PBD Podcast - Taylor Swift Endorses Kamala, Trump Harris Debate Winner, President Jamie Dimon | PBD Podcast | 470| PBD Podcast | Ep. 470

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick, Tom Ellsworth, and Vincent Oshana discuss who the winner was of the Trump Harris debate, Taylor Swift's Kamala endorsement failure, Chase CEO Jamie Dimon's political future, and Shannon Sharpe accidentally live streaming a romantic encounter on Instagram! 📕 PBD MEET & GREET: https://bit.ly/47u3rq3 🏦 "THE VAULT 2024" OFFICIAL RECORDING: https://bit.ly/4ejazrr 📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3Zn2Moj⁠⁠⁠ 👕 VT "2024 ELECTION COLLECTION": ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XD7Bsm⁠⁠⁠ 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XC5ftN⁠⁠⁠ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ze3RUM⁠⁠⁠ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/47iOGGx⁠⁠⁠ 🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4e0FgCe⁠⁠⁠ 📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3MGK5EE⁠⁠⁠ 📕 CHOOSE YOUR ENEMIES WISELY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XnEpo0⁠⁠⁠ 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4d5nYlU⁠⁠⁠ 🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XC8L7k⁠⁠⁠ 📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3XjSSRK⁠⁠⁠ 💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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but this is the picture that says Shannon Sharp looking over his phone realizing he's on live. So we are live. Apparently Shannon Sharp had a Kim Kardashian moment and we're going to talk about whether it's intentional or not. Shea Shea. It'll make you famous. The reality of it is he's trending 223,000 tweets about him. So if it was a publicity stunt, it's working, right? A couple things here that we've got to talk about.

Taylor Swift, obviously the results of her endorsing Kamala story here says Hollywood reported 338,000 people showed up to vote.gov after the Kamala Harris endorsement to vote. So that's a number right there. We'll talk about that. Harris supporter Usher encourages everyone to make their own individual choice. He was being asked a question by Joey Behardt, I believe on The View, and you guys have to hear how he answers it. Caitlin Clark liked the post of Taylor Swift, doesn't mean anything. PWC, laying off 1,800

people, this is the first time they've done this since 2009, and Starbucks new CEO targets hectic store, overwhelming menus, and of course we've got to talk about club shay-shay, different kind of club shay-shay. The earring in Kamala's, you know, is this a real earring? Come on, there's no way. There's some people on both sides. Vinny, Tom have some stuff to say about it. Adam and I, you know, we'll give our thoughts on this here on what's going on.

We'll have some fun with it. We'll show you a clip on some of the analysis on the debate that took place. Madda had a few things to say from MSNBC. She said, Trump was unable to finish a thought. He was very angry, is what she said. Kamala Harris wants a second debate with Trump. Trump said, why would I do a rematch? Trump dismisses another debate with Harris.

Trump demands, this is an interesting one, Trump demands ABC be shut down for rigged debate. He wants it to shut down, is what he says. Now, stock market, how does it react after the debate? Market explains, expert explains why US stock futures went down with Harris as a debate victor. Keep in mind, stock future doesn't look bright with Kamala Harris, you know, after the debate. Anyways, Tom's got some thoughts on that.

That's the headline. Drudge says debate was the end for Trump. That's what Drudge said. Drudge. Drudge said that. Yeah. Bizarre moment. Biden puts on a Trump hat at a fire station. Everybody said that's fake. We'll verify if it's real or not. Musk, now flirting with Taylor Swift, offers to give Taylor Swift a child after she endorsed Harris. Rogan floats. Which one's going to offer more violence, if Trump wins or if Harris wins? As the winner, there's going to be some madness, is what he says. Wall Street Journal.

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number one break dancer in the world She's ranked number one breaking news, which is very very big. Anyways, you were break dancer back Watch I watch beat Street I watch you know, but breaking Sit forget it, but I wasn't a break dance I could see you being the guy that gets in the middle being like alright guys get you sorry like yeah I'm kind of like somebody's about to go maybe that but i can't claim i was a break dancer that's probably more tom than me i just hope those videos never come there's tom right yeah looking at right there by the way this saturday i am doing a book signing at local for lauderdale for those of you guys that

want to copy the academy and you can't find it at Barnes and Noble because it's selling out. If you go to the Barnes and Noble at Fort Lauderdale, that is the address, Rob. If you go a little higher, 2051 North Federal Highway, Fort Lauderdale, 3305. I will be there at noon signing books. They also have copies of Choose Your Enemies Wisely and Your Next Five Moves. You buy the book, I'll sign it. All of us are going to be there. You'll meet a bunch of guys that will be there at the bookstore. I'd love to see Barnes and Noble look outside saying, what the hell is going on with all

these value changes showing up? Anyways, we'll see you guys there. And then also for those who missed the vault conference, ridiculous conference, the recording is officially available for those of you around the world that couldn't attend. Now you can go to Rob. Can you put the link below or is there a QR code? I'll put the link. If you can put the link in chat or if you can put the link in comment section, go get it. I think it's like, I don't know, 20 hours of content. I mean, one of the days I went 13 and a half hours straight. There's a lot of stuff about raising money.

There's a lot of stuff on strategy. Will Gidera, I mean, it's just insane, insane event that we had. But the recording is officially available for the vault. Having said that, let's get right into it. Rob, if you don't mind, let's just start off with Kamala Harris wants a second debate, right, with Trump. And Trump said, why would I do a rematch? If you have the video of Kamala first saying she wants to do another debate, play that first and it will go to Trump. Is this the, do you have that or? So I don't have, it was Kamala's campaign that stated that, but I do have Donald Trump responding when asked if he would do.

Okay, go ahead. Let's play this clip. Let's see what Trump has to say about the second debate. Our campaign is saying tonight, Washington Post is reporting that she wants a second debate. What's your answer? That's because she lost. She wants it because she lost.

Do you have an answer? Well, I don't know. I have to think about it, but if you won the debate, I sort of think maybe I shouldn't do it. Why should I do another debate? She immediately said, we want another debate. You know what happens when you're a prize fighter and you lose? You immediately want a new fight.

You want a rematch. You want a rematch. You want a rematch. The guy that won is sort of happy and thinking about it. Would you be inclined to say yes? Maybe if it was a fair network, I would do that. I think let Hannity moderate it. Like I did Newsom and Rondo Santas. You would be fair actually.

I would be fair. You want to know the truth. I'd let you both talk. I'd let you go at each other. I thought they would be fair. They weren't. But truth. I'd let you both talk. I'd let you go at each other. I thought they would be fair. They weren't. But I felt very comfortable. We have the best policy.

She has no policy. You see Vivek in the back of the way right here. Tim Scott. Yeah. So what's the other one that you have, Rob? Is that a different clip or is that the same thing? Same question. This is just him later in the afternoon.

He's asked by reporters if he'll debate Harris. This is hours later. This is the next day because it's light. So it's got to be the next day because if it was that same night, I don't know how the sum came out that quickly. So this is the following day. Correct. OK, go ahead and play it. So you're probably into Australia.

You know, when you when you don't win, it's like a fighter. When a fighter is a bad fight, gets knocked out or loses the fight. So he's saying the same thing to the report. He's saying he knocked her out. And by the way, all those Secret Service guys were like 6'4", 6'5". Yeah, they officially got buffer, bigger and stronger and more intimidating. I don't know how that happens. And they had gender change.

What do you think about the position he's taking? Saying he won and Adam, what do you think about it? His position saying only the loser ever wants to rematch, which in boxing, that's kind of accurate, right? The loser wants to rematch, which in boxing, that's kind of accurate, right? The loser wants to rematch, not the winner. Here's the reality. Did Trump win the debate? It depends who you ask.

And it depends how you're judging the fight. You know how you said, styles make fights? You brought up something very interesting yesterday when you talked about when an alpha man has to debate an alpha woman. And I'm not saying that she's the alpha woman but she's at least pretending to be one on TV. You don't really know how to go after this type of person especially you know, all of a sudden she's black and I didn't ever know she was black and like all right that's probably not going to work. I don't know man. Listen I did the

whole scorecard speaking of boxing just you know you're round I from a listen. I did the whole scorecard. Speaking of boxing, just, you know, you'll round by round by round. And we did the live debate. We had 150,000 people watch it was insane, by the way, respect to the team. But we went one by one economy, immigration, abortion, tariffs, fracking, Israel, Gaza, Ukraine, January 6, 2020, Afghanistan, race, black, Obamacare, one by one by one by one. I had it six three Seven four depending on how many topics you think there really were but I'm judging it. Here's where I went wrong here We're gonna here it is guys. I was judging based on policy All right. Great. I like that policy better. Nah, not so much. She killed it on abortion. I'll give her that immigration

It's not even close. She shouldn't even be able to run for the disaster she's done at the border. But the one thing I overlooked was the concept of vibes and joy. And you know, they came out with an article a couple of weeks ago, like joy is not a strategy New York times, but is it, is it a strategy? So you became joyful all of a sudden. I didn't because I see through the BS. I just, I can't do the cackling thing. I don't know. Joy is not a strategy or is it? So, you know,

here you have, I mean, the juxtaposition that she tried to basically put out there was he's the old, I'm the new. Somehow I'm the change candidate, yet I'm just running the remix of what Biden did. There's not a lot of separation there. He's the darkness. I'm the light, right? He's the past. I'm the future, present, future, what have you. And the reality is joy might be a campaign strategy because remember on the debate when our friends said, well, you know, you just got to look at the policies and they're not trying to look at the policies in the debate. She was joyful.

I'm saying that that is the vibe that she's putting out there. Because if you're judging it based on policy, straight up, I'm saying. So you're saying the vibe she put out there on the debate, she was being joyful. What I'm saying is that is their overall campaign message. It's just like, come on guys. That's the flag they had at the DNC. But if you want my exact- She was not joyful at the debate.

I'm talking- Do I, do you, listen, can I, do I think, do, do, did I like her campaign? No, that's not what I'm asking. No, what I'm gonna get, answer is the following. No, talking. I'm talking. Listen, can I do I think did I like her campaign? No, that's not what I'm asking. What I'm going to get answer is the following. No, no, as far as the winner, the loser. Okay, okay. Stick to the stick to the debate because you're right. The joy is the strategy, their marketing. Yeah. But are you saying that translated in the way she debated against Trump? Listen, unless it's an actual boxing fight, there's no clear winner or loser per se, unless you do a Biden and just completely eliminate yourself. But how do I determine who won or lost the debate?

As always, I'm going to go straight to Vegas. Prior to the debate, it was 52% Trump, 48% Kamala. Run the numbers. Now, today, not my opinion, go to Vegas. It has flipped. It is now 52% Kamala, 48% Trump. That's a different argument than joy though. What I'm asking is if joy, Rob, can you pull up the Vegas outs for Tom, your thoughts? So there's a couple things. First of all, for the debate, all these perception polls of who won or not is like national polling. But the issues and did the independent and moderate undecided voters move?

That is the question of the debate. We can get through all of the fog of war of who won the debate. And you know what? She looked better than people thought. And Trump had a couple opportunities for to really hit hard He didn't take them and so you could analyze all that and you'd be right and the perceptions that are out there It's like 55 45 that she did better in the bait. However, Rob, there's four little charts I want to look at what where did you get that 55 45? No, I mean I've seen I've seen a variety of things

I saw on drudge 55 45 I saw on Several others yesterday. It was like 60-40. 60%. She won the debate? Yeah. But it was like won the debate. It's the perception of it. Well, you can find it. ABC News had a poll. Drudge had a poll up there. But when you step back a day later and they start releasing this, the red line is the conservative line. The yellow line was the independent line. And these are people indicating how they felt during this. Harris is a radical left liberal. What did the undecided do? They were with the conservatives. Next chart.

Tom, first tell us what color is what? Oh, blue is the voters that had pre-identified for Harris. Red is the voters pre-identifying for Trump. And the yellow was people that had said they were independent. And they're indicating during the debate, who are you leaning with? So yellow is independent. That's it, Tom. Go for it.

Keep going. So now, then, Trump hits Harris for letting criminals into the U.S. While he's saying that, that's what they are saying. They are touching meters to tell you how they know next one watch this. Oh Show us the bottom there. Can we see the bottom of that one? That's as far down as I can scroll that economy Okay, go the next one so we can see that there's four Yep took three and a half years to implement our promises. Look where they went

And so when you step back, we really want to know how did the independents feel and did they move? And there's some early statistical analysis for the independents. Reuters ran a focus group and the people that were undecided were breaking seven to two. Seven for Trump and two said I'm still undecided. And so that's what I look at and I'm looking forward to about a week from now where we get detailed polling that comes out from some of the professional respected pollsters. Vinny? You know where I stand I think. You know when people are you're just a blind loyalist Donald Trump. No, no I'm more about the vision and what he

stands for and how much he loves the country. From that being said, from some of that, Tom, some of that wasn't Republican, some of that is kind of in the middle. If you saw that and you didn't know any better, excuse me, Kamala Harris won that debate. Okay. And then you start, people start to ask questions as if like to why, I mean, number one, ABC, you watch that debate and we said it live on air. It was three against one. First of all, I don't think he should ever, ever have agreed to, and I get it, he likes to get into the fight. He's a great debater.

But in this situation, especially when it's crunch time, two months left for the election, why even agree to something like that? We saw what was the guy's name, Tom, the moderator? David Muir. David Muir. And then PBD, I told you before we started this, Lindsay Davis, which I just found out, she is a sorority sister of Kamala Harris. Okay. Alpha Kappa, Alpha sorority. And there's a- Alpha, she's

an Alpha. Yeah, of course she's Alpha. And PBD, this is her commenting during the inauguration of Biden about the relationship and about a pearl necklace. If it's okay, Rob, can play this? Lindsay Davis, Robin Roberts, is the sorority thing. I don't understand at all. So you have to explain it to everybody. You're sorority's sister of Kamala Harris. Right. Well, you know, pearls are a symbol of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated, which she pledged while she was at Howard University. And the strand of pearls is symbolic of the unity and the sisterhood, okay? But on this day, there's actually a Facebook page of women who say, wear pearls on January 20th, 2021, and hundreds of thousands of women are apparently wearing pearls in support of

them. So they were what? They were sorority sisters of the same college at Howard. But so going to the- And her and her husband have a close relationship with the head of ABC who had introduced Doug to Kamala. So, yeah. So, so think about it. It's just a whirlwind and I get PBT, you don't have to go too far in the math to figure out who she's voting for. Exactly. But, but to agree to that, I get it. He wants to get into the fight, could trumple debate anybody. He's not scared. I just feel Pat from an outside,

if I was just looking in, she was, she was And just randomly, have you ever, you've been hearing her speak for what, Pat, the past 10 years, right? We've been seeing her, she talks like she's talking to children, hello everybody. This night, she was on point. She knew exactly what to say. Not on point, as much as scripted. It sounded very, very scripted. And to be honest with you, what I'm saying is, I felt as if, you know, for the past, for instance, if Adam was taking tests and he got F's and F's and F's and he just kept failing in school and kept failing in school, then he takes the SAT, which this was the SAT, and he hit this much of a home run, one would probably tend to ask questions as well. How did this happen? We've seen her in all those primary debates. We've seen tons of examples.

Tom Zivert against Tulsi Gabbard, against all these people. She's just not good. This night, I don't know if she prayed to God. I don't know because if, so are you guys going somewhere? Are you going to the earring place? Are you saying somebody was feeding her something? Because that earring thing is something that a lot of people are talking about. Rob, if you want to pull up that earring, is that the one or is that a different one? I think I said you want to. Tom, where do you stand with the earring thing? Because some people are saying that she was being fed things.

So there is more than one news outlet that is talking about these particular earrings that are audio earrings made by Nova in Germany, Nova H ones. And the company talks about that these would be things you could use in a debate. And so people are connecting dots and saying, oh, wow. And they also point out that she had heavy, heavy hair spray on the right hand side, which kept her hair covering her ear throughout the debate. And so that's what they're saying. Yeah.

So a lot of people are saying, is it possible that she was doing this? And there's an awful lot of chatter. Let's face it, the internet and X can be a lot of stories and a lot of angles and a lot of accusations come up, but it just seemed like there was an awful lot that came up on this and the photographic evidence looked pretty interesting. I don't know. But she kept the right side of her head pretty covered and she had that.

Or, I don't know, Pat. Or she actually prepared and stayed on script and spent weeks preparing for this. And it looks a lot different than she ever did in any of the primary debates. Where are you at with this? Zero to 100. Give me a score on what you ever did in any of the primary debates. Where are you at with this? Zero to 100. Give me a score on what you think the level of credibility on this is.

I'm actually 50-50 because there's a lot of people that are posting that, you know, that I've never seen them, like, go way off the edge and post crazy, crazy things. And I'm like, wow, you're retweeting this or you're commenting about it. And that was surprising to me that people that not normally do this, Pat, we're doing it. But I'm, I'm, my jury's out. I'm like, that's a high number. Okay, then put me, put me 40 60. I'm not, I'm not there. I like that. Tom. Let me just say,

I am damn curious to see so many people and the company that makes these. I just said, Rob, that, that Instagram thing that I sent you, there's a quick video of the girl that's at that company right here. Before you play that Rob, but PPD, ready for this? 50-50 Tom, I'm right where you're at. It's not as if the Democrats don't cheat. So to have, by the way, besides the bias of what we saw right in front of our faces of them fact checking Trump, which was BS

Or just handing out questions to their candidate previously Previously what like is it? How do you know that? They did that. You're saying they probably did I'm talking about Donna Brazil and yeah Oh yeah, yeah That's exactly where I was going. That's my point It is no secret that the mainstream media has been in lockstep on the narrative and has been supporting her and then I look at the way the debate was conducted I mean be objective take an objective person that says hey bring a bring a

debate teacher from Mars who has never seen this planet and have them look at it and he would say what are the moderators that's what I just pulled up can you go to that Rob that's the earrings that they're claiming she wore Tiffany so that's the double pearl hinged earrings in sterling silver. That's the link. I'm reading this article from Daily Beast and Yahoo News. Both of them linked that earring saying that's the one she wore. Now that's what they're saying. And then the other one is is that the Nova H1 audio earring? Yes, PPD and I sent that. Rob has a little quick video and it's like you said Pat, we don't know. You don't, Rob, do you have that quick video of them? This is it right here.

This completely caught my eye. You know, I love me some designer clothes, some designer jewelry, but it's next level when you have hearing technology built into the jewelry so you can have a hearing piece but also wear it as a beauty piece. Tell me all about it. These are earrings, but with technology inside of them, actually. So you can use them like regular headphones. You can listen to music. You can make phone calls with them,

but they can stay on all day, and nobody will notice much more. We are working on a prototype, by the way, which is also unisex version. And we also have sound amplification in it, which means that other people who have maybe some difficulties with hearing have an amplified sound and it's not a good hearing aid, but it's definitely going to...

Can you put those two earrings next to each other, the Nova earrings with Tiffany? Why don't we buy a pair of earrings and check it out ourselves? But Tom made a great point. It's not as if they don't have a track record for doing nefarious actions. And then you have one of them's a sorority sister. The person that introduced them has ties to ABC. Donna Brazier helped Hillary with the questions. And Adam, you nailed it.

What if, you never know. She was very well-prepped. I've never heard her speak so on point, on message. I don't know, here's what I would tell you. It came out like an avalanche. That's what I'm saying Okay, so this is what I'm sighs. I'm I've saw it as well So what are the Nova 1-h or ins of government comes versus Prince Alonka news? We're talking. Yeah I mean, okay, so let's kind of go through it

I watch body language she kept looking at him and she kept paying attention to what he's saying and her movement of sarcasm the over-exaggerated movements and the facial stuff that she does while someone's speaking to you and feeding you what you're going to say. And even if somebody does feed you, you're going to remember every word the entire time while you're speaking. I don't know. Listen, I'm not saying it's not possible, okay? I'll go to the second thing that you guys have to realize. I think Trump should say yes to a second debate. And I'll say why I think Trump should say yes to a second debate. And I'll say why. I think Trump should agree to a second debate. Go back and think about how Kamala did

in the first primary debates, Democratic primary in 2020 when she destroyed Biden. Don't forget that. She came out, can you go Rob, run the polls on Democratic primary debate 2020 after first debate? See if you can find polls if you see the polls After first primary Demoktom see if you can find it because the debate 2020. Yeah, I mean, okay

If I go to it, there's no one's over polling for 2010. I want to see the one right after First debate, okay? Because if you pull up the first debate when it's over with, guess what happened with Kamala then? At least I remember, Kamala spiked to like 21 points. Yeah, that's the one. Okay, so let's look, is that the one? This is just an article, but it says

that Kamala Harris won the very first one. There you go, that's it, that's the point. I'm glad I'm, okay, so Senator Kamala Harris on the very first 2020. There you go. That's it. That's the point. I'm glad I'm okay. So Senator Kamala Harris on former housing, urban market, Julian Castro were amongst the candidate. You remember Julian Castro from San Antonio, the twins? Okay.

And former Beto O'Rourke and former rights are amongst the who appear to struggle, who appear to struggle. So when you watch this first debate with Kamala and Joe, she was fantastic. She came up. They were like, oh shit, what do we do with her? Well, what happened after the second debate? What happened after the third debate? Tulsi destroyed her.

It was over with. It was over with because sometimes, look, in a New York Knicks play the Chicago Bulls, that series, John Starks, right? You got Mason, Anthony Mason. You got Xavier McDaniel. You got all these fricking guys, right? You got Duncan Mason, Anthony Mason, you got Xavier McDaniel, you got all these freaking guys. I don't know if Johnson was on that team. This is the, could be, this is the one where anyway, so they're playing and then it goes to seven series. It was

go to seven game and Michael's like, wow, cause they came out first game. Nicks blew them out. Michael's like, look, if you guys thought we were going to come here and take this thing and serious was going to be an easy one, you're a fool because that's not the case. In his own words, you know what ends up happening? They come back and they win. So I think even Michael got started by John Starks. They thought John Starks was going to be the fricking MJ stopper. And then was the last time you heard about John Starks? That was Gerald Wilkins too. Yeah. But Dominic's brother, but the point, the point here is he should take the second debate because it's now styles.

Now you know what she tried to do to you. And now the people that need to be in his ear, there need to be a different strategy. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know about, I think if they agree to the second debate, not ABC, not NBC, not CBS, maybe even, and by the way, maybe not even Fox, maybe do News Nation, maybe you do somebody else that's like an outsider type of thing that you do. If they do agree to do something like that, I think Trump will

show up on the next one and I think they are, let me, you choose my words in a very proper way, they are being too confident if they don't agree to a second debate. I fully agree. I think they need a second debate and I think they're facing the Knicks, but the Knicks haven't won a championship since 72. So you have to go up and this is not, she's not at your level, but you need another one. But she turned, cause she turned down a Fox debate, correct? She only agreed to it that it was definitely going to be ABC. And I, that's what I'm saying is guys, I highly doubt,

I highly doubt unless she's in a comfortable environment where she knows that they're not going to go after her and her sorority sister is sitting across from her, that she's going to agree to do it. There's absolutely no way. And if Trump's smart, I would absolutely never do another leftist. You make a great point because I think the news cycle is going so fast right now, PBD, that we forget things. Just three weeks ago, we were hearing and we got a very

credible leak that was covered even on MSNBC that she wanted a more informal both candidate sitting down with note cards and she wanted the mics to be hot and the speculation was which was later leaked that she wanted to be able to interrupt and interject and poke Trump and make him mad. And she wanted the note cards, the speculation being that she had her pre-written hit lines that when Trump talks about immigration, interrupt him with this while he's talking. And remember that that went away and said, no, we're not going to do that. The both mics are not going to be hot. The mics will be off.

And we have to remember that she was very reluctant and her camp was fighting back and forth on even doing this debate with ABC. And ABC finally came up here with sort of the standard format that's been used recently. The mic is on with you're speaking two minute, one minute, but then ABC of all of the biased news people at ABC they could pick, they picked the Sorority's sister. I understand David Muir. He's their main guy. He's their flagship guy for their evening news. But is this really, I mean, obviously she was a woman of color and accomplished news person, but her relationship to Kamala, couldn't you find another one? And undeniably,

objectively speaking, how many times did the moderators interrupt Trump? Nine. Fact-shed Trump? At least nine times. Nine times. I counted six, seven times, whatever it was. How many times did they do that with her? The one time that they could have said, so did you meet Vladimir Putin? She's like, listen, I met Zelensky five times.

Yeah. That's not the question, young lady. And she spoke about intelligence and what she talked about. There was no fact-shedging. All you have to say is, thank you, Ms. Vice President. But did you meet Putin? Exactly. And there was no accountability there. That is 100%. I'll also say, you know, he used buzzwords to rattle her. I think the best line of the night when he says, you know, you're given transgender operations to illegal aliens in prison. It's like bang, bang,

bang. Which is a fact. It's actually hilarious. He said you have no plan. You're basically trying to destroy our country with the open borders. It rattled her a little, but she was prepared in my opinion, for those attacks. The divisiveness, she said, do you want more of this? But she rattled him a little bit, dude. They must have said, listen, we've been tracking Trump. You don't think they put a plan together? Talk about his crowd and his crowd sizes. The crowd is like, they're not leaving early. He got that. And when he went to their eating the dogs,

eating the cats thing, I think there was a very bad look on his end and she said, 81 million people fired you. And she was doing things. I spoke to other NATO leaders, they despise you, you're a disgrace. She rattled him a little bit. Yeah. And he wasn't ready for that. Can you do me a favor? Pull up the article I just sent you.

In the article he's being interviewed by the... Is this the one? Can you close that? Okay, yeah. If you go a little lower... And by the way, you know who wrote this article? Brian Stelter, because he's back. He's back!

Go a little lower. What team is he on? His comments are from Fox and Friends. Okay, right there. Right there. Go up a little bit. Go up a little bit the other way. The other way. The other way. Yeah. So his comments are on a morning phone call with the co-host Fox and Friends. He said, when you right there. Go up a little bit, go up a little bit the other way, the other way, the other way. Yeah. So his comments are on the morning

phone call with the co-host Fox and Friends. He said, when you win the debate, then he insulted Brett Baer and Martha McCollum and the two anchors that Fox News has pitched as potential debate moderators. I wouldn't want to have Brett and Martha. He said- Trump said this? Yes, exactly. That just makes no sense. Before proposing Hannity and Jesse Waters or Laura Ingraham instead.

It is evident that Fox primary prime time stars who exist more in the realm of entertainment than news are never going to moderate a general election. That's a poke. But Trump campaign manager, look what he said, Jason Miller said on CNN this morning, that Trump has already said that he's going to do three debates. So what is Jason saying? That there's going to do three debates. So what is Jason saying? That there's gonna be a third debate. So then the question becomes where, when, who.

That's what it is. And that's what they need to negotiate now. But by the way, viewership wise, when you look at data, Rob, on the viewership, I think I sent you that one as well, on where this ranked, they got 67 million viewers. I think it's 15 million more than him and Biden. Yeah, there is 51.3 million is the one that they did the Trump Biden debate. It was the lowest one and God knows how many years and look at the one that Hillary Clinton

and Trump got in 16. The first one, the first one, the first one was 71 73.1 million. That's right. And then the other one, the record was 84 million people watched him and Hillary. And guess what? The one with him and Hillary, if you watch their first debate,

you can hear Trump breathing hard in the first debate. Do you know what happened when we figured out the game? He destroyed her. He needs a second debate. The second debate, it's gonna be done. They can't do it with one. They have to agree for a second one to do and let them feel confident.

That's good. Because you'd be in jail. Let them feel confident. Because sometimes, you know, when you're the best or you're strong and you're the, not the best, when you're the best or you're strong and you're the, not the best, when you're the favorite, what happened? I remember one season, the Lakers had Shaq, they had Kobe, they had everybody.

No, no, not that season. Like go peak him and Kobe. When they're first year, they want to. Eddie Jones, that all these guys, right? And the Lakers had a sub 500 record when they went against teams that were sub 500. And you're like, wait a minute. And you want to check down to their competition would always say these guys don't show up on their plane. Somebody sub 500 that will lose by 18 points, 17 points. And then if they played somebody that had

the best record, these are the guys that are gonna be the Kobe stopper shack, they would annihilate them, right? Because, so he doesn't respect Kamala. In his mind, you know what Trump, I believe, is telling himself? You ain't Hillary. Like who the hell are you? Why am I standing next to this person?

Trump is in a way like, why are you guys making me play one on one against her? Who is she? That's what he's telling you, because that's how he views himself. Well, guess what? You just faced, you know, Brian Russell and at one point it was a Brian Russell Jordan.

Guess what? Brian Russell can stop Jordan for a game, but not for a series. Anybody can have one good game. Can you have two good games? That's what has to happen. So I hope they do the second debate and that's gonna be a turnaround

because this first one here, yes, Kamala came out since mainstream media is all behind her in the mainstream side. She came out as the one that everybody talks about. He won, she won, but it's good to hear the numbers about how independent saw the debate, which is very different. Speaking of numbers real quick, by the way, shout out to Byron Russell, getting a shout out on the podcast.

The court, the Jordan legendary shaft 98 is against him. I mean, this shout out to the biz doc right now, because I'm going to do the words, talk, number, scream right here. Kamala legitimately one of the worst vice presidents ever by the numbers. Yes. You know, if you go to five 38, if you trust them, all right, use the, use the margin of error in July, two short months ago, Kamala Harris unfavorable and favorable ratings. You know what it was?

She was underwater 17 points. So her unfavorable was 53 and her favorable was 36. Okay. Now Kamala, it's a dead heat Unfavorable 47 favorable 46. So two short months ago. She was underwater 17% does that say July on the left? What does it say there? It doesn't give the date, but 36.8. I'm letting you know July She was 16 points lower than she is now 16 points a lot So basically she came right up. Call it the media. Call her not talking, call her an agenda, call it whatever you want to call it. Those are the

numbers right now. Trump unfavorable ratings has improved ever since what happened at Butler, Pennsylvania and the shooting and everything. And then after the RNC, his unfavorable ratings, 52 after the RNC, his unfavorable ratings, 52 unfavorable 43. So he's minus nine. What's my point? She's up eight points on Trump in the favorability category. The numbers are talking. That's all I'm saying. So I come, what's her name? Matt, I'll said he wasn't able to finish a thought. He was very angry.

Then you have Trump demanded ABC should be shut down for rigged debate, right? Blamed ABC, call on debate rigged and demanding the network's broadcast license be revoked and they ought to take away their license for the way they did it. Trump accused ABC moderators of unfairly correcting the statements while refusing to correct Harris as alleging they should have corrected six or seven times. She told an outright lie and implied Harris may have known the debate questions in advance. She seemed awfully familiar with the questions. Despite claiming he won the debate, Trump expressed hesitation about participating in another one, etc. etc. So, I mean, look, you know, he's doing what he's doing with calling out the opposition.

Did they correct her at all? No, not one time. She told lies, not even, they never once, and she told lies, they never once corrected at all whatsoever, never followed up on the question. It was weak. But also at the same time, this is gonna sound unpopular, I was expecting the moderators to be worse

because when he asked three times times I need to follow up They were not assholes about it. The guy let him have his have his one minute They did you even said David Muir did a pretty decent job. He was a little bit different I thought he was like yes, go ahead. Go ahead. Mr. President. Let's give him a minute I thought there was certain things that he did. I'm telling you. I just think he needs a second debate Can I ask you one question, Pat? This is actually a very specific question for you. You talk about power versus force a lot. It's a yes. It's something that you go to because it's it's it's effective

and it's real and it's helpful to understand people at this point. I mean, you even did it at the vault. You get a whole presentation about it. I think people are understanding this concept. Where would you put Trump and where would you put Kamala in the power versus force categories at this point? And if you want to pull it up, Rob, you can pull it up so you can get a visualization. But I think this is important because I have an opinion on this, but I want to get your opinion. Well, if you want to pull up the chart and go through it. Okay, so is is a part of Does Trump

flirt with Courage. Yes. Yes. He's a courage guy when you see him Drop below that level of consciousness. Where does he go to anger Anger. Pride and anger. Yeah. Right? Pride and anger. What was she flirting with? Joy and love. Well, I don't think she, that's what she wants to market.

Correct. She was in desire, Patch. I think she was in desire. I think she was in some pride. Oh, I don't disagree. I don't disagree. But when it came down to the abortion topic, she came from a place of, you know, at least trying to present love to the women, to women who are paying attention, which that's her

argument, right? I don't know if I saw a lot of reason or acceptance or willingness, quite frankly, from anybody. I don't know if I saw any reason, acceptance, willingness, or neutrality from anybody. So this was, I don't know. This was a good debate to watch. But like if you were to say Reagan doing a debate, willingness, right? If you put certain other people in that category, you can put willingness, the ability to reason. I don't know.

Well, I was going to say something that you've talked about before is you have to sell the dream. One day when I'm the president. He was doing it. Okay, a little bit. But then he stopped. And then he'll go back to, you know, the greatest hits were like, we're going to hell, this country's falling apart, which there is a lot of validity in that. Especially if you look at like the decline in traditional values, decline in patriotism, I understand that. Future looks bright, but also only the paranoid survive. So my pastor said something. He said, man, you know, I remember a pastor giving a sermon and it was about, he says,

I would get up there and I'm like, oh my God, heaven is such an amazing place. And it's beautiful. And it's this. And he says, all I ever talked about is how amazing it is when one day we're going to go meet Jesus and we're going to go to heaven and we're going to do this. He said, I noticed not a lot of people were walking across and, you know, giving their life to Christ. He said, I went to another church, okay, and this other pastor was like, hell, is you gonna

be burning up? You're all going to hell! And you're gonna be this and it's gonna be that and it's gonna be this. People are lining up to give their life to Christ. Oh my God, what is... So then he saw those who did both. And it's like, that's the right place because that's how you gotta do with your kids.

You know, if you tell your kids, hey, you're gonna end up in jail, you're this, you're that, you're this. But if you're like, look, if you make the decisions the way you're doing right now is X, Y, Z, but I believe you're capable of doing this, and if you change, here's what it could look like for you. That didn't happen yesterday

Not yesterday two days ago. So I think I think you need to go there But that's when it goes into fear the fear of losing You know the desire of winning the anger the pride. He's got the pride and anger. I don't know Only thing I'm trying to do when you're doing that that I'm just trying not to get a pow-pow That's all I want. I don't know. Pat, the only thing I'm trying to do when you're doing the, I'm just trying not to get a pow pow. That's all I'm trying. I don't want pow pows. I don't even know how pow pows are in my life. And the one thing,

because then we want to move on, and me and Rob talk about it on the unusuals, the man was shot in the face. That's courage. Big time courage. But Pat, notice how he hasn't been, and I'm not saying harp on it every sentence, say I was shot in the head,

but I know he touched on it once where he goes, because of your rhetoric, I was almost killed. I was shot in the head. That's he touched on it once where he goes because of your rhetoric I was almost killed I was shot in the head that's something that's a moment we have to say listen to the American people since 2016 when I announced from Russia collusion to indictments to I'm here for you and they tried to kill me because I'm trying to do this for you that is a talking point that I don't think he's even barely touched on it's just really odd that he hasn't even mentioned it. This is the one time, Pat, that he talked about the assassination. I think he should have hit on this more. Go ahead, Rob.

This is the one that weaponized, not me. She weaponized. I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me. They talk about democracy. I'm a threat to democracy. They're the threat to democracy with a fake Russia, Russia, Russia investigation that went nowhere. We have a lot to get to. Lindsey? By the way, yes, you're right. But the way he did it was very angry.

Dude, he needs to just go back and watch your speech at the RNC. The first 10 minutes. Just go watch the RNC speech. No, the first 10 minutes he's just telling everybody. Which one, Pat? RNC, the evening when we're in Hamptons. Go watch the speech you gave at the RNC. Go watch the mannerism.

Go watch the talk about what it is to have kids and being a grandfather and how proud you are of your son and Baron and sell the dream of the fact that you came and what you built and competing in a marketplace and how great America know sell the dream of the fact that you came and what you built and competing in a marketplace and you know how great America is the country. He started selling the dream two weeks ago. He said we need to start selling the dream again. It's as if he was listening to what we're talking about on the podcast because nobody else talks about selling the dream.

He started doing that again. He needs to go there and he needs to, you know, play the, play this guy, go watch the position that Reagan took and in the middle of the debate, Reagan became the leader when he's like, look, I'm not going to let inexperience become a, you know, issue for my... I'm not going to let my candidate's youth and inexperience... Yeah. Is this it, Rob? Can you play the clip if you've got it? I love this guy. I want to raise an issue that I think... This is it.

Play it. Yeah. I want to raise an issue that I think has been lurking out there for two or three weeks and cast it specifically in national security terms. You already are the oldest president in history, and some of your staff say you were tired after your most recent encounter with Mr. Mondale. I recall yet that President Kennedy had to go for days on end with very little sleep during the Cuba Missile Crisis.

Is there any doubt in your mind that you would be able to function in such circumstances? Not at all, Mr. Truitt. And I want you to know that also I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. Even the opponent laughs. You know you're doing good. And then he drinks the water. That's the mic drop.

The water is the mic drop. Yeah. But that line was ready to go. I love that. In the holster. I should add, my dad, Mr. Truett, was ready to go. I love him. In the holster. I said that in my ad, Mr. Truett. Could you imagine candidates... Let's see what he says.

The moderator's laughing. Hang on, I'm here. It was Seneca or it was Cicero, I don't know which, that said, if it was not for the elders correcting the mistakes of the young, there would be no state. Mr. President, I'd like to head for the fence and try to catch that one before it goes over, but I'll go on to another question. So, I think he is in the position to do that. He can do that, you know, but I don't know.

Anyways, we're not on the end. Guys, just a bunch of podcasts, conversation, regular people here sitting in our room doing our thing. Just hanging out. Tom. I go deeper. If I was on her camp, I'm not sure I'd want a second debate because he's going to come back much stronger. And by the way, polls were being suppressed. There were polls that had been taken that had shown her flattening out.

Polls had actually shown her flattening out. ABC has been sitting on a poll that's leaking this morning that they had him plus one in Michigan. So her bounce on the announcement, the shift in July, her bounce from the DNC were not five, six, seven point perma bounces. It was just a little bit and it was flattening out and Trump was extending Nevada, Arizona, Georgia. It's a fact. They all were agreeing with that. They needed this debate and to hear that the independent voters, which is the real point, were breaking this way, the deeper strategy here would be to keep her on teleprompters, go into rallies and not have her do live interview. And for the love of God,

don't take another debate. The only thing that can happen is compared to her past, is she does worse and he shows up. I wouldn't want to take that risk if I was her strategy. I think is catastrophic for them to encourage it and do it I think they have to not take it. I think that's what they need to do Kamala The good news is we know they don't watch this podcast, but I think Kamala needs to avoid at all cost Taking the second debate now, let's go to the next story. I wanna go to the next story. Taylor Swift. So Taylor Swift gets up there and she says what she says. And after she says it,

what is the page Rob that shows all the numbers? Oh, is it on the addendum? It is on the addendum, you're right. So Taylor Swift goes up there and endorses Kamala. And all of a sudden, 338,000 people go to vote.gov with Kamala Harris endorsement. So Rob, do you have a video of this or is it just a, let me see if this is a video or not?

No, I have a video for the Elon Musk story. Okay, so let me go to the Senate. We'll go straight to the video. So Taylor Swift endorsement Kamala Harris led to a surge of 337,826 to go to the US government and services administration spokesperson confirmed that as of 2 p.m. on Wednesday, September 11, there have been 337,000 visitors to vote.gov. In her Instagram post, she wrote, I'm voting for Kamala Harris and we know the rest, right? So that bump of 337,000 people going there and Elon Musk decides to respond because of course, Elon doesn't have enough kids. So

he encourages something. Rob, if you want to play what Elon says to her. Elon Musk decides to respond because of course Elon doesn't have enough kids so he Encourages something Rob if you want to play what Elon says to her well He tweeted but this is what the internet then created with AI is a photo of Elon and our video of Elon and a pregnant Taylor Swift that is a cute couple Taylor though kinda I mean just really listen cats are getting a lot of love these days, guys. Oh my God, that's a problem. Rob, do you have the tweet of what he says? I'll find it right now. Yeah, if you just go to Twitter and just pull up exactly what he says. He said something in a, you know, hey, if you want a tent child, I'm here. I'd love to have a tent baby with you. I mean, he tweets a lot, so you're not going to find it.

I mean, SpaceX has had something, they just had a guy walking outside it just happened yesterday right Rob? Of what? SpaceX had a man. It was the first private spaceflight yes. He said okay fine Taylor you win I will give you a child and guard your cats with my life. And by the way Caitlin Clark likes the post but she was asked was Caitlin Clark asked any question Rob or no Yes, here she is being asked about her. Go for it You liked a an Instagram post last night from Taylor Swift. They got a lot of attention and I'm just curious if if you could tell us what that post meant to you and

If you are in fact fact potentially going to endorse Kamala Harris, thank you. I think for myself, I have this amazing platform, so I think the biggest thing would be just to encourage people to register to vote. I think for myself, this is the second time I can vote in an election, at age 22 I could vote when I was 18, so I think to do that,

that's the biggest thing I can do with the platform that I have. And that's the same thing Tara did. And I think continue to educate yourself with the candidates that we have, the policies that they're supporting. I think that's the biggest thing you can do. And that's what I would recommend to every single person

that has that opportunity in our country. Go Scott and Matt. Okay, go to Usher. Cause Usher also had a- Usher's the best. Usher's the best. Usher's being pushed, and he likes it his way, but you know, when he was- When I get my way. When he was going through it, and you know-

My way. Go ahead, Rob. This is the oldest person- In this emergency that we're in, I think that the Who's artists just come out and speak for Kamala against Donald Trump, because he is an existential threat to the country. What do you say to that? You know what, I don't get too deep into politics. I didn't get a chance to watch the debate last night.

I obviously have been watching like everybody else. I think voting is an individual choice. And I think that you're right. You have to look at the reality of the country that we are and the country that we want to be and find the candidate that you feel both are, who fits the category of where we wanna be. And that's it.

And that's what you vote based off of. Who you highlight and how you choose to highlight it on whatever platform you have is your prerogative. Yes. The question is, does he, Yeah, I see why. does he make her want to leave the one she's with? Or start a new relationship with Trump?

You make me want to leave, want to win. This is what you do. That's what you do. But I don't know. I don't know, so Usher, Caitlin, Taylor, Tom, do any of these things have any influence on the election? What's really interesting, if you were to go take a look at people that study marketing, celebrities sell apparel very well.

Hey, I like what that celebrity was wearing. I like the wardrobe they have there. Look at the sneakers they were wearing in that video. Wow, I want some of that. Everybody agrees that it's there. Celebrities have a hard time pushing food, because food is a personal choice, and they have a very hard time pushing political candidates. It's not zero. It's not zero. But there aren't people sitting at home waiting to find out, wow, what would Bruce Springsteen do?

Bruce Springsteen and Obama had a failed podcast. Bruce was unable to bring the audience. Obama's unable to bring the audience. And so it's very difficult for celebrities in the political realm to support, which is why candidates so often were looking for... Who did you look for in the old days? Governors, mayors, and newspapers. Those were the ones that used to move people. What does your local newspaper say? What does your governor say? What does your mayor say? It was very important to get down ballot support from a leading candidate and to get up ballot support if I'm running to be mayor. So, and celebrities, you cannot discount this mob of that follows Taylor Swift. You can't discount it. But historically, quantitatively speaking, celebrities have a hard get paid a lot to be spokespeople, but if it's not, and

I would go make up with the Kardashians, I mean it's just amazing the amount of product they can move, but take a look at what that is. You're a wardrobe makeup fashion on that lane, man, it's all about it. But when you see that link, those Swifties were swiftly seeking swift purchase of swift swag and they were swiftly disappointed. You know? Swiftly done, Tom. Very swift.

Well, I think it depends on the size of the personality and the magnitude in which they can actually move the needle. Okay, so let's take Caitlin Clark. She's part of the WNBA. You know, half the league are lesbians. No disrespect. It's just like out there. What do you think they're voting for? Stop it. Like it's not even close, but she plays in Indiana. That's a red state. So you'd think she was a little bit media trained. Hey, listen, Caitlin,

you're going to be asked about this. We know where you stand, wink, wink, but you're also playing Indiana. Let's just be diplomatic here. Usher, other than leaving the one he's with black man, making a lot of money. We see the trend going towards Trump. Let's be diplomatic. You saw how quickly Joy Bae harsh. He's an existential threat, right? Right. Right. He's like, well, listen, why do you pick his hair color? I choose to vote who you are. She goes, okay. I like that flip real quick. But Taylor Swift, that's an, there's nobody comparable to her period that can move the needle. Like Trump generally needs to find a Kim Kardashian type to basically endorse him.

Guys, move the needle. Let me ask you a question. Can we just do some math? Rob, go to Instagram, go again and pull up the number. What move the needle? Like we keep saying that. I get that, guys, but go to number 284. Let's do the number guys. This is maybe the one the worst like Taylor Swift Endorsement on Instagram. This may be one of the worst Conversion rates in the history of mankind. How many people want to register? 338,000 let's do They didn't register by that was the traffic to the site. The registrations were never disclosed So this is just traffic. It's not even an actual, how many of the 338 do you think voted?

Well, nobody's registered. So 338 registered, go to 338 divided by what? What was the number again, Rob? Was it 292? 284. 294 million. You know what that is? It's a conversion rate of 0.001%.

You know what that is? If you offered conversion ratios like this, you'd be fired. That means no one gives a shit. They just went to the website and left. And maybe they registered or did something. And you know what happens the next day? Everybody moves on.

The Instagram post doesn't have wait three weeks from now, or six weeks from now, eight weeks. This is just seven weeks from now. This is just now. This is not as big as people think it is, and it's her audience. How many of those three, how many of those 338 that went for conservatives?

How many of those 338 that went for independents? How many of those? You go to 5%, so of the 338 that went, the 5% of 338, okay, let's just say it's a.05%, 16,000 people. And then, of the 16,000 people that went, how many of them do you think were from big metropolitan cities of blue city places? How many of them do you think were California, New York, Illinois? How many of them do you think were places like that?

Okay, those states don't matter anyways. So then you really take that 16,900 people that are independent or even have any kind of an influence in this and you really go down to it from the 50 states and you go to Pennsylvania, you go to Ohio, you go to whatever, whatever. RG George Arizona, Nevada. RG You know what happens? RG Where they're needed. RG What is the population of Georgia, Arizona, Nevada Rob?

Go to Georgia, Arizona, Nevada What is the population of Georgia? Arizona and Nevada. Let's just write it down real quick and we're gonna do basic math here guys This is the stuff that you know, it's it that's what 10.9. One is who? 11 to Georgia go to in Nevada was Nevada's population. Who is that? That's who? Nevada's? Okay, 3 million.

Let's just say 3.2 million. What's the next one? And just do Arizona. Okay, let's do 7.5. Guys, you know what that is? It's 22 million people right there. What's 22 million divided by, what's 22 million divided by 340 million?

Okay, 22 million divided by 340 million? Okay, 22 million divided by 340 million is .064%. So we're now down to the 16,700. So now let's go to.066. So you know what she really moved? It's 1,080 people. That's crazy. Did you guys get how I did the math? This is not a big, this is not like a revolutionary, and then we even if we go to counties that matter, if we go even more specific, it's really 300 people. That's it. It's 300 people. What's 300 people? Almost the amount of people that we have when we do a live podcast. it's not that big of a number. This thing is not done. This thing is going to require constant hitting, and you're not going to win every day.

Do you remember the week when I said this could have been the best week Trump's had for the last 18 months? What was the week? After he got shot? RFK, Tulsi, shot. It was Tulsi, RFK, and it was one other thing. Zuckerberg said the fact that, yes, we did this. He never once brought up Zuckerberg.

Like he never did stuff like, dude, somebody needs to sit there. President, like right before it's the stage, President, just wanna remind you, bring it up that the assassination attempt was just seven weeks ago. Bring it up what Zuckerberg said. Bring it up, what Zuckerberg said. Bring it up, what Biden and Kamala did that they forced him.

Can you please bring these five things up? You got to bring the border. Bring these five things up. If they're not going to bring it up, you bring it up. Bring these things up. It's all that needs to happen. A little bit more preparation to just an in go fricking campaign because she ain't going to campaign. You think she's going to campaign, Cheryl? She's going to do campaign with what? No. By the way, Biden was campaigning yesterday for her. You know what he did? Full of how Biden

this is how Biden is helping her out. Hey, Joe. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey kitty, hey kitty, hey, what does he call her? Hey kid, hey kid, hey, I'm gonna go help you win this election. I'm gonna campaign for you. Rob, do you have the, this is how President Biden was campaigning for Kamala yesterday to help her. Do you think they want him on the road? Play this clip. There you go, man.

I got it. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, go, man. You got to, I, You guys want a Trump hat. You want mine? Hell no. Hell no. You can't have mine, man. Take the plan. That man is officially the hottest item in his local city bar.

Look at that. Oh my God. Look at that endorsement. Look at the Secret Service guy trying to grab it. You saw the Secret Service guy? He's like, get out of here. Mr. President, that's radioactive. It's a joke.

I know, but he got, it's a photo on the wall. It's a photo on the wall. It's a photo on the wall. It's a photo on the wall. It's a photo on the wall. It's a photo on the wall. It's a photo on the wall. It's a photo on the wall. It's a photo on the wall. It's a photo on guy trying to grab it. You saw the Secret Service guy? He's like, get out of here! Mr. President, that's radioactive. It's a joke.

I know, but he got, it's a photo opportunity. Look, it's nice. You don't do this. No. No, no. You don't do this. You don't even mess around like this. Adam, he's so gone.

What do you have? This is the thing the camp is saying. The camp is like, can you guys make sure? Listen, he said, your boss is on vacation 40% of the time. They're probably going to be saying, Biden, take the next two months off. Please don't. Take the next two months off. I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I vacation 40% of the time. They're probably going to be saying, Biden, take the next two months off. Take the next two months off. Just go to Delaware, chill out, kick back, relax, enjoy the ride, listen to some 30s music, 40s music, and just do your thing. You know it's scary that you mentioned the assassination, and Tom, I'm sorry, I don't know if you want to say something.

If Trump gets shot and killed, they're still with Biden right now. There's no Kamala and Joe Biden is still the guy that's running against who, who, whoever. Yeah. We're still living in Obama's third term. Yeah, exactly. So we'll close the book on endorsement with a quick PGA, Rourke and Hunter S Thompson talked about rock the vote from 2004, 2008. Yep. And they talked in Rolling Stone magazine that they had spent all this effort, all this energy to do this, to do get Rock the Vote, Rock the Vote, Rock the Vote, and get artists to volunteer time and companies volunteered and donated money so they could put the stages together and Rock the Vote. And then they came back and Hunter S. Thompson was famous for saying,

The Little Bastards thought it was a summer concert tour. They didn't know we wanted them to get home and get to work. So and they had spent all that money on it and they felt that they got nothing out of it and Bush was re-elected. W was re-elected. And so you can go back to the annals of time of people trying to get endorsements. Celebrity endorsements don't give you the traction you think and PBD just took us through the math of what probably is a very very negligible impact. By the way this is why I'm a big fan of PJ O'Rourke's great nephew Robert O'Rourke. Robert O'Rourke's the best. What a fantastic guy he is. Shout out to Robert O'Rourke.

Robert O'Rourke in the house. Actually PJ O'Rourke, the late PJ O'Rourke, God rest his soul, wrote a great book about our government You should read is called Parliament of whores and it was um, jeez. No, no, you should go look at it It's a it's a great book. Okay. Yeah. Yeah good But what's who's the type of person that actually changes or decides their vote because their favorite celebrity? Encourages them to do that. Like who is that person? I would I would venture to guess I would call to do that. Like who is that person? I would, I would venture to guess I would call useful idiots because the reality is an 18 year old freshman at Cal Berkeley, who's just hearing this for the first time of her life, has the exact same amount of votes as a 46 year old

businessman entrepreneur in Florida. I don't know. I know a few and everyone has a vote and the useful idiots will get swayed by Taylor and her merch and all it takes is a vote and the useful idiots will get swayed by Taylor and her merch. And all it takes is a couple thousand, find me 12,000 votes. All it takes is a couple different votes to change an election. And that's the reality. And I mean, the Democrats have a thing about it. If you think about Democrats have Hollywood music, athletes, everybody in the left and the media goes for vote, vote, vote.

Who does Donald Trump have? Kid Rock. He has Kid Rock. And like you always say, those people are already voting for you. Dana's UFC people, they're already voting for you. That crossover, I mean, because think about Hollywood, you're never gonna have an artist come on and be like, I love Donald Trump because their career is finished. All right, let's transition into a completely different story here. Guys, I mean, this kind of stuff happens to all of us. How many of you, like, be honest, how many of you are having a good time

with your girl or your wife or your boyfriend your husband and you know sometimes your butt or your hand or your elbow hits the live button. I mean we've all done it before. On Instagram? Very normal thing. All the time. On Instagram because if we actually go on Instagram and you use the app, first here's what needs to happen. Your phone first has to be unlocked. Number one. Okay, Mr. Club Shashe. First play, guys, if your kids are watching, I'm just telling you right now, you may want to give them a break and earmuffs for the next, I'll give you five seconds. What I'm about to play is Shannon Sharpe's Instagram Live.

It's sitting on the bed and it's looking at the ceiling, but on the background there's background noise. It's kind of like the one from the movie Rain Man when Raymond realizes his brother is getting it on in the other room. And he says, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. Is Raymond here? Yes. Or Charlie David. Raymond, get out of here. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. Raymond here?

Yes. Charlie David. Raymond, get out of here. Charlie David. Charlie David. Sally Field and Forrest Gump. Yeah, exactly. OK, so we've given enough of a warning.

Go ahead and play this. Go ahead, Rob. I'm going to take a hit. I'm going to take a hit. OK, you can pause. That's enough. You get the idea. So now, by the way, Rob, do me a favor. Is this him in Ocho Cinco?

So this is where Shannon Sharp addresses that the recording was put out. Okay, go ahead. How long is this one here? We have a bunch of short clips. This one's two minutes. I hear most of them are two minutes is what I'm hearing. Because he initially said he was hacked. By the way, the recording was only two minutes because that's how long.

Go ahead Rob. That happened today. Look at this. Obviously, I'm embarrassed. Someone that is extremely, extremely private and to have one of your most intimate details, the audio heard for the entire world to hear. I'm embarrassed for a number of reasons. People count on Shannon.

Rob, go to Oshershek. I mean, I get what he's doing. I just, I want to see what the phone call is. You try to, you try to make light of it. Nobody, nobody was harmed in the making of this audio. Except for the girl. No animals were harmed. Oh, I don't know.

Except for, you know, she might have to put a little ice pack down there, but she could. She's going for it. You know, you play a hard game, you ice. Basketball players ice their knees, they ice their ankles, elbows and stuff like that up and down football players. What does he say? What does he say?

Hey, she might be in the Epsom salt right now. You know, the Epsom salt right now watching watching watching the show. Hey Michelle. All right. Heal up sweetie. Heal up. He put her name out there. Did he say at least it's not?

Yes. Here's another one. This is. Because I sent you one Rob where he is... I can't believe him. Because I sent you one, Rob, where he says Cat Williams calls him. I was upset, but then I also remembered that you're not very good, or you're not very technically savvy with phones and computer equipment, all that stuff, so I gave you a little grace. But I was still a little upset.

I was a little grace, but I was still a little upset. I was a little hurt. But the fact that it was a Michelle and not a Michael. That's my dog. She's never been. That's Michael. That's my dog. By the way, is this cat Williams is this is him talking about the phone call he received from cat William. Go ahead.

Two minutes five minutes before I came home phone rings. It's cat cat Williams up the first thing out of his mouth. Guess what he said. Oh Joe. Wow. You ain't gay today. So think about the irony. Listen, you know, I'm an extremely private person. Yeah, so there I am, you know on camera out an extremely private person. So there I am, you know, on camera out there, talking about it on a podcast right now, live to the world. I'm extremely private though, I wouldn't talk about that. Then she's ice packing herself.

Michelle, right, ain't that right? Put your business out there, but I'm extremely private. I would never tell this story to the world. Here's the thing, guys. Let me just kind of take you through this. Which one is it, Hennishar? How often is your phone closed with, what do you call it, with password protected? How often?

All the time. All the time. Okay, but let's just say he's picking the music. I didn't hear any music playing in the background. No music. All right, so there's no music. So here's a step process, let's go through it, to accidentally press live. You ready?

Okay. Tom, I want you to see this here, Tom. Okay? All right, first I gotta go up, then I gotta go lower. Okay? Then after I look, I have to find my Instagram app, and it has to press perfectly on Instagram. Then I go on Instagram app, then I have to swipe left, okay? Look how perfect they have to be.

Then here I have to press live, then when be. Then here I have to press live. Then when I press live, I have to press live. And then it asks you, are you sure you're ready to go live? So if it's like a seven step, come on, bro. Come on. Come on, man. I get it. He pulled off a Kim Kardashian and he's trending. And by the way, if you want to get rid of any gay rumors, that's exactly what you do. And not only that, he's a single guy. Yeah, you can do whatever you want.

You can say whatever you want. He did not commit a crime. He thinks he did, but he did not commit a crime. And it is what it is. But at the same time, come on, bro. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man.

Come on, man. Never, never tempt a network. How about Adam just went through it to make sure it never happens. Come on, man. Come on, man. What are you doing, man? Never tempt a network. By the way, Adam just went through it to make sure it never happens to him. How many steps did it take you? Man, I'm blocked from Instagram Live. Can't even do it.

How much will this affect his career? Zero. You don't think so? No. Zero. He could start an OnlyFans right now. Zero. It would blow up.

Yeah, an OnlyFans. You don't think this will be... This is not what Paul Pierce did. What did Paul Pierce do? I forgot what he did. You guys are joking? I forgot. Go pull a white ESP and fart Paul Pierce.

You guys are joking? I remember he had some sex tapes. What are you talking about? Paul Pierce was doing an Instagram Live talking about, we got prostitutes. Oh, he was at the strip club or something like that? No, no, no. in his house calling girls over paying them and all that stuff. He just went down. And he got fired. This is like five years ago or something like that. It's not five years ago, it's like two years ago, three years ago. It's not that long ago. Don't, don't. Damn. Yeah, so. Hey Pat, shoot or shoot man? Yeah. They gotta put the ball in the hole. It is, it is what it is. I'm not saying anything.

What year was that? All I'm saying, four years, no, three years ago. 2021. Yeah, two and a half years ago. Pop ears doesn't sound upset at all about stripper video that led to ESPN firing. That's what happened there. So, anyways, so that's that. Now, we just covered that story. Tom, I'm going to go through the business story here about recession and what the stock

market did. Market experts explain why U.S. stock futures went down with Harris as the debate victor. So what does this mean? Adam Tonquist noted that the U.S. stock futures turned lower right as the debate started. Correlation Kamala Harris's increasing odds for victory with the market declined as Trump's odds were declining and the market is higher correlated to Trump. Ryan Payne downplayed the market reaction saying it wasn't exactly dramatic, while Adam Johnson argued that Harris's success in the debate negatively impacted the market

as she put Trump on the defensive, making her look like the victor and driving futures down. Johnson also expressed concerns about Harris' proposed economic policy, stating if you just look at her plan superficially, it's going to be higher taxes, including a corporate tax rate from 21 to 28 and the capital gains to high to 45%, which is pretty scary to the market. Tom, what was the correlation like? What do you think? Well, here's the correlation and so you can forget about what you think she's going to do

I mean literally set that aside the market is assuming member Trump's tax cuts have an expiration date the new president if Kamala is elected has to Proactively work with Congress and Senate to extend the Trump tax rates Otherwise they expire which becomes a tax increase. Do you understand that Vinny? Like you don't have to do anything The market is assuming that they're gonna let them expire because the market believes She is what the nickname for it is tax tax and spend Democrats, or in this case, spend and tax, where she is going to be spending, her programs represent more spending, they need to have taxes to at least get something of the deficit under control,

just a little bit, and so the market believes taxes are going up with her. The market also believes that regulation is going up, and by the way, if you read the analysts across Wall Street, they don't believe What she's been saying? They believe that there is going to be a dramatic change to capital gains beyond letting the Trump tax cuts expire So when the market thinks it's gonna that some of its net income is going to be taxed away because Trump's Tax cuts are just going to expire and go away. That's what they're thinking. So they believe that as soon as she's elected,

we should already price in for the next six months, earnings, earnings going down, net earnings going down because the greater tax effect. It's as simple as that, PBD. That's what they're thinking. And the whole market is in lockstep. Whether the people, the leader of a bank or the leader of a company whether they agree with her Social policies and things like this on on trends or pick a topic you like it doesn't matter

They all believe those cuts are expiring cuts are gonna go up and so the market is reacting now that people say well the market Stop reacting that much not reacting that much really there's been a lot of little things over the course of the last month that have been moving in the market. And the market is facing increased unemployment right now. The market is also waiting for the rate cuts that they don't think are fast enough right now. So they're looking at everything in total, and they are not seeing a strong supportive stimulus for what many people say is that we are in a

structural recession right now. Well I'll give you three points and this is from Fox Business. Point number one is the headline the markets think or at least react to the fact that ready for it? Kamala won the debate. So in return number two the markets or the futures went lower. What does that mean? That the markets are basically saying, yeah, Comley is not going to be as good for the economy. But the markets is not just America, it's the world. So basically the world is responding, yeah, this is not going to be as good for companies, the free trade, the markets, everything that's going on out there. But reversion to the mean equilibrium at this point today, the market is pretty much flat. S&P is up a couple points,

the Dow is down a couple points, there's nothing going on. Because the markets are reacted to not just what's going on in America, but what's going on around the world. There's a multitude of factors that are going to affect the markets. So what we can take from it from America is that if you're just looking at American markets, that they think that Trump would be a lot better for the economy and the markets than Kamala. And that's why you've seen for the past few months how many billionaires have come out and donated and basically endorsed Trump.

We're seeing Silicon Valley even at some point shifting way towards the middle, even to the right. So there's no denying that Trump would be better for the economy, I guess, based on the markets at this point. Can I ask you a question, Tom? If she wins, God forbid, does Powell and Janet Yellen stay in? And how much of a guaranteed recession, because these policies are going to still stay? This Democratic party is going to keep doing what they're doing? What do you think? Well, two answers there. First is, Powell has a term. He's elected. He's ahead of the Fed. And he has a term just like a senator or congressman.

And his term will expire. I think it's 2025, actually. Yeah, in about a year. And so at that point, can the president influence? Absolutely. The president will also, Yellen goes away and the new president will submit their, because she's secretary of treasury, will submit their new cabinet, including secretary of treasury. Secretary of treasury is not superior to the Fed.

As a matter of fact, they fight a lot back and forth, not like cats and dogs, but they will disagree on things because treasury is a political position. You serve not the treasury and not the IRS and not the American people. You serve the president's political desires and programs on his agenda or her agenda. So that's what will happen to Yellen. So on those two things. And the rest of it is she doesn't have to do anything. She can just let the Trump tax cuts expire and taxes are going up for everybody, including the middle class next year. So that's what the markets are responding to. And we are seeing unemployment edge up. And I'm for one saying that, you know, I don't think it would be uncalled for,

for the Fed to think about a half a point rate decrease rather than the quarter point that we think we're gonna get in about a week. Got it. You know what I find ironic, Tom? The guy, Jerome Powell, chairman of the Fed running a $27 trillion economy, whatever it is at this point,

you know how much he gets paid a year? How much? 200 grand? Yeah, 203,000. Wow. I just think that, I understand the president, I think, makes 400 grand, whatever it is at this point. The guy running a $27 trillion printing trillions of dollars makes 200 something grand a year. Just a little ironic right there. Yeah. Go see what

he's paid to speak when he goes to Harvard and Cato Institute to their confabs and speaks. So that's how the Obamas get rich. That's how they all get rich. Except Nancy Pelosi. She seems to know today's news yesterday. All right, there you go. So that's the part with markets. Same thing happened with Hillary, by the way.

The moment Wall Street thought Hillary was going to win, there was the one day when a market tanked, when everybody from Wall Street said, yep, Hillary's going to be the president, and a market reacted to it. So let me see what other stories we got here that we haven't gone through. Okay, Jamie Dimon, pretty interesting. Jamie Dimon says succession is the most important task of his right now. This is a Reuters story. Jamie Dimon has got nothing more important right now than finding his succession. So he's focused on succession planning and as a cadre of extremely qualified people who

are prepared to run the bank, eventually, Dimon and his team spend a lot of time thinking about what happens after he retires. Dimon has been at the helm of the U.S.'s largest lender since 2006. He is among a group of financial CEOs whose names have been floated for senior economic roles in the government, including Treasury Secretary Diamond previously signaled. His timeline for stepping down is no longer five years and could be as soon as two and a half years. JP Morgan has identified Jennifer Piepzak and Troy Roarbaugh, who jointly lead commercial

investment banking, Marianne Lake, who runs consumer business, and Mary Erdos, the head of asset and wealth management as potential successors. Tom? So first of all, Jamie Dimon is trying to make sure that the markets understand that he knows he's a legend. He has been for the US economy, and people say maybe this is blasphemous or this is hyperbole. I don't think it is.

He at certain times, his voice is almost as strong as Powell's is when you come to the speculative side. Now when Powell says I'm cutting rates tomorrow, there is no stronger voice than that. But Jamie Dimon has come out and he's made statements about the economy, statements about where we're going and he's taken leadership position among banking. He's trying to calm the market that said, look, I know that the minute I announce my successor that you're going to, number one, speculate on my stock, and I want that to be careful, but also on the broader economy. I just want to let you know the timeline. So I think this is Jamie Dimon understanding

the sway he carries specifically in banking, and he is trying to do the right thing for the economy, and number one for his organization, JP Morgan Chase. Now then, OK, Tom, what is Jamie going to do? Would Jamie be Secretary of Treasury and then Jamie run? I think he's one of the people that would seriously consider it. You think about a head of banking, PBD. Does he talk to the UK?

All the time. Does he talk to the Bank of Europe? All the time. Does he talk to international currency market? They fund them. So here's a guy that by nature of global banking has a certain amount, not military, but a certain amount of foreign policy, economic

policy experience. And I happen to think he'd be a pretty strong candidate. And he also is known for having a really measured hand. So I think this is also maybe him letting Washington know, hey, in the next fantasy draft I may be a free agent If Jamie diamond did run by the way, he's 68 years old. He's worth two billion dollars We know what a beast he is in the financial markets If Jamie diamond did run what are the chances he would run as a Republican or a Democrat? He'd run as a Democrat. You say you think so. I think he would run as a demo. Okay, I'm with you

Yeah, what are the chances that? He'll be okay. If Kamala wins or even loses whatever. So four years from now, odds, I'm looking for odds. A person who has never served in public office, obviously he's ran the biggest banks in the world, biggest bank in the world. What are the chances that a 72 year old billionaire white guy is going to be the voice and the leader of the new Democratic Party that is just filled with DEI woke progressive agenda. You have to realize. I don't see it. No, but here's the thing the Democrats only care

if you're white and rich if you're Republican. The Democrats don't care if you're white and rich if you're Democrat. They don't care about that. Just think about Pritzker at the event. Yeah. While John Stewart is like so Bernie Sanders the billionaires. The millionaires and the billionaires that rule in our country. I'm a real billionaire, but because I'm a Democrat and a white man, a progressive,

you're on our side is what you're gonna be doing. I think this guy's formidable, and by the way, he said his plan was five years, he's trying to accelerate for 2 1 1 2 years. Why are you trying to accelerate for 2 1 1 2 years? Because that's when you have to start campaigning in 2 1 1 2 years for 2028. And I think 2028 is the year to do it, because say Trump wins.

In a way, he thinks Trump's going to win this year, in a way. Trust me, deep down inside, he doesn't want Kamala to win. And deep down inside, there's a lot of people that don't want Kamala to win. Because if Trump wins, Trump only has one term. It opens it up. If Kamala wins, they have to wait eight years till 2032. So that's how they're processing this. Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep down inside by themselves,

they're processing it that way that they're thinking Trump's gonna win. I think Jamie wants Trump to win. I think Cuban wants Kamala to win because he wants to be on Kamala's campaign team. But I think 2028 is going to have him, potentially Cuban, potentially the rock, potentially a lot of different people. If Trump wins, 2028, when you look at the stage, you're going to be like, oh my God,

that guy's the biggest company. This guy's a freaking sports, you know Billionaire a shark tank that guy's a celebrity the freaking six seven hundred million file What is this gonna look like? Right? This is gonna be interesting. I think that's what's gonna happen in 2020 I'd love to see someone like Jamie Dimon that even the Democratic Party at least we'll have a capitalist in there Not something potential Marxist that's in at the front office. God forbid Bernie Sanders is in there. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if that's really what he's going to do. Tom, would you be okay with a Jamie Dimon president?

As a Democrat? I would be 70% right now. You would vote for Jamie Dimon? Okay, let me ask this question. Would you rather have Jamie Dimon as the president or Vivek Ramaswamy? Oh, no, hang on. No, no, no. You said, would I be okay with Jamie as the president? You didn't compare it. But I would be more inclined. You just got angry, Tom. I don't want you to be angry. No, no, no. I'm not. He's upset, Tom.

No, I'm not angry. The answer to the first question is if I woke up one morning and Jamie is president, are you okay with that? And I say right now I'd say I'd be 70% okay with that. However, in an open field for 2028, I want to see Vivek run. I agree. I want to see Vivek. If what? If a Vivek again, so you take Vivek over Jamie Diamond. I would take Vivek and Tulsi as a ticket. Let me ask you. I would be behind that ticket a thousand percent. I'm gonna ask a different question for me, Tom, and I don't want to make you angry. Who would you

rather take, in what situation against the candidate on the right would you take Jamie? Would you take Jamie Diamond or Chris Christie? I would take Jamie Diamond. Okay, let me cue. So you see, that's crazy. Yes. Unbelievable. Tom is voting Democrat. Chad, let's go. Wait a minute. Would you take Jamie Diamond or Governor DeSantis? I'd go DeSantis. I would go DeSantis because I've seen him run the state. I've seen the results. Yeah. Would you go Jamie Diamond or would you go Nikki Haley? Jamie. Wow. Would you go, this is crazy exercise here. Would you go Jamie Diamond or Rock or Mark Cuban? Jamie! That's not even close for you.

Not even a discussion, you know, not even a discussion. The Rock! The Rock is President of the United States. Jamie Diamond or, I'm just, now I'm gonna throw some other curveballs, Huckabee. What? Sarah? No, no, Huckabee, Huckabee. Mike Huckabee? I know he's older, I'm just to throw some other curveballs. Huckabee. What? Sarah? No, no, Huckabee, Huckabee. Mike Huckabee?

I know he's older. I'm just thinking his policies. Are you going to go with somebody like that? The white Christian evangelical. Tom, think about this one now. We've got so much global unrest that what I'm thinking of is Jamie's ability to keep global economies in check and his moderated point of view on foreign policy. To keep global economies in check, you have to keep global politics in check and his moderated point of view on foreign policy to keep global economies

in check, you have to keep global politics in check. Jamie or Mike Pence? Mike Pence is still alive? Jamie or Doug Burgum? Doug. You know what? That would be a tougher choice for me because I think Doug is very informed on energy and he's very informed on foreign policy and economic policy on energy.

Doug is, I'm a fan of Doug. I'm just not seeing it, Pat. I don't see the Democratic party in its current state nominating a rich billionaire white guy who runs the banks. Imagine the narrative. He was this cool. You think AOC is gonna be speaking at the DNC. I feel like he's a Democrat.

He's running as a Democrat. The person that I rail against nonstop. But Pat, I feel like Jamie Dimon. I don't think there's room for a billionaire. You're getting emotional. You're getting emotional. I get so emotional. I'll give my wrap up.

Yes. But I would feel in that case, Jamie Dimon is running as a Dem the same way Joe Manchin and Joe Lieberman were Dems. Yeah, exactly. In name only. Exactly. But by the way, Dinos.

What I'm saying to you is, Yeah. What I'm saying to you is, he is very, very formidable. By the way, go to Manect, go back to Manect. Formidable, because he's so capable. If you agree or disagree with what Tom just said, send him a manect.

And by the way, if you have a solution on how to bring Tom's anger lower when he gets upset when I ask him some questions, give him three steps on how to do so. And if you have any feedback for Adam to work on his emotional side, maybe go to Adam. And if you have a single attractive girl who wants to have a big family and wants to be with a handsome, Assyrian looking young De Niro look, all of it, Manect, Vincent, I like how you threw the young one in there. Let's go to the next one. Tiger Woods in talks for a billion dollar golf deal.

So let's go to this. What page is this on? Page seven. Tiger Woods in talks with a billion dollar golf deal. Okay, so him and other PGA TOR officials are in New York this week with multi-day negotiations with representatives from Saudi Arabia, Public Investment Fund, PIF, aiming to finalize a deal that could see PIF investing over a billion dollars into the PGA Tour enterprises. The framework agreement originally announced on June 6, 2023 aims to unify professional golf by merging the PGA Tour and Live Golf, despite the initial 2023,

December 31st deadline passing without a finalized deal. Both sides remain committed to ongoing discussions. The timing of this meeting has drawn criticism from 9-11 Justice, a group accused of Saudi government involved in the 9-11 attacks, especially given the proximity of ground zero and anniversary of the attacks. PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan has emphasized that while negotiations are complex they are progressing productively. Look, the way Saudi is going, I would not be surprised if they offer a billion dollar contract to Michael Jordan to make a comeback to go on Saudi and play basketball. I mean they're willing to do anything it takes to go get anybody. For one day. For one day, yeah. Well what are

your thoughts about this year with the billion dollar offering and what they're trying to do, Tom? So what they did is Saudi funded, you know, live golf. Yes. And it created a competition. Remember when the USFL was formed and it was a competitor to the NFL and it really wasn't a competitor, but the NFL was really annoyed because it took away some TV, not a lot, but it was just annoying. It was a distraction. They're trying to run the NFL brand, NFL Sunday ticket, you know, red zone, all these channels and run their league without distraction. And all of a sudden you have this small group that does an offshoot, except they're funded by Saudi Arabia and billions of dollars.

You got to remember, this is like the third billion, Pat. There's already been a billion put up where they've sponsored players, including Phil Mickelson and given him huge personal service contracts and guarantees to go play with Live Golf. So what Jay Monahan was forced because guess what? A couple of the Live Golf players came back, played in PGA events and won. And then Live Golf was getting certain crowds and they would play rock music. And anybody see the Phoenix Open?

That's a PGA. You always see the people go crazy in Phoenix. There's a par three there. That's got like stadiums and people throw bottles out there and it's crazy. Live golf had a couple of events that were on par with that. And so Jay Monahan is like, Pat, I don't want the second league to be around. We need to negotiate with them and merge. I don't want a competitor, especially when funded by Saudi.

So they bring this, they say, hey, let's merge and let's talk about making it one unified thing. You'll put money in. But the boneheads pick the week of 9-11 to have public news stories that they're negotiating. That was just wrongheaded. You don't talk about it right then because there are connections there that are in people's mind. that they're negotiating. That was just wrongheaded. You don't talk about it right then because

there are, there are connections there that, that are in people's mind. But this is a, this is a story about a merger where the, the upstart would actually merge with the PGA and put some money in and hopefully everybody'd be happy. But they sure were tone deaf about when they were going to have their negotiations. Well, Pat, I know how much You absolutely love golf. No question every weekend on Sunday. You came to talk to the guy Yeah, it's just like every Sunday when I'm golfing. Yeah, forget it. Yeah eight four to eight hours every Tuesday Get to work. I mean stop I've been doing it since you run your own was big on golf

So it's like he loves playing in the sand a lot of bunkers. There was a lot of bunkers. Everything's blown up there. It's great. Um, look, I've been to a live golf tournament here in Miami. You know, we were invited by, by our friend and we went there. Guys, Adam is connected. It's just so you guys just, you know, just a little nobody that sometimes gets invited places. And when I do mention it, I get shit on.

But other than that, um, so we have, we have angry Tom today, sensitive feelings. And I'm the angry Patriot. I'm just chill. You want my shirt, Tom? By the way, dude, you're like in that level of consciousness. Going willing. I'm willing with joy and love. Joy. You're like the passive Patriot over here. Let's step it up a little bit, guy. Take my shirt off. Stop talking crap about the shirt. Let Adam finish.

What Liv Golf is doing is an extension of what Saudi is doing. So if you're paying attention to what's going on in Saudi these days, first and foremost, they are the number one basically opponent versus Iran in that region. They're basically jockeying for position for who's number one in that region. And then you have Turkey sort of on the European side of things. We'll see what they do. But Saudi basically had to make a decision. And they said, listen, Saudi Aramco is one of the top five market cap companies in

the world. I think they're $2 trillion. I mean, they're massive, but that's their entire economy in Saudi. So the public and public investment fund, they basically said, listen, we need to diversify. We need to after the whole Jamal, just just Jokowi. How do you say his last name? Jamal Jokowi, oh, Khashoggi. Khashoggi. So I apologize.

The reporter that from Turkey. After that, they said we need to basically go on a PR offensive and show the world that we're not this type of person. And we can talk about what happened with Khashoggi and what happened And I was just upset it was a crazy afternoon But they've went out there and they've been spending money On a sort of PR campaign to basically make Saudi look cool and welcome them Where did how many fights are going on in Saudi that UFC's been out there didn't Tyson Fury do his fight out there with?

Nagano, they're still doing fights. They're basically getting a word for it. Sport washing or something. They're sport washing basically. Great point. But they started this live golf thing and we've spent time with majed and also the guy that runs the Saudi wealth fund. His name is Yasser. I just would imagine, but they're basically saying we got to get out there and show the world that we're more than just oil and a Wahhabi Islam. And they've put out there, Oh my goodness.

Uh, so they basically knew we're negotiating with the PJ. They came out there and they said, listen, we're going to try to compute. We'd like to join forces. Hell no. We're not doing this. It's like a new upstart league trying to join forces with the NFL. Now at this point, live golf is basically neck and neck with the PGA and they're splashing money around. They went and they got their CEO, Greg Norman, the shark. They went and got players. You said Phil Mickelson, they got Dustin Johnson, they get Bryson DeChambeau out here in Miami, Brooks Kopka, Patrick Reed, Sergio Garcia, Bubba Watson. They're just splashing money. So you go to a guy, imagine you're this guy ready for a case example. Hey, Hey Phil, what's your total earnings ever from M from playing in the PJ 200 million total over 20 years. Cool. We're

going to pay you 200 million over the next two years. Yeah. What are you going to do? I'm going, guess what? And we see, didn't a Christiano Ronaldo go play for Saudi? Didn't the other players go play with saudi Yeah, they're throwing money around they're buying the marketplace and money talks in bs walks All right, so i'll see what'll take place there by the way, do you know who invested in jared kushner? Two billion dollars from the saudi wealth fund same guys same guys All right, so let's go through i'm gonna do one other story before we wrap up So which story should we go to? Should we go to, should we go PWC, Starbucks? Should we go Georgia?

Should we go, uh, Rogan? Do you want to go to, uh, Georgia high school shooting suspects, mom, defense her son. You want me to go to that one? Yeah,, cuz I mean I didn't even hear mom in message to victims Families, so let me read this to you very interesting very weird what happened tragic obviously, but very weird What happens here so Marcy Gray the mother of the 14 year old shooter Colt Gray apologized to the victims families writing I want to say that I'm so sorry From the bottom of my heart if I could take the place of Mason and Christian, I would without a second do it. And heartbreaks for the two teachers who gave their lives. On the day of the shooting, Marcy had warned the school counselor after receiving a message

from Colt saying, I'm sorry, Mom. While his father received similar texts, I'm sorry, and you're not to blame for this. In her letter, Marcy described Colt as quiet, thoughtful, caring, funny, and extremely intelligent and added, we're all living in a nightmare. My son Colt is not a monster. And with father of suspect charged in Georgia shooting, will more parents be held responsible? This is one of the things we've been talking about a lot. Colin Gray, 54, faces involuntary manslaughter and second degree murder charges after his

son Colt. 14 used a semi-automatic rifle in Georgia school shooting that killed four and injured nine. The father's charges stem from allowing his son access to the weapon. The case follows the landmark Michigan prosecution of James and Jennifer Crumbly, who were sentenced to 10 years. We talked about that story. The Oxford High School in 2021, legal experts suggest more parents could be held accountable for negligible involving firearms as seen in Michigan's new law requiring locked up

guns around minors. Vinny? Well, I mean, obviously tragedy. He was charged with four counts of felony murder. He killed two teachers and two students and he injured life-threatening injuries to nine other people. But you know what bothers me that we hear more than often, Pat, is that the FBI had this dude on their radar.

Okay. And Rob, can you pull up the letter? This is a joint letter from the FBI Atlanta and the Jackson County Sheriff's Office. This kid, they're basically saying like this guy has, he's made threats. He threatened about this stuff. The FBI put him on the 2023 terror threats for plotting to shoot up another school in Jackson, Georgia. He was interviewed by the FBI after they received several anonymous tips about his alleged online threats to commit a school shooting. And then there's a video

of law enforcement, Pat, visiting his home. And I sent it to Rob, Bob, the two minute one. And if you could put on speed one point, whatever they're coming to the house, Tom, and they're like, Hey, listen, you're making these these threats the father before this video actually was like he's like if this is true I can't believe it let me bring him out here and he goes on to say just from his word he goes you're not really gonna shoot up a school or anything right now and he goes no he goes I'm gonna take you for your word for it and that's it well I play this video But seeing that somebody from your old address was there in conditions, that made a threat to shoot up a school.

For real? Yes, sir. But what? Tell me what. You have any kids or anything living here? Yeah, Colt, Greg. Colt? Yeah, Colt.

He's my oldest son. How old is he? He's 13. Do you have weapons in hand? I do. I have weapons. Is that school to him? They are.

I mean, there's nothing loaded, but they are damn good. We actually do a lot of shooting. We do a lot of deer hunting. He shot his first deer this year. I bet it. You know? Nothing loaded, but they are damn good. We actually, we do a lot of shooting. We do a lot of deer hunting. He shot his first deer this year. You know, so, like I'm pretty much in shock, to be honest with you. Well, I'm a little pissed off to be even really honest with you.

I don't know anything about him saying that. I'm gonna be mad as hell if he did. And then all the guns will go away and they won't be accessible. You know, I'm trying to be honest with you. I'm trying to teach them about firearms and safety and how, whatever, where this has come from is no joke. Like it's no joke.

Oh, it wouldn't be here if it was. No, I know, I know. And I'm telling you right now, we talk about it quite a bit. All the school shootings, things that happened. Yeah, scared him. You getting picked on at school, he is. He's getting picked on at school. What's that thing I did do?

Just pull the... Hey, Colt, what's going on, bud? Is that him on the left? Yeah, that's a kid. So your dad, can I explain everything to you? Is that him on the left? Yeah, that's a kid. So did your dad explain anything to you? Both of them are wearing the cross out on their shirt. Did he say something about school shooting?

Maybe they misheard somebody else. They misheard somebody else. He never ever said. I swear. My boss was leaving, I don't know how old this information is. And you want to wait until Monday to follow up. He's basically saying, and you want to wait till Monday to follow up. I'm like, no, I gotta do it now. He's basically saying, like, did you say-

I'm having my job, but I feel pretty bad about that. Take it to work, and I hope you're being honest with me. I'm not saying you're lying, but it's- Seriously. It's not unusual for people to like- This is a year and a half- Yes! That's what you're telling me?

I got no choice but to take it to work. I'm taking your word. Like I was telling you that said, I found out otherwise. It's a real different story. So this is my exactly Pat. So this is a year before the shooting the FBI has him on a list because he's making threats of shooting a school. So they send the sheriff to the house just to say, hey listen,

did you really say that? Are you going to do that? No, and he goes, well, I'm going to take your word for it. Okay. And what people need to understand like the father has these guns. They you going to do that? No. And he goes, well, I'm going to take your word for it. Okay. And what people need to understand is like the father has these guns, they're available to somebody that's threatening. And I'm sorry, you got to take action.

What's that Tom? Read the quote from the grandfather. The grandfather says, which one is it right here? Yeah, highlighted. Uh, Paul Miss believes that Cole was driven by his father to commit the crime stating Cole has to pay for what he did. He was driven. No question in my mind. He describes his grandson as a good kid before being influenced by a

dysfunctional dad who was a screamer and a hollerer. And I mean, it doesn't help that he's getting picked on at school as well. But it's just the last time this, like you said, that happened in Michigan, I'm so happy that they're keeping having the parents accountable for this. And it's like the FBI, how many more times do we have to happy that they're keeping having the parents accountable for this and it's like the FBI How many more times do we have to hear that they have somebody on radar that is threatening to shoot up a school and then nothing happens No, they go on and they do the crime. Okay, and I think the schools Guys, we protect everybody gets protected everywhere you go all the people from Congress. Everybody has an armed guard with them Why is it when it comes to our children in these schools

there's zero protection for these children and I hate when people say that we don't have the money the resources we are giving hundreds of billions of dollars for for countries around the world that I'm sorry to say sometimes there's wars and children children are getting killed why not take that money use our resources hire people to come in these schools, metal detectors, have some people walking around that are armed to prevent it. I think it's a no-brainer, Tom. We can present, we can protect passengers and airplanes, attendees, fans coming to an

NFL game, anybody walking to any stadium, hey, we just had an event and since it was a large event, we had appropriate security at the vault. Very appropriate, regular stuff because of the age in which we live. And what galls me is that, I mean, you could go back and do the autopsy on the relationship with the father and the son there and see what the granddad is saying. And you can see a lot of red lights flashing.

But why don't we make the schools tougher harder targets that's all I want if we do it for football games we do it for baseball games you do it for NBA games you do it for college football games you do it when you get on an airplane you do it if you go to a public event and some churches are doing it now it says why can't we do it for schools? That way, regardless of what's happening at home, regardless of what's happening with the parents,

and we wanna get a hold of that, we are making our targets tougher and safer. And I agree, but the fact that a law enforcement officer just takes his word that he's not gonna go and go through with the freaking massacre, like, what are you talking about? He's saying he wants to shoot up a school, it's over, Pat. And me personally, I would have said to the father, we have to get rid of every single gun in your possession because of your child

making a terrorist threat. I'm sorry. Did the father sound convincing? Not a little bit, but he's holding a beer. So it's hard to take him serious. Was he hiding behind the door? Did he walk out to talk to the officers? No, he walked out to talk to the officer, but the same token. So you're asking the officers to do a little bit of mind reading and then he comes out on the porch, he sits down, he doesn't run from them, he doesn't say you guys have a warrant, what are you guys doing here at my house? He sits down, he said no I take this very serious, this is very serious. We have these conversations and he's very folksy and he's very, he's trying to identify one. Matter of fact we go honey, he had his first year this year.

So in the realm of that, what do the officers have to work with at that moment? I know, I'm saying the child admitting, and the father saying, okay, he was bullied. The father's drinking, I'm just pointing a piece of everything together. The father's drinking a beer. He's bullied in school often.

And now he's making terrorist threats to shoot up the school, Tom. It has nothing to do with the father, meaning I understand he has something to do with it but my thing is you can't have guns at your house now I'm sorry because he's saying yeah he has access to them but there's they're not loaded you could get bullets easy anywhere. Do you know how many parents in the West do you know how many parents in farmland and country land have guns

laying around in the kitchen in the drawer in the above I mean it's literally everywhere yeah not like and they're loaded most of the time of course not like so if somebody comes in they're ready to light it up right so I don't know I don't I don't know if this is like the only father that is doing this in the in the West or in the country but but is the kid getting caught by the FBI for threatening to shoot the schools? What I'm saying is he's giving you the warning sign. I want to shoot up the school.

And then you just go, okay, you're not going to do it, right? And then you just let them go. What should they do? I'm actually curious what you think they should do. I'm sorry, PBD, if you make a terrorist threat like that, even if you're underage. I mean, besides being on high alert, that kid cannot go to that school. You can't go to that school again and I'm talking the father's guns Pat I'm sorry you can't have guns in this house like

something has to be done I don't know what the legality part of it is but I'm actually happy though because now the father the father was arrested Tom for I mean for manslaughter manslaughter charges correct for all four of the people deceased. Failure because what he said that the guns were secured when they came to his house, he's being arrested for failure to control the firearms. Yeah. So, and I get it. And subsequently, because those firearms were used in this horrible, heinous crime, he is subject to the manslaughter charges.

And Pat, you nailed it. I was stationed in Great Falls, Montana. Everywhere, there was guns, everywhere. But when you're a child, and I'm sorry, this is the upbringing, if your child is threatening to shoot up a school and then he goes through with it, it's going to have to fall on you. You gave him access. Oh, it is. That's right. The father's been arrested. I agree with Vinny. There needs to be drastic change here. How old do you have to be to buy a gun, purchase a gun, to purchase it? 18, 21? It depends on the state, but then it's a, it's a 10 day waiting period. So sometimes more, I want to make sure you're not buying it to go kill somebody

right there. No one answers 18. Okay. So no one under 18 should be able to have have a gun and you can shoot a gun, I assume with parental supervision, I would assume that's how that works. Kind of like when you're 15, you're driving a car. No, I think if you're 18 years old, you could buy a gun. You can go under 18. Oh, I have no idea. Okay. Well, I think there needs to be a drastic change because the problem it's just getting worse. Tom, you talk about case studies and following the trends. Rob, if you pull up this thing from WAPO right here, it all started with Columbine. I remember I graduated high school right around then, 1999, and Columbine happened. We're like, what the hell is this?

School shooting, Aurora, everything. But here's the spot map of basically everything that's happened. It's getting more and more and more and more. And 2023, this past year, is the largest part of the graph. So meaning there's only becoming more school shootings than ever. It says here 417 school shootings have been since 1999, which was Columbine where there's two guys and cloaks, black cloaks came in and just shot up the school. 383,000 students have experienced gun violence at school. And look at our, you know, we say, you know, the most

important precious things in our lives are our children. Why aren't we doing anything? You talk about Gen Z, what's going on with them? You know, their anxiety, depression, social media, oh my God, all that. How much did this play into this effect? How much is the fact that you got to go to school to learn? You got your book bags ready to go. And even the fact you're like today might be my last day on earth. While I'm in class, that is the reality of being in school, in public schools. And you saw what JD Vance said the other day. And he's like, I don't know how to tell you this, but I don't feel good saying it. But our schools are soft targets. They are gun free zones are the, or where people. So, you know, if you're following the trends,

are gun free zones are the, or were people. So you know, if you're following the trends, unfortunately I don't see this with any joy in my heart. It is going to happen next week. It's going to happen next month. It's sad to see, but this is the reality of living in America. But listen, let's not do anything different guys. That's what I'm saying. Let's not do anything different. Let's just, if you're saying, let's just have thoughts in prayer. What solutions do you have? I'm not here to do this to offer solutions What I'm saying is I'm an advocate for the the same can't continue if you're a school like number one Start with the schools. Yeah, what what are the schools doing? No metal? There's no metal they came up with ideas that are in my opinion

Zero percent helpful arming the teachers. Now a teacher who's never even shot a gun in their life, who's supposed to be doing science class. All right. Then you see things like this. All right, here's a door. All right, cool. They're developing technology. Let's let the free markets help out our schools because clearly government is doing nothing. Well, who do you think developed this, the government or an entrepreneur? I'm assuming it's an entrepreneur. What needs to be done differently? But Adam, but here's the thing. Nothing is being done. When you say they're just going to give a gun to a science teacher, it's not that they're giving it to

people that are trained, that know how to use it. But here's the thing besides the teachers, why not? We have billions. Adam, how much do we give just to Ukraine in the past four years? $200 billion. Don't tell me we can't hire ex veterans that obviously don't have mental issues or PTSD. Put one, dude, just a deterrent. If you know that there's going to be an armed person in the school, you're going to think twice. If there's a metal detector and you're nailing it, let's do something because just not doing anything isn't helping.

I'm going to almost sound contradictory right now because I'm just trying to find a solution here because you know how they say weapons don't kill people, people kill people. We see the stabbings that are going on in the UK. We see this. They're going to find a way. If you take away the guns, you take away the knives, they're going to take a car and run you over. So the mother says, my son Colt is not a monster. No, he is. He decided to go to school one day, shoot up the school, kill four people, and injure nine people. Yeah, you're a monster. Let me ask you a question. Were you ever bullied in school? Ever? Whatever age? Big time. Yeah, and we all have. Everyone's that way.

I know, but who did you talk to? Who did you talk to? My mom. You did. Who'd you talk to? Who'd you talk to? My dad. Who did you talk to? Who'd you talk to? My dad. Who did you talk to? I would go right up to the bully and start a fight. Literally. I'm like, yeah, let's go bro. Like meaning like if you're going to get bullied. How old were you the first time you were bullied? Eight, ten? Middle school. No, in elementary school nobody was messing with me. But in middle school,

like you get, they, listen, there used to be something called cracker day in Miami and middle school. What's cracker day? Yeah. Well, you know, lucky you ain't a cracker, Pat. Uh, you would go get beat up. Tom was like, Oh, Tom, you wouldn't last a minute. Cracker. Has nothing to do with saltines. Tom, you wouldn't last a minute. Tell them Tom, Adam, what is it? Cracker knockout day Floridians. Have you ever heard of cracker?

You used to get roughed up. You know, Preston, when we went to school, it was crackers. What does it say here? I'm watching comedy central Nigel. You kill me. So I play, I was always like the one white kid on the black basketball team. So I was in the mix here, but you would get in fights, you'd get bullied. But you have to stand up to bullies. You might get your ass whooped, but show up to school the next day. Show up to the court the next day.

These days you, you now can react and you get bullied. You go shoot up to school. What I'm saying is, when you're bullied, who do you talk to? OK, you talk to who? A mom or dad or somebody, right? Sometimes you don't talk to somebody. You're embarrassed if the father, if the mother, whatever. So you don't bring you to anybody. The kids who don't talk to anybody when they're being bullied or in school when someone's being bullied and you don't handle it properly. So how do you create an

environment where that bully can be managed? Because it's the bully that drives somebody to make a decision like this. So one, parents are responsible. Two, kids are responsible. What are you going to do? Bullies are responsible. So are you going to say, let's eliminate all bullies? That's not going to happen. Bullies are not going away. Schools, you need more cameras, accountability, snitching, telling each other, hey, that kid is bullying the other person. So that's the problem right there.

How do you handle bullying? So then the other one is talking to parents, values, principle, protection, love, and then it's the kid. I remember many years ago when I was talking to this guy and I asked him the question about pull the trigger. This guy I interviewed, his job, dude the guy had the weirdest job, his job was, he was a Jim Clemente. Can you pull up Jim Clemente, Rob?

Go type in Jim Clemente. Jim Clemente. Jim Clemente, yeah right pull up Jim Clemente, Rob? Go type in Jim Clemente, Jim Clemente, Jim Clemente. Yeah, right there, what's his job? Zoom in and let's see what his job is. His job was zoom in, FBI, Sub-Saharan American Author, Newspaper, Profiler, podcast co-host or something, no, but he was something else, go Lord.

This guy would interview people right after they killed somebody. Oh man. Oh wow. And you're being accused of the person that you killed. He worked at FBI 22 years, he was an expert on child sexual abuse, victimization, abduction and homicide. He's also an expert in criminal behavior profiling. So you're being accused of killing your wife.

He would sit right next to you, he would interview first. He worked undercover on multi-walls. So I have him on a podcast and I asked him, I said, these serial killers, what gets somebody to be a serial killer? I'll never forget what he said. I wrote it down in my notes so I have it here. He says nature versus nurture, right? He says genetics, genetics loads the gun.

Genetics loads the gun. And genetics is who? Your father, your grandfather, your mother. Genetics loads the gun and genetics is who? Your father, your grandfather, your mother, your nature. Genetics loads the gun. Personality and psychology, that's you, aims the gun. He says your life experiences pulls the trigger. Wow. That's sick. That is so heavy, right? So when he said it, I got the chills, I wrote it down. So again, genetics loads the gun, okay? Personality and psychology aims it, experiences pulls the trigger.

So where is this one here? So the father loads the gun, taught him, okay? Personality and psychology is who? Cult. The kid. So what's the life experience? The bully was the trigger. Yeah. So I mean, I understand you guys are sitting here like, yeah, we should do this and we

should do that and we should do this. If that's the factual state, like if that is really what it is, so everybody living in the country in the South is going to go to jail? You know, there is some of it that's the person, the way they're born. You know, a family can have four kids, five kids, ten kids, three kids, two kids. You see one of them is wired in a little bit like in a different way. So and then you just have to make sure you pour as much love into the family, as much love into it so somebody doesn't get tempted to go there.

Because when you're angry, what does your brain go when you're angry you go places rage Right you come here but man, I mean that experiences you have to find a way to make sure bullying is not Acceptable at all in your school. Anyways, we're at the end of the podcast guys Spectator the oldest British magazine came to interview me Apparently they've been interviewing a bunch of different people asking about me. And this is a hit piece that was done. Oh, really?

And if you read it, I think you should go read it. They actually went and talked to a Trump insider. And I won't even tell you what it is. I want you to read it to see what a Trump insider said. And I think who this Trump insider is. I think you should go read this. It's interesting. It's good, bad, bad ugly all in the article

spectator the oldest British newspaper in the world since 18 British 18 now, what is it 18? People 1828 but that's not a bad picture you man I like that go back to the picture of but look what I like is the is the tie. Yeah Go back to the picture of but what I like is the is the is the tie. Yeah Right there, that's sick. But by the way, he gave me a little bit of a hair on my beard. Yeah, I saw that I don't like that thing. Yeah guys, it's what hair looks good though, Patty

I mean, what's going on first of all when you read it, you see what angle they're taking and the way they're presenting it be careful This guy's coming you have to read it. Well put the this guy's coming. You have to read it. Rob, put the link below in the description for people to read. Anyways, guys, for those of you guys that are following closely with this book, The Academy, this Saturday, Fort Lauderdale, I'm going to have one of our trucks show up with gears. So anybody that shows up that day, we may have a surprise for you guys. I can't wait to see all of you. We're going to make a video. Whoever shows up that day, we may have a surprise for you guys. I can't wait to see all of you. We're going to make a video.

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