PBD Podcast - Musk & Trump X Spaces, RFK & Kamala Cabinet Job, Nord Stream Pipeline Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 456

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Starting point is 00:00:51 I be running homie, look what I become. I'm the one. All right, we are officially back. 4.56. The last time we did a podcast was two weeks ago. And, you know Tuesday I wasn't on the pod for many reasons. I don't know what stories these guys told you. I'm sure Adam told you I was at a cat conference. Conspiracy. Yeah all

Starting point is 00:01:14 these other stories but all I know is I'm glad to be back with everybody. We had a massive convention the week before at MGM Grand. It was a phenomenal one great experience. Proud of the guys over. And now here Thursday with a lot of, I feel like honestly, I feel like there's six months of stories we haven't covered. I miss you. I can't wait to talk to you wherever you are, whether you're in the car listening to this, you're at work shaking your head to your boss like you're working or even if you're in the bathroom. If you're in the bathroom watching to this, much love to all of you wherever you are. Got a couple crazy things I'm going to announce to you here today, but stories. Just so you know, Rob, do we want to do this? I know

Starting point is 00:01:54 you're watching this. What if I told you I can in the next 60 seconds recite every single one of yours actual social security number. Would you believe me? Did you hear about what happened? Everyone's social security number was released which means you got to call your bank, you got to go run a credit the next 30, 60, 90 days probably for the rest of the year to make sure nothing crazy is being done. Get one of those alerts. This is not a sponsor. I don't even not even giving you a name. Call ask what is the best alert to put on my credit to know when somebody runs the credit, I get an alert.

Starting point is 00:02:29 Do that ASAP. Whatever. Call your bank and ask them. Do that ASAP. Apparently everyone's, I don't know, four billion social security, how many social security numbers was it, Tom? Tom Hanks It was, well it's at least 330 million active and I'm hearing that it was like half a billion two point seven billion there's a lot of dead people and then I don't know how you get two point seven billion around

Starting point is 00:02:50 the world right point seven billion records and five hundred million numbers I got you well that's a lot I mean that's a lot that because this and that people can have credit why can't that people can do a lot of things Tom if you follow the history of different things that people have a lot of value let's? If you follow the history of different things, dead people have a lot of value. Let's continue. Joe Rogan clarifies that he has not endorsed RFK. It feels like a month ago. I haven't responded to it.

Starting point is 00:03:11 RFK tries to meet Kamala Harris to discuss cabinet job. I got a message for RFK. I could be very helpful to you. That was actually very awkward, Tom. Rob, tell me that wasn't inappropriate. We thought he was here and he was inappropriate. Last time you guys got upset for me saying something to Tom, tell me that's not appropriate. Take away 15,000 subs from Tom.

Starting point is 00:03:34 Go to his channel and unsubscribe if you're upset at him. Tom, I have your back. Don't worry, man. It's okay. No, that was RFK talking to Corina. So whistleblower Tulsi Gabbard named on TSA Quiet Sky's watch list. Bad managers are reasons enough to quit, according to LinkedIn. More women are skipping college to make six figures as electricians, car mechanics, and

Starting point is 00:03:56 truck drivers. U.S. colleges are cutting majors and slashing programs after years of putting it off. Kamala Harris, is she going to go campaign? Is she not going to talk to anybody? Mark Cuban goes on Jon Stewart to promote Twitter and X. He is officially in love with Elon Musk so much that he's going on a tour to promote how awesome X is. Obviously it's sarcasm.

Starting point is 00:04:16 He went on Jon Stewart to try to trash Elon, but it ended up backfiring and it actually brought a lot of eyeballs to X, very sweet of him to do so. Suddenly hourly workers aren't so hard to find according to WSJ. CNN effectively worthless after parent Warner Brothers takes $9.1 billion write down Google former CEO says the tech giant is losing out to open AI because staff are working from home. By the way, he said that in an interview a few hours later. He walked it back a little bit.

Starting point is 00:04:48 I wonder why. I'm sure Tom's got some thoughts on this. Nikki Haley urges Trump to quit whining about Kamala Harris. She's not going to give you an interview, give an interview. Believe me, we are asking CNN, Dana Bash, Br Bristles as JD Vance asks why Kamala hasn't done an interview in weeks. Election 2024, Trump 49, Harris 44, RFK 3, Rasmussen reports. Tom's got thoughts on that.

Starting point is 00:05:15 They've done a great job with these polls lately, Tom. And shout out to Amy. Great job, Amy and Tom. UK Police Commissioner threatens to extradite jail US Jail US Citizens Over Online Posts Will Come After You, 24 Hours, Kamala Harris Has Not Done a Press Conference, Home Depot Cut Sales Outlook, Mortgage Refinance Surges 35% in one week as interest rates hit lowest in over a year, middle and low income Americans running out of disposable cash, and we've got a few other stories we'll get into. A couple videos, Thomas Crooks, guess what this guy does on Christmas, Valentine's Day

Starting point is 00:05:49 and Halloween? Vinny's going to tell you in a minute. And then I think we've got a couple other things. By the way, there's a new, this was actually very impressive, which you showed me. I don't know if you guys have seen this or not. Do you guys have any plans of playing somebody better than you in chess? If you do and you want to beat them, there's a, we don't recommend or endorse them at all, but there's this guy, girl that used it that, a little creepy, like a lot of creepy.

Starting point is 00:06:18 And if there's ever been a dumb time to do something like this, not thinking there's cameras around, it's today, but maybe nobody told her that billions of cameras are everywhere nowadays. She didn't think it was possible that she was going to get caught. Now having said that, let me get into a couple different things. Look for those of you guys that watch this podcast loyally and you're convinced the future looks bright, you're part of the 51% future looks bright, 49% only the paranoid survive, I'm excited about what's going on here. You're part of the 51% future looks bright, 49% only the paranoid survive. I'm excited about what's going on here.

Starting point is 00:06:48 More and more, no matter where I go, I see this gear. I go in Vegas. I see everywhere. I'm seeing future looks bright. Future looks bright. Hey, yo, PBD, future looks bright. I love it and it excites me. I want to show you some pictures of guys that have bought the merch and they send it to

Starting point is 00:07:00 me. By the way, if you have bought merch, Rob, if you can go to the pictures, I air dropped it to you. I don't know if you have bought Merch more, Rob, if you can go to the pictures, I airdropped it to you. I don't know if you have them or not. Did you get them? I thought I airdropped them to you. Let me send them to your Macbook. Maybe that'll be faster.

Starting point is 00:07:13 So if it's coming through. If you've bought gear of Future Looks Bright, Angry Patriot, anything with Valuetainment, anything with PBD Podcast, share it with us. We want to recognize you. Just the other day, we got some of them. We can't go through all of them, but we got some. I'm gonna show you some of them here. One of them is an NFL player playing for the Baltimore Ravens, going through the freaking, what do you call it? No way. When he's going to the... Like the running back? No, no. He's going through...

Starting point is 00:07:39 No, those are the walk-in from the bus to the locker room. McMor, when he's going through the not locker room, the hall, like you're going to stadium hall, he's going through the hall, guess what shirt he's wearing? The tunnel. Frickin' future looks bright. Are you serious? Yeah. Rob, did it go through or not?

Starting point is 00:07:54 It's taking a second to download, but I'll have him in just a second. Okay, don't worry. I'll show it to you in a minute. Anyways, once they go to Rob, we'll show it to you. Here's what we got today. The biggest complaint I've gotten the last 90 days is, Pat, why do these USA gear, hat, these things, why do they sell out so quickly? Why is it that it's so limited and all this other stuff? Look, it is what it is.

Starting point is 00:08:16 But here's what we got going on today, which is going to be crazy. For those of you that believe the future looks bright and you love the brand and you love USA and you love America, you want to sport it, go to work with it where you're comfortable saying, I love USA and I believe future looks bright. We got a couple things I want to tell you. The USA ads are officially back, but again, limited supply. Order now, you will have it within three to four weeks. Order now these USA ads because if you don't now, they're going to be delivered in Christmas. This is all I'm telling you.

Starting point is 00:08:46 For all the people that said, Pat, if you put it up, I'm going to buy five for my family, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that, this is your time to do it. The USA hats are here, but on top of this, we've got something that I've been wearing for the last two months, and this is an easy thing for me to sell you, because when you have what they call Jesus feet, you're Assyrian, you're from that community and you have worn a lot of different flip-flops, it's critical to wear flip-flops that are sick and comfortable. I am in love with these new flip-flops.

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Starting point is 00:10:10 3, 4, 5 days if you order today, but it's the first 500. Tag us when you do take the pictures. We'll share some of these pictures here with you. Alright, let's go through the first story. Here's the first story I want to go with. First of all, Joe Rogan clarifies that he has not endorsed RFK. He gets on a video and on this video he says he's the only guy that seems like he's not calling anybody out.

Starting point is 00:10:33 If you want to pull it up Rob, he's not calling anybody out. Just play the clip. We'll go from here. That's politics. They do it on the left, they do it on the right. They gaslight you, they manipulate you, they promote narratives. And the only one who's not doing that is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. You a fan?

Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah, I am a fan. Yeah, he's the only one that makes sense to me. He's the only one that, he doesn't attack people. He attacks actions and ideas, but he's much more reasonable and intelligent. I mean, the guy was an environmental attorney and cleaned up the East River. He's a legitimate guy. You know, before anybody started calling him an anti-vaxxer, which I thought he was, I thought he was this nut, this like conspiracy theorist nut, until I read his book.

Starting point is 00:11:17 I read the real Anthony Fauci, and I'm like, what is, how much of this is real? Because if it's all real, this is fucking insane. And we live in a world where we're being manipulated by these health organizations that are being paid by the pharmaceutical drug interests. And these pharmaceutical drug companies are pumping these products out into the population and telling us that we need them and then making insane amounts of money. So he makes this comment, Trump comes out with a tweet, Trump says, I wonder what the fans are going to react when he walks into the next UFC.

Starting point is 00:11:50 I'm sure you guys, did you guys read that? Unusual suspect, you know, how they're going to react when they walk and just go to images rabbit will pop up if you go to images. And you know, he makes these comments and then Rogan comes back and says, I'm not endorsing RFK. All I'm doing is, you know, he says, that's not an endorsement, Claire, for RFK. It's like RFK as a person. Confusion over Rogan's position on election arose following Tuesday during the appearance.

Starting point is 00:12:19 Kennedy the friendship for the record. This isn't an endorsement. This is me saying that I like RFK Jr. as a person and I really appreciate the way he discusses things with civility and intelligence. I think we could use more of this in this world. I also think Trump raising his fist and saying fight after getting shot is one of the most American f'ing things of all time. Okay, so that's that. Back and forth, and then it'll be interesting to see how loudly Joe Rogan gets boot next time he enters the UFC ring. And then you know what Joe Rogan does? Joe Rogan goes, by the way, kill Tony.

Starting point is 00:12:51 Tony Hinchcliffe is killing it. That's exactly what he's doing. The guy's on freaking fire. Selling out arenas with his show that he's doing. I think he's got the best comedy show on the podcast in the world, apparently Kill Tony. But Rogan posts a picture. Maybe one of the best pictures he's posted on Instagram, if you go to Rogan's Instagram, this is why Rogan understands the simple concept of humor. And if you look at the picture that he posts, he posts a picture saying, don't worry, we

Starting point is 00:13:21 got it scored away, me and Trump are good. And what was it? A picture of him and Shane Gillis. Right? And it gets a half a million likes and everybody laughs and everybody moves on. The power of humor, right, when this takes place. When an exchange like this happens, Vinny, how do you process this? When that happened with Joe, you know, RFK, Trump, back and forth, Shane Gillis, humor,

Starting point is 00:13:44 how do you process that? Okay, so I'm going to take a couple of different angles because I know exactly where Joe Rogan is a grown man. He can say what he wants, who he likes, and it shouldn't really bother anybody. On the other side, I could see the Trump people, because mind you, when this happened, you have no idea how many messages I got, because I try to play devil's advocate, but you have to understand, coming from Trump, Trump hearing him saying all these people gaslight you, he said all of them.

Starting point is 00:14:10 So that includes Donald Trump. So he lumped them in there and he said, all these people do this. And the only one and is not attacking people. The only one that's not doing it is RFK from Donald Trump's point of view. You know, he's a, he's a loyal this Joe Rogan doesn't own anything. But if you think about it, he's had Joe Rogan has had how many years now? Seven years. Trump has shown through and throughout that he is exactly what the country needs. All the stuff that they did to him with CNN and turning his color green for COVID. They did all that with Trump. They've been going after Trump

Starting point is 00:14:41 this whole time. So I think Trump felt like, hey, listen, I've been nothing but I've proved myself through and through. When I see you at the UFC, I shake your hand. I give you respect. Even all that. You haven't put me on your podcast. You don't even want to have me on your podcast. He said in the past, he doesn't want to. So being Trump, I'm thinking as Trump, being the loyalist, he wants loyalty. Again, he doesn't owe it to him. But I feel like for him to come out after everything that Trump has bled, he was shot in the head and get to the point where he's showing you all this love and everything, for you to still say, like, I'm gaslighting and I'm attacking, the same people that are attacking you have been attacking me for seven years.

Starting point is 00:15:18 So I feel like Donald Trump, by the way, not a good move. I don't agree with it. I don't think coming out there and saying something like that, you're going to say something like, hey, listen, not cool, Joe. I've been over here for you the whole time. I'm not a gas lighter. I'm not like that. But you know, that's how Trump rolls, bro. That's how I feel. I think, you know, you look at it, and I thought Rogan was making a very casual point, a clear point. I read the book, you read our case book on Fauci. We know how Rogan feels about vaccinations. everything went along with that.

Starting point is 00:15:46 And he's talking about that and he said, I found a reasonable guy. But right now, we are at the height of sensitivity and we are in the middle of incredibly hot media and trying to figure out, you know, is the Kamala bounce that we're seeing in the polls, is it really only one, two percent, is it more than that? There is such a backstory going on here. And I think Trump is very, his ears are hypersensitive right now to what he's hearing from people. And I don't know if it was the best move to kind of come out on Rogan like that,

Starting point is 00:16:16 but I don't think Rogan meant ill will trying to besmirch him. And I applaud Rogan for coming back and saying, hey, I wasn't endorsing him, this is what I was doing. So I thought Rogan was just trying not to keep it flamed, but to kind of get it to calm down and clarify. Let me ask you a question, Do you feel like Trump is a little bit perturbed that the number one podcast, I know he's flip-flopping back and forth with,

Starting point is 00:16:38 uh, with Tucker, that he hasn't not necessarily endorsed him, but have him on the podcast, have a conversation with them so publicly come out and say no I'm not I'm not interested in giving him a podcast at all you don't feel like that kind of and again I'm not agree I don't like what Trump did I'm not I know there's people out there like oh brainwashed you whatever no no it's not a good movie had no reason to look why do that it's almost as if a gen Z person got on the phone and texted you don't think it bothers him that he hasn't even invited him in on this podcast?

Starting point is 00:17:05 I can't speak to the Trump campaign strategy for where they're going to be interviewing what the media travel plan is. Right now Kamala Harris doesn't sit down with anybody. So I can't say who's thinking what and who's concerned. There's a lot of open chairs with a lot of very influential podcasts that could really help this election and help with strategy. And so I think Trump could be a lot of places I can't read into what he may or may not have been thinking about about Rogan scheduling and and whether

Starting point is 00:17:33 Trump's even available where he was going. So the question I think we need to ask is was this a good move or a bad move for Trump to respond viciously to Joe Rogan. I would say it's a stupid move. President Trump, why make Joe Rogan an enemy at all? Joe Rogan was a Bernie Sanders guy eight years ago, and he's inched closer and closer and closer and closer to your world. You know, many people think that Joe Rogan is a right wing cook. He's not. He's a free thinker. He's an independent. He's a libertarian probably that likes to shoot guns, eat venison and meat and smoke weed and do his thing. And certainly we

Starting point is 00:18:18 know about UFC. Why at all have an issue with Rogan? How does that help you increase voters? It doesn't. It doesn't at all. And it ruins your relationship with, because now you put Dana White in an awkward position because he walks in with the guy and he works for him. Not a good move. We had a conversation, we have a bet whether Trump is going to go on Rogan.

Starting point is 00:18:43 We'll see. Does this accelerate that? This does not. No, it does not. I'm so mad. You don't think this accelerates it? Accelerate it to not to go on. This I think hindered it.

Starting point is 00:18:58 I think it's the opposite. Really? I think it's completely the opposite. Let me tell you why. You have no idea how the perfect storm happened. What is the perfect storm? Everybody follows someone's lead. And Joe is gifted because he's hypersensitive.

Starting point is 00:19:16 The hypersensitive people, we link hypersensitivity as a negative thing, okay? Let's, obviously, there's hypersensitive, super insecure, lazy, that's dangerous, right? Did you understand those three? Yes. Hypersensitive, you know, insecure and lazy is very dangerous, those three. Hypersensitivity with You're comfortable in your own skin, and you're driven

Starting point is 00:19:50 That's Michael Super hypersensitive. Are you kidding me? He still doesn't talk to Scotty or Charles Barkley your best friend What are you all he did it do his job? Yeah, you realize why they're not speaking He explained why they didn't speak because Barkley wentay went and worked for TNT, said a couple words about Michael that's the last time he spoke. Done deal. How dare you cut me like that? Okay? Trump, hypersensitive. How dare you say something like this about me? Okay? Hypersensitive. Who else do you know that's hypersensitive? Think about the people you know that are hypersensitive, but they have the ultimate trifecta. Hypersensitive,

Starting point is 00:20:24 confident, and driven. Tiger Woods, don't say nothing about him or his coach when he was at his playing peak. I know him as well. So Rogan is hypersensitive, he's secure, and he's driven. You don't have to make this guy work. Who just did the biggest podcast in the history of mankind? Elon Musk has officially done the biggest podcast in the history of mankind. Ever. It's done. He broke the record. A billion views.

Starting point is 00:20:55 He put the number up. You understand what that means? So guess what? Joe doesn't now have to worry about anybody saying, you helped Trump get elected. Now Joe can just go and do it and say, well, Musk did it, I'm just doing a regular podcast. It's not going to get a billion views. Because Joe doesn't have 190 million followers on Twitter and X. Musk does.

Starting point is 00:21:18 Joe's not worth $250 billion. Joe's a billionaire. If he's not a billionaire, he's going to be there in the next 24 months if he's not there right now. I'm just saying he's a billionaire because if he's not, it's because he doesn't give a shit about being a billionaire. If he's not a billionaire, he's going to be there in the next 24 months if he's not there right now. I'm just saying he's a billionaire because if he's not, it's because he doesn't give a shit about being a billionaire. But he's going to be a billionaire. You know, Musk has got a mission he's on. Joe's not on a mission. Joe's enjoying his life, right? And his mission is a different mission that he's got. One is trying to go land on the moon. One is trying to keep humanization, Joe is just

Starting point is 00:21:47 kind of trying to have the conversation and enjoy his life, be a good father, do his best as a human being. That's what he's trying to do. So I actually think this perfect storm of this feud happening with RFK with Musk having Trump on accelerated the process of him getting gone and on top of this guess what the conversation is right now behind closed doors that Trump's campaign managers are about to get fired and Trump is potentially having a conversation with bringing Kellyanne Conway as a campaign manager bringing

Starting point is 00:22:16 her back bringing her back and by the way Kelly Ann is to me is a stud of a person we've dealt with some of the campaign managers on the inside here's a problem when you have a campaign manager on the inside that are sensitive, and I'm not saying they are, but an article was written about a year ago. And one of our guys wrote the article, and this article gets posted. WTF, what is this all about? What do you mean? One of the guys wrote the article.

Starting point is 00:22:44 The article eluded to something about some investment that was raised years back, wasn't a positive article about somebody. Bone. Unfollow, silence, everything. So no problem. This is when the call is happening that something may happen for conversation. And then I'm at all the Republican presidential debates. Debates and everything.

Starting point is 00:23:08 And I'm running into these guys. And I'm just seeing how they're processing issues. And I'm sitting with Chris Pavlovsky from Rumble, who's by the way the guy is freaking kicking ass. I love that guy. Very happy for the guy. What he's doing, good for him. I hope Brombo becomes a hundred billion dollar company and they whoop some ass and they compete and love the fire.

Starting point is 00:23:30 I think he's the right guy for the job and he's doing a good job, so keep at it. So we're sitting, we're meeting around these people. As a campaign manager, this is what you have to be careful with. There's a difference between you not doing something because of your ego that hurts the chances of the person you're representing. For example, I have this conversation with Sam all the time. Handlers have a lot of power. Campaign managers have a lot of power. What do handlers do? Let me explain what a handler can do.

Starting point is 00:24:06 How much power does a handler have? This episode is brought to you by Mazda. When you drive a Mazda, you'll find out why RSUVs won more 2024 IIHS Top Safety Picks than any other brand as of June, 2024. Find out what makes Mazda different at Mazda.ca. Your mom hates it when you leave six half full

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Starting point is 00:25:10 What are the worst handlers? The ones that let their personal opinions and their views get involved with who that you should be talking to. Let me put it, if your handler, after meeting people through you, is the first to post a picture of the person they just met It's about fame. Yeah, right Why are you sharing the pictures of who you just met? Your handler they forget they're a handler your job is to be a handler You chose this job don't do this job if you want to be famous and cool

Starting point is 00:25:40 Joan amend this one the best things she ever told me she ever told me this the former chief disguise officer the CIA When I asked to repeat this was one of the best things she ever told me, this former Chief Disguise Officer at the CIA, when I asked her repeatedly, this was one of the best things ever said on an interview I ever did, I said, what's the great quality of a CIA agent? I said, is it to be charming? Is it to be charismatic? Is it to be a great salesperson? Is it to be a good negotiator? Is it to be, what is it, is it to be driven, is it to be competitive? He said, it's all of that plus one thing.

Starting point is 00:26:09 I said, what's that? Have I told you this story? No, I was going to guess. Let me tell you what she said. I've told you this story. Here's what she said. It gave me the chills all over my head. I was in front of the White House when I interviewed her.

Starting point is 00:26:20 With the set on the back is the White House. If you actually go to this Rob Tappen, Joan Amendis by David, she says, they have to be charming, charismatic, all this other stuff, but one thing's very important. They don't need any recognition. And if they save the free world, they don't have to tell anybody about it. That's the podcast. White House is right behind us. Can you go to the picture that shows the White House, Rob?

Starting point is 00:26:42 You just had it right there. One of the shows that shows the White House Rob? You just had it right there. One of the takes shows the White House. That's the White House right behind us. So she says they don't have to tell anybody about it. Sometimes handlers want to act like it's cool that they're on the inside to be with Trump. You have to fire those handlers. This is not about being cool. A proper person doesn't have to be impressed that they're around you that they have to brag about it

Starting point is 00:27:08 Kellyanne Conway is Fantastic because she's been around so many big personalities. It's like listen, I respect you I'm doing the job because I'm doing it for America. So I think right now with the perfect storm of Musk just having Trump on of his feud feud with Trump over RFK, of the campaign manager just potentially getting fired and being replaced by somebody else. And to top it off, you know, RFK goes and has a meeting with Kamala Harris's team for a job on the campaign.

Starting point is 00:27:41 I think all of these things accelerated to chances of- Is that story accurate? Did he actually meet with her? This is WAPO. This is WAPO. Okay? So R.F. Kennedy tried to meet Kamala Harris to discuss the cabinet trial. Go through it. So here's a story of he wants to meet with… no. Now, do me a favor, go to his Twitter account while I'm reading this, Rob, to see if he answered to this question. RFK sought a meeting with Kamala Harris to discuss potentially joining her cabinet if

Starting point is 00:28:09 he endorses her campaign. Harris's team have not endorsed proposal. Kennedy's previously attempted similar talks with Donald Trump with no agreement reached. Kennedy's campaign claims that his endorsement would boost Harris or Trump across 31 states. However, his standing in national polls has dropped since Joe Biden exited the race from 95%. Despite this, Kennedy is still actively campaigning but is open to other avenues to influence change. Kennedy's outreach to Democrats, including attempts through Hollywood intermediaries and Biden allies, has largely been ignored

Starting point is 00:28:39 with Democrat insiders dismissing him as a MAGA-funded fringe candidate. Is that his response to it? Yes. Okay, so let's go through it. So VP Harris' Democratic Party would be unrecognizable to my father and uncle and I cannot reconcile my values. The Democratic Party, or RFK and JFK, was the party of civil liberties and free speech. VP Harris' party of censorship and lockdowns and medical coercion. Kennedy Democrats were anti-war kamalas riddled with neocon warmongers. The RFK JFK Dems were allied of Main Street cops, firefighters and working people. VP Harris is the party of Big Tech, Big Pharma and Wall Street. My dad and uncle's party was the champion of voting rights and fair elections. VP Harris is the party of

Starting point is 00:29:17 lawfare disenfranchisement and coordination of its candidates by corporate donors and party elites. I've used our nation's court to prosecute corporations who hurt black Americans. VP Harris used our nation's courts to mercilessly prosecute black Americans and exploit them for their labor. My father and uncle prided themselves on their skills at debates and their ability to articulate a coherent vision for our country. VP Harris is scared to debate and can't survive an unscripted interview instead of outlining a vision she replies relies on homes middle school tactics, memes, forged headlines, infantile slogans, joy and name-calling Republicans as weird. I've spent years battling government corruption and lies.

Starting point is 00:29:58 VP Harris spent years gaslighting Americans about the health of our Commander in Chief. I have no plans to endorse Kamala Harris for president. I do have a plan to defeat her. Boom. Is he accurate? So, let me ask you this. One million percent. No, no, hang on.

Starting point is 00:30:12 Let me ask you this. This is really the only question. Kai, what's the percentage you believe he directly or indirectly or sending a handler went to Kamala Harris's camp to talk about a potentially job to negotiate with them. No. You're at zero? I'm gonna say very low.

Starting point is 00:30:31 Rob? Very low. I'm also at zero. I have a clip I can play you, which is why. Go for it. Are you at zero? I mean, you never know. I'm like 2%.

Starting point is 00:30:39 Tom, where you at? I'm at 25% and they told them to F off and that led to the last sentence of that because everything in there is true and then the last sentence I have no plans, but did you have a plan last week? Were you thinking about hey my voice needs to be heard and want to be relevant I think there's a 25% chance he went in there and they told him to stuff it and then he's like, okay Fully disagree. Well, but Adam you're saying zero means a hundred percent zero you're right that's what I think you're right let's see what he has on here go ahead I

Starting point is 00:31:11 wouldn't say zero because you know the margin of error you know two percent whatever very low yeah think about it from Kamala Harris's position you don't think she wants his five ten percent, whatever the hell he's pulling at? You think that she's too good for that? By the way, don't look now. She's just quote unquote tied, surpassed right there with Trump at this point, even though she hasn't said a word. Maybe. Trump and Kamala, whatever you think, would be very smart to cozy up to this man. This man is smart. He's informed. He's a fighter He knows what the hell he's talking about to get him on your team

Starting point is 00:31:50 How much money would you pay for that? What kind of campaign advisor budget would you put together to get RFK on your squad? I think he'd be way more aligned with Trump than with Kamala So I that's why I asked I posed the question at the beginning, do you think that story is even true? I don't see him after making a statement like that. This is the day after Joe Biden announced that he was stepping down and not continuing to seek the office of president in 2024 and Kamala was the nominee. Okay, go ahead.

Starting point is 00:32:20 You know, Kamala Harris is the party of war. She is a war hawk. The Democratic Party was always the Peace Party. Kamala Harris is a war hawk on Ukraine. She's a war hawk on China. I think that we should be figuring out ways to coexist with the rest of the world as best we can. Of course, we need to protect our national security. I think she's not going to do anything about the national deficit. I've never heard her speak about the chronic disease epidemic. I think she's a product of the corporate control of our democracy. And she's one of the authors of in terms of civil rights.

Starting point is 00:33:07 She has one of the worst civil rights record of any public official. She's the author of the, one of the primary authors of the school to prison pipeline. She kept 5,000 people despite a Supreme Court order that she released 5,000 prisoners and of nonviolent drug crimes who were ill. Tom, I'm not coming to you first, but Vinny, go ahead. What do you? Well, I mean, again, who knows? At the end of the day, we can't say 100%. But I mean, I'm thinking I went to the Trump side. You think after, because Trump had that call with him that was leaked, somebody recorded him talking about it. You think after that, Trump is considering bringing this guy on board on him after he found out that he might have been

Starting point is 00:33:48 going to come? Yes, if he was smart. Wait, you're saying Trump may not want him on his side? If Trump found out, look at how he responded to Joe Brooks. Let me tell you how business works. Listen, I'm in the convention last week, okay, with my key leaders. And you know, there are certain things when you look at everybody, and I have a score for them and they have a score for me. Here's how life works. My guys, when you're running business for a long time, I have stuff on some of my guys who left me and are not with me, who are very good with me, because whatever they did, I've never told anybody.

Starting point is 00:34:38 And I knew. I've never told anybody. They left, they trashed me, never told anybody. Personal stuff, never told anybody. They left, they trashed me, never told anybody. Personal stuff, never told anybody. So while you're transitioning with the move that you're going right now, I know what's going to happen. Some people only look at you as, man, I can make a lot of money with this guy. And their loyalty while you're there that they can monetize you. And then all of a sudden with that move they're like Oh my loyalty has to move over here

Starting point is 00:35:07 Because to my money and you'll feel that and it's awkward because some of the guys you're like I did the most for that guy And they gradually kind of become like this with you. Okay, cool. Some of the guys They've always been the same with you Some of the guys you never knew they were the most loyal to you But at a time like this you realize wow you were the one most loyal That's pretty crazy, but guess what you have to manage our relationships So for Trump for a guy that's on the other side You look at everybody in the room, and you have a score for everybody on how much you trust them

Starting point is 00:35:40 It's very simple so for example. So I would never trust you around my daughters. I would never trust you around my family. I would never trust you with my money. I would never trust you with a top secret. Because I always know you always make a decision for what's best for you, not what's best for the company. So if I tell you something about one of our employees, you'll go tell her what I just told you to protect her career, not my career, not the boss's career.

Starting point is 00:36:04 So you're not a company person. You're a person that's protecting people that are helping you, not me. Totally, now I know. Make sense? But we can still coexist. It's uncomfortable, it's weird, but Trump knows how to do this. Anybody that's ran a big organization knows you don't have 100% of 100% of people. You're delusional if you do.

Starting point is 00:36:26 If you think and expect that from everybody, you will build a very small organization. Now, here's how this also works. So you'll have people in the military. What's the highest level of secret clearance you got? TS. TS was like top secret. What's higher than that? It's like different levels of TS, but it's up there. What level of top secret levels are they? Can you pull it up?

Starting point is 00:36:47 Like I know it's TS with like no like boundaries or something on it. Then there's just secret. Then there's like classified. There's a- Then there's like men in black. But what are the levels? Okay. Are there levels? I guarantee there's definitely- Yeah, there's definitely levels. New secret clearance, six, eight months for a new top secret clearance. So sensitive complement that CSI. So there you go. So what's the point?

Starting point is 00:37:11 In your team, as it gets more secret stuff that you're working on, the room gets what? Smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller. RFK, if he's on the camp, he may be in the third room or the fourth room or the fifth room, but there's no way he's on the ninth room where the room is only three people. So yes, R.F.K. has got a place on the team. He just doesn't have it in the room. Say you and I talk about something that happened. Say the five of us have a call together.

Starting point is 00:37:45 Okay? After the five of us have a call together, then two of us have a call together. Then after two of us have a call together, then what happens? One of us have a call together. That one is the highest secret clearance. He won't be that because of what he did with the recording. However, he's still got a big job to play.

Starting point is 00:38:07 So, you know, RFK, if I'm RFK and I'm going from nine to four, I fully believe he's a true believer. Till today, nothing's changed with me on the way I view him. I think he's a full-blown true believer. I think the RFK father and the brother stuff that you see is 100% true. I think he can't stand what Fauci did. I think he can't stand what CDC did. I think he can't stand any of that stuff that took place. And I think he wants to finish his job, get in there and do something about it. But unfortunately, the toughest thing to realize sometimes is guess what?

Starting point is 00:38:41 America doesn't want you as the president right now. Not majority. And you may think you'd make a hell of a good one, but that's not how a free market works. Guess what? Who's the number one podcast in the world? Why is that? Because the market wants to listen to it. Because the market's saying that. Some people will say, we're the number one podcast in the world, according to who, your mother? According to your wife? According to your girlfriend?

Starting point is 00:39:10 Because according to the numbers, Joe Rogan's the number one podcast in the world. The market dictates where you rank, not you. And it's tough for RFK to choose that. Some people are role players. When Carmelo Anthony and AI and Westbrook, and the only guy who had the brass to eventually say his name was Paul George, who runs one of the best podcasts out there, with Dallas Rutherford, the son of an incredible man whom I love that family. Paul George, we all know Paul George.

Starting point is 00:39:39 One of the best players of all time. The guy broke his freaking leg on the Indiana Pacers. You're like, he's done. Comes back and whoops some major ass. You know what he said in the interview? I can never win a championship as a number one. What? You've been the best player on every team you've played your entire career until you

Starting point is 00:39:55 go with Kwai Leonard and you said you can't win a championship as a number one? He's right. RFK can't win a championship as a number one. And I hate to say at first I thought maybe he's gonna break some stuff But he's gonna kind of break some barriers and get through it I think he needs the right person to make a call to only one camp That he can play a lot of impact and hopefully he can increase his trust level with Trump without having one of those incidents happen

Starting point is 00:40:17 Again, there's one thing with Trump is he may come after you but I think Trump's also quick to forgive and move on Because he's had to do that for his entire Life and he's had to expect other people to forgive him thoughts. I'll open it up anybody time I would say one thing both camps would be very smart to try to get this guy in their team Because if you look at 538 if you just want to use some cumul of data, he's he's trending at 5% Ross Perot was at what 19 19% in 92, Pat? Right? That's the highest third party.

Starting point is 00:40:48 We thought this guy was going to be a third party candidate, like trailblazer that we've never seen. This is the guy that's going to disrupt the election. But 5% is still 5%. You think 5% can sway the election one way or another? You betcha. So I think there's a, I won won't say zero a less than 1% chance that he does anything with the Democratic Party especially after that tweet where you just

Starting point is 00:41:11 Cooked them. I would give a 20% chance. He does something with Trump, but it has happened But it has to happen sooner than later I think he has to be intentional about it The right person needs to make the phone call and present the facts RFK needs to have the right person make the phone call Present the facts create the meeting and I swear to God if any of it gets leaked It's done It's done if any it has to be such a Yeah, that's a strategic that's a be very strategic teagery yeah, but but I think it's the right move for him if he's for the cause

Starting point is 00:41:47 If you're for your name and selling more books and all that other stuff stay in the race If you truly are FK are for the cause The right person's got to make the call to Trump's camp if you truly are for the cause and I think you are If you truly are for the cost, I agree with what you said And I still believe that there is a 20% chance that he reached out because health and human services He would be huge in his mind because he's a believer and he's fact-based He's got all this research and I believe he really wants to make an impact RFK

Starting point is 00:42:20 And I believe that I think there is a 20% chance that he reached out to the campaign to Kamala's campaign to Kamala's campaign and he wants to talk health and human services and I've seen the polling data the people that were moderate leaners on on the left just moderate leaners those independents went to Kamala on identity product. In other words, they weren't really full on independent with RFK Jr. You know what I mean? They were there. Well, I'm not voting for Biden, so I'll go with RFK Jr. Oh my gosh, we have this, this, oh, come on.

Starting point is 00:42:55 So they went back the other way. That's where he went from 8, 9% nationally, because it was, it was significant, and now it's back right within the norm that you would normally see. But that's why I think he did it and I think You know, i'll always i'll always think that because I think he's a true believer and he was trying to find a position Where he can make an impact. Okay, cool. All right, so musk trump do a Spaces together

Starting point is 00:43:23 First hour doesn't work. Media reacts. A false start, Newsom jumped on top of it begging for it. Look at what's going on here. X doesn't have bandwidth. Just like his campaign. Look what's going on. The last time this happened to Santas, his campaign failed. This time, Trump's campaign is going to fail and ba-ba-ba-ba-ba." Right. Okay, cool. So they finally do it. And it ends up being how long, Rob, do you have the exact timeline?

Starting point is 00:43:53 It was three hours and 16 minutes total with the delay. So imagine he sat there for three hours and 16 minutes. And what did he talk about? They talked about illegal immigration, they talked about what were you going to say before you were rudely interrupted by an assassination attempt, which was a funny line that Musk said. Record-breaking illegal immigration in any country, they talked about that. I beat him so bad, I won the election.

Starting point is 00:44:21 Okay, he's still kind of going back to election interference. Told China if you buy oil from Iran, you will not do any business with the U.S. Iran no longer has money for Hamas or Hezbollah at the time when he was negotiating. Now they got a bunch of money. Biggest threat isn't global warming, it's nuclear warming, which was very interesting when Musk kind of took the position of climate change and he's like, well, there's something going on there, but it's not the solution that they're taking. He kind of took that route. And there was a part where Trump said, look, I understand your company and the product

Starting point is 00:44:54 in Tesla and what you're doing, the car's a great car, but guess what? We still need gas-driven cars. And he kind of went through that. And by the way, Elon didn't correct him. Elon actually doubled down and said, you're right, there is a need for the oil and gas industry. That was very interesting on the way. This is why Elon's got, by the way, if Elon was a U.S. citizen, just check it off.

Starting point is 00:45:13 Just like be like, done. If that guy was a U.S. citizen. And then biggest threat, he has a low IQ 30 years ago. He's talking about Biden. He had a low IQ 30 years ago, although he may have no IQ today. All these lines that he says. You have a great product. That doesn't mean everyone should have an electric car, but I have to give you credit.

Starting point is 00:45:30 She's considered more progressive than Bernie Sanders, Kamala, Musk endorsed Trump, he started selling The Dream, etc., which was great. And by the way, if you remember a couple days ago on Twitter, this was the day when Trump got upset. Rob, can you go to Twitter on the tweet I had the day he got upset at Rogan and I posted something? And I said, focus on selling the dream like you did before. I think that's what I said.

Starting point is 00:45:55 Can you zoom in the one that's weird? There it is. But go lower than that. That's after he said it when I tweeted that. Go lower, go lower, go lower, lower, lower, go lower, lower, lower, lower, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Oh, that was the, yeah, that's what I said right there, Ken Magatrim. And this is where I talked about the fact that when he went after Rogan, and the main

Starting point is 00:46:21 message was, sell the dream. So at the end, I don't know if you guys caught it at the end, did you listen to the whole life? When he started selling the dream, it was a beautiful thing. He says, look, at the end of the day, America's about the dream. That's great that he's talking about the dream, but it was an incredible, incredible spectacle. Now, Megyn Kelly said it was boring. I don't know if you saw that.

Starting point is 00:46:43 Megyn Kelly said it was boring. Some people said he was rambling. Some people said he had a lisp. Some people said he had this thing going on. What was that lisp? How did you process it? Well, I actually, because I watched the whole thing. I just took a bunch of notes.

Starting point is 00:46:55 And I just, just off the rip, okay, he could talk off script about policy for hours. Okay, he's, how old is he right now, Robbie? 78? 78 year old dude. He's sitting there in that room and we've been in that room before. He was funny and I feel like him and Elon Musk have a great relationship and they have a mutual respect for each other. You can hear it through their conversation. Okay, I think Trump was authentic, transparent. This got him a bunch of new demographics. Think about all the people that you never thought. A billion impressions, Pat. Trump's promises, one of the biggest promises

Starting point is 00:47:29 that I love was getting rid of the Department of Education. That was one of the ones that hit me. And he goes, I'm going to give it to the states to deal with that. He wants to get rid of that department. He had a plan to utilize Trump, Elon and the upcoming administration we talked about. I think it was a win for him. It was a win for X, and I think, yeah, when do you get to sit down and listen to a president speak like that for two hours in however many minutes it was? You don't. I agree with a lot of that, and what I would add to that is, we heard an unscripted leader

Starting point is 00:47:58 talking. Bingo. And if some people think, oh, that was boring, would you rather have someone standing at a microphone just reading the teleprompter for five minutes and then walking off stage to her handlers? Not pointing anybody out here. And then avoid the media and not talk at all? No.

Starting point is 00:48:17 He went there and he was informed. He was engaging. He was funny. Maybe a little too acerbic on a couple things, name-calling. You should just stick to the policies and just let us know what you think But I thought it was I thought it was wonderful and and how many times in life have you said you know what? I never saw this side of them a friend the mother-in-law people like that Now all of a sudden you have a different vibe or a different meeting or a different engagement

Starting point is 00:48:41 And then wow I you know I really didn't see the side of them there's something I didn't know I'm glad I did and I think a lot of American voters that that's exactly how they felt. I disagree with you guys and I'll tell you why Pat if you did a video with Trump I'm sorry an interview with Trump what are the chances that you PBD on the PBD podcast would do audio only interview with Trump you what are the chances zero zero what are the chances that you would have zero short clips for people to watch and see each of these conversations in I'm curious in a way because I get to a point where you disagree with Vinny. So so okay.

Starting point is 00:49:28 So my point is, oh here it comes. Thanks for the Tom comedy out here, buddy. I'm going to just I'm going to start interrupting you every time we're going to go back to that princess crap if you don't shut up. At what point do I just slap an old man? I will not disrespect the, uh, this was a wasted opportunity because the, this Garner any new votes. This was great.

Starting point is 00:49:55 Three hours of Trump rambling with Elon. Amazing. I tuned in for the first hour. There was no audio. I left. I would love me and I'm sure there's a lot of people that feel as I would love to watch Some short clips. Here's a short clip of Elon and Trump talking about China. Yeah, here's a short clip. There was there was millions of short clips. Show me them

Starting point is 00:50:16 Rob has a bunch of them. It's all over Twitter. That's not that's not Musk's job Musk, yep, but is there but it was not it was just audio not visual. I don, yep. But is there, but it was not, it was just audio, not visual. I don't know. I'm a visual learner. Maybe this is just me. That's part of the reason that I got you too. You're going somewhere else with that. Let me, let me, let me, let me say a couple thoughts.

Starting point is 00:50:32 Do you have anything else to add outside of that? Is that where you were going with it? I'm just saying, I think it was great that they're having this conversation. Kamala would never do something like this, but to me it was, it could have been better. Yeah. So I think when you asked the first question was a would you ever do just Audio I said no, which ever zero would we had no short clips? No, but you have to realize, you know What is the biggest?

Starting point is 00:50:53 podcast in the world X Yeah, and you know how many editors Elon Musk has about 200 million And you know who those editors are viewers random. You know how many editors we got? Fifteen. So the only difference between us, we pay for our editors. He doesn't. They do it for free. He's got nonprofit editors, people who edit for him without him having to do it.

Starting point is 00:51:15 I don't know if you understand the point I'm trying to make. I do it all the time. Yeah. So matter of fact, we're all editors for, you know, if you kind of break that part down. Now this is kind of how I see it when I listen to this. And Megyn Kelly said, bored, blabbering, da-da-da-da, and all this other stuff. Look, go to Twitter, Robin, if you can pull up kind of what I said about it, but I'll add one other thing here to it.

Starting point is 00:51:36 So to me, I think there's a part where I can look at you and we work together here. And if all of a sudden I notice you're not good to give credit, you make it look like I came to recruit you instead of you come here, someone's in your ear. And someone's whispering to you that without you, Pat would never have PBD Podcast. No, no, but wait a minute. But let me tell you, I guarantee you've already gotten those calls.

Starting point is 00:52:12 If let's just say somebody comes to me and says, well, Pat, you realize without you, no one would ever know who Adam is. And somebody goes to Adam and says, and Adam, let me tell you, you're the only reasonable one. All the other ones, you know what they're all about. So there's no way no one gets these messages. Everybody's getting these messages and these calls. Same with Tom.

Starting point is 00:52:35 Tom, you're the smartest guy on the pod. I'm only tuning in to you. Tom's like, I am the smartest guy on the pod. Hey, Rob, you run this entire thing, just so you know. These other guys have no, I just wait for your commentary right Okay, with his pants on so so but but the moral the story is the following You know that's happening Who's the last person in this person's ear before they go to sleep and who's his corner?

Starting point is 00:52:58 The last phone call Trump makes is his campaign managers. What do they say? Let's roleplay the call. So you're Trump. Musk's live ends. You call. Do you think Trump's calling his best guys and his handlers to ask him what? First of all, what are the chances his campaign manager listened to it? From the video, somebody was sitting with him. That's not his guy, but it's one of his advisors. But what's the chances that lady listened to it? From the video, somebody was sitting with him. That's not his guy, but it's one of his advisors. But what's the chances that they listen to it? 100%? 100% right? The whole thing. If they're not in the room, but 100% they listen. Yeah for sure. Okay, what do you think Trump's asking afterwards? What the hell happened the first freaking

Starting point is 00:53:35 hour with the audio? Okay, okay. All right, that's one thing. He already asked that. How did I come across, did I hit all the points that I wanted to hit, did I sound stupid? He won't say that, but actually he said what he says. Yeah, like, did I come across? Did I hit all the points that I wanted to hit? Did I sound stupid? Did you know? He won't say that, but actually what he says. Yeah, did I hit everything that I was supposed to hit? Was there something that I should have done different that you guys could let me know? Okay. So now give me three different responses, three different handlers would give.

Starting point is 00:53:59 Well, if they're the yes, man, it's just like you were perfect. It was flawless. You know, you couldn't have done any better. Another opinion would have been like, listen, you were good. But at some point, you just kept repeating yourself about certain issues. And you should have driven it home and more and change the subject. And the other guy could have been like, you know, he should have been more vicious. You should have been.

Starting point is 00:54:17 I'm just saying that for Nang. You're a reasonable guy. What would you say? So I think there's probably two sets of people in the room of any candidate. And you have the ones who are not the leaders among the strategists. But they're in the room, right? To your point, like the nine people. Oh man, you were great.

Starting point is 00:54:31 Don't worry about that. Don't worry about the glitch at the beginning because you got on there and went after it. You broke a record. You broke a record. You made the points, blah, blah, blah, blah. So you have all the people that are kind of yes people and they're there to kind of prop you up and push. And then you'll have, you know, like the Cory Lee induced

Starting point is 00:54:46 Different prancing low and LSD Lohen Dahl ski back in the day He would have sat there and says, you know, I could have been this it could have been that and he's constructive And that's that was his rep his rep was one-on-one Constructive I'm hoping there is a person like that in there and then then there would have been the person who's worried about perfection. Oh, I can't believe it. We started late. We went a little long on these things. But I think there's a lot of people who are going to be really careful about giving the

Starting point is 00:55:13 candidate feedback. But I think there's going to be a mix in there. But I think there's going to be a lot of yes people. Yeah. Well, what do you think Kellyanne Conway would say? She would say, I think it was a great three hours. We got the most out of it. We touched the voters.

Starting point is 00:55:27 The glitches, this system, don't even worry about that. We can hit this, this, and this. I think she would have been right down the middle. Okay, so maybe let me ask the question in a different way. Maybe let me ask the question a different way. How much of it is the conversations you have pre the life? How much of it is debriefing after the life? This is an ad by BetterHelp.

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Starting point is 00:56:49 Let me ask you a question one more time. Hang on. Hear me out. Hear me out what I'm saying. I hear you. How much of a successful live is the pre-live versus debriefing after the live? The pre is so much more important. That's the point. So much more important important and I trust Kellyanne to be

Starting point is 00:57:08 Bomb, so let me ask you question pre live What is a good pre live preparer do? Go through all the points all the points that you want to talk about all the campaign strategy What we're doing here with the richest man in the world and the biggest platform in the world. Don't blow it. Okay. Filter and focus. Yeah, filter and focus.

Starting point is 00:57:30 But remember who we're talking about. We're talking about Donald Trump. How much of the advice? You have to be careful of what you tell him because he is who he is. What do you mean careful? No, I mean, I mean, what do we do? We filter, we focus, we talk about angles and we have our perspective. We respect our audience through preparations. Yeah, no we focus, we talk about angles, and we have our perspective. We respect

Starting point is 00:57:45 our audience through preparation. Yeah, no, I agree. So here's, here's, I wrote three things down, okay? How much of what Trump said was what Trump said? How much of it was what the market is challenging Trump on to overcome those objections? How much of it was his advisors? So what was the first one? So Trump, criticism, advisors. How much of it was his advisors? Let me say the first one so Trump criticism advisors

Starting point is 00:58:07 I mean, I think Trump Pat. He's at 80% he's going 80% 80% Okay, how much is critics? I was 70 2010. You're 70 2010. Where you at? 80 and was the last one critics advisors advisors 80 to 10 15 and 15 for the advisors giving advice and the rest is going the other way around Okay, Adam. This is what Trump wants to say what him respond what Trump said on the live How much of it was Trump how much of it was his critics? How much of it was these advisers 90% Trump and then distribute the five ten percent? However, you want to I actually think it's more 80 15 Critics five and then five advisors.

Starting point is 00:58:45 Meaning he's not listening to anyone. And the reason, can I speculate? Yeah, got it. So we're in the same direction. Hold on Tom. Can I speculate why you've already alluded to Kellyanne Conway three times in the podcast, even though her name is not anywhere on here, is because he needs a Kellyanne Conway. Quick, think about it real quick. Who's the one person in Trump's orbit right now that he will listen to as advice, counsel, advice, President Trump? This is what you should be doing. Well, Don Jr. Don Jr.

Starting point is 00:59:15 We know the influence Don Jr. had on the bench. I think he listens to Don Jr. for sure. That's not named Trump. In the current campaign. for sure. That's not named Trump. Kelly Ann Conway joins the chorus of Republicans urging Trump to back off the Harrison soul. Bingo. But she's not part of the campaign. Who's part of the campaign right now that legitimately- Look at her look. What look is that? You know what look that is? It's the exact look you want for that person. And by the way, you know how much credit she wants? This much. This is how much credit she wants.

Starting point is 00:59:45 But she wants some money. When I'm telling you this is how much credit she wants, the market's going to give her plenty of credit. But she's a stud. We're on the same page here, but she's not on the team. So answer this question. Who's on the team right now that he actually will listen to? His sons for sure. That's not named Donald Trump Jr. Name the name. I don't know anybody.r. Oh name the name. I don't know anybody exactly Yeah, that's my point. I don't know his team everybody even Pat everybody that somebody you saw you said the story you gave earlier about

Starting point is 01:00:13 RFK nine people in a room five people in a room two people in a room one purpose room Who's the one person in the room? This is mr. Trump Here's what you could have done better straight up. It would have to be her. If it's her, why isn't she on the team? The reason why it has to be a person like that is because it has to be a person that doesn't have to brag afterwards of what they did. Guess who told gave him that line?

Starting point is 01:00:40 Guess who told him to say that? You don't want that person. It needs to be someone that is, boom, I got it. I'm good. This is my role. This is what I'm doing. So anyways, for me, the right, the point I was trying to make to you guys was the following. This whole score that we went through, which is what?

Starting point is 01:00:57 Trump critics, advisors, this is how it works. Mr. President, here's a one pager I gave you. Here's a phone. Here's a battery recorder on the bottom, here's the bullet points to hit, your points to hit, here's what the critics are saying, hit this, avoid this, stick to these stats, here's this. Boom. Okay, all right. So look, da da da da da, check.

Starting point is 01:01:20 Da da da da da, da da da da da da, da da da da da da. Now, no matter how much anybody says about what happened, Rob, go to Twitter on what I said about Trump's Twitter spaces. No matter what anybody can say about what happened. This is where it comes down to me. Stamina is by far the most intimidating quality an opponent can have. President Trump's level of stamina is second to none. He's doing the call East Coast time, which means he was at Mar-a-Lago, which means it's

Starting point is 01:01:44 almost 11pm. He's been going almost for three hours including the delay. As a founder of a few businesses, one thing I can tell you founders have as an edge over their peers is their relentless energy to keep going way past their opponents slowing down or stopping. There's nothing more annoying than an opponent that has unlimited supply of energy. It's annoying, it's intimidating, it's frustrating and quite frankly causes the type of envy that words can't describe. Your enemies are hoping you slow down. They secretly hope for you to get sick or something happens to cause you to slow down.

Starting point is 01:02:11 Here are ten questions to help your decision of who to vote for. One, how many interviews has Kamala done? Two, how many three-hour podcasts has Obama, Kamala and Biden ever done? Why not? Is it because it's risky? Do you as a voter prefer one that's willing to openly speak on a live with zero scripts or teleprompters? Would you prefer all being calculated and scripted?

Starting point is 01:02:29 Who would you like to have negotiate on your behalf for the investment you're making, your taxes? Whose energy would you like if a war breaks out in the middle of the night? Someone only who will work six hours a day or someone who is the real life energizer bunny. Who do you trust doing more good for your money? High taxes, money to the government, low taxes, money in people's hands. Who do you think your enemies want to see win the election?

Starting point is 01:02:55 A leader who's relentless and constantly moving or one that's low energy and flip flops half the time? Vote accordingly. So to me, you freaking kidding me? I love number 10, by the way. To me it's like, yeah, okay. Shit hits the fan at 3 o'clock in the morning. What percentage of America is asleep?

Starting point is 01:03:19 If a war breaks out at 3 o'clock in the morning, what percentage of America is asleep? Because 3 o'clock Eastern Standard Time is midnight. Actually go 340 million people. What percentage of people, Americans living in America, do you think is asleep at 3 o'clock in the morning? 80%. 80%? Okay.

Starting point is 01:03:36 What do you think? You think it's 80%, Tom? 20% are working? 90%? Yeah, I think it's 85-90%. 80-90. Let's say 90% asleep. Somebody's working emergency rooms, but you add it all up.

Starting point is 01:03:47 85% of America is in bed. 85-90%. You have a phone call to make. President Trump, President Harris, President Biden. Who do you think is going to be the fastest to get up, go make a decision and boom, let's go? Trump. Trump. Period. They're And even close. Sorry.

Starting point is 01:04:05 Okay. And it's not just speed, who do I trust at that hour to be processing and be America first and focus? Can Donald Trump win the election without Kellyanne Conway on his team? I don't know, we're about to find out in 80 days. We're about to find out in 80 days, because you know what, Rogan had a,

Starting point is 01:04:24 he said some thoughts about Kamala Did you guys see this? Rogan don't watch this Rob play this clip Rob. I just texted it You know else is up at the you know, which clip I'm talking about Tom I don't take so I just text you if I have it. Let me find it. Yeah If you just happen Rogan Kamala, it'll come up. I think he's wearing a black shirt Rogan Kamala No, just don't go all the way around you want Kamala, Atlanta. Just go Rogan Kamala no just don't go all the way around you want come on Atlanta just go Rogan Kamala. Look what Bob said. Rogan Kamala. Right there watch this. That's a problem. That's a problem and I don't think they thought she was gonna be able to do that.

Starting point is 01:04:57 That's the thing. You can fucking coach somebody bro. It ain't hard I mean maybe she just practice. Who are these coaches? there's public speakers and stuff yeah public speaking coaches yeah there's political speech analysts there's people that magic there's teaching people how to David Lucas gets hired to give her like some one-liners listen I mean there's a crazy world where there's shit like that where there's somebody goes you need a couple zingers in your back pocket I don't know hundred percent that's not your world in your brain doesn't operate like that Trump's does Trump is looking at like know, to make a little put down or he's just quick in that

Starting point is 01:05:29 way. Listen, he is quick in that way. Also, it would behoove him to hire a few great comics to just tour with them and just write one-liners about all these different fucking people. I mean, if he could remember them. I mean, I know he likes to go off his own head, but if he could remember a few Hinchcliffe bangers, if he hires Hinchcliffe to take him on the road.

Starting point is 01:05:50 Do you know how fucking insane that would be? Hinchcliffe writing bangers for Trump to shit on people with? Comedy cures, and it also is like sometimes what kind of just pushes things over the top, dude. Okay, you know why I love what Rogan says here? What do you think about what he's saying here? What's he saying here? Get some help and get some strategy. Yeah. What he's saying is that Kamala can win. Of course. That's what he's saying. He's saying that too. It's the initial one. I'm like disgusted and shocked,

Starting point is 01:06:22 but also completely understand. She's currently now favored to win the election. But how? Look at Vegas. How though? You know, how? How we can spend a... No, but you're right. But that's the reality.

Starting point is 01:06:36 Yeah, but it's absolutely... We don't have to spend an hour to think of anything. Think about the actual fact is don't ever underestimate the power of the media. MSNBC, everybody, by the way, nobody wants to vote for Kamala. They have to vote for her. That's it. It's not Trump, Kamala, and they're doing a fantastic job. Bro, you have to take your hats off.

Starting point is 01:06:57 She doesn't have to talk to anybody. Why would you let her talk to anybody? Leave her exact, just like when Joe Biden, when COVID hit, keep him in the basement. We already got it. We're already going to do what we have to do to make everybody vote from home. That's it. You're not seeing an election right now. You're seeing a marketing campaign. Big time. We've got other stories here about polling and other stuff that we'll get to, but. Yeah. Remember the. But it's brilliant what they're doing. What is polls telling us, Tom? Well, there's a couple of things that are going on right now. You want me to read the Rasmussen and then go to it?

Starting point is 01:07:27 Yeah, if that's, we're rolling off that. Yeah, let's get right to it. What page is the Rasmussen one? What's that, 22 or something? Is that where it's at? I don't think it's the 22 one. I think it is. There it is.

Starting point is 01:07:36 Election 2024, Trump 49%, Kamala 44%, RFK 3%. This is Rasmussen report. As of August 8th is Rasmussen report. As of August 8th is what the numbers are. So let me see if anything's changed from here. And there's a new one that came out with Pew as well. So here we go. Former President Donald Trump has maintained his lead over Vice President Kamala Harris

Starting point is 01:08:00 and his support for RFK. The latest Rasmussen poll has a two-way matchup, 49% of voters vote for Trump, 44 Harris, 4% to RFK. These findings are nearly unchanged from a week ago, which was a second survey since President Joe Biden. Rob, what are those polls today? What are the numbers saying? Tom, what are you seeing on the market with the polls?

Starting point is 01:08:22 So there's a couple things that are going on today. And the first thing is that the Kamala bounce is subsiding and it's really only one to two points nationally. But the media is pushing this AstroTurf campaign very hard. And there's a number of pollsters that are lining up as AstroTurf salesmen. Take a look here. This is the number of polls per week that were released. So why is it that on 11 August 18th August 11th, why are the number of polls going down? The number of polls released. It's because of this. When the

Starting point is 01:09:00 polling data fits the media narrative, the polls get released. When the polling data fits the media narrative, the polls get released. When the polling data doesn't fit the media narrative, the pollsters are holding back. And right now the pollsters are holding back because the Kamala bounce is subsiding and it's settling in at one to two point on the national level. But remember, national level is like time of possession in a football game. That's not where the scoreboard is. The scoreboard is the electoral college because the states are the touchdowns and field goals. That's how this is going to be settled. And

Starting point is 01:09:31 right now there are three truths. Number one, Kamala's how to bounce. It's legitimate and there's enthusiasm over there, but it's not as bad as it looks. Truth number two, the pollsters are becoming media outlets. And truth number three, the Trump campaign has been kind of flat-footed on a more optimal response. All those three things are true. So what's your point? What we see here is that right now on a national basis, this has tightened up, but it's not Kamala 5, it's not Kamala 6, it's not Kamala eight. Those polls are BS. And by the way, Quinnipac is completely out of their mind. They regurgitated and re-released

Starting point is 01:10:11 the poll. Remember those are the guys that said the day before they ran the last two polls in the last election and they had Georgia eight, Georgia 10 for Biden and it was razor thin and it took maybe some midnight madness to actually go the other way. But they were Georgia 8, Georgia 10. It says Pew hasn't even been doing presidential polling like this and suddenly they're running to the microphone. It is an astroturf campaign by the pollsters. But the truth is this is narrowed up and a group that is moving, there is a group moving and it's those independent women that you can't, to Kellyanne Conway's point, if you're going to criticize and be personal with Kamala Harris, you're going to lose these women.

Starting point is 01:10:54 But right now the polling, I'm waiting for stuff to come back up that is more balanced. Oh, I read, I read- Tom, what's your point, dude? I mean, what are you doing here? I wanted to, dude? I went into the, I went into the, what are you doing here? Oh, you're trying so hard, you little bitch. You know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, Tom, what you have.

Starting point is 01:11:12 Tom, you're the smartest guy in the room. You're rambling on and on and on about that. It's a tight race. Maybe it sounds like rambling to you. Tom, no shit. Give us the, what's your point? Open the textbooks, baby. So you have right now two things that are very, very, very, very true.

Starting point is 01:11:29 Has a nerd ever called you like a little bitch in your life? Anybody? It's just so... No, but if I imagine it's something you're used to. Oh my God. So basically it's not as bad as it looks, but the Trump campaign needs to pick it up a little bit and the pollsters are acting like media outlets and there's a lot of BS that's happening out in these polls.

Starting point is 01:11:50 A lot. Never. No, great. Tom, you killed it, man. Great job. You just broke down the entire race and saying, hey, it's a close race. Great job. Sick one.

Starting point is 01:12:02 Did you want to say something? No, it just, I mean. He killed it. Then, Alices analysis was that spot on for you. Hey guys, breaking news. It's a tight race. All right. Here's some stats to show it. Great.

Starting point is 01:12:13 Let's go to the next one since you guys are so excited about it. Okay. Whistleblower Tulsi Gabbard named on TSA Quiet Skies Watchlist. Let me read this and Vinnie, I'm coming to you. So former Congresswoman Tulsi has reportedly been named under Transportation Security Administration Quiet Sky's watch list whistleblowers within the Federal Marshals Service of Criminals subjecting her to the same surveillance used against suspected terrorists. Gabbard a lieutenant in the US Army, reserved and a fierce critic of Biden administration

Starting point is 01:12:40 has unknowingly had two explosive detection K-9 teams, one transportation security specialist explosives, one plain clothes TSA supervisor, and three Federal Air Marshals on every flight she boarded since being added to the list. The whistleblower reports first shared with Sonia Lobosco, the executive director of Air Marshall National Security Council, determined that Gabbard was added to the Quiet Skies list on July 23, 2024, one day after she criticized Biden, Kamala Harris, and overall security state during an interview with Laura Ingraham. Vinny.

Starting point is 01:13:16 Okay, so I mean, first and foremost, I want people to understand what you just said, Pat. That means once she's put on this Quiet Skies list, every time she goes on a flight, there has to be a, let me find where you said it, PBD. She has to have three federal air marshals on every flight that she goes on, okay? Even terrorists don't get this type of attention. There has to be like seven people involved with her,

Starting point is 01:13:43 and I just, do you to show what she actually said so I can get into it. Rob, can you show what she was on the angle? And this is, guys, pay attention. If you criticize the military industrial complex and Kamala Harris, and you say Kamala Harris is dangerous to our democracy, this is, the Department of Homeland Security

Starting point is 01:14:03 is going to tap you for the rest of your life. Rob, play this club, let them see it. I'm more interested, Laura, in what the American people are thinking. I've been seeing headline after headline saying, well, what is Kamala Harris's foreign policy going to be? And then you were reminded by these examples of how inexperienced and lacking

Starting point is 01:14:25 of knowledge and strength that she is. So to answer that question, what kind of commander in chief will she be? What kind of foreign policy will she have? We simply need to look at the facts of what we've seen under the Biden-Harris administration. They are not running our foreign policy. Our foreign policy decisions are being made

Starting point is 01:14:43 by unelected people in the military industrial complex who are profiting from us being in a constant state of war and the national security state that has more power to undermine our freedoms and liberties when we are in a state of war. Kamala Harris does not have the strength to stand up to the military industrial complex. Okay, you can stop it right now. I hope you guys are paying that. That's all she said. It goes on for a little bit more time. Nothing more, nothing less than what she just said.

Starting point is 01:15:12 The Department of Homeland Security put her on a domestic terrorist watch list. And for the people out there that don't know a little bit about Tulsi Gabbard, she's an active duty Lieutenant Colonel Pat in the United States Army. She was deployed in Iraq during the war 2004. She was assigned to a field medical unit in a combat zone. Guys, not just hanging out and nothing's going on, in a combat zone and received a combat medal badge for service under enemy fire. Okay, she was basically there trying to help us fight terrorists and she comes here and she criticizes them and she's on the terror watch list and you want to talk about weaponized legal system top

Starting point is 01:15:48 the same thing that's happening with her is exactly what they've been doing to Donald Trump am I right yeah you're taking parts of the US government and throwing at your opponent yeah there's there's absolutely no matter to the list the moment that this happened I guess August day July yeah no no so the whistleblower was added 1st, July 23rd, 2024. So this just happened. And July 23rd was Kamala already the presumptive nominee at that point? I'm pretty sure. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:16:18 Can I give you my little two cents? Yeah, and I'm almost done. But think of this, Adam. Just on a security level, we talked about it on The unusuals where you know it's not gonna be there forever but do you understand the mental screw that it does to her because for the rest like by the way I don't know if she's suing Rob do you check if she's suing the she's suing them for doing this for the rest of her life Adam her phone she's always gonna be questioning are they listening to me are they watching my

Starting point is 01:16:41 family if I'm flying who is that person are they? Like, do you understand what type of disrespect? And again, Alejandro Mayorkas and the Department of Homeland Security, there's enough shit. We have terrorists, actual terrorists, walking over our border. Remember, they don't know the number. We caught 150, but God knows how many are here. We had that one guy, Tom, that came over, remember, and he was like this, soon you will know who my name is. These are actual actual terrorists and you take an

Starting point is 01:17:07 active-duty lieutenant colonel and put her on this list. Shame on all of you, every single one of you and the people that let them put her on this list. Shame on you they should freaking resign. One whistleblower came out. Where the rest of you? Unbelievable. So let me, so who runs TSA? This guy named David Pekoski. David Pekoski became the president of TSA under Trump in 2017 and was reconfirmed for second term September of 2022. He leads a workforce of 60,000 agents, 440 airports. Under his leadership TSA, during his tenure,SA, Pekosky also served as the department Homeland Security and Acting Secretary from

Starting point is 01:17:53 January 20 to February 20, 2022. Rob, can you find out who Pekosky reports to? So who does TSA report to? Is it my orcas? Probably Peter Jennings, Rob. Well, yeah, no, I mean, Adam, it's funny, but you're right. And also, Pat, while you're looking, the TSA has stated it doesn't- Oh, there you go. Under the direction of the Secretary of Department of Homeland Security.

Starting point is 01:18:11 So it's myorkis. That's exactly who it is. And then there you go. So TSA is under myorkis. So myorkis forced David, who got the job by by Trump to put Tulsi on the list. Very interesting. But it's not going to slow her down. No, no. Because I'll just say this one thing. Is there a bigger threat to Kamala's campaign than A, the person who literally made her suspender campaign in 2020 when she annihilated her on stage, than a female of color veteran?

Starting point is 01:18:42 No, not veteran active duty active duty, but you know, you know, yeah. Part of the military soldier reserves. So congress person. Oh by the way, who was a former Democrat who ran for president in 2020. She has all the check marks. Boom, boom, boom. She's like the credible established sensible Nikki Haley. Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

Starting point is 01:19:05 And Kamala Harris. And you know what? Like she's a viable candidate. But you know what? That's who she is. So everyone else that is not her is like, oh, we got to silence this woman. Of course. Because she's that girl.

Starting point is 01:19:16 And the biggest problem is Pat, Army, Air Force, she's Army, Reservoir, she's still in the Army. We signed, we swore an oath to protect this country from enemies foreign and domestic and what people don't understand is that domestic word to me is more of a threat than the foreign one it's when the people that are here this deep state that we always hear that people are like you guys are conspiracy theorists you understand what it has to happen for somebody to hear that in the deep state Alejandro Mayorkas to say hey guys

Starting point is 01:19:45 Monitor her she's a terrorist She's a potential domestic terrorist And if she if you guys hear one thing on her phone if you see one thing Grab her ass and we're gonna make an example out of her You're gonna such bullshit because she went through this the same exact thing when she was a quote-unquote Russian asset When she basically criticized Hillary Clinton. Yeah. And then that's how she had to basically navigate her campaign as a quote-unquote Russian asset. So we've seen this before. But it's not cool. A lot of times, you know, the Tulseys of

Starting point is 01:20:18 the world, the RFK juniors of the world, these are former Democrats who basically had a peek behind the curtain. They're like, oh, this is swampy in here. Yeah. Same thing that I mean, basically Trump is doing on the right. Yeah. It speaking truth to power is necessary. And that's why someone like Tulsi is so respected. Yep. Along podcast and free thinker type communities, but on the mainstream media, she'll be lambasted. But and just have a little fun fact, the TSA states it does not take race or religion into account when enrolling individuals in this Quiet Skies program, but they fail to mention if they do it for political affiliation. That is unbelievable.

Starting point is 01:20:56 And Rob, did you find out if she's suing them? I couldn't find anything, but there is an investigation into why she was put on the watch last week. By the way, this is a mic drop moment of Tulsi against Kamala, where it got Kamala to leave, endorse Biden, become the VP. Go ahead, Rob. As a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president, but I'm deeply concerned about this record.

Starting point is 01:21:15 There are too many examples to cite, but she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana. She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so. She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California and she fought to keep cash bail system in place. That impacts poor people in the worst kind of way. When you are in a position to make a difference and an impact in these people's lives, you did not.

Starting point is 01:21:50 And worse yet, in the case of those who are on death row, you actually blocked evidence from being revealed that would have freed them until you were forced to do so. There is no excuse for that. And the people who suffered under your reign as prosecutor, you owe them an apology. What is the likelihood? What is the likelihood that she remembers this clip, she's worried that Tulsi's going to get louder, that she was involved in calling my orcas to silence Tulsi? What's the likelihood of that happening? 30%?

Starting point is 01:22:22 High probability. Pretty high. 30-40? High probability. And I think it's an even higher probability that the puppeteers that are over her campaign that helped orchestrate the shift away from Biden because they don't want to lose power, that they dropped the dime. Yeah. Let me tell you something. By the way, what she said was all facts.

Starting point is 01:22:41 Think about this. Do you remember on this exact same debate stage, what Kamala said about Joe Biden to his face? Racist white guy. She's basically like, I was that girl on that bus. Yeah, you racist. I was busted. So here she is just basically calling it like she sees it, accurate, because all these stories of Kamala and now she's on this terror watch list.

Starting point is 01:23:03 Unbelievable. Kamala plays the game, does the DEI checkmate game. Boom, look at her playing her role, even though she basically did the exact same thing that Tulsi did to Kamala, that Kamala did to Biden, the exact same thing. Hey, listen, we're going to need a DEI candidate. You're going to need to play ball. Who knows? In four years, you could be the president.

Starting point is 01:23:22 Wow. Boom. Yeah. Look at this. Remember this? Don't forget this. I was actually very, it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. And it was not only that,

Starting point is 01:23:46 but you also worked with them to oppose busing. Just the identity politics game of calm. Do you hear Tulsi Gabbard doing the identity politics game? She could do that game. She could play that game. She doesn't have to. She doesn't have to. This is, it's so disgusting to me.

Starting point is 01:24:05 And this is why even as annoying and just sort of shooting himself in the foot constantly as Trump is, why I would definitely vote for Trump over someone like Kamala. But this is the reason Kamala's favored right now. She's playing that DEI identity politics game and it's disgusting. Leaders have been using agencies of our government since the dawn of time. I mean, how many books have been written about LBJ and the CIA? So we don't need term limits, we need jail. I think so.

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Starting point is 01:25:48 Now with internet. Need some audio, Rob. It's not so much a support thing. We're back a little bit, Rob. We didn't hear the first five seconds. But watching what's happened in Silicon Valley is insane. Right. Right.

Starting point is 01:26:04 It's not so much a support thing. It's more like a takeover thing, trying to put themselves in a position to have as much control as possible. They want Trump to be the CEO of the United States of America. Let it continue, because there's one that specifically him call on, let it play, Rob. They want to be the board of directors

Starting point is 01:26:19 that makes him listen to them. It's not a good thing. What is the ethos? Because it seems like in the old days of innovation, there was a certain amount of we're innovating the internet, we're taking things. Now it seems much more about sort of this social engineering and transhumanism.

Starting point is 01:26:38 And we are going to join with computers. And together, eight of us are going to run everything. Dominic, right? Yeah. Is that the ethos you see? Yeah, I think. I'm gonna go with yeah. You just said yeah.

Starting point is 01:26:54 So here's Mark Cuban on another clip, Rob. I just send it to you as well if you want to find it. This one is, it's a lightweight. This wasn't a big deal. And so Pat, John Stewart's show, is he on all the time? No, he's not. He does Mondays.

Starting point is 01:27:04 Okay, gotcha. So if the time? No, he's not You can rob there's a clip specific that's the main one that went viral Rob. It's a clip. I just texted you can find it on Twitter You don't need to go over there. Just type in Musk Cuban tap in Cuban and Musk and you should see it. That's the one so this is about him going straight after Elon I think this is the one go ahead This is about him going straight after Elon. I think this is the one. Go ahead. Look at Elon, right? Elon and being one of those powerful people,

Starting point is 01:27:30 he's trying to be the most influential man in the world. It sounds like a commercial, but literally that's what Twitter has given him. I've gotta say, I think he might be that. I don't even think he's trying to be. When you talk about somebody who is setting up satellite links for war zones and also controlling discourse in the most important media platform, I would think he is the most

Starting point is 01:27:52 powerful. Because Twitter is in almost every country, right? And so Twitter gives him the ability to connect to the prime minister, the head of every country in the world. That's right. And that person, whoever is in charge of that country, has an interest in what happens on Twitter. And what happens on Twitter, because of the control the algorithm's being the biggest

Starting point is 01:28:10 user, is all dependent on Elon Musk. He literally, wherever his thumb wants to go, he gets to push his heart and legs. And he certainly, I mean, he's transparent about where he wants things to go. I think he's very clear that civil war is inevitable. Right. I mean, concerning. Right. It's, it's, you know, it'll be like, civil war is inevitable and then he'll write underneath there. Hmm. You know. Kind of an understatement on there. But, I can't, I can't decide whether or not it's better to know

Starting point is 01:28:42 exactly where he stands and know where he's going to be put the thumb on. Because he's not, he's clearly a very bright guy. And he has a media empire that has the largest reach and most influence of anything on the face of the earth. And there's no question he's going to leverage it in this election. No question. But the crazy part is he has more impact globally than he does domestically, in my opinion, right?

Starting point is 01:29:05 Because when you go on X, you see a preponderance of right-leaning people. You don't see a lot of... They're all over my For You. I've never clicked on any of these f***ing things. Well, that's the whole thing. That's the way algorithms work, right? What? Yes!

Starting point is 01:29:18 They do the opposite of what I want? Yes! When somebody tells them, when you write an algorithm, I haven't written a lot, it's been a while, but when you write one, you get to set the parameters of what you want. Yes. When somebody tells me when you write an algorithm, I haven't written a lot. It's been a while. But when you write one, you get to set the parameters of what you want to see happen. And he certainly has done that to the things he likes. But it's different than other platforms. And the good news is what 20% of adults in the United States are on Twitter. So I mean, there's 80% who aren't there. But isn't this a certain amount of tech bro malpractice that there is this incredible

Starting point is 01:29:46 uh... need in the marketplace of something that is slightly less uh... what he says he buys a little more low-level reds toxic when it comes to their hands and it was a moment came out with threads and you're on for two seconds you like i think i need a nap no i like threads reds is getting better tried to get it here something that doesn't sell online. No, it's getting better. Tom. So I disagree with a couple angles in there. It's like, you're trying to say that somehow Elon Musk is the largest lobbyist, and he's dangerous, but only 20% of American adults are using it. Which way are you going to be, Mark?

Starting point is 01:30:25 I mean, which way is the criticism? And by the way, you don't think that Zuckerberg and others are doing the same thing and getting called out for that in the same way? You know, I don't know. I think that was kind of a softball by Jon Stewart, even though he called it out kind of jokingly there at the end. I don't have much. Mark Cuban, I don't think he likes Elon Musk at all because Elon Musk is bigger, better, and the guy spent how many billions of dollars to give us a platform

Starting point is 01:30:56 that, yeah, okay, some people are on there saying some stuff. 44. 44 billion dollars, okay. And yeah, people are saying mean things, but he gave it to us so that everybody and everybody could speak and I'm pretty Sure a lot of people out there had friends when we were complaining about all the censorship and all the FBI and Twitter and everything And what what did all the people on the left say? Well, if you don't like it go ahead and buy your own Well, guess what one of ours bought it so we could say whatever the hell we want I think they're all just hate them period Adam

Starting point is 01:31:21 Mark Cuban is an interesting guy man the evolution of Mark Cuban so Mark Cuban is what? 65 66 years old I want to say it looks great So I think he bought the Dallas Mavericks in 2000 so he's been in the Public eye for 25 years now fact check me on this how old is he 65 66? What is he sex boom? He's a looker what year Did he buy the Mavericks? 2000 give or take just 99 okay, so stud one year off

Starting point is 01:31:52 This guy maybe you're right. Maybe you're right because it says he sold his Shares in 99 for 5.7 billion, and then he bought the Mavs Sometime, but so basically he's 65 66 years old he bought the Maavs sometime back in 2000. Basically, he's 65, 66 years old. He bought the Mavericks in 2000, so he's had 25 years in the spotlight. Nobody knew who this tech pro was before he bought the Mavericks. What's interesting about Mark Cuban is this guy was the rebel without a cause of the NBA. I don't know if there's another owner in the NBA like him now, or possibly ever, that was animated on the sidelines getting fined

Starting point is 01:32:25 every single game, fighting with refs, fighting with other fans. This guy was active. So now then, you know, the, the, the evolution of Mark Cuban, they won a championship in 2010. Boom, he starts doing the shark tank thing. Shark Tank's been a number one show on, uh, CNBC for, you for a decade plus. What's his next move? What's his next move? I think politically, I know Pat, you have a lot to say on this. You've interviewed Mark.

Starting point is 01:32:52 You've exchanged a lot of things online, but something tells me Mark Cuban's got his eye on something and a lot of it is leaning towards politics. What do you think, PBD? These are my thoughts. It's one of two things that Musk, Cuban is doing, his attacks on Trump and Musk. One, he's either plotting his next big move to buy CNN, buy media platform, since he's just recently sold a big chunk of maps or campaign for 2028, or he has no moves and he's just envious.

Starting point is 01:33:19 If it's number one, respect, he's going after the big dogs, no problem. If it's number two, there's two types of competitors out there. Those who win by outworking out, improving out, strategizing out, lasting, and those who do whatever they can to pull the guys ahead of them down. Right? Now Musk and Trump, it's a very weird dynamic because Trump is 12 years older than him, Musk is 13 years younger than him. Rob, if you want to go a little lower.

Starting point is 01:33:43 So Musk is 13 years younger, They both annoy for different reasons. Trump is who Cuban kind of wants to be. Trump secretly is Cuban's hero. I think so, Doc. I think they're both billionaires. They both have an award-winning show, but only one of them is a trifecta and a president. And Cuban knows if he becomes a president, he'll be the second one. And that probably irritates the hell out of him. He just doesn't know if he wants to work that hard to become a president. If you notice, if Cuban does podcasts, it's normally on a Zoom or people go to him. He doesn't go to go on podcasts. That's what Trump does. That's what others do. He doesn't see himself as somebody that's going to go there. Musk, on the other hand, is annoying for different reasons.

Starting point is 01:34:31 Why do you continue going after the richest man in the world? What are you doing? Why do you think so big? Why is he more famous than Cuban even though he's never had a TV show, never owned a professional sports team? Is he smarter than Cuban? Is he as an engineer in business, winning the crowd house? So Cuban made the mistake of choosing forced community win over.

Starting point is 01:34:50 Academia, MSM, Woke, ESG, DEI, and Mandate community. Musk chose independence, libertarians, crypto podcasters, free to choose. As a fierce competitor, must drive him insane to see an older and a younger man beating him. This shouldn't bother the average person, but it does bother him because he thinks very highly of himself. You got to respect that. And that's why I'm convinced this serves Cuban as much as it does.

Starting point is 01:35:14 He has three options. Go after Musk and Trump, but choose to get into the arena to compete. Buy CNN, buy platforms, start a podcast like the All in Pod, but do something. Run for office. Two, sit on the sidelines and focus on your next five to fifteen moves. Three, just be an influencer and a spokesperson for mainstream media, of academia, woke the IESG community that doesn't have the values and principles of an alpha leader who tracks an alpha base, loyal base.

Starting point is 01:35:39 Either way, I think he has no choice but to make a big move very soon or else a high level of bitterness and envy is around the corner. And we'll see which one he's going to do. I think he's so conflicted because a 65 year old white billionaire is not the future of the current Democratic Party. Sorry. And he's already attacked Trump and Elon and everyone on the right so much that they're

Starting point is 01:36:02 just not going to embrace him. He's also in Texas So, you know Texas everything's bigger in Texas. I just think he's so He's got a lot on his plate meaning. He's got a lot on his mind meaning I think he's got a lot of moves to make what if you your three options You don't think he's qualified to run for 2028. No, I think he's fully qualified Okay, I'm saying if he does it as a Republican, there's a no chance for that. If he does it as a Democrat, I also think the chances are very limited because of who he is.

Starting point is 01:36:31 A rich white man. It's just not part of the game plan these days. The way that the current Democratic Party is structured. See that's the part where I don't know if I agree with that. Rob, do me a favor, play this clip. It's a video I just sent you because a part of it is also seeing how the market reacts to it. Like even if you go to the bottom of this comment and you see what other people are

Starting point is 01:36:53 saying, let me first show this video a guy commented on, Maze, who does a pretty good job on Twitter himself. He was one of the guys I commented on. Just watch this video of Mark Cuban on Bill Maher when Bill Maher had long hair. Go ahead. Go ahead. You're a Trump booster. You're a supporter. I wouldn't say that, but I like the fact that he's changing politics.

Starting point is 01:37:15 Oh, I thought you were a Trump supporter. He talks about you like you are. Well, he's allowed to do that, but I just like the fact that the political game is no longer the same. You don't have to be a perfect candidate any longer. But he's a to do that, but I just like the fact that the political game is no longer the same. You don't have to be a perfect candidate any longer. But he's a birther. He's a global warming denier. And he's at least racist adjacent.

Starting point is 01:37:35 Oh, God. Look at the audience. Is this the clip where he says Trump has no chance? You're not a global warming denier. And you're not a racist. And you're not a birther. Nope. How can you like a guy who is all those things?

Starting point is 01:37:48 Because I want to see the political system change. Period. End of story. He's not going to win. He's got no chance. But someone who is an imp... No chance. He's leading. I'm telling you.

Starting point is 01:37:59 Really? You think he has no chance? None. But as an imperfect candidate being the leader right now, he opens the door for other imperfect candidates because up until now... That's what we want. He's like, he's openly imperfect. I like that.

Starting point is 01:38:14 White guy politician cut out. Look, he has to eat those words. I love that. The internet is forever. No chance. As is credible quote-unquote credible as mark Cuban come out and saying this Must have been in 2015 2016 when Trump was 2016 was already in the lead No chance. All right, so That's his that's his legacy on his resume right now. Yeah, I love them And now he's he was taught I mean, you know a lot of people get a lot of things wrong

Starting point is 01:38:41 Trust me when you do podcasts for as long as we have I'm sure we got a lot of things wrong You Trust me, when you do podcasts for as long as we have, I'm sure we've gotten a lot of things wrong. You're not going to get things right all the time. This is why, you know, my dad would always say, never say never, because you have no clue what the hell is going to happen one day. So he fell for the trap of being part of the 100% community or the 0% community, and we've all fallen there before. But the point becomes, you know, with his new play, some are saying he's doing it because he runs a pharmaceutical company and he's going to get the Kamala Harris camp to help him with certain rules and guidelines that he wants to have help him out because that's how he's going to make the big money to go to the next level, etc., etc.

Starting point is 01:39:15 I don't know. But when he's up there on Jon Stewart, kind of bashing Elon Musk, well he's using Twitter to be able to do this. You would too if you had the money, but you don't. Well, you know what he's doing? Yeah, yeah. You would too. You would definitely.

Starting point is 01:39:32 Yeah, bro, you just don't have the kind of money that he has to do that. So what do you want to do about it? I will tell you. On the left, I'm telling you guys right now, on the left for 2028, the left has to sit there and look at case study of what's working and what's not working. You ready? Here's case study. How did Trump get elected?

Starting point is 01:39:56 Fame, business, success, all of that. Bloomberg got in. Bloomberg, the only reason he didn't win is because he doesn't have personality. He has no clue how to answer. He was not charismatic. He was the most boring hundred billion dollar guy ever to run that just wouldn't inspire anybody. And short. And short. Hey, hey!

Starting point is 01:40:18 He's using a stool. He kept saying he asked for a, I don't know why he would ask for that. I'm not going to say that he asked for a stool. I won't bring it up, but I heard that he… It rhymes with you. Don't want to say it. So I think Mark Cuban is a top three candidate for the left in 2028. I think he is. And he's now going after the two guys because he knows those are the two people.

Starting point is 01:40:40 And by the way, why is he going after Algorithm? Because he doesn't want it to work against him in 2028 when he runs for president. Good. If that's what he's doing. If he doesn't, very disappointing. Chances he does run for something in 2028. Well what's something? He's not going to do governor or Texas.

Starting point is 01:40:55 You know, then he runs. He's going to run against the president. If he doesn't, then he's just a mouthpiece. Then no problem. But if he doesn't, man, what a waste of picking fights for no reason. Adam Ligato Yeah, he's choosing his enemies wisely. Tony Bacos What a waste of picking fights. Adam Ligato More unwisely.

Starting point is 01:41:13 Adam Ligato I think he's punching up. Tony Bacos Yeah, let's go. Adam Ligato And he's really handsome. Tony Bacos Tom, bad managers are, Adam, actually this is you, bad managers are reason enough to quit according to LinkedIn. Okay? Here we go. Let's see if this story is going to cause me to quit or not. So nearly 70% of US workers will quit their jobs over bad manager according to LinkedIn's latest workforce survey with Millennials and Gen Zers being the most likely to leave due

Starting point is 01:41:38 to poor management. Toxic leadership has had significant financial repercussions, contributing to over $223 billion in turnover costs from 2014-2009. Toxic management has also deterred younger employees after pursuing leadership roles, with only 33% of employees expressing interest and moving into management positions. The article emphasized that bad management not only drives employees away but also undermines workplace morale and productivity. Bad bosses don't just cost the company talent, they just cost them money. Adam, thoughts on the story? There's a lot to be said here because we've all had bad managers and there's also bad

Starting point is 01:42:13 employees. You can survive a bad manager as a company, I don't think you can survive a bad founder or leader or man at the top. So Pat, you've had how many employees come and go at PHP? 50,000? I've seen it here at Valley Tamer. People come and go. It's just part of the business. There's something called resilience. If you're an employee, if you're a manager, if you're an owner, you're going to deal with the bad. Believe me, I know. You're going to have good days and bad days. Do you have enough to stick it out or not? Do you believe enough in the

Starting point is 01:42:52 vision of the company, in the culture of the company, to stick it out? As companies get bigger, you're going to start to see that culture is no longer going to be the highest priority. It's going to be efficiency. And as a, where do you fit in the, in the machine and the cog in the machine as the employee. So most employees, I'll just say it, are just there for a paycheck or else why the hell are they there? Where you find out who really cares is, do they even care if they're getting their paycheck? Do they even ask for a raise?

Starting point is 01:43:29 That's how you care. If you find out if someone actually wants to be there. You can tell somebody wants to be there if they're asking for a raise. If they're not asking for a raise. So if somebody who's asking for a raise, he wants to be there. No, what I'm saying is, if someone wants to be there, they're not worried about whether they're making X or Y. They want to be there.

Starting point is 01:43:51 They'll figure it out. This whole concept of that the managers are enough reason to quit, that's part of the reason, but there's a multitude of reasons. So I don't know if this was a hit piece. I'm still waiting for your point, bro. This is the story you wanted to talk about. I wanted to have a conversation about this. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 01:44:08 But I'm trying to see your point. You chose the story. I wanted to discuss this, but the fact is leadership at the top is the real reason that if somebody comes or leaves a company, managers will come and go. Because I think there's a lot of value to the story because I agree with the story. Yeah. So I'm trying to, okay, Tom, what would you say about the story? I completely agree with it.

Starting point is 01:44:27 People quit on people. I agree. They don't quit on companies and vision. For sure. And managers, if the managers are aligned with leadership and they are selling the vision, reminding them of the vision and the cause, and they're being properly recognized, properly mentored, they don't quit.

Starting point is 01:44:46 It's so simple. I love this vision, I love this company, and my boss is helping mentor me and getting me from here to here, and I like working here. Those people don't quit, but they sure as hell quit on bad managers, they quit on people. So you know it's funny, this last week we had our, Monday we had our, what do you call it, our quarterly meeting with the crew. Executive meeting with the crew, right?

Starting point is 01:45:08 We had four seasons, we were having our meeting, and at the end of the meeting, normally throughout the entire meeting, what I'll do is I'll show you pictures of it. I'll get on there and I'll write out exactly what was talked about on things that we have to improve. And this is what it'll look like, okay? Just to kind of show you what it looks like, it looks like this. And this is my handwriting. It starts off with improvement, okay?

Starting point is 01:45:32 Things that we have to improve in. Then goes to ideas, okay? And we come up with a bunch of different ideas. And then it comes to departments. How much you can do? How much that person can do? Which company is growing the most? Which company is adding the most revenue?

Starting point is 01:45:44 Which company is percentage? You know, how's Monek doing, how's BDC doing, how's this doing, how's that doing. You know what was number two, yeah, check this out, you know what was number one area of improvement? Middle management. What's middle management? Middle management, so you got C-suite executives, you got people that report to me directly. The only people that can report to me directly are people that are, things can get done through

Starting point is 01:46:18 them. If I can't get things done through you, you can't report to me. So like we have some people that I'm like, oh my God, I tried this, I tried that. Nope, not going to get done through me. I need somebody for you to go work with, but you can't be reporting to me directly if things are not getting done through you. You're not a good manager. There are process people, there's managers.

Starting point is 01:46:38 And sometimes companies don't use enough strength finders to see who does a job better than another job. One of the best lines that gave me a lot of perspective on what somebody can do is Einstein use enough strength finders to see who does a job better than another job. One of the best lines that gave me a lot of perspective on what somebody can do is, Einstein said if you ask a fish to climb a tree, he will feel stupid. Right? Sometimes we put people in certain jobs that they feel stupid. And it is the job of the leaders to position them in a better place to do a better job.

Starting point is 01:47:02 Now sometimes some people are just bad employees. They have bad attitude, they're entitled, they're negative, they're insecure, they're always worried, they go from job to job to job to job to job. That exists as well. But I do think that this is an epidemic that's going on within businesses, middle management. This is why we are, you know, every single year we make a lot of investments into these types of things. Like even this year for the Vol Conference, there's four people we're bringing to the

Starting point is 01:47:27 VOLK conference for specific reasons. Number one is Dwayne The Rock Johnson because I think storytelling and making content go viral is critical and nobody tells stories better than Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Number two, Nick Saban. Why Nick Saban? You know how hard it is to win seven national championships? It's easy to win, it's easier to win seven NFL championships than seven college championships because your players are always leaving you in two years. So it's a new

Starting point is 01:47:51 quarterback, it's a new this. So how do you think he is with conflict resolution? How do you think he is with leadership? How do you think he is with setting the tone challenge? And then you have Will Gidera who ran the number one restaurant, makes it a three Michelin star and then sells it, makes a ton of money. He's going to talk about unreasonable hospitality and how to deal with customers that are bitching, complaining, and how to keep your employees high expectation, high standard, but happy enough to serve other people well. And then Max Tegmark, who's one of the AI King Kongs, wrote a book called Life 3.0. But to me, and we're doing this at Palm Beach Convention Center, if you guys haven't gotten

Starting point is 01:48:22 a ticket, you can go to vtmerch.com. We'll put up the QR code, Rob, to go to it. But I think the management side is super critical. I think most companies don't make enough investments in their middle management to get better. They just assume their middle managers are going to get better. They're worried about spending money to send the guy to this thing or to that thing that, hey, it's going to cost us a lot of money money and I'll never forget one of the best quotes by this CEO and the CFO.

Starting point is 01:48:48 The CFO comes up to the CEO and he says, hey man, why are we investing so much money in education of sending these managers out to these events? Why spend all this money? Because why would we want them to get better and what if they get better and they leave us to another company? And it's the best line what the CEO says. He says, imagine we don't and they stay. Imagine we don't and they stay.

Starting point is 01:49:13 The cost of that. So I think sometimes the entrepreneur, the founders, they've got to invest a little bit more money into their middle managers. Tom, I want to come to this next story that you were talking about. And if you want to combine the two stories together, you can. Suddenly hourly workers aren't so hard to find. This is according to WSJ Wall Street Journal. Apparently now we're starting to find hourly workers.

Starting point is 01:49:35 So let me read this and then I'm coming to you. The hourly labor market once booming is now showing signs of strain similar to the white collar economy. While jobs remain available, the high-rank frenzy is over with employers like ABM Industries even posting signs saying we are currently not hiring. Can you imagine that? Some companies like Daycare, Giant Bright Horror Horizons and Defense Contractor General Dynamics report easier hiring while others like Spirit Airlines and John Deere have cut

Starting point is 01:50:04 significant portions of their hourly workforce, reflecting a broader focus on cost cutting report easier hiring, while others like Spirit Airlines and John Deere have cut significant portions of their hourly workforce, reflecting a broader focus on cost-cutting over expansion. A silent layoff is occurring as companies reduce their workforce. Through attrition, workers are feeling the pinch, with job seekers like Matt Newell struggling to find roles despite extensive experience. The market is feeling balanced but opportunities are fewer and competition is fierce leading to frustrations for many seeking employment. Well here's what's happening companies are keeping quality if you're a quality person the

Starting point is 01:50:37 companies are keeping you and if you're not a quality person you're now part of too much supply of part-time workers and people are having a hard time finding jobs. We're also finding people, the U.S. has got a productivity boost that's been happening, so the people that are in jobs are working hard and companies are getting productivity out of them. And so right now, you want to do a seasonal pop or something, hourly workers aren't hard to find because there's a lot of people out there. The unemployment rate is 4.3%, heading toward 5% over the course of the next six months, I believe, because companies are trimming.

Starting point is 01:51:15 You're seeing it in the stock market, PBD. Companies are profitable. How do you become more profitable? You reduce expenses if your sales are flat in recession, or while sales are growing, you scale by being even more efficient. And so companies are keeping quality and it's putting, you know, the lower quality people are out there and the unemployment rate's going up because the people that are high quality are working are more productive. And so now it's harder for people that want a job hop just to find a job.

Starting point is 01:51:42 And the days of holding somebody hostage and saying, I don't want $15 an hour, I want $20 an hour, and I need to bring my dog to work, but we work from home. Those days are sliding off. This is a run to quality. Hiller I'm trying to find, I haven't worked hourly in years, so I'm just trying to understand how this shapes the marketplace. As a business owner, what should business owners be aware of what's going on in the marketplace? This is sort of not my wheelhouse right now. Summer's coming to an end. Summer jobs are

Starting point is 01:52:16 coming to an end. We're about to hit Q4 in a little bit. We saw what happened in the market last week where unemployment, what was it, the PAM sign? Once the unemployment rate hits anywhere close to 4.8%, it triggers the stock market to go crazy. We saw what happened, but the reality is it's closer to 4.3%. How are you processing this story as a business owner, Pat? The whole hourly workers aren't hard to find? You know, for me, I'm not involved in this drama of hourly workers or not. I'm involved in finding good people.

Starting point is 01:52:53 You know, we were at Goldman Sachs and they said every year they told us the number of people submitting resumes to work for the company. And it was astronomical. And I came back and I talked to RJ. I said, give me a low week, give me a high week on the number of resumes we get. You know what the number is on a weekly basis? We get 1,500 to 3,000 resumes sent to us on a weekly basis.

Starting point is 01:53:18 Get out of here. Not at all. By the way, I'm blown away by that number. Wow. 1,500 to 1500 to 3000 employees, 3000 resumes on a weekly basis, we're getting a small little company that just three years ago we had eight employees, then we had, I don't know, a year ago 45, 50 employees. We're at 115 employees right now full-time.

Starting point is 01:53:42 You know what's funny? Most people that come here don't even know what the hell we're doing. Yes or no? You're right. They just go, wait, what the hell is that? No, no. Most people come in and say, well, you're the podcast guy, right? And then they go, wait, you guys run a consulting firm?

Starting point is 01:53:55 And you guys do this? And you guys own this? And you guys own that? And you guys, product development, machine learning, engineers, like right now we're building an aggregator, news aggregator that's going to be unfrikin' bulli- we have 15 machine learning engineers right now that are developing the news. Like right now, watch a lot of people watch this podcast, right? You know what they ask for?

Starting point is 01:54:13 Can I get the notes? How do you guys come up with the notes? What if I wanted those stories? How do you guys get all this stuff? Guess what? We finally said we want to give you access on exactly what we have. So we hired 15 machine learning guys that are going to go on a new site, do the research for you.

Starting point is 01:54:27 It's non-emotional. It's straight up. You just go in there and say, I just want this. I want the facts. What are the lopsided stories? What's going on over here? Can I go back to the timeline? Why is there a spike on this story?

Starting point is 01:54:37 Stuff that just doesn't exist, we're going to provide that to you. So to me, I'm not involved in the job, hourly and all this stuff. If you're a kick-ass employee, if you love the company, if you love the vision, if you match up with the stuff that we're looking for right now, let's freaking roll. In about two weeks, in the next two to four weeks, a video is going to be launched to the public of me going through the entire values and principles of what it takes to work over here, who are the ideal types of candidates that work for us, who doesn't work for us, and we made mistakes, God knows how many times, but it's going to go through exactly the

Starting point is 01:55:07 culture, how we process issues. But yeah, I mean at the end of the day, the hourly stuff, it's happened in the marketplace for us. A person that's running their business, they're just looking for good talent. Rob, but to talk about this, I thought the former CEO of Google said something yesterday that shook up the market that he had to come back and apologize for. Rob, there's two clips.

Starting point is 01:55:28 Is this the right one? Because this is the one that talks about... This is the first one. This is the first one. The story broke. This is the story that was based on this clip. Him saying the reason why Google lost the AERAs. Play this clip.

Starting point is 01:55:41 You're a Google employee? Yes. In the spirit of full disclosure, Google decided that work-life balance and going home early and working from home was more important than winning. Bingo. Wait, we won't say that for a while. And the reason startups work is because the people

Starting point is 01:56:00 work like hell. And I'm sorry to be so blunt. But the fact of the matter is if you all leave the university and go found a company, you're not gonna let people work from home and only come in one day a week if you wanna compete against the other startups. Did you get it?

Starting point is 01:56:18 Yeah. Of course, you gotta bring your ass in. How do you think value-taming would work if you came in two or three days, you stayed at home, and you let all of us stay home and just come in to do a podcast? It would fail. All the people upstairs, are you crazy?

Starting point is 01:56:34 Do you know what's so funny? But why would it fail? You get your butt kicked by the guy that's working hard. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, by the way, watch this. Who's saying this? A comedian. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:56:43 A comedian who's been in Hollywood movies, creative. A creativist saying this a comedian yeah a comedian who's been in Hollywood movies creative a creative is saying this yeah think about coming from the crea and who are the people typically that would like to have that lifestyle that would like like me the creative me i would yeah do you know how much of an advantage a creative has if they understand that concept? By the way, he says this, and then after saying this, story comes out a few hours later, Vinny. Eric Schmidt walks back, claims Google is behind on AI because of remote work. Oh really? Wall Street Journal.

Starting point is 01:57:21 So he says, ex-CEO, executive chairman at Google, walked back remarks and wished a former company was losing the AI race because of his remote. He says, I misspoke. Oh yeah, meaning I, about Google and the work hours. The truth came out by accident. I regret my error. I wonder who called them afterwards. What do you think happened for him to do that? You did not misspeak, Eric Schmidt. Go ahead, Tom. No, no, no. Let me. Let me tell you. You know, misspoke is, hey you know the unemployment rate's like close to 5%. You know guys, I misspoke. It's a little over 4%, 4.3. I'm sorry, I kind of misspoke there in the moment when I was, because it's one thing. You see that Vinny? It's just like, it's like an element. I misspoke. Right? Instead, he misspoke while he was speaking a paragraph

Starting point is 01:58:06 about working from home. That's not misspoke. That is, I told the truth, my phone rang, and now I'm running back to the microphone because I've got a mark on my face. That's what happened. Yeah, he had to walk back some comments. He had to apologize to somebody or something.

Starting point is 01:58:24 But usually, the first thing you say, that's how you feel. Of course. And then someone will be like, well, you're like, all right, fine, I guess I'll go apologize. But he meant what he said and he said what he meant. That's basically what it is. But the truth is, if you're part of it, by the way, when I interview guys that are working here, one of the first things I ask is, I used to not ask this question, I say, so tell me, have you ever worked for a startup founder before?

Starting point is 01:58:50 Oh yeah, tell me his name. And I straight up start Googling him. And when he worked for him, had he already sold the business or was he still founder? No, it was your tenant of the company. That's the difference. So he was like, did he ever build any other businesses afterwards? What was it like working with the founder? Well, he would call me on Saturdays and Sundays, or they'll say, yeah, I worked with him, but

Starting point is 01:59:08 the founder was with him for seven years. From the beginning to seven years, yeah. No shit, did you like it? Oh, it was crazy. And then what'd you do? Well, right afterwards, I went to a big company. I said, now you want to come back to a founder again? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:59:20 So you sure you want this? What does your wife say about this? Well, before we make this decision, I've got to meet your wife. So these are things that you kind of go through because, trust me, as exhilarating as it is to be part of a startup, like listen, there's people that have worked with me in the past before with startups, and they made a lot of money, and now they're kind of comfortable living on an island, nobody sees them coming late anymore, and nobody sees them leaving early, and nobody sees them doing certain things that maybe nobody will catch them and they're like, you know who

Starting point is 01:59:47 you are. And they'll say, I never want to work with that motherfucker. But damn, I'm glad we made a lot of money together because it takes a lot of brass to want to keep working. A lot of guys that work with Elon maybe don't want to work, but a lot of guys came back. If you read his book, Elon's like, some of these guys came back saying, frickin, I went to a safe place. I was sick of it.

Starting point is 02:00:04 I wanted to go back and work at a place that's grown. But the straight up honest answer is, it's not for everybody. It's just not. Guy asked me a question on my neck yesterday. I love this girl, been with her for four years, I love her, she wants me to marry her, however, she doesn't like the fact that I work long hours to build my business and we're politically on different pages. Recipe for disaster?

Starting point is 02:00:31 Recipe for disaster. Recipe for disaster. Big time. Big time. Sorry, the truth hurts, but I tell you right quick. I'm just saying. He messaged me too. Give 50% of everything you own to some charity and throw yourself down a flight of stairs

Starting point is 02:00:46 and save yourself the four years. Yeah. There you go. There you go. So let's see. What story have we not gone through yet, Vinny? Is there any? There was one.

Starting point is 02:00:55 The more women skip in college. Let's go to the UK one. Let's go to the UK. All three of you wanted to say stuff on this. Okay. UK police commissioner threatens to extradite jail US citizens over online posts will come after you. Okay.

Starting point is 02:01:10 Rob, is this the clip? Yes. Guys, this is my only warning. Be careful when you watch this because it may inspire you to want to move to UK. Go ahead, Rob. Obviously that's a joke, but go ahead. We will throw the false force of the law at people.

Starting point is 02:01:24 And whether you're in this country committing crimes on the streets or committing crimes from further afield online, we will come after you. Talk to me about that because we have seen some high profile figures whipping up the hatred. You talked about it in there with the officers in fact about this being added to by online commentary. I mean I'm even thinking of the likes of Elon Musk getting involved. What are you considering when it comes to dealing with people who are whipping up this kind of behavior from behind a keyboard, maybe in a different country? Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law. You can be guilty of offences of incitement, of stirring up racial hatred. There are numerous terrorist offences regarding

Starting point is 02:02:08 the publishing of material. All of those offences are in play if people are provoking hatred and violence on the streets and we'll come after those individuals just as we will physically confront on the streets the thugs and the yobbs who are taking, who are causing the problems for communities. Come get me Nigel.

Starting point is 02:02:28 So what they're doing and I know Rob has another clip Pat about somebody getting guys and really really picture this somebody getting 20 months in prison because they said online that some of these migrants and guys I hate to be the bearer of bad news I know we have UK people out there you guys know the truth a lot of these people, and guys, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, because I know we have UK people out there, you guys know the truth, a lot of these people are committing crimes, it's like, but wait, UK, it's cooked. France, Germany, all I see online, and it's not isolated incidents, are migrants that are there, that are using knives and harassing women and stealing people and stabbing people. And just because I say that, like, what was that one story, PBD, we did a couple of podcasts back

Starting point is 02:03:10 where these guys raped a girl at one of these parks, I don't know where it was, somewhere in Europe. They called, they went on WhatsApp, invited more people, none of them were born in the country, they're all from different places, and they kept raping this girl. The girl that tweeted and said, hey, these guys are pieces of scum, she did jail time. And the guys that did the raping didn't. I'm just warning everybody that's at home. What these people want.

Starting point is 02:03:36 Can you verify that, Rob? That's insane to me. It was a, I reported on it. I remember this. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Keep going. I want to keep going.

Starting point is 02:03:43 Yeah, Rob can find it. Because apparently, they followed her in the park. They raped. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can find it. Yeah. Because apparently people took they followed her in the park. They raped this underage girl and then they kept calling their other friends. They all came. I think there was like 15, 11 or 15 of them. They came. They arrested them, but they released all of them and the girl that commented on the raper, she got jail time. The other ones were all released and that happened somewhere in the UK. But anyway, my point being said is guys, what's happening in the UK right now? Not being able to speak the truth and voice your opinion is exactly what the Biden, the

Starting point is 02:04:16 Kamala, the whole left, they want this to happen here. And it's number one is to shut us up. Don't say anything. It's all terrorist threats. And the second one, which they always do, that's why every time there's a shooting, it's you know, get rid of the guns, don't get it twisted, they want socialism and it leads to Marxism. And is this it?

Starting point is 02:04:33 This is the, there's a video Rob of the guy with the wig. So Pat, this is, by the way, the fact that he's wearing a wig is good though. It's hilarious. Not as good as your mustache. It's hilarious, but that's their uniform for court. The judges wear that. That's a uniform. Guess what Tom, I wear uniforms, they're called costumes, but it's good though. It's hilarious. Not as good as your mustache. It's hilarious, but that's their uniform for court. The judges wear that. Guess what, Tom? I wear uniforms, they're called costumes, but it's on Halloween. So listen, this is him giving him 20... I'm not saying it doesn't look silly. I'm saying he's not coming to work like... He's about to call you crazy. Yeah, but I might go to jail because of this, but look at this.

Starting point is 02:04:58 Go ahead, Rob. That's the one he's giving him a prison form. Go ahead. You have been committed for sentence having pleaded guilty to an offence of publishing written material which is threatening abusive or insulting intending thereby to stir up racial hatred. The context of your offending is that it arises out of the civil unrest and disorder in many parts of the United Kingdom. On the night of the 2nd and 3rd of August the Britannia Hotel in Leeds was attacked by people who threw missiles which damaged windows.

Starting point is 02:05:50 The police were called and on the 3rd of August, the hotel was locked down for the protection of those who were living there. This is the clip of him discussing why there were 210 occupants, many of whom were foreign refugees and asylum seekers. Similar attacks to the hotel were launched on the 4th of August. The police attended on each occasion and units were deployed to safeguard the hotel and to provide an increase in the police presence in the area. In between the two attacks, you took to social media in order to encourage others towards participation in the attacks upon the hotel. As is recognized on your behalf,

Starting point is 02:06:41 this offense is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable. How many how long? 20 months and listen they lowered it they lowered it to 20 months it was supposed to be more this is it right here Rob? This guy you can listen to my 5.0. Fall asleep on this guy. Yeah. Like he needs to drink what Ben drinks.

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Starting point is 02:07:34 Tom, how do you process this stuff? Two ways. First of all, the bonkers laws in the UK that are saying that someone who through freedom of speech says something, even if they're saying, hey, get down to the hotel and stop these guys, which is what that guy did, is that that is somehow now accessory to a greater crime and basically it is anti freedom of speech and it's meant to shut everybody up. So I think that's kind of bonkers. The police commissioner saying we're going to come over to the United States, we're going

Starting point is 02:08:09 to extradite you. No, no, no, that's not going to work. The last time the British came over here to come after citizens, George Washington got an army and kicked their ass. Yeah, good luck. So good luck with that, which is why the election is so important. Tom's getting emotional. Tom's getting emotional. He's getting emotional.

Starting point is 02:08:26 It's okay Tom. I'm all like, Pat, why he's doing that? I need more coffee there Tom. There's more to this story that you guys are... By the while you're going through it, let me just show one thing. Rob, can you pull up that one story about how many people got arrested? This is it, PBD. So men jailed for encouraging unrest on social media.

Starting point is 02:08:43 Hang on, this is what I want to show. Go lower. It shows how many people have. But there's a report right before that actually shows the exact number. Can you imagine that though? It shows some 741 people have now been arrested, of which 302 have been charged. The National Police Chief Counsel said. For just saying, yeah.

Starting point is 02:09:05 Holy crap. 741, 42 people, 302. And then the story that Vinnie brought up, Vinnie Vestamone said. Just to make sure you guys know what I'm talking about. So this is Germany. The woman was convicted of offending the migrant gang rapists that she received longer prison sentences. So the 20-year- old girl has been, she was

Starting point is 02:09:25 put in prison for posting about the migrants saying that it was harmful towards the rapist. And these guys, all the guys, there was 11 men that were charged for raping this girl. Two of them were acquitted because lack of evidence of DNA. And by the way, these guys, they all had German passports, but they were all identified as from Polish, Egyptian, Libyan, Kuwait, Iranian, and Armenian, Afghan, Syria, and a Montenegrin were there. She got more time for going online, and she messaged him on WhatsApp and said, you're a disgusting human being for raping this girl. She got more prison time than the guys that are actually doing the raping.

Starting point is 02:10:04 So who's being protected? So Pat, going to that story, if you go online and you say these migrants are raping people, the government is going to come after you to put you in jail for talking shit about them. So what does that mean? They're protecting these people because they want that migration. They want to change the whole freaking culture. They want to tear down the system.

Starting point is 02:10:21 Am I right, Tom? You're right. It's a globalist agenda and you're protecting the interlopers that they want there to assimilate into the society, to dilute the society, to take down the walls, so that the globalist agenda can be there. This is all part of the globalist agenda. Yeah, and don't let it come here, guys, because that's what they're trying to do. And I say this all the time, Adam, and I'm sorry I'll let you go. If you don't think that this government, the government's happening right now, would gladly,

Starting point is 02:10:44 if we were like, hey, you know what? Number one, we want to give you, we want to, we all want to give you our guns. You don't think that they would take it? Number two, if we said, hey guys, you know what? This whole X and somebody said something mean, we want you guys to monitor it. Please, please do what they're doing in the UK. Don't think for two seconds that they wouldn't do it. This government would love, love to be totalitarianism on us and just

Starting point is 02:11:05 completely control us and do whatever they want. AOC and Omar support the position. Yeah, for sure they do. Adam? Radical Islamic terrorism. That's where I'll start what I have to say. What you guys are missing is there's a lot of reasoning behind what's going on here. So a lot of the issues that we're dealing here in America today are the exact same issues that they're dealing with in In Europe all over many countries are dealing with this. The biggest difference is the following

Starting point is 02:11:32 We're getting a lot of people from different countries, but it's mainly people coming in through Mexico through the wall and they don't have a particular ideology other than they're either here to a Have a better life or B take advantage of the system and do that. The exact same thing is going on in Europe. The only challenge is there's an ideology there because Latin America, Central America, for the most part these are Catholic Christian countries if religion is even involved. In North Africa, in the Middle East, people that come from Europe, it's a lot of people from the Islam faith, a lot of Muslims. And I don't

Starting point is 02:12:12 really, this is not something I wake up and think about every day what's going on in the EU. Now in my former relationship, she was from London. I would spend every summer in London. She was from Wales. I would see what's going on and I would go to different neighborhoods. Oh, we can't go there. We gotta go here. This is brick lane. That's where the Indian people here in Bangladesh. Okay, cool. We go in the Muslim. I'm learning this culture is like, holy shit. My first time in London, UK, I was like, I didn't realize there were as many Brown people here straight up.

Starting point is 02:12:42 And it's always been uncomfortable. It's all, it's a, it's an uncomfortable situation. You know what it is, Pat. And this is coming from two brown people, so we're brown. Exactly. So what's happened in the last six months? Adam's always been a little bit uncomfortable with brown people. Hey listen, I'm down for whatever. What's happened in the last six months? The Tory party, which is the longest standing, greatest political affiliation party of all time. Winston Churchill, Madrig, Margaret, just suffered a horrible loss. Like got their ass kicked by the Labor Party. This guy, Kerr Starmer. So the biggest reason to get his ass kicked

Starting point is 02:13:16 is because they promised to curb immigration and immigration doubled. So you're familiar with this guy, Tommy Smith? Yeah, I love that guy. You heard about this guy? Tommy, I'm sorry, Tommy Robinson. Tommy Robinson. I'm thinking about if you're familiar with this guy Tommy Smith? Yeah, I love that guy. You heard about this guy? Tommy Smith? I'm sorry, Tommy Robinson? Tommy Robinson. Tommy Robinson. You familiar with Tommy Robinson? Tommy Smith was a backup running back. Tommy Robinson.

Starting point is 02:13:32 Yes, Tommy Robinson. He's been very critical. Now Andrew Tate is probably going to have to, you see what Andrew Tate said on your boy show. Which one's my boy? Piers Morgan. Yeah. Weird stuff going on right now.

Starting point is 02:13:47 Basically, the UK has fallen. It's cooked. And it's cooked. And you remember the song from REM, Losing My Religion? Yeah. That's what's going on here. Losing their country. Is that they are losing their faith, they are losing their identity, they are losing

Starting point is 02:13:59 their religion. There's a lot of Christian countries out there, Judeo-Christian values, that are looking around and being like, so now we're doing the Sharia law thing? This is what's going on in London? This is what's going on in Paris? This is what's going on in Amsterdam? Germany everywhere. This is what's going on. Now, respect. What I love about the United States is you can be Jewish, Christian, Catholic, it doesn't matter. The difference is in a lot of these countries, what happens is the first generation comes in, you assimilate. So your parents, they came here for the first time, the next generation, the kids, they assimilate. That's why Pat says, born in Iran, made in America. So you assimilate,

Starting point is 02:14:42 you embrace, you unify. That's what, that's not what they're doing when they go to the UK, especially the more radicalized people. They basically want to tear the system down, burn it down and make it their own. It's no secret. And this, I'm not talking about the moderates. I'm not talking about people who are just there to blend in and be part of embrace society. I'm talking about the radicals and the radical Islamic terrorists. This part of this jihad Sharia law thing is exactly what's going on in London and the UK. So what's happening is twofold. It's the immigration and then it's part of immigration is they're taking the working class jobs. So there's economic situation in here and you basically have white guys from London, from the UK.

Starting point is 02:15:25 I mean, Tom, you know what white guys are. This is kind of their hood. They're like, oh, Mike, what the hell's going on around here? Like I remember growing up here. And it's not so much the migrants that's a part of it. It's the economic ramifications that they're dealing with the migrants. But then there's all the ideology. And then you throw on little situations like that will create a basic powder keg. There was a little girls dancing in a Taylor Swift class that got stabbed by a guy who had radical ideology.

Starting point is 02:16:00 And then all of a sudden there's stabbings that are going on. And then there was a terrorist bullet. Taylor Swift had to cancel three concerts back to back to back because ISIS, they're back everybody. Apparently not under Trump, but under Biden. They're back and they were threatening to blow up dead bombs and all that type of stuff. I'm sorry, Tommy Robinson. He said the following, we're losing our country. We're losing our culture.

Starting point is 02:16:21 Our identity is under attack by Islamic Jihad militants. The police and government are absolute cowards. The police run away and hide when the Muslims come out and protest. People are getting stabbed. Girls are getting killed. It's not about race. It's not about skin. It's not about color.

Starting point is 02:16:38 I don't care if you're Sikh. I don't care if you're Hindu. I don't care if you're Jewish. I don't care if you're Christian. I don't care if you're Muslim. But the radical Muslim ideology is permeating all through UK and Europe. And that's what he's saying. Yeah. And I mean, if you can't see it, admit it. And you know what the best thing is? If you can't see it and admit it and then go on a social media platform and go, hey guys, it's not good. And then

Starting point is 02:17:00 you get 20 months in prison. Guys, when I say they're cooked, they're overcooked. And then he said, here at my last point, he goes, why isn't Egypt taking people in? Why isn't Iran taking people in? Why isn't Saudi taking people in? Why isn't Syria taking people in? Why isn't Lebanon taking people in? Why isn't Jordan taking people in? I can go country after country after country after country, but here you have these Judeo-Christian, Christian nations in the EU accepting all these migrants, and now they are changing their culture. Good luck changing Islamic culture in their countries.

Starting point is 02:17:33 Not going to happen, but they'll do it in Christian cultures. So that's why a guy like this is very upset, and that's why someone like Andrew Tate is kind of stuck in the middle. Rough spot to be in, but he knows how to maneuver through these types of situations. If there's a guy that can pull it off, it's him. But let me wrap it up with the story, okay? Because I'm trying to bring the temperature down to wrap it up. Iran appears to be back.

Starting point is 02:17:57 Threats of retaliation against Israel. Okay, so this is one story. Next one, Iran not expected to attack Israel if ceasefire agreed with Hamas Says Joe Biden then the next story in Gaza Israel's military has reached the end of line US officials say that Israel has achieved all it can militarily in Gaza with further operations only increasing civilian risks And would never be able to completely eliminate Hamas. Israel operations have severely set back Hamas, killing or capturing around 14,000 combatants

Starting point is 02:18:33 and damaging supply routes, but the group remains a diminished force rather than being annihilated. And then Iran emerges as the most aggressive foreign threat to US elections. So these stories that are coming out left right with Iran and Israel. Tom, question for you. One, Iran is claiming they're going to retaliate after what Israel did, taking out who they took out. One, do you think now, since it's been a minute, there is going to be an attack?

Starting point is 02:19:02 Two, you think they're not going to do anything? Three, do you think they're afraid if they do attack that Israel is going to attack and the US is going to defend Israel's attack against Iran? Where are you at today? There's three steps to it. I don't think they're going to attack today. That's my headline. There are three steps. Step one, we are going to attack you. It is going to happen. We will not tolerate what you did and we are going to attack you." And step two, the world expected 50 missiles to land in a cornfield, right? Like they did. By the way, that's what happened. I'm not trying to be funny. That's what happened, what, three months ago, correct? Yes. They said, then step three, you know, they said, no,

Starting point is 02:19:39 no, no, we're really, really gonna do it. And Israel said, don't you flippin' dare. And they know how serious Israel is. And so Israel before kind of knows, and so they would leave the temperature down a little bit and say, look, they're going to drop a bunch of small rockets on a cornfield. Just, just chill. They're going to do that thing and try to save face with the brotherhood of the anti-Israel countries. And step three comes and Israel said, dude, if you're really serious this time and you

Starting point is 02:20:09 launch anything against real military targets or against our citizens, you have no idea what I will effing do. Now then, also, also step three was happening with Trump up in the polls. So I think Iran is looked at that chessboard and they can't play the game that they played four months ago. So I don't think there's going to be an attack. And I think Israel has called their bluff and they haven't backed down to Israel. They've just gone quiet, but I don't think they're going to do it.

Starting point is 02:20:39 Adam. So, I mean this sincerely, what war has Iran won in the last 40 years? What military victory has Iran done? I'm genuinely posing a question. You would know this more than me. They had the war with Saddam Hussein in the 80s with Iraq, right? I think Iran, you know, we've been sort of trained as Americans. They're Iran. Oh my God, they're going to do so.

Starting point is 02:21:07 What have they ever done? All they've ever done is fund terrorists around the region and so discord throughout the Middle East. They're a regional annoyance that is, has a harder, a, their bark is louder than their bite and Israel knows that. Now Israel is sitting in a position right now where, you know, we hear the terms existential threat, existential threat, existential threat. Israel is literally getting existential threats at all corners. You know the foundation of why it's called an existential threat? Because

Starting point is 02:21:41 it's a threat for you to actually exist. So here's Israel's position as something, you remember Samson in the Bible? Yes. Remember the story with Samson where he basically, they cut off his hair and he lost his power, but he regained it and then he basically tore down the columns of the walls and he killed all the people that basically were holding him captive? And himself. Exactly. He sacrificed himself. Exactly.

Starting point is 02:22:05 He sacrificed himself. So Israel has something called the Samson option. And they're like, okay, listen, here's how we operate, guys. We're a little teeny tiny country with constant existential threats surrounded by terrorist organizations and terrorist countries. The Triple H crew founded by Iran, the Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah, and they're potentially at war with three, four of all, all at the same time.

Starting point is 02:22:26 We know what's going on there. At any single point, every Israeli citizen knows, boom, get into the shelter. So the Samson option is the following. Oh, we're telling you straight up right now, you just saw what happened in Gaza. Hey, Hezbollah, which basically has sort of hijacked a former Christian-esque Arab Muslim country, Lebanon. Yeah, we're not just going to come after Hezbollah. We're going to up you up, Lebanon.

Starting point is 02:22:57 Oh, Houthi rebels, you want to come after us? You know how Trump says, yeah, you punch me. I'm going to punch you back 10 times harder. That's what Israel said. They're saying, if you come after us, we're going to you up. We have no choice. So you hear these things like these deterrence. This guy was giving an interview. It's actually an interesting story here.

Starting point is 02:23:20 He's a former Israeli commander and they talked to a really thick accent and I couldn't understand if he was saying a terrorist or deterrence. It's a deterrent. You have to deter the deterrents with the deterrents for the terrorists. And I realized that this interchangeable word deterrents and terrorists, he's like, you have to basically make sure that they understand. Dude, if you do this, Hezbollah, Iran, the Quds Force, whoever, we're going to f*** you up. We have no choice. Or a little teeny tiny country that is nuclear armed with their, they're basically the Silicon Valley of the Middle East.

Starting point is 02:23:58 And whether you agree with their policies or not, I'm just letting you know this is how they feel. If they feel like there's an existential threat on their existence, they're going to f*** you up. So this is the reason Iran, death to America, death to Israel, you know, you said that they shoot 40 rockets or cornfield, whatever the hell it is. That's what they did three months ago, right? Iran knows that if they truly try to do something, that their entire regime is going to get...

Starting point is 02:24:24 Yeah, well, peace through strength works. Yeah, it's how it works. It's the Reagan approach. So, because I want to ask you, and I'm being genuine, so you know, Trump, Trump is not the president, he's the next president. Could he still get involved, like right now to try to do something in regard to the Israel Hamas ceasefire thing, because to help his campaign, meaning meaning like if he broke his, is he legally allowed to Tom to, cause I know he spoke with Netanyahu was there last month.

Starting point is 02:24:49 He spoke with everybody. He was, he's, you know, had the standing ovation and stuff in Congress. A report came out yesterday on Reuters, PBT, I sent this to Rob, Trump and Netanyahu speak about Gaza hostage ceasefire deal. And then a couple of hours later Axios said, well, we can't confirm or deny. But the story came out yesterday on Reuters, Republican candidate Donald Trump spoke on the phone with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday and discussed the Gaza ceasefire and hostage release deal. My question is, how can he do that? And number two, how

Starting point is 02:25:19 big of a campaign boost would that be if If he freaking helped, get hostages out and Joe Biden could not do it. The short answer is yes, he can. I mean, you had a governor without permission went to China, Gavin Newsom. You had a NBA player went to North Korea, Dennis Rodman, to speak to Kim Jong-un's dad. And you can do whatever you want in this country.

Starting point is 02:25:43 Sean Penn has gone to foreign countries and talked to people. You as a citizen can do whatever you want in this kind of Sean Penn has gone to foreign countries and talked to people You as a citizen can do whatever you want now can Trump disclose things that he knows as president? No, he can't be doing that but good luck good luck proving it and I don't think he would do anything crazy like that But he for his campaign just like Gavin Newsom went to China He could go over there and say listen if I am elected I have your back or I'm going to do this. There's nothing wrong with that. There's also one little caveat here. So do you know that since the war, you know, this axis of resistance that has been formed

Starting point is 02:26:15 between Russia, Iran, North Korea and China, so that's that's their crew. You know, pick your team guys. You want to be on America, democracies, the EU, Israel, like Argentina, or you want to be on China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, that's basically the crew. And what's happening now is, don't look now, and I'm not saying that I'm pro or against this, this is just what's happening, is Ukraine has done a counteroffensive against Russia. Have you noticed that? By the way, did you see the story that came out about Ukraine's Zelensky today?

Starting point is 02:26:44 Yeah, about the Nord Stream pipeline? Yeah. Yes, we can bring that. But let me just finish this one little point. Russia and Iran are very strange allies in terms of weapons because Russia produces a certain types of weapons and Iran produces a certain types of weapons. So they have some alliance there. Have you familiar with this at all?

Starting point is 02:27:08 So what happened is now that Russia has basically said, oh shit, like Ukraine's back in it. You know, like we pass a lot of funding to Ukraine. Don't forget these guys can't trade with the rest of the world. They're trading with each other. So now they're looking at each other and Russia goes, yeah, hey, Ron, we're going to need some of those, those weapons. And Iran's like, yeah, no, like we were going to maybe use them against these guys. They're like, nah, we need them now.

Starting point is 02:27:30 So there's this weird thing going on here. So the whole peace through strength thing, there's a lot of dominoes right here. Whether you agree with the Ukraine war or not, that's irrelevant. It's the fact that they're putting pressure on Russia. Now Russia can't sell more arms to Iran and that whole situation. Listen, this may be the craziest story that came up this morning. Ukrainian team blew up North Stream pipeline, claims report, spokesperson for Zelensky denies Wall Street Journal's claims.

Starting point is 02:28:02 This is not Daily Mail they're talking about. Wall Street Journal reports this and they say, no, you guys are wrong, and again accuses Russia of carrying out the, what was it Rob, go to the top, carrying out the sabotage. Now let's actually read this entire article, Rob. Is this the WSJ1 or do you have the whole thing for me to read? Let me see if I can get the WSJ1. I want to read the entire article that talks about this because at the beginning when this happened we all know who they blamed.

Starting point is 02:28:30 Everybody and their mothers looked at who? Vladimir Putin. You know what, because they said that some analysts and commentators, it was everybody, but it said that basically, him blowing it up would put pressure on Europe by damaging the pipeline. Russia could escalate the energy crisis in Europe. That was the main thing, especially in the winter months that were coming. Rob, while you're pulling up the Wall Street Journal article, you can show the headline.

Starting point is 02:28:53 It's interesting. It goes, A Drunken Evening, A Rented Yacht, The Real Story of the North Street Pipeline Sabotage. And it says, private businessman funded the shoestring operation. Yeah, which was overseen by a top general President Zelensky approved the plan then tried Unsuccessfully to cut it off. You know what that means? He gave them the green light and then it was like give me come back come back and they're like now we're already doing it Yeah, yeah go figure that one out thoughts

Starting point is 02:29:20 I think when you look at all this What usually happens in war under the fog of war is when something weird like this comes up, there's usually more truth to it than you really wish there was. Was it more logical that the Russians did it? If American media were being pushed by our own intelligence people to carry the story that the Russians did it. Would that help the Ukrainian funding through Congress against Russia?

Starting point is 02:29:51 Of course, Tom. Oh boy, that would. Oh, and those bastards blew up a pipeline that's bringing gas to people for homes in winter. So they go there. And then you come back to something like this and you say, I always look at this stuff and the weird stuff usually History comes out and it ends up being correct. So weird stuff on battle, you know

Starting point is 02:30:10 Do you know when we first was reacted to this the biggest thing was? Why would Russia do this because if I'm not mistaken Rob, can you type in who owns the North Stream pipeline? I think they own like 55% of it. Germany was another one. It's how they export their Russia. Break down the equity. Break down who owns this. Break down who owns percentage. Exact percentage. We see what it says. Does Russia own it? Go to the first one. People ask. Go to the bottom right there. Click to see it says percentage. There it is. 50 plus percent is owned by Russia. Why would they do anything to it? By the way, by the way, by the way, by the way, by the way, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.

Starting point is 02:31:04 Two questions. One, if you're Putin, how do you process this? And what are your next moves to the media? And number two, if you're Trump, how do you use this intel that just came out? Yeah, that you do in the Russia hole, you know, they're blaming Russia for everything. If you're Putin, what do you do? If you're Trump, what do you do right now? If you're Putin, how do you handle this today? I cannot believe the Western media. We've been

Starting point is 02:31:27 saying this for nine months. Once again, we didn't do it. We weren't part of the collusion in your election. We weren't part of this. This is being done by manipulative operatives that you're trying to keep the war going in Ukraine. Yeah, another failed attempt of making him the boogeyman and making him like the devil. Like, dude, that's Zelensky. I think we even said that it couldn't have been him. Why would he do that? It's a critical infrastructure for Russia. If Ukraine pulled it up, remember the simple.

Starting point is 02:31:55 As we know with LBJCIA, we come down 50 years later now, and 60 years later, and the simplest explanation suddenly is... Exactly. And the simplest explanation suddenly is, hey, drunk on a yacht, what if we blow the pipeline, blame Russia, and that'll get more sympathy for us so we can get these billions of dollars and we can, by the way, legitimately fight back for our borders but also keep the money train coming. Let me read this entire article. A report by US and Wall Street Journal claims that Kiev concocted the plan to blow

Starting point is 02:32:27 up the pipeline, bringing in Russian gas to Germany in May of 2022, citing four anonymous Ukrainian military sources. A small Ukrainian crew disguised as a pleasure boat, as that's the one you read. The operation was concocted during a drunken night in May 2022. Bingo, here it is. And Ukrainian military officers celebrated halting Russia's full-scale invasion of the country and were looking to deal another blow to Moscow, the newspaper reported, citing four anonymous sources. Nord Stream is a network of pipelines running under the Baltic Sea from Russia to Germany

Starting point is 02:32:52 to provide Western Europe with natural gas, meaning it provided billions to the Kremlin coffers. This scheme reportedly costs around $300,000 and involves a six-member crew on a small rented yacht. Ukrainian President Zelensky initially proved it before the US intelligence agency. CIA caught wind and asked him to stop. Holy shit! The Ukrainian president ordered a halt, but his commander-in-chief, Zolzhiny, went ahead

Starting point is 02:33:17 and with the operation. Anyway, the outlet said it had spoken to four senior Ukrainian defense and security officials who either participated in or had direct knowledge of the plot and all of them were considered the pipelines as a legitimate target as a defendant itself against Russia. Euronews could not independently verify the claims made by these sources. Germany and Poland doubt Ukraine's involvement. Really. By the way, you know why they have to say that.

Starting point is 02:33:41 Let me tell you why they may have to say that. You'll see why they have to say that. Let me tell you why they may have to say that. You'll see why they have to say that. WHA also said that portions of the sources account that has been corroborated by a German investigation into the matter, yet German intelligence officers have said they doubt that Ukraine was really behind the sabotage and that it's possible it was a false flag operation by Russia. Yeah, right. This is supported by Polish authorities who sent the names of Russian suspects to Germany's intelligence service. The WHA article comes after Germany

Starting point is 02:34:11 media reported that prosecutors had issued the first arrest warrant in their investigation into the Nord Stream attack. The report identified the man, Voldemort Z, without citing sources to suggest that he had recently returned to Ukraine. Polish authorities have since revealed that they attempted to arrest him at his address in a near town Warsaw in July, but that he had allegedly gone back to his native country. He wasn't stopped at the Polish-Ukrainian border because German authorities failed to enter his name in a wanted database. The Polish prosecutor office had on Wednesday,, he said on Wednesday German reports, also two other suspects, married couple Svetlana, and I know Svetlana, and even Uspenska, who

Starting point is 02:34:54 run a diving school in Ukraine. They have both denied being involved in the attack as their maximum dive depth is 30 meters compared to the approximately 80 meters at which the explosion happened. They don't push the envelope when it comes to diving. You know when we blow crap up, we only go to 30 meters. It wasn't us. How much credibility do you give this story by WSJ? WSJ is not just any, they're fairly in the middle.

Starting point is 02:35:17 What much credibility do you give to the story? I give a lot of credibility to this and you can see what looks like a comedy of errors is actually stand downs. It's like he's at the border, should I enter his name into it? No, no, no, no, no, don't don't put his name in just wave him through. Are you ready for this? Yeah, listen, we own diving company, but we only go 30 meters. 80 is way too much for us. Are you getting me? Give me a break. And CIA satellite photo. Are those two girls on the yacht wearing full black dive suits and gun belts? Yeah,

Starting point is 02:35:45 but it seems like a pleasure cruise to me. Yeah, exactly. I think the learning lesson for me is this is, you know, whenever something massive, ridiculous happens, we jump to massive conclusions, whether it's a Nord Stream situation, whether it's, you know, Biden resigning, whether it's Trump getting shot. But when sometimes when you give something time and you find out the stories, it turns out this Nord Stream 2 thing was a bunch of drunk Ukrainian guys being like, I can't believe we did it. We stopped Vladimir. You know what we should do as they're drunk. We're going to get a boat

Starting point is 02:36:20 and we're going to blow up the whole pipeline. I know, I know. You didn't get orders though. You did not get orders. So diving school. Exactly. So, literally what happened, according to the Wall Street Journal here, is for $300,000, they rented a boat, rented a small yacht with a six-member crew. Probably American tax dollar money, but go ahead. They trained the civilian divers. They put a little hodgepodge operation together. Yeah, we'll pay for the lost damage

Starting point is 02:36:49 waiver insurance too. We need that. One was a woman, quote unquote, whose presence helped create the illusion that they were a group of friends on a pleasure cruise. And whether Zelinsky called it off, they didn't call off, who knows, a $300,000 investment. You asked, how do people feel about this? When this happened and you cut off the gas that basically fuels Europe, how much did this cost the EU and Europe and Germany, everything in that $300 billion? How much money? So this $300,000 investment costs so much ridiculous money. But here's the question though.

Starting point is 02:37:34 So I just looked it up. Shareholder 51% is Russia. 15.5% is split between German companies, Winterschall and PEG. Then the Dutch gas company, Gaussian, 9%, and French gas company, Engie, 9%. What does Germany, France, and the Dutch have in common? What are they all a part of? They're a part of NATO and the EU. Oh, oh, oh, oh, got it. Yes. And what does Russia not have in common with those three countries? They

Starting point is 02:38:12 don't want NATO any closer, which would annoy them about Ukraine. They are not part of NATO. Okay. And where is Ukraine in this? Are they part of NATO? Are they not part of NATO, but soon to be part of NATO? They were thinking about NATO which pissed off Russia. And just last year, if I don't recall in July, they were trying to accelerate the membership that Biden was talking about for NATO. It's like, what if we can find a way to accelerate the membership to piss off Putin? So if this story is accurate, what does Zelensky do with the $200 billion that's been given to him?

Starting point is 02:38:48 What should happen to that money? Well, we know for a fact that there's been a lot of corruption and that they've siphoned money off the top. Yeah. And we know that they're basically fighting a forever war and that a lot of that money got siphoned back to the United States to the very senators and congressmen that uh, that voted to give it to him. Huh.

Starting point is 02:39:08 That's a really interesting point. Yeah. But he's going to pay back money. He said, give me money. I pay back. And they give you one percent for the dark money pack for your campaign. Not only that, him doing this disrupted the world. Yep.

Starting point is 02:39:23 Yep. US was aware of it. We still kept giving money. We still kept getting support even though CIA communicated with them. And even after this happened, what was the date? What was the date of this Rob? The actual North Stream Piperland Bone? What was the date? Was it a year? I'll say eight. It was May of 2022 that they started these conversations and four months later, September 26th of 22.

Starting point is 02:39:51 Yep. September 26th. What was the date? September 26th, 2022? So if he's behind it, if he's behind it and he's causing us, and we're giving him $200 billion to fight a war against these people and he's doing

Starting point is 02:40:06 basically false flag shit to make this guy look bad, I want my money back. No, what do you mean? Europe is going to have to… Well check this out, so that's September 26th, on December 21st of 22, he visited Zelensky, the US during his 10-hour visit. Zelensky met with Biden, held a joint press conference, and addressed a joint session of the United States Congress. So he came less than three months after this event, and that's what it was.

Starting point is 02:40:35 Three months after this event, if the CIA knew, Joe Biden knew, yet you still held a press conference with him to defend him against Russia, which by the way, indirectly, you were flirting with World War III, even though you knew this was happening. Oh, I don't know, man. Not good. I don't know. Let me tell you, it's very, very important to know of the credibility of this story. Wall Street Journal doesn't just write stories.

Starting point is 02:41:01 No, they don't. And I can't wait to see what Putin is responding to. I'm on the same line of thinking. Let's see what Putin is doing. I have a lot of questions,, they don't. And I can't wait to see what Putin's going to do. I'm on the same line of thinking. Let's see what Putin's going to do. I have a lot of questions, folks, but here's what I can tell you. What I do know for a fact is I'm convinced the future looks bright and we want a million people to wear the gear of future looks bright. The USA hats, last time we had, it sold out like this.

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