PBD Podcast - Spring Break Crackdown, Squatters Run NYC, Stephen A Smith's Advice to Dems | PBD Podcast | Ep. 383

Episode Date: March 21, 2024

Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, Tom Ellsworth, and Vincent Oshana are joined by political commentator, podcast host, and author Dave Rubin as they discuss Ron DeSantis' Spring Break crackdown, Do...n Lemon claiming Elon Musk was uncomfortable during their X interview because he is "black and gay," and Donald Trump's remarks that Jewish people who vote Democrat hate their religion. ​​Subscribe to Tom "The Biz Doc" Ellsworth's YouTube Channel: https://bit.ly/4923xnX Purchase tickets to PBD Podcast LIVE! w/ Tulsi Gabbard on April 25th: https://bit.ly/3VmuaRm Subscribe to “The Rubin Report” on YouTube: https://bit.ly/4a3JAyk Follow Dave Rubin on X: https://bit.ly/4a3DjTk Follow Dave Rubin on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3vl2sK8 For more, go to DaveRubin.com: https://bit.ly/493J0j4 Connect one-on-one with the right expert for you on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3MC9IXE Connect with Patrick Bet-David on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3OoiGIC Connect with Adam Sosnick on Minnect: https://bit.ly/42mnnc4 Connect with Tom Ellsworth on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3UgJjmR Connect with Vincent Oshana on Minnect: https://bit.ly/47TFCXq Purchase Patrick's new book "Choose Your Enemies Wisely": https://bit.ly/41bTtGD Register to win a Valuetainment Boss Set (valued at over $350): https://bit.ly/41PrSLW Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: https://bit.ly/40oUafz Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/472R3Mz Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/47gKVA0 Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! Get PBD's Intro Song "Sweet Victory" by R-Mean: https://bit.ly/3T6HPdY SUBSCRIBE TO:  @VALUETAINMENT   @vtsoscast   @ValuetainmentComedy   @bizdocpodcast   @theunusualsuspectspodcast  Want to be clear on your next 5 business moves? https://bit.ly/3Qzrj3m Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I mean, you know know we'll address that by the way we have a special guest here with us Governor DeSantis as campaign manager to spend some time and break down what happened and we want to get all the commentary but aside from that we have a time on it right no we have up. Just doing what I think is right. No, we have the great Dave Rubin in the house. We're excited. When we have Dave here as home team, we just kind of go through the stories. We've got a lot of stories to go through.
Starting point is 00:00:54 We got Candace Owens and Rabbi Schmooley, okay, we have to talk about because that was going viral all over the place. And Dave and Adam will probably be commenting on it. Jared Kushner praises very valuable potential of Gaza's waterfront property. And then aside from that, Miami Beach business owners thanked DeSantis for best spring break ever because I think they had like 250 arrests. And DeSantis, there's a video of him saying, he's thinking about flying Haitian immigrants, migrants to Martha's Vineyard
Starting point is 00:01:25 is on the table. He's thinking about doing that, which the way he trolls when he goes into this mode, he is so good at this part of the game. Well, if they like Miami, they'll love Martha's Vineyard. That's right. I think that's a good point. Anyway, Stephen A. Smith warning to Dems, fear-mongering Trump won't work. Kevin O'Leary says New York Attorney General Letitia James' threat to seize Trump's assets is an attack on America.
Starting point is 00:01:51 By the way, craziest picture I found, CNN, while they're telling the story about the fact that Mar-a-Lago, $18 million, that whole story about the property is only worth $18 million, when they're showing the fire sale, they showed Mar-a-Lago $240 million that he could get for it. It's the hypocrisy that now they're going through it. By the way, Trump only has till Monday to come up with the money, just so you know that. There's a lot of weird things going on behind closed doors. We'll talk about that. There's three new billionaires that came out publicly supporting Trump. I'll tell you who those three billionaires are FBI figures show crime fell as Americans stacked up on guns in 2023 then Fed Jerome Powell came out yesterday
Starting point is 00:02:33 Every part of the market right now is pretty much at an all-time high He came out and he says Fed holds rate steady and maintains three cuts coming sometime this year So he's saying we're not lowering it today, but we will sometime throughout the year. Bill Gates, TerraPower plans to build first U.S. next generation nuclear plant. Google's woke AI wasn't a mistake. We know we were there. Cup Form employees talk about how this has been going on for a while. Alaska Airlines windshield cracks while landing in latest in-flight incident for Boeing.
Starting point is 00:03:09 FAA chief calls out issues around safety culture at Boeing. Credit scores fall for the first time in a decade as Americans struggle to save, keep up with payments. Americans increasingly upside down on auto loans. Cuba, on a verge of collapse as country hits by blackouts and run out of food. Dan Schneider, Nickelodeon. Oh, great. Vinnie watched the whole documentary twice, I think.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah. Breakdown. Dan Schneider breaks down the silence following explosive documentary. But there's three clips of Ariana Grande that you have to see. I don't know how old she's in those clips by the way. In between 14, 15, tops. Yeah, and parents just brace for impact. It's not that bad, but you have to see that Dan Schneider, who's behind all of this, is encouraging kids to do just some ridiculous stuff that took place. And maybe some of the questions is also towards the parents. And aside from
Starting point is 00:03:58 that, Don Lemon, just 10 minutes ago, based on what Dave Rubin just told me, maybe we'll start off with that, said that there was some offensive You know, maybe the fact that Don is gay. Anyways, we'll play the clip to see what Don said that Elon Musk Disrespected him got a few clips. I want to show you one is from AOC. We'll go through she loses her mind One is from Byron Donald's. He doesn't lose his mind. He just gives some data. You got to see these clips. We'll go through them. Got a couple of the clips from Trump telling Sebastian Gorka that Jewish people who vote Democrat hate their religion, and then he reacts to it. And then I got maybe if we have time, we'll go through a couple
Starting point is 00:04:37 different clips. At this point, the podcast is going to be around seven, eight hours for us to cover all these stories. But let me start off with one thing. On the last podcast, some of you were upset when Tom and I were talking and the exchange that we had, I can't believe you said this, you've got to do this. Tom should start his own show. So you know what's so funny when you guys said that? Tom should have his own show. Tom's had his own show for two years. Where is the support? Tom has his own show. Tom's had his own show for two years. Where is the support?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Tom has his own show? So here's what I want you to do. For those of you that claim you love Tom so much, I have a goal today. I would like to see if by the end of the podcast we can get Tom's show, YouTube channel, 5,000 new subscribers. So if you're that committed to it Rob Can you put the link to Tom Ellsworth the great biz doc? YouTube channel link below in the chat right now. He's at twenty nine thousand four hundred I want to see if by the end of the show if you're that committed if we can get him to 34,000 subs by the end of the podcast Rob put the link the link in chat, put it in description, put it in comments, put it everywhere. Go show your support and subscribe to his channel and turn on the notifications.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Having said that, let's get right into the show. All right. You do know the way the internet works. He's going to end up with 25,000. I want them to prove their support and go watch his content because Tom's got some of the best business content on YouTube and maybe we need to get more people watching it because if we do the economy would be doing better for middle Americans. Anyways, let's get right into it.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Of course, let's get right into it. All right, so a couple things here. Dave, we haven't had you on since the announcement when Governor Ron DeSantis stepped out. I think it was right after, what was it? Was it first one or the second one when he said he's stepping away? I don't know if it was Iowa, it was one of them. He went through Iowa and then stepped out
Starting point is 00:06:31 before South Carolina. Right, unlike Nikki Haley, who stayed till the very end. It was just like, listen man, nobody's supporting you. He did the right thing, he stepped out and he did what he did. So where are you now? I'm sure you've talked about a lot on your show, but where are you now with I'm sure you've talked about a lot on your show, but where are you now with
Starting point is 00:06:45 where Governor DeSantis was, and then obviously today with Trump, Biden being the nominees. Well first off, look, DeSantis, I have no regrets supporting him as loudly as I did. I know it had a certain cost for me in MAGA World and all that stuff, that's just politics and that's just media and all that stuff. I have to say, since the day he stepped out,
Starting point is 00:07:07 I am thrilled that he is back here in Florida, and I know we're gonna cover some of this immigration stuff and what's going on with the Haitians coming here and everything else, and having a governor that is as functional as he is in a state that's as functional as Florida is, is great. I am very bullish on the state of Florida, and I'm quite frankly, and I would say depressingly so, not that bullish on what's going on in America because the Democrats and Biden and whoever's really running him have just wrecked so much
Starting point is 00:07:32 And it's particularly what's going on with the borders. So I think DeSantis Absolutely would have been the most functional Mature ready-to-roll person that could have crossed over more voters and everything else However, the Trump story I think you said this to me in my studio if I'm not mistaken The Trump story just was not over yet and once they really went in on the trials and once they went in on All of the ways that they could get him they were just pushing him now the the conspiracy version of that would be that they're doing It so that he can become the nominee, knowing he's the easiest to beat because he can't necessarily get new voters.
Starting point is 00:08:07 They beat him last time, et cetera, et cetera. But 100% I'm voting for Trump, and I think you're completely out of your mind if you vote for Democrats at this point. I mean, they've been exposed at every possible level. That doesn't even sound partisan to me. You got to name me a policy that the Democrats have that is not crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:23 So just to end the DeSantis point, it's like he's here in Florida. We got three more years of this guy in a very dangerous place that America's in. But this state is doing absolutely everything right. That's why I supported him and that's why I'm thrilled he's here. So I have no regrets. Yeah, my Mar-a-Lago invites have disappeared. But first of all, I was right. It's only worth 18 mil anyway.
Starting point is 00:08:44 So your house is worth more than that. I'll go have lunch with you. I'm saying that Trump is vindictive and he, because you pledged support to DeSantis that that all your invitations Mar-a-Lago have been lost in the mail. Is that what you're saying? I just, I don't think they're magically re-up. But look, I was friends with junior way before his dad was in politics. We are good to go. I've become friendly with Ivanka and Jared.
Starting point is 00:09:07 We are good to go. And I have no doubt that Trump, you know, it's like, you know how it is. One little odd thing about Trump related to DeSantis is he's still going after him, which seems odd. You know, he's still DeSanctimonious just a couple of days ago. And it's like, dude, just get over that stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Like, I know we can't change Trump, and you can't tell the guy who did the thing that nobody said could be done how to behave, but like, shave off 5%, man, and you could widen this thing a little bit, but getting him to listen. But good for you for the position you took. You're a professional, you went to it,
Starting point is 00:09:43 here's where I'm at, this is what I'm doing, or there's no way I'm supporting it. you know, it's not like you're going to go do a Lincoln Project thing, I want to do this, I want to do that, I can't stand the fact that he's doing this, you're being professional about it, you chose a team, didn't work out, it is what it is. And to give praise to DeSantis, when I talk to people who are not from Florida, say, how's it feel living in Florida? So listen, when you got a guy at the the top that his number one priority is taking care of his people who are job creators
Starting point is 00:10:09 Who have families who feel safe the economy is doing well. You don't have to worry about what's going on here He's the guy at the top making decisions. You're so good being in a state like this and he's done a phenomenal job Some give him an eight or nine. I don't know if you can give a higher score for what the guy's done He's done a phenomenal job Some give him an eight or nine. I don't know if you can give a higher score for what the guy's done He's done a phenomenal job Look what's happened just in the last couple days, you know, we had elections here and in Delray Beach Not too far from here, which is a Democrat stronghold that Biden won by 27 points. They now got a Republican mayor So the Democrat Party has been obliterated and he deserves a lot of credit for that and especially with the border stuff Where it's like clearly the feds it's not that they're not stopping people,
Starting point is 00:10:46 they're actually encouraging people to come across. Like if it gets worse, and I suspect it will get worse as we get closer to election, DeSantis is gonna do everything possible to make sure boats from Haiti aren't showing up. And if people are coming in through Georgia, they're gonna get kicked out. He's hiring more people.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Like we're gonna do everything right. And you can't say that, you can't even say that in the other red states. Let's go through that since you said it. DeSantis, flying Haitian migrants to Martha's Vineyard is on the table. Rob, I think you have this video, Rob. If you can, do you have the video of him saying it? Yeah, if you can play this clip, go on and play it. I'd be willing to help do that.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I think that the states really have no other choice to do that at that point. It's a little bit different for a maritime state like us. That's why we've got, we really have to get them before they reach the shores. And that's why we're working so hard to do that. Although I will say this, we do have our transport program also that's gonna be operational.
Starting point is 00:11:43 So Haitians land in the Florida Keys, their next stop very well may be Martha's Vineyard. I love that. I love that. I love it. Your thoughts on that, Dave? Well, it's beautiful. This is why we all supported the guy. It's largely why all of us moved to the free state of Florida in the first place.
Starting point is 00:12:00 It had a lot to do with COVID, but it was also like, oh, there's going to be law and order here. We're going to take care of things properly. And sorry, you can't just show up. You can't just show up on our borders, whether it's by air, land or sea, and expect to, whatever they expect, whether it's to be given things or to have gang violence
Starting point is 00:12:19 or whatever, you've got to go. And again, that's why I'm telling you, the day he stepped out, my reaction reaction for as much as I supported the guy And everything else my reaction was a bizarre sense of relief Because well, I'd love to know all your thoughts on this. Like I think America is seriously messed up right now I think it's way more messed up than most of us realize But not all of the states are particularly Florida and it's like if we got three years now to strengthen everything here our border our policing Do more with infrastructure the building of the roads that he's doing, you know, like he's moved
Starting point is 00:12:52 I think he told me he had seven Seven 20 year infrastructure projects that they've moved up to be seven year projects like we're doing it, right? We're bringing in new capital or bringing all these people here. They're voting the right way Just look at the results from two days ago. So it's just fine. And let Trump do everything he can to fight the real monster. You know, and for the Democrats and you, you will hear liberals talk about the necessary need for the bluing of Texas and the bluing of Florida.
Starting point is 00:13:22 You've heard that phrase. Oh yeah. And how does that happen? Well, hey, we all need to move there. Californians move to Texas, they cheer it, they fail to understand which Californians are moving. It's moderates that are not going to be voting dark blue. And now you have this defeat of the blueing of America. Okay, you want the blueing of America? You want to do it this way? Then tell you what, here's some folks from Martha's Vineyard. You tell me if this is what you want in these United States because last time I checked Martha's Vineyard You're still part of these United States
Starting point is 00:13:49 So here you go And so you're also hearing the complaints out of Philadelphia the complaints on New York complaints out of Chicago saying hang on hang on hang on We thought you were gonna throw all these people to Texas and Florida We're not digging this and you're hearing mayors and the citizens of those other cities getting upset by it. And we now in Florida have got some really good leadership down here. Suarez in Miami, great Republican mayor that's down here and we've done the right thing. And I think the hurricane response by DeSantis I've always felt was a case study in emergency response for his own citizens and building that bridge to get the water and relief supplies.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I want to ask another question for both of you guys, okay, and Adam, specifically you as well. Maybe I'll come to you on this one first. So this whole concept with what he did with the party, right? So where Miami Beach business owners thanks DeSantis for the best spring break ever, you know, Miami Beach restaurant owner, Georges Volgaertis, complimented Governor DeSantis and the legislature and the city's local government for the best spring break he ever experienced. He expressed his support for their efforts to combat spring break crime and indecency
Starting point is 00:14:51 during the press conference the governor held in South Florida. It was the first year that restaurants and hotels didn't have to close down. It was the first year we didn't have to hire private security. We had such nice clients. We had good tours. Residents stayed here. We had many of our businesses make more money. Then last year we had no damages the years before.
Starting point is 00:15:09 People just ran into businesses, taking alcohol, breaking tables, walking out without paying the bills. And this year was the best spring break ever. I think they had 250 arrests. Do you think as a guy who's a person who probably in your 20s, 30s, and 40s, I don't know, at this point I can only go 40s. Yesterday. Yeah, 40.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You partied all over Miami. Do you think a part of Miami's identity to be the place to go to spring break? You think this was a good move or a bad move? Well, I'd like to just say on the public record that if you're 20s in your 20s and you're doing spring break, you know, you're entitled to that. If you're 40s and you're still doing spring break, you're just an old man in the club. So I understand how that goes. But this has been an ongoing Tom, I saw you in the club doing that dance move. Let's roll the tape on that. You have to understand that this has been an ongoing
Starting point is 00:15:57 conversation in Miami and Florida, man, Dave, you know, you left Commie Fornia and much like many of you, welcome to Miami. But this has been an ongoing conversation since when? Since the year 2000. Why? Because Fort Lauderdale, even Florida, Pensacola, everything that's going up there on the panhandle, that was always a spring break destination. Miami was never the spring break destination.
Starting point is 00:16:20 It was always the New Year's destination. New Yorkers would invade, inv would invade Miami on New Year's. And I would always grapple with the question. I'm like, you guys are coming down here, spending all this money. I'm like, they were doing this like New York double Dutch. They'd come down here, appraise Miami, praise Florida, love it. And then they go back to New York.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And I would always wonder like, what are these guys waiting on? I would wonder that for years and years and years. But here's what happened in 2000, PBD you'll probably remember this, there used to be a spring break type party in Atlanta called Freaknik. I told you PBD knew it. So Freaknik was- Great bookstores there. It's very- Exactly. PBD, if you want to know anything about PBD, what he was doing in the 1990s, 2000s-
Starting point is 00:16:59 Freaky? Freaknik. Atlanta's most infamous- It's phenomenal. So what happened was Atlanta, Georgia, canceled Freak Nick. Now you don't need to Google Freak Nick to have an idea of what's going down at Freak Nick. So a lot of Knicks, a lot of Freak. And what happened was they said, all right, where's the next best place to get our Freak on? They said said let's just take 95 South with the Quad City DJ I know you could have been a historian exactly And let's head to Miami and all of a sudden spring break Freaknik type became a thing in Miami and South Beach someone that's born and raised in Miami and South Beach
Starting point is 00:17:40 This was this was all new meaning the the spring break, freak, Nick crowd. We've always been a, you know, party culture, nightlife culture, all good. But as someone that lives in Miami Beach, we've seen sort of the degradation of what goes down on Ocean Avenue, Ocean Drive, Collins Avenue, Washington. So this year, Miami officially broke up with spring break. So they elected a new mayor. It used to be Philip Levine. They were talking about it. The new mayor of Miami Beach is like, nah, we're done with this. We all know we're big friends and fans. Francis Suarez, he doesn't, he's not the mayor of Miami
Starting point is 00:18:18 Beach, the mayor of the city. Do you think this is a good move or a bad move? So what's been happening, the bottom line is it's always the most salacious crazy things that get the headlines. 90 plus percent of people are having fun, having a good time, spring break, we get it, but it's the 10% of people that are literally fights, shootings, murders, and Miami Beach is like, we don't need this this crap last point. I went out to dinner the other night The whole streets are gated off Gated off meaning they're preparing for it, you know, we're doing the big event model volleyball again this year They had to move the event because the city's like now we're not we're not doing this right now
Starting point is 00:18:57 so I'm not shocked to see some of the Do you think or the third time was this a good move as a person from Miami? Do you think it's a good move as a person that's been here all these years? I thought we were just one of the history. No, I'm asking you because you've lived here. I do think this is a good move overall, but there's a lot of businesses that would say otherwise. Really? Okay, that's what I want to hear. Okay, there's a lot of businesses. So people don't understand. They had to implement a curfew. Is that last year or this year, by the way?
Starting point is 00:19:28 That's every year. Last year. By the way, that's my car. That's my car. That's my car. That's my car. Adam's in the back. That's Adam dancing and making fun of my car.
Starting point is 00:19:38 That's my car, look at that. So what's going on? So, you have to understand, this is a segmented part. This is probably on Ocean Drive. This is crazy. This is the tourist street, right? There it is. What are most that's what Willie's what are these people drinking cuz right there whatever's in the way
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yes, that's last year. Yes. Yes. There was a shooting there was a murder. This is crazy, but most businesses bars restaurants nightlife They make a lot of their money on the weekends What happened is that they implemented a midnight curfew. All the bars, you know, my relationship with Bodega, everything had to close. So as a business, as a case study, like Tom would do Bodega, bar I'm associated with, we lost a hundred grand of revenue last weekend. So that's a bottom line hit to the bar. But for overall safety, can you
Starting point is 00:20:25 put a price on that? So bottom line is they're breaking up with spring break. Small businesses are taking a hit, but in the spirit of not basically being a shit show. In other words, you are going to run for office next because you gave the very, did you notice that answer? Very professional. Yeah, yeah. Very freaky. How much are you disappointed that the party life has changed for you in Miami? I'm someone that used to attend Freaknik for years Actually, I know a little bit about Freaknik
Starting point is 00:20:52 But I know I know the history the history of Freaknik was actually a good thing There was a group of students that couldn't afford to travel and couldn't afford to go home at spring break because they didn't have The budget and they're trying to go to school you have emery down there you've Got a Georgia State you have a bunch of schools that are in right there Georgia Georgia Tech everything well free tech G tech is there and so what they did they created Kind of a lot of people don't know about Tom no no no is picnics Celebration and some boy and music in the park so that during the week of spring break... He's getting whiter as he's talking right now. Tom, who's your favorite Atlanta rapper?
Starting point is 00:21:27 Dave, what if I picked on Dave? What is this abuse? Tom, who's your favorite Freak Nick Atlanta rapper? I know you could rattle them off. Who's your favorite? I gotta go to Ludacris. Luke Sloan! That's true. The point was it started out as a good thing and became a bad thing. It was a good thing where there was music in the park, there was things that was going on during the day and into the evenings.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And it started out just as being the kids that couldn't get home for spring break stayed in Atlanta and did something. And then it got completely out of control over the years and had to shut it down. That's what's happened to South Florida. I can remember going down, I'll give you a history of Florida, in the mid 80s there was a place right there at Los Olas and A1A, Sunrise A1A, there's a strip down there, there's a place called the Button, Penrods and the Candy Store. The Candy Store was owned by Los Angeles comedian
Starting point is 00:22:17 Flip Wilson, who way, way, way back had the Flip Wilson show. He's passed away, God rest his soul. But the spring break, I remember it down there, did not used to be mayhem. It used to be a big party. But then the years go by, it gets out of control, and the city's have to step in. Can I just ask a question? Sure. Because I don't understand what would happen.
Starting point is 00:22:34 So you go out, you freak-nick, you bring it down here, you're drinking with your friends, you're partying. But what is the jump from just having a good time to taking a chair and throwing it at someone behind the counter at a yoga school? I'll give you the answer. What is the jump then? I a good time to taking a chair and throwing it at someone behind the counter at a yoga. I'll give you the, what is the, I'll give you the answer. What gets you to do that? There's three elements. Yeah. You're 20. Yeah. You're drunk and social media. Combine that all together. Perfect storm for Tom's freak next situation.
Starting point is 00:22:59 You guys know that I'm sorry, Tom. You told me never to say anything. He was actually a pimp in college. He was like't play that shit. That was you right was it? Tom no, it's just like It's just I was I was in LA by then and no, but me and the beatches So Dave are you is it safe to say you're avoiding Miami? You asked the question when you asked the question about why people throw the chairs and stuff, very basic. You know, emotions high, intelligence low.
Starting point is 00:23:36 When you're drinking, your emotions are high, your intelligence are low, you're not making a lot of good decisions. But let's transition into another story. You've been at parties at my house, I get pretty drunk, I've never thought of picking up a chair and throwing it your own house though Take care of your own place. I also only drink the finest tequila Dave So these guys are drinking better basketball player when he drinks more Drink a lot with me though That's all I need
Starting point is 00:24:04 Parties at your house are different. No one's gonna throw a $1,200 chair with fine Italian leather. Yeah, what are you nuts? It's a little different nowadays. Rob, can we, do you have that clip? Because I'd like to transition into a interview that happened recently with Don Lemon and Elon Musk and apparently Don, just a few minutes before he went live podcast, he had some, he feels like you'll almost disrespect him. And folks, please be gentle with the reaction to this. Go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Look at the modern. People have been asking me what I meant by when I said he did not like answering questions or being held to account from people like me. And so some people took it to mean a racial thing. I meant someone who has a different worldview But since people raised it and you said what you said, do you think that he was uncomfortable? I didn't want to go there Oh, yes, you did. Do you think he was uncomfortable sitting in front of a gay black guy? Oh like so pathetic Oh probably more gay than black. I would think what what I don't know. I don't more gay than black
Starting point is 00:25:03 I don't answer. She's saying that he's't know. He's more gay than black. So she's saying that he's white? Don Lemon is more gay than black. I mean, yeah. No, no, no, no. More offensive. More comfortable with the gay than the black. Oh, because I thought that was offensive. I thought, like, this is the lady.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Don, you're more gay than black. Hang on. By the way. That's what, Don. Don, you're black. Don, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Gay is not, you're black? By the way, this is Kara Swisher,
Starting point is 00:25:26 who a week ago was on national TV saying that the San Francisco thing was overblown for ratings. This is her. And people are saying, overblown for ratings, this is a poop map. This is the number of arrests for people that are using needles in front of my house. This is the same reporter that did that. By the way, she's on this book tour right now. By the way, and that's the go-to to the left.
Starting point is 00:25:49 If nobody's paying attention and nobody's listening, it must be because I'm black or I'm gay. It's the same playbook. It's just so damn pathetic. And as an interviewer, as an interviewer, to lay back on that after, he got owned in his own interview because he owned himself.
Starting point is 00:26:06 We dissected it on my show. Elon, and having met him a couple times, this guy has incredible generous spirit. He sits there. You can see him thinking everything through, not giving canned answers. He's doing everything that you would wanna do when you're sitting down with a great person, right?
Starting point is 00:26:21 And Don is actually reversing all of his old positions. Did you ever see, there's a couple pieces from Lemon about 10 years ago where he talks about how the black community should actually maybe have two parents and two parents. Pick up their fuller hands, get it together. All of this stuff, and now he's reversing it in real time because he feels that he's not part of the system anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And the fact that the guy, he didn't get know, he keeps claiming that he got fired by Elon He demanded I'm sure you guys covered it five million bucks a five million dollar advance a cyber truck and equity in the company But there was no deal. He didn't get fired He didn't give him a piece of paper and say you're good He was just on the platform like we're all on the platform So and then he goes on CNN the network that fired him to claim that Elon fired It's just it's this need to be the victim. It is just so About Don specifically as someone that is an interviewer as a host has had very uncomfortable conversations with yeah
Starting point is 00:27:20 And a wide array of people What do you think his actual agenda was? Like a lot of it was gotcha questions, he's sitting there with Elon Musk. I would be thinking, hey, if this is gonna be my new quote unquote boss who's about to pay me 5 million bucks, I might not push the limit.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Do you think there was a further agenda, people basically saying do something? What did you think? Yeah, the agenda is he wants back in the game. You know, he's been handed his hat, he's out of the game. He got fired by CNN for being a hack, which has nothing to do with him being black nor gay Actually, you could argue that that has clearly helped his career because he has no discernible talent So and he's not a particularly good is right, right?
Starting point is 00:27:55 So like you were helped by those things so but putting that aside he clearly was this is my shot You know what? It's like like you're sitting down with someone. You feel that the machine that you want to, or the game that you want to play in, you're going to get some cred if you take him out. And Elon was just, the thing that's great about him is you can see him thinking it through when he's answering the questions.
Starting point is 00:28:17 There is no canned answer there. And that is a beautiful thing. So when Don is doing this bullshit that he doesn't even believe, he's basically he's basically telling Elon sensor more sensor more and Elon's answer You know, you love censorship censorship so much you can taste it and it's like that is right So lemon is trying to he's basically trying to bow at the altar of a machine that has no use for him anymore So then at the end well, I'm gay and black, so please watch my show. You see a really important thing. He, for the machine, I felt when I stepped back
Starting point is 00:28:49 and looked at it and I saw Elon's comment says, I think Jeff Zucker wrote those questions for you. Elon tweeted that. I think you're right. I think he's been outside, let's get back inside, and from inside the echo chamber, the bubble of his own liberal thought and those that he salutes,
Starting point is 00:29:04 this was an audition to get back into the machine Well, because you guys know this and that you've all built this which is pretty freaking amazing and I built my show No one is going to subscribe to Don Lemon, right? There is no fan of Don Lemon I'll give you five dollars a month Don Lemon to be a gay black interviewer. Nobody's gonna do that He's not gonna generate enough clicks unless he does this. So if he's not in the machine, well then he's independent, but you can only be independent if you're good and people care about you.
Starting point is 00:29:31 So he's grasping at a bunch of stuff. He's probably enjoying this right now, right? Because everybody's talking about it for a couple days, but it doesn't work in terms of building a business. No, because what it also does is, it lacks a genuine approach of wanting to have somebody on a show and the way, you know, he's interviewing is on three by five cards that somebody probably wrote and gave him and that's like when I
Starting point is 00:30:00 do a town hall, we'll have a list of questions that we'll come up with and we'll have it on three by five cards that we go through podcasts We're just having a conversation Maybe we'll bring up a story and we'll get into it right or even an interview Where it's a one-on-one interview you're just kind of going and talking to the person based on an outline of five or six or seven Issues that you want to go through and then you process it, right? The transition from that space into podcasting this this was more of a CNN style interview. And I don't know if, you know, if sometimes when you're going from, you realize I know
Starting point is 00:30:33 what I'm doing, I'm going from this to this to this. They're kind of like, I don't need anyone's advice. I know what I'm doing. It's a very big transition into this game. It's a different game. By the way, again, Shannon Sharp was able to pull it off because Shannon Sharp was able to do a great interview just talking to the people and it takes off. It's not for everybody.
Starting point is 00:30:51 We'll see how he does. I actually enjoyed the interview with him and Musk. I watched the whole thing and I enjoyed it because I enjoyed the way Musk handled him trying to corner him and it didn't happen. Next story. By the way, while we're talking about all these things with Miami, shutting down 250 arrests, we're not doing this again, all this other business, on the opposite side, New York Times comes out with an article, and I want to read this to you.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Survey. Only half of New Yorkers plan to stay in Democrat City. So only half of New Yorkers plan to stay in Democrat City. So only half of New Yorkers plan to stay in Democrat City, according to the survey of more than 6,600 New York City households, reported the New York Times. This is coming from New York Times, by the way. But, but, but, his fraudulent, and then this goes to Breibar's story, Joe Biden received 76% of New York City's vote in 2020. And Democrat Eric Adams received 66% of New York City mayoral vote in 2021.
Starting point is 00:31:54 So why is everyone so unhappy with New York City when everyone's getting exactly what they voted for? Unhappy these Democrats are especially compared to seven years ago, only 39% are content with the state of public education currently right now. 37% are happy with the level of public safety in their neighborhoods and only 34% are satisfied with the neighborhoods cleanliness. Less than a third, less than a third rate cities quality of life as excellent or good less than a third quality of life excellent or good less than a quarter are content with the overall quality of
Starting point is 00:32:31 government services you know do you think it gets to a point where bad policies are so bad that people on the opposing side even say I'm done I'm not doing this anymore, Tom. Yeah, I do. And I think if you know your history, and I'll be quick with this, go back and look what the survey said, and that led to the election of Mayor Giuliani. And we can say what you want about him now
Starting point is 00:32:56 in association with Trump and things he's had, but go back and look at what led to Mayor Rudy Giuliani being elected. It was a similar time with a bunch of things that were completely out of hand, and the people voted the other way. People voted the other way. And by the way, Giuliani, he came in and look what he did. But there's a bigger problem now, which is that New York as a state, who someone could check the numbers on this.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I think the state itself has lost about 500,000 people since COVID, right? Net. So, right. So 500,000 and many of them are now voting the right way in Florida. So Florida's getting redder, and then by these people leaving, New York is thus getting bluer. So now you've put a divide there,
Starting point is 00:33:33 but also there is no Giuliani left in New York. We've talked about, I think we talked about it on when we did the live show here with him. There is no Rudy left there that thinks that they can fix it now Maybe the miracle person shows up and can really reverse the direction of the of the entire machine But probably not when when Kathy Hokel who was one of the worst COVID maniacs in the country when she got elected which wasn't a reelection
Starting point is 00:34:00 It was her first election because she obviously took over for Cuomo She only won by about 500,000 votes for governor this last time. To Zeldin. To Zeldin, who nobody knew two weeks before the election. He was a little congressman nobody had heard of. So she wins by 500,000 votes, but we know about 500,000 people left the state.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Now it's not to say every single one of them would have voted that way. But the point is the divide now has gotten bigger and bigger. And I think we're just gonna, there's almost no way to reverse that. Can you imagine a same, let's say a somewhat conservative leaning New Yorker saying I'm going to run for mayor of New York and winning? How, how would it be possible? Well, I think, I think I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:34:38 I know this sounds crazy and bold, but I think Trump's camp is convinced they can flip New York. Okay, I think They think there's a chance they can flip New York. Do you know what do you think they can flip New York? well, I think I think right now, you know, if you're if you're playing a If you're playing a game and you're looking at the school and what happened over the years and how close it is It's not close. The Dems are still ahead But the more and more, give you an example. Stephen A. Smith.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Can you pull up Stephen A. Smith, by the way, the clip with Chris Cuomo? So both Chris Cuomo and Stephen A. Smith are probably voting left and have their entire lives. Okay? Presidents' whites. Let's just, Cuomo, last name, father, Mario, brother, Andrew, CNN, that's his background, that's what he's done. We know where he's probably going to lean politically.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Stephen A. Smith is fair. He'll give his thoughts and his opinions, but he's also probably voting the other side. Again, folks, I don't know. I'm not speaking. I'm just saying probably. I'm giving guesstimation. They can come out and say, Patrick, you're wrong. You know, we voted in a different way.
Starting point is 00:35:47 But I'm saying that's probably where they are. But watch what Stephen A. Smith says that what's not working today, watch this. It's good to have you. I got a couple of topics for you. It's a beautiful shirt. First thing is, you don't like the way the media played the Trump blood bath situation.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Why? Well, first of all, I thought that he was talking about the United States and China and the auto industry, and I thought that they used it as an opportunity to expose and exploit the kind of things that they wanted to about Donald Trump. Fair enough. The problem is, is that he's kicking their tail. That's really what this comes down to. According to the polls, he's up, he's gaining momentum.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And when you use these kinds of tactics and it comes with a question mark, it comes with some trepidation. I don't think that's something that has shown itself to work against Trump over the last few months or so. I mean, the guy's got four indictments, 91 counts against him. He's been impeached twice.
Starting point is 00:36:44 He's got, he just lost a civil case where he was ordered to pay in excess of $400 million. And he keeps gaining campaign dollars. He keeps gaining momentum. And somehow, some way they keep using the same old tactics. That was really my point. It's not working. It's not being effective.
Starting point is 00:36:59 He's literally kicking their butts and they've got to get their act together and find a different strategy because the fear mongering over the kind of things that may come out of his mouth is not the kind of tactics as have proven to work against this man at least as of late. Pause it right there. Okay, so check this out. You hear Stephen A. Smith. He's a New York guy. You can just listen to him. He's an East Coast guy, right? Yeah. And he's
Starting point is 00:37:21 saying this and by the way, he works for an organization that got rid of a lot of people that were on the right side that maybe they didn't work out or you stopped hearing from them. We can name some of these guys. You ever sit there and you're like, what happened to Broussard? What happened to Sage? What happened to all of these? Where did they go all of a sudden? That was the organization. Even when I was sitting down with Steven A and I was interviewing him when we were in New York at ESPN, you know what his handler kept telling Mario? He kept telling Mario, hey Mario, Patrick better not ask any politics.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Stephen A doesn't want to ask any political questions. And I said, does Stephen A not want to answer political questions? Or does ESPN not want Stephen A to be wanting to answer political questions? So you just kind of watch to see what's going on. Do you think common sense is going to prevail? Maybe even let's do this. Let's do this. Rob, can you run a poll for me?
Starting point is 00:38:12 Run a poll and say, chances Trump wins New York. Put less than 25%, put 25 to 50%, put 50% plus, okay? Chance is he wins New York. And by the way, folks, while you're voting for this, don't vote emotionally. Actually think about it. It's very, very hard to beat New York. What do you think is going to happen? Can we get the numbers on New York last time?
Starting point is 00:38:41 That would be good enough. We pulled it up the other day, but it was like 50, 46, 50 46 40 or 50 I don't know what the I said Rob and current numbers and by the way just a heads up all the Manettes that I get on the app all the majority of the New Yorkers from cops to business people to everybody I'm not joking Dave all of them every single one of them is like hey man what the fuck can you talk about this problem talk about this problem I'm moving house Florida I'm moving house, Florida I'm coming every single New Yorker that I speak to shout out to everybody that I talked to on my neck
Starting point is 00:39:09 They're all like bro. I'm talking about law enforcement guys that own pizza shops are like this is just effing crazy Like I gotta get the fuck out of here. I could show you I can't do it on air But I could show you easily ten conversations I'm having with guys that were NYPD former and we're PD that all have left Yeah, and most of them are here now and that's again it goes to that divide you start losing all of the good people So the question is even if Trump's policies make more sense and even if everyone's like, you know, I've had it They're roasting rats on the subway. This is a problem There may just not be a good enough good people left and you got it
Starting point is 00:39:42 You got to give the devil is due the media has confused people and lied to people about so much that people just vote the wrong Way, there you go 6138 but keep in mind keep in mind when this was This vote was when 2020 November 2020 what happened to New York post? November 2020 totally different if I can give a little perspective on, and I sent you some numbers to validate this. Look, the big three blue liberal states, we all know this, California, New York, and then if you want to put Illinois as a second runner up, second city, those are the big three. But if you actually peel back the numbers and you actually take a look at the bigger context of what's going on in California,
Starting point is 00:40:21 your guys state and New York, it's not even close. Because if you look in the at the sort of the like the zeitgeist of each of these cities, New York is capitalism. It's Wall Street is, you know, Vinny's from Yonkers over here. There's like this what the fuck is going on here type of vibe. California is totally different. Hollywood Silicon Valley. It's literally left far left. So if you look at the numbers, Rob, Trump has closed the gap by 10.
Starting point is 00:40:47 So if you look at the numbers now, there's only a basically a 10 point lead in New York between Biden and Trump, whether it's 42, 32 or 46, 36. But if you go to California, it's actually still a 20 point lead, that same 20 point lead that Biden beat Trump in 2020. So something in the DNA of New Yorkers is basically saying, I'm not just going to go along with the blue no matter who mantra. What's that syndrome where you like your abuser and you fall in love with it? Stockholm syndrome. That's exactly what, cause it's, it's that close still.
Starting point is 00:41:19 That means people are just like, no, anything but Trump. And they're willing to suffer just because they, the, the orange bad man Hitler guy, that's what they don't want let's also not forget you know where's Trump from New York oh there's no Trump not just the political Trump the 2016 home alone you're talking about the bankruptcy Trump the casino Trump the Trump so like there's a deep deep history with I think I think a New York is not afraid to take a stand and everybody Come take his hand and they can walk this road together
Starting point is 00:42:04 Through the storm. And I think New York's capable of doing that. A poet said that once, right? Here's the poll for you. 3,000 people voted, less than 25%, 28%, 25 to 50% chance, 45, 50 plus 28. So you know, it's to say 73 says there's a less than 50 50 percent chance he went Unfortunately at 28 percent of our audience is now officially delusional if they think there's a greater than 50 percent chance that Trump wins New York, but respect to you guys out there words talk numbers scream
Starting point is 00:42:38 Could you pop back to the polls really the sienna polls? Take a look at the most recent sienna poll add those together really the sienna polls take a look at the most recent sienna poll add those together Biden 42 Trump 32 that is 75% that means 25% of the people in that poll these are the Independents right now that on polling are saying neither and it's showing up a lot You can go to all the polling places But this is the new strength of the American independent voter that people are not looking at this in the polls Which way are those indies gonna break when the rubber hits the road and the two? Conventions come and go and it gets serious and they're looking at the economy
Starting point is 00:43:14 They're looking at the border and it's time to what you look at take a closer look at the numbers I think about this. What are the chances what I'm sorry go ahead? I know those numbers. There's actually numbers that support what Tom is saying basically Kennedy RFK is getting about 10 to 15 percent and the leftist communist Cornel West has taken about 5% in New York so that's how the numbers watch this this is what's interesting this is what's interesting when did you think a guy named Mark Cuban would defend Trump? When did you think a guy, Kevin O'Leary, would come out this publicly defending a judge out of New York?
Starting point is 00:43:54 Kevin O'Leary says, New York Attorney General Letitia James' threat to seize Trump's asset is an attack on America. He condemns New York Attorney General Letitia James' threat to seize Trump's assets, labeling it an attack on America, citing the significance of property rights and due process. You think about America, the reason this is the number one economy on earth is that we have laws and we have due process and we have property rights. O'Leary expresses concern over the unprecedented nature of James' action, noting the lack of precedent for a 30-day bond requirement and its potential
Starting point is 00:44:31 impact on foreign investments. The concept of seizing assets is on a 30-day bond number, has never been issued. No insurance company has ever issued anything near this, so there's no chance it was going to happen. The legal dispute arises, I mean this is insane, the clip, and how long is this Rob, because I'm pretty much done with what he said. About a minute. Okay, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I mean I pretty much read what he said. The legal dispute arises from James' lawsuit against the Trump Organization for fraud and overvaluation of assets, with Trump order to pay $350 million in damages by March 25th? And they're trying to right now find a way. And by the way, if he doesn't come up with the money on Monday, do you know what the lady on The View said the other day? Do you know what Letitia Shenton James said the other day?
Starting point is 00:45:18 Do you know they can't, you know how they said, we can't wait for him to sit in court like this and have to answer questions? Do you on the view they're like, oh, I just can't wait to see his assets being seized I just can't wait to see that happen. They're Celebrating this happening, but Pat I'm sure you know this but the point the the part that you didn't mention There is that the banks got paid back Everybody was made whole it makes a point of saying this in the CNN clip So everyone was made whole and It makes a point of saying this in the CNN clip. So everyone was made whole.
Starting point is 00:45:45 And this idea that you can just overvalue all your companies and the banks will give you whatever you want. It's not helping anyone that buys a house. You buy a million dollar house, you gotta put 20% down. You need an $800,000 loan, but you can't just say to the bank I would like $800,000 please. And they look at the house, they see the comps, all the obvious stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:03 You can't even tell the bank, I think this is a 50 million auto property. No, it's called someone's got to go do the appraisal. Yeah, we'll do the underwriting We'll do the appraisal mr. Byer. Can you just stand over there for a minute with your realtor? Well, that's why the Mar-a-Lago thing so Mar-a-Lago they said it's valued at 18 million It's 17 acres an acre there on the water in West Palm an acre alone is easy five mil So like you just extrapolate that and then 18 18 acres is special So now you're gonna be premium just none of it makes any sense But this is what they do and again
Starting point is 00:46:34 I think this is why I'm not bullish on Trump winning New York because there are not Enough good people left who get what the issues are and and that leads just the divide to just grow and grow and grow. Rob, I'm going to send this to you based on what Dave just said, where they were CNN all bragging about the fact that this is not a, you know, they're telling a story when Letitia James came out saying Mar-a-Lago is worth $18 million, right? Watch this, watch this CNN story. I'm just going to give you the screenshot. If you can pull it up, Rob, I just literally texted it to you. Look what even CNN has Mar-a-Lago worth if he does a fire sale. Even CNN knows it's worth $240 million.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Do you realize this? They just pay to tell this story. So Trump has until Monday to pay $454 in a fraud case. If he misses the deadline, the New York AG can start seizing his properties, properties Trump could sell on a fire sale today. On a fire sale, even CNN says they can get $240 million from our logo. I mean, look, you've been there. The place could use a paint job. They've got some cracks in the walls. There's some stuff that could be fixed.
Starting point is 00:47:44 But you know what? If they can get this thing thing for 18, how about we'll all split? Oh, yeah But here's my question you guys from a legal standpoint How the hell can she get away with this for this long and get to the point where they're gonna seize this year? What does that say about our legal system? But what does it say about New York? That's the point I'm trying to drive home and that's what O'Leary is saying This has nothing to do with Trump The system is now so corrupt and it is so broken and there aren't enough good DA's left in New York
Starting point is 00:48:11 There aren't enough good lawyers all of the people that are taking their businesses out of there Elon taking What was it the the ex corporation out of Delaware? Yeah, like we're just going to see that divide continue and continue So the guy the Rudy that was waiting when David Dinkins was destroying New York City He doesn't live in New York in 2024 and that that is the problem. I have a question for our friend Dave Rubin I think you'd be the perfect perfect person to answer this You know the one thing you would hear about Trump whether you like him or don't like him is like What was the moment that he lost your vote? What was that like, what was the moment that he lost your vote?
Starting point is 00:48:45 What was that moment? What was the moment that he gained your vote? You know, the every listen, 90% of the country has made up their mind. I'm talking about the movable middle, the independence, as you call them, the disaffected liberals all that. We all remember the moments that people would basically highlight of when they lost Trump, like the David Duke moment, the both sides moment, the John McCain. I like my people captured that whole moment.
Starting point is 00:49:09 I like my people not captured. What do you think the moment is for the general American of why they're going to go back to Trump, meaning the capitalists, the Kevin O'Leary's of the world, the Mark Cubans of the world, their moment is now the money, bro. I might not like Trump's rhetoric, but when you start coming after hundreds of millions of dollars, they're not playing that. They can be next. What do you think the movable middles moment is to go back to Trump? The wokeness, the border. What do you think it is? The Cuban one is kind of funny because he's so wrong about everything, especially as it relates to woke. And even now he's like, well, I do like my money.
Starting point is 00:49:39 So I guess I should maybe, you know, kind of defend Trump on this thing. I would say the moment for, I can tell you the moment for me, because I didn't vote for Trump the first time I voted for Gary Johnson and I should be judged accordingly But then but then it was about two years into Trump and I was like wait things are kind of working piece in the Middle East economies chugging along everything, you know the pre-covid and then one day I was I was having lunch in Beverly Hills And I happened to drive by a Trump rally on Rodeo Drive over there and I was like You know what? I've never been to one of these things. Let me just see what's going on I was kind of coming around and I went there and it was the most joyous
Starting point is 00:50:13 party of America loving people and they had blacks for Trump and gays for Trump and Latinos for drum and all of that and Virtually everyone there knew me and everybody was so excited that I was there that the next week I said to Dennis Prager, hey, you wanna go to this thing, see what's going on? I started bringing more and more people and Dennis was already on the Trump train. But it had nothing to do with the political ideology per se. It wasn't like, oh, I'm for Trump, so that means I believe you.
Starting point is 00:50:38 They party better, I mean, stuff that matters. Well, it was just like, I love America more. And it wasn't like, okay, you better have 15 week abortion, you better have cap gain tax of this. It was that we love this country, we want to fix this country. And I think more and more as the Biden thing goes off the deep end, and I think especially with the border, I think more and more people are just going to be like, you know what, I can't have gangs of cannibals running around the city that I live in. Do you think right now the border is the number one issue that will move people from left to right?
Starting point is 00:51:08 So let me ask you this, when was it for you? Well, it's been a slow drip. Thanks, I sit next to you and obviously Dave Rubenstein. Working on this guy for years. Yeah, I think for me, I mean, I'm in the same camp as probably an Elon Musk or a Joe Rogan where none of those guys were voting for Trump. I don't think ever, but at some point,
Starting point is 00:51:27 you have to take a look at the landscape and say, all right, clearly the game has changed. Clearly the media has lied to me. Clearly we've been manipulated. Clearly a lot of the things that we thought about Trump or thought about certain things were fabricated by the media. Most people are not going to change overnight.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Most people, it's gonna be a slow move I think it's just the reality of what's going on in America as a dude who actually certainly thinks that only women can have babies and That men can't transition like this and believes in borders I think there's a slow drip to be like what the so for you for you. Yeah, it's a slow drip Yeah, on what happened. Yeah, okay I think the so would you would you would you say a part of it is? the Unfair treatment where it's like this is getting a little bit too much at this point
Starting point is 00:52:13 Do you think you would put that at the top where what are they doing to this? I think that's that's a part of it That's not number one I think number one is genuinely the border like what is happening happening here, guys? Like what, you know? And then also an element is what the Democratic Party even stands for at this point. It used to be blue collar, the workers, you know, equal wages, all that. Now it's Silicon Valley leftists and Harvard educated idiots. How many people you think there are like Adam on where he was the first time we spoke? First time I spoke to him. when he wanted to come down.
Starting point is 00:52:48 He reaches out and he says, hey Pat, I'm making a major life change. I want to come to Dallas. And I want to come to John Valley. I said, you realize this is not Miami, bro. There is no freak-nick here. So I tell him there's no such thing. Tom's not here. I'll make that sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:53:03 But so we're talking. I said, so where do you stand with politics? Well, you know, I just kind of like to hear everybody's and I said, tell me about Trump. What do you think about Trump? And literally the conversation got uncomfortable. And I'm sure you remember this. Did he cry? No, he didn't. He was like, well, why?
Starting point is 00:53:23 I mean, you know, you mean I didn't say not a fan, not our best and brightest. He tried to kind of go through it because you're almost like, I'm like, is this guy a guy that you can have a conversation with or are you so much deranged that there's no logic that you can have? And then he's like, yeah, it's kind of, okay, cool. Sounds good. Then he came and we started having a conversation. But you were a conversation but but the you asked me if I was a Bernie guy I said definitely not but who you asked me who's your guy? Who did I say? Manchin? I said Joe Manchin
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah, if you're a Democratic, it's a Elected in a red state over and over again. I like that guy to directly answer your question You were asking how many of those people are there? I talk I mean this is what I have focused on for the last five years because I think the only Real group of people who can move in America are the disaffected libs and I think particularly over the last five months Because of immigration they're the ones that can move right now. There's no yes Are there disaffected Republicans who are like, you know, they never trumped? Yeah, sure They're of course there are but they didn't vote for him last last time There are an awful lot of old-school liberals JFK liberals
Starting point is 00:54:29 Decent people like you this sort of a political independent That's a chunk of people that can move actually when you were on with Mar on Club Random and you kind of challenge him and I Did the same thing with him and it helps because he's stoned and drunk so you can kind of work them But you basically said them what are the good things Biden has done? And he really didn't have much, right? And we can all point to the bad things Biden has done as it relates to the economy and particularly the border and the rest of it.
Starting point is 00:54:54 And a lot of people see that. Even apolitical people see the crime going up in the streets and everything else. So the decent liberal who is suddenly like, you know what, my son thinks he's a girl, there's a cannibal living two two blocks over you're allowed to take over people's houses and they won't kick you out You see that story out of New York now. Yeah, do you have that story Rob? They're just what pages they're just stacking a whole bunch of insane shit and the good libs and by the way that was part Of my argument for DeSantis was the good libs will much more easily be able to vote for DeSantis than Trump
Starting point is 00:55:23 Yeah, but I think Trump has an opportunity. By the way, I have to go to that story. I have to go to that story. Check this out. By the way, homeowner, okay, not homeowner-za, homeowner, this lady who's a homeowner of a million dollar property detained for allegedly kicking squatters out of own home. Her house. Did you hear what I just read?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Yeah. Okay. So she gets detained, if you have the video, Rob, for asking people who are not paying rent to leave her house, she gets arrested. Is this Babylon B? Is this a fake story? This is not Babylon B. This is not satire. This is definitely not onion.
Starting point is 00:56:04 This is real. But let me read this to you. Okay, let me read this to you. Adele Andalaro was detained by police after attempting to remove squatters from her inherited $1 million home in Queens, which she discovered had been illegally occupied and locked by squatters. Video footage captured Andalaro confronting the squatters, video footage captured on the lotto confronting the squatters after hiring a locksmith to regain access to her property.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Is this it Rob? Is this the clip? Yeah, this is it. Okay. So regain access to her property, one squatter claiming to be on a lease but failing to provide documentation when pressed by reporters. Go ahead and play this clip Rob. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:56:42 You shouldn't be trying to steal my house. Yes you are. So Adele, you're getting arrested right now? I'm being. You shouldn't be trying to steal my house. Yes you are. So Adele, you're getting arrested right now? For being arrested. For what? For being in my own home. Adele Andaloro says the intruders moved in about six weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:56:56 They changed the entire front door and locked her home. Why would somebody live in New York? I don't hold this. Exactly, she does. Yes, but then once again you should know how the law works. There's rules to. There's rules to the s***. As you got to go to court and send me to civil court. The woman managed to get inside and lock the squatters out, but the men stormed back inside. Call the police again. The men called the police on her and got her arrested for the illegal eviction. So why is it that I have to leave and he doesn't have to leave?
Starting point is 00:57:27 Because technically you can't be kicked out. That's the law. They claimed they've been renting the property since October but failed to provide any documentation. By the time that someone does their investigation, we'll be well over the 30 days and this man will have stolen my home. So here's a commercial for New York City. This is so, so, so here's a commercial for New York City. This is for Queens, right? This is a commercial for New York.
Starting point is 00:57:49 You just saw that, right? First a person can come out after you paid off the debt for a loan that you had, the appraisal, everything done legally, she can come back later on, 20, 30 years later and say no, you owe now $400 million for all the debt. They're like, no, we got our back. Then you can own a home in New York and somebody can come in and claim they've been paying rent since October,
Starting point is 00:58:13 cannot prove documentation, then you who owns the home is still being arrested? This doesn't sell the dream. No wonder half of the people in New York are thinking about moving to a different city. And then think how freaking ridiculous it is that the cops then have to enforce that. And you've also degraded the level of person that is going to be an officer in New York now.
Starting point is 00:58:34 So instead of them dealing with real crime and now they've got the freaking National Guard in the subway, you've got cops kicking out, arresting people who own the house. But that's what O'Leary was talking about. The issue is the laws. This is, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening, this is about liberal leadership. people who own the house. But that's what O'Leary was talking about. The issue is the laws. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening. This is about liberal leadership. They made the laws.
Starting point is 00:58:52 That poor cop was saying, and I feel for the cop, he said, technically, bop, bop, bop, because it's the law. They made the laws. Liberals made the laws to enable the seizure this way by sitting in a vacant home for 30 days and then they change the locks. So that homeless guy is saying I don't know I don't want
Starting point is 00:59:11 what's right I want the law and the law is bad. This is what liberal policies do. This is failure. And by the way just because of stuff like that there was a TikTok illegal saying if a house is not inhibited because they're paying attention. He's doing a how-to video. attention He's doing a how-to video on TikTok going. He's telling illegals how to invade You're joking Listen to this piece of shit. Sorry for my language. I have to it drives me nuts Rob the subtitles it's in Spanish, but the subtitles tell it all. Podemos invadir una casa.
Starting point is 00:59:48 We are able to invade a house. Is that the thing? He's basically saying it in Spanish, but what he's... Yo, look. He basically is saying it in Spanish, but what he's... Yo, look. He basically is saying it in Spanish, but what he's... Yo, look.
Starting point is 00:59:57 He basically is saying it in Spanish, but what he's... Yo, look. He basically is saying it in Spanish, but what he's... Yo, look. He basically is saying it in Spanish, but what he's... Yo, look. He basically is saying it in Spanish, but what he's... Yo, look. He basically is saying it in Spanish, but what he's... Yo, look. He basically is saying it in says that if a house is not inhabited, we can expropriate it.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Capiche, guys, here in Yuney State, the invasion of land is also applied. Wow. I think that will be my next business invading abandoned houses since I have looked. He looks really happy about it too, right? I'm in a coach with my friend Africans and they told me that they have already taken about seven houses. And as the saying goes daddy, you have to look for the return and the return right now is to invade house since we are not in a street situation. And guess what, guys, thank Joe Biden and Mayorkas, the little rat. And this is just, these are houses that nobody's in right now.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Wait till they're like, you know what? F it, go ahead, Dave, please. No, this is the point because you know in El Salvador, which now is turning around because of Bukele and he's arresting all of these people. I was in San Salvador maybe 12 or 13 years ago and at the time my brother-in-law was working there, you know, it was crazy crime and you basically had to have armed guards everywhere.
Starting point is 01:01:20 You go and stay behind bar bar and all that. But what the gangs were doing, it wasn't that they were just walking into houses that were empty. They would just walk into houses that had people there and just kick them out of the houses. And that's exactly right, Vinny. The next thing is that they will literally walk
Starting point is 01:01:34 into your house, they'll kick you out of the house. The police aren't gonna do jack shit because they're not qualified to do anything anymore and they also don't wanna be called racist and everything else. And you're gonna have basically gang lords taking over suburban areas and And again, it gets to the point that there will be nobody left in these states and cities to do anything
Starting point is 01:01:54 One thing for Dave, this is why your mantra what crazy world sane views make so much more sense right now The first video of the guy Taking over to the New York apartment then you have this guy right now. The first video of the guy taking over the New York apartment, then you have this guy right now. This guy went from a squatter to a legal scholar like that. According to bylaw 42069 finders, keepers, losers, weepers out here. It's like, where'd you get that? And they said that it's a landlord tenant issue. No, it's a landlord criminal issue. Speaking of criminal, I don't know where the free speech and inciting violence or inciting crime, the line on that, but this is clearly incitement of crime.
Starting point is 01:02:33 And there's another one, because once you go down this deep dive and it's like they're hiding this shit. There was one guy that made another video, Dave, I'm pretty sure you saw it. He has a baby and he's saying in Spanish, he's like, look, all you have to do, come here and have a baby, they can't kick you out. They can't kick you out and thank God cuz how God works sometimes he made another video crying Child services came and took the baby away because he made that stupid-ass video and they got his ass And they're probably gonna try to deport him By the way while this is going on there's a couple things
Starting point is 01:03:00 I do want to just kind of go through right now and then Rob I want you to pull up the clip if you don't mind pull up the clip of AOC, okay? AOC and Byron Donald so if you can pull this up, so here's AOC going against Tony Boblinski Boblinski who did business with the Bidens and look out she asks the question and business with the Bidens and look how she asks the question and when she stops Tony from speaking, then watch what Byron shows at the end of his clip. You have to see this, folks.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Go ahead, Rob. I have a quick question. Simple. Is it your testimony today that you personally witnessed President Joe Biden commit a crime? I believe the fact that he was sitting with me while I was putting together a business deal. Did you witness the President commit a crime? Is it your testimony today? Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:58 And what crime do you have you witness? How much time do I have to go through it? It is simple. You name the name the crime you watch him steal something Corruption statutes Rico and conspiracy. What is it? What is what is the crime sir you? Specifically you keep up you asked me to answer the question. I answered the question no ego. You're obviously not familiar with Sir excuse me sir the question. Rico, you're obviously not familiar with the crux. Excuse me, sir. Excuse me, sir. Rico is not a crime. It is a category. What is the crime? It's a category of crime that you're then charged with a long hundred... You have charges. Sir, please name...
Starting point is 01:04:39 You want me to name the exact statute under Rico? Yes. Well, it's funny. In this committee room, everyone's not here. There's over 80 lawyers that want to lost their... Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. of the Republican majority lost in the desert Impeachment 101 had to get to my speech the majority party or whomever is raising impeachment
Starting point is 01:05:21 Clip now watch this watch what he does Okay one by one by one in the proper sequence of proof of checks, checks. And then look at when Biden gets his check, what the date is, and look what he put in the description of why he got that money. Go ahead, Rob. Now, to the money flow, because this is where the rubber meets the road. On August 3rd, they actually stipulate through WhatsApp text messages the exact stipulations of the deal.
Starting point is 01:05:46 On August 4th, $100,000 is wired into Awosco PC from CEFC infrastructure. Mr. Chairman, I want to submit for the record a portion of the bank statement for the time period August 3rd of 2017 to August 31, 2017, stipulating $100,000 going from CEFC into the bank account of Hunter Biden through Owasco PC. With that objection to order. On August 8th, four days later, $5 million is then transferred from the Northern International Capital Account of $5 million to Hudson West III. Hudson West III is a bank account controlled by Hunter Biden and Mr. Gon Wing, aka Kevin Dong, who is a CEFC associate. That money
Starting point is 01:06:35 comes from the Northern International Capital Bank Account, a bank account that is tied to the CCP. It's weird. Mr. Chairman, I want to submit for the record the bank statement demonstrating that transfer. Without a objection to order. Okay, moving on. On August 8th, the same time period, there is a wire transfer of $400,000 to Owasco PC from the Hudson West III bank account.
Starting point is 01:07:02 That $400,000, Mr. Chairman, I have the transfer records in the bank accounts from the August time period. I want to submit that for the record without objections ordered. Now, here's what the fun stuff comes in everybody and I got a minute to do it. So we're going to get this done on August 14. There is $150,000 that is transferred from a Wasco PC, which is controlled by Hunter Biden to Lion Hall Group, which is controlled by James Biden. I have the records here, Mr. Chairman, of the $150,000 that has gone to Lion Hall Group from a Wasco PC.
Starting point is 01:07:36 I want to submit that for the record. That objection's ordered on August 28th. And I believe we have a screenshot for everybody in the room on August 28th. Mr. Chairman, we have the withdrawal ticket from lion hall group that is signed by Sarah Biden, who is the wife of Jim Biden for $50,000 to withdraw from lion hall group. I want to submit that withdrawal receipt for the record. That objection to order bingo on September 3rd, August 28th action. Mr. Chairman, we have the deposit reference into Sarah Jones Biden's account on the same day she withdrew it from Lion Hall. I want to submit
Starting point is 01:08:10 that. Last document. Here we go. On September 3rd, 2007, from Sarah Biden's own personal account, there is a check that is written to Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., The president of the United States today for $40,000 Signed loan repayment a loan repayment by the way that Joe Biden's own personal accountant. Mr Eric Schwerin has no record for here we go. I want to submit that for the record. Mr. Chair And that objection to order to the members of the committee It is clear that the source of this money came from CEFC and at CEFC is a company that is directly linked to the CCP and actually the chairman of the CCP, the chairman of the Chinese Communist Party, Chairman Xi Jinping.
Starting point is 01:08:53 With that I yield. Boom. So that is just like, bam. So AOC wanted proof. He just gave it to you. So here's my question though. And I want to ask all you guys. So Trump was impeached for a phone call that they thought they heard
Starting point is 01:09:08 No, there was no actual proof when they impeached him for the whole phone call for the Ukrainians Olensky whatever right now that we have All this proof. It's black and white. How is how's he not getting impeached? Is it because they don't control the house in the Senate? Yes, is that crazy? Does that like here's the proof. He's guilty He was doing shady deals with the Sun with China and nothing's gonna have to go to court I got a car had been a wed. That's a if there has been a red ripple not a red wave just a red ripple There would be an impeachment Unbelievable there would be an impeachment. They would have the seats. seats no not a red wave just a red ripple Like do you see why people lost all hope in in in the judicial system and this in Congress and like what the hell Are we even talking about the hunter Biden thing is just been so obvious from day one that something was not right there
Starting point is 01:09:57 First off that he's selling art that he's an artist It's the easiest way to money launder period because it's subjective in how much it's worth So if you think that someone in their right mind is paying five hundred thousand dollars for a piece of shitty ass art Hunter Biden made in a day because it's they like his art and it has nothing to do with getting access I bought it. You're bad, dude But number two then he works for Burisma He works everyone knows this already But he works for Burisma Ukrainian energy company when he's a crackhead with no expertise in Ukrainian energy or anything else for 80 I think is 80 grand a month and it's like why the hell did he have that job?
Starting point is 01:10:39 It has a little something to do with who his dad is and do you remember that at the height of the craziness? something to do with who his dad is. And do you remember that at the height of the craziness before Trump was impeached, when Don Trump Jr., remember it came out that he had lunch with a Russian on the Upper East Side, and people were going bananas, bananas, and nothing came of it. And it's like, yes, the double standard,
Starting point is 01:10:59 but the thing is, we don't have a functioning enough system anymore for anything to happen. So we happen when that so we all see it We all see it But they can't get it through the Senate the Congress is screwed the courts are now I don't want to say the courts are corrupt, but the courts are I'll say for you. They're very corrupt The courts are well no state courts state are for sure eight courts for sure although Do you see that the New York State Supreme Court? it's all black women now. So that's very exciting. Great DI score. Yeah, that was a credible thing to do.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Through diversity, equity and inclusion, they got all black women, which is statistically impossible. I don't want to be spoiler alert, but you know what's going to happen to Joe Biden? Absolutely nothing. No, of course. Exactly. That's not going to, I mean, what it's going to happen, I mean, but what we can go down from there and filter down what we've just saw. saw number one Byron Donalds is an absolute beast He's here in Florida There's a reason that he's sort of risen up the ranks of the GOP because he's just a common-sense dude forget about yeah playing the
Starting point is 01:11:55 Culture wars black gay this they just a genuine good dude There's a reason he's being considered for potential VP for Trump. That's a And you saw he just went fact, fact, fact, fact, where you have AOC out there just going feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling. I don't know who her boyfriend is, but I would certainly prescribe her some vitamin D. I'll let you do the math on that. But the reality is Hunter Biden is they're setting him up to be the fall guy. You know, whether it's the gun stuff, what's the tax evasion stuff, the crack cocaine, you know, now he's blow casso out here, paint and paint things.
Starting point is 01:12:31 So nothing's going to happen to Biden and Hunter's going to be the fall guy. We first learned about this guy, Tony Bobulinski. Remember, it was October of 2020 during the election. Hunter Biden, Tony Bobulinski. I remember we had that. We did the debate in Dallas at this point. Everyone's like, who's the fight? This is Bobolinski. Just crazy. Four years later, he's still dealing with the exact same thing. Hey, Adam, I just drew some concentric skirt circles, kind of scribbles. And I wrote what I think of AOC.
Starting point is 01:12:54 I'll sell this to you for 50 grand right now. You had a deal, sir. I'm surprised you didn't charge a hundred grand. I can't, I can't read what I said. Wow. That read what I Tax the rich tax the bitch By the way, by the way meanwhile meanwhile President Trump comes out in an interview with Sebastian Gorka Rob If you can have this ready and both clips if we can go to it. So this is one of them go to play this Talk and hate baby,, Netanyahu. I actually think they hate Israel. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I don't think they hate. I think they hate Israel. When you see those Palestinian marches, even I, I'm amazed at how many people are in those marches. And guys like Schumer see that. And to him, it's votes. I think it's votes more than anything else because he was always pro-israel he's very anti-israel now any jewish person
Starting point is 01:13:49 that votes for democrats hates their religion they hate everything about israel and they should be ashamed of themselves now and i go play the other clip go play the other clip is this to them rob i believe right go ahead now he's addressing by the courts i think that the democrats have been very very opposed to jewish people that's
Starting point is 01:14:15 true and to israel we have to do is look at senator shim or what he did with israel is a disgrace and i think israel will probably not forget it very soon. It's a very sad situation There you go, so thoughts on this you agree with them He's right. Look I was in Israel last week when Schumer gave that speech and you know being in Israel and I went to the Kabutas that were attacked. I was right on the border with Gaza Which when you see how close this thing was to Gaza and that they had basically a just like a fence You have a better fence at your house with some barbed
Starting point is 01:14:46 wire Egypt has three layers of fences that are way higher and everything else And then to see the utter devastation one of the communities I was in 900 people live there two people live there now She's I went to the Nova festival. It looks like a graveyard of 350 people, but it's it's a memorial now I talked to survivors I talked to hot you know people in hostages families all of these things but to be there during that yeah that's that's the no no no that's the Egypt that's the Egypt border you can maybe find it on my Twitter a picture of the board of the border that Israel had with Gaza which looks nothing like and they
Starting point is 01:15:22 were and they relied way too much on technology and all that But anyway to be there and witnessing what happened and I also saw the 47 minute video, you know There's this video that they're not releasing publicly It is you there are literally are not words to explain the things that I saw I mean beheading people with what you with what looks like a kitchen knife and Watching the entire thing the worst even, and then walking away with the head. I swear on my life. And even worse than that, the worst thing that I saw
Starting point is 01:15:50 was you see a father of two young boys, I'm actually not even sure if I'm supposed to talk about this, but you see a father of two young boys, probably six and eight years old, the Hamas guys break into the house, the father runs with them, grabs them both, trying to get them into the bomb shelter. But the bomb shelter's a bomb shelter. It's not set up to be a defense
Starting point is 01:16:08 if a terrorist breaks into your house. The guy calmly walks up and just throws a grenade into the bomb shelter. You see the dad's body basically just explode and drop dead, two little kids hysterical, crying. Then there's video of them talking in the kitchen, hiding about what just happened to their dad. One of the kid kids eyes is blown
Starting point is 01:16:25 It turns out the kids actually did survive But anyway to be there to watch that and see what's going on and be at hostage square with all these people and then have Schumer Get up there where everybody it doesn't matter what you think Trump is totally right It's not about BB is just an avatar for Israel right now, right the entire country's behind him a hundred percent They know they have to win this war as every single almost every single person from the flight attendant on El Al To anyone I met in Jerusalem said to me we have to win this war. We have no choice There's no choice they win this war or the state does not exist And by the way, there's a bigger war brewing on the north because Hezbollah is way stronger than Hamas and they've got something like a hundred
Starting point is 01:17:02 Thousand rockets facing them. So there's there's a cataclysmic series of events on the horizon here. But to be there while Schumer and the thing is Schumer it's the most cynical thing you can do. What Schumer has realized and I think what the Democrats have realized is they don't need the Jews anymore basically. And for Schumer as a Jew I think there's a particular version of kind of hell in that. But what they've realized is they're winning California no matter what. They're winning New York no matter what, despite our earlier segment.
Starting point is 01:17:32 And they're losing Florida no matter what. That's pretty much the entire Jewish vote. So now they suddenly see 50,000 Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan as important. And Biden has dementia and nope, he's not running the show and Schumer did like to me it's the most cynical awful thing you can you can possibly do right now and to be there during it was what is that what is that what do you mean Schumer what do you say oh no no it's in essence i mean he completely threw Israel under the bus they're fighting an unbelievably just war you know if you if you compare it in numbers, imagine if 10,000 Americans were killed and several
Starting point is 01:18:07 other thousand were kidnapped, and then right when they get to the end, because RAFA now is the end. This is the end. The hostages are there. Who knows if any of them are alive at this point, and if they are alive, just wait till they get them out and they look like Holocaust survivors, what the emotional reaction to that is going to be. But they're right at the end, and right at the end you basically call to to depose a
Starting point is 01:18:27 democratically elected leader This has nothing to do with whether you like BB or not or what your feelings on his politics are or anything else He's a rightfully elected leader of an ally and even if they weren't an ally. They're a Democrat democratically elected government and to basically call for them to be deposed I thought we're not for nation-building are the Democrats suddenly for nation building but to do it to a country that's in the midst of an existential war is is completely beyond the pale I mean Schumer it's under he's trading he basically wants to get beheaded a day later that's what he's trying to do he's
Starting point is 01:19:01 trying to bury his head in the sand so they behead him a little bit lower on the you see BB's response. He's just said look as a Democratic country ally of the US whatever you feel don't call for elections That's basically what they calling for elections for BB now We all know what happened in Israel pride or October 7th It was very contentious the Supreme Court what they were stacking the court, just in the context of America, some people don't know how it works in the Knesset and Israeli politics. You have the left wing, you have the right wing, it's also a parliamentary system, right? So Bibi is on the right.
Starting point is 01:19:35 He's basically the Donald Trump of Israel. But in order to basically put together a coalition, he had to align himself with the far right, extremists, the Orthodox community, the religious, but the people on the left, here's the biggest thing. The people on the left, the people that were killed at the Nova festival, the people that were killed in the kibbutz, those were the leftists. They were all lefty. Those were the peaceful people. Those are the people that are screaming from the rooftops. We have to coexist. We have to help our Palestinian brethrens. Those are the people that were massacred by the way.
Starting point is 01:20:06 So now there's uniformity in Israel. They're like, they're killing the people calling for peace. So those people are now completely silenced and they're just like, look, and these guys, the left there that the peacenik left is over and it should be over. Frankly, I never believed in it, but it should be over. The Palestinians don't want to state. They want to make sure that there's no Israeli state that that really is What that is? Yeah, Israelis are gone
Starting point is 01:20:27 Yeah so that that's one part of it but Watch it But the left there has largely disappeared because the people that live down south as you point out they wanted a lot of the people That broke in on October 7th They worked at those come in every single day and work one big money one of the things that they did we saw this there They would put numbers on the houses so that the Hamas guys knew how many people
Starting point is 01:20:48 they were supposed to kill in each house because they had workers there that work with them. So that thing is collapsed. But for Schumer, and by the way, this has nothing, I happen to be a supporter of Israel, obviously, but if Schumer did this or if a Democrat leader did this to any democratically elected government, it would be wrong.
Starting point is 01:21:05 We wouldn't want an ally saying, look, Joe Biden has dementia, everyone knows it, our policies are horrible. Imagine if France was like, you know what, it's time for, if the French prime minister got up there and was like, it's time for Joe Biden to go in the America, we would all be like, fuck off motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Yeah, and- He has to take care of his husband, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, are you on board that one? 100 on board that one. And by the way, nothing wrong with that, Yeah, yeah And by the way nothing wrong with that but the way they're putting it like since 15 years old that was your teacher I'm not pedophilia. It was I don't want to go go ahead But so and but so Dave I have two things both So so when you said about the Jewish people basically there are they abandoning like full hole what he's doing what how they're treating
Starting point is 01:21:43 You know with with Schumer treating this because basically it's for votes He's literally turning his back as a Jew saying the hell with everybody He wants those votes same with the the left again the Schumers illegals open the border. They're just that hungry power Have they lost the Jewish that that that block for good? Is that it? I think they are making it's a horrifically cynical political calculation to just look at the numbers. I don't know what percentage, maybe we can figure it out. Jews live in New York, Cali and Florida.
Starting point is 01:22:12 And if you know the results of those elections already, you just don't need them anymore. It's as simple as that. By the way, it's why the Democrats always win the black vote and then never do anything for blacks. It's like, oh, we'll get these people to vote for us and we don't have to do anything for them. This is pretty freaking spectacular.
Starting point is 01:22:27 So it's a similar version to that. So Schumer also, you have to remember, this guy's been in politics, it's not as long as Biden, but he's a piece of the machine that has existed for so long that he's just running cover to maintain his power as much as he can. I don't even think that takes great analysis to figure out.
Starting point is 01:22:44 And when he's doing that, if he has to throw his own people under the bus, and by the way, this is a guy who's been pretty good on Israel as a Democrat. I mean, he was against the Iran deal, which I think was the right position, but it's a horribly cynical thing, and I hope the guy, I hope for the rest of his life,
Starting point is 01:23:00 every time he steps foot in a synagogue, he's booed out. Good. I want to watch this year, 16% of Jews comprise approximately of New York City's population, making the Jewish community the largest in the world. Outside of Israel, as of 2020, just over 1.3 million Jews lived in the five boroughs of New York City. Over 1.912 Jews lived in New York, New York, Jersey City overall. So again, if these guys got fully pushed away and they have influence, I don't know where we were at. We were in the Bahamas, I don't know where we were at. There's like a hundred Jews from New York who were in Bahamas and I'm there with the
Starting point is 01:23:36 family, morality, kids, you know, we're just having a good time. And one by one by one, they're all coming and we're talking to them, right? Vinny, weren't you with us? No, mine was at the airport with like 30... And they're all like, yeah, let me tell you, we're from this and we're from that. And then the wife comes and this person comes and that person comes. I'm like, so where are you guys politically? Because you know, most of you guys are this, well, listen, I'm not going to vote for Trump, the wife.
Starting point is 01:24:02 I'm trying to figure out my wife. There's about a hundred of them and they were all Trump guys. Yeah. Yeah, okay on this trip So if if then you do this and they have influence and they're making money and their doors Imagine what they can flip in state like New York by the way, you know, do you know my blowjob theory my blowjob? political theory? Have I told it to Rudy Giuliani? I did My blowjob theory is that most men sane men have moved are okay with Trump Like they get they get they can see through all the bullshit and everything else women
Starting point is 01:24:37 Mostly middle-class women or upper middle-class educated women still have just the aversion to Trump the way he speaks grabbed by the pussy you know that and at the end of the way he speaks grabbing by the pussy and all that and At the end of the day guys like getting a blowjob And if you think that you are not gonna get blowjobs anymore because you're supporting Trump Then a lot of these guys are gonna be quiet However, however, I do think in light of what's happened over the last couple months that's shifting a little bit But but I actually think that's a pretty legit theory Unless anyone here wants to come out against Bojask.
Starting point is 01:25:08 By the way, we'll be speaking about that later on the sauce cast. But what Tom was saying about the red wave and what PBD is talking about, New York could go for Trump, or the blacks for Trump, or seeing Latinos break for Trump. I think we're going to see an overwhelming majority of Jewish people being like, yeah, I'm done with the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 01:25:23 We saw the Michael Rapp report right here with big dick Donald Trump. I said, I want to make you a bet, buddy. I think you're actually going to end up voting for Trump. Well, what do you mean? Because I'm like, you're a dude. You like blow jobs. OK, so here you go right there. So I think there's going to be some sort of red wave coming from blue Israel over to the
Starting point is 01:25:40 Democratic from the Democratic Party to Trump. And I think he's going to do that. So we'll see what happens with that. Words, talk, numbers, scream. And as much as the Democrat pollsters look, oh, look, we're four points closer in Texas. They need to look over their shoulder and look at what's happening in New York,
Starting point is 01:25:54 because those numbers are real. Is Trump going to win New York? I don't think he's going to win New York. But it's going to be closer than ever. And I think it's going to scare the hell out of them. And the biggest thing is if New York's close, Pennsylvania is not New York because you have so much of that Allegheny area. We'll cover this in due time, but there are things happening.
Starting point is 01:26:16 In your numbers, what is it? Words talk, numbers scream. Words talk, numbers scream. I mean if you want to ask like, why is Schumer doing this? Why is Bernie doing this? It really has to do with one thing and that's Gen Z. Overwhelmingly, 35 plus Americans, age 35 plus, overwhelmingly support Israel as a democracy, as an ally.
Starting point is 01:26:33 It's the TikTok generation. We can go down the rabbit hole of bite dance, TikTok, and CCP that is indoctrinating the youth to every single thing that's happening here. They're like, why would you side with an ally, America, Israel? No, side with Osama Bin Laden and the terrorists. Go for it. And that's happening here. They're like, why would you side with an ally America Israel? No side with Osama bin Laden and the terrorists go for it. And that's what happens The only qualification I would make on that is Bernie's been pretty consistent on his awful Israel stance forever
Starting point is 01:26:54 And he should go to Gaza go to Gaza, you know The other thing in the 47 minute video is they never say free Palestine There's they're yelling religious slogans the entire time and they're talking about kill the Jew kill that you a guy calls on WhatsApp calls his mom to talk about how many Jews he's killed so Bernie they'll still kill you Bernie Chuck They're still gonna kill you Chuck and they will kill everybody that you know Send Amy Schumer there and see what they do to her, you know, their cousin who from the left has gone to Gaza Schumer Gone to God gone over there right like gone to Israel. No one's going to Gaza. Schumer. Gone to Gaza? Gone over there, like gone to.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Israel and Sinema. Well, no one's going to Gaza right now. I mean, they're not. But what they're saying, if you're saying it's gonna be safe for them, let's defend them. Oh, oh no, send them. I would gladly send them.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Why don't you go? Yeah, go hang out. Go hang out and spend a little bit more time talking to them if you care so much about it. I'll donate $100,000 to Schumer's next campaign if he walks into Gaza. There you go. Walks into Gaza. There you go
Starting point is 01:27:49 Did you did you watch the interview Candice did recently with? The Rabbi I think which she said to rabbis Can you play this play this go and play this clip Rob Can you play this clip? Can you play this? Go ahead and play this clip, Rob. And just so the reference, the back story is that this rabbi is accusing Candace Owens of calling Rabbi Shmuley Bo Tich's daughter a hag. So that's the setup.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Right. A hag, which, okay. How dare you go into the misogynistic, excuse me, the anti-Semitic trope of his hag daughter, something used throughout the late 18th and early 20th century. Sorry, sorry. Hag is now anti-Semitic trope of his hag daughter, something used throughout the late 18th and through the early 20th century. Sorry, sorry, hag is now anti-Semitic? That is a term of his hag daughter that goes back into the witches of Eastern Europe. Why did you have to call her a hag daughter?
Starting point is 01:28:37 Just to be clear, because she's a witch. I think she's a witch. That's not because she's Jewish. I would call someone a hag of any color. I think she's a witch. What's not because she's Jewish. I would call someone a hag of any color. I think she's a witch. What they have done over the last two years. I believe his daughter is a hag. I said that because that's what I believe.
Starting point is 01:28:51 You may disagree with me on that, but to say that's anti-Semitic is ridiculous. I would call any person a hag. Well, here's my thing. And I watched this entire thing. It was really, really difficult because, mind you, I don't think Candace Owens hates Jewish people. But to like, for instance, if I called Adam just off the cuff, I'm like, you freaking
Starting point is 01:29:12 old ass hag. For somebody to have to go all the way back to whatever century that he's talking about, be like, what you're saying is anti-Semitic. It's like, I felt, this is me They think he was searching for something because I don't know if you guys know Rabbi Shmuel, I don't know how it is in the Jewish community. The guy's a rabbi, which is technically, you know, holy She's like he sells butt plugs and dildos in a business with his daughter Candice thinks it's not good in my opinion as well I don't think anybody in the religious sect should be in business with their daughter of all people selling sex toys
Starting point is 01:29:48 That's the angle she took to say that it's anti-semitic that she doesn't like Jewish people I think it's just reaching and looking for something to just label her which I think is dangerous because like she's not if you saw Did you see this thing Adam? Did you see the the the interview with the? Yeah, I'm saying, do you think Candice Owens, saying that Rabbi Shmueli, who he and his daughter have been attacking Candice for over two years, that her calling the daughter a hag in her mind, she's like, yeah, this is anti-Semitic. Let me go for that. I'm going to let Dave respond as well, but I'll just say, look, I've been called, and shout out to the chat and all our friends out there.
Starting point is 01:30:26 I've been called every name in the book for Jew, for this, for that. It is what it is. I believe in free speech. Say all you want. Inciting violence. Sorry guys. I don't play that game nor should we. You know, I don't know this guy or the rabbi, but I did do, I watched the interview there.
Starting point is 01:30:43 They have, she said her words, I believe, like any Orthodox person, whether you're Jewish, whether you're Christian, whether you're Mormon, whether you're Muslim, they have kids. They believe in having lots of kids. So it's fun to say butt plugs and dildos. No, they have oils and lotions and potions to help keep the spark alive in your relationship. Cool. I don't really care. They did an interview with your old friend, Cenk Weger, and Rabbi Shmueli, and they did
Starting point is 01:31:10 that. Right. And look, and he's like, I don't really give a shit about this. The reality is, let's get to the actual point here, whether his daughter owns some sort of sexual orientation, whatever it is, I don't care. That to me is so the most irrelevant thing here. It's the moral equivalency of what Israel defending itself versus terrorism. That to me is what I'm focused on.
Starting point is 01:31:33 But going to this though, what her comments about Shmueli has nothing to do with anti-Semitism. Yeah, I think- It's just her to believe. Candice is the one that went to Jerusalem when they opened the embassy. She's not anti-Jewish. The fact that that guy could take that hag comment and go back to like, that's like me sneezing right now and Adam going, ha-choo, and you go, oh, you said Jew. That's anti-Semitic. You did. You did. I'll say last thing and then I'm going to let Dave do his thing. What
Starting point is 01:31:59 I will say this, you know, there's people that overreach and that on all sides, but especially on the Jewish side of things. I'm talking about right now, guys, my friends do it. Not every criticism of Israel or Jews is anti-Semitic. I'm happy you said that. I'm sorry, but a lot of it is. Yeah, I know there's a lot of it is. But this is reaching for something that's not there.
Starting point is 01:32:19 I agree. I don't even, the hag thing going to the witches. Did you even know that? You're Jewish. No, no, but that's where you get reaching I called my grandmother an old hag. I didn't know it was anti-Semitic. You know after the Holocaust which people are still alive. You had seven last points. What are your thoughts? Well that Jews are paranoid and that's what's going on. Putting aside the specifics of that clip for a second
Starting point is 01:32:39 I know it would be extremely good for the internet and for the warfare that we're all involved in for me to go after Candice Right now, but let me just say that Candice and I were very good friends for a long time. I was at her wedding She was at my house only a year and a half ago helping us pick out strollers for our kids who weren't even born yet I in large part I kind of discovered her when she was known as red pill black on YouTube And I brought her on my show We did a sign called YouTube week where we take little youtubers when I sat down with her when she was known as red pill black on YouTube and I brought her on my show We did a sign called YouTube week where we take little youtubers when I sat down with her in my house I didn't I actually didn't know her name until 20 seconds before we started
Starting point is 01:33:13 I said, I think you've read pill black, but what's your real name? We ended she ended up staying in my house for like 10 hours that night We've had her and her husband over for dinner many many times. So in this case I We've had her and her husband over for dinner many many times. So in this case I don't think that I'm just not in the place anymore Where I want to be involved in the the firestorm of burn everything down As it as it relates to her and everything else I would say just on on Israel specifically what I've heard her say She seems largely confused about a bunch of issues and I hope that she will talk to people who know a little bit more about some of this stuff than she is
Starting point is 01:33:48 You know There was a video where she was talking about the Muslim quarter in the old city of Jerusalem The implication being the Jew that Israel keeps all of the Muslims in one quarter and it's like the Muslim quarter Which has existed from the British Empire to the Ottoman Empire to we can go back and back to the old temple in Jerusalem Israel which there is no apartheid where 20% of the population are Israeli Arabs Most of whom are Muslim and are some of whom are on the Supreme Court and the rest of it I think she's a little confused about some of the things but I think Well, I hope you heard the overriding part, which is that I don't want to make it personal with her
Starting point is 01:34:23 I don't really consider us friends anymore But that's just like the nature of the reality of the thing that we're all in. What do you think about the dynamics of? Her and Ben at daily wire where you know Ben made those comments at that one event and was recorded and went to the public And you know, I don't agree with this and obviously tensions were high. What are your thoughts about that dynamic? I think there's many layers to this. Let's just remove the Israel layer for a second. There's a pure business layer to it, which is that Candice has a contract with Daily Wire.
Starting point is 01:34:55 I know nothing, I truly know nothing about the nature of the contract or how long it lasts or how much it's for or anything else. But it seems fairly obvious to me she wants to leave the Daily Wire. And I would say there's a little bit of the Tucker thing here, too Which Tucker is building a network. He now is the Tucker Carlson network. He's gone after Ben. I would say in a fairly unfair way Repeatedly going after Ben's motive saying he doesn't love America things like that cool Tucker Tucker. Yeah, Ben has repeatedly
Starting point is 01:35:21 He did it on my show. He's done it on his show said I'll be happy to sit down with you I've offered to moderate it, but you could moderate it. They don't even need a moderator I think it would be a good conversation to have you can have difference of opinion on say foreign policy or any political issue without going after someone's motives or saying they don't love America that sort of thing but At a business level Tucker now has a network that is in competition He's building a network now that is in competition with the daily wire So it would be pretty great to take out Ben Shapiro. That's just reality. I think that's what it is I think that there is an element of that
Starting point is 01:35:55 I'm removing just the specifics around Israel or politics for a second and saying that there and I think Candice to her own Whether she wants to join Tucker or do something else after, start the Candace Owens Network, whatever it might be. I think there are realities outside of just like the political fights. And that's why in this case, it actually for me, it has more to do with that we were friends for a while. I'm trying to honor and respect that.
Starting point is 01:36:20 We were quite good friends. And I think She sees an opportunity here, and she's going why would why would Tucker see been as been as competition though If you're building if you're building a right-leaning network daily why daily wire is number one right so you go for number one You're trying to take out number one. I can't say that for sure and again. This is something I've said on my show. I would gladly sit with both of them and discuss it. I've had both of them on my show, obviously repeatedly, but I think there is some reality there. If Tucker's going, well, what is the new right?
Starting point is 01:36:49 What is the future of the right? You think Tucker's just doing that to Ben because of? Not just, not just. I think there are legit political differences, but think about it. If you're going, oh, this guy's got the online network, that's the right online network, and now I'm trying to build a network,
Starting point is 01:37:04 it would be pretty damn good if I could irrepar the online network, that's the right online network, and now I'm trying to build a network, it would be pretty damn good if I could irreparably wound him. That's just reality. You would only do that if a guy's ahead of you. Do you put Ben ahead of Tucker? Well, in terms of business, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Well, yes, yes, I do. Actually, since Tucker has, yeah, I think I- Let me get that. I wanna ask, it's very important for you, I wanna hear what you're gonna say. So you're saying to me, post Tucker leaving Fox, and even previous to Tucker leaving Fox, who had more influence in America,
Starting point is 01:37:35 Tucker amongst conservatives or Ben? Previous, before leaving Fox, I would say it was pretty close to call. Pretty close to call, not in our world, not in the online world, I get it, I get it. In the online world, pretty close to call, not in our world, not in the online world. I get it, I get it. In the online world, it's all about the online people. But Tucker had a huge amount of influence
Starting point is 01:37:50 when he was on Fox. It's a little hard to say how much his influence is now. That's not a shot at Tucker, by the way. I see on X, he has a kajillion views on everything. We don't know exactly how they're quantifying views if you just skip past it and all that. No, I know you take the counter on this. I'm not even saying that.
Starting point is 01:38:08 I'm not taking a counter. I like both guys. I'm not a... No, no, no, in terms of influence post-Fox, right? You would say his influence is way greater post-Fox, right? Yeah, no, there's two different things. There's the, let's isolate concerns. The isolate concerns of, you know, Ben, the CEO hat, the Israel
Starting point is 01:38:29 hat, the conservative hat, he put Israel one, conservative two, Daily Wire three. That's just when he did that in that event, when he called that Candice, he went Israel, conservative, a Jewish audience, then he went CEO, Candice, part of his network. He's not the CEO, and he hasn't been the CEO for at least a year. Co-founder, but even your, when people think about Daily Wire, they don't think about Jeremy Boren. They think about Ben Shapiro. We know Jeremy's the operator, we had him on,
Starting point is 01:38:58 we had a very good conversation with him, but you think Ben, you don't think. The optics of it, yeah. I guarantee you, if we did a poll right now now and you ask who is the CEO, they would say Ben Shapiro when I ask you the question. So you have a big responsibility because a big part of Daily Wire's success is Ben. Ben is a behemoth of an influence. But in regards purely to Tucker versus Ben, to me, you think Tucker doesn't have the kind of influence in the
Starting point is 01:39:28 last since he left Fox as Ben does? No, no, no. That's not exactly what I said. I think it's hard to quantify what Tucker's influence is. Can you put up chartable? Pull up chartable. I don't think it is because, by the way, when you go to Twitter, I agree with you because some of the stuff on Twitter are like 400 million views.
Starting point is 01:39:44 Well, it's not really fun. And then on. It was 50 million Americans. They're telling us things can you go up and type in Tucker just type in Tucker and that if you can and this Tucker's a Show come on it should come. You know what just type in Joe Rogan Type in Joe Rogan and right there Joe Rogan experience, and if you can go to Apple Go to Spotify podcast top America podcast, but just click on the first one there you go Number one is Rogan two is I don't even know Three now go to Apple and by the way, and then keep going down Huberman
Starting point is 01:40:20 You know ballin you got Mel you got Call Her Daddy, you got all these guys that you're going, right? Yeah. This is Spotify, is that what we're looking at? I'll go to Apple as well. Lex, you got all these guys, right? You don't see. Hey, I know that guy!
Starting point is 01:40:34 What I'm saying is you don't see, there's Candice, there's Jordan. Okay, so now go back on Charter Bowl and go to Apple, okay? And on any given day, Joe's always number one on like a golf score, but obviously, you know, Apple has different kind of algorithms. Keep going lower, keep going lower, keep going lower. You know, you got Huberman, Ben is there, 18, go a little lower, a little lower, a little lower. Okay, on the Apple side, keep going lower.
Starting point is 01:41:03 Does Tucker even put his stuff on Apple? There it is. Click on that real quick. So now we see the ranking there. Zoom in a little bit. So on Apple, he's 65. On Spotify, he's 3. So to the Spotify talent, he's way ahead.
Starting point is 01:41:23 To the Apple podcast, Ben is way ahead. To the Twitter views, I would say Tucker's way, way ahead on the Twitter views, which Twitter is now getting God knows how many people that are logging on on a daily basis. And I would say even on YouTube if you go compare data. So I'm asking this because I I wonder if a part of Candace is dealing with Tucker so are you insinuating, are you speculating that maybe Candace is trying to leave to want to go join Tucker? I think it's definitely possible. Okay, so that's what you're thinking.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Or to start her own network. Okay, I got it. But I think what you just illustrated there in that Tucker was way down below Ben on one of them and on the other Yeah, and also the daily wire has a massive subscription game. I don't think Tucker has a subscription No, he does not so think about it. The daily wire is general I don't know what their Reb is maybe I don't even know if it's public but they're generating a huge amount on that side They're real business. Yeah, they're unicorn. I'm not Undermining the business value I'm talking pure influence pound for pound, Tucker versus Ben.
Starting point is 01:42:25 Right, so all I'm saying is, it's a little hard to quantify. I think we're basically saying they're roughly in the same world, right? Like you're not giving me anything empirical here that's showing me that Tucker's blown out. They're basically in the same world, but if you're Tucker,
Starting point is 01:42:37 and let's say you're 65 that you just showed us on Apple, and Ben was what, 18? Well, in the world that they live in, a lot of those people were doing culture podcasts and fashion Podcasts the guy you want to go after is number 18 It's not the it's not the girl do you kind of really I'm trying to really in my mind wrap that around And you know to see if that's what you took out the daily wire those subscribers got to go somewhere I don't think but I don't think Tucker's playing that game. You see for me. I asked I don't know I don't know
Starting point is 01:43:03 I asked three questions and I've been asking it for a while. Does Tucker want to be Roger Ailes or Rupert Murdoch? I don't think so. Does Tucker want to be Rush Limbaugh and just stay in this, and he wants to have the biggest influence politically on the conservative side? Maybe. Does Tucker want to be Churchill to go from a journalist to eventually become a president? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:43:28 I don't think Tucker's goal is to be a billionaire. I quite frankly don't think he gives a shit about being a billionaire. I think he loves his life. On the other side with Ben, I think Ben is also a crusade guy and his loyalty is going to be to his community. As a Jew himself, he's going to be supportive of that. But I think since January, since October 6th or 7th, October 7th event that took place, he has proven, hey, zero compromise here, this is where I stand.
Starting point is 01:43:57 And in some areas, it's hurt him, numbers-wise, and some, it's hurt him. Whereas, I think Tucker is willing to criticize his own side and the other side and that's where Tucker has been able to stay a little bit more fluid and Gain a little bit from all sides versus been isolated himself a little sure I may be wrong Well, what would you like to hear from Ben that you haven't heard when it comes to that? No, there's nothing about here I'm Armenian and I'm a Syrian. Guess what? I'm gonna be pro-Armenian, pro-Assyrian. Yeah. But I'm also gonna give my, by the way, there's a video, somebody made a video on Instagram or Twitter
Starting point is 01:44:32 and a Syrian guy told, well, Patrick, I don't like what he said about Assyrians. That's my brand. My brand isn't that I'm just gonna sit there and not be critical of even my own mistakes, things I've done in the past, things our community's done. I'm gonna be openly talking about it. Our brand isn't to be 100% blinded to whatever. I think when you do that, it's- But Candace works at the Daily Wire, so she says whatever she wants. So Ben, again, Ben is not the CEO,
Starting point is 01:44:59 but she's expressing whatever she wants. And then he's also, he's a pundit, right? So he's allowed to- It's different. I think it's different I think it's different. I think the only reason it's different is you know coming from a perspective of Somebody that you brought over to you, okay that You know your face the face and then how you protect somebody on that side
Starting point is 01:45:24 It's a different story and and you know that was but are you saying he shouldn't criticize her if he thinks she's wrong about something the same way that she will criticize Candice goes after everybody that she disagrees with yeah no I'm not saying he he shouldn't criticize her I think what happened post October 7th was in some ways good, in some ways bad, not as an event, folks. So don't put the good as in it was good for what happened to other people, zero.
Starting point is 01:45:52 That's not what I'm saying. It immediately filtered out people's positions and where they were at, where what was tolerable and what was not tolerable. Can we question some of those? Like for example, I think we had, I don't know if we had on the podcast, when this event happened, I'm like, how do you not know that the Masad, Tim Pullia, how do you not know that this was going a
Starting point is 01:46:13 bit Netanyahu? You mean to tell me you have that good of an intelligence, the best intelligence in the world you guys claim for the longest time, Masad, that God knows how great you got, but you didn't know what happened? Where, no, you can't question that right now. Okay, John Kirby said that now. That was Charlie Kirk. John Kirby said now is not the time.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Charlie Kirk that was on the top. That was Charlie Kirk. That was Charlie Kirk because we was at that time and he was like all over the place like criticism. Was there a stand down order? How do we know there was a stand down order? I think for me it's the only thing where it's like, okay, cool. So that's where they are, that's where he is, that's where she is, that's where they
Starting point is 01:46:44 are, that's where they are. That's where he is. That's where she is. That's where they are. That's where he is Perfect. What a great way to identify exactly where everybody's at after an event. That's all I'm saying the event did that but for me I don't know if Tucker You know Like do I think Rogan's going after anybody? No Rogan's number one in 94 countries. Joe. Number one in 94.
Starting point is 01:47:06 Who is Joe gonna go after? Nobody. You know what Joe, isn't that making my point? Joe has no need to go after. That's why Tucker doesn't need to. So to me- But I'm not totally sure, but he is going after Ben. No, I think Tucker's going after ideas.
Starting point is 01:47:19 And by the way, please keep this in mind. You have to know this. To say that Ben is anti-American, you guys can find me- No, I didn't say that. No, no, that's what he said. That's to know this. To say that Ben is anti-American, you guys can find me exactly. No, I didn't say that. No, no, that's what he said. That's what he said. That's not what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:47:29 He can say that. That's his position. I'm not taking that position. No, no, I understand. But position I'm taking here is, and keep this in mind, I have never spoken to Tucker. I've never shook his hands. I've never been at an event. We spoke at the same event, but I left, he came.
Starting point is 01:47:43 So we've- I've done all those things with him. I like him Yeah, so all I'm saying so this is not and I've spent more time with Ben Yeah, Ben has been on my show. I've been on Ben's show by the way the experience has been great I don't have an issue with the guy, you know, Ben is you know when he's so focused even when we were going before the interview He was on his phone for 20 minutes. He's not really one that's gonna be talking too much He just may have focused about it, but this isn't about one side or the other, this is about the market was able to identify who is who in this conservative
Starting point is 01:48:14 base and I think they're all relevant, I think they're all necessary, but I think the lead dog, there's no question about it, the lead dog in this space amongst the Bens, you know, all the Tuckers, the Jordans, all these guys, it's Tucker. I'm not so sure of that because A, Ben has a company that as you just said is a uniform. As an influencer, not as a business owner, as an influencer, as an influencer meaning like for example. Ben also has Jordan on the daily wire. and influencer meaning like, for example, financially, you could say, Dave Portnoy is like, but I'm not talking about money and business and equity.
Starting point is 01:48:53 I'm talking purely influence when it comes down to this, I think it's Tucker one, I think then it's everybody else. And I think Ben is definitely at two or three spot in that camp. I don't know that we can fully quantify that. I'm not saying you're wrong, by the camp. I don't know that we can fully quantify that. I'm not saying you're wrong, by the way. I don't know that we can fully quantify it, but clearly there's a gray area here
Starting point is 01:49:10 that you might be right. Can I change it for you? You know who's, in my opinion, you know who's the number one most influential Jewish voice ever since October 7th worldwide? John Stewart. Sosnik? Oh God, I hope it's not John Stewart. Out of everybody? John Stewart makes Chuck Choo.
Starting point is 01:49:27 I'm going to tell you what I'm going to say. Number one amongst the Jewish community, you can put Netanyahu and their Stewart and their Shapiro and you can throw everybody in there. You know who I think is number one? I think Ben's number one. Ben Shapiro. I think Ben's number one. I thought you were going to pull a trick out of your mouth. No, no. But what I'm saying to you is, I think after October 7th, he is bigger than Netanyahu is what I'm trying to say. To me, his voice for that community carries more weight than anybody else. That's all I'm saying. Can I ask you guys a policy question here?
Starting point is 01:50:00 Because I actually think you're both right in a certain context. I think it's not even question as far as influence and notoriety, it's Tucker. It's not even a question. From a business side of things, what he's put together at the Daily Wire, most people don't know Jeremy Boring's name. They think it's Ben and the super team he's put together
Starting point is 01:50:18 with Peterson and Walsh and Candace. The third thing that I wanna focus on is the policy though, because this comes down to more policy. Ben, I think, is staying more true to what the Republican Party has meant in the past. Whereas Tucker has sort of adopted the MAGA, even though he talked so much trash about Trump, he sort of adapted sort of the new MAGA policy perspective. And the question of, and this is what I want to get your opinion on, the isolationist perspective versus the interventionist perspective. It's clearly that Tucker has now aligned himself with the non-interventionist camp, the isolationist
Starting point is 01:50:55 camp. Candace has basically come under that as well, where the Republican Party used to stand for free trade, peace through strength, you know, taking out our enemies we have to. Now it's no foreign wars, no funding of wars, no free trade. How much of this is a straight up policy debate about intervention? Well, I would hope that most of it is.
Starting point is 01:51:17 My guess is that that's actually not true, but my hope would be that most of it is. As for intervention or not intervention or that kind of thing, what's interesting is Ben and Ben has pointed this out repeatedly because Tucker has implied and again I'm not sitting here as a lawyer for Ben But Tucker has implied repeatedly that Ben has called for troops on the ground over there and everything else I was just in Israel. There was not one Israeli literally not one. I don't think you could Google all day long I don't think you can find one influential Israeli that has called for troops on the ground
Starting point is 01:51:44 They want the ability to finish a war themselves and they do need some help with weapons But the last thing that they want are American troops there because that will not go well for America It will not go well for them. It won't go there go well for the region Most people post most people post boomer are more isolation in general We realize that the world policing isn't working, nation building clearly isn't working. My personal belief is that we should have allies who we have a common cause with and we believe in democracy with
Starting point is 01:52:11 and have similar values and things of that nature. And Israel certainly in that part of the world is obviously that. But that's like a healthy debate to have. That's why, again, I think when Tucker has said, well, Ben is anti-American, or the implication that he wants his children to die, you can find the clip if you want.
Starting point is 01:52:29 That's where I think he's gone a little bit overboard. They said, I have military-age children. They're gonna send my kids to war. None of your kids are going to war. Right, right. And I think that's where it's gotten a little bit sloppy, where perhaps there's a little more of a business angling to it than just policy. Yeah, I don't I don't know if I
Starting point is 01:52:48 Don't know what Tucker's gonna be doing with TCN. I don't I don't know. I don't know if the I Don't know either. Yeah calling it a network. Yeah, I mean it's Again, I don't know what that brand is going to be and I don't know what they're gonna be signed anyone yet He's raised 15 million bucks and he by the way Everybody and anybody is in talks with them who wants to be a talent who wants to take their talent somewhere They're gonna have the conversation with what Tucker is doing by the way I'm gonna be taking I will say one thing that I completely agree with you on related to this is that watching people sort themselves out now when you get the people who can actually explain what their ideas are and understand history and do it honestly,
Starting point is 01:53:25 and that's a very hard part of the pundit class, because everyone's got their own pressures and why they do things, and some people wanna fight with pundits more, which is exactly why I just laid out my Candice thing the way it is. I'm past that point in my life and career, I don't wanna do that. But the sorting of ideas, when you can really,
Starting point is 01:53:42 you have a good sense of what Tucker believes, you have a good sense of what Ben believes, you have a good sense of what Tucker believes you have a good sense of what? Ben believes you have a good sense of what I believe and what these guys believe right that is good That is really good. So the fact that that has been Has been illuminated to us a little bit more over the past few months I think is quite good doesn't mean that all the other pressure is related to business and clicks and everything else don't exist But I think knowing what people think a little bit more is way better.
Starting point is 01:54:06 For sure, and you know, great, that gets you to say no, yes, absolutely, maybe sometime, absolutely not. You get to pick and choose and go through to people that way, that's the marketplace. I would also say related to the, unfortunately related to Israel, because it brings up a lot of old hatreds
Starting point is 01:54:23 and Jews do tend to be a little more sensitive to you know say genocide than perhaps other groups that watching a lot of the pundit class just pontificate on a bunch of things that they have no idea about and I'm not calling anyone out specifically here but you and you have this you see on mainstream they who have no idea of the history no idea of the British mandate of Palestine in a country called Palestine never existed with the people known as Palestinians who lived in it. And if you look at the Palestinian national soccer team from the 1930s, it was all Jews. And the Palestine Post, which is now the Jerusalem Post, was the Jewish newspaper.
Starting point is 01:54:58 And the Arabs used to boycott Palestine because that's where the Jews lived. Like they have everything so backwards Unfortunately that that I get harder and harder in a time of algorithms for people to tell the truth I'll wrap it up and move to the next story Tom. Did you want to say something? No Echo Dave go look up at your history. It was massive Jordanian Immigration of people who then identified themselves as Palestinians. Well, there is apartheid in the Middle East. It's in Jordan and Lebanon. Do you know that in Lebanon, you can Google this right now, there are 30 some odd jobs
Starting point is 01:55:29 that Palestinians cannot have in Lebanon. There's no job as an Arab in Israel that you can't have. Jordan is run by the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, and they have about 60% Palestinians who do not have equal rights as the rest of their citizens. So a lot of this is just, it's just confusion. And then I think it's attached now to the fact that Jews are a little sensitive to being exterminated
Starting point is 01:55:52 75 years after the Holocaust. I'll say this and we'll move on to the next story. The one thing that has happened in the last six months is the likes of Candice whose show and eyeballs it's like almost every week she's trending. Every single week Candice is trending. It's not easy to do by the way. This is a woman that just had her third kid and you know doing the show and having the family and all this other stuff and it's like her husband you got to go and travel back and visit family there and you got to come back here and you got to do this
Starting point is 01:56:26 and you got to do that. Her shows exploded. Tucker has obviously been exploding but even more because he is willing to go on the road talk to anybody. It almost seems like he's very accessible to anybody. Look, he'll get on a plane go to Romania and then he'll go to Russia, and then he'll go over here. That takes a lot of work. Most people don't want to do that. And he's got a family, and he's got the kids, and he's got the...
Starting point is 01:56:52 So you've got to give him respect. So when I watch data and numbers, how the market reacts purely based on data, you'll see that taking place. And I think both of them, the audience is saying whether they agree or not, they want to hear what Candice has to say, they want to hear what Tucker has to say. And that's very hard to consistently keep. Sometimes you can be hated, but you still keep your audience. Sometimes you can be loved and you still keep your audience.
Starting point is 01:57:15 There's people who are loved, but nobody wants to see them anymore. And there are people that are hated that they no longer want to listen to those guys anymore. If your loved audience still wants to watch you and your hated audience still curious to come back to you, you're winning and I think those two guys are winning. So it'll be interesting to see what happens here moving forward. I think Ben necessary, I think Candace necessary, I think Tucker necessary, I think all these voices are necessary in a marketplace and they keep killing it. Okay, next story to get into.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Three billionaires came out of nowhere supporting Trump, okay? So first of all, Home Depot founder Bernie Marcus issues battle cry to GOP, unite behind Trump. Billionaire John Paulson to hold mega donor fundraiser for Donald Trump, okay? Nelson Pelz from the guy that's trying to get a board seat on Disney or he has one or something's going on, he's a very powerful guy to vote for Donald Trump over fears of Joe Biden's mental condition.
Starting point is 01:58:12 Back to back to back, I think all these announcements were on the same exact day. Do you think this is going to be a trend of more people, Tom, coming out publicly supporting Trump against Biden? Absolutely. I think what's happening now is the primaries are over and the primary is a time where we can come together with a variety of candidates such as DeSantis put himself out there, ran a campaign, Nikki Haley ran a campaign, a lot of people ran a campaign, Doug ran a campaign, you know, the guy
Starting point is 01:58:39 that we met out there, you know. Oh, Doug with the big eyebrows, yeah. Yeah, exactly. And who, you you know was up there campaigning even though he had I guess didn't ACL or something You really you've got really hurt, but all that time of expect inspection is done Life is about to get f-ing serious and so people are coming out. We're come to the election We know who the two guys are no Trump didn't get get um held back or or use these legal techniques to disqualify him he wasn't held back he's still here that was part of the calculus that was in the Haley camp absolutely it
Starting point is 01:59:17 was a little piece of the calculus that was in the DeSantis camp to be fair that hey he may not even make it there and so now they're coming out Bernie Marcus is out John Paulson's out Nelson Pels is out and they're all out and I think you're gonna see more of this PBD as the election gets closer it's getting real people are looking what really matters they're looking at who the real candidates are and they're voting with their wallets because it's time for them to stand up and take a stand and guess what they're added to we talked about this earlier. You know what Bernie Marcus, John Paulson
Starting point is 01:59:47 and Nelson Peltz have in common? They're all Jewish. And they're all like, let's fucking go. You guys wanna have an attitude? You want Chuck Schumer to go over there and talk shit about Israel? Guess what? Now the money, you talking about the vote?
Starting point is 02:00:00 Dave, now guess what? The money's going for Trump. So I don't know, I know Marcus from Home Depot. I don't know this Nelson Peltz guy, but the point on the mental condition, I mean, does anyone at this table believe that Joe Biden is running the country? Do you believe that the ideas that come out
Starting point is 02:00:13 of this administration and the final calls, a man who not only fumbles everything he says and can't read a teleprompter and slurs literally every single sentence that he says, and yes, they can pump him up with some stuff and get him to be semi-functional at certain hours of the day. Do you think he's actually,
Starting point is 02:00:29 the same guy who also often at the end of press conferences says, oh, I'm not supposed to say that, or I'm gonna get in trouble if I say that. Does anyone here honestly believe he, yes, I believe he is the president, meaning his name is on the desk, but does anyone actually believe that what is happening with this country is being driven by a cogent Joe Biden And I don't think there's no I don't even think you can get I would recommend go try to get five Democrats
Starting point is 02:00:55 Legit Democrats that will honestly put their name to that and you barely can find and I give you a scary I mean That's not really the question. The question is what's going on with the Bern, with these billionaires and regardless of who's there, Dave, and I agree, I think there's a shadow behind him that's pulling the levers, but regardless of who's there, these guys don't want it and they're all unifying there. It's the, you know, it's time. It's time to vote. It's time to get serious.
Starting point is 02:01:20 Time to take a side. Well, the reason I mentioned it though is because because I think if he wasn't so obviously broken down, if he wasn't so obviously not Joe Biden of 20 years ago, I don't know that everyone would get there. I think people are like, oh, it's not just that the policies are freaking horrible and the border is open and Bidenomics makes no sense and everything else.
Starting point is 02:01:38 It's also that he gets up there and there's no confidence. You watch him, I'm sure all of you guys have had relatives with dementia. My grandmother had it. And when I was doing standup in New York, my days were a little free because I was working at night, so I would take her to the elder care doctors and the geriatric doctors.
Starting point is 02:01:52 His behavior is exactly the same. And you know that thing when they start talking and you're just waiting for them to get to the end of the sentence. You're just praying that they get there because you don't want to have to, oh, grandma, you know, you lost it, or blah, blah, blah. It's like we're all doing that with this guy. Yeah, you don't want to have to oh grandma, you know, you lost it They were blah blah blah
Starting point is 02:02:05 It's like we're all doing that with this guy and pretending that we're not doing it and the media is running cover You saw that Chuck Scarborough clip where he said he's sharper than ever. Yeah, I have on you, dude Yeah, what do they are chanting for more years? Yeah Something even scarier Because I think there's a lot of people out there that would agree with you that basically saying there's no way he's running this country. That's crazy. He's probably got a team of handlers. You know, number one, we learned during the state of the union address, when you set the bar so low that he can't even tie his shoes, he can't tie two sentences together.
Starting point is 02:02:36 When he gets out there and basically yells at everybody for an hour and a half, it sort of lessens the argument that he's not capable of doing that. But here's what I'll give you. Because we were all sitting there at lunch. I won give you, because we were all sitting there at lunch. I won't say the name. We were sitting there at lunch and he said, you want to know what's even scarier. I'm one phone call away from the guy that's basically running the show within the Biden administration. The scariest thing is that it's actually him making the decision.
Starting point is 02:03:01 So you would think otherwise, there's other people making decisions. He basically made this a very credible source here. You were there basically said no, no, no, no It's actually him making the decisions that might be even scarier that that actually is even scarier But this thing where he gets to the end of these press conferences and he says oh if I say that I'm in They told me no Pat your your names all over this place. You're in charge of this operation If you were to flub something during the show, do you get in trouble with somebody? Do they take you out back
Starting point is 02:03:29 and hit you over the head with a shovel? Or are you actually in charge of this place? I mean, you can see the big teleprompter in front of me in the big font. I have to read that. They don't type that up there. I don't, you know, I have to follow the rules. We have to give you names of the Irish people
Starting point is 02:03:43 that, you know, to remember the names, to remember to thank people. He's my English tutor on this side. Yes, amid these certain problems. For years I've been working on this. And Dave, going off what you said, the fact that, and I 100% agree with you, no doubt, when he says the they and the them and I can't, and that's why I think they all had to go after Trump because that they, Trump didn need they trump did trump ever go hey guys
Starting point is 02:04:05 I gotta get off the stage for two hours because they told me I gotta get off right never it's him Look how many of you have had dogs that have passed away while you've had the dog, right? We've all most people have been through that, you know at the end you can do an awful lot of stuff to keep that animal Alive, yeah, and you can drug them with all sorts of stuff and we did that with with my dog Who is 16 years old and basically they said to us the vet said you can drug them with all sorts of stuff and we did that with with my dog who is 16 years old and basically They said to us the vet said you can give her these medications But basically it'll extend it a little bit and then at some point Her insides are just gonna explode like the organs will litter and it seems to me
Starting point is 02:04:37 They are juicing him to get him out there and be functional and they are just praying it gets to November 5th They are just praying because other I mean, you know, they have contingency plans, obviously, right? I mean, they're not running Kamala, obviously, the Gavin thing, you know, for you may say the whole DeSantis thing was a disaster. But if DeSantis did one good thing in the entire campaign, he basically destroyed Gavin Newsom. We don't hear about Gavin anymore, because that debate was so Absolutely a win for DeSantis
Starting point is 02:05:05 But you know that there are plans for he could break a hip while we are doing this show right now He most people fall down the stairs. He keeps he seems to fall upstairs like that could happen right now We're one flight of stairs With my friend Dave you're talking about the DeSantis Newsome debate. From a policy standpoint, it was not even a question that DeSantis won. But if you poll the general people that don't know shit about policy, they're going to take a look at slick back hair Newsome and think that he won. I mean, we haven't heard much of him since then.
Starting point is 02:05:41 What do you mean? He's been doing interview after interview. He's out there. I'm not going to. I don't want to do that. I knew some, knew some, but I'll say this about Biden. Yeah. You know, we're using the pronouns things. They, them, they, them, if they and them actually had that much control, he wouldn't be running again. Meaning unfortunately or fortunately he's running because he made the decision as a sitting president United States I'm running again so if there was people the coddlers the handlers that were really in control if he would have
Starting point is 02:06:13 been dismissed well I think it's partly because they made a deal with the devil by bringing Kamala on who was basically polling at zero at that yes so they made a deal with the devil okay we're gonna get Biden to be president and pray that it gets that far. And Biden, you know, one of the other things is when you're in cognitive decline, you don't know it necessarily. So he may not be fully aware.
Starting point is 02:06:32 So I'm not saying he didn't make the decision. I believe that he, I don't know, I assume there's a document they have to sign saying they're running again or file. Like, yeah, whatever they have to do, eat a child, whatever. I'm not saying he didn't do that. I'm not saying he didn't do that I'm not saying he didn't do that But the idea that he's the driving force behind the ideas of the administration
Starting point is 02:06:51 And I think in many ways he's a perfect avatar for what America has become we're confused We don't know what we are. We don't stand for anything and Let's go to the next let's go to the next story. So We do have a solution with all the stuff that's going on, because we can sit here and stress out about this, but if President Biden's watching this right now, this next testimony we have of Neuralink, what it did for a patient, if President Biden would be willing to put the Neuralink, there could be a lot of advancement being made. And Rob, if you don't mind just showing a part of this so the audience sees the power this thing's got 15 million views right now
Starting point is 02:07:29 Rob go ahead and play this clip so I'm sure you're trying to find the right place to go to Vinny do you know where's the right place to go to you have it you have it controlling the chess game with his mind he's controlling brain chess game with his mind go ahead Rob he is a long-term quadriplegic. Yeah. Do you want to explain a little bit what's going on here? Yeah, so I love playing chess, and so this is one of the things
Starting point is 02:07:53 that y'all have enabled me to do, something that I wasn't able to really do much the last few years, especially not like this. I had to use like a mouth stick and stuff but now it's all it's all being done with my brain if you all see the cursor moving around the screen that's that's all me oh that's all him you know dirty thoughts and just coming up on his computer like no no no I don't stop thinking of porn I mean do gobble mean, but but here's the slippery slope.
Starting point is 02:08:28 This is cool. God, God bless him. He's a quadriplegic. He's being he could play chess with his mind. But bro, now that it's somebody can control what you're thinking and like, that's a scary, scary slippery slope that who's whoever's in control that neurolink, if he's not a quadriplegic, you're just trying to enhance your life, says, hey, go and kill such and such. And you're like, oh my god, I don't even want to do it, but you just do it. Where's that? What do you think about this?
Starting point is 02:08:53 Because I think there's a part of you that's optimistic that this kind of technology is not available for certain groups of people. I think this is phenomenal. I mean, let's use a real, like a real world example. Suppose this is a high functioning engineer who has a car accident and unfortunately ends up like this. His brain, his education, his experience wants to be a productive member of society. And Elon Musk has given him an opportunity to come back and be that and support his family
Starting point is 02:09:22 and to return to a certain level of productivity if not and we don't know where this goes could this lead to you know mobility we're talking about brain not you know repairing you know the spinal column but I think this is fabulous that someone like Elon Musk has got the vision to make it happen Anything good can be used for bad, you know guns can be used to defend your home And then bad people can rob a liquor store, but I think this is phenomenal and I think it's wonderful They've already in the same sentiment. Oh, absolutely I mean look, you know
Starting point is 02:09:57 it's so funny because we can talk about fighting over politics all the time or whether boys or girls or whether we should allow cannibals into The country and it's like look what humans Actually can do if we could get through the BS for one moment. Not only can we in essence now Like base, I mean this is telepathy now in real time, right using technology But we could also as Elon talks about we could go to Mars We could go to other galaxies like and we will by the way We will get through this technological adolescence that we're in and we're gonna do incredible things. This is this is a marker This is a moment. I think everyone will remember or look back on this moment seeing this going
Starting point is 02:10:33 Wow, this is the thing we're about to unlock and if we could only get through all of the BS of Constantly trying to destroy everything that we know to be good and guess what? To just add it to the stuff that we're always talking about it's like Who cares if the engineers who built this were gay or black or trans or any good point? You think Elon was like and I get a black trans woman to build me this telepathy machine Or do you think he said can I get the best fucking engineers in the history of the world? Yeah to break every barrier that humans could have ever known and that's why we have to get through That's why woke has been so dangerous because it eliminates the ability to do
Starting point is 02:11:08 things like to make point. I'll just shout out to Elon Musk. I wonder if that the haters will now be silenced for this great deed he's doing for people who are completely disabled, completely have major health issues. It's easy to criticize Elon Musk when he basically takes over Twitter or X and it's now this right wing platform, it's a free speech platform. You know, if you don't have a Tesla, you can't really appreciate Tesla as much.
Starting point is 02:11:34 If he's doing things in rockets in the sky going to Mars, this is actually changing people's lives for the better. I wonder if his haters will step up and congratulate him. But he could have had a black trans lesbian. I can't believe it. They missed a shot. Yeah, I think so. Let's go to the next.
Starting point is 02:11:49 Tom, I'm coming to you with this one here to see what's going on. So Fed holds rate steady and maintains three cuts coming sometime this year. CNBC, the interest rate steady within a range of 5.25 and 5.5, maintaining the highest level in the last 23 years. The central bank signaled three quarter point cuts by the end of 2024 according to projections from Federal Open Market Committee. Fed officials revised the GDP growth projections upwards for 2024, anticipating a 2.1% annualized rate up from previous estimates of 1.4.
Starting point is 02:12:21 In December, unemployment rate forecasts saw a slight decrease to 4% While core inflation projects rose to 2.6 a point two percent point increase from before Tom What's what's going on here because a market exploded yesterday? Yeah, so we have to remember that the stock market loves Stability and they love to know what the money is going to cost. And so, the market's going to go up based on the short-term future, which is six to nine months, as far as the market's concerned. And so, the market likes that. The market also likes, ladies and gentlemen, unfortunately, it likes layoffs, because layoffs mean temporary pop-in profits usually for the companies doing those layoffs.
Starting point is 02:13:01 What it means for you, me, and everyone is that mortgage rates are probably going to be pretty stable, maybe down about 3 quarters of a point to a point in December from where they are right now, but they're not going to drop two points. You can go refi things and have that gap you would want to do it. And there's a thing called the Fed. Whenever you hear the Fed, the Fed is a thing, but it's a thing made up of the Fed Board of Governors.
Starting point is 02:13:23 And Rob, do you have that chart? And there's what's called the dot chart. And the dot chart is where we get to see how the Fed Board of Governors are going to vote about the future of money. And if you look at the far left-hand side here, 2024, see all those dots right at 4.75% is where they are? Well, right now we're at, you know, five and a half, five and a quarter on the rates that banks borrow money from the government so that then they can, you know, loan it to you and me and to businesses. And see the dot chart is all right there which says that they are all of the opinion based
Starting point is 02:13:57 on the condition of the economy that we don't need to drop rates crazy. So that's, they're going to drop it probably three times. And it has implications for our election. Rob, do you have the calendar? Here's the dates of when the Fed is going to get together. This is the Fed website. Yeah, this is what I wanted to see. Thanks for bringing this up, Tom. And there we go. So March 19th and 20th, we just made statements, that's all they made. April 30th, May 1st, June 11th and 12th, July 30th, 31st, September 17th. Most people like me and Jamie Dimon, and he's usually right about the Fed, believe that there's going to be a September and June quarter point cut
Starting point is 02:14:38 coming with that little asterisk, which is economic data reports. And so folks are saying that they're really looking at the Fed going June, September, November, because what the Fed is saying, inflation is hanging right now about 3% and they're saying that jobs have been brisk and GDP. Well, GDP hot and job growth a little slow right now without rampant unemployment usually are things that heats up the economy and keeps inflation and so it looks like we're gonna get two or three cuts on these dates that go right into the election so who's taking credit for that and what that does to the polling? It's gonna be
Starting point is 02:15:18 big. It's gonna be big. They have to, by the way, the DNC in August, so April, May, June, July. So depending on when, if they lower it three times those three months, the DNC in August will be on fire. Just want to let you know this. The Fed's saying April 30th and the 1st, probably not. So everybody says June looks to be a lock right now. In other words, these guys take February, April and August off. That's what they do because those are the only times they don't talk. They end October. I got to add October
Starting point is 02:15:52 to it as well. So interesting when they come back and do this. But we'll see what's going to happen with the marketplace. Right now there's a lot going on, but this was a great podcast to those of you that said you wanted Tom to have his own show he does and guess what? 3,700 of you voted and Tom's channel if you can refresh it Rob it went from 29,400 subs to 33,000 nice, but we need another 1,400 to reach the 5,000 goal so click on a link below go subscribe to tom's channel biz doc okay he's got content coming out on a weekly basis would love to see this channel get two hundred thousand subs aside from that we may be done here with Dave Rubin but there's sauce cast
Starting point is 02:16:35 with Adam and Dave later on this afternoon so make sure you tune into sauce cast and meanwhile if you love to laugh you can always find Vinny under, by the way, unusual suspect that is biggest live yesterday. 1200 plus people watched unusual suspect yesterday. It was freaking insane. 12,000 unusuals. And I'm performing, Pat, April 11th at the Miami Improv. Sick.
Starting point is 02:16:54 You guys, we're going. Of course. You're going. If you're going to be in the area. I will be there. Please. Dave's going to be there. Pat's going to be there.
Starting point is 02:17:02 All right. Gang, have a good one. We may or may not do a pod tomorrow. We'll let you know if we do it'll be a surprise, but most likely we'll do it next week. Dave, thanks for coming out again. Appreciate you. Have a great weekend everybody. Take care. Bye bye, bye bye.
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