:21:16 13 minutes is plenty of time for them to go after each other. So you like the muting? Just for the first two minutes, I mean, I'm sorry, whether it's Biden or Trump, if you can't have 120 seconds, there's the leader of the free world. No, I think he is. I think he's getting a force Biden to talk more tonight. Yeah. And that's a brilliant idea.

Starting point is 00:21:34 That's always going to hurt himself. I think if Trump can stick with his game plan tonight, which is a big whatever. That's a huge relief. But I think that's part of their strategy. Is like Biden kind of, you know, By the way, he's a problem. He's a problem. Today, a lot of things have happened today. Okay.

Starting point is 00:21:48 A lot. One Amy, Coney Barrett, they moved it for 12 Democrats that didn't show up. So 1210, if you want to put it there were 12 zero for them not showing up to George Floyd. You heard about Chauvin, you know, the whole thing. They didn't think that the third degree murder could stick. Yeah, so that's the second thing that happened today, which again, more frustration. Thank third, the Sasha Cohen Borat II clip came out with Rudy Giuliani. In the interview, he got spooked, and it was hilarious.

Starting point is 00:22:16 I know you've been following the story. I mean, that in itself is crazy. That wasn't what I was thinking when it came to October surprise. That was so much. That was my radar story. Okay. when it came to October surprise. Oh, that was so much. That was my radar story. Oh, okay. Before it's timing have been any better. This is you, you know how they do the time one.

Starting point is 00:22:31 If he's not in the top one, I mean, this guy is a brilliant mind. And the great thing about him, you don't hear from him, you're in between. He doesn't like being under the radar. He doesn't do anything. So that's that part.

Starting point is 00:22:41 And then on top of that, we had a couple other stories. You had 60 minutes. Tony Tony. We had 60 minutes. Tony Tony. We had 60 minutes, which is the 60 minutes, the interview that. Yeah. Leslie Stahl. With Leslie Stahl.

Starting point is 00:22:51 And then they did it with Biden. I think even Pence and Trump, and she was upset at Pence. And she says. She's never interviewed Biden. Yeah. There was confusion there on the president's part. She has personally never interviewed Biden. 60 minutes has.

Starting point is 00:23:04 60 minutes has interviewed Biden, And- 60 minutes has. 60 minutes has interviewed Biden, but not Leslie. Right. And I mean, after listening to 30 minutes, that was like two people attacking each other. So he was attacking her as a person like her. So yeah, she's on the air anyway. So he's always uncomfortable. Well, but-

Starting point is 00:23:14 You see the first time she interviewed him or no? Probably. When he became a president, like four years ago. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, and in that whole part, but the biggest factor about this is it's supposed to be launched in Sunday. So it would come- Probably because pen set for the whole interview. Yeah, he did.

Starting point is 00:23:28 So they have, they have, they have plenty to put on the air. Well, you watch the whole thing. I watch the whole thing. What do you think about it? Because before anything. I can't say it like, I can't say what it looked like. This is the biggest and the whole thing. I'm like, you imagine you're an actor, you're in a movie, your girl is recording a scene, and before

Starting point is 00:23:46 the movie comes out, you publicize the scene to everybody. So 60 minutes is doing the interview, somebody sit in the recording him, before 60 minutes place it on Sunday, he plays it so everybody can not say that he walked out. Goes live with it, what was your take-a-win you watched it? So, I mean, again, it wasn't, I didn't take away anything of substance from it. And that is an increasing source of frustration, I think. I don't care who you're talking about. Democrats or Republicans, you're like, I want to learn what they think about that's substantive

Starting point is 00:24:15 instead of just listening to two people fight. If I'm going to listen to two people fight, you know, I wouldn't put my- I'm Italian, I mean, I could just go find a relative. So, but I don't. I mean, I'd rather hear policy, and I think that's what Americans are ready for. She obviously, they both got hot under the collar. Do you think of the thing as they pointed it? She was irritated and he was irritable, sorry?

Starting point is 00:24:36 Do you think it was smart on his and to put it on his face? No, no, no, no. My second master's is in journalism. So, I think he crossed a very dark line. Oh my God, I just didn't read that. What did they do wrong? I mean, you come to his house, you roll cameras. You didn't break into CBS and steal video tape. They didn't. They broke with protocol. And that was just they're not going to not air what happened

Starting point is 00:24:58 between the two of them. It's just you're going to get to see both of their faces. What CBS is doing. That's right now. Do you understand the numbers on Sunday night? Because people are going to be people are going to know what, CBS is doing fashion right now. Do you understand the numbers on Sunday night? Because people are going to be- Oh, Sunday nights going to be- People are going to know what their version of what happened is. Right, but we're talking about right and wrong. And what he did was not right.

Starting point is 00:25:13 Yeah, but I mean, is it fair to say that they've also done the safety to him with the whole collusion with Russia? I mean, my point is, had anything of substance come out of the 37 minutes? But for me, it was just a stunt. It was all of the 37 minutes, but for me it was just a stunt. That was all I was lying in. He walked out of the interview and he wanted to set the record straight. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Starting point is 00:25:31 He didn't stay for the entire interview. They said, sir, you've got five minutes left on air and he said, no. And I mean, he didn't like rip off his microphone and storm out, but he did. I mean, can you pull it up? But he did get up and leave. He did get up and leave. He did get up and leave. He did get up and leave. He did get up and leave. He did get up and leave. He did get it up? But he did get up and leave. The Trump's Facebook, it's not really, you know, if you go to Trump's Facebook page,

Starting point is 00:25:47 I hope you don't need to log on. But he could have just as easily played that one little segment that showed I didn't storm off. You know what, I think the biggest motivation for the people, the journalists doing the interviews is they want to impress their peers. They're doing these interviews for the kudos that they get from their colleagues and their bosses. And they go in there with, she could have got some substantial information and really

Starting point is 00:26:08 answer some questions you never had, but they're so busy being in attack mode and trying to impress their peers. Keep going. No, keep going. No, right. It's about to come to the next one, I think. Well, they took it down. No, that's it.

Starting point is 00:26:19 Okay. So make it bigger. Make it bigger. It's amazing. They have a thing. Go to 30, go to 36 minutes. Here's how it ends. Raise the volume.

Starting point is 00:26:29 Okay, plate. 4.7 million views in six hours. That's a very fush in the back. That's what he wanted. That's what he wanted. He wanted the view. I didn't want to have this. I kind of wish he did.

Starting point is 00:26:43 No, I didn't wish he did. Well, then he brought up a lot of subjects that were inappropriate. Well, I see. They were inappropriate. They were inappropriate. Right from the beginning. Thank you for this question. This is going to be tough questions.

Starting point is 00:26:55 When you set up the interview, you first statement. You first said it. You first said it. Don't you think you don't know? You first said it. You first said it to me. This is going to be tough questions. Well, I don't know. You're first statement to me. This is going to be tough questions. No, I don't mind that.

Starting point is 00:27:08 But you set up the interview, you didn't say that. You said, oh, let's have a lovely interview. And here's what I do. So far. You don't ask Joe Biden. I saw your interview with Joe. The interview. I never did it, Joe.

Starting point is 00:27:20 It wasn't Joe. The interview, 60 minutes. I see Joe Biden giving softball, I have to a joke. It wasn't joke. The interview, 60 minutes, I see Joe Biden giving softball after softball. I've seen all of his interviews. He's never been asked a question that's hard. Okay, but you started with me. You're a president.

Starting point is 00:27:36 Excuse me, Leslie, you started with me. You're first statement, Leslie. Are you ready for tough questions? Yeah. It's no way to go late. Less than one second, we're... This is the first warning that we have five minutes until we have the vice president set this up.

Starting point is 00:27:56 Well, I think we have enough. Hey, really, we have enough. I think we have enough with an interview. So, you know, if it's his aids comes out and rescues him. Okay, he just gave her 40 minutes. But Daniel, if there's anybody, here's a thing. I get how frustrating he could be, but if there's anybody in politics that is definitely not one that's sway, you know, avoids being interviewed and doesn't go into a heat, you

Starting point is 00:28:22 know, sitting on this guy. Everybody else, Obama did a once with, what do you call it? be an interview that doesn't go into a heat, you know, sitting on this guy. Everybody else, Obama did a once with, what do you call it? He sat down once with Hannity, not Hannity, or I remember that one interview. And you never saw it again. He'll go on CNN, Fox, MSN, he'll go anywhere to do it. So I don't think it's the thing about him wanting to step away. She flipped her request that she had at the beginning. My only thing is I'm sitting there sitting down, okay, why did he share it? So is he sharing it because he doesn't want anything to be asked tonight that's going to hurt him?

Starting point is 00:28:53 Is he trying to, what's his motive of sharing this? That's what I'm trying to find out. I think he's sharing it to give a glimpse of what the motivation is with the media. And just how they try to spin something and how. I get the whole white today. Like why did he do it today? the motivation is with the media. And just how they try to spin something and how. I get the whole white today. Like, why did he do it today? What was in here, he was worried about the debate tonight.

Starting point is 00:29:10 Okay, did it not get people stopped talking about Rudy Giuliani? And it stopped that. I'm saying, I think the strategy. One thing that was stood out was there's no corroboration. It cannot be verified. That was, it was said over because the Hunter Biden business came up probably four or five times in the 35 minutes they spoke.

Starting point is 00:29:26 And she kept repeating after herself, it can't be verified. We cannot report on it. If it cannot be corroborated, what if Trump knew this was coming out? What if Trump knew that corroboration itself was coming out today? What matter time and could there be? On which site? On. On his?

Starting point is 00:29:41 On his? That actual, they could validate these emails, right? And prove them that the CEO of a company maybe- The gentleman who came out and said, I have the physical emails in my possession that the post published. So why don't we go to- So that is straight forward corroboration. And that's what you said before, right?

Starting point is 00:29:57 When we weren't even recording. So check this out, I said, there's been five big stories today, right? We talked about Amy Coney Barrett, George Floyd, Rudy Giuliani, the 60 minutes in this guy. Here's what he says, before even watching this. And by the way, generation after generation in the Navy, this guy. This guy was friends. If you haven't seen this, by the way, he may actually be at the debate tonight.

Starting point is 00:30:18 Trump is trying to bring him to the debate tonight. Similar to our last time, he brought Bill Clinton's. The mistresses. Yeah. Accusers. Accusers. – Yeah. – Accusers. – Accusers. – Not mischievous. Accusers. – Oh, what?

Starting point is 00:30:29 – And he's trying to do the same thing on how to do that. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing.

Starting point is 00:30:37 – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. – Accusing. and he drops the bomb in the first two minutes press play on this one that's he is uh... talk to the media right now

Starting point is 00:30:47 since leaving the navy i've been involved in very successful businesses both in this country abroad i'm making a statement to set the record straight about the involvement of the body family by president by his brother jim by and his son hunter by

Starting point is 00:30:59 in dealing with the chinese i've heard your body say that he's never discussed business with hunter that is false i first had knowledge about this because i directly dealt with the Chinese. I have heard Joe Biden say that he's never discussed business with Hunter. That is false. I first hand knowledge about this because I directly dealt with the Biden family including Joe Biden. I have also heard that Vice President Biden said on Tuesday that Senator Ron Johnson, the chair of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, should be ashamed for suggesting that Biden family sought to profit from their name. Well, here are the facts I know, and everything I'm saying is cooperated by emails, WhatsApp chats, agreements, documents, and other evidence.

Starting point is 00:31:28 And the American people can judge for themselves. I brought, I guess, for record three phones. Just a few years, 2015 through 2015. That is unbelievable. You've never been held by anybody else besides myself. I was told it's past Sunday, but somebody was also not a cop. That's a bad information. It would vary all the time. You just showed phones? Why is that bad? I was told it's fast Sunday but somebody was also not a matter.

Starting point is 00:31:45 It was a matter of information. It would vary all the amount. He just showed phones. Why is that bad? If everything of the text is in there, it's almost. What's the confusion? Have you been to Democrats?

Starting point is 00:31:54 What do you mean? I'm asking. What do you think? OK, let him finish. You're actually asking that question. I don't know what's in the phones. He just showed me everything. What do you say to him in the phones?

Starting point is 00:32:03 The emails in this book in the New York Post, he has a conversation with me. Why didn't you do this weeks ago, months ago? He has the politics, man. He has the best of the day, the way he works. Because they're holding on to something, go back, because we have to hear what this guy is saying. They're holding on to something.

Starting point is 00:32:19 So go back to hear the keywords. Go back. I think it's like at 40 seconds let him play again because i think adamist it folks are for you as adam uh... uh... maybe very good with finances when it comes up to selected hearing he doesn't hear the things that he doesn't want to hear you show me three phones i can't go ahead go ahead go ahead there's a lot of drunken

Starting point is 00:32:39 i'm going to be a president by the set on Tuesday that senator ron johnson the chair of the senate homeland security committee to be ashamed for suggesting that by Biden family sought to profit from their name Well here are the facts I know and everything I'm saying is cooperated by emails what's app chats agreements documents and other evidence Pause okay go back one more time for nine seconds Adam listen very carefully to what he says it's proper everything He's saying I got it again and very carefully to what he says it's proper everything he said I got it again and family sought to profit from their name well here are the facts I know and everything I'm saying is cooperated by emails WhatsApp chats agreements documents

Starting point is 00:33:13 and other evidence yeah and the American people can judge for themselves I guess he's got a lot of money right now he's a campaigning he used the cooperation word he said cooperating and he's showing you where the evidence lives I Was told it fast Sunday, but somebody who I just listen involved in this matter that if I would public this information It would it would bury all of us man the Biden's included. I have no wish to bury anyone I've never been political the few contributions. I've made have been the Democrats But what I am is a injury and a veteran

Starting point is 00:33:44 To protect my family name and my business reputation. I need to ensure that the Democrats. But what I am is a danger and a veteran. To protect my family name and my business reputation, I need to ensure that the true facts are out there. In late 2015, I was approached by James Gillier, whom I had known for many years, about joining him in a deal when he said would involve the Chinese state-owned enterprise, CFC China, energy, and what he called one of the most prominent families

Starting point is 00:34:01 in the United States. I was informed first by Gillier and then by Hunter Biden and by Rob Walker, who was working with the Biden's, that the Biden's wanted to form a new entity with CFC, which was to invest in infrastructure, real estate, and technology in the U.S. and around the world. And the entity would initially be capitalized with $10 million, and then grow to billions of dollars of investment capital. After months of discussion, I agreed a Gilear and Hunter Biden's request to become CEO of

Starting point is 00:34:25 the entity to be called Sinohawk. Sino representing the Chinese side, hawk representing Hunter Biden's brother Bo's favorite animal. Now between February and May 2017, we exchanged numerous emails, documents, and WhatsApp messages concerning Sinohawk and its potential business. On May 2nd, 2017, the night before Joe Biden was to appear at the Milken Conference, I was introduced to Joe Biden by Jim Biden and Hunter Biden. At approximately an hour long meeting with Joe that night we discussed the Biden's history, the Biden's family business plans with the Chinese, with which he was plainly familiar, at least at a high level.

Starting point is 00:34:56 After that meeting I numerous communications with Hunter Walker, Gilear, and Jim Biden, regarding the allocation of the equity ownership of Sinowong. On May 13, 2017, I received an email concerning allocation of equity, which says 10% held by H for the big guy. In that email, there's no question that H stands for Hunter, big guy for his father, Joe Biden, and Jim for Jim Biden. In fact, Hunter often referred to as the big guy or my chairman. On numerous occasions, it was made clear to me that Joe Biden's involvement

Starting point is 00:35:23 was not to be mentioned in writing, but only to face. In fact I was advised by Gillier and Walker that Hunter and Jim Biden were paranoid about keeping Joe Biden's involvement secret. How bad is this? I also had a disagreement with Hunter about the fun CSC was contributing to signing off. It's a movie. You couldn't make this happen. Hunter wanted 5 million of those funds to go to himself and his family. So he wanted the funds wired directly to an entity affiliated with him. I objected because I was contrary. We did speed it up if you're watching this. We have one point five. Never put it in the chair. One point two five. Father, that CSC was really investing in the Biden family. That he held a Trump card and that he was the one putting his family legacy on the line. He also said to me on May 17,

Starting point is 00:36:02 2017 that CSC wanted to be my partner to be partner with the Biden. During these negotiations, I repeated a hunter and other that Sino-Hot could not be Hunter's personal piggy bank. And I demanded that proper corporate governance procedures be implemented for capital distributions. Hunter became very upset with me. I think timing. CSC through July 2017 was assuring me the funds would be transferred to Sino-Hawk, but

Starting point is 00:36:29 they were never sent to our company. Instead, I found out from Senator Johnson's September report that the $5 million was sent in August 2017 to entities affiliated with Hunter. Tomorrow, I will be meeting with the Senate Committee members concerning this matter, and I will be providing to the FBI the devices which contain the evidence, cooperating, what I've said. So I will not be taking any questions at this time. Wow.

Starting point is 00:36:53 Did you hear that, David? Yes. Were you said that they moved the money to Hunter? They kicked him out of the deal. Yes. So he pissed. Yes. That's unbelievable.

Starting point is 00:37:03 What do you think about this, Adam? Adam, tell us. What do you think about this? I mean, I think Joe Biden just dropped out of the race right now. Oh, that's funny. You just dropped out. I know you're emotionally pissed off, but what do you think about this? Okay, some dude shows up the day before like I've never heard of this guy and all of a sudden I'm supposed to be like defending this or that the other. How pissed would you be if you got screwed over in a deal?

Starting point is 00:37:20 Like what are his what's his reasonings? Not bad enough. Let me ask you. You asked the worst times. Let me ask you. Let me ask you a different way. Here's a different question for you. So when the dossier came out, everybody's famous question was what, what if this is true? What should they do to Trump, right? What if this is true? Yeah, there's going to be legal ramifications. What if this is true? Just going to be legal ramifications, right?

Starting point is 00:37:47 What do you mean, what? What if frickin' knows? I just heard of Joe Baba Lysky for like this minute and a half. We watched him. No clue. They've been talking about Hunter Biden for years now, and they've nothing stuck. Biden's winning in the polls still, despite Joe Hunter Biden's salacious activity. Is this gonna be enough to put him over the top?

Starting point is 00:38:08 We'll see. They should bring this up in the meantime. I'm not asking if it is anything to put him over the top. Does it do anything for you as a voter? What? There's some dude speaking for a minute and a half. It doesn't do anything for you. This does zero for me.

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Starting point is 00:38:30 What's his motivation for lying? If everything can be proven, if everything can be proven, that these talks have been had, and that is the agreement, where are you at for you? Where are you at position wise? Some dude, making a speech does nothing for me. If actually legal ramifications happen, then yeah. How many times did you bring up Russia with Trump? Did I? Yeah. We can go on the entire podcast, run it back every single time. Zero. Of course, it was because it was done. The prior to that, what did you think when you saw the Russia thing with Trump?

Starting point is 00:39:08 Trump's up to some shady stuff with Russia. You thought about that. They've got stuff. Why you jumped to conclusion? That was never the case. It came back to it. It was all over the TV for years. Wait a minute, this is on TV.

Starting point is 00:39:16 So you believe that way you don't believe this? This is on TV for a minute and a half, fat. Well, wait, the window was a bit... You know what? Here's how much Trump fan now. Because the Joe Bowling is key. It's not a... What are you trying to say? It's not about being a Trump fan now because the Joe Bowel is not what he's trying to say. It's not about being a Trump fan.

Starting point is 00:39:27 How many people hate Trump on the Republican side? Yeah. Ted Cruz talked shit about him. Lindsey Graham talked shit about him. Jeb Bush talked shit about him. Every single one of these guys talked shit about him. And what did you say? Well, of course, they lost to him.

Starting point is 00:39:40 He slaughtered them. Why would he not be spitefully against them? So this dude got screwed over by a hundred by deal That's why we don't let me just Hold it for stories because you don't put yourself out and make yourself the biggest name in the country now right before the alike his life's Endangered literally You don't do Because he's got so much integrity because he said he's a patriot. Yes. He's a patriot. He's a patriot.

Starting point is 00:40:05 What would he be talking about? He's talking about stuff that happened. He's $217, $117 because he's seen a corruption election. He's a patriot. He's a patriot. And here's what I said on the podcast last week that they laughed at me. Deep down, I don't think Biden wants to win this election. I don't think he wants to be president.

Starting point is 00:40:25 He knows everything that's in his background. It's a house of cards. It's going to come crumbling down. He wouldn't, no one isn't. It's not stupid. He would prefer not to win the presidency. And he's done this every single day. He's raised a billion and a half dollars.

Starting point is 00:40:40 He's done every debate. He's done everything for the last week for him not to want to win the presidency. This just proves that people who are going to vote for Trump are going to vote for Trump and people who are going to vote for Biden are going to vote for Biden. And that's that. I mean, I don't think why can't you look at this as a psychological situation? What's wrong with someone not wanting to do something? That's all I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:41:00 It is hard. He would prefer not to do the president for you. I'm going to say this much. If he happened to have heard Leslie Stahl, because again, two things happen the same day. I don't think coincidence exists in this world, ever, anywhere. If on the same day she's saying there is no corroboration over and over and over again. Maybe he's throwing up his hands and saying, yes, there is corroboration.

Starting point is 00:41:24 I think he could have done it that quickly. I think this has to been planned before he released. This was everything's timing right now. They've been going to say that. You spent what's coming up. You get onto this. If you're asking, why did it come out today? It's 100% part of Trump's strategy. It's 100% strategic. If you think why Sasha Collins's like the story has really become big today and the video's being released on people watching it, it's because Giuliani was going after Hunter's stuff.

Starting point is 00:41:52 And so now they have to undermine Giuliani. They're hanging on to it to embarrass Sam and it was easy to do. If anybody, guys, for the last two months, we've all been saying the same thing. October is going to be the dirtiest, ugliest, scariest month of the year. Nobody's surprised. Can you imagine Halloween? When I saw the Giuliani thing, I'm sitting there saying, he went on Howard Stern. I don't know if you saw when it was on Howard Stern.

Starting point is 00:42:14 They asked him about this on Howard Stern. They said, so what do you think about this? And he was trying to give me, but I told him, I knew what it would try to do, because I've seen that guy before. That stuff may have worked before, but it doesn't work today. And I knew what they were doing. Then the girl, who's the girl on Howard Stern that's been with him for a while? What's her name?

Starting point is 00:42:30 Robert, so she says, well, is there anything you want to tell us that may come out later on? You know what he said? You know, I don't remember anything. First of all, of course you remember, this is Rudy's better life. So you know when this comes out, it's going to look very, very awkward when this thing comes out. But for me, when I see something like this and you show me proof of communication, this

Starting point is 00:42:56 is bad news. When the emails of Hillary were taken out, that was bad news. Okay, that's terrible news because, you know, if they were able to see the emails, it's proof. You're going to sit there and say, like, wiki leaks, remember how much of a world I got played in the election last time? Julian Assange? Julian Assange when new things will come up because it's proof, it's email. It's written. If he can prove it, this is going to be ugly. In theory, the FBI sitting on this laptop, why are they sitting on the laptop? Why are they the laptop why are they going up in

Starting point is 00:43:26 the senate tomorrow with his corroborating evidence then the senate can say to the fb i why are you sitting on this laptop to i mean again we we we as the american people don't know why the fb i's dragging their feet on this we should know let me ask the me regardless of who it's about if it's a matter of national security.

Starting point is 00:43:45 If you remind Pat, Adam Legro, here's the way out of behind these. Anybody that goes publicly pro-Trump or anti-biden gets ruined. Is that simple? So it's not just some job blow jumping on the TV, risky his entire reputation and his whole family. You go pro-Trump and anti-biden publicly, you're ruined because the media will ruin you. And that man's face will be played back or said or he lied or he's lying. I don't know how many times. Like there's an element to going pro Trump and anti-biden right now in this day and age today at

Starting point is 00:44:21 whatever 8 o'clock or 750 Texas type. Bro, it's down to your social suicide. So he's got something in common with his got something in common with Trump. He and Trump both gave to a bunch of Democrats. Well, you're right. So he said that. 100%.

Starting point is 00:44:38 So the difference between him is Trump gave to Democrat and Republican. Trump gave to both sides. He only gave to them. They have to Democrat. Only big difference. Yeah, so I mean, so is there really just some job blow on their say to have to do phones and look at this?

Starting point is 00:44:53 I mean, would you want to, here's your question to ask, have you already made up your mind who you're voting for? Yes. Have you already made up your mind? Have you already made up your mind? I have not. Have you already made up your mind?

Starting point is 00:45:02 No. No. I don't know. Have you already made up your mind? No. Adam. Have you already made up your mind? I'm still 90% Biden, but if I have to, I'm sorry. So let me ask you this. So, so if you're watching this, do you think Adam is already made up his mind who was voting

Starting point is 00:45:16 for him? Tomorrow we can get V.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E.E. I'm not cast my ballot yet. So then you have made up your mind. That's a different story. I'm not cast my ballot yet. But she hasn't made up her mind. So let's talk to Danielle, so all the undecided voters. What are you looking forward to make your decision who you're going to vote for? I want to find out who's going to talk like an adult and tell me about the policies that they're going to pursue over and over again.

Starting point is 00:45:41 The one point that Leslie Stahl scored in that interview was she kept saying, you're saying there's an alternative to Obamacare if it gets turned over, what is it? Just give it to me in a few sentences. And he said, I can take you after and show you. Sorry. He should be able to say at this point in one paragraph in a sound bite as any politician should be, this is exactly what I'm going to do for healthcare in America. And this is how I'm going to do it.

Starting point is 00:46:05 And I've had this many people vetting the plan. And he should be able to put it in three or four sentences or in two minutes. Sure. And he should be able to do that at the exact same time. Joe Biden says how he's going to put an end to Antifa and uprisings throughout this country and some of this stuff. And I want to do that. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:46:22 I want to hear substantive answers from both of them. I want to see who can actually play the adult in the room. Here's a different question for you. Here's a different question for you. Here's a different question for you. The different question is not okay. The next question for you is this. So for you, what are your top things you look for when you vote?

Starting point is 00:46:41 So goal number one I look for this is an economy first. So if you can kind of go through this China where are you at with your list? There's a brand new poll out today. Number one is the economy. Number two is the coronavirus. Period end. What is it for you? Same things. Okay, got it. Same things. I tend to be with the average American. We've had two days with a thousand deaths. I mean, let me tell you what they do to on Twitter if you talk about cases rising. People like, it's a hoax. I'm like, fine, fine. We'll just, we'll leave it to fatalities.

Starting point is 00:47:12 We'll wait until hospitalizations are going up, which they are in Wisconsin, in Michigan. A lot of swing states right now as it gets colder. But people want to know what's the future for the economy and what's the future for the coronavirus. Nobody wants to shut down again, but they want to know what the leader's plan is. If we're not shutting down, how are you going to make sure my small business stays open? Can we see the coronavirus question? That's an economy question. Did you ever put the coronavirus?

Starting point is 00:47:39 Did you ever put the coronavirus on the head? Did you ever put the coronavirus on the head? Did you ever put the coronavirus on the head? I never put the coronavirus on the head. I never put the coronavirus on the head. That's the pandemic. I never put the coronavirus on the head. I never put the coronavirus on the head. I never They're attached to the hit. 25th on my list of things that I will use the right- But you were supposed to use the right- This is a pandemic coronavirus is 25 on your own. I'm capable of taking care of myself and my family. I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic-

Starting point is 00:47:53 I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic-

Starting point is 00:48:01 I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking to the middle of a pandemic- I'm speaking on behalf of the 25% of American businesses, small businesses that are closing because the people who frequent their businesses are afraid to come out of their homes because there's no cohesive policy. It's not okay, but there's two sides to that. They're freaked out by the message that they're getting constantly.

Starting point is 00:48:18 No, they know we're talking about educated Americans. They probably can do their own. Hey, look, I live in California, it's all a scam, as far as what Gavin Newsom is doing, as far as shutting down Disneyland, shutting down Universal Studios, destroying Anaheim, destroying Orange County. Again, that is to the absolute extreme, and he's the most guilty for putting small businesses out of business permanently. I want for a politician to tell me how they're going to keep it safe for me to keep my business,

Starting point is 00:48:44 not how they're going to shut me down and keep you shut down. What's happening to California is ridiculous. I mean, they should be putting up a wall at the border because these people are leaving California in the droves. Daniel, question. I want you to give two grades. Trump's handling of the economy. Trump's handling of the coronavirus.

Starting point is 00:49:00 What would you grade Trump? I would say his handling. And Boba, she's an economist here. So- I would say that his handling of the economy has been a solid B. Solid B for Trump. Solid B. I would say that his handling of the coronavirus has been a solid C.

Starting point is 00:49:13 See, here- He keeps falling back on Fauci and saying, but he said not to wear a mask and then he changes his mind. You want a leader who's like, wait a minute, I've got this epiphany, the light bulb goes off. I can think for myself. I can do my own homework and I can come out with my, I don't have to rely on somebody to tell me what my policy should be.

Starting point is 00:49:36 I am the leader of the free world. I can figure it out on my own. Well, you can't say that. Okay, so let's just say you say, you can say that, but it's tough to say that. And then on the other side, when he does it in a military side, you said, what do you know about military? You can't make a decision for these guys. I've been to where you have been to where.

Starting point is 00:49:53 So it's either you can take that position, where you also have to say, you ought to listen to the military, you ought to listen to Fauci, or you got to take the position, say, no, you're the commander of chief, you don't listen to the generals. You do the research, you make the decision, you don't listen to your leader that to Fauci, or you got to think the position, you said, no, you're the commander of chief, you don't listen to the generals, you do the research, you make the decision, you don't listen to your leader, that's Fauciin. If somebody says, and this is the fatal flaw of any economist, if the facts change and you keep your bias, you're gonna go down with the ship.

Starting point is 00:50:19 So if the facts change and you don't change your mind, then that just means you're too rigid in your thinking. Sure, sure, but also if you go to it, if you get it. And maybe he discounts what Fouchy thought, that's fine. Maybe he moves on and gets himself a new expert. Who knows? If he's like, well, this guy's waffling, he's going back and forth. Last week, it was no mass this week, because it's this mass.

Starting point is 00:50:38 Maybe I'll go find somebody who's objective, who I can look to new and different scientific guidance from. But if you look at the beginning of this thing, like if you look back from when he started to be president, I put myself, when I'm going to speak, I put myself in a position like, for example, with Trump, right? He's been attacked for how many years, right? So when they say, hey, this is a currency, he's going to come in, he's possibly ruined the economy. Was it a good idea for him to say it was a hoax? No. But when you're always attacked, you have to, in his name, the Somaric State, and there's a president, you have to assume that you're just getting attacked again.

Starting point is 00:51:13 But let's move away from that, which I don't agree that he did that. But if we look in February and March, in February, because I'm from California, Pelosi was a shit city, which is San Francisco, telling everybody, come out. It's okay, we're good. Everything's under control, come visit us. And that needs to be played over and over and over again. But that's the thing, it's not, and there's so many quamos said, we want to think the president, he's doing a good job.

Starting point is 00:51:36 He said that, the president of Arizona, I mean, governor of Arizona, governor, every governor said he's doing a great job, he did, he's doing his best as he can. Thank you, why are they playing these videos? They accuse them of, it's a whole, it's every governor said he's doing a great job, he's doing this best as he can. Thank you. Why don't he play these videos? They accuse him of, it's a whole, it's your fault everybody's dying. But yet every single Democrat, including Pelosi, the House Speaker, she was in San Francisco in the middle of the city, February 28th, saying, we're good. Come to the town.

Starting point is 00:51:59 Come to the town. Come to the town. Come to the town. Come to the town of Cronovirus is a political issue. It's a fact. It should have never been. It is, that is the reality. So what do you, I was,

Starting point is 00:52:07 What do you mean, what do you mean, what do you mean, where is a political issue? What do you mean, it should have never been a political issue. No. But why do you become a political issue? Because the Democrats can use it to try to get Trump

Starting point is 00:52:17 to do what you said. Why did it become a political issue? I don't think it, no. I think it became a political issue because the politicization of the mask itself is at Trump's feet. No, no, that's not the question. Why did it become a political issue? Because Trump made it one.

Starting point is 00:52:32 So it's Trump made it a political issue. In my view. Tell me why. Look, Nancy Pelosi should have never been in Chinatown saying, come on out. At that point, Trump himself should have come out and said, that's reckless. And he should have called her out and stuck with it. But instead, he's waffled back and forth. You heard the 60 minutes interview today.

Starting point is 00:52:51 I don't know about mass. They might be good. They might possibly be bad. They might, but if you have to have one answer, if you're a leader, if I'm leaning on an expert, Fauci, who changes his mind every other day, who the hell do I listen to? Does he do? Do you think a cop manager next to you if you find out that he's wrong or do you replace Who changes as a mind every other day? Who the hell do I listen to? So one day you tell me- So one day you come- The next to you if you find out that he's wrong or do you replace it?

Starting point is 00:53:09 If you tell me, if you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it?

Starting point is 00:53:17 If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? If you're wrong, or do you replace it? but you don't know if they took a test, Daniel, there is so much hypocrisy. I understand.

Starting point is 00:53:25 On what they did, the media, to spin this thing into political thing, to do whatever they can to hurt the economy because they knew one thing. You know how this thing works. If the economy is good, if the president's Obama, if the president's Bush, if the president's Clinton, we're going to do two terms. If the economy's bad, they're not in the same decoding. What's your term done? I will.

Starting point is 00:53:43 If we don't shut down the economy, I want to ask this question. If we don't shut down the economy, and the approach was taken in a different way, doubt today's at 35, what is the chances of Biden even having a chance to win? 80-20. It's not going to win. The second mark is 10 times. Yeah, that's what I'm saying to you. Yeah. Wait, wait. Just because they turn to you. Yeah, so wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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Starting point is 00:54:15 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,ger's a hardcore Democrat, and he himself stepped out and said, I'm not doing anything with Newsom, they pull it aside. You can't say Trump politicized it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, But he doesn't make the connection to it being the China virus and saying many places in America, the economy suffered because China didn't release the data. That's not political size. No, that's not political size.

Starting point is 00:54:51 But I'm saying he should follow through. That's just saying maybe he didn't do the right thing, or maybe he didn't use the right time for strategy. Many of our allies, Australia, many of our allies shut down because the politicians were, they were in the dark because China did not release the data. And when's the last time? Since you've been born, you've seen the economy shut down and nobody going to work. There were aerial images of the crematoriums over Wuhan.

Starting point is 00:55:15 Everybody was scared, chill-ass. No, I'm done with you. I'm not saying anything, but I'm not saying anything. But I guess we didn't know how that it was because China kept all the data. So what are you supposed to do? We're on the same page here. So first of all, number one, enemy to me is China. I do? We're on the same page here. So first of all, number one enemy to me is China. I fully, we're on the same page when it comes on to China.

Starting point is 00:55:28 And to me being somebody that's from Iran, if Iran and China wants Biden, I'm concerned. I'm concerned about that. I'm concerned about why the Iran and Chinese leadership, the government is excited about Biden become a president, not Trump. Why? Because you're not going to get sanctions. Well, who's going to be harder on China? Of course Trump's going to be hard on China.

Starting point is 00:55:45 So for me, if we're going to that perspective, I'm pure economy guys. By the way, we're getting started. So let me give you the details of today's debate. So that was great. Phenomenal everybody, this was very good. Location, Belmont University, the National Tennessee, I've been a National Tennessee shout out to all the folks who've been to Silverado and Nashville. It's a great nightclub.

Starting point is 00:56:02 They taught me how to dance country. I'm going to have to have a shout out to them.'t dance country. I'm a shot out there. I'm a great people. I'm a good person. I'm a good person. I'm a good person. Moderator, Kristen Welker, which we all know is not a Trump fan. It's going to be interesting. How that goes. She's from MSNBC. Topic of debates, fighting COVID-19, American families, race in America, climate change, national security, and leadership, format the commission on presidential debates said this week that it was changing on debate rules so that each candidate will be silenced,

Starting point is 00:56:32 while the other gives a two minute opening statement at the start of each 15 minutes segment during the rest of the discussion in each block. Having said that, I think we're getting close to it. Now one quick question. Yes. The words, Hunter Biden, get mentioned in the first 30 minutes? By Trump, yes. By Trump?

Starting point is 00:56:50 By anyone other than Trump. I don't think so. No, she's saying something came to light today. No, there was a press conference an hour ago. Mr. Biden, did you see that? Have you ever come in? She will fall back on the factor. Until the evidence is made public, she can't.

Starting point is 00:57:04 She's got a year piece made public. She can't. She's got a year-piece right now. Why don't you put it up already? I was telling her what to say. Start showing it that we're meaning in the screen okay, good. So they can see that. Do you have any opinions, Pat, on how this is going to turn out tonight? I think it's going to be uglier than the first one.

Starting point is 00:57:18 I don't think it's going to be. Is that possible? Yeah, I think it's going to be uglier than the first one, because imagine today, what their day looks like with all these different stories. And in your brain, you're trying to find out what angle. Well, at least no American there. And everyone's giving you advice. Everyone's telling you what angle you should take.

Starting point is 00:57:36 Everyone's trying to smash you Biden, like they've told him a million different things on what to try to do. And you're trying to get all your angles in place. So all this week that Biden's been preparing, it's irrelevant because five different events happened today. So whatever you've been preparing for,

Starting point is 00:57:49 what did out the window? What does Trump need to do in order to win this debate? And what does Biden need to do? Trump's gotta be Trump. Trump's gotta be Trump. Stay with the facts. Yeah, and Biden's gotta try to get away from the stories as much as possible.

Starting point is 00:57:59 I'm interested to see the human element. But look at her, she's ready to crush Trump. She just blocked the bribery. I'm sorry. By the way, the human element with Biden is what I'm going to watch for this is his family that's involved. It's not just policy in the country. This is one of his sons is dead.

Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah. The other ones alive and is the villain of the US right now. So she's a Latina, right? Cheers. Yes. I just want to everybody know watching this. We have a Latino community. We do not support that woman. She hasn't even started yet.

Starting point is 00:58:29 I was just biased right there. He knows that, but he's never known what she's that's for. What did she stand for? You were talking about her. What did she stand for? She's anti-truck. Okay. So, you know what?

Starting point is 00:58:39 Daniel was making some interesting points earlier. She says, I want to know what he's going to do. Here's the reality. I go off of history because history always repeats itself. When it was the truth, she'll say. She says, I want to know what he's going to do. Here's the reality, I go off of history, because history always repeats itself. When it was the truth, she'll say, in order for us to look at the future, we have to go deep in the past. 47 years was as Biden done. He's done the crime bill in 1993 and mass incarcerated blacks, right? Proper shot.

Starting point is 00:59:00 You know, here's the last thing. Biden is putting five pays memorizing his lines. So please don't speak in Nashville, Tennessee. Okay, guys, let's the last thing. Biden is putting five pays memorizing his lines from things on the audience. Okay, guys, let's have a good debate. And I welcome you to the final 2020 presidential debate. At least we've got popcorn. President Donald Trump and President Aaron are as popcorn. Yeah, very good.

Starting point is 00:59:18 Tonight's debate is sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates. It is conducted under health and safety. Can we turn it up a little bit? Designed by the Commission Health Security Advisor. on presidential debates. It is conducted under health and safety protocols designed by the Commission's Health Security Adviser. The audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent. No cheers, booze, or other interruptions, except right now, as we welcome to the stage former Vice President Joe Biden and President Donald J. Trump. More Alan Thompson's rate. I do. I do. Nice air deck right there.

Starting point is 01:00:05 Good evening to both of you. This debate will cover six major topics at the beginning of each section. Each candidate will have two minutes uninterrupted to answer my first question. The debate commission will then turn on their microphone only when it is there. It's green, baby.

Starting point is 01:00:21 Put us on the bottle. The commission will turn it off exactly when the two minutes expire. After that, both microphones will remain on. But on behalf of the voters, I'm We'll turn it off exactly when the two bishops fire. After that, both microphones will remain on. But on behalf of the voters, I'm going to ask you to please speak. One at a time, the goal is for you to hear each other and for the American people to hear every word of what you both have to say.

Starting point is 01:00:39 And so with that, if you're ready, let's start. And we will begin with the fight against the coronavirus President Trump. The first question is for you. The country is heading into a dangerous new phase, more than 40,000 Americans are in the hospital tonight with COVID, including record numbers here in Tennessee. And since the two of you last shared a stage, 16,000 Americans have died from COVID, so please be specific. How would you lead the country during this next stage of the coronavirus crisis? Two minutes, uninterrupted.

Starting point is 01:01:09 So, as you know, 2.2 million people modeled out, were expected to die. We closed up the greatest economy in the world in order to fight this horrible disease that came from China. It's a worldwide pandemic. It's all over the world. You see the spikes in Europe,

Starting point is 01:01:27 but many other places right now. If you notice, the mortality rate is down 85%. The excess mortality rate is way down and much lower than almost any other country. And we're fighting it, and we're fighting it hard. There is a spike. There was a spike in Texas. And it's halting on. There was a was a spike in Texas. It's now gone.

Starting point is 01:01:46 There was a very big spike in Texas. It's now gone. There was a very big spike in Arizona. It's now gone. And there are some spikes and surges and other places they will soon be gone. We have a vaccine that's coming. It's ready.

Starting point is 01:01:59 It's going to be announced within weeks. It's going to be delivered. We have operation warp speed, which is, the military is going to distribute announced within weeks. He had a chance to deliver. We have Operation Warp Speed, which is the military is going to distribute the vaccine. I can tell you from personal experience that I was in the hospital, I had it. And I got better, and I will tell you that I had something that they gave me a therapeutic, I guess they would call.

Starting point is 01:02:22 Some people could say it was a cure. But I was in for a short period of time, and got better very fast or I wouldn't be here tonight. And now they say I'm immune, whether it's four months or a lifetime, nobody's been able to say that. But I'm immune. More and more people are getting better. We have a problem that's a worldwide problem. This is a worldwide problem. But I've been congratulated by the heads of many countries on what we've been able to do with the, if you take a look at what we've done in terms of goggles and masks and gowns and everything else

Starting point is 01:02:57 and in particular ventilators, we're now making ventilators all over the world, thousands and thousands a month, distributing them all over the world. It will go away. And as I say, we're rounding the turn, thousands and thousands a month, distributing them all over the world. It will go away, and as I say, we're rounding the turn, we're rounding the corner, it's going away. Okay, former Vice President Biden to you, how would you lead the country out of this crisis?

Starting point is 01:03:15 You have two minutes uninterrupted. 220,000 Americans dead. You hear nothing else, I say tonight. Hear this. I was in America's debt. You hear nothing else, I say tonight, who this? Anyone who's responsible for not taking control, in fact, not saying I take no responsibility initially. Anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as president of the United States.

Starting point is 01:03:39 Is this teeth like? We're in a situation where there are a thousand deaths a day, a thousand deaths a day Thousand deaths a day and there are over 70 thousand new cases per day Compared to what's going on in Europe as the New England medical journal said they're starting from a very low rate We're starting from very high rate the expectation is we'll have another 200,000 Americans dead between now and the end of the year. We just wore these masks, President's own advisors told them. We could save 100,000 lives. And we're in a circumstance where the President

Starting point is 01:04:18 thus far and still has no plan, no comprehensive plan. What I would do is make sure we have everyone encouraged to wear a mask all the time. I would make sure we move in the direction of rapid testing, investing in rapid testing. I would make sure that we set up national standards as to how to open up schools and open up businesses so they can be safe and give them the wearer of all the financial resources to be able to do that. We're in a situation now where the New England Medical Journal, one of the most serious journals in the whole world, said for the first time ever

Starting point is 01:04:54 that the way this president has responded to this crisis has been absolutely tragic. And so folks, I will take care of this, I will end this, I will make sure we have a plan. It's almost comical. President Trump, I'd like to follow up with you in your comments. You talked about taking a therapeutic,

Starting point is 01:05:11 I assume you're referencing Regeneron. You also said a vaccine will be coming within weeks. Yes. Is that a guarantee? No, it's not a guarantee, but it will be by the end of the year. But I think it has a good chance there are two companies, I think within a matter of weeks. and it will be distributed very quickly. You tell us which companies?

Starting point is 01:05:28 Johnson and Johnson is doing very well, moderners doing very well, Pfizer is doing very well, and we have numerous others. Then we also have others that were working on very closely with other countries in particular Europe. Let me follow up with you, because this is new information. I do not know which answer was nothing. I do not know. I do not know. I new information that has to do with nothing. He didn't give any advice or support masks in. I'll say that.

Starting point is 01:05:47 I'll say that. The earliest for enough Americans to get vaccinated. And even then they say the country wearing masks and distancing for 2022. Is your timeline or listed? He'll be sitting courage. That was not exactly strong. I will encourage everyone to wear masks.

Starting point is 01:06:02 Because we have our generals lined up one particular, that's the head of logistics. And this is a very easy distribution for him. He's ready to go. As soon as we have the vaccine, and we expect to have 100 million vials, as soon as we have the vaccine, he's ready to go. Vice President Biden, your reaction in just 40 percent of Americans say they would definitely agree to take a coronavirus vaccine if it was approved by the government.

Starting point is 01:06:26 What steps would you take to give Americans confidence in a vaccine if it were approved? Make sure it's totally transparent. Have the scientists the world see it? No, look at it. Go through all the processes. And by the way, this is the same fellow told you. This is going to end by Easter.

Starting point is 01:06:43 Oh, it's the same fellow who told you that. It's not how you're going to end this by the summer. We're about to go into a dark winter, a dark winter. And he has no clear plan and there's no prospect that there's going to be a vaccine available for the majority of the American people before the middle of next year. President Trump, your reaction to this issue, you have no plan. I have no plan. I have no plan.

Starting point is 01:07:03 I have no plan. I have no plan. I have no plan. I have no plan. I have no plan. I have no plan. I have a dark winter and at all, we're opening up our country. We've learned and studied and understand the disease, which we didn't at the beginning. When I closed and banned China from coming in heavily infected and then ultimately Europe, but China was in January. Months later, he was saying I was xenophobic. I did it too soon.

Starting point is 01:07:20 And now he's saying, oh, I should have moved quicker, but he didn't move quicker. He was months behind me, many months behind me. And frankly, he ran the H1N1 swine flu, and it was a total disaster, far less lethal, but it was a total disaster. Had that had this kind of numbers, 700,000 people would be dead right now, but it was a far less lethal disease. Right. Look, his own person ran that for him.

Starting point is 01:07:54 As you know, was his chief of staff said it was catastrophic. It was horrible. We didn't know what we were doing. Now he comes up and he tells us how to do this. Also, everything that he said about the way, every single move that he said we should make, that's what we've done. We've done all of it. But he was way behind us. Vice President Biden, your response. Our response is, he is xenophobic, but not because he shut down access from China.

Starting point is 01:08:21 And he didn't late after 40 countries had already done that. In addition to that, what he did, he made sure that we had 44 people that were in there in China trying to get the Wuhan to determine what exactly the source was. What did the president say in January? He said no, he said this is he's being transparent. The president of China is being transparent. We owe him a debt of gratitude. We have to thank him. And then what happened was, we started talking about using the defense act to make sure we go out and get whatever is

Starting point is 01:08:49 needed out there to protect people. And again, I go back to this. He had nothing. He did virtually nothing. And then he gets out of the hospital. And he talks about, this is all, don't worry. It's going to all of them be over soon. Come on.

Starting point is 01:09:04 There's not another serious scientist in the world. I. It's gonna all be over soon. Come on. There's not another serious scientist in the world who thinks it's gonna be over soon. President Trump your reaction? Say over soon. I say we're learning to live with it. We have no choice. We can't lock ourselves up in a basement like Joe does. He has the ability to lock himself up. I've been told he's been doing so much. I made a lot of money someplace, but he has this thing about living in a basement. People can't do that.

Starting point is 01:09:26 By the way, I as the president couldn't do that. I'd love to put myself in the basement or in a beautiful room in the White House and go away for a year and a half until it disappears. I can't do that. And Kirsten, every meeting I had, every meeting I had, and I'd meet a lot of families, including gold star families and military families, every meeting I had, and I had to meet them. Does the guy has an old dude trying to help me? He would be horrible to have canceled everything.

Starting point is 01:09:49 I said, you know, this is dangerous. And you catch it. And you know, I caught it. I learned a lot. I learned a lot. Great doctors, great hospitals. And now I recovered. 99.9 of young people recover 99% of people recover.

Starting point is 01:10:07 We have to recover. We can't close up our nation. We have to open our school and we can't close up our nation. Or you're not going to have a nation. And of course, the CDC has said young people can get sick over the next few months. Just so you know, it's actually, the next person is responding to adults so far.

Starting point is 01:10:23 And she's letting them talk. Actually, I like the way she's doing it 36 She's a professional number one. I know Ricky's he says he's already I don't know like we're learning to live with her professional people are learning to die with it You folks home will have an empty chair at the kitchen table this morning That man or wife going to bed tonight or each and over to try something like that Out of habit where their wife or husband was is gone

Starting point is 01:10:44 Learning to live with it come on to try something like that, out of habit where their wife or husband was, is gone. Learning to live with it. Come on, we're dying with it because he has never said, so you said it's dangerous. Once the last time, is it really dangerous still? Are we dangerous? You tell the people it's dangerous now? What should they do about the danger? And you say, I take no responsibility.

Starting point is 01:11:01 Let me talk about your two. Excuse me, I take full responsibility. It's not my fault that it came here. It's China's fault. And you know what? It's not just fault that it came here either. It's China's fault. They kept it from going into the rest of China for the most part, but they didn't keep it from coming out to the world. You're only the first thing is that the president of been out of it. And that's what he needs to be saying. When we knew it was coming, when it hit, what happened? What did the president say? You should don't worry. It's going to go away.

Starting point is 01:11:31 Be gone by Easter. Don't worry, the warm weather. Don't worry. Maybe inject please. He did say this. He said he'd all be in Easter church services. He said that. The whole range of things the president has said, even today,

Starting point is 01:11:41 is the things we are in control. To buy this point, there are 1 thousands of people dying every day right now. We're back up to that level. It's serious for their families. We're just holding people leave all that data. Some of that data has been proven to not be true. And I know for a fact, if you just study excess mortality, it takes it all out of the wash.

Starting point is 01:11:59 And that went on for months. What Nancy Pelosi said the same thing. She was dancing on the streets in Chinatown in San Francisco. That's right. But when I closed, he said, this is a terrible thing. You xenophobic. I think he called me racist even. And because I was closing it to China,

Starting point is 01:12:14 now he says I should have closed it earlier. It just, Joe, it doesn't work. I didn't say either of those things. You certainly did. You certainly did. I talked about a xenophobia in a different context. It wasn't about closing the border to Chinese. Come on, I did. I talked about a xenophobia in a different context. There wasn't about closing the border to Chinese.

Starting point is 01:12:28 Oh, my God. I want to talk about both of your different strategies to hand this. You thought I shouldn't have closed the border? Well, it's obvious. Is that, do you want to respond to that quickly, vice president? OK. Let's try to do it.

Starting point is 01:12:41 I'm trying to turn to the vice president. You suggest that you shut down the scientist recommended it. What just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it.

Starting point is 01:12:51 I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it.

Starting point is 01:12:59 I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want to do it. I just want What's the country? It's his ineptitude to cause the country to have to shut down in large part. Why business has gone under my shoes? Roblin is basically people of lost

Starting point is 01:13:10 or living and why they're concerned. Those other concerns are real. That's why he should have been instead of in a sand trap in a golf course. He should have been negotiating with Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats and Republicans about what to do about the acts that are happening. Now there was no big cheer here, but there were never cheers in some houses in America right

Starting point is 01:13:29 now. Just saying. He plays a lot of golf. I'm not sure how to do down the night, but there aren't. Look, you need standards. The standard is, if you have a reproduction rate in a community that's above a certain level, everyone says, slow up. More social distancing.

Starting point is 01:13:44 Do not open bars and do not open gymnasium. Do not open until you get this under control. Under more control. But when you do open, give the people the capacity to be able to open and have the capacity to do it safely. For example, schools, schools, they need a lot of money to grow them. They need to deal with ventilation systems. They need to deal with smaller classes, more teachers, more pods.

Starting point is 01:14:06 And he's refused to support that money or at least up to now. Let's talk about schools. President Trump. I think we have to respond if I might. Please. And then I have a follow-up. Thank you. And I appreciate that. Look, all he does is talk about. It seems civil. But forget about him. His Democrat governor, Squalmo in New York, you look at what's going on in California.

Starting point is 01:14:24 You look at Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Democrats, Democrats all, they're shut down so tight and they're dying, they're dying. And he supports all these people. All he talks about is shut down. No, we're not going to shut down and we have to open our schools. And it's like, as an example, I have a young son. He also tested positive. By the time I spoke to the doctor, the second time he was fine, it just went away.

Starting point is 01:14:49 Young people, I guess it's their immune system. Let me follow up with you, President Trump. You've demanded schools open in person and insist they can do it safely. But just yesterday, Boston became the latest city to move its public school system entirely online after a coronavirus spike. What is your message to parents who worry that sending their children to school will endanger

Starting point is 01:15:08 not only their kids but also their teachers and families? I want to open the schools, the transmittal rate to the teachers is very small, but I want to open the schools, we have to open our country. We're not going to have a country. You can't do this. We can't keep this country close. This is a massive country with a massive economy. People are losing their jobs, their committing suicide, there's

Starting point is 01:15:31 depression, alcohol, drugs, at a level that nobody's ever seen before. This abuse, tremendous abuse. We have to open our country. You know, I've said it often, the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself. And that's what's happening. And he wants to close down, he'll close down the country. If one person in our massive bureaucracy says, we should close it down. But it's President Biden, you're a problem. Simply not true. We want to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

Starting point is 01:16:00 We ought to be able to safely open, but would they need resources to open? You need to be able to, for example, if you're going to open a business, have social distancing within the business. You need to have, if you have a restaurant, you need to have plexiglass dividers so people cannot infect one another. You need to be in a position where you can take testing rapidly and know whether a person is infected. You need to be able to trace. You need to be able to trace. You need to be able to provide all the resources that are needed to do this. And that is not inconsistent with saying that

Starting point is 01:16:33 what we're gonna make sure that we open safely. And by the way, we need to stop here. I'm sorry. Not that many. But three months ago, we were doing this. There's social distance. We're seeing in restaurants.

Starting point is 01:16:42 All that stuff is already happening. Plexiglass, we're all going to do that. That was to be honest. We even have department of health and services come to our office. It's a ghost town. Say you want to help? Five. The guys not sleepy.

Starting point is 01:16:54 He's not dementia. He's out there talking, point to point with Trump. To even debate right now. Nobody's winning right now. It's even right now. Disappointing right now. You're going to get a serious, very cubicle wrap. I mean, my husband's got a salesman. He's 45-year-old marathon runner. Just kicked out the coronavirus. I mean, marathon runner.

Starting point is 01:17:05 Buf guy. Look at her, York, and what's happened to my... Two weeks in the hospital. Daniel died. My wife's entire family got coronavirus. Her mom, her stepdad, her sister, her two nieces. They were bored after one day because they wanted to get out of the house. But that's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:17:19 It's random. I mean, this 45-year-old marathon runner lands in the hospital for two weeks. He must have had some sort of other... No, I mean, I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I because they wanted to get out of the house. I mean this 45 year old marathon runner lands in the hospital for two weeks. You must have had some sort of other. No, he was. There was no.

Starting point is 01:17:31 It's random. That's the problem with this thing. It's random. Ricky, you have the coronavirus. Hello. I think it was 10 days. 10 days. Three months ago.

Starting point is 01:17:41 Three months ago. 10 days. It's a life. No, I just isolated it for you. Yeah. 15, 14 days. And months ago. Three months ago. Ten days. It's a life of a... No, I just isolated it for... Yeah. 50, 40 days. And how did it feel?

Starting point is 01:17:49 I just felt fatigue. I started, I was like, the flu, like, we're... Yeah, like the flu. You want to get it again? Ah, I mean, I'm... I'm... It's not going to deal with me. And nothing's happened.

Starting point is 01:18:00 Where's in New York? His lost more than 40,000 people. So 11,000 people in New York. President Trump, what now? And he says, Spike, take a look at what's happening in Pennsylvania, where they've had it closed. Take a look at what's happening with your friend in Michigan, where her husband's the only one allowed

Starting point is 01:18:18 to do anything. It's been like, prison. Now it was just ruled unconstitutional. Take a look at North Carolina. They're having spikes, and they've been closed, and they're getting killed financially. We can't let that happen, Joe. You can't let that happen. We have to open up, and we understand the disease.

Starting point is 01:18:36 We have to protect our seniors. We have to protect our elderly. We have to protect especially our seniors with heart problems and diabetes problems, and we will protect. We have the best testing in the world by far. That's why we have so many cases. Let me follow up with you before we move on to our next section, President Trump. This is Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's best known infectious disease expert, quote she said the Fauci raster. You described him and other medical experts as quote idiots. If you're not listening to them, who are you listening to? I'm listening to all of them, including Anthony. I get along very well with

Starting point is 01:19:07 Anthony, but he did say, don't wear masks. He did say, as you know, this is not going to be a problem. I think he's a Democrat, but that's okay. He said, this is not going to be a problem. We're not going to have a problem at all. When Joe says that, I said, Anthony Fauci said, and others, and many others, and I'm not knocking him. Nobody knew. Look, nobody knew what this thing was. Nobody knew where it was coming from.

Starting point is 01:19:34 What it was, we've learned a lot. But Anthony said, don't wear masks. Now he wants to wear masks. Anthony also said, if you look back, exact words. He uses exact words. This is no problem. This is going to go away soon. So he's allowed to make mistakes.

Starting point is 01:19:47 He happens to be a good person. Vice President Biden, you're response quickly, and then we're going to move on to the next section. Our response is that think about what the president knew in January and didn't tell the American people. He was told this was a serious virus, it's spread in the air, and it was much worse than, much worse than the flu. He went on record.

Starting point is 01:20:06 He just got mad for the first time. Recording that in fact he knew how dangerous it was but he didn't want to tell us. For someone who chose you of being responsible for a disease. He wasn't sure. Unfortunately he's on tape with Bob Woodwood saying it. But I guess what? In the meantime we find out the New York Times. That's why Trump just got mad for the first time. His folks went to Wall Street and said this is a really dangerous thing and a member But I guess what? In the meantime, we find out the New York Times. That's why Trump just got mad for the first time.

Starting point is 01:20:25 His folks went to Wall Street and said, this is a really dangerous thing, and a memo out of that meeting, not from his administration, but from some of the brokers said, sell short, because we've got to get movement. It's a dangerous problem. I'm going to give you 30 seconds to respond, and then we'll finish. I don't know. Somebody went to Wall Street. You're the one that takes all the money from Wall Street, so I'll take it. You have raised a lot of money, tremendous amounts of money, and every time you raise

Starting point is 01:20:49 money deals a make-up. I could raise so much more money as President and as somebody that does most of those people, I could go all the heads of Wall Street, the heads of every Canadian-american. They're all per-way. At least he's not naming names, so Exxon Mobile doesn't have to come out with another advisory. Then you bring up Wall Street. You shouldn't be bringing up Wall Street.

Starting point is 01:21:07 Because you're the one that takes the money from Wall Street, not me. My average. I could blow away your records that like you wouldn't believe. We don't need money. We have plenty of money. In fact, we beat Hillary Clinton with a tiny fraction of the money that she was saying.

Starting point is 01:21:20 All right, gentlemen, we're just going to talk about our contribution $43. All right, we're going to move on to our next section, which is national security. And I do want to start with the security of our elections and some breaking news from overnight. Just last night, top intelligence officials confirmed again that both Russia and Iran are working to influence this election. Both countries have obtained U.S. voter registration information.

Starting point is 01:21:43 These officials say, and Iran sent intimidating messages to Florida voters. This question goes to you, Mr. Vice President, what would you do to put an end to this threat you have two minutes uninterrupted? I made it clear, and I ask everyone else to take the pledge. I made it clear that any country, no matter who it is, that interferes in American elections will pay a price. They will pay a price. They will pay a price.

Starting point is 01:22:07 It's been overwhelming the clear, this election, I won't even get into the last one. This election, Russia has been involved, China has been involved with some degree, and now we learn that Iran is involved. They will pay a price if I'm elected. They're interfering with America's own. What's the price? That price what's going on right now with american sovereign the best of my knowledge i don't think the president said anything to put

Starting point is 01:22:31 about it's what's gonna get the point of a lot i don't think he said a word i don't know why he had said a word about it and i don't know what he has recently said if anything to the iranians might see now he's deflecting is not saying what he would do not hear what he said to the Iranians about a week and a half ago we are a situation the hell that they would face if there is company she's a key he's accusing him of not standing up to the foreign country he's accusing him instead of saying what he would do what is happening with his buddy well one question oh I will his buddy Rudy Giuliani he's being used as a Russian pawn. He's being

Starting point is 01:23:06 fetish. So then I'll open that door. That is Russian. That was not a mouthful. That was not a mouthful. And then what happened? Oh, something happened. He's not having to find out that he should not have done it first. Russia is wanting to make sure that the file in his head just went... Oh, like the next program. Because they know them and they know me. I don't understand why this president is unwilling to take on Putin when he's actually paying bounties to kill American soldiers in Afghanistan when he's engaged in activities

Starting point is 01:23:35 that are trying to destabilize all of NATO. I don't know why he doesn't do it, but that's the first time I've asked him a question. He's gone for more than 100 years. He's gone from orange to red. He's gone from orange to red. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to red. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to red.

Starting point is 01:23:50 He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange.

Starting point is 01:23:58 He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's gone from orange to orange. He's? Two minutes, honorable. Well, let me respond to the first part as Joe answered. Joe got $3.5 million from Russia, and it came through Putin,

Starting point is 01:24:11 because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow. It was the mayor of Moscow's wife. And you got $3 million from Russia. And see what color it's. You've got $3.5 million. I don't turn $3.5 million. And you know, someday you even have to explain, why did you get $3.5 million?

Starting point is 01:24:24 I never got any money from Russia Russia I don't get money from Russia now about your thing last night I know about it. I talked about it. Through John who is John Reckler who is fantastic. And he said the one thing that's common to both of them they both want you to lose because there has been nobody tougher to Russia between the sanctions. Nobody tougher than me on Russia. Between the sanctions, between all of what I've done with NATO, you know, I've got the NATO countries to put up an extra 130 billion, going to $420 billion a year.

Starting point is 01:24:59 That's the guy against Russia. I sold, while he was selling pillows and sheets, I sold tank busters to Ukraine. There has been nobody tougher on Russia than Donald Trump. And I'll tell you, they were so bad. They took over the submarine port. You remember that very well. During your term, during you and Barack Obama, they took over a big part of what should have been Ukraine. You handed it to him but you were getting a lot of money from Russia.

Starting point is 01:25:29 They were paying you a lot of money and they probably still are. But now is what came out today. It's even worse. All of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family. And Joe, you will vice president when some of this was happening. And it should have never happened. And I think you owe an explanation to the American people. Why is it? Somebody just had a news conference a little while, ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family. But what he said was damning.

Starting point is 01:26:00 And regardless of me, I think you have to clean it up and talk to the American people. Maybe you can do it right now. Vice President Biden, you may respond. Thank you. And then I do want to follow up on the election security. I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life. We learned this president,

Starting point is 01:26:19 he gave it to one person, and that they pay you. And in China, as a secret bank account with China, so he's not a business in China. And in fact, is talking about me taking money, I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever number one. Number two, this is a president. I have released all of my tax returns.

Starting point is 01:26:40 22 years, go look at them. 22 years of my tax return. You have not released a single solitary year of your tax return. 22 years go look at them. 22 years of my tax return. You have not released the single solitary year of your tax return. Why are you unwilling? The foreign countries are paying you a lot. Russia is paying you a lot. China is paying you a lot. And your hotels and all your businesses all around the country, all around the world. And China's building a new road to a new gas, a golf course you have overseas. So what's going on here? Why don't release your tax return or stop talking about corruption?

Starting point is 01:27:11 President Trump, your response. First of all, I called my accounts under-rooted. I'm going to release them as soon as we can. I want to do it. I'm going to do a show how successful, how great this company is. But much more important than that. People were saying $750. I asked them a week ago, I said, what did I pay? They said, sir, you prepaid tens of millions of dollars. I prepaid my tax. Tens over the last number of years. Tens of millions of dollars, I prepaid because at some point they think it's an estimate, they think I may have to

Starting point is 01:27:45 pay tax. So I already prepared it. Nobody told me that. Did you account for me? Nobody told you that. Excuse me. And it wasn't written whenever they write this. They keep talking about $750, which I think is a filing fee.

Starting point is 01:27:56 But let me just tell you, I prepaid millions and millions of dollars in taxes. Number one, number two, I don't make money from China. You do. I don't make money from Ukraine. You do. I don't make money from Russia. You make three and a half million dollars, you know, and you son gave you they even have a statement that we have to give 10% to the big man. You're the big man, I think. I don't know know maybe you're not but you're the big man. I think God you sense that we have to give 10% to the big man What do you mean Joe what's that about? It's terrible. I want to ask you both some questions about all of us. They're going each other Very quickly. That was what you said you spoke to your accountant about potentially releasing your taxes Did he tell you when you can release them? Do you have it? Is the deadline for when you're going to release them? I get mergated

Starting point is 01:28:42 Worse than the tea party got treated Because I have a lot of people in there. Keep down in the IRS. They treat me horribly. We made a deal. It was all settled until I decided to run for president. I get treated very badly by the IRS, very unfairly. But we had a deal all done. As soon as we're completed with the deal, I want to release it.

Starting point is 01:29:02 But I have paid millions and millions of dollars, and it's worse than paying. I paid in advance, it's called pre-paying attacks. I paid in advance. We got to pre-pay part. We got to ask you both about questions regarding the tax. We got that. Daniel, do you believe in one of the tax things that have been raised? Still under audit?

Starting point is 01:29:18 I don't want to talk about this, but probably. I do not know the law, because this has never occurred before, whether or not the Statute of Limitations goes on hold as long as you're in office. Joe, stop playing around. You've been saying for four years, you're going to reach your taxes. Nobody knows, Mr. President, what they do know is you're not paying your taxes or your paying taxes that are so low. When last time he said, what he paid, he said, I only pay that little because I'm smart. I know how to gain the system.

Starting point is 01:29:46 Come on, come on folks. So. President Trump, and then I want to get to two questions to both of you. I was put through a phony witch hunt. Oh, boy. For three years, it started before I even got elected. They spied on my campaign.

Starting point is 01:30:03 No president should ever have to go through what I went through. Let me just say this. Mueller and 18 angry Democrats and FBI agents all over the place spent $48 million. They went through everything I had, including my tax returns, and they found absolutely no collusion and nothing wrong. $48 million. I guarantee you, if I spend $1 million on you, Joe, collusion and nothing wrong. 48 million. I guarantee you if I spend one million on you, Joe, I could find plenty wrong.

Starting point is 01:30:29 Because the kind of things that you've done and the kind of monies that your family has taken, I mean, your brother made money in a wrap. Millions of dollars. Your brother made a fortune, and it's all through you, Joe, and they say you get some of it, and you do live very well.

Starting point is 01:30:45 You have houses all over the place, you live very well. All right, gentlemen, let me just ask some questions about all of this broadly. Get back to some of your habits. There have been questions about the work your son has done in China and for a Ukrainian energy company when you were Vice President in retro's debt. There was anything about these relationships and appropriate or unanswered. Great job. Nothing was unethical.

Starting point is 01:31:04 Here's what to do. With regard to Ukraine, we had this whole question about whether or not because he was on the board, I later learned of a charisma, a company, that somehow I had done something wrong, yet every single solitary person when he was going through his impeachment, testifying under oath who worked for him, said,

Starting point is 01:31:25 I did my job impeccably. I carried out US policy. Not one single solitary thing was out of line. Not a single thing. Number one, number two, the guy who got in trouble in Ukraine was this guy trying to bribe the Ukrainian government to say something negative about me, which they would not do and did not do,

Starting point is 01:31:47 because it never, ever, ever happened. My son has not made money in terms of this thing about what are you talking about? China. I have not had the only guy made money from China is this guy. He's the only one. Nobody else has made money from China. You deflated that. Let me, let me, ask my question to you. I can't just want to tell you what's going on.

Starting point is 01:32:08 Terrible response. The son, who didn't have a job for a long time, was sadly no longer in the military service. I won't get into that. And he didn't have a job. As soon as he became vice president, but Risma, not the best reputation in the world, I hear they've made him 183,000 a month.

Starting point is 01:32:27 Listen to this, 183, and they gave them a $3 million upfront payment. All right. And he had no energy. I'm gonna let the vice president respond to that quickly, and then I need to get to a question to you. No basis for that.

Starting point is 01:32:38 Everybody investigated that. No one said anything he did was wrong in Ukraine. Okay, President Trump, this is for you. Since you took office, you've never divested from your business. Why would he so quick on that? They didn't spend a lot of time on that. I'm not sure if you're talking about fraud.

Starting point is 01:32:50 A report this week, which was referenced, does indicate that your company has a bank account in China. So how can voters know that you don't have any foreign conflicts of interest? I have many bank accounts, and they're all listed, and they're all over the place. I mean, I was a businessman doing business.

Starting point is 01:33:05 The bank invested by the New York Times. We've never released that. But it knows about it. It's listed. The bank account was in 2013. That's what it was. It was open to do. It was closed in 2015, I believe.

Starting point is 01:33:19 And then I decided, because I was going to do, I was thinking about doing it, you do, and channeling millions of other people, I was thinking about it, and I on China like millions of other people. I was thinking about it and I decided I'm not going to do it. I didn't like it. I decided not to do it. I had an account open and I closed it. Excuse me. And then, unlike him, where his president and he does business, I then decided to run for president after that.

Starting point is 01:33:41 That was before. So I closed it before I even ran for president, let alone became president. Big difference. He is the vice president of the United States and his son, his brother and his other brother are getting rich. They're like a vacuum cleaner. They're sucking up money. Okay, President Trump is saying that we do need to be true. I do want to ask you a Vice President Biden, about China. Let's talk about China more broadly. China? There have, of course, President Trump has said that they should pay for not being fully

Starting point is 01:34:12 transparent in regards to the coronavirus. If you were President, would you make China pay? And please be specific, what would that look like? Thank you. What I make China do is play by the international rules. Not like he has caused the deficit in China to go up, not down, with China. That's true.

Starting point is 01:34:31 We are making sure that in order to do business in China, you have to give all your intellectual property. You have to have a partner in China. It's 51%. We would not do that at all, number one. Number two, we're in a situation where China would have to play by the rules internationally as well when i met with she

Starting point is 01:34:49 that and uh... when i was still vice president said we're setting up a identification zone and the south china c you can't fly through them i said we're gonna fly through them we just flew b fifty to be be one bombers through it we're not gonna pay attention they have to play by the rules and what she do he embraces guys like the thugs like in North Korea and and the Chinese president and Putin and others and he focuses finger down all of our friends all of our allies we make up only

Starting point is 01:35:19 We're 25% 25% of the world's economy we need to be having the rest of our friends with us, saying to China. These are the rules. You play by them when you're gonna pay the price for not paying by them economically. That's the way I will run it. And that's what we did.

Starting point is 01:35:36 But for eight years under Obama, China was never, never paid the price. Let's talk about Northland. Let me have an answer. Let me have an answer. Let me have an answer. Okay, very quickly. One more bottle with a billion of the $1. Okay very quickly. I'm going to have $1.5 from China.

Starting point is 01:35:47 Dodge. Every 10 minutes in office and being in Air Force 2. Number one. Number two, there's a very strong email talking about your family wanting to make $10 million a year for introductions. President Trump, I'm trying to policy though. What's no particular? Are you going to do? What's no particular, are you gonna do?

Starting point is 01:36:05 What specifically are you going to do to make the Republican, you've said just a sh**. She's not doing it. She's protecting. And the billions and millions and millions. That's how she raised her voice like that, the other one. You said she's no policy.

Starting point is 01:36:15 What are you gonna do? You want to talk about the very first. Tax payer's money. There's what? Tax payer's money. You can come to China. You know the tax payer is, it's called China. China pays you China pay 28 billion and you know what they did to pay a Joe They devalued their currency and they also paid out and you know we got the money our farmers our great farmers because they would target it

Starting point is 01:36:35 You never charged them anything also you want to charge you want it stronger than it's been in years Chinese stock market has 1996, yesterday. Okay. Vice President Biden, your response, please. Our response is, look, this isn't about, there's a reason why he's been up all this malarkey. There's a reason. He doesn't want to talk about the substance evictions.

Starting point is 01:36:58 It's not about his family and my family. It's about your family, and your family's hurting badly. If you're making less than, if you're a middle your family and your family's hurting badly. If you're making less than, if you're a middle class family, you're getting hurt badly right now. You're sitting at the kitchen table this morning deciding, but we can't get in the dark. It's a great deflag because we have to wait another month. Very good deflag the right thing. We're going to be able to pay the mortgage.

Starting point is 01:37:18 Who's going to pay? Neither of them are said that they're going to do the China. Neither. Community college. Correct. They're the decision you make. They're just wasted just wasted airtime. There's four years of experience of what it's from.

Starting point is 01:37:28 China. Yeah. It's time, but it's semiconductor. It's not soybeans. Sorry. I want to say you have to focus on the right issues. I did want to turn to 10 seconds, Mr. President. 10 seconds.

Starting point is 01:37:39 Let's get off this China thing and then he looks, the family, around the table, everything. Just a typical politician when I see that. Let's talk about our Korean. Okay. That's why I got elected. Let's get off the subject of China. Let's talk around sitting around the table. Come on, Joe, you can do better.

Starting point is 01:37:55 We're going to talk about our Korean traditional Chinese met with Korean leader Tim Jong-un. Three times. Everybody can see through that. Talked about your beautiful letters with him. You've touted the fact that there hasn't been a war or a long-range missile test. And yet North Korea recently rolled out its biggest ever intercontinental ballistic missile and continues to develop its nuclear arsenal.

Starting point is 01:38:14 Do you see that as a betrayal of the relationship you pour in just 30 seconds here because we need to get on to the next? So when I met with Barack Obama, we sat in the White House. Right at the beginning had a great conversation. It was supposed to be 15 minutes, and it was well over an hour. He said, the biggest problem we have with North Korea.

Starting point is 01:38:32 He indicated, we will be in a war with North Korea. Guess what? It would be a nuclear war. And he does have plenty of nuclear capability. In the meantime, I have a very good relationship with him. Different kind of a guy, but he probably thinks the same thing about me. We have a different kind of a relationship. We have a very good relationship and there's no war.

Starting point is 01:38:51 And you know, about two months ago, he broke into a certain area, they said, oh, there's going to be trouble. They said, no, they're not, because he's not going to do that. And I was right. Look, instead of being in a war where millions of people sold, you know, it's 25 miles away, millions and millions, 32 million people and so millions of people would be dead right now. President Trump has 30 seconds to make it.

Starting point is 01:39:12 Vice President Biden to you, North Korean conducted four nuclear tests under the Obama administration. Why do you think you would be able to reign in this persistent threat? Because I'd make it clear, which we were making clear to China. They had to be part of the deal because here's the ring. I made it clear, and as a spokesperson of the administration, and I went to China, that they said, why are you moving your missile defense

Starting point is 01:39:33 up so close? Why are you moving more forces here? Why are you continuing to do military maneuvers with South Korea? I said, because North Korea is a problem, and we're going to continue to do it so we can control them. We're going to make sure we can control them and make sure they cannot hurt us. And so if you want to do something about it, step up and help if not, it's going to continue. What has he done?

Starting point is 01:39:56 He's legitimized North Korea. He's talked about his good buddy who's a thug, a thug, and he talks about how we're better off and they are have much more capable missiles able to reach us territory much more easily than ever did before let me follow up with you by President Biden you said you wouldn't meet with Kim Jong-un without preconditions are there any conditions under which you would meet with him on the condition that he would agree that he would be but drawing down his nuclear capacity to get that the Korean peninsula should be nuclear free zone. All right, let's move on to American family. They tried to meet with him. He wouldn't do it. He didn't like Obama. He didn't like him. He wouldn't do it. Okay, I gotta give him a good

Starting point is 01:40:39 response to that. He wouldn't do it. And it's okay. You know what? North Korea? We're not in a war. We have a good relationship. You know, people don't listen. Having a good relationship with leaders of other countries. We have a lot of questions to get to. You know what I'm saying? And we had a good relationship with Hitler

Starting point is 01:40:56 before he, in fact, invaded the rest of Europe. Come on. There's the reason he would not be with the President Obama is because President Obama said, we're gonna talk about denuclearization. We're not gonna legitimize you. come on is the reason he would not be with the president obama's because president obama said we're going to talk about denuclearization we're not going to legitimize you were going to continue to push stronger and stronger sanctions on you

Starting point is 01:41:12 that's why he wouldn't meet with us all right let's talk about a message president Trump okay they left me a mess north korea was a mess we need to remember the first two or three months, there was a very dangerous period in my first three months

Starting point is 01:41:30 before we sort of worked things out a little bit. There was a very day. They left us a mess. And Obama would be, I think, the first to say, there was the single biggest problem he thought that our country was. Okay, let's move on to American families and the economy. One of the issues that's most important to them is health care, as you both know.

Starting point is 01:41:50 Today, there was a key vote on a new Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett, and health care is at the center of her confirmation fight. Over 20 million Americans get their health insurance through the Affordable Care Act. It's headed to the Supreme Court, and your administration, Mr. President, is advocating for the Court to overturn it. If the Supreme Court does overturn that law, those 20 million Americans could lose their health insurance almost overnight.

Starting point is 01:42:14 So what would you do if those people have their health insurance taken away, you have two minutes unenorated? First of all, I've already done something that nobody thought was possible. Through the legislature, I have terminated the individual mandate. That is the worst part of Obamacare, as we call it. The individual mandate where you have to pay a fortune for the privilege of not having to pay for bad health insurance.

Starting point is 01:42:37 I terminated. It's gone. Now it's in court because Obamacare is no good. But then I made a decision, run it as well as you can to my people, great people. Run it as well as you can. I could have gone the other route and made everybody very unhappy. They ran it. Premiums are down, everything's down. Here's the problem. No matter how well you run it, it's no good. What we'd like to do is terminate it. We have the individual mandate done. I don't know that it's going to work. If we don't win

Starting point is 01:43:06 We will have to run it and we'll have Obamacare, but it'll be better run But it no longer is Obamacare because without the individual mandate, it's much different pre-existing conditions We'll always say what I would like to do is a much better healthcare much better We'll always protect people with pre-existing. So I'd like to terminate Obamacare, come up with a brand new beautiful healthcare. The Democrats will do what? They do. They'll do what?

Starting point is 01:43:32 They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what?

Starting point is 01:43:40 They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? They'll do what? healthcare, always protecting people with pre-existing conditions. And one thing very important, we have 180 million people out there that have great private healthcare. Far more than we're talking about with Obamacare, Joe Biden is going to terminate all of those policies.

Starting point is 01:43:55 These are people that love their healthcare. People that have been successful, middle-income people, been successful. They have 180 million plans, 180 million people, families, under what he wants to do, which will basically be socialized medicine. He won't even have a choice. They want to terminate 180 million plans. We have done an incredible job on health care, and we're going to do even better. Okay. Vice President Biden, yes, this yes, they may have been calls for building on the public care. So my question is, what is your plan? If the law is ruled unconstitutional

Starting point is 01:44:31 by the Supreme Court, you have two minutes uninterrupted. What I'm going to do is pass a Wama Care with a public option. What I'm going to do is what the law tells me to do. Public option is an option that says that if you in fact do not have the wherewithal to be if you qualify for Medicaid and you do not have the wherewithal then your state to get Medicaid you automatically enroll providing competition for insurance companies. That's what's going to happen. Secondly we're going to make sure we reduce the premiums and reduce drug prices by making sure that there's competition that doesn't exist now by allowing the Medicare to negotiate drug prices with the insurance companies.

Starting point is 01:45:12 Thirdly, the idea that I want to eliminate private insurance, the reason why I had such a fight with 20 candidates for the nomination was I support private insurance. That's why I did not one single person of private insurance would lose their insurance under my plan, nor did they under Obamacare. They did not lose their insurance unless they chose they wanted to go to something else. Lastly, we're going to make sure we're in a situation that we've actually protect pre-existing. There's no way he can protect pre-existing conditions. None, zero. You can't do it in the ether. He's been talking about this for a long time.

Starting point is 01:45:52 There is no, he's never come up with a plan. I guess we're going to get the pre-existing condition plan the same time we get the infrastructure plan that went away since 17, 18, 19, 20. The fact I still have a few more minutes. I know you're getting anxious. The fact is that he's already caused the American people because of a terrible handling of a COVID virus and the economic spillover, 10 million people have lost their private insurance. And he wants to take away 22 million more people

Starting point is 01:46:21 who have it on our Obamacare, and over 110 million people with preexisting conditions, and all the people from coven are gonna have free existing conditions what are they gonna do I have a follow-up for you by President Biden that was his first that was his best two minutes yet because he's playing out of plan that was substance concerns that your health care plan which includes the government insurance option takes the country one step closer to a health care system run entirely by the government. I say it's ridiculous. It's like saying that we're the idea that the fact that there's

Starting point is 01:46:53 a public option that people can choose that makes the socialist plan look. The difference between the President, I think health care is not a privilege, it's a right. Everyone should have the right to have affordable health care. And I am very proud of my plan. It's gotten endorsed by all the major labor unions as well as a whole range of other people who in fact are concerned in the medical field. This is something that's going to save people's lives. This is going to give some people an opportunity, an opportunity to have health care for their

Starting point is 01:47:23 children. How many of you home are worried and roll around in bed tonight wondering what in God's name you're going to do if you get sick? I'm worried if you get sick. Because you've lost your home insurance, your health insurance, your company's gone under. We have to provide health insurance for people and an affordable rate. That's what I do. President Trump, you were there.

Starting point is 01:47:41 You were there for 47 years. He didn't do it. He was now there as Vice President of for 8, and it's not like it was 25 years ago. It was three and three quarters. It was just a little while ago, right? Less than four years ago. He didn't do anything.

Starting point is 01:47:56 He didn't do it. He won socializing medicine, and it's not that he wants it. His Vice President, I mean, she is more liberal than Bernie Sanders and once and even more. Bernie Sanders wants it, the Democrats want it. You're going to have socialized medicine, just like you were with fracking. We're not going to have fracking, we're going to stop fracking, we're going to stop fracking. Then he goes to Pennsylvania after he gets a nomination where he got very lucky to get it. And he goes to Pennsylvania and he says, oh, we're going to have fracking.

Starting point is 01:48:24 And you never answer that question. And by the way, so far, I respect very much the way you're handling this. I have to say, but somebody should ask the question. He goes for a year. You're giving your boy a good job. We have a lot of team in the community. Now, let's see what we're going to get to do. The same thing with socialize. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us. She keeps us. She keeps us. She keeps us up. She keeps us up. She keeps us. She keeps us up. She keeps us. She keeps us up. She keeps us. She gives us a slight pressure. She's almost how to play with people, because you're in the way to the end. Building up a confident world. I don't think that's very good.

Starting point is 01:48:48 I don't know. I don't know. And not the fake news, you're a proposed one. Let's provide for that and afford it about health care. Lower premiums, what we're going to do is going to cost the money. It's going to cost the recession. We're going to be going to spend $10 years doing.

Starting point is 01:48:59 And they're going to be able to have lower premiums. You can buy into the better plans. The cheaper plans, lower your premiums, deal with unexpected billing and have your drug prices drop significantly. He keeps talking about it. He hasn't done a thing for anybody on healthcare. Not a thing.

Starting point is 01:49:16 Very quickly, but I want to talk about what's happening on the Gap House. He's talking about socialized medicine. And when he and healthcare, when he talks about a public option, he's talking about destroying your Medicare, totally destroyed, and destroying your social security. And this whole country will come down.

Starting point is 01:49:32 You know, Bernie Sanders tried it, Bernie stayed. He tried it in his state. His governor was a very liberal governor. They want to make it work. Okay. Let's hear from President Biden's question about the risk of the crisis.

Starting point is 01:49:43 It doesn't work. He's a very serious guy. He thinks he's running against somebody else Bush who might be president of Biden. It does seem like president of Biden. He's a very confused guy. He thinks he's running against somebody else. He's running against Joe Biden. I've beat all those other people because I disagreed with him. Joe Biden is running against the guy. That was actually very good.

Starting point is 01:49:55 That was strong. That was actually very good. I'm gonna destroy Medicare. This is the guy that the actuary Medicare said, if in fact, that's Social Security. If in fact, if he's not cutting him off. Look at what he's doing with the whole, has planned to withhold, that's Social Security. If in fact, if she does have him off, with whole, has planned to withhold the tax on Social Security, Social Security will be bankrupted in by 2023,

Starting point is 01:50:14 with no way to make a fool. This is the guy who's trying to cut Medicare. So, I don't know, I mean, the idea that Donald Trump is lecturing me on social security and Medicare. Come on. He tried to get rid of, he tried to hurt social security years ago, years ago. Go back and look at the records. I think she wants to ask about so much. She wants to do something. Why are there something else she didn't do? Let's get to it. I have to move on to the next question.

Starting point is 01:50:40 He said the stock market will move if I'm elected. If he's elected, the stock market will crash. Okay. the next question. He said the stock market will not talk about it. If I'm elected, if he's elected, the stock market will crash. Okay. Very much.

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