PBD Podcast - “No One Can Stop Me” - Dwayne Johnson Opens Up On Trump, Hollywood, Vince McMahon & Father

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

Patrick Bet David sits down with Dwayne Johnson for an exclusive interview. "The Rock" opens up about his career in wrestling, transitioning to Hollywood, and balancing family life. He touches on overcoming public criticism, finding authenticity, the impact of his father, and dealing with political rumors about his potential presidential run. --- 🇺🇸VT USA COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/47zLCWO 📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3Zn2Moj⁠⁠ 🏦 "THE VAULT 2024" RECORDING: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ejazrr⁠⁠⁠ 👕 VT "2024 ELECTION COLLECTION": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XD7Bsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XC5ftN⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ze3RUM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/47iOGGx⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4e0FgCe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3MGK5EE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📕 CHOOSE YOUR ENEMIES WISELY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XnEpo0⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4d5nYlU⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XC8L7k⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XjSSRK⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

the game. to wager Ontario only gambling problem call con ex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600. Bed FGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. I'm going back to university for zero dollar delivery fee up to five percent off orders and five percent uber cash back on rides not whatever you think university is for. Get uber one for students with deals this good everyone wants to be a student joined for just $4.99 a month. Savings may vary eligibility and member terms apply. Were you prepared for it? We're calling him Rocky. His name should be Rookie.

Was it like something you were afraid of? Was it something you mentally and emotionally were getting ready for? Or was it like, I'm never gonna be ready for this day? We never had a chance to reconcile that. So, that time has come. The man is in the arena. Hollywood conformed to you, to me, when I became authentic and when I became myself.

At this phase, how much leverage, power, credibility do you have where they know they can't screw with you because you're going to do it no no matter what do you have that kind of leverage yet or not yet? I wasn't prepared for it because it's the people you don't meet the ones behind the scenes those are the ones who are trying to hold you down. President? There's a thought of dude I don't want to f and mess with that at all. That job will take me away. For you to come out and say here's who I'm voting for? Yes.

That could be catastrophic for your career. Yes. What was your reaction when you saw the president be an assassin? A dark new term for a deeply divided nation. I mean, I just felt like, you know, if you. Here comes the man with the rock in cooking. When I wake up in the morning, I have got to be running towards the thing that I want

to do. Your father pushed you away from being a wrestler and the ultimate compliment to your dad is bro, I want to do what you did. I'm going to continue your legacy and tell the world you're my hero. As of now, the most important thing is to be a daddy to my little girls. How are you gonna get here? By being the hardest worker in the world. Hear if you smell what the Rock is cooking

Give it up to the one, the only, the weight, the Rock, Johnson Wow. Wow. Good to see you guys. Yes. Let's go. How are you feeling? I'm feeling great, brother. Thank you for that.

We've been waiting for this. We've been waiting for you to be here at the event. Everybody's been asking. Thank you so much. Good to see you guys. Here we go. By the way, just so you guys know, he is, I don't know if you can tell him what you're working on and how you got here.

It's not like you were in Florida. You have to get to the event. You have to get to the event. You have to get to the event. You have to get to the guys. Here we go. By the way, just so you guys know, he is, I don't know if you can tell him what you're working on and how you got here. It's not like you were in Florida. You have to get on a flight, come here, get on the flight, go back to where you were at. Maybe you want to share that with him? Yes, absolutely. So we're shooting live action Moana, which will be out, yeah, it's exciting, which will be out I believe next summer. And of course, as you guys know, many of you may know, we have Moana 2, the animated version will come out this holiday season. So I shot last night probably till about nine, 10 o'clock, wound up getting to bed after I put the babies to bed. I have all girls, got a

couple of hours sleep, got my butt on a bird, flew here with you and with you, and we're gonna have a great time. I love it. I love it. So, you know, one of the things maybe we can open it up with this because, you know, this room is filled with business owners, small business owners. Some brought their executives, some brought their sales folks, some can range from a small business doing a millionaire, some just raised a few hundred million dollars in the front.

They're maybe valued at a unicorn right now. Some are doing a billion dollars in top line revenue with a few thousand employees. And the conversation comes about going on a run or work ethic and how hard you work. Sometimes when somebody follows you on social media and Instagram, you kind of see the videos you're posting and hey, just got back to this and I got here at 2 o'clock I'm training and then see you seven o'clock in the morning. How hard do you actually work? Meaning what the audience doesn't see. How hard do you actually work DJ? Hard. I mean you have to work hard. Everybody in this room knows if it's worth something to you, you've got to put in the effort and you know the tricky thing as we know with social media is you let people in a little bit,

you let them in on what you want them to see. But at the end of the day, I always feel like social media may be the tip of the iceberg that you allow people to see, but it's everything underneath the water that they don't see. And I always like to say it's the work we put in when nobody's watching that really matters. It's easy, I think, when nobody's watching that really matters. It's easy, I think, when you go to work, you got a lot of people around, you galvanized everybody, you could feel the momentum and the energy start to go. And not to oversimplify the work, but it leads to work begets work.

So if we're all together in a room, we're going to work. But it's the stuff you do on your own, away from everybody, really that matters. So you gotta put in the work. How hard do I work? I work hard, like we all work hard, I like to say that. I guess the follow-up for that would be, the follow-up for that would be, you know that. That's my family, thank you.

Yeah, Ross family's here. But the follow-up for that would be on working hard. There's different reasons for it, right? Some people work hard because they're just like that. My dad's a hard worker. He's just wired like that. He's not doing it to anybody. He's not doing it to make money.

He's not doing it to build a business. From the day I've been young enough to remember my father till today, he works. You met him in the back 82 years old He's always moving. He's always working doesn't have any excuses for it But then there are certain people that work hard for different reasons you obviously are very super hyper competitive type of guy how much of the working hard is

Just because that's how you're wired how much of it is because you want to suffocate your competitors for them to say, yeah, I'm willing to go here, I can hang with him. He went here, I can hang with him. He's willing to do this, shit. All right, I'll hang with him. But he went here, I'm going to the club, right? How much of it is that additional intimidation factor

of your competitors that you're going up against? I think it's a combination of a few things. For me, I can trace back my work ethic to we were evicted out of our, we had a little efficiency apartment in Hawaii and we were evicted out of there, couldn't pay the rent. The rent was $280 a month. We eventually got kicked out.

When we got kicked out, I was 15 years old, I'll never forget it. I was standing there at the door. There was not the padlock, but the notice. And if any of you have had this unfortunate experience, you get evicted, they tell you in a week you gotta go. If you don't, then the Honolulu Police Department will come and They'll escort you out in that moment

I saw my mom crying and I just some of mama's boy and that kind of pain really Impacted me and I thought then I want to do everything that I can to make sure we never get evicted like this again And make sure that she is never this upset again Thank you. You know, and that then I thought, I didn't even know what that meant at 15 years old. It just meant I have to work. I have to work. I have to do something with my own two hands. So I have a philosophy these days that you got gotta put in the work with our own two hands

because this is the stuff that you can control. We control the controllables as we say. The other part is a competitive nature that is in my DNA and it's in my blood just like it runs in all of our constitution and our makeup here in this room and yours included where I love the competition, I love to win, and I also love to, I love the competition. I love to win. And I also love to learn. I don't say lose.

I say I love to learn. I would say it's a combination of that. For me the work ethic comes from I never want to be evicted again. Which is probably why I need therapy. And the other side to that. You are not alone. The other side to that is a competitive nature.

And that competitive nature, that never goes away. Do you think that is in you? Do you think that maybe pops behind closed doors, would say certain things to you that you remember? Do you think that somebody offending you that you said you're going to say that to me? Watch. What do you think that comes from? Like is it duplicatable or is it you either have it in your DNA or you don't I think there's versions of it that are duplicatable and I think

but we all go through our own journey and process so there's something I think that we all can tap into that becomes our juice and our wiring for me you bring up my old man my My dad was a professional wrestler at a time when professional wrestling, I think, wasn't as globally renowned as it is today. My dad was paycheck to paycheck kind of guy, and when I decided to get into professional wrestling, we had the biggest fight about it.

And ultimately, he said, look, I'm not too sure if you have anything to offer. I mean, it got to that level. How old are you at this time? I was 22 years old, 23, 22, 23. And I understand what he meant in his limited capacity to love. He meant, look, I live in this little apartment in Tampa,

right up the road, I-75, I don't want this life for you, I think there's more for you out there. And I said, yeah, but I got to follow my gut and my instinct. So I bring that up to say, along the road of life, we always have these moments that are seminal moments where somebody, sometimes it's a loved one like my old man, sometimes it's a friend, sometimes it's a boss, sometimes it's a stranger who says you can't do it, you're not good enough. Don't even try, pack your stuff and go home. Same thing happened to me in Hollywood.

When I got to Hollywood for the first time, when I got to Hollywood, I was coming out of the world of professional wrestling, WWE. And I was really determined, hopefully, to have a career that had longevity. And I was willing to put in the work and commit. What I realized at that time was there was a lot of naysayers and there was a lot of cynicism as I was getting into Hollywood. And I get it because you were successful in another place and now Hollywood comes knocking.

And now you wanna try and come in and make a name for yourself in Hollywood. It was a little tricky because I was coming out of the world of professional wrestling. It's just a unique animal at that time, a machine. So when I got there, a lot of people around me at that time who were part of my management team said, listen, if you really wanna make it in Hollywood, and even those who weren't part of my team

You know now looking back I could see the chest that they were trying to play back then They said if you really want to make it in Hollywood, then you can't call yourself the rock. You got to lose weight Don't talk about wrestling You have to and you have to look and walk and talk and act like these guys and these guys are the biggest stars in the world at that time. Johnny Depp, Will Smith, etc. If you don't know any better, you buy into that stuff, like I bought into that back then.

But then you start to realize something starts to eat at your gut about, well, this just doesn't feel right because I'm not being authentic, I'm not being myself. So finally, I said, a few years later, I said, I can't do this anymore. I have to be myself. Had a big meeting at the agency. I said, I'd like to have the same career as these guys, only bigger and different.

And I mean it respectfully. And they all looked at me like I had three heads. And I have a big enough head as it is. So they looked at me like I had three heads. And I said, listen, just because it's never been done doesn't mean it can't be done. Just means we gotta figure out a different path. So ultimately I wound up saying, look,

The Rock is a pretty cool name and I love wrestling and I'm also proud of where I came from. From this world of pro wrestling where it's my dad and my grandfather and I have a lot of family in pro wrestling. And then this unique thing happened when I was myself, and we can apply it to all of us here, business, life, et cetera, is Hollywood Conformed.

Hollywood Conformed. Conformed. To you. To me when I became authentic and when I became myself. And then I went, ah, I got it. At this phase, close your thought, finish your thought. At this phase, how much leverage power credibility do you have where they know they can't screw with you

because you're gonna do it no matter what? Do you have that kind of leverage yet or not yet? Not at this moment, but they felt the passion and they felt a little bit of momentum. I feel like there's a word that I use, it's called mana, and it comes from in here. It's like chi, it's like a power, like you could feel it. When we walked out and we all came in here,

like you could feel the mana in the room. I think they felt that at that time. And at that time, I had not had the credibility of any box office big hits or anything like that. But I did have what I felt, clarity, and how important that was. I'm not these guys. I'm not a Johnny Depp, I'm not a Will Smith,

I'm not a George Clooney, those guys who were big stars at that time, I'm me, and the most important thing I could be is authentic and be myself, and Hollywood then conformed. So, absolutely. And, and, this is, this is after when you first got into wrestling and, you know, Rocky sucks, Rocky sucks. And you are like, grab the mic.

There is a lot of things Rock is but sucks ain't one of them. Maybe I am not saying the right line properly. But was that kind of like you don't get to determine my reputation who I am. I'm taking control of this right up front. Is that like have you always been like that? Like hey, I know who I am. I'm not going to let you turn me into who I am.

Or was there a moment in your life where you conformed and you're like I feel like I'm in a cage. I don't want to be in a place like this. I know who I am. I'm going to go out and show it to the world. Was it that kind of a moment you had? Yes, yes. You'd like to be able to say, I'm wired that way, and we're all wired that way, but the truth is, we're human beings with big emotions,

and big swings that we take, ups and downs, and there was a moment where I did conform to the idea that, oh, I shouldn't go to the gym as much, and I need to lose weight, and I need to start getting insecure. I mean, yeah, imagine that. And in terms of Hollywood, right? Where they said, you have to be like this,

and don't call yourself The Rock, and don't talk about wrestling. And I thought, God, none of that felt right. So I did conform for a few years until I said, I'm not doing this anymore. So the same thing happened, none of that felt right. So I did conform for a few years until I said, I'm not doing this anymore. So the same thing happened, what Patrick is referring to. When I first started my wrestling career, I got there in the WWE,

and I have a meeting with Vince McMahon. And Vince says, okay, we're gonna bring you in, and we're gonna, he said, what's important to you? And I said, well, what's important to me is learning the business, even though I grew up in professional wrestling, still so much to learn and I wanna be good. I wanna be really good at what I do

and put in the time and put in the work and I would like to not, I'd like in a way, and I mean this respectfully, I said, I'd like to do it on my own. I don't want to be handed anything or given anything just because my grandfather wrestled for Vince McMahon's dad in the 70s, my dad wrestled for Vince McMahon in the 80s.

And I said I mean that respectfully. So maybe it's a different name change, but I just feel like I wanna do it on my own. He said, okay, got it. So your name is gonna be Rocky Maivia, which is your dad's first name and your grandfather's last name. And I went, that's not what I was hoping for.

Which again, the name is the name, you know, and people change their name all the time in entertainment. But the interesting thing to your point, Patrick, is that what he did say to me was, I want you to go out there and smile. You got a pretty good smile. I want to leverage that. I want you to go out and smile. He's probably got the best smile in the world. Some people have it. He's got it. And he said, I want you to go out there and smile. I want you to be grateful that you're

here every night. May made debut at Madison. Vince is telling you. Vince is telling me this. And I understood the logic at that you're here every night. May debut at... Vince is telling you. Vince is telling me this. And I understood the logic at that time. He goes, look, I plan on... It seems like you have potential. It seems like eventually we're going to create an opportunity to give you a push. I would like for you to come in and not feel entitled, not feel... I want you to feel... I want the audience to feel that you're grateful. So I want you to smile all the time. So I would go out every night and my music would hit,

just like this happened here, and I would come out and I would smile. But then when I would get beat, I had to smile like coming back to the locker room. And you know, eventually people just started to feel like, well that's not real, it's not authentic. And I started to feel that too, it started to really eat me up inside. So what Patrick's referring to about Rocky sucks, eventually this wild thing

happened in professional wrestling where I was given a push, became Intercontinental Champion in the world of WWE. And in every arena across the country, the whole arena was chanting Rocky sucks, but I was a good guy and I was a kid I was 24 years old and I Knew every night this has something has to happen It's like when you're holding a ball underwater that analogy eventually got a little had to go And I said something's gonna happen here, and I don't know what's gonna happen But this doesn't feel right and I'm not being myself you would walk out and I don't know what's gonna happen, but this doesn't feel right, and I'm not being myself. You would walk out, and I would hear people go,

you suck, and hey, thank you, appreciate it. Like, it was that kind of thing. Very inauthentic. And then I wound up getting hurt that summer of 1997, sent home, did rehab on my leg, came back. When I was coming back, Vince said, I'm gonna turn you heel, which is wrestling parlance for a bad guy.

And I said, okay. And he goes, if you don't work as a heel, and it doesn't work out, then I don't know if you have a future. I went, okay. Who's in the room, just you and him? Me and Vince, yes. It was always straight up.

We had that dynamic, always straight up, always open and real. And I said, okay, I said I have one request, what you were referring to. I said, we have a live show, Monday Night Raw, two hours of live television, can I have the microphone for two minutes? I just wanna express myself.

And he went, oh boy, I don't know about that. I said, just give me one minute. He said, fine. So I take the mic and I get on, and this is live TV, and I said, you know, the whole crowd is chanting Rocky Sucks and I said, okay, I gotta tell you something. I'm a lot of things, but sucks isn't one of them. And me joining this faction as a bad guy,

I said, it's not a black thing, it's not a white thing, it's a respect thing, and a respect that I'm gonna earn every single night. And within two months, I became the hottest bad guy in the company and then turned into the rock. And years later, I'm sitting here with you and sitting here with you.

Un-freaking-believable. Unbelievable. Oh. So, now, just one thing, just to underscore the most important thing I think the takeaway there is being real and being yourself. And that's what I shared with Vince. I said, look, I can't smile. Why would I smile?

I'm coming out of the University of Miami. We were dogs, man. We were bad dudes. Yes. The you. I said, and this is wrestling and this is my blood and I love it and I wanna talk shit and I'm gonna raise my eyebrow

and drop fools on the people's elbow. And so it's like that kind of thing. I said, it gotta be real and be authentic. When you said Skinny, you just took me somewhere because I'm trying to see which movie you were Skinny in. The one movie you did, and this is going to sound weird that I even seen this movie 10 plus times. It's with you and Vince Vaughn.

Is it Twinkle, Twinkle? Be easy. Be cool. Whatever you say. Be cool, yes. Oh, be cool. Because you were skinny in that movie, right? Yes.

Is that kind of when you're like I'm going to go in any mode? It was during that time where I went on these crazy diets. Who's seen that movie? If you have seen that movie, you are good people. I love that movie. That's when you are like I'm going to go to the skinny Hollywood model tab because big guys won't make it nowadays. I was told that and you start buying into it.

If you have no point of reference or experience but you have people around you telling you, we know this business, this is what you need to do to become a leading man and to become a movie star. You can't be what you were, you have to be what they are. Then you realize, well, actually, the most important thing is to be what I was and am and will be tomorrow and that's real.

And again, that's when everything starts to conform Hollywood conformed and I find like What I have found I'm sure you guys will agree is that when you take that kind of action that kind of step of Following your gut and your intuition taking that step. Whatever it is universe has a funny way of meeting you halfway so Absolutely, DJ. I love how you're speaking in a way where we're all in the same level, including yourself. You know, because in life there's levels to life, okay? There's levels to the game.

And I'm sure there's levels to the game. But let me kind of walk you through the levels. And I think it's important for everybody to realize this. So let's say a guy starts off with only $7 in his bank account. Let's just pick this case study, whoever this guy may be. Starts off with $7 in his bank account, goes, recreates his identity, becomes the biggest name in wrestling, most

electrifying man in wrestling, goes into movies, makes it highest paid actor, I think four out of the last seven years. I don't know what the number is. I think three or four out of the last seven years. I have the data, 84 million, 87 million, 270 million in 2021, I think it was, whatever it was. I'm not counting your money, but you made a lot of money.

Right? Made a buck or two, yeah. Then you got Zoa, then you got this, then you got that. And then social media following, you know, 1 million. Oh, my God, the guy's got a million followers. 10 million. Wow, 10 million followers. 100 million. And then there is the 600 million community.

There's not a lot of people in the 500, 600 million community and that's one of one. Then, I don't know if you guys saw this seven years ago, I'm trying to figure out when this came out. And it was saying, who is the most recognizable face in the world? Like when you go out there, they're gonna recognize your face.

I think you were at like 56, 54 percentile, that means 54% of the world, no matter where you go, they're gonna say, I know this guy from wrestling, from movies, from this, from that. So some people may go up and they'll compete, and they'll go, man, this fricking wrestling thing is great, I'm partying, I'm drinking, the girl's fricking awesome, we're going to Japan,

we're going to this, what a fricking hardcore party and stuff I'm doing, I got nice jewelry, I got nice clothes, and I'm happy where I'm at. And so, nah, that's not enough for me, I wanna be this. Nah, it's not gonna be easy to transition to movies, I'm gonna do it, and you go this, I'm so, okay, and then in the movies, oh, listen, just be happy that you're an actor, no, no, I'm not just,

I'm gonna go, and then that's, and then, you know, I'm gonna start a drink, and I'm gonna do, tell them I'm gonna, and I'm gonna go do this. To get to the highest of the highest of the highest level, where it's not 1% or.1% or.01%, it's one of one. You're a one of one camp, Tiger is a one of one, Michael's a one of one in their camp, right? Tom Brady last year, Ron Stage, I asked him a question,

because he's another one of those one of ones. I said, generally when I look at guys that go to that level, I see there's three things they have in common. They have one person in their lives that gave them unconditional love. You have to experience that to tolerate the pain. But all you need is one person. You need one person to give you unconditional love. Mom, you need one person in your life

that no matter what you do, you will never win them over. It's like it's never enough. I can go get this. I can go make this money. I can go win this award. They're always going to be like, yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah. It's kind of like he hasn't done enough yet. Then there is those who have those two, but then they choose their enemies wisely.

For whatever reason, some people don't choose their enemies wisely. They choose an enemy lord in them. They choose an enemy that produces the bad feelings, but they choose their enemies wisely. To become one of one and to go for as many years as you've gone and the highs and the lows and the losses and the injuries and the setbacks and all this other stuff that you go through, what drives you? It's a new day. How can you make the most of it with your membership rewards points? Earn points on everyday purchases. Use them for that long-awaited vacation. You can earn points almost anywhere and they never expire. Treat your friends or spoil your

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available in refreshing lemon, lime, passion fruit, and strawberry flavors. Buy a stick in store at Costco, Walmart, Amazon and other Canadian retailers. You mentioned about choosing enemies wisely, which I love that. And we've heard that term. Certainly you've embodied that term as I always like to say, you choose your enemies up and choose up for the enemies. But also what drives me is, I'll take it back, there was some cheers in here at the University of Miami.

When I stepped onto that campus in Coral Gables, we were hungry, dogs, but also it was there that I started to understand, number one, it was really challenging to be a student athlete back then and certainly now. It's almost like having a pro career at the same time as being a student, especially today. But what Miami allowed me to do, none of us had money,

we were broke but we were hungry and we put in the work. We always like to say we were the hardest workers in the room, that's where I got that term from. But also that place and that culture, that winning culture, winning culture that we all want and that we're all part of, I wanna continue to grow the winning culture. What Miami, it was almost like a forcing mechanism.

What it allowed me to do was realize there's more and think more, think for more. You don't have to be just this, especially when there's a lot of people who are against you and at that time, University of Miami, we were the bad boys of the game at that time. And we played ball, won national titles, et cetera, but at our core, it was, no, we could still be dominant, but we could still go for more. So I learned that there, that you don't have to stay in something like this.

You could do more. And then I started to understand, as I started to get down the road, that, oh, you don't do it by yourself, because I used to be very hands-on, micromanaging, and it served me for a little while. Then I started to be very hands-on, micromanaging, and it served me for a little while. Then I started to realize it started to be counterproductive for me.

Oh, you don't do it by yourself. Bring in a team of people. Choose your enemies up, choose your partners up, people who are a lot smarter than I am, which isn't hard to be, at what they do. And then you can continue just to fortify this idea that let's do more. So, for example, we talk about levels, right? And everybody has achieved some sort of level of success in this room.

Massive, growing to be massive, ambitious, etc. So I, like you, we've talked about this. We're lucky boys to be able to get to do what we do, but man, the work ethic, the drive, that hunger to compete, it never goes away. Reached this point in my career where I started to realize, oh, you know, I've done pretty good, and we're sitting up top on this mountain.

And I realized, this happened, probably it was a big revelation for me about a year ago, where I thought, okay, I'm on top of this mountain. And I realized, this happened probably, it was a big revelation for me about a year ago, where I thought, okay, I'm on top of this mountain, a few things can happen from here. I reached this point in my life. We could either stay here and enjoy the view, and bask in it, or we could go back down the mountain, right off into the sunset.

And I thought, well, the first two don't seem like it's in my DNA. I know what we should do. Let's go build know what we should do let's go build more mountain not only let's go build more mountain but the difference is for me is now bringing everybody with us to build more mountain as well so everybody can get a not only so everyone can take accountability for the work ethic that we're all gonna put in but everyone can enjoy building this mountain too as well. Because what happens is ultimately,

as we go along in the road of life, you become so uniquely focused, myopic, on the thing that you wanna attract and compete for and accomplish. You and I were talking backstage about that, about just everything that you have done and continue to do. It's funny, I said to David backstage, I said, so is there gonna be a moment about just everything that you have done and continue to do.

It's funny, I said to David backstage, I said, so is there gonna be a moment, if you don't mind me sharing this, he went, would you go to Hampton's? Yes. Yeah, okay. He said, and I looked around, it just felt so good, and I said, so is that gonna be part of a lifestyle for you one day, where you kind of just unplug?

And it was as if I said, hey, do you mind if I slap you in the face? Because he looked at me and went, no, not at all. And I went, that's my guy. That's right. So I think it for me, the drive just comes from wanting to do more. So let's go back to that. This is great. But I want to go a little little deeper on this. So for from a fan standpoint, Arnold, his enemy was Sly. They went up against each other.

And you know that story about when Arnold made it seem like he was interested in this one movie. I don't know what the movie. Oscar. Throw Mama from the Train. Yeah, what was the movie called? Throw Mama from the Train. Is that what it was?

Yeah. I'm going to go, no, yeah, the Train. Is that what it was? Yeah. That's the biggest flop. For Michael, maybe it's to Isaiah being left off the dream team or Magic or Bird or later on maybe a Malone or maybe Akim or maybe in the past trying to out the wilt or whoever it is, David Thompson, all these other guys as the greats. You go into business, you have certain names that must keeps going and he's not stopping It's constant like how much more money do you need to make you're worth a quarter of a trillion dollars. You're still going

Who were some of those enemies throughout that brought in the best in you some names like I can drop some names But I'm curious enough you have any names. Sure. So for example, maybe would you consider John Cena as one of them? Would you have considered Stone Cold, Steve Austin as one of them? Would you have considered maybe a Will Smith as one of them to outdo?

Were they some of the guys that drove you to compete against them? Those guys, I know all those guys, and we competed on a great level, but you know, the truth is, in wrestling it's a little different. You still compete, you still have to keep your head on a swivel. And I always like to say, it's shark-infested waters in that world,

in this world too, business, entertainment, sports, sports entertainment. Here's what I will say, when I got to Hollywood, you mentioned Arnold, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Clint Eastwood, and Bruce Willis. Those four men were so good to me when I got to Hollywood, and they didn't have to be. They were biggest stars in the world at that time,

20 years ago. They were welcoming stars in the world at that time, 20 years ago. They were welcoming. I would see them out. They would come to me or say, hey, I wanna see The Rock. Can I meet him? Say hello. We all stayed in touch, became friends. And I never forgot that because they were in positions

where they didn't have to be. And I realized though, to your point, Patrick, is the ones who are confident in themselves, confident in their success, and want to see not only the business grow, but want to see people do well. And especially, I feel like I'm a decent guy, you want to see somebody who's a pretty good person do well. It's the people you don't meet, the ones behind the scenes.

Those are the ones who are trying to hold you down. So I realize instead of searching for those guys, and also those guys are really, and you guys will find this in business too as you know, the ones who are confident, quiet in the room, it's like in a board meeting, the quiet ones will sit and they're really the powerful ones in the meeting who make all the decisions.

The quiet ones, the ones who are behind the scenes trying to hold you down, those are the ones who are chicken shit anyway, who will never come to you, you'll never see them. And I realized instead of me trying to find them or try to figure out well, who made that call and why did this happen, I thought okay, I'll always remember the people who are good to me and then I realized the person I compete with most is

just me. It's you versus you. And I think that's something we can all, yeah, attest to. You versus you. I want to believe you. Okay. But and that's very nice what you just said. Fantastic.

But I'm not convinced. I what you just said. Fantastic. But I'm not convinced. I think you're a psycho competitor. And I'll say one thing. I am. I'm crazy. I think you're a psycho competitor. But I think, I think like, I'll give you an idea.

When I was watching Brady speak while he's playing and they would ask him questions, he would give his answers in a very interesting way. It would be, yes, they were the better team today. And the reporter's job is to ask a question to have a story, right? And Brady was a pro. He wasn't going to give him shit, right? And he knows the game because you also know this, right, while we're going back and forth.

And then I'm like, but I would watch Brady in the game, he playing against that Kansas City Chiefs. Who was the cornerback or the safety that he went in his face afterwards and he bumped him? Who, what was the guy, do you guys know who I'm talking about? Number 32, what is number 32's name in, what was his name? Who? Oh, the Badger. What's his name? That's what it is, yes. So he goes in his face, blah, blah, blah. This guy's freaking 40 years. Look at this.

And then he comes after the interview. I shouldn't have done that. I lost control. It's not how you behave. I'm like, dude, stop it. That's exactly how you behave I'm like dude stop it that's exactly how you behave as a crazy competitor but then you know we had Bill Belichick at our event a month ago in MGM and he comes in he's no longer coaching so he can talk a little bit yeah you know you know what I'm saying is like listen I don't give a shit right now he's got some freedom he's got a 25 year old girlfriend he really doesn't give a shit what you think about him right now. He's like, dude, say whatever you want.

I'm freaking Bill Belichick, right? But I got a flavor of it with Brady last year and even with Kobe because when Kobe came and we did the late-grade Kobe, to me Kobe is just, you know, I have a very unique relationship with Kobe. I love Kobe. My father and I, it was a whole different thing. When he came to the event at Mirage and did the interview, it was after he had retired and guess what? He was a little bit more loose.

I said, hey, if Shaq had your work ethic, what would have happened? He said we would have won 11, 12 rings. Shaq got pissed at me and blocked me. Who the hell hell you think you are for two and a half years? He's blocked me. Then I invite him to the event. And we had a great conversation together. Do you think a part of you with where you're at in

your mind, it's I don't want to give the media nothing. So the next day, nothing's going to be written about me. And you are so great of a natural communicator that you know how to give an answer. But the levels of the answer of, you know, not necessarily vanilla is here, you will go here. But this is 24-48 hour news cycle. You play right here right now at this phase of your life. Would you say that's kind of where you are? Yeah, I think as you go down the road of life you start to realize you like to think you get a little savvy little media savvy

but also to You go down the road of life and you experience what you experience where you're always in front of the media You either go this way at the fork of the road and this way is I never want to talk to them again, or this way where you say, look, we all got jobs to do, we're all in this business together. I'm an open book, you can ask me whatever you want to ask me. I always tell that to anybody who I sit down with.

The thing that I realized is I have to be very clear and concise with my answers, dependent on the subject, because as we know, clickbait time, that's all everybody wants, and they'll take the answer, they'll spin it, clickbait, and then just move on. When you realize, oh wait, that's actually not what I said, you're taking it and you're spinning it. So the balance is I don't want to not speak to media. I've got a lot of friends in media as you do too as well. And again we're all in this thing together so I can control the controllables about what I say and how I say it too as well. And the reason why I'm asking this question from you on the enemy side is because at some point you

got a beautiful house, you live in a beautiful place, you got your place that you told me in the back that you like to go to, you know, family, fishing. I love your fishing videos. When you're doing your fishing videos, you're out there, you know, you're doing your thing and you put them out and then boom, next. You know, you've had the success, the fame, the

recognition, the accolades, all this stuff. Eventually it gets to a point where it's kind of like, you've had the success, the fame, the recognition, the accolades, all this stuff. Eventually it gets to a point where it's kind of like, you know, what's going to drive this guy to go to the next level? So if you're saying enemy up, maybe I'll ask this one question on this one. Let's see if we'll get anything out of you on this specific topic. Is there a next enemy for you where you're kind of a, and maybe we don't even need to say enemy, it's the next thing you say, an enemy up, like compete up.

Is there a next target for you where you're like, this would be interesting for me to play in this space? I'd like to be able to do X, Y, Z. Is there anything like that or no? Well, there's always stuff like that. I think that I've gotten really lucky and fortunate over the years to have accomplished what I've been able to accomplish,

but again, the hunger doesn't go away. I like to say I got a full plate, but I could always make room for the stuff I love. And I've reached that point in my life where when I wake up in the morning, I have got to be running towards the thing that I want to do and not walking towards it, not, I really don't feel like doing this or why did I agree to do this or why did I get into this business with somebody, et cetera.

I got to be running to it. And I realized that if I'm able to do that, get up in the morning and run to it, then I'm in that place of joy and happiness. It doesn't mean that the work goes away, the work ethic goes away, you work even harder, but so I got to run towards it. So the second part to this to answer you directly is I don't know if there's anything that I could point to and say I've never done that therefore I want to do it. But I can tell you that what I do these days, I run to, I love, and also, so for example, and I feel like it could tie into everything we're doing in here, we all rely on the product, the brand, the

consumer, the customer, the people, the audience. For a long time, what I used to do is think audience first. That was important. And it served me very well. Consumer first, customer first, guest first. However we qualify our audience. And it served me very well. I started to realize, oh, but I'm not running towards this particular thing. So what I realized is now it has to be the, but I'm not running towards this particular thing. So what I realized is now it has to be the thing that I do, has to be the thing that I love to do and therefore almost like Hollywood conformed years ago.

I found that if it's the thing I'm running to and I love to do then everybody comes with me. Got it. Okay. So. I was there for an answer. Well, again, what you call a professional, right? But no, I get it. Okay. So how's that for an answer? Well, I again Professional right, but no I get it. So so I guess let me let me transition into this one for

for me PBD podcast on PBD podcast. We're shooting the shit talking shit, you know, we're doing tile current events Whatever we're talking about bunch of different things right and just a couple boys guys sitting down talking Hey today this happened. Let's talk about this today this happen. We'll give it a bunch of different things, right? And just a couple boys, guys sitting down talking, hey, today this happened, let's talk about this. Today this happened, we'll give our opinions, right? And you're a family guy, you got three girls, I'm family, I got four kids, and you know, of course, you have to kind of figure out the future

and you know, where the future's gonna go. In your gym, I think you got a flag in your gym, right? Don't you have like a big flag in your gym? You keep an American flag everywhere right everywhere you go there's always an American flag and you're a patriotic guy you're a guy that loves this country you have a military following you have guys that look at you from that standpoint and today America is a little bit kind of weird politically we're in a very weird place right now in America from the left

to the right and the divisiveness the last four years, I feel like politics has always been nasty and ugly. But in 01 you went and spoke at the RNC, it wasn't crazy, you just spoke boom out. Hey, DNC, boom, boom, boom. You've done a couple of these things. But the last four years, nasty, today, election, nasty, assassination attempts, seven weeks ago, July 13th, I don't know what today's date is, today is what, September 7th, just seven, eight weeks ago,

right? And your name is always on the vaguest odds of running for president, always. And you'll see it, 40 to 1, 100 to one, 80 to one, all these other things, right? And you're looking at this, and I have my own people on the list on who I think will be running 28, 32, but how do you look at this as a guy

that has been in a lot of boardrooms, you're dealing with REs, right? You're dealing with, no, we don't wanna dealing with, no, we don't wanna pay this, no, we don't wanna do this, and then they negotiate the contract, and then you have to do the movie, and the people that may be overpaid or underpaid or whatever they do, you still have to figure out

where to get along with them. You've been on a lot of tough meetings behind closed doors that nobody knows about, it's not been written about, but you've been in it. And you have to find a way to do this, right? You have to find a way to do this to the two parties. If the rocks president today, how do you figure out a way to synergize and bring back America to be in United instead of a little bit divided that we are today? After decades of shaky hands caused by debilitating tremors, Sunnybrook was the only hospital

in Canada who could provide Andy with something special. Three neurosurgeons, two scientists, one movement disorders coordinator, 58 answered questions, two focused ultrasound procedures, one specially developed helmet, thousands of high intensity focused ultrasound waves, zero incisions. And that very same day, two steady hands. From innovation to action, Sunnybrook is special. Learn more at sunnybrook.ca slash special. I think that, well, first of all, let me just say, when it comes to stuff like this, I never speak declaratively.

I'm always open and flexible and I think you've got to be that. When it comes to the divisiveness you talked about, it's the main thing that really eats away at my gut. I know you too. We've talked about this and I know for a lot of you as well. I think if the main, I always like to say keep the main thing the main thing. And if the main thing is to bring our country together. For anyone in the presidential leadership space,

there's a few things I think that are important. And I'm gonna take a crack at this. Is for unity, I'll start with guidance. And what I mean by that is this, the ability to listen and pay attention to everything and everyone around you, regardless of where they're at and where they sit on whatever side of the aisle or other side of the fence. The other thing I think would be grit because I feel like if the goal is unity amidst this crazy division that we have today that we can all agree on and if the goal is unity amidst this crazy division that we have today that we can all agree on. And if the goal is this, as you said, bring everybody together,

there's gonna be a lot of bumps in that road. And there's gonna be a lot of people who are cynical about this idea and this ideology of bringing people together as one, never gonna happen. They'll have their knives out. So I feel like as you go down that road, if that's your goal is to bring people together, you gotta have a lot of grit to get through all those knives and all those bumps, but it can be done. I believe that.

The other thing would be, I think, humility in that you're probably not gonna know all the answers to these questions. And that's okay. And I always like to say, and I know you guys feel this way in the room too, look, like just because something's never been done doesn't mean it can't be done. It just means we haven't figured out a way to do it yet. It doesn't make it impossible. So I would say humility and strength.

You got to have strength to stand up in the face of this kind of adversity and to stand up and say, it is that time to bring everybody together. Oh, and I'll say one more thing too, I think you gotta be positive. I think it's important. Positivity, I think, is important. And be good to people.

Do you think that should be the goal? Do you think the goal should be unity? Do you think that should be the goal? Do you think the goal should be unity? Do you think that should be the goal? Because I like the way you said it. You said if that's the goal, right? So maybe that's like you almost like, like my parents, when I was a kid, my parents got divorced twice to each other, right? Since 11 years old when the divorce papers came into the

house, it was a very difficult six months. Mother crying every day, which is tough, right? Like, oh man, you know, my dad would always, when he would come home, we had a class in Iran, in Iran, and we were on the fourth floor, and the moment I would see my dad's head go like this, I knew he saw him, I'd run up, it was the happiest moment of my day,

and at 11 years old, I realized, that's never going to happen ever again. And my entire goal as a kid, young boy, was what can I do to get these guys to come together? No joke, by the time I was 16 years old, I said that's no longer the goal. It's just never gonna happen. And I stopped trying at 16. They're better off not being together.

And you have to find a way to coexist in these two different Philosophies that's out there my dad on one end looked at world in a complete different way than my mother did Do you think progress? For us to get to the next level is try to unify or do you think? You have to find a way to lead and have policies in a chaotic environment. What do you think I? think the key is before unity is the desire and the openness to listen to each other. It's okay if you have a difference of opinion. That's okay. It's okay if... Because ultimately I do feel like we're all looking towards the same North Star. So whoever that leader is and becomes for us, whoever the president is,

I'd like to think and hope that they can hold that same North Star for all parties and all people. And how important that is. So I think probably the path to unifying is the openness to conversation. Like if you bring up 01, I think it was, or 2000 with the RNC, even back then. So even say 10 years ago, you can have a conversation about, oh, I voted for this person, I voted for this one. Okay. Today? Nothing.

No way. You cannot do that. Especially? Nothing. No way. You cannot do that. Especially in your world. Sure. I would say in your world is probably the highest score out of everybody. Would you agree like in Hollywood, in a celebrity for you to come out and say here's who I'm voting for?

Yes. That could be catastrophic for your career. Yes. Okay. What was your reaction when you saw the president being assassinated? Do you remember where you were and what happened and what was the immediate reaction to you, the assassination attempt?

Yes, I was up in Vancouver, Canada and we were filming a movie and I got home and Vancouver, there you go. Again, my family. A beautiful, beautiful place, I love that city. I got home, turned on the news and well, first I hit my phone, turned on the news, and I saw that. My reaction was, this is not who we are.

And I hated that this is who we have become on this day. That was my reaction. What was the... When you saw the blood, hand up, American flag, did it give you any, like, did you get any feeling of you know? This is great to see a leader standing up after that. Did you get any kind of mojo like that or? Yes, I mean I just I felt like you know if a Centimeter in a different direction or less

That would have been a different story And The fact that he came up out of that, that was a big deal, and that was a big, I think, regardless of who it was, whether you love Donald, you don't love Donald, it doesn't matter. Somebody tried to assassinate him.

And there's no room for that. And, yes. And despite it being who we were in that moment, I still believe in my core, that is not who we are as a country. So him standing up in that moment, you wanted to see that. And it was also, it was an important moment for everybody to see regardless of who it was for that person to stand up. We were half an inch away from having chaos all over.

It would have been in shambles if that shot would have hit them. Do you have a Donald Trump story with wrestling? Do you have a Trump story? Yes. What's your Trump story? Oh, Trump, he used to come watch me wrestle all the time at Madison Square Garden. Everybody has a Trump story? Yes. What is your Trump story? He used to come watch me wrestle all the time in Madison Square Garden.

It was great. First time I saw him, let me see the eyebrow. You got it. There it is. That's cool. So he was a fan. He watched you as a fan. Huge.

Yes. That's cool. Used to come to Madison Square Garden all the time he was a fan. He watched you as a fan coming into the shop. Oh, huge. Yes. Yeah. That's cool. Used to come to Madison Square Garden all the time. Big sports fan.

Yeah. So question. This is my prediction side. Let's play a game of predictions. And I always love to play prediction games. It's good for shooting the shit in conversation, right? So I think there's a handful of people that either auto-consider running 2028

and I think the timing would be, 2028 is more important than 32, my opinion. And I know in the movie Young Rock, your first episode interview is, it's 2032. We have President Dwayne The Rock Johnson here and I don't know who's interviewing you, the Asian, whoever the other, what's 2032, we have President Dwayne The Rock Johnson here, and I don't know who's interviewing you, the Asian, whoever the other, what's his name, who's interviewing you.

Anyways, yeah, somebody's interviewing you. And it's 2032. So I think 2028, these are my opinions, okay? I could be fully wrong and I'll go take my loss at Vegas. Okay? I think Mark Cuban is flirting, would want to run 2028. I think he wants to be part of the trifecta community and to me the trifecta community is winning in media. Mark has, Shark Tank, you know

however many years. Wealth, sports, billionaire, he's one. He's only missing one thing to be a trifecta and that's the political to win in politics. Like being a triathlete in Hollywood, singing, dancing and acting, right? Like a JT, J-Lo, some of these guys. I put Jamie Dimon on that list because I think he's gradually stepping away from Chase and I think Jamie could be one hell of a president if he chose to run. I got a few other guys I think Vivek would be formidable in 2028 because some of the crowd would go to Vivek from the MAGA side.

And I have you on that list on the prediction side. And I'm asking this from you because would it be a wise choice to take 50 to 1 odds in Las Vegas for 2028. But no, listen, if it got to a point, would you entertain the idea if your fan base, if people came back and said, Rock, you gotta do a lot of private conversation, why don't you do a 2028 is the time? Would you entertain the thought and the idea?

I've been asked and I feel like my honest answer is I have little ones at home, I'm a girl dad, and right now the most important thing and I've said this is and I will say that whether it's a poll that's come out that a lot of people would vote or a conversation like this, it really moves me. I mean, I was a kid who I had seven bucks in my pocket in 1995 to this, the potential of this, or even the idea and the conceit of this. So it's really humbling and I'm a patriot like all of us are in this room. He's shifting, he's like, this guy's not answering my question. Fifty to one. I think that as of now, the most important thing is for me to, you know, you have little

ones too, is to be a daddy to my little girls. Truly. And I'm not, you know, being savvy out of my, out of my. But by the way, I would, I don't know about how many guys say it's probably a 50 to one are good odds to take in Vegas. Who would say, all right, so I mean, that's what I received from this. But this last topic on this before we move on, because I want to tell you about what's the most, the one video of yours I've watched the most,

and I think it's gonna surprise you what video it is. I've watched it so many times, bro, it's not even funny. But let me finish the thought here. Do you sit there and think about, like, for example, if I'm your agent, I'm your manager, I'm not, Brad is, but if I'm your agent, I'm your manager I'm not Brad is but if I'm your agent, I'm your manager and by the way Danny and I had a call I freaking loved Danny. I don't know if you told you about yes, she did. Our call was sick Yes, I told her I said I'll get to that topic here in a minute. I don't want to digress but She's a monster. She's something else. Of course, you know that but to me it was kind of interesting watching her

But if I was your agent from your manager. Do I want you to run for office? Hell no. I lose that 10 percent on 100 million every year or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And now, hey, let's go 2032, maybe 36. But wait till the kids are 18 years old. Right. Like there's a part of it. But if I'm like a guy that's an advisor and I'm sitting there,

you know, on the inside and we're having conversations, we're chopping it up, we don't have that kind of a relationship, we're just starting a relationship the last, you know, three, four months that we've started. I probably would do a couple research data. We just talked about data a few minutes ago. My step number one will be the following, and I think there's a way of doing this.

I would run an analysis to see what percentage of your following lean right, lean center right, lean center, lean libertarian, lean center left, lean left left, like you know, whatever. And I'm not saying far left, I'm saying left, right? Of course, there's the likability factor and the fame factor. Everybody loved Trump before 2015. And then it's like, he's the worst human being

in the history of mankind. And so he goes through that phase. I'd run that report. And I wonder if you think a bigger percentage of your audience is conservative or liberal. I would lean towards a bigger percentage of your audience as probably conservative, WWE conservative. You know, big BMF, bad mother, you know what, you are a BMF, hands down conservative. You go to UFC, UFC is as conservative as it gets, Dana's you know,

at our, you know, every time pumping up Trump, right? You give me the vibes of somebody that wants to be a good father, wants to be a good husband, wants to be a good son, wants to be a good citizen. I think that stuff is very important to you. I feel that. I don't know. I'm just, that's the vibe I get from you right when I watch you. But I wonder if the thought in your mind is, then if I get into this space, the amount of like, you have to take positions.

You didn't take positions, you're like, great, this, this, that, those are nice, like valuable, positive, listening, all that's great. But if you do run, you have to say, if you're pro this or anti this, if you run, you have to be, we're doing this or we're not doing this. If you run, there's a thought of,

dude, I don't wanna effing mess with that at all. That's exactly why I don't ever wanna get into politics. Because it's very different than Rocky sucks, Rocky sucks. Now it's like, no, Rocky is, I used to like him. He's the worst human being in the world. Do you really wanna go through that? Like, does that bother you? Like, I don't being in the world. Do you really want to go through that? Does that bother you? I don't want to touch that.

You ever go there? You think about that all the time. Of course. Because that kind of energy, that's a cesspool. And it's hard for people to navigate through. It's hard for us to watch it on TV. It's hard for people to navigate through. It's hard for us to watch it on TV. It's hard for us to absorb the news. It's hard for anybody to be in that.

Politicians, especially politicians or not. So you think about that, I think about it. But at the end of the day, there's two things that I'll say here. And I wanna double down on it because it is the undeniable truth. Which is I have an 8-year-old and a 6-year-old and school drop-offs and pickups are so important to me and being daddy

is important. And I also have a 22-year-old daughter. And I like to say we grew up together. Because I had her when I was in my late 20s. Where I was on the go. Pro wrestling, wrestling 250 dates a year for years. So I missed out. God.

250 dates a year for years. Different city every night. It was a brutal schedule. This is why we all get divorced in pro wrestling. So I missed out on a lot of her childhood and I know what it's like to have a job that takes you away. I missed out on a lot of her childhood. And I know what it's like to have a job that takes you away. And I do believe that president,

that job will take me away. Now I'm not saying can't be done, of course there are presidents in the past who had little kids, of course. But when they're eight and six, and I'm the male figure that they're going to compare other men to the rest of their life, this critical time, I'm home with them. That's the most important thing.

So that's one thing I wanted to say. Just to underscore that, but the part that you just brought up about that stuff that you think about, of course you think about it because it's hard to Navigate your way through it because it's so venomous and it's so declarative and it's so this is the right way That's the wrong way. You're wrong. We're right. Don't talk to us I'm aware of it like we're all aware, but it doesn't scare me. And I think that's the important thing. Awesome. No, shouldn't. That's very good to know, bro.

No, that doesn't scare me. Respect. Yeah, because I think it's gonna come and it'll be overnight. Yeah. And when it does, I'd like to see you run one day. I'd be curious to know what you're gonna run on. I'd be curious to know what levels you're gonna be run on.

I would encourage you to run that analytics on your audience and kind of feel how they view you. I don't think it's gonna be curious to know what levels are going to be run on. I would encourage you to run that analytics on your audience and kind of feel how they view you. I don't think it's going to be hard to do. Just got to hire a couple of BI, $100,000, $200,000 all year people to do that. You probably already have that on your team. And you can kind of put that on the back of your head that if you ever go, you know, what things will that happen?

Would I appreciate you taking these questions? I know it's not the most comfortable questions to take because you're still in the game. You're still in the arena. You're still kind of you know doing your movies, doing your things and again thanks for taking these questions. Let me transition into another part here. The part that... By the way thank you for thanking me on that and acknowledging that but let's underscore this because this is the stuff that's important. If something's uncomfortable, it doesn't mean we run away from it.

It means we sit here and we talk it through. Yes. Right? My man. Yes. Respect. So let me share with you what video of yours I've watched a lot, bro.

I watch a lot. I'm wondering if you can even guess, like in your mind, like what video is talking about. I have watched your eulogy speech of your father. Bro, over and over and over and over. And you go up and you know, you are really trying to hold it together. And I see the pictures when you are, that one video is the best

video is the one that your dad is out there walking on his chest and shoulders. And then you're on the sideline, young rock, that's the best, that's the best when you're seeing that, right? And then the day comes, and I know how important it is for you to be a father. Were you mentally ready for that day?

Many, many years prior to that where you're like trying to prepare for that day to come where it's your hero. Because your father pushed you away from being a wrestler and the ultimate compliment to your dad is, bro, I want to do what you did. I want to do what you did. I'm going to continue your legacy and tell the world you're my hero.

That's the way I saw that. And I saw that, and I saw that young like, oh brother, I just wanna watch this thing on repeat over and over again. Were you prepared for it? Was it like something you were afraid of? Was it something you mentally and emotionally were getting ready for? Or was it like, I'm never gonna be ready for this day?

No, I wasn't prepared for it because my dad died suddenly, just like that. because my dad died suddenly, just like that. An embolism traveled up and ended his life. So it happened suddenly. I didn't get a chance to say goodbye. And here's the thing. And brother, this is just, it's life. And a month before he died,

we got into the biggest fight we have ever gotten into. And we never had a chance to reconcile that. Oh, it was brutal. It was brutal. And it was during Christmas time too as well. So Christmas was just tainted and I felt like shit. He felt like shit and my mom was involved. Admittedly I was angry and three weeks went by,

we didn't reconcile, he died. And that was it. And so he asked me if I was prepared. No one's ever prepared for that, even if, God forbid, you have a loved one who is transitioning out and you can prepare as best you can for their transition. Or in my case, you know, they say goodbye just like that without saying goodbye. So I never had a chance to say goodbye and never had a chance to write that thing that I wish I did.

And so that was a tough one. And the lesson though I realized is, we hear this all the time. You never know what's around the corner. Hug your loved ones, hug your little ones. I do a lot of work with Make-A-Wish and every time I do it. Yeah, thank you. So important. And when you leave those meetings with Make-A-Wish,

you see these kids who are so strong and you see the parents who are being so strong too as well. You go home, you hug your kids tighter. That's just what you do. And so we hear it all the time, hug your kids, take care of your loved ones, hug your loved ones. You never know what's around the corner. But until you go through something like that,

that's when those words really hit home. And I realized that, man, I thought, I wish I had a shot just to hug my dad one more time or say, or hug and say, and maybe he's listening now, so hug and say, it's all right. It's all right. We're good. You know, I never had a chance to do that. It's all right, we're good, you know. I never had a chance to do that.

How? That's why it was so cool meeting your dad backstage. I love that. Yeah. How big of a role did faith play in you? Like, because that's pretty heavy. That's not easy. That's a very heavy thing that you carry as a man with your

father. How big of a role did faith play for you to be able to continue with your life, to be a good father, to be a good role model? Was there a big role there? Yes, faith before my dad passed away has played a very important part of my life. Faith after my dad passed away

played a very big part in my life because a lot of times you go down the road and there's the phrase, you have to walk by faith and not by sight a lot of times you walk by faith not sight nor experience and you just don't know so you've got to have that faith the faith is the thing for one of the many things that can anchor us and that should anchor us so yeah when and it's funny yeah it's true faith is the anchor man it's funny. Yeah, it's true. Faith is the anchor, man.

It's funny when my dad, because we had a complicated relationship, he, when I was five years old, our bonding was come with me to the gym, sit in a corner, but that was our bonding. And then as I got a little older, eight, nine, 10, he'd let me work out a little bit, he'd take me on the wrestling mats, he'd kick the shit out of me in a good way. And

so we, his capacity to love. My dad was kicked out of the house when he was 13. I'll tell you a quick story about my dad. So my dad's dad died when he was 13. That Christmas, my dad's mom had another boyfriend. The boyfriend got drunk, urinated on the turkey. My dad's 13. Small town up in Nova Scotia. My dad at 13 grabbed a shovel and he drew a line in the sand and said, if you cross that line to the drunk boyfriend who peed on the turkey,

I'm going to kill you. And so the drunk crossed the line. My dad hit him in the head, knocked him out cold, didn't kill him. Cops came. When the cops came at that time, the cops told my grandmother, my dad's mom, when this man becomes conscious again, one of these two are going to kill each other. So one of them should go. You know what's next.

So my grandmother said to my dad You got to go Wow, so he was kicked out at 13. My point is that's his capacity for love right there So that's the man that raised me Respect is given when it's earned. No one's gonna give you shit Go out and earn it work hard get up with me before the sun, come to the gym. So all that stuff I got from my old man. And the reason why I'm telling this story is because even though I didn't reconcile with my dad, I think one of the saving graces when we talk about faith is if you have a complicated relationship with your dad and you grow up, you start to look at the world differently like, I don't, I want to be the opposite of my dad.

I don't want to have that quality. I want to have my own quality. I don't want to do it like that. I want to do it like this. I don't know if I like that. I do it like this. But then when he, when he died and you really start looking at the stuff that was really important and the stuff that really matters, then you

realize, man, I got a lot of great qualities from my old man. Thank you, Dad. And that's the thing that helps me in a way reconcile with my old man in that today I can say, hey, thank you, Pops, for. You know. Powerful. So meaning a lot of the signs are still through you even though at one point my pastor one time told me something I always talk about this. He said, you know, one thing Patrick, you need to know about your relationship with your father.

Every father and son goes through three phases. First, you idolize him. Two, you demonize him. Three, you humanize him. And he says those three faces are evident when you're gonna go through it. The sooner you can go on to humanize, the more you can enjoy life and your relationship with him. Are you there now with your dad?

100%, yeah. My dad's my best friend in the world. Him and I have been there in a big way, but he's everywhere I go, he's with us, he lives with us. But I love the story he shared. By the way, so with that upbringing, with that kind of a father that's just grinding, driving like nothing is ever

enough, boom. Then you come in and you're telling stories about you and Vince. And Vince is also a little bit of a complicated guy. Right? Vince McMahon is not the same. There's a lot of weird, and I'm not even going to the weird side. I'm just talking he's a complicated guy on how he is. What was it behind closed doors with your relationship with

Vince that made it work? Because this guy is a big personality, larger than life. I don't know what he's worth today. I think he's $7, $8 billion. I don't know his net worth because he sold it for $10.6 billion or $11 billion when he sold it. And it's funny, eight billion dollars. I don't know his net worth because he sold it for 10.6 billion or 11 billion dollars when he sold it. Yes. And it's funny Endeavor bought both of them, right?

They bought UFC and they bought, you know, WW, which what a long term, if they do it right, and I know Ari's a brilliant guy, so he'll do it right. But how was your relationship with Vince and what things did you pick up from him, specifically with the relationship behind closed doors? The relationship with Vince and I was a great relationship because it was based on I'm willing to work for every dollar.

I'll tell you a story about Vince too as well that really helped expand the aperture of my brain in terms of business. But our relationship with Vince and I, it was about the work, I'm willing to put in the work, and I have a tremendous, boundless respect for the business of pro wrestling. That is so deeply important to him. That's his life, it's his world, it's his blood. And I grew up in the business of pro wrestling. My grandfather wrestled for Vince's dad in the 70s.

My dad wrestled for Vince in the 80s. So I went into this with a tremendous amount of respect and reverence, willing to put in the work. Let's get to work. And I had shared this with Vince when I became the rock and things started to take off for me. He said, what's next? I said, I feel what's next is to take this brass ring

and take it to places it's never been. He said, where's that? I said, I feel what's next is to take this brass ring and take it to places it's never been. He said, where's that? I said, I don't know, let's figure it out together. So, share this one story with you guys and you'll appreciate this too. I was coming up and my very first contract with the WWE, with Vince that I signed with him was a five-year contract for $150,000 a year.

How old are you at this time? 24. Okay. 150 grand a year. 750 is what you are signing. 750, not only taxes but in that world of pro wrestling, I had to pay for everything. I had to pay for hotel and food and transportation. When you are on the road 250, he's not covering the rooms and

transportation? Not then. Okay. Not the first contract. Different now. So and again, 150 grand per year is great. When you are wrestling 250 dates a year, do the math. Broke.

What you are getting per match. Right. And it was what it was. It was an opportunity for me. Look, I came from seven bucks. So this, great. It was time to renegotiate. And a couple of wrestlers at that time, about three years later,

as I became The Rock, newly minted The Rock, it was time that he wanted to renegotiate my contract about two to three years in. A couple of wrestlers at that time had their own agents. I chose not to have an agent. He said, are you going to have an agent? Are you looking for an agent? I said, I'm not. I'd like to negotiate with you directly. And how we met was with a handshake. And I believe how we're going to do this is with a handshake.

Handshakes are very important to me, as I know everybody in this room. So I always say my handshake is better than anything I ever signed, it's right here. So he said, great, I love that, I respect it. He said, what are you thinking? And I said, who's the highest paid, if you don't mind me asking, between us,

who's the highest paid, if you don't mind me asking, between us who's the highest paid on the roster? He said, Stone Cold Steve Austin. I said, okay. I said, if you don't mind me asking, what's his guarantee? He said, a million dollars. I went, okay. I want two. Ha ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. So, oh I know, the balls of that kid. So, he said, two million? I said yes. Guaranteed? Yes. And he said, I'm just curious, where do you get that from?

Like what are you figuring out in your mind? And I said, well, I love Steve, I respect him, but if he's getting a million dollars, where I see myself going is past a million dollars, I think it should be too. And he went, okay, I understand that logic. He said, here's what I want you to do. I'm gonna put you in contact with one of our executives

and I need you to take a couple of months if it takes that long, because I was on the road. He goes, I need you to understand the business. I need you to understand the business, this side of the business from top to bottom, all the economics. Wow.

I want you to understand that. I want you to understand our cost overhead. I want you to look at what's allocated to the board. I want a great thing to do. Yes. I want you to take the time and put in the work that you say you're committed to in the ring. Yes, I expect that from you.

But now I want you to learn the business. Once you learn this business, then you come back to me and then we'll talk about what the renegotiations. Who was the executive, was that a CFO? It was like a CFO at that time. Okay, I got it, yeah. So you learned the money aspect of the business. Yes. Got it.

Exactly, what the overhead costs are, what the costs are every venue we go into, what the cost of the venue is, what the state tax is, what the allocation for all the wrestlers is gonna be, that percentage of what the gate is that particular night. I didn't take three months. I mean, maybe it was just two weeks and it was baptism by fire. And I learned to absorb as much as I could about the business.

I went back to Vince and I thanked him. I gave him a big hug. I said, I understand now, uh, I'd like to match it at a million dollars. What Steve is getting. Thank you for taking me through it. And we had a great conversation and he said, how much do you think you're going to make this year? I said, well, my guarantee is a million.

I've been going, averaging about 50% over my guarantee, so maybe 1.5. He went, okay. Now that you've taken yourself through that, now you understand the business, you're going to make $15 million a year. Are you kidding me? Yes.

You're not expecting this. No. But he already did the math. He could see where it goes. Wow. He'll make $15 million. Life change. What was your reaction when he says that?

Holy shit. I mean, from $150 a year to $15 million. That's 100X in income. That was crazy. But that was by the time we hit about 1999, 2000, wrestling had a boom period at that time. Yeah. By the way, you know wrestling, I think if I'm not mistaken,

wrestling's YouTube channel for sports and entertainment, I think it gets the most views. Number one. It's number one, right? It gets the most views. I don't know how many subscribers they have. But you'll see videos, 288 million views, 263 million views.

It's not like it's an easy thing to do. That's pretty interesting. I got another question for you. This part of it maybe it's a little bit for us. Some of you guys may not be interested in this, but I'm asking this question. So I'm a fan of bodybuilding. I'm a fan of Mr. Olympia. I'm a fan of all the bodybuilding stuff that's going on. Years ago, I'm interviewing Ronnie. I went through the whole phase of interviewing all the Mr. Olympia. So Ronnie comes, Dorian Yates comes, Phil comes, Dexter Jackson comes. I bring everybody one by one by one we're

interviewing and they're going really good. So I get a call from the CEO of Mr. Olympia. He says I'd like to meet with you at Prime at Diplomat which is like 30 minutes 40 minutes away from hour away from here because we're in Palm Beach. So I meet him over there and I'm like hey hey, so tell me, listen, I'm noticing some of the stuff you're saying you're calling us out when Mr. Olympia on the way we're doing this and you know, I understand that but what can we do to collaborate? I said forget about collaboration. Are you guys for sale?

I'm interested. No, we're not for sale. You're not for sale? No, at all. No. Well, what is the brand? Well, it's Muscle and Fitness and pa-pa-pa-pa-pa. It's really this, you know, the whole breakdown of the business.

And then three months later, they announced Jake Wood bought Mr. Olympia. Okay. And I think this is the time where you were going to Mr. Olympia. You were involved, you were going there. And obviously Danny is somebody that she's the ambassador. Yeah, of course.

How close were you guys of buying Mr. Olympia? We were close. Super close? I guys of buying Mr. Olympia? We were close. Super close? I don't know about super close, but the discussions were there, and Danny, who Patrick is referring to, she's my business partner. I've known her since I was 18 years old,

University of Miami. She wound up becoming my first wife. We have our child together. We got a divorce, still stay together. Even through the divorce, we thought, well, we've been building this Company over here. Should we continue to build it? We don't hate each other. We just wound up getting a divorce. So let's continue to build it

so that's who he's referring to with Danny who wound up becoming a competitor and getting her pro card in in bodybuilding and we grew up just Loving working out and training. And so we were with the Mr. Olympia. We were in discussions at that time. There were a lot of discussions that were happening. And, you know, at that time it was really interesting. And I think for you too, as well, I think we were probably sensing it. There's something interesting there at that time, but it never happened.

It wasn't so. And is there any interest now or not really? Like, no, no interest in Mr. Olympia. I think it's tough to scale. I think it's challenging. But you know what I thought about and I was telling the bodybuilders? I'm like, dude, if Rock buys Mr. Olympia and say Danny would run it and she would crush it, right, if she ran it. And somebody who wins, I'm doing a movie, they get a part, you're able to get that

recognition and the eyeballs, oh my god look how this guy's playing this and that guy's playing this part. I thought it was a very smart move for them to sell it to you guys. I'm surprised they didn't. My opinion, it's their loss but still I'm a fan of the game, I'm a fan of the sport. I just don't think it's what it was 10, 15 years ago, 20 20 years ago I think 90s to me was 90s 2000 Mr. Olympia was a very unique time. Yeah, but that sport They were also coming out of the 80s too as well and out of the 80s Aesthetically the bodybuilders they aesthetically their bodies just look different like the Arnold's of the day and guys of Frank Zane

You know, it really had like some pretty impressive physiques. Who is your favorite? Physique wise. Of all time. Frank Zane is waist 29. I don't know what his waist was. Physique wise I would say Arnold in his heyday. I thought he had a phenomenal physique. One of a kind. You are no little guy either.

I don't know if you have seen Patrick up close. He's a big guy. We are taking a picture and I'm looking at him and I'm like, how tall are you? I'm like, you're 6'5". Tall guy, you're talking to him. So business. We got 10 minutes and about 10 minutes we'll go to questions. So if some of you guys want to line up by the mic, we'll go

there in a minute. But question, you've been in a lot of rooms that you've done negotiations with, right? Oh, look what, fights are going to break out. Guys, just, we're not, we can't do like 50 of them, but it's just going to be a couple we'll go to. But you've been in a lot of rooms that you've negotiated with, right? Negotiation rooms.

You know, even the story you just told right now, Vince, of what happened from, hey, 155 years, 750 to, hey, I want to take 2 million. How is your, you know, well,000, to hey, I wanna take $2 million, how is your, well I wanna make two times what Stone makes, I'm about to say, now you know what, I'm actually willing to do a million, and I'm like, $1.5 million, oh, you know what you're gonna make this year,

what, actually $15 million, holy shit, life changing, right? What have you learned from being in negotiating rooms, movies, contracts, terms, short term, mid term, long term. Do you have two or three things from maybe mistakes being made, we should have done this differently, that you could say, these are three things we follow when it comes down to negotiation? Sure, I think when it comes to negotiations,

I like to try to remember that we want the same thing. Let's get to a good place. Again, it goes back to what you and I talked about earlier about Let's have the conversation. Let's have the dialogue Sometimes it gets tricky in Hollywood because there's a lot of managers and there's agents and there's people involved There's business affairs. You have a lot of people doing the talking for me

when and They're all qualified but too many conversations and too many people in the room can start to stunt the progress of where you need to go so it's much easier for me now out of the gates let me call either business affairs let me call the head of the studio here's what I'm thinking let's make this let's cut away the fat at first in terms of negotiation here's what I'd'd like to get. What do you think? Does this work? Here's where we're gonna bring it in. We'll be fiscally responsible. We're these kinds

of partners, etc. What I realized in the past is, what I realized in the past that's informed me today, is at the end of the day, no one can talk on your behalf better than you. And how important that is. So are you really negotiating? Are there many cases where you're doing the deals like... I don't have to get into the nuts and bolts of that part. I say, here's my goal.

I think this feels right. And everyone else can then talk. But let me say something. So for example, if we were making a deal together, Value Entertainment, say $7. I come to you directly and say, what do you think about this? What do you think? You and I will go back and forth. And then we would call our guys to come in and handle the details.

I want to give a compliment to, he's the only person that's done this. And by the way, we've booked a lot of people over the years. You name them, Kevin Hart, you know, Kobe Bryant, Tom, names, names that are like, you know, in their space, they're big. When Brad and I were talking, one day Dana White calls me, says, hey, Pat, I'm in Abu Dhabi, it's 3.30 in the morning, you got a minute, call me. Great. What's happened to Dana? Hey, do you know this guy named Brad Slater? Oh, yeah, of course. I know Brad Slater. He's yeah, of course. I'm lucky

I know who he is. He's a fan. He wants to talk to are you okay? If I put you guys in a group text great guy Let me tell you a story about Brad one time I went in there We started off rough, but we have a very good relationship now. So okay, great. No problem So I talked to Brad. Hey would love to meet with you. I go in LA We have that three-hour lunch together at one of the hotels. I got a story about Dana too. I want to Brad, hey, would love to meet with you. I go in LA, we have that three hour lunch together at one of the hotels. I got a story about Dana too, I wanna tell you.

That'd be great, I'd love to hear it. So then Brad and I walk away. So what if we do this, what if we do that, what if we do this? Nothing's going on. It's like, well, you represent The Rock, yeah I do. He represents a lot of different ways he represents The Rock. Said, Brad, what about the Rock coming to the conference.

He says, let me talk to him. And I am like, all right, cool. Next thing you know on a Sunday, you reach out to me. Hey, what do you think about this and what do you think about that and what do you think about this. I am like, I am telling you, no one does that ever. In that moment I'm like, this guy is a freaking involved guy in the deals, in the trenches and you rarely see that.

And then even throughout the process, even throughout the process of doing, hey, interview, we're going to go to this angle, hey, Rock, I want to talk about this, what about this and what about that. We're going go to this angle. Hey rock. I want to talk about this. Well, what about this and what about that? We're going back and forth Normally this guy's one-of-one. It's like hey handlers you guys handle this we're not gonna Know it's just right here. Yeah, but the way you approached that was a lot of respect to you Because I would have expected our team to just communicate all of it But we went through it and it ended up being an unbelievable experience.

Yes, and it has to be like this. This is the way it should be. Like I was just saying earlier, like you, yeah, no one can speak on your behalf better than you. Period. And so I feel like... Because when it starts to go through other people, it starts to get filtered through their lens, and perhaps what their agenda could be. And so and I'm not knocking it's not an indictment on anybody else who is on my team but everyone

serves a purpose and they're all really really good at what they do a lot better than I could be at their job. But this kind of conversation is this is where the magic happens when it's like this. That's very impressive because you know what it makes me think about? Here's what it makes me think about. I know you don't want to go there. I'm just making a statement. It tells me later on if let's just say you do run and shit hits

the fan, I think you're the guy that's going to call the president and say, hey, listen, all the shit everybody is talking about, what are we going to do? I foresee you being the kind of guy that's going to call the guy directly, not hide behind closed doors and have wired phone ear or whatever to claim like they're busy, but they don't want to answer the conference. Anyways, I forget about what I just said there, but you guys

understand what I'm saying. I think you'll make the phone call. I think you'll make the phone call. I think you'll make that direct phone call. You had a Dana story. You always like a Dana story. I'm very you know be in this position that I'm in terms of social media So about ten years ago as social media a little bit before that was hitting it was a

It was a section And a vertical of our world that I that I didn't And I didn't get it, it wasn't clicking with me. I thought, well, who cares what I'm having for lunch or what kind of ketchup I'm gonna put on. That's the way I saw it back then. And I thought, I just don't see the value of this. And I had a conversation with my team, you should join social media.

And I went, just not too sure if we should do that. I don't know if it's for me. I go see Dana. I've been great friends with Dana for 15, 20 years now. And I go see him and we're in the back and at this time he was just, he was on Twitter, King at that time, you know, very engaged. And he goes, he goes, dude, are you on social media?

I went, no. He's like, you have to get on. And they're calling him out to the event, by the way. He's got to get out there because the show is live, the pay-per-view. And he goes, tell him I'll be out there in a second. Hold on. This is very important.

You have to. You know how the terminy gets when you talk to him about something. Of course. You have to. And I was like, brother, I don't know if it's for me, man. I just, I said, you do it well on Twitter. And at that time, Instagram, I don't even know,'s for me man. I just I said you do it well on Twitter and at that time Instagram

I don't even know was Was up and running yet and he goes I'm telling you you have to but here's why he said you will engage in ways that Fans in ways that nobody's doing and in your what's important to you is to connect with people I said it is it's the most important thing This will allow you to connect with people because you will control everything that you do Years later I wind up fortunately becoming the most followed American man in the world all thanks to Dana White. Oh wow shout out to There you go. Yeah Fantastic give it up Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I got a gift for you. I got to give you this gift man

I got two gifts for you Appreciate you. man hold on it's all good it's all good this was great let me give you these two gifts hang on thank you guys so much do you have both where's the other one okay so I got two things you're a movie guy anything I give you can go buy it or you probably have it anyways. But you may not have these two. So this is a signed script of Godfather Francis Coppolo. Wow. I know you're a Godfather guy. And I think you're an Elvis guy, if I'm not mistaken.

You're an Elvis guy. So am I. Big fan of Elvis. This is Elvis. He wrote this Christmas card in 1959 when he was in the army. This is signed by Elvis. I wanted to give this gift to you as well as somebody that's an Elvis fan. I think I hope you appreciate this gift. Wow, thank you so much. From us to you brother for coming out.

Yes. Wow. And we'll ship this to you. This is amazing. Yes. Right here it's signed by him. Wow. So first of all, thank you so much for this, brother. Anytime, brother.

I really appreciate it, thank you for this. I'm a big fan of the Godfather. I always say the Godfather, so many life lessons in the movie The Godfather, but also I love Elvis and I was at Graceland two years ago and in the Elvis museum is one of the Elvis costumes that I wore for an event that was called Rock the Troops and it was the largest gathering of military personnel on US soil for our troops

and families. Dude, it was awesome. And it was Elvis themed, so thank you so much. We're going to ship this to you. Thank you. Appreciate you, Sam. If you want to grab this, I don't want to drop it. We got pictures.

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