PBD Podcast - Reaction To Adidas Dropping Kanye West w/ @Chet Hanx | PBD Podcast | Ep. 197
Episode Date: October 26, 2022In this episode, Patrick Bet-David is joined by Chet Hanks, Vincent Oshana & Adam Sosnick. PBD Podcast Episode 196. Chester Marlon Hanks (born August 4, 1990) is an American actor and musici...an. The son of actors Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, he has had recurring roles on Empire and Shameless. TOPICS 0:00 - Start 2:24 - @Chet Hanx on Americas current situation 12:36 - @Chet Hanx on politics 24:06 - @Chet Hanx on his family 31:29 - @Chet Hanx on living in his fathers shadow 49:17 - Reaction to the James Corden scandal 58:51 - @Chet Hanx on why he's never voted 1:03:12 - Reaction to 'Neo-Nazi's' supporting Kanye West 1:18:25 - Reaction to Adidas dropping Kanye West 1:29:09 - @Chet Hanx on Andrew Tate 1:37:04 - Patrick Bet-David on Robert Reich attacking capitalism . . FaceTime or Ask Patrick any questions on https://minnect.com/ Sign up for the Hanxfit Club: https://bit.ly/HanxFit Follow Chet Hanx on Instagram: https://bit.ly/ChetHanxInstagram Want to get clear on your next 5 business moves? https://valuetainment.com/academy/ PBD Podcast Episode 196. Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. 0:00 - Start 2:24 - @Chet Hanx on Americas current situation 12:36 - @Chet Hanx on politics 24:06 - @Chet Hanx on his family 31:29 - @Chet Hanx on living in his fathers shadow 49:17 - Reaction to the James Corden scandal 58:51 - @Chet Hanx on why he's never voted 1:03:12 - Reaction to 'Neo-Nazi's' supporting Kanye West 1:18:25 - Reaction to Adidas dropping Kanye West 1:29:09 - @Chet Hanx on Andrew Tate 1:37:04 - Patrick Bet-David on Robert Reich attacking capitalism --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support
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Episode 291 today with a special guest.
For some that don't know, he's a viral internet sensation actor and
empire and shameless. He's got a hit white boy summer and then he went viral
for talking.
Pathwa.
Pathwa, right?
And then famous for his anti vaccine rantine rant, famous for anti-Trump Rans. And his father is a winner
I believe of Black Jeopardy, right Doug? From SNL, who happens to be also Tom Hanks,
Chet. Thank you so much for being a guest on the podcast, man. Thank you for having me. You got a
lot of stuff you done, man. You're all over the place with your opinions, your thoughts, your creativity. Yeah, I've been pretty outspoken.
How do you feel about that?
Well, some of the things I've been outspoken about, I have a different opinion on now.
Things are always changing.
Sometimes you speak on something at one point and it's 2020 hindsight.
So you can't know at the time how things are going to pan out. So, you know, sometimes your opinion's changed, but one thing that hasn't changed
is I've always been pretty open about my opinions on things. If I feel like I have something
to say, then I don't really have a problem using my voice.
That's, that's great, but I'd be curious to know what opinions I've changed, by the way,
because with you, I got a lot of topics I want to get into. You know, I got, you know, your own self on how to create your own identity,
being in the family household that you were raised in.
I'm sure that's like the main topic people want to talk to you about.
Your, your families, you know, somehow, some way always tied to, not always,
recently, maybe in the last two and a half years, tied to conspiracy theories.
And then at the same time, you seem very loose.
You seem very comfortable in your own skin.
When you go out, you're doing what you're doing.
So you were saying, some things have changed.
I gave the intro and right off the bat, the first thing you said
is some opinions have changed.
What has changed?
Oh, that's a good question.
Let's get right into it.
Specifically, like when you mentioned that I was against Trump, right?
Well, what you're talking about is a video I posted also
when a Jamaican accent when Trump lost the election.
And I said, boss man, Biden, beat Trump and whatnot.
I still, the reasons I was against Trump at that time have not changed.
Specifically, the racist stuff.
It's debatable.
People got their own opinions on whether he's actually racist, but I'm talking about the
comments of like, there was good people on both sides when talking about the neo-Nazis.
That's the stuff that made me be against Trump at the time.
But at that time, when Biden won the election,
I was big enough Biden and my feelings of Biden
have changed.
So you don't have the same,
this is the most popular president we've ever had,
81 million votes.
Your opinions on him has changed?
On Biden?
Yeah.
Yeah.
In what way?
I mean, well, does it look like this country is going well?
You know, there's a...
The economy is, you know, absolute shit.
In LA, there's homeless people everywhere.
Yeah.
I mean, they're just doing drugs out on the streets.
We gave all that money to Ukraine for what?
We are economy, don't we have enough problems to take care of within our own country,
rather than go spending all our tax dollars giving it to some other country while we have
homelessness everywhere.
It's rampant and we're giving out crack pipes to people.
Isn't that an LA problem?
Is that something that your boy Newsom has to kind of clean up or Garcetti?
This is also New York, though.
That's also Illinois, though.
That's also Portland. For's also Illinois, though. That's also, you know, Portland,
you sure what happened.
For sure, Portland, Seattle, of course.
You see what Portland came out and said yesterday,
did you hear about that?
Tyler, did you hear what the Portland guy said yesterday?
We got to figure this out.
This homelessness problem is bad, you know,
the too many drugs out there.
What are you talking about?
These are the byproducts of your policy.
Well, I mean, it boggles my mind up.
Gavin Newsom is even in office.
I mean, it's almost as if you had a governor there who was his job was to just have everything
go to shit as much as possible.
It's almost like that's his objective.
Like, how can I fuck up this state as much as possible?
That's what it looks like.
He crushed it in the recall.
What was that in 2020, 2021?
And it wasn't even close.
Genslary Elder.
This would make any sense to me.
That also goes for the mayor of LA.
I mean, I mean, it's all absolute shit.
You know, I've grown up,
I've been born and raised in LA my entire life.
I've never seen anything like this.
When did it start really getting bad?
Because it didn't start.
During COVID.
It got exponentially worse during COVID.
As I'm sure it was liking a lot of cities all across America. Also, the stuff in the
vaccine, I just don't agree with, I think it's morally wrong.
I don't feel like people should be forced to take anything. I
think it's absolutely insane. Why do you, we use a question
that said, you come across as a, you have a very different experience in life
than the average person, you've seen a lot, okay,
in your life, and at a very young age.
So, to you, a nice car to an average guy,
oh my God, that's a Lamborghini,
you're like, I've seen the cars,
you've seen the incorrect, that's incorrect.
You still value that, you'll still see cars.
No, this is like the number one misconception
about me and my upbringing. I was just, you know, given Lamborghini's, or like, that's not what I'm saying, that's right.
No, but still, like a Lamborghini, like,
this is what people don't understand,
is that, like, for the majority of my life,
I've been absolutely broke.
Like, I mean, like, live in paycheck to paycheck,
like, throughout my early 20s,
I mean, throughout, like, you know, up until my late 20s,
when I started, when my acting career started taking off
and I was making a lot of money, I was like, I'm not paycheck like throughout my early 20s I mean throw like you know up until my late 20s
When I started when my acting career started taking off and I was making enough money to support myself
So I didn't have to work a nine to five. Yeah, I mean if I had like you know
$700 in my bank account, then that was like a lot of money
You know, I'm saying like for the majority of my life up until my mid 20s and still and until I started getting you know
Consistent recurring roles or series
regulars on TV shows.
But I guess the point I'm trying to make and I appreciate you saying that.
I think one part you said, I would tell my dad that I need some money.
It's a go wash my car here at $60, right?
So you always had to earn based on what you've seen the way you were raised.
I actually think you were raised the right way by, hey, we have the money, but this doesn't mean,
but what I'm saying is you've been on the jets,
you've been around the celebrity,
you've been on the Hollywood people,
you've seen all these guys,
they're regular people that come to your house.
I'm assuming that's the life you were around.
So, but you're also in a space where,
if I'm, if let you say I'm your, you know,
my father's a general of the army.
Who am I gonna be around?
Military guys, vets, kernels, officers, you know,
that's my world.
So I understand military, that's the world I come from.
So my language is yes sir, this, and maybe I hate it.
Maybe it's too much like stop cleaning my bed
in the morning.
I don't wanna clean my bed.
There's gonna be some kind of resentment
towards a military background.
Are you here or something?
Or if my father was a pastor of a big church and I got caught smoking weed and the next
Sunday morning, the past like, I remember being at church when my pastor's son got caught
doing something and he had to talk about it on stage, 20,000 members, not comfortable.
So the pressure of being the son of a preacher's boy, we've read about it,
we've, you know, you've seen it all over the place. There's certain pressures that comes with it,
but you know, the Bible studies, you know, all that's because that's your world. Same with athletes,
you know, Michael Jordan's son, you know, he's got the shadow of his father and, you know, he's
trying to, you know, there's no way in the world you're gonna match that shadow. For you,
you're in a family where the last name is
Hanks. It's Tom Hanks. And your mom's also an actress. And they both
made it to the top. But your dad's in the gold status. He's one of the greatest
of all time to do what he's done. I knew you talked about what he's
until today gets him emotional, gets him emotional when you talk about some of
the movies. You know, but for you to say what you just said about Biden,
what you just said about California, what you just said about California,
about Newson comfortably the way that you did,
and then in that world, most of them support
what Newson does, most of them supported,
the shutdown, most of them supported the vaccine,
most of them supported, is that a battle you deal with?
Or no, you're pretty comfortable
with your position and hey, this is who I am.
I'd rather be hated for who I am than love for whom not.
Have you always been like that?
Not always, but as I get older, I just feel that that's important. I mean, I can't be anybody other than who I am.
I could, you could be who you are,
of just, you could omit, you know what I'm saying?
I could be who I am and just not say that,
but we're having a discussion.
I could just omit that, but then isn't it
kind of a liable omission if I choose not to say something
that I really believe. I mean, we're on a podcast. I'm with you. You know, I already know
what coming into this. This is going to be an extremely intelligent discussion. This
is the type of platform for extremely intelligent discussions. I haven't mentioned this, but
I mean, it's such a privilege to be here because I'm a huge fan of the podcast. I watched
all the mafia states of America. Like, I love this shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So this is a trip and it's dope to be here
having a conversation with you.
I'm a tremendous respect for you and both you guys.
So it's really a privilege to be here.
So if this is the platform to have a intelligent discussion
like that, then why wouldn't I?
Is it tough to do that?
Is it tough to, I guess, let me ask the question
in a different way.
So for example, a Steinburner son.
Everybody knows the Steinburner last name.
You think about what?
The Yankees.
Imagine if his son is like, yeah, I think baseball,
I think I'm not a Yankees fan.
And I'm a Red Sox fan, hypothetically.
I mean, that's your position. That's a very dramatic position
Well, it's interesting right because
Technically, I mean politics whether you are on the left or the right shouldn't have anything to do
with your skill set as an actor or an entertainer. I agree
So but but but somehow it's been skewed that way somehow it it has been skewed that way, where if you're an entertainment or a Hollywood,
then you're only allowed to promote one side.
And if you don't, if you promote the other side at all, you're like, persona non-grata.
But at this point, I mean, I've already been so fucking outspoken about anything my whole
life.
It's like, fuck it.
You know what I'm saying?
People who are gonna work with me are gonna want to work with me because I'm a talented actor
or because we have a relationship and if they don't then fuck it. You know what I'm saying? I'm
no longer dependent on having to put all my eggs in one basket, whether it's acting, music,
or anything else I got going on because I have
something else got. Now I have my my self-matchery program, my coaching program
and that's extremely fulfilling because I get to work one-on-one with people and
help change their lives. You know because people have seen my story and how I've
changed my life even though I'm still outspoken, I'm sober. I got in the best
shape of my life and I'm I'm still outspoken, I'm sober. I got in the best shape of my life,
and I'm actively pursuing something that's benefiting people directly, where I get to work with people
one on one and witness their growth and do what I can to aid their growth right in front of my
eyes. Because I'm not saying I have all the answers, but I can say is that most of the time when
people reach out to me, I know exactly what they're going through because I've been there.
Chad, hold you now?
I'm 32.
All right.
Respect, by the way, for speaking your mind,
whether you're left, right, up, down, middle, cool.
Do you? I don't think anybody should be black, bald, or canceled,
because they have beliefs, political beliefs, social beliefs, all good.
All good.
All good.
Zero, zero issues.
You said you typically were more liberal leaning now.
A little bit more conservative. My entire family. I mean, I was raised in a democratic family.
Sure. That's just some people. Some people are raised in conservative families that grow
up Republican. Some people are raised as Democrats. When you're a little kid, you're going up in
your family. I went to a school that was very conservative.
So I was like a minority for having a family
that was Democrats, right?
So like when you're a little kid,
when you're in the fifth grade, you know what I'm saying?
When like, you know, Bush was getting elected
or something, and you know, you're a little school
has like the elections, right?
Well, who are the little, who's a fifth grader voting for?
They're just voting for the president
that their parents are voting for, right?
So they don't have any opinion on politics. They're just raised a certain, a certain way, right? So I was definitely raised in that, you know, on the left, in the liberal democratic,
you know, just mindset, culture, whatever. But I truly consider myself a complete moderate, complete moderate.
I mean, I truly believe that honestly,
a two-party system is ridiculous,
because what we're having to accept now is,
you either have to, it's a bipartisan extremes.
You have to accept the extremes of each of each party, even though
like the most rational, you know, decision or point of view is always going to be more
in the middle. Do you know what I'm saying? So it's like, if you have to, you're forced
to like pick a side and then co-sign even the most extreme ideologies of that side, just
because it's just because you're picking the lesser of two
evils for sure but but I honestly think that nowadays I mean the the Republican party is a lot
more moderate than the Democratic party. Yeah well there both sides are extreme whether you're
talking about the woke laughter the absolute complete right right. Conspiracy theorist Maga right
right but that's moderate. I think moderate is great.
I'm definitely in that camp.
Unfortunately, if you're a politician,
moderates don't get eyeballs.
We're in an eyeball culture.
Yeah, but I feel like most people are truly moderate.
You know, like most people you come across
are moderate.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's like, I'll speak for myself, for example.
Okay, like I believe in the second amendment.
Okay, so that's like a right ideology.
I also believe that women should be able to get abortions.
Okay, that's a left ideology.
Okay, two completely rational things
that should be logical, but people are forced
to either go out, pick one side, and then accept all the
stuff that comes with it. So if I want to keep my guns, now I got to be, now I got to be
re-rallying against abortions. You know what I'm saying? Because life isn't black and white.
It's not. Life isn't, there's a gray area. There's a nuance. You could be liberal in some
stuff. You could be conservative in other stuff. Exactly. So I think that's the problem
in America today is that you're on team blue or you're on team red. Yeah, what happened to red white and blue baby? Yeah, exactly. That's a problem in the culture. Let me ask you one more follow up question.
Since your seems to be a moderate person who is more left now, you're more right. There must be things that upset you or trigger you, especially on the conspiracy side of things things like things aren't conspiracies until they're actually proven true as an example like freedom of speech
They're limiting our freedom of speech. It's like well, they kind of are big tech, right? Of course, COVID Vax
Well, yeah, you can't trust it. It's like well turns out you're probably kind of good, right?
But then you get into crazy conspiracy things like you and on a dream of Chrome
You know liberal elites, you know blood babies
That's where you lose people and you're like that just doesn't make any sense and then you hear stories of like on a dream of chrome, you know, liberal elites, you know, blood babies.
That's where you lose people and you're like, that just doesn't make any sense.
And then you hear stories of like, your father, America's dad almost, you know, drinking a
dream of chrome.
You've heard these stories.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
How do you process that?
I mean, it's fanciful.
How do I process it?
I think that I think that people are crazy, freaking people are crazy freaking sci-fi fantasies
are a lot more interesting as an explanation
for why things are the way they are than real life
or the real answer.
It's a lot more interesting.
People are bored.
People are bored in their lives.
It's interesting to get lost in these crazy theories
and conspiracies instead of of like looking at like, you know, that this more simple,
probably more, more truthful answer of why things are the way that they are.
Right.
But I don't think that the, I don't think that the left is doing themselves
any favors.
I mean, they're kind of the reason in promoting all these theories because I mean,
just look at Instagram.
Okay.
If you put a post on Instagram, saying anything against the vaccine, it gets flagged.
You might get shadow banned, it might get removed.
Why is that?
Why is that?
What interest does meta have in promoting the vaccine?
Why? Why should they have an interest in that?
They see themselves, what they claim is they see themselves as they have the responsibility
to fact check because they have so much influence nowadays. So they don't want people to be influenced
to think otherwise. Yeah, but why are they worried about people thinking otherwise?
They view themselves as arbiters of truth.
Yeah, but this isn't so fucking insane.
I mean, just think about how insane this is.
That now the government is so involved in our lives
that they think that, and people agree
that they have the right to tell us what to inject
into our fucking blood.
What is that?
A couple years ago, before COVID happened,
you would have said, that's fucking insane.
But because of the chaos and the fucking ridiculous shit
that just of the, you know, people just going nuts,
the economy, tanking, homelessness everywhere.
You know, people have somehow,
through all this chaos, gotten to the point
where they go, oh yeah, I mean, this is normal.
This is normal for the government to come tell us
where we can and can't go based upon a fucking injection.
This is, it's not normal.
It's shit is fucking insane.
Well, Chad, how did you develop such strong opinions
on this?
Because if we all remember March of 2020, the first big name
that got COVID was your father, Tom Hanks.
And nobody knew what the fuck was going on with COVID
at the time if you recall.
And I'm thinking, I'm saying as a human, as a fan,
as a person, I'm thinking, holy shit, Tom Hanks, he's got it.
Like, what is this AIDS? Is this Ebola? Like, what's going holy shit, Tom Hanks, he's got it. Like what is this AIDS?
Is this Ebola?
Like what's gonna happen to Tom Hanks?
And like a couple of months later,
he's like hosting SNL fucking doing his David S.
Pumpkin, like doing his, like, you go boy, you're back.
But at the time, it was really freaking scary.
So that must have done something to you
and triggered something to be like, it ain't that bad.
Like how did you come to this conclusion where you're at with COVID and vaccine and all that?
Well, I mean, when, sorry, so like, what's the specifically?
What's the question? No, so like your dad was the first person that, quote,
unquote, yeah, I remember.
Famous person. Yeah.
So you probably didn't know much about COVID at that time.
Vaccines at that time.
No, we didn't have these strong opinions on vaccines at the time. Well, that was the worst. That was the strong opinion on vaccines at the time.
Well, this is when it started to take a turn from you.
That's what I'm asking.
When they came out with the vaccine, I thought, oh, okay, cool.
If people want to get a vaccine, they'll be able to get a vaccine.
But then once it started to become about, no, no, no, no.
You can't work at your job if you don't get a vaccine.
You can't, you get kicked out of the military if you don't get a vaccine. You can't, you get kicked out of the military
if you don't get your vaccine.
If you're a teacher, you can't go teach
unless you get your vaccine.
You can't go to a restaurant
unless you get your vaccine.
This is going on in LA?
Yeah, this is not here in Florida.
In LA.
Yeah.
I said, this is fucking insane.
What gives them the right to do that?
To force you where you can and can't go in public spaces
based on whether you get an injection or not?
That's when I spoke out about it first.
But see, at the time, you know, most people are just living in fear.
So if there's so much fear in chaos going on,
if the fucking TV screen tells them,
this is a solution, don't be afraid,
get the vaccine, most people are so fucking dumb,
they'll just go do that.
And if they want to, that's their fucking,
I'm not mad at them.
If you wanna go get it, go get it.
But don't fucking kick me out of society if I don't want to.
Did you feel that? Like, did you not, were you not able to act, were you not able to get jobs?
Like, what were, what were the situations that you felt the ramifications for not being
pro-vax, we've been getting a Vax? I mean, I got it. I got the vaccine. I got it on paper. I got it. I got the vaccine. You got it.
You got the code. So there's no ramifications. Yeah. Gotcha. What's wrong with your eye?
You remember when when Tom Cruise was doing what went that one movie on the set where he
lost it were following all the guidelines and we're doing. Do you remember that whole thing?
Oh, yeah, yeah. He freaked out on Ken. He blew up and it was a while. Is he doing it to show responsibility?
Is it really Tom blowing up?
Is it really this?
Because he didn't want to get the lawsuit
because it was a big mess back then.
And there were not letting Hollywood work.
And we had no movies.
And movies were being released on Netflix.
So not Netflix.
Yeah, just Netflix or Apple TV.
But people in that space, it's a very interesting.
Because a part of that space is
being creative, right? And what is the core foundation of being creative? It's being free.
It's a life free. So to me, create creativity is stemmed from, hey, remember when you were a kid
and you're painting and you said, don't
the box like your don't color inside the line.
Color inside the lines or do this in the creativity is what?
I want to do it this way.
I mean, you go to a place and you see a piece of art selling for 10 million bucks or a million
bucks, you're like, I'd never buy something like this, right?
But part of being creative is to let loose, to be free, to, you know, here's what I want
to do. And at the same time, the industry that's supposed to be the most creative,
became so much about guidelines and pool.
And like almost like a religious to follow, which is it's,
it's a, if there's any, like I would have seen military doing that because
military is what?
Don't ask, just do it, yes sir, take the order.
You can't question anything, you gotta kinda do that.
Okay fine, I can see military.
Buddy who was here last week, that was former.
Stu Chalator, I mean listen guys,
I took probably 11 vaccines, day one when I joined the army.
You didn't have a choice, it was an arrogant boom, boom, boom.
There was six people on each side and you'd get an arrogant shot. And by the time you're done, you didn't have a choice. It was an arrogant boom, boom, boom. There was six people on each side
and you'd get an arrogant shot.
And then by the time you don't know what,
because you signed it up
because that's kind of what you do when you go to.
You're getting shot up with all the types of stuff.
And you have no idea what it is half the time.
You're just signing it off when you're 18 years old,
19 years old, but it's kind of weird
to see the most creative industry.
It's really weird.
Be this regulated.
Yeah, it's bizarre.
It's bizarre.
So, okay, for when I talk to uh uh uh rfk robbery kennedy I'm so curious about the kennedy family because kennedy
found there's certain last names whether the kids like it or not you're part of that brand okay
if your last name's kennedy and politics you're part of that brand if your last name's Trump I'm sorry
you're part of Obama Clinton Chelsea's got no name's Trump, I'm sorry, you're part of Obama, Clinton, Chelsea's got no choice.
Chelsea can't go, say, you know what?
I just want to go out there and do expires.
You can't.
You are a Clinton, right?
In sports, you got Brady, those kids for the rest of their lives, they're a Brady.
Jordan, you're a Jordan.
Gretzki, how many Gretzki's are out there?
You're locked into those names, right?
The only other hanks I know is Mertonhanks.
I don't know if you remember Mertonhanks or not.
49ers.
49ers.
Mertonhanks.
A long neck.
Outside of that, there's only one hanks I know.
So in the Hanks family, okay.
Your dad's been pretty, you know,
but we've all seen the goal cast video
where they tell the story about your dad.
And you know, I regret doing this, I regret.
He seems very sincere when he's talking about certain areas
of his life when he's blown up in Hollywood.
Was the family, the kind of a family
where at night time you guys had real conversations
because what Kennedy told me is in their family every night
his dad would ask, so what do you think about drugs?
What's wrong with cocaine being legal?
What's wrong with prostitution?
What's wrong with this?
And then kids would battle it out and they would debate
because that's what the identity, family dinners were all
about debate.
That's what it was.
And I love that.
I love that.
Almost every family I saw that's been successful,
they were in the community of the debate.
Did he say what age that started at?
No, since you were kids.
Wow.
Since you were kids, they were debate.
Was the Hank's family a family where you talk
about serious issues or was it more about,
tell us how school was today.
Tell us how this was today and they kind of hid you because they're so concerned because
you know, Tom Hanks is here and we want our sons to have a regular life.
What was that like?
We definitely, we had, we had, we sat at the dinner table every night, you know, no phones
just being present with each other and we talked.
We talked, that was like mandatory.
My parent, you know, I mean, there's no phones,
you know what I'm saying?
Just connecting with each other, you know,
we definitely did that.
Was it connecting, was it a debate environment or no?
We did a thing, we did high point low point,
so we did like the high point of our day
and the low point of our day.
Got it, I like that.
So what was a high point of our day and the low point of our day Got it. I like that. So what was the high point of your day low point of day?
was there ever a
Because you know for your day you said you went to a conservative school in in LA, right?
Is that the majority of the the the people the families there were from conservative?
Okay, was it a concert was it like a Catholic private school? It was a Piscopalian private school. Yes, okay
so you know, but it doesn't seem like,
but your parents were they also religious
or not necessarily, were they church going or no?
My mom, okay.
My mom, I was baptized Greek Orthodox.
My mom was Greek and Bulgarian.
Her parents were from my grandfather, my papu,
was from Bulgaria, my yaya,
my grandmother was from Greece.
And we were Greek Orthodox, Christian.
Not extremely religious, but it's more about family
and tradition, it's not like a fire
and brimstone kind of religion.
It's very laid back.
You know why I asked that?
It's more about family and tradition.
That's what I'm saying. But I have because your mom and dad,
also their backgrounds, their faith, their, there's differences.
So it's a normal thing to have differences.
Would you say that's what it was? Or here's what we are.
This is what we believe in. Here's what the Hank's family does.
In our family, it was, it doesn't sound like it was that.
Not at all. Not at all.
Yeah, I think that's probably why I'm so, does in our family, it doesn't sound like it was that. Not at all. Not at all.
I think that's probably why I'm comfortable being outspoken because I don't feel like I
have any mold that I have to fit into.
I don't feel like what you mentioned about the trumps and the Clintons and all that.
I never felt any sort of pressure whatsoever to fall in line with any kind of mold.
And I'm thankful for that.
You know, my pops used to tell me like,
hey, if you grow up in what you find
you're passionate about is being a fucking garbage man,
then I support you being a garbage respect.
And I'm saying so, like, my family's like really laid back
like that and I appreciate them.
And I love them a lot for that.
Well, that's for many reasons.
I think that's very,
they're very normal people.
And they raised me to be extremely,
you know, they raised me to be humble, okay.
They themselves are very humble, hardworking people.
They know the value of hard work.
They work their asses off to get to where they are.
They didn't have anything, they grew up, you know dirt poor
So they were always very conscious in raising me very conscious of the fact that I was not raised like any of the other
You know kids and my peers growing up. I was I was not raised like anyone. Can you tell us what the
The other way of being raised would be in Hollywood where your parents are super super famous?
Right. What was that like?
Well, let me put it like this, right?
out of all the
out of all the you know out of all my peers I ever had growing up from you know the time I was in kindergarten to all the way through high school
I was probably the least spoiled kid that I ever met.
Like there were kids that had been the son of like a successful dentist,
or an orthodontist that I went to school with, and they were spoiled rotten.
My parents could have spoiled me more than anybody, And I was the least spoiled.
Okay, because they raised me consciously knowing that if we give this kid everything, he's
going to grow up to be, you know, a loser.
Just a piece of shit or just have no work ethic because he's already been giving everything.
He's already been given everything.
It's about worth it.
Work ethic.
They knew if they raised me that way, then I would grow up with absolutely zero work ethic.
And they were right because the kids that I grew up with, that were raised like that,
they're not doing shit.
You know what I'm saying?
They were correct.
You know?
Were they, did they talk to you about, because I like what you said, when you said the
first time you met President Bush, you went to the White House and he asked you the question that everybody asked you were 14 years old
I want to say I think I think you said you were 14 and he asked you so what is it like you know being the kid of Tom Hanks
And you said the first time how to actually think about it and then you gave the answer and then he said yeah
Me too because my dad was also you know George was senior right because his father was also a president
Like imagine being the shadow of a guy that's a president, everyone's thinking if you're
going to be a president one day, that's very much of a pressure to have which he went through
his phase of party. And we had him at an event one time. I interviewed him. He opened up.
He asked to turn off the cameras, no recording. The only thing is we get more recording
that's at the Library of Congress or whatever they wanted to have because they document
all that stuff. But he opened up about alcohol.
He opened up about every, you know,
he's like one day I'm sitting at the house
and I'm, you know, having drinks
and I'm sitting there saying,
I missed years of my life with my kids.
What am I doing?
I went and took all the liquor.
I dropped it.
I said, that's it.
I'm not having any alcohol on the more.
I came back, I wanted to be a good example to my father,
I wanted to be a good husband,
good father to my kids, that I'm,
he says, I've changed my life,
and then boom, he became a president,
and he was a guy that used to,
you know, he was a guy that also went through that.
But how did your parents handle the shadow?
Because I think that's the hardest thing to do, right?
How do you manage the shadow where a kid, your brother's an actor as well.
And he goes and does what he does.
And you guys have a different temperament, your personalities in a different
way than his, but he gives you love, he gives you respect.
You guys are a very loving, very united family, even though you have different
opinions.
Was there any moment when they talked about your last name
and the concept of shadow?
This is a great question and this really touches on
pretty like a pretty defining aspect of just my entire life
and my entire story.
Is that while my parents did a great job in raising me
and they were raising me very consciously,
they're great parents, they're great people.
They were not conscious of what it's like to be them. who raised me very consciously, they're great parents, they're great people.
They were not conscious of, they were conscious of what it's like to be them,
but they were not conscious of what it's like
to be in the shadow of them, right?
And I think that's nothing against them.
You know, I mean, they're in their position,
they're dealing with all sorts of factors
being in their position.
You know, you can't see what you don't see, right?
So, because that's an entirely different position to be in the shadows.
What a point.
Right?
So, you don't know what you don't know.
Right?
So, this, like, this, they weren't necessarily capable of providing me, they provided me a lot of guidance in raising me,
but they weren't capable of providing me guidance
in these areas of me just trying to figure out
how to navigate these waters of being in this shadow
of this fame and being on the periphery of it,
but that had nothing to do with me, right?
It had nothing to do with me. right? It had nothing to do with me.
I'm just a fucking kid trying to,
trying to, you know, I know that I've been Delta some cards
and I'm just trying to figure out how to play them
and I have no fucking idea how to do it.
And I, and I, you know, the only way I learned
is through, you know, fucking up,
is through playing them fucking terribly, playing my hand terribly, over and over and over and over
again, right? And that's pretty much, that's kind of like my story right there.
Was he with you on the road a lot?
What leads me to today, right?
Was he on the road a lot? Were they acting on the road thing or not really?
It's not as many road.
My dad did work a lot, but we traveled with him.
Okay, you know, really?
I never felt like, oh, my dad's not around.
That's it.
That never, I never felt that way.
Like, oh, like my dad didn't show up
to my fucking baseball game.
Like, no, none of that, none of that.
My parents were there.
They were always there, right?
It was just, when my struggle wasn't in any lack of, you know, my relationship with
my parents, my struggle was my own struggle in trying to navigate the waters of the world
with this in this shadow and on this peripheryy of this fame, this huge focal point,
that really had nothing to do with me, had nothing to do with me, but I was a proxy of it.
This is where I go, and this is the defining story of my life, and trying to navigate these waters, because the nature of those waters,
the nature of those waters is an entirely different beast than the nature of the waters when
you're a focal point because of your prestige that you've earned, right? When you are a focal point
and you're a goat, like you said, for the work and your talent that you've earned,
focal point and you're a goat, like you said, for the work and you're talent that you've earned in navigating the waters of the world as that, right?
That's an entirely different, entirely different scenario than navigating the waters of the
world for someone who's a proxy of that prestige and that focal point.
But it's just there because they were born in it, not because they did anything
to earn it.
That, that, right?
So like my, the reason why I say that was a, you know, struggle for me is because, God,
I mean, there, there are so many paradoxes, you know, it's just mind-boggling paradoxes is the nature of what I'm talking about.
What I mean by that is, this is the ultimate paradox, right?
Is that my entire life people have always thought,
okay, I walk into a room, okay?
A 14 year old chat walks in.
12 year old chat walks into a room, okay?
Not me, now I'm like a public figure
and people know me for me,
but take it back before them, before anyone knew me,
okay, 14 year old chat walks into a room
No one knows anything about me
All they know is that I'm Tom Hanks's son. Yeah, there's gonna be immediate assumptions. Okay
The assumption right the number one assumption that people make is
Number one I must live the life of like, Richie Rich.
Spoiled Rich kids.
Spoiled Rich brat.
Number two, the assumption is I think
that I'm better than everyone in the room,
that I feel that I truly think that I'm superior
to every single person in that room.
You're a 14 year old kid with a target on his back
before you step in the room.
Before I even step in the room. I mean the truth was that
those both of those things couldn't have been farther from the truth. I wasn't
spoiled. I was blessed. I was privileged, right? But I wasn't spoiled. There's a
big difference. I was privileged because I got to go to I got you know I got
to go to good schools. I got a great education. I had a loving family. I
didn't have to I didn't have to worry. I had a you know I lived in an I got, you know, I got to go to good schools. I got a great education. I had a loving family.
I didn't have to, I didn't have to,
I had to, you know, it lived in,
I got to, you know, travel and do cool shit, right?
But I wasn't spoiled.
I wasn't like, here's your black card.
Go run crazy.
Do whatever you want.
You know what I'm saying?
Here's a freaking, you know, Bentley for your 16th birthday.
Okay, you know what I mean?
None of that.
None of that.
Yeah.
What's the most expensive gift you ever got?
Just so people know, did you ever get like a brand new BMW M5 M3?
No, no, when I turned 16, my first car was a used PT cruiser, 2002 PT cruiser.
I remember the PT cruiser.
Yeah.
And I was thankful to have that car.
But by the way, I assume this was all-
I was thankful to have that car because otherwise by the way, I assume this was all like don't have a tent. I was thankful to have that car
because otherwise I would have to ride the school bus.
Okay, so it wasn't like,
I was stoked on the PT Cruiser.
Okay.
Okay, so you show what a PT Cruiser looks like,
because I know exactly what this looks like.
I like the PT Cruiser at the time.
Killin' the game.
Go, going back to it.
When you're going through that,
by the way, yeah, that's a PT Cruiser.
It was black, it was black.
It was black. At least it got to you. It through that. By the way, that's a PT cruiser. It was black. At least
at least a lot of purple.
Killin' the game, Chad. But you know, when you're going through it,
I watched a couple things. So couple movies was very interesting to watch. While you're
talking about this, it took me there. One is Mark Wahlberg and Jennifer Aniston Rockstar.
Do you remember the movie? Ravi seen the rock star between the two of them?
So he's just a regular guy, all of a sudden, boom.
He blows up and the wives are in another bus
and they're on another bus.
And what happens on that bus?
Don't worry about it.
You're a rock star's wife now.
It's a different life.
You have to understand what he's gonna be doing.
One day they wake up.
You got 20 people, remember that one scene when they're waking? I was like, what the hell just happened? I said,
baby, I don't know what happened last night. But why are all these naked people laying around? Right?
You don't know what's going to happen in that world. And then Justin Bieber had this one song that
came out a couple years ago. I know I just went from Mark Wahlberg to Justin Bieber. It was called
Lonely. Have you put this one up? 2020 when he came up with this last year? I don't know if you've heard the words or not.
It's a slow song, yeah.
But you watch this and Lonely is, he's telling it's a kid himself.
If you go to images, forget about the words.
Go to the images real quick.
And I like what he does with this because it took me there.
Zoom in.
So that's himself when he's a young star coming up, nobody knows what struggles he's going through.
And everyone's just like, okay, you're gonna be up in 10 minutes. You ready? Go ahead and then he goes and he sells a ticket.
His mind is being made, but they don't know like he's trying to say, I've been lonely this entire time, right?
As a Justin Bieber, can't do shit right. If you go to the lyrics, there's something he says on the line about.
I couldn't do shit right. Go back. There's a line there's something he says on the line about. I couldn't do shit right, go back.
There's a line.
I don't know, zoom in a little bit.
Zoom in a little bit.
There's no one going zoom in, everything goes on and on.
No one's listening, so lonely.
Everybody, there's no look, so, keep going down.
Everybody, and everybody saw me sick,
and they feel like no one knew it,
they criticized me, things that I did, and idiot kid.
Right, and he's just, he's explaining it.
Look, man, I'm a kid, I screwed up,
but this is what it felt like.
In life, we get to pick who we marry.
We get to pick our friends.
We get to choose our career.
We don't get to choose our parents,
and we don't get to choose our kids.
We don't.
Those are two things we don't choose,
which means God shows your parents for you,
and God shows you as a kid for them.
But a lot of times when your Tom Hanks, this is why in the documentary, Captain, when
Derek Jeter speaking, the one person that's in the documentary the entire time, you know
who it is in the Captain documentary?
I don't know if you had a chance to watch the Captain documentary.
Michael Jordan's in the documentary.
And Michael Jordan says, around me, Derek can be comfortable and loose because we don't judge.
And around Derek, we feel comfortable because we're ourselves.
If you notice, a lot of goats hang with each other, right?
Tom Brady and David Beckham are like BFFs.
Yeah, so, but why do they?
Because who else is going to understand each other?
Myself. Why do they? Because who else is going under the same, myself? So for you at that time,
will you like friends with another goats, kids
where somebody could under,
was there like an older guy getting a hold of you
and so you didn't have somebody like,
no, that's gotta be tough.
Cause that's, do you know someone I'm asking?
Yeah, of course.
That's gotta be tough, bro, while you're going through
because every industry has somebody
that's mentoring that guy that's going through because every industry has somebody that's mentoring
that guy that's going through it. Someone has to sit there with the preacher's kid and say,
hey, I was also a preacher's kid. It's going to get shitty for you. Here's what you're going to
deal with. Oh my god, you understand my pain. That never happens to you. Wow.
Never. And yeah, like going back to what I was saying about people felt like I was superior.
That the truth was that I felt massively inferior, right?
Because I couldn't understand,
because me walking into any room,
you know what I'm saying,
back to 14 year old chat walks into a room.
Well, after enough times of walking into a room
and everyone fucking hates you, right?
Or everyone, there's this animosity towards you.
You can't even, it's just there. And you feel, I could write, you feel it, right? Or everyone there's this animosity towards you. You can't even, it's just there.
And you feel it, right? You feel it, right? It's just there. Well, eventually you start
feeling, you don't have anything to compare it to. So you're not walking in, oh, I see,
that's a person fucking hates me because of their own issues that they're projecting,
right? Because of their own lack that they feel within themselves because they feel inferior. So they're projecting that onto me, right? I don't, you
don't know that. You don't have anything to compare that to. You just think, why the fuck
is there must be something wrong with me would have all this negative attention towards
me. No one likes me. I just want to be someone's friend and everyone, you know, like, has,
like, has it out for me, right? And I'm already, I'm already a sensitive dude
where my heart on my sleeve, right?
So for a sensitive person, you know, you know, you know,
like when you walk in a room and you, you,
you, you know, or you walk by two people and they're like,
just, you can't tell if they looked at you or not.
You think was that person talking about me,
where they, where they making a joke about me?
And then most people go,
for some times people could say,
they were, they weren't, maybe they weren't.
You know what I'm saying?
A 50-50, maybe they were, maybe they weren't.
I'm not gonna trip about it.
Well, in my case, usually they were, right?
Like usually they were, right?
So my paranoia of constantly feeling on edge was often the not correct.
It was correct. So that creates a whole other beast. Because now I'm trusting, just this this like exponential like like awareness of like social micro
interactions and and like
resentment and negativity and gossip or you know what I mean just I
I felt you know like I was behind fucking enemy lines
I felt like anywhere I went I was in hostile fucking territory. And that is kind of like the defining thing of kind of like
what shaped me and kind of created a monster.
I created a whole nother beast.
Was there no positivity?
Because there was positivity in people that I had known
since I was a little kid.
Because I went to a school and
I grew up at the same kids from like preschool into up until high school right so it's like
if any of you when you know the same kids from when you're four years old they don't give a shit don't get your voice and so time's always I felt I would only feel comfortable with people that I
felt like really solid and had like really solid relationships with, right?
And those were like my brothers that were like, are you still close with them to some of them?
Some of them. You got to have that. But more, yeah, I've always had a base of boys. You know what I'm
saying? Like, you know, as you know, I've through the years, you know, some people, you know, like
drift away, you know, you lose touch. Some people come in because you can always, as I got older,
I have realized, you know, you can tell when somebody because you can always, as I got older, I have realized,
you can tell when somebody's genuine.
You know what I'm saying?
I can always tell when somebody's genuine,
they don't give a shit.
I can spot that shit a mile away.
People are really like, you don't understand,
people are always fucking, they don't want it.
They don't really have it like out for your best interest.
I'm like, I know, I can spot that shit a mile away.
Your blood shit meter must be like this.
You know what I'm saying? I'm like a fucking shark. I can spot that shit on my head. Your blood shit meter must be like this.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like a fucking shark.
I can smell the blood from fucking three miles away.
I can tell when somebody's like,
and I can also tell when somebody's genuine, right?
So I'm very good with that.
You know what I'm saying?
Spidey sense.
Yeah.
How do you tell them apart?
You said a lot of guys want to get close to you
because they're trying to get close to your dad.
You know the difference between somebody that wants to get close to you because they want to have a relationship with you versus some people want to get close to you because they're trying to get close to your dad. You know the difference between somebody that wants to get close to you,
because they want to have a relationship with you versus some people want to get
close to you because they want to get closer to your pops.
How do you know the difference between the two?
Man.
It's kind of just,
it's kind of just like a six sense.
It's hard to put in words.
It's hard to put in words. It's hard to put in words.
There's red flags
But I can't it's hard to describe. It's a really good question. I mean anytime that's like
When someone's like talking to me and then they're like
They say if anytime anyone's saying like,
they just bring them up, like, yeah,
you should tell your dad that.
I'm like, okay, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I'm gonna go tell my dad, like he doesn't know you.
Why the fuck would he care about,
why the fuck would he care about that anecdote from you?
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, you just revealed yourself.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, but that shit is like basic. You know what I'm saying? Like, but that shit is like basic.
You know what I'm saying?
I would never even, that person would have never even
fooled me in the first place.
Do you know what I'm saying?
It would have never even gotten that far
for me to be like duped.
Like, oh my God.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just a sixth sense.
I can smell it.
I can smell it on him.
And you know, it's very common.
And it happens with, and of course,
like with women it's different. Because, you know, it's very common. And it happens with, and of course, like with women, it's different.
Because, you know, women probably are more interested
in you than your dad.
I mean, you know.
Well, I mean, but still, like even when I was growing up
in high school and shit, I could like sometimes, you know,
like I was like 16 and there's like this like soup,
smoke and hot, like 20 year old, you know what I'm saying?
I'm like a little nerdy kid, but she's all interested in me.
Okay, I wasn't a dipshit.
I was like, okay, yeah,
she's interested in me because of this, but fuck it.
You know?
This is something I'm cool with.
Here we go, Chad.
There is a difference between a dude being like,
hey bro, get what I do before you're like,
yeah, I'm good on that talk, right?
Some hot chicks, especially in your 20s and 30s,
you're not a dork anymore. Yeah, exactly. Like, you know what you're getting yourself into, right? Some hot chick, especially in your 20s or 30s, you're not a, you're not a dork anymore. Yeah, exactly. Like, you don't, like, you know what you're getting
yourself into, right? But you know, you know, it's crazy. This whole thing about,
like, you know, the first impression when somebody sees them, you know,
hey, this is a spoiled kid. He's this. He's that. He's this. Okay. There's a,
there's a part of that that has credence because the, even though we shouldn't
judge everybody judges, okay? I remember a friend of mine that has credence because even though we shouldn't judge everybody judges,
okay?
I remember a friend of mine, Fernando Lazo.
And the singer.
Yeah, the singer.
The famous singer of McWedew.
Which by the way, he's coming out to visit Florida.
So first time I get a job at Hollywood, Bally's.
Back then I was in shape and I was like, this was, I wanted to be a, it was my life.
Just got out of the army. I walk and he sees me.
Says, what the sky just looks like?
He just looks like somebody that's arrogant, that's this, that's that.
I'm gonna have a hard time working with you.
We became best friends.
That was one of my groomsmen and I went, some, some, some people are going to have that
looking and they're going to say, you look like somebody that would be like that.
And then next, you know, I like the sky, right?
But, but, you know, in regards to like even James Corden, you know, in regards to, like, even James Corden,
you saw what happened with James Corden recently.
Do you hear about that or no?
He's going to this one restaurant.
Did you see how the baltas are?
Did you see this or no?
Can you put the subs so people can see it?
So, James Corden goes to this restaurant.
James Corden goes to this restaurant and, thank you.
Yeah, you got it.
James Corden goes to this restaurant
and he starts chewing out the, the waitress
and a waiter twice.
So the owner of the restaurant, you didn't hear about this.
No, post the Instagram post of what the owner said.
Put that up and let's read that first, the first one
before he goes to the second one.
It's classic.
This is why sometimes stars get a bad reputation
because of stories like this that gets revealed
and people finally say, you know what,
I just, I don't wanna deal with this Hollywood star.
He's a headache.
I pulled him over one time.
He was so rude to me as a cop, you can't find it.
Oh my God, you gotta find to see,
okay, right there, right there,
is a click on that one.
And then go to the first one he posted,
because it's a couple of them.
That's the owner of the restaurant.
Keep going down, let's just see if he removed it or not.
Okay, first one, right there, click on that, zoom in.
Did this sermon restaurant, okay, he removed it.
Give me just a minute. Yeah, he has another one anyway, so he says to him
Let me find it here you have to see this one James cordon
restaurant owner
So James cordons in trouble right now. Oh my but you should have seen what happens to the point of weight
No, he's not a big trouble at all. There's there's nothing about it that is
Here you go. I just found that I'm gonna send it to you. I'm gonna send it to you. I'm gonna read it
So he goes to this restaurant and he's having dinner and it's a very very famous restaurant in New York, okay?
So the owner comes out and he posts he says James Gordon is a huge
He'll give to comedian by the tiny Creek and have a man and the most abusive customer to my balsa's our services since the restaurant open 25 years ago
I don't often
66 a customer
But today I'd 66th cordon it did not make me laugh here are two example of the funny man
Treatment of my staff manage Managed report number one.
And June James Corden was here on table 61.
He's been very detailed.
Although this diabolical,
it happens very occasionally in all restaurants.
After eating his main course, Corden showed the hair
to Balta's our manager, G, who was very apologetic.
Corden was extremely nasty to G and said,
get us another round of drinks this second.
And also, take care of all of our drinks so far.
This way I write any nasty reviews to Yelp
or anything like that.
He says, man, there's a report number two.
James Gordon wants a baltazar with his wife
on October 9th for brunch.
He asked for a table outside.
brunch, matrede, alley Walters,
took the party to table 301. Mr.
Corden's wife ordered an egg yolk omelet with cheese and salad. A few minutes later, they
received a food, James called their server and told her that there was a little bit of egg,
white mixed with egg yolk. And informed the floor manager, the kitchen remade the dish,
but unfortunately, send it to home fries instead of but unfortunately send it to home fries instead of a...
Send it with home fries instead of salad.
That's when James Corden began yelling like crazy to the server.
You don't do your job.
You don't do your job.
Maybe I should go into the kitchen and cook the omelette myself.
And then MK, the waitress, was very apologetic and brought...
Corden over the table.
He returned the dish and after that, everything was fine.
He gave them promo champagne glass to smooth things out and
cordon was pleasant to him but nasty to the server who was shaking by it, but professional that she admitted she decided to continue anyways
So the owner post this who owns this restaurant. Yeah
two days later
He posts another one and he gets a call from cordon and cordon calls him
Very apologetic. He says I have to post this Gordon. And Gordon calls him very apologetic.
He says, I have to post this now.
He called, he was very apologetic.
He was sincere about it.
And I have decided to remove and his suspension
and he can come back to the restaurant.
And apparently yesterday, Gordon on his late show
addressed this in a very interesting way.
He addressed this yesterday.
So there's a reason why sometimes,
no, your restaurant feels really sorry
for James Gordon after exposing him.
And now he's feeling sorry about it
because everyone's talking about this.
But you hear these types of stories.
How Hollywood stars sometimes go places
and they feel like they're entitled.
That's the biggest thing, the feeling entitlement.
So apparently with you, and by the way,
that whole story you were talking about how you would go places
and people were looking and one day you're like,
screwed, I'm gonna be this person when he came out of the camp.
It's almost like Kobe Bryant when he was being judged
constantly, and I'm not making a comparison
to the late Kobe Bryant in basketball.
Let's demite it.
If you think I'm evil, I'm gonna be evil.
If you think I am this bad guy, guess what?
I'm gonna play this role, and I'm gonna play naturally.
I'm gonna give it to you, black mamba.
So psychologically, it almost forces you
to play that card.
It's very hard to, you know, wanna play a different role
than you kind of also almost wanna retaliate
because you're being judged for no reason.
I can see that happen.
Yeah, exactly.
You can see that happen.
I can see that happen. So going back to You can see that happening. I can see that happening.
So going back to the beginning
when we started talking about the stuff,
you went right into the politics.
You talked about Biden.
You think things are really good right now.
You think things are really okay right now
with what's going on with politics.
Are you saying that same when you were talking about
how California is a mess?
I think it's a mess.
Yeah, you said California is a mess.
Homelessness, drugs, you see syringes everywhere. It's an, I've never seen anything like's a mess, yeah. You said California is a mess, homelessness, drugs,
you see syringes everywhere.
It's like, I've never seen anything like it.
Yeah, and then I said to you, I said,
you Biden got 81 million votes
and you're like, you're thinking it's good.
Tell me what part of the economy is good.
Well, I mean, I think back then too,
I mean, it was, like 2020 hindsight, right?
Cause that was before, I mean, it was still,
COVID was still happening,
but it wasn't like in
full swing, right?
The vaccine hadn't come out yet.
There was no vaccine controversy, right?
It was just all the crazy Trump was saying, which I still disagree with.
I think he could have been a much better president
if he had just been a little bit more kind or courteous
like in how he phrased things and not being so divisive,
but I also kind of look back on it and see how,
you know, the media also had a big part to play in that
and just stirring up the pot constantly, you know.
So just looking back on things,
but like I said, 2020 hindsight,
but it's just unfortunate.
I think the whole thing is unfortunate.
I think our entire political climate is unfortunate.
Like I think it's unfortunate that people have to choose
between two extremes.
I think that most people, at least more people,
most people I know feel the same way I do.
Everything I just said, they agree with me, right?
Most people I know, most people I talk to
on the street, complete strangers, agree with me.
You know what I'm saying?
But why aren't we allowed to say this?
I'm not allowed to say this, well fuck you.
I'm gonna say it anyway, right?
Why aren't we allowed to say this?
It's an opinion.
Yeah, I think opinions obviously everyone could have that.
However, you know, because I just,
just from me voicing an opinion, a complete,
and like I said, I'm fucking moderate, dude.
Right? I'm moderate.
I'm a moderate, rational person.
But just from me saying anything
that doesn't fit in to the fucking left,
like everything that they encapsulate,
I'm just me having this rational conversation
is like an extreme in this point, right?
Like this can be viewed, just me having the audacity
to say the fucking truth is labeled as an extreme opinion.
What's extreme about it? is like, is labeled as an extreme opinion.
What's extreme about it? What's extreme about saying,
wow, LA has gone to shit.
Look at all these other cities, they're the same thing.
It's not just LA.
LA has gone to shit.
There's, they're allowing open hardcore drug usage on the streets,
tent cities to build up.
They're forcing people to get vaccines.
They're pushing an agenda of fucking fear.
Let's make everybody as fucking afraid as possible.
Meanwhile, they're forcing people to wear masks, okay?
Meanwhile, Gavin Newsom at the fucking Rams game
He's gone. It doesn't have a fucking mask on then the picture get this is unlike fucking what a year of this mask mandate
He's I'll chill with no mask on then when that picture started to catch heat then okay, they'll be they lift the masks
Convenient right because you got caught being a fucking hypocrite forcing all these people to wear fucking masks for
Over a year.
And you don't even fucking believe it yourself, right?
Cause you're at the fucking Rams game without a mask on.
Then once the heat gets on, okay, now it's safe to wear a mask.
Yeah, okay.
Right.
The tense that the homelessness everywhere.
I feel bad for those people.
Okay, I have sympathy for my heart goes out to those people.
But at what point does this point does the city just go,
hey, you gotta get this shit out of here.
You gotta move these tents somewhere else.
If you don't, you were given you this much time
to get your shit and leave.
If you don't, we're gonna bulldoze it.
If you had to go back, would you change your vote
or you'd still vote for Biden?
I've never voted before in my life.
You've never voted before. I've never voted.
You don't think you have impact as one person or why haven't you?
I can't see in the family.
A little bit of both.
You don't think your vote has.
I mean, I know that's not cool.
You know, it's not cool.
It's a privilege to vote.
People die for our right to vote.
I've just never voted. But also, I'm not a foreigner. Your vote's almost irrelevant. It's a privilege to vote. People die for our right to vote. I've just never voted.
But also I've never voted almost irrelevant. Yeah, it is. I mean, I've never cared enough to actually fucking register and go down the balls of the dog
I've never voted, you know, I also just fucking hate politics, which is funny because it doesn't seem like it right now. Yeah, exactly
You're very spoken, but you're not, but I let me let me let me push back a little bit brother because you're very outspoken you have very hardcore beliefs. You're not shy at all
Doesn't you know voting kind of gives you the right to be vocal if you don't vote that's that's your right to be vocal
I'm not proud of how do you how do you grapple with that? I'm not proud of the fact that I've never voted
Maybe I will vote this next time
But that's the truth I haven't I've never voted for Maybe I will vote this next time. But that's the truth, I haven't.
I've never voted for anybody in my life, for anything.
I just got my opinions, I just have my voice.
But I feel like your voice is more important than the vote.
I feel like if more people started using their fucking voice,
then, you know, we might not be so resistant.
Well, I don't know about that, bro,
because if everyone just talked shit,
but didn't vote, then we wouldn't have a like yeah, I see I see your point. I see your point
I mean, I ideally you should use your voice and vote yeah, right? Yeah, exactly
Especially if you have strong opinions like the ones you do especially if yeah if you're saying which because what you just said
Is not very popular in the state you ran and by the way, what's keeping you in California? Why are you still staying in California?
It's my home.
It's my home.
I'm not going anywhere else, it's my home.
What needs to happen there for you to leave?
Nothing?
I mean, I'm from Iran, bro, and that's my home,
but I'm in U.S. right now.
So, you know, I can see a lot of people
who are immigrants in U.S. who were born elsewhere.
Yeah, I mean, that's a good question.
I don't know, I don't think I'll ever leave.
I love LA, I love LA, I love, I love.
But when you see what Garcetti and Newsom are doing,
there must be some point where you're like,
all right, homeless everywhere, mandates everywhere,
just shit on the streets, just getting annoying.
Vocism, yeah.
At some point, you're like, all right.
Like, if someone does this, like you always do this,
like do this, do this.
At some point, you're gonna spaz out and freak out, right?
There must be a tipping point at some point.
Yeah, well, I guess I'm just hoping that she gets better.
Maybe if you voted.
Yeah.
I mean, that's valid.
That's valid.
You know what I'm saying? You're're like you're checking me a little bit
But but you're right honestly right because it's a privilege to fucking vote and I've never and I've never utilized it
So I appreciate that here's what's gonna happen when you vote whether you vote left or right you're gonna walk in the booth and
Other than you know president vice president governor. There going to be all the props and shit. Yeah.
Dude, good luck reading that.
Good luck understanding that.
We're pretty educated, well, verse person.
And I struggle understanding these voting amendments, whatever they are, propositions,
struggle.
So if you're the average person, and the way that they word these bills and amendments
and propositions, you
don't know what the hell you're walking into.
So imagine you're the average person, you're just checking left, right?
Up to now you're voting for justices and Congress people you've never heard of and director
of agriculture, you're just checking fucking boxes.
Yeah.
You know, it's crazy.
I'd never had any intention of speaking on anything politically coming up here today.
That's how it happened.
I don't know where.
Right off the bat.
Yeah, I had no intention.
I try to avoid politics, but if it happens naturally, then the older you get, the more it
matters, the older especially, you got a daughter.
You got a family now.
So the way you vote impacts, is there anybody in mind you have that if they ran in
2024 that would earn your vote. I have no idea. You're not following anything. I'm not following anything. None of it really. Okay, so did you see what happened?
I just go off what I see, you know what I'm saying? I just go off of what I see and I call a spade a spade.
Can I ask you a question guys? I don't you're a hip-hop guy. Yeah, sure. I mean you had a hit-h You're a hip hop guy, yeah? Sure. I mean, you had a hit song.
Yeah. Right?
LA, you're seeing what's going on with Kanye these days.
Okay, the guys talking about, you know,
having opinions, sometimes extreme opinions
have extreme consequences.
You see what's happening with Kanye.
Adidas just dropped him.
This is after you saw the sign on the 404 on the highway basically saying, we stand with Kanye, a deedist just dropped him. This is after, you saw the sign on the 404
on the highway basically saying,
we stand with Kanye, you know,
404, 405.
405, I followed this way.
My bet.
405.
Okay.
Kanye is right about the Jews,
he's anti-Semitism things,
he said he's gonna go DEF CON3 on Jews.
I mean, you're talking about Kanye here
who basically, look, I boil it down to music, business, and life.
So if you factor in music as someone who understands hip hop
and has had done music, like his music, in my opinion,
he was on goat status, his music has gone downhill
over the last five years or so.
Since graduation and all that good stuff,
don't the album and life of Pablo,
not exactly
lighting up the charge as previous albums or we've removed from Coachella,
removed from Rolling Loud, CAA dropped him, Def Jam dropped him, now a
D-tis drop but he doesn't no longer work with the gap, Vogue, Balenciaga, the
list goes on and on and then you couple that with the fact that, you know, everything that happened with Kim,
it's kids, you know, his mom passed away, depression,
bipolar, like all he has left is that this seems
as he bought parlor and he's doubling down on
white lives matter and doubling down on MAGA.
It just seems like he's fucking losing it.
I'm not sure if this is a cry for help.
I'm not sure if this is like, he's just like burning all bridges.
Like, it just seems he's going down the tubes, in my opinion.
And this is someone that I had the utmost respect for years ago,
but he's losing it, and he's doubling down on anti-Semitism in Hollywood.
Anyway, I'm just teaming this up for a conversation as someone who's white.
Your wife is, or your ex is black. Hollywood. I'm just teaming this up for a conversation as someone who's white. Your
wife is or your ex is black. I'm not married. No, your ex you have a black half black half white
just like him. You're in hip hop. Point is you're in LA. You're you're around this culture. You
must have some opinions on what Kanye's got going on right now. I honestly have a big
attention to it at all. No, no, I mean, no. I mean, it seems like there's always
something going on. It's like, what else is
there? You're just turning it out. Can you zoom in into that other article you
went into going to the other article? So zoom in to that. I want to say what it's
saying on the bottom of. Is that CNN? Zoom in right there, what it says under the
picture to see how they're describing that picture right there. Zoom in a
little bit more. A photograph shared on Verified the Campaign Twitter account of LA Mayor of Canada, Kevin
Bass, shows a group of demonstrators with banners showing support for Rapper Kanye West recently.
Anti-Semitic remarks on a LA freeway over past Saturday CNN has blurred a portion of the
image that included a reference to a website
with anti-Semitic content.
So what is the reference of the way they're having
their hands being held?
Are they waving at the cars, going by, or are they saying?
Those are neo-nazis, Pat. Are you being serious that you believe that? Yes.
So you're being serious to believe.
What are these guys doing?
Do you think they're waving at cars in that picture?
God, you are, Bob.
Those are just as much part of the problem.
That, you're just-
Tell me what that means.
Listen, do you understand how easy it is for me
to pay a hundred bucks to each of these people
to go stand there and put their hands up
and I give you a hundred bucks. Do that for 30 seconds.
Let me just get the picture.
Go home.
Are you saying that's what's happening?
All I'm saying to you is you can't be that naive
and not be skeptical to think that during election time
anything's being used to divide the hell out of America.
That's a different story.
No, it's not a different story.
You're saying this is a political prop?
All I'm saying to you is this image, what this does is
it creates emotion, okay, which is what it just did to you is this image, what this does is it creates emotion, okay, which is what
it just did to you.
And it's meant to do that.
So it won.
Now, you can sit there and say, I don't really know if these people are actors or they're
real.
Who the fuck would take that acting?
Who the fuck wouldn't take $100 right now to spend $100 to go pretend you're a CEO?
Do you know what you can get for $100 now.
That's it Pat.
Wait, do you, you,
you have to understand this.
If you fully believe that they're
standing there doing this,
defending Kanye, a black man,
neo-Nazis are defending.
Do you realize how dumb that is
to even believe that?
There has nothing to do with Kanye.
It has the fact that he is
supporting anti-Semitism.
No, it's not.
What is he going to stand for? So, so, it's not. Which is what these people stand for.
If, so, and so neo-Nazis would support a Kanye's philosophy.
Okay.
If it's anti Judaism and it's anti Zionist, and it's pro-hate,
I'm not here to do it. That's exactly what I'm saying.
I'm not defending Kanye. I'm not defading the opposition.
All I'm saying to you is pictures, producing motions, and these people in politics are brilliant.
If they want to defame anybody,
there are so many creative ways to do it.
This is one of them that produces emotion
out of someone like you,
and then you have to go out there and say,
Kanye has lost his mind and he's doing XYZ.
That's what the position has to be.
Pat what?
There's two separate things that are going on here.
There's whatever Kanye is doing. Whatever on here. There's whatever Kanye's
doing. Yeah. Whatever is doing. Sure. Anti-missemitism, defconnry, talking shit. Adidas will not cancel
me. Adidas will not cancel me. That's a different discussion. We'll get into here in a minute. This is
my point. Sure. There are two nuance discussion. Yeah. Adidas will not cancel me. I can say anything I
want. Well, turns out Adidas just did cancel you, homie.
Turns out what you're saying does every precaution.
Does that have to do with this picture?
Don't change subject. Stay on this picture here.
I said specifically, I'm gonna make two points.
See it to me.
That was point one.
Point two, people have eyeballs, people have eardrums.
They're seeing what Kanye sang.
These fucking scumbag neo-nazis,
I don't believe they're political pawns.
I actually believe they didn't get paid a hundred dollars
To go do a seek pile. I actually think they're taking a message and amplifying it and showing up in LA
You're part of the problem. I'm part of the problem. Yeah, you know why you're part of the problem. Please tell me why I'm
You want me to really tell you why you part of the? Okay, what is the whole premise behind Innocent View
before proving guilty, right?
Okay, versus guilty until proven innocent.
Okay. Okay.
You know how many.
Let's see more images.
You know how many times you ever seen these pictures
that show medias manipulation,
showing someone getting stabbed
and then you open up the picture and like,
oh shit, I didn't see this.
How many times an angle of a picture like this looks like they're flipping them off and they
turn it around, they're like this.
Do you know how many ways there is to produce emotion out of people like you to say what
you just said?
And everyone's going to sit there, oh my god, I can't believe that's what happened.
I freaking hate Kanye.
You know, this guy's a dis...
Relax, guys.
Relax.
You don't have all the intel. You don't have all the intel.
I don't have all the intel.
This could be right, but it also could be wrong.
For me to say 100% this is wrong,
or 100% this is right, I am naive.
I refuse to be naive and manipulated
by the same damn media that divided America
over the last six years, and now they're rating suck
because people figure their shit out.
That's what I'm now willing to do.
Okay.
I think you were like bringing up a really good point
because this is my take, right?
Is that like somebody could come in here right now
and say, hey, Chet, your family drinks a drain of chrome.
You do all, you do this, that, and that in the third you guys are you call me every name
And they could say the most fucking vital shit to me imaginable, right and
And I could go
Okay, that's your opinion right I don't need to go
Rally and create an entire campaign to like ruin this fucking person who I don't give a fuck about these guys are pro because they he stated an opinion right like
Like fucking
Antutate right okay
You've got you asked me how do you feel about Andrew tape right?
Well
right? Well, if I say I like Andrew Tate, then I get classified as like a misogynist. If I say I don't like Andrew Tate, then I'm completely denying all
the intelligent things that that man has to say. Here's the fact, okay? Do I
agree with every single thing that he says? Does he have some hot takes? Yeah, here's the fact, okay? Do I agree with every single thing that he says?
It does he have some hot takes?
Yeah, he's got some hot takes, okay?
Do I, but here's what people don't understand,
is that like if you wanna make an impact,
you have to be polarizing, right?
That's the reason why he achieved so much success
because he was polarizing, right?
That's why he, his message even, a part of, he achieved so much success because he was polarizing, right?
That's why he, his message even a part of, the public sphere is because he's polarizing.
You have to shake people up a little bit, right?
But no matter what he says,
I'm not taking it personally, right?
I can, I can, how hard is it to allow a person
to speak their mind about anything?
And not want to then, like,
just go, completely start an entire, like,
black ball, it's like the Salem witch trials.
Anybody can say anything,
I'm not gonna fucking crucify them
for stating their opinion.
I, even if I don't agree with it, right?
Like what happened to this?
What happened to this, this quality
of allowing someone to just say an opinion
or anything that's on their mind
within having to crucify them if you disagree with them?
Do you know what I'm saying?
I know fully what you're saying,
and I'm fully with it.
All I'm saying is to folks out there
is don't be naive to jump to conclusion
in what these guys do.
Listen, if there's anybody right now, Adam,
tell me who, and this goes to everybody.
When it goes to Kanye West,
we're gonna go back to Kanye West, we're going to go back to Kanye
West here in a minute.
Tell me who has high credibility right now, low credibility right now.
Who's trusted today?
So let's go through, I'll ask the question, give me a score for them from zero to ten.
And then I'm going to ask you the question, you give me the answer from zero to ten.
Pastors, zero to ten.
Pastors, let me change the word, priests, not pastors.
Not as high as they could have been or should have been.
Okay, let's go to the next one.
How about, I don't know, college football coaches.
Do they make positive impact or negative impacts in kids' lives?
For the most part, positive.
Okay, cool.
How about military, generals?
Positive. Positive. How about politicians? Very negative. Very negative. Okay, how about the media?
Not trustworthy. How about billionaires? In reality, trustworthy. According to a lot of people,
untrustworthy. Got it. So, but in reality, they're creating jobs. Okay, how about social media virtual governments? Good, bad, positive, negative, all the above at once. Okay,
how about universities, colleges, our current educational system?
Uh, has skewed way too far left. Out of everything I just said to you, which one of
those has the least credibility today? Politicians. And then I would put one for politicians. I would
put one before politicians. You know who it is? You know government? No, it's media.
Media. Okay. I would put media doesn't have credibility today. Okay. Absolutely. So for me,
100% agree. For me to sit there and see every by the way, I just sent you a couple different
things. I want you to see this. So here's what I want you to look at okay
Here's what I want you to look at I'm gonna send you these pictures and I'm gonna do an air drop and
Tatter if you can pull these up. Okay, that's one of them perfect. That's exactly one of them. I was sending to you zoom in a little bit so people can see it
From this angle looks like he's flipping flip him off from the other angle looks like what? So guess which one's gonna get more eyeballs?
Why would I use the picture on the right?
Use the picture on the left.
People gonna look at that article more.
Okay, go to the next one I just sent you.
Okay, go to the next one I just sent you.
Okay, go to the next one I just sent you.
The image I just sent you.
Look at this one here.
I just sent you look at this one here
Can you make it are you getting it or should I just text it to you?
Todd, did you get it or no? Okay, I would like to see how the media back to the neo Nazi thing in LA.
I'd like to, if you're right, I will gladly on air say that I was wrong.
No, no, but define right.
When I say, if I'm right, what is right?
What am I saying to be right?
What was my point of being right?
You're saying that possibly the media manipulated this story of neo Nazi.
I'm right.
You're 100% right?
I'm 100% right that possibly they could use that.
But you're also 100% wrong potentially.
No, no.
Like maybe they were actually neo-nazi's.
No, you're 100% wrong.
You're 100% wrong.
Because you're saying definitely that's neo-nazi's.
You're 100% wrong.
What I'm saying is this could possibly be wrong and we have to understand look at this year the TV
You look at that image right there. It looks like a guy stabbing another guy
But you look at the picture doesn't look like a guy stabbing the other guy stabbing this guy
We we cannot be disnaived today. So so when will we find out the truth?
Dude some shit takes 30 years to find that. What do you talk with Russia took three and a half years? Iran, what happened with Iran took us 30 years for CIA come out
with movies to tell us what really happened. Would US's involvement in Kissinger Carter,
all that, it took us 30 years to figure some of this stuff out. Yeah, but this is a little
more black. It's, but it's not more than you want. Because these are professionals. You
have to understand when you're going up against professionals, you're an amateur compared
to mainstream media. These guys wake up in the morning saying how the hell can I get you to get pissed off and
Produce emotions. That's their job. Yeah, that's what they do. By the way, Rampers hip-hop artists
What song produced emotions will give me one hip-hop song that produced such emotion that we played it when we were working out in the 90s
What was a song hit them up? Hit em up. Hit em up.
Produced the motion.
Yeah.
To pack them what he was doing.
It produced emotions were like,
hell yeah.
Okay, what other song by Bone Thugs and Harmony
produced the emotions?
We're not against rappers.
We're not against rappers,
but we are against those thugs, thugs, thugs.
And we're like, oh my god.
This is sick that pretty good.
You wanted to work out to that album,
more murder and all these guys, right?
You have to know these are professionals.
They're professionals and we can't constantly see stuff. So now let's go back to Kanye. Can you
go back to that article with Adidas? Do you know how much Adidas lost yesterday for dropping them?
Does anybody know how much Adidas lost? 500 million. Five percent of a five percent was a drop off.
So zoom in a little bit. Let's read some of the state that we have here. Adidas terminates partnership with Yee. Kanye, following rappers anti-Semitic remarks, the German
sportswear giant had faced pressure from public and its own employees to cut ties. Adidas
said that they would have a short term negative impact of 250 million euros on net income
in 2022 due to highly seasonability in the Ford quarters talent agency C.A. confirmed it has dropped Kanye as a
Client Monday and he was let go by
What's that when I can't see it can you zoom in C.A.A. C.A.A. C.A.A.
Last week, okay, so stock that's like creative artists agency is one of the biggest ones damn WMA I think it's like a couple those guys up there. Yeah, all right. So guess what a
D this is supported Colin Kaepernick stock went up. I'm sorry because them, WMA, I think it's like a couple of those guys up there. All right, so guess what?
Adidas has supported Colin Kaepernick, stock went up.
I'm sorry, not a nice support to Colin Kaepernick, stock went up the next day.
Adidas drops Kanye's stock, goes down.
We can still see Adidas being right for the decision they made for dropping Kanye and
his positions.
The part with Kanye that he kept doing, you know, there's a phrase I use when
I say, you know, saint status. Saint status is like when he was talking to saint certain
things and he was Tom Lee politics in California, all I thought about is does this affect his
dad's career? And I said, not really because he's a saint status. It's Tom Hanks. Like, hey,
listen, man, we can, Tom Hanks is in a movie,
guess what you and I are doing on Friday night.
We're watching Tom Hanks, period.
You got a lineup with what?
We got a saving private Ryan,
one of the most emotional movies in my life,
because I joined the Army Hunter and Frans,
and they said there's a movie coming out,
you're gonna be the first to see it before the world sees it.
We sat there, we cried like a little frickin' baby
at the end saying, did I make my life count and his wife's looking at him saying,
it's okay, baby, you were in tears.
These guys are going to save this guy's life,
saving private Ryan because what?
Because he's the only one that's left to continue.
You got all these other movies that you've got.
Forrest, come on, forrest, come on.
Toy story, catch me if you can, save him private.
She thinks, yeah, legal her own.
He's uncancelable.
He is.
He's not frickinable. He is. He is. He's not
freaking Tom Hicks just guy, but, but no, but he is in that status of goat status. This
is I watch black Adam music. For music. He is. I watch black Adam this weekend. What's
the rock? What song is in black Adam? What song? Kanye song. I think it's called Power
Roots. Yeah. What the Facebook song or the social network.
The movie, talk about timing.
You come out with that movie.
In a way, you're kind of supporting his song
at a time like this.
Black Adam just came out this weekend
and the main song, one of the main songs in the movie
is his, this guy is one of the greatest artists
we ever had, but he thinks they can't touch him.
He's untouchable.
Well, unfortunately, gonna keep doing this to him.
A conversation that we continually have here
is how do you remove the art from the artist, right?
Whether that's art Kelly, whether it's Michael Jackson,
whether it's Frickin' Kanye now.
You can't compare those three, put them in the same category.
This guy didn't.
A lot of people would put him in that hip-hop category.
No, of talent or in hip-hop.
Kanye is on goat mountain.
Oh, not what they did with their personal lives. in a talent or in hip hop, Kanye is on goat mountain.
Oh, not what they did with their personal lives.
I'm just saying art and artistry.
I'm just saying separating the two, whether it's,
whatever the issue is, whether it's Picasso,
whether it's Michael Jackson, whatever the,
Jackson and I kill these issues are different
than Kanye's issues, bro.
You can't put those, he would be offended
if you compare those three together.
The point is, I'm separating the musical talent
from the personal life of the person,
which seems to be in a downward spiral.
Not Michael Jackson or Kelly status, buddy.
It's like, you're trying to compare
some father TV dads with Bill Cosby.
Bill Cosby was a mess. So the personal, what Bill Cosby. No, Bill Cosby was a mess.
So the personal, what Bill Cosby did
is a different story of what he was being accused for.
This guy's just being accused for
saying words that are offensive.
Not what Arkelli did.
Not what Michael Jackson's being accused of.
Parents would come over and the kids would go up,
they're saying he's gonna play with them and the parents are downstairs eating food and hanging out. That's being accused of. He parents would come over and the kids would go up and say, and he's gonna play with them
and the parents are downstairs eating food and hanging out.
That's kind of fair point.
I'm just saying musically gifted.
As a person, it seems like he is in a goddamn free fall.
Well, this is like what I was kind of
trying to touch on earlier, right?
Like, I really don't know what Kanye said or didn't say,
so I can't really speak on it.
Obviously, anti-semitism is terrible.
Obviously, everybody should love everybody.
Obviously, gross generalizations on any group of people
is the epitome of ignorance.
But I don't know what Kanye said.
I also know that the media, you could say,
it's a nice breeze today.
And the media will somehow skew it as saying,
you're in the middle of a fucking hurricane.
You know what I'm saying?
This is what you're saying.
Because I've experienced that myself, right?
Like when I did the Jamaican accent, right?
Okay, nobody, like I was the one on my phone,
like reading the comments, okay?
What I noticed when that happened is that
it was an outpouring of love,
like pure love from Jamaicans.
Okay, it was incredible.
Like Jamaicans, people were commenting, messaging me,
in Patois, given me so much love and respect,
because they knew that I was showing love to their culture, right?
It was an outpouring of love and support from actual Jamaicans.
Meanwhile, that, it was on CNN.
It was on CNN that I did the Jamaican accent
and they labeled me as mocking Jamaican culture
and being a cultural appropriator.
So it's completely, I've noticed personally,
and I've been personally offended
by the way the media can attack people
and make a fucking mockery of the truth.
So I've seen that firsthand, right?
And I take it and I took it personally.
I took it personally, because that's not fucking true.
Jamaicans, people from Jamaica are giving me the most love
and you're talking about all these social justice warriors
that are labeling me a villain for doing the accent.
So, like, what's the fucking,
that there's a huge bridge here between the truth
and what the media is portraying?
That's a fact, all right?
So, I think that's what you were speaking on, Patrick, right?
Yeah, I'm just going to a point where, so first of all,
the comment he made is the follow comment. Okay.
Kanye West says he'll go death country on Jews and now remove tweets.
Zoom in.
I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when I wake up, I'm going death country on Jewish people.
The funny thing is I actually can't be anti-Semitic because black people are actually Jews also. You guys have toyed with me and tried a black ball, anyone, whoever opposes your agenda.
Okay. First of all, when you're saying I'm a bit sleepy tonight, you should have just slept instead of just tweeting that coming out.
Having said that, you know, you know, Elon Musk called him and they had a conversation to get.
I don't think he has no this or not. Type in Elon Musk called Kanye West and he told him,
hey, you may want to kind of, you know,
in other words, just chill on what you're saying here.
Here we go, zoom in so we can read this one here.
Elon Musk says he spoke to Kanye West
about anti-Semitic tweet called a lower.
So Elon Musk revealed on Twitter Monday night,
okay, actually let's read his tweet, okay.
Welcome back to Twitter,
my friend. Talk to you today and express my concern about his recent tweet, which I think he
took to heart. Okay, cool. There you have it. Hey, you said something bad. Let's talk to you. Don't
say that again, man. You're offending people. What is that all about? What were you thinking when
you tweeted that out? And then you move on. This will not be the last time a human being said something
dumb. And we will also say things last time a human being said something dumb.
And we will also say things dumb.
And when you say something dumb,
you're gonna want to hope people remember how forgiving you were
to not put the standards of walking on water
because then you're gonna want some people to say,
hey, like you remember when Cuomo was getting canceled?
And Andrew Cuomo was getting canceled and everybody was coming
after him. And he was bashing Trump for what he did. And then
stories came about Andrew Cuomo, you're like, Oh, man, you act
like a saint. Until now the stories are being talked about you
and now you made Trump look like the idiot. And now you're the
one that's actually being canceled and fired as a governor
where you have to resign because of what you did do dude, you may want to judge a little bit less.
We're in a society where we jump to conclusion,
we want to judge everybody we hate.
I'm sorry.
I'm not a LeBron James fan.
I'm not a LeBron James fan.
Period.
I don't like his policies, but I have to tell you,
I have to understand that this guy was raised
without a father to make it where he's at today
Where his kids love him his sons admire him and they want to be like him when they grow up and
He named his kid Lebron and his son decided to change his name to Bronnie and he was okay with that and they're still best friends
I don't like this guy's politics, but man, you got to respect this guy as a father.
So we have to sit there and say, dude, I don't agree with you, but I don't want to judge you. I don't want to
because if I'm judging you, I'm expecting myself to be perfect and I'm God and you're not.
Exactly. So that was my point. Is that what's so hard about
about refraining from judging a person,
just because of an opinion that they share.
It's like taking every single opinion that someone says
is like a personal attack.
This is like the normal now.
Every single person is walking around
on any public figure that they don't even fucking know
on anything that comes out of their mouth.
They take it personally.
This is a personal attack on me,
and I have a right to be offended,
and I have a right to join the crusade
to fucking cancel you, right?
Whereas you could just not give a fuck.
What's so hard about not giving a fuck?
What's so hard about saying,
I don't fucking know that person,
so I can't judge them.
I haven't met them.
I haven't fucking shook their hand.
I haven't looked them in the eye before.
I don't know who they are.
I like to know it's about a fucking word
that came,
some words that came out of their mouth.
That's not enough criteria for me to make a judgment
on this person as a fucking person, right?
This is my opinion, because like this is what I,
what I was saying with Andrew Tate,
this is what happened to Andrew Tate, right?
He got canceled as being, as people making assumptions
about his character, when they don't fucking know his character,
right?
Because like, like, you, somebody can say any,
like, does that, do I agree with everything
that he said about, like, women and shit?
No.
Am I personally offended by anything he said?
No, because I don't know him, right?
But like I also see that he's a smart man,
he's extremely intelligent.
He has a massive successful business, online business.
And then you start seeing like, how did he do that?
Well, one of the reasons how he did that is by being polarizing.
You have to be, being polarizing is an asset
in order to stand out on the internet and social media.
If 50% of people love you and 50% of people hate you,
that's a pretty good ratio.
That's a pretty good ratio because that polarization a pretty good ratio because then because that polarization is getting attention,
that attention is getting some people are going to hate you, cool, fuck off.
The people that are going to love you are going to fucking love you and they're your tribe,
right?
And that's who you want.
So you're broadcasting yourself to more people to fucking love you, right?
And so it's like, like, why does that mean if he has a controversial opinion
from some, from some outtakes that are people are posting on like, of this content about this or
that, why does that, why does that give the powers that be the right to, to cancel him, to remove
him completely, to delete him? What gives them the right to do that?
So that we don't have free speech.
That's what it's saying is saying we don't have free speech.
It's saying if you become so successful,
if you reach this level of success
and you're still voicing your fucking opinions,
freely, then you're gone.
You're gone.
Because if he wasn't successful,
no one would even give a shit.
There's people like regular people every day
that post crazy wild shit on Instagram
and no one gives a shit because there are no buddies.
But if you reach this level of success
and you're making this much money
and you're making this money from an online business,
meaning on over the internet,
well, if it's successful, now you're not allowed
the voice in the opinion. Now if you're voice in the opinion and you're making your money
from the internet, boop, you're off the internet. You know, that's fucking wrong. That's wrong.
That's way more wrong than any, like, controversial opinion, Andrew Tate said about anything, about women, obviously,
like, you know, like call them bitches or whatever, okay?
Like, okay, I can see how people are like,
that's not cool, but I can also see people,
like, that's just how he fucking talks, okay?
That's how he talks, that's how he talks.
People can talk, however the fuck they want,
and I'm not gonna, and I'm gonna be able to sit there
and go, okay, well, this is how this person
is expressing themselves, this is how this person is expressed to themselves.
This is how they talk.
If it's not the way I would talk, who am I to go?
You have to talk the way I talk.
You know what I'm saying?
Or you don't have the right to speak
if you're not gonna use the terminology
that I agree with, right?
This is a creating a fucking world
where there only one voice is allowed to speak.
Instead of all voices are allowed to speak
and have a fucking conversation.
I hear you loud and clearly, Tate thing,
we sat down with Tate for five, six hours.
I think it's absolutely disgusting
that a lot of these digital social governments
have canceled him.
They do have terms of services.
That's a whole conversation,
where I think I got really disgusting
are the credit card processors and ubers and PayPal
and Airbnb and Discord.
Exactly, what the fuck is that?
What is that all about?
That's insane to me.
However, circling back to Kanye,
brands also have the ability,
these aren't, they can do whatever they want with their money.
Balenciaga, gap, Yeezy, with the Deedas.
They say, listen, we don't need this drama in our lives.
We're trying to run a business.
And if you want, like, the difference between Kanye
and Andrew Tate, his Andrew Tate came on the scene like,
boom, out of nowhere.
In six months, he went from obscurity, relative,
obscurity to relative obscurity
to like literally the most Google man in the planet.
Kanye, we've been watching this slow drip
for the better half of two decades, bro.
And it's getting worse and worse and worse.
Why are they start like that, though?
I like this, no, but hear me out.
Okay, for example, I'm thinking,
if I'm running Twitter, what am I doing with Kanye?
Let's just say I own Twitter and I'm gonna almost. What would I be doing? I'd probably be calling Kanye
So what he did is what I'd be doing. Hey, man, listen
Can't just say death contrary. I understand you can say some certain terminology. It's you can't I mean
Let's let's not lose the fact that the word death and Jews were right next to each other in bold letters
I told so like come on.
No, and I'm a Jewish person, but that's not good.
Obviously, let's substitute Jews for blacks, Asians, but Gays, women, death to whatever.
But brother, stop it.
Let me tell you this.
Yeah.
Here's a rapper saying that.
Let me tell you what my problem is.
When a member of the Turkish parliament says,
don't forget Armenians what we did to you.
We can make you disappear from the face of the planet.
This is history books.
And that's still online.
Don't give me this bullshit about those two words are used together.
Stay consistent.
Not you.
Stay consistent social media.
If this offends you,
if this offends you,
that ought to offend you as well.
They did remove Kanye though, but not the Turkish.
They did not remove the repart,
that guy's video still up on his Twitter.
Well, this is a common argument,
is like Ayatollah Kameniy could be on Twitter,
but you're gonna remove Trump.
You cannot be selected.
What's with the double standard, correct?
You cannot be selective in that area,
but this whole discussion here guys got started,
would one think, the discussion got started with one thing.
The discussion got started with that image that they use that produced emotions with you
knowing what it's going to do. And to me, we have to understand that there could be a possibility
that they're using us as pawns to get people to pin against each other. All I'm saying
to you, as folks, whatever you get from our podcast, we're starting to get people to pin against each other. All I'm saying to you is folks,
whatever you get from our podcast,
we're starting to get a lot of people
that get on this podcast that don't agree with me politically.
And some of you guys don't like Adam,
some of you guys like Adam,
some of you guys don't like my ideas,
some of you guys do like it.
Here's the point.
One thing I will tell you is,
left right center wherever you are,
do whatever you do, don't be naive.
It's very easy for people from your own side to fool you
and get the right emotions out of you
because you're vested emotionally
because that's the side that you're supporting.
All I'm saying to you is don't let the media do that to you.
They've divided America plenty
and they're starting to lose.
Their business model doesn't work.
People are going away from listening to the news
and they're going to podcasters.
They're going to podcas. They're going to podcast.
For a good reason.
Of course.
Because this is like, this is becoming the space where people actually just speak their
minds, have intelligent discussions.
There's not intelligent discussions on the media.
There's not open conversation.
That's what that's about.
This is an open conversation where, where, where where where where where anybody's opinion or voices allowed the the space to I mean
This is what a dialogue is the media is not dialogue. It's a singular singular opinion that's constantly being pumped and pumped and fucking pumped
That that has no room for anything outside of it.
Yeah, so again, so what they're threatened by is,
just yesterday, can you put up Twitter
if you can bring up Twitter?
Robert Reich, which, you know, for a lot of people,
if you know who Robert Reich is, he's a socialist
that economically is always bashing capitalist.
Constantly, if he gets a chance to do it
He does it so he posted something yesterday and I tweeted back
I responded I go go to go to replies and that that way it'll come up instead of the way you're going. Yeah, go to replies and
Go up go up. Let's see if he'll show it go up a one more. I don't know if it's gonna show you on the third one
There it is. That's one right there. Okay. Go up a little bit and zoom in perfect zoom in
Okay, so he first show his tweet at the bottom.
Robert Reich tweets saying,
in 1978 CEO pay has increased 1,460%.
Yes, you read that correctly.
So don't tell me that corporations can't afford
to pay workers higher wages and provide decent benefits.
So if the average person reads that,
stay on that real quick before he go to my zoom-in rule
close, because I don't want people to read what I said,
even a little bit more, go up a little bit,
go up a little bit, okay.
So if average person who reads that, they say what?
Wow, since 1978, CEOs pay has increased by 14 or 60%.
Yes, you read that,
so don't tell me that corporations can't afford
to pay workers, highways, and provide decent benefits.
What does that produce?
Anemonsity torts you, CEOs,
Anemonsity torts you, who else?
Capitalists.
The average person reads this, who do they hate?
They're disgusted by anybody that's a capitalist.
So then I pose a nice question back to him.
He never responds back to my questions.
I don't know why he doesn't like my questions.
Go up a little bit so I can read my question, Tyler,
if you could.
So here's my question, okay? I said, I'd like to get your thoughts on three additional stats.
Average MBA player salary since 1970, it has increased 94%. College tuition has increased 14,
100% since 1978. And last but not least, you make $100,000 an hour for keynote. That's more than
99.9% of CEOs in America. Should we be concerned? So then people are like, well, that's interesting.
I didn't know NBA players.
The average NBA player in 1978 was making 40 grand year.
You know what the average NBA player salary is today?
8.8 million bucks, really?
That's right.
That point eight is the average NBA player salary from 40 grand.
Are you happy for NBA players making 8.8?
I am. I think they're fine.
I don't sit there and judge them. I'm totally cool. I think LeBron, these are just 100 million
years, not 30 million years, or 40 million years. College tuition has increased 1400%.
Has our intelligence improved 1400%? Has the education improved that much better?
Our kids coming out of college right now just so much more brilliant than they came out in 1978?
I don't know. And he's getting paid $100,000
to do a keynote.
Isn't a socialist kind of shouldn't get paid $100,000?
Shouldn't a socialist take that $100,000
and give $1,000 to each attendee
who's in the room and divided amongst the attendees?
That's what the right socialist should do,
but guess what, Robert, right?
I think I'm happy that you're making $100,000 an hour.
I don't judge you.
I don't care.
It doesn't bother me.
But you're playing games and you're dividing and you're not telling the other side of
the story.
And some people are falling for it, but not anymore.
People are starting to think for themselves.
And this whole concept of thinking for yourself, it's starting to become popular and cool
again because people are comfortable questioning things today.
Something we stopped doing for a few years. So Adam going back to you, maybe we should continue
questioning things and seeing if we're right or for wrong. If it turns out that someone in the media
planted this or politicians planted this, I will gladly apologize and say,
you got me, I was duped. But if you look at across the media, New York Post, not liberal,
very right wing, their posting about this too, they're talking about this too. The Jerusalem post,
a conservative Israeli newspaper, also talking about this., I happen to think that this is a true story,
but if I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit.
I'm sorry, but here's my question for you.
So, am I supposed to sit there and believe
that what they're posting, they fully know
and vetted out to see the credibility of it,
or are you thinking that you don't think
that they have to post that story,
so they don't seem one side or either, they have to post it because they're also at risk if they don't.
They have to post story.
How confident are you that this was a planted story?
I am.
This was fake.
No, no, these weren't real Nazis.
I didn't say that.
What I'm saying to you is you cannot fully believe what they've done.
Their credibility the last six years is a shit.
If somebody came up to you,
you're talking about the median barrel.
If somebody came up, if you're a bank,
covering the story and the actual story
of different things.
No, no, if you're a bank, okay.
I have come to you and I've asked you
for $600,000 loan seven times.
In the last seven years, since 2015 2015 you've been given it to me
Seven times in a row of default that after three months
Would you give it to me again? Would you second guess me? I would definitely second guess
Okay, why are we not second guess in the media because that's all they've been doing for the last seven years since 2015
Since 2015 they've been playing and towing with us You want me to all of a sudden forgive and wake up
and say, oh, you guys are all right.
No, no, you would never divide us.
Oh my God, you would never do that.
Every media's responsibilities to unite.
That's what they want to do.
They want us to be friends, they want us to get along.
They want us to coexist.
They don't want that.
I hear you, I hear you, because you do make a valid point,
but at the same time, isn't this a form of nihilism?
Nothing's true.
I don't believe anything.
I have to say it, yes, everything.
No.
I'm just giving it the other side of the equation.
How can I believe anything?
Bro, you're talking to the guy.
My buddy said this, the newspaper said this.
You're talking to God.
Nothing is real.
You're talking to a guy that's a Christian
that's sat at church this Sunday
and my analytical mind went to a part of the Bible
that I'm, you know, like, I have a hard time with this,
I've heard that my brain's going there, but, and then at the end, I have to come back to faith.
But that's a different relationship with the man upstairs. I may be wrong that God doesn't exist.
I may be wrong that I bought into the system that's 2000 years old. And Jesus said a few different
words that people wrote about it and made them seem bigger than he was. I may end up being wrong.
But it's a risk I'm willing to take because that's faith with the man upstairs. That's a set of few different wars that people wrote about it and made him seem bigger than he was. I may end up being wrong, but it's a risk I'm willing to take because that's faith with
the man upstairs.
That's a different kind of risk I'm taking.
I have zero faith in media.
That's a very different story because the one here is a different relationship.
The one here has let me down one too many times for me to sit here and trust the media
that what they say is let me take you to the bank and all this stuff.
No, we need to get a little bit more,
what is the whole concept of questioning things?
What are you supposed to do?
What's wrong with questioning things?
What is wrong?
It's only cool with that.
We stand for it.
We should keep questioning until if they're right,
you're right, man.
Hey, that's a screw up.
You shouldn't have done that.
Like Russia.
Russia, this, Russia.
Republican started believing that maybe he was tied to Russia when they kept saying Russia
because they said it a million times.
And then the moment they realized this whole thing was a job by Hillary Clinton, everybody
went away from it and Hillary Clinton became the international woman, a year by Forbes.
We're supposed to now, and now she's got a podcast going on with Chelsea trying to rebrand
herself because she sees an opening to potentially having her dream become a reality of being a president.
Everybody's on the chump and blocks, right?
And everybody's just sitting on the sidelines and this may be my opportunity to be a president.
She's at the top of the list.
I'm not sitting here buying that these guys are now reporting.
Now, what he did say is a true tweet.
That's not fake.
That's what he tweeted. So that part, I will judge that because it's his
words that came out that we could read all the other stuff the division. I'm a sit there and say, okay, I'll read this. I'll read that. I'll read this.
Let's see what happens, but I'm not gonna sit there and sit 100% these guys are not playing games behind closed doors. Now I'm not playing that game.
Well, see what happens. Yeah, no, you do that. You're gonna be in trouble doing that because that means you're constantly controlled by people telling you the stories
That's not the dude the what is what is D.D. Me? What does do diligence mean?
Doing your homework. We need to do a little bit more of our homework
Yeah, but this is sort of I hear what you're saying
Yeah, and we're coming to the grim here
But the whole premise of what I try to do
is read CNN, read MSNBC, read Bloomberg,
but then read Fox, read Wall Street Journal,
read Reuters, and actually formulate opinion.
I think what you're saying is kind of
the whole concept of, if you watch the news,
if you don't watch the news, you're uninformed.
If you watch the news, if you don't watch the news, you're uninformed. If you watch the news, you're misinformed, right?
I mean, it isn't it kind of like,
that's why I don't watch the news at all, right?
I don't pay attention to, you know, like I said,
I'm not into politics, I don't watch the news.
I just go off of, I form my beliefs off of, you know,
what I see, right?
And I feel like that kind of is thinking for yourself, because if my beliefs off of, you know, what I see, right? And I feel like that kind
of is thinking for yourself. Because if you only think about, if you think that you think
for yourself, but all you go on is, you go off of this, what the news tells you, rather
than, you know, just what your own, you know, contemplation, reflection, you know, observation
of the world around you, if you're, if you're not doing that and all you're going off
of is what the news says, then,
I mean, are you thinking for yourself?
Or are you just thinking about what they're telling you?
But if you don't pay attention at all to the news,
and you just kind of observe everything that happens
as a third party observer,
and then based on your own contemplation of things,
reflect and form your own opinions,
that to me is thinking for yourself.
Yeah, I mean, look, they ask one time
who then self-voted for,
and what was his answer, none of your business,
who I voted for, right?
Because he's in Hollywood, he doesn't wanna tell you.
But what does none of your business really mean?
Okay, just think about it.
When somebody asks you in a Hollywood,
who did you vote for none of your business,
you know what none of your business means, right?
Okay.
And then he says,
what do you get your news from?
And he says, you know,
the whole misinformed and, you know,
uninformed when you're getting your intel.
A guy, you know, today,
it's so risky for everybody today
for us to see what to do with the information
that we're getting.
I think we should stay nimble.
I think we should stay loose.
I think we should study.
I think we should look at what's going on, what's being said. And then make a decision for yourself,
which side do you want to go with? But I'm not going to sit there and tell you better believe what
they're saying. Let me tell you what these guys are. We have way too much of people that whatever
Tucker Carlson says is a is a doctrine 100% and whatever Cooper, Matt, or Joe, whatever they say, it's 100% this.
No, man, listen, kind of go, you know, studied for your own, see what the other side is saying
as well and then make a decision.
But yeah, it's for me to see stuff like this and what they're doing.
This is a very weird time.
You're going to see a lot more of these stories the next 18 months because the The opportunity you got to realize the most powerful position is available for anybody to take you have to replace a Biden
Do you know what that means?
Think about if you're a Democrat
What are you thinking and you have aspirations of being a president?
Imagine if your name is Newsom. Imagine if your name is
Kamala Harris you don't think deep down as such. You want to be the first female African-American president You know think about it. You're a president period think about if your name is Kamala Harris. You don't think deep down inside she wants to be the first female African American
president. You know, think about your
president period. Think about if your name is Hillary
Clinton. Think about if your name is Mark Cuban.
Think about if you're name all these guys, they're sitting
there saying, man, what's the pinnacle? What's the job? What
are what are a couple titles that you get in life that
you're locked in history books? What is president is the
top of what's second to that? Actually, give me the top of the list? What's second to that?
Actually, give me a second to that.
Billionaire, what's second to that?
What's a list like, hey, you were, you know,
a billionaire, a superstar in sports, a super actor.
Like, I think those are some, what else would you put?
I mean, those are all great.
There's hundreds of them though.
There's only 45 president.
You're right.
What I'm saying is president is at the top.
Of course.
Everything else comes after that right okay cool
That position is kind of open you ain't replacing
Somebody like Reagan you ain't replacing a Bill Clinton. That's not easy to do those were you feel like billionaires
Like Mark Cuban or Elon Musk or any of these you know are even interested in being president
Cuz it's Cuban really I. Elon's born in South Africa.
It's always seemed to me that like billionaires of that statue, like, why the fuck
would I want to be president?
Well, Bloomberg ran last time.
What was the other guy that ran in the Democratic party?
I forgot his name.
John Huntsman ran once.
No, no, no, no.
Ram, do you ran?
He's not a billionaire.
This past year, the guy that threw a ton of money at the campaign, Democratic candidate.
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of Washington. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. I know you're talking about, but just
didn't have to say by the way, most of them don't. 2020. They don't. Most of them. No, most
of them don't. Well, what does that say? You know, I, it's, it's, it's because you think
it has anything to do with just the fact that like politics is such a dirty game
and that they know if that they run for president,
you know, they're just gonna, like, you know,
have a huge, just target on their back,
or their thumbs tie.
Some of them, some of them have stuff in the closet
that they don't wanna come out
because it's gonna hurt their kids.
Some of them don't want their kids to be affected
by the constant, you know,
the Trump went from a hero the day before he announced he's running to become the biggest villain in the history
of America for what he did.
You know, do I really want to do that to my last name?
You think Trump's being invited to the same party as he was being invited before he
ran out?
No.
You think Trump's hanging out with the same people that he knows.
You think people in Hollywood who took pictures with Trump in the 80s, 90s, 2000s?
What would happen today if major Hollywood stars got caught taking a picture with Trump and that circulated among social media?
What would happen if you know a Ryan Gosling got a picture next to Trump today?
What would happen if Ryan Gosling had a picture next to Bezos today?
Nobody would care if he had a picture next to Bezos. If he had a picture next to Bill Gates, okay, if you had a picture next to Warren Buffett, nothing. You got a picture next to Trump today.
Maybe a career ending type of a picture of Warren. Think about it. So, world, you know very well.
Yeah. So, most billionaires are sitting there, and I'll stay in my 40,000 square foot house.
I'll put the nice parties. I'll have good food and be left alone and enjoy myself, and you guys
go at it. I'll just do something from the left alone and enjoy myself and you guys go at it.
I'll just do something from the back end and fund this and fund that.
I don't want to get myself involved.
By the way, there's nothing wrong with that.
You've made it to billionaire status.
Live your life, baby.
No, there's nothing wrong with that.
But there are a lot today that see this as an opportunity and you're going to see people
making a run at it.
This is a very opportunistic season on who's going to make the next one for
being a president. Did your family ever have aspirations of stuff like that or no, that
running or anything like that? Not really. He just loves the game that he's playing.
That's his world. Yeah. It's just love his craft. And it's great. It's the love of the
game. And if you can do what you love, you're in a very unique community because that's the best life you can live.
Chad.
You're playing the game you love.
Last question for your bro. You're carving your own path in life. You're your own man.
It's clear, right? You have gratitude for your family. You're blessed. But you're also
your own man. What do you want to be known as? You're said you're 32. Looking down the road,
you know, you're 35, you're 40. Who will Chet Hanks be? I'm not so much interested in who I'll be,
but just who I am. You know, I don't feel that the goal is anything out in the distance. I feel
like it's just being fully who you are in the present, right?
I think that's the, that's just much more,
it's much more fulfilling because the work is,
you know, wherever you go there you are.
So, the goal is to just, you know,
the work is right here in front of you, you know,
and the reward.
It's not something way out in the distance.
Because ultimately I just have, it's really just all about trusting in source, trusting
in source in God.
Because if you have trust in source, then there's nothing to be apprehensive about.
There's nothing that's, there's not a carrot on a stick that's like constantly out of
your reach.
You know what I'm saying?
You already, everything is happening in the now.
You know?
I think what you're saying is like if you live in the past, you have depression.
If you live in the future of anxiety, but if you live in the moment, there you are.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, it's a great place to be.
Chad, tell us about your fitness.
You're working on a few different projects, and I know we have in the description and in
the chat, but if you don't mind sharing with the audience some of the stuff you're working
on right now.
Thanks for its self-mastery program.
It's, look, a lot of people reach out to me because they identify with my struggles.
I've been open with my struggles.
I'm sober today.
I struggle with substance abuse for a long time.
I damn near a red my life into the ground several times, right?
But what I've learned is that,
like I was saying earlier about dealing with the cards
that you've been given, right?
Is that you could be fucking up that hand
for your entire life, but then once a flip switches
and you realize the right way to play the cards
you've been dealt, you realize that you've had
these cards the whole time.
So my point with that is that I think there's like a thin line
between the people who might be the black sheep of their family.
The people that have been, maybe who have fucked up
because there's a thin line between that
and actually those qualities being an asset to you.
Because the people that, you know, might,
they've been the black sheep or that have fucked up
are the risk takers, right?
They're the truth tellers.
They're the people who aren't afraid to, you know,
venture out from the herd, right?
They're the sheep that's not afraid to venture out
from the herd, right?
And to me, there's a lot of value in that.
There's a lot of personal value in those type of individuals.
Because once that, those qualities are channeled correctly,
what used to make you your worst enemy
can now be your greatest asset.
And this is kind of, I just see as a matter of just
getting out of your own way, right?
It's not so much a distance that you have to travel to become something that you aren't already.
It's about clearing away all this shit that gets in the way of you being that
the best version of yourself in the present like I was speaking about being that highest version of yourself.
Like imagine if who you at one at some point I just had to say to myself, who would I be
if I dropped the drugs, if I dropped the booze
once and for all, if I fully became
like militantly disciplined, if I was extremely militant
on myself to wake up early, to work out every day,
to eat healthy, to hit my macros so that my training,
the exertion that I'm putting in my body through is actually going to get results, because
the nutrition is 90% of it, and that's what most people get fucked up on, because they'll
get motivated to go to the gym for a while and not be knowing what to eat, so they won't
get any results than they lose hope, right?
So, who would this person be if I made these things mandatory in my life?
Cold turkey from dropping everything, waking up early, working out, diet, then you start
to get into the deeper stuff.
Okay, now that I'm taking care of my body, now how do I take care of my mind?
The meditation, journaling, reflection, doing things of a healthy nature to deal with
all the chatter up here in our heads, right?
Our mental health, because I mean, it's at an all time, I feel like it's at an all-time
crisis, especially not just for everybody, but especially for young men, especially for
men, right?
And I think that's why, another reason why Andrew Tate
was so impactful because he had something
that was resonating with young men, right?
Because we do struggle with our mental health.
So what I like to say is that this is truly,
like the answer for all of our problems
lies within our own self mastery,
lies within the level of self mastery that we can create
within ourselves.
And what I believe, and what my program is all about,
is that mastery of the physical, mastery of our physical
state is what leads to mastery of our mental state.
Mastery of our mental state is what leads to mastery of our mental state. Mastery of our mental state is what leads the clearing up of all of our negative, you
know, thinking patterns, our depression, our anxiety, our fear, right?
The the incessant chatter, the negative self-talk, right?
Clearing up our mental, mastering our mental state is what leads
us to mastery of our spiritual life. And mastery of our spiritual life is simply defined as ultimate
trust in source, in source, right? So mastery of the physical leads to mastery of the mental,
mastery of the mental leads to mastery of the spiritual, mastery of the spiritual, just ultimate trust and source, free, free of all fear, right?
Fear, anxiety, depression, regret, just present, right?
Because like you said, depression is, is having,
is living in the past, anxiety is living, is living in the future.
The answer is therefore in the present.
So how can we make our present state as connected to source as it possibly can be?
Because if we're connected to source, then it's absolute peace.
There's no, it's a still pond.
There's not a ripple in the pond, right?
And I believe that the goal of self-mastery is to live our lives, is to try to, is to strive to live our lives in that state
as much as possible.
To in a flow state, to live our lives in,
is because when you get, when you start to meditate,
and you get in deep, it becomes, you know,
more habitual to meditate, you do reach,
have experiences where your mind is just completely still,
right?
There's, you just complete conscious being.
There's not even a ripple.
There's not, there's not a ripple in the water, okay?
It's just a still pond, right?
And then when you come at it,
and you can also reach those,
reach that state in during peak physical performance,
during exercise, when you're in a flow state,
where you're not thinking,
it's like, okay, Michael Jordan doing a layup,
he's not thinking about,
well, how am I gonna bet he's just flowing? Like, his mind is gone, it's like, okay, Michael Jordan doing a layup. He's not thinking about, well, how am I going to bet he's just flowing. He's like, his mind is gone.
He's just in it, right? He's flowing, right? So being, being in a flow state, and I believe,
you know, once we start to couple these things, the fitness, the meditation, the things of
a spiritual nature, we realize is that that flow state doesn't have to end when we come out of
our meditation.
It doesn't have to end after our workout.
It starts off like when we start working out, we'll feel really good.
And then after our workout, you know, then we go back to real life.
And we're caused and we're back in the stress, back in the fear, back in the anxiety.
We could have a really powerful meditation for 30 minutes.
Then we wake up out of our
meditation and then work right back into real life, the stress, the anxiety. I think the goal here,
the goal of self-mastery is to through these practices, which need to be exercised like a muscle,
not just with your literal muscles, but with your mental muscles of meditation and connecting to a higher source, right, is that what we're doing is we're exercising our entire
Being to be to live in that state so that every waking moment, right, not just when you're in a meditation or out of a meditation
Not just when you're in the middle of a workout or whether you're after a workout, but so our entire living
Experience can just be a long extended flow state, where
we're operating, we're moving through the world and operating within our own being free,
free, present and free, free from anxiety, free from fear, free from stress, free from
not being able to voice the fear of not being able to voice our opinions, right?
Just being authentically us, and I feel like
if everybody could do that, I feel like that quality,
that freedom is the ultimate high
that everybody is searching for, right?
That is the high that people are searching for,
when they do drugs, when they get drunk,
when they do anything, right?
They're searching for a feeling of being in an elevated state, right?
And what I'm saying is that the true high that we're all searching for is just that comfort,
that freedom, that comfort of being on our own skin, that connection to a higher source, that a calmness and a faith in source
that everything is unfolding exactly as it should,
that there's nothing to fear, right?
That there's nothing to be anxious about.
That if you're stressed out, okay,
you can be stressed out about the,
you know, because when you're an entrepreneur
and you're running your own business, of course,
there's gonna be shit that stresses you out every day
when you're building a business
and you're an entrepreneur and it's all on you, right?
But to not, to not, to not get it,
to not, to allow yourself to be stressed about whatever,
but to allow these emotions to just come and go
and wash over you, to not get attached to them,
to not, to not make these negative emotions your entire,
the essence of your entire being,
whatever you've gone through,
whether you're going through a breakup,
and you're making that relationship,
the entire defining thing of your entire existence,
whether you're an entrepreneur,
and your business is struggling,
making that the entire thing of your existence,
making your struggles with this substance, you know, your entire, the defining thing of your
existence, to just completely by being sober first and foremost, allowing yourself to just,
first and foremost, allowing yourself to just, to just without anything, without any foreign thing,
you know, coming to interrupt your connection
to the ultimate high, to just allow that ultimate high
to blossom, which is just living as our highest self.
And all of this is in the website, like this is the kind of a
commentary I'm going to get, I because I looked at your website
right now we put the link up there. Yeah, there's a lot of content of that there to get me mentally.
This is how it works. So I create a custom workout plan, a custom nutrition plan for each person.
There's we do Zoom calls once a week. So these kind of conversations are what I get into on the Zoom calls.
There's a standard package where the Zoom calls are in a group and there's an elite package
where the Zoom calls are one-on-one.
This is more like mentorship.
So in the one-on-one calls, we get really deep.
It's just me and another person I get to know a lot about my clients.
They get to know a lot about me and we work one-on-one directly to do a Zoom call once a week. If you're interested in joining, the best way to do it would
be to go to link is below. Go on the link in my biohanksfit.com, H-A-N-X-F-I-T. You can
join immediately by selecting one of those two packages on the standard membership This will automatically trigger me to get an alert that you've joined which is the quickest way to do it
Which I suggest what you do because then I'll get an alert immediately the second you join and I'll reach out to you immediately
If not and you want to ask me some questions beforehand
Then you can also go to my website enter in and send me a text message and a little text bubble down there.
If you write your message to me,
that will send me a text directly to my phone.
And then I can hit you back.
But I'm sure after this,
there's gonna be a lot of people reaching out to me
and I do this all myself.
So it might take me a while to get back to you.
So if you truly are ready to start,
I would suggest just joining automatically from one of those two packages
And then of course if you want to
extend to a larger package or
The elite program then then I can just pro-rate you for that. So yeah, just head to dot com
Sounds good. Well appreciate you for coming out. This was great. Really enjoyed having you on the perspective of
the life you've lived and what you're doing next. Very excited for you. And Tyler, are we doing podcast Thursday
or no? We got Thursday and we got Friday, right? Friday, I think, is the producer of
entourage. And then Thursday is, Doug Allen's going to be on Friday. Thursday is going to be
Whitney. Oh my God. That one's going to be hot. That one's going to be Epstein conversations, right? Which she wrote a book about that. Anyways, very much for having me. Oh, god, that one's gonna be hot. That one's gonna be Epstein conversations, right?
Which she wrote a book about that.
Anyways, it's been a blast having you on man. Really enjoyed it. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for being able to take the questions
I know some of this stuff is you know, you hear the questions repetitive and it's just sometimes gets annoying some of the stuff
We talk about was fresh for the audience and ourselves, but we really enjoyed having you on. Thank you
Have a good one everybody will do this again Thursday. Take care. Bye. Bye. Bye
but we really enjoyed having you on.
Thank you.
Have a good one, everybody.
We'll do this again Thursday.
Take care.
Bye-bye-bye.