PBD Podcast - How Much is Howard Stern Worth? | PBD Podcast | EP 18

Episode Date: October 8, 2020

On this episode, Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick and Tom Zenner sit down to discuss: 2:20 - Howard Stern could be making $2.3 million a week 16:35 - Daniel Ek trying to create an European Silicon Valley 24:30 - Trump sign popping up in LA 28:50 - Thoughts on VP debate between Pence and Harris 1:00:00 - Talking about Taxes 1:05:00 - The Danger of people like AOC 1:17:00 - Trump saying he wouldn't do a virtual debate 1:24:00 - New round of stimulus 1:30:00 - Patrick talking to Adam about the policies that are most important to him 1:42:00 - Chances of civil war after the election outcome 1:51:30 - NBA saying they wouldn't keep promoting social justice the same way next season The Patrick BetDavid Show Podcast Episode 18.  Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list The BetDavid Podcast is a podcast that discusses, current events, trending topics, and politics as they relate to life and business. Stay tuned for new episodes and guest appearances. Connect with Patrick on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patrickbetdavid/?hl=en Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/patrickbetdavid Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PatrickBetDavid.Valuetainment Follow the guests in this episode: Tom Zenner: https://bit.ly/3jJ93CN Adam Sosnick: https://bit.ly/2PqllTj To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: [e-mail] About the host: Patrick is a successful startup entrepreneur, CEO of PHP Agency, Inc., emerging author, and Creator of Valuetainment on Youtube. As a natural critical thinker, Patrick takes complex leadership, management, and entrepreneurial ideas and converts them into simple life lessons for today and tomorrow’s entrepreneurs. Patrick is passionate about shaping the next generation of leaders by teaching thought-provoking perspectives on entrepreneurship and disrupting the traditional approach to a career. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

Okay, we are live with episode number 18. By the way, everybody, Adam came in ready. He's got his black shirt on. You may want to unbutton one more to show you. He's got a red chest like show it. Put the chin out. Oh, very regular. Put the chin out.

Ricky would have a tank top on us, but he would be doing. But what a night yesterday, huh? The debate. What a night. What a night yesterday. Obviously, we'll talk about it here in a minute for the VP debate folks. Thanks for joining us.

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We'll give ours here in a minute as well. But we got a lot to cover today. I still hear somebody else's audio because mine is on mute just so you guys know. As yours? I want to ask you out. Yeah, was yours. OK, good to go now.

So we got a lot of things to cover here. Trump administration announced the overhaul of the H1B1. Visa program. Why he's doing it? You have to pay the folks on the H1B1 more than the American people, which is pretty interesting what things they're talking about, but we'll get to that here in a minute. Stock rises that Trump appears to soften stance on stimulus. First, he said, no, I'm not going to do it until I get elected.

Then he changes mind and said, I'm going to be doing it. So we'll see what's going to happen there. Tech giants have screwed a regulation because I'm not monopolized. I've been defined by law Democrats are now trying to rewrite those law. They end up oil jobs. Trump's new ad video, which you got to see it will remind you of the Apple think different video. We haven't touched up on this topic yet.

We're going to try to get it in today. European Silicon Valley. Maybe we get into that. King of all media income, Howard Stern, you will not believe the contract he just got. It's ridiculous to contract he just got. And then the Pope, the Pope says, capitalism doesn't work, we need to change it.

So maybe we need to listen to what he has to say, VP debate, ballot harvesting, maybe we'll get into that, and NBA is thinking about getting away from the BLM campaign that they had this year. And a weird sign that showed up on the side of the 405 freeway, which was pretty interesting we'll get into that too as well. But let's first talk about the most important topic for the first 10 minutes of today's podcast, Howard Stern.

That's number one. So the debate was a few months ago Joe Rogan got a hundred million dollar contract from Spotify. Okay. The numbers over four year period, some are saying it's more than that. Some are saying it's not a hundred million over four years. Some close friends are saying we know the number, it's much more than a hundred million. I would say his contract needed to be around a quarter of a billion dollars.

That's what I would say over four years, fifty a year. I think Joe's a fifty a year guy, no question about it. But here's what just happened. Howard Stern, okay, who's on serious XM radio, okay? If you've ever listened to his show and said to yourself, gee, I know Howard Stern's making 90 million year, but man, I think he's underpaid. Some other people agree.

His bosses think he's underpaid. Bloomberg other people agree his bosses think he's underpaid. Bloomberg.com just reported that series XM Holdings is working on a contract that would give Stern, you ready for this? $120 million dollar salary per year. Let me say this one more time. $120 million dollar your salary. Not $120 million dollar contract. Not $120 million over five years. Not $120 million your salary, not a $120 million contract, not a $120 million over five years, not a $120 million over three years, $120 million per year at the age of 71, the moment they announced is serious stock climb, $5.95, seven percent it increased,

the moment the announcement was made that is getting that kind of a raise. So is it worth it or not a hundred and twenty million dollar your time? Easy answer, very, very easy answer. One word answer. No. He is not worth it. Not worth it.

Not worth it. Was he? Yeah. Probably more in the past. Wow. 2005, 2006, when he came over to Syria sex, I mean, built it and made it into what it is. Yes. And here's why I say no. Okay, he was making 90.

Now, I'm a fan of Howard. I like Howard. He's tailing off, okay? He's not into it as much as he was. The show is suffering, in my opinion. And here's the other thing that why it's not worth it. He's become political. And that means you are going to alienate half your audience.

And I guarantee you there will be people canceling their subscription to Sirius XM because of his support, his blinding support for Biden, his hatred now for Trump. It's gotten over the top. And- I thought him and Trump were friends for long. I mean, they used to be- Right. They used to be, but he's using that as an excuse now, that he doesn't support him.

And look, this is a subscription-based model. Yeah. Okay? People can make the decision with their credit card. And now, look, these guys aren't idiots at Sirius XM. They know what they're doing, the stock went up, because I think they were so afraid that he wasn't- He- he- he- he hangs them, you know? He- he's got them by the short hairs all the time

because he's, he's messing with them, whether he's gonna resign another five-year deal but I do not believe it's gonna be worth it for five more years at a buck 20 a year. 600 million out of control. Because of, because of his political stances now. Dude, the guy's currently making 90 million a year. Are you freaking kidding me?

Yeah. So he's, he's, he's, he. So he's do a raise inflation, 120 million, are you kidding me? Even if he gets, meets in the middle between 90 and 120 and settles on 105 million a year. How it doesn't settle. Okay. He won't settle on anything on that deal.

Howard Stern comes again, his latest book that just came out I think a year ago. Yeah. The thing with Howard Stern, he's the OG in this. He is the, you wrote the King of All Meeting and income, was that like a pun? Yeah, okay, it was good. King of All Media, man, he started this thing.

There'd be no Joe Rogan, there'd be no PBD podcast. There'd be no podcast ever, we're not for Howard Stern. He jumped ship from radio, what, 12, 15 years ago, to a serious XM, homie makes $90 million here's the thing about Howard Stern. Whatever guest he wants, he gets. You want Trump on, he gets Trump. You want Hillary Clinton on, you get Hillary Clinton.

You want musical acts, he gets musical acts. You want the biggest stars in the world, they come on Howard Stern, first and foremost. Now, I think it's fair to say, Joe Rogan's coming for his crowd, right? I mean, as far as viewership, as far as credibility, as far as getting guests, but how it turns to OG. So, is he worth 90 million? Obviously, they're paying him that. Is he worth 120 million?

Potentially, the guy's going to get 100 million. No debt. And he's 65. He'll be 71 at the end of this contract, right? The guy's still got some gas left in his tank. I don't think he's 65, he'll be 71 at the end of this contract, right? The guy's still got some gas left in his tank. I don't think he's done whatsoever. You got Trump who's 72, 73, how? 74. 74. 74.

Trump 74. Biden's 104. Yeah. But look at how good he doesn't look 104. He looks like 85. You see, minimum. Minimum 85. How about that shot from behind of Biden?

Where he's bald They hide that very very well, but he is flat out bald on the backside of his head It looks pretty rough. What are you saying about both people? I'm just saying that I didn't just cuz you got a good head I thought Biden was more Vivaldi but when you look at him from behind man He is bald don't look at him from behind look I'm straight in the eye dead in the eye So so you're saying he's worth it. You're saying I'm saying I'm saying it's not worth it to serious XM I say they're gonna have a ton of cancellations

So let me ask you this if they don't go after him. Who did they go get at that level? Put no one there is no other name at that level. You know, no other name You have a watch remember when they changed the contracts a couple years ago Mike Connolly got a hundred and sixty million dollar Conchart for four years. You're like, who's getting 164? What are you paying this contract? And a Lakers sign a massive deal with Lua Dang. You're paying the price. Yeah, there's still plenty of price.

I'm like, what are you guys doing? I know, it's so stupid. What is this all about with this contract? But sometimes when the talent pool isn't big, you got to pick up or somebody else is going to pick up. Because here's the numbers. If you look at Series XM stock, can you pull up Series XM stock? Just look at Series XM stock in the last 12 years.

If you look at Series XM stock, go max. Yeah, let's just say it goes. Look at that. At 100. Go a little bit more to the left. It's $58.60. Go one more. 60, 56 bucks. Wow.

And now it's gone down, down, down, go, keep going to the right, all the way to the right, all the way to the right. Look at that. You know, they're trying to barely make it together. Like, yes, it is, he takes my car. And she says, Pat, I noticed your radio stations and your car weren't fixed, so I fixed them. And I put some radio stations for you to listen to.

Kai starts laughing over there, and he's laughing, and she's not paying attention to Kai. I said, Ziya, I don't know if you're knowing that. I don't listen to anything on the car, in the car. She says, but you got serious ex-m, I said, I honestly didn't even know I had serious ex-m. But I got to tell you, five, ten years ago, when cars would say, it comes with serious ex-m. You know, you're like, oh my gosh, that was serious exam. Today it's a whole different story.

People are all tuned into a podcast, people are listening to something else. This is the other part I will say about this thing here. I will say the interview that he recently did with Hillary Clinton, you know what everybody said? He got her to talk about stuff. I think even you said like it was phenomenal. Yeah, he got her to talk about stuff that maybe no one's ever talked about before.

Maybe Howard's about to go on the second run and he's pitched him behind closed or saying there's a one thing I've never touched. It's politics. I think I can get things out of people that others can't. I don't know. I know Howard's a sales guy. And if you know the guy's story, the guy's a very good sales guy. I'll tell you what.

I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I'll tell sales guy. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. And there's no way someone's given a guy $120 million without thinking in the back end that this guy's gonna deliver. So they're banking on them, too. There's not a lot of talent right now. That's at that level. Three, Rogan just signed with Spotify,

the biggest fear, the best thing that happened to Howard Stern, believe it or not, is the fact that Spotify said they're getting broken and outside of that series XM is sitting behind closed doors you know what they're worried about? Who just announced four weeks ago they're going in the podcast game? Who just announced?

The Amazon. Amazon. Are you kidding me? A two trillion dollar company said we're going into podcasts so series XM is saying they're saying, dude, they'll pay the sky 120 million, that's nothing for them. So there's a lot of things behind closed doors that you don't know about whereMSN, they're saying, dude, they'll pay to Scott Hunter 20 million. That's nothing for them. So there's a lot of things behind closed doors that you don't know about where Howard may be coming up saying,

look, I got Amazon came knocking, man, and I'm taking the call. I'm gonna have a meeting with that. Who? Amazon? So you know what else I think too, if you listen to Howard, like I said, I'm a fan of Howard.

I just think he's lost a step on his game. I really do. What do you mean by lost a step? He's not as good as he used to be. His interviewing abilities are phenomenal. How often does he do big interviews? It's not that who's coming in studio with COVID. No one's coming in there anymore.

Howard's scared as hell anyway. He's doing the show from the Hamptons. Here, a couple things. Howard's a loyal guy. He protects his guys. And those guys don't have careers without him, right? The happiest people are JD, Baba Bowie, Robyn Zoke, on her own, but I think he does that

to keep those guys relevant. At least a little fraction of it. He really, they helped build him. By the way, trivia question, who replaced Howard Stern when he left Terrestrial Radio in 2005? Who replaced him? David Lee Roth. Can you freaking believe that?

It lasted about two months. He came on so cocky, so arrogant, so out of touch. I think it lasted two or three. I mean, he did not appreciate how he didn't respect him and he was blasted out of there almost immediately. Well, that doesn't work. You can't come in and do things like that. Rest in peace, Eddie Van Halen speaking of David Lowe.

Yeah, I mean, I was in a meeting with the investors when Ian announced that Eddie Van Halen died at 65 years old and, you know, Mario's a big fan and I think everybody's listened to his music obviously we got somebody like that with that kind of talent coming up. One time he told a story about one time is it Black Sabbath? Who was part of Black Sabbath? Let's get Mario in here. Who's the Alice Cooper? No it's not Cooper. Who's part of Black Sabbath leader? So one time they're doing a concert and they said Van Halen is opening up and he comes

up to open up. He crushed it better than the main show and from that point on, he left. Who's the guy? Yeah. Ozzy Osborne left saying, the hell with you guys, he left and started something else. He said, because if these guys got their stuff together like this, right. Anyways, it's a rest and peace.

Eddie, one's the last time you watched Howard Stern. I don't watch. Listen, I don't watch. I just know his story. So you don't watch him at all. I'm not a house. And you, you know, I'll,

can't time to time. But you know what? He's got three channels so you can get the recap. So sometimes I'll do that every once in a while. But, you know, let me tell you, I don't watch all that. I don't watch all that often, I don't watch all that often, but I'll tell you what is sick that I have watched episode after episode

just kind of went on a binge. He has top musical acts show up in the studio or he's has before COVID. And jam out, counting crows, Katy Perry, just the list goes on and on. There's some of the episodes I watch, but musical acts show up, sing their songs, Occapel, a rock out, have a band there.

It's pretty freaking dope. Listen, I'm telling you, I'm for paying them. You don't pay, the market's gonna pay them. What do you like them or not? Market's gonna pay this guy. The whole micronomally story. You don't wanna pay me? No problem.

There's only 300 NBA players out there. 280 of them are signed. 20 of them are looking for contract. You're dealing with 20. You're gonna pull people from college for a Puerto Rico. I'm into top 20 players that are available to buy. You want to buy me, campaign me. The current contracts are 160. So he got paid. By the way, you know what Howard Stern just did. Let me tell you what Howard Stern just did. Howard Stern just made Joe Rogan a billionaire. I'm going to say this one more time. Joe Rogan is

officially billionaire and he doesn't. A billionaire. Five years he's this one more time. Joe Rogan is officially billionaire, and he doesn't. Billionaire. Five years he's got to wait, it's gone his way. Yeah. And five years he's gonna get a $200 million dollar of your contract. In five years.

In five years. In five years. Level up the plan, Phil. No, this is all it might do. Level one. When Steve Balmer bought the Clippers, Michael Jordan became a billionaire. Sure.

When Steve Balmer bought the Clippers. And an organization that was worth nothing. San Diego clippers is when Sterling, Donald Sterling bought him and he was a commercial real estate guy. For a careless about the NBA. Could careless about the NBA. Balmer paid 2.2. Every NBA owner said,

thank you, Balmer. You officially made us richer, right? Howard Stern officially made a lot of people rich. That's a good point. So, hey, more power to all the podcast. Let me give you a my calling analogy that will not... My Connolly get his name right? My Connolly, yeah, yeah, Memphis Grizzlies. He just got traded to Utah. But here's what's going to happen with talent like this,

talent like Joe Rogan. Yeah. My Connolly signs a five year, $150 million contract, whatever it was with a Memphis Grizzlies. First two, three years, cool he's doing great, he's an all-star and then what happens to a lot of these contracts, they fall off, they get traded, he ends up in Utah, he doesn't do as well. All of a sudden, you're paying 30 something million for a guy who's a questionable starter, respect to Mike Hollney though.

That's not going to happen with talent like this. No. Like, he's not going to lose his mind or loses, no. He's gassing the tank or loses wheels. Three, four years ago. He's gonna go for a while. He's gonna go for a while. Look, and reality, much love to Howard Stern for getting his money.

I respect them. If you can get your money, go get it. You got it. Good for you. That's the game of capital. I respect anybody that can negotiate behind closed doors and get paid what they get paid in this kind of dollars. You bring value where the markets will underpay this kind of money, more power to you, more

to become a- Do you think it gets 120 million? Bottom line. I don't know if he does or not. All I'm saying is that the bench isn't deep. The market of free agent isn't big at this level. No, he's getting 120, especially now- You think he's going to get it?

Of course he's going to get it. He just said he's not worth it. No, I was saying I don't think it's ultimately going to be worth it to serious XM, but he's going to get the buck 20 because it's already been talked about. He's not said only for a penny. But it's just that. You know how hard it is to keep people's attention. People think it's an easy game.

So Howard Stern's been on radio for how long? I mean, 40 years. 40 years, okay. He's replaced by who? David Lee Roth. David Lee Roth. How long did Trump run a print is? 15 years.

Who was he replaced by? A very big personality. I'm not sure. He's not sure. He did Trump run a print is? 15 years, who was he replaced by? A very big personality. I'm a Schwarzenegger. Arnold Schwarzen, he couldn't do a print is. It's not the easiest job to keep people's attention, even with a name like Arnold, movie star. How long did Arnold's last? I love you.

Barely a year. And it was horrible. And part of the problem is, those guys have such confidence, and their egos are so big, they think they can step right in, take it another direction, make it even better, and it does it,

because that show was Trump, and no one can replace him. It's not how it works. You gotta do more than that when you're talking about the spot. By the way, take giants. Okay, let's talk about European Silicon Valley. So, the founder Spotify, Daniel Eck,

said he would immense a billion euros, $1.2 billion of his personal fortune in deep tech, moonshot projects spread across over 10 years. He indicated that he was referring to machine learning, biotechnology, material sciences, and energy as a sector, he'd like to invest in. I want to do my part, we all know the one the greatest challenges is access to capital.

He said, adding he wanted to achieve a new European dream, meaning similar to the American dream, he wants to create a Silicon Valley and start a European dream. I get really frustrated when I see European entrepreneurs giving up on their dreams, amazing vision selling early onto non-European companies or when some of the most promising tech talent in Europe leaves because they don't feel valued here. We need more super companies that raise the bar and can act as an inspiration. Thoughts, will this work a European Silicon Valley?

Not to the level that we have, not even close, but I applaud him. I think that's admirable because I think these entrepreneurs, these tech genius entrepreneurs in Europe don't have a level playing field for what we have here because we have a free country where it's easier to do it I think there's limitations because of government so when I see him stepping up like this as long as it's sincere I'm all for it. I think it's a great idea. What cities are gonna be in is there gonna be a central location? Because that's the biggest problem that they're gonna face. Type in European Silicon Valley, EK, well European Silicon Valley, go ahead Adam. I think he's based out of Stockholm

I want to say I don't think Stockholm Sweden is gonna be, European Silicon Valley, go ahead Adam. I think he's based out of Stockholm, I want to say. I don't think Stockholm, Sweden is going to be the next Silicon Valley. I don't think it's going to be Dublin, Ireland. I don't think it's going to be London, per se, for tech. I don't think it's going to be Paris. I don't know if they work hard enough.

Brussels, that's where the head of the EU is, right? And Brussels, people are saying Lisbon Portugal is a good place to start up tech, Germany, Munich, Berlin. But I'm naming all these cities because that's how fragmented it potentially could be. In America, we know if you want to get involved in the tech game, you go to San Francisco, Silicon Valley, straight up. Straight up. You want to get involved in the financial game, you go to New York, don't.

You want to get involved in Hollywood, game, you go to New York, done. You want to get involved in Hollywood, you're going to move into LA. You want to have a little of best of all worlds, you go down to Miami. Yeah. You know where to go. It's very fragment here. So I respect this guy.

I'm not sure what European, where's Daniel Eck from, Kyle? Do you have a quick country for me? Is he Swedish? Whatever he is. I respect him for trying to keep talent here in Europe, but I don't think anything's gonna be replaced in Silicon Valley anytime soon. Look at all the companies that have come out of Silicon Valley, right? Google, Amazon, well, did Amazon come out of Silicon Valley?

Well, PayPal. The list goes on Facebook, obviously. Apple, all the list goes on and on. What's come out of Europe? What? Name a company in the United States. Why, that's the question is why. Why hasn't it?

Kai, take a look at your phone and bring that tweet up about Greg Apple, what he just said yesterday. Why? Why has no company come out of Europe? Because there's no central location for them all to go. Oh, that's why. So you're saying the reason why it hasn't come out

of Europe is because of central location and where to go. I'm saying there is no central location. Am I saying that's the reason why? So let me explain to you. So the other day, I sat down with the CEO of AIG of UK. London, he's now the CEO of AIG. So he and I had a meeting together a few months back, okay. And Sharp, Sharp guy, the division that he's running,

he's a CEO for. And we were thinking about expanding to UK and London. When I went to London on one night, I sent a Instagram and I said, I'm gonna do a meetup by this one bridge. A hundred people showed up at 9.30 and it's raining. We have the video, we couldn't pull them up, I'm like, wait a minute.

And you know how many of the guys showed up, they're like, we're in insurance when you opening up. We want to work for the company in PHP and UK. I'm like, in UK, let me look into it. Let me look into it. So we meet up, we start talking. I said, so what does it take for me to go through licensing in UK?

Says, oh, you have to be a CFP, you have to be a this, you have to be a full timer, you cannot be a part-timer, you have to, he went through step by step by step, if you can pull up the tweet, step by step by step process, I just texted to you. Yeah, step by step process on all this stuff. Here's what Greg Yapa tweeted yesterday. I've been talking with NASDAQ Stock Exchange

about moving some of their operations to Texas. They want to flee high taxes. Let them know that we just passed, I let them know that we just passed a constitutional amendment banning and income tax in Texas. That's how you get entrepreneurs to be free. So there's a reason why there's not a Silicon Valley and all these companies being built in Europe.

You can put all the billions of dollars, Daniel, like, don't waste your money. They're gonna tax the hell out of it. You're gonna get so tired of it. You're gonna come back and say, dude, I thought this was gonna be a different story. These regulations are not just gonna let it happen. It has nothing to do with dream happen. It has nothing to do with

dreamers. It had nothing to do with the people that have a vision. He's got a very good point when he says here, I get really frustrated when I see European entrepreneurs giving up on their amazing vision, selling early on to non-European companies. Why do people sell early on to non-European companies because they are regulated and they want to sell it to somebody else? And they're just kind of like, I don't want to mess with it anymore. Or when some of the most promising tech talent in Europe leaves because they don't feel valued here,

it's not about they don't feel valued here, buddy. They got restraining, they got all these different regulations to do. Yeah, you know, can you put that tweet up again? Okay, so here's what I think, I look at this, it's brilliant, number one. I look at it as a trial balloon. It goes east, right?

Talking to Nasdaq about possibly moving to Texas. Do you think potentially a tech company could leave Silicon Valley? One of the big ones, because those guys want to make money too. They will. Tesla is talking about that, aren't they? I mean, could you freaking believe that?

I mean, well, he's an outlier. Elon Musk. But I'm talking about one of the big ones in Silicon. I actually do. And I think it's eventually going to happen. Look, guys, I'm telling you, there's one thing you can't do to, I was having a conversation with, who were we talking about yesterday when I said,

you can't have. So I'll look at the folks I work with in our company, right? And I'll look at certain personalities whom other can coexist in, okay? They can coexist in. We have a guy who's a very good friend, I've mentored this guy and his wife for quite some time now, Jose Marlingaitan, okay?

They, you've been around them before, I don't know if you've had a chance to meet them, you've been around them before, how chill? Two chill, how chill of a guy? Hey man. Can you coexist around them? Yeah, very chill. Does you make you feel like you're comfortable being around them for how chill? Too chill, how chill of a guy. Hey man. Can you co-exist around them? Yeah, very chill.

Does he make you feel like you're comfortable being around them? Very chill. Does he make you feel like he's the man? You better respect them or else you can't be around them? Not at all. Not as personality. He's chill, right? Yeah.

So when you're in certain markets, like you are in what he call it, in Silicon Valley, and you're on all this other talent. Sometimes you gotta go to a different place yourself, like in Austin, and not pay the taxes. And people think people are never gonna leave. They're gonna be here forever. You cannot have creative talent stay in a place confined to handcuffs and shackles

and over regulation because eventually talent who's very innovative, they have to be what? It's the F-word. It's the F-word that Kamala used last night. Free, but it's a different kind of a free. It's free to say what? Listen, like when we deal with these guys that are doing our sound and they're working on getting better,

I don't hover over them. Let's just guys, just get better. Let's figure this thing out. What are we doing? Just get better. It's all we got to do. We got to get better, right? No, no, no, no, you can't do that too much.

You got to let people be free. Let us figure that out. As long as you deliver, because free thinkers who are doers, they just want to be left alone. They're not going to do it in Europe. So I don't see this thing going too much in Europe because of regulation.

I may ask you a question, because you live in California, you're from California, you brought up the over-regulation point. California is pretty high taxes and pretty high regulation, right? That's their still of convales base. So what's the metaphor there? What's the, what's the, the, the, the, the, the, the question. Great question.

Can you pull up a four or five freeway? Check this out. Here's what's going on in California secretly that a lot of people don't know about. By the way, this just happened this week. They took down the Hollywood sign and actually replaced it with that. Yeah. This is the KTLA. That's four or five. I've gone down this road. God knows how many tens of thousands of miles and they put the Trump sign over there. Okay. And by the way, those mountains are always on fire just so you know, no literally. No, of course, how it's black. Yeah. Those mountains are always on fire. I'll let you know if that sign is still up this weekend.

Yeah. I have a funny feeling it won't be, or it would be the face or something. Whether it will be or not, because it's not hard to go to it and do whatever you want to do to it break it. Obviously, if you burn it, you go straight to prison because you're an arsonist,

but there's a lot of things you can do with that. More of the story is this, there are going to be certain people in the state of California that are either behind closed door conservative, fiscally conservative, entrepreneurs, innovators who are getting sick of the regulation who are either going to leave, or there's going to be those that are just going to come out publicly. And if California doesn't eventually change, you're not going to keep them forever. That's not how life works.

Okay. You can be in a lot of people that you see are married for 25 years, and then they get a divorce. You have to see people that get married for 25 years and get a divorce. Like, you got a divorce after 25 years. Basel's got a divorce after 25 years. What happens all the time, right?

Well, why didn't it marry at five years? Why not at 10 years? Kids, a lot of times it's kids. A lot of times it's, I don't wanna do it because we got kids, you know, let's just wait and, you know, let's make it work. We're gonna love each other. They're comfortable, it's, you're comfortable.

But eventually, dude, if you abuse a woman for too long, dude, eventually she's just, I can't do it anymore. I'm out, right? Vice versa, I'm out. Vice versa, too. Vice versa, yeah. So if you do this to California, eventually,

people are gonna like, dude, listen, I love you, California. Like, listen, you have no idea how much I love the state of California. You have no, when I go to California and I see it, I can't even help myself how much I love the state. But eventually, gonna push people out. So, I like Abbots moving.

I don't think this is gonna work in Europe, not because Daniel Eck is not doing a noble thing, trying to help people out. He needs to spend that money on regulation. He needs to come and say, hey, Europe, you wanna create a Silicon Valley? Yes, before I put my 1.2 billion, guess what I'd be doing, what's that?

Here's the five things you guys gotta do in whatever country offers these five things, low regulation, no taxes, all of this stuff that he goes through, I'm gonna put that 1.2 billion into your country and we're gonna make that the hub of Silicon Valley. That's the approach I would take. You never go and say, hey guys, here's 1.2 billion.

No, hold them back. Whoever does these five things will come into your state. But it's not my money, it's just money. Can I tell the audience how much you love California? Can I tell them how much you love LA? Tell them how much I love LA for you. I went with Pat, we actually met for lunch one day.

I went with Pat, I think it was like two, three weeks ago. He wanted me to experience his entire city so badly that he drove around the entire city driving 165 miles per hour, trying to get out of my way to see everything, everything. So he showed me the entire city. It was a blur. 165 miles per hour.

That's what I thought. That's so really good, that's one of. Can I make one observation? Sure. I'm on Silicon Valley that I could never figure out. And you tell me if you feel the same way, my daughter grew up in San Jose. So I was in San Jose twice a month for 15 years.

Pepperdine daughter. Yeah, she went to college at Pepperdine, but she grew up and went to high school and everything in the Bay Area. There is no energy in Silicon Valley. Like you cannot, it is not just no energy, it's dead. I could never figure out why whenever I get off the plane and walk through the airport in San Jose. And I'm in the heart of Silicon Valley, it felt so dead. I was so happy

when I didn't have to go there anymore. You know, I just dreaded it almost just because of, you know, of what it felt like, but for a place so vibrant and so many creative people and so much money, it just feels dead. Tom, maybe you don't know the right places. Maybe you don't know the right spots to go to, because what I know about guys up there, there's some of the biggest party animals in the world. Some of the guys behind closed doors, they put the most ridiculous underground party.

I know about those stories. Yeah, they're insane. Yeah, you want to get invited to a party. If you're single, you want to go to a party. I couldn't go to them because I was always hanging out with my daughter, but I got to get a lot of stuff. Well, there you go. There you go.

You went to a different kind of a party, a family party. Okay. Uh, uh, is it time for us to go into the VP debate? And just kind of gonna talk about the VP debate here. Okay. So if you're watching this, I saw a bunch of the scores you guys posted. By the way, we got $50 from, let me see, Ricky Bobby's on with us today, guys.

Ricky Bobby is on the podcast. Hell yeah. He's been in first year last. He's been in first year last. He's been in first year last. You want to gain to fight? You want to go fast. You want to go to 500,000 subscribers, start talking about the independent contractors that are all freight.

We never stop. Well, thank you, Ricky Bobby, for that $50 that you put out the bunches on Ricky Bobby. Yeah, it is. So let's get right into it, gang. Okay, so what was the score? I saw a bunch of scores up there. Somebody said zero, zero. Someone said 29, 27.

What was the VP debate score? Did it keep you going? Did you like it more than the presidential debate? So prior to going on to all the issues, if you wanna pull up all the topics that they debated, pull that up, the topics that was discussed on a vice presidential debate. Let me see what you got here.

Do you have any notes here, your self-kind of EP debate? Or no. Is there anything he has here or no? Nothing really here. OK. So last nice debate. What'd you think about it? Do you want my score?

Yeah. OK. It's not fair to ask me this question, by the way, because I am a professional sports commentator. So if I give you a score, and it's a metaphor for a football, again, you know, I'm going to be right. Tell us.

So I already won this. It was 25 to three. 25 to three. You also before you say who won. Obviously, you obviously lean very far. No, I don't. I evaluate what I see. I evaluate.

And I'm going to tell you. Here's why it's 25 to three. He scored four touchdowns for. He missed three extra points. Okay. So he's not perfect. He's not even really that good. Wow, terrible kicker.

Yeah, bad kicker. Yeah, it's the little things. It's the fundamentals sometimes. Yeah, 20 and she got a late feel goal. I mean, look, I was, I was not, I did not think it was a great debate. Maybe the bar was set so low from the first presidential debate, but at least that was compelling, it mattered. Now this one may matter because of the age of the real presidential debate, but at least that was compelling, it mattered. Now this one may matter because of the age

of the real presidential candidates, which frightens me even more, after watching that, but I didn't think it was a great debate. I didn't think the moderator did a fantastic job. I didn't think they brought a lot, and we can get into more details, but I'm gonna give it a score of 25-3 pence. Typical Tom over here.

Let's see what you got. Let's see your score, buddy. I got 100-0, comma. Just kidding. I got a hundred to zero, Kamala. Just kidding. Relax. What's your score? I got 1313 as a tie in overtime. There was no clear winner. I thought that was a debate. That first debate between Trump and Biden was an absolute shit show. Sorry if you're under 18. Listen to this show. Yeah. Complete shit show. Trump acting like a baby. Biden couldn't hold shit show. Sorry if you're under 18, listen to this show. Complete shit show. Trump acting like a baby, Biden couldn't hold it together.

That was disgusting. This was a real debate. They actually was substantive. They actually covered a lot of ground. They each had a couple different good points. I can kind of go what I thought some good points were. I'm sure we'll get into it. But there was two things that they each needed to do.

Pence, I think I thought Pents did a better job defending Trump's record than Trump did. Straight up. Pents, I mean, if I ever have a vice president, if I ever wanna run a company, I want someone like Pents by my side. No matter how F double. And you see it's 13-13.

Okay, yes. Cause Kamala did a great job. Cause what was Kamala's job? Great. What was her point to do that? All she has to do is hold serve. She doesn't need, she didn't pan into the left. She said, she says, I agree with fracking.

I'm good. That's called a lie in the American. It is, is it? It looks like a con. She said just a few months ago that she. I'm just saying, that's what she said there. So, she held, that's a lie buddy. Buddy, it pence goes there and just lies like crazy.

Which Trump doesn't lie like crazy. No, no, tell us how pence like. I didn't say Trump, tell us how pence like. Let's talk about the super spreader event at the White House at the Rose Garden. Okay. Let's just talk about that. Who's the head of the coronavirus task force?

Himself. Pence. He said when they said, do you take any blame for basically 25 people in the close, close, close to the cabinet? Yeah. Got COVID. Kaley McIntyre, hope Hicks. Yeah.

Trump himself. I think that's right. Ridiculous. No, I think you're right. Half his cabinet has COVID. Are you freaking kidding me? I think that. And Pence is in charge of that.

And by the way, that's why they made that the first topic because they knew that we're going to lose people after the first topic and she gave Kamala a very easy soft ball. Here you go, soft pitch. Here, go hit this one here and she opened it up with our line that she had prepared because she knew the first topic. What was the line? What was the line?

She came out and said, this is the worst hand link of a crisis we've ever seen in a history of America. You know, I'm prefacein' what she said, but something like that is what came out. And set the whole thing up. But tell me about the lies. Tell me about the lies.

Not like a responsibility, but lies with pens. Number one, he talked about the V-shaped economy, the recovery. We know that it's not a V-shaped recovery. Maybe the stock market is V-shaped. Maybe the rich are getting richer, but it's clearly a K-shaped economy. Okay.

Okay. We talked about how he tried to compare what's happening with COVID. But the American- The first in V-shape. Economy is a V-shape. The stock market is- Yes.

The stock market. The stock market isn't the economy though. It's a reflection of the economy. A reflection, but it's not. Unemployment went from 8.3 to 7.9, 661,000. There's still 20 million people unemployed though. But you already employed half of them though. You're going to do it in two months.

How you going to employ all these people and you want them to do it in two months? Are you kidding me? It's been seven months since COVID started. No, of course since COVID started. What I'm saying is from the peak, from the peak, you want that recovery two months, it took Obama years to recover from what he would bush. So you can make the recovery, buddy.

It's being recovered fairly quickly for what they had. The stock market for sure. And the main street we're getting there. Just as well. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure we'll go on a topic. But I want to know, I want to know specifically Pence's lies. Tell me where Pence's lies.

Where I thought he, number one, he ducked many questions. So did she. Ducked, so did she. So did Kamala. Like when they asked about. But the ducking of Pence was very different than Kamala. Kamala when it came to, she didn't have a clue. She, she bobbed and weaved like she was Muhammad Ali straight up. Pence would just not answer a question.

They asked him repeatedly, have you discussed a, a, a plan like a succession plan, what happens? Did it answer the question? Did it answer the question? Did it answer the question? Yes, it did not answer the question. Okay. Did not answer the question whatsoever.

The fact that he tried to correlate H1N1 swine flu to what's happening now is beyond laughable. Tell me why. Are you kidding me? How many people died of the H1N? Buddy, it's not the point of how many people died. The swine flu wasn't as deadly as this if it was, those 60 million cases that got it, if the same rate applied us COVID, 2 million people would have died.

If it's not about the, if it's about the fact that you let it spread, that's the part. It's about you let it spread and nobody shut down the economy. It was 60 million cases. They got lucky it wasn't deadly. How do you know how deadly a virus is? I'm not here to defend it. No, but I'm not here to, I'm 60 million cases, they got lucky, it wasn't deadly. How do you know how deadly a virus is? I'm not here to defend it. No, but I'm not here to, I'm not a, I will tell you what the reality is.

I will tell you, the swine flu is nothing compared to COVID. I will tell you what pens lost. I will tell you what pens. No, but what I'm trying to say is when it comes onto, let me tell you what I did last night, here's what I did last night, and I told this to generalize them when I went to bed. And by the way, for those of you guys that are watching this,

for me, my opinion, it's one of the best debates I've ever seen, okay, in a long time, okay. And what, when I say I'm talking, for me, it's the best VP debate ever that I've seen. I mean, I'm 41 years old, I haven't been around for a long time. I thought it was a great VP debate. Here's how I watched it. I tweeted, I'd said, I said, I said, Pence doesn't seem like a VP. Pence seems presidential. He doesn't look like a VP. Pence is the kind of guy that if your son said,

I want to grow up to be like Pence, you would say, okay, no problem. Sounds like a really good guy. Sometimes on the other side, like let me tell you, man, Trump inspired a lot of people to be Trumps. You know what I mean? A lot of people are like,

if it gives Trumps doing it, I'm gonna do it as well. You know, sometimes when somebody takes a new president that becomes a president, people take after that person's personality. You know when Obama was president, you were kinda like, okay, cool. You know, my boy wants to grow up to be like Obama.

I'm good with that. You know, because he was what? He was a swathed in. You know, I wanna grow up to be like Bill Clinton. I don't, I don't know about that, buddy. You know, you may wanna think twice, but maybe one, I want to grow up to be like Bill Clinton. I don't know about that, buddy. You know, you may want to think twice, but maybe one day you'll be a person. What's wrong with Bill Clinton?

Well, you know, some of the ways, personal life, all this stuff, you're like, good with it. I'm not about, I'm not, listen, I voted for the guy. So I'm a guy, I'm a fan of Bill Clinton. If I put Bill in, let's just say, Trump together, okay? When it comes, I'm not as a leader, remember, I am very logical in policies. I don't go emotion, some of the parties go emotion,

I don't go emotion, I go policies parties go emotion. I don't go emotion. I go policies. I watched the debate. I said, I'm like, dude, let me tell you, I would have no problem with my kids sitting there. My eight, seven, and four-year-old sitting there listening to the whole debate. I'm not comfortable then watching the other debate.

But if they watch it, I said, I'm like, okay, issues, dad, what is that? Dad, what is vaccine? Dad, what is this? I love that. We had a conversation together, right? Okay. Here's the other part. I watched

him and I said, try hating him. Try hating pants. You can't do it. A rational person. No, a rational person. Yeah. Try hating the guy. You can't do it. I say, try hating Trump. What's the answer? Very easy to do. Well, that's the biggest topic. I mean, yeah, but what I'm saying is like, the way he comes in, let me tell you I'm the best and I'm perfect, like right now, even this morning with Mario Bartoromo, he's like, my health has never been better in 20 years.

Did you, 20 years older? What do you mean your health has never been better? My health has never been better. I feel perfect. The keyword perfect. You've got COVID, you're perfect. Yeah, so what I'm trying to tell you, but I understand why some people may not like

his personality. I support policies people may not like this personality. I support policies, I don't go personality. Pants to me was presidential yesterday. Kamala, every time she was losing, she had that big laugh, the big laugh that she, she goes like this, I think I got, God, let me laugh like it's not a big deal. And then boom, she didn't have an answer.

It would happen twice. Both times there was one time where Joe kept bringing up her record as a prosecutor, as what she did. And that was, she kept doing this. She kept looking at the moderator like, hey, change it subject. And he's like, okay, vice president, Mr. Vice President, Mr. Vice President, she's just looking to be safe.

And says, I will not be lectured here to be undermined for my record. You asked me to score. You asked me to score 28-7, Penn's killed it. 28-7, not even close. Get it. Bro, the fact that the way he reacted when they took shots was so impregnate.

You cannot learn that skill. He's just kind of standing there, he's like, thank you, Susan. You know, first of all, when I saw you, my wife and I celebrated, when I saw you being selected in business, this was an incredible. I wanted to congratulate you in front of everybody. And she's like, oh, thank you, thank you. And, you know, but at the same time, look, Kamala Harris, you may have the right to your opinions, but you don't have the right to your truth in fact.

And just went through, and the way he did it, you're like, this is how this guy's gonna negotiate behind closed doors. Are you kidding me? I'm good with this guy the way handles it. It seemed so. President, you think he would ever after Trump? Yes. You think he would ever a run for president and B,

do you think he has any chance of being elected? I do. You think so. Well, yeah. I do. But he has to pick his VP the other way, round by the way. Exactly. He needs a wild man as his VP or not a wild woman. But he has to pick his VP the other way around by the way. Yeah, exactly. He's a wild man as his VP, not a wild woman, but he needs to pick his VP

to wait. Yeah. You know, he would never have a woman as a VP. Never. How do you know that? Because he can't spend for a time. He's literally cannot be alone in a room with a woman. That's true. That was why I respect that. You know, a couple of things about that. You know, when no one knew who Pence was when Trump picked him. And maybe there was a method to the badness because he almost is the perfect counterbalance. And you saw that last night just in their personalities, you mentioned Pat, that how can you hate him? You should see some of the tweets from Hollywood.

Joy Beihar, Elisamalana, they hate him. I mean, it was... I'm not surprised by that. I mean, it's unbelievable. But you got to realize, I understand why. Yeah, here's my biggest problem with Kamala last night. Well, I think she got hammered. Is A, she lied.

Okay, Joe Biden did not save the auto industry. I don't know how you can go up there and just make that comment that Joe Biden saved the auto industry. You know, she's completely lying about fracking. They are gonna stop fracking 100%. I thought, it depends, Miss an opportunity by bringing up the fact that she called Joe Biden

a racist during the president. He missed a lot of opportunities. I mean, that was the biggest opportunity that he missed and he's never gonna get a chance to do it again. I thought that was a huge gap by him. And then my biggest problem with her, when the moderator asked her about China and made the question,

is specific as you can possibly be, are they an adversary, an enemy, a competitor? She didn't even mention the word China. I mean, she didn't even answer it, and that answered the question to me that she's in Kahoot's. Yeah. Well, here's what you gotta think about. Kai, if you can pull up the topics that was brought up,

here's how you gotta think about that. So what is this? This is the VP. I want the VP one. Is this a VP debate? And these are the topics, right? Okay, let's go and look at the topics. Let's go look at the topics.

Go down, okay, go down. What was the one you had? I just saw a different one. Is that the one that it is? Okay. So they talk about Trump fine. COVID-19. Okay, let's just say Trump.

Let's just say Trump is a difficult person to defend. And I thought no one in the world could have done a better job defending Trump than Pence. I don't think he could have said a better thing. Defending his president, I think he crushed it. I think he may be one of the best number two guys I've seen in a long time. If I ever have a number two,

I want a guy like that. Let me tell you. No doubt. Oh, by the way, I also thought Kamala did a very good job always bringing him back to Joe. I thought she did a fantastic job saying, and under a Joe Biden administration, and I think Joe Biden is this

and one of the things about Joe, she was doing a great job being a flag here. It's not about half two. It's you have to know how to do that. I thought she did a phenomenal job on that side defending her candidate. When they talked about COVID-19, they spend the most time talking about short

that makes sense, that's what we're going through. Then the economy and then Biden's Supreme Court election raised foreign policy. You know what's keep going down, keep going down, keep going down, keep going down, keep going down, keep going down, keep going down. Look how much time they spent talking about China. 45 seconds. 45 seconds.

Look how much time they spent talking about abortion. 43 seconds. 43 seconds, they should have spent more time on it because Roe vs. Wade, I mean, that's something that's going to be what they're worried about with the Supreme Court. Yeah, second record. But China, you got ninety minutes the number one enemy okay

the cause of this and season couldn't ask more questions about china all i wanted to know about which china it was like china was like this or uh... china okay okay so let's go let's go let's go go she was terrible at follow-ups she was horrible she just didn't want to interrupt i mean she wanted to make sure that they weren't overgoing on their time i mean that was her big by the way i tell I tell you, even though I know

she leans left, I thought she did a good job. I'm not going to sit inside. Of course, she interrupted pants a lot more than Kamala and when Kamala's like, any time to respond, she gave it to her, but she didn't give it to him. There was a couple minutes where she got too much like, okay, I'll give you 30 seconds, but he would say, I'll give you 15 seconds, but he would say, I would give you 30 seconds. He would keep going over the clock. But he has to. But he never raised his voice when he did. He kept speaking. He kept speaking. She kept saying, thank you. You know, thank you. You're so good. What do you want to come along? I'm speaking. I'm speaking. That's a big. It's a big. It's more of a mental gift than anything to

be allowed yourself to live. You know, when I watch Kamala Harris and I look, I'm speaking. I'm speaking. That's a gift. That's a big gift. It's more of a mental gift than anything to be allowed yourself to live. When I watch Kamala Harris and I look, I'm just stating the facts here. I can totally understand how she didn't even make it to her home state for a primary, you know, for the Democrats. I mean, she was not good. She's not good on stage. She's not believable. I find her condescending.

That's, it's scary to think that she's that close and Biden thought that highly of her after everything that went down between them personally. Speaking of China, I'll tell you a memorable line. I'm gonna go down the middle here. I know you guys are gonna be shocked by me, just calling it like it is. He says, she said, Trump lost the trade war to China.

That was her claim. He says, well Biden never fought it. Yeah, that was big. That was a big line. Okay, respect. That's big. She said, you know, Trump hates, has called the military suckers and losers.

He's blasted John McCain. She said, listen, Penn said, listen, my son is in the Navy, my son-in-law is a Marine. Trump reveres the military, okay? So he's gonna bring it back to his family. Something tells me that even if Trump said those comments, hypothetically, hypothetically, Penns would say, sir, please understand military.

Like I think he would make Trump respect the military, no debt. So, and then the thing that Kamala, where she definitely lost points with me, was she refused to answer the question on stacking. Can you pull that up by the way, stacking a board? She refused to answer the question on that. What do you think about that, though? A non-answer, like, she didn't even answer at all, though.

There was difference between avoiding versus, like, not answering at all. She was basically saying, well you wanna talk about the court? You wanna talk about that in the court? And then she like, she's like, She's like,

She went, she was like, where'd she go on that one, you know? And then she talked about filling the Supreme Court with something else. They both talked about Brianna Taylor and Justice. I thought they both had good responses on that. Can you pause it because we can't hear it, Kai, just so you know.

If you guys want to audio on that, do we hear it? No, no, this is a classic case. If you can't win by the rules, you're going to change the rules. Now, you've refused to answer the question. Joe Biden has refused to answer the question. So I think the American people would really like to know. If Judge Amy Coney Barrett is confirmed with the Supreme Court of the United States, are you and Joe Biden, if somehow

you win this election, going to act the Supreme Court to get your way? I'm so glad we went through a little history lesson. Let's do that a little more. In 18... Abraham Lincoln answered the question. Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking. I'm speaking. I've speaking. I'm speaking.

I've got to call me yours. In 1864, one of the, I think, political heroes, certainly the president. I assume if you also Mr. Vice President is Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln was up for re-election. And it was 27 days before the election. And a seat became open on the United States Supreme Court. Abraham Lincoln's party was in charge, not only the White House, but the Senate.

Can you show the clip of Abraham Lincoln? But on a save. Say in that. Said. Show the interview of Abraham Lincoln on CBS. She thinks we're so stupid. Is there to make the decision? That is so kind of a sentence.

That would be the next president in that state. Watch this. And then that person can select who will serve for a lifetime on the highest court of our own life. I just want to see how. You can tell he's not even listening, he's sweating to respond well. He's American kids with the question.

He's a person who's voting right now. And it should be their decision about who will serve on this most important body for a lifetime. Watch this. Thank you, Senator Harris. Well, Susan, are voting right now, they'd like to know if you and Joe Biden are going to pack the Supreme Court if you don't get your way

in this nomination. Let's talk about that. Thank you. Come on, you. You once again gave a non-answered Joe Biden gave a non-answered answer. You know, the people deserve a straight answer. And if you haven't figured it out yet,

the straight answer is they are going to pack the Supreme Court. If they somehow win this election. No, but you got to show it after that because there is a part right after that. When she says, I will show you, okay, go see if it's the 338 one. There is a huge fundraising deadline coming. Go back. How many minutes was that? Go to the 338 one. Yeah, that one right there. When you speak about the Supreme Court, go to two minutes and 20 seconds. Yeah, right there, right there. Yeah, I'm figured it out yet. The straight answer is they are going to

pack the Supreme Court. If they somehow win this election. Watch this. So then Susan changes the question, but then Kamala gets pissed. Supreme Court, if you cherish the separation of powers, you need to reject the Biden-Harris ticket. Come November the 3rd, reelect President Donald Trump, and we'll stand by that separation powers in a nine-seat Supreme Court. Yeah, let's talk about PAC in the court then. Let's talk about the PAC.

Yeah, I'm about to. I'm about to. You do know it's... So the Trump-P Pants Administration has been, because I sit on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Susan, and I have witnessed the appointments for lifetime appointments. She is very presentable. District Court's intensive appeal. Snobby a little bit. People who are purely ideological, people who have

been reviewed by by legal professional organizations and found to have been not competent are substandard and do you know that of the 50 people wait who President Trump appointed to the court of a I hope they leave the last seven seconds of what he says This is what they've been doing you want to talk about packing a court? Let's have that discussion. Wait, Kai. Oh, they still didn't put it. I mean, it's so the bias because he's cutting it off. But you know what he says right afterwards.

He says, just to get it on record, she never answered the question. Yeah. So which, as someone who picked a tie score here, I will say, I deducted points for that. But not answer the question. It's human reaction. She never wants shook her head. If you will say I deducted points for that. And not answer the question. It's human reaction. She never once shook her head. If you just watched her as he was saying that, if you had no plans of stacking the court,

you'd be like just instinctively, you'd be shaking your head. She didn't do it. Yeah. Pat, a couple topics if we wanna address these, they talked about taxes, right? They talked about 400,000 dollars of you make less than 400,000 dollars. They would only raise it. They would only raise it if you make exactly only unless you make $400,000 or more. Do you believe that?

Do you believe that? Do I believe that? Do you believe that? I think one way or another, one way or another, whether it's happening this year or next year or four years, taxes are going to have to go up in this country. No, no, but on which administration think taxes are going to go up? For sure, the Democrats. Okay. So, But you're asking the threshold, the people making less than 400,000 dollars are going to be affected if they raise a tax, if they say they're not going to raise a taxes on them. You think they're going to be affected?

What do you actually think? I'm actually asking a very serious question. Do I think that? So she says, and Biden says, if you're making less than 400,000 you're not going to be affected Do you think they're going to be affected depends of the change the tax brackets? Is that what you're asking? But they're saying they won't do you believe they're like when Obama said I don't believe when Obama says You can keep your health you like your health engine can keep it. You're not going to pay one new tax etc etc Okay, and then we have the 3.3%, 3.9% ACA tax.

Of course. Okay. Do you know who lies? You know who a liar is? You know who the biggest liar is? Both sides. Every single one of us. But what's that?

Exactly. They all lie. No, but what I'm telling you is Trump said, I'm on a lower taxes and he did. Trump said he's gonna lower taxes and he did. Corporate taxes, right? Of course, when he did, we have one that highest corporate taxes in the world in the US. US has one that highest corporate taxes and he did. Corporate taxes, right? Of course, when he did, we have one the highest corporate taxes in the world in the US. US has one the highest corporate taxes in the world.

He lowered it up from 35 to 20, 20, 20, and some number like that. The day he did it, I give everybody here a hundred dollar bonus per month you've been with me. You didn't get anything, man. You were here that day. I was a three years ago. Should have been here.

I'm here, buddy. Retractively. By the way, if there is again a lower taxes, everybody will get a bonus. Oh my goodness. I do. Yeah. But the point I'm trying to make it up there.

Do you actually think taxes are not going to go up for people making less than 400? Do I think taxes are going to go up? Folks, I want you to get this on the record. He's pulling a Kamala Harris. Listen, let's talk about taxes. Let's talk about taxes. Let's pulling a Kamala Harris. Listen, let's talk about taxes. Let's talk about taxes. Let's have a conversation about taxes.

So as I was saying, are you gonna start? I was gonna start. Read my lips. No new taxes, okay? Anyway, let's talk about the military. Let's talk about the military. Listen, do I think taxes are going up?

Yes. Under Biden. Yes. Okay, so Biden gets taxes are going up? Yes. Under Biden. Yes. Okay, so Biden gets elected. The people making less and 400,000 taxes are still going to go. How low do you want to go though? 100,000 to 100,000 to 100,000 to 100,000?

Do you think the person making 36K is going to be affected? No. 100% they are. You think 100%. 100% they are. So if you're making 36K, you're in a 12% or a 100% tax. You want to tell you why 100% they are? Yeah, yeah, okay

You raise the corporate taxes. What do I have to do? I have to fire five people So right now I got more people working because I can afford it. Mm-hmm. You fire them. How much money? How I take in from value team? Not much. No, not much. The answer is zero It's been a loss every year. The guy that gave us 50 bucks today. We're gonna take that That's going straight back into the car. This is expensive to do all this stuff, right? Zero. What's the point here?

It's not about like, oh my gosh, let me take the money, all this other stuff. I'm building a company. Just let me build a company. I'm gonna hire people. I don't care what it is, I'll hire. If these people get the work done and I do my part, I'm doing my part to build a company.

We create an environment, create a good benefit plan. We match 401k, we give good health insurance. we are in a fun environment to be in, we bring the right talent, right? Okay, if he raises the corporate taxes from 23 to 35, I have to fire 10% of my employees. But that's not what they said. They didn't talk about corporate taxes. But what I'm saying, but they're, but they, but no, no, no, what she did say is day one, all the taxes that Trump gave to his rich friends, we're going to revert back to it. They did say that. Okay, that's exactly what they did say is day one, all the taxes that Trump gave to his rich friends, we're going

to revert back to it. They did say that. Okay. That's exactly what they did. That's two different topics. But it's not two different topics. But it's two different topics. But it's two federal income tax rates.

The corporate tax rate goes up, the $38,000 your person is affected. So I'm good with the lower corporate tax rate. But it's going to go higher. Just so you know, it's going to go higher. I'm'm good with the lower corporate tax rate. Just so we're good on higher. Just so you know, it's gonna go higher. I'm not good with the 35. I think as a business owner, you deserve your job, your job creator. Yeah, what I'm...

You deserve a lower tax rate. Yeah, all I'm saying to you is they're raising it. And when they raise it, yes, they can say, we're not gonna raise taxes on the 38,000 only person. Okay, fine. Let's say you are telling the truth on that, but if you raise the taxes on corporate, they have to fire people.

It's how things work. They have to fire people. I'm with you on this. Yeah, I'm with you on this. That doesn't necessarily mean that the federal income tax rate is gonna go higher or lower. You're just saying the ramifications of a different tax structure as a business owner.

Okay. You'll have to look, you'll have to look. So I got this picture here from a friend. I won't say the name because he probably doesn't want me to mention that he sent me this. He sends me a picture saying, vote to raise taxes on the rich property owners. Then on the bottom, the girl says,

I'm confused why rent was raised. Oh, how come my rents gone from $1,200 a month to $1,400 a month because they raised taxes on the people that own the corporate properties? I'm confused. How come I'm not getting my raise that you guys were giving me because I used to get 40 hours a week. You just turn me part time. What happened here is because administration that wants to raise taxes got me to make

you go part time. I'm confused. How come we're not given the kind to make you go part of it. I'm confused how come we're not given the kind of health insurance we were given before, because I'm confused how come we don't have the 401k benefits we had before, because of corporate taxes are increasing as the highest in the world. US had the highest corporate tax rate.

So what do you mean you're not gonna touch taxes? You're saying. Of course. So I'm gonna ask you a hypothetical question. Biden is Obama's the same tax rate. I'm gonna ask you a question. Yes. Prior to Trump increasing the same tax rate. Yes. Prior to Trump increasing the corporate tax rate.

Yeah. For companies doing okay in America, we're companies figuring it out, we're big companies figuring it out, we're the Apple and Google companies. Which companies? No, no, wait a minute, which companies were figuring it out?

All companies. Big companies were figuring it out. I'm asking you. We're companies figuring it out. Who had the biggest edge? Who had the biggest edge? Big companies, right? Of course they did.

Yeah, of course. Because they have the dollars and they have lobbyists that work to get certain laws and regulations to make it harder to compete with. Not at the same level, small businesses. We're not figuring it out the level as the other guys were. Small businesses let them keep the money and invest back into the business. Listen, do you know the whole concept about rich people buy roles, roises, and forrries and all this other stuff? All they do is waste their money.

Do you know the cyclical cycle of how money works? What do you tax me 5%, 1%, 0%, 20%, the money's going back into the economy? Do you ever unpack that message? What I just said, right? Okay. Let's just say you, you have this, because the worry is the rich guy is going to spend the money to do what? Buy 500,000 out of watches and yachts and boats

and all this other stuff, right? I'm gonna buy another vacation home and I'm gonna buy this all this. Let's just say the guy has a lot filled with lambdas, foraris, porches, all the other stuff. Put all the crazy cars he's got. He's the qualified rich guy that they talk about, okay? When you buy the Lambo, who creates the Lambo?

The workers. Okay, who's getting paid for doing the work? When you buy the Lambo, who creates the Lambo? The workers. Okay, who's getting paid for doing the work? When you buy the Lambo, who does the oil change? When the tire gets broke, when 12 of my Rolls Royce tires were torn within a span of 12 months, each of those tires were 8.50. Who do you think made money? The tire company, who make made money?

The guy that put the tires on, who else is making made money? The guy that had to come and told me, from, I have to spend money, it does, the money always goes back into the economy. I'm saying that's a trickle down economy. Even if the money stays in mutual funds, say I take the money and I say, you know what I'm gonna do?

I'm gonna put all this money into the stocks. I'm gonna put in the mutual funds. That money's being reinvested into a job and to some, money's flowing constantly. This concept of money is scaring the hell out of people that we got to hire taxes, you know, raise taxes on rich people. What are you talking about? Somebody needs to take a basic math class. What do you mean if I raise the taxes? We have the highest corporate tax rate to say that we're gonna revert back to what it was day before

Day before what he called it Trump great go ahead and do that But you cannot say the people under 400,000 all of your income are not going to be affected. Like this, they're going to be affected. You know what the bottom line is? And this is the truth. People's hatred of Trump has precluded them the ability to think straight. I mean, the hatred for him supersedes anything.

You can't make a rash decision in this election because the number one thing, I mean, if people were to look at this objectively and see, like you, it's, your life's going to change. Your taxes are going to go up the whole thing. But I think it's the, the, the hatred of Trump is so powerful that people can't make a rash decision. He brought it on to himself, though.

I mean, you got, you got to realize that part of it as well, you know, when you go out like that, this is, this is how I see it. He came out to Gates and the way he got all the attention is by saying what? The people are crossing the border and they're right-pissed. They're right-pissed. You just say all of them.

He's a some of them are decent, but they're good. Okay, guess what he did. His campaign was, let me shock factor. That was his campaign, let's just face it. The way he went from being, no one on day one saw as a top 15 guy. They saw as a number 16 guy He said I'm gonna get the media on the news and every day CNN bash them MSNBC bash them MSNBC

They had them on everything do you remember back in the days when CNN and MSNBC had them on every day every day They had them all Hey, Trump every day every cuz he got all of a sudden they're like dude. We're giving this guy too much So we have to give him credit for his strategy worked It worked, but the other side is your strategy also pissed a lot of people off, which you can have a lot of enemies. That's your game you played. You can't, like the Detroit Pistons cannot be ticked off that people hate them.

Dude, that's Chuck Daly's strategy. But you have to evolve a little bit too, because he's not the unknown anymore. So he's bringing on some of these bullets to him right now. Yeah, but by the way, the pistons won multiple championships. Like I'm not telling you that strategy. The Philadelphia Flyers of the 1972, I don't know if you know the story, the 1972 Phillies. These guys went and they played.

The Philadelphia Flyers went and played against Russians, the Olympian champions, Hockey team. They faced them after this was a freaking, what you call it when those friends match or not a front It's a friendly match, but they call us something else not a submission exhibition game Do you know what happened after the first period kicked shit out of them? Dude the Russians weren't coming out of the freaking they weren't coming out of the locker room Yeah, the freaking primate the goal bunch of had to call them and say what the hell you guys are doing? Get the hell out of there. You're not gonna show Russians for us to be scared to get because the Philadelphia Flares were whooping their asses.

Single-handedly kicking their ass, punching them, hitting them, literally killing the shit out of them. We're gonna show you how it's for the world. That's how you have to be on that. That's true, that's true. So you know what happened? You know what happened the next year from 1972 to 1974? The NXS was afraid of them.

The hockey robot went from this big to this big because of the Flyers it should it should what I'm trying to say on skates if you're Chuck daily and you want your pistons to play the way They do mm-hmm if you're the Philadelphia flies you want your players to play they do if you're Trump you're gonna get some I'm sorry you the most hated because that approach is you're punking everybody But it's the game he wants to play that's totally fine. What I'm trying to do to the voter. Here's what I'm trying to do to the voter. Okay, go to Bush, okay, for example. Go to Clinton.

When Clinton did this stuff with Monica Lewinsky, oh my gosh, she should be telling me what's happening. I don't sit there and watch the president and say, I'm gonna live my life based on your values. I'm gonna live my life based on my values. I'm gonna live my life based on my values. Monica Lewinsky, what she did? Look, more power to you. It is what it is.

I don't know what it is to be married to Hillary. I have no clue what it is to be married to Hillary. I'm gonna assume it's not fun, okay? I'm gonna assume it's not fun. So, she pushed all that other stuff. I don't know the story. Here's what I will tell you. When people were bashing Bill Clinton, you know what I said?

I said, dude, why don't you go try to get Newt Gingrich on the other side to sit there and negotiate and get our national debt to be where it's at. I don't really care if there's a monocle of whiskey. Yeah. Because I don't know how Hillary is as a wife. You ever met a man married to a miserable woman? It sucks. You ever met a woman married to a miserable guy? It sucks. It's absolutely horrible. So I don't know what it is to be married to Hillary, but I do know his policies worked during that time. So when he go to Bush, and go, oh, a bush, bush, there's some bush, bush is evil.

I don't know, bush comes across as a very, you know, bush senior, brilliant guy. I can't sit there and look at bush senior. That guy concerns me a little bit, but his son seems like a good guy to me. Yeah, clear, cool guy. You know what, I was drinking whiskey my entire life. And one day I couldn't remember what happened tonight before.

And I told my wife, there's a last time I went and took all the bottles of whiskey. And I trashed him and that day I changed my life. And boom, he becomes a president, right? You know what? I liked that. I made some bad decisions. When we had him on, I was interviewing him. I made some bad choices in my life.

Well, I made a lot of bad choices in my life. But one day I decided to change. You know what, cool. Respect. When you go lot of bad choices in my life, but one guy decided to change. You know what, cool. Respect. When you go to Obama and people say, oh, but he's such a great speaker. I'm like, dude, he is. I just don't like his policies.

You gotta be careful with his policies. Trump is such an asshole, but his policies for economy. I am not about, like for example, when they're talking about abortion, when they talk about abortion yesterday, and the topics came up about, like for example, when they're talking about abortion, when you talk about abortion yesterday, and the topics came up about, you know, rovers is weighed. What's going to happen there? Because that's the biggest concern. What are you going to do? One, the questions was, what are you going to do? If they go out there and do this, what is the state of California going to do? And how are you going to handle in your state? Because that's the whole thing

with, you know, wanting to tax abortions, have taxpayers pay for the abortion, that's what the pens talked about. Okay, pro-life pro-choice, 41% of Americans are Christians. Most of them are what? Pro-life, 59% of Americans are non-Christians, some of them are Catholic, some of them are, you know, say other denominations, some of them are pro-life, some of them are pro-choice. What does it come down to?

At what point, the definition of life, then you have to figure that part out, but that's a debate between science faith that they need to have together and come out with a timeline, right? But that's a social issue, gay marriage, all this other stuff. Gay marriage, you wanna get married to a guy, dude,

I went to a gay club for two years, my best friends were all gay in the army. They were all gay in the army. Oh, bro They were freaking so many. How many you you were in the Marines? How many guys that just you like you know some of these guys were freaking In the army no when I said in the army when I'm in a Ford camel can't talk. Yeah, dude We had I can't say the names. We had a number of guys at our unit. Oh, okay. Scotty. Bob, you built.

I'm going to be a truck. Dude, you know how it happened? One day we went to a club. We went to a club in Tennessee, call connections. You went to this club, we'd go to every weekend. It was Studio 54. Exactly. If you've seen a movie Studio 54.

Dude, these are some of the coolest cats. Were they married? I mean, were they. But it was one thing you made it clear, you're like, dude, these are some of the coolest cats. Were they married? I mean, were they? But it was one thing you made it clear. It's like, listen man, here's, I like women. Just don't put your stuff on my face. I'm gonna put my stuff in your face. Literally.

I said that. I said, we're gonna get along. You do what you got to, don't do what I gotta do. Just respect me. Do we pay what's up? How you doing? A, what's up? Greek God, all of a sudden, nickname because back then,

you know, I had a, because you're a Greek God, babe. I was a Greek God. I had a good time for this to be a runner-rate. It was a different run-rate. But the point I'm trying to make to you is, those are social issues. I don't go to social issues. The challenge with the selection is

the emotional people are gonna vote emotionally. And that's a recognition on the amount of hatred they're driving on Trump's personality and how he is. But they're not going to the policies. If you vote emotionally, you will be controlled emotionally. If you vote logically and you look at policies, you are going to be affected by the task. I get the Democrats feel that fire and they're going to swoop in and that's what that's really.

Let me say something, actually, just to kind of build upon Tom's point and build upon your point, Tom made a point that some people... I'm sorry, Gay marines still sounds funny. Eric was almost offended. He's like, Eric's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I actually agree with, he said, some people hate Trump so much that they can't see past their hatred from him. And you said, that's how he started his campaign. Mexicans are rapists, there's good people on both sides. So what I'll tell you is this,

I have the ability to understand why people hate Trump so much, but I also have the ability to say, you know what, I agree with that. Okay, so as an example, people hate Trump so much. From day one, they said, I do not like this person, there's no way I would advocate for this person, there's a way I would vote for this person, I hate this person straight up, and just like this person.

I don't like to use the word hate, they dislike this person, but they hate it. So then when Trump does stuff like moves the Israel embassy to Jerusalem, I'm like, that's great. Good for you. When he makes peace in the Middle East with the UAE in Bahrain, this is peace in the Middle East. What are we talking about here?

How do you disagree with that? But people, and this is, like you said, Trump's fault. People don't just reverse hate easily. If they say, look, I don't like this person four years ago, they're not just gonna magically say, well, I'm coming around on them. They're fixed in. Just like people four years ago, if they love Trump gonna magically say, well, I'm coming around on them, they're fixed in. Just like people four years ago, if they love Trump,

and he's the best in Magon, I ain't, they're not switching from that. So, well, they're gonna pay a big price because it's gonna, I mean, it's not just hating Trump. There's another side that wants to literally change the country and how this country is, how it is going forward, and he's creating the opportunity with that personality that people hate.

And when people say this is the biggest and most important election, that is not hyperbole. I mean, that is, what's happening here in less than a month is really a big deal. I got a friend of mine that called me yesterday, who is involved in some charities, some politics, it was in DC for many years, so he's very directly connected with a lot of the stuff that's happening. He's in his early 70s, late 60s, pretty connected politically.

He said, I've never been this scared about the future of America as I am today. As I tell me why. He said, look, say Trump gets re-elected. He says, forget about it, let's just say Trump does get re-elected. It's okay. He said, what, say Trump gets re-elected. He says, forget about it. Let's just say Trump does get re-elected. It's OK. He said, what happens after four years?

You know, what happens after four years? Eventually, somebody on AOC and Bernie's side is going to get elected. That's the direction we're going. He said, whether it's in four years, it's in eight years, it's in 12 years, it's in 16 years, it's in 20 years, it's in 24 years, it's in 12 years, it's in 16 years, it's in 20 years, it's in 24 years, it's in 28 years. It is going to happen.

And when that happens, what happens next? Actually think about that. So imagine today AOC is 47. By the way, AOC yesterday say fracking is bad. She tweeted it out. So she was totally like going up against. She scolded it, come on. Kamala Harris, what do you mean?

Defend it because they don't want to understand. Left is being pulled to the far left. And somebody on even on the DNC side, Kamala Harris. Like what do you mean, defend? Because they don't want to understand left is being pulled to the far left. And somebody on even on the DNC side, Kamala is the most left leader, political leader we have today, even further left than Bernie is what they call Kamala. But anyways, what happens if an AOC gets elected? She's 47.

You got it. You're a dummy. If you don't like a AOC, I'm fine with that. If you hate or policies, I'm fine with that. but you're naive and a fool if you don't think she has a Korean politics you're absolutely naive and a fool if you don't think she's got a Korean policy. Are you talking about Kamala? AOC is a super star for Democrats and Socialists, super star for Democrats and show you don't find people like that that just come around that they're that good at playing the game

So it's attractive. So she's 47 imagine. She's 47. No, no, I'm saying when she's 47. I know she's 30 15 years from yeah I'm talking she's 15 years from now 20 years. I'm just 45 or 50 years old. Okay, I didn't realize she was that young She's a baby exactly so imagine she's a waitress for years. I understand Starbucks. Yeah, imagine she's 45 50 years old and She runs okay and at that point right now I understand Starbucks. Yeah, imagine she's 45, 50 years old, and she runs. Okay. And at that point, right now she's got 8 million followers on Twitter. At that point she's got 50 million followers,

100 million followers. She's a rock type of a person, massive following. She runs. She gets elected. Do you know what happens to the idea of America? Poof, it's gone. Because always remember this, it's a lot easier to go from capitalism to socialism It's not like, you know, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,

you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,

you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,

you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like go to a different father that's like, wake up, what are you doing? Like imagine you're raising a millionaire's house and your dad's a millionaire. He's got all the money in the world and you're sleeping and kicking back. Everybody loves you. Nobody holds you accountable. Everything's chill.

Mom, you don't talk to me like that. You don't talk to me like that. You know I'm going to call the cops on you, mom. You know those kids, right? Those brats. Say the father dies and a father didn't do the right things with the finances. Now he's broke. Now she's broke, he's dead.

She has no money to herself. He had no life insurance. All these losses, taxes she's got to pay. She goes, lives in an apartment. She ends up marrying a former Marine, okay? Who wakes up in the morning, discipline all this other stuff. That kid, the new step that says, what are you doing, John? I'm sorry, make your bed.

I don't make my bed, my daddy didn't make me do, you don't, oh, I'm paying the bills, buddy. You make your bed, give me your phone, give me this. I hate you. Okay, I hate you, what you doing? I was told like this, mom, he sucks. Right, that impersonation, right? So watch this here, watch this.

Eric can develop it. Now flip it. Flip it. Okay. Kid has got a dad like Eric. A Marine. Stutt. Stutt.

Hey, kid, wake up. Clean yourself out of the way. When he does meetings, I always watch his stuff. What things he says. You can tell a military guy. You clean after yourself. What do we do have to finish the food? What do you say to your mom? What do you say to your mom?

What do you say to this? Who washes the dishes? What happened with the shoes? Why don't you put them over there? Did you make your bed? So at first kids I'd do it. Eric tells me that every morning, I'm like, I'll make my bed.

What I'm trying to tell you is this kid doesn't know better, all he knows is, that's what he's raised around. Then all of a sudden that father dies, okay? Then another father shows up, the step down. Ah, don't worry about the plate, man, it's okay, sometimes I don't like to do the plate myself as well.

Don't worry about the bad dude, it's all good, man. Ah, but you should use wherever you want. Dude, I throw all my socks there, it's okay, Mary's gonna, your mom's gonna get it. It's easier to go from high standards to low standards and to go from low standards to high standards. If we make the flip to eventually an AOC of it, and I'm not worried about today, I really

am not worried about today, but I am worried about 24 years from it because eventually someone like her is going to get elected. I am telling you right now, the idea of America is gone, you're going to need a second option as a country. And my only concern is, what is the other country left that offers the free enterprise, the freedom of speech, the freedom of speech, the freedom of press, the freedom of all of this other stuff that America's idea was founded on?

What's another country that has that? What is option number two? Because eventually, the way we're giving so much of the platform, 95% of media control by the left, socialist ideas are being pushed down, our kids throw it right now, rich people are bad, being told by teachers in school, eventually this is gonna work on the side of them.

Someone is gonna get elected. So today, not a big deal, four years from now, I think the rights got a good bench with what you call it, Penn, so what you call a cruise or Rubio, or even some of these Charlie Kirk's coming up or Candace Owens coming up, Shapiro's coming up. These are all good people that is,

the bench is getting deeper on the right, that at least believe in those freedoms, but the bench on the left is very deep as well right now. Very, very. But here's the problem, they're not, they want, they're not gonna waste this opportunity if they do get in. So I am worried about right now,

almost as much as I am about 20 years from now. Yeah, no, I get you, but my worry is, so for example, my concern is this, when you're in your 20s, you can eat pizza and get away with it. Remember when you're in your 20s? Like, for example, he can eat 15 pizzas. Nothing will happen to his belly next day. He's gonna go to the bathroom 50 times, okay? And the next day, he still looks skinny, right? In your 30s, what goes? You can eat like that because your belly pops out a little bit. You go, ooh, salad and salmon, please.

Okay, it's what I love about. In your 30s, you start saying salad. Now, when the hell did you ever say salad? I have salad, put the dressing on the side, and please take the croutons off, and I'd like to say that. This is what Tom does every time you order. You're certain kind of a, this is Tom.

Yeah, exactly. You're quoting Tom. And Tom does like, Tom does right time you're quoting him. And it's like, Shana's right, the whole thing is accountable. She was holding all of us accountable, though. Try some of this bond. What was the bread at that one political? Oh, it's a bread house, yeah, it's a bread house.

It was so ridiculous. And they put like eight in front. Dude, it was so delicious. So Shana's like, you gotta try this. But then in your 40s, what happened in your 40s, Adam? What goes in your 40s? You're gut, bro. You're metabolism. That's 30s. 40s is flexibility.

40s is I haven't gotten that yet. I go to the gym. What do you mean, the reason why you don't have it is because you're always stretching. I'm always stretching. Every time I see your stretch, by the way, you lost the audio of Adam, right? He's stretching, okay?

So, in the 50s, what happens? Other things go in your 50s, right? Maybe 50s, you need to go visit somebody on the Cialis and the Viagra side, you know? You're like, hey, Doc, this thing is, gravity's working against me many different ways and I can't do anything about it, right? What's the point here?

Here's a point. Today, regardless of what you do, my interest is long term solution. I don't like band-aids. We are having band-aids today. You know why I like Texas? What did he say? It's in our Constitution.

Constitution that we will never have state taxes. Constitution. That's permanent. It gives me a lot of trust. Florida has that as well, by the way. But America is getting to a point right now. We're out of no. We're about to go into some weird, weird stuff with taxes.

So if we had in the Constitution, federal taxes will never be above 30%. Federal taxes will never be above 25%. In the Constitution, like it'll never, ever be above that. That gives somebody like me confidence to know I can go out there and do what I'm doing. But today it's a little bit scary because I wouldn't be surprised if taxes go to 60 or 70% over the next 10 or 20. Well they've been high before. Like when Reagan was an actor, the story about Reagan when he was an actor in Hollywood.

Yes. Tax rate was freaking 90%. Yes, but I don't think, I don't know if people know that. The tax rate in America. Above a million. Above a million, it was 90%. It was on for everybody. Yeah, yeah.

Marginal tax rates, right? Yeah. Like there was 90%. What people are like, what are you talking about? How tax rates that high? Look at tax rates over the last 100 years. Only since basically the 1970s, I want to say, 1960s have tax rates been this low.

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By the way, while those whole thing is taking place, this morning, Trump goes on Maria Bartoroma, okay? And they announce right before that, he gets a message saying that, if you have it, Kai, let's show it, he gets the message saying that they are thinking about, they are moving the second debate to a virtual debate. If you haven't heard this yet,

by the way, this just happened this morning. They just announced that they're moving into virtual debate, and this is what Trump had to say about the debate. You gotta hear this. At the second debate, we have a never-trumper as a host, but that's okay because I'd beat him in the second debate also. And, but I'm going to do a virtual debate

so you're not so mr president you're not going to do it because the cpd the commission on presidential debates announcing this morning uh... that the second presidential debate will be virtual you say you're not going to participate now i'm not going to waste my time on a virtual debate that's not what the bathing all about you sit behind a computer and do a debate ridiculous. And then they cut you off whenever they want. I have a host too.

I always thought it was a nice guy, but I see he's an ever-trumper. You know, it doesn't sound good in every trumpet. He does voice sound. I was bad. He still has COVID, he's going to win. And so, but I'm not doing a virtual debate. They didn't even tell us about this

so you just learned this this morning you know we learned it the same way you learned it they called up uh... two minutes ago and uh... it was announced and they've been trying to protect by and everybody is they tried like that nbc disaster where he went on to show it lester halt it was like it was meant for a child wasn't meant for a grown person uh... he gets up and he says we're not fracking we're not fracking he was fracking for six months he was fracking he was raising his

his very thin hand and it was fracking and then all of a sudden he's not fracking will tell the pencilvania people that you're going and it's ridiculous he said he's not fracking. We'll tell the Pennsylvania people that you're going, it's ridiculous. He said, he's not fracking. That's all he said. And then all of a sudden he goes to a fracking mode. And how about her? She committed her life to it.

And all of a sudden she's a fracker. She's a big fracker. They're going to stop fracking the minute they get into office. They're lying to everybody. They're lying about so many different things. But you have to confront them. You can't do it.

I want to talk to you about that. I want to talk to you about that. I want to talk to you about what you heard last night. But Mr. President, you say you're not going to do this debate. Address the criticism, Mr. President. The criticism that you removed your mask for a photo op. You got to the top of the steps you removed it. People are worried about your recent diagnosis.

Now you've got 30 plus people with coronavirus in and around the White House. Address that concern for us, Mr. President. As you tell, the Commission on Debates, you're not gonna do this virtually. You know, first of all, I think I'm better. When to a point where I'd love to do a rally tonight, I wanted to do one last night.

But I think I'm better to a point that I feel better than I did Yeah, you know jokingly said 20 years ago. I feel perfect. I feel perfect Wrong would you admit his voice is not sound I just agree I think he sounds fine We think he sounds fine. He's getting the quips in there if he was sick He wouldn't be able to talk about what he's saying Because his voice sounds scratchy of what I went through what i had a you know i felt pretty lousy a lot of people did a lot of people do you don't know matter how good the security that you're not going to protect

yourself from this thing just your standard anything unless you just literally you don't come out and even those people found out did you see a new york city the most heavily locked out place to people that go out at the most where the people that were going in their houses and their apartments, okay? Okay, so, virtual debate.

He says, no, I'm not gonna do it. I have different opinions. You heard what I said right before when we started podcasts. What do you think is gonna happen with the virtual debate? They're gonna force it. They're gonna force the virtual debate

to happen because he did test positive for COVID-19. He's not gonna do it. He has nothing to gain by doing a virtual debate. Here's what he will do. He will go to Miami next Thursday and he will have one big rally. I mean, it'll be huge. He's gonna do something, but I don't think he's gonna do this virtual debate and how stupid. I mean, they are trying to pull this, you know, they're trying to, they're trying to grease the skids now for Biden completely. They've already got the moderator they want for this second one who used to be his intern and now turning it into a virtual debate. What, if he tests negative, you know, for X amount of days, why can't they do it in person? There's no reason this thing couldn't happen if the doctor said so. If he tests negative, let's see some tests. The dude just had COVID.

That's not a fake news, he had COVID. He may still have COVID, right? It's not within the 14 day quarantine window whatever the ramifications are. He's been obviously been on drugs, steroids, whatever he got airlifted to Walter Reed Hospital. Is there a chance he still has COVID? That's a question.

I mean, he can't test if he's negative. If he's negative, should they do the debate like together? If there is negative, then you should do the frickin' debate. That's what Biden said, it's all right. But this is the question I'm asking you. Is the debate gonna happen live or virtual? I hope it happens live. Okay, so right now it's virtual. It's Trump gonna show up to the virtual debate.

One thing I'll tell you about Trump, as much as I'm not a fan, the dude's a fighter. Kai. He's a warrior. He's gonna show up. He's gonna show up or not. I think he'll be there ready to go. If there's a virtual debate and yeah, he'll do it. He'll change, he'll say yes.

Luis. I believe he wouldn't want to do it, but the party's gonna make him do it. Yeah, participate. I think he's gonna wanna win. Yeah me. And put that event. Okay.

I'm here. I think that I'm here. to money on me. And put that event. OK. I'm here. You're with him? Kai. I mean, I think he's going to do a debate. I mean, he has to. Yeah. So by the way, here's a thing with Trump.

How many times does Trump said, nope, I'm not doing it. And the next thing he changes mine. I mean, just did that with stimulus. That's exactly the point. And he's going to do it again. Because look, there's nothing he can do about it. He has to do the debate. He has to show up and do the debate. So his camp, he's gonna realize because say he doesn't

show up to the virtual debate. Guess what the other camp's gonna say? Very easy opening. They want him to say I'm not gonna show up to the debate because you know what everyone's gonna say. He's afraid. He's afraid. And there's something we don't know. Are you sure? What are they not telling us? Oh? I can only already imagine all the signs are going to headlight this world. Yeah. So he's Trump. So something that is hiding in his basement.

And insider. And insider said this is big and in COVID. He's dealing with something live tweeter. Yeah, during the video. But what I'm trying to say to you is he knows he has to show up. Yeah. Of course he's annoyed. But he knows he has to show up.

And here's the thing. This is what I would say if I was his camp. I would say, look, just show up. Of course he's a know it, but he knows he has to show up. And here's the thing, this is what I would say if I was his camp. I would say, look, just show up with one caveat. What's that? That the last debate, 100% has to be live, no question. So do you agree that the last debate's gonna be live? They say, yes, fine. I'll show you.

I have a debate. It's that commission, that debate commission that sets all the rules. I mean, they don't get advice from anybody. That was he didn't even know about it today. Yeah, so I don't think anybody has any control over that commission. Yeah, well, we see what's going on. This is the problem for all my Trump friends out there, respect. This is the problem with agreeing with everything Donald Trump says because the second you

agree with him, boom, he changes course just like that. He's just like he did with stimulus. So everyone who just, anything he says I agree with, buddy, he's going to flip it on you on a script in a second, okay? Just like stimulus. It's not happening, forget it, no negotiations are off, stock market tanks. All right, maybe we'll bring it back, hold on, let's see what's going on here. Talk about the stimulus. Very unpredictable. Talk about stimulus. So he says it's not going to, I don't support it. And we're not going to do it until I get elected.

The economy, the market drops, right? Then the next thing he says, he's considering it. What happens? The market goes at 1.9, the Dow Jones goes at 1.9%. Yeah. 530 points, SMP gained 58, et cetera, et cetera. And then, day after, Democratic led House panel, argues Congress, should break up the largest tech companies on anti-trust corrupt,

President Trump's full tweets, when he went, what, 20 tweets before 8 a.m. something like that, he was sending a bunch of tweets. So, the stimulus, here's a basic thing about, what do you mean you're not gonna do the stimulus? Here's how it works if he says, I'm not gonna do the stimulus until after I get elected.

You know what happens? He's not gonna get elected because there's one card he has to be able to keep the next 30 days if he's gonna get elected. You know what happens? He's not going to get elected because there's one card he has to be able to keep the next 30 days if he's going to get elected. You know what that is? Economy. Economy. If he passes the stimulus, people get money, you know what people don't like? They don't like change. People don't like change. How did Bush get elected? They reelected the second time. Even the people that couldn't stand him. He still got reelected. Even the people that couldn't stand Obama, he still got reelected. Even the people that couldn't stand out Clinton, still got reelected. Even a people that couldn't stand Clinton,

he still got elected. You gotta realize the last four presidents have all been to termed. The last time we had a one term president was Bush senior. So I think this stimulus is probably gonna be coming up here very soon, the $1,200. I am, if I am sent a standalone bill for $1,200, they will go out to our great people immediately.

I'm ready to sign right now, Trump tweeted on Tuesday night. Well, I give him credit. He's as adamant about flipping and his enthusiasm for paying the money now that it was for not being in favor of it on Monday. But write the checks then, if that's what it takes. I tell you, but I tell you what the press is. You know what the bigger story is? Here's what the bigger story is.

Here's what the bigger story is? Here's what the bigger story is. Here's what the bigger story is. The bigger story is yesterday, Kamala Harris used the scariest word that I hate to hear. Scares a hell out of me when I hear it in debates. You know what it is? If your family makes less than 125,000, I see you're gonna get a community college for free on the state. If you have any student loan,

what Joe Biden did, it's he's gonna take 10,000 dollars off them. I was gonna bring that up. Okay, so then free, free, free, right? Okay, you know what Trump is endorsing? He's endorsing all free money. So this AOC thing, guess what AOC is gonna say? Look at this, here's how capitalists are.

Number one, capitalism, they want capitalism for other socialism for themselves, but guess what she's going to say now? These capitalists are secretly socialist. All they care about is money, and she's right. Because this is a socialistic program to come out with things like this. So long-term, you know who loses? He's going to pass a stimulus bet.

Long-term, do you know who loses? The capitalists lose long-term. Because now they have to do this or else. I don't think so. Okay, I think this is a desperate attempt in the final days to do what you have to do to win. He can flip the script if he gets reelected and it's not his policy anymore. It's a socialistic program back to back. It's another way of saying, hey, I'll give you money if you vote for me.

It is a Robinhood message. I think it's like throwing a Hail Mary in a football game. I know you do something you normally want to do. I don't disagree with you. Hail Mary in a football game. I do what's different with you. Dude, I don't disagree with you. I'm fully with you. But I'm telling you right now, the same thing there is, the fact that you yourself are endorsing a socialist, not you.

You yourself are endorsing a socialist program. So I'm just telling you, gradually, gradually when somebody pushes, you know the whole thing about, you put a frog in it, you've heard this before, you've put a frog in a Bowl and you boil a water and if you boil it slowly

It won't know that it's getting to two hundred and twelve degrees before it dies as opposed to dropping it in the hot water It'll jump out immediately, right? You know, I'm cool with him doing whatever it takes right now in the final 26 days I'll tell you what I mean chairman of the Fed drone pal out and said, we need another round of stimulus straight up. Yeah. He's came out and said that. That same day, Trump said, no more stimulus. Uh, Trump has one thing going for him. One thing.

His ace in the hole is if the economy is doing well, he has a chance for re-election. If everything stays the same, my friends, we're going to be looking at a new president in 2020, okay? He, I don't know why Democrats would at this point in the game send out more stimulus checks. Why wouldn't they just wait another month till after the election here? He should pray that he cuts a deal in the next month

to send checks to people, to curry favor for a vote. He should want that. The fact that he says no more more checks, doesn't help him. That's why someone probably said, dude, what are you doing? Flipkourt and the next day, boom, changes course. So he's a very rational, very erratic and he came out and I think very emotional and wasn't like in the way the direction

that stimulus was headed. He's been like that since 2016. So for me, when you are the way you are and you consistently are the way you are, I'm not surprised, I'm not surprised. No, I don't think anyone was surprised. Nobody's shocked that he reversed course. But a part of his ability, this is the part that people don't realize about his ability. He's all about being unpredictable.

He's all about being unpredictable. He's not about being predictable. He's all about being unpredictable. And that's been his play. And I tell you, part of that being unpredictable, I want you to be unpredictable towards the enemy. I don't mind that if you're unpredictable. I'm sorry with you on that. I'm good if you're unpredictable with China. I'm good if you're unpredictable. Well, no, you're not unpredictable.

Not if you're unpredictable. Not if you're unpredictable. Yeah, I support China. Because if you support Biden, you support China. That's not true at all. That's not true. Wait, that's not true. I'm just not a fan of being unpredictable to the air.

But wait a minute, go on that topic. Okay, so here's a question for you. Don't try to put me up. No, but here's not true. Wait, it's not true. I'm just not a fan of being unpredictable to the internet. Wait a minute. Go on that topic. Okay, so here's a question for you. Don't try to put me up. No, but here's a fan. Here's a question. I'm not a fan of China. Here's a question for you.

Here's a question for you. Go ahead. You ready? Okay. Give me your top five main concerns. What are your top five main concerns right now? You have a life when it comes onto politics. What is it?

My personal concerns. Like with this election, what are your five policies? Talked about policy, not emotions, not personality policies. I would say first and foremost is the economy. What's going on, jobs, unemployment. Stay there, but let's go to go this together. So let's actually do this together.

We're gonna have fun right now together. You guys should have been in the boardroom, you guys said about economies number one. What's your number two? What the hell's going on with COVID, what stimulus, what stuff like that? Be specific. More COVID like vaccine? Everything's surrounding COVID.

But it's different. Okay, so stimulus checks, what's happening with that? Why is that a priority to you? Why is that a priority to you? For my fellow Americans, people are really hurt now. Fellow Americans, okay. People are hurt. I'm good. Let me just be clear. If Trump selected or Biden selected, Adam's Americans. Okay. People are hurt. I'm good.

Let me just be clear. If Trump's elected or Biden's elected, Adam's good. I know you are. What I'm asking you is, you're a reasonable guy. Yes, I tend to think so. And you're a pretty smart guy. Yes, fairly. And 90% category is where you are.

Yes, yes or no. I mean, the minus people. What I'm trying to say is you've always done, you did good as well. You were in the guy that played ball that had a 2.0. No. You had a 3.5 GPA yeah you're smart guy I know you say I don't like to do politics you're actually very good very well like I like the party on the weekends but I like the good school like the play sports I was

more I know who you are yours well around I talked to you all the time you're actually very smart guy Adams a very very smart guy know some of you guys are putting all the soul boy stuff Adams a very very mafia thank you I'm embracing it what is your sincere what's your concern right now about the I know some of you guys are putting all this soy boy stuff. Adam's a very, very, much, So I'm off you. Thank you. But embracing it. What is your sincere? What's your concern right now about the future? Stimulus is a concern for you for a few years.

I'm for my fellow Americans. There's a lot of people unemployed. Okay. So there's a lot of industries that are hurting. Fine. Give me another one. Okay. China is very high in that list.

Where do you put it on the list? Is it in your top three, top five, top 10? Number three. I just put it number three. What's number four? For me, race relations in this country, like let's stop burning down, let's stop the writing, let's stop the looting, let's stop the divisiveness.

But that's on one side politically. So you do both sides, it's very divisive. Not the right, not the pro, not the right. You're so knowing on the right, there's no one on the far right. There's no one on the KKK side, there's no one on the far right, there's no one on the KKK side, there's no one on the white nationalist side, there's writing and looting, looting like businesses burning down business.

That's on the left, that's on the left. But there's nobody on the right. So you want the left to stop writing. I would like better race relations in our country. That's not gonna happen. Why would that not happen? Because the more divided we are, the better it is for politics.

You think we're better for politics if we're united? Like you have got to be united. When you're better for politics, don't you? Are you, they're better off pinning you against other people constantly. I don't want that. You're not gonna do world peace. Is that an excuse?

That is Trump's go-to card. Not pinning the, pinning black versus white. But every single time somebody tried to do something with Obama, it was a race card. It was because heverse white but every single time somebody tried to do something with with Obama it was a race card it was because he's black every single time somebody said some you can say anything every time you oppose a view that Obama had your racist this has been going on for 12 years every single time somebody said something you must be racist so this is not

going away but give me your next issues but I but but I put that on the list as well black lives matter matters to you. We'll put that here. I didn't say that, that's what I'm saying race relations in this country. Which is BLM, I don't know, I wouldn't say BL, I would just say, people,

I would say, I would say, listen, I have some best friends that are Republican. What else? I have best friends that are Democrats. I just want people to get along. I want people to listen to each other and respect each other's opinion.

I've seen you behind closers, you actually really want that. I do. I know you do. So I'm giving it to you, other and respect each other's opinion. I've seen you behind closures. You actually really want that I do I do I know you do so I'm giving it to you. I'm saying I know you do so. What's your fifth one? I mean number four is probably I would put that actually even higher so economy stimulus China obviously our situation with that Yeah, I don't know. It says four of them. Okay. That's fine if you can't come up with another one Let's just say it's the of them. Okay. If you can't come up with another one, let's just say it's the four. I mean, the Supreme Court is pretty high. Second amendment is pretty high.

It's Supreme Court down high to you. If it is, I'll put it now. It's not. I'm just saying it's high up on my list. It's not the top four. Let's just stay here then. Okay. It's a part of economy having to do with taxes.

Yes, it is. Are you wanting corporate taxes to go up or to stay where it's at right now? I like corporate taxes to stay where it is. Well, just so you know, one side is going to raise it, one side is not. So Biden, so does Trump get the vote for you on the economy side or Biden does? On taxes? On taxes.

I would go on the right side, yes. Okay, if there was no COVID, you think Dow Jones today would have been at 35,000? Potentially, yeah. Okay. It was trending that direction. If there was no COVID, first time ever, median income has hit $63,000. We haven't seen that for 25 years on both sides of the administration. This is the first time it's happened.

So are you going to put economy tax? So one thing Trump has gone for him is the economy in tax. So you're going to put Trump in that. Okay. Giving him that. So stimulus. He's pulled a stimulus once and he's about to do it again. So if he does it is.

Is he though? He just said he's not. If he does, does he get your vote? If he does in this topic, specifically to stimulus. I think the Democrats care more about people getting stimulus, more about checks he being mailed out. I think they, they, they, they, I think it's because they care more. It's because they're going to be able to control an audience

because they give it. I think they're looking to buy votes. Okay. So then who, who, which side are you going to give? Can, can we say this one is lost because they're both full of it. I think they're looking to buy votes. Okay. So then who, which side are you gonna give, Krike? Can we say this one is lost because they're both full of it? I think they're both. I think they're all just. No, on this category, I think both.

I don't want the federal deficit, the debt to go up higher. That's for sure. But they're both. So let's put this one as a non-issue. China, which side do you trust more against China? I do applaud Trump for exposing China. There's been a problem with China. So you are more confident knowing that Trump is gonna

go against China than Biden's gonna go against China. I would say, but he's very erratic. You said that's a good thing. Yeah, you said that's a good thing. I don't mind it. Okay, so let's put Trump here. Riots, BLM. I think you're probably on Biden's side.

Yes. So do you realize on your main issues, you agree more with Trump? I'm two and two. No, you're not. Two.M. I think you're probably on Biden's side. Yes. So do you realize on your main issues, you agree more with Trump? I'm two and two. No, you're not. Two and two. No, you're not. It's gonna be. stimulus is even.

They're both gonna do it to buy the votes. I'm veering left on that one. I'm two and two. And what way though? You just said they want to do it because they get votes. I think people do need, I think, stimulus checks. And my truck has done it. He's done it.

He's getting all the stimulus that people have asked. He's done it. He just said he's not, though. Well, he said he changes mine. He's done it. He's getting all the stimulus that people have asked he's done. He just said he's not though. Well, he said he changes mind. He's doing it. He's changes mind every day. What I'm saying is say he does it. Then that's a vote for Trump. I see where you're doing here. Yeah, what I respect it. You're saying, all right, let's see your top issues. And my point out that is a hatred of Trump. Bro, what I'm trying to say is forget about the guy. It's impossible to do that. But if you can't do it, you're not gonna forget about that guy.

But you know what you're saying if you say that. You know what you're saying if you say that? You know what you're saying if you say that. That I'm an emotional creature. You're not rational. That you can't rationally reason. Because rational, irrational would be, there's nothing I agree with, no matter what he does,

I hate him. That's irrational. I run a company. Rational is saying, I don't really care for the guy, but here are the things I do enjoy about. I run a company. Yeah. And, you know, I don't expect everybody to like my style of driving people.

I don't like, I don't expect them to like it. Okay? But I do know behind closed doors, they'll sit there and say, it's a freaking guy get stuff done. What am I going to do? Every single time some happens, companies improve. Simple as that. I trust this guy at the top, right?

One of the girls we work with, her name is Diana. I got to give her a shot at her killer right, her and her husband, Kiel Roy. You know, when she first came in, she sat in my house on December 31, 2010. Okay. And we were talking at the time. And she said, one of my concerns is, you come across as being reckless with money.

That's what she says to you. And she says, I worry because to run a startup, I don't know how you handle money. I worry about the way you handle money. It's okay. And she said some other concerns that she has with me. By the way, she has a right to think that. This is in 2010. Yes.

Fast forward four years later. You know what she tells me? She says, Pat, you know, I had no idea you were disconcerbated with money behind closed doors. I had no idea how conservative you were with money behind closed doors. You have no idea how much confidence it gives me. Then I'm driving a challenge in her.

Today, she's one of the best people in the company. Her and her husband, Diana, they're absolutely crushing it right now, right? She says, I am now thankful for how you challenge does to improve, right? But for a period, she didn't like my approach because I was hard charging a challenge and all the other stuff. We have personalities in a company

that they don't get along, okay? When it comes on to values and principles, we do get along. When it comes on to personalities, you don't get along, okay? When it comes on to values and principles, we do get along. When it comes on to personalities, you don't get along. If you only wanna work with personalities that you get along with, you can have a problem. For me, has zero to do with personalities. It's all about values and principles.

If I can sit there and tell you, philosophically, I'm on this page with you philosophically, I don't care how annoying of a person you are. We're on the same page with values and principles. We're on the same page with philosophies. I'm good with you. If I can't do that rationally and be reasonable, I'm an emotional human being,

I'm always gonna be controlled for the rest of my life. I don't wanna be controlled. And it just comes down to the fact that no one can get past the fact that they hate Trump. You wanna know what my fears are? Or the same question you asked Adam. Here, A, socialism is on the fast track if Biden wins. I am concerned about the Supreme Court

because they're going to stack it, and they're going to change everything that the apostabe can. They're going to make DC a state. They're going to make Puerto Rico a state. They're going to flip the electoral college process. Our freedoms are going to be gone. They're going to have a game plan that they've got now to shut down the country and control us even more.

They've done that, check that off the box. Capitalism, you can kiss it goodbye. The free money, California's doing this thing right now. Garcetti came out where he says that, everybody's gonna get a hand out. Free money, just for being alive. They're just gonna hand it out. And then I'll tell you another thing,

the lawlessness in this country is gonna be off the charts. It's gonna be insane. there's not gonna be any money to pay for law and order and police forces and whatnot. And then here I'll tell you where it's gonna go. The more conservative level headed people in this country when the dust settles, if they lose, are gonna be so pissed off that they allowed it to happen. We allowed the media to completely manipulate us

to control the messaging 100% that there will be more unrest than you think. There could be some sort of civil war. I mean, if you want to call it, if you had asked me that two years ago, I would say there is less chance of a civil war in the United States than any other scenario possible, including aliens landing on the US.

I just thought there was no way it could happen. Now, I'm almost convinced it will. It's a very good point. Kai, do you have that USA to the article about civil war or not? Do you have it up? If you don't, that's all good, but I don't think we had it in our list. Let me know if you do or you don't. Just tap in USA to the civil war.

Okay. When is the last time you saw USA today, civil war? Yeah, there you go. Civil war. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, yeah, there you go, civil war. It's not three hours, it's, I don't know if I can say this on this degree. It was an article that came, okay, right there, half the voters, if you go up, go up, go up, go up, go up.

Over half the voters, I expect violence, watch this. This is yesterday, okay, now let me just read the headline. Thank you. The country's lost its mind. Polls warning of civil war. Violence shows deep partisan chast- chasm over election. I mean, when is the last time USA Today sits something like that? The poll of 1999, Regis of Otis found that nearly

half 47% disagree with the idea that election is likely to be fair and honest. And that's slightly more than 51%, more than half 51 percent want to generally go on who is legitimately I like the president out of states the online poll was conducted October 1st through 2nd and as a margin arrow of my plus minus 2.56 percent okay so look polls you know how I feel about polls I'm not big on polls but to say we're headed towards civil war, how do we get here? So again, for me, it goes back down to, it's okay, it's not a big deal, let that policy go through.

It's okay, you know the whole compromise thing. Oh my gosh, when people say compromise, it's one of the, you gotta give something to get something. That's not the truth. There is no such thing like compromise. Let me explain to what I mean by compromise. So say you and I, like look what Eric just did. Eric just said what?

No, not where I was at, okay, with the Marines. Eric didn't compromise. Eric just said what? No, I didn't see it on my unit. Great, I saw it on my unit. Eric didn't say yes, he said what? No, not on my unit, okay? We're living in a time where we think everything's about compromise. It's not about compromise

It's about what's the best thing to do if the system America created has fundamentally done better than all of these other nations combined Only in 244 years or whatever the timeline is. What the hell are we doing questioning that system? Improving it? Yes. Fundamentally changing it. It's scary. There is a concern for me when it comes down to, when you win and you start doing really

good, a couple of things happens to you. And I see this, I had a conversation, one of my favorite guys in the company, I said it was a 45 minute conversation, pretty intense conversation. The conversation was, you're getting soft. He says, I'm not getting soft. He accused you. I called him and I said, you're getting soft.

I told him I said, you're getting soft. And he says, what even I'm getting soft? I said, success has gotten you soft. And I said, you have to be very, very careful. He says, what do you mean? I said, brother, let me put it to you this way. The moment you start winning and everything you want it, for instance,

like you want to be making a lot of money, lifestyle, house, attention, all this stuff that you want it, that comes with a price, what's the price? You're officially a target. America is the greatest country in the world. No problem. You're officially a target. America is the greatest country in the world. No problem. You're officially a target. What happens when's a target? People are not happy about it.

Who the hell likes losing? You know how much people love when they sell golden-stayed warriors. There were people on Twitter celebrating when Kevin Durant got hurt, when Clay Thompson, remember when he went for the layup? He got hurt. He held his leg, called his dad called his dad that dude this guy's done

They were celebrating they should have won and beaten the Toronto Raptor. They should have been a champion People were celebrating that they got hurt Celebrating when they got hurt why because for five years they embarrassed everybody a little guy They embarrassed everybody. A little guy, six-one, became a two-time MVP, embarrassing a LeBron James, a behemoth of a player, pre-keven Durant. Let's remember this, they won pre-keven Durant. They hated him.

Now you're a target. That's what comes with the territory when he start winning. But when you start winning, the part I like about Trump, which is very interesting. If you saw him when he got on that show with Ali G, with Sasha Cohen, and Sasha Cohen's trying to kind of fool around with him, right? Just see what he, the moment he noticed

there's games going on, he just said, well, I wish you nothing but the best. Well, good luck guys, all the best, good luck. Okay, thank you, good luck, good luck, and he walked off. He didn't say anything, he just walked off. He still has his, you know, instincts.

He still's got that paranoia thing knowing that he's a target. He knows he's a target. Unfortunately, the American politicians, when they become politicians, he's what happens. When you go to dinner with a celebrity, first time if you're on a celebrity or somebody

that's a big name, what do you become? Google Gaga. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh. Luke, how are you doing? You gotta be loyal to your friends. Bullshit, I'm loyal to America. That's who my loyalty is first. You have to be loyal to the country

that gave you the opportunity to become where you became not loyal to your foreign, you know, like what Kamala said, you have to be loyal, that's the advice that Biden gave. I'm sorry. The more and more you just kinda say, it's okay, it's okay, kind of say, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. Half a percent here, 0.2 percent here, 0.1 percent here,

then suddenly you're going to wake up and you're going to see, they're living in your living room, sleeping in your bed, kicking back over here, there's a line you can't cross, and we have let that line constantly go a little bit further back, a little bit further back, a little bit further back, now we're in too deep. If people don't stand up and realize that this great idea founded in 1776, that attracted economy, the industrial growth that we've had, where everybody around the world wants to model this economy, secretly, every country around the world,

minus a handful of them that religiously disagree with, what we believe in secretly, every country in the world wants to be like America. Secretly. Of course. They all want to be like America. Secretly. Of course. They all want to be like America. And we're letting that go. It's a little bit scary.

If you think about it, if countries were a company, guess what this means to other countries, an opportunity. If I am another country, and I'm Costa Rica, I'm Panama, I'm any of these other countries. I'm any of these other countries. You know what I'm thinking about? Here's what I'm Costa Rica, I'm Panama, I'm sweet, I'm any of these other countries, I'm, I'm, any of these other countries, you know what I'm thinking about? Here's what I'm thinking about. Let's attract some of these people. I'm gonna leave.

I'm gonna put a 50 year plan together. I'm gonna put a 22, 50 year plan together. You know what I'm gonna start doing? Exactly what Abbott did, but with my country. I'm gonna do what Abbott did with my country, says, I asked Nasak to come to Texas. Here's why. We just signed something on our constitution that we will never have state taxes?

You know what I'm doing if I'm another country? If you're an entrepreneur, you live in America, you're worried about losing all your rights, your freedoms, all this other taxes, come consider us. Whatever the country is. If I'm a PM or president of another country, I'm drooling right now because the biggest behemoth is about to lose talent.

And if you make an environment for me to go there that I'm gonna get the freedom, another country officially has the opportunity to have an opening here. Yeah, but you need some forward thinking countries and I hope there are some. I hope there's someone who grabbed up. There certainly is.

There certainly is. You just can't be afraid of doing that, but there certainly is going to be. Someone's got to have the opportunity to do it. Let me ask you a follow up question, because you started everything you just said with the word compromise, right? So there's certain things that you would not compromise.

Your values and principles, you would not compromise those whatsoever. But you do need to compromise from time to time. That's not like you go throughout your entire life, not compromising, you go through negotiation, you compromise. They're going through these stimulus negotiations. You have to compromise. Democrats are initially at three trillion.

Republicans are at one trillion. You have to compromise to get to two trillion. So there's things that you should not compromise. Your values of principles, cool. Who you are as a person, proud to be an American. No compromise there. But when you're negotiating, when you're in a boardroom, when you're on the Congress floor, you have to compromise.

I disagree. You can't see compromises. But I disagree. You can't see compromises a bad thing. No, I disagree with you. Tell me why. And there lies the problem. There lies the problem because, look, there's something called non-negotiables.

We are compromising our non-negotiables. Okay. We are compromising our non-negotiables. I understand compromising small stuff, meaning, hey, we're gonna put TI $500,000 into this building. Okay, great. And I want you to put such and such here this year. Okay, I can do that, but I can't do the AC because we're dealing with $500,000 as a budget. Fine, got it.

Okay, no prompt. Non-negotiable. If you're not paying for the AC, I'm not even doing it. No prong. Then if I hold some say, you know what? Don't worry. Instead of three ACs, just put one. Those guys in the back don't really need it Anyways, they're gonna get it from the other place. No, I'm not compromising my non-negotiables. America is compromising. It's non-negotiables, bro. They're compromising. They're non-negoti- you neverising their non-negotiations. You never compromise your non-negotiables. Now with your kids, now with your spouse, now with your family, not with the people you work with, never your non-negotiables. I'm on the same page. So clearly. But what we're

doing is said value is in principle. Yeah, non-negotiations. But there's things there are negotiable. Of course there's things that are negotiable. Everything is not negotiable. You say that you don't compromise at all. You compromise every day. Except for non-negotiations. For sure. If I sit with you and you say something to me and I'm disagreeing with you,

I'm not looking to be right. I'm looking for the best solution that long term's best for everybody. If you propose something that's better for me long term and it's, I'm wrong, I'm not trying, well, compromise with me here. No, no, I'm saying, we're going with you, buddy. Cause I'm not trying to be right.

I'm trying to be what? What's the best thing for us to grow the company? That's not compromising. That's saying, you were right, I was wrong. We didn't compromise, you won. There is no compromise there. I don't know if I'm making sense on the same thing. You're saying that it's more than a compromise,

you reverse course. It's not compromise. It's what's the best decision, what's the best choice, and what are we not negotiating? Certain things are off the table. Bro, what I can say, these three things are off the table. Everything else, let's talk about it. But that's not what we're doing as politicians.

As politicians, everything's on the table. You just saw right now, we're gonna raise a Supreme Court, you know, from nine to 15, and the last time that's half 150 years, they're willing to do it, they don't even wanna answer it. That's not compromising. That's not compromising. Yeah, that's radical, that's crazy.

That's a concern. So anyways, guys, we got a lot of other topics to cover, but we're at nine 53. Do we wanna hit one more topic, Sheriff? We do which one do you wanna hit? You guys wanna pick a topic here that we got, we got lots of topics here. We gotta talk about Jay Baldwin. Jay Baldwin, no, you here that we got. We got lots of topics here. We got to talk about Jay Baldwin.

Jay Baldwin. No, you know, we got to talk. What we can talk about is, huh? Oil jumps. Oh, that's not what I heard. That's too heavy to end it with. It's too heavy to end it. You want to do BLM, LeBron James.

You want to do, well, grab. What you want to do with... NBA next year. NBA next year. NBA next year. Okay, let's talk about NBA this year. All right. Heat, baby. For two more days. Guys, first time I'm gonna be talking. What is for the heat. Okay, let's talk about NBA this year. Hi. Heat, baby.

For two more days. First time I'm talking about the heat. I know it's crazy. NBA to leave Black Lives Matter social justice, messaging off the floor next season, says commission Adam Silver. We're completely committed to standing for social justice and racial equality. And that's been the case. Going back for decades, silver said in an interview.

It's been part of our DNA of this league. How it gets manifested is something we're going to have to sit down with the players and discuss for next season. I would say in terms of messaging, you see on the courts and jerseys, this was an extraordinary moment in time when we began the discussions with the players and that's what we all live for. This are my senses that there will be somewhat of a return back to normalcy, normalcy that those messages will largely be left

to be delivered on the floor. And understand those people are saying, I'm on your side, but I want to watch basketball games. So meaning we're not re-viewership is down according to Paulson Sports Media. Why Sunday's night games, game three between the Lakers and a hit average 5.94 million viewers. The least watched NBA finals game on record. It topped a previous low of 6.61 million, which was set on Friday game two.

Yeah, I'm gonna give silver a mulligan on this season because everything was just completely whacked and warped and I think this bubble mentality, they did a great job. They really did a phenomenal job. They controlled COVID inside. They didn't have any tests that were positive. The whole time they've been there since January

or since July, the playoff basketball has been great. The level of play has been really good. Their ratings are in the toilet. It's his only option at this point because they've turned off probably 40% of their audience that don't even want to watch it anymore. But what his hands were tied, it was a crazy time. Silver's a smart guy is doing the right thing.

Part of the reason their ratings are down to, I don't like watching basketball without fans, without energy, without like some sort of intensity in there. It's completely different. And you're not used to watching basketball in October. This is football season, so people are wired a little bit differently. But it's, look, this is just another example of how everything

that we thought we knew in this country is being changed in front of our eyes. We got a taste of it with NBA basketball. Multiply that by 100, that's where our country's going to be.. We got a taste of it with NBA basketball, multiply that by 100. That's where our country's going to be if it goes a certain way on November 3rd. But Silver's rational. I give him a lot of credit for saying,

no, we are going to go back to way. I know this can't go on for a second year. Yeah, I was actually, I thought it was for sure this was a one-time thing just during the bubble. I don't think this was a big story. I thought for sure. Why not do it for a week? The fact that they did it for five months,

you know, that's where they lost me a little bit. Tushay, I don't know, but certainly things are strange times. It's in the bubble. I will say much respect to whoever's running the show, the anti-COVID campaign over there in the bubble, zero cases. Excuse me, no question about that. The same thing cannot be said about whoever's running the show in the White House. More cases in the White House than in the bubble zero cases. No question about that. The same thing cannot be said

about whoever's running the show in the White House. More cases in the White House than in the NBA bubble. That's a shocker to me. Yeah, or the NFL, or the other sports, or college football, you know, what happened with Cam Newton recently. Yeah, but the bubble creates the advantages, right? Because it can get you in the air.

Sure, but it can bubble in the White House. I don't want to see White House having COVID. I don't know. Regardless of your political plan. I appreciate your emotions, but I don't know about that. You want to see White House COVID? I respect your emotions, buddy. I respect your emotions.

You know, for me, I think Silver's doing a better job than Go Del if he asked me. Silver at least got to the issue immediately. He addressed it and they're moving on. Go Del made a cavernic issue, a four-year issue. Silver made it a five-month issue. And it's gonna be done. They'll move on to next year.

So good for him. I'm not a fan of the product today. The NBA, I'm just not a fan of product today. I think every time I hear an NBA player do a vote video, you only have one choice for vote. You don't have another choice for vote. It's not like, hey, vote. You're there saying vote for who we're telling you to vote for.

Not go vote. It's not like you have a choice. That's the funny thing that make it seem like a pro democracy man. You're saying vote. Make my choice. Not go vote. You're saying some limbo- That's the funny thing that make it seem like a pro democracy man. You're saying vote. I'm showing you that. I would love. What I would love is I'd love two teammates sitting next to each other, one were in a

BLM shirt and another one were in a magazine shirt hugging each other. I'd love to see that. There was a picture that came the other day that I went viral on social media. I don't know if you saw that. Two neighbors. Posed a picture. One had a Biden Kamala Harris sign on and a shirt on and the other one had a Trump pants shirt on

and it took a picture and it won viral. Awesome. That's great to see more of that. I'd love to see more of that. I would love the NBA and Adam Silver to allow one person to wear a MAGA shirt and the NBA. I've never seen that. I'd love to see that happen.

The guy would be crucified from the top if he did that. When we talked about the one guy who did not know. Yes. Jonathan Isaac. So the one guy who did not kneel for the anthem. First time in my life. Blue is knee out the next game. Next time in my life, I'm not rooting for this guy.

First time in my life. Well, it's unbelievable. The Lakers are one day away from clinching a title. That should be a big deal. I feel the same way. I just lived there and I don't even feel like they're part of the city. It is what it is.

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