PBD Podcast - Ryan Garcia Tells All | De La Hoya, Mayweather & Canelo, Announces Next Fight | PBD Podcast | Ep 359

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

Patrick Bet-David sits down one-on-one with boxer Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is an American professional boxer. He held the World Boxing Council (WBC) interim lightweight title in 2021. As of May 2023,... Garcia was ranked as the world's fourth-best active lightweight by The Ring magazine, seventh-best by BoxRec, eighth-best by the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, and the sixth-best active junior welterweight by ESPN. Follow Ryan on Instagram: https://bit.ly/42hbxzT Follow Ryan on X: https://bit.ly/3HDYP4A Connect one-on-one with the right expert to get the answers you need with Minnect: https://bit.ly/3MC9IXE Connect with Patrick Bet-David on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3OoiGIC Connect with Tom Ellsworth on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3UgJjmR Connect with Vincent Oshana on Minnect: https://bit.ly/47TFCXq Connect with Adam Sosnick on Minnect: https://bit.ly/42mnnc4 Purchase a “Future Looks Bright” Purple & Gold signature hat and t-shirt, and receive one additional “Future Looks Bright” hat for free (red, white, black & camo). Use promo code “pbdpodcast” at checkout: https://bit.ly/3Sgbrnf Get a free "Future Looks Bright" Hat & T-Shirt: Purchase two "Future Looks Bright" Hats and one "Future Looks Bright" T-Shirt & use the promo code "pbdpodcast2024" at checkout! Purchase Patrick's new book "Choose Your Enemies Wisely": https://bit.ly/41bTtGD Register to win a Valuetainment Boss Set (valued at over $350): https://bit.ly/41PrSLW Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: https://bit.ly/40oUafz Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/472R3Mz Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/47gKVA0 Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! SUBSCRIBE TO:  @VALUETAINMENT   @vtsoscast   @ValuetainmentComedy   @bizdocpodcast   @theunusualsuspectspodcast  Want to be clear on your next 5 business moves? https://bit.ly/3Qzrj3m Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:01:10 I love what you represent. I shot you a message, I think. While back, I said, man, you're everything that I love what people do with their platform, which is speak the truth and try to work issues out that people are so scared to try to work out, you know I believe in honest discussion and no hate towards anybody So what you do here is very amazing and I'm honored to be one of your guests
Starting point is 00:01:34 And you're actually one of the few people I actually reach out to be on your show It's always like they reach out to me but for me out of respect because of what you do and your strong role model, being inspiration even for myself and I'm just really, I'm excited to be here. What's great to have you on obviously from my end, I've spent weekends watching you. I get people to come together to watch you fight and you've entertained the world with your abilities and as a young guy, you know, when you and I first started talking and we had a gathering also
Starting point is 00:02:07 at the Manek party in Miami when we did that Soho house deal. I talked to you, I said, listen, as a young guy coming up, I mean, you've been doing this for a while. You've been boxing since you were seven, eight years old. And from there to get to the top, and then you got tens of millions of people following you. You got the limelight. You got all the attention
Starting point is 00:02:26 You got the money. You got the fame, you know, you just recently bought yourself a nice, you know, escalate You know armored fully rock and the R8 and nice Christmas. You got your family got your kids You got a lot of stuff going on. I got a lot on my plate. Yes, you do But also at the same time, you know for me I got a lot on my plate. Yes, you do. But also at the same time, you know, for me, everybody, when you're in a situation like this, Ryan, everybody can say, well, you know, he should do this
Starting point is 00:02:50 and he should do that and he should do this and you should do this and da da da da da. The hardest part about being successful that early, that quickly is forget about the art of fighting. That's one, you know, forget about learning your of fighting. That's one. You know, forget about learning your skill set. That's one. Then the other one is marketing. You're able to do that as well. There's plenty of videos of content creators that are coming in and wanting to see how fast you are and you know the stuff that you would do with the rope. I mean, it's
Starting point is 00:03:17 insane how those videos go viral. There's so many of them. 50, 100 million views, 20 million views, you're able to get that so you're marketable. And then at the same time, you know, it helps that you're a very handsome, good-looking guy. When I saw you at the party, I'm like, dude, you're a very marketable guy with that side. How do you do for you? And I know this is a random question to start off with. How do you handle being a celebrity as a young guy? How do you handle that?
Starting point is 00:03:45 Jesus Christ tell me more so As a father of Christ you died to yourself You're dying to yourself. I don't look at myself as The guy you know even though I know I'm confidently know who I am as a man and what God called me to do and you know How I pick out how I picked my do and you know how I pick how I pick my feet you know keep my feet down you know ten toes down how do I do that because I'm dying to my ego every day ego could kill a man you know pride it comes before the fall so do I move in authority because of Christ yes so when
Starting point is 00:04:22 I speak you're gonna listen no matter what. You can not not listen. But again, people choose to deny the truth and that's okay. That's what Jesus says. Those who have eyes, let them see and those who have ears, let them hear. My job is to plant the seed. If you don't want it, I dust my feet off and go to the next house. Somebody's going to feel it. So out of the day, that's how I stay humble.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I've been following God since I was a young boy. So, you know, I had dreams of me fighting in heaven. Like, all my whole life has been very prophetic. And that's keeping me humble. And I've tried my best every day to try to follow that. You know, again, not perfect. I raise my hand up right now. Not the perfect God.
Starting point is 00:05:03 But through Christ, He's going to perfect me and make me more holy every day because I'm following the truth. So every day, you know, it's all about just the quote in the Bible goes, a righteous man falls seven times, gets up eight. The number eight means new beginnings. So that's even prophetic in itself, that it ends up at eight, even that verse. So. You know, they say God speaks to us through people. Right? I mean, I read a quote by poet Haffes.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And Haffes said that God uses human beings as a flute, and he speaks through them. Right? And this was a poet written long ago in Persian. So who does God use to speak to you and whisper to you? Meaning, while I'm coming up, and I had success early on in my teens when I got out of the army, I fell.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Obviously not at the levels of the fame and the money that you've made, but I fell. And I fell hard and it was embarrassing. And everybody was looking at me, it was like, hey, what happened to you? You were supposed to be this successful business guy and millionaire, you're not. Now you're thinking about going back into the army,
Starting point is 00:06:11 you're trying to find a place to hide and all this stuff. And that's without any cameras, because nobody has a clue who I was. This is just among small friends. But in the world of boxing, there is constant feedback, criticism, hate, all that stuff that's coming to you. So who do you speak to that you trust?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Where you say, I think this person I can listen to and trust that they're giving me the right feedback. I have many people in my life, but I would say the one that popped in my mind is my pastor. His name is Pastor Elias Flores. And I call him up anytime and he always has sound advice. He's very Just technical I told him he's he's my because I have a coach named Derek James. He's very technical He's out there in Dallas with trains aerospace junior. I say you're you're like the spiritual Derek James Like everything you do is so so technical like boom
Starting point is 00:07:04 He could hit points that are super layered and he has a lot of experience so he's a person I go to. Of course my father, my father has a lot of great advice and he's very calm, very peaceful and speaks gently but it makes sense you know he's very strategic but he does it in just a balanced way. So those are kind of... And then my coach, Derek, everybody that's... If you want to give me advice, I just let... Look, I would say even a five-year-old little kid,
Starting point is 00:07:35 if they had something that they were making sense on, right? I'm going to listen to that. I could find inspiration at anything. I agree. I love that. Ryan, since what age have you been protected? Let me explain what I mean by that Sometimes when you are a young athlete you will you will have a lot of people that are around you because they know They're gonna make a lot of money and they know you're gonna be somebody right if you know what I'm saying like it's constantly like hey
Starting point is 00:07:59 Do this form do that form protect them here protect them here since what age have you been protected by guys? Do that form, protect them here, protect them here. Since what age have you been protected by guys who have been making sure for you to not make a mistake? I think my mom's been the one trying to protect me the most. At the end of the day, people are coming into my life to take what I have, not to get help me and protect me. Most of the time, when I was first coming up, now I have a solid team.
Starting point is 00:08:25 But when I was first coming up, now I have a solid team. But when I was first coming up, you had people that just see me as a dollar sign and thought they could use their words and mouth to try to lure me in to, you know, doing everything supposedly is gonna be for me, but really is for them and their benefit and you know I had to deal with that my mom was a shark though your mom was a shark okay like that's where I get my sharpness from mom and dad are still
Starting point is 00:08:52 together yes okay yes so my mom's a shark she's he she hunts everybody now run away you know I mean run away cuz she don't play. Where's she from? Where's her family from? She grew up in Los Angeles. She went to USC. She graduated from USC and you know she was just born and raised in LA pretty much. My dad educated somebody that went to school. Somebody that you know my dad Chicago went to musical school was a piano pianist and then he also designed little kids' clothing, dresses, and things like that. They were doing good for a time being, so I was about seven years. It was kinda like when I first started boxing,
Starting point is 00:09:35 that's when everything kinda just went south because of the O08 crash. And at that point, it was like, okay, now we gotta move to Victorville. Victorville is a very small town, you know, five kids, one bedroom, little casita and we're trying to figure it out. They're trying to, you know, make the right move. Oh wait, so you're nine, 10 years old? Yeah, yes, I'm around there.
Starting point is 00:10:00 So you're born in 88, right? You're in 98, 98. You're 98, but are you an August baby? August baby. August baby, okay, so I'm a Leo. I wouldn't be anything. I get lion. You like the lion. Yep. I agree And I'm very familiar with Victor Vidal on the way to Vegas. It's right by the freeway there That's what they all say about it. But no, it's a it's a city where You know, it's I don't just somewhat overlooked I guess because of your passing through
Starting point is 00:10:26 It's I don't just somewhat overlooked I guess because of your passing through mm-hmm, but no I had a very strong self-belief for myself since I was little and A lot of people knew that you know, they would tell me but I knew it and I knew I was headed somewhere But yeah, so my my dad decided to put all the money into me It was actually interesting story my dad My dad, I mean, my uncle goes, one of the kids in our family is gonna be, he's gonna be the golden child. Your uncle's saying that. Yeah, he said that before,
Starting point is 00:10:54 like long, long time ago. Got it, yeah. But he used to box and he made it to the Nationals, but then he got married and kind of like, threw him off the course of even trying to go pro. So he says to himself when he's over that, the national is he goes, somebody in our family is going to come back here and somebody's going to win. And somebody's going to take this to a whole nother level.
Starting point is 00:11:12 All the kids are born. But when he said, when he's seen me, he was like, that's the one. And then also my mom goes when I was born, all the Asian ladies came in our room and mom was like, why is all the Asian ladies coming by? Is there like, cause he's the lucky because number eight in, um, I guess in China is a very lucky number so my birthday is 8 8 98 so like oh this is a lucky day is luck period right right yeah I mean this is a great number but um and I'm not trying to do that to toot my own horn but it's more on the the sense of like I've had a lot of significant, I would say, would you say signs?
Starting point is 00:11:48 Okay, signs that point to like I'm destined for something that could be great. So you've been protected. So okay, your family loved, you know, uncle says this one's the one he's going to do something. The Asian ladies come in 888 8898 something's going to happen. My son born 1223 23 my mom born 4 4 64 You understand like numbers have like spiritual meanings. I'm a numbers guy. So you're speaking my language. So How many how many fist fights that you get into before you graduate at high school my fist fights My whole thing is I never socked nobody in the face when I struck when I was when I was in a street fight I would just slap them I never socked nobody in the face when I was in a street fight.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I would just slap them. So this big kid, first one, I think one of my first fights, and mind you, I'm always scared to fight in the street. I used to be terrified, like when I was a kid, I could fight in the ring, but on the street, I would curl up into a ball, because I'd be like, I don't know what this is. Like, it's not, you know, it's not coordinated.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I'm used to coordination and protocol and structure. There's no structure in the street fight. But anyways, you push me to that point, then something else happens. I tell you to run. Because then I'm coming in a whole different manner. Like they see it in my eyes. So anyways, this kid pushed me in basketball. It's like maybe over the fourth grade. Big kid, huge. But I told him, I was like, stop pushing me, man. Like it's not gonna, okay. Anyways, he threw a punch. I just hit him to the body, knocked him out. They got into a, but whatever. But I would never hit him in the face. So this other kid named Dibo Dibo out of Walden names Dibo
Starting point is 00:13:29 Dibo like crazy Dibo right now, but he wasn't like Dibos in that big Dibo He was just like an he boxed with my dad. I'm like, dude, you know what I could do. What are you doing? He throws my basketball down. He's mad about basketball. It's a basketball game. That's the thing Nobody knows when you play street ball. There's gonna be a fight. Yeah, I've got it in three fights and I'll share another one. So anyways, he got it really bad. So he threw my ball down the street and then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna let you do that. I grab his ball and I throw it across the fence. I said, you go get your ball. I'll go get my ball. He said nope we need it now I said D-boy you know what I could do he goes this is a street fight is different. I said okay, let's go
Starting point is 00:14:11 He tries to kick me. I'm like, but what do you do? I hit him so hard so many slaps on the D-boy stop your crying up. I don't want to hit you anymore. He keeps swinging I break the mic now Um, I hit him so hard. He had a well in my hand all over his face Like you could how would you at the Semin Hall disease? I'm 14 around 14 Okay, so now we're a little 14 you can really hurt you can feel hurting somebody at 14. I slapped him so bad Sorry Dbo. You're in this Dbo. I slapped his heart. I'm like, dang he goes back home crying I'm like, I feel bad. I always feel bad whenever I beat somebody up. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
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Starting point is 00:15:08 And then my friend I had a lot of things man my friend that he became my best friend He was like six to his professional boxer now his name is Lawrence King. We were in We're in PE I believe I didn't know him at this time, but he heard that I was a boxer. He said you box. He's like you don't box I said yes, I do box. He's a look at you. He's basically like you don't look like no boxer. Just shut up. You know box I said Come to my house. We could put some gloves on and then you're gonna find out that I'm a fighter anyways Nobody's ever there he is. Yeah. Hey, what's up lard? Nobody. he's part canelo. He's sparring everybody now anyways I
Starting point is 00:15:50 Hope Lawrence don't mind this but he was a troubled kid back then You know he was out there doing stupid stuff and I was the kind of kid around it But I was like this ain't it like let's not do this. This is not the move like that's not mess with that like Let's not do this. This is not the move like let's not mess with that Like let's just focus. I was that kid like I got you guys. I understand this life like I Want to I want to make some money too, but I don't want to make it that way, you know Anyway, so I told him I said come to my house Nobody really would come to my house when I would tell him that if they say they want to fight us to come to my house Come find out. We'll put some gloves on so you don't get hurt anyway he's the only one that
Starting point is 00:16:26 comes on a bike of course it's huge of course he wants to challenge this little I would at time maybe like five six five five at one nineteen you know does the does the high school know your fighter do they know you know I'm a fighter you never make a big noise about it but But are you a tough guy or are you hanging out with gangsters? I'm hanging out with all the girls. I look like the guy just like, yo, that's like, you know, I mean, I don't know if this is offensive, but like the gay friend, you know what I mean? Like just hanging out with all the girls.
Starting point is 00:16:55 At the end of the day, I was, I was just vibing with all them. I just was like feminine energy. I just, sometimes I need it, you know what I mean? So for you, you were good with the girls. Yo, that's crazy to say. I was great with the girls we mean early Yeah, of course because I just treat them like My main objective is not to just like if you come in with the sense of like I want to just fuck you They feel that energy. You know I mean she's my language you come in like that. Oh, I just want to fuck
Starting point is 00:17:21 Guess what she's gonna feel that and be like this dude's a weirdo At the end of the day, I just want to be authentic. I don't like bad energy so if the girl got bad energy, I'm outfit. I don't care how what you look like You look like something crazy your energy is horrible. Get away from me, please Anyways, I was good with ladies. So he probably thought it was weak or something. He comes to house. We fight for like two hours straight Mind you, I would have knocked him out if comes to house we fight for like two hours straight Mind you, I would have knocked him out if he was my side two hours straight two hours straight like your boxing gloves I'm just okay. Got it. It's two hours straight. He's bleeding. I'm bleeding. I'm like, bro Can we stop like he won't I said I'm not quitting. So he's like you cool. I was like we made an agreement I was like we're cool. Okay, and it was we end up taking a picture posting on Facebook
Starting point is 00:18:05 He has a little something in his mouth. I my mouth. I'm like, okay. We had a good fight Anyways, he comes back again, and I thought he was talented Although he was way bigger than me. I was like, no, he has something still though. All right Some guys really even to how big they are they can't fight you could fight he and me with some good shots but I also cracked him and Then I said come back again because I had a different this time. He comes back. He won't admit this I Could call him up right now. I should I called Floyd too right now. Anyways, what I'm saying is I hit him so hard to the body Because he was taking all my head shots. I was like, okay, I gotta go to this man's body now
Starting point is 00:18:40 Like this is my objective this next time around He went it didn't even last 30 minutes right it lasts way less than that he goes I cheato's I cheato's I cheato's you can't take body shots kid you better have been working on that core right now because the other opponents can be listening to this Lawrence I gotta go watch them fight though he just invited me but yeah that was a little story of those little fights here and there. So three fights. No more, there's more. Okay, got it, but no like, you're not the kid that grew up with gangs, guns, craziness.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Around me, yeah. You stayed away from me. Yes, 100. Okay, so you were more the guy who knew how to fight, but you're more at the gym, you're with the girls, that's you in high school. Is that a pretty good assessment? Or would you say you played some high school?
Starting point is 00:19:26 Ball did you play sports? I try to play basketball But my teachers would complain to my coach that I'm talking too much in class and he would never let me play I'm really good. He recruited me He I was playing when P and I was killing these good dudes Running point like I'm like like I'm running point like I do now, you know, and he was like man You play like this kid. Boom. He's giving me these accolades of some other kid that he won the state and he's like you remind him of it And I was like I Was like, okay, I want to play like let's do it anyways. He never gave me my shot
Starting point is 00:19:58 I would have killed it if I would have stepped on that court. I'm still good. I'm still good It's interesting. Okay. So so so then you come out you have your first fight. I'm still good. I'm still good. Interesting. Okay. So, so, so then you come out, you have your first fight. I want to say June of, I don't know what year it is, June of, you're defining to you want to June of 2016, June 19, 2016 at 17 years old, you turn pro. I meant pro because my, my, my family needed money. And they changed the age requirements to go to Olympics from I believe it was 17 to 19. So now I can't go to Olympics. I'm like, what am I here for? I just made the Olympic team.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I made the, I would say now it would be under 19 squad to be like the US travel team. I was like, what am I doing? I gotta go pro. You know, this is gonna be a waste of time for me. And my parents needed money. We all needed money. So I was like, let am I doing? I gotta go pro. You know, this is gonna be a waste of time for me. And my parents needed money. We all needed money. So I was like, let's just do it.
Starting point is 00:20:49 How much you got paid your first fight? Nothing. So nothing first fight, then Golden Boy comes in and signs you in November, couple months later. Yeah, cause I went and winning like four fights in Mexico. I had a manager and he gave me $50,000 bonus. So I would say I started off with $50,000. Okay, I mean, that's real money.
Starting point is 00:21:06 If you don't have money at first, we're getting started. I spent it within two months. Would you spend it on? Gucci, whatever I wanted. Okay, so, so you get the 50K. Shout out Gucci. You get a couple things.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I need a deal, I'll just get it. And then your golden boy was, what was your first time you met Oscar? Was that the first time you met him or you met him before turning pro? Oscar hit me up on Instagram. Oscar hit show up on, so he was prospecting through Instagram.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Respect to him for prospecting that way. So here's your show up on Instagram and then what happens? You, Oh man, this is awesome. Like this is cool. So here's your show up on Instagram and what happens you? Oh, man This is awesome. This is cool But I didn't really trip on it. I just thought like that's somebody I look up to I resonate with Oscar We you know, we have a lot of similar qualities, you know, his he's Mexican American. I'm Mexican American He was has a great left hook. I have a great left hook
Starting point is 00:22:02 and You know that really resonated with me. So I was like, okay, I can relate to him. Did you look up to him as a kid coming up at high school? Just like anybody, you're a fighter, you love people that bring that type of energy. I always love when you would get with your family and put out a fight on, and it was like an event. It was like a party.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And he would bring that that and so would Floyd So those were the two people I looked up to the most as in like I want to bring boxing that Whatever that is. That's what I want to do. So did I look up to him in a way? Yes Floyd also tried to sign me. So now I got two people that look up to me on the same time Yes, so how did Floyd reach out to you? One is Instagram, DM. I forgot, it was through some other people and then we were chilling for a little bit and then he told me to spar at his gym.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I sparred in front of him, but you know what, Floyd, me and Floyd, it was different because Floyd is more harder to impress. So I didn't like that vibe. I felt like he didn't believe in me. I was like, I don't like people that don't believe in me Like I'm okay I'll just go with these guys. That's where I made that decision to not sign with Floyd or top right
Starting point is 00:23:11 So when so when you got the call Or the DM from From Oscar. Yeah, how much longer did you sign with them? Like was it a quick thing quick thing? We're like, okay great. Let's make it work. No, it was like let's figure it out You know, let Roger do his work? No, it was like, let's figure it out, you know? Let Roger do his thing. Roger at the time was my manager. And I kind of just let him do his thing.
Starting point is 00:23:32 We signed, I was excited, and got to fight at the forum in my first fight, knocked the guy out. It started off good. It started off good. When'd you start making real money? When were you like, okay, now I'm getting a taste of real good money?
Starting point is 00:23:44 I think when I got, that got that deal from Jim Shark, you know, they had given me like a lot of money, you know, every month. I don't remember how much it was, at least 250,000. Per month. No, not per month, that's crazy. The one they gave you. Yeah, they gave me, yeah, but that would get paid every month.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Got it. And this is- I don't know if those are the exact numbers, I don't wanna say something else. You were a teen at this time, when they give you that money or you're like 17 okay 19 years old got it So when is the first time you made money off a fight? Actually wasn't off a fight. It was off a deal that I did with Oscar because if you remember I was gonna fight this guy named Avery Sparrow and
Starting point is 00:24:20 Of course this happens in my life this guy ends up going to jail the day of the way ins. Of course this happens to me. I'm like, this is unbelievable. Golden Boy tries to save the show. Cause everybody bought the tickets for me. So they try to save the show by throwing some dude name, Romero Duna on me on last minute.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I said, I didn't prepare for this guy. Why would I fight him right now? You crazy? Not doing that. Oh, and then they put out a story that I'm scared. Golden Boy, my own promotion company says I'm scared. They put on that fight. It only lasts about a minute, 30. And he goes, I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:25:01 But I'm like, I'm scared. What? This guy going to jail. Then you want to- Golden Boy put this guy out of you. Yeah, and I said, yeah, and I said, I'm not saving I'm like I'm scared what this guy going to jail then you want golden boy put Yeah, and I said yeah, and I said I'm not saving the show for nobody at that point. They knew I was different I Said I'm not fighting him you guys are crazy And then guess what I I work out one of the biggest deals that golden boy has done signing a prospect Then they had to pay me like eight million dollars in bonuses
Starting point is 00:25:25 and they threw me in you know first bonus was 1.5 million so that I forgot what I was maybe in my early 20s then boom I make our I'm already in them I'm in the millions so once I seen a million in my bank account I said that's crazy how dad I was like cool forgot about after like what it do to you what it do to you when you hit when you got the money? They didn't I don't know what it did to me All I know is I had it Because I don't value money like that. I give away money all the time. I just don't tell people I got on right stories about it I give money to random people if I feel God is telling me to if God tell me right now
Starting point is 00:26:00 And I felt in my spirit give Pat this your watch right now I'll take off my watch on this live podcast so you have my watch now and I love that I like I love that watch I watch this cool it's a nice looking watch and if you love it you're gonna have it but guess what at the end of the day that's how I move so I I was never scared of money so money came to me yeah money keeps coming to me but it's not my money it's really God God's money, so I don't care. This doesn't matter to me. At the end of the day, I like to look good. I love to look good.
Starting point is 00:26:29 And that's what I try to look the best I could possibly look. But it has nothing to do with other than me trying to be the best version of myself. Like I like to dress clean. Do you love boxing? I love boxing. You love boxing. I love boxing.
Starting point is 00:26:44 OK, so what's your vision with boxing? What do you want to do with boxing? I'm just gonna Just like David right when David in the Bible. He grew his popularity through his battles That's how he was before he was king. Mm-hmm. That's why Saul started hate on him I'm just growing my platform to boxing. That's it. Do you have a vision like meaning do you? Oh, I have a vision I have a big vision I what what's your vision specific with boxing? I'm just gonna be the best fighter in the world and then I'm a siren hour everybody and they won't even expect it That's my vision. I'm gonna beat the people that they don't I'm getting everything back in blood. I
Starting point is 00:27:22 Did this fight with Javante specifically for a reason. You know, it was more of a sacrifice to help save boxing because boxing was born. It was nobody was talking about it. It was losing to these gimmick fights that were making more noise than the real fights. I was like, I always knew that me and Gervante were gonna be a huge fight. Anyways, I'm in a horrible place before
Starting point is 00:27:49 after the like before the Javante I'm in a horrible place. Tell me what you mean by that. Spiritually just in my relationship and just all that I'm doing in my life like I'm going haywire but I can't pull out because they already they're gonna say the worst of me But I said okay, let me put my big boy big board boots on and let's get to it. I told myself Against everything everybody told me Don't do it. Don't take the rehydration cause all the things that he put on me, right? I don't want to get too much into it because everybody should know what went down But in case they don't I'll explain a little bit
Starting point is 00:28:25 anyways So Jervante and me I was looking for a fight I just had beat RVer for tuna and at that place out at that point I was in a good place and I was ready to fight him. I said let's run in October It was in July. I thought I'll be I said let's run in October They played with me they said we all told her then they no, we're gonna do December. I said, okay Let's do some or I'm ready You I can't be on a break too long cuz I like to move like I gotta I gotta be doing something
Starting point is 00:28:54 Anyways, they can't do December cuz his birthday. He likes to celebrate his birthday like what is the fuck? What? Okay, January comes. I said let's do it in January. He goes, well now I need a tune up. Oh, you fucking motherfucker. You need a tune up? Yeah, you should probably get a tune up too. Fuck you, I'm not doing nothing to risk this fight.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I'm gonna give the fans what I told them to do, that I was gonna do. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna bring authenticity back to the sport. You guys are playing fucking game. In business, nobody would do business with you if you act like this. But it happens a lot in boxing though, right?
Starting point is 00:29:30 It's to be common in boxing, yeah. Floyd was telling them all these things. Floyd's given this council to imitate. Who do you think is telling them to do the rehydration clauses and not putting all these stipulations on me? You can't do this, you can't do that. The ring needs to be this size. It's Davis Garcia.
Starting point is 00:29:51 It's not, but all these things were all by Floyd. Floyd is telling them what to do. How smart is Floyd? Floyd is wise. He's a wise man and very strategic. You've been spending a lot of time with Floyd lately, right? I mean, they saw you running with Floyd and all this stuff and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And I got to have some information about the whole thing. What's that? How did Givante know that my rear got separated while I was in the fight? How? Or before the fight? Who do you, how do you think they got the information? You gotta pay.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Who do you think told me that they paid? So I know how much money it takes to betray Ryan Garcia. I know a little glimpse. It probably could be less for some people. So someone on the outside leaked that your ribs. My ribs got separated because I was losing so much weight. And this dude that This dude does a video right the one that did this to me and goes Ryan. Are you okay?
Starting point is 00:30:51 Like it was a random ass video right now. You okay became like a meme almost like I'm sorry. I hurt your rib I caused you to lose your body. I was like, what is he talking about? Because he made it seem like he really did it like that and then I I've been beating his ass the whole training camp I'm cutting weight. I'm dying literally dying like I'm talking about like there's health issues to cut that much weight Like I'm dehydrated every day. It's getting bad and then I go spar and Within the first 30 seconds I take a routine body shot like a body shot I could take any day of the week, you know know I've gotten hit by way big huge punchers. I just barely boom. I move boom hits me in a spot boom It goes down. I said stop something happened to my rib. I can't breathe. I stopped sparring
Starting point is 00:31:38 Nothing crazy like he's beating my ass and then gets to my rib. No, it was just a routine shot Hey, it's sparring. I'm not gonna continue my rib is something's wrong to my rib. No, it was just a routine shot. Hey, it's sparring. I'm not gonna continue My rib is something's wrong with my rib. I go to the hospital. He's like your rib separated. Dr. Goes it went lower, you know and It'll go back up on its own, but you need a rest for three weeks. I don't have three weeks. I Running like this I'm running five miles like this every step holding my and at the time
Starting point is 00:32:06 nobody really seen it it was just like he got it he got it because they're thinking about the big chat not Ryan you should probably rethink this a little bit and maybe not fight so who leaked it to him the guy whoever was there's only three people in that and I'm not even give names because I don't want to get sued but there's only three people that were in I'm sorry four people that were in there are these four people that we would know I don't know I'm not gonna say nothing so so but Floyd or somebody on that side told you that they whispered to them that your ribs were separated. Yes, that's why Javante knew. Huh, I got Judas. I got Judas. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Somebody came and kissed me on the cheek and says, hey, that's the one right like yo, that's crazy. I said crazy move. How's your relationship with Oscar today? I mean, obviously we've seen it, but how's it way better? It is way better. Really? yeah, what happened what changed I? Said I don't do this. I don't do this Let's figure it out That's all it took. I don't do this whatever this chaos is and back up. I don't do that We're gonna come together. We're gonna figure this out. I said I love you I said regardless of all the media shit or legal things. I love you. Let's figure it out How recent is this?
Starting point is 00:33:32 So this is recent what you guys had the conversation got it, okay, and so now There's if you want to pull up the tweet. There's a tweet that came out This one right here where Oscar says pre runrun with Floyd, Ryan Watts, Haney, post-run with Floyd, Ryan Watts, Roley. Golden Boy has worked with Ryan Garcia since he turned pro. This is my problem with Oscar. Stop going to the media and bashing Floyd. There's no reason.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I've made him the biggest drumbox and we will make it with Roley into a huge event. We always have Floyd. If you want to give Ryan the secret to defense in the ring, that's great. Other than that, if you're still a promoter, like it says here, F off. So is this, did you guys address this together when you're talking with Oscar? No, he just did that because he was mad. At the end of the day, Floyd's influential. It's a normal conversation you have with people.
Starting point is 00:34:22 So why don't you try to go get about, you know, and then fight Haney for a bigger unification? So it makes more sense and you bring bigger, it's more at stake. I was like, I don't know, Floyd, like I give the people my word and Floyd said, well, things change, you know? And he gave me like a little, I'm not gonna,
Starting point is 00:34:40 I'm gonna just keep it short and simple. And I was like, all right, Floyd, like, I look up to foot a lot And I really do love him and That's why I went out of the limb to like defend him on online when I didn't really have to you know Because I generally know He has a big heart Floyd huge art authentic huge art
Starting point is 00:35:01 Does he like money? Yes but He also loves blessing people and. And he tries his best. So me and Floyd have gotten close and I really value that relationship. He actually just called me. He just FaceTimed me right now. I can FaceTiming him right now. My phone's not even on. I would have FaceTimed him on this pocket. Can we find me a charger? Let me get you charger here
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah, I'll FaceTime him right now We'll have Floyd Mayweather on this podcast real quick What's the biggest difference between the two what's the biggest difference between the two between him and the Oscar Since you're spending time with them like you know in the corner Oscar is getting to the point where he's being his true self, you know goofy crazy and whatever he wants to be and just kind of trying To be living in truth Floyd's always been living the truth. He's real as it comes. You know, that's the difference. I Would say
Starting point is 00:35:56 Strategically are they both strategic same levels? There's a different level of strategy. I Don't want to offend anybody. Got it. And when you, the reason why I ask the question is because you're sitting there, you're saying, you know, Floyd is giving counsel to Gervante on what the size of, you know, the rain should be and you know, these clauses you got to put in and hydration and all this other stuff, You know, in the business world, this is kinda like when you sell the business
Starting point is 00:36:28 and you get the right counsel, somebody will say, hey, be careful with the length of non-compete. Okay, and how long do you wanna keep your on as CEO? What's the amount of stocks you're taking? Are you taking stock or cash upfront? You take stock that company drops, you're not gonna make a lot of money. It's too risky.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Make sure you have a lot of cash upfront and you only leave a little bit. There's all these things that come. Is that the relationship, you're not gonna make a lot of money. It's too risky. Make sure you have a lot of cash up front and you only leave a little bit. There's all these things that come. Is that the relationship that you have with Oscar where Oscar is negotiating for you and telling you what things to be looking out for? Or is that kinda like the role Floyd is playing? It's more like Floyd.
Starting point is 00:36:57 That sounds like Floyd. Got it. Oscar's more of like a, he's strategic but in his own way you know I mean I can't really I'm not gonna go too deep in it because I like I told you it's just two different type of strategies one's like in your face and one of them's like moving in silence and just destroying destroying everything from and from the top so you gonna see well it works in shadows.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Floyd works in shadows. Yeah, he's from behind the scenes. Got it. More than you think. Got it. In this boxing game. Got it. And I'm hoping I'm not giving too much information. Recently Oscar said something about hey, Floyd can do whatever he wants to do, but you gotta be careful with poaching. What is the poaching? How is poaching treated and boxing? Like he's trying to act as my promoter but Floyd is not. It's called being friends with somebody. Like you could literally be friends with somebody. You know that, right? Like you could give me counsel about a fight and if I say, yo Patrick, David was like, yo, don't fight that
Starting point is 00:37:59 guy right now. Fight this guy. Like what do you do? That's called friends. But I would say like, okay, if I can be direct with you because for me me I look at you as a guy that I'm excited to see what you're gonna do next ten years like you're gonna entertain the world for ten years realistically and we we'd like to see you freaking kill it the day I die totally but I mean as specifically with this space right in in every phase of your life is a certain space you're trying to conquer, the current space you're in is boxing, right? So do you think for Oscar, like from your standpoint,
Starting point is 00:38:32 do you think a part of it is, if you were to make a list of who probably would be Oscar's biggest enemy? I don't know if there's a bigger enemy for Oscar than Floyd. It's so funny, they have a rivalry that goes decades Exactly, that's what I'm saying. So I mean, you know even the fight between the two of them and what it was like And how Oscar fought and you know, who's who and you know Oscar had a lot of potential I think Oscar just didn't reach his fullest potential. Why do you think?
Starting point is 00:39:02 He let all the bullshit get to him Why do you think he let all the bullshit get to him? I'm just it is bullshit all the fame all the money the girls all that is bullshit There's only one purpose and that's God Whatever God's will is no that's the truth. I don't even think there's no sigh Because at the end of the day if you don't fulfill the will of God, what are you doing? Think about it. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:39:29 You're living for yourself. That's why you end up messing up, because you're only living for yourself. So if you're out here doing all these crazy things, of course you're not gonna do what you were supposed to do. He could have been probably the biggest fighter of all time. The way he is, he almost did be Floyd, even though he bit all those clauses on Floyd
Starting point is 00:39:49 and that's where Floyd learned it from. Wow, so Floyd learned the clauses from Oscar. Yes, and then he took the torch and took it to a whole other level. Think about it. Watch the fight. Floyd had the biggest gloves on in the world. Well, go to a picture of them fighting.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Look at his gloves and look at Oscar's gloves I'm gonna show you how this game is You put the fight between two of them See if you can find look at them gloves, bro. He got heavyweight gloves on So he got he got Floyd to get heavyweight gloves. How can so he negotiated Floyd having bigger gloves than him? Yes. Yes. Yes. Is that proven is that like documented? Wait, hold up I'm asking for it if I could call him It was a great fight though, yeah Oscar almost got that. Yeah Oscar did almost get that
Starting point is 00:40:48 But Oscar did what Oscar do You cannot finish the job All his biggest fights he lost why because you cut corners That's why you couldn't get over the hill You only get over the hill when you do things that ever that magnify your chances. Preparation is key. He must have been cutting corners because he could have won all those fights.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Shamelessly. Tito Trinidad. He had a chance to win all those fights, but didn't. You need to ask that question. Why? Because you're out there making mistakes. How much? You need to ask that question, why? Cause you're out there making mistakes, you know? How much, so I called a few guys, I'm an LA kid, right? I grew up in LA and I grew up, my best friends from the-
Starting point is 00:41:38 And by the way, I wanna say, I love you Oscar. It's not about that, I'm just trying to tell the truth. But here's where I'm going with this. When I call my friends in LA, I mean, listen, we grew up watching Tito fighting Vargas and we would have the best carnazada watching the fights and Cinco de Mayo was like a legendary weekend. Everybody would be caught up in the box
Starting point is 00:41:58 and all that stuff, right? How much you think your, do you think you're following more Oscars footsteps you do you think you're following more Oscars footsteps do you think you're following more mayweathers lineage of decisions being made or canelo? What what do you think or do you think it's I'm falling Ryan Garcia's way and tell me that tell me I'm trying to be as truthful as I can and that's as authentic as I can and not trying to do the bullshit that Everybody's trying to do because I don't give a fuck about money I give a pup I care about my word. Excuse my language. So when I give my word, I do try my best to keep my word
Starting point is 00:42:32 So when I told the fans Rollies or Haney there was a poll on Twitter. Haney won Barely, but he won At the end of the day. That was my first instinct To give them what that what what what what they wanted and you could pull it up right here Check this out. Which one is this it's coming It's coming it's coming when did I share each of us elbow or those oh, so you look it When did I share Eater's elbow or those? Oh, see look it
Starting point is 00:43:13 Who should you fight first? I'll let the people decide in three days. So April 20th is a fight, right? So so obviously I take Ford's council in a way. Yeah, I mess up people bash me for it. Okay. I'll take the heat That falls out Roli uses my name, but I don't even like saying his name I'm gonna call him Roli. Oh Lee pulley Schmully. You know me. I don't like saying his name because He he's been using my name to build himself up since we were sparring back in 2016 You understand this man is famous for sparring me and 2016 you understand this man is famous for sparring me and Then continues to do it and then says we're gonna fight and I'm ready to beat his ass at this one Oh, let me just go get rid of this weirdo, right? Look at this weirdo
Starting point is 00:43:56 That's a weirdo Why are you doing this just put fucking shirt on? Great you have abs we all do well at least some of us hello Weirdo, okay. He's just a very obnoxious kid and other than day. I was ready to just end it right cuz I'm getting ready for a fight when I spar this guy, right? He's super big at this point. He way bigger than me I'll give it to him. He has punching power. I know this I know this
Starting point is 00:44:30 So the first time we spark I'm moving around the ring guys. Let's take his power away, but boom get mind you I'm still young. I'm still learning in my craft But anyways, and he's still in his craft. He started boxing like whatever it's a fight at the end of the day I know what I have to do I start moving around boom boom he's like he hits me up like you were running the whole time I said say less I'll see you tomorrow I go sparring I said I stand right there I beat his ass the whole time he caught me with a shot made it look really worse than it was I grab him boom boom boom we're fighting boom boom boom it's a sparring
Starting point is 00:45:03 match who cares anyways he makes a whole edit about it says I beat his, boom, boom, boom. We're fighting, boom, boom, boom. It's a sparring match who cares. Anyways, he makes a whole edit about it. Says I beat his ass, he sucks, boom, boom, boom. He gets famous off it. I start beefing with him. I'm like, you're a bitch, for real. This is when, this is how long ago. This is like, we were young. Can he pull it up?
Starting point is 00:45:18 We were young, just a bit of a raingrass, seeing Rowley spying. When is that? It might not be accurate though. Who wins old spying video. See, no, that's not, that's what they post. But at least he put old spying video. Where is it really at though?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Look for the oldest one. How many years is that Rob? This one right here is six years ago. Okay, is that the one yes, okay? Anyways, we all could we all could make a edit video of Making it look worse than it is right you go watch a little bit. It's fine Obviously look how young I look mm-hmm and look how small I'm getting ready for a fight So you're 19. How old is he? I like 21 maybe so you guys are two years apart. I don't know. He might be a little older than that
Starting point is 00:46:11 Okay, somebody check out what really is I'll do it Rob. You keep you keep playing it. I'll check it here. Yeah anyways It was a whatever sparm is like I was fucking cracking them and and then he started coming on late But this dude we know he don't have a chin. So if I would have caught him early, he would have been out early. You know, like I caught him many times early. He caught me later on. What's a sparmatch?
Starting point is 00:46:36 He has $14 gloves. Anyways, I don't want to explain myself because this is very, look at, I cracked him with that. I love to boom, blocking all his shots. Nothing's happening. He gets me later on., look at, I cracked him with that left, boom, blocking all his shots, nothing's happening. He gets me later on. And look at this, look at that. He's throwing me on the floor. This thing would never happen in a real fight.
Starting point is 00:46:54 And then he's been using this sparring footage for years. Who's in there right now? Like who are some names that are in there right now? I don't know who's in there at this point. I really don't. And where is this? Where is this? This is made with a gym. Okay, this is that's why. Look at that. Oh my gosh, I cracked him with that. And he tried to come back. Anyways, he look at this. He can't mess with me. He sucks, you know. And at the end of the day, he's a sparring champion.
Starting point is 00:47:19 He's four years old. That's enough. We don't gotta look at anymore. You're 19, he's 23. Yes. Okay. And I'm getting ready for fight. So I'm cutting weight. Got it. I'm low. He's enough. We don't gotta look at anymore. You're 19. He's 23. Yes, okay, and I'm getting ready for fight So I'm cutting weight. Got it. I'm low. He's high. I don't really care. I'm just saying let's run it He makes a big deal about it dude So annoying like okay, whatever so that he uses my name for fame Cut back to this time. I said let's fight we get on negotiations There's not things myself. I could also fight crew
Starting point is 00:47:45 I just want to keep my options open. Mm-hmm. All of a sudden I'm fighting. I was like, okay Let's talk to Cruz. Let's talk to Rollies. We even talk to Haney. Whatever whoever wants it Everyone took offense to that Going behind my back. No, I said it loudly in front of everybody. I kept it transparent. Yes I want to fight you Rollies. I could run up a Devon and I could run up a Cruz anyways he obviously took offense of that and then they all decided to use my name and then we were they tell me that the deal is gonna be done that's why I post the thing and then all of a sudden the next day he announces he's fighting crews
Starting point is 00:48:30 I'm like you motherfucker. So I just post that me at bowl. He's fighting good. Yeah. Yeah, so I Post because everybody gives me the go that this is really happening. Yeah Then I post it and then I again are seen as the liar and I'm like, hey, I see the tricks. I see the tricks. It's okay My mistake is I should have always kept my word If I told the people I'm fighting Jeff Haney. I should have not let nobody influence me otherwise Not neither Floyd I neither are nobody if I say something I need to keep to it. That's the lesson I learned So that would never happen again. So originally, you said even earlier, so Oscars like, hey, fight Roli first,
Starting point is 00:49:09 and from there let's go make a bigger fight with Haney, right? Roli's now 15 and one, and Haney is 31 and all. 15 and done. 15 and done, yeah. So I'm assuming Floyd's telling you, why do you need to even run Roli? Why don't you go directly to Devon? I'm assuming that's what Floyd's giving you,
Starting point is 00:49:23 or no, that's not the feedback he's given you no it's your decision you want to fight Devon yes got it okay and I'm not changing my mind no more so is that are you kind of whispering to us that that's kind of what's probably gonna be announced 420 420 that's gonna be a big fight Shusha yeah that's gonna be good no it, it's good. It's gonna you know, I know what you shouts We need Mike Tyson on this shit Snoop Dogg Mike me that would be have you done a Mike Tyson podcast before he's very I love Mike Mike Mike before my last fight
Starting point is 00:50:02 Visited me in my hotel room. He's I just want to hang out Okay, I'm in the area. I'm like, okay We hang out I'm sounding He want to leave the room. I love him. I got away in tomorrow Mike like I have to go to sleep we're talking for hours and hours and hours laughing I'm like Mike is this is pre-way in yes, and I'm dying I'm dying. I'm ready. Wait. That's me and I'm dying. I'm dying. I'm dying. I'm ready to wait.
Starting point is 00:50:25 That's me and Mike right there. I'm like, Mike, that was that day. Oh my god, you look skinny. Oh my god. Go zoom in on it. That doesn't even look healthy. Rob, zoom in a little bit on that. Go to the next picture.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Holy shit. What do you weigh in that picture? Like 144. Wow. I'm like, Mike, can you, I I had to be like Mike? I'm going to sleep and Mike was like, all right Anyways Nobody knows this but I'm gonna share it. I think one of Mike's team got me sick. So after that day, I'm sick Like I got COVID or something. I'm shivering. I'm like, oh my god How I'm gonna make weight I gotta start, oh my god. How am I going to make weight?
Starting point is 00:51:05 I got to start. I'm downing dayquil, water, crazy. It doesn't go away. I get enough to lose the weight. And then I'm like, how am I going to fight with this? This is crazy. I said, god, what do I do? I call my strength conditioning coach, Sip.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I said, Sip, what do I do? I'm sick. He goes, do you remember Michael Jordan's flu game I said I do remember that 103.9 he was like locking like that I said say less so I started looking up how to perform under the weather that was my google search how to perform under the weather it mentioned coffee you mentioned this and that I said okay what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna drink a bunch of water so I drove I drank like seven water bottles. So I'm pissing out everything Then I'm doing the day quill and every three hours. I'm boom boom boom then I'm training. So now I'm trying to sweat it out
Starting point is 00:51:53 So I'm sweating it out. I'm doing the day quill. I'm doing the water. I'm doing the coffee I'm doing everything I think I need to do and I don't do it until I start feeling good enough I get to a point where I'm like I'm good enough to fight The first round comes in I'm fighting this guy Dorte. I swear my a point where I'm like, I'm good enough to fight. The first round comes in, I'm fighting this guy, Duarte. I swear my throat felt like it was closing up. I was like, damn, whatever. I'm in it now. It's already here. There's no going back. So I just lock in God. Thank you for this train. And I'm knocking them out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:22 I think round eight, round eight round eight round eight It's your round out number eight new beginnings, baby. How's your relationship with Canelo? I Asked him to play golf. He didn't hit me back. I Don't know why so did you see Canelo on Breakfast Club? What do you thought somebody said well first damn on mucho so I miss you Hit me back second of all There's no good people It says in the Bible nobody's good
Starting point is 00:52:52 Only God so at the end of the day, it's only good heart of people and just guys that got messed up heart and that are lost That's it, you know, I Don't judge nobody because it says in the Bible If you judge you will also be judged by the measuring stick that you judge on so I keep my judging stick very small Unless I still see some really funny business, then I'm like no that ain't it but um I Don't want to get involved in their business, but at the end of the day I don't want to get involved in their business. But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:53:25 Saul did give me advice and says, don't do it. I'm like him, I'm loyal. You know, if we could work it out, we could work it out. I understand family fights. I've been through the worst family fights. You could think of it and the people are like, oh, you'll never forgive them. No, you can forgive them.
Starting point is 00:53:40 I don't believe in that. You know, a lot of people hold grudges. I don't believe in grudges. I just keep it moving. You know, a lot of people hold grudges. I don't believe in grudges. I just keep it moving. You know, something. So is it long term, if somebody is going to Las Vegas right now, okay, and they got another guy that can make a bet for million dollars saying, hey, five years from now,
Starting point is 00:53:57 Ryan's still going to be with Golden Boy Promotions. That a good bet. What did they say in court? I plead to fit. Something like that. Oh my God. This is getting crazy out here. Oh, man, by the way, is your relationship with Canelo your good? Was Canelo someone, of course.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Was Canelo good as a mentor to you? Was he like an older brother giving you feedback? Was that the kind of relationship you guys had? He was a man of very few words, but when he spoke, it made sense. Got it. He liked to be very reserved and he liked things run a certain way. Is he super serious? Most of the time. Super serious. Yeah it's annoying. Got it. And is he super serious because he is maniacal and obsessed about being the
Starting point is 00:54:57 best in his space? I don't know yeah he's like yeah and something like that. But for me I don't work like that. I like to have fun. I like family You know, I like good vibes, you know, it's time to be serious. It's time not to be serious You know, and I like to I brought the energy to the gym when I come in the gym Everybody's having a great time and we're all working hard. I'm like a brother. I'm brotherhood Brotherhood can't be like you think you're the shit. I think I'm the shit. I don't work that way. Are you coachable? Are you a guy that's cool? I'm only coachable to the people that make sense So I'm not gonna listen to somebody that don't make sense my coach Derek James makes sense. I respect him I humble myself. I don't
Starting point is 00:55:35 Usually I speak and then I think like I know something and I think this is the better move But with him I understand that he just he's very sharp and he makes sense and he's moving in authentic authenticity and truth so I'm gonna relate to that and I'm gonna say okay this guy is speaking the truth I have to listen to this because it says in the Bible seek wise counsel not seek dumb counsel there they're what you're gonna do you're gonna listen to dumb counsel the wise counsel because at the end date you seek wise council So if it's not wise, why would I listen to you?
Starting point is 00:56:10 If you never did what I was able to do why am I listening to you right now? So right here's a great coach though Derek James Derek James. He told you don't do the shoulder roll shoulder roll You're not may whether he didn't like that but at the end of the day me and it that's the one thing We laugh about because I show him the shoulder. Oh, he starts laughing. It's not bad But it's not great yet, but I'm half Floyd trained me on doing it. He told me he was gonna train How to do the shoulder have you have you sparred with Mayweather at all or no? No, we wanted to do it But that should be an interesting spot, but then also said that, um, that'd be crazy though. Anyways, Floyd told me, he's like, I'm gonna do, he's, I have, you have my word. I'm gonna teach you it more. And then I said, we're gonna do the video. And then the day he told me that my shoulder roll was good.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Floyd told you that. He's like, I don't see no problem with it. That's the people talking because they never seen a Mexican do the shoulder roll. You see a Mexican do is like, I don't even look right. I don't care. I'm doing it. So you think you gotta be a Mexican to do it?
Starting point is 00:57:14 You think you gotta be a shoulder roll, right? That's what it is. Yeah. But the shoulder roll is a beautiful thing. And Mayweather is so super good at it. And James Tony. That's James Tony, correct? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Yeah. Lights out. Shout out lights out. Ryan, any for you, any desire like in your mind, maybe I'll ask this question a different way. Basketball, do you follow basketball? I follow everything. OK, who's your favorite?
Starting point is 00:57:44 Steph Curry. Non-boxing athlete of all time. Oh of all time non-boxing Oh, man, that gotta be oh wait. He said non basketball. It's either between Christiana Ronaldo or Steph Curry or Tiger Woods, I got a lot actually Those three very interesting. We said Ronaldo Tiger and Steph Curry. Steph Curry. Okay, what do you like about those three? I love Tiger Woods's tenacity and his professionalism
Starting point is 00:58:12 and how he holds himself. I like that he took a big heat for what he did outside of his sport and then came back and won the Masters. I loved his relationship with his son and I love his focus and just like his his the way he carries himself within the cameras He just he just act like they're not there like I love it Ronaldo I love his dedication to his body and just being perfect You know your body is your temple and I feel like he represents that really well
Starting point is 00:58:42 Steph Curry because of his faith and because of his He was just he was the one he was small But then he made something out of himself because he you know he followed he reached himself to his fullest potential Because they counted him out because he was so small Also like Tom Brady even though Tom Brady you unfollowed me. Why did you unfollow me? That's messed up Tom Brady followed you and I'll follow. Yeah, I don't know why No, I think you know what I think it is? It's because we were gonna go to lunch.
Starting point is 00:59:08 He invited me to lunch and somehow I just couldn't make it. I kind of blew it off in there and then he was just. That makes sense for him to unfollow. Yeah, it makes sense. I'm sorry. Hey, and we can we, look it, I'm sorry. Let's rekindle it. You hang out.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Oh man. So okay, go back to that. So I got a very direct question for you. I wouldn't have fallen on nobody for that though. Oh man, so okay go back to that so I Got a I got a very direct question for you I wouldn't have on nobody for that though you wouldn't have on father Because I understand life life happens. It's Tom Brady, bro. That's true. I'm Brady. So you're to me That's true. Yeah, to me. I got to respect that. Yeah I think one of the things I learned a long time ago. But I was younger though. I was younger then.
Starting point is 00:59:46 So great. Then by the way, he's gonna see this and he's gonna be like, okay, cool. I wouldn't be surprised if he get to follow in the next week when he sees this. Because that's. Hey, Patrick, my home follows me. We love each other. Patrick, my home. She excited about those guys.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I love those guys. I'm hanging out with Patrick and Kelsey for a minute. I love them. There's such a good energy Patrick's mom is cool Randy. She's dope. She believes in God. We always have conversations about God. I think me Funny, I thought I think I talked to Randy Mahomes more than I do Patrick. Really? Yeah. Yeah, we're always talking about God She's cool. She's real. There's something about Patrick I like a lot. If anybody's gonna beat Tom Brady's record, it's Patrick Mahoney.
Starting point is 01:00:32 There's no other guy. Psycho competitor. I like, but listen, I'm a Tom guy. I'm a die hard Tom guy. I think Tom's a... Tom got that tenacity too. So question I wanna bring back to you. So you said Tiger, you said Steph, you said Ronaldo.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Okay, so here's a question for you. And I always, I messaged Ronaldo too all the time. I tell him, bro, how do you get your body like that? That's crazy. Have you seen the interview when they're asking about his son? How about has someone said you ever seen that clip? So there's a clip, Rob, if you can find this clip, Ronaldo asked about his son.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Okay, so can you find Ronaldo asked about his son? And you have to see what he says. Just put Ronaldo asked about his son. Just put Ronaldo asked about his son. Look what I asked him. I said, Happy Easter to you and your family. I said, would I tell, Hey, Ronaldo, if you don't buy, can you tell me your diet regimen? That's not the one there's a clip where he's's asking about it. They're asking about his son. I'll find a clip. I'll send it to you. But I want to stay here with you. Okay. Here's a question I want to ask you. So for me, I had a vision and my vision was 20 years and there were two guys in the industry I respected a lot. I admire a lot, both of their pictures are on my vision board,
Starting point is 01:01:46 where I said, I want to be able to do what these guys did, except I want to do it at a younger age, and it was a number. I wanted to be able to build an insurance company to a point and get a number that to me was a real number after 20 years. I wanted to sell for a quarter of a billion dollars, and I wanted to get that check. So 20 years, I was obsessed.
Starting point is 01:02:08 The level of focus that just doesn't make any sense. I'm doing 100 a week. I'm running six months on the road, traveling left and right. I'm married, I got four kids now, and I'm creating content, I'm doing this, I'm building an insurance company. We got 50,000 agents nationwide.
Starting point is 01:02:23 All this stuff is going on at the same time, right? And my biggest fear was the following. And I wanna see, within the space, because whatever I touch that I'm gonna run, I wanna compete with the best of the best. I don't wanna be one of them. I like to compete for the top spot. And if I don't get it, I'm okay with that.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Not that I'm okay with that. I'm okay with it if I give everything I got but God forbid I don't it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna mess with me, so I don't want to go through it so for you Do you think you're giving everything you got to the game? Yes, but the Lord's will be done not mine But I give everything I'm a monster. Do you think you're given everything? Yeah, everything right? And here's what I mean by that why no, why tell me because nobody could do what I do Seven in the morning. I wake up. I could wake up earlier I've ran with Floyd at three in the morning, but I'll tell you my regiment. I wake up around in training camp. Yeah 725
Starting point is 01:03:15 Am of course and I shadow box for 15 rounds now So 15 rounds straight a shadow box before I have anything in my system. I don't drink water and do anything I do that and then I do band work Obviously I start off with band work first to tow my muscle up and then I do Meditations and then I go into Then I go into a shadow boxing 15 rounds and then I do my abs circuit, which is nuts You know, it's crazy, you know, and then after that boom shower Boo-boo-boom, then I get a little bit beet juice again
Starting point is 01:03:45 Whatever food I need boo boo boom then at 12 o'clock I head to the gym I go from the gym from 12 to 130 to 230 is around that range then after that I rest up I go on a probably an hour walk of just meditations non-stop. I show you all my notes a non-stop So I just let wisdom flow through me about the day and how I'm feeling and what I've learned about it So this is a glimpse of my notes. These are daily notes You know, so I go into meditations. I start off with Marcus Aurelius meditations, and I just let him talk I don't even really listen to him Because you know, it's not always them comes from God. So that's what I say to myself
Starting point is 01:04:22 Anyways, he starts talking boom boom boom then my train of thought starts going and then I let God lead me to whatever I need to You know listen to read and then I just start writing Now stop then I come back I play a little bit ping pong with my coach but boom I kill him Sips gonna get mad because you don't think he beat me Anyways, then after that I go to strength conditioning around I believe seven o'clock around that time from seven to like 930 because me and sit train hard So we go boom then after that I go run five miles with a sauna suit on then I come back eat and I go to sleep And do it again the next day what what what go I mean if you could do that brother you got it
Starting point is 01:05:02 Well, but but here's here's what I would tell you. I would say a couple things for you to consider, because you're in your world, and you gotta do what you gotta do. I don't know your world. But what goat, what goat do you talk to that you're allowed to kick your ass? Not within God Boxing Space, any goat.
Starting point is 01:05:24 I'm telling you, like, you don't want to hear. What you don't want to hear. For example, I'll let my coach, Derek James, tell me what I don't want to hear. No, that's not what I'm talking about, because Derek James is not a goat. Okay. And I don't know Derek James, to be honest with you, and I'm not saying anything negative. I don't know the guy, but if he was a goat, I'd know he's a goat. So he's not in the goat mountain. What I mean by goat is the follow. I'm talking greatest of all time. So, you know, guy, but if he was a goat, I'd know he's a goat. So he's not in the goat mountain. What I mean by goat is the follow. I'm talking greatest of all time. So, you know, guy right now text me.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I know who this guy is. I'm not even going to define who this guy is because the market is going to know who I'm talking about. He is a guy that's within my space that wants to do something that I've done. And I think he's capable of doing it, very capable of doing it, okay? And maybe even bigger.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I believe he's capable of doing it. But I know if he's full of shit, I know it. So he can't lie to me. You can sit in front of me and give me your lip service all you want. You know how I know that? I've done that as well. And I remember when I did it
Starting point is 01:06:24 and a guy that was a goat in my space put me in my place Hmm, and I sat there. I'm like, oh shit How do you know all my bad habits and what I'm doing and what my temptations are what my fears are all this other stuff you know One of my favorite posters I had a Pictures out of my presentation folder was a picture of Roger Federer and Tiger walking. This was an, oh wait, years ago. This was when he was killing everybody.
Starting point is 01:06:50 This is pre-D-accident. This is pre-all the girls coming out, all that stuff, right? And I learned, even, I don't know if you've seen the Tiger documentary, the two-part documentary, if you've never seen it, highly recommend you watch it. There's a part in the documentary where Michael says, Tiger was safe around me because I understand Tiger. He said, Tiger would come to me and around me,
Starting point is 01:07:14 he could be anybody he wants and it's between me and Tiger. Nobody else knows. Why though? Because those are goats hanging out together. Tiger, you take away what he did with girls and all the distractions, he had with the porn stars, whatever it was. Tyco would have annihilated Nicholas. It's not even close. Right. It's they're not
Starting point is 01:07:31 even in the same league. Respect to person that came before you, Nicholas. You gotta give it a 100%. You gotta give that. But at the same time, his trajectory, what this guy was doing, I got the chills all over my body just thinking about it. Well then it's that I got the answer for you, but let me finish the question. I won't hear your thoughts I want to know Which goat you allow to privately kick your ass Floyd Okay, he could tell me I don't I don't really speak. He's a goat I don't really speak when Floyd's talking and I speak a lot. I'm a big talker. I don't speak when Floyd's talking
Starting point is 01:08:05 Got it. I just he tells me a bunch of things I'm like I just shut up and he Floyd guitar does he call you out though. Oh, yeah Yeah, he's called me out on like straight up. You're full of you know, you're full of it here You're not doing this year. Is he like that or what's how's he give is he very gentle giving you the feedback or so? It's like what did you just say be? Be wise as a serpent gentle as a dove he comes out of gentle Okay, he doesn't come at it like and that works for you because I don't do that And God doesn't do that to me. Where's it unless it's bad bad, right unless I'm really messing up
Starting point is 01:08:45 So I can I could I could hear for its voice and I could respect it. And I really do, I don't really talk when he's speaking. He even says it like no one is speaking or no one not to speak. Like that's facts. So I really respect Floyd more than a lot of people. And maybe, I don't even know if you can say this, maybe you could. What is one
Starting point is 01:09:08 Feedback he gave you where he you know like Has there been the conversation to say Ryan do you realize you can be one the greatest ever lace them up? Like do you realize that and then to go and say here's the three things that you're doing that's getting in your way Has that conversation taken place with Floyd or not yet? Okay, but did he call me caneloelo and Gervonta Davis, the three faces of boxing? Yes. That's not what I'm talking about, though. It's not what I'm talking about. So you're talking about a more in depth, real raw conversation. I'm talking about. So I mean, so I talked to a lot
Starting point is 01:09:40 of people that call me and we have conversations that no one knows about. It's just us and them. Right? Kobe, when the other day we're driving to Dylan's soccer game and I'm playing the speech that Shaq gave at Kobe's funeral at the Staples Center. And then I play him, Michael's. And Michael says, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:03 the most annoying thing about Kobe, he was like the younger brother that was the past. He would come and take you close, he would do this, he would do that. He said, I'd get text at three o'clock in the morning. He says, one time Kobe asked me a question, he said, say, Michael, you know, I'm trying to teach my daughter footwork and I said, okay, how old is she? 12 years old. Kobe says, what were you doing to improve your footwork
Starting point is 01:10:25 at 12 years old? Michael says, at 12 years old, I was playing baseball, right? But Michael said, the level of obsession Kobe had for the game of basketball, Michael, Kobe helped me get better, right? Kobe helped me get better. So there's certain people that know exactly what it takes to be the greatest of all time
Starting point is 01:10:47 that can talk to you in a way nobody else can talk to you. But it's direct challenging and calling out, right? And I understand the gentle side, but I think, you know, Tom Brady, for instance, you know, when Tom and I were talking and having a conversation about what it is on how you drive your guys, right? There's different ways to drive somebody that's just happy to be in the NFL
Starting point is 01:11:10 Okay, there's certain guys who drive that's just man. He just wants to go party have a good time girls all this stuff And then there's a few the guys you drive that's kind of like now man this Muff this this guy wants to be the guy like he wants to walk in the room and everybody stops because you walked into the room It's a different kind of respect that person gets How close are you to other goats where they talk to you that way because to me so outside of me well yeah The difference between Michael and Kobe Michael The difference between Michael and Kobe, Michael was just the goat and never gave anybody the gems.
Starting point is 01:11:51 He never gave anybody the key, right? And instead of the last dance, he gave a little bit of gems with the last dance, but he wasn't really transparent and direct on how he was the goat. What was his mindset? We don't really know. We just seen that he was he was that guy Kobe he told you every step of the way how he did it. I woke up at this time. I did this I did that he broke it down for you He directly broke it down for you. That's why I respected I cried when Kobe died. I Cried my eyes up when when Michael Jackson died and when Kobe died. I was young when Michael died I was like eight years old, but I cried remember that and I cried when Kobe died There's a little two people that actually cried Celebrity wise yeah, and I looked up a couple actually if you asked me that question again
Starting point is 01:12:38 I looked up a Kobe heavy Always wanted you ever read mamba mentality. I didn't but I but I've seen so much things that that Kobe Has said can you text Mario or Sam and see if I got a mamba mentality? Just grab a copy even if it's mine. I want to give it to him Can you make sure you do that? Just see we got if not have somebody go pick it up and bring it here So I want to give it to him at dinner if you can do that, right? I Watch this documentary. Huh amazing. I bought cobs. So let's go back to Michael on what you said with
Starting point is 01:13:06 Michael, right? Here's my read on Michael. I've never met Michael. I've spent a lot of time with Kobe, but I've never met Michael. And with Michael, you know, Michael's a pre social media era, right? So that's a different era. Number two, Michael and Kobe, Michael's posting up on Kobe and Kobe is saying, hey, when you're doing a turnaround, what's the weight, you know, on the leg when you're feeling the guy behind you, what do you do? And Michael's giving him feedback. But do you know what was the level of obsession that Michael respected about Kobe? Nobody was curious
Starting point is 01:13:41 about information and wanted to learn more than Kobe. It's almost annoying Kobe Bryant's personality is almost annoying because it's kind of like do can you like relax? Relax bro, like let it go. Who can enjoy yourself for Saints are not and I'm not gonna let it go I'm I'm my number is 24 one more than 23, right? I'm Kobe, right? I'm 24 you're 23 I'm 24. I love that his number was 8 to the version I was holding for a reason then then he changes it when you colorado all this stuff then he becomes black Mamba You guys think I'm this guy you want to paint me as a bad guy? No problem. I'll be exactly what you want me to be I'll be a
Starting point is 01:14:16 Kill everybody right and he came for every once throat look at how many reviews this books got 28,260 you know I, I think, you know, when I watch you and I spend time with you, I'm in the business of body language. I'm in the business of mobsters, I've sat with gangsters, I've sat with politicians, I've sat with billionaires, I've sat with athletes, I've sat with goats, I've sat with criminals, I've sat with a lot of different people, okay? And, you know, maybe because in the last 25 years I've recruited, I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of people to the insurance industry
Starting point is 01:14:54 and I've licensed 50,000 of them, so I've done a lot of this, this is my specialty. One-on-one, in a room just talking to the person and purely trying to find the best tool to pull out of this person, to somehow get him to see out of this person to somehow get him to see something maybe then and see before right when I when I watch you and you know I see see a few things I call my LA guys and I say guys so help me
Starting point is 01:15:18 understand you know because I'm not in the boxing space but I'm in the fan space I'm a fan right and I watch you fight I'm a in the boxing space, but I'm in the fan space. I'm a fan, right? And I watch you fight. I'm a fan. This guy's freaking exciting. You know, it's fun to watch what's gonna happen with this, dude, this is like, could this guy and Davis and Canelo,
Starting point is 01:15:36 some of these guys bring that excitement back to boxing. I'm having dinner last week with Dana and we're talking about what happened to boxing. He knew many years ago boxing was gonna lose it because of whatever. And like, look what Dana did to freaking UFC, right? And watch what's going on with boxing now and all this stuff. So boxing needs some guys like you, right? But if I may be direct with you, Ryan, you can always be direct. I don't know if you've,
Starting point is 01:16:00 you can fully disagree and tell me, Pat, I don't agree with you at all. I don't know if you have fully committed to mamba mentality, Brady mentality, messy mentality, Mayweather mentality. I don't know if you're fully committed to that yet. So it prompts me to think a couple reasons why. Let's go through the why, right? Okay, so one would be, through the wide, right? Okay, so one would be,
Starting point is 01:16:26 you are a very, very good looking guy, okay? And the way you see that with girls, right? It's like, oh my God, Ryan Garcia's coming to the bone. Oh my God, they're losing their minds, right? Okay, guess what? If you ain't good looking, you are never gonna know what that's gonna feel like. So let's set that part aside.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Anybody can criticize it, you can't do that. But you know who knows a lot about that? Michael. Michael was very good looking. So was Kobe. So was Tom Brady. Good looking guy, he dated all the models and all this stuff and all these things that goes with it.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Okay, so that can't be used as an excuse. Next, the next thing is, who's in your ear? I've worked with certain guys, where one of the guys I worked with, where it was a trend. He could never trust anybody, ever. He couldn't trust anybody. And first, like, you know, for example, like some of the guys I called, they're like, Pat,
Starting point is 01:17:19 you know, he's training with Canelo, it doesn't work. He goes with Goose and doesn't work. Now it's Derek James, not gonna, so, hey, he was first with this and now it's, you know, Golden Boy and maybe it's gonna be Mayweather, this, this, this, this, this, that, it doesn't work. He goes with Goose and doesn't work. Now it's their chance. So, hey, he was first with this and now it's, you know, golden boy and maybe it's gonna be made whether this, this, this, this, this, that, it doesn't work. And why this and why that? Maybe there's an ego issue with this. No problem. Great. That's what LA folks may say. You're an LA guy. I'm an LA guy. Fine. People can have their opinions when they're saying that. Great. So girls, maybe somebody is in your ear,
Starting point is 01:17:45 like I have two people in Dallas one time. Every time we would have issues in a company, when I went to these two guys, no matter who it was, they always defended me, and they even increased my temper about whoever I was asking them about. For example, imagine I'm like, Ryan, you won't believe what Rob did today, and da da da da, you won't believe what Rob did today.
Starting point is 01:18:05 You would say, what did Rob say? You know what I would do for you? You got a fire, Rob, and pop, pop, pop. Then eventually I'm like, dude, you know what? I'm not coming to talk to you. So I sat two of these guys down one time. They know, because we had this conversation last week. And I said, hey, moving forward,
Starting point is 01:18:22 you guys have to be equalized by these other two people that I want to bring in. When I breathe these two guys and these two people in and I would say, So what do you guys think about what Rob did? These guys would say, What? I can't believe what Rob did. We got a fireman. Papa, these guys would say, Yeah, Rob, respectfully, I disagree with you because I think we have to understand what's going on there. I disagree with you because I think we have to understand what's going on there. And here's what I think happened with Rob and papa papa papa and I'm in the middle. I'm like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Never thought about this. And then the other guy would say, yeah, and I don't know if I agree with him, but I would give, I definitely don't agree with you guys that say this about Rob because I think let's not forget what happened to Rob three years ago. And ta-da-da-da-da. So it's either girls, it's either lack of coachability,
Starting point is 01:19:11 it's either somebody's in your ear that's causing you to always run, or last but not least, it's the fear of success. Because the fear of success is a real thing. The fear of success, like you know, you know you can compete with everybody at the Islam. You know that. Nobody needs to tell you that. I don't think you need any of that. I think you know that yourself. But you know, am I, am I willing to get freaking
Starting point is 01:19:38 maniacally obsessed like a Kobe, like a Michael, like a Brady, like a Like a Kobe like a Michael like a Brady like a messy like a Canelo like a Mayweather like these guys I don't know at the end of the day. Yeah, you'll never know because I would I ask what I ask everybody Yeah, find out if you hang out with me for a week straight. Yep Then you'll know Respectfully, you'll never know because Because you're not in my circle. You're asking me. Yes, you'll never. And I'm not saying, and I'm not saying.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I totally understand what you're saying. I'm not trying to defend you. No, no, not at all. I fully understand what you're saying. At the end of the day, you don't know the extent I go to training. You don't know how much I train. You don't know how much I do.
Starting point is 01:20:19 All you can see is from outside perspective. And that's how everybody could see me. But at the end of the day I know for a fact I Truly believe this nobody in boxing works harder than me and I know oh he's so he's everywhere because they don't know I could train at any time. I don't really I don't sleep That three and a clock morning morning run with Floyd that was my idea Floyd let's go Let's hit this run. Oh Wow, we know what Floyd told me on the run and I promise you this God is my witness he looks at me and I and he almost sounds like he's crying I never see my act like I don't you only hear his voice get
Starting point is 01:20:58 like this very few times he goes I respect you just like that. I respect you like with like a like like when you know when Tyson is holy Yeah, I respect and I was like why Floyd and I'm getting the chills all over my body because nobody's doing what you're doing Nobody me Floyd calls me all the time. I'm running all the time every time Floyd calls me. I'm running Floyd's like I'm so proud of you. I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. I'm proud. I just know it If you just spend some time with me, you're gonna say this kid is different You're gonna say he is different and you're gonna say I have no worries on whoever you fight You're gonna say that just spend a week with me. That's all I say. Let's go hang out. Let's do what we do You're gonna see some and I'm not here to prove myself to nobody at the end of the day
Starting point is 01:21:45 No, bro. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. Give me give me five months Yeah, so when I make over a hundred million Dollars this year. Yeah, and I go beat these guys. Yeah, then we come back and we talk again, right? That's all we have to do. I'd love to yeah, that's all we have to do Yeah, cuz I know what I'm projected to make. I know how much money I'm gonna make I know I have my whole business. I have everything in order. At the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:22:08 I already have things in place where I'm good. Now all I can do is focus on boxing and focus on every move I have to make. You know, I've gotta be here, I've gotta be here, but I know I have everything in place. I have everything in order at this current bar. Now, granted, have sometimes I've been like lots wife and looking
Starting point is 01:22:25 back and then I end up being salty because, oh, should I bring this person back on? Or should I bring that person? Should I listen to that person? And then when I do listen, then I'm back in the same position. Have I done that before? Yes. Have I made the same mistake repetitive times? Yes. But do I have a different outlook on how I need to move forward now? Yes. Because at the end of the day, sometimes it takes, for me, I'm stubborn. Sometimes I need to fall down multiple times. I need to scratch my knee a couple of times. Ah, that hurt. Maybe I just didn't do it right last time. And then I hurt my knee again. Okay. Ah, dang, that really did hurt. I'm done doing that. I'm done doing that. I'm done doing that. I got it. I got it. I got it. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done Ah, really did. I'm done doing that. I'm done doing that.
Starting point is 01:23:05 I got it. I got you. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:23:13 I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:23:21 I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm like I was like dude. I can't believe that guy makes 100 times I'll never forget it was one of our relatives. We were in Granada Hills and they said this lady is a professor She makes $50 an hour. Hmm. This is 1990 30 1994 I was like, what does she make? And you have no idea how different I looked at this lady
Starting point is 01:23:43 We were in a granada. He at this lady's house, Rosa. And I said, yeah, she makes $50 an hour. Damn, holy shit, couldn't believe it, right? And then we went to a house, a my uncle's house, who lived next to Snoop, and it was a first million dollar home. I'm like, oh my God, this is a freaking tennis court, basketball court, 72 underscore feet, cul-de-sac,
Starting point is 01:24:06 freaking birds, massive 30 foot nest, damn, Jacuzzi in a living bedroom, office in the house, wow. 1993, 1994, crazy, never seen a million dollar home, right? And they make a hundred grand a year, in the industry, and you're like, oh, come on, all right, I'm making a hundred grand. Let me tell you what's going on and you're gonna say you make how much a millionaire damn it's also a little guy
Starting point is 01:24:29 hey I'll make 2.8 million something oh that guy made 10 10.8 oh shit I'm a little guy so you may 50 million dollars on what's up that guy makes 120 damn little guy don't have a 250 million dollars you ain't have a billion us hey what's up guys hey how you doing you doing? You feel like you always let this one thing on the competitive side, right? Now listen, I'm not telling you to turn them into God, but what I'm saying is, as a competitor, you always gotta strive to get to the next
Starting point is 01:24:55 whatever may be for you, right? Okay, so I think for you, a guy that's a celebrity, you're famous, you're young, you're a rising're young you're rising star 25 freakin years old If if I'm writing a plan with you and I'm looking at you as my younger brother, okay? And I would sit there and do business plan with you. I would say do it right here's what I would if I were you Go have dinner with Michael ask Go have dinner with messy. You know where messy lives right next door to my house tonight When we have dinner, I'll show his house. He's right next door. Go knock on
Starting point is 01:25:26 his door. He's probably gonna be open. If tonight we go to his door, you're at the door. He's probably gonna have a conversation with you, right? If we go to Messi. Go to Federer. Right. Make a list of goat mountain. Go to all the privately. That's a good idea. Don't tell anybody. That's a good idea. It's your project for you. No one needs to know. Don't post a picture about it. Don't publicize it's your project for you no one needs to know don't post a picture about it don't publicize it and then two years later when you get paid a court of a billion dollars and then tell everybody let me take us what I did last two years here's what I did and ask them can I ask
Starting point is 01:25:56 you a question Tommy what's that can I ask you a question message what's that tell me what I want to know what it takes to be on the goat mountain what's the difference in mentality? You know how you're taking notes while you're walking and you're reading one of the most important books in the world, Meditations? Insane. Yeah, Marcus, really. Yeah, so you're gonna, it's gonna stick with you.
Starting point is 01:26:14 You're gonna be like, damn, you know, damn. And the main question is the following. What is the difference with being one of the best of all time versus what is the difference between being a goat and I watch what they tell you and then when they tell you and you're by yourself in the car and there's nobody else there it's the most important thing you're on a flight you're in an Uber you're in a car you're with the limo guys driving you you got music playing you're walking in the morning you're walking at your 130 when you go for your one hour walk they do
Starting point is 01:26:40 and you say Ryan what do you want to do we wanna go with this? What's next for you? What are we doing? What are we doing, bro? Because you know who's the only person that's been in your life for every second of your life? God and you. Only person. No one else.
Starting point is 01:26:53 The journey is with the man upstairs and the journey is with you. Only you know your fears, your inner security. We're never gonna know it. You know it. I know my inner fears and insecurities. I know my- I like sharing it.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I told you, yeah, me too, because in a way people need to see that you're human, you're not untouchable. But I think you're at a very pivotal phase of your life. Because you got a 10 to a 13 year run where you can really, you know, really do some damage. 10 to a 13 year, and by the way,
Starting point is 01:27:27 with Mayweather saying to you, you know, when I look at you, I see this, this, this and that, you know, he needs to say that, meaning he's a businessman. He knows what he's doing. He ain't dumb either. Mayweather's a very, very wise guy. Of course. Mayweather to me, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:43 if you've ever read the book, 33 Strategies of war or 40 laws of power, Mayweather is a very, very brilliant guy. By the way, I've got this book ordered for you. I'll give it to you tonight when we get to the house. The Mamba one. The Mamba one. Yeah. Mayweather is a very, the 33 strategies of war. You don't need to read this. Just read the, listen to the audiobook, bro. Just, that's the one oh bro like you're gonna listen to this and for sure 40 laws of power by Robert Green one I love the 33 number yeah I like that yeah I mean when you go through some of this stuff yeah you know
Starting point is 01:28:15 like like remember when Connor came back and he lost one of the fights this is pre the phase that he went through where now he's like a he's like a full-blown actor celebrity all this stuff He spent a lot of time with Tony Robbins, okay? very a lot of time with Tony Robbins and one of the fights when he came Tony was in his corner and One of the games one of the fights he lost he said I feel bad So why do you feel bad? He says, because all the thousands of hours coaches have spent with me, I've let him down. He says, I'm not worried about the money,
Starting point is 01:28:52 I'm already financially free, I'm already wealthy, all this stuff. I feel bad the fact that these guys really were there training and I was five minutes late. I would be a little bit casual with this. I was a little bit this. He says, I'm not happy about that. I lost this game. My coaches were there with this. I was a little bit this. Since I'm not happy about that, I lost this game.
Starting point is 01:29:05 My coaches were there for me. I messed it up. It was one of the most noble moments I ever saw with Connor. It was such a beautiful moment when I saw that. I really enjoyed Connor's company. Yeah, yeah. And again, going back with you, look, we've spent, we've talked a few times.
Starting point is 01:29:24 We've spent a few hours together, whether it was at that event or here or now having this conference. I'm really enjoying talking to you by the way. We're going through this, but I would be curious to know what you do next. I'm so curious, Ryan. I'm so curious to know what you do next because I think your upside could be monumental. I think your upside could be a way for you to make a lot of wealth. Be great father. Yes. Be great performer. Be great son of God. Yep. Represent boxing the right way. Represent your heritage the right way. Yep. Mexican community are
Starting point is 01:29:55 very, very proud people. Very 54% of our company is Hispanic, the insurance company. And they're very proud. We got them from Michoacán, Jalisco, Zacatecas, Guanajuato. we got him from Oaxaca, you name him, Durango, we got him from, you know, all over the place, right? There's a lot of pride there. A lot of pride there. You ever watch a movie, Count on Montecristo?
Starting point is 01:30:19 My dad has. He been trying to make me watch that. Be good for you, bro. Count on Montecristo. Yeah, be good for you. Be good for you. Be good for you. Anyway, so. I. Yeah, be good for you I get a be good for you. I'll be good for you. Anyway, so I love movies by the way You do and I love music. It's your favorite movie. My favorite movie is Lion King Lion King, yeah, but but my second favorite is inner stellar
Starting point is 01:30:37 And you got a section and then you got money ball and then you got money ball. I mean, that's great Why you like money? Well, it was just an interesting concept of numbers guys. I love going against. Yeah, you know what people's instincts are interesting Yeah, money ball was cool. Um What was that one movie? Um Slumdog millionaire. Yeah, great. Yeah It's a lot of great movies out there great movies out there. What was, why, there was one that was gonna say, what movie was that?
Starting point is 01:31:05 It's slipping my mind right now. There's another, oh Gladiator. There is Gladiator, it was amazing. Gladiator's top five for me. Who's your top five boxers of all time? Who would you put as your top five? You talking to impact, you talking to just straight sport? I mean, what do you talk about? If you were to say the greatest top five, You talking to Impact, you talking to us just straight sport?
Starting point is 01:31:25 I mean, what do you talk about? If you were to say the greatest top five, greatest boxers of all time, who would you put on that list? I would put... I think it's... For me personally, oh my gosh. It's like Sugar Ray Robinson, Floyd Mayweather, and Sugar Ray Leonard. Those are, and Roy Jones Jr. Those four, I could put them in yours.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Interesting list. Yes. Really? Yeah. Do you know who, uh, uh, It was Cold. You know the moment when I knocked this guy out with one punch, his name was Francisco Fonseca.
Starting point is 01:32:03 I looked that up real quick, and let's pull that video. So I knock him out cold with a left hook My friend pulls up a video of Sugarace Robinson. It's called the perfect left hook And then I said I'm gonna do that right now Moments before my fight. I'm praying the locker room. God saying he's gonna be knocked out coast our praying from I said, okay check this out This literally you cannot make this up And you can look at all my pose how long goes this how long this is right before COVID okay, right 2019 2020 oh it is 2020 got it barely 2020 February 14
Starting point is 01:32:42 It's literally three months before COVID, before it all went crazy. Rob, go back, I think it's that spike. So go back a little bit right there, yeah. Right here. Huh, bing. Oh, and a little panic, six, five, six, five, six, five, six, five, six, five,
Starting point is 01:33:01 six, five, six, five, six, five, six, five, six, five, Now check out Sugar Ray Robinson's left hook. Now you tell me which one is the more perfect left hook. I'm just saying. Sugar Ray Robinson. Perfect left hook. Now you tell me who's the better left hook. I gotta say me.
Starting point is 01:33:16 If I'm being real, I gotta say me. Which one is it? Is it one day you wanna play? No, no, no. Perfect punch. Is it a perfect punch? You're right there. Perfect punch. See, they say this was no perfect punch is the perfect punch right there perfect punch They say this was the perfect punch
Starting point is 01:33:32 Boom here's someone a body shot catches them between the punch damn I Think minds way better go back again. Let's see one more time Rob. You better start saying Ryan Garcia a perfect punch Wow, that's nice though. I give them it. But my guy didn't even move. My guy did not move. Wow. And I caught him. Now go to the slow-mo version of Ryan Garcia versus Fonseca. Now look at this. This is crazy. And during this time. Just go to it and just lower it to, yeah, let it get close to it. Let it get close to it before you do it. Even closer. It's in the one minute range. Let it go a little bit more, Rob, before we see what happens to it. Yeah, go, let it go. It's coming, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming.
Starting point is 01:34:14 And then I'm going to explain to you what I felt in that moment. And this is the truth. You got a turn before he gets it. It's about to come up. It's coming. It's going to work. I Already knew I had it so Javante knocked him out Right there up 25 now watch this you can turn off the audio so we can see it. Yeah, there you go
Starting point is 01:34:43 It goes to close-up boom Right when he threw Wow, that's perfect. I caught him in between a punch within a punch on top of it when I was fighting him. Yeah, I Was so full I was in such a flow zone mm-hmm at the moment I looked at him I Could see his chin. I Was consciously there and I said his chin is open It felt like I had all the time in the world He hit him with that shot
Starting point is 01:35:13 But if you watch it in fast motion happen like that But in my point of view I had all the time in the world to hit him It was like, you know when you key up the ball and you could just hit it If I'll just like that. How was it fighting you know, when you tee up the ball and you could just hit it and everyone? It felt just like that. How was it fighting Joronte Davis? What was he like? And for the first time ever, in the back room,
Starting point is 01:35:31 I said to myself, I'm losing this fight. Oh, you said, you knew? I knew right in the back room. I said, nothing's going right. I'm so weak. None of my punches are coming off sharp. I'm gonna lose this fight. I just said, how I'm gonna lose this fight.
Starting point is 01:35:44 This is gonna be crazy. Who'd you say that to just my stuff got it? Okay, alright trust you guys so I'll tell you story about this so Justin Bieber and bad bunny are supposed to walk me out both of them fall out God why why are they what is going on? God says because I want you to walk out with me And only me what do you mean by that? Why are they what is going on? God says because I want you to walk out with me and Only me. What do you mean by that? I open up a tick dog comes out the song oceans. I said I know exactly okay. I'm coming out to that song
Starting point is 01:36:15 I made that decision within the fight week. I Wasn't something I pre-plant. I said, okay, God, I hear you I Tell them to play with part and all that. But when I break it down, I hit the numbers, blah, blah, blah. They got it all on set. And I say to myself, God, I trust you. That's what songs about trust you without borders, you know, take me to deep waters and I'm going to trust you. I knew I was going to lose, but it's okay.
Starting point is 01:36:39 I'm going to trust you. I'm going to give it my all right now. So the moment I caught him in the second round, I tried to knock him out. I said, I'm so weak. I got right now. So the moment I caught him in the second round, I tried to knock him out. I said, I'm so weak, I gotta try to end it early. I never seen a person have the most saddest face I ever seen in my life. When I looked at Javante, he looked like he's so sad.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Like he had genuine fear in his mind that something's gonna bad gonna happen to him. If you go to the beginning of that second round, I cracked him and then he was like, he literally stopped and looked at me and goes, grabs me and I'm trying to kill him. Cause I'm like, I have no power, but I'm gonna just use whatever I have right now.
Starting point is 01:37:15 He recovers and drops me. I'm thinking he's gonna come after me. I said, let's go. He starts moving the same way he was. He told me, if I ever drop you like Luke Campbell dropped you, I'm gonna go get your ass. That's okay He dropped me what happened. I got right back up and I said let's go He started retreating. How do you retreat when you just drop somebody that's already weakened. I'm already weakened
Starting point is 01:37:37 Why don't you just come and destroy me? You already dropped me because he knew what I was really about You already dropped me because he knew what I was really about It's okay at the end of the day. I told everybody I'm gonna do this this and that I'm gonna get everything back in blood I will never let nobody play with me like that in negotiations ever again That would never happen ever I'm gonna be this guy this guy this guy. I'm gonna get so big that Jovante has to fight me and We're gonna do it on the right and fair terms.
Starting point is 01:38:07 This is how fair I am. Although I'm gonna be bigger to them, which I am, I'm gonna be a fair, honest man in the new negotiations and we're gonna do it right and I'm gonna beat them and then we're gonna solidify that and it's gonna be all good. That's what it's gonna have, mark. That's what's gonna have mark my words And we're gonna do it the right way in the right terms and fair do it him Yeah, even though he did me dirty and they did all these tricks
Starting point is 01:38:33 I'm gonna do everything fair and from not a rehydration clause next go around. I'm not gonna make them go crazy up in weight What we could do that 140 147 whatever he wants and then we're gonna do it fair no Rehydration clause you don't have to do this. You don't do that. We do drug testing. We do all that But you're never gonna play me again fool me once shame on me fool me twice shame on you fool me three times Fuck the peace sign. I'ma let the chopper rain on you. I'm coming back for everything. I'm coming back in blood I'm coming back for everything. I'm coming back in blood Every when Jesus comes back. He's coming back with blood on his robe from the enemy. So I'm coming back like that So now you know how I'm coming back. I'm not fucking around. I'm really like that
Starting point is 01:39:21 They're gonna fuck around and find out. You know the meme little old man's like fuck around find out. That's me right now Fuck around and find out I Listen, I think I'd love to see that fight On the right and guess who love to see bring up the Conor McGregor Ryan Garcia Little thing in the back room look what Connor says to me go to my history. You go to missing right there. It's right there First one look what he says just listen to what he's saying. Yeah, I remember this. Look at the buddy.
Starting point is 01:39:50 He's wanna know on you. You said the two biggest names in the division. I wanna see it again. I wanna see it again now. And I wanna see it for nobody. I'm gonna see it again. I'm gonna see it again. I'm gonna see it again.
Starting point is 01:40:00 I'm gonna see it again. I'm gonna see it again. I'm gonna see it again. But you don't cry for two. You're the peck of the leader. Mate, all the respect in the world, you'll get a future. The future is damn. I Little people know A little bit after now a little bit after kind of a long time after this mean now me and Connor business partners in the company
Starting point is 01:40:25 It's called monkey tail shout out monkey tail monkey. It's gonna love that. I said that. Yeah. What's it about? It's online gaming site. Me and him are partners. He is a good man. I don't know if there's many promoters better than him in the world. Facts. I don't know if there's many guys better than him in the world when it comes down to people. Very few. Right. I don't even know if I can, if I can think of one, who would you, maybe Mayweather. No, you're looking at yourself. Just wait, just wait. Confidence.
Starting point is 01:40:50 No, no. Okay. It's the truth. Listen, but it's, It's the truth. You're declaring your intentions and I love it. Bring it on. I love it.
Starting point is 01:40:59 That's the thing we can bring the company up here. You want a side wager? I get my, I get my percentage of, if you give your percentage of it. I love it. Whatever you want my percentage of if you give your Love and then if you fuck around and start fighting We do boxing match though. So what's the story with you doing jiu-jitsu? You just started December 2022. Were you just having fun with it or they invited me to a video? So I just try one the graces right was it rent or who was it one of the graces?
Starting point is 01:41:21 Yeah, it's one of the family members, but um, yeah, that was cool thing is I'm a natural wrestler I'm not so much jiu-jitsu. I Could no body control. I know I know like Like I know where you should go with your body. Yeah at the right time. It's called feel I gotta get a feel I gotta get sense If I do MMA, I'm gonna surprise everybody. I Didn't really like this though. I don't like a man on top of me like that. I'm not even kidding, okay.
Starting point is 01:41:47 A little uncomfortable. Hey, hey, hey. I'm like, yo, this jujitsu is crazy. Hey, I love everybody though, you know that. Yeah, no, the jujitsu was crazy. Ryan, favorite, top five favorite Mexican fighters of all time, boxers of all time. Mexican?
Starting point is 01:42:02 Yeah, specifically Mexican. Damn. Because you know who Roy Jones says is the greatest Mexican boxer of all time, boxers of all time. Mexican? Yeah, specifically Mexican. Damn. Because you know who Roy Jones says is the greatest Mexican boxer of all time. It's Saul Canelo Alvarez. Oh, I know, what happened? Who says that? No, no, you know what him and...
Starting point is 01:42:16 He's the best. Canelo's that best Mexican fighter of all time. I don't care what nobody says. You can't convince me otherwise. Canelo's the greatest Mexican boxer of all time the greatest Mexican fighter of all time Stop playing with him and he's in the conversation to be one of the best just fighters in general of all time Really your your yes, he needs to be he needs to be Benevitas to really solidify it, but
Starting point is 01:42:41 This dude's cold he and he's obsessed it but this dude's cold. And he's obsessed. Tom let's play golf though. I need to see you on that golf course. He looks like he knows what he's doing by the way. You know who Roy Jones and Mike Tyson said is the greatest Mexican boxer of all time? Who? Salvador Sanchez. What Salvador Mexican? Check that. Yeah. They said the greatest. You know what age he died at? Yeah he was young. He died in a car accident. He died 23 years old. Yeah. No, he was cold. Actually, I was going to say Salvador, but I didn't I didn't quite know if he was Mexican. Mexican. But okay, it's unfortunate that he died young, but you can't say he's the
Starting point is 01:43:17 best. He died too early. To see the full caravan. Yeah, that's like when Ricky Valenz died too early. You can't say he's the greatest, you know, artist of early. You can't say he's the greatest, you know artists evolved. You can't like it's unfortunate It's really sad, but at the end of the day you put Canelo at the top. I think can I was the best fighter? From Mexico of all time then it's who? Chavez then you go to Oscar Yeah, I guess Chavez Oscar And then me how come in you put forth I'm gonna be the number one. I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:43:46 I love you. I know you're gonna be mad at that. Let's play golf first. So once I beat you in golf, yeah, I'm gonna mess around and beat all your records. Oh, man, there's something there's something attractive about Canelo. There's something very, very, um, he's very noble. That's what is attractive him. He's a man. You know, he's the epitome of a man. You know what I mean? Like he holds himself like a man. Like he doesn't mess around like some people say misogynistic, but it's not really misogynistic. It's more like I'm a man and and you better calm the fuck down. Right? I'm the man. I'm that guy. When he walks, I'm that guy. Respect me. If you don't. Right, I'm the man, I'm that guy. When he walks, I'm that guy, respect me.
Starting point is 01:44:26 If you don't respect me, I'm out. He's eyes tell a million stories, look at those eyes. I just love the frickin' fire in those eyes, right? I do too, I like his personality, don't get me wrong. I just, I'm a different person. I'm like that when I have to be like that. He's like that all the time. That's like that. He's like that all the time That's a difference. He's like that all the time. Yeah, I'm only like that when if shit hits a fan You're going then run away. I tell people just run away. It's not worth it. Just go
Starting point is 01:44:56 So so here's what I got from the conversation today, right, which which I'm excited about the follow-up. Okay Number one you see I didn't put on my watch at all? Yeah, I saw that. Because I know if you want it. You see how I'm in touch with that watch. That watch, we could be on the same time. But by the way, what was the- Oh, Matt's good though. Shout out to Georgia Armani. Yes, of course. How was it like doing a commercial, Gator commercial with Damian Lillard? What was it like that out Georgia Armani? Yes, of course. How was it like doing a commercial gator commercial with Damien Lillard? What was awesome? That was awesome. Lillard's a beast man. Lillard had good chemistry Like he's one of the few people that I worked with that I actually like working with he seems like a stand-up guy stand-up solid guy And he loves boxing
Starting point is 01:45:39 Is he does he know what he's doing? I think I need to mention this. Can I mention something? Of course? If people hear me making little noises Under the mic is because I personally speak in tongues It's a gift from the Holy Spirit So when you hear me making a little noise, don't think I'm tripping is what I'm saying and don't feel uncomfortable Deon Sanders did that on reality TV Literally, they're like are I look that up the odd Sanders Type of speaking in tongues. This is hilarious. They're like climb this rocky goes I'm not at peace yet. Hold up wait, and he starts speaking in time. It's amazing beautiful. Good. This is hilarious
Starting point is 01:46:18 Is this it? Watch this look at this. Well, they call via ferrata. It's how early prospectors would access all of these high plateaus. OK, grab one of the cameras. Is this the end of it? Hold on. Yeah, look at this. Look at this. I can't even look down there, man.
Starting point is 01:46:35 This is crazy, man. I got to meet D'Arne. Bear wants me to cross hundreds and hundreds of feet up in the air on the side of a cliff. You gotta watch it. This is hilarious. Hang on. Do it.
Starting point is 01:46:51 I ain't no way in the world, man. Come on, D. You can do this. Guys, I'm not comfortable with this. It ain't gonna happen. I'm being honest with you. I know, I know, but the top is just here. I don't care where it is.
Starting point is 01:47:04 I'm not comfortable with that, man. But you know what? There's so many things in life that we're not comfortable with. But we have to do things we aren't comfortable with. No, not this, man. There are kids that are on there. It's always this rock. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Something happens to me. Let's check this out. I want to get my babies. I'm afraid of not being there for them more than I'm afraid to go across. Boy, in the name of Jesus He is shakita the bullakashita the bullakashita I began to pray in tongues
Starting point is 01:47:33 Man shakita the bullakashita See? So don't trip! We all do it! Whoever got it? It's a language between me and God What he knows Have you ever met Dion? No, but I know everybody around him. We were supposed to meet a couple of times,
Starting point is 01:47:48 but we just never got to it. Oh, I'm sure you'll be meeting Dion very soon. Dion, to me, I think Dion would actually be very good for you. Yes. I think Dion would be a very good mentor for you. Yes. Great conversations to have with him.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Okay, so here's a recap. This is what I took away from today's conversation learned a lot One I think April 20th is a big day. Okay, Devon Haney. It's gonna be a big fight can't wait for it I think it's gonna be sick. I'm looking forward to it. Now. I know it's not been announced yet I know in about three days it'll be announced whatever but Prophecy They say it's better that you prophesied and you speak in tongues I'm speaking in time April 24th. You know what they say in the Bible though? They say it's better that you prophesize than you speak in tongues.
Starting point is 01:48:30 I'm with it. Okay, so that's not prophesying. You say in three days. Number two. If it happens in three days, we know you're you say. Number two, for those of you that were on your way to Vegas, Rob, you too, to bet a million dollars on him staying with Golden Man for five years. Don't do it yet. Hank tight. That's two. Three. I can't wait
Starting point is 01:48:52 to hand you Mamba mentality book and a couple of other things for you to go through and also reading the account of Monte Cristo, which is a great recommendation. Your pops has been given you. You ought to listen to them. And the last but not least, I can't wait for you to get your nine figures and come back and have the follow-up conversation. I can't wait for that. This has been a blast. It's great having you on brother. Gang, take care. Yes. And April 20th, coming soon. Take care everybody. Oh, 20. Shoot ya. I just kidding.

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