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Starting point is 00:00:40 Alcohol in select markets. See app for details. Take us back to the opportunity you got to say, I'm gonna go participate in this clinical trial. It wasn't a matter of if I was going to get the vaccine, it was a matter of when. So I really felt privileged to be able to participate. You go through the clinical trial,

Starting point is 00:00:58 you're thinking nothing's gonna happen, what happens? Nobody was being believed when they were going into the ERs and saying, look, my legs aren't working. I got a shot three days ago. What's the problem? This federal government is now forcing OSHA to force the public to get their shots. But at the same time, we have this study going on that's confirming that there are some very concerning neurological complications to the COVID vaccines.

Starting point is 00:01:22 We know for a fact that Fauci knew about this study because he personally met with two vaccine injured. Is there any cure to what you're going through right now? No, there is no cure. My condition will continue to decline until I pass away. How much progress is being made for holding some of these guys accountable? The laws are continuing to strip away the rights of the American people and give our rights to pharmaceutical companies and big corporations that want nothing more than for us to go away and die quietly. One of those threads should be investigated and most people should be held to account. This will happen again if we don't face this and address this now.

Starting point is 00:02:06 So imagine your mother, you're very active, your husband's a chemist, PhD, your sister's an OBGYN, your family filled with nurses, all your kids, both of them have been vaccinated to whatever the laws are and that's what you've done, you believe in it. And it's November 4th, a day after election, AstraZeneca is looking for clinical trial volunteers, I'm wanting to go out there and do the vaccine, you know, it's fine, I'll do it because I believe in this stuff. You go do it, your name is Brian Andresen. Immediately you have symptoms. So bad that you go to NIH and you become the first case at NIH to actually check on you. They bring you in, they're

Starting point is 00:02:42 trying to find out what's going on to your body, the reactions that you're having and you're with them for months and then eventually while you're going through this, your story comes out publicly. ABC puts it out there July of 2021 I believe. Get seven plus million views. It's still on. It was never taken down and everyone's going on saying why is this case and then they start an organization called React 19 where 36,000 other people come and find out and learn that there's more people that are going through this. And then eventually you become the first person in America to sue AstraZeneca. And AstraZeneca just recently decided to kind of drop their COVID-19 vaccine

Starting point is 00:03:18 because they said there's not that much of a demand for it. And we sit down and we have a conversation with it. Very interesting while I'm talking to them. I'm like her and Kyle Warner who is a former mountain, you know, mountain biker athlete and he had his own issue that he's dealing with. But while I'm going through this, I'm looking for patterns and signs. You know, so go these guys are anti-vaxxers and they're this and the arguments that are made, why would a person that took the vaccine be an anti-vaxxer? Many different questions were brought up. Some of them maybe you haven't thought about lately, but I thought it was important for

Starting point is 00:03:53 us to go through it. I want to learn a little bit more about AstraZeneca and we even get into AstraZeneca's relationship now with China, what they're doing to China. Wait till you hear what the president of AstraZeneca said to the Chinese folks when he went there. Just a lot of questions. As a father of four, I'm curious, if you're somebody that's still curious about what's going on, you want to get to the bottom of it as well and learn more about it. I think today's podcast with Brianne and Kyle will reveal a lot and hopefully you.

Starting point is 00:04:20 I'm not a doctor. I'm not making any recommendations. There isn't any absolute, this is what's going on. That's what's going on This is purely another story to be told for you. Just like me if you're curious Go do your own due diligence to see what you can do to make better decisions for you and your family But having said that enjoy this podcast with Brianne and Kyle Okay, so we have an interesting story here for you today. Why? Because you know, during the peak of COVID, if you uploaded a video, doctors, if you uploaded

Starting point is 00:05:16 a video and shared a story about somebody who had a vaccine injury, this, this, and you know, whatever it was, they would take you down. Be careful with this. Be careful. You were an anti-vaxxer. You don't do this. You don't do that. Vaccine injury this this and you know, whatever it was they would take you down be careful with this be careful you Actually, you don't do this. You don't do that One of the only videos that stayed up was a video with an interview done with Brienne Dressen This was an ABC interview and it got 7.3 million views this was uploaded think about July 10th of 2021. This is the peak we're in it, right and It's showing how you, this individual we all

Starting point is 00:05:48 learned about, Breanne Dressen, who went in to do clinical trial, which she'll give her story here today, and then immediately she had a reaction to it. And this was the AstraZeneca vaccine shot that we were talking about at the time. And then it got so bad that they had to report on it. We learned about it. They showed it. And then everybody started saying, wait a minute, if this is stained, is there any credibility behind it? And then, you know, it's not like she's somebody that was against it.

Starting point is 00:06:17 She's like, yeah, I'll do the clinical trial. I don't have a problem with that. Think about it. If somebody agrees to do a clinical trial, why would you have a problem with it? You don't really have a problem with it, right? You're going and saying, yeah, I'm good. What are we going to do with this? And then that experience has led into them doing what they've done.

Starting point is 00:06:32 AstraZeneca now is taking the COVID-19 vaccine out because of lack of interest. That's the word they use. Like, there's not really that much interest for it as well. Is that really the case? There's some numbers you're hearing that the company is now facing legal action primarily in the UK where around 75 claimants have initiated proceedings. Anyways, we're going to go into all that stuff. Can they do anything about it? Can they not? So she's here with us. And then at the same time, you have to hear how much the medication now costs for her to take and how much she's being helped by AstraZeneca to support with that.

Starting point is 00:07:06 And then at the same time, we have Kyle Warner here as well. He had a similar but a different experience. He's a mountain biker known for his competitive spirit. We almost got into fight earlier arm wrestling, but we kind of had to set it aside and get serious here with you. And he has a complete different story as well, similar to this. So Brianne and Kyle, it's great to have you on the podcast. Yeah, thank you so much for having us here. Of course. So, I'm going to start off with you, if you don't mind. For the audience that doesn't know,

Starting point is 00:07:33 this is the video I saw. I'll show you the video and then I want to kind of hear it from your perspective on what happened. Rob, just play the first 90 seconds if you could, the first two minutes if you could. Go ahead. In our coronavirus coverage, a Utah woman and Utah senator are teaming up to get some answers. This comes after a group claims they've experienced life-altering injuries that they believe are from the vaccine. While the symptoms haven't been officially linked to the vaccine by the CDC, some are convinced that they're related. Now, I spoke with that woman to find out what she's been experiencing and why she's now asking the public for help. There's no question that the vaccines

Starting point is 00:08:11 do save lives. Breanne Dressen is a preschool teacher in Saratoga Springs who participated in the AstraZeneca clinical trial back in November. We all knew that some people were going to draw the short straw. And that includes her. She got her shot on November 4th and she says she hasn't been the same since. Immediately within an hour I had tingling down my arm and by the time I got home my vision was blurry and double. But that wasn't all. My sensitivity to sound in my head becomes so severe that I had to have earmuffs on all the time and sunglasses.

Starting point is 00:08:52 She says that's when things took a turn for the worse. So I had this weeks-long neurological decline. Nobody knew what was going on. I called the test clinic several times. Finally, two days later later they had me come in and they did a neurological exam and they said, oh, it looks like you have MS. Her symptoms continued to worsen

Starting point is 00:09:13 and just before Thanksgiving, she says her leg stopped working, sending her to the ER. But after running several MRIs, CAT scans and lumbar punctures, nothing. I spent the next several months of my life trapped in my room by myself completely alone and in silence.

Starting point is 00:09:40 Even the sound of my husband's pants swishing was too much for my ears. We put towels on the windows trying to make it darker. And it was a nightmare. No answers, no relief, no hope. I missed out on Christmas. I didn't buy my kids a single Christmas present. I've missed out on months of their lives.

Starting point is 00:10:16 She spent months teaching herself how to walk, eat, and form sentences again, while she traveled near and far to try and get some answers. The hospital didn't know what was going on. None of the neurologists that I saw knew what was going on. She says she's talked with others who are dealing with the same symptoms after getting their code.

Starting point is 00:10:35 When's the last time you watched this? It's been a while. How does it feel right now watching it? It's kind of a little bit of a flashback to be honest You know and the reason why I wanted to start this way is because when I watch this I went there Right. So I remember the first time watching this. Yeah, you know what? What's the first line they played of you? You said there's no question. The vaccine does save some lives That's not somebody who would say something like that,

Starting point is 00:11:06 who would be against it, right? So it's not like you come and bashing it or anything like that, but you experience it. So take us back to one, the opportunity you got to say, hey, babe, you're married, you got two kids, you got a family. I'm gonna go participate in this clinical trial.

Starting point is 00:11:24 What was the offer? How did they approach you? How did that happen? You got two kids, you got a family. I'm going to go participate in this clinical trial. What was the offer? How did they approach you? How did that happen and how did you make the decision? It was really common sense for me because my family has several medical professionals and a few of them are on the front lines and they saw horrible things during the pandemic. And so it wasn't a matter of if I was going to get the vaccine, it was a matter of when and I wanted to be part of the solution.

Starting point is 00:11:49 So I really felt privileged to be able to participate in this clinical trial. The AstraZeneca clinical trial company, it was called Velocity Clinical Research, they called me. What a name. Yeah, right? Like, speed, let's get it done. Come on, Velocity. Yes, and that's exactly what happened with all of the Yeah, right and speed let's get it down. Come on velocity Yes, and that's exactly what happened with all of the trials, right? They were all operation warp speed. That's right. It wasn't called warp speed for just any reason right?

Starting point is 00:12:15 These clinical trials that are supposed to take years Were streamlined in a matter of months and that right there should give anybody a little bit of pause But I wasn't thinking that way. I was wanting to make sure that I was helping us all get back to normal life. So I signed up, they did a very thorough health evaluation. They wanted to know everything from the moment I was born up until I got my shot, my vaccination record, you know, any complications with my pregnancies, everything. And after that, we signed a contract and I went in and got my shot.

Starting point is 00:12:48 In the contract, they were very thorough. They wanted to make sure that I understood what my obligations were, which was I just needed to give them very detailed updates on how I was doing after the shots. And in return, they would provide support medically and financially if there was a problem. Also, they did say if there was a complication, they would support you medically and financially. Correct.

Starting point is 00:13:14 In writing. That's in writing. In writing. OK. So at this point, when you're saying my family, medical, who in your family is involved in the space, and at what levels? So my sister is a OBGYN and it her experience first and foremost you know

Starting point is 00:13:31 with with the masks shortage was really concerning to me and we helped round up all these masks in the community over a thousand masks we actually ended up having to smuggle them into the corporate hospital systems because the hospitals wouldn't give them to the medical professionals that needed them. But then she would call me and tell me these horrible stories about women with their placentas clotting and their babies would die. And right then and there, I knew that I needed to do everything I could to not drive, you know, to make a harder situation for her and for my other family members.

Starting point is 00:14:09 I've got several nurses and others. In the family. Yeah. So when you're going through this, is it, hey, sis, I'm thinking about doing this, you know, or is it, no, babe, I want to be a part of it because I feel like I'm doing an injustice if I don't. I want to be a part of it and be part of the solution. How did that, I want to be part of the clinical trial happen? It really was just common sense.

Starting point is 00:14:35 We had a couple of friends that were medical professionals that had gone through the Moderna clinical trial and did just fine. Got it. Okay. And they were like, hey, you should sign up for this trial. So you signed up, you're not even thinking about it? No, didn't even think about it. I had never had any problem with any vaccine. Makes sense.

Starting point is 00:14:52 So it just, yeah. Did you get paid for it or no pay? They were supposed to pay me money and they didn't pay me that money either. What is the, like how much should they typically pay for a clinic? It's like 1,200, 1,500 bucks. And they never even paid that clinical trial money? Well, they wired me $590 without my consent later. But yeah, so I did get $590.

Starting point is 00:15:11 But not the other money that they owe you. So now, here's interesting. You said you did the clinical trial on November 4th, 2020. You know what's unique about that date? It's the election. It's a day after the election. This is Wednesday. Yes, I remember. I was sitting there looking on my phone while I was waiting for them to come and give me You know what's unique about that day? It's the election. It's a day after the election. Yes. This is Wednesday.

Starting point is 00:15:25 Yes, I remember. I was sitting there looking on my phone while I was waiting for them to come and give me the shot and I was looking at the tallies. I remember it as clear as day. So now you know what happens November 5th, I believe. That's when Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, or Pfizer, one of the three came out and they said they officially have the vaccine. They announced it two days after election.

Starting point is 00:15:43 So third is election, fourth you take the clinical trial, and fifth is when one of these guys comes on saying they have it. Rob, if you can find out who was the first vaccine that was ready, I think it's Moderna that came up saying they were ready and they announced in November 5th. It could be Demo or Johnson & Johnson or Pfizer, but you can check. Okay, so you go through the clinical trial, obviously you explained the video, but I kind of want to hear it from you now You leave you're thinking nothing's gonna happen hour later. What happens? Yeah, so an hour later within that first hour I was on my way home from the company from the clinical trial company and The tingling started in the same arm as my injection went down. And it felt just like

Starting point is 00:16:26 you would, you know, like when you fall asleep on a limb and it's numb and it's really, you know, that painful pins and needles. That's what it felt like. But there was no reason for my arm to have any circulatory constriction whatsoever. So I thought it was strange. And within several days that had spread from my one arm through my chest to my other arm, down through my legs, and I still experienced that pins and needles electrical sensation every minute of every day to this day. Dr. Justin Marchegiani worse or better? Dr. Julie Kinn The same. Actually, it's worse than when it began.

Starting point is 00:17:01 And it was so severe. And that's why I was pulling the waterworks in the video, because it was that bad. It was so bad that I literally couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep. The only thing I could do was just try to control my breathing. And I lived that way for months with this sensation. But what we've learned now through our advocacy is that actually this paresthesias is a relatively common thing when it comes to neurological reactions to But what we've learned now through our advocacy is that actually this pair of seizures is a relatively common thing when it comes to neurological reactions to the COVID vaccines from all brands. And it's actually a precursor to neuropathy.

Starting point is 00:17:36 So it's not something anybody wants. It's not something that you should take, you know, as a, you know, oh, it's not a big deal. It'll go away. it doesn't go away. And it's a sign of something far worse going on in the body. Now, if you're going through it, if something that happens in your family, we all get obsessed with it, right? But we had twins, we'll go to the doctor,

Starting point is 00:18:03 the doctor says, you guys are gonna have twins. We're like, you gotta be kidding me. No, we already have three kids and we're having twins? Yes. Okay, nine weeks later, one of the kids, 70% chance is gonna be Down syndrome. Boom. Now reality hits.

Starting point is 00:18:15 You're serious, yes. You guys have to be ready that this could be the case with your child. For a month straight, my wife and I, all we're watching is raising kids of Down syndrome, other kids, etc. etc. So we're going through it. It's heavy on the family. We haven't had the conversation with the kids to prep them on what it's gonna look like. 12th week, we go in and they said one of them didn't make it. We

Starting point is 00:18:41 don't know which one didn't make it. You still have to wait to find out until the baby is born. Baby is born. Brooklyn, she was the healthy one, the son that didn't make it, didn't make it. But during that one month, life was 180 for us. You can't really publicize that it's private that we're going through it, but we try to search other communities that are going through it to learn ourselves, right? When you go through something like this, you're trying to find out how many other people are going through it.

Starting point is 00:19:10 Based on your research, your family's research, what have you noticed is the trend? Was it specific to AstraZeneca? Is it also Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, Moderna? And if it is, one out of how many are you noticing are having similar symptoms? I genuinely wish I could tell you it was just AstraZeneca. I do. Unfortunately, it's happening with all of the brands, this specific type of neurological reaction and through our advocacy work at React 19 where we have over 36,000 COVID vaccine

Starting point is 00:19:39 injured Americans in the United States alone, the majority of these people have a strong symptom constellation that looks like this type of syndrome, this declining neurological condition where your nerves are slowly being attacked and eaten away by your immune system. So it's not anything anybody wants. And it does happen to a far lesser degree from COVID. But there is several research projects going on right now. And we're doing one in particular with Yale with Akiko Iwasaki and Harlan Krumholtz. And we found that there is a immunological signature between long COVID and COVID vaccine injuries and the difference is COVID vaccine injuries have a far stronger proponent for

Starting point is 00:20:28 neuropathy than long COVID. Got it. Got it. And you said a lot less with COVID. What did you mean by that when you said a lot less with COVID? So long COVID does have neurological complications but as I'm sure you've understood it's you know you have the issues with the scent, the smell, the brain fog, the fatigue, these painful nerve damage type issues, they do happen, but it's not nearly as prevalent. The effects of that are more the vaccine, not the COVID. Correct. Not the actual virus is what you're differentiating. Correct. Okay, I got that. Okay, so the 36,000 that have participated in your organization that have also gone through some injuries, is there any cure to what you're going through right now? Is there

Starting point is 00:21:15 anything that can be done about it? That's kind of a mixed bag. I definitely am not cured. My condition will continue to decline until I pass away. So I'm trying to make the most of the functional facets that I have now while my body is, you know, while we're able to have a conversation now until, you know, I end up back in a wheelchair and things get worse. So no, there is no cure. We have seen with people that are younger, the likelihood of them recovering is far higher, so long as they don't have a significant autoimmune component. So these people that are younger, if they take control of their healing with, you know, stop eating American food and all of these other things that we just do as Americans that is not good for anyone,

Starting point is 00:22:06 then their bodies are able to kind of recreate itself so then it can have things that it needs to repair itself. With older people, you know, in the 30s, 40s, 50s, it's definitely a different game for sure. And so that's when we bring in a lot of heavy-duty medications and a lot of these protocols that we know about actually started at the National Institutes of Health and These people don't know about it because the NIH has not been informing people of it. Tell me more. Tell me more So when after my injury that was November of 2020

Starting point is 00:22:43 My husband's a PhD chemist. He started reaching out to scientists all over the world. Anyone that posthumously that the spike protein could do this to the body through the vaccine in a similar way that COVID was doing, he contacted them all. And one of them was a researcher named Avinjranath. He's directly under Fauci at the National Institutes of Health. And this was January 11th, 2021. The NIH reached out to us and started a study on serious adverse events to the COVID vaccines.

Starting point is 00:23:18 I was patient number one in that study. I was flown out, given thorough evaluation, testing and treatments there. When is this? What's the date? So this finished in June of 2021. So the study started, they started onboarding people in January, and we know the first, I want to say 12, 13 patients that were on boarded. So they were actively engaged with several people

Starting point is 00:23:46 that were seriously adversely affected by all the brands. You know, just to be specific, it wasn't just AstraZeneca, it was Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, and AstraZeneca. Starting in January, really in depth, we were on emails with Peter Marks, head of biologics at the FDA, and this is in March of 2021, with NIH lead researchers, Janet Woukok, head of the FDA, and all of them together are promising us that they will collect the data and that they will disclose this to the public appropriately. They literally ask us to give them some more time before we publicize this. And because we were giving them people, we were sending patients to the NIH privately, like

Starting point is 00:24:37 these seriously adversely affected people like Maddie DeGarry, who's a clinical trial participant who's 12 years old, and she's got a feeding tube still and a still in his wheelchair. We were sending them these critically injured people, and they were helping them privately. They were picking up the phone and privately advocating for us with our home physicians, who at the time were doubting everyone, right?

Starting point is 00:25:01 Because the mantra was, you know, these vaccines are going to save all of us, just get the shots in your arms, everybody just shut up and do it, right? And so nobody was being believed when they were going into the ERs and the hospital system saying, look, my legs aren't working. I got a shot three days ago. What, you know, what's the problem? And so the NIH was privately helping people and saving lives one by one individually. But then still publicly, they were saying nothing. Was your experience a positive one with NIH?

Starting point is 00:25:34 And? I was totally positive. That's what's so bizarre. Like they literally, when I went there, I felt more validated there than I had anywhere else. So positive experience with NIH. You have documentation of all the communication with them. Hundreds of pages.

Starting point is 00:25:50 Email, text, calls, all of it. Yes. Okay. And did they ever release that report publicly or no? Has that ever been? Yes. So, it's interesting because they all of a sudden stopped collecting our our data They stopped the study when was that in June of 2021? It was in the fall of 2021 So if you think about when the mandates were ramping up

Starting point is 00:26:12 So how inconvenient would this be that they were like? Okay, federal government is now forcing OSHA to force the public to get their shots But at the same time we have this study going on at the National Institutes of Health that's confirming that there are some very concerning neurological complications to the COVID vaccines going on. Did ABC approach you about doing that video or did you approach ABC? We approached them and actually every single one of the photos in that video were from hospital clips from the NIH and you can actually see it in

Starting point is 00:26:45 a couple of them. There's this the mark of the NIH on the pillow. That's while you're at their hospital. Can you find that wrap with the NIH? And they self-edited this one obviously. They self-censored it. Yeah, so. Oh, it's the NIH.

Starting point is 00:27:00 That's right. That's right. So positive experience with NIH. They're being overly helpful to find out what's going on Sincere your experience is all great June the the the the what is it called? You said June is done right when they start doing the research That's when they started wrapping it up. Yeah, that's that they start wrapping up. They start in January and in July Yeah, that's that they started wrapping up. They start in January and in July Did you approach ABC because they that's when they dropped that that's when they stopped following up Or was it a little bit after July when they stopped following up

Starting point is 00:27:33 It was it was a little bit after July and then they cut everybody off And was that video did that video prompt them to be pissed off almost to say oh you want to go public? We're not gonna help you. Do you think any thought there? That would be nice if we knew any of that. But of course we don't. But I really genuinely think that it wasn't because we started speaking up because we told them that we were going to go public. When did they know that? In July. Okay. And what did they say to you?

Starting point is 00:28:01 We commend you for your advocacy. Word for word, that's what they said. How high ranking of an NIH person said that? Anthony Fauci's understudy of Ender-Nath, directly under Fauci. We know for a fact that Fauci knew about this study because he personally met with two vaccine injured while they were there. So he knew what was going on with this study. While you were there, did you ever meet him or no? No. Okay. So this is who you're talking about, right?

Starting point is 00:28:26 This is a? Yeah, Dr. Nath, who's a super nice guy. And then all of a sudden they all disappeared. There were two research understudies that were in some support groups with us. And all in the same day they left the support groups. They stopped responding to us and it was just like the doors just closed. All of a sudden this back door access that we knew and we had used for

Starting point is 00:28:50 months to get people care to literally save their lives all of a sudden shut. So then we got together, right? And we said, well, this is a little bit of BS. What do we do? And we decided we need to start speaking out. And so then we started calling Science Magazine, which actually ran a story on it, and a couple of other outlets and said, look, NIH is not telling people what actually they know about the COVID vaccines. So we started hitting them hard. So then in the fall, they kind of quietly snuck the research onto a preprint server. So there is a study that's sitting on a preprint

Starting point is 00:29:33 server from these lead researchers from the NIH about the study. So now they can say, well, yeah, no, it's out there. It's just, we have it there. What's the significance of what you just said? The way you're saying it, why is it not a big deal, the fact that they've done that? Well, it's interesting because usually with any kind of significant research at the NIH, any research they complete,

Starting point is 00:29:58 it ends up on an actual medical journal like the BMJ New England Journal of Medicine, right? Their stuff doesn't just magically end up on a little server in a corner that hasn't been verified. But then also they always do press releases. And this actually came out in a FOIA request that we put in that Francis Collins, so the head of the NIH at the time, is on an email string with the publicity office. And both of them together are talking

Starting point is 00:30:26 about whether or not to publicize this study specifically. And of course in the email string they say yes, we've talked about this with Tony. Yep. So and of course Tony is what they would say for Fauci because they wanted to try to avoid all of this coming public. And of course they obviously decided against publicizing the study. Summer is like a cocktail. It has to be mixed just right. Start with a handful of great friends.

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Starting point is 00:32:04 No, no, no, I'll let this keep running. Okay. There's a lot more. So, so, so from from there, at what point did you and by the way, just to qualify this, you have two kids. How are your kids? They are now nine and 11. Nine and 11.

Starting point is 00:32:21 When they were two, three, a year old, did you follow the guidelines for vaccine? Yes. Everything that? Fully vaccinated. We were all fully vaccinated. Fully vaccinated. Fully vaccinated. Okay. So it's not like you're coming from a family where it's natural, we don't do anything, everything, we don't touch the vaccine. So you're somebody that's from the space,

Starting point is 00:32:42 you're nurses in your family, you're sisters in OB-GYN, your dad, your husband's a PhD chemist. You believe in the greatness of what you know are... All in. Yeah. So, all right. So what leads you to saying, you know what, we're talking about it, NIH, we're not getting a lot of follow-up, we're at a point right now we're going to file a lawsuit. What got to that point of wanting to sue AstraZeneca?

Starting point is 00:33:09 Because you are patient number one to sue AstraZeneca, if I'm not mistaken, right? What led to that? Well, as disturbing as how the government mismanaged this, the drug company and their management of my case is just as bad. As soon as I reported my injury, it's as though the drug company couldn't get away from me fast enough. So those obligations to support us financially if there was a problem help us medically, they did neither. And that started on day one. So the test clinic kept reassuring us that payment was coming and they were sending

Starting point is 00:33:45 us to all of these different research, you know, cutting edge testing facilities, right, to figure out what was going on in my body. Because I wanted to know, but the test clinic that was hired by the drug company, they also wanted to know. And so it was a lot of medical bills really fast, right? And it became very apparent by the spring of 2021, so five, six months into this, that no money was coming. We had to refinance our house. My sister was nice enough to hire a nanny and these medical bills just kept piling up, piling up, piling up. And we kept literally begging them for help.

Starting point is 00:34:27 There were two times that the drug company offered payment. The first one was from actually that news story that ran in July of 2021. And they, without my consent, wired $590 to my account. And then the second one was when a new story ran again. So it was once again to save face from, you know, from public scrutiny. And that was in December of 2021. And they sent me a offer letter of $1,200. And that was to absolve them of all obligations for future payments and to also say that they

Starting point is 00:35:02 had done nothing wrong. And I believe it was an NDA too, right? No, that one wasn't an NDA, which I had been trash-talking them for years, so I'm sure that wasn't gonna do anything. God, this is the 12.43 and 30 cents or something like that, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:18 Okay, which obviously that's a lot of money. I know. We're living in the 20s, but today it's nothing, right? It's nothing. So now, at this point, with everything you're going through, what medication are you on? How much does that cost? Where are you getting the funds to pay for it? Because I know you're also probably on time.

Starting point is 00:35:36 I heard about the infusion that you're going through with $3,500 every two weeks, $7,000 a month. The other medication that I think it's $400,000, give or take, and your insurance company was able to negotiate for it to only cost $110,000 or $105,000 of medication. Walk me through what medication you're on and how AstraZeneca's helping you pay some of that cost. You know, AstraZeneca has been super helpful. They've been so helpful. $1,200?

Starting point is 00:36:05 $1,200 is helpful, which I didn't accept, by the way. I thought my life was worth a little bit more than $1,200 from them. So yeah, so I'm on an immunoglobulin, and essentially what that is is 1,000 people's immune cells in a bag, and it's healthy functioning cells. So if you do donate blood, thank you so much. If you're healthy, and especially if you're unvaccinated, please go donate because I now need your immune cells to live. So basically what they do is they take these immune cells and they infuse it into your veins and basically dilute your malfunctioning immune system with good functioning cells so then your immune system doesn't attack the nerves as much. So that's the first drug. So that one's the one that

Starting point is 00:36:54 can cost anywhere from a hundred thousand to four hundred thousand dollars a year. What is it called? It's called IVIGel IVIG, okay. Dr. Lauren L is another one that I'm going to be trying soon and it's called Rituximab. This is actually a drug that's used for cancer patients and it wipes out all of your adaptive immune system. Your innate immune system is what you're born with. Your adaptive immune system is everything that you develop after, you know, through your lifetime.

Starting point is 00:37:25 So they're gonna go in and basically hit the reset button on that one. And that is anywhere from $80,000 for two doses, upwards of $250,000 for two doses. And I have to get that every six months. You have to get that every six months. Yes. And then on the infusion part that you're doing, is that $3,500 every two weeks? Yes. And that one you're on right now? For life.

Starting point is 00:37:46 For life you have to do that? For life. Now are you guys decamillionaires? Are you from a very wealthy family where you can afford this type of treatment? My nerdy husband totally loaded. Well, listen, Silicon Valley's filled with nerdy husbands that are totally loaded.

Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah, that's true. Not mine. Not yours. Okay, well, he Valley is filled with nerdy husbands that are totally loyal. Yeah, that's true. Not mine. Not yours. Okay, well, he seems like he loves his wife and he's going above and beyond to support you. So sometimes that is priceless. But okay, so this is a real pain to make. It's not like you can afford it.

Starting point is 00:38:21 So now today, I saw 75, right? I saw 75 claimants have initiated proceedings. These claims involve severe side effects such as blood clots, specifically vaccine-induced, thermobotic. The claimants are pursuing compensation under the Consumer Protection Act of 1987, the government-run vaccine damage payment scheme. The latter has a payout limit of $120,000 per claim, which many argue is insufficient for those who have suffered catastrophic injuries or lost family members. Now, for you, this is a clinical trial volunteer.

Starting point is 00:39:01 So can their lawyers come up and say, nobody forced you to do this, this was your choice, you did this and you knew what consequences you can face with this or what you said earlier is the fact that in the agreement states that if anything happens to you, they will support you. Yeah, it's straight up contract law. So that carries weight where you can get the money from them. We are, yeah, that's the whole purpose of this lawsuit because otherwise in the US you can't sue. Got it. Which that's what Kyle's for. So then Kyle, what I see here is

Starting point is 00:39:34 the following. Largest pharmaceutical lawsuits ever settled, okay? I'll go from seven to one. Merck, $950 million, this is 2011. It was marketed as painkiller. Vioxx for unapproved users. Vioxx was linked to an increased risk of heart attacks and strokes. They had to pay out nearly a billion dollars. Abbott Laboratories, one and a half billion in 2012. They agreed to pay this for promoting its drug.

Starting point is 00:40:03 This is a bipolar product. I don't even know how to pronounce it, but it's a Depakote. It could be one of pronouncing it for users not approved by the FDA, including the treatment of schizophrenia and controlling agitation and aggression in elderly dementia patients. One and a half billion dollars. Ellie Lilly, $1.4 billion. Johnston Johnson, 2013, 2.2 billion dollars. Takeda Pharmaceutical, 2015, 2.4 billion dollars.

Starting point is 00:40:33 Number two, Pfizer in 2009, 2.3 billion dollars. GlaxoSmithKline, GSK, 3 billion dollars, 2012. That's the biggest one that's ever happened. I wonder how many people are sitting around wondering what's going to happen here because the number of injuries that are now being reported, more and more people are finding each other. How much progress is being made for holding some of these guys accountable, if you can even hold them accountable because there's some laws with immunity where they've protected themselves. What kind of progress is being made?

Starting point is 00:41:09 Well, that's kind of what we've been trying to explore. So the last four months I went to DC and have lived there lobbying on behalf of the vaccine injured and trying to meet with politicians to see, A, can we kind of repeal some of the PREP Act provisions that essentially open up them for liability and allow the free market to take place? Or B, can we try to get a bill passed that would compensate, like, so basically move the COVID

Starting point is 00:41:28 vaccines into the vaccine injury program and allow people to get claims processed through that. The thing that sucks though, is that we've been kind of going down this path and the bill that we're advocating for has a projected cost of between $10 and $20 billion to compensate the existing 5,000 claims in the VICP, then to add the 10,000 claims from the CICP into the VICP, update it for inflation, because it hasn't been touched since 1986. So it's $250,000 max pain and suffering and death settlement. So that is like $680,000, or somewhere around $680,000

Starting point is 00:42:02 in today's dollars. What's CICP? CICP is the Countermeasure Injury Protection Program, or Injury Compensation Program. And so countermeasures are things like anything kind of adjacent to a pandemic or an emergency. So for example, with the CICP, they're covering things like COVID-19 vaccines, the smallpox vaccine,

Starting point is 00:42:21 monoclonal antibodies. Public health emergencies and security dangers threaten our country. So that's kind of like countermeasures, injury compensation program. To combat these threats, the government supports the development of countermeasures. Countermeasures of vaccine, medication, device, or items used to prevent, diagnose, or treat a public health emergency, which makes sense. What is the VICP? The VICP is the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

Starting point is 00:42:47 Got it. But the thing about it is that these vaccines didn't get the official BLA approval, which is basically biologic licensing approval. So they are not eligible to be put into the Vaccine Injury Program because they weren't technically approved products that we took. So they're making this argument that the vaccines that you guys took are non-approved, therefore they shouldn't be allowed into the VICP and they should be stuck in the CICP. However, the CICP in the history of the program has paid out 43 claims, 43 for 3, they've paid out 13

Starting point is 00:43:20 COVID-19 vaccine claims for a total of $48,000. You're kidding me. Biggest claim in America right now is just under 9 grand for myocarditis. The 13 COVID-19 vaccine claims for a total of $48,000. You're kidding me. Biggest claim in America right now is just under nine grand for myocarditis. The smallpox vaccine, there was a myocarditis claim there, $323,000. So if you have myocarditis from the smallpox vaccine, a $323,000 settlement.

Starting point is 00:43:38 From COVID vaccine, the largest claim in America currently. $9,000. $9,000, and that was of June 1st. Where is that story at? What you just pulled up, Rob? Can you pull that up? HRSA data, H-R-S-A, so health. Wow.

Starting point is 00:43:50 You can look up, if you type in COVID-19 CICP claims, it'll pull up a spreadsheet. You can pull up all of them. So these are all of the covered countermeasure claims in the history of the CICP. There it is, the myocarditis. You just said $323,000. Yeah, and if you scroll down,

Starting point is 00:44:05 then you'll see the COVID-19 ones, because they're newer, so keep going. And then there's a COVID one, see that $9,000 one? Wow. So that's the biggest claim in America, right now for the public. Ever, documented. Yeah, as of June 1st.

Starting point is 00:44:20 Okay. And so what we do, if you're getting injured by this product, so I had a reaction to the Pfizer vaccine, I had myocarditis pericarditis, which is basically heart inflammation. I was a pro athlete, so I was at risk because I'm a pro athlete. They're finding that the healthier you are, maybe the more at risk you are having a vaccine reaction because your immune system goes into hyperdrive. So for Brie, she has a condition called chronic demyelinating polyneuropathy, and her immune system is essentially

Starting point is 00:44:46 going like this wire right here. There's a sheath concealing the cord, right? Her immune system is eating that sheath. And as it eats that sheath, she's experiencing nerve pain. And so her immune system is doing the damage. For me, I had mast cell activation syndrome and heart inflammation, again, caused by my immune system, which went into hyperdrive.

Starting point is 00:45:04 So it's kind of like it puts your body into fight or flight. And you have to try to re-regulate, as she was saying. syndrome and heart inflammation, again caused by my immune system, which went into hyperdrive. So it's kind of like it puts your body into fight or flight and you have to try to re-regulate as she was saying. And so the immune globulin that she takes essentially dilutes her immune system so it's not able to attack her as badly. But her case, she's up and walking. We have several friends like Doug Cameron, who had a similar situation where it ate away the sheath and his spinal cord burst.

Starting point is 00:45:23 So he's paralyzed. And Maddie Daguerre has her spinal cord, it's demyelinating more severely and so she's stuck in a wheelchair. Are these all part of the, well maybe it's not, the 51 cases against AstraZeneca for $125 million, that lawsuit? Or no, these are separate lawsuits? So like Doug was Johnson and Johnson, Maddie was Pfizer, so those are not included in those lawsuits. Got it.

Starting point is 00:45:45 Are you part of the 51 out of 125, or your lawsuit is separate? Mine's separate, because the other lawsuit is not brought in the United States. That's purely UK. Got it. Yeah. And so Pat, the thing that's interesting is that CICP

Starting point is 00:45:58 was never set up to deal with this. You have no right to an attorney, no right to due process, you file your claim, you have one year from the date of injection to due process, you file your claim, you have one year from the date of injection to build your case and file your claim, and if you get rejected, you have no right to an appeal. So for me, I waited the full year to accumulate as many medical bills as possible.

Starting point is 00:46:14 I've mailed it out on my one year anniversary date. It was postmarked one day late. And so after one year and nine months of waiting, they sent me a rejection letter saying, you've been rejected on the basis of being late. So right now the CICP, they processed around 2,800 claims and it has a 99.5% rejection rate. 99.5% rejection rate. Okay, so if one other funny thing, there's a thing called the American Rescue Plan Act which is for federal employees. In the American Rescue Plan Act, which is for federal employees. In the American Rescue Plan Act, this is from a Freedom of Information Request Act from Mark Hackett, they have paid out

Starting point is 00:46:50 186 COVID-19 vaccine claims out of 800, and they've paid out $1,760,000 to federal employees. So they have a 23% approval rate if you're a federal employee, whereas we have a 99.5% rejection rate as the public. So if the testimony with Brianne Dressen and Kyle Warner is causing you to have some questions, you want to get in touch with them, you want to support what they're doing, you can. You can officially ask them a direct question on Manette. All you have to do is click on that QR code, download the app, ask them any questions you may have, whether you're going through this personally or you want to find a way to support or you got additional questions, you can enact them officially now on the app.

Starting point is 00:47:26 Well, now, why would they set it up that way? Well, it's actually motive. It's interesting because the American Rescue Plan Act was essentially set up to help people that miss help they miss work or they have an injury from COVID-19 vaccine. So through that Mark Hackett Freedom of Information Request Act, they were able to get how many were compensated for the vaccine injuries. And in there, there's a provision that says there's actually no burden of proof for those. So you file a claim, you get reimbursed for if you missed a day at work or if you had

Starting point is 00:47:54 a more severe injury. So I read in one of these articles, Rob, if you can find it, we were just talking about this earlier, the fact that AstraZeneca made an agreement with the government, the London High Court, whatever you want to call it, that if they do get sued, that any damages to the injured patients will be paid by taxpayers. Yeah, same in America. Right, but that's the one thing that AstraZeneca has in UK, right?

Starting point is 00:48:28 If something happens, they're not paying anything out of their pocket, taxpayers are. And US is the same. Well, it's the same because the CICP is taxpayer funded, so the countermeasures program is taxpayer funded. The vaccine injury compensation program, every vaccine dose that's given to people in America, 75 cents gets taken out and put into that program. Right now it has a $4.3 billion surplus in that program ready to help vaccine injured Americans. However, that program is very broken in the sense that there's eight judges. They're called special masters. So right now they have 5000 claims outstanding for non COVID related ones. And there's only eight people that hear those cases. And so they're just getting this massive backlog. So that's the bill HR 5142 from dogged, who's a house representative, they've been working

Starting point is 00:49:15 on trying to remodernize that program and update the compensation. But that's a projected 10 to $20 billion cost. And essentially, the democrats that we've talked to don't really want to be associated with it because it's vaccine related, and it's kind of iffy and then the Republicans don't want to spend the money so we're just kind of stuck in this zone where the government has no accountability or no reason to help us the pharma companies are protected and basically no one wants to touch a hot potato so we're just stuck in the middle. You ever seen a movie Flash of Genius?

Starting point is 00:49:40 You ever seen Flash of Genius? Both of you guys have to watch Flash of Genius? You ever seen Flash of Genius? Both of you guys have to watch Flash of Genius this weekend because it's the story of, it's a true story of the man who invented the intermittent windshield wiper, okay? And he invents this and he takes it and shares it with Chrysler, Ford Motor Company, all these guys and he shows what he's invented because back in the day it's rain. You're driving. You don't have a way of wiping the windows so everybody would drive in rain. So it's like, now that we have windshield wiper, nobody thinks about it. But imagine if you don't have it. You live in a place that rains a lot. Seattle. How many accidents would happen because of this? He invents it. He takes it to them. They said, nah, it's not really that big of a thing. You didn't invent it. We did

Starting point is 00:50:23 this. We did that. I don't know how long it takes him to go through this lawsuit, the patent lawsuit. It takes five, ten, fifteen, twenty years. It costs him his marriage. It costs him him seeing his kids. It costs him friendships. But eventually he ends up getting paid some $20 million. It's a phenomenal story.

Starting point is 00:50:44 And the reason why you made me think about this, let me read the last paragraph. At trial, Kearns represents himself after attorney Gregory Lawson withdraws from the case. He's ran out of money, wife's left him, got nothing left. Because Kearns refuses to settle. The guy is not, I'm not settling with these guys. I want every damage you did to me. You cost me my life. Eventually Kern's ex-wife and children support him in his endeavor.

Starting point is 00:51:09 Then they come back. Toward the end of the trial, Ford offers Kerns a $30 million settlement, but without admitting wrongdoing. Kerns decides to leave his fate in the hands of the jury who determines that Ford infringed in his patents but that the infringement was not deliberate. The jury awards him $10.1 million. The closing credits indicate that Kearns later wins an $18.7 million judgment from Chrysler Corporation as well.

Starting point is 00:51:38 Do you think these stories that we hear, 5,000 people that are being hurt by eight people, that's why it's backed up, but you know, the results are not coming through. Biggest case so far was what, 8,900 and some change, you know, out of all this and even micro, myocarditis was what, 3,23 or whatever the number was all the way at the top, 8,962. Do you think this is going to be one of those cases where we're not going to get to the bottom of it for five, 10, 15 years? Do you think this is going to be one of those cases where we're not going to get to the bottom of it for five, ten, fifteen years? Do you think this is going to be one of those things? Okay.

Starting point is 00:52:10 Yeah, I think it'll be. There's kind of two things that could maybe happen. This is the most unlikely, but the government decides to take accountability for the wrongdoing and they do the right thing and help the people. Very unlikely, but that would be amazing. The other one is that we find Evidence of willful fraud that repeals the prep act immunity So for people that don't know the prep act shields not only the pharma companies from lawsuits

Starting point is 00:52:34 It also shields the government from lawsuits So the government and so government came in they shielded pharma and they shielded themselves. You said the prep act the prep act I have a right here Rob Can you tell what the prep PREP Act is about? Yeah, so I mean in the most basic sense it just provides an immunity shield for Farma and for the government. The way that Farma kind of talks about it is, hey, we had this product that we weren't sure if it was ready or not yet.

Starting point is 00:52:58 And the government came to us and said, Project Warp Speed, we need this product now. So you need to shield us in case anything goes wrong. And the government said, okay, we will shield you because we're asking you to rush this. But in the process of that, then the government also said, we wanna be shielded too. So it's like, we're gonna shield you because this might go wrong, but we also want the shield.

Starting point is 00:53:18 And the only way you can break the shield, really, is if you find evidence of willful fraud. However, that's really difficult to do because they can delete emails, they can hide things, and also they subcontract the trials. So if a trial has fraud in it, as long as Pfizer and Moderna says, we didn't know about the fraud, then they can't, like it's not willful fraud. Which they've argued in court already. Yes.

Starting point is 00:53:41 05, December of 05, this is under Bush. And if you go roll up a little bit, Rob, what does it say? GoPREPA provides $3.8 billion for pandemic preparedness to protect public health in case of pandemic disease outbreak. Vaccine manufacturers keyword lobbied for the legislation, which would effectively preempt state vaccine safety laws in the case of an emergency declaration of HHS, which we had recently, by making clear they would not produce new vaccines unless the legislation was enacted. Injured parties are compensated by the CICP, which we talked about earlier, the Countermeasure Injury Compensation Program. And so far, the biggest payout has been $8,900, give or take.

Starting point is 00:54:31 Nine thousand to be generous. Nine thousand to be generous. So we have the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act. We have the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program we just talked about. We have FDA's Emergency Use Authorization Vacc authorization vaccine administered under the EUA are also covered by the PREP Act. This legal framework facilitates the rapid deployment of vaccines while maintaining certain liability protections for manufacturers.

Starting point is 00:54:59 I mean, it's, and then you got last but not least, vaccine injury compensation program, which is what you just talked about, right? The VICP. Can I tell you one other thing that's kind of ironic is so the CICP, they have spent $26 million in administrative costs investigating the 13 COVID vaccine claims they paid out. So they spent $26 million to distribute 48,000. This episode is brought to you by Disney's Young Woman, NSC, now streaming on Disney Plus. They spent $26 million to distribute $48,000. or die trying. Trudy, you don't have to do this. Don't let anyone take me out of the water no matter what. Disney's Young Woman and the Sea, now streaming on Disney+.

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Starting point is 00:56:18 Quick crisp from Cavendish Farms. Made our way, enjoyed your way. Available right away. And this is all, I mean like this is all data you can verify. I'm happy to send links afterwards but this is what I've been living in DC having these conversations trying to find a pathway and ultimately they're just so well protected that unless a bill goes through like we need a hero like someone in house or Senate leadership to take this on and say, this is my priority and I wanna do the right thing by these people

Starting point is 00:56:48 that trusted the system and got thrown to the side. But that's very unlikely, so then the other option is we need a lawyer who comes in like someone like an Aaron Seary, who's extremely talented and can potentially find evidence of willful fraud. And things like Bree's lawsuit help us because we can get discovery with these companies. And once we go through the discovery process, we can keep learning more and more. Well, in addition to the

Starting point is 00:57:08 AstraZeneca lawsuit, we've also teamed up with Aaron Seary to file two other lawsuits against the CICP and the Prep Act. It was filed in Texas and the other one was filed in the federal court in Louisiana with several vaccine injured individuals who have filed claims through the CICP program. And so the CICP program obviously is failing a lot of people. There's a lot of people that want to go after them for this, right, and hold them to account. So Aaron Seary is essentially challenging the constitutionality of this program. How do you spell Aaron's name?

Starting point is 00:57:45 A-A-R-O-N-S-I-R-I. S-I-R-I. So A-A-R-ON and then S-I-R-I. That's him. Yep. Got it. And he just barely was in Washington, D.C. earlier this week testifying about this very issue. Yeah, if you go to his Twitter, he has a really good clip that was posted the other day from his testimony. Yeah, this one. And that one's about Mattie.

Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah, go back one more. I think there's one more other one. Yep, this one right here. Do you have any recommendations for Congress that in ways to ensure that the vaccine injured receive appropriate care and compensation? Yeah, the simplest way would just be to remove the immunity to the companies that make those products. It's now been many years that these products

Starting point is 00:58:29 have been on the market. Everybody here is saying they're safe. A lot of the folks I've listened to today say they're safe. There should be no reason to continue giving those companies the immunity to liability for injuries if they are safe, as has been advocated here today. Behind me is a representative from a group called React 19. This one group has over 36,000

Starting point is 00:58:54 seriously injured Americans from COVID-19 vaccine. It is run by two individuals. One was a clinical trial participant in the AstraZeneca. One received the Moderna vaccine. He was an orthopedic surgeon, had transverse myelitis. There are hundreds of medical professionals that are part of this group. They're a very serious organization. And, you know, people always tell me, you know, the folks who call your firm about vaccine injuries, they're anti-vaxxers. No, I assure you they're not, because the folks who have issues with vaccines don't get vaccines. They don't call us about vaccine injuries. It's only after they get injured. They get gas. What a simple argument. These

Starting point is 00:59:29 folks deserve 15 seconds. This is very important guys. Go back a play and just listen to what he just said here. Go ahead and play this clip. And you know, people always tell me, you know, the folks who call your firm about vaccine injuries, they're anti-vaxxers. No, I assure you they're not because the folks who have issues with vaccines don't get vaccines. They don't call us about vaccine injuries. It's only after they get injured they get gas lit in that way. These folks deserve our attention and our sympathy. Every person who's injured by a disease, whether it's COVID or any of the other diseases mentioned today, we should care about them.

Starting point is 01:00:07 We should take care of them. We should care about every child injured by any infectious disease, like the doctor here treats. But we should also care about those injured by vaccine products. And we don't. The CICP, we currently have a lawsuit. We have two lawsuits pending right now seeking to ask, asking a federal judge to declare the CSP program and the Prep Act community unconstitutional, because to your point, that program has zero due process. You don't know who your tri-fact is.

Starting point is 01:00:35 There's no opportunity for hearing. You don't know anything. It's basically a black hole. And they only have, and this is another thing Congress could potentially address, they only have a few million dollars. So even if they were not not constitutionally processed efficient, they don't have any money to pay anybody It makes a little too much sense what he's saying Yeah, and one other thing to just like kind of the David and Goliath aspect of this in 2022 Pharma spent three hundred and seventy two million dollars lobbying for these types of protections and provisions. React 19, our four-month budget was $15,000 for lobbying. So I've lived there for the last four months, went head-to-head, tried to do this.

Starting point is 01:01:14 Every time we go into an office, the Pharma lobbyists are there to kind of clean up a little bit afterwards. And we're just trying our best to try to have this very logical argument. But... So let me ask you, did you watch the debate last night? Yeah, I did. Did you watch the debate last night? I was on the plane.

Starting point is 01:01:28 Okay. So you haven't watched it yet? No. Well, you know, it's definitely entertaining for different reasons. But when you watch the debate last night, how many times did you hear accountability with Fauci, COVID, vaccine injured? How many times did that come up last night? None. And I can tell you why.

Starting point is 01:01:46 Why is that? Because Trump was responsible for Project Warp Speed, the Trump administration, and then Biden pushed the OSHA mandates and said it's going to be a long, hard winter for the unvaccinated. You know, if you don't get vaccinated, you're going to kill people. So both of them are complicit in this problem. And the only one that's actually saying anything about this is Kennedy. And he wasn't there last night. He wasn't there. He did his own live stream. I don't know if you saw that. Oh, I spoke to him and we had a strategically we spoke about what was the right move on what to do on that. Yeah, I mean, yeah. That's where we're stuck because in 2021 at the

Starting point is 01:02:20 Ron Johnson roundtable we did, I talked to someone that's high up in DOD and they said, the only way this is gonna change is if a new administration comes in and can point the finger. Because that's what they love to do in politics is they love pointing the finger and saying that guy was bad. But right now, both of them are complicit, so they can't point the finger.

Starting point is 01:02:36 So who is the most powerful man or woman right now or organization that wants to see you win? Maybe you? You're gonna need a lot more than me. But honestly, who is the most powerful man or women or organization that wants to see you win? I know people who do, we the people do, they want to see what happened, but I'm talking actually leaders that would like to see them. You can say Rand Paul, but you need more than Rand Paul. You can say, you know, many of these names, maybe Rogan, but you're gonna need more than that. Who are people that want to get things done that are willing to get behind it?

Starting point is 01:03:25 Well, what's interesting is I think there's that perspective of we need this one seminal figure, but in reality we need like all these little emails sent out to the House representatives and to the senators and basically showing there's a groundswell of support on the lower level. Because when I go into these meetings, I know we're up against pharma and it's going to be difficult. That's why I think litigation is our best chance, but from a constituency standpoint, the small emails, the small messages, like five people calling an office can make a difference. And that's the thing that people are afraid to talk about this subject because it's been so polarized. But then once you kind of explain it logically, and it's like, Hey, there's a failed compensation system here. People did their part. They were

Starting point is 01:04:02 injured. We should help them. Period. Yeah, I mean, the whole thing about, you know, all these people that are vaccine injured, they're anti-vaxxers. How the hell are you going to be anti-vaxxers when you agree to take it? The only argument could be for some of the people that were forced to take it, I think even you had to take it, right? For traveling purposes or competing, or what was your reasoning for having to take it? Yeah, I would say force is a strong word,

Starting point is 01:04:29 but so I was running YouTube at the channel, YouTube channel at the time, that was focused on like teaching people how to mountain bike more safely. And one of our largest audiences, people over 40 were getting into it and maybe don't have the ability to crash and kind of learn the hard way.

Starting point is 01:04:42 So they wanted skill instruction. And so we wanted to get vaccinated to travel and to protect the people at those clinics. Cause at the time it was said that if you got the vaccine, it would stop the spread. Right. And so we were like, well, we're going to be around a lot of older people. We're going to be doing these clinics. Let's make sure that we have it. And that was kind of the reasoning. And so if you wanted to go into that market and travel,

Starting point is 01:04:59 you had to, or else you couldn't. Yeah. You made that choice. Yeah. Got it. Got it. Yeah. To me, this was a very different kind of a position I was in. I was being asked by my board to hold a position to get everybody in the company vaccinated. And I said, look, to each his own, you do what you got to do. For me, I'm not comfortable with this limited amount of research. For many, many years, we used to read this book called this Bible Steroids, Steroids Bible, and type in Bible steroids, and it was version one, version

Starting point is 01:05:36 two, version three, version four, and we would read all of these books just to see what was up with steroids. And you're like, man, we don't have enough research right now for steroids, right? So some of these books were written 60 years ago, 50 years ago, 40 years ago. You want me to trust nine months of clinical trials on a drug for me to put on my body and I haven't seen what the side effects are on other people? I'm good. I'm not willing to do something like this. So for us, we somehow, someway, you know, chose to go to a different route. My dad took it, my nanny took it, and she got all the boosters and everything else, but we decided to go a different position. Thank

Starting point is 01:06:17 God nothing happened to my dad and my nanny, but we've heard some other stories that's going on. So, okay, so right now with where you're at, what's next? For a lot of people that are watching this, what's next? How can they help? How can they contribute? Yeah, I mean, I want you to talk about your lawsuit more too, because I think the litigation standpoint is really our strongest pathway forward. And so, Bre, with that contract law, can maybe get discovery and maybe help us in that way. The other thing is that at the end of the day, we need funding and this is all grassroots run.

Starting point is 01:06:48 We have 95% of the funds go directly to people that are injured. We've paid out over $850,000 in a care fund that's basically helping people get things like wheelchairs or treatments that they can't afford just to get their life back on. So React 19 has paid over $800,000 to the vaccine injured, whereas the US government's paid $48,000. Wow. So, you know, like, how much have you guys raised so far with React 19? We're just under a million.

Starting point is 01:07:11 Under a million dollars. And how long? In two years? Yeah, just under two years. In two years. Wow. And you paid out $850,000. And then there was also the other part, right, with the lawsuit.

Starting point is 01:07:22 If you don't mind going a little bit more into the lawsuits. So the lawsuits, unfortunately, because as Kyle illustrated very well, the government's broken. We all knew this. They're not going to help us. So because the drug companies failed us, and the government failed us, we had no choice but to organize. We didn't do this just for fun.

Starting point is 01:07:43 We did this out of necessity. After you meet a certain amount of people that all are dealing with the same syndromes that are fighting for their lives, that literally can't get any help, that are now living in their cars because the government can't figure out how to pay anybody anything for a mandated product that's shielded from lawsuits directly to the manufacturer, there was no other pathway forward. So we were like, okay, well, we got to organize, make a proper 501c3 nonprofit so then we can actually get hands into the people, money into the hands of the people that need it

Starting point is 01:08:19 the most. But then also so we can get these lawsuits going so we can organize and lobby appropriately on the Hill so we can apply pressure where it needs to be applied. And that's what we've done with a very small shoestring budget. We've been able to do quite a bit. We've got four historic lawsuits going on. There's the two CACP lawsuits that Aaron Siria has filed. There's the censorship lawsuit that's specific to vaccine injury that has been greenlighted

Starting point is 01:08:47 to move forward actually yesterday. And there's also this AstraZeneca lawsuit. But there's only one way that this is going to move forward and it's on a very grassroots level with grassroots donations. Yeah. And Pat, just one thing that's interesting is this has been done before. So like, oh, for sure. The question isn't that it's not been done before. Trust me Can you can you guys commit to watching that movie in the next week?

Starting point is 01:09:13 Yeah, can you commit to do that? And can you do me a favor when you do? Can you reach out to me because I want to talk to you after you watch the movie because to do what you guys want to do watch the movie because to do what you guys want to do you know there's there's three stages that they say you know truth goes through first you're ridiculed people laugh at you you're crazy come on guys yeah do you mind like you you guys are a bunch of anti-this, you're delusional. And then you're violently opposed, right?

Starting point is 01:09:49 Right there. German philosopher said, all truth goes through three stages, ridicule, violent opposition, which he went through with that intermittent windshield wiper. And then it's acceptance as self-evident. Unfortunately, sometimes phase three can take 10 to 20 years. So the most important asset to me are two different things. True believers that you attract and a high level of

Starting point is 01:10:15 stubbornness where you're not willing to give up until you get to the bottom of this. You know, the more you can attract people like that for this to become a reality, you need loud like that lawyer you're talking about, that lawyer, you need more guys like that that want to go out of their way to support. And then eventually, I said this last week on a podcast, I said, I don't, we're sitting right here, Rob, if you remember, I said, do you think investigating Fauci is in Trump's top five? Remember that? And what do we say? I said, no. I said, do you think investigating Fauci is in Biden's top five? It's not in his top thousand, right? I bet it's higher on Trump's than it is in Biden's, right? But if you ask RFK, it's in his top

Starting point is 01:11:03 three. Unfortunately, neither the left or the right wanted him on the stage yesterday, period. The only thing I have that I would be interested in, which I don't even know if it'll happen or not, is as an environmental lawyer like him, he said yesterday, you know, that, you know, his encouragement is to have Biden step out so he comes in and, you know, that, you know, his encouragement is to have Biden step out so he comes in and, you know, he runs to represent the other side and etc, etc. There's no way in the world Biden's gonna do that. You saw Joe Biden at the end saying, what a great job you did, Joe.

Starting point is 01:11:36 You answered all the questions and today, the Democrats Twitter account, did you guys see what the Democrats Twitter account was today? Can you go to it, Rob? This is their tweet today. what the Democrats Twitter account was today? Can you go to it Rob? This is their tweet today. Go the Democrats. Just type in the Democrats Twitter account. You should see. Go to right there.

Starting point is 01:11:54 Zoom in. Elon Musk tweeted it. The winner of tonight's debate. By the way, this is their real. By the way, look how many views it got. Look at the tweet. 67 million views is what that got. So he's not going to do anything.

Starting point is 01:12:14 He's not stepping away. So the only hope I have is if a Trump wins, who is more of an anti-establishment guy than Biden, Trump's not an establishment guy, for Trump and RFK somehow to agree to bring in where it becomes a Warren Commission type of a deal like you know Twitter files where Elon brought Matt Taibbi and Barry Weiss. For Trump to bring RFK and say here's the COVID files. Go tell us what you find. Well one more thing to your point too is Biden appointed Califf as FDA Commissioner and Califf is the one who granted Purdue Pharma the special use label for OxyContin.

Starting point is 01:12:54 So you have the guy who helped kind of create the OxyContin thing. Now he stepped out, he worked for Purdue Pharma for years, and then Biden appointed him as the FDA commissioner. So to your point, I think there's nothing that's going to happen with the current administration and that's what we keep seeing. And yeah, we need someone to advocate for us who can actually make something happen. I think those two guys could do it. I think if if let's just say, let's okay, this is what I would be doing it Strategically if I'm on the inside with Trump's camp, okay, I would go and invite

Starting point is 01:13:31 RFK tomorrow Lago You don't want to come tomorrow Lago. Let's have somewhere else a meeting where the story doesn't leak. Okay, let's be to Miami Let's meet in Carolina. Tell us let's meet Here's what the meetings's about. Look, man, they're not going to let you win. Okay? What's more important to you? Being in the debate and keeping six, seven points and losing and not being able to do anything or dropping out right now and I publicly announce that I'm gonna hire you as the guy that's gonna lead the Warren Commission type to investigate

Starting point is 01:14:11 what's most important to you that you had this case against Fauci the book that you wrote how about if we do that would you be open to that idea I think the right person presenting that argument to RFK and to Bobby I think the right person presenting that argument to RFK and to Bobby, I think he'll be open to it. Then for Trump to keep his word and publicly announce after RFK drops out, here's what we're gonna be doing. We are very proud to bring Bobby in here. He's not a Republican. We all know that. He's an independent, but in the last few years he's just made one too many arguments that a lot of people are concerned about, and we want to know. You bring him in.

Starting point is 01:14:48 Do you know what would happen if that kind of a—by the way, that day, I'm convinced that day it's over. I agree. Well, did you know that that already kind of tried to happen in 2016, where Kennedy was brought in, and then John Bolton basically ushered him out quickly thereafter? Well, Bolton's not here right now. So I mean, you know, everybody now knows what Bolton's all about. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:07 You know, what 16 year olds watch for, they get a kick out of pornography, to him porn is war. He wants war. He wants more of that. He lost credibility. He's nowhere here where he's not that, he's just feening for that. He lost a lot He's nowhere here where he's not that, he's just feening for that.

Starting point is 01:15:25 He lost a lot of credibility the last six, seven, eight years. But to me, in this situation when it comes out to today, I think that's the proper way to negotiate. I think there's a couple right people that can sit down and have that conversation with Bobby. I think Bobby's score for being reasonable is very high. And Bobby's score for being stubborn is higher high and Bobby's score for being stubborn is higher But that's what an environmental lawyer does

Starting point is 01:15:49 Yeah Well, and like you said like who's the person that's the highest on the totem pole fighting for us and I would say it's him I think that's the guy hands down right now, but I think that guy needs to be empowered and Bobby needs to answer one question Bobby what's more important to you? Bobby needs to answer one question. Bobby, what's more important to you, being a president with the way it's going right now or getting to the bottom of what the hell they did with COVID?

Starting point is 01:16:13 I think deep down inside to Bobby, it's two. I think Bobby's a fighter, and he wants to go prove himself right, that what he did to research, he's right. And I would do anything within my power to be able to broker that deal for that to happen. If I was in any way involved, they don't need me, they can do it themselves.

Starting point is 01:16:35 But I think that would be one way to go. And by the way, it's interesting, while we're going through AstraZeneca, I found something very interesting. Rob, can you pull this up? I found this on Reuters, and I don't know if you guys knew this or not. I just texted it to you, Rob. This is one interesting fact about AstraZeneca.

Starting point is 01:16:50 Do you have it, Rob? I just texted it to you. So I'm looking around, seeing what AstraZeneca is all about and what they're doing, and then I find this article, and it says, AstraZeneca will seek to love the Communist Party. Did you see this? No. Okay, so let me show this to you. It's China boss of AstraZeneca said we will seek to love the Communist Party. Go a little lower. Okay, so global drug make

Starting point is 01:17:21 AstraZeneca will seek to be a patriotic company in China that loves the Communist Party. Its China president said on Friday. Wang Lei, who is also the company's global executive vice president, made the comment at an event in the eastern city of Wuxi to celebrate the drug maker's 30th year in China according to a person familiar with the matter, while many local companies have in recent years pledged allegiance in the ruling of the Chinese Communist Party. President Xi Jinping has strengthened its social and economic role.

Starting point is 01:17:47 Such messaging is still unusual from foreign ones. Go LeLaw Robb and it continues, build a local transitional company that loves the Communist Party and loves the country. Wang said in his presentation to an audience of a few hundred participants, photographs show the word flashing across the screen behind him in response to questions from Reuters on whether Wang's pledge and the contents of presentation were approved by AstraZeneca Senior Management, a spokesperson at the company's headquarters in Cambridge declined to comment. So kind of strange where we still don't know where COVID came from,

Starting point is 01:18:26 that investigation still hasn't been done. I'm curious, a lot of people are curious. The world stopped, we lost trillions of dollars. In the video, when I watched the video, when you're getting emotional, you said you missed Christmas. You didn't buy gifts for your kids. You missed those times because of seven months being bedridden.

Starting point is 01:18:50 Even one of the pictures you showed, all of you guys seem like you're hiking. You're somewhere. You're hiking wherever you guys were at. Yellowstone. But I would have called you guys weird because you're hiking and you got a mask on. And I look at that photo now. But you don't even know how much more your story gives it credibility. Yeah. I don't know if you understand what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:19:11 When I saw people like you, I'm like, look at these weird people. You're outdoors and you got a freaking mask on. So you were like people that were fully for it. And now you're going through it. And I got to tell you, I mean, the only reason that we're doing any of this is because I've lived and seen the disaster firsthand with my own eyes. I wouldn't have believed anything that I was saying unless I had lived through it myself. The you know, what the NIH did, what the FDA did, the drug company did, you know, all of

Starting point is 01:19:44 it, you know, one of those things, one of those threads should be investigated and those people should be held to account, let alone all of them. And then you add on top of that the fact that nobody's talking about any of it. And we're just going to sweep it under the rug. Everybody just close your eyes and pretend COVID didn't exist. You know, it's toxic. Nobody likes COVID. Everybody is tired of talking about it.

Starting point is 01:20:05 But this will happen again in a different form if we don't face this and address this now. And just like the opioid crisis, big tobacco, all of the other things that are similar to this, they are continuing to build on these as they go. And the laws are continuing to strip away the rights of the American people and give our rights to pharmaceutical companies and big corporations.

Starting point is 01:20:33 And so now that we see this acutely and we understand this perfectly, crystal clear, we're going to do everything we can to make sure that we at least are a very clear barrier in the pathway of these big corporations that want nothing more than for us to go away and die quietly. Yeah. And you know what? I'm thinking about the immunity part where he said, all we have to do is get rid of you guys keep saying it's safe. So what are you worried about? It's so sad. Let's just get rid of it, right? But I safe so what do you worry about it so said let's just get rid of it right but i can also see in the negotiation room here's how the negotiation would work let's i'm gonna play both roles i'm gonna play the government and i'm gonna play the the insurance companies big pharma right uh hey pfizer we need this vaccine in nine months yeah man we need at

Starting point is 01:21:20 least three and a half years no no we need it in nine months. I can't give that to you. We're gonna, 100 million people could die, you know, well what do you mean you can't give it to me? Look, in nine months, for me to give you what you want in nine months, it's not fully safe yet. There could be a lot of risk. There could be a lot of issues. Well, what are you saying? Well, if you're willing to take the risk and and the cost that comes with it, then yes, we'll give you our best product that we have in nine months, but there's no way I'm gonna give you the product and have the risk beyond me if I can't get the three and a half years. We need it right now. Then give me immunity. Well, you know what? Just give it to them. No problem, we'll do it.

Starting point is 01:22:06 That's how I visualized that negotiation going. Because these guys want the victory to make the announcement. Right? And these guys are being cornered. And they're professional business people. They're negotiators. These guys negotiate policies. These guys negotiate money and deals. Broker and deals. So, they're going business people, they're negotiators. These guys negotiate policies, these guys negotiate money and deals, broker and deals.

Starting point is 01:22:26 So they're going to say, yeah, we'll give you the one that will have nine, and we'll take full liability if you give us three and a half years. Now, I want it in nine months. It's like wanting to build a building and the builder tells you, you want me to build it which way? I want it to be this, I want it to be hurricane proof, and I want it to be this, I want it to be that, I want it to be that, you want this, it's going to take us two and a half years to build it. No, I need it to be this, I want it to be hurricane proof, and I want this, I want this, I want that, I want that, you know, this is going to take us two and a half years to build. No, I need it in nine months.

Starting point is 01:22:48 No, in nine months, a tornado is going to destroy this thing. It's not hurricane proof. I need it no matter what. No problem. I'm going to give you a shitty product. So I think there's an element of that negotiation where sometimes, you know, you can force to have a product being delivered soon that's a shitty shitty product You know, it's the MVP and I think this COVID vaccine shot was an MVP and I don't put the I Don't put the responsibility and the onus on one side

Starting point is 01:23:17 I Put it on both sides I just I just simply go into negotiating and them and I feel some like that took place. Well, that's totally fair. And then the thing that kind of is a little different is that the government said, okay, we're gonna shield you, but we're also gonna shield us. So we're gonna take your liability risk and we're gonna shield us too. And then just... How did they shield themselves?

Starting point is 01:23:40 You can't sue the government and they didn't put a proper compensation program in place. shield themselves. You can't sue the government and they didn't put a proper compensation program in place. All the way, that's the other part of the Prep Act. So the Prep Act, you can't sue the drug company. You cannot sue health officials for willful misconduct. You cannot sue the health agencies at all. You can't even sue the guy that put the shot in your arm. Yeah, then if that's the case, I'm not a lawyer, but I can argue that.

Starting point is 01:24:04 Yeah. Meaning if I'm a lawyer right now, this is what I did for a living, I would easily want to go make the argument for that because that just doesn't make any sense to me. Not at all. There is no, even insurance companies rely on reinsurance companies. In the history of insurance companies, you will, I won't say never, but you can say, go find a life insurance company that went out of business that a life insurance policy wasn't paid out. Good luck finding it. Why?

Starting point is 01:24:34 The only stories you will find is, well, you know, they came back and when they did the autopsy or when they did this, they said the guy smoked, so because of that, he was in a two-year incontestability and pa-pa-pa-pa-pa. They didn't pay the quarter million dollars. All they did was pay out the premium of $6,000. Okay, those kinds of cases you're going to get because the job of a lawyer that works for an insurance company is to investigate so they don't pay the entire insurance amount to you.

Starting point is 01:24:59 You were driving, you did this, no, we're not going to pay the whole thing. It's only $22,000. You've got to pay the other $7,000. That's the job of the investigator that does that. But the reason why most life insurance companies always pay out the death benefit is because they also rely on another reinsurance company. So if insurance companies have reinsurance, why wouldn't we have this if pharmaceutical companies need a reinsurance? And in this case, the reinsurance has to be the government but

Starting point is 01:25:26 So then the government is really us the taxpayers. Yeah, I Yeah, that's where this term reasonable alternative remedy. That's what is really important here because The government said we're gonna basically take the liability risk and we're gonna provide a reasonable alternative remedy with the CICP program And we are suing saying that because there's no right to due process, no right to appeal, no right to an attorney, that is not a reasonable alternative remedy. And the fact that they paid nine grand is the highest settlement. Now that's not a reasonable alternative. This is this is this is a this just doesn't make any sense.

Starting point is 01:26:00 So to me, logically, this doesn't make any sense in free market or the US government. They have to figure out a solution for this. Yeah, I mean, if you're coming out with $2.1 trillion this, you can say we're going to set aside $2 billion of it to protect any injuries that could happen with this. Okay, cool. That makes sense to me. As a taxpayer, fine, I got you. I'm okay with that, right? But we're comfortable sending 200 billion dollars to Ukraine, but we don't want to take care of our people in America

Starting point is 01:26:31 that are maybe injured. It's a little confusing. So as a patriot, I can't make that argument. I can say the following, say you're a US president. I can say, okay, guys, here's what we have. Here's what we have. I can get the vaccine done for you before the end of the year. It's going to take nine months. If you want to take it, it can help you, possibly, with COVID. You're better off with your body taking it at three and

Starting point is 01:27:00 a half year mark, okay? But if you're that worried about it, we have something that's Project Warspeed. Take it out, you know, you got to take the risk that comes with it. If you do get injured, this two trillion dollars that we're doing, the government is setting aside two billion dollars for any injuries that may take place. But you are choosing to take the vaccine, and there is risk that you're taking with this, not on us. You can wait three and a half years or we can go, if I'm a voter, I'm sitting there and I see my president approach me that way, you know what I would say?

Starting point is 01:27:35 Okay, cool. I'm good with that. You know what? I'll take, you know what? I'll wait. I'll wait two years. No problem. It's probably going to be safer.

Starting point is 01:27:44 But the faster you take the vaccine, the less safer it's going to be. Then the husband and wife have to sit down and have the conversation together. I think that's common sense. And I hope you guys find some true believers and more stubborn people to keep pursuing this. Breanne, it's been a pleasure listening to your story face to face. You are somebody I watched on the video and the world saw when you shared that testimony and story and a lot of people sympathize with you that you've gone through it. I applaud your husband and wherever you are watching this, brother, I don't know you. Respect. I saw one interview that you did.

Starting point is 01:28:27 I don't know who you were sitting down with, but you also did an interview where you were being asked questions. I watched your podcast as well. I watched a couple of the stuff that you did in the past. I respect you tremendously as a husband and a father while this is taking place for you to do that. Much love to you, much respect to you, kids that are going through it. You have to know sometimes God puts you through something because you guys are going to be future leaders. Who knows, maybe one day we're going to vote for you guys

Starting point is 01:28:54 because this is going to inspire you to do something special with your life that we'll learn about 20, 30 years from now while we're in our 70s. I'm excited to see what you guys are going to be doing. I appreciate you coming out and sharing your story as well and the fact that more of you guys are finding each other. We're going to put the link below to the organization that you guys have. Rob, can you do that for the people on spot? Where can they find you guys, by the way? The react19.org.

Starting point is 01:29:20 Is it The React or React 19? React and the number one nine dot org so our React 19 dot org all the information is there We're gonna put that on the chat the description and the comment sections go to it learn about it Support them if this is something that's important to you And if you have other people that are going through this as well share this interview with them so they can learn more about how they can help and to those of you that are super stubborn and

Starting point is 01:29:58 Super true believer definitely get a hold of these guys and help them in any way you can Final thoughts before we wrap up No, I think that was great. I just one thing to say that was kind of interesting during this period You know, we got to talk to Peter Marx at one point who's the head of biologics at FDA and I asked him you guys Keep saying all these things are rare like what is rare? How do you define rare? He said well, technically we don't have a definition for the term rare It could be anything from one in a thousand one in a million just depending on the product And I think that's very interesting that you have this thing keep happening. They say, oh, it's rare, don't worry about it, but they don't even define what that is.

Starting point is 01:30:28 And so we're in this kind of gray area. And I appreciate you having us on, and we're just trying our best to get the truth out and just get more people on board. This was very helpful just to hear this. And I think nothing about this was like, oh, you know, they're this, and they're that, and they're Trump supporters, and they're, nope, I didn, they're this and they're that and they're Trump supporters and they're vandals of no, I didn't get any of those vibes. I just get the vibe that you're a Trump supporter wouldn't have missed yesterday's debate and would have woken up today and you would have

Starting point is 01:30:55 watched a debate first thing in the morning. So we know you're not one a Trump supporter wouldn't have said RFK is the only candidate which you sounded like you're supporting there. So for some of you guys, I kind of get get a little twitch when you hear stuff like that, you guys seem very reasonable and I appreciate you guys to come out here and sharing your testimony. Take care everybody. Bye bye bye bye. So if the testimony with Brianne Dressen and Kyle Warner is causing you to have some questions,

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